You Try Bein' a TV Recapper For A Day: Monday, March 10th, 2025

I sound amazing. Welcome back to...
oh my God, not my hands. They're just hands.
Welcome back to the toast. Happy Monday.
Oh my God. The bitch is back.
Yeah, that's right. School's in session.
Miss Trunchable has returned, everybody. Back to four minute and 30 second ad breaks.
Back to basics, bitch, okay?

It's so true.

Back to the embargo of With Love, Megan.

Back to standard ad reads that are in 15 minutes.

Yeah, sorry about that, guys.

I left school for one day and the substitute teachers took over.

And nice to know what goes on behind the scenes without me. And it's nice to know how integral I am to getting this show up and off the ground.
The kids were wild and out. I was, first of all, editing the episode, so I'm watching you two slander my rules and my good name.
Everybody's like, and then I posted, oh, we need more Ben, we love Ben. I mean, that's just par for the course.
Whenever there's a guest co-host, it's like, he should do it every day. Well, then one of us is out of the job.
What are you saying? Like, that's just impossible. But I'm glad you guys liked the episode.
We had a lot of fun. I hadn't podcasted with one Jalish in a while.
So we had a lot to catch up on. And there were a lot of good topics for us to chat on, especially because food has really been in the news.
And he is kind of the voice you want to hear from when talking about food. I do want to clarify just like one thing my husband said, which, you know, your husband goes on a podcast and talks and you only have one clarification.
I think he did a very good job. I never said he couldn't talk about the frames.
It's not like I was sick Friday morning. I'm like, I need you to fill in for me.
Don't talk about the frames. That's not at all what happened.
When we were building this set,

Ben was obviously like coming with me

and I was showing him pictures of the progress

and he was like,

do you feel like the frames are a little,

and he started to say stuff

and I'm like, shut up.

Shut up.

That's when I told him

he couldn't say anything about the frames.

So it's not that his publicist

told him not to comment on it.

It's that his wife told him to shut up.

Yeah, but not,

like he made it seem like

I told him to shut up

in regards to Friday's episode.

Got it.

No, no.

OK, thank you for working off of old information.

Yeah.

Thank you for that.

No, it was a jolly good time.

I also feel like selfishly he wanted no frames because that way he could use the studio more and it not be so girly like he could use it for good guys.

If there were no frames, we just look like any old podcast studio.

That's the point.

Right.

That's what kind of sets us apart. That's why have our frames in which to frame ourselves and frame the narrative we need to reframe the energy we do so i feel like he was coming from a selfish place and making it more gender neutral i could definitely see that being the reality speaking of selfish he got me sick i wasn't here on friday you guys i'm back i'm so much better own up to that and annoying himself the weenie of the week for doing I saw that was very sweet and let me tell you because like when he went off to work I was so mad like I you know I hate to miss work he did it on purpose to usurp yeah yeah because I first nobody likes being sick but oh my god this is my first time being sick pregnant like I if you would have told me like the biggest physical pain I would have from being like flu like with the with pregnancy would be the pain in my knees like you feel it differently like it was so crazy it was really really bad um so when he went off I was so fucking mad I'm like he didn't take the cough seriously he didn't leave the marital bed and then I'm editing the episode and I'm like oh I wonder who his queenie was because I told him to prepare one and it was like so sweet so it was he phoned it in it was strategic it was strategic so I'm like I am a to prepare one.
And it was like so sweet. So it was, he phoned it in.

It was strategic.

It was strategic.

So I'm like,

I am a warrior.

Yes,

I am.

He was the weenie for getting you sick,

which at least he copped to.

How are you feeling by the way?

So much better.

It's one of those days where,

first of all,

it's 60 degrees outside.

I'm feeling grateful.

The birds are chirping.

To the Lord.

The turdies aren't hurting.

Actually,

my knee still does hurt

from when I collapse in the bathroom

in the bed and bathroom encounter.

But yeah,

I'm going to go the Lord. The turdy's knees aren't hurting.
Actually, my knee still does hurt from when I collapse in the bathroom, in the bed and bathroom encounter. But yeah, I am feeling, I still can't really breathe out of one of my nostrils, but I'm not, I'm choosing not to reflect on that.
I'm feeling so joyful, so positive, so grateful for my health. Focus on the nostril that you can breathe out of, you know? Yeah, yeah.
Oh, and I'm about to say something that everybody's gonna be like,

yeah, Terny, we've been telling you forever,

but you know I come to things late.

And I thought I was past this.

I really thought I was.

Past what? I thought I was past,

like my stubbornness

and like not believing things are good.

Like on Friday night,

Friday day,

I just sort of,

a Thursday,

Friday day,

something arrived from Amazon. Joggers Thursday Friday day I just decided I don't know why I've been so I'll tell you it's kind of like the big spoiler okay I don't know why I've been like so against a traditional pregnancy pillow.
I think I blame Olivia Oshry if I'm

being honest because when I

was at your house I was like

maybe I need a pregnancy pillow. Olivia was like

oh I have one use mine. I'm like oh great.
One of the worst

nights sleep of my life. I don't know where she got this enormous

fucking thing and I was like

pregnancy pillows are a myth and everybody overhypes

it. So then a couple of

weeks ago I was like you know let me try out. I got

like a fancy $60 weighted body pillow and it was fine and then like it got worse and worse and now I don't even sleep with it. So I'm like, you know what? Let me just get some shit from China and like see like what the OG pregnancy pillow is all about.
You know? Like Amazon number one bestseller pregnancy. Amazon number one bestseller like came straight from China, like smelled horrible.
Okay. I threw it in the the wash i am coming off of three of the best night sleeps of my life like pregnancy pillows are amazing i was so wrong i don't know why it took me so long to get one like all the pregnant girls were like just get it like no it doesn't make you any less of a woman to have i know like i don't know do you know you know what it is my own sweeper like OCD got in the way thing to have and I don't want it like in it's ugly in my room when I make my bed my bed doesn't look beautiful anymore this it's green like it's big and green and so I was like you know what I'm not taking on the burden of this pregnancy pillow I'm so dumb I'm always in my own way yeah I feel like that's gonna continue to happen just in general but also like to trend even your attitude towards like stuff for the baby where you're like I don't want over consumption yeah get the things the thing yeah yeah yeah the thing let the pregnancy pillow be a lesson let it be will it be no so that really was helpful in my recovery I was just like sleeping a lot this weekend me in this pillow that I have just come to love to love I watched so much TV so much that we're going to recap I'm all caught up on White Lotus I watched the Love is Blind reunion begrudgingly this morning um so much desperate housewives were consumed like I didn't get out of bed the whole weekend it was amazing oh that's so nice I caught up on like White Lotus we'll recap that I need you to recap Love is Blind for me because I've given up and now i'm done like i'm out of the rat race and yeah i'll hear it from you plus our fifth and final story will lead into the tv recap and i watched a little bit of new kardashians very common yeah you know me i'm a creature of habit like i'm some i don't go with the trends like just because we all stopped watching like not me I'm still here there was so much Kylie it was fantastic Kylie Timothy best part of the episode I just want to say was Chloe and Scott interviewing a new assistant for Scott I was laughing so hard I could have a whole reality they should do a show like The Apprentice where they try and find the next assistant did you Did you ever watch HBO Max's original show, The Big Shot with Bethany? Of course I did.
Was that a rhetorical question? Like we recapped it ad nauseum. You did? Yeah.
We talked about it all the time. Well, I watched it with Brian.
I think we watched like the first episode and we talked about that. Okay.
I watched it with Brian. We were obsessed with it.
It was the dumbest show. Like Bethany Frankel was hiring not an assistant but like something like that and it was they made it like an apprentice like they had all these challenges and it was so stupid and it was the best show I've ever seen in my life we need more shows like that like casting for like dumb ass jobs like that would be a great show actually Courtney I mean Chloe and Scott yeah trying to find his next great assistant it was really really funny so um that's what I did and then also shout out to the mamas because daylight savings threw us through a loop did it not it threw me through a loop too is just like a person who lost an hour of their weekend like this weekend we had less weekend than every other weekend do you know that I do know that and shoutas.
Like I know with the kids' sleep schedule, like it's horrible. But shout out to the girls who were recovering from the flu and got a new pregnancy pillow and thought that the pregnancy pillow was like so magical because I woke up at 830 and I was like, Ben, it's the pillow.
We couldn't get over it. I've been waking up at 6 a.m.
I'm like, we slept till 830. You would have thought I slept till noon the way I was acting.
It wasn't until a full 24 hours later that I was like, wait, did I sleep till 8.30? I had no idea it was daylight savings. Well, at least you slept till 7.30 if you usually wake up at 6.
It's something. Yes, I guess.
Charlie slept till 8.30 this morning, which is technically 7.30. But then last night, I put them down at the new bedtime.
So he actually did get an extra hour of sleep. But it's all hard confusing um but last night was the first night like i didn't have to close my blinds at 4 p.m yeah we got to play outside after dinner and i'm hopeful that this year will be the year where we don't change the clocks again like this is how it should be all the time you know every year there's bipartisan effort to stop there's lots of talk this could be the year attorney last time.
And I'm so utterly confused. Except, of course, they're going to take away the one where we get more sleep.
I just want to say, I saw a clip of someone asking the president about it. And he didn't seem convinced that it was the right move.
He said, I'm still thinking about it. Like, for real.
Okay, sometimes you have to think about stuff. He said, I've been hearing, like, conflicting.
Let's see how he felt after last night. Right.
Maybe if he wakes up with like a little bed head. Wake up and be like, enough.
If he feels refreshed or if he feels like. This isn't the one where you wake up feeling refreshed.
It's great for your life and your quality of life and seasonal depression. Like it's good for all of that.
But day of is a hard day. The other one is a nice day, but you're in for months of sadness.
Yeah. I can't believe the months of sadness are over like that was really just just a crazy time we made it like it's so it's also it's important to acknowledge the space i had i really had adjusted to like the dark sadness we were in a good schedule a good routine like you let it wash over yeah it was just like dinner bath bed because there's no more sunshine and like right it.
It was fine, you know? And so like they just give it to us to take it away again. Yeah, I don't really plan on changing much about my life.
I remarked at five o'clock that the windows like were still bright and then I put the blinds down. Same, you know, new time, same me.
But don't you like to watch the sunset or watch the sky slowly wind i do actually but um we were watching desperate housewives and the glare was starting to bother me so desperate housewives greater than god's gift i'm at the final season of desperate housewives and it's really bad like there is actually and you're going to remember this so you know at the end of season seven all the women bury a body together yeah and eight is like the fallout of that. They all have so much guilt.
The police are like chasing them. They're trying to like maneuver.
And Susan is obviously the one who can handle it the least. And she's like crippling and she's taking an art class to get through it.
And the artist teacher is like, paint your deepest dark. And she literally paints the four women in the forest burying a body.

Like it's an actual admission of guilt.

And then they like show it at an art show and the women are like,

are you dumb?

Like seriously, are you fucking dumb?

The police are literally telling us you,

it's like a series of paintings where it's like,

what, we killed him with a candlestick.

Like she tells,

and then they all start fighting and they're not even fighting about Susan

being so stupid.

Yeah.

This is where the show officially lost me.

Understood.

Well, that's good because you won't be sad when it's over.

Yeah.

And I do with it.

We have big plans to watch Friday Night Lights.

Although Ben wants to start Desperate Housewives over again.

You think I like Desperate Housewives?

Well, no.

He was talking about it when he was here.

He'll come home from work.

He'll be like DH.

That's what he calls it. And I'm like.
He's like, DH. I'm like, no.
Like, he is obsessed. He kind of makes me hate it.
Do you know what I mean? It's like Ben's show. You're watching for him now.
A thousand percent. Well, maybe when you guys split up into different rooms, which you must do after everything that's happened this week.
Any day now, yeah.

Like, I'm sorry, we all have to separate the two of you.

Then in his room, he can watch DH and like you can watch FNL.

Yeah, yeah.

But we did eventually have to turn it off to watch White Lotus

and Love is Blind, so it was fine.

White Lotus, yes.

My Sunday evening, I'll never get back.

Here's the thing.

And I already had one less hour. We'll do an official TV recap.
Did I have one more hour? We're going to do an official TV recap, but as it pertains to White Lotus, I'm just going to say the thing that you're not supposed to say, right? The show is bad and I am bored. And then people are like, well, you just don't get it.
It's character to, shut the fuck up.

I'm turning on my TV to be entertained.

Like, right, if it has such like subtext plot,

shut up, it's bad and I'm bored.

If I didn't get something, I would say I'm confused, right?

There's nothing not to get there speaking.

I'm following.

There's not that much dialogue.

It's very slow moving.

Like, it's not missing me.

There's not that much to get. I feel the same way that I felt when i watched season one which is why i didn't watch season two where it's like i'm happy for this show people really like it they have a nice concept the hotels the funny characters but everyone makes more of this show than it is it's not much more than what you say they act like it's genius mike lotus whatever his name is mike is, Mike.
Right. Oh, what a genius.
It's not genius at all. It's just like people on vacation and everyone just makes such a big deal of it.
And that also makes it worse because it doesn't live up to that expectation. That's a very good point.
It's just a show. And it's not it's good compared to the fact that there aren't a lot of good shows and it's a good premise and it's regenerative and but when you're and when you look back on it like when I think of season one I'm like oh that was like so funny they're in Hawaii and the pineapple guy and Cindy Sweeney and someone dies in the duty haha but now I remember what it's like to actually watch it and those are participate those are like really the only things that happened because not a lot happens because they're just like making a meal of this because they're taking themselves so seriously.
Like every actor who's like, I got white lotus. Like it's it's it's a cool job because we've made it that way.
But like it's not Game of Thrones. OK, no.
And we need to like just start treating it like for what it is, which is a TV show. OK, yeah.
And I really can't with people psychoanalyzing. My least favorite thing in

today's day and age is like when you don't like something people

say you just didn't get it. And it's like no

no I can get it and still dislike it. Like that's how

I felt about the bear. Well you obviously

didn't get it. You don't work in food service.

And it's like well if a show requires

me to have a certain job then the show isn't good

first of all. Second of all like I got it.
I didn't like the show

it gave me anxiety. Yeah.
No that's

like not a legitimate. I just hate when people say that.
Yeah except if you don't like this show it's because you don't get it yeah and you're dumb and ugly money you'll go back like and like shave your back okay you can go shave your back now okay but I do think there are things like that I could watch that I could be like I don't get it you know yes and I think if I watch Shogun I'm not too big to say that i think when i start when i thought about watching shogun it was giving the vibe that i wouldn't get it it just and that's okay over your head i can't get everything but i'm just saying i also sometimes don't like things that i do get yeah two things can be true letter de lune i love and hate you that's me so we have a lot to do today because it's a Monday

just like general catchings ups. Love is blind.
And yeah, I don't want to spoil my thoughts. Okay, let's save them without further ado-da-da-da-doo.
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I think we should add a little shimmy when you do the, do it again. The Fast Five Stories.
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Our first story.

Another Simple Favor.

So Simple Favor sequel premiered at South by Southwest this weekend.

And honestly, I don't know what it was like on the ground, but it looks like a disaster to me.

I completely agree.

I think it was really like it was disgusting. I think Blake Lively is a dirty whore.
I can't believe she put on a dress and went to work. I think she's a disgrace to women and to humanity.
And I think she should die. Well, I was more so talking about the feud rumors between Blake and Anna Kendrick.
And I'm talking about the response to Blake Lively leaving her house. Like I know that this is a a complex situation everybody has their takes the the lawsuit but like seriously the woman didn't do anything she went to work yeah that's ridiculous that's like like she took her jacket off and they're like this costume change is so egregious when there are women fighting for their life yeah no she took her jacket off but Anna Kendrick and Blake Lively the two stars of a symbol favor there have been like rumors about them forever uh and then the premiere didn't do anything to dispel those rumors Anna Kendrick has such like a quirky sense of humor but it's hard to know when she's like being funny or sarcastic and so she's asked about the Blake stuff and she kind of is keeping moms the word because what else can she do it's all very complicated and I'm sure she wants nothing to do with it but it also sort of looks like she hates Blake um Paul Feig weighed in and said that that's also like I feel like a complication in the whole thing is that one of the very few like public allies of Blake Lively is this director Paul Feig so he's at the event too he's speaking on behalf and so if anna and blake like really hate each other there's definitely an imbalance in the workplace because paul and blake are thick as thieves yeah and he like people were you know chiming in saying anna hates blake anna's scared of blake and he responded to someone saying um you are wrong so he's maintaining that this is like they're good i don't think they're that good i know before blake was like a you know america's most wanted there have been like theories that this was like the most toxic set ever these two would not even look at each other refuse to do press together and this was way before anybody had anything bad ever to say about blake lively it's like if you've been paying attention there's definitely weirdness in and the fact that they decided to make a sequel when there was clearly such bad vibes and the movie like wasn't even successful I I don't understand no and if Blake and Paul are so close and they wanted to make a sequel and the two leads like don't get along they could have done it without her I don't know if it's based on a book that needs both of them if the book also has a sequel and you know not to like kick get make anna kendrick like out of a job but i know i could also have seen that happening so the fact that she everyone signed back up says like yeah and it's not like it was like a huge blockbuster it's like how could it sound like twilight like oh you could pass on it easily rob will work together even though i don't know if anna kendrick is like getting offered so many roles these days you know yeah i don't know i feel like people really love her like no i think it's the opposite i think people really don't like her i think she's someone who like people have made it their personality to dislike but like when she's in like everything she's in is really successful yeah i mean pitch perfect is one of the best movies of our time twilight oh my god even though she's like such an irrelevant ugly in tw.
No, I know, but she's actually, everything that she's in is very successful. I feel like she's a safe cast.
I think you make a good point that like nobody would have agreed to do this movie if it was as toxic as like the rumors have made it up to be because it wasn't this movie that demanded a sequel. Like there was a small following of the niche cult following, but beyond that, it wasn't a movie that really required a second film.
So like maybe these three loved working together. That's what it sounds like.
Yeah, they wanted more. Right.
And so I think a lot of people are taking clips from this weekend and really making more of it than it is. Like there's definitely something there.
But I don't think anything is an admission. Like Anna Kendrick is weird.
So when her weird responses to also, I'm sure they've been briefed, like not to speak on Blake Lively. It's like an ongoing legal matter.
They have to be briefed. Nobody wants to step into this mess.
Correct. So I don't think that these videos and these responses of Anna are like that telling.
Yeah, but I just feel like if Anna had her back and Anna loved her and Anna believed Blake, like they would be in arm yeah yeah yeah Cynthia and Ariana nothing also between us if these two hated each other as much as we've been led to believe that they did and now Blake Lively is the most hated woman in America and they're doing a press tour together you just know Anna Kendrick if that was the truth would be like living for it and like leaning in and giving the people so she didn't do that either your enemy when they're making a mistake there's what does she need to do more than what's already happening yeah I don't think that this is like the most amazing copacetic working relationship of all time I do think maybe some of the rumors have been blown out of proportion a little bit but there's definitely something there there's definitely something there I hope they keep the premieres to a minimum because this is uncomfortable yeah it was like and i actually felt genuine pain for blake like she's trying so hard to combat like the mean girl that's like a that's what i i think one of the biggest most valid criticisms about her from all this is like seeing the way over the years she's like interacted with fans and people it's just like rude and bitchy so to see her like go out into the throngs of fans being like God, hi! Like pretending she knows who you are. I just know that was really hard for her because it goes against her natural instinct to be like a big bitch.
And I felt bad for her because it was like truly eating humble pie. It's like when Regine George put the back brace on, you know? Yeah.
Yeah, I feel like she doesn't need to do all that. Just be a bitch.
No, and like the fact that she's being so nice and she's never been this nice, she's kind of validating the rumors. Yeah, exactly.
She's like, let me take a selfie. You don't want to take a selfie.
No, and there was this male fan who's clearly a big Blake fan. I think Blake was, you know, the Kardashians, people know their biggest, biggest fans, people who run blogs about them.
So she was trying to have a moment with this guy. I'm like, you don't know him.
You don't know him. You don't know this man.
Stop. Yeah, the, you know, royal walkabout was unnecessary.
Yeah, the royal, exactly. Like when the royals like walk through and like shake hands and kiss babies.
In the villages, yeah. But like they're the, like you could just go from the car to the carpet to the movie.
It's fine. Yeah, it's enough.
We don't need this from you. It's unnatural.
I am also like, anyone else getting annoyed with Brendan Sklenar? No, I'm personally not getting annoyed with Brendan Sklenar. Okay, I am because like at first he was like a Blake ally and then he was a Blake hater.
And then over the weekend he wore this like pin on the red carpet, which was the same flower pin that Justin Baldoni had previously worn. And like he like he's kind of playing into, but he's also like, I don't want to be asked about this.
And he's actually been a really big part of the story. Like one of the big interviews that went viral with Blake being like a nasty bitch was when she was sitting with Brendan Sklennar and he like rolls his eyes.
So like, oh, he hates her. But then he was him and Paul Feig were like people to start sticking up for her.
And now I feel like he's playing both sides. And I really want to know what he thinks.
He's just like, I think, living for the attention. I think that Brandon Sklennar would be a classic case of a Hollywood person who literally doesn't give a fuck what the truth is or who's right, but is going to just try and be on the good side.
Do what's best for his career. Oh, we're with Blake now? I'm with Blake.
Oh, things are trending toward Justin. Subliminal message.
I would be really upset if I found out my boyfriend was like that. Like, I love him, but he's starting to piss me off.
Like, who's side are you on?'s that are you on but also he's gonna be in housemaid right yes that's why you've been doing a lot of press right oh you're right yes that's how it's all connected it helps to be up blake's butt a little bit maybe he posted that's paul fike such like a mover and a shaker I've never even heard of him maybe he posted that thing about blake when he was like down to the last two in casting for housemate just so paul feig smiled upon him did you see the video of sydney sweeney and brendan slennar like on set of the housemate like being cute and now everybody's doing what they did with her and glenn powell no i didn't see that well i need sydney sweeney to stop pretending like she's gonna marry that guy like we know you're not pretending like she's not engaged no no but the thing is that's what i'm saying she's not like you're not marrying that guy you know oh you're not like stop i feel like she's very much marrying that guy no she would have done it already like she's not and i and that guy i get it like she's in this situation she's in this situation that like i get it you you can't marry like what are you doing what are you doing? No, whoever he is in this world, like he's holding her back from, obviously. You know who he reminds me of? And this is going to be like, actually, no, I'm not even going to say it.
Never mind. So she must love him so much.
She can't break up with him. She has to marry him because she loves him so much.
No, they obviously buried, they buried a body in the woods together. Like Susan Meyer.
He's Susan Meyer. Yes.
And instead of painting it, she's just doing all these bad movies. No, it could be like Margot Robbie, who is literally the same.
And she's married to a normal industry guy who we don't know. And they're having a baby.
And she loves him so much. Yes, she could have been with Leo.
OK, can I say something a little out of turn? I'm going to say the thing you're not supposed to say. That she's old? No.
What? I don't even think that. Margot Robbie, yes, she like married a total nobody.
She married a total nobody who's actually extremely good looking. Okay, I don't even know who Sydney Sweeney's man is.
So let's go. Let's do it.
Let's dig in. I would say like, yes, Margot Robbie's the most beautiful woman in the world, but her man isn't that much uglier than her you know jonathan devino does that sound right yeah it does okay and i just feel like him and sydney sweeney are on different like levels physically i don't know if that's like so mean to say he's not bad looking he's not bad looking claudia he nice, dressed up.
I think he's got something. I think he's got swagger.
He's 41. Yes, he's much older.
And he's 5'9". I know too much about him now.
I need her to quit the act. Like, stop.
He's a businessman. What if he's really wealthy? So is she.

I need her to date Brendan Sklenar.

Really?

And maybe, I just don't know,

maybe this guy, Jonathan DeVino,

is somebody she could end up with,

like, after an illustrious career, or like...

Why does she have to, like, suffer in order to get...

Like, this would be the end...

Oh, you're suffering?

Dating Brendan Sklenar is suffering?

Dating willy-nilly over there?

Is suffraging? Yeah, no scruples. She's a suffragette team Blake team Justin willy nilly Brendan no it's like a fun thing and like remember when everybody for five minutes was like is she dating Glenn Powell like that was fun yeah I agree but how many times are you gonna do that before you look stupid a couple of times and then you settle down with a Jonathan DeVino you don't show up to the party with a Jonathan DeVino I just feel like so maybe she's mature like why do you look stupid? A couple of times and then you settle down with a Jonathan DeVino.
You don't show up to the party

with a Jonathan DeVino.

I just feel like,

so maybe she's mature.

Like,

why do you,

how long does she have to do

that stupid thing

before she recognizes real?

For me,

this is where gender roles

are like extremely important.

Like if a guy gets really famous

in Hollywood

and stays with like

his little girlfriend,

like obsessed,

you are salt of the earth,

love you, love you.

When a woman does it,

it's like,

ew.

I don't know.

Like you don't have a man

with a job?

I don't know like you don't have a man

with a job

I don't know

not for someone

in the industry

I just can't tell you

like how

that so

doesn't do it for me

I'm ready for this

like a lion actor

it's run it's course

okay

well I

I support Sydney

being scrupled

and I support

Thank you. It's run its course.
Okay. Well, I support Sydney being scrupled.
And I support myself. Okay.
I also want to look up Margot Robbie's husband just to. He's cute.
His name is like Sam or something. Tom Ackerley is his name.
Oh, he is cute. Yeah.
You know what I mean? Yeah. He's got like a super cute face.
And they both have like that Australianian like connection yeah she's australian yeah no like that look that like surfer beachy really cute look yeah and then also he's a producer i think she like made him yeah like i tanya barbie

barbie i'm cracking up that's hilarious okay well let me know if anyone sees another simple favor our next story speaking of two people who are so perfectly matched at a jackson clare match oh my god and tits out for the boys kylie and timothy can't keep their hands off each other at the indian wells tournament kylie Timothy stepped out at the BNP Paribas Indian Wells Open in Indian Wells, California on Sunday throughout the match. They were packing on the PDA.
Her friends were there. It was just like a fun outing.
I think I saw Kendall, right? I saw Kendall, but I also saw Victoria. And then I saw what looked like Victoria looking like Kendall.
So I wasn't sure. Look look I thought Kendall had like a really short bob I feel like oh there's Kendall you're right you're right both of them yeah Victoria and Kendall fab outing just like a bunch of friends drinking watching tennis like taking pictures Kylie looks so unbelievably gorgeous like I can't believe that these two are together like and you know she's definitely making me look at him like a little bit more favorably.
I've never thought he was like cute or my type. And, you know, when she shows up on a red carpet and she's like looking va-va-voom and she's with him, it's like, oh, maybe he's not so bad.
You know, she brings up the group average. And her just sitting there like with her bombshell blowout, her cleavage, which was just like so insane.
I couldn't help but wonder, like, seriously, what does she see in him? Like, I'm sorry. She is making me reevaluate him.
And I like what I see. I like what he brings out in her, like this confidence.
Fun. And she should be the most confident person in the world because, like, she's so gorgeous and hysterical and perfect in every way.
And you can really see that she feels that way uh so I love that for her from him but now like now when he does stuff I'm like okay Timothy Kylie's boyfriend let me listen to you like he gave that speech when he won the SAGA award you're thinking more about him in a substantial way yeah like I'm not just like oh this actor who I have nothing to do with but like the SAGA award speech that he gave like that he's like a very serious person and he's wants greatness and like he will and like he's just very high achieving and and I think that's an attractive quality I think he's like a serious person I think he's a smart person the fact that they've been together almost two years and like they're still this into each other and like touchy-feely and happy like I wish them a lifetime of happiness it's true it has like been a long time and they're still very like honeymoon phase. I like that he's very family oriented.
He brings his whole family everywhere. And you know, I love me some Pauline Chalamet.
And she's very family oriented. Of course.
So they probably have that in common. Also, I meant to tell you, speaking of Pauline Chalamet on a Mindy Kaling show, I watched Running Point this weekend.
You will love it. It is so funny.
First of all, not nobody telling me the star of the show is chet hanks okay tom hanks's turnt troubled youth young son he is amazing he is so funny and that's why like only mindy kalin could see that in him you know like i think people don't take him seriously he plays this like you know uh star basketball player but who has like a bad image and he's always like saying the wrong thing and doing the wrong thing he is so funny that Jackie the show is so good like it's really I was on Netflix watching like something mandatory and I was like damn I want to be watching that yeah it was so funny and there's like a whole part where one of the siblings like refuses to call Twitter anything but X and everybody's like stop and he's like I re-Xed something it's like you retweeted and it's literally you even though it is called X like we do still say retweeted of course and it's so funny they're trying to get ahead of a scandal so one of them like has a finsta and he's like no a lot of times I can debunk stuff with my finsta so he like writes a finsta tweet that's like no I was at this restaurant it's not true that didn't happen and he accidentally sends it from his real Twitter and then deletes it and then puts it on the Finston. Like he's exposed.
It's like Normani. What is happening? Oh my God.
It's so funny. It's such a good show.
Like I haven't even finished it. I think I'm like four episodes in, but I'm like really enjoying myself.
That's so funny. I will watch it.
I just added it to the content plate. And what's funny is the last three things on the content plate are all Mindy Kaling, Sex Lives, Mind and running point mindy kaling supremacy it's fabulous and the soundtrack is really good too can't wait like truly can't wait to watch that back to kylie and timothy yeah like lots of love seriously get married and have babies like i'm sick of Yeah, I think that's kind of the plan.
Yeah.

But I'm ready.

You just had a baby.

You know, when your siblings start having babies,

it makes you think, like.

Yeah, but Kylie's already a mama,

so it's just about, like, what works for her.

Yeah, no, and I think Kylie's, like, down.

She's, like, once you have kids,

like, you're not afraid of it anymore.

It's not, like, such a big deal.

Yeah.

Timothy, this is, like, his first four-way,

so he might need to be, like, persuaded a little bit. He might, like, want an Oscar first, you know?

I could see that.

But he can't really achieve the emotional depth of Oscar- winning performances until he experiences fatherhood. I totally agree.
Yeah. But I could also so see him being like, I can't have a child until I've had an Oscar.
And then also if that ever does happen, him realizing like what a stupid thing that is to say. And if he does need that to happen, he needs to take on better roles than that piece of shit Bob Dylan movie.
Sorry, I hated that movie. Like no one was sadder when he lost the Oscar than Kylie.
Yeah, she's like, oh, ovaries, we'll try again next year. I don't think they'll get married, though, because they each have too much money.
Going on, yeah. But that's fine.
That's fine. Did you see the video of when it was time for Timothy's award at the Oscars?

People were filming like him from the stands.

And Kylie had actually switched seats with his mother who was sitting behind them and let the mom and Timothy sit in the front row together.

And she sat behind him.

And then when he lost, she like hugged him from behind and gave him a kiss.

And I thought that was really we're always talking about, you know, the order of importance, fiance, girlfriend, mother.

And she gave Timothy's mom.

And that's just her playing the long game because, you know, now the mom definitely really likes her. Yeah.
No, she's such a queen. Yeah.
So nobody had more fun than them this weekend. It's true.
Are you ready for our next story? Yeah. Some sad news about one of our faves.
Luke Combs is detailing his debilitating battle with a rare, particularly wicked health condition wait what yeah i just saw this this morning luke combs appeared on 60 minutes australia and detailed his battle with a rare form of ocd in a recent interview he shared that he has struggled with purely obsessional obsessive compulsive disorder also known as pure o since the age of 12 but recently experienced his his worst flare up in years. So he described it.
He said it's thoughts essentially that you don't want to have and then they cause you stress and then you're stressed out and then the stress causes you to have more of the thoughts and then you don't understand why you're having them and you're trying to get rid of them, but trying to get rid of them makes you have more of them. He explained the tedious and debilitating condition.
He said he feels now lucky to be an expert in PRO since he has dealt with it for two decades

and he knows how to get out of it now.

But he said when it hits man, it can be all consuming.

He said that he had a really bad flare up.

He said that a really bad flare up

can last 45 seconds of every minute for weeks.

He also shared that sometimes the intrusive thoughts

are also violent.

The way to get out of it is like,

it doesn't matter what the thoughts even are.

Giving any credence to what the thoughts are is like irrelevant and only fuels you having more of them. Here's the thing.
Luke Holmes doesn't share much. You know, he doesn't do press.
He's not a big talker. So when he does, you best listen because you're going to learn something.
And this interview is no different. We don't report on like, you know, Luke Holmes' random interviews ever because he doesn't like sit down and talk for the sake of talking like a lot of people do in his business so i love these little windows into lukey and once again setting the bar breaking glass ceilings like do you know any male country music stars talking about their mental health because i don't no i'm just going to show you really never know what someone's going through and like i wouldn't thought that luke might be dealing with something was like a mental health sufferer.
Yeah. And in such a serious way, more than the average.
Correct. That's my king right there.
Yeah. Thanks for sharing, Lukey.
And feel better. And congrats.
I think he's on a big Australian something, right? Oh. It's always a big Australian something.
I feel like 60 Minutes Australia is like low-key always making news.

Do you feel that?

Yeah, they do a good job.

They do.

It's a trusted source.

Is there a particular 60 Minutes segment

that you find yourself referencing all the time?

Do you know what I mean?

I've seen one and I'm always talking about it.

I'll just let you answer this question for yourself.

It was TikTok in China, you know?

Yeah. About how the kids in China are only getting 20 minutes a day and they're doing math equations on TikTok.
Yeah. And they're using it as a weapon of mass destruction.
Like, I've tried to tell you this so many times, but it's not until 60 Minutes really laid it out nicely. Yeah.
Okay. Does that change things? No, I saw it a couple years ago.
I'm just like always bringing it up and it's like, I sound smart because I'm like, oh, you know, I saw the segment on 60 Minutes. And people don't know it's like the only segment I've seen on 60 Minutes.
But it's important that when you've seen a segment on 60 Minutes, you let everyone know. Right.
Same thing when you've read like one article, you always share that article. Yeah.
I like the 60 Minutes. Oh, yeah.
I like that too. We need something like that.
That's really like the sound department slayed. Yeah, we do need something like that.
They ate with that. We do, Jackie.
We do. It's summer, summer, summer, summer.
Or it's like summer. Toast.
That's kind of cool. I don't like that one.
It doesn't slap the way the 60 Minutes one does. No, but maybe we'll have something one day.
Never stop reaching for your dreams. Never stop reaching for your auditory dreams.
Correct. And expanding your auditory profile now that we have the bug.
I would never even dream of expanding the auditory file. I do wish that we had had like little bites in between like ad breaks and stuff.
Like when other podcasts have, we really, like it makes no sense because we do it live. But when other podcasts have it like, oh, this is fancy.
I don't know. When other podcasts have like so many like sounds and productions, I'm like, oh, this is not real.
Yeah. You're just trying to like take up time because you can barely hit 45 minutes and so you need a minute.
Yeah. And at least with the toast, like, yeah, you hear sirens in the background.
Jackie's kids crying. I'm blowing my nose.
Like, we're losing Wi-Fi every 15 minutes. Like, you can never say we're not real.
No, I do feel like other shows enjoy the fact that maybe all of their auditory experiences total take up like three minutes. Yeah, no, it definitely cuts down the word count.
Yeah. No, it cuts up.
You know what I mean. Yeah.
Beefs up. Correct.
It's giving adjective. You know when you would like throw in a bunch of adjectives, like you'd be like, it's extremely dangerous, but also concerning.
Maybe it is dangerous, but concerning. I know it was for me.
I understand. It's giving adjective.
Yeah. Yeah, adjective.
Like superfluous adjectives. Understood.
Are you ready for our next question? She was greedy. And what's like a synonym for greedy? I think I meant to say it's giving synonym, not it's giving adjective.
I think like unnecessary descriptors. Yeah, no, no.
Yeah, no, it's like, it was extremely unnecessary and superfluous. And? No, like those are my two sentences.
Two, three. Can we end this conversation? Like, I'm not.
You keep having additional thoughts. I keep saying.
I keep saying I am ready, kids. Yeah, no, like just, just move on.
If you got what I was saying like you got it if you didn't the thing is I did if you didn't I understand that as well I did I get it I did understand are you ready for our next story yes okay a little divorce news shockingly Emily Osmond is getting divorced five months after getting married. So Emily Osmond is splitting from her husband, Jack Farina.
And while many would expect them to still be in their honeymoon phase, looks like she decided five months was more than enough. The actress filed for divorce on Friday from Farina, better known as a stage name Jack Anthony, citing irreconcilable differences.
They got married in October, so it's been five months. The list date of separation is December 2024, less than two months after the marriage.
Okay, so I feel like, not to make everything about Young Sheldon, you know Emily Osmond had like a small role on Young Sheldon. Yeah, George is lady.
And as the seasons progressed, she became more and more important. And then when they created a spinoff, it was George and Mandy.
She's Mandy. So I feel like when you get to be the star of a CBS sitcom, like that's money.
That's like Kili Cuoco money. That is money that nobody in Hollywood makes.
And I think she saw the writing on the wall and her filing for separation like before George and Mandy came out, I think was one of the wisest things she could have done. She's definitely making so much money.
And she's had a career that like has kind of been like up and down where I don't think she's made a lot of money, you know, at once. And this is like the type of project that, you know, an actress only dreams of.
Okay. Well, first, it's worth noting that they have a prenup.
So and with no children, they'll just like walk away from this. No, but a prenup.
But by the way, even with a prenup, money she made during the marriage is still community community property so that's george and mandy no a prenup would make money made during the marriage like separate because what you came in with is separate i mean prenup is just like prenups are different for like so who knows what right they had but say the finances are taken care of and also like like you said she's been sort of like here and there all through her career she found this man who's like been with her through it all why would she leave him as soon as she hits it big I feel like unless they were having issues and like she like

you said saw the writing on the wall and like wanted to leave him before the big check came

because she knew they would split up anyway but I don't think that's the only reason and I mean

to separate two months after you get married when she's she's our age how would you feel like she's

and they don't have kids together they don't have kids together and they were separate two months after you get married when she's she's our age, how would you feel like she's and they don't have kids together? They don't have kids together and they were married two months. I feel like she found something out about him or he found out something about her.
Yeah, maybe. It's kind of giving love is blind, you know, it's it's kind of crazy.
I feel like Emily Osmond is like a very like good head, like not like just like a Hollywood girl who gets like married and divorced in two months. Agreed.
So I feel like something must have happened and hopefully nothing too terrible.

She has a very, I think, normal life given her job.

I don't think she's like, you know, can't go to the grocery store.

No, and like given that she's been in the industry for so long, she just seems very normal in a good way.

Yeah, I agree.

This is really crazy.

I feel like we're seeing a lot of young couples in Hollywood getting divorced recently.

Who else?

I'm sorry. this is really crazy.
I feel like we're seeing a lot of young couples in Hollywood getting divorced recently.

Who else?

I don't know.

I just feel like this isn't the first one.

I didn't realize

you were going to follow up

with the question.

I just felt like

when you say that

you have someone

at least one in mind.

Yes.

You know,

actually I was thinking

of Halle Bailey.

Like she was with her man. They had a baby and And then, like, a month later, broke up.
Divorce? I don't know if they were married legally, but they were like a family. Yeah.
MGK and Megan Fox. I was just reminded of them.
She's pregnant. Yeah.
And they're broken up. That's, like, a different thing.
And also, they're together a a million years and now they're pregnant and not together. And it also reminds me of, I'll always think of Michael Kopech and Vanessa Morgan.
It all comes back to Michael Kopech. Right? Because that's a classic case of what? And fun fact, I'm just coming off of like an eight episode stint of Desperate Housewives featuring Brian Austin Green.
Featuring Michael Kopech. Yes.
And Michael Kopech, of course. And Paula Patton.
He's in. He works.
You're going to see him around in your shows. Yeah.
Yeah. It was just kind of crazy.
I feel like Desperate Housewives is its own universe. Yeah.
And when Vanessa Williams comes in as like she's already a famous person and she's like one of the Housewives of the last three seasons. It's such a delight to see like a famous famous person but then every now and then with like a random role like paula patten plays this like turned girlfriend who shows up rhinos and green it's like what are you doing here yeah but also it could have just been like a random actor and then since then they become super no but at the time paula patten was famous and so was brian yeah yeah yeah are you ready for our fifth and final story that will lead into our tv recap if it's our fifth and final story that will lead into the TV recap that's brought to you by Primal Kitchen oh it is I love Primal Kitchen we were just eating their ketchup last night because it's sweetened with honey well let's talk about real food for a minute shall we are you open yeah sure we all know that we should be eating more real whole foods but really who has the time especially when it comes to like your condiments.
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A little breaking news before we get into our fifth and final story that will lead into our tv recap which is that olivia colpo has announced that she's pregnant with the pargiest photos you've ever seen oh i don't want to say it you know what like welcome to the club like that she's in your gang now i don't want to say it i i was just bragging last week about my timing, you know, my timing, my timing. And look, another Pardee, Pardee Licious.
I had a feeling like she might be. I don't know why.
I feel like she got married somewhat recently. She's oddly very traditional.
Weren't we just talking about how annoying that is? Yes, we were talking about it offline. Like when somebody tells you that they're pregnant, you're like, I knew it.
Oh, I had a feeling. I'm not saying it to her.
I'm saying it to you. It's different.
Oh, is it? Okay, cool. And I just felt like she would have a baby shortly after getting married.
That was like the vibe that I got, you know, God willing, that was an option for her. Because they are like very, you know, religious and somewhat traditional.
Her wedding dress, you know, remember? I actually was thinking about her wedding dress scandal the other day. Like how stupid that was.
People jealous and ugly it's been almost a year since she got married so like now you have like hindsight when you like and you can like really see when you look back it wasn't trendy it like it's aging flawlessly in my opinion yeah um i love this i'm so happy for her i like her so much uh love this so happy for her when i watched the culpos on t on TLC, which everyone should watch, like she expressed how she really wants to be a mother. And I think she was kind of like sad that it hadn't happened for her yet.
And she, you know. And she has endometriosis.
So I think she had like a lot of issues with her health for a period of time. Yeah.
So I'm just so happy that it's happened for her. And the pictures are so beautiful.
I need to go see the pictures. There's two photos.
Parchee. Like seriously, she's so Parchee.
Two photos, black and white. She has a pretty substantial bump.
She was also now spotted by paparazzi, like out with her bum picking up breakfast. And the caption on the photos is next chapter, motherhood.
Like, okay, beautiful. So cute.
She's wearing the platform Uggs that I have to tell her no pregnant woman should wear. I roll my ankle in the doctor's office wearing them.
I wear them too much. And like I actually fell the other day wearing them.
Thank God I was with Ben. I keep catching myself.
So nothing catastrophic has happened. But the platform Uggs, and I love them so much, like are not for pregnant women.
That feels right. You should tell her.
Yeah. Yeah.
So, you know, sometimes when we talk about her on the toast, she, like, hears about it. She'll send me a message.
So, Olivia, stop wearing them popcorn mugs. Like, they're seriously dangerous.
Sending you so much love and peace and joy during this time. And I hope you're having a daughter so that she can wear your wedding dress one day because that's how timeless it is.
Yeah. Very happy for them.
Me too. Now, for the fifth and final story that will lead into the tv recap starting with love is blind because news came out at the love is blind reunion that ad from love is blind what city a couple seasons ago i forget what city but you remember her she was honestly awesome she's the worst guy yeah she well he was trying his best I feel and it wasn't good enough today and also she was talking to Matthew oh yes it was the Chelsea Jimmy season oh that was I think North Carolina okay AD from love is blind North Carolina is engaged to Ollie Sutherland from love is blind UK which not a lot of people but yeah didn't know who this was And if you were as invested over the summer in Love is Blind UK as Jackie and I were for some reason, like, you know Ole.
And I actually am afraid for her. Okay, so Ole, and this is why the UK one was so interesting for a multitude of reasons.
But Ole ended up with somebody who was curvy. And they really don't throw a lot of curvy contestants on the show.
And that's actually like a blind thing. Like it's a physical thing.
Everybody they cast is like on the same level for the most part, attractive wise. So it doesn't make it that much of a question like his love blind.
So it was really interesting what happened with him and Demi. And he was definitely a dick and he's definitely really shallow.
And I don't have high hopes for them as a couple, but and everything they were like selling at at the reunion. I was like, yeah, sure.
But I saw his season. Like, I know him.
Do you know what I mean? I know. It was tough.
But I want the best. He was tough.
I just want to say, if anybody watched Love is Blind, Minnesota, and like Mrs. Love is Blind, if you're, go watch UK.
Because that will also like give context for this. And that was such a crazy storyline.
Because the whole time it's like, he doesn't like her. He doesn't like her.
But he's like saying like her but he's like saying all the right things I think he was really misleading just because he didn't want to look like a dick no and so like the minute cameras were down and it's like the day before the wedding she literally didn't hear from him up until the altar like he was playing such a part he was a real actor and he did not want to look like he didn't like her because of her looks, even though that's exactly what it was. Like, and she ended up using the show to go on this like amazing journey of self-discovery and like loving herself.
And like, it was beautiful, you know? Um, but it was a really good season. So while I love this cross promo, I don't know if this is a good match.
Like I think he's also really thirsty. And I think like him dating someone from the American franchise, which is so much more popular.
Like, I don't know. It gives me pause.
I don't want to be so negative. Yeah, no, but I don't know.
There's a lid for every pot. And I also feel like A.D.
I feel like A.D. was I feel like she's happy to now be in a relationship that's like love is blind oriented to be like in a reality couple.
But I also could see how like on a personality level, like they both could have fun together and like why they hit it off I'm sure all the alums from these shows meet each other not everyone gets together and dates for so long to actually get engaged so I do think that there's something there and I will support it yeah that's nice of you um I also think AD uh dating within the franchise is really good first she recently launched a podcast like a love is Blind recap type of show, like post pods or whatever. And so dating someone within the franchise is just like good for business.
Yeah. Now I want to talk to you about the reunion.
Please do. And I'm just going to bring up a picture of everybody because I'm like so 100% going to forget.
Well, I'm good on our nicknames. Your what? Like our nicknames really work for me.
No, but like I will forget certain people. Okay.
So let me say this about the Love is Blind reunion. It was absolutely horrible.
I hate every single one of these people. Yeah.
I hate every single one of these people. I hate Netflix.
I hate Nick. I hate Vanessa.
So like the way all these people wasted my time is not forgivable. And the fact that I spent another hour and a half watching the reunion and every conversation at the reunion was about something that happened off camera.
So literally, it's like these two couples, this is what happened. You're a liar.
So they couldn't agree. I don't know what's real and what's not.
I don't know who to believe. Like it was just, they didn't recap the season.
They recapped what happened after the show started airing and in the years since. It was just annoying because they all disagreed on what happened not on small things

like sarah and ben were like we had this conversation i left the conversation thinking we broke up i left the conversation thinking we were moving in together in nashville like how are you so fucking far away it was so annoying i'm like i don't know i don't even care i don't have i don't have enough care to choose someone to believe that's crazy yeah so let me go couple by couple. The only saving grace of this entire show was Shawty and Nurse.
So Taylor and Danielle, they ended up getting married. Taylor and Danielle? Daniel, sorry.
Two girls. Same sex couple.
No. Taylor and Daniel, they look so happy together.
They bought a house in the suburbs. Not problematic.
She made a joke about him following her. Can I just say something? Like what if it turns out that he did follow her? I was thinking the same thing.
I think that even if he did follow her, she wouldn't care now. Like she, I think she loves having a husband who absolutely worships the ground she walks on.
Their families are so close. Like shortly after the season, his mom was diagnosed with leukemia.
And the hospital where she's getting treatment is the hospital where taylor's brother is an administrator he lives right by it the dad was staying with taylor's brother daniel's dad was staying with taylor's brother while the like the families are so intertwined they bought a house they are so happy he has a tattoo of her i think it wouldn't even matter now we just matter they are truly the whole time but yeah whatever like seriously whatever Small price to pay for happiness. I think that these two were meant to find each other in this small town and they couldn't believe that they hadn't yet.
And Love is Blind was just the means to get them together. Like they are really, I have all the confidence that they will be together for a while.
Like it's really cute. I love that.
And like she is, he worships her. It's great.
Okay. So like they're the only unproblematic people.
I just can't believe that the whole season was like every trailer. He's following me on Instagram.
I know. It was the big drama of the season and it was nothing.
And it wasn't real. And they're the only people who got married.
Right. No, the fact that they're the only standing couple when after the pods, they were pretty much broken up over this is is really crazy and every couple was so strong next up I also think one of the one of the storylines that kept me interested up until the very end was Dave and Lauren and them at the reunion I actually thought we got a lot of closure on and she looked great actually really like her she's really um she's grown on me and he sat he was just basically like, I found out a couple of weeks ago that like the guy who was saying all these things, I found out some things about him that really discredited him.
And now I feel so stupid. So we spent this whole year, like still believing his friends and his mom and his sister.
And now he's like, no, I found out a couple of things like last month. And now I just feel so, and Lauren was just like like it didn't even make her feel better like yeah it was it was so little so late yeah I feel like he also just didn't even want to answer for like what he did on the show so he's like oh no you were right I saw it too late sorry and Vanessa was like well what does your sister think about like everything you were so worried the whole time your sister your sister your sister like your girlfriend your sister you want to make out, what does she think? And he was like, well, the whole reason she was so concerned was that she didn't want me like coming off bad and getting a bad edit or whatever.
And like, that's exactly what happened. Like I came off really poorly and I'm getting a lot of hate.
So it's kind of like a self-fulfilling prophecy. Right, that's what happens when you like are too concerned with how you're gonna look.
You overproduce. You have to just be.
And if you're, sometimes they do make a good person look bad and that's really unfortunate. But hopefully most of the time we can just see who a person is.
Dave then also went on to say that like Lauren is the one that got away. And he loves her.
And Lauren was like, I don't believe you. Like literally it's been a year.
I was like Ollie. You didn't reach out to me until like a couple of weeks ago.
And that was a theme with a lot of the couples. They did not talk.
There was like a fallout after the wedding. They, you know, maybe talked or dated or dated for a few weeks but then they stopped talking and none of them started talking again until I think they knew the reunion was taping and so a lot of them want to make amends so that they don't uh look bad and have the person like say things that maybe you told them in confidence pillow talk yeah well they shouldn't do that anyway no and so that was also a recurring theme it was like the real throwing under the bus of a person that you claim to love um which i found to be like really disingenuous so it happened a lot and let me say this there's there's kind of a theme going on with sarah and ben who's boy with the church and girl with the values and then virginia and devin i told you they were having conversations about politics and she shared shared that Devin did not want to have those conversations on the show.
On the show. And so they had those conversations offline and it turned out to be so different from hers and they really couldn't match.
And that's a huge reason why she didn't. But then she said the weekend leading up to the wedding he was acting.
Like his mom got a wedding gift from her boss and it was a check for a thousand dollars and like Devin didn't tell her about it, which is like really makes it seem like he's pocketing a thousand dollars. Like that's meant for both of them.
Whereas he was like, no, like we didn't know if we were getting married. So like I was just holding onto this wedding gift in case we had a wedding or in case we didn't.
And I don know I felt like like at that they were just trying to hurt each other you know like and it's sad because you said you loved this person and so with Sarah I'm like her values her values her values her values her values right and that's that's a core part of who she is whether you like it or not like that's who she is yeah so why would you say yes to this man like that to me is so disingenuous like you it matters so much to you. It was the reason you did not want to marry him.
And right before he even proposed to you, you said before you say anything, like my values, what do you think? He's like, yeah, I'm willing to like grow. Yeah.
And like he wasn't on the same page as you and he didn't give a shit about any of it. Like you did.
So why are we even here? Like that is so annoying. When something that someone says in the pods is the reason why they don't end up together when it's like you accepted that then like the time to deal with it was then if you're going to say yes to an engagement like you are committed to working on it even if it's not something that's ideal for you but for it to be the thing that breaks you up like before you've even had a like giving this person a chance to change or grow like I just feel like it's bad fate like then it was always a no and by the way they dated after Sarah and Ben they dated after the wedding even though at the wedding she was like I don't and he's like I don't either for now like I think we should still the clip of them she was like we'll see we'll see yeah He was like, we'll date.
And she was like, I don't. And he's like, I don't either for now.
Like, I think we should still. I saw the clip of them.

She was like, we'll see.

We'll see.

Yeah, he was like, we'll date.

And she was like, we'll see.

Yeah, I don't know about that.

So I was like, okay, you know what?

Like, clean break.

But so they still went on to date.

And she had this travel nurse contract

in Nashville for a couple of months.

And they were like trying to decide what to do.

So the day before she left,

she said that they had a conversation

that was like, you'll meet me in a couple of days.

You don't need to bring your car.

You'll fly out. We'll keep my car.
We'll spend however. She's like, and She's like, stay for two weeks, but you can stay for two months, like whatever it is.
And then when I come back to Minnesota, we'll figure out our life together. And he left that conversation allegedly saying we had broken up.
And so he never came to Nashville. She was like, he ghosted me.
I'm like, how are we seriously, unless there's a language barrier, like it's just so frustrating. We didn't see that conversation.

So much of the reunion was like,

he said, she said about things we've never seen.

And so like, I actually stopped caring pretty quickly.

Yeah, but I just want to say,

I think the person who was like committed to her,

who then even dated her after she embarrassed him on TV

with no cameras there,

I don't think he was the one that ghosted her.

Just using context clues.

I don't know.

She did a better job of explaining. Like she had like actual, he was just kept saying, remember i don't remember i don't remember i don't remember and she was like well in the conversation you said x y and she had like real examples from this conversation and he was just like oh no i thought we broke up like it was just such a lazy answer like how how do you think you broke up she was like what are you talking about we decided we were you were gonna leave your car in minnesota and my car like she had actual facts details from the conversation.
And then she also had witnesses

because she was like, then I had the 12-hour drive to Nashville and I called Taylor, who's Daniel's wife, and was talking about it with her. So she has other witnesses to corroborate her story.
And he was just like the whole time like, I don't remember. I don't remember.
That's so weird. He's literally been like so ride or die for her.
So so many things just didn't make sense. I'm like, you guys dated after? She should have never said yes to him.
Like it was just, it was so honestly uninteresting to me. But they liked each other so much.
So like she should say yes to him. The final couple from the wedding is Monica and Joey.
And they like went really sideways. So she said no.
And then he also was like, yeah, I'm not 100% there. I think they talked a little bit, dated a little bit after, tried to stay friends.
Their problem was that they were never really able to get out of the friend zone. Like he was very goofy and funny and she was like, I didn't feel like you liked me.
And he was like, I did, but she's like, I had to beg you to touch me and that humiliating. And she was like really mad.
And then there was like drama where he was like sliding into Madison's DMs, all this off camera. And I seriously, he was like, no, I didn't.
I ran into you at a bar. So they're talking like, it was a million things we hadn't seen.
I ran into Madison at a bar. We had this conversation and Madison was loving fine.
Anytime she was a part of a couple different dramas. So whenever the people who were in the couples got the majority of the reunion time.
And then there was a second couch with like Molly, people who like didn't make it out of the pods, but still had drama. Meg, Mason, Alex, Ben Platt.
And so whenever Madison was like plucked from the loser couch to like talk, she was like having her moment. You know, she had like screenshots in her titties and she was like so like living.
She was to have a moment i don't know why i do not believe one word that comes out of her mouth or lie at least we know she's so sinister like i just i couldn't stand her so she got brought into the monica and joey drama she was like well you messaged me and i thought that was really she loves big words like manipulative yeah oh one thing i wanted to say wanted to say that I actually really appreciated Lauren saying was like to Dave I know you're getting like a lot of hate and I've seen like you know people calling you a narcissist and a manipulator I'm like I know what those words mean like you're not that like you're just like a dick but I didn't like me and like wouldn't just tell me that and instead blamed it on me I really appreciated her saying that because like this cast in particular loves big words and you're a manipulatorulator. You're a narcissist.
And she was like, you're not. You're just like an ass.
But you're not a narcissist. And he was like, I really appreciate you saying that.
I'm sure he's been getting like a lot of hate. Like just, you know, people, you're an abusing narcissist.
Gaslighter. You're not.
Yeah, right. Like you're not.
I just hate you. But you're not.
You weren't the best. You weren't a good boyfriend.
And Madison is very like that. She loves big words.
And so she had called someone like manipulator. She called Mason a manipulator.
And everybody started laughing. Don't you know Mason? He's like the weirdest person.
Like he's not a manipulator. And so then they went to the loser couch to talk about like the Meg, Mason, Alex, Madison drama with a side of Molly.
And oh my God, the way I couldn't care. Like it was so, I'm sorry.
Like the breakdown that you guys are looking for, you're not gonna get it from me. Like all I have to say is losers.
Like I can't, I don't trust Madison. I don't believe Madison.
She had these like receipts that she pulled, printed and like left in her bra and pulled it out. She thought she was having like a reality TV viral moment.
It was, she's such a try hard. Her receipts, I'm sorry, proved nothing.
She's like, I have proof that you said you hated Mason. And she goes on reading these like weird conversations between her and Ben Platt.
And like, he didn't say that. Like he, he quite literally didn't.
So I just, I could not stand Megan Mason dated on and off for like the last year, but they really figured out that they're better as friends. They did a reveal.
Like when they met for the first time, they had someone film them. It was really cute.
They showed it to us. I really wish that they had worked out, but Meg totally had his back.
It was Meg, Mason, and Ben Platt, who is Alex, all against Madison. She couldn't believe.
She was like, why is it that when a woman does something that a man does? Jackie, I couldn't fucking take it. She's seriously awful.
I can't stand. That's crazy.
What's Ben Platt up to? He must be thrilled. He did not say one word.
He had three seconds of time and he just used it to say, but he also, I think they cut him out. There have been some really crazy things said about him on social media.
He's like a teacher and had inappropriate relations. Really dark stuff.
What's his name? Ben Platt, Mason, Alexander. I don't know.
Alex, yeah. Excuse me.
Yeah, so I think they probably wanted to show as little of him as possible and they did just that. Okay, I'll have to dig in.
So let me make sure I didn't miss anyone. No, I feel like I missed everyone.
Yeah, her armpit receipts. Oh, and then they were really wasting time being like, the top five moments in Netflix's Love is Blind history.
What if they have as number one? You are going to choke when you see. And that was like a good one, but that's not number one.
They had Lauren and Cameron Hamilton as their reveal as number two. I'm sorry, that should have been number one.
They had the Megan Fox, chelsea moment that definitely is one um it was so annoying like it was so annoying and then they had what's the what's the name of that guy from season one but it was diamond and i don't remember his name but when they broke up in season one on the honeymoons like and he because because he did not share that he was bisexual which is something you have to share she just wanted to talk about it about it. And then he like made fun of her way and left.
It was and threw the ring in the pool. And she made fun of him.
Like, go get on another dick boy. That was like actually one of the craziest moments ever.
That is the number one moment is the fact that they won't be honest about that. It didn't even make top five.
Like, you're not serious about this countdown. Then they had this like collage in Minnesota Vikings, like making like they filmed filmed themselves talking to the Love is Blind cast.
It was so stupid. And then, the craziest thing happened.
Okay. Someone who we love, and this is not a slight against him, Alex Warren, performed.
Oh, I didn't know it was Alex Warren. So Alex Warren, who was, we were talking about him on the show a couple of weeks ago, former Hype House member turned like Lewis Capaldi singer.
He sings like a bunch of songs you guys definitely know. They were like, for our first time ever, we have a performer.
So not only was the performer not in the room with them, it was like a pre-recorded video that Alex had like singers and dancers and they were all doing it in the pods. Like it was so weird.
Like one drummer was in one pod and Alex was in another pod. On a completely different stage.

It wasn't live.

So you see the cast like dancing.

They're watching it on a TV.

Like it was the strangest thing I've ever seen in my life.

That's insane.

I don't even know how to recap it.

Like it was a cool like music video for Alex.

It was a music video.

It was all, it was like edited.

It was not live.

Was it a new song?

Had you heard it before?

Yeah, I had.

It's from TikTok.

It's like,

Head is up in the clouds.

You know that one?

I don't know.

Probably.

I'm familiar with him.

Whatever.

It was like a good performance.

No shade.

I liked that moment for him.

Like a huge global stage.

But what on earth?

That's really crazy. And that was another thing that happened this whole season was like the music was so amazing.
They were playing Gracie Abrams. Wrecking ball.
Talk about a less worthy group for this soundtrack. Like there wasn't a moment this season that I was moved, that I laughed.
It was horrible. And I'm sorry.
They literally gave the worst look into like life in the midwest i don't think they should ever return to the midwest because the like the people were horrible everything was horrible thank god we got taylor and daniel it was just horrible and every single person what i learned from the reunion every single person turned out to be somebody completely different than they were on the show like that's so frustrating joey like big, you know, golden retriever, like, he's messaging Madison. Like, they're all, I don't know if they all made each other look bad or they all just, like, were acting, but it was really fucking annoying to, like, I left hating everyone.
Yeah, I feel like this season loses a lot of credibility because only one couple got together. I feel like you could have, you know, explained away the boring, like, okay, it's not the greatest, but like if true love was found, it was just because these are like boring people who want to find love.
But because it wasn't even that, it's like, so what did we all just watch? Well, attempt to watch. And I'm sorry, like these outfits, Devin, did you see what Devin was wearing? Jackie, they looked so crazy.
Like, that's what I'm saying. The reason why this season was so bad was because it was this group of extremely ordinary, extremely uncool extremely uninteresting extremely not stylish like they were just dreadful i know but like dreadful things also are sometimes why it's great like it's just regular people and it has to you have to be like regular to really want this to work otherwise you're coming on for the fame if you know and you're i i don't know it's a delicate balance and hated every minute every minute of this season.
And I'm literally filing a class action lawsuit against Netflix for my time. I already lost an hour with daylight savings.
Oh, and you know my ass. I skipped through that wedding episode so fucking hard.
I watched the whole reunion because they did a good job of making the trailer look like it was going to be interesting. Oh my God.
Biggest waste of my fucking time. Like seriously, I'm so sorry to any,

if I like influenced anybody to watch it

because my recaps were so funny.

Yeah.

And I'm sorry,

that's like kind of the blessing

and the curse of being this funny.

But all in all,

it was like less than a month total of TV

because we started that week that you were here.

Yeah.

And so it was like three weeks.

That's good.

They did too much.

I hope they learn from this season.

They really need to cut down the wedding episodes and there were four weddings not even a lot down the pods two hours cut down the pods like honestly if there's so much happening after the season like pick up your cameras and also if producers are producing people and there's say a love triangle or a square encourage everyone to get engaged i want to see all four people from the square and the honeymoon. I want to see them see each other by the pool.
When we spent so much of the pods talking about Meg, Mason, Alex, and Madison, and they were not in Honduras. The best dynamics are when people who were between two people see the other person, talk to the other person.
Barnett and Jessica. Jessica and...
No, but Jessica wasn't in... Wait, but that lake? The in uh but that lake the party at the lake that was a good season it was an amazing oh that was another moment that was another moment that was in the top exactly so another moment that was in the top five jackie was at the lake party oh no before the lake party jrammy getting his apple watch left in the car remember oh my oh yeah she ate him up that.
Yeah. She ate him up.
That was a good, they shouldn't have done that. Cause it really highlighted.
There wasn't one noteworthy moment this season that even compares to any of the moments from the top five. That's really what I will say.
Like encourage the triangles and the rhombuses to all come. We can partner swap when we get there, but like that's what's best.
And the fact that like there was a square and no one got together mason madison ben cut the whole thing i don't want to watch it yeah so okay now it's time for white lotus jackie and i both had two episodes to catch up on like i don't even know what to say nothing happened i was so bored i just the only thing the only redeeming quality of the show is two things. One, I love that little girl group.
Like, I love how they all operate. The conversation about politics was so funny.
And then when she sees them, like, talking shit about her, like, I think that, like, that's actually very real. And Mike White has said, like, no, I was on vacation.
I saw these, like, three women. And every time one of them got up, they started talking about the girl who left.
Like, it's very real. I actually really like it.
And the dad, Thomas Ravenel. The dad is my favorite character.
And also, now I've learned more about him as like a person in real life. Like he wore a hostage pin to the Brits.
Like this man is amazing. He's Jewish.
I love him so much. Lucius Malfoy is Jewish.
And he's literally like, Lucius is like a Nazi. Like he has white hair.
I think he's like, I think there's definitely something Nazi like about the Malfoys. Like that's like Aryan vibes.
I love him. And it hurts me to see him going through it.
Oh my God. And he's such a good actor.
I have such a pit. Every time he comes on stage, I'm like anxious for him.
I just want things to work out for him. Like I want him to have his freedom and his money and his house.
And like, it just hurts that like the person that I love the most is really suffering. And now drug addiction.
He picks up a gun. The lorazepram is so funny.

Parker Posey is a real highlight of the show too.

I think they're definitely trying to like replicate the Jennifer Coolidge.

You know funny older woman with her.

And she's doing a really good job.

Everything else like my God is so dreadful.

The characters are so stupid.

And I liked Guy Tuck.

And I wanted him and Black Pink Girl to get together. I was rooting for him for him but he's an idiot and he shouldn't be in charge of the gate no and like what happened to the the gate at first i was like you know what you were merely a victim but when you left the gun out and then the gate open to go take your girlfriend back to the dance no he's so unfocused like this is a big hotel.
Like you're the person in charge.

The first line of defense.

No.

And the fact that when she came in,

he leaves the gun on the table,

it's literally pointing directly at her.

That felt like ominous, you know?

Well, that's how the whole season opens with a shooting.

It's like, that's how the gun gets into the hotel.

That's what we're learning.

Is it that gun?

I assume it is.

I feel like it was a lot of shots in that opening scene. And many bullets was a little gun right I don't know like I don't even know I know these are the questions we're supposed to be asking the couple um with the snakes I forget their names like Rick and Morty Rick and yeah they're my least favorites.
I hate them.

Like, I hate everyone.

Yeah, I hope that Saxon and the girl in the pink get together.

I ship them.

The little brother and then Gary's girlfriend?

And Gary's girlfriend.

Oh, got it. Because she deserves to have a life of fun with someone who's wealthy and will treat her right.

Well, he's not wealthy anymore, so she won't stay long. But they're having fun.
What is she doing with Gary? They dropped the R slur. And that doesn't happen a lot.
And it was very powerful. That was funny.
When he's talking to his lawyer, he's like, are you fucking? And I was like, oh, you don't hear that word a lot. So when you do, it does hit comedically because it's so out of left field.
And you're not expecting Thomas Ravenel to say it.

Oh my God.

When he was sitting on the deck of the boat having drink after drink.

Talking about how his dad was the governor.

No, no.

Not in that scene when he's at the bar and then Greg comes over and he's like,

the way he's just sitting there, it's Thomas Ravenel.

Well, when he talks about how his grandfather was the governor,

I'm like, oh, that's Thomas Ravenel.

He is Thomas Ravenel and it's crushing.

And I love Thomas Ravenel. It's crushing.
Me too. He's the best character.
I love great things for Thomas Ravanel. I'd like to see Belinda who works at the hotel in Hawaii, like putting things together.
Okay. But why does she keep looking at her robe and being spooked? Oh, I don't know.
Was she looking at her robe? I thought she was looking at like that part of the room. Why does she keep looking at that part of her room and being spooked? I think there's like a spooky vibe coming from there.
What? I don't know. Like what? I literally don't know.
And how are we supposed to pick up on that? I just want to say I hate this show. Like I was in so much physical pain watching it.
Like to not pick up my cell phone every 10 seconds was a true test of my faith. But when you pick up your phone like it makes it worse.
Because then actually have no idea what's going on so I didn't pick up my phone but I did pause to pick up my phone watching the first episode seriously took me two hours I think it was an hour long and then for the second episode I did it like turned off the lights and curled like I watched it curled up because I'm not on my phone curled up so I was able to power through better but you really have to mentally prepare oh and the daughter oh my gosh uh Piper yeah it's like sure she's worried about like her year abroad I'm like girl there will be no year abroad like she's so self-centered and like the mom's going to withdrawals the dad's on drugs going to jail She really thinks she's better than all of them. But if she wants to spend the year abroad, then her dad could be like, oh, cool.
I'll stay with you. Yeah.
Oh, he might be her get out of jail free card. I feel like he might be aligned actually.
Yeah. Yeah.
That's a good call. Yeah.
Like I just don't care about any of these people. Are we missing anyone? It's a three girls, Rick and Morty, the Ratliffs.
Belinda. Belinda, then Guy Took and for some reason, I don't know one person's name in the show except Guy Took.
That's because he wears a pin, a name pin. Wait, when he thought he was getting promoted and they're like, dude, you literally let in a robber.
You're lucky you didn't get fired? No, but the fact that I was getting getting fired or at least like demoted to maybe concierge like someone whose job it is to just be friendly he would be amazing at that and instead they give this guy a gun totally so um i hate the show i like hate watching it going into town and what's gonna happen with valentine and his friends? It's not going to be good. Oh, I don't know.
I don't know. It's weird.
Yeah. And like partying with your butler? Like, how desperate are you? No, she's so sad.
Yeah, the Bridget Moynihan. Yeah.
Like your boyfriend doesn't answer you for one day and like you're spiraling out in Thailand. What fun? And then they send her to the geriatric pool.
That was funny. That was funny.
But she's seriously really scary. I feel like she could be the one with the gun.
All three of them are really scary. Like, I don't know who I like and who I don't like.
I definitely don't like the one who lives in New York. Of course.
She's, like, the least likable one. She's the worst.
Yeah. Leslie Bibb, like, is unoffensive.
Like, she just doesn't really do or say anything. But she is scary, too, because she's so buttoned up that you think she could crack.

A burst.

Yeah.

But I love Leslie Bibb as an actress.

Me too.

I am having a hard time separating the art from the artist.

I'm kind of like her character.

And then a Bridget, LA girl, is just dreadful.

And just so fake.

Holier than thou. Yeah soul like this show like these recaps are interesting because they the show does a really good job of like creating these really developed characters and you learn more about them as time goes on but in terms of entertaining like i'm watching a show for things to happen and like these recaps are interesting because we what did eight minutes talking about like the things that happened but i Right.
Eight minutes, I watched two hours. I watched over two hours of content for eight minutes of interesting.
That's why it's hard to do what we do. You try being a TV recapper for a day.
Try it. I just finished work and it's 519.
I just finished White Lotus and it's 1119. It's literally midnight.
Okay well we gotta get this episode up and out because everybody needs to know everything. Let them know coach.
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