The Philadelphia Chips: Tuesday, February 11th, 2025

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Good morning millennials. Welcome back the Toast and happy Tuesday.
My girl is back. She's back to black.
She's in all black living in Florida. Hey, Jax, how you doing? Hi, turtalu.
Yes, I'm in all black because I'm wearing a whole new outfit. I feel brand new, one, because I'm wearing new clothes, but two, because I'm feeling so much better.
I'm really over the hump of the flu. Like tomorrow, I feel like I'll feel 100% today.
I'm wearing new clothes but two because I'm feeling so much better I'm really over the hump of the flu like tomorrow I feel like I'll feel 100% today I'm like 95 but no complaints considering where I came from and then while I was sick some clothing deliveries had arrived I was finally able to try them on today I'm obsessed this is the bodysuit t-shirt I was telling everyone about and it's everything and more likeriff, no problem. Isn't it just one of those days where you're feeling extreme gratitude for your health, like little things you used to take for granted, just like breathing through your nose.
I know I was thinking about that because that's always what you say when you're sick. You're like, I'll never miss.
No, we really take for granted, like just feeling decent. For me, what I will appreciate is just my ability to do things,

like to get things done, to stand up, to cook,

to just like have a little bit of strength.

Like I will not take that for granted.

And sometimes when I'm feeling like good, aka normal,

I'm just like acknowledge the space.

Because you know me, I'm always like bogged down by something,

migraine, whatever it is.

Acknowledge the space. So when something's not ailing me, it's so pargy.
And we have to ATS. Speaking of cooking, just a quick segue.
I spent all day in the kitchen yesterday making muffins, but mostly making content. For the Patreon, Jackie had this fab title for a new series we're going to start calling Barefoot Conturdy.
As you guys know, I've actually never successfully cooked something in my life like to completion, even if it's edible, which most of the time it's not. It's never right.
It's never right. It's so crazy.
And you'll follow a recipe and you'll give it your all and like something goes so terribly wrong. Yeah.
So in sort of in my nesting journey, but also I was just being like, really, really, I've been craving a chocolate chip muffin for the last couple of days and I bought all the ingredients. So Jackie was like, you should vlog it.
And I knew that if I vlogged it, I would have to make the muffins right. So it was almost like an impetus for me to get the muffins correct.
It was so funny. I cooked them for me and Ben.
The vlog is up on Patreon now. I don't want to spoil how the muffins turned out.
So you'll just have to tune in to find out. But all's that to say, I had one for breakfast this morning.
That bodes well. Yeah.
Yeah. And I'm like kind of loving this new show.
The Barefoot Con Turdy. Yeah.
Yeah. It kind of sounds like Spanish.
Like I'm Barefoot Con Turdy. With Turdy.
But then us real ones, you're not the barefoot con tessa. I'm the barefoot con turdy.
It was honestly like, I thought it was maybe going to be like a one-off vlog, but then Jackie came up with this fabulous series and it's giving quarterly installment. It's totally giving series regular.
People are loving it. Like they're saying I'm the most amazing chef.
Like I'm literally made for the Food Network. I think BSC should

watch his fucking back. Do you think he's

quaking a little bit? A little bit quake?

So I made 12

muffins.

12. Now I have

to be honest. I gave one to our dog walker

because I had so many. So let's say I had

11. Did you give one to Olive and Butters?

No, no, no, no. They're chocolate jacky.

I had 11 muffins, okay? As of this morning, there were three left. And Ben, we tried to do the math last night.
It was like hard because we were like picking at them. Ben ate about, in one day, seven muffins.
And this is also a person who actually just started Manjaro the week before. So it's kind of- Imagine how many would have eaten.
It was kind of a test of the efficacy of Manjaro in which it failed. Why you could have eaten all of them.
He basically did. I what I don't get any like I had like one and a half and then I had another one this morning.
So we have two left. So is he more so quaking that you're like coming for his culinary throne or that like you're bringing all this talent into the house and he's going to be eating more no I don't think he really cares more about like even having competition in terms of in the kitchen because Ben is going to be a better cook than me till the day I could practice every day for the rest of my life I think it's more so about like having like another culinary creator just having a lot of food oh you mean the content the content yeah yeah that's kind of what I meant it's all one yeah and I was just kind of thinking because like baking muffins is such like a comfort creator thing to do right like your favorite youtubers just like make muffins but there was absolutely nothing comforting about my video like it was just we were on edge it was really chaotic so I was kind of giving like some people are comfort creators and I realized I'm a chaos creator you're the anti-comfort creator you're You're like the influence.
Yep. Chaos creator.
I love that. And I feel like you like chaos creation, like mukbangs.
I do. I do.
Are chaos creations. Except let me tell you, baking, and it took a long time because I was being really thorough.
My back will never recover. Like I almost pulled up a bar stool to finish cooking.
Like my back was killing me. Not for the faint faint of heart it's a flaw in the system that you really can't sit while you cook now I understand like in my big fat greek wedding when she's always like sitting at a barstool by the kitchen sink peeling potatoes especially potatoes hovering over a kitchen garbage yeah it's back-breaking work yeah that's one where you could kind of schedule a break but not even they should make some sort of contra of contraption.
Like, cause if you're over the stove, like you cannot sit. Yeah.
They should make a something. I was also waiting to post the vlog to see like people telling me, like Turdy, you did this wrong, you know? And for the most part, nobody said that.
Although there is a conspiracy theory because I was having a really hard time telling a part, like which was the flour, which was the salt, which was the sugar. Cause I them all in these stupid like aesthetic containers and I didn't label them.
Okay. So I knew the flour.
Like the flour is so easy because it's like, but the sugar and the salt, I was like, I don't know. They're really like giving such similar energy.
And then somebody made the amazing point that I might have actually, instead of sugar, used protein powder. A couple of people, that's like a running theory amongst the community.
They're protein muffins. I know, because they did taste like a little healthy.
In which case, then I made sugar-free muffins. But how did you use protein powder? Like in your house, they're in fancy aesthetic containers that are labeled? A couple of months ago, like right, not right after, but after I found out I was pregnant, before I could tell people, I was like feeling like doing projects around the house.
Like I was really feeling like I like I was really feeling like I need to make my home yeah and one of the things I did and this was months ago was me and Ben went to Bloomingdale's we bought all new pots and pans new knives like we really wanted the kitchen to be part of you we cleaned out all the um cabinets and one of the things I did was buy those you know oxo containers and I just put I don't even remember what I put in there and I didn't label it so it's entirely possible I made like either salt muffins protein powder muffins or sugar muffins I don't know salt muffins love yeah salt muffins love yes salt muffins um it's Tuesday I meant to tell you you know we have dear toasters today I know they're really good we're kind of wearing like. Not complimentary.
What's the word? Like I should be wearing your outfit and you should be wearing mine. Totally.
Yours is so mean. This is so you.
But Claude, you can't see, but these are barrel jeans. Oh my God.
I got barrel jeans. You'll see on my Instagram stories.
Check me out later. They're so sickening.
Barrelina Farms. I look so awesome.
Oh my. You do look great.
No, you can't even. I don't even need compliments because I know you can't really see me and you can't appreciate the barrel nature of my outfit.
But I'm a barrel chested freedom fighter. Okay.
Oh my God. I was actually thinking this morning about Jersey Shore as a concept because Ben weirdly came in and was like, G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G unitG-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G- Oh, and I feel like as a culture, we don't talk enough about like that conspiracy theory that Mike had started that him and Snooki slept together while she was with Gianni.
Like he was telling the truth. Probably, but that's none of our business.
A hundred percent. A hundred percent.
But like she was like we wrote for her. So America wrote for her so hard that like we didn't care about the validity of the statement.
And I don't even remember this time. But you telling it to me now, it's like I don't care if they did or they didn't.
It's not about like Mike being a liar. about Mike being a shit starter yeah no he like tortured her with it like over two years with like whisper it in her ear and like just like threatened to release the tapes there weren't tapes you know what I mean um and unit was there remember that was like Mike's friend who like really knew the truth I was just thinking about that this morning those are the days those were the days but I I have just one thing more to say about my barrel pants.
Yeah, please. Bring it back.
I actually don't think I look that much different to myself because I always judge like how different my outfits are based on Zach's reaction. Like the one time I wore those jeans and a t-shirt, like he literally dropped to the floor in the kitchen.
Yep, yep, yep, yep. He like literally was like, can I have a hug? Like he was like it's giving Stephen I was being sometimes you just walk into your house a different person and you're no longer Jackie or Sarah I'm Stefania yes Stefania no it's I have this joke with my college friends um oh wow whenever I would like dress normal like that like so I'm wearing jeans and t-shirt like that they would call me Jackie Cohen like just like a normal girl oh and you have to know like when Jackie was in college she like of course you still use fashion to express yourself but you were really you were really like into kawaii fashion bright colors like very out there yeah no every day big huge chunky platforms a costume party you guys can't even picture it you can't even picture the stuff jackie you should do like a little collage on your instagram story today of some of the crazy wacky outfits that you used to wear in college it was a form of self-expression and you looked super cute but so the joke was even funnier because you were such a crazy dresser like literally i would never have worn just like jeans and a t-shirt yeah and if i did like i was being jackie cohen so now that's funny i didn't know that you had like a little joke with your friends wow when I posted my jeans and a t-shirt the other day I was like this is so not a me outfit my friend Sam commented she was like it's Jackie Cohen I love that like sometimes I just like they'd be like be normal just like be Jackie Cohen I'm like it's so hard it's so hard anyways my husband walked into the kitchen this morning I was about to film him because I wanted to like get on his on camera his reaction walk right past me so we're good I'm not that I'm not that changed I'm still me oh okay Stefania can like remain at bay I'm not Stefania yeah oh my that's so funny um what was I gonna say we have dear toasters what are the stories like today they're good uh I don't think there's anything like that you haven't heard of yet but we're going to discuss a lot of things a lot of things need to be discussed by the story everyone's loving our super bowl recap like they said we love it so much this is the best most like amazing thing we've ever heard classic like it was yeah that was fun it was good times no it's so fun to like really all be talking about the same thing yeah now we're all gonna split off into our into our different right but we were all together for a time for a moment in time and that's why it's like even sadder that the chiefs fucking stunk because we all came together for you guys like we were all rooting for your game not even i know people rooting for eagles people we were all rooting for the game they couldn't even get us's fine.
I'm a fan. Wait, we were getting lots of Eagles hate yesterday, being like, you guys can't even.
And what did we say? I think because we were making so much of the fact that the Chiefs played so badly that it almost sounded like we were saying the Eagles won because the Chiefs like stunk so hard. They wanted us to acknowledge how fantastically the Eagles played.
And that, and did we not? We said like said like it was and i even said like i thought that they were only winning like against the commanders because they were playing like a team of deaf dumb and blind um but it turns out like they're actually a skilled team like i didn't understand where the hate was coming from i guess like even in what you just said like there's a backhanded compliment turns out like no i'm saying i was wrong right and they just like one acknowledgement that the eagles have been amazing all season that they've slayed all season and the chiefs actually keep winning and then if you really want to go down what they're saying it's that the chiefs like one they've kind of eked out every win this season like by the hair of their chinny chin chin and that this is where it gets crazy the refs and i cannot speak to this Like I, I just got into football. Like I am.
The thing years away from criticizing the refs. I'm not going to say the entire Chiefs season was, like, a hoodwink scam.
Like, that's rude. Like, they literally were almost undefeated.
So I'm not saying that. But I'm saying, like, good job to the Eagles.
They played better and they won. They were the better team.
I said that yesterday and I was like, I've seen, oh my God, like the girls look so dumb

about the Eagles.

Like we were on your side and people be like, I can't believe they were rooting.

I wasn't even rooting for any team in particular.

Yeah.

I was like, are we watching the same episode of the toast?

I know.

I think just for them, it's like they were the better team, but it's like the other team

was barely a team.

So it's like, we didn't say enough good things about the Eagles.

I think that's how they felt.

I think honestly, it's giving chip. I think the eagles have a chip i think they would admit that it's giving chip like seriously leave me out of your drama go to therapy as those with a chip like i see your chip we see them at the meetings yeah where like we get chips for how long we've had a chip literally um i see your chip and you know

what it is kind of annoying to hear about maybe we'll stop we've been really good about our chip

do you agree i have yeah i feel like we actually haven't even talked about our chip in this new

studio yeah like if you're a new listener you don't even know what we were talking about

and let me just tell you briefly jack we just jackie and i just have like a chip on our shoulder

about like our whole career and who doesn't by the way no there are people who couldn't possibly

See you next time. out and let me just tell you briefly jackie and i just have like a chip on our shoulder about like our whole career and who doesn't by the way no there are people who couldn't possibly yeah no like we just feel like we work really hard we get so much hate and like we're so overlooked like we get so overlooked we are constantly being overlooked and we have a chip about it and it comes up sometimes sometimes it also is a chip um that comes in the shape of a kelly of kelly clarkson it's a kelly clarkson sized chip because she hasn't come on the toast oh yeah like and if we were any other people who are like top podcast so obsessed with kelly clarkson they'd be banging down our door to have her on like it's so weird it's so true now a chip okay chip the chip is so real what i will also say about the chip is that it propels us towards greatness.
Like we are constantly fighting against the chip and that is what makes us great. And I feel the same about the Eagles.
Like I think we actually have more in common. We're more similar than we are different.
And I think some of the people I admire most in this world have slash had chips. One thousand percent.
Nobody had a bigger chip on her shoulder than Joan Rivers. 1,000%.
Nobody was more overlooked. Nobody was more kind of sidelined by the industry.
You know who else I feel has a chip? And rightfully so because she does not even get half the credit she deserves for her talent. Who? I feel like you know what I'm going to say.
Come on. For her talent.
Yeah. And she's actually been on this show somewhat recently.
She's our queen're always saying how she's like Kiki Palmer definitely has a chip on her shoulder and she should because the industry and she gets a lot of opportunities but it's not enough for her level of talent like remember when Tiffany Haddish had this huge moment like she was in a movie and then like it literally spiraled her entire career off of this one where's that moment for kiki palmer it hasn't happened yet yeah even though like at every turn she is so worthy correct so her chip warranted ours when i think of people i'm gonna text you someone's name of like the anti-chip like someone no girl i know what you're gonna say before you even say it wait do you yeah and this is like and it's not shade to this person it's like we'll never know what it's like in this world yeah but i wasn't thinking for you were thinking okay text me because there are people who just like blow up whether it's yeah yeah yeah no whether it's like online and acting and singing and just like get like their career goes as it should yeah there's no roadblocks yeah there's no chips they're just like yeah you should host the vmas like it, it's kind of a chippy industry. Yeah.
But I don't want to go down the chip. If you're new here, we have a chip, and it informs what we do for good and for bad, but mostly for good.
And honestly, if you really want to get into the symbolism of the frames. They are two chips.
Representative, yeah physically on our shoulders we should tape a potato chip yep in the middle everyone wants them to be filled the frames there you go one hot blue gun like the banana i hate to cut this short the pre-fast five banner because you know it's the highlight of my day just cut me off yeah but we have a lot to do we have dear toasters we have the fast five and I just want to make you aware that we're approaching 20 minutes so okay so I guess I mean it's time and you've said it sister you know I don't want to start drama obviously I you don't I just want I just wanted you to know no I don't want to start drama I'm not looking for I'm not like a drama era of my life.'t want to start drama. I'm not looking for, I'm not in like a drama era of my life.

Yeah, that's good.

I'm like looking for peace.

I love that.

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Right? Yeah. Thank you, AG Turt.
You're welcome, Bert. Our first story, Jason Kelsey is having a tough time processing the Eagles win with Travis's loss after the Super Bowl blowout.
So Jason Kelsey has finally put out a statement. Not finally.
I mean, yeah, I wasn't waiting. I wasn't waiting.
But yeah, I do wonder how he feels about the win. And I guess if you were really paying attention, there was like a little bit of drama.
Yeah. Because their podcast page had put out like a Congrats Eagles thing.
Yeah, put out a Congrats Eagles graphic. And then they took it down.
I think people thought they took it down because it was like disrespectful to Travis. But then Jason clarified that he asked him to take it down because it was like, and I guess, yeah, it was a lot of pictures of him and different Eagles players.
And then there was a quote. Hey, look at me.
There was a quote about how like so many of the Eagles players feels like family to Jason. And then like, congrats, Eagles.
So it was very like Jason centric. And he was like, I didn't win the Super Bowl.
Like, it's a weird thing to post. I just just want to say I think it's weird too um not even because of the reasons Jason stated because your co-host lost the other half lost and it's not like Jason played he didn't so I think it's weird yeah they could have just sat it out but I also understand why Jason wanted them to take it down I don't think it had to do with congratulating the Eagles.
I think it was just like self-promotional.

No, I think his reasons are valid.

The reason I personally as a human being,

like my experience thinking it was weird is because like literally Travis is the co-host

and the star of the show and he lost the Super Bowl.

And the other star slash co-host didn't even play.

But the Eagles are a big part of their show.

No, I get it.

I get it.

And let me just say, Jason's like a bigger man than me,

obviously in a physical sense,

but also because it's really nice that he's so happy for the Eagles. But like, I would be annoyed like the year I leave, we finally win.
Well, that's the most annoying part. But this is what he said.
He said, congratulations to the Philadelphia Eagles, my former teammates and friends on being Super Bowl Licks champions. There were a lot of emotions last night.
And now that I've collected my thoughts, I'll attempt to share them in the longest tweet ever. The game was odd for me to watch if I'm being completely honest I knew it was going to be mixed emotions before during and after and I now know what my parents had to deal with two years ago on the one hand I wanted what is best for my brother and to see his success and on the other hand there are so many people teammates and coaches in the Philadelphia Eagles organization that I care deeply about many of whom I owe my success to throughout my career I'm very proud for Jalen Hurts, Nick Santini, and this entire team.
They have persevered greatly, answered their critics amazingly, and proved themselves undoubtedly to be the best team this season, etc., etc. As for my brother, there isn't a person I love or care about more.
It has been tough to process these feelings, but of course I feel for him, and I'm always rooting for him, but I know he does not need nor want my pity. he has amassed greatness few on this planet could ever dream of as has his team and they should feel pride in their accomplishments this season and in the past I know right now they're still thinking of that last night and the shortcomings in the last game but in that in time that will fade and the greatness they've exhibited as a group will remain as one of the most dominant eras of football ever so first of all it was giving the vibes like Travis is retiring.
No? Well, the field playing was giving the vibes that Travis was retiring. Well, of course, of course, the lack of talent.
Yes. The ball on the floor.
Can I say something like safe space? Yes, Turdy. Even though I'm so not in the mood for anybody to backlash me, but whatever.
She wanted peace. Right.
But I have to speak speak my truth and that's kind of the line that i'm constantly walking speaking your truth and walking in your own light peace so during the week leading up to the super bowl when there were all those press conferences and we were making fun of all the questions that he was being asked like a lot of the questions that were like normal questions were about his family what are they gonna wear what is your mom gonna do is she gonna wear like the eagle split jersey and Travis like you guys like no I'm the only one playing like I am my team my family's rooting for me and I thought the questions were like really extreme and weird and I was like kind of feeling justice for Travis but now and I understand like Kylie Kelsey is like so loyal to Philadelphia like she'll never wear another another color ever. Like I get it.
That's your fucking family out on the field. Like maybe I can't relate because I don't feel that way about any particular sports team.
But like I just want to say we're bordering on disrespectful. Like you can have respect for your team, Jason, and respect from your hometown.
But like your family is like out here trying to accomplish something great. And the fact that like, it's even a question, like people are doubting who they're rooting for.
Like, I don't know. I just, I know this is going to sound really crazy.
I feel like they could have been a little bit more supportive. Maybe that's what he was feeling.
And Donna, by the way, wore all red. And the question when he, when, when he was asked if his mom's going to wear the same split Jersey Eagles chiefs, he was like, like, why? That's crazy.
For Donna? That's what she didn't. But I just feel like there was like a lot of doubt in people's minds, especially for like Jason and Kylie and just like the family in general.
Like, what are they going to do? They love the Eagles. It's like they love the Eagles when Jason was playing there, but he's not.
I think it's really hard for us to understand. I think so, too.
Like, I think we can't put ourselves in those shoes. I think for Jason, it's like, yes, his brother's on one team rooting for him.
But on this other side are people that not, they're not his brothers, but like very, very close. Like there is joy in seeing them win.
Of course. I think if he could have chosen, he wouldn't say.
I don't think he would have answered this question of who, maybe he did. But it was, of you think I'm not getting that vibe yes I think did anybody ask Jason who's he rooting for I think if they did we wouldn't have gotten a straight answer yeah but I think like the the correct answer is Travis however like it's a very you know the Eagles are right behind because like the coaches, those are people who he wants to see.
Family. And like the amount of work that goes in to being on a team.
This was the only team he ever played for. Like this is his.
It's different than people who like bounce around. That part of like the brotherhood, we could never understand.
No, I just I'm trying to put myself in Travis's spot and like, I'm mad.

Yeah.

At my family.

Blame it on your family.

Yeah.

I didn't get enough support.

Yeah.

Yeah. And I, like, I understand that we'll never understand.

And I do, I get what he's saying.

But I just feel like the whole time, while we, before we knew who won, like, there's

just been this, like, underlying weirdness about, like, who they're going to root for.

When at the end of the day, like, yeah, we could talk about it.

We're obviously rooting for your family.

I don't feel like they led with that enough.

Yeah.

That's a hot take for the day.

I didn't see.

I didn't see that so much.

So I can't say.

But if that's what was going on, like, yes, of course, we're rooting for Travis.

Like, yeah, we'll find joy.

And if the Eagles win, because it'll be good for our friends.

But of course, we're rooting for Uncle Travi. And because it'll be good for our friends.
Of course.

We're rooting for Uncle Travi.

And I can't believe I haven't sang this yet.

I'm so glad.

I'm so glad my Travi made it to the big game.

One step closer to Kelsey being my last name.

Wait, I think I should record Toast theme song today because that was pretty parge dial up curtis the producer get him get him on the job because if you play like you and worthy you can call me mrs taylor purdy the only thing is that the theme song it's actually a little out of my range it was pretty high key high pitch excuse me so japan for a man who ain't worthy. So dirty.

During the Super Bowl, I was actually just humming that song.

And Ben was like, is that a real song?

And I was like, yeah.

And you played a prank, of course.

And did you play for him?

I played a prank.

No, I didn't even play for him.

I was just like, because I think he was really believing me,

because I kept coming up with new lyrics.

Right, right. And I stopped at the Purdy one, because that he would know it was a joke.

I was like, I'm so glad my Travi made it to the big game.

He was like, is that a real song?

I'm like,

Thank you. right right um and i stopped at the purdy one because that would that he would know it was a joke i was like i'm so glad my travy made it to the big game he was like is that a real song i'm like what do you mean yeah one step closer to kelsey being my last name he was like no way and then i kept coming up if you play like you ain't worthy he was like wow and so i let it sit for a couple of minutes and then i told him it was a joke you should have kept because i don't want him walking want him walking out into the world like an idiot, you know? I know, but you should have.
I can have my fun, but I can't take it to work. You should have just like teased the purdy line and like saw his reaction.
And you, like if you're going to tell him eventually, maybe he would figure it out. But let him think for one second.
That it was real. You can call me Mrs.
Telepurdy. You can call me Mrs.
Turdy Purdy. I literally need to record something today.

My voice like isn't.

Get on the horn.

I'm going to get on the horn.

I recorded.

I forgot to share on Friday after the toast.

It sounded cartilish.

I took Jackie's recording session because she was sick.

So I laid down my vocals first.

Which our producer said was probably better.

And I did the first take and he was like, well, we've got it. We'll just do a couple of more for safety.
But like you kind of crushed it, turd. That's what he said.
So and then we got a lot of that's beautiful. Pretty much.
So we now have a version of just my vocals. We're going to wait.
Obviously, we're going to overlay Jackie's, but I'll hold that version very near and dear to my heart. Are you ready for our next story? Speaking of Parchi vocals.
Yeah. Sabrina Carpenter is on the cover of Vogue.
This is amazing. Like this is to be on the cover of Vogue is actually such a crazy thing.
You know, when you have all the famous people in the world who haven't been on it, it's like a real special tier. It couldn't be happening at a better time for her.
She just snatched up a couple of Grammys. She looked absolutely gorgeous.
And I feel like Vogue is always trying to do something like edgy and whatever. But they really stuck with her aesthetic.
Very on brand, very Marilyn Monroe, feathery feminine. It was beautiful.
I was shocked. I wasn't expecting this.
I would have thought that Vogue thought they were like, it was too soon for Sabrina. You know, they're never on the cutting edge.
They're always a little late to the trends. Yeah.
I was so happy for her. Like, Queen.
Yeah. This is major.
So the cover and the cover story have dropped. The pictures are beautiful.
She's on the cover of the March issue of Vogue. And yeah, the photos are very Marilyn Monroe inspired.
She's talking about her career. She made mention of skin.
Just want to say. What did she say? She said that when she have a Google alert for skin by Sabrina Carpenter.
No, but our Gen Z intern gave me a little heads up. That's really big.
Promotion. She said that she never planned to release it.
It was a song that she wrote to get her feelings out as artists do. And then she did release it.
But when she was writing it, it was just meant for her to heal. I want to say something about the whole song.
And I agree with you. Skin is a good not, it didn't shake the world up, but it's a good song, lyrically, melodically.
But I do think the, and I don't have any regrets about how everything shook out for both of the girls. Like, they're really both killing it.
But I do wonder, like, how this whole saga would have shaken out if the song that Sabrina released in response to all the drama wasn't Skin, it was All Because I Like a Boy, which is another song of hers that directly addresses the drama, but it's much more popular than Skin. And it was one of the couple of songs from that previous album that launched her into the short and sweet era that people really liked.
It's a really good song and it's very directly addressing. I got death threats, death threats filling up semi trucks.
Tell me who I am because I don't have a choice. All because I liked a boy.
And all of this for what? When everything went down, we'd already broken up. Like so good.
So direct. And like, I, I think it might have...
I'm not mad about how anything she got. She just won Grammys.
Like, maybe she would have released that song and then gone nowhere. But I do wonder, like, I would love to see an alternate universe.
Like, what would have happened if she did that? And the song wasn't written yet, but... Yeah, I wonder how long after, till she got to that place of, like, writing that song and that's how she felt.
Because she couldn't, like, not that long so I don't I wonder how like if she wrote them at the same time yet then maybe we could if she had it in the arsenal and just chose skin yeah instead I wonder I I don't know but I liked skin because it wasn't like the tip I feel like all because I like the boys more like coming like from it serious no like like No, like a victim. Like everybody hates me all because of that.
Whereas skin was like kind of tough. And I liked that response.
Yeah. I was giving like, oh, you're jealous of me? You should be.
I'm sucking a dick. You should be.
I'm all out of your man. Yeah.
Like I just, I thought it was just like a strong response as opposed to, oh, because I like the boy, everybody hates me. That's actually a really good point.
I didn't realize. But maybe the world would have.
That's what you, by the way, like the reason why you love skin is because like the message was very like not victim-y and not like steamrolled. Just like, yeah, I stole your man.
What are you going to do about it? And I'm loving every minute. Like that.
And now knowing from that other song when everything went down, we'd already broken up. So she wasn't even with this guy.
So she didn't even like feel the need to defend him. She still wanted to lead with like yeah, jealous.
Yeah. So but I just I agree with you that maybe the world would have received it better if she came out with like Yes.
People love a victim. They love a victim.
So yeah. Actually I like I think that it probably would have played better.
But for me. But everything worked out in the way that it was meant to.
But for a while, Sabrina took like a big L. I respect strength.
And that's why I respect the Breen. But until Espresso, like Sabrina had been like, she had taken like a big L on the situation.
Yes, nonsense. But up until that, there was like a long period of time where Olivia then went on to like- Yeah.
Worldwide success. And Sabrina was left in the dust.
Doing like small shows and she was able to really climb her way out of that, which makes her whole journey even more impressive. And I think that's why we love her so much.
We love A Phoenix Who Rises From the Ashes. But for a brief period in time when we didn't know it was going to go that way, it was kind of sad yeah i agree that's why it's so impressive and i'm sorry like i will never stop talking about these two everyone's it's annoying if you bring up olivia every time you talk about sabrina i'm sorry i can't although i do want to say i think this like massive success has healed sabrina because we always say like if that was me i'm never forgiving sabrina doesn bring it up.
She doesn't talk about it. And they were seen like hugging at the Grammys.
I actually think like getting all this success and recognition made the whole situation like kind of worth it. Yes.
Worth it. I don't think she's over it.
I don't, I think she'll like, that's her Roman empire. And it's not, it's been a few years.
Like it's her chip her chip. Yeah, 100%.
And she'll hug her at the Grammys because she doesn't want to. That would look bad.
People don't like that. But the North remembers.
It's so true. I'm still here.
I'm still at the restaurant. Like dust collecting on her pinned up hair.
I would, her hair is always pinned up.

Right, that's about her.

You know how they always say like,

you know, if you could be,

like I would love to have been a fly on the wall

in the Szilagyi elevator, right?

I would love to have an off the record,

like truly open and honest conversation.

I would never tell anybody what she said,

just like for my own personal curiosity

with Sabrina Carpenter about that whole saga.

Okay, but if you could have one open and honest conversation with any celebrity. Oh, yeah.
Oh no. And that's not even like top five.
Actually it might be top five. Yeah.
But who's number one? But I don't know. Do I only get to cover one subject or like their entire career? Like Taylor.
Yeah. Yeah.
Okay. I don't even know what I would want to ask Taylor.
I would definitely want to ask her about like the Karlie Kloss of it all.

I would definitely want to ask her.

She actually has like a lot of mysterious corners of her life.

Yeah.

Because she's not like the type of celebrity who shares.

Well, all the friendships too.

Haley.

Yep.

Kaylee.

Haley.

I want to know what happened with Haley.

Haley.

Also Zendaya.

Like we all forget because Zendaya went on to do like massive things.

But she was a member of that girl squad for a brief moment.

Yeah.

Kelly.

We were just saying.

Kelly.

Teller.

Kelly Teller.

Yes.

Yes.

Are you ready for our next story?

What number?

Oh, yeah.

Sorry.

Number three.

Pete Davidson strips down to his undies for reformation after his tattoo removal so pete davidson in in bigger news turny osher like finally understands why people find him attractive like i for the first for the first time i'm like oh that's a good looking man yeah but i feel like now he looks different than when people were finding him attractive watch now he can't get any girls he looks like he's put on a little bit of weight too. Yeah.
In a good way. He's looking hunky.
Pete Davidson has spent the last several years removing his nearly 200 tattoos. And now he's ready to show off his clean slate just in time for Valentine's Day.
He stars in Reformation's latest campaign, showing off his buff bod in boxer briefs. So I guess Reformation has some menswear now.
And he is is the face i find like i think the fact that he did like a topless photo shoot to show us his progress and all the change that he's made i think it's really smart i don't know why i'm so shocked that it's reformation not only did i not know they did menswear but like i don't i thought it would have been calvin klein like for something of pete's caliber yeah i didn't Reformation had money like that. Honestly, I didn't either, but I guess everyone wears.
And I mean, if you think about it, I feel like they operate. It's been around forever.
They look like a small business, but everybody, they're like mass consumed. It's actually, I probably have like low overhead because they act small.
Yeah, no. And you know, all of their dresses are made from like, you know, dirty diapers and like plastic bottles.
Taylor wearing the dress to the U.S. Open was the budget for Pete Davidson.
True, true. I don't know.
Like if I was Pete, I just would have wanted a little more for my comeback photo shoot. Not that there's anything wrong with Reformation, but it's not like designer.
I think Calvin Klein would have been. And I think he's done Calvin Klein before.
Or Skims. Or Skims.
You know, I was watching Kardashians and Kim was saying, saying talking about her work ethic how she works so much she was actually because she's in therapy now and so she's like thinking about working less and questioning why she works so much and she says courtney was right like i didn't need to sort of figure out what was driving me yeah like what why i'm working so much like what drives me whatever and she was like but in the past like all i want to do is work anybody who tries to tell me to like work less like get out of my way and she was like I mean that's what happened with and they bleeped out the name I'm pretty sure it was Pete I'm pretty sure because she was like that's what happened with blank he said like why don't you take the week off like why do you work so much she said and that was the beginning of the end oh she's so crazy for that honestly like that's nuts and like she does do too much my guess like it just it only really for Pete like I don't think that's why she broke up with Kanye did it also sound like one syllable like you could tell based how long the bleep was yes it did sound like it's okay yeah or it was like a nobody like Dave you know someone we don't know Dave it's always maybe it was Dave, I think Pete Davidson looks great. I think this is such a good message for young people.
He was on one of the late shows talking about the process to remove them. He's had over 200 tattoos.
Like how he obviously regrets them. And I think people should, when they go to the tattoo salon, should have to watch that interview.
Just think about it twice. There's nothing wrong with tattoos.
But it's a huge commitment yeah I think a lot of people get them done on a whim they regret them um I'm kidding he didn't choose he didn't keep any not even Kim is my lawyer not the kids names that was really weird right that was really crazy and I think most people have not I actually I don't know most a lot of people have a lot of tattoos no regrets love them all they all deeply mean something but it's a hard thing to regret like there's it's very hard to come back from it's very expensive it's very painful and so I I think thinking twice or three times about it is just a good message and if you still want to do it still do it exactly like the first time you have an inkling for a tattoo make note of it don't run to the store just jot it down and then if you keep thinking about it two three four times then you know that you really want it but if you never think about it again thank god you didn't get it yeah yeah in the words of kim kardashian would you put a bumper sticker on a bentley is that her quote i don't know if she coined it but she popularized it in that scene from like, oh from like OG keeping up. Got it.
Oh, no, I'm sorry. She said it on Letterman.
I think he was asking them if they have tattoos. Do any of them have tattoos? They're not like a tattoo family.
Except maybe they get like those little ones on their fingers that like celebrities love. Yeah? Yeah, for sure.
She has like on her fingers. I can so see.
Who? Chloe has. I was going to say, Chloe feels like she might have.
But remember she got Lamar's initials on her finger. I also feel like I could see her having like a cross on her ankle.
Yeah, or on like a wrist, a little wrist action. Yeah.
But I could also see her having some from back in the day. For sure, for sure.
Yeah. People forget like Chloe went to prison for a couple of hours.
Like, she's a real one, okay? Are you ready for our next story? Yeah. Do you think Chloe actually did go to prison that day? Or, like, for the cameras? Because they said she got let out the same day because of overcrowding.
Yeah. I think that that's what happened.
I don't think they did. Like, you think she was in the facility? Yeah.
That's really crazy. Yeah.
But I think the way it went down is what happened. because I don't think they like.
You think she was in the facility? Yeah. That's really crazy.

Yeah.

But I think the way it went down is what happened.

So I don't think they would just like lie about how it works.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And like back in the day, those episodes like that, they were just following them around

with cameras that like wasn't so produced.

Highly produced.

That's true.

Our fourth story.

Speaking of reality TV coming to podcasting,na and Harry Hamlin are starting a podcast called Let's Not Talk About the Husband. It will be with Dear Media and the first episode premieres on February 14th, Valentine's Day.
Parji. Let me just say, you know, I'm like kind of like a Lisa Rinna hater, even though I'm kind of reformed.
I hated her character on the show, but I understand that she was a necessary sort of evil. And I do feel like she has all this momentum and fame and public interest that got kind of stifled from leaving the show because we never got another outlet for it, right? And so I think there's actually, I think this is a fabulous idea.
Even though I don't know if I'm the target demo for it. People also just love her husband.
It's really so crazy. I forget what I was watching.
Oh, when we were watching Desperate Housewives, I was explaining to Ben, like, how none of these people were really famous before the show. The show made them all famous.
Except Nicolette Sheridan was very much, like, Hollywood royalty. She was married to Harry Hamlin.
And it just reminded me that, like, he's literally so Hollywood. And he's also, like, an older gentleman.
So he's, like, a little old Hollywood, too, you know? Yeah. Also, they've been together for 30 plus years.
Like that is something that gives you a level of expertise that and wisdom that you can share with the world. I also was thinking recently about podcasting at a glance as you do.
When you have a chip. When you have a chip.
No, because I'm always like watching clips on Instagram. I get like served podcasts I never heard of like this that and like I'm I was like trying to think like so many people start a podcast but like what makes really a good podcast host and like I think one thing that really makes can make someone great amongst other things but it's like someone who says like hard truths who said who has like genuine hot takes who like yeah who's like yelling at people almost Telling you things you might not want to hear.
And like, I think Lisa Rinna like has that energy of just being unapologetic and just saying things that might not be popular, but are interesting to listen to. Cause like the people with like the lukewarm, just like circling the drain, like it's hard to stand out that way.
But I think like. No, that's not why podcasts were created, right?

They're like this sort of renegade medium,

like outside of mainstream.

So that's why so many of the most popular podcasts

are people with like crazy hot takes like Joe Rogan

or like, you know, Tucker Carlson's podcast is huge.

When you're kind of like a fringe,

that's what the medium was created for.

So if you're like out here just being like,

hot dogs aren't sandwiches.

Like that's not why people go to podcasts.

Do you know what I mean? Like it's very much a medium for lightning rods there's ways to

have success in other ways but that is a big vertical and I think that she is that and so I

think that this could really work same although I do wonder if it's going to be a guest-based show

because while I think that she could pull great guests she knows a lot of people him too

that's where podcasting becomes weird when like a really talented person a really interesting

Thank you. wonder if it's going to be a guest-based show.
Because while I think that she could pull great guests, she knows a lot of people, him too. That's where podcasting becomes weird when like a really talented person, a really interesting person is a host and then is forced to interview other people and more so listen than talk.
And I actually don't think Lisa Rinna would be a good interviewer. That's my only concern.
But if it's just them two going back and forth, talking about like different relationship things, parenting, celebrity, working in the industry, like that's interesting for sure. Yeah.
So this is what the statement says. After 30 plus years together, some more fabulous than others.
We've seen a lot and we're ready to dish on everything from marriage and family to friendships, business and fame. So it seems like they will be dishing.
Whatever we're talking about, you can be sure it will be unfiltered. So tune in because we're owning it all.
They should also also have their girls on their girls are wildly interesting and also are always making waves yeah especially that amelia she's like in some drama with the gabriette of it all do you know no that they're twins well so that's the thing gabriette who's maddie healy's fiancee who's like this very um creative like different you know um amelia a couple of years ago like started to shift her look from like what we knew very normal looking all-american commercial vibes to very high fashion

slicked back bleached eyebrows gap tooth um and she started to really look like no but gabriette

has a gap like that's the vibe i'm saying like unconventional beauty oh well okay okay but she

didn't like make it no she didn't drill a gap in her teeth, my bad. And a lot of people started to pick up on the similarities in the look she ended up creating with Gabriette and then a lot of like their mannerisms.
So it's like kind of an ongoing internet theory is the Gabriette versus Amelia of it all. So like take it to the podcast, Amelia.
Let's hear about it. Take it to the podcast.
It's always funny when you find someone's like inspo you know yes like kendall jenner and jacy marie no it's kind of like the chicken and the egg who came first page lorenz or the other girl totally or megan and the marchioness meg no and the the bank the no she's not a marchioness what is she her husband is a a marquis a marquis but she you know the marchioness or something yeah a bath yeah a Martianess. What is she? Her husband is a Marquis.
A Marquis. A Marquis.
But she, you know, the Martianess of Bank or something. Of Bath.
Yeah. Of Bath.
Yeah, Bank. Yeah.
Who came first? The Martianess or Megan? Who came first? Paige or Morgz? Who came first? JC or Kendall? Who came first? Gabriette or Amelia? That one's pretty well documented. Right.
And it's Gabriette. For most of them, it's a question, I don't think.
Yeah, and I think for the tennis girls,

it was all happening at the same time.

So we were like, wait, who came first?

But if you go back, I think it's Paige.

Someone knows.

Yeah, it's well documented.

Yeah, just gotta find out.

And this is, it's like,

all of these is someone's Roman Empire.

Like, you know, people are obsessed

with these random, like, dual lives.

Yeah, so funny.

For me, like, I don't particularly care.

It's more so like,

Thank you. like obsessed with these like random like dual lives yeah so for me like I don't particularly care it's more so like you know this is not this is not my Roman Empire so I'm just I'm just I'm having fun I'm along for the ride yeah so good luck to um our dear media sisters and brothers oh yes yes and Harry I I think that's really I think it's fabulous honestly I usually like roll my eyes a little bit when people like enter the podcasting space who do other things.
But maybe it's because I liked the title a lot. Yeah.
But I actually think this is great. Yeah.
No, I think that they've got the stuff. I think they've got the stuff.
It's a very particular type of stuff. just because you're like super famous, everybody loves you, doesn't mean you're going to be a good podcaster.
Who had more eyes on her than Meghan Markle? Right. Was not made for podcasting.
It's such a weird niche thing. And even the most popular podcasters are like freaks, randoms you've never heard of.
Right. And they're not the biggest.
And even the popular celebrity ones, there are, it's not the most popular celebrities. Like even the office ladies, like they're not the most popular celebrities.
Kim had a podcast. Nobody moved.
Right. A lot of the most famous people in America like star podcasts and seriously the culture remains unchanged.
Yeah. Makes you think.
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What can I say?

Our fifth and final story is a little TV programming news

because The Bachelorette has been paused for summer 2025.

Yeah, ABC will be skipping this cycle of The Bachelorette. ABC is pausing its female-ed spinoff of The Bachelor, which will be a blow for fans of the long-running dating show series.
The show generally starts production shortly and the last three seasons have aired in July. The series, however, has not been canceled and will likely come back to Disney's own network in the future.
It's unlikely to air this year, but insiders have not completely rolled out its return later this year. It's not entirely clear why this decision has been made, but it's not without precedent in the Bachelor universe.
Last year, for example, Bachelor in Paradise didn't air because Golden Bachelorette happened instead. But I don't know.
Skipping the Bachelorette seems bigger than skipping a paradise. It does.
But also when you think about all the different brands amongst the Bachelor franchise, you have the main Bachelor, the Bachelorette, Bachelor in Paradise, and the Golden Bachelorette now. And then Golden Bachelorette.
Right. Bachelor and Bachelorette.
I do feel like the female-led ones are probably the lowest rated because it's more fun to have all the girls fighting over a guy. Like, girls bring the drama.
Girls make it more interesting. 25 girls and one guy.
Like, that I'd probably rather watch, get to know all these, like, funny, crazy, quirky girls than 25 guys and one girl. Like, that's boring.
Like, trying to be on TV. Yeah, it's like, get a job.
So I could see, like, the golden Bachelorette or the bachelorette being the first to go.

I don't, I know they're trying to make it seem like this is all good.

I don't think this is a good sign for a franchise that in my mind has been, you know, dying for years.

Yeah.

But to what end?

Yeah.

It's still decently rated.

You can't just have The Bachelor.

No, but I think people really like Bachelor in Paradise.

I think it's still decently rated compared to like other cable shows.

But we compare it to like what it once was.

I'm sorry. No, but I think people really like Bachelor in Paradise.
I think it's still decently rated compared to like other cable shows. But we compare it to like what it once was.
So I don't know if it's like a huge flop or a failure. I don't think it loses money for the network.
But they really need to just shake it up. It's like the same format, the same dates, the same thing like all the time.
When dating shows – are you hearing about Montoya? Claudia, I keep seeing this everywhere. What is it? Okay.
What show is it from? It's actually, it's a Spanish show. So I don't know even the name of the show.
That's what I thought. But then I saw a bunch of like barstool people talking about it.
So I'm like, is this barstool, you know, their reality show? Yeah, they have like reality shows. Oh my God.
I was like, what is this? It's okay. It's a, it's Temptation Island, which is a US show, but it's Temptation Island, Spain.ain okay and so a couple of clips from the show it's just like a reality show where they put a bunch of singles you know and actually i think they're couples and it's temptation island because you like you you watch your partner go into a house and watch them on a tv to see if they're gonna cheat on you very casa amor vibes okay um and there's this couple the guy's name is montoya and his girlfriend is like majorly stepping out and he's forced to watch it.
Like literally watching her have sex. And like two separate, she had sex with two different people.
And he's like on this, you know, they sit on like a wooden log in the middle of the woods, forced to watch on a TV. And he's having a fucking breakdown.
Like he can't, it's a very normal reaction actually for somebody somebody you love the clips went so viral um and whatever that's irrelevant but what i'm saying is like when you think about the landscape of dating shows right now like netflix crushes it they had like too hot to handle love is blind um love island love island everybody's sort of stepping their pussies up based off of a concept that the bachelor created and they never evolved like it's the same three hour telecast with the same dates the same concept the same everything the biggest thing they ever did was when they did bachelor in paradise and even that compared to like love island it's stale it's old it's it's boring yeah but i do think bachelor in paradise like it's a pretty good answer to love island it's not good enough sometimes but it's hard you can't really have Bachelor in Paradise, like, is a pretty good answer to Love Island. It's not good enough sometimes.
But it's hard. You can't really have Bachelor in Paradise without the Bachelor and Bachelorette.
Because, like, you fall in love with these cast members. You want them to have a second chance at love.
But that is like having to watch 50 hours of television so that you'll be excited for Bachelor in Paradise. I don't think so.
They make it too hard. Their focus on The Bachelor is selling as many commercials as they can.
So if you're going to commit to watching an episode, you have to watch three hours. Plus, after the rose, women tell all.
Like, they're really exploiting people's time. That's why I personally stopped watching it.
I was like, how many hours do I have to watch just to see who wins? Like, it's not fun anymore. For a mid-season, episode five, for it to be two hours, like, stop.
You know? Agreed. If you want a two-hour premiere, a two-hour finale, I'll let you have it.
Sell your ads. Agreed.
episode five you know agree you want a two-hour premiere a two-hour finale i'll let you have it sell your agreed episode five and you know a march yeah it's just they really can't compete like netflix they like love is blind first of all no commercials and it's so good like even when it's bad i have a question shows like that are on netflix that are going straight to netflix why do they still do commercial breaks like they fade to black they fade to black and then they come back and they play what we just saw I think it's like that's actually a good point I just think it's like a helpful way of like making television I don't know I think it's like I think it's so weird it's like it is what is this and and especially when they repeat the last line of what we just saw it's like wait I'm right here 10 seconds ago I didn't move that's actually really true i don't know when i was watching kardashians that's what i was like this is made for hulu why are you putting in blocks for commercial breaks i'm still sitting in the exact same spot i was when i heard i didn't move and i remember what she said five seconds ago right they do do that maybe it's like just like this trend in editing they can't stop that's taking a while to shake no one told them like we can stop they don't have to do it yeah they do do that I don't know. It's taking a while to shake.
No one told them like we can stop doing that. They don't have to do it.

Yeah,

they do do that.

I don't know.

That's a good point.

So I feel like they can tell us

all they want

that this is not

like a sign.

A sign of the times

but I think it is.

Yeah,

I think so too.

They just don't want

to scare people.

So those are the

fast five stories.

I hope you're scared.

Wait, why would I be scared? Because you said they don't want to scare people. But people should be scared.
Oh, I'm quaking. I'm shaking in my boots.
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Are you ready? Actually, I'm going to give you a little bit of a choice today because I had four submissions that I really, really liked. Okay.
But I'll do my favorite first. Ready? Dear Jackie and Claudia, I've got this amazing boyfriend.
He's literally perfect, except for one tiny detail. He's blind.
Now, here's the twist, because he can't see. He'll sometimes ask me how much I weigh, and it sends my insecurity levels through the roof.
Like, how am I supposed to respond to that? On one hand, I want to be honest, because, well, honesty is the best policy. But on the other hand, I'm terrified of him judging of him judging me even though he can't see me do I lie and keep the peace or just tell him no and dodge the question altogether it's also confusing when your boyfriend can't see you but somehow still manages to see right through you am I an awful person for even asking this love ya bye oh that's so tough I feel like he might have legitimate reasons for asking.
It's like he can't see you.

So he just like wants to know.

He doesn't want to pick you up if it hurt his back or something.

But it's actually like he can feel you and he could pick you up.

Like he actually knows what he needs to know.

But I don't know.

Like maybe he needs this as an aide just to like understand what his girl looks like.

I feel like anything else.

Like yeah, you could shave a few pounds off.

No, here's the thing.

Like, I want to help this blind man.

Like, I think it's important

that we all...

You want to help him see.

I just want to help him

whatever he needs.

Like, I'm watching the season

where Carlos is blind

on Desperate Housewives right now.

And like, the way the community

really just gets, you know,

they get him a job

and they're always helping him out.

Like, it's beautiful.

Like, it's being blind,

I can't even imagine.

It seriously sounds like

the hardest thing on the planet.

So I want to help this man.

But I just feel like

he actually doesn't need to know that.

Like you can really, based on feel, touch, you can know what your partner looks like. Like literally, why does it matter? I don't know.
Carlos would never. Like because Gabby was saying when Carlos is blind, it's also when they're poor and then they have kids.
And Gabby, like, you know, she's not her glam self anymore. She puts on weight.
She, like, is just kind of – she looks like a mom, you know? Not like that that's bad. But, you know, she's not like a glamazon model anymore.
And she says, like, Carlos, like, I'm embarrassed. Like, even though you can't see me, like, I don't love the way that I look anymore.
I put on weight. And, like, Carlos would never ask this question.
You know what I mean? He loved Gabby so unconditionally. So I just want to – not to make the blind man the villain here, but I think it's a weird question.
Well, I would just ask him like why he wants to know because I'm holding space for like, it's something that blind people need to know, like in order to orient themselves. I don't know.
I'm giving him like the benefit of the doubt. So I would just ask him like, what purpose does it serve for you to know? Like I will tell you, but I just would love to understand why that's information that you want.
I just think based on my limited knowledge of the blind community, which is limited, I feel like they really learn things by touch, not by numbers. Like I just, I think he might have ulterior motives for asking the question.
Maybe, but remember he's a perfect angel otherwise, so we're going to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Yeah, we are.

We are.

I was just asked. And of course, if you do end up telling him, like, it's.

Minus 15.

Yeah, I was going to say, you have at least, like, a 10-pound grace period.

10 to 15 max, okay?

Max, yeah.

Because you also, like, it's just like when you are on a plane,

like, they do need to know for safety purposes.

Like, you can't really lie.

Yeah.

I don't know.

I don't think he needs to know for safety purposes, but okay. I lie yeah i don't know i don't think he

needs to know for safety purposes but okay i don't know like i don't know because i'm just gonna yeah i don't know because he's blind so i don't want to give him like bad information did you hear me i'm blind i don't want to give what's that from it's will ferrell no is it anchorman did you hear me I'm blind

me and Ben say that all the time

I have no idea that's so It's Will Ferrell. No, is it? Is it Anchorman? Did you hear me?

I'm blind.

I know.

What is that? We have Ben say that all the time.

I have no idea.

That's so funny.

Oh my God, I forgot about that.

What's it from?

Row One.

Row One.

What is that?

I've never even seen that movie.

Star Wars.

No, it's not from Star Wars.

It's Will Ferrell.

Maybe I'm, he's like, he's standing in the ocean saying it. It's Anchorman 2.
He's like,

he's standing in the ocean saying it.

It's Anchorman 2.

Anchorman 2, yeah.

He loses his vision

and then he makes it everyone's problem.

He's like standing in the ocean.

Did you hear me?

I'm blind.

Like, I'm not really lying to her fucking

with like the P-John blind guy, you know?

I know, I know, I know.

And this is my dear toaster's toxic trait where like I want to see like i i want to see like the partner especially the man in the relationship like is always being the villain or gay um so yeah like i'm projecting here yeah like i just feel like he might need to know it's like you wouldn't tell him something is 50 feet away if it's 20 feet away right like the person like we're at a cliff like important information right so like right give him the benefit of the doubt all right next up we've got a little weird you know mother behavior hey jackson turdy a text from my boyfriend of one year's mom she's typed that really weird so she has a boyfriend of one year and a text popped up on his phone from his mom and he was sleeping. So she opened it and began scrolling through the messages, which is really crazy.
And she found texts. Looking for trouble.
I find texts from her to him talking very intimately about our sex life. Things like me coming, how enjoyable it is for a man to see a woman climax, me being less experienced than him, and so much more.
I am so upset and I haven't said anything to him about it yet. I feel so uncomfortable.
I fear the next time I see her, I'm not the, I'm not one who talks openly about sex or very freely, but maybe with friends, definitely not with my mom. The whole thing has really given me such a pit.
So there's like a lot of layers here. Like obviously it's the betrayal of like something intimate between you two but also like we need to talk about like the mental illness that is like talking about climaxing with your mother like I know and first of all it's different when it's a son and his mom but I think even like girls who tell their mom like things about sex is less weird but they don't even go into this much detail like this is really um fucking like serial killer ass behavior I I don't know what I would be like I feel you like what are you more angry about the betrayal or are we concerned like I'm concerned actually that's bothering me more this is like so weird and these like this is this relationship will be a part of your life for so long.
I wonder what she does for work, though, because I could see a scenario. The mom.
Like I could see a scenario where she is either like a sex therapist, some sort of therapist, maybe even like a gynecologist, something. I do feel like the toaster would have included that.
But I could see a mom like that being very involved in her son's sex life. And yeah, it's like not ideal, but it's like, that's just how we are.
And like, you don't have to break up with him over it. It's just like a crazy fact about your in-laws.
You're macha tanam sister. Okay.
So it's literally the episode of Sex and the City where Carrie's dating that writer who prematurely ejaculates. I think he's played by Justin Theroux and he comes with like this really like big family of intellects.
the dad is a professor at yale or no columbia and the mom is this um i think she's like a sex therapist type of thing so she knows about the son's premature ejaculation and she like wants to talk about it with carrie and carrie's like no it's less weird because she is this like very like you know but i do think the toaster would have written in if there was even a remote pertinence to this woman's line of work like let's just say she works in sales okay okay i okay? Okay, I don't know. Maybe she has like a side hustle of like women's health.
I think if you can look at it from that angle where it's like she's interested. It's weird.
In the vagina. And you're like in a woo-woo family.
Listen, Claudia, if she loves him and she wants to make it work, like some things you just have to accept. Well also the problem is is like when you go snooping how to get this stuff brought up like how can you bring it up to him yeah because it's not like he's coming to you and being like my mom says you should try this like how would you know this it's illegally obtained information it's not admissible it's inadmissible that's tough but also i'm glad you snooped usually like snooping you're gonna find information you don't want and while like you didn't want to know this this really isn't something that can go on forever it's really fucking weird and honestly this is something that would just like give me the ick to a person like I don't care how p-jom your boyfriend is like you're talking about orgasming with your mom like ew you're ugly to me now you know what I mean I do know what you mean but I just I want to help her I know i just want to how are we helping i want to help her think like it's not a big deal like he's just from just an open family that's really sweet but it is a big deal so let's give her some actual advice you have to bring it up to him and just say i don't know if you can just admit to snooping no but like you could say like the other night a text popped up on your phone like how you I don't know yeah you'll have to come up with a creative way to bring it up that doesn't make you look crazy because you have to protect your your own interests here but he should absolutely know that you're just not comfortable like you should don't like judge and shame him for talking about this with his mom that's like a problem for another time but he does need to actively stop doing that like today yeah so i would say listen i'm not comfortable with that like talk to your friends like literally talk to a therapist talk to anyone please don't talk to your mother really he should you'd rather him talk to his friends about the no no not friends people that you have to like go out with and i want to know like why do you need to talk about your sex life with anyone other than the person you're having sex with i don't like why do you need to keep people abreast as to what's going on in your bedroom when you just have a girlfriend like yeah it's not like you're you know seeing a bunch of people i think what's going on i think there's more history here that you should find a way for him to open up to you yeah i think there's more to this story maybe it has to do with him and the past relationships Yeah, or trauma.
Yeah, I think there's, or what his mom likes to get into in her free time.

I think there's more to this story. Maybe it has to do with him and past relationships.
Yeah, or trauma. Yeah, I think there, or what his mom likes to get into in her free time.
I think there's more here. So find a way to dig in without it being about the snooping.
Oh, that's actually very good advice. Maybe just sit down and have a state of the union about your relationship and then take it into your sex life.
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Oh, that was so sweet. I wasn't expecting to get choked up at Dear Toasters.
I'm ready to settle a debate with my husband. We've been married for four years, and he has a really disgusting habit.
I've convinced him to stop as far as I know, since it gave me a serious ick, not to mention it was really unsanitary. My husband likes to pee in the bathroom sink, the same sink where we brush our teeth, at least I do, and where I wash my face.
The toilet is no more than three or four steps away from the sink. We do not have his or her sinks.
It's just one singular bathroom sink and he insists that all men do it out of convenience. Quote, I told him there's no way that all men do this and that I was gonna have to write into your toasters to settle this once and for all is this normal have you witnessed your husbands do this absolutely not I've never seen this I've never heard of this I have I have but but it's extenuating circumstances like if me and Ben back in our old apartment when we had one bathroom I mean we both like really had to had to pee.
Of course I get to go first. Ben, like maybe once or twice peed in the sink.
He's going to kill me for saying that. But that's not what this is.
No, no. To do it, to opt for the sink instead of the toilet.
No, all men don't do that. It's an emergency thing.
I think it's not completely unheard of, I have to tell you. Like men definitely definitely do this but I don't think they use the sink as a toilet like all the time I think it's very reasonable to ask and insist that he uses the toilet instead of the sink where you wash your face and brush your teeth and if he can't agree to that you're not even asking for anything other than for him to move over three inches then you put a lock on the door that only you have the key to.
And he can go do that in a different sink. In a public bathroom.
Hopefully not the kitchen. Yeah, no, by the way, you're 100% right in asking him.
But like, I don't want to indulge him at all, but he isn't wrong. Like, I do think people do this.
Because I think in the mind of like a really sort of like a small brain man it's like it's all going to the same place yeah i'm not worried about where it's going i'm worried about what's touching on its way of course i wouldn't wash my face in the toilet bowl facts facts although like when i was um like testing my urine a lot for like ovulation or like pregnancy tests and you would like put it in a cup. What do you do with the pee? Pour it back in the toilet.
Yeah, I guess that's like a much smarter way. I was pouring it down the sink.
Pour it back in the toilet. Yeah, that's yucky.
Yeah, yeah. When there's a toilet right there.
I also want to share something that I did. Like I need to unburden myself.

Okay.

There were a couple of times where like I woke up first,

and it has to be your first pee in the morning, right?

So where I woke up first thing in the morning

and I didn't have a cup.

Usually I would like leave a red Solo cup

and I would like rinse it and wash it

and use it every day,

which is like probably gross.

But either like the cup got thrown out

or it wasn't there.

And I was like literally about to pee and I couldn't get up off the toilet. I needed something to pee in.
So I used, you know, the really big hairspray. It's like the red one, big sexy hair.
Yeah, the lid. The big black top lid.
I used the lid as a cup. Parching.
I needed to unburden myself. And by the way, I rinsed it and then put it back on my hairspray.
I did. I did.
That's crazy because who even has the lid on their hairspray to begin with? Me? Oh. Like who doesn't lose it along the way? Oh, that's not a problem I have.
And what are the cause to lose it to? Yeah. No, I'm not.
And I'm pretty sure it's the same bottle of hairspray I'm still actively using. So.
Parchee. Parchi, women in STEM.

I needed to unburden myself.

So maybe that's why I'm a little bit more sympathetic

and understanding

to this man.

But I just,

I want to say like,

I back the toaster here.

Like,

he should not be doing this.

I back the toaster.

And if this is something

that men do,

just because

they all do it,

if everyone jumped off a bridge,

we'd get to it.

Like,

then all men should stop.

Right, right.

No, you're not wrong.

And we wonder why women

have all these skin issues.

Let's go. like then all men should stop right right no you're not wrong and we wonder why women have all these skin issues literally we're washing our faces with garen meanwhile the men get to be like i don't wash my face and i feel great and it's like it's because like everything in your life is clean you don't have pee in the pores so true you're not because you're not washing your face in the toilet right that's your toaster thank you to everyone who wrote in um to the girl who had that crazy story about her man taking new photos of her and her friends and putting in the group chat we haven't heard from you Tuesday every day sorry we haven't heard from you I'm just one no pressure like if you don't never want to write in again like you don't have to I'm sorry that you went through that we would love to hear from you obviously I just want to let you know like I think of you often and i'm wishing you well as am i now let's get the heart right for her okay we're sending okay we're sending you love thank you so much for listening to the toast the millennia morning show where you tell the past five stories you need to have remind the friday new tubes to watch us on youtube please feel free to some jackie you're going like this like you're like you need to you need to be straight even though every time i watch youtube so you're watching us on youtube you're never literally never yeah i'm literally perfect too thank you i forgot where i was watching this on youtube

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