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Good morning, millennials. Welcome back to the shows's and happy Wednesday.
It is hump day.

Don't forget to hump someone you love.

I couldn't forget because Broody decided to join us in studio today for hump day.

And I don't think it's a coincidence.

It's definitely not.

I heard he had a boner and it was for me.

So classic coincidence is God's way of letting us know he exists.

I love that.

I never heard that.

You've never heard that?

Like coincidence is just a wink from God.

I'm going to quote one of my favorite quotes about God, which is, blacking out is God's way of saying, forget about it. Or one of my favorite quotes about God, man plans, God laughs.
God laughs. Or one of my favorite things about God.
What if God was one of us? Just a slob like one of us. Let me tell you I've had a morning.
Claudia I've had a morning as well. But you go first.
Well I've been talking. I talked about this a couple of months ago.
And it finally came to fruition. My episode of Jay Shetty came out today.
I saw. I'm not watching.
Don't worry. okay like so many people in my life texting me so I didn't really like I know that his podcast is really big I didn't realize how many people in my own life like tune into it and like who like people who don't even really understand what I do for a living they're like yeah I know Jay Shetty I'm like you do um and it came out this morning and it's just like one of those things I didn't realize you know like one time when I was like it was like I think 2017 I went on Squawk Alley like the CNBC show at the Stock Exchange because Snapchat went public and they were looking for like a young hot influencer to talk about it enter turdy and when I got off my phone was blowing up with like people from all walks of my life being like oh my god I just saw you and I'm like you guys watch Squawk Alley like I was This is reminding me of that.
Jackie, I'm like afraid of who this episode is going to reach because it's such a big podcast. I knew that, but like, I didn't really know it.
And

just like seeing all these people like from high school text me, like kill me, seriously, kill me.

Cause I really was so, it's probably the most like vulnerable I've ever been on a podcast,

but also it's the only podcast I've really ever sat down and talked about, like not pop culture,

not comedy, just like turdy. And I was, I watched like the first hour of it this morning.
I just need to know like what people are seeing. Do you know what I mean? Yeah.
And I remember when I was recording it, I had like, I think Justin announced that I was pregnant. So I was like really feeling insecure about my body.
Meanwhile, I look amazing comparatively. Like wish I looked like that now.
So just like, if you know me, I like my friend Rachel texted me and she was like oh my god Jay Shetty I'm like please don't watch her like if you know me and Olivia texted me too she's like I'm watching Jay Shetty loving it please stop disconnect her wi-fi Shannon was like when does the video come out I was like Shannon do a powder hour a power outage at Olivia's house cut the cords at Olivia's house please so I'm just like I'm, please. So I'm just like, I'm feeling,

and I'm not embarrassed

about anything that I,

I mean,

I'm embarrassed.

No, it's not about embarrassed.

It's not even the right word.

It's just like,

Personal.

It's very personal

in a way that only people

who don't know you

are allowed to know these things.

And sometimes it's actually easier

to tell a complete stranger

your deepest, darkest secret

than it is to tell

like your sister.

Yeah.

So check that out.

It's video and audio and we love Jay Shetty in this house and like only he could get me to talk like that so like kill me don't worry i won't watch like i saw it i was like all the people in all the land you are the least allowed to watch like we are too close for you to know that shit okay i agree i saw the clips and i was wow, this looks amazing. I wish I could watch it, but I can't.
This episode is not available to me. You are barred from watching, okay? I'm going to tell Jay Shetty to block you.
I hope you guys enjoy it because I can't. Yeah, like if there's a particular moment you think Jackie might find funny, feel free to take a video and send it to her.
But that's but that's it yeah that is it so that's why I've had a morning just kind of being a national sensation in the vulnerability community what have you had understood just such a busy morning I have such a busy day today and I'm still recovering I was telling you like this is taking a while for me to recover from this sickness I'm now hearing that what I've had was COVID because I was having dinner at Trout's last night as one does one of my favorite restaurants dear Satchel is here yeah all my sisters are together without me yeah we all had dinner last night Margo is staying at my house she's only here for a night because like you guys we're all going to be together this weekend um and we were having dinner at Olivia's and I was saying how it's like kind of taking me a long time to like recover from this like I just feel like so like knocked down like not no longer actively sick but like weird yeah foggy everything I'm like it's kind of like when people like would have COVID and you just like still had like the symptoms and she was like oh well it's COVID that's going around I was like but you said Kayla had the flu and then like Kayla got Harry and Charlie's like and that's how it all went she was like no I think it was COVID and I'm like oh so I had COVID nobody told me I had COVID by the the way it doesn't sound like you have COVID it sounds like you now have long COVID. It sounds like it's going on eight days it's long COVID.
And to be honest I'm so ready for your long COVID era like I just think that's where you're gonna shine. I completely agree I didn't know that I had like long COVID let alone.
And when I was labeling my sickness last week,

it's important to label sometimes.

It is.

It feels good to have a name.

But I mislabeled it.

I was saying flu, flu.

Meanwhile, I should have said COVID.

It was short COVID, which is now turned into long COVID.

Yeah, but I'm going to fight it.

You know, I'm going to get out there.

I'm going to push through.

I'm going to try and work my brain past the brain fog.

I feel like doing the toast, like when it comes to like pregnancy brain, even postpartum brain, brain fog from sickness. I actually love doing the show because it forces me to exercise my brain and move past the fogginess.
The toast is brain camp. It is.
Like my brain would be mush after like pregnancy and everything. If I weren't required, I wasn't you know use my words I think reading has helped you get your brain back yeah no honest everything that they say helps the toast yeah the toast is huge I actively have to use my brain every day and it's good so I'm fighting past long COVID it will will not get me down.
Long COVID strong. L-C-S.
L-C-S. Thank you.
I also, not only did I have a morning, I have an afternoon. Today is the day.
There are so many days. Wow.
Like I've seriously been talking about this big thing that's happening to me. I've been talking about it for a couple of years.
Physical therapy, coccidinia.

My glucose test.

I was going to get there.

That was seriously my next guess.

My glucose test is tonight.

Not looking forward to it.

I'm not going to lie.

I have not even tried.

People say you can try to eat X, Y.

I've done nothing.

I've just been my normal self, which I think is best.

I want the best, most accurate results.

I'm thinking I'm not going to share my results on Instagram. You'll have to tune into the toast tomorrow to find out.
Oh, oh, oh. Yeah, and so I know I have to drink that juice.
I know I have to fast for an hour before the test, which is definitely going to be really hard for me. So when the clock strikes, I need to have lunch right after the toast.
You know what you need, actually, and something that really helped Dana in her GD journey, which you're obviously not on yet but if if you if you know if that's what my future holds but but would have also helped you in the lead up to the test is sourdough because it's sugarless bread like when i saw that would have been nice when i saw dana and she had gd and i gave her like a loaf of sourdough and we had sourdough sandwiches and whatever and she then did her glucose moniker after zero degree like we had like pargy sandwiches and it was so good for her maybe this is my foray into sourdough if my you know if medicine takes me that way yeah we'll see anyways good luck drinking it good luck not eating i've heard such mixed messages about the the drink i mean it's yucky in the way that like drinkable medicine is like a little yucky but somebody said it tastes like orange soda like i heard it's good really really sweet orange soda like okay it's a little yucky but then you drink it it's not horrible it's just like not my favorite tasty beverage and you have to drink it all in like five minutes yeah but it But it's a small, it's one of the shirt bottles. Shirt.
Oh. It's very shirt.
I think a lot of like the glucose test mania is like overhyped on social media. Like.
Yeah, people want to have their moment. I'm being dramatic.
People want to have their moment, Claudia. Because I think that like what I'm about, I think I'm going to be disappointed when I get to the test.
Yeah. And then it's a blood test.

Not fun.

Yeah.

So you chug.

You have to wait an hour.

In that hour, I actually have a scan.

So I'll be busy.

Right.

And because I planned like really well.

And then I'm going to go back, get your blood taken.

Yeah.

Okay.

Big day.

Huge day.

It's also, oh, we have like a really fun, exciting week.

So tomorrow I'm headed to Florida for a wedding.

So I'm going to see my sister, which is just a bonus.

And so Friday's episode, we're going to be together.

Yeah.

We actually have booked kind of a sick, pargy studio.

So get ready for like new studio vibes.

You know we get new personalities every time we enter a new studio in Florida.

Yeah, and we just get to like walk into an office, throw our handbags down.

And get to work. And that will be like a fun environment.
I'm really excited. And then we're going to spend the day together.
Yes. Like shopping.
I'm going to see my kids. I cannot wait to see all my kids.
I'm making all the kids come see me. Yeah.
We're going to have fun. Yeah.
I'm excited. So it's kind of like a big week.
Today we have the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills recap, which I did watch this morning. I completely forgot about it.
They're so forgettable. It's been very forgettable.
Last night's episode was a real low. It was, but I also- It took me over two hours to watch it.
Which is- I have a lot of thoughts. Like, nothing happened, but on- And I would never comment on someone's, like, you know, interpersonal family relationships, but Sutton, like, really put it out there for us.
Oh, I mean, yeah, she did. I have, like, a lot of thoughts.
I think she hopes you would comment on it, comment on it considering yeah but not in the way that she wants me to yeah we will discuss summer house premieres tonight you're kidding i'm pretty sure that's what i saw on the gram oh shit so that's exciting yeah we'll watch that i have such a busy night i'm like i'm going to. I'm speaking a little bit.
I'll tell you guys more about it tomorrow because I don't want to jinx it. Wait, what? You don't know about this? I have like an event and I'm like.
That you're speaking at? Yeah. In a way.
Yeah. Yeah.
What is it? Like a young woman's entrepreneurship gala? What is it? It's a women's event. It's young professionals.
No, it's like it's about someone else. And I'm just like, I'm moderating something.
What? I didn't tell you about this. Oh, my God.
You have like ever since you moved, you're so distant. I don't know anything about you.
Also, we're supposed to podcast tonight. Yeah.
Are we not doing that? No, we are. After.
What time? We'll have to confer. But now also with Summer House, like we kind of have to watch Summer House.
Oh, shit. Like our plans just got, God forbid me like one time just want to pre-record an episode so I can get on a plane tomorrow.
No. No.
Literally no. No.
We will schedule. Okay.
But after this, I'm also podcasting with Satchel for the Patreon. Yes.
Which is so exciting. Patreon's blowing up this month.
I love podcasting with my little sister because she has to talk to me and she has to answer your questions about what's going on in her life. And it's not- So make them really personal, you guys.
It's not that I want to know those things because I really would rather not know. Of course.
I have to ask for the people. Yeah, so if you have a question for Margo that's like really deep and dark, put it in our Facebook group so we can get it to her.
For you guys, not for us. We don't even care.
Like we don't even want to know anything. Yeah, no.
Yeah. So that's what's new over here, turd-a-loo.
That's good. Busy things.
Busy things. Yeah.
I can't believe you're speaking at an event. I know.
And you know how nervous I get. Can you text me like what it is? Okay.

I'll try and like give you info.

And you'll tell everyone tomorrow what it is?

Yes.

I just like don't want to jinx it.

You know, like I feel like talking about it.

Yeah,

of course.

Let's see.

Okay.

So it's like a local community event.

Oh,

wow.

I don't know any of this.

Oh, oh, wow. You've been tapped as like a local lifestyle influencer a wee bit yeah wow okay pop off I can't wait to hear all about it tomorrow you guys and just know this isn't like secret project she's just nervous it's like not a big deal yeah no I'm just nervous and I feel like if I talk about it and I brag about it before it happens then like of course I'm gonna be like standing there like hey guys how y'all look at me um I'm also doing something crazy so I've spent the last

like two weeks looking for a dress for this wedding I couldn't really start before that

because my body's changed so much um and I have tried so hard like I have ordered I have gone to

stores I have really tried but it's also hard I really don't want to spend a lot of money at this

current body shape I don't think I'll be this shape really ever again even if I'm pregnant

Like I'm pregnant, like I'll look different, you know? Um, so I don't want to spend a lot of money. Um, so I've really been struggling and my last box of dresses arrived yesterday and it didn't work out.
Like it's, I'm just kind of going to this wedding without a dress, which is crazy I forgot to update you on like my because you've been really helpful in my dress journey I had three more dresses when I saw your Instagram story last night about how you tried on some dresses and they were bad and you didn't send me any pictures like I figured yeah and actually the last dress I tried on wasn't bad but it was far too expensive like I couldn't in good conscience like buy something but so here's what I did that I just want to say like that part I don't agree with that like you can't have an expensive or nice dress because you're at a certain size and you would have spent this much on the same wedding at a different size and no that's the thing I probably I wouldn't I wouldn't have even at a different size like my regular size I it's like I would never spend this amount of money on a dress like it's too much okay but like you shouldn't spend less because you don't like how you look versus how much you would spend if you liked how you looked because one you're fucking pregnant and no it's just it's more so about like spending a lot of money on a dress that I can wear a couple of times is great but I don't know when I would be able to wear this dress again when would I ever be invited to a wedding ever again at this exact size but even at a different size if you wore a dress to a wedding like you're not going to wear it again that soon like you just wore like you're not gonna wear it to the next wedding like it's a wedding dress so it's a special occasion now you're making me feel like i shouldn't have allowed to have like an one expensive special occasion dress that makes you feel good when you're pregnant like i don't know where you made this law up oh my god you're literally making me feel bad should i keep the dress it's it's like you just said it wasn't bad. That's how, did you love it? Like, was it great? Let me send you a picture.
Let me send you a picture. If it was greatness, yeah.
Like you deserve to like feel great. You're doing great things.
So what I then ended up doing was ordering three more dresses directly to my hotel, which is so crazy. Like it's, I know how crazy it is.
I know. I feel like people do that all the time.
Meanwhile, I should be working at a department store in sales because I can make, like literally nobody can push you to spend money, push anyone to spend money on clothes like me. It's true.
Okay, I texted you the dress. Like it's cute.
You look amazing. And you could tell it's top quality fabric.
Now text me the price. It was top quality fabric.
Text me the price. Oh, oh, oh.
I'm like embarrassed. Okay.
There you go.

I think you deserve it.

You look like a queen that you are.

The thing is, like, I didn't even, I didn't like it that much for that price.

Do you know what I mean?

That I understand.

And that could be true at any size.

But don't, like, punish yourself with an uglier lesser dress.

No, no.

It's not uglier, actually.

They're better.

It's from the same brand, but they were all on sale. So, sale so whatever the thing is i'm going to a wedding without a dress i'm going to a party in a limo i was thinking the same thing um i'm going to a party without a dress and like i'm leaving for a wedding without a dress for the wedding which is so crazy i have you know those like norma kamali um long like the roosh dress yes i have like a long sleeve one in green if that's of interest to that i wore well that's the other thing i also have two sisters who live locally like if worst case scenario like i'll figure something out yeah but that's the only like pregnancy fancy dress i have i think are you interested i'm going to a party without a dress okay well treat yourself is what i'll say and And here's what I'll say to my Teresa.com.

If you don't get me that FedEx 1 to 2 Express Business Day shipping that I ordered, like,

because I ordered it last night.

It still hasn't shipped.

Now, the wedding's not till Sunday.

Okay.

We're good on time.

We're good on time.

But, like, where is the shipping information?

Just make haste.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Teresa, if you're listening, tick tock on the clock. Party don't start till I walk in.
You know? Yeah. Yeah.
Okay, well, I look forward to seeing what you wear. Yeah, me too.
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You're welcome. Our first story, Kylie Kelsey is on Call Her Daddy this week talking about, you know, Kylie, but also talking about Taylor.
She answered a bunch of questions about her and Taylor's relationship, when she met Taylor, when she found out Taylor and Travis were dating oh my god long COVID is taking Kylie Kelsey down as well oh my god long COVID strong I could long COVID strong but it's still there you know should I just move your mic out of the way yep and just let her let her rip she has to do what she has to do and this is a show that's recorded live to tape. If you want it up early, we're not gonna be able to edit out these coughs, you guys.
We are just that authentic, okay? So much better. Thank you.
Of course. So Kylie Kelsey revealed when Travis told her that he was dating Taylor, or when they found out, actually, because she said that Travis didn't tell her and Jason found out together, out together but she didn't say how they found out okay anyways on the new episode of call her daddy um Alex was asking how her and Jason learned that uh Taylor had come to the picture she said I'm assuming your family was like getting told this in some capacity Alex said to which Kylie responded we were not I will say knew before everyone else, but it was not like it did not hit the group chat.
They said that they found out together, but we knew before they hard launched at a game together. So they didn't find out with everyone, but they didn't find out from Travis.
How do you else find? I guess they have like mutual friends and stuff. Yeah.
Or maybe the parents, like maybe Donna knew and she slipped it. To be honest like i'm not really entirely interested in how these two found out to me that's not the most interesting part i really and i have no proof of this just like based on vibes i feel like i know taylor well i've like studied her my whole life and i'm learning so much about kylie she's like new to the public sphere and i just can't see these two really getting along you know in a in a way outside of being like potential sister-in-laws.
Like they're both lovely and nice, but on a real personality level, I don't think these two would find each other in high school and be good friends. I agree.
And I don't think that that's necessary. It seems like, I also feel like in this interview, Kylie answered every question.
She didn't give a ton of extra information. She wasn't like glowing about Taylor, but it was reminding me of like Donna Kelsey on GMA.
Like, it's fine, you know? Yeah, yeah. It could come off rude, but it's more so like media trained.
It's media trained and just like not wanting to talk about Taylor if she doesn't want to be spoken about. So like she's answering questions like from her perspective, but not like going in on all these details.
She shared that they bonded over vacationing like down the shore in the same towns when they grew up like in taylor went down the shore i can't see it people in like pennsylvania yeah they go yes i know i know down the shore um and that i just i can't picture scott's and andrea and andrew and taylor like all it's not like the it's the show. No, no, I know, but I just like, it's just the Jersey Shore is like a very popular beach town.
There's like many different towns. We know from the show, but like most of it is just like suburban Jersey.
I know, I just can't see it. Yeah, they weren't in Seaside.
They were just at their local beach. What is Taylor's, oh, Austin Swift.
I called him Andrew. I'm watching too much Desperate Housewives.
And then Alex had also asked Kylie if she tried Taylor's food, like homemade cooking before. Because they said that they've been on a double date, not to a restaurant, but to a house.
She was like, yeah, but I haven't eaten her food because I was eight weeks pregnant and everything just like made me sick. Oh, got it.
Got it. That's funny.
Yeah. So like there there wasn't that much there there but now we have a little bit more information yeah I also feel like with the Donna Kelsey like vibe how you said like sometimes it could seem like they hate Taylor but mostly they're just like afraid and don't want to say the wrong thing right I also think like at some point it does get annoying to like just constantly be asked I always think that like when I saw Chrissy Abrams was on the cover of Cosmopolitan and obviously like a huge part of her life and her fandom is like the conversions of Taylor Swift.
She opened for Taylor. So like the questions are natural, but I feel like that happens a lot with Taylor where she gets brought up in like random spaces and it's annoying.
And like for Kylie, like she's out here like a mom of four. She's a spokesperson for her community.
She's an athlete. She's pregnant.
She's a podcast host. Like in every interview.

And of course you have to ask about Taylor.

Yeah.

But like it also could be like, okay, like can I have a moment to myself?

Yeah.

I think it was just like a piece of the interview.

I think it's what Kylie expects like going into any interview.

And I don't know.

And if you don't ask any questions, that's also weird.

No, you have to.

You have to for the audience, but also when it's a part of Kylie's's life like it's a very big like interesting part of her life now yeah speaking of like internet stuff i over the weekend during the super bowl i have thought this for quite some time just being like a chronically online big time loser um but then i saw a lot of conversations on like social media specifically tiktok being had being spoken about alex earl's relationship with alex cooper um and i had thought for a while that like they kind of fizzled like they were hot and fast for like a couple of months and then it fizzled which is natural like alex earl's doing a million things she's like the face of a million brands but they were then at the super bowl together well it's not like natural to fizzle when you work together. Like it's not like they were.
Well, you legally can't. Yeah, it's not like they were besties and now they've gone in different directions or someone got a boyfriend or whatever.
Like they were seen a lot together and doing a lot together because they're working together and they're still. Contractually obligated.
They're still technically working together. So that's what makes it unlike an other fizzle.
And I think it became like so glaringly obvious when they were at the same event this weekend the super bowl and cooper i'm just gonna use last names for the sake of brevity cooper was like throwing a bunch of events for her company and earl is a part of that company and all the talent that's a part of the company was there posting and earl was not right and they're in the same town it's not like much of a lift's definitely beef. And we were talking about this with like the Spencer Pratt of it all.
And the more that I think about that situation. The Spencer Pratt.
In the same day that he's dragging Cooper. Her boss.
Licks versus Lex. Licks.
It's Licks versus Lex. It's Licks versus Lex.
Licks is on IG live with him dancing to his wife's song while he's dragging the boss out by her hair. Like there is something.
And then Nola just completely confirms that. Like there's no, the question now is like what happened? Not did something happen? Yeah.
And so a lot of people are pointing to this episode of Alex Earl's podcast that she now, it's kind of rebranded. She hosts it with her sister, which I think was a great call.
I actually really like the sister. A remote sister podcast.
It's a remote sister podcast. They had their dad on.
They had their dad on. Okay.
And I didn't know that their dad like manages them. I mean, he's a very successful business person.
They own like a huge, they're like very independently wealthy. And he owns a huge trucking company.
And if you actually have ever been in a tri-state area and you're just like on the highway you'll see one of his trucks it's called earl's trucking or something like it's huge yes um but him managing them is kind of new he wasn't managing since the beginning right no i don't think so because it was the first time i had heard it yeah and i feel like that's such an interesting fact and i love you know when people keep things in the family i feel like have heard that. So the first time, my introduction was when she released a podcast with him like two months ago.
And they were just talking about like his POV on them and their careers and his, you know, business background. And he had said a couple of things that are now, I think at the time didn't really make waves, but now appear to be making a little bit more sense.
Just being like, yeah, like now that he's involved, we're going to start doing things a little bit differently. differently and he's like there were some things I saw at the beginning of your career um that I wasn't entirely comfortable with and I think a lot of people had um just immediately drawn the her interview on call her daddy they thought he was referencing that um because they do get like you know very sexual They were like talking about anal.
And why are people drawing from that? Like, is there? He must have. He must have made it seem more clear than I'm making it in this moment.
I'm just paraphrasing. OK, but.
And it also could he could be talking about something completely fucking different. You know, we're just like we're all speculating.
Yeah. But that's what the Internet sort of assumed.
But maybe we all just like looking for clues now because of the super bowl thing i've i've been like watching this being like oh these two definitely don't get along anymore and like some things and she's gonna leave the network um when her contract is up i don't know when that is but i think the super bowl and like the lack of them being together even spotted once made this like a much more mainstream thing now where i'm seeing it all over my social media um whereas before i was just like, you know, thinking to myself, I'm like, oh, what's going on? Yeah. Yeah.
But there's definitely something going on, but she's still at the network. Yes.
Well, contracts are contracts, but she's not like, she's not supporting the network. That's the thing.
And I think a part of when you become a talent on that network is you go to events, you do products, you make content for social media, you guest on other unwell shows. It's like, it's a full-time job.
Yeah, Clambakes, Trips to the Cape. And she just, and she was doing that at one point because I remember she went to like South by Southwest when it was just like her and Madeline Argy.
Those were like the first two talents. But radio silence ever since.
Yeah. Yeah, storms a-brewin'.
I know. Like like to me this is this is a gossip i find interesting like this is internet drama podcast drama like i need to know internet and podcast drama very much so tick tock and pod the convergence of our two favorite things yeah we'll see what happens right now there's nothing to know because there it's just a it's just the dearth that's there you know it's just the absence of something right nobody's spoken on it yeah it's not the presence of anything yet i want to see something yeah her shows on the podcast network still says unwell so she is like legally and probably like ad sales wise being distributed by unwell yeah well also just a little more kelsey family news is that jason and taylor's nope jason and travis's jason and taylor yeah ship jason and travis's new episode of new heights came out and i just want to give travi a lot of credit for showing up on the podcast with this tail between his legs like he has had a rough emotional few days and to go and talk about your big man feelings like about the game is very big of him and i feel like he could have they could have pushed a week yeah and he didn't mad respect and i wanted to give credit to jason because that's also like a hard job for you to do where like you're involved a little bit but but you're supposed to sort of be like steering this ship while keeping the show entertaining.
And he did make me chuckle a couple of times. Like he did a really good job as a podcaster in that moment, but also a brother and friend.
Yeah, yeah. So Travis and Jason released a new episode of New Heights.
Travis was talking about, you know, the motionality of the game, how they just like couldn't get any momentum going. He had made a couple of bad decisions that he regrets and he's obviously just feeling in his feelings about the game.
They also said that they've, before they started New Heights, they went months without talking to each other sometimes and how the podcast has really kept them close. Yes, I saw that too, which I loved.
Quickly, just back to Travis's monologue about the Super Bowl. He did this thing that I also saw Patrick Mahomes doing in the press conference immediately after the game where it was like blaming yourself.
Being like the whole, the reason we lost was all my fault. I wasn't a good enough leader.
I was making mistakes. And it's like, okay, well, that's just not true.
Like you all were bad. Just like we saw him as a team collectively.
No, I know, but that's part of being a team. Like you want to protect.
No, it's part of being a leader. And yeah, you want to protect your teammates.
You just beat yourself up for the things that you could have done that you didn't do. And I think it's going to be a little bit of time before he's moved on.
Do you feel like he is going to retire? So. It's not like so obvious.
I feel like with with Jason it was like he didn't say it but we just knew based on a multitude of things I feel like it could be a little early for Travis but if he did like it would be good too I don't think he's going to retire but I do think now this is the march to retirement but like I don't think you start dating Taylor two years in and now you're like unemployed and you used to be busy every day and now you're sitting on the couch recording your podcast it's giving Joe Alwyn like it's giving Joe Alwyn get a job for his relationship like he wants to still be that guy I don't think he wants to go out this way I think he wants to prove them all wrong at least one more time and I think he's gonna keep going he's just gonna work harder and then he'll retire in like two years or whatever. I don't think it's this time, but I definitely, for the first time in a serious way, he's, it's like in the air.
It's also hard because Travis is 35 and Patty Mahomes is 29. So like that six year age difference like is where like your career is, you know? Those are like the best years.
So I can see him almost staying to keep up with Patti and be this dynamic duo that they are. Patrick and Travis, Travis and Patrick.
But Patrick was born in 1995. That's really crazy.
I am older than Patrick Holmes. Oh, I thought you were about to say Travis.
I was like, oh my God. No, That tracks for Patrick.
No, Jackie, Travis was born in 1989. Of course he was.
I also feel like even though Travis isn't as good as he once was, he's probably still better than a lot of tight ends. Most players.
Until he's the worst tight end on the field, like, don't give up. No, never give up.
Not until you're the absolute worst. Worst.
That's a really, really good place to be. I don't give up no never give up not until you're the absolute worst worst that's a really really good place to be i don't think he will retire right now and i i know them speaking like with a lot of confidence about this but why can't i like all the other analysts do it what do they know no seriously just call me stephen a smith call me colin cowherd my mortal fucking enemy's crazy.
My husband can't go one day without listening to Colin Cowherd. It must be how like toaster husbands feel about us.
Yeah, of course. When they like hear our voices coming down the pipe with these like people with these like bad takes and like annoying voices.
Like that's how I feel about Colin Cowherd. Worst fucking takes.
Oh, that's so funny. And then you like meet a toaster in the wild with her husband who like kind of hates you, know he's like taking the picture like to be a good husband and you could tell like he knows who you are he's like yeah we listen in the car and you know he just like wants to actually shoot you just to end the misery um we've all been there so i get it yeah we are some people's calling coward i know the feeling i just want to say and it's tough who's my calling cowherd claudia jackieshere let me think like who does Ben listen to for takes that literally gives the worst takes ever Ben doesn't like really consume content but what about um like creators that he's always that it's always piping through his phone like but he just goes through phases like of interests like he'll be really into like eastern medicine for a while and he'll find like a bunch of like meditative sort of like jay shetty like you know spiritual leaders and then he'll get really into like punk music like he just like goes like he doesn't have he doesn't have a consistent fave no no okay i guess i'm trying to think like who does he even follow on social media like when he scrolls through oh oh i'm sorry i know my husband's

colin cowherd is it's these four guys it's alex cornichelli correct and they're not even they don't even give takes i just am forced to watch so ben is obsessed with this group of guys on tiktok it's like four guys and they go and play mini golf and they make really high quality videos of the game. And it's like, it's like a five minute video rundown of all the holes being like, Sam is going for a part two.
And they get like really high quality like video shots. It's in fucking sufferable to watch and listen to.
He thinks it's so cool. He, I know he would die, die to go play a game with them and like get in one of their videos because Ben loves mini golf.
I find it like ringing in my ear. That's so funny.
He also loves golf. Does he follow any golf commentators? No.
No. Just himself.
Does he watch golf? Yes. Golf doesn't have like raging commentary.'s like a silent sport yeah but they'll these people will comment on anything when it comes to sports like it's so so crazy yeah are you ready for our next story is this only number two because that was like four stories in one yes cool mandy moore is slamming amazon for allegedly allegedly delivering a package to her in-laws home that was destroyed in the LA wildfires.
So Mandy Moore posted a photo to her story of like a totally burnt down home. And in front of it is an Amazon package.
And she wrote, do better Amazon. Can we not have better discretion than to leave a package at a residence that no longer exists? This is my mother and father-in-law's home smh

shaking my head okay don't use mandy moore throwing around an smh is what makes this story fast five worthy too bad it wasn't an smdh shaking fh shaking my fucking head we don't use smh enough and we don't SRHs enough either. Shaking my head.
So I saw this and honestly, like, I kind of rolled my eyes. While, yes, it is really crazy that, like, the package is, like, outside of a door that no longer exists.
I think he ordered something. Right.
No, and, like, what was – I have to think about the driver. Like, the driver still has a job to do.
I imagine like if you lose packages as a driver, like you are docked in some way, like what is the driver realistically supposed to do? And to be honest, like if I ordered a package and I had a house that burned down and it said delivered, like I would go and get it, you know, like at least you kind of know where it is. And I just think like in the grand scheme, Manny Moore has lost everything.
Her in-laws have lost everything. She's been like one of the most vocal people, like a celebrity who really lost a lot.
Like this like, isn't really worth her time and energy. That's just how I feel.
No, I agree. They ordered something.
Well, by the way, this is totally what happened. No, no, that's a good call.
It's happened to me all the time. Like when you move and you forget forget to update your address.
Right. So, like, they needed, they, like, are in a rental or something and they needed towels because they're whatever.
And they sent the towels to the old bird down house. Like, I know how it happened.
And it's unfortunate for sure. Amazon has amazing customer service.
And it's just, like, it's really not Amazon's fault. No, but, like, in that moment, the driver had a package to deliver to an address.
And he was probably just as confused as we are all watching this picture. like that might be someone might not have an address where they could ship things but they have right this address and so you would go and pick it up i don't like this is obviously like a weird visual you know and it's not how it is and also i get delivered but i have some more logistical questions something so terribly wrong of course not but i do have logistical questions for the amazon.
Like when an entire block of homes is burned down, how do you know which is like house 39? GPS, like your destination's on your left and just plop. Yeah.
Plop. Somewhere.
Yeah. I just, I think as a celebrity, like when you use your platform to complain like about customer service, like you have to be really particular because it does look like out of touch for a celebrity.
Be like, oh, Delta, you didn't give me a refund. It's one of my least fucking favorite things.
Like, yeah, it's okay for regular folk to do. Like that's what social media is so great for is like getting access to customer service you might not get just like waiting on the phone.
When celebrities do it, it is so out of touch. I don't care if you're, we were just talking about Jessica Chastain versus JetBlue, the people versus Jet Blue.
Like it was, and she's probably right. Like give her her $1,500, but it's like, girl, girl, you have an Oscar, like you'll be fine.
So you have to be really prudent as a celebrity when you're going to use your platform for customer service need. And I don't think that this was worth it.
I don't think so either. And I, I don't know what the, the solve would have been here.
Like, so they just should have lost the package. Because really, like.
By the way. If you're not delivering any take-it-back to the warehouse, like, it's gone.
And it sounds like, since they were able to take a photo of the box, that they got the box. It's kind of like Amazon can deliver anywhere, anytime.
Yeah, no, it's kind of admirable. Like, no matter the circumstance this post-apocalyptic street in Los Angeles, like Amazon still shows up.
And by the way, you don't know what the driver has been through. Has the driver lost his home? And like the driver's just trying to get through the day and like get a paycheck and just deliver packages.
Like, I don't know. It's an L for Mandy.
It's kind of a good advertisement for Amazon. Yeah, like rain or shine, fire and rain.
And brimstone. We will be there.
And that's the kind of delivery I've come to expect from Amazon. So I'm not shocked to see that big box.
And you know there were towels in that box. It's just like such a perfect size for towels.
You think people, the Moors get their towels on Amazon? It's the Moor-in-laws. So what's her husband's name? The Moor Machatunem sister? Exactly.
What's her husband's name? Goldsmith. She married a Jew.
Does Goldsmith? So it really is her Machatunem sister does Goldsmith get his towels on Amazon I forgot to tell you 100% by the way do you get I forgot to tell you okay no I don't get my towels on Amazon me neither I get like everything on Amazon I wouldn't get towels on My current towels, and I like to rotate them out like quite frequently.

My current towels are Brooklyn.

And after we talked about Macha Tanam Sista, Maddie texted me.

She's like, I love it.

She wants to be called Macha Tanam Sista from now on.

That just cracks me up.

Me too.

We're hilarious.

We are hilarious.

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Let's not get into it, but we're so hilarious and overlooked.

Are you ready for our next story? Mm- next story it's for you and you alone targul moose admits that he accidentally that he accidentally called his wife heather by his ex christina's name he said i'm lucky to be live it's giving i ross take the Rachel. Emily.
Yeah. If you know, you know.
Yeah. Sounds really funny.
It really was. It also shook the community at the time, like in 1999 when that happened.
Yeah. I wasn't aware, but people were not OK.
Targo Moussa makes mistakes like the rest of us, shockingly. And one was almost deadly.
So in behind the scenes clip of an upcoming episode of the flip-off posted i love that the flip-off is making so much news it is it's literally the most newsworthy amazing thing yeah um he revealed that he accidentally once called his current wife heather by his ex-wife christina's name he made the admission after one of his contractors brian called heather by christina's name tarik jokedoked, what did you call her? One more time, say it for us. And Heather was like, Christina.
And Tarek goes, oh shit, I did that one time. I'm lucky to be alive.
Here's the thing. You know, I'm always the first person to make Tarek Amusa the villain in a story.
And he is most of the time. Given the fact that these two look so similar, Tarek and Christina still co-parent and still work together so much.
I can imagine being on a job site with like a beautiful blonde and calling her Christina. Do you know what I mean? He did for so many years.
Yeah. So I don't think that this is, you know, there was any ill will when Tarek did it.
I don't know if I would have shared with the world that I did that, but that's why me and Tarek are different. We are very different, me and Tarek.
You are. I think that's why you get along so well.
We're also inherently the same, and I think that's why we beef so hard because it's like I hate myself. Yeah, perhaps.
I think – I mean, Tarek's only had two wives, so it's not like he'll get out of the habit of Christina, but I feel like for someone who goes through a lot of like partners it's better just call them all like a pet name you know like babe or something that way you never have to really switch it out christina christina needs to do that yeah christina like i'm sure she has a pet name for her boyfriends that way she doesn't have to like constantly remember their name boo boo ew boo i mean i'm a babe girl. I am a moof mama.
At least I know Ben can never leave me and like use our pet names because they're not generic like love bug, buddy hump. It's moof mama.
it's mufalish or he could he could never call anybody mufalish

and the thing is

is that

f*** It's Moof Mama. It's Moof-a-lish.
Or he could. He could never call anybody Moof-a-lish.
And the thing is, is all of our weird nicknames, I guess, are originated from maybe at one point in our relationship, Ben called me Muffin. Yeah.
Moof-a-lish. And then it became Moof-a-lish, Big Daddy Moof, Big Papa Moof.
Like, yeah. Yeah, Big Mama Moof.
Big Mama Moof. Big? Small Mama Moof.
Now it small mama move now it's like it's move alish that's what ben calls me move alish you guys are so move alish yeah i'm trying to think like when ben comes home what does he say like move alish yeah like move may move yeah no but we've really evolved to move alish recently I love a lish. He's brunjolish.
He's brunjolish, mufolish, and he's papa.

Okay. No, but we've really evolved to move a leash recently.
I love a leash. He's one.
You're a leash. He's one.
You're a leash. Move a leash.
And he's Papa. OK.
I wonder, like, if our kids are going to call him Papa instead of Daddy. Papa, Papa.
I so want my kids like, Ma, Papa. I want them to be like Eastern European shtetl.
Like. Yeah.
Love that. Well, Tarek.
And I also think if you train your kids to call the father papa they will say mama first as opposed to dada that's what actually my physical therapist who just had a baby she was telling me life hack if you don't want them to say dada first make them call like father oh that's really funny like make it too hard I just want to say like of my kids said mama first. Slay the house down.
Yeah, that's right. Mom of the year, world's greatest mom.
You bitches could never raise in the standard for women. Except how are you to say Bruno first? Well, as you should.
I actually had a dream. Oh, my God.
My dreams are so crazy. Also, babies love bees.
So Bruno is actually a great dog name. Like if you have little ones and you want to get a dog, it's so easy for them to say.
It's really fun. I had a dream that Bruno came to live with Ben and I because you know like we secretly want that to happen.
You do. But also secretly you want me to take Romeo.
Yeah. Yeah.
But Ben, I don't know if you know, like Ben really feels very strongly about Bruno. He doesn't like his lifestyle.
Ben thinks that Bruno's not reaching his full potential living in Florida. Like he thinks that living here in New York with us and Romeo, like Bruno would be much happier.
He thinks Bruno's depressed and he thinks he has to do with his lifestyle. Why? Because he's like in the home or because he's like abused by his brothers? Well, he's just like, if you look at him, like he doesn't seem happy all the time.
Oh, I don't know. I put a heated blanket down on my bed this week because he's a grandma.
That's the thing. That's what I'm saying.
He's a grandma. But like how old is he? Four and a half.
He's giving 14. No, but a half.
But like Bruno loves cozy ever since I've met him when I even when I was pregnant with Harry. So Bruno wasn't even a year and I got a heated blanket like the way the boy's eyes lit up like Bruno loves cozy I just want to let you know if you ever like felt like Bruno wasn't fitting into your lifestyle anymore or one of the one of the kids developed an allergy like whatever Bruno is welcome in my home Ben would love to rehabilitate him and and make him into a guard dog who goes on four-hour runs.

Well, he goes on an hour walk every day.

Bruno's living the life of Riley.

I'm sure Bruno's fine.

Ben is so crazy about the dogs.

No offense.

I'm not taking advice from him.

I don't want to be like that.

Ben is really crazy about the dogs.

And I do wonder when we have a real human child.

It will change, hopefully. Because sometimes the way Ben the dogs and I do wonder like when we have a real human child.
It will change hopefully.

Because sometimes the way Ben

talks about Romeo I'm like Ben

he's a dog. Yeah like when you guys

are here. And it's the most offensive thing I could say.

When you guys are here like the

concern for Romeo when he's like completely

fine. Yes I agree.

I agree he's dramatic.

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mother in a new Skims ad.

I'm sorry, I just checked my phone, like somebody else texting me about J. She's like, seriously, somebody I work with, like seriously, kill me.
Well, just, I'm sure it's good. You know, by the way, it wasn't bad.
Like I'm not, I'm not ashamed of what I put out there. It's like people know too much about me now.
Yeah. People just know too much about you, but that's always been the case.
So just like try and forget about it. Yeah.
Kim showcased her comedy skills in a new advertisement for Skims because they are like releasing shapewear that's like butt enhancers. Enhancing.
And like bigger butt, bigger boobs. Which is so her.
But mother in this new ad, which was actually really cute. Yeah, no, I was really obsessed with the product launch.
Like, first of all, Skims is like always doing crazy things and everybody's like, that's crazy. And then they like slay the house down.
Like their nipple bra was so popular. Yeah.
So, and I do feel like I'm not one of these people, like I have enough breasts to go around and I'm really not like a tushy person. So I'm not the target demo for this particular product, but I know that like, there are actually a lot of women who like wear different undergarments, wear different types of clothing to enhance these parts of their body.
And so she's kind of really giving women what they want, but I couldn't help but think about like Kim's ass, like in general, right? Like the journey we've been on when they first got famous, she like really now in hindsight had like the most normal body ever. She just had like an ass that was like a little bigger than like someone else of her size right yeah and the media just became obsessed with it it was like Kim's ass Kim's ass Kim's ass and so much so that like it kind of got its own personality its own and it obviously got bigger with time yeah and she was like accentuated in whatever she wore because like that was her thing yes and it was also like this running thing is it real is it real is it real and I do believe like when she launched on the scene she was just like a girl who had like like a thicker tush and it was totally real and then it because she got rewarded for it so much and so much attention like I do think she ended up enhancing it surgically or whatever and then the validity of the tushy became like a worldwide we were talking about it all the time like I forget about that time in my life where like everyone was just talking about Kim's tushy so much so that she got an x-ray on Tyra the was it on Tyra no I was on keeping up oh I don't know why and she like showed us all her x-ray and it's like it's real and it was supposed to like put the whole thing to bed but the butt was just getting bigger and.
And then Chloe randomly got a butt. And we just know they got it from the same place.

And that was like before.

Yeah.

So there was no butt implant in there.

But like there, I think, you know, what they've done allegedly, it's like BBL, which is just like injecting with fat, which wouldn't come up on an x-ray.

It's not in, you know, a foreign object.

Correct.

So the fact that we have now all these, like we actually never got, like I know that her butt is not real right like I'm not stupid um but the fact that like it was such a topic of conversation in pop culture for actual years and now she's even profiting off of it which I love but without ever like telling us what really like what is it like just what is it like what is it? Like, God, what is it? No, it's so weird how like,

for a while everyone was talking about it

and then we don't talk about it

and she doesn't talk about it.

And like, I feel like she would never answer

a question about it.

Still probably to this day,

but this ad is kind of bringing the questions up again.

It's reminding me.

Where it's like we have all just sort of accepted

we'll never get the truth or the answers that we want.

Also, in all the time that she's like lost all this weight even on the show like she'll complain about her butt without saying any more yeah no and then like when chloe got a butt and they also i think took things a little and kylie and not court, least interesting to look at famously. Kendall.
No, no, but do you remember Khloe's tushy? She obviously, I think she had like a botched something, because there's like a specific season of Kardashians where she wore, I'm remembering this picture, she wore light wash jeans. And her tushy is like, it's actually like a full six feet, like six inches like off off her back.
Like it's, it's a shell. Yeah, that's a BDL, right? To me, that actually wasn't a BDL.
I don't, I actually, I don't even know. So I think that they were like trying different things like surgery wise.
And that was, I think the, the turning point for them was that season where Chloe, and Kim's was so crazy too. But like Chloe's also just popping up out of nowhere.
Kim's was like a 10 year progression that like day to day you didn't notice. But if you looked at a picture from 2010 to 2020, you were like, oh yeah.
Chloe's was seriously in six months. Like it was so fucking crazy.
Chloe. And so that really put everybody back on the conversation.
It is so crazy that like we're sitting here talking about a woman's tissue. it's disgusting but like that is what happened yeah like that was seriously the craziest time of my life yeah so things have been quiet since then because we also like don't talk about women's bodies things um but now like she's helping women get a little junk in the trunk artificially which is a really good product but it definitely brings up the question again it brings up the question again and i know people are like clowning on her like this is bad for women let me tell you women are gonna love this this product's gonna crush like bad for women i think this is i don't think it is either i think anything that makes you feel more comfortable in your body especially if it's something that then you don't have to get surgery or do something permanent or do something dangerous or go somewhere to get a surgery because you can't get one I think it's great 1000% and like if this was an issue that I had with my body like I would be the first person in line if she comes out with like it's not like something I've ever thought about but like maybe I'm maybe I should be thinking about it you know if she could come out with like a fupa decliner like I will be the first person to purchase you know what I mean yeah like I think products like this are actually great yeah I think it's really great yeah so she needs to get back in the lab on the the fupa-licious decliner and I will be promoting it for free yeah so um get your get your butt pants what are they calling them like it was the fairy butt she's the fairy butt mother but what's the product called the ultimate butt collection cute yeah cute are you ready for our fifth and final story yes kylie jenner was out supporting timothy chalamet at the santa barbara the santa babra international film festival so kai uh timothy took the stage to collect it's giving orlando film festival first of all like he's a santa barbara film festival it's not a thing the sbi ff the spiff you didn't oh oh oh you didn't say that it was the spiff it's not the tiff it's it's the spiff um he took the stage to collect the Arlington Artist of the Year Award.
The prestigious Arlington. Oh, wow, wow.
I wonder how they celebrated such a major milestone. So, of course, she had to go for the Arlington at the spiff.
But it was just at, like, a movie theater. It was really crazy to see them, like, in a rec room.
And you could tell she was loving every minute of being his girl. Rubbing his back, sending him up there, clapping.
She's just Mrs. Chalamet.
She is Mrs. Chalamet.
I really can't get over it. They're such an unlikely duo, visually.
No, because they come from different worlds, but then visually, like if you look at a, by the way, have they ever even done a red carpet together? No. No.
That's so crazy. No, they're both like pale brunettes.
No. Yes, if you want to be simple about it.
But the way I see it, she's like this whole lot of woman, curves, breasts. I'm being really disgusting.
Sorry, sexualizing the Kardashians today. But they are these really bodacious women.
Yeah. And I think one of the things that people loved about them for so long was that they really they've never been like pin thin with the exception of like Kendall who's a supermodel they've always sort of represented even though it's not real a little bit more of a realistic body like they've always talked about their weights and stuff so they really are like these like curvy beautiful bodacious women and like Timothy's like seriously 90 pounds soaking wet little boy.
Like I, to me, visually, they could not be more different,

even though, yes, they're both pale and brunette.

Yeah.

I don't know.

I feel like obviously it works.

Yeah, no.

And the longer they stay together and the more events they go to,

like I think they're actually probably well matched.

I think they're a good couple.

But I'm such a visual person. I see things very visually.
And you still can't see it? No, I can. I can.
I can. I just, I don't know if I get it.
Oh, I get it now. And she looks so happy.
No, by the way, I get it for him. Like, who wouldn't want to date her, you know? He's like a very kind of polarizing.
Just between you and I. Not even, we're on the same side.
But like, seriously, he's like world's sexiest man for some people. For some people.
But he's polarizing to others too. Like, the fact that he is this, the biggest movie star heartthrob.
He's seriously four feet tall. But he's not short, Claudia.
He's just skinny. Okay, I'm going to get his height.
Just when it comes to the Chalamet family, I'm more of a Pauline Chalamet. Like, she's my girl.
No, I have no issue with Timothy. And he makes my girl happy.
No, it's all good. It's all good.
It's all good. So I'm rooting for them.
I'm rooting for happiness for Kylie and a baby between the two of them. That would be crazy.
I don't think they'll get married. She's not really the marriage type, but she wants a really big family.
And so if that's her partner, like that's who she's going to have a baby with. Great.
So get on it. I'm ready.
Little Wolf Chalamet. That's beautiful.
Would that make her children Jewish? Yes, it would. They could get bar mitzvahed with Mason and Rain.
Yeah, and Penelope. Of course, of course.
I wasn't like skipping over Penelope. Just forgot.
I wonder what they're going to raise Elvis as. Because Mason had a bar mitzvah.
Who's Elvis? Is that not her kid's name? Rocky. Courtney? Rocky.
My bad, my bad. Why did I think his name was Elvis? Rocky is not Jewish.
They are both very Christian. Christian.
So no, Rocky will not. But like all of his siblings has a bar mitzvah and he doesn't get one? I think, yeah.
He'll get other things. That's kind of crazy.
Like Christmas. Like Christmas.
Let's really quickly talk about The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. It really wasn't worth the hour I spent watching it this morning.
Did you watch last week? No, I felt like I could skip it. You could, but you missed the treat of Kathy's house.
It was a treat. I saw in the previously on, and it looked like seeing my girls, Bows, Erica, Kathy, and Dorit.
Like, dweeb team. i feel like i got the vibes and i could tell what you meant like it was just having hard conversations with good friends yeah it was like real girl talk there was laughing there was crying there was hard truths like that's how friends really are it was it was very pleasant to watch this episode was so boring and i don't i got really weird vibes from Sutton wanting to repair her relationship with her mother.
On camera. In the presence of her two friends, one of whom she's literally not friends with, Kyle.
Like, yeah, Garcella's her ride or die. Like, you can go through something like that while also being on camera.
It felt so weird and so disingenuous. And her journey is her journey.
And I don't feel like it's fair to judge anyone, you know, who goes through like what she went through with her dad. Like that's so hard.
But she did put it out there for us to comment on. So my only thought is like I felt like, yeah, did you have like the most amazing mom in the world who was so loving? No.
But it was kind of tough to watch her villainize her mother while sort of only remembering the good of her dad and like memorializing her dad so positively while she was telling us like he wasn't alcoholic like he had his fair share of issues and she almost has like no resentment towards her dad not that she should like you know hate her dad who passed but she had put all of that on her mom like and then when my mom died we my dad died we got fish sticks like give your mom a fucking break like it was actually really tough to watch and then just talking about my dad used to sit in this chair and that's what you do when someone passes of course like you only remember the good and I just feel like that almost left her mom to be treated like more unfairly by Sutton and not that she should feel any type of negative way about her dad because he obviously struggled but to take any, I think a lot of people when they lose a parent, like you feel mad that they left you behind or you feel abandoned. Like she put all of that on her mom.
Yeah. Who ended up having to pick up the pieces.
And was she perfect? No. She was a good mom.
Okay. Like she put a roof over their house, their heads.
Like she, I just felt like something was being really unfair. Yeah.
That's a fair assessment. It's nice that you watched it so closely to really get that.
I didn't even, every time I picked up, it was like something bitching about something else. And I'm like, oh my God, give your mother a break.
Yeah. To me, it was just crazy that she like, can't really talk.
This is always so weird when people do this, when it's like someone who they have a really hard time connecting with emotionally, they need to have a hard conversation 20 years in the making. And like, we're going to do it with cameras in front of us.
Like that is like, that is so weird to me. And I actually felt like she tried to, you know, put her, like have this conversation with her mom, like show how she's so evolved and that her mom is like, you know, so hard and backwards.
And I felt like her mom's responses to everything she said was like, you know, tough, but fair. Like obviously she really is indicative of somebody who grew up in a different time right but like not completely unreasonable definitely you know stoic hard hard but like it wasn't totally what evil like it had expected either yeah it was just like a tough watch yeah and i don't know Maybe it was because the way she lost her dad, which is so tragic.
But it just felt like we were watching a little too much. Like when she went back to the house, I was like, this doesn't need to be filmed.
Yeah. And the two episodes.
Before she even got out of the car, she's like crying. I felt so bad for her.
Like, I don't know. It just, it didn't feel like it was the most productive conversation with her mom.
It didn't feel like a productive trip. She's not even close with Kyle.
Like, I don't know why this whole ordeal had to be filmed. Yeah.
For two episodes. And who knows if it will end after next episode.
And I think that the guy who works for her is really annoying. And the way they treat him is also wrong.
Like, he is not great, but like like he deserves to be spoken to like a human being like a human being so crazy yeah the whole thing was so weird it was so weird and it's also like her and her mom aren't close yet like sutton has a house in her hometown and her mom lives there like that's pretty close and then the whole conversation about how like i guess her mom had really always kind of wanted to be a modern woman who worked but at the time it wasn't possible common and that when Sutton after she got divorced like went on I guess they were talking about her role as a housewife like a real housewife because they said you're like a working woman did she work when she was married the store I know oh and she wants praise for the store and she wants her mom be proud of everything she's done in the store. I'm going to stand with her mom on that.
I didn't realize they were talking about the store. I thought that meant her career was like a celebrity.
They were talking about the store. Oh, the store.
Okay. I didn't get that.
I totally forgot because the store's closed. And the Sutton Green line, which was really reminding me of like, what was it, Fallon Unlimited, when she starts that, what's the green initiative? She does.
Oh, she uses her mom's maiden name. What is it? With the.
Hold on. Actually, I didn't even watch.
No, it's the first season. She starts like her green initiative, Fallon.
Claudia. Carrington.
Green. And then eventually, I don't want to spoil it.
You can. I'm not watching it.
Eventually, CA acquires it. Oh.
Morel Green Energy. Yeah.
Yeah. Like, she just, her wanting praise.
I'm sorry. The the thing is it feels so weird to comment on someone's relationship with their mom like it's so inappropriate who the fuck am I you put it on tv so like yeah I thought she was just being really unfair and mean to her mom yeah and especially to do it on tv is like really odd to me and then in conjunction with just like the story of her dad

and everything her dad did was amazing.

Amazing, amazing.

And my mom sucks.

She gave us fish sticks.

Like it's called dinner.

Yeah.

Yeah, that was, yeah.

I mean, clearly she admits like

that she's something she struggles with.

Like it's.

Yeah.

Maybe she should struggle with it privately.

I agree, but yeah.

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Oh.

Do we even dare?

It's like tearing us apart.

It is.

I'm so over it. Okay, last chance, okay?

I feel like, no, I feel like we should just do it

like every Friday or something.

No, because we-

Like doing it every day.

And did you see yesterday?

I was right.

You and like your sideways heart.

I know.

Okay, so I'm trying to do like a better heart hand,

but I am in the right spot every time.

I don't know that that's true,

but have a great day, everyone.

Love ya.

Bye.