We've Been Framed: Friday, January 31st, 2025

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Good morning, millennials. Welcome back to the Toast and happy Friday, first Friday in the new studio.
I don't know how long like we're going to have to do shows before I stop remarking on the new studio at the beginning of every single episode. Until milestones stop being reached.
Like next week it'll be the first February episode in the new studio. And by the way, it's going to be a while because I cannot wait for my first period.
Oh my gosh, on this couch. In this very feminine space, I feel like it's going to be really hardy.
You're in your feminine. A thousand percent.
I literally, the studio kind of looks like the inside of a vagina like if you were to like you know like some tv shows they're like your vagina on the inside and they like make it look like this very like you know like a fruit right literally us literally us that is so beautiful we are so feminine i do look forward to that milestone for you and like how this chair really accommodates a woman on her period on her time and I guess what like goes against what I believe hmm two paths diverge are you on your period she may or may not be on her period I just like I would love to contribute to this conversation but like it goes against my belief so okay so by the way we would never pressure anybody to go against their beliefs on this chair. Right.
But I'm just saying like it may or may not have already been done and confirmed that it's a pleasant experience. And speaking of unpleasant experiences, yesterday was my official moving day.
I know you guys are like, Trudy, you've been moving out of your old studio for a month. And I have.
But yesterday, like I officially brought like all my old crap to this new pargy place, which is making me sick. Yeah, you took it out of the closet there to put it in the closet here to never see it again, except for if we ever make a Toast Museum and we need all of these old merch pieces.
And that is why Zach has a whole closet full of my old merch. Exactly.
And I can't lie when I tell you. We do it for Toast Museum.
I did absolutely nothing in the move. Like I didn't even meet the movers.
Like they were literally in and out so easy. Classic.
Of course we're a roadway. We are a roadway integrated brand.
It's like my fourth move with roadway. They really were so pargy.
But upon walking into the studio today, I was like, oh, all the old stuff. Like I don't want it.
I only want my new stuff, you know? Yeah. But sometimes.
I was just kind of like I was accosted by like my old life I'm like get out of here yeah but it's think about the herstory no and I've just had like a pit in my stomach about this day for like the last couple of weeks because it's like years and years of all of our stuff acquiring in that studio and you know it was our studio and then I was left to sort of do the move by myself and thankfully I wasn't by myself and I wasn wasn't stressed out. Thanks to Roadway.
Thank you, Roadway, for being there for my sister. And I feel like people, everyone knows Roadway, like it's the go-to moving company, but let me not forget, they moved me across the country too.
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You have big plans for the weekend? It's Friday. It's like kind of because I've been doing so much, I haven't even been able to acknowledge that it's Friday I'm just I'm just busy you know so my big plans for the weekend started like two nights ago when the flu has hit our household and that's what I'll be doing this weekend is bearing down with the flu and getting through so yeah any plans I might have had which thankfully I didn't really have any like we'll just be home chilling relaxing cozy recovering yeah willing so that's what i've been up to that like since we wrapped yesterday i've just been in flulandia i've actually watched a lot of tv if anybody wants like a paw patrol recap oh that kind of tv or uh spidey and his amazing friends recap or a bebefin recap uh i actually don't want a spidey and his amazing friends recap i can't stress that enough And it's really sad and I think maybe this is something you can probably relate to on a deeper level is like you love to see your kids enjoying things, right? And so like when all the kids in our family became obsessed with Spidey, I'm like oh that's so cute.
What a nice hobby. Spidey's a good role model even though him and his friends are never supervised and they're literally six years old.
And the way I've come to fucking hate that group of kids, because you have the books.

If music's playing in your house, it's the album.

And now the TV show.

I really can't stress how I want to kill Peter Parker and his annoying loser friends, Ghost Spider.

And what's the other one's name?

Spin, Miles Morales.

The only one in the characters that I don't despise is Tracy.

Tracy.

Because Tracy, who exists, he's like a tarantula

that lives at the web quarters.

He's their robot.

He's like,

you know,

the spider.

He's a spider.

Yeah,

he's a spider shaped robot.

Oh,

wait,

he's a spider.

Oh man,

am I dumb?

Yeah,

he like,

he's kind of like the tech guy.

He's like the one who's like,

you're in.

Yeah,

he's like,

he's Merlin from Kingsman. When they get older, they'll get that reference.
He's kind of like the tech guy. He's like the one who's like, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop.
You're in. Yeah, he's like Merlin.
They're like, Tracy, help us out of here. He's Merlin from Kingsman.
When they get older, they'll get that reference. He's Riley from National Treasure.
I just rewatched National Treasure over the weekend, Me and Ben. And it's Ben's favorite movie.
And for some reason, anything Ben likes, I automatically is like, okay, ew, that sucks. That also feels right.
My V talks. Yeah, I just assume everything Ben's obsessed with is a piece of shit.

Are your overhead lights on?

No.

Oh, okay, okay, sorry.

You scared me.

Okay, sorry, sorry.

Tech department reared her ugly head, sorry.

So when National Treasure was on cable,

I was like, let's watch it.

I was honestly in the mood to scroll on my phone anyway,

so I was like, sure, yeah.

It was an opportunity for me to be agreeable.

Let me tell you, I was absolutely dazzled by this film.

So much so I was so mad that we watched it on cable

It's a great deal. I was like, sure, yeah.
It was an opportunity for me to be agreeable. Let me tell you, I was absolutely dazzled by this film.
So much so I was so mad that we watched it on cable instead of starting it from the beginning on Disney Plus because then the next night we watched National Treasure 2 on Disney Plus, like no commercials. No commercials and cable takes out bits and bobs.
Yeah, they cut it. Let me tell you that film is amazing.
And one, you're actually learning stuff, you know? You are learning a lot about American history it is stacked cast I mean the leading lady do you know who it is no what's her name Claire Danes now I'm feeling like maybe it's not her I thought it was the girlie who was married to Joshua Jackson Kruger is it not actually it's not. Is it? Is she a national treasure or is it like seriously a lookalike? No, it's her, it's her.
Okay. Yeah, yeah, okay.
Thank God, thank God, thank God. She's great.
She's great. Jon Voight plays his dad.
He's great. And then Angelina's dad.
And then in the first movie, the big villain who like they're fighting against for the Declaration of Independence, Ned Stark. Not Ned Stark.
Being the villain. No, it's stacked.
It is stacked. And it's so good.
It withstands the test of time. Family friendly.
Like if you have a kid who's like into history, like I'm telling you, we are collectively sleeping on the national treasure. No, I feel like the country is not sleeping on it.
I feel good knowing that. Like I feel like it's up there as a national treasure, 100%.
And no, I think when we remark on it culturally, we like make fun of like, I'm going to steal the declaration of independence. And we make fun of like Nicolas Cage.
A part of our DNA as a people. And Nicolas Cage, like he never has to work again because he was national treasure.
Like I feel like he gets his flowers. When finished the second movie we were like okay let's do the third and come to find there's three claudia if there isn't movie okay there isn't and there was like drama around it too i like was doing a brief like research and development mission on google and they were like gonna make it and then nobody wanted to do it and then they were gonna make it into a tv series it was like kind of turn it was cursed so i feel like there was bad interpersonal relationships on the set of national treasure and that gives me a pit you know what you should watch if you want more national treasure vibes i didn't watch the movie but i read the book and i think the movie like is harry potter level of adaptation the da vinci code it's like france's national treasure but it's like art oh you know what that's actually a good recommendation i think that's what you should watch my goal this weekend is to watch the brutalist i don't know how like if anybody like i don't obviously support pirating but if any of our listeners are like sag members who get a screener um but you know sag members are like really really strict about that like we texted josh we were like hey like do you happen to have one of those SAG approved SAG members are really, really strict about that.
We texted Josh. We were like, hey, do you happen to have one of those SAG-approved screeners? Because we just watched the episode of Curb, where Larry's screeners get stolen and pirated on the internet, and he literally goes to prison.
So I was reminded that actors get, back in the day, in the Larry David episode, it was DVDs. But today they get a link.
And we were like, hey, Josh.

How's it going?

How's the fam?

Like he's already an Oppenheimer.

He definitely gets screened.

He literally did not even answer us.

That's how seriously he takes it.

You know he would do anything for men, but not that.

Well, maybe he also knew like you would tell this story on the toast.

Like I watched a brutalist because Josh Peck sent me his ad.

No, by the way, if he had given it to me, I would never have said how I got it.

Of course.

Yeah, but if people were looking into it, it's a pretty clear connection.

It's a straight path to Josh Peck. Well, maybe I would have lied and said like I went to the movies.
Like a little lie like that just to protect Josh's like identity. I agree.
Well, to be clear for any of the Hollywood bigwigs listening, like Josh totally respects the sag system. He didn't even answer his best friend, his brother.
And I still seen the brutalist so so you'll watch the Da Vinci Code it was nominated for movie of the year 15 years ago and I believe it that's classic us and yeah we're just a little behind I don't want it to get like lost in the mix that I read the Da Vinci Code I just want to push that you forth again you did set that kind of scurry past that very interesting fact I did and much like you and Deamer Copperhead Deamer I read it one because it looked good and two because I wanted people to know I was reading it so of course it's been two years but I think we should circle back to that point and I'm glad to let you guys know like it it's really good, it holds up. Speaking of Barbara Kingsolver and the Da Vinci Copperhead, on Jeopardy a couple of days ago, there was a category, like, literary, like, Pulitzer.
Something, like, really. Me and Ben sort of just, like, tuned out.
And the first one was, like, looking for the author of Demon Copperhead. Could you remember her name? Of course I could, Jackie.
I remember every fact of that book because it was my personality for six months.

And I was like, who is Kingsolver?

Was Ben gooped and gagged?

Gooped and like he hit the floor.

He was like, how did you know that?

I'm like, oh, you see that book on the windowsill?

It's literally on my windowsill.

I display it because I'm so proud.

It's right next to Mike The Situation's book.

I said, you see that book over there? Pulitzer, okay? Pulitzer. Did it win the Pulitzer or was it just nominated? No, it won, no.
Oh my God, nothing making up. No, no, no, I don't know.
I'm just asking. Demon Copperhead, Pulitzer.
And then what won the next year like maybe we should do that maybe that's the fiction the fiction prize in 2023 okay what won the fiction pulitzer in 2024 maybe that would be like a good place to start for a book wreck night watch by jane ann phillips a beautifully rendered novel set in west virginia wow they really love the uh what's that region called the Appalachia the great American novel in the aftermath of the Civil War Night Watch it's called yeah night two words yeah night watch am I speaking English I found it sorry it wasn't coming up on goodreads i'll put it on my want to read sure then demon copperhead in 2023 oh demon copperhead was a tie someone else trust by hernan diaz a riveting novel set in a bygone america that explores family wealth and ambition through linked narratives rendered okay seriously that's not even english i don't know it's a book oh wait club this looks good like an unparalleled novel about money power intimacy and perception like aren't we that does sound good that's not how they described it on pulitzer.org um i'm hitting the want to read in 2022 a book called the netanyahu's by joshua cohen oh how scary i know in 2021 the night watchman that's weird yeah they obviously are have like a favoritism i'm just literally scrolling to see if there's a book i do recognize yes 25 2015 all the light we cannot see one of like the most popular holocaust books of all time and then in 2014 the goldfinch that was made into a movie right yes it was those are the ones that I recognize going back to the early 2000s. Yeah.
Okay, well, thank you for that little literary lesson. We're literally like a podcast that talks about Pulitzer Prize winning.
Like, these other bitches could never. These other bitches could never in any given episode.
Pulitzer, sports, fashion. Do you think the Da Vinci Code won a Pulitzer? Like have we both read like two different, I know you also read Demon Copperhead, but.
I don't think Da Vinci Code would have won a Pulitzer. I feel like it was too mainstream, if I may.
Yeah, yeah. I feel like there are commercials for the Da Vinci Code.
Right? It's like Harry Potter winning the Pulitzer, which it could have, maybe should have.

Oh, no.

God forbid, like something popular wins an award.

Well, that's why like Demon Copperhead was popular.

Popular.

You're gonna be popular.

Oh, my God.

I got the funniest email this morning.

Ooh.

It was forwarded to me.

It was a Deer Toaster submission.

I have to read it to you.

Okay.

I know it's like not.

We're just going to like raw dog and Deer Toasters. It's not funny enough for Deer Toasters.
And it's like personal to me. It was a deer toaster submission.
I have to read it to you, okay? I know it's like not deer. We're just going to like raw dog and deer toasters? It's not funny enough for deer toasters, and it's like personal to me.
Oh. Hey, Jackson Turd, long-time listener, first-time writer.
I love you, but I'm writing in with some real beef. I listened to your glowing review of the movie The Substance.
Turd said she'd never seen anything like it, and I took her word for it. Because of this, I decided to watch this on a third date with a guy I really like and he almost vomited at multiple points throughout the experience do I acknowledge the fact that with this potential suitor that he cannot protect me in my time of need or do we just avoid scary movies for the rest of our courtship PS Demi deserves to win the award PSS thanks for warning about the third boob yeah it is a very very um graphic film in terms of like needles and skin and blood.
And I know people do do have like physical reactions to that. But like, honestly, I feel like this is good for you.
Let me reposition because she said she really, really liked him. And it puts you in like in a position of power.
Like now he's feeling like weak and small and embarrassed. And like you have the upper hand.
Yeah. And like you probably got like a ick.
Not enough to, like, stop liking him. It's not his fault.
But, like, you can't even watch a movie without throwing up. Like, what are you, six? So now I feel like you have a little bit, like, of a less of a power imbalance between you and this guy.
Like, you're on equal playing fields now. Yeah, your crush has been tempered a little bit, which is good for you.
And he's, like, wanting to impress you now. And that's it.
You're welcome. Yeah, and that's just a good thing to know about a potential partner.
Like if they are a queasy type. Yeah.
It does bring me back to Dana's birth story. Dana's birth story.
Which will live in infamy in my personal mind till the end of time. Dana's birth story is on the Redheads episode of our October episode.
But just like to cut to the chase, her husband fainted in the delivery room. And he decided to look over behind the curtain of a C-section, which they tell you not to do.
Literally your entire body is open. Right.
Not only did he faint, which is very inconvenient, but like he hit his head on the way down and had to go across the street to the other part of the hospital to get stitches. So he wasn't even with her for like multiple hours after she gave birth.
Dana said that they had to take him from the hospital to the emergency room which is on the other side of the street in an ambulance. That's insane.
It is truly one of the craziest birth stories I've ever heard in my life. So now that you have this like red flag about this boyfriend that you have this is good just like make sure when you're giving birth like he is not near behind the curtain the scene yeah how are the stories today random but good and I think we'll put a nice button on the week oh you know what I've been targeted with a lot of content I actually meant to download and send it to you but I'm so overdoing that I can't like I actually can't stress how over it I am.

But a lot, and I feel like it's so unfair when people do this.

Like when we find out something about someone

and then you go back and watch all their content

through that lens and you're like,

well look, we could have told you.

And it's like all this.

Is this Matt James?

Yes, it's all this old TikTok Reels content

from Matt James and Rachel.

And now knowing what we know about their relationship

and just like how imbalanced it was

and he was kind of like unemotional, maybe like a little mean. If you watch his content, which was supposed to be like at the time fun and playful, nobody thought anything at the time.
Now through that lens, it really is, like I hate to be that person, like it's really, it's bad. Like there was this video I saw this morning of him like pushing her in the pool, fully clothed, fully dressed, like kind of hard.
Okay. I didn't say that.
In front of his mom, in front of his mom and like giggling. It was just like, okay.
I'm of two minds and I haven't watched the video. So maybe if I watch them, I'd have a different opinion.
But just like on its face, here's my issue. Yes, sometimes when you have more information, you can go back and look at things in a different lens and it casts a different light on them.
However, all of this stuff was posted on social media in the last three years. All of you guys were watching it.
Millions of people saw it and nobody once said anything. So now it's like so concerning to you.
Whereas a year ago, he pushed his fully clothed girlfriend into the pool and nobody said for one second, like, hey, that's wrong. Now I didn't see the video then, I didn't see it now.
So this is not my personal problem. But it's not like these are like super old things.
Like everybody's been so now you want to like compile something and make it look a certain way and yes perhaps it is exactly that way I'm holding space for that but I'm also holding space for the fact that this is something that people do you had not seen these videos and they weren't a red flag to you when you saw them so just consider that you could do that with really anything you could I know it's hard not to to get caught up. You could clip this show and find a bunch of moments.
So true. Of us bullying each other and saying that girls hate each other.
Yeah, no, we're like always calling each other fat and ugly. We really are.
Because we are fat and ugly. Well, speak for yourself.
I'm just fat. So I'm just.
Yeah, no, I know what you mean. But it's hard not to get caught, like, swept up in the narrative, like, of, like, making stuff up.
As someone who hasn't watched the videos, I'm not swept up in it. But I could also see myself watching the videos and be like, oh, shit, this is bad.
I take back what I said. Yeah.
But it just does raise the question of, like, why nobody thought those videos were weird in the last three years. Like, you're the same.
You still have eyes. It's on the same platform.
Like, he was posting them. It's not like he was caught out.
Like, this. So I was like videos of him filming her eating and she's obviously like doesn't want to be filmed you can tell she's just like can we eat where was anyone saying any of this when it was happening literally three weeks ago three weeks ago he was no it's it's a factual point she brings up so i'll leave you with that jury's out it's friday which means we also have queenie and ween.
And when I tell you I'm so fucking excited for Queenie and Weenie, mine came to me yesterday and I wrote it down. And you just like, no, you're about to slay.
I was writing it down like, that'll show them. I just want to say, you've really set the bar high for yourself now.
And just to be clear, you in particular are going to love. I'm going to what? Love.
I'm going to like aff? You're going to love. Oh, I'm really excited.
So you're saying the bar will be met. Yeah, I think I'm going to be doing the uneven bars pretty much.
That's what I think. Okay.
I look forward to seeing that. You should.
I do. Good.
Because you will. Okay.
Okay. Well, I guess without further ado to do, would you say it is time? I would.
I would for sure. For the fact, I forgot to move my Rodecaster again, so I still don't know I'm flying blind here.
No, by the way, I can tell you I have the timer. It's time.
Yeah. And you know what? I'm just, I'm going by how I feel.
I'm trusting my body. I'm listening to my body.
Yes. Okay.
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We did watch Moana as well, and I've got to see that scene.

It's fresh as a daisy in my mind.

That's actually one of my least favorite scenes in the film.

What's your favorite scene?

See the light where the sky meets the sea.

It calls me.

That's my favorite scene. I like baby Moana.
She's so cute she's so cute okay our first story is some new couple news ncn kaya gerber has wasted no time and she was spotted out with lewis pullman who plays cal in lessons in. He's like the crazy mad scientist.

Oh, he's from Challengers.

He's from Challengers.

If you've watched Challengers. Oh, wait.

Is he?

Is he?

Sorry, wait.

To me, he's Lessons in Chemistry.

Yeah.

Okay, how are we spelling Lewis?

L-E-W-I-S.

Phenetically.

And how are we spelling Pullman?

The way that it sounds.

Pullman.

Pullman. Pullman.
Oh, I'm sorry. No, that is not from Challengers.
Excuse me. I got confused.
Challengers is the guy who played Prince Charles, young Prince Charles in The Crown. Understood.
I do feel like Louis Pullman was also in The Crown in some way, but we're getting off track from the actual facts. By the way, this is such like a random guy for her to date.
Well, she's now spending time with Louis Pullman. They were spotted hanging out at an L.A.
restaurant. On his birthday, Lewis's father, who was also an actor, Bill Pullman, was also in attendance.
Running Bill Pullman. So many things in that one sentence.
One, he's a fellow Nepo baby. And I feel like on that level, they'll definitely connect.
They'll have a lot in common and to talk about. Two, she's with him on his birthday.
It was his 32nd birthday. So that's kind of serious.
And she's met the father. All of this in literally four weeks since they announced their split.
But let's not forget, her and Austin probably broke up in December, if not before that. I googled the dad.
I don't know him and I don't think you will either. But he's like a very accomplished sort of character actor.
he's done a lot of work for like many years on different TV shows I'm excited for like the Kaya Gerber single girl era this is so unexpected like because even like her choosing Austin Butler like was so obvious I feel like anytime she's been spotted with someone like Pete Davidson she goes for the obvious choices which I kind of hate like I personally find that boring so her going for like this absolute rando kind of obsessed kind of obsessed I'll leave it at that I'm into this as well mostly because I love lessons in chemistry and maybe if he was like a random actor in a similar caliber show that I didn't watch like I wouldn't be as jazzed about this but because I watched lessons in chemistry and it's such a good book and such a good show it was a great show and he plays a really great character I'm just going to like assume that he's very similar to his character. Calvin.

Calvin. And therefore, ergo, I'm going to ship wholeheartedly.
So random, but you know what this just reminded me of? I was scrolling TikTok this morning. I actually saw a bit of tea.
A bit of tea? It was a clip from Watch What Happens Live. Austin Kroll was on.
So it's a story leading into our Southern term recap because you Because you know I didn't miss it. I'll shut my big fat mouth.
Sorry. You know I didn't miss Southern Charm.
No, she never does. I FaceTimed her.
She's like on the couch watching Southern Charm. I'm like, okay.
I could be anywhere in the world anytime. And like if Southern Charm is on, I'm seriously watching with commercials.
But you're not going to be anywhere in the world. Like you're going to be home.
No but like I'm just saying the constant in my life and all different like Southern Charm has been on for a long time I've lived in many different places I've been many different people and I'll always watch it that's absolutely that's beautiful it's a constant really back to Kaia Gerber I I just can't get over like the sheer random nature of this pairing although I'm not mad at it at all I agree if it was like an actor from a show I didn't watch I would seriously be like clowning on this so hard right now but he's a p-jom and I feel like this will be really good for his career he was an excellent actor in that show I haven't seen him in anything else since then so I don't know if it's been like you know maybe lost some of the momentum and this might pick it back up actually knowing that now his dad is just a working successful actor makes me feel like he's got things figured out like career pathwise like he doesn't have to be Austin Butler and no everybody knows my name it's like no I'm gonna work and I just love the I'm gonna make a living and I don't need to be the most famous person on the planet right he was also in Top Gun Maverick so that's good yeah he was obviously or Bill? Lewis. Let me look that right up.
I think he's at the beginning of a blossoming career. I would hope so.
I really do. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's like the nerdy one who takes off his glasses and everybody realizes he's handsome. Yeah.
Oh, that's cute. Okay, so you know what? He's on his way.
And I feel like he's actually the opposite of Austin in the sense of like, Austin was all glitz and glam. Like the roles, even though he was in like three major pictures, like the roles weren't there.
Lewis is not glitz and glam, but like the roles are there, I feel. Yeah.
The work ethic. I think what's more insulting than like your ex of many years going on to date someone so polar opposite of you.
Like I think a lot of like girls and guys have a type and they end up dating people who are all kind of like different versions of the same person, whether that's looks wise or personality wise, career wise. So for her to pull like a complete like three point turn and go to this absolute random like dude.
Yeah. I wonder like what does that say about Austin? I could see her and you planted this in my mind and I will blame you for it forever because it totally changed the way that I looked at Austin Butler because you were like and you said it when you said it like you had like insider information but I think tell me what I said and I'll let you know where I got it from that he's just like a really thirsty social climber and like part of his relationship with Kaya is that obviously he likes her what's not to like but she is you know from a Hollywood royalty family and he's like constantly climbing the ladder from like using these women, Vanessa and Kaya is that obviously he likes her.
What's not to like? But she is, you know, from a Hollywood royalty family. And he's like constantly climbing the ladder from like using these women, Vanessa and Kaya, like using them to leverage his own career.
I like I don't know where I got that idea, but I agree with it. And I also feel like I got that idea from you.
Like, I feel like we fed off of each other. No, you totally brought it up.
We have to go find the episode. It's live on the podcast.
I had no idea what you were talking about. And ever since then, I just see him like that.
It was such a good call. I could totally see him being that way.
And I feel like how he treated Vanessa Ann is actually. No, I, yeah, maybe, I think it just tracks.
Like he was with Vanessa Ann for 10 years. And then he, what, like, got, I don't even know why they broke up and then he's like super successful and dating like the hottest young model because like that's the that's been his trajectory that's why I think that yeah by the way I'm not mad at you I completely agree so having said that I can see Kaya like maybe over the course of their relationship like kind of like like she was like starting to get like onto him you know and now she just wants to be so different than that because this guy lewis pullman i don't know him per se but he just doesn't give thirsty social climber vibes yeah um and i like that for kaya i do i do as well plus don't forget she's a nerd right she has a book club she reads she actually does like read a lot for real um but she also wants you to know like she's not just a model she is a nerd too what is it with these like six foot tall gazelles who are beautiful born into wealth and fame who are just like desperate for us to know that they are also nerds like kendall jenner of course kaya gerber comes to mind and they're always in every interview i'm actually and now they don't say it so much anymore because it's become like a cliche people used to call it out and it became like a whole trend that's how the whole internet not like other girls things started carly gloss yeah like i'm a nerd like i like computers and then kettle's like no no me and my friends like we are nerds like we just love to paint and kaya's like uh on a saturday night like i'm kind of a nerd Like you'll probably catch me like cozying up with a good book.

I don't know what that is.

And even though that is, it's probably true.

Like, okay, you're reading,

like you're not a nerd.

Not only that.

You're not a nerd.

I don't find that admirable.

Like if I'm Kaya Gerber,

if I'm Kendall Jenner,

if I'm Karlie Kloss,

if I'm born either like so perfect looking

or into like a perfect family,

like with wealth and fame,

like I'm a lot of things.

I'm not becoming a nerd. Like you couldn't drag me back to nerd time.
Like I'm becoming a coke whore. I'm becoming like a sexy slut.
I'm doing all of the things that like only girls who look like that can get away with. Like, please, there are like, we are good.
The nerd community is good. Like go do you.
Are you a nerd? No. Because you said we are.
I was speaking on behalf of a community that I like but no I don't identify with yeah I don't identify as a nerd and I've never felt like called to no and I do feel bad for like nerds because I think the word has become like cringe yeah yeah are you ready for our next story are you ready for our next story it's. Are you ready for our next story?

It's actually a follow-up to yesterday's story

because Chiara Faragni is in the news

for two major reasons.

I meant to tell you about this to bring it up as a story.

As we were talking about her business issues yesterday,

her Instagram stories must have been expiring

where she went in on the fact

that she's no longer with Fidesz

and what happened between them.

So we were right to say that, like, there was something going on. And yesterday she literally just told us everything.
Because there's also like an Italian podcaster slash journalist who has been like exposing this, like doing episodes. I don't know if it's like in conjunction with Chiara, but exposing Fidesz and what he's done.
Yes. So on Wednesday, January 29th, she decided to break her silence and open up like never before through her Instagram.
In a series of four Instagram stories she shared what she went through during her seven-year marriage with Ferez admitting that she tolerated quote disrespect and justified wrong behavior in the name of love. For months I chose to stay silent to protect myself and my family from two situations that have deeply affected me but I can't keep quiet anymore.
I spent seven years in a relationship where I wrong behavior to protect him, to protect our family, to protect our relationship.

Because I always saw myself as the strong one, the independent one, the one who had to hold it all together.

She also admitted that she chose to stay silent to avoid the public fallout that the situation could cause what shocked people the most was the confirmation that Fidesz had been in an extramarital relationship for six of the seven years that they were married she said he was talking to the girl on his wedding day yep he was asking the girl to. A reason to leave.
Yeah. She said, I felt sick when I realized everything I had lived was a complete lie, but I suffered in silence.
I stayed quiet because I wanted to move forward without focusing on the pain I had been through. And because I have two children who will one day hear about everything their parents say about each other and certain things will hurt them.
But deciding together with his friend to make even more details public, probably as revenge for his mistress's unrequited love, was truly a low blow. So apparently he called his mistress just before walking down the aisle with Chiara and asked his mistress to like give him any sort of like tell him to run away and be with him forever and she didn't.
And so he went through marrying Chiara because also he didn't know how to kind of like call it all off. As you said yesterday yesterday like their marriage and their wedding was the biggest story it globally but especially in Italy like they are like a I'm trying to think of like who a comparison they're kind of like a Ben and Turdy like of like Italian royalty people fucking die for them he's like this rapper obviously we don't know any work, but in Italy, he's like a huge people think he's so hot.
They love his music. And she's just like boss babe, bitch.
I understand like the pressure of being like that perfect couple, but there's so many layers to this that are probably so deeply painful for Chiara. Like one, obviously that the entirety of your marriage, like to have any sort of infidelity is devastating.
But from the time that you got married, like from the day that it's been going on, like that's really devastating. But then also sort of coming to terms with the fact that you got married because of the unrequited nature of that affair.
It's like your man's mistress didn't even want him. Right.
It like he chose you it's just he had nowhere else to go right like by default like that's a terrible feeling I imagine yeah and what a piece of shit piece of shit I don't it's I didn't really know him before just from like the background of Kiara's stories but their their whole life seems like a seemed like a fairy tale you know and it's just it's that old adage but like it just always rings more and more true it's like you never know what is going on between two people so before you like start to envy or compare yourself or think like oh we don't look at as in love as they do and like we don't get to do things just don't even because you never ever know like this is worse than anything than like that you might have thought was off between them. Like literally on his wedding day.
He's talking to his mistress. And he continues to have a six year.
They have two kids. And he has a girlfriend.
It's so corny. But it really is the takeaway here.
Because I'm sure there are people who watch them. And just like we're filled with envy.
For that type of love and life. And marriage and family.
And all the nice houses. to be honest like you know you can there aren't enough knife enough nice houses to keep someone in a marriage like that like for real yeah and I guess she's only speaking out now because he has shared stuff that has like embarrassed her that's what she said in her post because I understand why she I mean she seems like the tough to the type to just like tough it tough it out do it for her.
And then even when they break up to not say anything like for her kids. But this is like they're so far gone in terms of like keeping the veil over themselves.
No, and this is something I personally struggle with. And maybe like I'll understand it more or feel differently like when I'm blessed one day with a child.
But like I get so mad when people are like protecting their, like it's, he's the father of my child. I don't give a fuck.
He's a dick. Like everybody needs to know in celebrity world.
Yes. I feel like there, there's different things.
Like there are just people who split up because they're growing apart. They don't get along.
They don't respect each other. They can't communicate.
And there's slights here and there. And then like those people usually don't go and tell every every fight that they ever had with their husband because that's just like personal people's business but then there are things that are so egregious that that are going to come out anyway that it's better for you to live in like it's out there you know yeah and for you to just be able to like move on from it so I understand if she never wanted to mention it but I think that you know that chip has sailed in terms of like keeping the lid on it yeah and when it's just like typical irreconcilable differences or whatever like no we don't need to know I know you want to know the business but like we can guess like you guys just don't like each other anymore if it's boring like sure but when there's like I'm sure everyone's like fights are drama, but it's like standard.

Yeah. Like you guys just don't like each other anymore.
No, if it's boring, like sure. But when there's like big drama.
I'm sure everyone's like fights are drama,

but it's like standard.

Yeah.

You know?

This is just like so fucking crazy.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Because I think anybody,

but they were like two people who were really individually famous,

but together as a couple,

that's also hard.

Like when you get more attention as a couple, so you want to stay together more, but the relationship's not not working out but you don't want to give up all the opportunity and there are two people who were like definitely both individually really famous but like somebody who lives in a different country like I heard about them so much as a couple more as a couple than ever individually yeah they remind me a little bit of Molly Mae and Tommy except they're even bigger because they came from two different worlds and fused together like a rock star and Italy's number one influencer, like bar none. Molly and Tommy came up together, really.
So their fans were always the same, but you had like these two huge fan bases for Chiara. But it is the perfect comparison.
Yeah. Yeah.
And then when they break up, except for Molly and Tommy, I think most of the time it was a fairy tale. And that's what she was saying.
It's not like they weren't in love. It's not like there was infidelity.
It was just big smoke and mirrors, like, the whole time. There was just other stuff going on, and I think they will end up back together if they're not already, which it seems as though they are.
So it's not totally comparable, but yeah, this is really shocking and really sad, and she seems so tough. Also, I remember, like, her before this, which was like long-term and serious.
And he was like her business partner, I think. And he like totally stole her business.
Like she was like fighting for years to get her like name back. The blonde salad, Kiara, like in litigation for years.
Like every relationship has been a nightmare for this girl. Oh my God, that's so strange.
Yeah. yeah well it's just important to remember that key takeaway here like especially when it comes to like internet stuff and nothing is what it seems right don't compare yourself to other people really really it's true yeah your life is fab yeah it's yours just the way you are are you ready for our next story number three yeah yeah because it is some grammys news this is our last episode before the grammys woohoo oh right what are they on sunday they are on sunday and we have performers and presenters and notably tailored is presenting at the grammys so that has everyone in a tizzy which like isn't crazy but it's more so a confirmation of her attendance which you know she does usually go especially when she's nominated for album of the year but who knows these days like what she's up to with the super bowl right but i think she could pop into the grammys and i think she'll give out album of the year because she won last year that feels right she can't give it out she's nominated what is she nominated for give tortured poets are you I thought she won for tortured poets last year.
That feels right. She can't give it out.
She's nominated. What is she nominated for?

Tortured Poets?

Are you okay?

I thought she won for Tortured Poets last year.

Did she win for Album of the Year last year?

For Midnight's?

Yeah.

Yes, she's won for Midnight's. She won for...

The last year she won for Midnight's.

Was that last year?

Yeah.

Sorry, that's why I'm like,

she's wearing her Tortured Poets dress

and she won Album of the Year.

I just assumed.

Oh my God, so maybe she won't announce.

No, she won't announce Album of the Year.

Oh, so she'll just announce like Joe Schmo whatever. Yeah.
Like probably new artist to Sabrina. That's probably the only category she's not nominated for this year.
Right. 2024 winner was, let me just make sure I'm saying this correct.
Yeah. Taylor Swift.
Yeah. crazy that she releases like like an album a year now yeah okay so this is the year of the stacked album of the year because yes brat short and sweet um taylor torture poets beyonce cowboy carter yep so that will be interesting and then here are the performers okay and then also do you Travis is is going like the timeline does line up because it is a bye week it's the pro bowl so people who play in the super bowl are not playing a game although I imagine you're under rigorous training and practice schedules I I would love to see him I don't think he's going and I don't think he should go I think like for the team like these two weeks before the super bowl like we are drilled in it's true and it just like sends a bad message and message I don't think and I also I I feel like for the team, like these two weeks before the Super Bowl, like we are drilled in.
It's true. And it just like sends a bad message.
Message. I don't think, and I also, I feel like there have been other times where it's like Taylor's big night and Travis should be her side.
And for their first red carpet appearance, I don't think this one is it. What would it be? Watch.
And then, I mean like not that they were ready then, but like the Errors tour movies sort of thing. Yeah, like her own project.
Yeah.

Even last Grammys, it felt more palpable that they could show up together. This just, he's literally playing in the Super Bowl the following week.
I would actually like, I would find it weird if he goes. Okay, okay.
And like, I feel like because I'm being so adamant about it, he's gonna go. They're gonna go, yeah.
So you're welcome. um performers billy eilish chapel roan sabrina can't wait to see her up there shaking that thing charlie xcx that'll be interesting to see how she stacks up comparatively yeah yeah it will i don't know why i just feel like the whole brat era is like now I'm like a conspiracy theorist.
You've been soured on Brat.

No, not soured.

But because I think like some of the songs are definitely good.

But I feel like it was overhyped like in my like not even in my mind.

Like somebody overhyped it to me.

Yeah.

And I don't even know like what kind of performer is she?

Well, I saw her perform on SNL and it was really terrible.

So I hope she's doing something else. Cool.
Switching stevie wonder classic obsessed shakira go off oh baby when you talk like that john legend okay cynthia arrivo obsessed she doesn't send me from wicked i don't know i'm sure i could like maybe because wicked maybe is nominated for soundtrack or something but grammy's doesn't do anything movies like i know but they should do sound like movie song i feel like cynthia revo could be tapped to do like either during the in memoriam they always just need someone with a party voice yeah or if they're gonna do um like a tribute to somebody who passed away this year yeah they just are always are always tapping like true talents for that. Yeah.
Chris Martin and Coldplay. Okay.
So Coldplay. Why do they say it like that? What is he special? Because they just like were showing pictures of each celebrity.
And so like they wanted to show Chris Martin. Sorry.
Janelle Monae. Okay.
Benson Boone. Oh, he's good.
He is, but I have to say something.

What?

That song is really good.

So if you don't know who Benson Boone is, it's totally normal.

But you probably do know the song.

These beautiful things that I got.

Please.

And so it's a really good song.

And it was having a huge year.

OK, now maybe I take back what I'm going to say.

Never mind.

OK.

Because you don't stand by it or because you just don't want to go well because someone would say well claudia you don't feel that way like about shibuzi because if somebody if you said shibuzi was performing at the grammys this year i'm like good he showed you at the song of the year but it's like this benson character is just everywhere like everything and you have one song oh it's the same like i feel about dasha but for some reason when it's shibuzy it doesn't bother me. Oh Dasha.
Dasha is did your boots stop breaking? So I feel like maybe Shibuzy doesn't bother you because I can confirm like he has a whole album full of bops and like he is that guy. And by the way I'm sure that these other people like have other like songs on their album that I just don't know and I don't think a lot of people know.
Like I dare one person to name another Dasha song besides Austin and same for Benson Boone and I'm sure most people couldn't name another Shabuzzi song honestly so Benson Boone going all these places because he has one song doesn't bother me because I feel like I've heard some of his other stuff just like on shuffle and he's just like really talented and and I wish good things for him other people who have one song and it's just the one song over and over again I just don't feel like they have a second act coming up it's annoying so I agree with that so that's how I feel about Benson Boone but like Benson Boone is filling the Lewis Capaldi shaped hole in your heart do you listen to that tiktoker Alex Warren I think his name is carry you home yeah so he is like an OG hype house member he was like a part of a couple that was like a TikTok-y couple. I think they're married now.
And he started releasing music

and everyone's like,

okay, good luck with your little project.

And he has released such amazing music

and he's getting so much hype.

I think his songs do incredibly well.

He just did a,

he released another version

of one of his popular songs

and Joe Jonas is on it.

Like he's really making waves

and he is a very,

not only does he sound like Lewis Cabaldi,

he looks like him too.

Let me tell you,

I didn't know any of that backstory about him, that he's a TikToker or anything. I listened to his music because it comes up on my Spotify because that's the kind of music I like.
And he's up there with Benson Boone. Like to me, they're the same person in terms of like where they came from, which is just Spotify release.
Jackie, did you ever watch the Hype House Netflix show? I think, I believe he's a character on it, him and his girlfriend. Shockingly, I know this is going to really surprise everyone.
You didn't watch it? I never watched the Netflix Hype House show. Oh, you were missing out.
That was so good. But okay, so you really don't know him.
But I'm glad to know that, I'm actually glad that I was introduced to him without knowing that because like to me, he's just a serious artist. Do you know this song? You knew the house was burning down i had to get out that's also the one joe jonas hopped on you will love a margo really put me on margo started streaming him i'm like margo are you really streaming that tiktoker guy she was at claudia the music stands out like it stands on its own no i was like okay he has made it to my liked songs i can't believe that you like know him not even having anything to do with TikTok.
That's crazy. Literally like five songs a month make it to my liked songs.
And I listen to my liked songs. Yeah, Headlights.
Yeah. That's on my liked songs.
Is there one that's called like The House Was Burning Down or something? I'll find it. It's not on my liked songs, but maybe I should add it.
I will add it. No, you should add it.
It's a really pargy song. It is called Burning Down.
That's the one. And Burning Down with Joe Jonas.
Ooh, which way do I go? Go with the OG first and then you'll dip your toe into the special effects. Okay, sounds good.
Oh, did you see Rascal Flatts' Jonas Brothers Q Lab drop today? I did. I was about to listen to it, but I was listening to the new Morgan Wallen song that dropped and then I got distracted.
But then this conversation reminded me, Rascal Flatts. It's kind of a good season of music right now.
Yeah, I know. I'm really excited.
I have high hopes for this Rascal Flatts collab. I haven't listened to it yet, but if it's bad, like I'll be pissed.
I'll just blame the Jonas Brothers. So it's fine.
That's actually like a really kind of foolproof plan. Right? Like.
Yep. It's not Rascal's fault.
No, if it's great, like Rascal. That's for damn sure.
Rascal gets the credit, but if it's bad, blame the Jonas Brothers. A thousand percent.
Do you want to know more Grammys performers? Oh, I thought we were done. Sorry.
Yeah. No.
I'll go quickly. Dochi, Teddy Swims, Jacob Collier,ob collier brad paisley ray okay we could have stopped when laney wilson cheryl crow saint vincent britney howard herbie hancock great i'm sure some of them will be like doing something together but that's a lot of performers yeah yeah like not that many exciting ones actually i agree done yeah it all comes out in the wash.
We're left with like Cynthia Erivo. Sabrina.
And Sabrina. Hearts up for Sabrina.
And maybe there will be a surprise performer like Beyonce or something. You know? I feel like that could happen.
I actually, I wouldn't count on it. Or tailored.
I wonder if Beyonce's going to go. Why wouldn't Taylor perform? She like doesn't really.

The last time she performed

was the Folklore Willow era,

which was like one of her most iconic performances

of all time.

But she, like that, she doesn't,

she's, when she's nominated,

she's pretty much guaranteed to show up.

She usually shows up, but not perform.

Okay.

And I don't think Beyonce will perform either,

only because I think like odds wise, I don't think she has a high likelihood of taking home a lot of awards this year. Like I don't think Beyonce will perform either, only because I think, like, odds-wise, I don't think she has a high likelihood of taking home a lot of awards this year.
Like, I don't think it's her year. I was actually just reading an article about Beyonce and Album of the Year, and, like, all the times that she was nominated and didn't win.
And in there is, like, one true snub that she should have won that year. I Am Sasha Fierce? The, um, no, I think it was called Beyonce.
It was, like, the album and it was the year that Beck won. And like, I'm sorry, who is Beck in this world? Like not to offend everyone.
I actually remember like being socially conscious for that year where Beck won over Beyonce and the internet was so mad. And it was like, we'll see in five years, like if anybody knows who Beck is.
And we don't. No, and like, I'm sure the internet was mad.
And at the time. Like I'm sure Beck's album like was really good, but like those Beyonce, like that was a more prevalent album and carried on.
But then the other time she lost was to Taylor Swift Fearless, which like Adele. Withstood the test of time.
Adele 25. Withstood the test of time.
And then what was the other one? Or maybe it was just three. And no, but it's not even so much about the album.
It's about the other nominees too. Yeah.
Yeah. And like the other two times that she should have won, like it was just stack categories.
This year is also a stack category. And I don't think Cowboy Carter is even as album of the year worthy as I am Sasha Fierce lemonade or Beyonce was.

Yeah, I agree.

I don't think it's her year.

So I don't even know if she's confirmed to show up and I don't think she's going to perform.

She's like, I'm not going to waste my talent on you bitches.

But you don't think that they might give her album of the year because like Jay-Z like

read them to filth in his speech last year?

No, I don't think they would want to like indulge that behavior.

Also, who is Jay-Z in this world in this moment?

Like his social cachet has gone down severely since he was accused, just accused of allegedly, you know, assaulting a 13 year old. So like personally, I don't negotiate with people like that, you know? Yeah.
I just feel like, I don't know. I feel like they might want to just finally give it to her.
And then here she is nominated. Even though this wouldn't be the year.
No, it's, there's too many. Chapel chapel sabrina there's too many in that category and for me it's sabrina 1000 i actually had a dream about sabrina last night i was listening to short and sweet in my head and while i slept more than tortured poets for you no like tortured poets so for you it's tortured poets yeah and i actually do think she'll win okay well we'll see on sund Sunday and we'll see on Monday.
Because I didn't think Midnight's was going to win. And if she didn't, like, I wasn't going to riot, you know? Like, it was a stacked year last year.
Like, I think that this year, like, is a year I would riot. You know, if you're, if, like, on the scale of rioting, I would riot.
Yeah. There would be a riot.
Breaking out my heart, I try to fight it. I could go out every night, but I'd be lying.
And that's what we said. Rascal Flatts has never made a bad song.
So if the collab is bad, like Jackie said, it's the Jonas Brothers fault. Blame Kevin.
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Okay, our fourth story just got swapped in because new has emerged. Breaking news? It's not breaking news.
But basically, Reese Witherspoon was just talking about, she was saying how she lost a dear Hollywood friend because she made a speech at an awards show that was a bit bawdy. What's bawdy mean? Like inappropriate and risque.
Ris risque risque and now this person doesn't talk to her anymore so i was like like without knowing who that is that is so it's an uninteresting story knowing what the speech is like whatever so the a-list actress who doesn't talk to reese witherspoon anymore has seemingly been identified including the speech that she made speech let me guess let me guess let me guess I don't know how you could guess Selma Blair no and it's kind and the speech is from a while ago so like before you're before like we were paying attention earlier this week Reese Witherspoon said in an interview that a fellow Hollywood star allegedly ended their friendship after she called out their idea to get laser hair removal while presenting her with an award for the sake of privacy Reese refused to name drop the actress during the candid chat however after some sleuthing just Jared has reported that the thank you Jakey Jared thank you Jared the mysterious celebrity Reese was referring to was Kate Winslet so during the 2007 BAFTA LA Cunard Britannia Awards classic How did I miss that? Reese presented Kate Winslet with the prestigious Artist of the Year Award. So Kate had asked her to do the speech to present the award to her.
Oh, so they were really tight. Like you ask someone you're like low-key fucking with to do that.
Right. While standing in front of an audience to present the star, Reese kicked off her speech by saying, I always to be a European movie star wear giant sunglasses elaborate neck scarves smoke hand rolled cigarettes and have savoir faire and gravitas imagine my good fortune when Kate Winslet moved into my neighborhood rang my doorbell and said darling Sam is off shooting and I believe our children are the same age could they possibly have a play date and oh by the way it's almost nine o'clock and I've had nothing to drink.
Do you have any wine? During her speech, Reese praised Kate Winslet for her fearlessness. However, she also called her out for peeing all over herself in front of Harvey Keitel in Holy Smoke.
She further pointed out that she wanted to tell more of their stories but couldn't because they were too bawdy or toddy or drunken to tell, including the time they contemplated laser hair removal. The revelation comes just one day after Reese called losing a friend for roasting her in a speech while presenting her with award Reese said this literally haunts her to this day she said so this friend of mine who I didn't really know that well but she was a very serious proper actress she asked me to give her an award because Reese had never been to that particular award ceremony she thought it was like a roast so I got up and I roasted her before pointing out that the tone of the gala was British and elegant and classy.
Oh my God. Okay, because at first I was like, oh, so lame of Kate Winslet.
And then the more you told the story, I'm like, wait, Reese Witherspoon is the villain in this story? Like, that's really inappropriate. And so the fact that she looks back on it now with the self-awareness to be like, no, I was wrong for that.
I'm glad she wasn't like trying to throw Kate Winslet under the bus. She's throwing herself under the bus.
And that's really funny. And I would love for these two to reconnect.
Like obviously Reese knows what she did wrong. She has listened and learned.
I just went on such a journey while I'm listening. I'm like, how am I going to defend Reese? Like she sounds like a bitch.
No, I feel like she, what is this? 15 years on has realized like she was wrong it literally gives her a pit like sometimes you just like misread a situation you do the wrong thing like people i feel like that happens a lot at like weddings you know if you're asked to give a speech about someone and sometimes people like bring up inappropriate stuff and like they just like misread it and i know sometimes like that stuff kills and there is a line but it's so hard to know where that line is so I feel like this is a very actually relatable thing of like making a speech for someone and they did not like and if you didn't have like the strongest relationship beforehand like I wouldn't want to be friends why bother pursuing yeah I but I um I do like this little window into how these two became friends yeah like literally just literally just knocking on your door, being like we have kids the same age.

Like obviously they knew who each other was like on a professional basis.

Like to be famous and wealthy, you know?

Yeah.

But then you have like at least with you, if it's you're talking at your friend's wedding and you fuck up, like, OK, it happened.

Right.

This.

I need to see this speech for sure.

Like see Kate's reaction when she walks up. Yeah.
But the thing that she said before the armpit thing was worse. Peeing herself.
Oh, peeing. Right.
Yeah. And just like talking about all the drunken antics.
Yeah. I would also stop being friends with that person for what it's worth.
Like on a global, on a global stage. I think I would too, especially if it was a new friend.
I'd be like, oh, this person can't be trusted. obviously have like bad instincts and yeah they don't know like what's for the private especially like when you're a public person like a lot of things probably need to be kept for the private and you need somebody who's gut instinct like knows when to talk and when to shut up so I'm sure that was like a learning moment for Reese I have no ill will against Reese for this like I I feel sympathy for her um sometimes you have to learn a lesson the hard way yeah I agree and she's a better woman now because of this yeah so funny I'm glad we figured out who it was me too because these like stories where we're all just like endlessly guessing and there's no way to know who it truly is like I find boring but the James Van Der Beek story that last week we pretty much figured out and now kate winslet love no and

without knowing who the celebrity was and what the speech was we would have been like oh who in hollywood has a stick up their butt that they didn't like reese witherspoon's speech yeah our fifth and final story leading into our tv recap is austin Ooh, yeah.

Is Austin Kroll revealing his thoughts on the rumors that Paige is with another guy so Austin and Patricia were on watch what happens live last night and they were asked a lot about the breakup Austin confirmed that Paige has allegedly moved on with another guy when a caller asked what he thinks about the rumors that she's with this guy. And he said, I don't think that those are rumors.
I think that they've been substantiated. He confirmed that Craig knows as such.
And he explained, you know, he didn't for a minute, but yeah, I think he's fully come to terms with that, that that's not a rumor. And then Andy was like, wow, okay.
Meanwhile, Paige then commented on an Instagram video of this moment saying, ah, yes, a man I haven't spoken to in six months knows exactly what I'm doing.

Right. So at first I was like, oh, this clip is sad.

Like because I actually don't know if Paige has moved on.

There was like a lot of hoopla around that Eagles game, but she hasn't it's not official.

And there was like so many fake rumors about her with Marcello.

So like seriously, I don't know.

Like I genuinely don't know.

But I was just like, OK, maybe she is seeing that guy.

Yeah. And and then Austin being like, yeah, we've kind of like come to terms with the fact that like it's not a rumor like she's just dating someone and that's hard and we're like figuring it out and he was kind of speaking on behalf of Craig and I was like oh sad and then I was just like scrolling the comments on TikTok this morning and I saw Paige at the top I was like oh shit so is that her saying she's not dating anyone I think it's just her saying I'm sure there's like a more to this story whether it was like a first date I feel like also maybe Austin is trying to make it seem like she's has a boyfriend which she probably doesn't and I feel like there's just always more color that can be added so like him speaking on something about a person that he doesn't talk to yeah and hasn't spoken to like what do you really know and that's annoying like for page if she hasn't spoken out about her dating life and like this like her ex's like random friend who she's not friends with like talking about it's like stop and who she's always had beef with because of sierra and even right even this season of southern charm craig and page are together and craig is having beef with austin every time Paige is there, she's like telling Craig, like, just cut this guy out.
Like, you know, move on with the podcast. Like, obviously they didn't even get along in good times.
So for him to be the one speaking on her in bad times, it's like, you don't, what do you know? No, she's right for that. Yeah.
I agree with that. And a little bit of Southern Charm recap.
So last night the boys are reuniting this season is really centered on austin and craig the girls are fighting but they have this podcast pillows and beer they do it twice a week and it's like based on their friendship but they're not really friends right now because craig just kind of wants to like sit home and knit and be in his backyard and settle down buddy where you at and it's it's hard to call it because now knowing that Paige and Craig have broken up and I feel like in the season Craig is making a lot of these decisions because he's in this serious relationship with Paige and he doesn't go out because like he spends his time with Paige or at home they're the right decisions for him in that moment right and now and now I think viewers are quick to say well oh he was doing all that because all that because of Paige. And now that they're broken up, he was wrong.

And like, I don't think he's wrong for wanting to be in a more mature phase of his life.

Like the way that the men on Southern Charm live and act.

The man?

Men.

You said man.

I think I said men.

It was giving woman.

I'll have to watch that back.

Yeah, thank God we're recording.

Yeah, that's like Cody Simpson performing at the the cma's which i'm still waiting for the way that the men on southern charm live and act is not something that should be modeled whatsoever so if craig wants to like break free from that mold in a very serious way i am so supportive of it like they seriously need to grow up so i don't think it's fair to just be like well now I'm sure Craig's crawling back to his friends like he's allowed to want to live like a more serious lifestyle take his work seriously and whatnot um but Austin is just you know casual buddy looking for his friends and I just feel like they need to make up like this is stupid Craig offered to pay him $30,000 to leave the podcast and like give it to him Wait who austin offered craig or craig offered austin because getting just to basically like buy the rights yeah because it's been hard to like do the podcast together when they're not friends and the show is about their friendship he said like austin always just shows up like hungover craig does all the like work for it anyway so can you just like give it okay it's giving sophia and alex like yeah it really is except their guys and like just the things that just like roll off their back like literally once one minute they are laughing and the next minute they are fighting and also like crying about their hurt feelings it's it's shocking um i hope that they work it out though like i like their all of their friendships but they do need to find their new normal and maybe that does change again now that craig is single but still he doesn he doesn't want to be getting the bars. Well, it sounds like based on Austin and Watch What Happens Live, like, it sounds like they're, like, close again.
Yeah, which is nice. He'll need his friends now.
But I don't want Craig to revert to that lifestyle. I don't think so.
But Austin's now in a serious relationship. So.
Good. Yeah.
Then the other crazy thing that happened is JT. I've been telling you, like, is just a ticking time on this show.
Yeah. And I just also learned that he put out an Instagram story statement saying that he has left the show in post-production.
Oh, so you know something bad is coming. Because he said they wanted to do more like on-camera interviews.
He said he's filmed already like 10 this season and he won't be doing the rest and he is leaving the show this season has been like really bad for JT self like he just comes up looking so bad and like one thing that he always had he has this like blossoming relationship with Vanita and they're like really cute and they go shopping and she texts his mom and they like get along friendship or like friendship that is flirtatious so like okay it looks like it's headed somewhere and so last night on the episode she like invites him over for dinner cooks for him she's about like gonna tell him how she feels she's like when I like someone like I want to I want to tell them how I feel and like make it really easy for them like here's yep this is like here's a brand Zeno I like you like let's let's show mature and even last on last week's episode they had like this weird conversation when JT stormed out of the party and he's like saying that like oh Vanita I love you and like it was just like are you guys about to kiss that's literally how I felt are you guys about to kiss so then like this week they're about to talk about their feelings and she like says that she likes him and he says I'm seeing someone that's weird weird that you would flirt with like Vanita and make her feel this way when you're seeing someone that Vanita Vanita said that she knew that he was talking to someone but not that it was like in a stage where the door was serious and now it just feels like so clear that he was kind of like using vanita she's the last person on the show who like really had a soft spot for him and i feel like he was flirting with her and just like being really yeah because i'm sorry like as evolved as we are like two straight different gendered people becoming best friends like is not normal yeah and they're like new friends too it's not like you're like brother and sister from growing up so they're being like romantic undertones is very like normal and real and him pretending like what i hate yeah and then it was just it's also weird for his new relationship because it was like vanita was like if i was the other girl and he's been talking to me the way that he is and that he's even sitting on my couch having a conversation and JT is saying like I do like like you and I feel the chemistry but I'm seeing someone it's like even saying that to someone when you're seeing someone like he's not all around he's burn bridges with Madison with Austin now Craig Sally Taylor at a certain point, how could he even be on this show? Like he has no friends left. Yeah.
It was just like, if more people watch Southern Charm, he would be my weenie of the week because it was the biggest weenie moment. It was so, it was so crazy.
Like you really thought they were about to kiss on the couch. And I was like, but you made fish.
I said for for Vanita it was no I'm I'm happy for her because she's seriously as dodgy bullet yeah well for sure anyways that's what's new in Charleston and I'm telling you things between Molly and Shep continue to bubble so after you said that last week a lot of people in the comments and like on our pages were commenting that they echoed your statement like it's like this obvious thing you're not the only one who sees it right so they flashed back to last week when they were watching molly's concert on her tuba one of the cast members like said to sorry that i can't remember his name he's always on the show and like i just can't remember sorry um he said sorry to this man he told shep that molly had told him that he has feelings that she has feelings for shep but like in a sweet way and like she was like oh okay and then this week things are starting to go south with Shep and his 26 year old Bahamian model girlfriend because not only did she like ghost him for three days but Patricia by the way growing up is having a newfound appreciation for Patricia. Patricia told Madison that before Sierra started dating Shep, she was hitting up Whitney.

Oh.

Although I don't really trust any information that comes from Whitney.

I think he's the devil.

I don't.

No, but the thing is, Whitney and Patricia was like, Whitney will kill me that I said this because I told Whitney, you have to tell Shep.

And Whitney was like, no, no, no. Whitney actually doesn't want to be in the drama anymore, like, for real.
But then Patricia just had to share this. But I think it's becoming clear that Sierra really wanted to be on the show.
Yeah, yeah. And doesn't really care about Shep.
Well, there's always Molly. As one ship is sailing.
Door closes. Another one might be coming into port.
So we shall see. That's beautiful.
Let's do Queenie and Weenie of the Week. A great way to wrap up the week.
It's been a fabulous week here, you guys. Jackie and I, every Friday, like to do a little game that we call Weenie of the Week and Queenie of the Week where we give out an award to two different people.
Someone who acted like a Queenie this week and somebody who acted like a Weenie this week. Just know it's all fun and games.
You can be Queenie one week, weenie the next. It's a seven day title and it's not that serious.
So would you like to do queenie or weenie first? We will do queenie first as we always do. I'll go first because yours is so amazing that like I don't want to be upended.
But my queenie of the week is the obvious queenie in the room with us which is our new studio. Of course, of course.
Toast. What era is this? Like 4.
4.0 okay are we counting the breath yeah yeah so the breath and then the pink with the thrones then the apartment we were evicted out of then honestly then the studio where we were both in it together and then remote and then remote and then this i'm sorry i lost count was that six or seven your finger was at seven yeah I know but I felt like I forgot about my thumb start again breath pink with the thrones apartment we got kicked out of studio we were in together studio we were in remote this one six toe 6.0 I love that I love mine's actually not dissimilar but it's a little bit more specific obviously the studio is the queen of the week but I think that in the love. Mine's actually not dissimilar, but it's a little bit more specific.

Obviously, the studio is the Queenie of the Week,

but I think that in the face of such judgment and adversity,

our frames have really acted with such Queenie-like elegance.

Yeah.

Everybody, you're ugly, you're ugly, you're ugly. You're making me dizzy, you're making me dizzy.
And they have just stood behind us, like, giving us such support, giving us, like, such party vibes. And the thing is, Jackie and I were talking about this last night, like, we will never, ever remove these frames.
Like, you don't understand. The frames are a symbol of us not being able to be told what to do.
Not only that, they're a symbol of our perseverance. People are always telling us, you suck, you suck.
And we just stand tall and we do our jobs. These frames, people are like, why are the frames empty? Because it's us.
We are the frames. This is Jackie and this is Claudia.
And in the face of such judgment, such bigotry this week against our frames, they have done nothing but stand by our side. And stand tall.
And that's what a Queen true and what I also love about the frames I was thinking um yesterday is there actually an homage to our first toe studio remember those chairs the gilded chairs yep and there we brought in a touch of our herstory like what we're just gonna sit in front of like this wallpaper and these like we look like every other every other podcast. Like we need our frames.
Like we are us.

Yeah.

And the thing is, is like talk, talk, talk.

Talk, talk, talk about the frames.

They're not going anywhere much like us.

Okay.

That's what I'm saying.

Did I overheat my queenie?

And like keep rattling them off.

Keep saying.

Keep making them famous.

Keep, they're not going anywhere.

Did I overheat my queenie or no?

No, you didn't.

But we actually, I teed you up really nicely.

Yeah.

I was worried that maybe you were going to like talk about the frames before I could.

No, I wasn't going to talk about the frames because like much like the frames I was, I was above it.

Yeah, of course.

But much like the frames, sometimes I have to get down in the muck.

That's what I've been saying. Now, Weenie of the Week, my Weenie of the Week is a man by the name of Dexter Morgan.
I think that the Gracie Abrams fandom making a petition, I'm always talking about how toxic stan culture can be. And this is the perfect example.
It's such crazy, truly mentally ill behavior. It's embarrassing.
And the fact that it got to Gracie is even more embarrassing. And that's just weenie like behavior.
Honestly, the people who created, I don't know their real names, but it was definitely like a group of three people who like thought they were like really about to slay. The people who made that petition, weenie.
Majorly weenie like behavior. My weenie of the week.
Very, very innocuous yet upsetting. upsetting and something that stayed with me is that jojo swiped left for raymond on raya girl what are you doing seriously what are you doing like we you there has to be more to this story because what you just really thought the moment had passed no, this would be the greatest love story ever told.

The greatest love story this town had ever seen.

So until I get a better reason, that's my weenie.

I love that.

That's our show.

What a great week, Jax.

First week in the new studio.

As always.

Done and dusted.

I feel like every day we got so much better, closer.

We're making so much progress every single day with our lighting, with our audio, with our video. I feel like we're at a really good place.
I feel like yesterday's episode was the first one we actually really nailed. That was the best it ever went.
It was the best it ever went. So hopefully this episode just has the same exact trajectory.
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