SATs & Pop Culture Conspiracies : Thursday, January 23rd, 2025

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Welcome back to the toast and happy Thursday. Thursday.
The last Thursday I'll spend in these four walls were not strong enough. Oh, speaking of Cyrus, we have a Cyrus family story today.
Of course, we have a Cyrus family story. We are so invested in the family Cyrus for so many reasons.
Like it's our childhood. It's also entertainment, but it's not something that I've like reach at all fatigue on in terms of development.
It is a Thursday, which is also like a my house joke. You know, I get my wires crossed in terms of there are things like inside jokes and i feel like for everyone when you have kids you start talking like them and like you guys make up words and stuff and then i also do this show where i start talking like them and we make up words and stuff and there's crossover sometimes fyi thursday is not thursday it's thursday and friday is friday i had such a crazy dream about one of your kids um they were wearing no they were wearing a toupee it was good it was good they were wearing a toupee charlie had this like deep black comb over like toupee and he like was so excited to see me and i was like you look weird he was giving steven yeah honestly i i i don't even know where i got like this look from.
He also had like a new face. I was like, oh, hey, you look great.
Hey, Steve. Hey, how y'all do? And he was like flying down the stairs, like so happy to see coach, which they never are.
Did we tell the Steven story? We didn't. Jackie brought the wrong kid home from the park.
No, what happened was when Claudia was here one afternoon, like Charlie fell asleep for his nap first. He was napping for a while and then Harry and I fell asleep.
So Charlie woke up while we were asleep and Zach and Ben took Charlie with them. They actually were on a mission to find caviar.
Oh, yeah. They like went to the mall.
They went to Costco. They went everywhere like looking for caviar.
They were out so late with Charlie. And when he came home, like he just looked like weird.
He just looked like a different child like he smelled like the mall he just smelled different so he was Steven yeah because you know those two picked up the wrong kid for sure like at Costco 100% he was just we kept calling him Steven and he like was answering to Steven and we were like who's dad like it was really he was giving dad he was giving stranger no and now you know how sometimes like kids wake up from a long nap and they like look like they've grown a little bit they look a little different like that I feel like that just happens with kids so every time he's like doing something a little bit different we call him Steven like he woke up from a nap the other day and he was such a Steven that's so who's Steven everybody has like a an alternate%. Stephen.
Jackson. Hey, Stephen.
I know looks can be deceiving, but I know I saw a lot in you. So glad we'll be talking about the Cyrus family debacle on today's show.
I'm also getting a haircut today. And I feel like every time I get a haircut, I'm like, will she, won't she? And I just want to be honest with you guys.
Spoiler alert. She won't.
I'm getting a trim. Like, I'm getting a trim.

I just want, like, my layers cut.

But, like, I like having long hair, especially now that, like, I'm not in control of my weight.

If I can be in control of something, it's the length of my hair.

So that's where I'm at.

We know.

Yeah.

I just feel like every time they're like, oh, maybe she's going to get bangs.

Like, not today.

We've been known.

Not today.

But I'm glad that you've done another assessment and realized that you are who you are. I'm glad you came to that conclusion.
I am who I am. I am who I am.
Did you have that on your SAT also? Did you take that ACT? Are you a freak like that? What do you think? I'm 11. That's so nice.
You think I'm young enough? Like when I was in high school, the ACT was like this new test. It existed and like people took it for sure, but was so crazy to take like it was so okay so like you have no future yeah like it was so off the beaten path like it was so generic what made someone someone who took the ACTs I actually it was how you learned like it was like you could do like a test for your brain like how you process information like what kind of test taker you are you either more fit for the SAT or the ACT and I know that they were like given equal value at colleges like they were but I also think that the SAT has the writing portion ACT doesn't have writing and instead it has like science or something so it has like one yeah something like that in the ACT thank you for reminding me now is that the ACT is actually a much easier test.
You are given so little time. And with the SAT, if you have like a learning disability, you can get extra time.
It was actually very common. That's why if you get extra time on the ACT, like congratulations, you're going to Harvard.
Okay, so there was 100% score. There was one girl in my class who had ACT extra time.
And like seriously, it was a golden ticket because the ACT itself, the was easier than but it was all about time management it was all about getting your answers in and like you would be really penalized for not finishing certain sections and this girl like when everybody found out that she got extra time on the ACTs like it was so crazy so they feel like I even know who it is do you it's someone that like does it just something with letter yeah it's a girlie yeah yeah I think I know yeah you like that's how big of a deal you guys it literally made like the school newspaper it was so crazy and so I I think now like there's it's like 50 50 split like kids just decide which ones to take but back in my day it was new I actually think more people take the ACTs these days I think the SATs been like canceled good like us taking the SATs is really giving away our age. Oh my God.
So true. I took the ACTs.
Literally. That's what I'm saying.
One of the worst experiences of my life was that stupid fucking test. And not even the test itself.
The tutoring, like the studying up until those big books. Going downtown every week to take a practice test.
Waking up so early to do that. And like those SAT study groups, like it was just, it was horrible.
It was, but do you remember, I think it was on the practice test, like when you had to sign your name, it said, I am who I am. Oh, that's how we got here.
On my practice test. I don't think it was on the real thing because like that's preposterous either i don't think that's preposterous i also would love to you know what just really quickly do sat questions like was the test that hard or were we like i just want to say i saw on x like a an lsat question that was like there are 10 really hard questions on the lsats and here's one of them and if you can get this like you probably would like farewell on the lsat okay i've seen those before too okay so i read it through i chose my answer and then in the comments they like didn't i never knew what the answer was annoying but i think i got it right okay here's a sample sat question ready 179 it's multiple choice fill in the? Okay.
Oh and also wait I don't know where the

answer is. Okay yeah that's important.
Okay whatever. Beginning in the 1950s Navajo Nation

legislator Annie Dodge Winuka continuously worked to promote public health. This blank effort

involved traveling throughout the vast Navajo homeland and writing a medical dictionary for

speakers of Dine Bazaar the Navajo language. Which word would you put in? Okay.
This impartial effort

the Navajo homeland, and writing a medical dictionary for speakers of Dine Bazaar, the Navajo language.

Which word would you put in?

Okay.

This impartial effort, this offhand effort, this persistent effort, or this mandatory effort?

This persistent effort.

Right, because she traveled and then she wrote.

Like, are we geniuses?

Or- Was that an easy question?

Yeah.

Or we're just like old and we should know these things and maybe when we were juniors we didn't.

Yeah, I would just genuinely love to know the answer.

I think that's still grading on 1600, not to age her, but I feel like she was a 1600. And then for my year, that's fucking ancient.
You were graded on the 1600 scale. What did you get? And then I think for my year, I guess it would have been out of 2400.
400, yeah. another 800 points for the new section.
Yeah, there were three sections instead of two. So you got, I know you got in the 20s.
I did. And I remember when we would convert Olivia's score, like, because we were all so competitive.
Yeah, compared. Hers was in the 20s too.
So I was like, okay, that's like the bar that I have to reach. And you know my ass got in the 18s.
Like, I think it was 1850 or something. Like, it's an admirable score.
It's not bad, but like, it's not good. I got 2040.
That's like really good. It was really good.
And I feel like that doesn't surprise people who like know me now because I've really like worked on myself and like becoming a smart person. But I need the record to show like I was not a smart person in elementary and high school.
No, me neither. And I know that if I had like ever been taken for testing they would have given me like a bunch of learning disabilities like I just know I was because it's not that I'm a dumb person and I mean I guess maybe I didn't have a learning disability like I actually just didn't give a shit like it's hard but I like I so didn't care like going to school was like about so many things and none of it was about like learning and then I think in college so my SAT scores put me like in a new because I did well like I had new options open to me and um then if I like really beefed up everything else about my application like that's how I got into Colgate plus applying early and showing that I was really Colgate strong and don't forget about that that essay and my essay yeah no that's what I mean like every other like my grades like not that my GPA wasn't the greatest, like everything else we were like firing in all cylinders.
Yeah. And I gave a great interview and I had a great essay and I had a good SAT score.
But then I think I actually did a little better in college, not all the time, but because I was learning about things I was interested in because I was a history major. And I just like when I cared about the subject, I paid more attention.
Here's what Olivia said. Oh, it's probably a rigmarole answer.

Yeah, she said, if I remember correctly.

Brian was the proctor.

If I remember correctly, I got a 2020 out of 2400.

And then I think a 1380 perhaps out of 1600.

So how do you get both?

1380 sounds memorable.

Yeah, 1380.

So what would that convert to?

I don't know.

I need to get my like-

Like if you did better than Olivia,

like that would have been like a big thing in our house.

1380 over 1600 equals X over 2400.

Should I get my calculator?

Okay, 2400 times 1380.

Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on.

This is the only piece of math I will ever remember. Whoever taught it to me deserves- 2400 times 1380 okay hold on this is the only piece of math I will ever remember whoever taught it to me deserves times 1380 okay divided by 1600 Olivia got a 2070 Olivia got a 2070 yeah so that's why it didn't ring a bell that you did better than Olivia yeah and I just want to say if I, if I had done better than Olivia, that would have been like headline news in our family because Olivia was so, so smart.
Like, I would know that. I would have remembered that.
I would have been talking about it today. I'd go over for dinner and see if you remember the time.
It would have been like family lore. Yeah, because Olivia was always the smartest parent.
Like, always just an A student. So, like, what's that like? I don't know, but I do, and I feel like I bring this up all the time like if you're listening to this in high school which I'm sure you're not um like don't put too much stock in it I remember going to my um five-year high school reunion and just being like really unimpressed with what all the really there were kids in my grade who went to Harvard like I had a really really smart graduating class like and I was just like really unimpressed with what a lot of them were doing I was like asking like what are you guys doing she's like oh I'm like in between jobs trying to work in fashion I'm like so you could have gone anywhere like that's not like you're like like me yeah like well even though you were probably a big macher at that point not really but like I just remember being like oh my god none of that mattered like seriously you all that work for what yeah well it shapes you as a person so don't give up stay in school don't do drugs there you go my motto is a little my motto my motto is get out of school and do drugs you know stay away from school stay in drugs yeah well there's your life lesson for the day.
That's of what we provide here along with just pardy vibes and stories it's thursday such a relaxed day i feel like everybody's still talking about dear toasters from this week like it was i've gotten so many text messages i know i need to comb through the updates to see if i found anything but this is like this girl's in a it's not something that gets fixed in a week or two. Like she,

we will hear from her

in a couple of months,

I hope.

On the news.

Literally,

man,

woman kills husband,

nation rejoices.

Like man arrested

after him and his buddies.

Yeah,

underground ring of freaks

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Love that.

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I'm wearing my maternity clothes today. I'm so comfortable.
You look look comfortable i feel like it's an adorable outfit i know it's like not ugly you know what and i was thinking like whoever did maternity clothes like needs to do what they did for maternity for plus size like there's literally no reason my plus size clothes should be so fucking ugly and like so grandma it's like floral patterns you look like a couch and why are they able to make maternity clothes like so stylish and cool just like with different sizing it's literally plus like do it yeah I don't know like it's not it's it can be done there's proof look at maternity yeah like shopping plus size is like seriously the most upsetting thing on the planet it's just it's not gotten better ugly oh my god I just feel like whenever I'm shopping like, there's always, whatever I'm buying, like there's always plus available of the same thing. No, but what do you consider plus? Like an extra large? That's a plus.
No, no, no, no. It's like two models and you can shop like plus.
Where are you shopping? Revolve. No, I don't see that ever.
Like it's, but I'm thinking like when you go to a store, like it's just, it's sad. Oh, when you go to a store.
Well, I don't go to a store so much. It's like graphic tees and it's like, it's trends from five years ago.
Like the plus size community is now getting turtlenecks within open shoulder, you know? Oh my God, stop. You were the first one with that cold shoulder.
I invented that sweater. I'm wearing a turtleneck today because it's very cold.
My house is very cold because I just like, it feels crazy for me to turn on the heat. Don't you feel that way? Did you just say it's very cold? Well, I just need to justify my turtleneck because people are gonna be like, don't you live in Florida? People do love to say that to you.
They do love to say that to me. So I just need to justify my turtleneck.
And by the way, they're not wrong for that. That's a crazy fucking sweater to wear when you live in Florida.
Wait, so I'm saying it's cold here. There's a cold front.
There's been snow in Florida. You've seen that? Snow on the beach? Of course I have.
And I just was asking you a question, which don't you think it would be crazy of me to turn on the heat in my house? Yeah, I guess it would be kind of nuts. I'm a little cold, if that's okay.
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Code T U R T. I mean, what can I say? Seriously? Our first story Oscar nominations delayed, but here.
So here are the Oscar nominees and we have our official Oscars correspondent. And I have to be honest with you, like if you really want to be taken seriously in this space, which you're doing the work and you should be, you're going to have to watch Amelia Perez because it's leading the pack with 13 nominations just letting you know I won't I thought you were gonna say you're gonna have to see the Bob Dylan movie and like that's that's the truth that's sort of like washing over me like I understand I probably should see it yeah and I don't think you would hate it no next up on my list is the brutalist okay because I spoke to like my you know my friend in Hollywood me and Ben were talking to Josh last night and he was like, you guys have to see it.
He knows we're on this journey. He said, we have to see brutalists.
Like it's long, but amazing. And you have to see Amelia Perez.
I don't need to see it. I've seen it.
Penis to vagina, vagina to penis. I've seen it.
I've seen enough. I've seen enough.
It is so crazy. I can't believe that it got nominated for an Oscar and it got nominated for the most Oscars.
You guys, if you haven't seen clips from this movie, like you absolutely need to. I want to talk about sex change operation.
It's the craziest thing I've ever seen. It's a musical about this like evil cartel man who wants to undergo gender reassignment surgery.
Unclear if he's like a genuine in that endeavor or if he's looking to go into hiding because he like he's responsible for something like the most vicious kidnappings in Mexican history. The vibe I get is that it's genuine.
And that's what makes it so crazy about it. Like, yeah, holding space for two truths.
Like you can seriously struggle with your gender identity while also kidnapping people. That's crazy.
It was that up for debate? I guess it was more so that it wasn't up for debate. Nobody ever thought about it.
Like I would just assume like if you're busy orchestrating like evil acts of- You're like happy with who you are. No, you're just busy.
You're like sure of yourself. You're busy.
You're sure of yourself. And all I just want to say is like, I'm listening to the Tostata community on this one.

Like they do not fuck with this movie.

So they don't.

So therefore, like who am I to betray my community?

The thing is like, nobody really fucks with this movie,

which is why the amount of nominations

that it's getting is really so crazy.

It's like offensive to a lot of people.

Many cultures.

It also does not seem good.

It seems like a joke. Yeah, because sometimes, you know, a a movie is offensive but it's like but it's also a good movie truth yeah and it's like something we need we needed to talk about but i don't think that's what's happening no that's what's happening i thought for sure that like the amelia perez was gonna like make its rounds in all the award ceremonies but oscars which is really like the upper echelon the most premiere was gonna cut them them out of the conversation that's what I thought was going to happen no not at all they are leading 13 nominations so here are the nominees for best picture Anora no the brutalist remains a complete a complete unknown I have to those are the two I need to see conclave honestly the more you see that being a best picture well you know me and Ben were talking to josh last night and he was like giving us his thoughts on it because he's gone through like he loved it so much and like i i understood like like everybody's interpreting it differently and that's what it's a good movie yeah honestly it was really good dune part two you're kidding me that's best picture yeah but this category is bigger than the globes like

we're only halfway through amelia perez i'm still here nickel boys the substance wicked honestly i i like the substance and wicked but i don't know i don't know i need to see more okay next best actress Cynthia Erivo Wicked Carla Sofia Gascogne Amelia Perez Mike Mickey Madison Anora no to me more the substance Fernanda Torres I'm still here based on what I've seen the substance like seriously she was incredible I wanted me to get it and like Cynthia Erivo could win for next Wicked. And it's like nice knowing that she'll have another shot for part two of Wicked.
Also, like I saw both movies and I thought, I think Cynthia was incredible. But I think Demi like did more.
It was such a, like this is Cynthia's bread and butter, you know, like musical. Like Demi was so out of her box and she was really, it was so, it was big.
I think to me. Best actor, Adrian Brody, The Brutalist.
Timothy Chalamet, A Complete Unknown. Coleman Domingo, Sing Sing.
Ralph Fiennes, Conclave. Okay, wait.
We have to talk about Ralph Fiennes. His name? His name is Ray Fine or something.
Like I'm saying it completely wrong. He should be glad I didn't't call him Ralph Fiennes.
His name is Ralph Fiennes. Like I don't know what everyone's talking about.
When you say it, it sounds familiar. Like, yeah.
Oh my God, for sure. Everybody knows Ralph Fiennes.
Like America's sweetheart, Ralph Fiennes. Sebastian Stan, The Apprentice.
You'll have to do some work there. Because I feel like it's going to be Adrian Brody.
Yeah, so you're going to see The Brutalist. Yeah.
I feel like he's always a safe bet. I really need to see The Brutalist and A Complete Unknown.
But it looks like Kylie will be at the Oscars. Ay.
That's huge. Next, Best Supporting Actress.
Monica Barbaro, A Complete Unknown. Oh, that's the girl who was sitting with Elle and Kylie.
Oh, she's very pretty. People say looks like a mixture of L and Kylie.
Right. That's our girl.
Ariana Grande, wicked. Felicity Jones, the brutalist.
Isabella Rossellini, conclave. Zoe Saldana, Amelia Perez.
Let me say something about Isabella Rossellini. Like she was in the movie for five seconds.
Like the fact that like Ariana, like the fact that I think ariana could have been a yes supporting not not supporting just best actress like the fact that like the amount of work put into both projects is so crazy different like and ismael rosolini was amazing she should have went she was seriously in four scenes i just want to say something crazy that i haven't said yet even though the only movie i've seen out of all these is wicked just let it be known i didn didn't say it should win best picture and I didn't say that Cynthia should win I think Ariana should win I said it I completely agree especially because it's best supporting so like the bar is already a little lower and she is a lead so she did so much and she was so amazing I agree it wasn't but like I don't know I could not take my eyes off of Ari like and I think this this mostly because this category is a little less competitive than the ones I think Ari should win I said it if Wicked is gonna win one award I think it should be our it's Ariana's to lose and I agree she really could have been cast as a lead she was my first thought when I got in the car after the movie was like she stole the show she made it her own she paid homage to the original character she added flair she should win which is so crazy because I don't think that like wicked is really competing in a lot of these categories because it's very mainstream very commercial but like she she was brilliant like truly brilliant agreed I think you guys know I'm hard on my girl like I don't expect her to win but I think she should yeah best supporting actor you're a cares yeah I don't we her to win, but I think she should. Yeah.
Best Supporting Actor. Who cares? Yeah, I don't.
Anyone from Conclave? Anyone from Conclave. No.
Or The Substance? No. Okay, I don't care.
Best Director. Onora.
Brutalist. Complete Unknown.
Amelia Perez. The Substance.
Just noteworthy that John M. Chu did not get nominated for Best Director.
He didn't get nominated in any other award show either so i don't know anything about like directing but he obviously like isn't good but like because i don't know if everybody's snubbing him or like and it's crazy because how can you not direct a movie well but the movie ends up amazing yeah i mean justin baldoni it was a project that was too justin baldoni was a thousand percent It was a project that was too stacked. Justin Baldoni was snubbed.
A thousand percent. It was a project that was too stacked to fail, honestly.
So I don't know if like a director made or broke, but I thought he did a good job. I thought so too.
I thought it looked nice. But like, let me also say like, I don't know what constitutes a good and a bad director.
I would agree with that. So that's why I'm not stepping in like I did for Ari.

Yeah.

Then the only other category

I'm usually interested

is best original songs

because they perform.

And did you see

they're removing performances?

They announced that yesterday too.

Well, I'm not mad

because like,

aside from Elton John,

I don't need to see any of these.

Who are they?

Because Miley wasn't nominated

like she usually was.

El Mal,

Amelia Perez,

The Journey,

The Six, Triple Eight, Like a Bird, Sing Sing, Me Camino, Amelia Perez, Never Too Late, Elton John. Two songs from Amelia Perez.
Do you think it's the one? Sex Change Operation. It better be.
Penis to vagina. Vagina to penis.
I love that song. We made it catchier than it is.
I know. I'm singing a familiar tune.
Like a children's song. Yeah.
Is it like Ring Around the Rosie or something? Ring Around the Rosie A bucket full of ashes. By the way, that song is dark.
A lot of them are dark. Yeah.
Something about like a cradle in a tree. Or is that Ring Around the Rosie? That's not Ring Around the Rosie.
When the cradle falls out of the tree. Rockabye Baby.
Yeah. However, it's not actually.
It's actually like a different. When the wind blows, the cradle will fall.
As a bow breaks, the cradle will fall. Out will come baby, cradle and all.
No, but it's like meant to be something sweet. Like used to swing on a tree and then when they come out it means they're too big it like broke and now they're a big kid something like that i guess it's just all about your i read a reinterpretation recently right right um and i have something to say about the oscars okay because bow and yang and rachel sanat like were announced as the people who were going to announce the nominees and there was like a lot of hoopla for it and i have to speak a truth and it's embarrassing but i have to just be honest with myself okay i don't know who rachel sanat is and she's everywhere how do you not know who that is how do you know who that no you don't yeah okay it was rachel sanat and ralph and everybody knows rachel sanat like seriously who is it like you know who i thought who she was for a while because you love that show my crazy ex-girlfriend oh yeah rachel yeah she looks like that girl that's funny rachel she's an actress and comedian i oh she was in bodies bodies bodies and bottoms okay she was in like two a24 movies that's why like gen z loves her i don't think we're expected to know this person but like not like announcing the oscars yeah is that like a huge shiva baby oh i'm scared i would love oh wait oh here do you want to watch shiva baby it's while at a jewish funeral service with her parents a college student has an awkward encounter with her sugar daddy and her ex-girlfriend.
I have to tell you something about this movie. Hold on, let me just.
Classic Shiva stuff. I, just hold on.
Before I say it, I want to, oh, maybe I'm wrong. Nevermind.
So no, I'll just say, I didn't know who this was, but. I know.
And it's like, I feel like I'm wrong. Never mind.

So no, I'll just say, I didn't know who this was.

I know, and it's like, I feel like I'm expected to.

Oh, I didn't have expectations set on myself.

Okay, well, I just wanted to speak my truth.

I claim to be hip, I claim to be young, I claim to be Gen Z. Like, I took the ACTs, and I don't know who Rachel Sinat is.

But if you took the ACTs, you know who Rachel Sinat is, I'm telling you.

She was a question on the test. Diana Agron is in Shiva Baby maybe I would watch that if you want to get to know Rachel Sonata give Diana Agron more work in the year 2025 like Hollywood has failed Diana Agron even though I think she like purposely yeah I feel like that doesn't work I think after Glee like she had had enough and she does really well like no I feel like she works like she her IMDb is definitely stacked but I think she's like small art projects she's choosy she does what she wants and I think she makes most of her money being like a socialite fashion girl she was like a face of Chanel and I think she like married really well so I think she's fine um and I don't think she wants to work like I don't think she wants to be a big star I think she like saw the dark side of Hollywood and was like, listen, I like the money, but the rest of this, like, it's not gonna be for me.
But she's seriously like a classic talent. I agree.
Are you ready for our next story? I am. Billy Ray Cyrus's family is genuinely worried after his disastrous inauguration performance, his son Trace says.
I would be worried if they weren't. So his son trey cyrus put out a statement um it's almost like an open letter yeah expressing concern for billy ray and i think that like doing it in the public was just meant to really like shake billy it's like what you do when someone's hit rock bottom like intervention you you stop caring like you just have to get through to them yeah he said since my earliest memories all i can remember is being obsessed with you and thinking you were the coolest person ever.
I wanted to be just like you. The day you adopted me was the happiest day of my life.
Sadly, the man that I wanted so desperately to be just like, I barely recognize now. It seems this world has beaten you down and it's become obvious to everyone but you.
Me and the girls have been genuinely worried about you for years, but you've pushed all of us away. Noah desperately has wanted you to be a part of her life and you haven't even been there for her that's your baby girl she deserves better somehow just like me she still idolizes you though we are all hanging on to memories of the man we once knew and hoping for the day he returns so i mean this is probably the biggest insight and like window into what's been going on with the family cyrus because we've known about this divide we've known that like the kids took Tish's side in the divorce but like why and it really just seems like this behavior we saw on stage the other night like is sort of how he's been for the last couple of years and it's like impossible to help someone who won't help themselves yeah this is so sad and obviously like I throwback to Cherry Cyrus.
Metro Street Boomin'.

Yeah.

When she doesn't like this, will you do it like that?

That was, like, one of the greatest times in pop culture.

Like, Miley was coming up, and then they were like,

she has a brother.

He's in this band.

What was that band called?

Metro Boom?

It was called Metro?

Hold on.

Station.

Thank you.

I went to a concert.

Wait.

When I was in high school, they were the opener for, like, Someone Big. Who did they open for? I feel like Katy Perry or something.
It was at Madison Square Garden. Probably Katy Perry.
They're giving me like tours of old train stations. Of course they are.
Of course they are. That band name does not have good SEO.
Yeah. Okay.
They should have been Street Loomin'. I'm never going to find what i'm looking for booming i'm never gonna find what i'm looking for and yeah uh trace is the uh bassist i hope you find it what you're looking for i hope it's everything you dreamed your life would be and so much more yeah shake it was like really their only song um because the rest i'm not familiar with well one hit wonders we could say that oh my god they joined boys like girls on their tour but i never saw boys like yeah i was i know i can't say i was gonna say was it boys like girls but i was gonna say that but i know like no one will believe me I never saw boys like girls on tour but like if I don't know if you guys would believe me when I told you like nobody in America was a bigger fan of boys like girls than me that album it's like black and then it's like a bunch of colors in the middle I it's drunk in love that was no love drunk I used to have a love drunk, but now I'm hung up.
Oh my God, like seriously raised me. Is that Check Yes Juliet? No, Check Yes Juliet is a different band.
That's Ben's favorite song. And it's different than Ann Juliet? It is.
It's We the Kings, Check Yes Juliet. Oh, We the Kings.
They are elite. You know, I actually recently found out something interesting.
I just want to say, like, you won't believe me but i was gonna guess sure that metro street open do you remember the band element elementy of course and they have night out no what's what's like their big song it's um hold on i'll find it actually no i don't remember juliet it's called Juliet. I think you're fine.

Oh, whoa, whoa.

Okay.

We're in a different era now.

Yeah, of course.

But you know what I just found out about this band?

Do you know who was a core member of the band left after he was cast on Glee?

Matthew Morrison.

The blood thickens.

I just want you to know.

I want to be your Romeo.

There was a time where like if you put. What do you think Shakespeare thought of that? Like of all the songs being made.
Check Yes Juliet. Juliet by Ellen.
Like what do you think he made of popular culture. Taking his timeless love story.
Kind of a story of star-crossed lovers if you will. And making it mainstream.
I think he would have loved that. And he would have like totally.
he would have been like i called it like i think shakespeare saw himself as being someone that would inspire generations of music yeah prose rest in peace william shakespeare you would have loved elementes juliet you would have loved we the kings you really would have he would have been sat front row like when ben is like drinking he never does, but like if you get Ben drunk and give him the ox, the first song he will play is Check Yes Juliet. The second is Timber by Kesha and Pitbull.
All I have to say is in vino veritas. 100%.
In wine there is truth. Those are factually good songs.
It's so true. And then he'll go like Red Hot Chili Peppers and that's where he loses me.
But he has this one Red Hot Chili Peppers song that he likes, which is fine. Like everybody's allowed to like, like the Red Hot Chili Peppers.
But the version- Are they allowed? No. I feel like they're not allowed.
The version that he likes is a SoundCloud remix. So like you have to wait for him to find it on SoundCloud.
Genuinely painful. You should bookmark it in his phone.
By the time he gets there there like i'm so done with him like i'm not helping right right like i know when we reach red hot chili peppers like in an uber or something i'm like the night's over ben has to go home yeah he's gonna throw up are you ready for our next story number three yeah so this is a story that's been like swirling for a while. It seemed a little, it seemed a little unbelievable.
But now the truth about Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's divorce book has been revealed. So a Vanity Fair cover story published last week alleged that Meghan's team had quietly held talks with an unnamed publishing house to gauge interest in the idea for the book.
So this Vanity Fair article, which we didn't talk about, we must have been off. No, I saw it a bunch of times, but I was just like, there's no way, like they're not.
But it was like overwhelmingly negative. And I feel like it was like marked like a real shift in like the media's portrayal of those two.
It was like, it was kind of like a hit piece. And I think the craziest part, yes, divorce book, was the podcast, podcast um Harry I almost said Harry Styles Prince Harry was shopping around about psychopaths oh I didn't even see that okay so you share yours and I'll find the psychopath thing it was so funny well so that article's been like circulating for a while that she was shopping around this divorce book which I just found to be like highly unbelievable and now a source was worked closely with the couple told page six that Megan and Harry know that they are tied together their value is in being a couple even if they wanted to split they couldn't and honestly they are obsessed with each other they're just two narcissists this person said um however it does appear that the um they just put feelers out to see what if a divorce book would be interesting to people but but about her divorce or about divorce in general no about divorce from him it's like we get that's why I don't believe it's like we would get divorced if people will buy this book what about your actual life and and then this article also says they they do they are obsessed with each other so it's like you would just like do it for a bit for content they are running out of things to talk about they've really like sold every single part of their personal lives and their history but that feels really crazy to me okay so a former staffer asserted that quote they had this idea to do a podcast because they knew that a lot of celebrities did them and it becomes clear that neither couple member actually had any strong ideas of what to do with the audio format which is how you get to the sociopath show which supposedly grew out of harry noticing that despite suffering some of the world's most famous childhood trauma, he did not grow up to be a sociopath.
So why did guys like Vladimir Putin? We really, oh, this is someone's recap of it. We genuinely wish this article had gone forward.
So basically his idea was to interview like the world's most powerful men and how they're all like kind of sociopaths, like Mark Zuckerberg types, like how they're all so crazy from the purview of like, I grew up, I have childhood trauma, but I'm not a sociopath. Why are you? And of course the idea was squash.
Who the fuck would sit down for that interview? Like you're going to call me crazy, bitch. You're crazy.
It was one of the craziest ideas for a podcast ever. That's so crazy.
I thought it would be like him going in jails and interviewing actual sociopaths. No, that would be interesting.
But like world leaders and influencers like Mark Zuckerberg, it's like, hey, sociopaths, how'd you get here? Yeah. No one would ever, that would never happen.
Yeah, I like seriously. And under the guise of like powerful men become sociopaths, but it didn't happen to me.
So let's put the spotlight on you, Vladimir Putin. And also like- And that Vladimir Putin is doing Prince Harry's podcast.
Honestly, I would watch it in two seconds. Oh my God.
That was the craziest part of the Vanity Fair article, honestly. So no, this was crazy to me that like they would maybe get divorced for a book deal.
I genuinely like don't, because that's so crazy to me that two people would do that, especially like two people who seem to be very much in love and they are bound to one another like I I have a hard time believing it but um the publishing insider said they're worth more together it doesn't benefit them to be apart they have all their deals together I think the random house deal is much like the Netflix deal Netflix just said yes to everything because they wanted to get the docuseries Harry and Meghan so they said okay we'll take the polo show and let's see what happens with Meghan's lifestyle show oh that actually kind of makes sense for Netflix but also I don't know if I necessarily agree that they're more valuable together I think at one point yes but now like if they actually got divorced and gave the level of insight they did in the documentary and in the books like how they did about the royal family but about each other like that's interesting though oh it would be interesting but it's not lasting like what do you do after that they need to find something lasting not just like a moment in time and they've really excavated every part of their own and shared history so they do need

to think about like what's next and I do think that they're stronger together because you can

justify all of the things that they did that you might have not liked because they were in love and

protecting one another if it turns out that they couldn't even make it not even five years on the outside like what was this all for yeah so interesting but it also was reminding me of these rumors that are swirling have you seen the rumors that the obamas are splitting up okay well i saw that and at first it was like well because she didn't go to jimmy carter's funeral and then she didn't go to the inauguration so like I painted no mind me neither because actually if you've ever listened to Michelle Obama she has spoken like very straightforwardly about how she like hated being the first lady she hates like the public life of being like a political first lady so yeah the two events like why why should I'm done like leave me out of this I disagree with that I think that even if you whether you like it or not like that is your job in like in this country, like that you go to those things. I just assumed she had a good reason for not going, whether it was like something going on with her.
I assumed she just had reason, not because she didn't feel like going. I feel like it was like my, this is my husband's problem.
Like my husband was the president and I'm like out, I'm over it by, and I was like, okay, honestly, you don't think Hillary Clinton feels that way no actually like that stranger no but Hillary's like actively involved in politics like that's her world you know I guess no I she had a position like people also were probably saying like she didn't go to the inauguration because she didn't want to support Trump but that doesn't explain why she didn't go to Jimmy Carter's funeral I know she has been noticeably absent from public life so it led people to wonder right I don't think it's as like simple as like she's over it because I just that's when you're like a former first lady like there are just things that you do and I think and she's done them in the past so I don't think it's that I just thought maybe there was like something going on in her life that was or something with the kids where she just could not go and that was enough for me but it's shining a light on like these marital issues that people are saying that they are having and that they are splitting up and then tier two of the tier two of the series well that's where things get interesting because I didn't think that they were splitting up like her not going to two events either because if you actually were splitting up and you would want to like avoid public you would just go like yeah so I didn't think that they were splitting up until my sister Olivia who truly like operates in the strangest places on the internet like she's always like telling me crazy stories about like influencers. Like I don't know where she gets this stuff.
She texts us and she goes, has anybody heard the rumor that Obama and Jennifer Aniston are having an affair? And I was like, actually no. And I hear everything.
No, I had not heard anything close to that. But then in the days since she said that, I've seen a lot of people talking about it and like people that I respect and that don't just like say like baseless crazy things and now this morning Jennifer Aniston has turned off her comments right which by the way if because the conspiracy theory has like gotten so big I'm sure regardless of if there's truth behind it she would turn off her comments but like turning them off like does feel like an admission of guilt Because if there was this like it, she would turn off her comments.
But like turning them off, like does feel like an admission of guilt.

Because if there was this like really wackadoodle story

about her that was so baseless,

like what would you really need to hide from?

I don't know.

And I just want to say,

I could see these two like getting along.

Is that crazy?

You see it?

Yeah, I see it.

Like that's not so crazy.

They're age appropriate.

Like, I don't know.

They kind of like very weirdly make sense no I agree at first I can't get on this train unless somebody gives me like a real piece of proof like I need something because if I get on like I'll never get off I'll think that they're together for the rest of my life I saw Megan McCain talking about and like she is so it's reached the political sphere like and she I feel like she wouldn't just like spew nonsense if she didn't have like people who really think it's true. Well so Jennifer Aniston turning off her comments like really does add a layer of validity to what was like this sort of crazy outlandish Olivia Oshere rumor.
Like not validity but it just means that like seriously it's so big that. It's gotten to her.
Yeah it's not like this just random thing that a couple of us heard no and given you know michelle not showing up i think also house inhabit was talking about it okay but like that to me that that is still very much like internet right right that doesn't give it any credibility to me but yes now the instagram comments being turned off that's something or i know maybe she's getting prepared for an announcement but also like if i'm an announcement of her new relationship if i'm michelle obviously like any has anyone's husband having an affair is like egregious but i'm fucking mad because like i said like she very vocally like hated that life she did it for him it was like his big dream and so like she gave up eight years of her life for this man just for him to go and cheat on her with Jennifer Aniston like it's almost too egregious to even be true well I feel like the rumors that I'm seeing it's that not only is they are splitting up and he's with Jennifer now it's that they've been living separate lives for a long time like Michelle might have a boyfriend as well like I don't think it was necessarily cheating as more so moving on. Who do we see Michelle with? Shamar Moore.
Older women love Shamar Moore. Shamar Moore loves older women.
They're literally the same age. They're both like celebrities.
Shamar Moore. Even though I think he's married.
But I do feel like if the Obamas split, then like Meghan and Harry, like it's a green light. Copy them.
everything else well no they're like gonna watch they're sort of like they're guinea pigs like let's see if it works out do they get bigger book deals do they get bigger netflix and if someone has to tell them that they are not them no they are not to them well i think that i could have seen that becoming their life when they left that's that's what i thought they were to become, very much like the Obamas. And they didn't because they really, I think they needed the money.
So they did a lot of things that were like a little like tacky that like, you know, the Obamas would never have done, you know? They weren't even at the birthday party. Like for me, that was when I was like, they're not anywhere where the people are.
So I do think they see themselves as the same tier as the obamas and i have to say that they're not yeah agreed but anyways just that was one i didn't see coming this week even though it hasn't come yet it's just rumors it's just rumor yeah are you ready for our next story if it's the next story that's brought to you by e-harmony we have partnered with e-harmony the dating app to find someone that you can be yourself with. So what's better than being yourself first of all, but then also what's better than like finding someone who so appreciates that? Like you don't have to pretend, you don't have to put an act on.
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So she put out a statement clarifying their relationship status and the details of the incident. She said, thank you all for your support and kindness.
I am happy that prosecutors decided not to file the truth, but also like someone who's suffering from DV like wouldn't say, you know? So you're like, no, it's fine, you know? Yeah, but they're not together. So if there was a time to speak her truth, I guess that would be it.
Overall, like I'm glad they're not together. Like whether the event was blown out of proportion or it wasn't like James is somebody who needs to work on himself.
And don't think Allie sometimes like a relationship can help somebody like that like who needs to desperately change I don't think that this was that type of relationship so he's somebody who needs to be on his own I think I feel like it could have been but I feel like for James being on his own like is part of being at rock bottom I feel like when he has someone to lean on like he can just sort of put a band-aid on stuff so if he's like really at the bottom and needs to get sober and like take a lot of time to like be sober it's better if he has to it's a journey you can only go alone you can't do it for someone else you can't do it because someone else is making you so I think he has to do it on his own but I'm glad to know that like the incident that was pretty vague in the details when we reported on it so it was hard to know the severity of it like I'm glad that she was fine like he did not physically hurt her and that they're no longer together I hope that he leans on Lala like in this face she's really somebody who has so and maybe you know I don't think I'm wrong but like you know it could just appear that way like who seems to have a really good grip on sober life and also like understands how necessary how vital it is for her to like continue living this great life work-wise mom-wise like sobriety is such a key part of that and I'm sure she struggles with it like anybody else does but I think that he she could be a great resource for him yeah and I think she always has been and she's there as much as he will you can only help someone as much as they want yeah yeah so it's nice to know that like he has friends that he could go to but again like it's something that he has to do in the early days like by himself no one can do it for him do you think that ally would be a good castmate for the new vanderpump rules because she is sort of like this new gen we know her maybe she has like a new single life like did she ever work at sir no she never worked at sir because she still was doing birth charts I had yeah I like her as a tv character like she had like a good eye on things a good take on things yeah she did um like I liked her interviews and I felt like she was a very um rational person I do enjoy people like that but I do think tabula rasa yeah not that she's I saw a picture circulating that was like unconfirmed like I saw that too and I didn't know anyone me neither as it might be for the best yeah tabula rasa I agree like in order even though like real housewives of New York is like so such a bad

example of tabula rasa even though they they're having like a record low like terrible season but the season finale aired two nights ago and I had seen a lot of hoopla for it before and I'm like sure like you guys just like need people to watch nobody's watching um but it actually was really crazy I didn't see what happened I saw bits of it because I was watching Beverly Hills so they kept like teasing it,

but like they have to separate.

So basically it's been Bryn versus Uba.

Uh-huh.

And- I didn't see what happened I saw bits of it because I was watching Beverly Hills so they kept like teasing it but like they have to separate it's been Bryn versus Uba uh-huh and Bryn was referencing like a trauma like a sexual abuse trauma from her childhood and she said basically that like Uba knew about it and like threw it in her face and then like Erin and Cy were like actually she told us offline that she knows Uba didn't know about it. Like that Uba wasn't ever intentionally trying to hurt her, but like whatever.
And it all came out in the final episode and the women were like, Brynn, that's like seriously the most fucked up thing. Like that's such an egregious allegation against Uba.
And you know it not to be true. And like, you're just doing it for what? And that makes sense why a couple of months ago when it was announced that Bryn's leaving she must have known that this was coming but then Bryn did a big interview in Rolling Stone as like her big final goodbye once the episode aired she kind of like backtracked on the whole thing so she's like taking no responsibility I mean I watched the first season I did not watch this season I will not be sad to see her go I didn't think she was a particularly good housewife I don't think really any of them are I think there's like there's potential there with like Uba and Erin but I don't know where we go from here like yeah they had a great season finale I don't think it's gonna resurrect the season like I don't think people are now gonna go back on Peacock and watch the whole thing yeah um like people like me like I'm interested I heard about it on Twitter like I think I know enough like I'm good right but also just the the conflict even though it sounds like juicy because everything was exposed it sounds inherently like fake and produced because like Uba was I mean Bryn was just like saying something to get a reaction like to make something look like something that it wasn't and I don't like TV like like I said like an agent of chaos like not some there's no like history between the women there's no truth there she's just like trying to make television and you can smell that from a mile away so I'm glad that she is leaving because also that's I've not watched the show aside from like clips and in between other episodes of housewives but you could just tell she just is someone who's just trying to make something up yeah so I don't know what it like how real houses in New York likeork like what that indicates for like a tabula rasa type of show yeah even though like vanderbump rules is it's like one of those younger gen shows on bravo like there's the housewives which is like older women and that's why them going housewives were bringing in like women in their 30s like while it sounds cool it's kind of inherently like the opposite of what the franchise is known for like we like to see like these extravagant older women it's nobody's putting them on tv so this is so them going with like young hot things in new york like cool no but that's not what you go to housewives for no but the inner pump rules has more potential because it's young people with nothing to lose which is what the original cast was even with roni they know it's very formulaic these are uh established women they're not going to just like go wild on tv or they will and it's like phony but it's just not the same so i think it's phony roni and i think just because roni tabula rasa didn't work out like that doesn't mean that the tabula rasa is wrong no i think it would probably like casting choices yeah and a bunch of and the show concept itself versus like the underprop rules I still think there's potential yeah if they could just find some like like people low down on their luck looking for just like a job as a waitress oh and you're gonna be on tv and they live in like shoebox apartments like sure and I feel like LA is full of those people but also I think the x factor for original vanderpump rules was the fact that they were true friends with history that you don't like if it's someone that's a stranger you don't care what you say to them or how you treat them and then it's true it just feels very wishy-washy so they could also but there are friends out there there are friends in Hollywood yeah 100% are you ready for our fifth and final story yeah a little documentary news because Aaron and Nick Carter's sister will tell the family's extreme highs and tragic lows in a new documentary in from Paramount Plus this is like at one point something I would have been interested in and now it's like gone to a place where it's so sad it's so sad there's so much I actually don't want to know tragedy here no just everything that we know about the Carters in the last few years and and really, the last one standing is Nick, who has all of these sexual assault allegations against him and things that even Aaron had said before he passed.
It's just tough. So anyway, Salel Moon Fry is set to direct the Carters, a new two-part documentary that looks at the extreme highs and tragic lows of the Carter family, including Backstreet Boys member Nick Carterter and pop star aaron carter who died in 2022 this is like so dark i feel like every time you peel back the curtain on like the carter family it's so much worse than you ever imagined especially given the fact that they were like these you know bright-eyed bushy-tailed young talented boys who america loved and they were both killing it and they had blonde hair like it was just it was so pargy and so innocent and then to know what was really going on and I feel like I still don't even know like 70 percent of it it's so disturbing and I understand why that makes a good documentary but it's it's actually it's an American tragedy it is the show will be from the point of view of Angel who's Aaron's twin sister and will feature interviews with close family friends including Melissa Joan Hart and Scout Willis as well as never before seen home movies from the family and then just a reminder of just some of the tragedy that the family has experienced um Aaron passed away in 2002 but their Nick and Angel sister Leslie died of an apparent overdose in 2012.
Wait 2002, that's when he died, Aaron Carter. That's when Aaron Carter died? 2022, sorry.
I missed it too. Okay, I'm like, you're six? Sorry.
Okay. Their father died of a heart attack in 2017, and then Aaron died from accidental drowning in 2022, and their other sister, Bobby Jean, died of an accidental overdose in 2023.
And then Nick has faced a slew of sexual misconduct allegations, all of which she has denied. And so while aaron was like struggling in his last time here on earth like he was going live on social media and like sharing some really kind of crazy things about his childhood that i think at the time maybe people had written off because he was so visibly hurting and didn't look like somebody who was just like you know telling the truth and after he passed and then these allegations about Nick came out and the sister has spoken a little bit about it, it was like, oh, wait, maybe like he wasn't crazy Aaron.
Like maybe he was like deeply hurting and actually telling us the truth about the craziness of his childhood. Yeah.
So let's see what comes out in the documentary. Even though this isn't set to be like an expose, it's a labor of love for her family she's nick a part of it i didn't say like interviews from nick but she said by sharing our true story one shaped by lost resilience and healing i hope to honor our journey and transform our past into a message of hope and purpose for others facing similar challenges so it doesn't seem like it's gonna be like expose but if nick't a part of it, there's so much about it that's like kind of Nick coded.
It doesn't. He might be, but they would have said like.
They would have said. So I don't know.
Maybe he's still deciding now that it's like picked up by Paramount Plus. Right.
And like I think a streaming network thinks that like any documentary about like this time and these kids, you know, what was that Nickelodeon one called?

Like it's sort of a surefire way to go viral. Yeah.
And it kind of is. There's so much intrigue.
It does not seem like this is an expose about Nick or anything like take down. It's just their family story.
Yeah. Okay.
I think. So that's coming out soon.
And also speaking of, you know, blast from the past news, yesterday the detectives discovered who Kristen Davis's boyfriend was who gave her $5,000 and never paid it back. Now, there were a couple of names being floated, primarily Mark Ruffalo, whom you know I wanted it to be because he's my nemesis.
And of course he would steal $5,000 from Kristen Davis, but it actually wasn't him. All signs point to James Van Der Beek being the man whom she dated dated who then eventually went on to have great success who now is married with a bunch of kids and lives out in the country and whom at one point had done interviews about how when he moved to la he didn't even have a car so a lot of it kind of adds started dawson's creek in 1998 so the timing lines up however it also makes sense why she didn't name him because he has just shared that he has cancer so it's like not the time to like drag it pile on so i take back what i've said that she needs the five thousand he needs the five thousand dollars she shouldn't have named him but now the story is whole and it doesn't make me like him any less i i very much like him that's the thing about james vanderbeek people really love him and like like, even if she had said it was James Van Der Beek, they,

it wouldn't have been like canceled James.

It would have been like,

Oh,

such a cutie.

Yeah.

Do you know,

he did what it took to make it to the top. And look at it.

And it paid off.

It was a beautiful family.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So glad to have an answer on that.

Um,

well that's our show,

you guys.

It's Thursday.

Tomorrow's Friday.

And we've got one more show in the studio. Oh, wow.
It's going to be's should we get balloons or stuff like should we do something goodbye goodbye goodbye you were bigger than the whole sky you were more than just a short time you were more than just a short time i'll have you know that these four walls came down around us I'm gonna do a TikTok wait wait Jackie wait oh I've got a lot to think about I'm never gonna meet what could have been would have been what should have been you we shouldn't have someone make a mashup now that we know all y'all are music producers no no I don't like that I am going to make a TikTok like a transition where I'm still in this studio and I'm gonna say these four walls came down around us and then cover the camera and I move my hand and I'm in the new studio must have been something send it's like this sort of like fresh start love you. So many content ideas.
I mean, there's going to be so many transitions reels, right? That's what I, tomorrow after we wrap the show, like I have to get to work filming. Yeah, on the transition reels.
If any of you want to mash up these two songs, like that would mean so much to me. It would be helpful.
It would be helpful definitely for the transition reels. For sure.
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