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Welcome back to the toast and happy. Like should we just fuck it, you know? No.
Oh, okay. Happy Friday.
Like literally not worth it whatsoever. We can write an original song.
We could sing another song. We could have another competition have another competition like no oh okay so like like i don't even have the itch anymore yeah fuck that song fuck that song hey jacks how you doing happy friday i'm doing good very excited that it's friday it's such a loaded friday yes a lot of change on the horizon for la turte delu It is the last episode in that studio which I know we've been making what that studio in those four walls thank you I know we've been making a lot of it but I also feel like we really need to acknowledge the space it's literally that scene in the sex in the city movie when Samantha Samantha flies in and they're cleaning out Carrie's closet.
A lot of shit went down in this place. Something must be, what's the second half of that line? Fuck, I need to say it perfectly.
Just hold on. Okay.
Sex and the City. A lot of shit went down in this place.
Something must be paid. Homage? Oh.
Respect? I got it. A lot of shit went down in this apartment.
Attention must be paid. And then she pulls out the bottle of champagne.
Very good. And then the other one.
That's what we need to do here today. Now, yes, we have made quite a moment of this move.
It's literally not a big deal like at all. Having said that, these fools came down around us and like a phoenix, I will rise from the ashes of this building that I have come to fucking hate.
Like the building, I think you move out today and then the building gets demolished tomorrow. Is that how it works? The thing is, is point in time especially when you lived here this was a flourishing office building yeah i used to in my lifetime i have been in this building to go to the dentist i wonder what my dentist is doing where are they going oh there's a sign on their door they went a couple of blocks down and then also a bar class bar studio in the building very famous art gallery very prominent art gallery where are they taking all I saw she had a sign in the elevator she her gallery moved uh I think actually went downtown but yes at what point this was flourishing and you know very center of commerce center of it was a bustling metropolis and you know designer next door yes I had heard whispers that they were turning this building into condos and I actually I got confirmation that that was happening and so people slowly started to move out and I was like whatever like when we have to go we'll go and I'm not sure what the timeline of the condo association is but you remember when there was that earthquake like a year ago yes I actually thought because I have been the only tenant in this building for for maybe a year I have thought when the earthquake was happening that they didn't know that I still was renting here and that the demolition had begun and I was so afraid like so what I mean like there is seriously like if you have a problem in this building the toilet doesn't flush like this building this building is basically abandoned, but I still pay rent.
I don't even know. Like it's so turnt.
Having said that, my tenure here is coming to an end. I have a fabulous new building that I'm so excited about.
The bathroom is so nice. It's just, it's just a new, it's a new chapter for Turney.
It is.

And we love a new chapter for everything, you know?

And it's a much bigger.

Chapters are good.

The chapters of our lives.

Okay, Cheyenne Kimball.

No, it's Brett, not Eldridge.

Young.

Young.

What's the Cheyenne Kimball song?

I'm hanging on.

She doesn't say chapter in there?

Today.

I mean, she might.

Nothing's gonna stop her from saying chapter.

Okay, whatever.

Not only is it a new chapter,

but I'm also like creating a real space.

I can't wait for you to see it.

You haven't seen it yet.

It's not just a studio.

Like there is a studio.

There is an office.

There's actually gonna be a second filming space

for when you come to town,

for when the good guys, you know,

like to suck at the teat of the toast. I'm just really creating sort of like a space for woman creators and Ben like you sound like Adam Newman like I'm no Jackie I sound like the founders remember that woman's only club the wing that was like really controversial yes but it was also on younger and it was like real on younger no there was a time where like they announced this like new kind of Soho House type of thing in New York.
And for some reason, like it was national news. Like who cares about.
You also sound like Anna Delvey. Yes.
You're creating a club. I'm creating.
What was her name? The Anna Delvey Foundation. It's the Turdy Oshry Soffer Wine Reb Foundation.
It's called Turd Work. Where creators can come and just sort of strip back, be themselves, create content.

You seriously sound like the founder of WeWork.

I just want you to know.

And you know what?

I actually understand him on a deep level now because I am so excited for my space.

You have the same dream.

I have the same dream.

Yes, Jackie.

Well, that's very exciting for all those who shall join turd work.

Now, should we talk about sort of like the big elephant in the room? What is that? I trimmed my hair one inch. That was yesterday that we had that conversation? I've lived lifetimes in between.
That's so crazy. Yes.
How does it like, like, how do I look? Your hair looks very very beautiful today you don't look one iota different you couldn't have said a more complimentary thing if you tried right that's what you were going for I was being really crazy like I was hoping I was hoping that would happen yeah when I went to mahogany I was like so you know face framing layers but keep the length and she was like you want to trim I'm like yeah well like it's like hard to say like you know cut the dead but don't change the length of my hair at all right right so she was like do you wanna trim? I'm like, yeah, well, it's hard to say, cut the dead, but don't change the length of my hair at all. Right, right.
So she was like, do you wanna trim? I'm like, but like a little one. And my hair actually wasn't dead, it was just like kind of flat.
I needed a refresh. And I also made my next appointment, my next two appointments, because I'm thinking I gotta plan it out.
My hair's growing so quickly, you know, in this pregnant era, very grateful. so I will be having two appointments god willing

god willing god willing before I give birth and I made made one of the appointments for like right before I give birth so I'll have like maybe like a fire blow out and then I won't be able to get a haircut for quite some time so I'm just like I'm trying to take care of my I'm trying to get my affairs in order yeah that's good so when you go on a trip you know you need to do all your things. Yes, a haircut pre.
I did a haircut pre. It was nice.
It's so important. Yeah, plus your hair is growing very fast.
So that's great. So two more days where you'll look the same.
Yes, exactly. I want to talk about hair and birth, if I may, for a minute.
Okay. Because I was talking to a lot of my friends who have given birth or are given birth, and their hair is a thing for them.
They want to have a blowout, and it's hard to time. so like I was talking to you know a lot of my friends who have have given birth or are given birth and like they hey their hair is like like a thing for them like they want to have a blowout and it's like hard to time so like I was I saw my friend who just had a baby like when she was seriously like nine months and a day pregnant and she had gotten a blowout I'm like what are you getting your hair done for she's like just in case I go into labor I'm like oh I thought it was kind of crazy but now I'm like it's actually really smart like first of all just to like get your hair clean and like out of the way it's's washed.
It's like professionally washed. Too, like everybody's taking pictures.
And like, well, you're not going to look your best. Like to have shiny hair.
Slay. You have shiny hair naturally.
I don't know. I don't clown on anyone who does it.
Like, because that's beautiful. Like, I don't yuck anyone's yums.
But like, and I'm someone who like pictures, blowout. It's everything to you.
But like, I don't want to be worried about preserving my blowout when I'm in the throes of labor I'm more of a slick slick backbone like you're sweating and also when you back is definitely a good call when you do finally take a shower like you want it to be a full shower not just like oh got to keep my blowout and I actually like don't um I don't it doesn't resonate with me the idea of being and also like I don't even want makeup on like when I'm sweating and no makeup. I agree.
When you do skin to skin with a fresh baby on your face has makeup on it. And not the greatest setting spray in the world.
Like I wouldn't want to transfer anything other than like, I wouldn't put on makeup. I wouldn't put on makeup, but the hair thing I actually like really get, especially maybe you can't relate because like I fucking hate my natural hair like I think craziest thing I've ever heard I have I can't relate you have beautiful natural hair I feel like your hair is so calm when it's natural like my natural hair is unbearable oh my god you're seriously crazy no I like hate my natural hair that is so crazy especially like these little pieces that like curl out from my ear does not no one gets better natural hair than you and Margo.
Margo gets really good natural hair. So you guys have the same natural hair? No, no, my natural hair has changed.
Like I know what you're thinking. You're thinking of the turdy of high school when like I used to literally wake up, go to school.
I didn't even brush my hair and it looked like I had to blow out. And people were like, oh my God, how'd you do that? I'm like, I literally woke up like this and I didn't even take it.
Like I took it for granted. No, it's not, but that shit's not has turned dark you don't even know I'm just saying like if you want to worry about your hair when you're giving birth like by all means I I wouldn't I think I might want to I think I might I might want to take on that burden but again yeah and sometimes it's nice to have other things to focus on, you know? Mm-hmm.

Because it might distract.

Yeah.

From anything.

I don't know.

I'm like, I'm about to enter my.

I'm not going to stop you.

My third week of pelvic floor therapy.

So I have a feeling like, I feel like I might crush it, honestly.

Like, look at me.

Ready?

What are you, Kegeling?

Yes, but very specific Kegels.

And honestly, it's like, I have to think about it so hard.

So you breathe in and relax, which I feel like would be the opposite, right? Do it with me. Breathe in and like relax your vag, like totally unkeeged.
Okay. Unclench.
Ready? While you're breathing in. Exhaling kegel.
Do it again. Exhaling kegel.
that's part of my homework so I just like my pelvic muscles at some point like I'm gonna be able to snatch your ponytail with them okay great yeah great great any big plans this weekend well I do have but I can't really like share them on the show. You know why.
But it requires me to like mostly be home. So you kind of just like put me on the spot.
I did. I did.
But don't worry, you'll know like on Monday. Yeah.
Not to give a cliffhanger. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I forgot about like something big that you're doing in your personal life. So I'll be quiet.
Yeah what about you just so many fabulous events like I don't even know where to go like I I'm overwhelmed with options for like really fun things to do and I'm feeling so good and and I'm not tired that I just have endless hours to expend on all these fabulous events that I'm invited to people really do forget about you when you're pregnant like it's kind of rude you think yes and I just want to say what have you been like not invited to that you should be I just I wanted to say quickly like and another apology to you I feel like I remember when you got pregnant like me and Margaret would go do stuff and you were like what about me I'm like well you're pregnant obviously you're not coming me. I was like, oh, OK, sure.
Like, god, she's so fucking naggy. No, bitch, invite me.
Literally invite me. It's just to be invited.
And trust me. Were you not invited? Oh, and I just want to be abundantly clear.
Like, I am not coming, but I want to be invited. Where have you not been invited to? I don't know.
It just feels like I'm not being invited to things. I can't explain it.
Like, I have nothing to do. Oh, but I can't stress, I really don't want anything to do.
Please don't invite me anywhere. I just wanna say like, shout out to Taylor Strecker.
Like we had dinner plans last night and I got my first round ligament pain and it was actually really scary. Like I was walking in the street, I'm like, something's wrong.
And then I like immediately got so tired and nauseous and I was like, I can't, like 30 minutes before. She was like, it's totally fine.
And like, frenzy you can cancel on and like not feel bad about. It's just so fucking real.
Like people who give you like a pit, even if they don't give you a pit, like they say it's totally fine. And like, they mean it.
You don't feel right about it. Like I didn't feel bad.
Taylor Stryker is just like such a real one. I was just, I felt so like not bad about it.
Whenever you're making a new friend, you should like cancel on them pretty early to see if that they're okay with that sort of thing. I love that.
Because like we can't be investing in friendships where you don't feel like comfortable canceling. Yeah.
It's, it made me really appreciate because I've canceled so many things in the last couple of months, like just not feeling it. And it really made me appreciate her friendship and her as a person.
Like I didn't feel even like the slightest way about it, you know? And she didn't make me feel bad at all. She was like, girl, I'm more tired than you.
Well, she's on her podcast today. This fat bitch canceled on me.
My friend, I'm not going to name who, canceled on me last minute. That's funny.
Oh, I want to talk about something I'm so upset about. Hmm.
Like, a fun fact about me is I watch this show. And you probably haven't heard of it.
Nobody has. It's on HBO.
It's Bridget Everett and it's called Somebody Somewhere. I think I've spoken about it on the toast before, but like.
I've seen her promoting it. Yeah.
And it's such a weird show. It like takes place in Kansas.
She plays this like, you know, girl with like nothing going on. She doesn't like have a lot of friends.
And the show starts when she meets this other guy from the town that they like grew up in. They had to high school together but they weren't friendly and they just like sort of spark up this late in life friendship and they're both sort of like loners and as they become friends like they enrich each other's lives so much so much so that now by the third season like they have this whole group of friends and it's like all these like you know misfits and freaks from the town and me and Ben finished the third season last night it's like it's not like the best show i've ever seen but it's got a lot of heart and it makes us laugh and i love bridget everton she is so me like she makes herself sing in almost every her character is just somebody who can like sing amazing you know and in the last episode she sings the climb at like karaoke yeah you're lying i swear i swear like it was so and the thing is one thing i don't like about the show is that she's always like, oh, Sam has to sing.
And Bridget Everett's like, okay. And she like sings the worst songs.
I've actually never known a song that she sings, whether it's like she goes to church or whatever. It's like the worst fucking songs.
So like, what is this bitch gonna sing in the season finale? All of a sudden she starts singing The Climb. I'm like, oh my God, obsessed.
Ben loves the show. Like it's just this random thing that we do.
It fucking canceled but now three seasons is a good run it is and I just want to talk to like the three other people who watch the show because there's a lot of like discourse online was the show canceled by HBO or did it come to an end like on Bridget because by the time we watched the last episode Bridget has this huge group of friends her relationship with her sister is completely repaired and she got a boyfriend like it was too much and I was so ready for season four where we're gonna watch her and the boyfriend yeah no but that's the story arc like yeah it's like it's a happily ever after and like her and the guy like that who so the guy that she met um in the first episode becomes like her best friend they had like this sweet moment just like acknowledging how they've enriched each other's lives so much so it really it almost feels like she wrote it to be done and the show wasn't like canceled out of the blue like it put a i didn't have any questions i would have loved to see like bridget ever done her man but i was so upset and like justice for somebody somewhere even though like it's even wanting more it's good wanting more like normalize ending shows the way they were meant to end as opposed to having to be abruptly canceled speaking of i saw a new thing on net on Netflix. Like Schitt's Creek.
Right. I don't know if it's a movie or TV show starring Kate Hudson.
And she's like a big time sports agent, like girl boss. It's written by Mindy Kaling and somebody plays her boyfriend.
I forget who. New girl boy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Schmidt. It looks so good.
Like that to me, like I'm excited about because I feel like Mindy's latest project, The Sex of college girls which I still have to watch this season I only watch first episode I feel like it's like cursed and it's like I don't know it's no I don't feel that way but I am every time I start a new season of it I'm like worried that it's gonna be bad so I'm like I go intrepidatiously but I will be I love that show but this is the one Leighton has left she's in the first episode and they like write her out and then I think I haven't watched the second episode of the rest of the season do you know who's in it oh man I'm gonna blow your mind. You're going to be.
I love that show. But this is the one Leighton has left.
She's in the first episode and they like write her out. And then I think I haven't watched the second episode of the rest of the season.
Do you know who's in it? Oh, man, I'm going to blow your mind. You're going to be so excited about this.
Of sex lives? Mm-hmm. Who? Like you're going to freak out.
Kelly Clarkson? Honestly close. No, no.
It's somebody who like you love on the internet, but we happen to also know them personally from back in the day Courtney average fashion blogger I knew she was on it she and she was on a podcast talking about it she got like what it was like a rogue part where she just plays this like obnoxious celebrity sorority girl and she did such a good job they liked her so much they like wrote her into the rest of the season classic the cream always rises the cream always rises when I saw her I didn't know that she was on it yet. I literally was like, that's Courtney from camp.
We had to camp with her. I saw something on Instagram knowing that she was on it.
So I've already processed this information and it's very exciting. Yeah.
So that's on my content plate, but Ben doesn't watch it. So we're like- You know what you should watch? It's on the content plate.
Shogun. Okay.
Ben really wants to watch Sh watch Shogun Ben is obsessed almost to the point of like fetishes Asian culture like he just loves Asian food Asian people like so when we were watching the Golden Globes he was like what is Shogun I'm like I actually think you would like it like he loves martial arts like he really respects the culture so I was like fine sure let's watch it and we like watch a trailer on Hulu and it's so looks ben was so excited it just looks like something i would not like it's like a history yeah period piece and so we didn't watch it because i have final say these days okay but i would maybe circle back all right if you're looking for like something heftier maybe you have to watch a bunch of crap to then crave heft yeah yeah classic me that's what i'm at with my reading like i have started and not finished so many dumb fucking books because i'm just like i want to read i want a palate cleanser i want something stupid i'm literally like reading stupidity and now i'm craving heft so i started a new historical fiction book last night there's nothing worse a lot of good reviews than like being in a phase where you just start shitty books and don't even finish them and then i'm like well i just% of the shitty book. I could finish it.
And then I got a book in the can, but no, I'm going to spend my time more intentionally. And so I started a book last night and it's like, it's so heavy.
Yes, intent. But that's what I wanted.
We're being intentional in 2025. Okay.
We are being intentional, aren't we? 100%. She's manifesting.
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Our first story, wild photo shows Camila Cabello performing in a nearly empty arena. So photos have just gone viral of Camila Cabello's latest performance in a nearly empty venue in Atlanta, Georgia on Sunday.
The photos have gone viral in X. Social media users are saying that shit was empty.
They're labeling it as a flop. They shared a screenshot over the weekend showing that just around 30% of the tickets had sold out to the State Farm Arena show.
Oh, they spelled State Farm wrong. Oh, that that's crazy um another person asked why do some singers do this if you know you can't sell arenas why do them isn't it just extra cost for no reason and embarrassment however and then yes so she played to like a nearly empty crowd yeah then unlikely man named mod son came to her defense with some fire points.
He 99 percent of artists would have canceled the show and put out a mental health statement she just gained my respect by still performing that show meant the world to the people in the crowd that night empty shows are still shows he says you know what i actually really agree with him and to be clear like i wouldn't be caught dead like if like i would I don't know what the number is but like when I was on tour like you would get periodic statistics like almost every day of how many tickets were sold and like you know you would hope for like 80 90 but you would still perform if it's under like 60 or 50 then you're like so 30 percent is really low and yes most people would have canceled this and everybody lies like I'm really I need to take time for my mental health like sure okay the fact that she didn't is such a testament to a like the love she has for her fans and be like she don't give a fuck so much this is such an image obsessed industry like the fact that she did perform like I actually have enormous respect for I agree I went on a journey with this story and I'm not gonna act like I was bigger no then everyone else by being like oh yikes and then like yeah no my initial reaction was like could not would not will never be something I would do like that's just like embarrassing yeah um especially when people like why do you why would you book arenas if you know you can't sell arenas? That's like what happened with J-Lo. J-Lo.
It happens sometimes. It does.
Celebrities overestimate their impact. And so you don't really know how many people are going to buy tickets to a tour.
You can use analytics and your social media and previous tours. But there's no way to properly know.
That's like when Olivia Rodrigo did her first tour after she went viral. She did Radio City-type places, which are big, 5,000, 6,000 people.
But for her, her people are like what the fuck is this so yeah it's almost impossible to perfectly guess unless you're like at the taylor swift level um so yeah i could see camilla cabello's team like thinking she could do arenas and maybe in certain parts of the country she could like where her fans are most but not at length yeah no but then like someone like j-lo cancels gives like a bunch of excuses and then there's always like weaved in like oh maybe it's just because tickets didn't sell but it's not fact right so it gives you like plausible deniability and you could just walk away so at first i'm like oh wow and then i saw mods on i'm like check yourself he's right not mods on making us think literally they always do that they cancel and then they make us feel bad for them canceling because like there's something bigger going on that you don't know about and like i'm, I'm like, Oh, okay. Like, you're just complaining.
Like you had to pay for a sitter. Right.
And like, you're the villain. And Modson really swayed me.
And now I'm, I'm with Mod and I have respect for Camila Cabello getting out there, doing her thing. I completely agree.
To the people who showed up and not, not doing it for the people who didn't. Like so professional.
And did I think that we would all sort of like be humbled by Modson? No. And I think we just recently had a conversation about Modson on the show.
And I don't think it was like the most flattering combo. We were sort of like, who is this person? And you know what? I don't even care because this is a person who made a good point.
This is a person who made a good point. And put the industry on notice.
Yep. A hundred percent.
And I do, now that I really think about it, like this is, it's admirable behavior from one Camila Cabello. It's also worth mentioning that then people were saying this was like some sort of, not private event, but it was part of.
Corporate. Yeah.
An event for like colleges. So it might've not been like a general on sale to the public.
However, people were saying no they've been advertising this like all over atlanta for the last few weeks like this was just a concert the event type is a little murky let's say yeah they are holding space for plausible deniability with the event type yeah but she's like not even getting involved like you know what i don't think much about camila cab days. And let me tell you, there was a time where I actually thought of nothing but Camila Cabello.
If you guys remember, Lila's turn to Fifth Harmony, turn to those YouTube videos they used to post, turn to a band and then breaking up. Like there was a time where I thought about them a lot.
Now I'm kind of just like, I think I'm like a little too old for her music. But now I'm thinking about her and I'm thinking positive things like this is a true professional somebody really cares about her fans and this is something about sounds right like no artist would do yeah and i like that i just feel like it should be a lot easier to suss out whether or not this was a private corporate event where only a few tickets why is there why is that confusion yeah that's a really good point you know yeah? So, TBD.
But anyways, respect to Camila Cabello. Agreed.
Always like a good moral of the story. Respect to Camila Cabello.
Some of us have been respecting Camila Cabello. I know.
Like ever since she was so clearly like the best part of that band on X Factor. And honestly, I think sometimes Simon and the crew and his judges, like they put together a perfect band, right? One Direction.
Little Mix. Little Mix.
Oh, Little Mix was a, oh, I wanted to talk about something really quick. Pop Culture Jeopardy? Yes.
Last night, you guys know I watched Pop Culture Jeopardy, like when it first came out, and honestly it was really bad. I couldn't even get past the second episode.
But I saw, I got tagged in this thing, and I started DMing with this toaster who was on last night's episode so she DMed me she was like we heard about the auditions on the toast and me and my two best friends like they're like Canadian Jews they wanted to submit they put together they're like we didn't know what to make our team we almost made our team name girly swirly oh cute but we thought it was like a little like niche okay and

we did french toasters and then colin so i watched the episode last night they did not win in their defense it was the least swirly episode ever jackie i knew no none of the answers and the people who were winning the whole time were these three older straight men so it was like they were out to get the swirly old sitcom questions like it was so not their fault it was the dumbest question. Frazier? Yeah, right.
No, older, like 60s. Frazier.
It was so not swirly, like justice for Shane and the girls. But in the middle of the episode, Colin goes over and like talks to these people about where they're from.
And like usually, because they all have like such weird team names. He's like, what is French? You guys just like love French toast.
And they were like, well, we do. But we are French we are French Canadian they're from Quebec and we are like toasters is about like our favorite pop culture podcast and Colin was like cool and yeah it was sick it was sick okay um and Little Mix was a thank you for reminding me it was an answer yep yep oh my god what was the question what's the best pop group in the world to ever do it yeah no they just showed a picture of the four girls I mean like this group got together on x-factor uk like name oh beautiful the french choasters were properly educated did they get that one right there was a team next time I don't remember who was like I don't know if they listened to the toast but they were swirly it was like two young girls and a gay guy like they were just just like our age.
Like they were, those two teams were competing

for like the answers.

And then the random fucking questions

about old ass sitcoms and old Hollywood was going,

they split the vote, was going to the other team.

They split the vote.

Sounds like they were out to get the swirlies.

Just saying.

A thousand percent, a thousand percent.

But, oh, sorry.

What I was saying about Little Mix.

Sometimes they put together like a really perfect band. And even though Little Mix and One Direction, like, both broke up, I would still consider them to be perfect bands.
And even though, like, actually not with Little Mix, but, like, with One Direction, there was, like, one person who was, like, a little bit more famous. Like, everybody, more people had Harry as their favorites.
I do still feel like they were an equal band. Fifth Harmony, like, really could never get their asses off the ground because they were so unequal.
Like were people in the band that never should have been there and Camilla should really have not been she was probably like on the show for sure the most talented vocalist and every time they would perform the feedback was like Camilla slay yeah yes of you girls get it together like there's that famous clip of Demi Lovato being like I don't want to say but like one of you is doing a lot better than the others and Khloe Kardashian Khloe Kardashian was the host of X Factor which we don't even talk about enough Khloe Kardashian was like say it Demi say it and they started fighting Demi was like no and then she goes Camilla it was just like it was like this awkward elephant in the room and that's why like the band was destined to flop even when their YouTube videos would come out they would do these things before they ever released their own music and after X Factor, they were keeping up with their fans on YouTube. And every time they did a drop, it was the biggest deal on the planet.
Like I can't even tell you how I ran to my computer. And each YouTube video was like a different girl choosing a song.
And so the one that she chose like was gonna be hers, right? And Camilla chose Lego House by Ed Sheeran, which like wasn't even a song that I knew. knew jackie had so many more views than the other ones because like she sang the whole time like it was just it was unequal from the start yeah but the cream always rises then they broke up and then she's the one with like a real flourishing solo career yeah and the other ones who are good also have things going on and the ones who aren't good are just like seriously unwell yeah but um that was and that's and we can't even get into this like rabbit hole of normani but like that's where it's like difficult with normani because she when it comes to talent i would say she was number two yeah um but she like can't get her music career she was she's number two right yeah but that doesn't mean that's it's not saying much like i know but she has the second most flourishing career because she's doing something.
Okay, but if we want to talk abstractly about her career, Well, that's a separate conversation. That's what I'm saying.
That's a separate conversation, but she is career flourishment is going in order of the talent that you saw on X Factor. And I know there's like four other people on the planet who care as much about the early days of Fifth Harmony.
And seriously, i could recite all their performances for you and like if you know about that anything can happen performance on x-factor like you know you know right i know i do know i remember i was there and then camilla gets up in her tutu and she's like i know it's gonna be i know like chels i know it's gonna be i was so fucking jealous of Camille Cabello when I was a kid. But for me, that is a referendum on Ellie Goulding.
Like, to me, that's where I go. I don't disagree.
Justice for Ellie Goulding, more opportunities for Ellie Goulding, the songstress of our time. If it makes you feel any better, I know that you feel like Ellie Goulding is, like, completely overlooked, and she is.
She's actually not in the UK, which is where she's from. No, I think, like I think she's she does amazingly I'm sure she has so much money because like her songs are so commercially popular they're just like oozing out money um but I just do feel like we all myself included sleep on her like when I'm in my car like wanting to put on a random artist that I know I'm gonna like every song I don't think of her and that's a shame on me agreed you need to work you need to do better i need to work on that yeah i i'm not disagreeing with you you know what i need to start a list of underrated artists i can play when i need an artist to put in trouble that's a long name for a title i'm just gonna write artists yeah because right now it's rascal flats lady a gavin degraw kelly clarkson those are are my sites.
Okay, I actually have some more. I have some more.
Ellie Goulding. Who's next? One Republic.
However, the problem with Ellie Goulding is I can't just listen to all of her songs on Shuffle because she does a lot of like random remixes. Collabs.
Random people and like, no, that's not what I wanted. One Republic needs to be added to that list.
Okay. Do you agree? I agree.
That's like the elk of what you're looking for for the car. It's the elk for sure.
But that also would fall under a separate list of like albums. Perfect albums.
But when I want to put on artist shuffle and I know I know every song, it's a different sort of list. So keep going.
Anyone else? No, not right now. Okay.
It will be a ever-growing list feel free to drop a rec in the comments i love that and lady a there you go and then of course i always have my favorite artists like luke holmes blah blah blah but i'm always listening to him taylor i'm always listening like i don't need to be reminded they're actively releasing new music i don't, yeah, yeah. You know? Speaking of my faves, Kelly Clarkson reveals she just started her own record label.

And she's sharing why it's been a challenge.

I mean, because being a woman in business who's severely underappreciated by her country

is difficult.

Yeah, for sure.

So she revealed on Wednesday on her show that she has started her own label.

The news came while she was speaking with her guest, Kiki Palmer, of course,

about Kiki's own record label that she's had for six or seven years. So an impressed Kelly then announced that she had taken a similar leap in the music industry.
She said, I'm so much older than you and it's my first time in my career and I just now started my own label and I'm putting out my own stuff. And I've had some good teams like to work with, but there's nothing like being that 10 year old again and be excited and nobody saying saying oh you should do this and you should do that she then noted that people don't know how hard it is that that's what kiki said and then kelly said girl i'm finding out i'm putting together a music video and i'm like wait i forgot to do what she then added i just now started it i started writing and i was like wait how do i put this out now and then i was like well i guess through me oh that's interesting so when i think of like someone who starts a label i think of them starting a label to like represent other artists but I guess it's like a way of being independent while also having a label is like starting your own label yes agree but I think in order to start a label for other artists it's like you have to be on it yourself and you should work out all the kinks on yourself so that when you have new talent it's seamless here's your music video here's your distribution here's your release here's your marketing and so she's like being her own guinea pig no and I love that because like Kelly is a media empire right she has all the different facets but I will say like her music is severely underrepresented like her new music excuse me everybody's like since you've begun like you don't know chemistry the deluxe album like so I I don't know if like now's the time for her to be, because I think when you go on your own label, like Taylor Swift could release an album on the biggest label or on her own label.
She could go to the smallest, worst label in the industry and it would still get the same amount of listenership. And I feel like Kelly really needs to be propped up by the machine because people aren't taking, like they're now like people are paying attention with like her covers and a new generation of people, but they're still not streaming her new music and they're wrong for that.
I feel, I agree with you on your overall conclusion. However, I think the route there is a little different because I think the big machine has failed her.
She's been on all these. And she is the machine now.
She's been with RCA Atlantic Records and they've been doing her albums and they're not getting where they need to go. Yeah I'm down for her to try something different and the thing is all of her Kelly owned things like her show do well they do well so I think Kelly needs to be in charge of her destiny but I do feel like Kelly's Roman Empire are the music labels like don't forget you know behind these hazel eyes during that time what was it my December like that was a dark was a dark time.
She was like beefing with her music label, putting out music she didn't want to do. So I feel like her breaking free from this industry, like the way the industry is when it comes to labels, like it's very important for Kelly's self.
So chemistry debuted at number six on the Billboard 200 with 53,000 equivalent album units earned. Like, I'm sorry, 53,000 for America's Sweetheart.
And like for reference, like Taylor Swift's albums, when they get released, they do about a million copies in the first week. Now, obviously she's like another planet, but like Kelly's not that far off.
Like she's the biggest star. Like she should be doing 100,000, 200,000 copies.
Like somebody is actively failing Kelly Clarkson. It's not us.
No, no, no, it's not us. Somebody is actively failing her.
So maybe, yeah, her switching it up.

But wait, who released Chemistry?

What label was she on?

Do you know what I mean?

She was on Atlantic.

Atlantic.

And they did Meaning of Life.

Meaning of Life got no love.

Meaning of Life got no love.

Metacritic gave it a 70 out of 100. What? The album.
Which one? Chemistry. Excuse me.
Sorry. Okay.
I just feel like that's low. Who's Metacritic in this world? They're actually like, they are somebody.
I'm just letting you know. But it's a good question.
Have you heard of them before you just found that? Yes, of course. Is that like the Rotten Tomatoes for music? Yes.
Oh, you don't know metacritic oh oh you know metacritic is like a it's the rotten tomatoes tell me what else metacritic likes and i will say i think metacritic often gets it right i think rotten tomatoes is seriously like i live on a different planet than the people who work at rotten tomatoes i think rotten tomatoes audience score gets it right yes okay give me an example of an album that you think is perfect and I'll tell you what Metacritic gave them. Native, One Republic.
Native, One Republic, yeah. Our fave.
A perfect album. A perfect album.
Let me go pull up some albums so we can keep playing this game. No, it's so, by the way, it's fun.
Okay, I don't know why I'm having a hard time. Native having talk to text on my iPad is is really like I'm turning into a grandma I can't do anything without talk to text you can a critic I think you can set it up damn hmm metacritic gave native by one republic which is seriously a perfect album yeah know every song, even if you've never listened to the album.
You do. A 65.
Who is Metacritic in this world? User score, 8.2. So 82.
What's like the best Taylor Swift album in your opinion? Like 1989? Yeah. Like let's see what they gave 1989.
Right now, that's what I would say in my name okay by the way oh by the way okay 1989 has a 76 so that's obviously a good score is what I'm saying okay what's their top rated albums they don't have a little thing like oh sure sure sure Metacritic top rated it's gonna be like Nirvana you know like I need swirly edition I need swirly edition. Okay, yeah, 10 Freedom Summers.
I don't know what that is. Let me see if I know.
What else? Jackie, I actually don't know any of this. The Beatles? Fiona Apple, Brian Wilson, Loretta Lynn.
Let me see until I find something I actually know. Oh, Damn by Kendrick Lamar from 2017.
No, I'm not familiar. Okay, by the way, I'm so glad we're talking about this.
Bruno Mars. Number 14 on the list of highest Metacritic rated with a 95 is Brat.
And I want to talk about Brat. Who is Metacritic in this world, Claudia? I go back to my original point and I agree with my past self.
Brett while it felt like because I've been seeing a lot of the Grammys are coming right so everybody's talking about album of the year and while it really felt like Brett like took over the numbers do not lie like Brett actually did not take over like not even in the slightest um and I don't know like maybe it's because I'm so chronicallyically online and like this definitely was an album for the chronically online. And it very much existed like in TikTok.
And I don't know why I thought like maybe that happened everywhere. Yeah.
It seriously like was not even remotely successful compared to the other albums of the year. Yeah.
Yeah. I tried to tell you this in a delicate way, i'm i'm glad they reached the conclusion on your own like you know i've been seeing it on twitter people being like it's giving industry plant very much so very much so let's do an example short and sweet which is also nominated for the year and which what i think should win sales let's say short and sweet sales why do they make it so hard to find these information how many copies it is now sold over a million in as of august over a million units in in the u.s it came out in august great okay so in its first month it sold a million units you're saying? And now what they say about BRAT, which is older, and they're saying as of today, worldwide.
See, that number I just gave you was the US. Was the US in August when the month it came out.
Right. A million copies in the month.
BRAT, 800,000. And that's with way more time and the globe.
That way higher than i expected actually yeah well well well well well well who is metacritic in this world right so i'm glad we got to the bottom of that stream kelly clarkson are you ready for your due diligence do your part do your part yeah be the change you wish to see. Yeah.
Are you ready for- Do your due diligence. Do your part.
Do your part. Yeah.
Be the change you wish to see. Yeah.
Are you ready for our next story, which actually is a great segue number three, a great segue from our previous story, which is that Kendrick Lamar, who has one of the top rated albums on Metacritic, has revealed who his special guest performer for the 2025 Super Bowl Half Toim show will be. Oh my God.
I literally, first forgot that he was a performer Half Toim. I just want to make sure you know that I heard that.
They changed the name of the show actually. Oh that's good.
The Half Toim show. That's nice and I was just realizing there's only one more weekend like this weekend there's two football games and then it's Super Bowl.
I read this story and I was like oh okay in a few months like cool for the Super Bowl and now I'm just realizing like this is for next weekend the Super Bowl yeah so that's exciting like nobody's talking about the fact that the Washington I don't know what their name is anymore football club commanders they're still in it yeah and they're going against the Eagles right so we might have a repeat this weekend. It's commanders versus Eagles and the bills versus chiefs, the hail, I just, the tailored.
I know. I just want to say that I would have loved, and I know like divisional, don't get me started on the divisions, but it really would have been sick if the super bowl could have been bills versus chiefs.
Like we could have had so much celebrity like moments. And I think of these four teams, as somebody who's like been paying attention to to football like the two best teams out of these four are the bills and the chiefs like they should be playing each other like seriously who are the commanders in this world it's and i don't i don't want to come for the washington state swirlies because like last year i came for the detroit swirlies and they got mad but i'm just saying like seriously in this narrative like who are you can i ask a really crazy this far.
Can I ask a really quick question based on like what you just said? The Washington commanders are from Washington state, not DC. That would be really crazy if they were from DC.
I think they're the DC. Like it's not even a state.
No, no, Claudia. I think they're the DC Washington commanders.
Don't ask me why I think that. But that's just always like something I've held true.
In the Washington metropolitan area. What does that mean? Oh, D.C.
Oh my God, you're right. Wait, that is so crazy.
And so does Washington State have a football team? No, the Seattle Seahawks do. So I guess that represents the entire Pacific Northwest.
Yeah, but that does Portland, Oregon. That does whole that whole purple haired crew for sure but so washington state does have a team because seattle is in washington oh right it is yeah that's such a good call thanks for bringing that up um and yeah the commanders are out of dc like this is crazy to me because when i think of like all the teams like in my area like my region like i think of the patriots i think of Boston's Jets Giants the Boston's yeah um and I just would never think the Eagles yeah I would never think of like DC like I think of all the places you could take a train to in New York that's like an hour two hours Philly Boston DC you tell me there's a and that's like so weird DC is like not a state.
No, it's not a state. It's a metropolitan.
It is? It's a capital. District of Columbia.
It's a compact city is what Google says on the Potomac River. It's a district of Columbia.
Well, that's true, actually. It's also home to iconic museums.
Do you know what? I know that the Washington commanders are going to go through another name change. Have you heard about this? They're like, they're not loving.
I've heard that they are like feeling something different. I just want to nominate the Ross Washingtons.
Oh, I love it. Because they were the Arskins, right? And then there was like a lot of pressure.
So I think they just automatically were like, shit, okay, Washington Football Club. Yeah, while we are in transition, like this will be- And that was just a bad name because like a football club is a soccer team.
Like everybody knows that. Right.
So now they're the commanders, which is just like an actual like bad choice. And I think that it often the names really represent the city culture of D.C.
So it should be like the Washington politicians. Like the Washington Monuments.
Senators. Oh, I like that.
The Monuments. Or the Washington Georges.
Do you not like the Senators? I do like the Senators. I like it too.
I like that too. I think there's actually, there's actually a lot.
We just laid out a lot of really good options and you guys went with commanders. The presidents.
No, that doesn't like roll off the tongue. I think that's what the commanders was meant to be, like commander in chief.
Actually, now that I think about it. Oh, it's bad.
Literally nobody calls the president the commander in chief. Like that's super crazy to say.
They could have been the chiefs. It could.
Oh my God. Imagine if it's bad literally nobody calls the president the commander in chief like that's super crazy to say like it could have been the chiefs it could oh my god imagine if it's the commanders versus the chiefs in the super bowl it's the commanders and chiefs that would be actually a good game i am rooting for well now i can find solace if that's the duo that makes it i feel like all these different combinations and permutations like do leave room for excitement like i would of course be excited the chiefs go to super bowl lure at the super bowl i would be excited if the bills go to the super bowl one like for the bills fans like they really deserve they deserve it and two for hailey steinfeld like she deserves her moment she's been like waiting in the wings so that's a percent i'm happy with either and then the eagles uh i would be happy i don't want to i actually don't want to like awaken the beast that is the eagle's no i was about to say something nice oh i like i love the eagles i happen to think it's not their time so i would be happy if the eagles played the chiefs again that would be like funny brotherly love even if he doesn't play anymore but yeah no but he would he's so eagles and then kylie could root for her team like it's cute and it would literally be like battle of the podcasts then if the commanders play the chiefs and we're commanders and chiefs like it yeah if the commanders play the bills i'll have to find an angle watch that's the one that's gonna be so this commanders versus eagles games like i i just i can't see either of these teams winning do you know what i mean i can't see the commanders winning i know but they're also just so new to me like i'm now they felt so far i literally thought they were in the other corner of the country and they're literally right here.
They're right in your backyard. You're actually like a Commander's fan.
Commander's fan, yeah. Also, Commander's doesn't roll off the tongue.
Like, go Commanders! Commander, because it's three syllables. You have to be like, go Manders! It doesn't work.
It doesn't work. Manders.
Anyways, Cissa is joining Kendrick Lamar for the halftime show in like a big way because it's being announced prior to right they're also going on tour together so this is good promotional for their tour and i do feel like because i was just saying i feel like the halftime show wasn't really like for the girlies before and now i feel like with sissa like they're bringing us in yeah i feel like i feel like um the nfl is like always plac to like their toxic male fans and so like with all these new girlies watching football this year because of Taylor and like the last two years like this was really an opportunity for them to like give us something and while Kendrick Lamar is a fabulous performer he's not for the girls no and no girls like Kendrick Lamar not saying girls don't like Kendrick Lamar girls like boys and boys like girls, but it's not like that wasn't a choice for the girlies.

Right. like Kendrick Lamar not saying girls don't like Kendrick Lamar girls like boys and boys like girls but it's not like that wasn't a choice for the girlies right and like I think that had they given us like Carrie Underwood or something like really swirly they would have or god forbid Kelly Clarkson getting the credit that she deserves if or pink like if they had given us someone um the toxic fans would have been like oh girls ruining the football like so I think that this is their way of placating to both.
SZA and Kendrick Lamar do have two songs together. So I'm sure that's how they'll transition.
So for someone like me, who doesn't like to listen to Kendrick Lamar, but I fuck with SZA. I feel like I'll know more songs now.
Yeah too and I'm hoping this is giving like J-Lo and Shakira being billed together even though like it's Kendrick's show from the jump J-Lo and Shakira were billed together this is like Kendrick's show I'm bringing out SZA and it's going to be more than in just like a flash appearance sort of way because they're promoting it beforehand so I think I think that's exciting and I think that Kelly should actually with her new label like she this needs to be on her vision board yeah literally like she is the queen of the network that hosts the Super Bowl like it's absurd it's absurd she should also I think team up with someone who would cover the areas no I think a man who she likes working with who would cover the areas that are like you mean demographic wise blind spots for Kelly's audience yeah okay but the thing is like if they actually did like a half Kelly Clarkson half pink one between the two of them so many like mainstream songs that like even like this most stubborn guy would know and I think I think they actually both make up for like Kelly's music is very soulful.

I wouldn't say it's like pussy pop and pink is like rock.

So it's really like genre wise.

I think they would cover a lot of bases too.

They're the same genre.

And I think pink.

No,

they're not.

They're not do it on her own.

They both could.

I don't know.

Nobody's big.

I like,

I just don't know if Kelly like covers enough.

No,

but I think we're not because when we think of Kelly,

like we think of our faves,

but like, you have to think of like, Oh gee, OG Kelly how many songs are performed in a Super Bowl maybe 15 oh okay I was gonna say 10 first but I felt what doesn't kill you makes you stronger that's not the Super Bowl performance I want uh no I know but that's what it is with the Super Bowl like people play their worst songs since you've been gone behind these hazel eyes because of you miss independent miss independent breakaway she would have to do what's her american idol song miss uh breakaway no no no like time lifetime some people play a moment like this a moment like this seven okay let me look i'm sure and then like the ones that we know like piece by piece you think she could do she could not sing piece by piece at the super bowl halftime show but she could broken and beautiful is really big yeah um heartbeat song you think that's big or is it just big for us i dare you to love she would 100% do that one. So what am I up to now? I'm definitely up to- 10, nine.
Missed it, no, we're all, well, yeah. Oh, my gosh.
Catch my breath. Claudia, like, seriously, this isn't fair to me.
Jackie, wait. This is how it would start.
People like us. Claudia, I was just about to start with people like us.
Just wait, and then it's like. No, I don't think it would be like that.

People like us.

People like us.

We got to stick together.

Keep your head up.

Nothing lasts forever.

Seriously.

That's not how I see it.

If you ever want to go for a run, but like physically feel unable, listen to that song.

It starts like this.

Kelly Clarkson in front of an American flag.

No. Chills.
No music. A music acapella love straight raw dog people like us we gotta stick together keep a message of unity keep your head up nothing lasts forever boom then into something else maybe okay not only was yours incredibly similar to mine, so you actually just stole it.
No, you turned yours into a remix. I'm saying no.
It's more of an anthem. It wasn't a remix.
Oh, I'm sorry. No, it wasn't a remix.
You were doing the Ben Soffer. No, no, no, no.
Oh my God. No, no, no.
I was saying, people like us. Silence.
She's teasing. We gotta stick together.
You know what I mean? Like building a pipe. I think she could do it.
And of course, Pink, raise your glass. I can't even have this conversation because I want to try and remain positive for the halftime show that we are getting.
I know, I know. We're going to walk into it disappointed.
Are you ready for our next story, number story number four no is it the next story that's brought to you by HGTV's fabulous new show that was actually made for Tony Luash right the flip-off yes okay so I talked about this a couple of days ago but coming up and I feel like it's what everybody in pop culture is talking about HGTV like had the opportunity to do the funniest thing ever let me tell you, they went and did that. So they have a new show called The Flip Off, which is a competition style series where, you know, they're facing off and flipping houses.
But there's so much subtext here because starring in the show are three people who absolutely mean the world to me and who are my personal Roman empires. It's Christina Hack, Tariq El Moussa, and Heather Rae El Moussa.
So the goal of the show is like a competition style show where they're each going to flip a house and then see who can win. So it's Tariq and Heather versus Christina.
Her man like is a part of it. It gets kind of complicated because there's more drama over there, but they're basically flipping houses and see who can make like the biggest return on their investment for like, you know, flipping it for the least amount of money and selling it for the most amount of money.
So it's like that classic HGTV shtick where it's like we're seeing people build pretty houses and like, you know, things we would want to do to our house but never would do. But then it's also like a kind of juicy reality show because there's like so much between these three.
Yeah, it's layered. So it's really, it's HGTV at its best with that epic competition series, stunning transformations, competitive banter.
But actually the show gets really raw. I saw the first episode of premieres next week and let me tell you, I won't spoil it, but like it's really crazy.
And I think that we talk about these three like in the context of pop culture so much and it seems like it's so dramatic and then like seeing behind the curtain, like it's actually more dramatic than you would think. Right.
And also they actually are very much in each other's lives. Like they are with interfacing every single day and it's like, what did those interactions actually look like? Well, now there's a show and we're gonna find out.
And the show also chronicles like Christina, who we all know was recently divorced, like the end of her marriage and like her talking to Tariq about that. Like it's actually really deep.
And then the show is just like, you know, fun, swirly HGTV. celebrity friends jumping in with the results it's really fun the drama is there um and i also love that heather is a part of it because i think we forget because i know her that's like a reality star but she is like a she comes from a real estate background she comes from a real estate background like they kind of nailed this and this is something i feel like we would have said on the show like hgtv should give these to show and like it would have been one of our free ideas that nobody listens to but this is such a good idea they took the initiative they're giving us everything that they want and they're also like bringing the three of them together and it looks from the outside like it's a pargy little blended family well there's like a lot of speculation about what goes on with these this crew because on social media like they're actually always together so this is the first time I think viewers are gonna get like a real inside look people who are obsessed with the El Moussa clan which obviously obviously we would count ourselves among them also it's the blended sequel that we've been asking for correct um so it's just really brilliant it's uh it's really fun I saw the first episode and I won't spoil who won the flip-off but it's really fabulous and Christina and Heather both have like really different styles for like houses too so if you're just like into home decor it's really fun so the flip-off premieres January 29th um and it's on Wednesdays at 8 7 central on HGTV you don't want to miss it it's actually like the most toast-coated show on the planet seriously it's like if we had had a network and we always were like what would our first show be we would have come up with this idea 100 like there couldn't be a better show for us and our interest and there also couldn't be a better podcast for them to be advertising on it's so no whoever whoever idea it was like to make the show and then promote it here obviously listens to the show it has to go on the toasty lions list yes Yes.
By the way, this goes on the Toasty Lions list. It's brilliant marketing.
Of excellence in advertising. Mm-hmm.
The flip off X the toast. The flip off X the toast.
You know how I can search it? By Lindsay Hubbard. Toasty Can Lion Awards for brand partnerships.
I remember the list. It's Lindsay Hubbard and the dress company, right? For her wedding dress.
Kleinfeld's again. And then it's the guy from Smart House partnering up with like a ring doorbell type of company.
Yeah, they have like housewares that like make your house smart. Yeah.
Genius. Genius.
Okay, other big collaboration news Sutton Foster Ben Platt Rachel Zegler and more are joining Trisha Paytas's Broadway show yes that is a real headline Trisha Paytas is taking the stage on February 3rd for Trisha Paytas's big Broadway dream a one-night only musical theater extravaganza she'll be joined by several high-profile special guests from the broadway world including sutton foster tbd on hugh jackman but he'll probably be in the audience supporting his gal ben platt rachel zegler and joy woods it's called trisha paytas's big broadway dream let's make a meme come true no this is so funny in so many ways but and and not while it's like impressive the only real shocking part of this is Sutton Foster because like Ben Platt Rachel

Zegler these are like chronically online people who probably like know Trisha Paytas to see the

evolution of Trisha Paytas like as somebody who was so thoroughly canceled not only to rise up

from the ashes but like the levels that she's reached in the last month on SNL Broadway Sutton

about sir like you absolutely love to see it for a

Thank you. canceled not only to rise up from the ashes but like the levels that she's reached in the last month on SNL Broadway Sutton Foster like you absolutely love to see it for a creator for a woman in the canceled sphere like it's it's really it's beautiful I don't understand Sutton Foster being here and while I love it because she is currently like she is the darling of Broadway it's great for for Trisha it's great Sutton.
I think Sutton probably lacks like that sort of. Virality.
Yeah. So like I get it.
But I could see like Trisha Paytas like having these other people's phone numbers and being like, hey, will you come to the show? I don't know how she got connected to Sutton Foster. Right.
I do wonder like what the content of the show is going to be. It's like one night only.
So what would you do for like just one night? And I also wonder if this makes her Tony eligible. Give Trisha Paytas the Tony.
What if Trisha Paytas is the next EGOT? I could see it. I just want to say I could see it.
Like that's not the craziest thing I've ever heard. She just went on tour.
So a little tour. So I have to imagine that this show is like her New York stop stop you think no I think I the I mean maybe you're right but just the vibe I got it's that her it's like her dream to be on Broadway and this will be like a special Broadway show I'm sure it'll be special but I think the core of the show which she it was like it wasn't like it was a rehearsed choreograph she had dancers and outfits it's like it's a musical about her journey on the internet it was very funny oh I think that it's gonna be that oh yeah that makes complete sense I didn't realize that's what she was doing on tour so now she'll do it on Broadway it's just like if we did a jizz no like on Broadway then we're on Broadway of course no and when you like book a theater in New York if you're like a performer who does live podcasting or stand-up like one of the theaters that is an option for you to perform at it like a Broadway theater.
And then you make it like a whole thing. Like, yeah, we're on Broadway.
Yeah, okay. I also, I actually, now that I think about it, I do kind of understand Sutton Foster being here.
Sutton Foster's having like a little bit of a moment because Younger was just added to Netflix. And I think that while that show obviously meant a lot to us, at the time it was on Lifetime Network.
It was like this attempt by Lifetime to like renew. And while the show was successful, I don't think this like big Lifetime campaign was.
So people don't actually really know it. And I think that it being on Netflix, and it's in the top, I see it now when I'm scrolling.
I think she's being introduced to a whole new audience of people, probably who overlap with Trisha Paytas' fans. So I actually think this might be like having related to that.

Interesting.

Well, I'm happy for everyone to be watching Younger.

I'll be so curious like what the youngsters think of Charles and Josh and which team they're on.

Well, even like the toasters who like,

I would assume if you listen to the toast, you know Younger.

I saw people posting in the Facebook group being like,

oh my God, Jackie and Claudia keep talking about Sutton Foster.

I have no idea who that is, but I just started watching Younger

and like that's who's dating Hugh Jackman. That's who's dating Hugh Jackman.
And by the way, Hugh Jackman is Charles. Yeah.
Hugh Jackman is Charles. Yeah.
And yeah, I'm looking forward to what like the younger audience thinks of because Younger and Charles and Josh is like the younger version of Big and Aiden from Sex and the City. Oh, but ooh, yes.
It is. Oh, it 100% is.
I think Big and Aiden are more similar than charles and josh like i think oh yeah yeah yeah i think like really there are two types of like team josh people and team charles people like you are so different but the case could be made because i'm like i guess i'm team big but like big didn't like her so like by the way i'm team neither like seriously no actually i don't think either of them were i don't think carrie was good enough for either like i don't think carrie was good enough for aiden but like no she definitely wasn't yeah i don't think they would have made each other happy and also i don't this is not about watch what happens next in five years in five years and just like that i'd like watch what happens next me too um because i don't know like carrying aiden up together but the show that we watched sex in the city like she could not have given aiden like the life that he wanted no she would if she had like truly kept him and and she could have she would have ruined his life yeah the best thing carrie ever did for aiden was cheat on him because it gave him really no choice even when when they got back together afterwards, like you never really, he never got over it. So it was the best thing because he was forced to move on and he went on and had three beautiful children with that lady named Kathy.
Like it was good. Yeah.
And Big, like, yeah, he didn't like her and he was like this miserable wench, but like so was she. That's what she wanted.
Yeah, it's so true. It's like, you want it so bad, good.
You got it. That's what you got.
With Charles and Josh, and Josh like they were so different it's true and they both love Liza they both love Liza so she's not like choosing a guy who's bad for her they're both good for her and they both love her but it's just like what does your dream life look like and I think that it really just speaks to the type of person you are if you like because I and I don't want to spoil it for anybody who hasn't seen the show so I won't but like I was like I'm a Charles girl and that's because I'm in love with Peter Herman who plays Charles because he's married to like the Queen of America Mariska Hargitay but listen different strokes like seriously if Josh like ever came up to me in a bar I'd be like get the fuck away from me do you know what I mean no but for so many people like josh is a dream man yeah i know

and they're not i think it marks a cultural no it mole i think it marks a cultural and a real generational difference because like within the men in our own generation there is divide but also like the the heartthrob of sex in the city like was big because like at the time that's what an attractive man looked like. That's what a man, like a bachelor, but same for Aiden, same for Aiden.
Like he's a very, so that's why it's just not totally comfortable. Anyways, but he was just like a little bit more rugged, you know, watch the show, drop a comment.
Team Charles or team Josh will judge accordingly. Yeah.
Oh, and by the way, I judge like when I was in high school, you know, friends is Team Josh. And, like, and now I understand her, like, more as a person.
Who? Rebecca is Team Josh. Actually, I can do that.
Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because, see, I mean, also, like, we were talking about him, like, he's, like, a cretin.
He's so handsome. So handsome.
So handsome. It's just, like, he's younger than, like, it's just.
He's just so Charles. He's so Charles.
No, the thing is, is, is like when I was in high school, I was watching the Real Housewives of New York. And when Bethany and Jill broke up, like that was one of the biggest things that ever happened to me.
And I took it so personal. I'll never remember.
I'll never forget one of my friends was team Bethany. And like, I was so staunchly team Jill.
I actually started to look at her differently. Like I couldn't conceive how she disagreed with me.
And that's really how I feel about Charles versus Josh.

Like it's so obvious to me like that Charles is the one,

but people like really die for Josh.

And more so,

I think there were some people who were like team Aiden,

but like everybody was team big.

I think with Josh,

it's like actually 50,

50.

Yeah.

Aiden was really like Edward and Jacob.

Yeah.

He's just an interloper in like an already

written love story

like this is just like

get out of scram

totally different

but with Bethany and Jill

I know I've gone back

and forth on it

so many times

over the years

you can like re-watch stuff

you can see it differently

so I actually don't remember

whose side I was on

at the time

I feel like I was on

Bethany's side

because I remember

watching the scene

of like Jill

in Luann's apartment

and like Luann is like

shielding Jill

from like scary

Ramona

it was Ramona's apartment

yes

scary big Bethany

and I'm like

I'll see you next time. like I was on Bethany's side because I remember watching the scene of like Jill in Luann's apartment and like Luann is like shielding Jill from like scary.
It was Ramona's apartment. Yes.
Scary big Bethany. And I'm like, and I just remember feeling like they're being wrong.
So when I was in high school, I was team Jill. Like seriously, you could not pry Jill from my cold dead hands.
During COVID, I rewatched Real Hostos in New York. And while I left with a renewed appreciation for Jill's hour, probably one of the best housewives to ever do it, rewatching that argument, she was wrong.
She had a little bit of a leg to stand on and she took it so far that she ended up being wrong. Yeah, yeah, I agree with that.
Like she was the wronged party for like a second and she like loved being the victim. So she destroyed Bethany because of it and she took it way too far.
Yeah, agreed. Our fifth and final story that will lead into our tv recap southern charm was on last night and craig conover says that he would have proposed to page prior to the breakup he said if it was up to me like i would propose to her but that she

changed her mind a lot so in a conversation with craig last night we're getting like with craig and

shep we're getting more insight into page and craig's relationship and he was sharing how like

if it was up to him he would propose to her right now he's ready to have kids but he was like in the

grand scheme of things if i need to wait a few years to have kids with her like that's fine

I mean,

Thank you. Paige and Craig's relationship and he was sharing how like if it was up to him he would propose to her right now he's ready to have kids but he was like in the grand scheme of things if I need to wait a few years to have kids with her like that's fine but then he's like but what if it winds up being 10 years like right now he's like I would be okay with three or four years for like the dream woman yeah but then it's like but what if she changes her mind like what if it's 10 years because he was saying like you know sometimes she's like let's get married and move to a farm and then the next day she's like oh I had a great day in New York like I love it here I'm not and And then the next day, that's so real.
And then the next day, she's like, let's get married and move to a farm. And then the next day she's like, oh, I had a great day in New York.
Like, I love it here. I'm not.
And then the next day, that's so real. And the next day she's like, I'm moving to Charleston.
And no, something about New York, like one day you're ready to give it all up. Like you are just going to a farm.
And the next, the next day you kind of have like an amazing day. You're like, I can never leave.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. So he is sharing that she like changed her mind a lot.
And I think like their future, what their future looked like was never like set in stone. And it's like, I feel like this whole time we've been like waiting for them to like get to what the future looks like, which we all sort of like knew what that would be like for them.
But the fact that they couldn't align on it is really what ended things for them. But then also like that she ultimately ended it.
Cause when you hear this, it's like, okay, well then Craig got tired of waiting, right? what you think but knowing that she ended it no I would have kept waiting I think that she finally figured out what her future looks like and it didn't involve him I agree sad which is so sad and that's what we were saying like if that's the case that's the saddest way that this could have ended like the fact that it wasn't about you know timing it was just about the fact that actually this is not the life I want the person I want no matter like how much I do like you and that's that's really devastating as a stand of these two like that that based on just what I'm seeing on social media and in the show like that I think that's what happened yeah I think so too um but anyways the episode last night was really good JT is just seriously being a crazy person so Taylor has a new boyfriend and I can't I Taylor's really and I have a hard time getting a read out of a lot of people on the show because they're always cycling them in and out and like I don't have time to get to know them and Taylor I really can't get a read on because like she seems like so nice and genuine but then like she was kissing Austin lying to her best friend to her face like over and over again i'm like what kind of like nice like in a genuine type of way in such a genuine way like i seriously feel so bad for her um and i think she's just like having a hard time on the show so she has this new boyfriend gaston and yes his name is gaston yeah and so we just have to like talk about gaston in earnest like that's his name that's hard and Gaston has like history with a girl who just came on the show Sally who I was having a hard time getting read on Sally and then I saw that she was on The Bachelor and I saw her clip on The Bachelor and I had to watch it because I was I've been having a hard time whose season was on Clayton's season she comes on the show before even the first night of limos or anything she is having a hard time because this was the day she was supposed to get married. She was engaged in her hometown.
And I think her fiance like cheated on her or something. So called off the wedding and went on The Bachelor.
And the day of the first ceremony is the day she was supposed to get married. So she goes to Clayton's room before limos or anything and is like I'm having a hard time and I wanted to meet you to see like if if I should be here because I'm having a hard time and did she leave wait so they're talking and and she's very beautiful girl and so like of course he's like no stay I like you and he's like so much so I want to give you the first rose like please I want you here like please be like a participation award like no not even that like that's a big gesture as opposed to just being like be here stay it'll be good like here's a rose you're going into next week like I like you in this five minutes that you've been complaining to me like I do really like him and she thinks she has to leave the room and think about it and she declines the rose and she leaves honestly i love that no but like what what were you hoping for and she said like i feel this between you and i but like i just can't be here so like what was your express purpose when you went to meet clayton to see if like you would like him you just said that you would like him so it just didn't like it maybe she didn't like him and she'd run me maybe but it just like made me feel like what's what's this person's like desire end game and now she's on southern charm and even in the few conversations that she had like she was spilling all this tea to madison and page a few weeks ago and in every way like she was just saying gaston called me and they're like oh because she has history with gaston and they're like well what did he say and she's like he said to keep my name out of his mouth and they're like what do you mean like they're pulling everything out of her and I really just feel like she's trying to like make so many moments she keeps on she keeps saying I have Gaston's name in my mouth I have Gaston's name in my mouth like there's other ways to say that like it's just like stop talking about a little sexual yeah I'm talking about Gaston um so I'm just like trying to like suss out I feel like she also just is like very much doing the show thing and that kind of like is irksome to me well so you saying that she's it was on the bachelor gives me like a little bit of like red flag thirsty reality star but then her leaving like kind of negates no I know and if I I think someone who's been on the bachelor who then lives in Charleston is like a girly about town and is like in the mix right for the picking to be on this show like they're ready for reality tv so I'm not gonna like hold that against her it's just like something that I've

got to keep in mind and then our other new girl Molly who's just such a darling and I'm I know I

remember her and I saw that clip of Whitney telling her to stop eating the cupcake right and I'm sure

I'm not alone in this but like she's in her confessional has been saying really sweet things

about Shep like how Shep would be a dream man like he's very educated and he's very sweet and

like she would love to end up with a guy like Shep and right now Shep is dating a girl in the Bahamas

This is... sweet things about Shep like how Shep would be a dream man like he's very educated and he's very sweet and like she would love to end up with a guy like Shep and right now Shep is dating a girl in the Bahamas who I think this season and all season he's talking about how he's fallen so fast for her he could see himself living in the Bahamas just giving it all up like Jimmy Buffett on the beach like he's obsessed with this girl and I think from the second half of the season like things turn really south I think she's like been using him to get on the show like I think it gets like I think they take a group trip to the Bahamas like got it and I think it all goes south so like I know heartbreak is waiting for Shep and then in his confessionals like he's saying really sweet stuff about Molly because she's a trained tuba player she plays in the Charleston concert band they all went to her concert on last night's app and she's a former model she was on America's Next Top Model which is so crazy and she was she was doing her tuba concert.
They all came out to support. It was so sweet.
And, like, nobody does wholesome hobbies like that anymore. And I'm like.
No, that's really sweet. This storyline of Molly and her tuba and how she fell back into tuba, like, after modeling didn't work out.
Because she has a thyroid issue. So she's gained weight.
And she's, like, also feeling self-conscious. But she's also so confident.
And she's got her tuba. And, like, Shep loves a tuba.
And Shep really respects someone who would, like really respected someone who would like appreciate a woman who's like yeah he's like a well-educated so these two I'm telling you this is how the story ends Shep and Molly like I ship so hard I think I think they'll also see what each other is saying about them on the show because like it's really starting in an earnest way and I think that she would actually be a really great woman girl for him especially now that he was like ready to settle down with Sierra so he might be like looking for that again because I feel like with Taylor he just never wanted to settle down even though Taylor was like a totally lovely girlfriend to him yeah so it's all sort of a mess and I just feel like Taylor like so anyways Gaston like doesn't come on the show she doesn't want to hear anything like Gaston and his did in his past like how Sally had an affair with him and that's how their relationship started whatever and like i'm with i'm with taylor i think she should leave the show i just think the show is bad for her when she came on the show like she had a like a serious job and she and she was like a plus one so it wasn't really about her it was like she was chef's girlfriend like she's just going through it and the show is not good for her and now everyone has decided like we're gonna go out in on tay's relationship. And it's the one thing in her life making her happy.
Her brother passed away a year ago. Just like go be with your boyfriend whether it works out or not.
Like he makes you happy at the moment. Like please go.
And then they can turn on each other. Yeah.
Yeah. Now they just all talk about Taylor when she's not there.
Yeah. That's.
Yeah. So.
You make it sound good. It stays being the greatest show on earth.
The greatest show on earth is actually the toast. And something amazing that we do here every Friday is Queenie and Weenie of the Week.
Where Jackie and I give out two awards, Queenie of the Week and Weenie of the Week, to two different people, institutions, people, places, things, that acted like a Weenie this week or a Queenie this week. Now, it's not that serious.
It is a seven-day title. Although, my Weenie this week is actually like bordering on like honestly the title of weenie of the week might be like too generous but we'll get there I understand uh queenie first of course we always start with the good news um my queenie of the week is sex change operation like the way that song has actually brought me so much joy and like all the clips like the amount of content I've consumed like engaging with it I actually now I kind of like the song and I understand why it's nominated for an Oscar and I really like it like I just was watching this hilarious video of Katya and Trixie like listening to it for the first time like seeing people have that experience like it's exchange operation and I love that they've now been nominated for so many oscars because like it's going to continue to be a part of the conversation is that specific song nominated for an oscar oh that's a good question i'm not sure but i like the film is and to me the film is that one it's like would they be playing that maybe that's why they canceled performances because like the world couldn't handle because they would have to have to, right, because it would be like so glaringly obvious.

Maybe that's why they, because they have two songs from Amelia Perez nominated.

And I just want to say, Amelia Perez was one nomination away from tying with the most nominated Oscar movie of all time.

Which is what?

I don't know.

The Wizard of Oz?

Probably like, I mean.

Gone with the Wind.

Most nominated, 14 Oscars though is the most.

And it goes to.

And they have 13.

13 nods for Amelia Perez.

The previous record holders were Roma and Cratching Tiger Hidden Dragon with 10 each.

Wait, who has 14 Oscars?

Oh no, All About Eve, Titanic, and La La Land.

Titanic, are you kidding me? Titanic and Amelia Amelia Perez and right those people died for what to be compared to Amelia Perez spot the difference I can't who's your queenie my queenie was Carrie Underwood for her rendition of America the Beautiful going at acapella queenie behavior that actually was queen that was like very much Queenie behavior. Hold on.
Also, honestly, honorable mention to Camila Cabello. Oh, I agree.
Coming in under the wire. Yeah.
Wait, so I'll write down our queenies and weenies now, and I just am going to need you to properly title your queenie. Sex Change Operation song? No, you have to say it like this.
Sex Change Operation. And you see at the end of the clip when he's like saying he's like rhinoplasty yes reginoplasty yes yes yes and then there was one that she adam's apple reduction yes yes yes yes i'm telling you you guys it is seriously the funniest thing that's ever happened to me.
You know, but it's, it's really like, it's so crazy that that's, it's so crazy. One Oscar nom shy of Titanic.
Yeah. Who is your weenie? So I, it's like weenie doesn't even begin to cover it.
But like this week I've been consumed with thoughts of that husband who's sending pictures of his wife naked to his friends like now so if it turns out that he's like an actual predator that's obviously like bigger than weenie um but it just I couldn't let the week go by without like acknowledging this person in an official capacity no I totally agree from dear toasters if you haven't tuned into Wednesday's episode oh excuse me excuse me, Tuesday's episode. Dear Toasters was, like, seriously one of the craziest it's ever been, and I've been thinking so much about her.
Okay, I'm jotting it down, even though, like, my weenie now would just, like, pale in comparison to that. I know, that's what I mean.
Like, I'm overusing the weenie. Like, it's too big.
I know, I know, but I understand. I understand.
What about you? Well, I was gonna do like a Kyle Richards storm out, but like not after what you just said. Honestly? That was like classic, that was just like weenie.
But if you look up weenie in the dictionary, it's Kyle Richards at the spa day. I think you have to do it.
That's a great one. I almost made Garcelle my queenie because I had made her my weenie and I wanted to, she undid a little bit of the weeniness that she exerted a couple of weeks ago at that dinner when she was like inserting herself in something that really had nothing to do with her.
But sex change operation took the cake. I agree.
I think I need to see more queenie behavior from Garcelle for her to be the queenie. Just because there's been a lot of- But I could co-sign Kyle as your weenie like 100%.
Okay, I should have gotten first though. Yeah.
We 1,000%.

But we actually don't tell each other our weenies and queenies before the show.

We like to be surprised.

So there's no way to properly and like appropriately plan who goes first.

And I'm jotting down the herstory of weenies for 2025.

Jackie, that's beautiful.

Yeah.

So that's our show.

The next time you see me, I'll be out of here.

Like, let's just have one moment of silence for this place, okay? Should I sing us a song? You? Okay, you could sing, but I get to choose a song. Goodbye, goodbye, goodbye.
Bigger than the whole sky. Goodbye, goodbye, goodbye.
You were bigger than the whole sky. You were more than just a short life

I've got a lot to pine about

I've got a lot to dream about

I'm never gonna meet

What could have been, would have been

What should have been you

These four walls

What should have been these four walls

Came down around us What'd you call me, J.J. Abram? I said DJ Earworm.
I said DJ Earworm. There's literally no higher compliment in the world than calling me DJ Earworm.
So true. Like, oh, okay, I have a knack for music.
I've got a knack. Thank you so much for listening to the Toast and Land Morning Show where you tell me the fast five stories you need to every Monday to Friday on YouTube.
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Let's do the heart. Come on.
Try something new. Fuck it up.

Okay.

Try something new.

Actually,

it's better if we,

if only one variable changes,

but it's fine.

Love ya.

Bye.