Benedict Ray Cyrus: Tuesday, January 21st, 2025

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Good morning, millennials. Welcome back to the shows and happy Tuesday.
That has, you know, a different kind of energy because it's the first day of the week, but it's not a Monday and it's 11 degrees and it's just, it's unique. It feels like a Monday, but it's a Tuesday, which is, bless up, so fabulous.
Send your prayers to the sky. Hopefully this means the week will go by quickly, not to rush things along.
We'll progress in a way that I find unoffensive. Yeah, but you don't want to rush through things, even though something really exciting is happening next week, but you don't want to rush through things.
Turney's moving. I meant to acknowledge, thank you for opening up the space for me.
This is my final full week in this studio, which has housed us for so many years. And I'm not even remotely sad, but I feel we must acknowledge this monumental moment.
Yes, it is our longest running studio that we've had. It is? We moved in in 2020.
We took refuge after being evicted. On the boots of an eviction.
In the midst of coronavirus. Who remembers Turdy and Jax's eviction era? That was probably one of my most fun times.
No, that wasn't a fun time. Before that, when we were in that apartment like things were bussing and then not only were we evicted we had to go to zoom toast like dark times so this studio was our saving grace and we had so many amazing memories in that studio so many wonderful shows both together and remote and it deserves to be honored in a respectful way it true.
We sought refuge here and it was a home to us,

but nobody else would have us.

And while I am really excited

because my new studio is so much closer to my house

and I don't know if I mentioned that it's 11 degrees today,

I want to put, you're right,

some honor and some respect on these four walls.

You know, these four walls came down around us. Do you remember that Miley Cyrus song? Yes, of course.
Must have been something sent me out of my head. Oh, speaking of songs, I meant to text you this morning because we haven't.
The Toast theme song competition is completely over. Yes, that was on my notes of things to discuss because we have not, you and I, officially selected the winner.
So if you haven't been reached out to, no one has yet. I really, I have still two top twos in my head.
Okay, I chose my winner. They've been stuck in my head.
We will vote, but I'm sending you a picture of the girl, like who's my winner. Okay, I'll know who it is.
It's between, it's the same as my top two. I think so.
It's not like a third, right? No, no, no, like we I had three that I was like mulling over that were like I would have been happy with any of them you saw who I texted you I see it yeah like it's her it's always been her I'm sorry it's her yeah so we will reach out to her privately you know get the paperwork sorted out and then we will announce and then we have to start the process of recording. I've already booked studio time with the fabulous producer who produced the Grammy Award winning

song 100% by Claudia Asher.

So we're in really good hands.

And people seem really excited.

I know you haven't seen the fanfare because it's all on TikTok.

And we are going to talk about TikTok.

But people are so invested in the winner.

Because I did a minute TikTok last night.

I was like, it's over.

I think I know who I want to win.

But who do you guys want to win?

And a lot of the same names were circulating. My top three seemed seemed to be the internet's top three which made me feel good but also we have given away that it is a singular person and that it's not a man so in just our conversation oh my god fucking pronouns you're right yeah so shit I really wanted that tells you a little something no people are so invested my friend Sam stayed with me this weekend we had such a fun weekend and her sister called because her sister is a huge toaster and she was with her camp friends and they're all toasters and they were calling to try and find out like what I was leaning towards they're like have you heard this one and they're all singing it Jackie the people coming out of the woodwork first of all like random people text me being like I'm dying from this competition and to like people I know like Shannon is so invested being like I'm getting DMs from like local Nashville songwriters wanting to make sure that you guys see guys I've seen every submission don't worry about me my screen time this weekend for like a million reasons was so fucking high like I saw every single submission don't you worry my screen time this weekend was so high so many things were happening and I have to think like this was the biggest weekend in news like ever I have never turned on like cable news.
Really, I rarely ever do.

This weekend, like this was the biggest weekend in news like ever I have never turned on like cable news really I rarely ever do this weekend like it was constantly playing in the back of my house for one reason or another like the hostages coming home yesterday the inauguration waiting all day for Rascal Flatts TikTok TikTok like I had the new like the the news channels must be really happy people turned on their little shows yeah media is a buzz and that's what we's what we do here. We are women in media.
So we're breaking it all down. Are we making TikTok a story or should we talk about it now? No, we're not making TikTok a story.
Oh, okay. Like, I like how you said that.
Like, as if it was stupid. Like, why? No, because, because like the stories are like the fun, fodder, not like world news.
And two, we always keep putting into the pre-fast five. Okay.
Okay. Well, let me tell you my experience this weekend then.
Because I'm, and I wonder if other people are feeling this way. Like, and I'm a big advocate.
Like, I love TikTok. It's my favorite place on the planet.
It's literally my personality. Like, this affected me.
I was directly in the line of fire. And I'm, like, really getting to the point where these people are making me kind of, like, hate TikTok and, like, not care anymore.
It's giving fatigue. It's giving will they, won't they.
Because on Saturday night, like, there was lot of hoopla. They had said they were going to shut down operations as opposed to just like taking it out of the app store.
And they did. So it was kind of like this crazy historic thing.
I was with a bunch of girls on Saturday night and like I opened TikTok and it was 1030. It wasn't even midnight.
And they closed down early. You were making herstory.
It was really crazy. So it was like, it was just this like exciting, not in a positive or negative way, but just like an exciting thing to be a part of.
And it was really crazy to see like how the media landscape was shifting, how people were talking about it, where people were going. And it coming back less than 24 hours later was seriously like one of the lamest things anybody could have done.
Like it was so pick me, so like attention seeking. I was just, when it came back, I wasn't even like relieved and I missed it.
Like I was, do you know how many times I opened TikTok in that 14 hour span? Like when it came back, I was like, wait, no, like go back. It was just not, it wasn't giving, it wasn't gone long enough.
And first of all, I saw such like really crazy content from people like crying, sobbing, screaming, crying, throwing up. Like it really kind of put into perspective for me.
Like we actually, as a society could have used a break. And I think we actually could have used more than 14 hours, like give it 24 perhaps, like just so people could perhaps reset and touch grass.
So, oh, and now that it's back, like people are like, it's different. TikTok's not the same.
Like, and I feel like we hyped it up so much because I actually know what people are talking about. Like it's not hitting in the way that it did before because it was going away.
So we were all excited. Now it's just this like thing like- You old smelly old thing.
It's used, yeah. Like people are, and like Bethany Frankel's like starting a conspiracy that it's about the drones.
She's like, I'm not seeing any more content about the drones. Like a lot of people are thinking like Chinese Communist Party.
Like, I don't think it's that. I just think it's like psychological.
Like we hyped this so hard, and then it came back and it's just an app, with dumb videos. It's been really crazy.
And I actually, I'm kind of over the whole conversation. I don't even care anymore.
And not me telling everyone, because I'm kind of like a social media expert. So when I was with a bunch of my friends on Saturday, they're like, do you think it's gonna come back? What do you think? And I was so adamant.
I'm like, there's no way Trump is going to bring it back. Like this was his thing.
He hates TikTok. He hates China.
Like this is like, this is like the Trump thing. And I'm like, guys, it's definitely not like being so like speaking with such conviction cut to like literally three hours later, it's back up.
Like I'm embarrassed. He had said recently that he didn't want it to go away.
He said more recently, like, yes, four years ago, he said like national security issues. Then more recently he was he was like we want to make find a way to make it work yeah no i was just like speaking with like the utmost conviction i think people like you know in like the respect what i say when it not comes to everything obviously but like tiktok like yeah what she knows probably and i was like guys it's not coming back like say your goodbyes travis has never met taylor correct it's giving travis has never met taylor well i thought it was coming back imminently i did not expect it to only be 14 hours so on that i wasn't right either the whole thing was just like really lame for everyone really lame and exhausting and seeing the same content like from every individual over and over again like of them the screenshot of tiktok me the screenshot of tikt.
Adjusting to reels. Hey, how y'all doing? When it comes back, like I am moved on.
Fatigued, for sure. And like, as for the future of TikTok, like genuinely, I don't care anymore.
Like they've officially made me not care, which I guess is good. Yeah.
And I think, let this be a lesson to people who make a living on TikTok, whether that's like through TikTok shop or your content creator, diversify your platforms. We have 90 days now.
That's three months. Like really get to work because this is a platform that is like kind of finicky.
Like it's here, it's there, it's not there. It's China, it's America.
Like you've been given a warning. So now you have three months to hustle.
We could do YouTube. We can bring it on reels.
Come on over to reels. The water's warm.
The more time you spend on reels, the better it gets for you. I think that's what people are noticing.
And this was my biggest disappointment because I feel like it was such a wasted opportunity for Instagram because we have known for like a real month now that like TikTok has this date. the fact that Instagram didn't do what they usually do and just copy TikTok's algorithm, their format, everything, we would have moved over.
Like if it was even remotely similar, it wouldn't have been such a big deal for TikTok to go. But like when Instagram came out with Instagram stories, like we were all like, oh, this sucks.
And then we all just eventually transitioned over and stopped using Snapchat stories. They do this thing where they copy everyone and we all make fun of them.
And then we end up becoming, you know, primary storytellers on Instagram. So I didn't understand why, like, cause we were left with nothing reels.
I'm sorry. And I know you like, love it.
It is not a sufficient alternative to TikTok. Not only is the algorithm like not as smart, I don't really feel like it targets what I need to see.
The interface is not as user friendly.. Like it just, why didn't they spend the last month like doing their, you know, usual control C, control V, like copy that shit.
I thought that was like a wasted opportunity from the man who's like known for copying other competitive platforms. Why do you think that is? Well, I just have some thoughts.
Maybe a couple of things. First, I do think the more that you use reels, the more content is tailored to you like right now I like the things that I see but I also I'm not on TikTok so it's not like I have the two to compare it to I don't know what an even better algorithm well for me is but I also like that the algorithm on reels isn't as addicting as you say TikTok is because I will inevitably spend less time on it and so I think that's good why Mark Zuckerberg doesn't want me to spend more time on reels and doesn't want me to be as addicted, I don't know.
But overall, I'm happy with the product because of those reasons. Because of those reasons.
I think that I wouldn't have been surprised. I think what the cool thing about TikTok is, is that you're seeing content from people you really don't know.
And when you scroll your Instagram feed, it's people you follow. Yeah, they sprinkle in things you might like, and it's never something I would even be remotely interested in um I wish that they had well now the opportunity is lost but if they had created like a second feed where you could swipe and see like you know people you don't follow things you might be interested just like a feed of not you're following but just uh well when you go to your explore page and you and you click a video here I get so much like Sabrina oh yeahenter.
Oh, yeah, when you scroll down. And then you start scrolling.

I don't know who any of these people are. I guess, yeah, like that's their definition of the FYP.

It's just, it doesn't hit the same.

That's where you go for outside content.

Okay, like I don't know why I like only get slime.

I don't partake in slime culture.

There's so much slime.

And I don't know, it's just TikTok knows me better than I know Claude's self yeah and that's what I'll miss maybe well it's back yeah there's nothing to miss there's nothing to miss it's back we also I meant to tell you have your toasters today and they are so crazy okay good we also have a lot of stories today and I watched the Molly May documentary this weekend first three episodes dropped we're getting clarity oh it's first, it's first three. I thought it was three total.
I'm like, that's a lot of hoopla for, you know. First three episodes dropped.
Next three drop in the spring. But they showed the previews for the next three.
And there's footage from January 1st where she sees everyone seeing her kissing Tommy on New Year's Eve. Like the turnaround, they got me there good.
I mean, they are from Love Island. Like we are used to tight turnaround from these two.
And like you filmed this two weeks ago like put it on my screen it shouldn't be so hard that it is for other people like so here's what's going on between the two of them and a lot of it was shrouded in mystery in the early episodes and i wish they would have been a little more clear they're like what tommy did what tommy does i'm like what does to does Tommy do what yeah no I hate when there's

like this big thing it's like just say it so here's what I've pieced together he obviously has turned to alcohol since being injured from fighting and then drinking was ruining their relationship I don't know exactly what he was doing at family functions why she had to beg him not to drink at her sister's wedding what he would have done what does he do embarrassing like what like drunk or angry drunk saying embarrassing things like how drunk people do yes but I just don't know which exact one it was but like he was drinking all the time making like half the time their relationship was just so terrible because he'd be drinking the other half like she really loves him like really really does she couldn't keep doing the cycle anymore and she knew she had to break up with him but if she didn't announce it she would have never followed through with it so when she posted that over the summer it was like a slow roll last resort not just like Tommy came home drunk I'm breaking up with him um she posted it and really did it like to hold herself accountable in like leaving him you need to get help however throughout the documentary she shares like the reason why I haven't been crying and I'm not like totally a mess over this is because like I believe we're going to get back together so that like comes out later in the episodes and you start to see how like they're working towards being back together he's not in it once except for on the phone and just like talking about Bambi I think in the second half it will be more about them making their relationship whole again and then the first three episodes are really about her clothing brand maybe um and all the work that she's put into it and like the launch event and a lot of like scandal that it had I didn't even realize that she had a pretty big like oopsie with the brand because they launched these blazers that were like the hallmark of the collection did you see the blazers on t TikTok? The pilling? The bubbling, yeah. She said like the manufacturer, what they actually used to make the blazers was not the agreed upon fabric that she had been wearing every single day.
Like she was wearing her own blazer and it was just really a bad mess. And then they had more stuff coming out in that fabric and I think she had to cancel it.
I think maybe has kind of been like a complete clusterfuck for her. And I'm shocked to hear that.
I thought it was such a slight. Everything I've gotten from there, I love.
And I also now find that because a lot of it is sold out, I go on like Revolve and look for pieces that are, like even this cardigan I'm wearing today is maybe inspired, but it's Lioness. I started on Friday night, the Molly Mae documentary.
And it occurred to me, like as I started watching it, like I'm actually not a Molly Mae fan like I didn't watch Love Island I don't watch her YouTube videos I like her and her man as a couple and I feel like I like them like through osmosis from you and I was like forcing Ben to watch it and like I'm like when I force Ben to watch something like I need to feel really passionate about it and especially in the beginning like they weren't talking about the Tommy stuff and I was just like I feel like I girl boss too close to too close to the sun. Like this actually isn't for me.
Yeah. It's, it's very slow pace.
She is a comfort creator. It's not like comedy, exciting craziness.
Like it's just like documentary in her life, in her house. And like, if you, she's what's so remarkable about her actually is that she's just, she's a very ordinary girl.
Yeah. Like who has created something that no other reality TV store star or influencer has done.
And like, why her? It's so crazy. But like, we are, I am drawn to her.
I do. I don't need her to have like the biggest personality.
Like she has really lovely taste, but not so extravagant. Like, I don't know.
There's just something about her that's, um, she kind of sounds like like an equivalent not now because she's like evolved so much past YouTube but like an Emma Chamberlain like why did Emma Chamberlain out of all the YouTube swirlies get this chokehold on America she her original content she was like a regular girl who would like get manicures and like wear her hair in a high pony like she was not she had like a certain aesthetic that was like very like Gen Z, but it wasn't.

No, now she's like a high fashion.

No, but she has a big personality too.

And then she was also like dressing in a very distinct way.

Yeah.

I wouldn't say her personality in her YouTube videos that like shot her to fame, like was

so outrageous.

Like it was just like, if she was literally just a girl, like she was, when she was like

living at home, like when she really, like before she blew up, it was just like girly,

spoorily content.

Yeah.

And I think for Molly also, it's like about Molly and Tommy, but even without.

Thank you. literally just a girl like she was when she was like living at home like when she really like before she blew up it was just like girly spoiler content yeah and I think for Molly also it's like about Molly and Tommy but even without Tommy like it's really about her so what she's done is just

so impressive and she's also very much like a perfectionist like very in the weeds on everything

like a post doesn't go out on any social media account related to her without her looking at it

her she was showing her camera roll like she just went to take an aesthetic picture of her bath

like hundreds of photos of it like like seriously so unenjoyable yeah and she's like it gets to a place of like it's absurd and when we get to that place like then I just forget about it well I have to tell you that when I stopped watching Molly Mae I did watch the movie Conclave and I've been meaning to talk to you about it but you like ignored me all weekend because yeah you had a friend over congratulations for you. So happy for you that you have a new best friend.
My best friend was here.

And I absolutely have to tell you about this movie.

Okay.

Because me and Ben started to watch it, like, a week ago,

and it was just clear that it was, like, not a movie we wanted to watch.

And then I was like, let's give it a second chance.

Josh had told Ben that it was, like, one of his favorite movies of the year.

So we were like, you know what?

Let's try it again.

And I'm so glad we did, because I actually enjoyed it,

but, like, it was the craziest movie I'd ever seen. And I am going to spoil it so if you have any plans I'm watching Conclave just like who's in it no Jackie you're never going to watch this movie it's Ralph Fiennes and it's about the selection of a new pope it's like a hypothetical scenario okay I don't want to watch that yeah so the I guess I didn't know like the ceremony after a pope dies is called Conclave.
All the archbishops and cardinals, excuse me, from all the world, like the global ones

have to come together and vote on which cardinal they want to make the next one.

So it's very political.

You know, people have allegiances.

It's regional too.

Like the Europeans want somebody who speaks Italian.

The Africans would love someone black.

Like it's very, you know, it's a lot of personalities, a lot of cultures mixed.

And Ralph Fiennes plays like the deacon, the dean or something. Like he's in, um, you know, it's a lot of personalities, a lot of cultures mixed.
And Ralph Fiennes plays like the, the D the deacon, the Dean or something like he's in charge of the procession. And so basically the whole time they're trying to pick a new, I didn't like understand what the movie was about.
Cause at first I'm like, Oh, they're trying to pick a new Pope. And Ralph Fiennes, his team wants to put a Stanley Tucci.
And I'm like, sorry, Stanley Tucci is actually too famous to act now.

In no fucking world did I think Stanley Tucci was a cardinal.

And like when he was going to be the Pope,

I was like, sorry, it's just, I'm not seeing it.

Like I'm, I'm just not seeing it.

He has a good queer line.

Yeah, I want to say Stanley Tucci actually ruined the movie

with his like, with his own aura, you know?

Yeah, yeah.

So, and then they were explaining how it's very political.

Like Stanley Tucci and Ralph were like a little bit more like of a liberal, very modern progressive popes. Whereas a lot of the others were like very old school and whatever.
So they were just like, we have to- Is this a true story? No, no. So then like these cardinals who were getting a lot of votes, they hadn't reached the, you needed like 71 votes.
They vote every day. They do a vote until somebody gets it.
Then this guy was making a lot of progress. Turns out, you know, he fucks some nun and has a daughter.
So it was like all these different scandals. So I'm like, where is this movie going? Then they're doing one of the votes in this like special, they're under sequestering.
Like they're in this like secret Vatican room for weeks. One of the windows shatters.
Turns out there's a suicide bomber outside. I'm like, whoa, this movie's taking a weird turn.
So then all the popes start fighting because they're all on like different sides of the political spectrum. And they're talking about like other religions.
And I'm like, damn, this is getting like kind of twisted. And then this one guy stands up and he's like, gives this whole speech about like peace for everyone.
It was just like very like, you know, middle ground hippie. And the speech was so powerful, the next time they voted, peacemaker is the Pope.
So we're like, oh, okay, I guess that's, at first I was like, you know what, I kinda like that resolution. It's like somewhere in the middle and this rando who people didn't even know, like he didn't speak any of the languages, this rando became Pope, but it's like, okay, all right.
But there's like something sinister going on while they're getting ready to announce the new Pope.

I'm like, what is going on?

Where is this movie taking us?

Ralph Fiennes, who's in charge, his guy,

he's got like a spy who's like been talking

to the outside world for him,

comes with some information on the person

they have just elected Pope.

The peacemaker.

The Pope had this trip to Switzerland,

but he never took the trip.

Why was he going to Switzerland?

He had to go get this medical procedure. The new Pope is a hermaphrodite.
The new Pope has ovaries and a uterus. And I was like, me and Ben were like.
And a penis? Yes, so he was explaining his whole life he's been a man. No, like he had a surgery for his esophagus one time.
They found his uterus and his ovaries. And he's been struggling with it with his faith.
And he went to get the surgery. But he said, God made me this way.
I'm not getting the surgery. That's why he didn't go to Switzerland.
And Ralph Fiennes is like, oh, my God, we tried to avoid the guy with the daughter. We tried to avoid the guy who was paying people off.
We ended up with a woman. And that's how the movie ends.
Like, it it was seriously I didn't know where the movie was going the whole time and the fact that it ended up like so left field me and Ben were like what the hell did we just watch it was actually so random because I think about the whole suicide bomber plot I'm like what was the point of that like it was seriously the craziest movie I ever seen. I couldn't really come to terms with what I was supposed to learn.
So did you like it? Like, yes. Because first of all, the movie itself was just like, it moved at a good pace.
It was interesting. Like I didn't know about this whole, you know, what a conclave was.
I guess like some people know that word. I didn't.
And the movie actually didn't explain like that that's what that was, but I put it together. But the seriously threw me so it was just like it was so kind of crazy you know and so random that I was like okay like okay the Pope's a hermaphrodite like I imagine if I was like a Catholic I might have like stronger opinions about it but I was just like oh okay like we're just fucking shit up in this movie but I also like want to go back to the definition of a hermaphrodite if I may.
Sure sure sure and by the way actually the movie never said hermaphrodite. It's my understanding that if you are like medically like a certain gender but you have other parts that is a hermaphrodite.
Yes. I just put the label hermaphrodite.
I don't know what the other, I'm like 90% sure. Yes.
It's a medical condition. Does he have a penis? Yes.
And an ovaries. Yeah.
Because like your ovaries are in like your stomach. Like he didn't know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It wasn't until he said he was like 35 that he had to get this surgery and the doctors were like, sir, you have a uterus.
Got it. Okay.
Hermaphrodite is an organism that has both male and female reproductive organs. A hundred percent.
Okay. So I was right.
It's a hermaphrodite. Wow.
It was really like, so like when I saw this movie about the Pope, like I didn't think we were going to be going into the gender conversation. Like it was just education.
Yeah. And actually I've been thinking a lot about hermaphroditism because I feel like.
I actually feel hermaphroditism isn't a lot a big part of the gender conversation it's like no it's not completely separate no no I've been thinking about it because like when we were getting screened for all those genetic tests the um as I think everybody does this but a specific sect of Judaism we are very on top of it because of Tay-Sachs which is like a genetic disease if you're Ashkenaz from Eastern European and a lot of people with our backgrounds can carry it. And if both you and your husband are carriers, it's very dangerous.
So we get screened for genetic testing. We just did it.
And a lot of the genetic testings are about like gender and reproductive genitalia. And actually I came back positive for one that was like, if you have a boy, the boy's gonna have a big penis.
And if you have a girl, the girl's gonna like have a big penis too. Now it didn't end up being an issue for Ben and I, but like some of these genetic diseases that like they discover new ones like every day, there's like a thousand that you could test for and they're really, really rare.
But it's just been top of mind for me, so. Yeah, no, so it's basically like you have a baby, you're not sure what gender it is, but like you're like, you make a call.
Are you talking about her talking about hermaphrodite yeah no because it's clear what the gender is like this guy was born a boy he had a dick like they couldn't see the baby's ovaries and i guess like never in his life did he do a scan or anything where they saw he had a uterus like it was just you can function you're a man like you've like you've got balls in a okay yeah it was weird but the thing is... Not hermaphrodites.
Hermaphrodites are lovely. Interesting movie.
The movie, like plot twist. Interesting movie.
We're talking about it. Like I'm telling you, it was so crazy.
I was actually shook that that is what the... And I'm glad I saw it because I think it's going to be one of those Oscar contenders.
And I'm really trying to... I'm trying to make my way across all the films.
And I'm really doing a good job. So I don't think it should win anything.
And I certainly, like, not to be a hater, I don't think Stanley Tucci should win. I actually think Stanley Tucci needs to stop acting and just commit fully to being, like, a chef, influencer, socialite celebrity because it's overshadowing his acting career.
Yeah, I agree. His personality is just so big.
Like, it's not a knock on knock on Stanley's self no I'm not saying and it's not that he's a bad actor it's that he's so Stanley yeah you can't take the Stan out of Stanley was he wearing his glasses yes like it was just at least why is Stanley Chuchi at the Vatican at least take his glasses off that's. Like, and that hasn't been a problem for him

up until recently.

Like I didn't blink at him in Devil Wears Prada.

I certainly didn't blink at him in the Lovely Bones.

Like he is now reaching a pinnacle

where he has to choose.

I feel like he would choose acting.

I feel like he would too.

I think there's more money in acting.

No, and that's like who he is at his core.

You can't take him out.

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So, seriously, such a terrible thing to happen to a performer. Like, the whole world is watching, especially Carrie Underwood.
Like, you know, you take a risk when you're performing at an inauguration. You're gonna divide.
We're already so divided. She was already like this big risk.
And I know she like came ready to slay. And like, whoever was in charge of the aux cord, like seriously, the government is so embarrassing.
Like, this would never happen at like the Grammys.

Like, it's just, it's not even hard.

And the music started and then stopped.

And then it cut.

It was seriously just like butt clenchingly awkward.

I felt so bad for her.

And I was thinking, I'm like, this is like a Katie Heron, you know, moment.

What a bright time.

It's the right time.

And I'm like, if this goes on a little bit longer, she should just like, you know, start singing acapella.

And that's exactly what she did.

She rallied the room.

I'm not going if this goes on a little bit longer, she should just like, you know, start singing acapella. And that's exactly what she did.
She rallied the room. Honestly, thank fucking God that they moved it indoors.
Because if she was outside, there was like supposed to be like 100,000 people or whatever. I don't know how many go to an inauguration.
And there was no music. She would have had to stand there.
She couldn't then start singing acapella. Like she would have had to stand there and truly wait.
Well, actually, I think that would have been okay. And I think she wouldlla because I think I saw some people saying like the room was singing with her which was really nice but they were like all off key even harder for her to stay on key and given all of the trials and tribulations like it was getting a little scary there for a second she sang amazingly and we actually just watched her on New Year's Rock and Eve and I feel like we were saying like it didn't sound the greatest we were just saying like her vocals were like a little bit strained yeah um and the thing about carrie underwood is like we have faith in her as a performer because she comes from one of those shows like right when you come from a talent show like an expert kelly clarkson like you have actual talent there are so many singers who like come up out of nowhere and they actually can't sing it's crazy.
You can't win a competition like that. We have heard her voice raw many a time.
However, I feel like people's voices change over the years. People could lose their voices.
Nodes, you never know. She was struggling at Rock and Eve.
Like she gave a great performance. She looked great.
Her music was great. She sounded fine.
But like we know her to be better than that. She didn't sound like amazing.
And here she sounded amazing. Like perfectly sung.
She didn't do anything extra with the song she hit every note it was like seriously beautiful and I actually think overall it turned out to be a really nice moment and probably a little more impressive than if she had had her track and she just sang it so I think it actually turned out better than what it would have been but now she's being commended for like slaying it but also like making the best out of a shitty situation it was make it work moment i know she was like at first before because the accolades have really been overwhelmingly positive i know that like when she got behind that curtain and it was over like she was so pissed like she definitely was and then she definitely like heard that everyone was like no that was amazing katie heron honestly that was just like she said that was the best it ever went like yeah it got the people singing together. It was really like a beautiful, harmonious moment.
Everybody was singing the song together. Everybody knows America the Beautiful.
Yes. It was kind of like we should do it like that on purpose next time.
Now for her to have it happen to that song, I could just tell you like from a singer's perspective, it's actually a kind of easy song to sing. Like you can make it big, but it doesn't have any like crazy high notes or anything if you had to do that with the anthem and then everybody else is trying to like join in with you the anthem is one of the hardest songs to sing like so I'm glad that it happened with that particular song but beyond unfortunate and like I would like an investigation done like whose fault is this like I feel like we just moved on from it and then the music worked for the rest of the day.
But like, who, who, who? I want names. Well, the music didn't work.
I'm sorry. Yes, thank you for bringing that up.
We have to talk. Because part B of the story is other headline news from inauguration performances.
As we reported, Billy Ray Cyrus was performing at the Liberty Ball. All these balls.
Oh my gosh. Like, where was Rascal Flatts? You really shouldn't participate in activities where balls fly at our nose.
The fact thatascal and gavin weren't at the same ball and like it was so confusing it was just it was a lot as like a number one fan of both of them i didn't even get to see gavin perform anyways billy ray cyrus performed at the liberty ball or did he it was an absolute you guys disaster it was so disastrous and to be honest i am like now i never thought much about billy race sarris i definitely like a soft spot in my heart for him as hannah's dad on the show and then miley's dad in real life and icky breaky heart like he old town road like he's never given me reasons to dislike him no except for miley the devil don't need it to you and oh yeah that oh right oh my god i forgot about that that devil dumb slut miley oh man he's so crazy they've been beefing so like he's been a little bit on my shit list but I do hold I like I do have this bit of nostalgia where I'm like oh maybe it's just you know it's showbiz I think a lot of people have that nostalgia like for our age like he really raised us he was like the television he was a Disney channel dad and then for people older than us like achy breaky heart like yeah he really does have like ties to culture for a lot of different people last night last night ruined the ties were severed the ties were severed i actually you guys it's it is actually worth watching the whole thing first of all because he only sang i don't know how many songs he was slated to sing but it was very clear from the moment his performance started that he hopefully was high on drugs because if that's like who he actually is like that's best case best case he's high on drugs worst case like that's who you are so here's what happened and I don't even know what happened okay so he came out I think they started playing the music video for Old Town Road on the screen now I was watching a really terrible live stream that didn't cut it was just like the back of the room so it wasn't it looked like he was singing at the end of the song claudia's like what is billy ray cyrus doing i'm like he's not up there yet like we're just watching the music video turns out he's up there there's no lights on him he's groaning i thought and i was like watching it while also on my phone i thought i heard someone like mumbling in the background background. I was like, that's weird.
When you told me that, no, he's there. And then I went to a different stream and you see him and he is a mess.
Oh, my God. The hair.
Disheveled. The hair, the shirt, the scarf.
Like he looks like something that just like washed up on shore. At the beach.
You know, literally it was bridge troll come to life. He was wearing his crazy hair, a be, and then a cowboy hat, a jacket, a shirt, a scarf, and he kept taking items of clothing off and leaving it on the stage.
So when it was time for him to leave, he had to pick up all of his belongings. So let's talk about him leaving, because I don't know how many songs he was supposed to sing, but somebody clearly turned his guitar off after the first song because it was so disgraceful.
And I think they were hoping that he, he would just walk away. Oh, don't walk away when I'm, you could not get Willie Way Cyrus off that stage.
You couldn't have offered him $6 million in that moment. Like nothing was stopping this man from continuing to sing.
And he said, my guitar's not working. My guitar's not working.
And he's walking on the stage, like talking to people. Then he's saying achy breaky heart.
Like he said, whatever, we'll just do it acapella he compared himself to Carrie Underwood he said she had tech issues too oh my god I actually was mortified I could only imagine what it was like being there because and honestly like shame on the event planners for not getting a security guard and just like okay it would have caused a scene for one second it went on you would not believe I think the whole thing start to finish was 10 minutes. Like it was really long.
And it's just like, how is this still happening? We're like texting. I could not believe what I was watching.
And even if you watch it now, like you'll see what he did. But like that feeling of it happening live and it would not end was so crazy.
And he's walking on the stage talking to everyone. By the time, and security's coming, they take his mic stand.
They take his clothes. This guy was ill-equipped.
The guy was ill-equipped. He wasn't security.
He was like a stage manager. Yes, he wasn wasn't because somebody needed to give him a flask and grab him by the arm and escort because he kept going the wrong way whether it was on purpose or not he would he could not find the exit of this facility and he wasn't trying he wasn't looking for it no but even when he went down those stairs and he thought like he was leaving kissing on all the fans and taking pictures like he's Princess Diana.

Like it was so crazy.

You guys, it was seriously the craziest thing I'd ever seen in my life.

It was disgraceful, like seriously to every,

it was a slap in the face to every American.

It was in my lifetime,

in like in terms of like crazy performances,

top three craziest I'd ever seen.

Craziest I've ever seen.

Like it was traitorous to our country yes it was Benedict Ray Cyrus it was so crazy and now I feel like I have a lot more understanding because while we've gotten a lot of intel and what's going on with the family's Cyrus drama we don't know for sure we just know that there's like a divide between like Billy Ray and everyone and then there's also that weird thing where like maybe Noah dated her mom's

boyfriend but I now have like a deeper understanding of like how you actually can't

communicate or have a relationship with somebody who's that far gone and I have to imagine that he

was on some sort of alcohol or drug yeah because that's really not how human beings behave it was

I genuinely I genuinely hope that he gets the help that he needs because it was a cry for help

Thank you. sort of alcohol or drug.
Yeah. Because that's really not how human beings behave.
It was, I genuinely, I genuinely hope that he gets the help that he needs because it was a cry for help. It was a cry for help.
I understand now why there's this divide between the Pessire family. So I'm sorry, Miley, that maybe I didn't see it sooner.
Even though after we heard that clip of, you don't do it. The devil done made my daughter a whore.
What did he actually say?

He's called her like a slut.

A skank.

That devil skank.

Miley the devil skank.

That's what he said.

Now everything's going to be about this performance.

It should be.

I'm sorry.

This is like a situation where maybe it could be a wake up call for him.

But it seems like he's been on this sort of bender for a while since the devil skank comment.

Yeah.

So it was audio that was leaked. Andender for a while since the devil skank comment yeah so it was audio that was leaked and yeah he called her the devil skank it's such a crazy fucking thing to say about anyone let alone your daughter um like seriously jail for billy ray lock him up and throw away the key yeah so so crazy that was just a crazy thing and then jason aldean came out and jason aldean said he's like oh we got a little bit more time I think Billy Ray was supposed to like deliver like a normal performance of like a couple of songs and that created more time and Jason Aldean you know picked up the pieces that Billy Ray left behind so he was he's at least you know a consummate professional yeah he went on there like nothing had just happened even though we all saw what we only imagine what was going on backstage because it's really all country artists and there's it's a small circle so like everybody must be talking about it everybody must be Nashville is a blaze it was so wild and they like he's blaming it on tech issues like even on stage is he like even on stage he was saying my guitar is not working the battery's dead saying like it's the audio but like no i think that they cut him off the video was playing but they stopped like he wasn't he couldn't sing he was grumbling they cut him off because jason aldean had no audio issues or any issues correct it was what a wild time it was just the absolute craziest thing i've ever seen it was so nuts and it made the carrie underwood thing like look like not like a big deal yeah are you ready for our next story i am some fake news this morning but i want to see what you think because justin bieber is unfollowed big fucking news so everyone said justin bieber unfollowed his wife hayley on instagram and by the way i guess technically he did like yeah and then today he posted someone went on my account and unfollowed my wife shit is getting suss out here and when I saw on Twitter this morning that he had unfollowed his wife I feel like news like that happens all the time and then I go and check and the people still follow each other there's so much he did unfollow her yeah but when I checked this morning he was following her back so I was like oh fake fucking news and he released a statement on Instagram stories.
So I guess confirming for a period of time, he at one point had unfollowed. Yes.
His account was no longer following Haley's. Now, you know me.
I love to clown on people who like have social media faux pas and then say they got hacked. Like it's seriously so embarrassing.
But I don't know. I'm always very cautious when it comes to Haley and Jesse because there's so much drama around them always.
And they couldn't like seriously be more stable. Like they've never broken up.
They have a baby. Like time keeps proving them strong.
So I don't know. Here's what I think.
I think saying you got hacked is so lame. I agree.
Here's what I think. But I could see a Jelena account like in Turkey getting on the hacking system and fucking shut up.
If I had to make a guess as to what happened just like I did with Tommy and Molly Mae and let's not forget that like I completely crushed that one. Absolutely Slade.
Oh my gosh like soothsayer. To a T.
Alcohol. Soothsayer.
No alcohol and she can take him back if he can cut out alcohol and she's taking him back and he's cutting out alcohol. Clairvoyant.
Yeah so here's what I think happened here. I don't think Justin Bieber was hacked by an unidentified third party.
I don't even think it was a Jelena stan on in Turkey. I happen to agree.
I actually think that it might have been someone on Justin's team. Like he's got a like someone nefarious actor on his team.
Oh, wow. Who did something like this.
And he's got ties to Jelena. Who has ties to Jelena or maybe doesn't like H hayley like there's always like rumors about their relationship that i agree with you are like i think they're solid i don't think this is a mark on them as a couple i think it's a mark on someone who works for justin oh that's so funny shit i had actually thought like because justin is this like diva big star i could see them like having an argument like a regular marital argument and him getting mad and unfollowing her.
Like that's how I thought maybe that this went down. I agree.
I don't, I do not think he got hacked. I think it's actually really hard for a celebrity's Instagram account to get hacked.
It used to happen a lot. I feel like it doesn't really happen so much anymore.
If I were to hack Justin Bieber's Instagram, like I would post, I don't know, a link to follow at the toast. Yeah.
Yeah. Not.
And I'd say like new music, raising funds funds like people would literally donate and the person could get away unscathed like there's so many things you could do not unfollow the wife and I just want to say I actually think that if they got into like a fight and he unfollowed her like that would be really crazy and like a really bad sign these are you have to remember these are like Hollywood type folks like they do crazy things they do crazy things no but that would like that would be a serious red flag that's a crazy thing to do especially when you know the whole world's watching you want to embarrass her like that well I don't know how to make sense of this then because I happen to think that like there's a lot of hoopla around them but at the end of the day like they're a really strong couple and so I don't think that this is like a sign that they're getting divorced but like but I also don't think he was hacked so I don't know what happened here. I agree with both of you I don't think it's a sign of their relationship but I do think that a couple people have access to his Instagram and are messing with him.
One more thing about Conclave that just reminded me of something because. The Pope's bikini model.
Yes it reminded me a lot of that time that the Pope's Instagram account had liked the photo from an OnlyFans models account and we were all how that happened. And I feel like now that I know a little bit more about like the systems in place, there is 0% chance that it was the Pope himself.
And there is definitely a cardinal who's like a young thing who's like taking it on to be, I don't think it's like an intern person. I think it's like an actual, a man of the cloth whose specialty is digital.
And he was, you know, playing around with the girls. I agree.
It was not the Pope self. No, it was like, Conclave taught me that it wasn't the Pope.
Yeah, agreed. Are you ready for our next story? What number? Number three, it seems.
Oh, yeah. Some social media beef.
Love. Spencer Pratt says he has beef with Caller Daddy host Alex Cooper for allegedly refusing to promote Heidi Montag's song.
So Spencer Pratt is all over the interwaves, especially with TikTok going down in his big TikTok moment. But he's also sharing that he has some beef with Alex Cooper after she allegedly declined to promote his wife Heidi's new song.
He has made a lot of content about this. Like not only videos, but he also was doing an Instagram live, excuse me, TikTok live.
The night that TikTok went down with like Alex Earl and Bethany Frankel. And while he was on with Bethany, he was talking nonstop about it.
Yeah. And a few other videos where he explains when this started happening, he was asking everyone to post Heidi's song.
He reached out to a bunch of people. He said she was was the only one who wouldn't do it he said at the time that she had said that we have a lot of people displaced from the fires at our house and I'm like post the song girl he previously had gone on her podcast and I think he was saying like he's worn her merch like always supported and that he didn't get that same support from her like he said like she's number one the hit list now.
And we're also getting intel into this like viral moment from their interview together because there has, he had walked off the Call Her Daddy show. And I guess a lot of people thought that it was, up until now we thought it was fake.
I thought it was staged and it was. So Spencer is now making content about that viral moment, sort of pulling the curtain back and being like, yeah, I mean, it was fake, but like she did ask that question and like it was loaded and it was rude and we did two takes so like he confirmed it was completely staged what was the question does it like make you sad

that you will never be as relevant as you once were and like to Spencer that's like the most

hurtful thing you could say and so he like quote stormed off and he shared that not only um did

she she did ask that question which he found to be like really offensive um but they had done a take where he responded and like said something like nasty right back to her and they didn't want to use that take because they didn't want to include something like nasty that he said about her so he's just sort of like any sort any dirt he he has, like he's throwing, like he's done.

Yeah.

But he didn't tell us what he said back to her that was cut out, did he?

No.

I didn't see that.

No, no, no.

He didn't.

He didn't.

And then he was providing screenshots.

Like it's getting, you know, it's getting messy.

Alex has since used the song.

She put out a TikTok statement just about like places she's donating and encouraging

others.

And the song was playing in the background. And it was after Spencer already did all of this.
Right. So there's, you know, there's two things.
One, it's like, it's not like Alex was making like a ton of content and like actively not using the song. I believe that was the first time she had posted on social media.
Like she is in LA. She is like directly affected.
But two, like it's a low lift. Like just do it.
Like everybody was doing it. Emily Radikowski was like literally everyone everyone was doing it yeah that and that's just like what influencers and celebrities do for each other like I send you my product you post it whatever and this is just like a song and as you said it's a low lift yeah yeah um like this is not a time to be fucking around with Spencer Pratt like he's kind of got the world on your on his side he's extremely powerful right now he said he said respectfully if I keep my platform and I keep being an a-list rich celebrity she's so fucked because I have beef with her she sounds like you and Ben no he sounds literally literally if I keep being a rich a-list celebrity and so like moments like this are kind of fleeting for anyone but especially somebody who's like in the cycle of like reality star influencer it's hard to keep the attention of the world so the fact that he actively has the world on his side and he's, you know, it's kind of humbling to have to reach out to people and be like, can you please just stream my wife's song? So I get it.
And it's crazy. Like it's seriously the beef I did not see coming.
And Alex hasn't, she hasn't formally like gotten in the ring. You know, she hasn't responded she made the video sort of I guess like white flag I guess but he's kept going like he posted before she made the video she made the video and after still posting the video so that didn't move the needle for him I don't see her responding to this though I don't no no I don't see it either um I think maybe she like marks herself as safe like I you know all in all I did do the song I did do the thing you asked me um and she does have a valid excuse like living in la she said they're like housing a bunch of people i'm sure it's been like a crazy two weeks um but you could also make the argument that like you could have posted like one tiktok it takes like 10 seconds like yeah yeah you could argue both sides yeah spencer said that he's team sophia with an f now he said oh that was posted did it to him.
Not only did Sophia with an F post the song, she posted it like the minute after Spencer made his first video about Alex. So she like, she saw an opportunity and she took it.
Yeah. So this thing is getting, getting deep.
And also I found really interesting was the Alex Earl of it all. Yes.
So I was saying that Saturday night, the night before TikTok, as the TikTok was coming to an end, Bethany, Alex Earl, and Spencer, who are like three big personalities on TikTok, did a live together and actually it actively stopped. TikTok stopped.
It was actually, it was like kind of crazy. And earlier in the live, they were talking a lot about Alex Cooper.
And so I feel like for Alex Earl to have been a part of that, I think a lot of people are now questioning, like, is there beef between Alex and Alex? Well, I feel like the streets were saying that there were whispers that there's beef betwixt the Alex's. Because they were like everywhere, everything all at once, like doing events.
I haven't seen them together, like interacting, whether it's in person or even on social media in years. Her show is still a part of Alex's network.
Years? Oh, I'm sorry. You know me and time.
and time a year um to me like i don't see that as like uh necessarily a smoking gun but i actually think like going on live with like your boss's arch nemesis at the moment is very telling like that's it's indicative like this it's told i'm not even like oh it's smoke now i'm like oh there's beef betwixtickses. But I also think like the not showing up to events, I think that's like a core part of Alex's network is throwing these events.
And not only can you come and meet Alex, but you can come and meet all the other unwell swirlies. Like they just did one in Philly.
That's like, I think a huge part of their like business strategy. Yes, but I think that you could make the argument, maybe you are right, but I- For the biggest star, not to, she hasn't been to one in a while.
I would say the counter argument

is that she was among the first

to join the network

and she was the first one

in the early days

going to all the events

and now there are other people

and maybe they take up

the torch right now.

Like,

or there's beef between them.

Or there's beef, yeah.

But I could also,

I think a lot of these things

like can be explained,

but when you put it,

the live actually can't be explained

and Alex Earl like

keeps making videos with the song.

With the song, yeah. And that person was just like trash talking your boss and friend.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's definitely layered.
Yeah, it's a layered one. My coccidinia is so fucking bad today.
Like, oh, I'm sorry. If you're watching on YouTube, it looks like an actual grandmother is hosting this podcast.
Coccidinia strong. Thank you.

Me and my community really want to just genuinely thank you

for the advocacy you've done for us.

And we are going to give you our Ambassador of Hope Award.

Oh.

There weren't any other contenders, so thank you.

That's so beautiful.

Thank you.

You're welcome.

Are you ready for our next story?

I am.

Rachel Kirknell's sister claims that james broke up just three hours before it's been so long since we did a show like i forgot how much news there was i know but i just have to like put a pin like a button on this because until rachel speaks out this is what we know rachel's sister says that matt james broke up with rach just three hours before the shocking instagram announcement he shared on Thursday. Trinity, the sister, shared the timeline hint under a TikToker's video about the breakup.
Trinity had previously told the TikToker that Rachel and James were still together when he revealed they had separated. James posted the photo of them, including them meeting at the famous bachelor mansion with his prayer.
Trinity said that he had broken up with her three hours before he posted that statement um i have to imagine everything trinity because trinity's been making news you know and i imagine it's all sanctioned by richelle so for that like i feel good and my belief is that rachel and like as a follower of rachel i believe her sister is like in her content a lot like they are close yes no this is coming straight from the horse's mouth it's not like Meghan Markle's sister no Samantha who hasn't seen her in years right right and also another thing that came out and you know I had seen a couple of dms about this people being like actually I only got it from one girl it must be the same girl who submitted to Dumas she was like please don't include my name but like I am in Japan and I saw Rachel and Matt together the day they announced their breakup and I was like wait what and then that girl maybe it was the same girl maybe someone else wrote into being like, hi, I'm in Japan and I saw Rachel and Matt together the day they announced their breakup. And I was like, wait, what? And then that girl, maybe it was the same girl, maybe someone else, wrote into Dumois being like, hi, I'm in Japan.
And I literally saw these two the day they announced they broke up and showed a picture. So the timeline is coming together.
It's still pretty vague, but they weren't in London, which I think a lot of us could have guessed them having, but they were together the day that they broke up and they were also on a trip. That is really unbelievably strange.
And the more, um, this is just like, it's seriously so weird, the whole thing. Yeah.
And I don't know who's going to speak first. Given the track record, Matt, how, who we'd want to hear from Rachel.
It's true. It's true.
Yeah. So I'm waiting to waiting to hear from her the more I hear about the breakup the more I'm happy that they broke up because he she deserves something different you just really never know like what's going on because I think a lot of people would have considered them like a really really strong everything seemed to be perfect couple and not only is that not the case but like now of course people do things like nefariously but you know people go back and say well this was something weird that matt did and a lot of like his comments or things that you know pulled from a podcast like it's not giving like supportive husband yeah especially when it comes to like anytime they were asked about proposals it was very much like him making her wait and how funny is that huh it's literally not yeah but it's also like hard to judge that stuff like on its face because sometimes it is shtick and like you have like a a story about your relationship that you put out to the world but like we also don't know what it actually is um so I take that with a grain of salt 100 and it's not always in good faith yeah like I'm not fully like all signs indicates like Matt being the villain here but i haven't seen enough full 100 full proof like i need to know yeah i need to know more before i can really agree but it's not looking good three hours no it's not it's not are you ready for our fifth and final story if it's our fifth and final story that's brought to you by good ranchers yes as we welcome the new year it's time to focus on what matters most creating healthier habits enjoying more moments with family and spending less money on going out to eat good ranchers.com is here to help you with those resolutions and turn them into solutions by shopping with good ranchers you're supporting local farms across the u.s you're avoiding the chaos of grocery store imports and more importantly you'll enjoy stress-free delicious meals that let you focus on what matters which is quality time with loved ones and during their new year new meat, you can subscribe to any box of their 100% American meat and wild-caught seafood.
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Our fifth and final story, a little hosting news. Host for the Grammy Awards 2025 has been announced.
Oh. And it is Trevor Noah again.
So Trevor Noah will return as Master of as master of ceremonies of the 67th annual grammy awards for the fifth consecutive year he also will serve as a producer on the show okay next yeah well you know what i actually just saw i had two stories for the fifth and i went with that one and i bumped the other one did we did we learn nothing from nikki glazer like give it to the give it tonegade. Like, the same group of people hosting.
Like, Trevor Noah is now a Jimmy to me. Like, he's the host of one of those daytime shows.
Nighttime shows, excuse me. And it's just, like, it's boring.
He, they obviously like him. They think he does a good job.
And I think last year we said, like, it was totally fine. It was totally fine.
I do think Nikki Glaser will force him to, like, step hisi up because you know for trevor it's not his trevosi it's his tushy you guys know i saw trevor noah one time in real life and he had like a really big tushy it was just it's something that's spoken is it on the list maybe maybe yeah you can add it to the list of claudia's favorite stories we were at so i was having brunch and it was buffet so he got up to go to the buffet and it was definitely the pants because they were like tight khaki which is just a choice when you have like a big ass um and he's wearing a belt too that was like cinching his waist and it was just it was giving bbl like it really was it's already on the list I do think maybe he'll do a little bit more comedy now that Nikki Glaser set the bar so high but I do remember remarking last year was totally fine and obviously it was fine Grammys were fine with it so the Grammys we're not going to be giving like a diatribe like we did when Nikki Laser did the Grammys and then we Oscars and then we came on here and gave like a whole hour-long speech about how amazing it was there will be no such speech no I doubt it I mean always holding space like for the possibility but probably not Grammys are February 2nd so that's kind of soon. Sneaking up on us.

And also like the Oscar nominations keep getting postponed

because of the wildfires.

But I do think that they-

Yes but they've been given a date.

Yeah.

I think they're gonna get-

The show must go on.

There was like a theory that the Oscars

were gonna be canceled this year.

Oh and it was so funny.

It was making me laugh.

Not that it's funny but like there was a TikTok

from like CNN.

Like something legit that was like Oscars

heavily considering canceling stream

just because it's like so out of touch right?

and it's just like,

Thank you. It's funny, but like there was a TikTok from like CNN, like something legit that was like Oscars heavily considering canceling stream just because it's like so out of touch, right? And it's just like, and that's what people want to talk to do, right? Like cancel this sort of extravagant thing.
Jagging the comments were like, well, wouldn't it be better for them to put it on and donate the proceeds? So it's like, you literally can't win. If you cancel, like you're not helping.
And if you go and donate, you're not helping and you're out of touch. Like it was actually funny to me to see like both sides of the coin.
I'm like, okay, well, people are just impossible. Well, that's the moral of the story.
People are just impossible. People are also complex.
And I think that's really reflected in this week's Dear Toasters. Jackie, there is the craziest one.
I'll save it for last. Really? Maybe I won't be able to stop thinking about it.
It's hard for me, you know, to toggle between DTs. But I do my best.
So DT, Dear To Toasters our weekly advice segment where Jackie and I help three swirlies in need they write to us about things that are going on in their lives whether it's relationship related work related hygiene related sometimes we have a hygiene one today um and so whatever you need help with if you ever are finding yourself in a pickle being like I would love to hear from this fabulous swirlies that I listen to every day you actually can write in to us dear toasters at gmail. our website, thetoastpodcast.com.
Scroll down, there's a little submission box. Both are totally anonymous.
Are you ready? Hello, Swirlies. Okay, you have permission to laugh at this absolutely insane conundrum I found myself in.
My husband is perfect in every way, but over the course of our marriage, there have been a few times that he has forgotten to flush the toilet, which is not the concern I'm, of course, bringing you today, although it is insane. My concern is that the few times this has happened, there has been no toilet paper in the toilet.
I'm starting, it's poop, just to be clear. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
My concern is that the few times this has happened, there's been no toilet paper, and I'm starting to get seriously concerned that he isn't wiping his tushy. Do I ask him or just let him do his thing? It's kind of embarrassing for him, and I'm sure no man wants his wife asking if he wipes his butt, but I also need him to start wiping his butt if that the case what do I do so I think you would totally ask him this doesn't seem like a man who's easily embarrassed or else he would think twice and flush the toilet that's what someone who's like a shy embarrassed person would do I would like to offer like one sort of like saving grace alternative that like maybe just maybe the poops that he has not flushed are poops you took before a shower because sometimes if you're like about to get in the shower like unless you had explosive diarrhea like you don't need to wipe like I would but you don't have to have you ever ever done that I've again personally yeah like yeah okay like I have like if I made like a pargy that like was was sort of oh my god that is so great it's a good it's a good theory and then you're gonna have the shower to literally wash your ass I think it's something that toilet paper gonna do compared to my body it's step one for sure I'm just offering an alternative and I just want to say for the record like I don't do that all the time I would have never crossed my mind however I do in thinking about it think it's something that a man might do so that could be one but I think you just ask him like there's really no secrets like of the like this between men it's not that embarrassing just be like by the way what are you ever heard of toilet paper yeah just find out like this would like seriously curiosity would get the best of me and this is just a great reminder of the thing one time speaking of your friend Sam friend, Sam, who stayed at your house this weekend, who's your new best friend, who you like, don't need me anymore because of her husband.
Over 10 years. For sure.
For sure. Fuck her.
No, I'm kidding. Her husband one time said like truly one of the most profound things to me that I never forgot.
You know what I'm about to say? I do. About wiping your butt.
He was just like, it's really so crazy that like 99% of Americans feel it's sufficient to wipe their asses after like making a duty with toilet paper because like let's say you got a pee it's like it's duty on your skin right let's say you got duty on your finger would you just wipe it away with toilet paper like no you would use soap so I ever since then it's not a fair comparison because like you eat with your fingers and it needs okay fine no no he in his defense he said your arm he Yeah. Also like you, it's out in the world.
So I just want to say like I, ever since then, my house is always fully stocked. I use like adult wipes.
Cottonelle is my favorite brand if anybody cares, but I'll take whatever I can get. And I think more people need to get comfortable.
I know in other countries, bidets are like really popular. Like they're even like public toilets and shit.
That's like extreme for me. But I think a wipe, like like as a country the fact that we don't use more wipes like there should be wipes in every major public restroom.
Moral of the story just ask him he's not someone who can be embarrassed and maybe he needs and if he is going to be embarrassed like maybe he needs to be a little bit embarrassed so he starts flushing the toilet whether or not he wipes is his issue if you hadn't noticed it like in another way you know. Right like when you're having sex like does it smell like poop yeah like then it's probably not an issue but I would just want to know for fun for fun okay this one this one's really crazy okay hi swirlies I'm a working married mom of two a few months ago I got a comment on a tiktok video I posted from a fake account telling me that my husband was cheating on me it turned out to be true and that is with.
My problem is, whoever this person is that messaged me will not stop posting videos of me, screenshots of TikTok messages she sent me. But when I blocked her, she tagged my business, or she'll tag my sister.
I can't get away from her. Who is she? What does she want? Do I ignore it? Sincerely, an annoying toaster who doesn't have time to deal with this bitch.
It might be her husband's mistress who wants you to leave him and wants to ruin your life with you and wants to ruin your life so that you leave him and that he's all hers who else could it be this is like so crazy to happen to just like a civilian you know but not like a celebrity yeah but she also like has a business and it seems like maybe she's a little bit of a creator so if she didn't have those things like i don't know if the person would have messaged her or emailed her or something but either way I think it's someone who is sleeping with your husband obsessed with your husband once during your life yeah or like slept with your husband once and like didn't get the relationship out of it that she wanted so she's trying to like take you down there are like not services but there are people on the internet who like are FBI investigators who can like find out who's behind a finsta um and if it's like really bothering you, because I kind of would want to know too. Or honestly, if your husband is in the doghouse, like that would be a great opportunity.
Be like, I need the names of everybody you slept with so I can cross-reference them with my stalker. And then once you find out the identity of the stalker, she's lost all of her power, right? The power is in the anonymity.
So you can then go to her place of business and give her a little bit. Yeah.
Go to the brothel where she works and give her a little bit of her own medicine. And if you are trying to reconcile with your husband, like he can earn some points.
He has to come clean. He can earn some points by sharing some names and like letting you know who he thinks this might be.
And if you guys are splitting up, well, he could still do you a solid. Yeah.
Like on your way out after burning the house down, if you could just be decent for for 30 seconds that would be great. Yeah.
So I would start with him. Finding out the identity of your stalker is I think the first step in taking your power back.
This third and final dear toasters is one of the craziest ones that maybe we've ever had on our show. Okay.
Not to be dramatic. Hello Jackson Claude.
I desperately need your advice. My husband and I are very close with two other couples.
My husband has known the guys since college. We all have kids the same age.
We take trips together throughout the year, and we're pretty much together every weekend. All's is to say we are very close.
Well, here's my dilemma. I was on my husband's phone looking for an email from my son's school to forward to myself.
While looking, I noticed he had sent multiple naked photos of me to the two guys in our friend group, and the two guys had also sent naked photos of their wives to my husband. Some of the photos were ones I had taken myself and sent to my husband and some he had taken of me that I had never seen before.
Obviously, I feel weird about this and I don't know what to do. Do I tell the other wives, aka my closest friends, do I confront the guys about it? Help.
Love ya. Now, what that guy in France a thousand percent Giselle Picoult or whatever her name is if you don't know the story it is probably one of the most sinister it's disturbing this woman who was married to her husband for like 50 years found out remind me how she found out again oh so the guy he was caught like at the mall taking pictures like up girls skirts and so he was detained by the police the police went through his phone his computer and they found they found all of these photos and videos of his wife so basically what he would do was he was drugging his wife and then at night was letting men come and gangbang and rape his wife and he had pictures and videos of it it.
And this was going on for years and years and years. And she had no idea.
And of course, like she suffered medical issues because of this. And it was just a mystery to her and her doctor.
Her name is Giselle Pellicott. Yeah.
So he was. And the trial just happened.
It was like 70 men were all found guilty of like gang rape. And him like taking pictures of his daughters to selling them daughters-in-law selling so but it was one I didn't even know humans could be that depraved yeah it it was huge news in France and it made its way over here because they all were just found guilty I haven't thought I stopped thinking about that story like it was so upsetting should we go to the doctor with the doctor with all these, like, issues.
Yeah, like, health issues. Health issues, of course, like, vaginal health issues.
She had no idea she was being raped every night. She was suffering memory loss.
Oh, my God. Like, seriously, so crazy.
And honestly, I don't want to be dramatic, and I know everybody says turning gets dramatic. This is giving her husband energy.
Like, taking nude photos of your wife without her knowledge is such a crazy, weird thing to do. Sending them to other people.
Like now we are entering the territory of you're a criminal to me. Yeah, that they have like a little thing going on.
And they have some, yeah. A hundred percent.
You absolutely have to tell the wives. First step, tell the wives.
I would, if you could like just get screenshots of everything, get it to your phone so that you can like show them with their own two eyes. it's so absurd they might not believe you um and then either confront the men I don't know like go to the police go to their mothers like this is so crazy go to their mothers I know like of course like you think about like on its surface let's say like best case they're just like sharing that's grounds for divorce in my opinion let's say even if it's nothing more disturbing sinister or evil than that.
Like, bitch, I'm walking around my house naked. That's the for divorce, in my opinion.
I agree. Let's say even if it's nothing more disturbing, sinister, evil than that.
Like, bitch, I'm walking around my house naked. That's the most, like, sanct, what's the word I'm looking for? Private, like, intimate, and you're taking pictures, I need to your friends.
That's grounds for divorce. I think there's something even more disturbing going on under the surface.
I don't even know what it is. So the fact that, like, the three of them, like, do this, they're doing something worse with these photos.
these photos these are fucking freaks I agree and even if they're not doing something worse that is not your man your man protects you your man loves you your man would fight to the end of the earth to keep your body like your private uh space this man is your enemy he's the devil yeah call the, call the police. Call the police, comma, call their mothers.

Yeah.

Sometimes calling someone's mom is more powerful than calling.

But sometimes, like, you know, people end up being so fucking crazy

because they have crazy parents, too.

Like, sometimes you'll tell someone, your son did this, and they're like, so?

So sometimes it's not a foolproof plan, the mother's thing.

But sometimes calling someone's mom, especially if they have, like, a, you know,

like an immigrant parent, oh, they don't fuck around like this. Like very, it's very cultural too sometimes.
Call their parents. Yeah.
I don't need- Jackie's right. Get all the evidence first before he knows you're onto him.
Because you sat, like this is so far fetched. I don't, I've never heard of this.
You need, like take your phone and film the chat. Yeah, yeah.
Film the chat, film his phone while you're scrolling through the chat. Like I think, because too many screenshots, that leaves a paper trail.
Nope. And video, this can be edited.
No, video can't be edited. Film the fucking chat.
Yeah, good idea. And you send that shit to the wives.
I like that you know, and you have a little bit of headstart because you need, people are gonna think think, they're going to doubt you because it's so crazy. You need unequivocal evidence.
Really disturbing. I'm really sorry.
Like that's such an invasion of privacy. Yeah.
And that's dear toasters. Yeah.
Did I, by the way, did I over exaggerate or like hype up too much? No, but now I feel sick. I know.
That's why I left it for last so we can just wrap it up.

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