E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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Speaker 1 You're crazy, I guess.

Speaker 1 What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to another exciting episode of the Vile Fowles Reality Recap Edition. And we got one year of marriage in books.

Speaker 1 We did it. We did it.
It was hard.

Speaker 1 I didn't think we were going to make it.

Speaker 1 We did say next year. We were like, next year, our captions will be jokey.

Speaker 1 We went heavy. Yeah.
We went heavy and serious and sentimental. Honestly,

Speaker 1 the night before. Honestly, after our second post, we were both kind of disgusted with each other's love.
It was like, ugh, God, get over yourselves.

Speaker 1 But the truth behind it is that Nick was like, do you want to have a competition? And I was like, oh, with what? And he was like, who can? Because we got massages, but we had to go one at a time.

Speaker 1 So he was like, while the other person's in their massage, let's see who can make the best anniversary post. Who can win the anniversary posts?

Speaker 1 Who can find the best photos? Who can write the best caption?

Speaker 1 It was a competition. Who do you think won? First, I want to know who went first.
I went first. Nick went first.
Of course.

Speaker 3 Natalie's was a black and white photo first.

Speaker 1 Natalie definitely was always going to win the photo department because, like, she's better at curating said photos and she is more just generally present and mindful about those things in general and saves them.

Speaker 1 I spent more time on the message, and then I kind of whipped through my photo book and I was like, these are fine.

Speaker 1 I went through my favorites.

Speaker 1 You're like, this is literary. Yeah.
He's an author. You're a poet.
He's a poet. Literally.

Speaker 1 It was grammatically correct and spelled correctly yeah some of it some of it i mean what i read i saw i saw a couple

Speaker 1 i tried i tried

Speaker 1 spelling mistakes there's some spells like kind of i was i was uh sweating in an infrared sauna while writing that and i may or may not have also just been very chilled and very relaxed yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah thinking of what you're putting down who do y'all think won who had the most comments i think that only won the photo department and i think nick won the captain department.

Speaker 1 So we're both tough.

Speaker 1 We were both winners. I said after we left, I said, so who do you think won the Instagram war? And Nick goes, war?

Speaker 1 This is just like a fun, friendly little like challenge. I believe they say all is fair in love and war.
They do. It was a very fun, very enjoyable anniversary weekend, but it was like, it was,

Speaker 1 it was interesting. Because you don't really know Madeline.

Speaker 1 She's like, okay.

Speaker 1 I haven't heard this word yet. You didn't feel a lot of like almost in a way self-induced pressure for your anniversary.
It's like it's your first wedding anniversary.

Speaker 1 It's like we've, you've had it, like, I'm old enough to know that birthdays aren't that big of a deal, you know, to not get that excited about like my birthday. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Uh, because I have my wife's birthday to worry about

Speaker 1 exactly. And I have now Mother's Day and Father.
Well, I don't have Father's Day, but like, you know, and then Mother's Day is like two weeks away. Valentine's Day.

Speaker 1 You got Valentine's Day. You know what I'm saying? But

Speaker 1 your first wedding anniversary, you know, you want to, it's that balance between doing what you enjoy the most, but making sure that you are making this weekend or day feel meaningful, like feel unique, you know?

Speaker 1 And I think there was a mix of us like figuring out what that was in real time.

Speaker 1 I feel like you guys did a lot this weekend. We did.
We went to Stagecoach on Friday. We met with our friends Tyler and Tate and spent time with them at Stagecoach.

Speaker 1 And then it got like really windy and cold, and we saw a Lana, which was great. And we saw George Burge, who's joining us on Wednesday, came out and performed live with Lana.
That was very cool.

Speaker 1 And we saw Zach Bryan again, which like I know, like, you know, bad boyfriend, good musician.

Speaker 3 Did you see Mom Talk?

Speaker 1 At Stagecoach, we did not. They were all over there.
But like, you know, it's one of those things, like Stagecoach, Coachella, same thing, festival. Like, it's fun, but incredibly, like, inconvenient.

Speaker 1 It got incredibly cold. Like, it's a lot of things where you just have to be like, we're having fun.
We're having fun.

Speaker 1 While you're freezing the whole time, being like, we chose to do this on an anniversary.

Speaker 1 You know, know like you know what i'm saying it's which also i find it very confusing that they rearrange the festival every year or

Speaker 1 last year or yeah the last time we went they've rearranged it so when we i just memorized like where everything was and i get there and it's like nope jumbled it up like try to figure out where your station is now stage coach if you're listening we don't like the new layout if you care what we think we're just saying you know the two years ago the layout much better that happened to my trader joe's recently it's really really upsetting.

Speaker 1 It's frustrating, right? You just memorize where everything is. Yeah.
Is it the same as Coachella's setup? It was two years ago. It was different this time.

Speaker 1 So main stage, different place. I don't know.
Don't even want to get into it. It's not really the point.
Then we came back. We woke up Saturday morning in the desert, bright and sunny.
Hot.

Speaker 1 People were laying out by the pool at 8 a.m. Natalie, when Natalie did a lot of planning, Natalie did more planning for our anniversary than I did.
I just want to give my wife credit.

Speaker 1 Wait, have you seen the TikTok trend that it's like, I'm Sierra and I've made the plans. And then it would be, I'm Nick.
Yeah, I'm Natalie. And I, yeah, I'm Nick.
I'm Natalie.

Speaker 1 And I got the rings for our anniversary. I'm Nick.
And I'm Natalie. And I drove everywhere this weekend.

Speaker 1 I'm Nick. I'm Nick and I got high.

Speaker 1 Anyways, yeah, so we left sunny Palm Springs Saturday morning.

Speaker 1 And Natalie did not know this at the time, but when Natalie made our anniversary plans, she, in her mind, had a vision of sweating her ass off in a bikini poolside getting sunk. Ooh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Sounds like a weekend. Doesn't that sound, doesn't that scream anniversary? It screams honeymoon.
It screams anniversary. It screams like vacation.

Speaker 1 It's a really good vacation. I felt that.

Speaker 1 But then we woke up and had to leave the desert based on the plans that

Speaker 1 my wife and our

Speaker 1 wife and our wife

Speaker 1 planned for us. Turns out the weather in LA, even though two and a half hours away from from palm spring different oh my god

Speaker 1 freezing and pouring rain so natalie is in her mind thinking this is not what i this is not what i planned this is not what i planned this is not what i planned this is not what i planned and then recalibrate my wife's mood as we're driving home we're driving in the rain we're like oh like how crazy would it be if like the place we're staying at was like sold out of massages for the weekend like that would be crazy and then we're like hmm maybe we should call and book one.

Speaker 1 So Nick calls and they're like, sold out. Sorry.
We have some like Monday afternoon. We're like, oh, not going to work.
And honestly, our reason for going is just to get rubbed on. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But we love a massage.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 So I would say you were happy. A professional one.
Yes. Professionally rub one on.
No, like Jesse Solomon. No, Jesse Solomon.
37 minutes. No, no, no.
Like his porn search or whatever it was.

Speaker 1 It was a good massage.

Speaker 1 Oh, no tan lines.

Speaker 1 No, that was Carl. And I got to say, I just want to stand up for Carl here.
I just like, look. He's honest.
He's honest. Well, it's also niche, but what?

Speaker 1 No, I'm just saying, why is Jesse and Kyle making fun of Carl's tan line when Jesse's like, well, I like massage porn?

Speaker 1 I feel like massage porn is a little bit weirder than like a girl with some tan line. Yeah.
Like,

Speaker 1 what fantasy, Jesse, are you trying to like elicit or invoke? Did you ask for a foot massage and that's how the toe ended up in her mouth? Like, you freak. Yeah, I don't know.
Anyways, so

Speaker 1 they're throwing out of of massages. So I'm in a bad mood because it's pouring rain and there's no massages for the weekend.
So I'm like, oh my god, like the whole weekend is just like ruined.

Speaker 1 It's ruined.

Speaker 1 But then I stepped in and I found another hotel in Malibu because that's where we were staying at a different hotel in Malibu. And I'm like, hey, do you guys have some massages available?

Speaker 1 And they're like, yes, we do. Back-to-back.
Oh, lovely. Can't do couples, but we can do back-to-back.
I was like, right, we just want to be rubbed on. It's fine.

Speaker 1 Which gave us room for our Instagram war. Absolutely.
Competition.

Speaker 1 Y'all are driving. Then the place we were staying called us back and said, hey, something this opened up.
Couples massage is available for you. And it is an hour and a half after our singles massage.

Speaker 1 And I was like, book them all. Let's just do them all.
Stop it. Are you really?

Speaker 1 Oh, I love that. I'm trying to get rubbed on all day.
I'm jealous. So we woke up.
Natalie got a massage while I poured my heart out on Instagram. Yes.

Speaker 1 And had very few grammatical errors, which I'm very proud of.

Speaker 1 I am.

Speaker 1 You should be. Natalie went and while I got massaged.
And then we scurried over to the place where we were staying and got a couple's massage.

Speaker 1 It was really great. And then, but we were supposed to stay last night at this place.
And then we ended our staycation because we wanted to see our daughter. And it felt like we were wasting money.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You are like 45 minutes too long.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you would have had to wake up super early this morning.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well, it just like, that's what I meant when I started talking about the weekend where it was just like, again, like, there's that balance between like, it's our first wedding anniversary.

Speaker 1 We wanted to make it feel special and unique.

Speaker 1 We didn't like, obviously we're very busy we didn't have time to like you know do some crazy trip we did a staycation which we don't really do a lot of and we're also people who just really love being home you know and being comfortable so it's like this weird thing we went to a very beautiful place it was wonderful uh it was great uh but it's like it wasn't our house and our house is 45 minutes away so is our daughter and it's like we i think it's you guys having a baby too that it's just kind of like how do you fully relax when you're like i could be home and doing this yeah it was like i'm watching the baby monitor as like my mom's trying to put her to sleep and i she's like kind of fighting it and crying.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, should we just go? Let's just go home, right? We should just put her to bed. We'll be home in 45 minutes.
I can rock her. I'll put her to bed.
Everything's fine.

Speaker 1 And so, yeah, we ended our staycation early. And honestly, we had a great time last night

Speaker 1 being at home with our family. I have the craziest story to tell y'all, though.
Please. The other day, I leave the studio.
Should we talk about our gifts first, though? Oh, sure.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's another thing. No, you can't do that.
Yeah, it's like the studio. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
It was my idea. You did it.

Speaker 3 The gifts or they're leaving the the studio?

Speaker 1 Gifts. So, all right.
So, our

Speaker 1 anniversary. Our anniversary is weeks away.
And then I'm like, fuck, another fucking thing. I have to get a fucking gift for it.
It's what's going on in my head.

Speaker 1 You got to make this part of your love language now. Truly, he's got to.
It ain't changing. It's got to.
So my sneaky ass was like, I honestly think this is a really good idea.

Speaker 1 Because, like, I don't like, what? I'm supposed to buy you a fucking gift.

Speaker 1 like and then you buy me a gift on the anniversary and so what we get like stuff but it's your one-year anniversary i know because i said let's do let's do gift let's do a gift together let's do a gift that we can share yeah it's like he's being sneaky like i knew what he was doing the whole time i got no idea we got matching rings so he was like what should we do should we like

Speaker 1 like a trip and i was like well i already booked our staycation um on my credit card

Speaker 1 so i feel like i've already given a gift to us um and he was like yeah no but like i paid for that too and i was like whoa not really because it was on my personal credit card and so, then he tried to take credit for that, which I wasn't allowing him to.

Speaker 1 And so, he's like, What if we did, like,

Speaker 1 I don't know? I'm like, Is there like a purse you want?

Speaker 1 Is there a place you want to see me in?

Speaker 1 Are you dying to see me in like a new product? Do you want wire yourself from head to toe?

Speaker 1 So, then finally, I'm like, What if we found like a matching piece of jewelry? I know, it was my idea, whatever. And so, it's like we could do like bracelets, a necklace, or ring.

Speaker 1 So, I reach out to my friend at Real Fine Studio. She owns this really cute, like boutique fine jewelry.
I got my like signet ring for River, the little birthstone for River from her.

Speaker 1 I was like, do you have anything? She sent me these rings.

Speaker 1 They have two diamonds on them, which immediately, as we all know, like things in twos have become very significant and special to us because of the miscarriages. So I was like, oh, that's so sweet.

Speaker 1 Like it's kind of like. both of our babies that we lost within the year, the first year of us being married.
So I was like, let's engrave April 27th, 2024 on the inside of the band.

Speaker 1 She's like, Do you want to put Rivers' birthstone in there? I'm like, No, she happened before the marriage. We're going to keep this strictly first year of marriage.

Speaker 1 Love her, but like, no, she's a bastard.

Speaker 1 No, yeah.

Speaker 1 Which someone did comment on our wedding video and be like, wearing a full-length veil after fully birthing a child seems ironic. I'm like, all right, slut shamer.

Speaker 1 Literally, that's outrageous.

Speaker 1 Okay, so you hate fashion.

Speaker 1 Sorry. Sorry.
But anyway, so we got these rings and they are, they're very special and they're very beautiful. And now we're matching.
Yeah. So beautiful.

Speaker 1 So my crazy story.

Speaker 1 I'm leaving the studio and we're about to head off for this weekend of events. So I was like, I need to go to the grocery store and get like my mom and River fully stocked for the weekend.

Speaker 1 So I go to Whole Foods. pushing the cart around in the produce.

Speaker 1 I'm figuring out what like planning all of River's meals in my heads and then in my heads my multiple heads and then I go i go to the meats and i'm getting her some some meat and this man looks at me and he goes excuse me were you just over there and i was like what that's like probably yeah he's like were you just over there with all the fruit and i was like oh yeah what did you do i was and he was like i just sorry i just felt like uh every time i looked up i only saw you oh and i was like oh

Speaker 1 and he was like sorry if that's weird and i was like no yeah it's crazy

Speaker 1 I'm not the only one in this. Can I get a half a pound of beef?

Speaker 1 And so then I'm like, anyway, so I take my meat, I go down the baby aisle, I get some diapers, I get some snacks for river, and then I go down the next aisle. I'm literally, I'm going down each aisle.

Speaker 1 Right. And I go down the beans or whatever it is, and he's coming down.
And so I'm like, ha ha, hey, you know, like, what a coincidence, see each other again. How funny.
And I keep it moving.

Speaker 1 And he's like, as he's walking past me, he goes, next time I'm going to ask for your name. I was like, oh, jesus christ

Speaker 1 so then i go down the next aisle he follows me down that aisle and he's like what a coincidence like this is truly fate oh no

Speaker 1 what does this guy look like is that the same is a short european like french man so accent i would say an accent yes i cannot do a french so i won't be trying but he's like late 30s early 40s probably irrelevant regardless irrelevant but yes uh short little french man and so

Speaker 1 he's like what a coincidence this is such fate and i was like oh, or you just like watched me go down this aisle and you followed me down here, but sure.

Speaker 1 And he goes, what is your name? I said, Natalie. And then he goes to write in his calendar with an H.
I said, no, not with an H.

Speaker 1 The American way.

Speaker 1 He goes, and number?

Speaker 1 Like he was. Like he's taking a reservation.
Literally, like he's booking me.

Speaker 1 And I go, oh, no, I'm married and I have children.

Speaker 1 He goes, what?

Speaker 1 You look way too young. Sorry, you just look too young.
And I was like, with the diaphragm, but you are. No.
And so we keep going and he goes, next time, Natalie, with no H.

Speaker 1 And I was like, there won't be one.

Speaker 1 I'm going to do a different Whole Foods. For sure.
Thanks. So then I'm like, I finished.
I'm like, wonder this fucking freak. So then I finished going around.

Speaker 1 There's one aisle open and he's in the fucking checkout. And I'm like, nope.

Speaker 1 I'm taking another laugh.

Speaker 1 And it was just like the way that this man was trying to sell this as like what a coincidence we're just it's just so meanwhile he's stalking you in the grocery store like you're literally watching what aye go down and then following me and being like oh

Speaker 1 i like to think he's sitting at one end of the hallway going one two three okay and like runs down to the other end

Speaker 1 is there a world though where like i mean let's okay let's say you set the stage you're a single person and the there's a guy who tries this clearly a move there's no world in which you're charmed by it if you

Speaker 1 would take it i feel like, especially like grocery stores, I've had that happen in like a Target and you're just kind of like, I'm here running errands. You know what I think his flaw is? What?

Speaker 1 He was too confident at the point in which she asked for the number.

Speaker 1 Because like, all right, let's, let's, you know how everyone's always saying, like, I just want to meet someone in the grocery store.

Speaker 1 You know, like, what if this was this, like, a guy who just, like, wasn't paying attention to her ring finger or what's in her cart, whatever. And he was just like, thought she was cute.

Speaker 1 And maybe he's just trying to make a move. But like, her version is like, he's fucking stalking.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying, what if he just saw a person person and then was thinking, I got to get, I got to get the guts. I got to, I build up, I got to build up the courage to finally make the move.

Speaker 1 So like by the time he did that, he was like, a number?

Speaker 1 Like he's done it a million times as opposed to like awkwardly being like, all right, the other five times I chickened out, but now I'm going to finally like just be like, hi, and introduce myself.

Speaker 1 He lacked a little bit of awkwardness and nervousness, I feel like, in his game. It was less meet, cute, more

Speaker 1 like I've done this 30 times. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I want to sign you up for our subscription service. Yeah.
I'm going to ask for your email next. Yeah.
It was very interesting.

Speaker 1 Do you want to become your own boss? Number? Yeah. Yeah.
Very culty.

Speaker 1 I'm just not into that. No.
I'm like, hit on me in a place where, like, not now, but it when I were single, I'm like, hit on me in a place where it would be expected.

Speaker 1 Most likely I ran here with no makeup on. I'm just trying to get some errands done.
I'm not looking for a date at 12.30 p.m. in the afternoon.

Speaker 1 Speaking of date, recently, or not too recently, a few months ago, Travis Kelsey, Taylor Swift, Ryan Reynolds, and Blake Lively went out to dinner

Speaker 1 and they seemed like friends. And this morning, I know we haven't really covered the story too much lately because

Speaker 1 it's still toxic and whatever. Our position, ours, our position.
But Travis Kelty unfollowed Ryan Reynolds, according to TMZ. Which is like

Speaker 1 a statement. It's

Speaker 1 listen, it doesn't change. You know, everyone's going to be like, oh my God, like, you know, maybe Travis Kelsey feels a certain way towards Ryan.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 Maybe like, it doesn't seem like an accident.

Speaker 1 Travis follows like 1,300 people.

Speaker 1 My big thing is like at this point, despite them doing a double date not too long ago, despite the connection and friendship between Taylor Swift and Blake Lively,

Speaker 1 and at this point, the only thing that has been coming out is like, you know, friends of or speculation, more or less rumors.

Speaker 1 But, like, you know, Travis has his own massive show and podcast with his brother. And he's obviously a very public figure, and he's like going out in the limelight.
Like, why at this point?

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 now he's involving himself in a story that you would think he's gone.

Speaker 1 everything about that's coming out of like Taylor Swift camp has suggested that, like, you know, who knows what's true or not, but like, she didn't appreciate being brought into this like messy conflict between Justin and Blake.

Speaker 1 And she's like, no one has mentioned Travis Kelsey. No one's mentioned Travis Kelsey.
I was not thinking about him in regards to

Speaker 1 whatsoever. I thought he was even dating Taylor during this whole thing.
Well, maybe that's the whole thing. Maybe he wants friends.

Speaker 1 Maybe. I don't know.
But doesn't it seem weird? Like, regardless of why he did it, it or. He could have muted her.
Like,

Speaker 1 you know, he's dating the most

Speaker 1 famous, like, has been through this world, knows every trick of the trade, knows what's going to get press, what's not going to get press.

Speaker 1 Like, him unfollowing is going, like, he could have just been like, you know what? I don't want to see his stuff anymore. Like, mute.
But no, he wants to be part of the story, which I find crazy.

Speaker 1 It's, it's a, it's up. It's petty.

Speaker 3 So the, well, the headline is that he unfollowed Ryan Reynolds specifically. So Ryan Reynolds still follows Travis Kelsey.
Travis Kelsey has like 1,600 people that he's following.

Speaker 3 So Blake Lively doesn't follow Travis Kelsey, but that's like a separate.

Speaker 1 But she may have never. She may have never.

Speaker 3 Yeah. That was never part of the headline.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But it's just like.

Speaker 1 He's being like roped into it now because you chose to like publicly unfollow him. For example, obviously, you guys know I've been very critical of James Kennedy since his arrest with Allie, right?

Speaker 1 Like, and then when that came out, we came on the show, and I had very, I had very strong opinions about James and his character and things like that.

Speaker 1 The last thing I thought about in that moment was like oh I need to unfollow James Kennedy and so I followed him for I think a bit of time people did start to notice and then I was like yeah I shouldn't follow this guy like I don't really want to follow him but it just like wasn't top of mind you know what I'm saying it was more like oh yeah I guess so but like at this point like if it is like maybe Travis feels a certain way about riot about who knows I'm just saying like it is like no one asked for it no one was paying attention to it and that was a choice he made it just seems like almost a really weird, petty move to insert yourself in a story that you see everything about their actions has been, we don't want to be involved.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Honestly, I don't know what's happening going on, but like, and again, you know, it's just me.

Speaker 1 Like when I, I'm in the position of my life right now where I can afford to be my friends' friends when they really need a friend.

Speaker 1 That's kind of how I look at it, you know, especially when people are like, you know, when I feel like I can be the only one to have their back. Like, I can take the shrapnel.

Speaker 1 I can take the criticism, you know, like I'm good.

Speaker 1 And it seems like everything that's coming from Taylor's camp is like, this is too, I don't, I don't really want to, this is, I don't really want to part,

Speaker 1 I'm just too busy being, you know, heiress to her. Like, this is messy and I don't want this.
And I guess that's a choice. I mean, again, and maybe she has a certain strong opinion.

Speaker 1 It's just a weird move. I don't know.
It's just why, why Travis wants to be a part of the story by doing something so trivial as to unfollow Instagram is a choice. That is a choice.
It's a choice.

Speaker 1 It also was a choice for you to say that my forehead was big. And our

Speaker 1 Armani.

Speaker 3 We listen and we don't judge.

Speaker 1 Well, you have an exceptionally small forehead, which is ironic since you have this fear of your forehead. And I just had no real good digs that I could come up with.

Speaker 1 So I just like, I went with the low-hanging fruit.

Speaker 1 Which is your obnoxiously large forehead. Nick was scrambling.

Speaker 1 We were reading him to filth, and he was just like, well, your forehead's big.

Speaker 1 Like, I didn't think we were talking about real things that I annoyed you about. Like, he's like, that haircut was a good haircut.

Speaker 1 Literally. You loved it.
Would you rather a three-head? No, honestly, I am.

Speaker 1 I've gotten to a point now where, like, I think seeing River have my chin has made me love my chin, you know, because it's like, and I've, I've hated my chin my whole life.

Speaker 1 And it's crazy because I got my chin from my mother. And I know my mother used to always be like, sorry, honey, like, that was me, you know? And so I've, I was bullied for it for a lot of the years.

Speaker 1 And so, like, finally, I got to a point where I look at my daughter and I see my chin and I'm like, no, wait, it looks so cute on her. Like, I love it.
I gave her that chin.

Speaker 1 And I think that same thing about my forehead now. You've always had a great forehead.
But people were in the comments being like, oh, they're definitely fucking getting divorced. Wow.

Speaker 1 Like, Nick talks about the best.

Speaker 1 No, it's like the real fans always show up first. Yeah.
You're right or dies. They're like, oh, my God, we love you.
Couple girls. Oh, yeah.
I love how you guys make fun of each other. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 So silly, so funny. So silly, so funny.
And then like the, then the haters kind of show up. Be like, oh, what's this? You guys are fighting?

Speaker 1 Oh, trouble in paradise.

Speaker 1 Oh, all right. Now, no, that felt personal.
No, there was truth. Oh, no, they hate each other.
Yeah, there was truth behind that pain. Oh.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, thank God for you somewhere, someone in the middle of nowhere for clarifying that I am not happy here, I guess. And I'm not happy in my marriage.

Speaker 1 I forgot that you sitting in your small town of Roanoke.

Speaker 1 That's right. Now what's going on

Speaker 1 at our home?

Speaker 1 Bad things happened in Roanoke. Yeah.
Sorry. I've never been.

Speaker 1 I hear it's lovely. American Wars.
Well, I did take Justin to the MRNI party a couple weeks ago. I did.
It was cute. Did you feel like an employee or did you feel like my friend?

Speaker 3 You did address me as a friend, which is nice, but then I also held your bag for the photo shoot.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I blame both parts.

Speaker 1 The photographer's like, can you hold that?

Speaker 3 Or can you scoot out of the way?

Speaker 1 I was like, yeah.

Speaker 1 No, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 Out of the shot.

Speaker 1 But I enjoyed it. I appreciated it.
How was the party? It was a lot of fun. Leslie Bibb was there.
Who else was, who else, who was, who played her first?

Speaker 3 Brenda Song, Alien A.J.

Speaker 1 Star Studied Cat. Did you talk to anybody, Justin? I did.
Yeah. Bailey Madison was there.
Love her. Yeah.
Bailey Madison.

Speaker 3 And the whole time she started, she was like, Cece, Cece, yeah, Cece talks about you. And I was like, who is Cece?

Speaker 1 And then eventually I was like, oh, Sierra. Like, should we be calling you Cece?

Speaker 1 No, that's just like my nickname for it's always been my nickname since I was a kid, but like Caitlin, her sister, her daughters call me Cece since they were little.

Speaker 1 And so all the little kids can't say Sierra, obviously. So we start off with Cece and then it just sticks.
Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 3 It was a good event, though. It was one of those events where they like pass around like the food you can eat, but it's literally the size of a penny.

Speaker 1 Hors d'oeuvres.

Speaker 3 Yeah, but it's like smaller than an hors d'oeuvre.

Speaker 1 It's very passive. All the serving staff are hot models.
Of course. Of course.
Like, do you want struggling actors? Do you want a goat cheese with balsamic on it? You're like, fuck yeah, I do. Sure.

Speaker 1 I didn't, but now the way that you said that,

Speaker 1 let me try it. Well, speaking of, speaking of eating, Gwyneth Paltrow is eating carbs and cheese again.
Woo!

Speaker 1 Welcome back, Gwen. I don't know.
I'm kind of upset about it. I'm like, is this giving an end to the world? It's kind of, it's, it's apocalyptic time.

Speaker 1 If Gwyneth Paltrow is at the point in her life where she needs to eat carbs, what hope is there for any of you? I just think she hasn't had like a stomachache in a while.

Speaker 1 And she was like, I need a little dare.

Speaker 1 She's like, I've heard all about these hot girls with their hot tummy issues, and I kind of want to be be part of them can i give a little update on my 2025 diet oh you're water fast well it started with water fast but i i'm happy to report that i've been pretty good about like almost no sugar and i haven't i haven't worked out that much in the past six weeks and i've never been

Speaker 1 more smoked oh i'm just saying like snatched i've had a couple cheat days i tried my mom's homemade chocolate cookies i also uh i crossed some tic-tac chewies uh that are delicious and i figured were we're more than worth it but other than a couple just moments, like I've completely cut out like just like, you know, like Arnold Palmer's, I would go to like a restaurant and crush four Arnold Palmers.

Speaker 1 You know how much sugar that is in a lemonade? No. A lot.
A lot. I haven't had a single chocolate croissant in 2025.
No donuts, no desserts, no popsicles. Popsicles.

Speaker 1 You know, the problem was I ended 2024 eating like I imagined I could eat when I was 12, when I became an adult.

Speaker 1 You know, like the way I imagined I would, oh, like when I can buy my own goddamn food, I'm gonna, you know what I'm saying? That's how I was, that's how I wrapped up 2024.

Speaker 1 I would eat dinner and then I'd crush a box of cocoa pebbles and I'd top it off with a popsicle.

Speaker 1 That was nuts. And when it comes to bread, I'm mostly sourdough.
Nice. That's good for you.
I love sourdough. I'm healthy.
Yes. And I'm, again,

Speaker 1 I haven't run. I haven't worked out.
And I've never been leaner and less puffy. I'm just saying, if you know.
One Gwyneth Dale. You don't need Gwyneth.

Speaker 1 Just follow this guy. Nick is the new Gwyneth Pouch.

Speaker 1 You can even eat breads.

Speaker 1 All I have changed is I have cut out the Arnold Palmer's and desserts from my diet. What about coffee? Lots of fruit.
I'm back on coffee big time.

Speaker 1 Big time.

Speaker 1 A lot of fruits at night. A lot of grapes have become my new candy.
Oh, those are good. Do you put it in the freezer? That was good.
Frozen grapes. Oh, frozen grapes.
Frozen. That's so good.

Speaker 1 Frozen mango. A little bit of tahin.

Speaker 3 I don't need mango. I will say grapes have a lot of sugar in it, though, so you have to be careful.

Speaker 1 It's natural. It's natural.
Well, some of them are.

Speaker 3 If you're getting the cotton candy grapes, not those GMs.

Speaker 1 I'm not buying fruit. Well, cotton candy grapes are technically fruit.

Speaker 1 The fruit they sell on the south. They're not like injecting cotton candy.
I'm just saying all.

Speaker 4 What did you think that was?

Speaker 1 All I'm saying is I'm not eating simple sugars. I'm proud of you.
Thank you, Santa. Whatever.

Speaker 1 So I'm very proud of you.

Speaker 1 We have a great episode lined up for you. Later this episode, Georgia Haserati returns the vile foul.

Speaker 1 She's in the new hit Netflix show, Battle Camp, which is now streaming and crushing it on Netflix if you want to join. But she returns.
Spoiler alert. Spoiler alert.
Lots of fun talking to Georgia.

Speaker 1 She's always fun and a little messy. It's always really enjoyable.
And coming up shortly, Kelsey Anderson is coming solo. We didn't invite Joey.

Speaker 1 No, I did. I was like, you know what, Kelsey, she's out there.

Speaker 1 She's making moves. She's potentially getting in fights at Coachella.
We don't know. So we said, Kelsey, come.
We don't want Joey. Well, Kelsey Anderson is joining us shortly.

Speaker 1 But before she does, let's talk a little summer house. This is a fun episode.
It was a lot of fun. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Schwartz. Schwartz was, Schwartz was there.
Schwartz came. Schwartz is like the guy who's like,

Speaker 1 he's trying to find his Marvel show he wants to be on. You know, it's just like, which, which superhero iteration does he want to be a part of?

Speaker 1 And he's like, right now, just kind of scouring the Bravo universe. He's part of the multi-story.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Which Spider-Man is? Which Spider-Man would Schwartz be? Is he Tom Holland? Is he Andrew Garfield? Is he Toby McGuire? I don't know.

Speaker 1 But I kind of wanted to see him make a quick cameo on the middle of the middle. I think he's Toby McGuire.

Speaker 1 Yeah. He's Toby McGuire because you'll just never forget him exactly yeah and he's so cute

Speaker 1 and you and he always looks a version of 12. yeah sometimes a baby girl can be an adult man and he's one of those faces that you see and you're just like

Speaker 1 you know you just like immediately smile you're like ah schwartzy he's always smiling even when he does like really bad things you're all like

Speaker 1 yeah you just want to like awk not a great episode for jesse fantastic episode for lexi

Speaker 1 does jesse still get his cancer pass after this episode? I know.

Speaker 1 Dropped the cancer pass. Jesse, look what you've done.

Speaker 1 I can't control what my idiot friends say. It's crazy.
Goodness.

Speaker 1 So you just want me to be a robot? Yeah. Every line in the book.

Speaker 1 I was going to ask you to be my girlfriend at the end of the day. No, I don't.

Speaker 1 But now, after this. No, I mean, I know we met each other's parents, but.
It was like one after the other. It was the fuckboy playbook of excuses.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Like we were all just getting PTSD being like, oh, fired shots, fired. Lexi was good, though.
She held her ground. She was incredible.
She said, robot. No, I never said that.
A star is born.

Speaker 1 She was incredible.

Speaker 1 I think anyone watching, men, ladies, whatever, whatever, whoever you are, whoever you are dating, if you want to know how to handle yourself in conflict, especially in early stages of a situationship of what this is, just look at Lexi.

Speaker 1 Number one, most important trait, calm. She remained incredibly calm when being faced with a different version of her reality, which would trigger most of us.

Speaker 1 She remained incredibly calm.

Speaker 1 And then she articulated herself so fantastically in a way where she was like, Yeah, I mean, like, I guess that's a version, but here's like a different version of that story, which made incredible sense.

Speaker 1 Absolutely. It was wild.
Because, you know,

Speaker 1 it's a classic case where you hear Jesse's version and you're like, oh my God, yeah, that is crazy.

Speaker 1 Like, early on, you want to date someone, but man, like two weeks in, you're just like, I'm demanded.

Speaker 1 They don't follow any women on instagram that seems a little hasty and then you hear lexi's version she's like well i don't know this maybe just not follow 15 new women since we've been like hanging out which is like no that's a totally different story yeah like uh and when she was when he was like i can't control what my friends say or something like that and he was like she was like but your actions are making your friends feel icky that was an absolute mic draw yeah mic draw oh my god when she hit him with the yeah like wait it's it's not your friends acting a certain way.

Speaker 1 You're doing things. They feel a way about it and they're communicating it with me and it makes him feel icky, which is like nothing any man wants to hear from a lady.

Speaker 1 And then for him to immediately throw all of his friends under the bus. Well, I guess I just like can't trust my friends.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Jesse.

Speaker 1 Be fucking for real. At least he has West.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 West is in there and is like. But even Wes was like.

Speaker 1 But West was sitting with on the bed with the two of them kind of like feeding into it too he was like dude we were in the car and he called he called her and then was like all right i'll call you in a bit it's like we're gonna be there in an hour yeah that's why i said i think he was at first he also jesse

Speaker 1 and then that's what he said yeah he literally went yeah no jesse actually was on the phone and is actually needy and i'm like he's the one creating all of this chaos because he's not ready to commit but he needs to make it so if he bails at any time everybody knows she was crazy he very is interested and he's the he's he's very he's very interested in the having a girlfriend yeah yeah he's like like the perks of a girlfriend.

Speaker 1 He's like, this is nice. She's pretty.
I get to hang out with her. I get the emotional support constantly every day.

Speaker 1 I get to call this person whenever I'm bothered. We also get to have some sex.
It's a lot of fun. And then all of a sudden she was like, hey, listen, great.

Speaker 1 Here's some requests I need for as a boyfriend. He's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 1 Whoa.

Speaker 1 Can't do it. Whoa.
I did not know that this went both. I can't talk to women.
This is crazy. What do you want me to do with my days?

Speaker 1 And I can't flirt with my very hot friend sierra all the time i just have to treat her like a human being are you kidding me the way his brain couldn't process sierra being like fine you want to throw me under the bus and act like i'm doing something to you this is what it's like to not have me around and then he's immediately like sierra's acting weird sierra's being like really weird towards me i don't know what's going on i do think she is acting weird i don't think she's i think she's playing into it too i'm just saying oh sure i think my biggest issue with jesse is like he seems like a great guy like he seemed like good person to be friends with but however i have an issue where like where a lot of men have this relationship with women that they are quote unquote friends with but they are never friends with them they see them as a potent as potential are we talking about jesse or are we talking about uh jesse and sierra sierra jesse and sierra and it's like you cannot actually be friends with a woman when your only interest in them is like whether they may not whether they may want to have sex with you you know what the test is this is real from a from a perspective of a man if sierra were to get naked in front of Jesse, Jesse would not look away.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You're not friends.
You know what I'm saying? I would say, crazy going.

Speaker 1 Jesse wouldn't be like, oh my God, I'm so sorry.

Speaker 1 My women friends that are like straight and I'm straight and we hang out.

Speaker 1 There could be another universe or version where like maybe we dated.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, hey, we're just friends. If I walked into a room.
And like they are a close-up off, I'd be like, oh my God, I'm so sorry. Like, oh, my God.
Yeah. Jesse would not.
Jesse would go.

Speaker 1 Whoa. He would linger.
Yeah. Exactly.
He'd go, whoa, and he would try to linger and keep talking, trying not to make it a word, but not, yeah. He'd be like, oh my God, great tits.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Can you turn around really quick? It's just, it pisses me off because then it's like, he's going to be like, no, she's just my friend. I'm like, no, you don't see her as a person.

Speaker 1 You see her as a potential like interest.

Speaker 1 And that is all she is to you. It's like, it just, it really infuriates me.
Sorry to go back to the tan line porn, but I honestly thought that that was very wholesome of Carl. I did.

Speaker 1 you love carl i do no i i i just i think he's made a lot of growth and i think that just like that's such a wholesome thing versus like incest or like yeah he wasn't like oh i want to see like fucking spook or it was definitely no less or more weird than massage porn from jesse or whatever the fuck west said west they never get bounced

Speaker 1 off

Speaker 1 high quality he's like i can't even go back to to west is like let me give all my subcategories but you know what he's honest yeah that was but i i agree though with you though i don't don't think in West.

Speaker 1 Jesse and West are like, yeah, they're not, they're the fuckboy who someday is going to be a husband.

Speaker 1 We watched Lady in the Tramp last night with a daughter. Beautiful.
It is. It also holds up, by the way.
What a transition.

Speaker 1 Live action or animated? Animated. The live action.
Thank God. No, thank you.
Thank God.

Speaker 1 Animated on. We only show her movies from the 1920s.

Speaker 1 Hey, retro. Didn't it come out in like 1930 or something? No.
55.

Speaker 1 It's really old. All I knew is that it was really 1955.
Yeah. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 It's historically accurate. No, Lady and the Tramp.
There's a whole movie, like the tramp,

Speaker 1 the male dog is based, they're slut-shaming the male dog. And the whole version of it is just like, he's a dog, and he's just going to be a dog until like someone settles him down.

Speaker 1 And honestly, like, that's West and Jesse, which is like,

Speaker 1 as much as we're talking shit on them, as much as like West got his, like, basically, he got crucified last season. Crucified.
Jesse, Wes did a little bit. He said the dramatics.
No, I love it.

Speaker 1 I'm here for this. They didn't stop him from them doing them.
You know what I'm saying? Because they can get away with it.

Speaker 1 Because like we roll our eyes and criticize like shitty behaviors from men, but at the end of the day, like

Speaker 1 there always will be another lady who's going to fall for their bullshit. And until that stops happening, they'll just gonna, they're just gonna do them.
Well, the internet. So it's our fault.
Yes.

Speaker 1 The internet. It's just like they're not gonna stop.

Speaker 1 The internet used a photo of the two of them on the bed with their legs crossed, and they said, this is who greets you in the situation shipgates of hell. And it was Jesse West.

Speaker 1 Very, very. Sierra, what do you think

Speaker 3 of hitting on Sierra?

Speaker 1 That was brutal. Again, yeah, it hurts, but it was just, he's just so wholesome and it was like innocent.
And he was just like, maybe I'll shoot my shot.

Speaker 1 He was like, let me have a sit-down conversation and just tell her how I feel and see what happens. Carl is the type of man that I think Sierra should go for, that she never will.

Speaker 1 Yeah, some people referred to him as like, I can't remember if it was in the show or like if it was outside, but they referred to him as the Mr. Rogers of Summerhouse.

Speaker 1 And I was just like, it it's so true. But also like Sierra would be an idiot to go for Carl because like Lindsay would literally

Speaker 1 forget about Lindsay and whatever and that making that probably was just like a show romance, but like Carl is the type of guy that I think Sierra is not going for.

Speaker 1 She should. That she should be going for.
Yeah. That like is willing to just be, you know, that's not the colour.

Speaker 1 Well, the difference between Carl and Jesse is Carl sees Sierra as a person and is attracted to that person, and Jesse thinks she's hot and is purely going off of well and Carl's willing to lead with hey I'm I'm into you

Speaker 1 like I have a crush where Jesse wants to be like damn that leg's turning me on right now yeah or like you know just be like oh that was kind of stupid

Speaker 1 no Jesse's gonna like make fun of Sierra for a while before he gives her any like attention and she's gonna eat that up Sierra did react to Carl saying, I love Carl, but I was not expecting that, but I get it.

Speaker 3 No, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 3 And then she said, she referred to the friendship as a special relationship and revealed, we did have a lot of quality time this summer, and it was so great to get to know him in a different light.

Speaker 1 So she's friend-zoning him, and

Speaker 1 they did have like a little bit of chemistry her first season, I think it was season six, where it was just like, we don't know where she's gonna go, but then she was talking to Luke, so it was wasted.

Speaker 1 And then Carl's brother passed and everything, but they had a very, very, very sweet relationship, even from the start of meeting.

Speaker 3 So I think it's like friendship.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Well, I'm very invested in the rest of Lexi and Jesse's relationship, especially after Washi Lexi just absolutely dominate. I mean, it was really great.

Speaker 1 and if i'm not invited to the next snooze fest i'm gonna come back on rampage summer house can you send us the party full link

Speaker 1 can i put myself on a list please thank you i'm also curious about amanda's storyline the rest of the season because the reunion seating chart was released and she's first chair so i'm like what happens with amanda did you do to deserve that yeah and maybe not maybe she she deserves it anyways but i'm the last time she was first chair i don't think she ever was first chair and if so it would have been probably like the season that kyle cheated or something like season two or three but like she doesn't really have a lot besides like launching.

Speaker 1 She's just kind of like, just like the fun friend that's there and like Kyle's partner. But like clearly something has to happen because it's Paige and Amanda flanking him.

Speaker 1 But she also responded to it saying like she was also shocked by the seating chart. So like we're all just like, hmm, what?

Speaker 1 I'm not saying this with judgment, more an amazement, because again, as a, I'm a person who got married later in life, like I've, I've certainly had my fun in my 30s, you know, yada, yada.

Speaker 1 But the level of partying these men do, when they were showing that scene, like, this is how boys hang out at night, like when they come home to the bars and it's like three in the morning and they're like microwaving like chicken nuggets and fries all at the same time.

Speaker 1 Like, again, I've had my fun. I've been selfish.
Me and my wife even went to stagecoach this weekend. You know what I'm saying? We're not above like still having fun.

Speaker 1 But like we still, we were in bed by 11.30 on Friday, you know, like Tyler in Tate, Texas, like, hey, you still at stagecoach? I'm like, in bad, you know,

Speaker 1 I don't remember the last time. I think I was like 26, 27, when like I would go out to the bars with my friends and come back and play video games and eat food late night.

Speaker 1 And the fact that like they're still doing it is just

Speaker 1 impressive all at the same time, but crazy. We were at Stagecoach and we were talking, we were talking with some people and they were like, oh, you guys going to the parties afterwards?

Speaker 1 And I'm like, I don't do cocaine.

Speaker 1 And I didn't realize this because like aloof Nick sometimes doesn't pay attention to the surroundings.

Speaker 1 But this, I found out that this particular person just got done doing cocaine after I said I don't do cocaine, but I didn't see them do cocaine. And Nellie was like, did you say that on purpose?

Speaker 1 I'm like, no, they were doing, huh? And there was.

Speaker 1 Anyway, so there's a whole world of drugs out there that we're not privy to. But I just don't get how you stay up that late as an adult.
Cocaine.

Speaker 3 Pasta.

Speaker 1 Yeah, pasta. Babies.

Speaker 1 If it's 3 a.m. and you're partying and you're an adult, four loco and a line.
How do you do it? The people do it. I don't know.
I'm not saying anyone doing anything. Some people are not.

Speaker 1 But that person was. I was going to say, I stay up late with my best friend, but we sing Disney Show tunes wasted off of Rose 8 till like 3 in the morning.
Yeah. It's pretty wholesome.
That's cute.

Speaker 1 Pretty wholesome. See, that's another explanation other than drugs.
Our drugs, at least. Yeah.
Disney keeps us going.

Speaker 1 Disney is a drug. Well, Kelsey's here.
Let's bring her on.

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Speaker 1 Kelsey, welcome back to the Vile Files. Yay! I'm happy to be back happy to have you i was just like you know what we need to have kelsey on the show we don't want joey

Speaker 1 and then we ran into joey and we're like sorry joey we're only having kelse he's like honestly she's better without me we're like okay great no i feel like at the beginning it was always nice having him as like my emotional support like you know person because i was always so nervous but now i feel like i kind of you know I can talk on my own now.

Speaker 1 I am my own room. I'm my own person now.

Speaker 1 Like, how long into your like engagement being public did you, because I think people don't talk, not that I'm trying to have some sort of therapy session with you or not, you know, but like people don't talk a lot about how the winner, regardless of which season, is like one of the worst positions to be in while it's airing and filming because I think the winner does not get a very similar experience than the rest of the people in the cast because they all feel like they get to be friends and they all have one thing in common against you that none of them do is that like he picked you and he broke up with all of them.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And then you get to hang out.
You know, it's like this weird kind of dynamic and like some of the women are able to still make friends with the other women.

Speaker 1 Sometimes there's a little bit of tension. We recently talked to Juliana who, you know, kind of echoed that same sentiment about feeling a little like isolated from the rest of the women.

Speaker 1 But like, what has that experience been like for you? Do, did you relate to it?

Speaker 1 And how did you and Joey, you know, eventually kind of work through it to like find your voice, to like feel, did, did you guys talk about it?

Speaker 1 Did you have to say, I kind of want to do my own interviews? Because, you know, at first, it's just like Joey and Kelsey, let's bring them on together.

Speaker 1 Like, it's like, as a pair, you guys are like, we always want to see the couple. Does it, does it get annoying? Um, honestly, no.

Speaker 1 I mean, like, I always told Joey, I was like, I love being your fiancé, but I also want to still always be like our individual selves.

Speaker 1 And a lot of it was like Kelsey from The Bachelor, like Kelsey, Joey's, you know. So I feel like that was hard at the beginning, but now I feel like we've kind of been able to like find our own paths.

Speaker 1 And I think that social media has helped me with that a lot, like being on TikTok and like posting videos and stuff and showing more of my personality.

Speaker 1 Cause I feel like the show, you know, they only want to show really like the love story. They didn't really show like who I was, I think fully, which is fine.

Speaker 1 You know, there's a lot of things that they were recorded.

Speaker 1 But I also feel like I just lucked out in the end because I'm friends with like pretty much all of the girls. Like, I don't know.

Speaker 1 I feel like Joey's season maybe was an anomaly, like where it's just, I don't know, like all of the girls, like I'm still really close with.

Speaker 1 I hung, hang out with Daisy and Rachel a lot because they live here and Leia. And yeah, I don't know.
I feel like we've been able to figure it out after.

Speaker 1 But at the beginning, I was kind of like, I felt like i was his just like sidekick yeah

Speaker 1 makes sense yeah that's tough and you were at stage coach this weekend yes i was

Speaker 1 when did you get back i got back at 2 a.m well i left at 2 a.m yeah that's impressive how do you do you often stay up late are you a night owl um honestly i feel like i don't get the best sleep in general like i just don't sleep a lot i can like run on no no sleep yeah god joey is not like that such a powerhouse if you if you ever want to become a mom yeah like crushing

Speaker 1 joey would be struggling i will be the one that you know can definitely stay up later i i don't know i'm really good at just surviving off minimal sleep wow it's a talent i could never do that yeah did you get in any like fights with anyone

Speaker 1 stagecoach or

Speaker 1 no it's funny the internet things you were fighting

Speaker 1 for you so funny no i said that i did not know who the person was like i obviously know who alex is i follow her on social media i've met her a couple times she's super sweet but yeah i don't know they took two scenarios of like what she was talking about and what I was talking about, which were definitely different scenarios, and then somehow put it together.

Speaker 1 And Joey sent it to me and was like, Did you see this? And I was like, What the heck? I was like, He was like, You were talking about her, right? I was like, No, I was like, You were there.

Speaker 1 You wouldn't have realized.

Speaker 1 I think she also commented under something being like, I was not talking about Kelsey. I was talking about a like a woman that was like in her like 40s or 50s.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, and I was talking, I don't know who it was.

Speaker 1 You're not talking about a little girl.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just a little, baby. A little, teeny, perfect, cute, blonde, cute, bitty, tiny, talented, super talented

Speaker 1 girl. No, no.

Speaker 1 You did recently open up about like your BBL that you got. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And how are you feeling like post-search?

Speaker 1 No, when I tell you, no, I didn't get a BBL.

Speaker 1 Like, what have I been missing? No, no, no. You didn't notice when I walked in the whole thing? I did.

Speaker 1 i tend not to look no you know yes of course yeah i'm wearing the baggy clothes on purpose uh you know our baggy jeans yeah

Speaker 1 no um i made a video like joking about it um that i was like oh someone thought that i got my ears pinned back and i was like why am i getting ears pinned back allegations like i'd rather bbl or a zen pic allegations and then it like blew up somehow now I'm telling you, like people come up to me every single day and are like, has the BBL and stuff like this?

Speaker 1 And I'm like, oh, I did not expect it to blow because on any of my comment section, it's like, there's always at least a couple comments about BBL.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, I think that people think that it's for real. You do.
Do you have a funny way of like, I feel like a lot of people in the public world will either like.

Speaker 1 ignore comments, not read comments, not like acknowledge comments. And then some people get like mad and like fight back and argue with people.

Speaker 1 And then I feel like there's you who just like make such light and just like goes with the joke kind of. When did you like start realizing that you were comfortable being like part of the?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know. I just feel like,

Speaker 1 I don't know. I like to use humor to like get through things.
And I feel like at first, whenever I got off the show, I would like read comments and they would hurt my feelings.

Speaker 1 And then Joey and I just started joking about them. And then I was like, you know what? Let me just make a video about this.
This is funny. And it's my humor.
And I.

Speaker 1 for whatever reason, people liked it. And so I was like, this is fun.
It's a fun way to like kind of cope and just be like, eh, this is stupid, you know? yeah

Speaker 1 now that you've been out of it for uh

Speaker 1 for a while and you're kind of settling into what you're doing what what is what does Kelsey want to do I don't know honestly I still feel so new to this space and I feel like navigating it is like you could go so many different directions you know um I know that Joey I feel like has kind of found his I think I'm still searching for it I really like I don't know, working with nonprofits and I like, you know, giving back to my community, but I also, I don't know, I feel like I do enjoy being, you know, on camera, period.

Speaker 1 Like, I love giving back. I also love getting them on, but I also.

Speaker 1 Thank you for saying, guys, honestly, when you're like, I love volunteering, giving back, I was like, I don't know.

Speaker 1 And again, because it's like, I we obviously obviously very important, but the especially bachelor nation people are just so like programmed to like not talk about anything they want to do as an individual to like take advantage of the opportunity they were given by going on this show and to pretend they all they want to do is find love and volunteer is just a little like nauseating

Speaker 1 and also be on TV yeah I was like you know what I'm not gonna lie guys

Speaker 1 a lot of competition shows out there yeah yeah I think that I definitely and I talked to Joey Joey and I talked about this recently where it's like I feel like he kind of not that like I hate being associated with the bachelor franchise like I feel like they you know gave me so much like Joey and I, um, you know, he gave me, they gave me Joey.

Speaker 1 Um, but I just feel like Joey was able to separate himself slightly from it and be like his own individual self through dancing with the stars.

Speaker 1 And I was like, I kind of want to be able to do the same thing where it's like, kind of separate myself, maybe show myself a little bit more in a different setting on a different TV show.

Speaker 1 So I think that that is something that I would like to do is like go on a different show, you know. I had a rumor that Joey might be going on Traitors.
Oh, did you?

Speaker 1 Do we think that he would be a traitor or a faithful? Oh, she's not answering the question.

Speaker 1 No, I don't know. I don't think that he is, but

Speaker 1 maybe he is.

Speaker 1 He told me that I'm just.

Speaker 1 She's like, I'm engaged to him, but I don't know what's going on in his life. It's fine.

Speaker 1 I feel like he would probably be a faithful. Yeah.
I think he, well, he had better be careful because he's definitely Mr. Like, well, Mr.
Popular, Mr. Joey.

Speaker 1 And I think a lot of people might be like, oh, he would make the perfect traitor. That's how I feel.

Speaker 1 That's how people get in trouble. Yeah.
Just being nice. Just being nice.

Speaker 1 It's like either being nice or like not being nice. And then people being like, well, you were talking to everybody, but you weren't really talking to me.
And that makes me think.

Speaker 1 And your trader.

Speaker 1 I feel like you could play it like whichever way you play it, somebody can just go for you. You know what I mean? It's like everyone's a target.
But the golden retriever does very well. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Dylan. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 And Joey's very golden retriever. Yes, he is.
Yeah. Little sweetie boy.
If you're a dog, what kind of dog are you? Oh, actually, we talked about this recently.

Speaker 1 I'm a boxer. Interesting.
Very allergic to them.

Speaker 1 Oh, no. Oh,

Speaker 1 say more.

Speaker 1 No, they're just like dorky animals, but like they're kind of cute, but they're just like very like clumsy and like

Speaker 1 spastic. And I feel like it's definitely me.
Nick, do you feel like you are Jeff? Jeff is kind of. Right, our dog, Jeff.
Oh, okay, okay. A little prickly, sensitive.
Grumpy a little bit.

Speaker 1 A little grumpy.

Speaker 1 But all in all, like a pretty good dog. But like, he's a damn good dog.
He's a loyal, like, he loves you, and he is a damn good dog. But he's a little, like, oh,

Speaker 1 how can you come near him? You know, I was like, not again.

Speaker 1 Jeff hates our daughter. Oh, really? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Steve loves her daughter.

Speaker 1 Jeff is first. She's just like,

Speaker 1 every time she comes near him, he gets up and moves. Like, he's like, don't even think about coming next to me.
And then Steve is just like, we'll sit there and let her like crawl over him.

Speaker 1 And it's so sweet. But no, Jeff is definitely not.

Speaker 1 He's almost four. Three.

Speaker 1 So he's not like a great grandpa grumpy dog. Yeah, he's just like, yeah, he's just like, uh, I don't

Speaker 1 think he's like a 20, yeah, he's keeping tabs on you guys. He's like, first, Steve, now River.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's like, it's too late. And honestly, if he, if he is like me, it's not that he hates River.
He's just more like, I just don't care.

Speaker 1 And after we watched Lady and the Tramp last night, and after watching Lady and the Tramp, it did make me understand Jeff a little bit more.

Speaker 1 Truly, honestly, Lady and the Tramp, Back to Not Callback, very accurate. Like in terms of

Speaker 1 the owner dog relationship, when they have a dog, it's just like when we got Jeff, he was really our baby. And it was like, we got Jeff early in our relationship.
It was my first dog.

Speaker 1 I really connected with Jeff in a way that like, I just didn't think I would with a dog. And it was just like this special relationship.

Speaker 1 But as soon as like you find out you're having a baby and the baby shows up. I mean, we still, I'm still obsessed with

Speaker 1 Jeff. And he's like, we're very lucky to have our dogs.
But for the first time in Jeff life, in Jeff's life he was a dog yeah yeah

Speaker 1 you know as opposed to being like we're just little hurry man

Speaker 1 it was like shut up please stop barking and lady and the tramp really encapsulizes like that yeah that transition how do y'all deal with because y'all travel a decent amount well maybe not so much now with river but like how was it having a dog and like traveling because joey and i want to get a dog so bad but we're like we just can't get it because we're traveling i mean it depends on what kind of dog you get some you can like bring with you yeah do you bring jeff around we do yeah We usually bring Jeff and Steve with us.

Speaker 1 It was a lot easier. A lot of training.
But yeah, a lot of training.

Speaker 1 It was a lot easier before

Speaker 1 River. Yeah, yeah.
Obviously, we only have two hands.

Speaker 1 So we will have to bring my mom to help with River. You know, there's a lot of moving parts.
Right. You know what I'm saying? But it's not

Speaker 1 doable. Okay.
It requires resources. It does.
Yeah. Yeah.
If you guys are on the like Miss Independent tour, I wouldn't. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Okay. And you're noted.
And you're definitely headlining.

Speaker 1 I'm like, that's not going to be on his birthday list.

Speaker 1 Was that on his like before 30, like need to get a dog?

Speaker 1 You're not. No, thank goodness.
No. But he was like, oh, maybe I want a dog for my birthday.
Cause I'm always like, what do you want for your birthday?

Speaker 1 Because I, you know, I've got my own ideas of like lists and stuff, but at the same time, I'm like, is there anything you want? Yeah. But yeah.
Has Joey's bucket list ever like gotten annoying?

Speaker 1 I I think that he realized like, oh, this is a lot.

Speaker 1 Like, oh, we got a lot of things to do. We're going to Japan, I think, in two weeks.
So

Speaker 1 yeah, for like five days. So we're in it.
How long is that flight?

Speaker 1 Four days.

Speaker 1 No, I think we're literally losing a day going and coming back. Wow.
Yeah. Okay.
Happy birthday.

Speaker 1 I've heard nothing but amazing things. No, yeah.
We're really excited, but it was so funny. He was like, maybe we should golf one of the days.
I was like, Joey, we're going to be there for five days.

Speaker 1 Do you really want to use it? I'm gonna

Speaker 1 say, I was like, Do you really want to use all day for golf? I was like, This is your birthday thing. So, Joey, is Joey big into golf? Oh my God, yes, he's like obsessed.
Joey is a big golfer.

Speaker 1 We've been going to like a bunch of golf events, and he got me like my own clubs. So, wow, he's like, Listen, you can come with.
I got you those clubs. Yeah, so you know, we're a golf couple.

Speaker 1 I just like kind of plug it, you know. I'm like, let me just hit that over there.
No, that's so good. How is dad's love life? Still in love, yes, still in love.

Speaker 1 I saw your dad and his

Speaker 1 girlfriend.

Speaker 1 They're like official. Yeah.
At that Hulu event. Did they go through the we're dating but not boyfriend and girlfriend stage like seems to be the case nowadays in dating culture? I don't think so.

Speaker 1 I feel like they are pretty, you know, you know, old school. I think he asked she's not my girlfriend, but we are definitely exclusive.
No, actually, we were at like a lunch or something.

Speaker 1 No, we went to dinner with like Barb's daughters and it was like Joey and I and my dad, we were at dinner and he was like, so I asked Barbara to be my girlfriend and announced it in front of everybody.

Speaker 1 I was like, that is wonderful

Speaker 1 beautiful now's gonna get the lobster yeah i was like oh

Speaker 1 we're debating whether we want natalie's mom to go on the go to the bachelor oh my gosh really yeah

Speaker 1 we're we're debating i it's she's in the process now where it's like she's done all the like interviews and stuff and now it's like waiting

Speaker 1 she's just like waiting to hear what's going on right you know and she said that she was like should i just message them and be like hey would love an update or else like would love to do something else with my summer like you know would love to make plans and she said they responded, being like, Hey, thank you so much for reaching out.

Speaker 1 We don't know. Yeah.
She was like, Okay. She's like, We fired everybody, but I'm

Speaker 1 not sure what we're doing, but like, stay in touch.

Speaker 1 Well, what did y'all think about? Did she think that the golden bachelor was cute? She said to me, I would have dated him in high school. Oh, there we go.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So I do think she loves a big, burly athlete. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But I feel like I'm just, I don't, I feel like the public eye. Straight up.
Straight up. Did your dad in any way

Speaker 1 all just

Speaker 1 become ever just the slightest diva? Diva. Where you were just like, ugh, you know, or just like, as I said to Natalie's mom, like, you know what it's like.
This shit is not normal. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It fucking changes you.

Speaker 1 It just changes your brain chemistry. And most of it is understandable.
Like the shit, like some, the way people interact with you, treat you, it's weird.

Speaker 1 And you have to change your behavior because of how people change your behavior towards you.

Speaker 1 At the same time, like it's hard to like not have it change you a little bit so it was just more like oh do i want to deal with my mother-in-law right becoming a little diva being not neither she's a wonderful person but i'm just curious your dad seems down to earth and normal and and we've heard nothing but good things but like son to like father daughter like was it was there ever like oh god

Speaker 1 honestly no i feel like it's he's like kind of awkward with it like he's like very like oh my gosh like they wanted a picture with me like still like he's like oh my gosh so very endearing like yeah yeah it's not like but sometimes I'm like yeah just take the picture come on let's let's move on

Speaker 1 give him a chance like come on no I feel like he's like more just like slightly uncomfortable but also thinks it's kind of fun

Speaker 1 yeah did Barbara slide into his DMs or like how did they come

Speaker 1 and did he know who she was when

Speaker 1 I don't think I don't think he ever watched this show I didn't one of my sisters did so she knew who she was but I think that her manager reached out to my dad actually I think she saw him actually on my season uh with joey and saw him at our hometowns my season um at our hometowns

Speaker 1 and um

Speaker 1 yeah i think that she was like wait i want to talk to that man curious yeah and how did he react to that um they would like talk on the phone for a while then he came into la

Speaker 1 and they went on a date and yeah i think he thought she was cute but they're a cute couple i know i will say speaking of how people met have you you probably haven't I've been following the story.

Speaker 1 It was the NFL draft this weekend as well, in addition to our anniversary. Missed that one.

Speaker 1 Shocker.

Speaker 1 Have you followed Bill Belichick's? Do you even know who Bill Belichick is?

Speaker 4 Yes.

Speaker 1 He's dating the like 25-year-old.

Speaker 1 She's engulfed in football. I mean, she's

Speaker 1 like a big Vikings fan, right? Yeah. Yeah.
She's in the gifted. Yeah.
I'm like, you know, I dabble in it. Well,

Speaker 1 our first year anniversary was on Sunday. And on Sunday, also,

Speaker 1 there was a CBS Good Morning news report. Bill Belichick sat down and did an interview with CBS this morning.

Speaker 1 And let's just say like, no correlation no connection between us but like it just was like they didn't they do not represent age gaps age gaps in the way we would like people to represent age gaps and what way would you like people to represent age gaps well with like you know hope

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 and and just like positivity yeah not for just we're not talking about this normalizing just like the healthy ones yeah okay

Speaker 1 you know uh

Speaker 1 he's Bill Belichick, for those of you who don't know, he's arguably the most, the best NFL coach ever in the history of coaching. He's won the most Super Bowls, I believe.

Speaker 1 He's up there, you know, second most games in general. And throughout his career, he famously has made...
journalists and other beat reporters who follow these teams scared to even ask questions.

Speaker 1 He's a very intimidating interview. And he's sitting down in this interview and the guy gets into like talking about his new relationship and they pull back and then he's like, how did you guys meet?

Speaker 1 And in the background, his new girlfriend is like,

Speaker 1 we're not answering that question. It's just like, you're answering for Bill Belichick in a way that's just like, why can't you answer that question of how you met? Just like, if just say at a bar.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Mutual friends.
Mutual friends. You could be very, we're not talking about this.
It does make us wonder why you're not talking about it.

Speaker 1 But then they brought up the Instagram post where it's like him laying down on the beach and like she's on top of his legs and like whatnot.

Speaker 1 And it's like, you guys are doing very Instagram coupley things. Why would you not want to talk about your relationship? Right.
You don't have to put it out there.

Speaker 1 But that the way she's like in charge of that aspect of their, like, is she's running like a PR. Like, I couldn't imagine.
I'm not even Bill Belichick.

Speaker 1 And the way, like, if Natalie and I, in the first couple months of us dating, I was doing interviews, and then Nally was in the background being like, we're not answering that question.

Speaker 1 Don't ask it again.

Speaker 1 Could you imagine? It's like, what high-end escort service did you reach out to to meet your girlfriend?

Speaker 1 Because that's what now the entire internet is speculating. Being like,

Speaker 1 why? Why don't you want to answer that question? It's not even like a hard, like, even like, okay, you're dating. There's an an age gap, whatever, like, fine.

Speaker 1 You know, like, we like to think that looks matter, but like,

Speaker 1 he very much looks his age.

Speaker 1 And at the right page, I was 77. Is he 77? How old is he? I don't know.
He's

Speaker 1 20. She's 24.
Or four, okay. But, like, very much.
73. Very much.
73. Yeah.
Well, she's, maybe she just wants, you know, like, listen, a lot of what we say, like, a lot of it matters.

Speaker 1 A lot of it depends on looks, age gaps.

Speaker 1 Also, like, where you are in your time of life. And, like, do you feel like you're each other's equals? Can you give the same energy?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, for sure.
For sure. She was saying that next.
I was also, I was going to go into that next, but it does. I feel like a lot of it does matter on where you are.

Speaker 1 And maybe she's like, listen, I don't

Speaker 1 want any of that at all. I just like want, you know, kind of like Dave Portnoy's girlfriend, like he's made it very clear.

Speaker 1 He's not having children and he's not remarrying, you know, like I think he's still currently married to his first wife. And it's like, why him and Silvana broke up.

Speaker 1 And now he just has gone like public with his new girlfriend who's a young blonde. And it's like, listen, if she's not looking to like get married and have kids right now, then like have fun.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, period. Anyways,

Speaker 1 next time someone asks how you met, at least lie. Yeah.
No,

Speaker 1 there's so many easy options. I know.
I'm going to be. I slid into his DMs.
Sometimes we met at a bar.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Crazy.
Grocery store. Sounds believable.
Honestly.

Speaker 1 Should we get into

Speaker 1 Doreet and PK?

Speaker 1 I know you're not a big fan of reality TV, but Doreet Kimsley, she is a Beverly Hills housewife. She's going through a little separation.

Speaker 1 And kind of the whole season, it was like, are they going to get back together? Like, are they going to make it work? What's going on?

Speaker 1 And PK was seen making out with another blonde reality TV star over the weekend. And she looked very similar to his legally wife, Doreet Kimsley.

Speaker 1 Um, and which then made her file for divorce like the next day, like saw the photo and was like, and I'm done. Yep, wrap it up, that'll do it.

Speaker 1 Then he went on Instagram,

Speaker 1 yeah, he went on Instagram and made, Do we have his he said, no one plays the victim better than the one who caused the damage on a black screen,

Speaker 1 mysterious, mysterious, PK does love a like notes app, Comic Sans, yeah, yeah,

Speaker 1 it was a weird font, fair to me. It was a very weird font.
It was like, it was, it was a weird font.

Speaker 1 You watched him like scroll through the fonts and like play with a couple of them. And then he landed on that one.
He took away his power by going with that font.

Speaker 1 He said, it looks like I wrote this myself.

Speaker 1 It took away his power. It really did.
Yeah, it was like, it was like an old man putting on a shirt that he thought was cool without asking any of his friends if he should step out.

Speaker 1 And he's always just sending these written statements or like feeling the need need to shut down a room or whatever with just like black screen white font.

Speaker 1 But the woman he was making out with was on the season 12 of the amazing race, and she's also dated Ryan Seacrust in the past.

Speaker 1 So I think that they're all just kind of probably in the same circles, but it is shocking how much she looks. Same circle as that.
Just entertainment in general in LA, I would feel like. I am curious.

Speaker 1 What is it about PK that is?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it does make me judge this woman more than it does make me judge PK because I am confused at like what's he working? What's like what like I get I get Mo. No, I get Moe.
I get Mo. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Tall, sexy, still got the looks, seems to be pretty rich still.

Speaker 1 And then PK is kind of like maybe in debt. Alcoholic, we know that.

Speaker 1 Or recovering. Not sure.

Speaker 1 Deresa really doesn't know the state of his. Do you know who these people look like?

Speaker 1 Bring them up. Bring them up.
Bring them up. Bring them up side-by-side people.
I've been wondering what Peekkam is

Speaker 1 housewives. I feel like so many of of my friends watch Housewives, and I'm always like, oh, I need to get into it.
But then I just... You do.
You do.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this is PK. Okay.

Speaker 1 And that's his wife, Dore.

Speaker 1 Go to the third photo over, and that is the new woman he was caught making out with. Like, where are they? Does it say?

Speaker 1 Now, do we think these are staged pop photos or not? Anytime I see paparazzi pictures, I always think it's staged. I think it's well, okay.
PK, his biggest thing is that he's boy George's manager.

Speaker 1 No one's stalking him no well no his biggest thing right now is he's the husband of a housewife who's famously kind of messy online and going through a very public divorce and that like

Speaker 1 that would drive a paparazzi to to pay attention yeah i don't know not everyone is staged

Speaker 1 natalie it was outside chipriani's oh yes of course if it's a good-looking photo of both people chances are it's staged well like also he's not trying to hide it if he's at chipriani's it's the same chipriani's i'm not not familiar with it isn't like an Italian restaurant, yeah, an Italian restaurant really popular in New York.

Speaker 1 I guess we have one in Beverly Hills area, but it's like going to Craigs or something where it's like you don't think

Speaker 1 Paparazzi is going to be out there, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 So he wanted to be seen whether he called them himself, I don't know, but this is what's jarring to me. Yeah, if he showed up to Craigs with a new lady, that's on purpose.

Speaker 1 It's the same person, yeah, like and that's his wife, like that's crazy. He's trying, he's also publicly posting on his Instagram stories like dramatic, dramatic things.
So he's doing this on purpose.

Speaker 1 And what do we think his purpose is? To piss off Dari. To win the divorce? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Sure, but what is winning the divorce? Looking like you're the most moved on and, I guess, settled.

Speaker 1 He's trying to make it seem like she's causing all of this drama where it's just like you don't have to react to it either. Well, he's, yeah, if anything, he's giving.
We're divorced.

Speaker 1 We've been going through a divorce. Whatever she's doing publicly, I've no idea.
But in reality, we're getting divorced. Yeah, and you are following what she's doing.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think he doesn't want to lose his diamond. I think that's what's going on.

Speaker 1 That's the thing. He's also very involved in housewives for a guy who's supposed to not give a shit.

Speaker 1 He's very petty. He posted on his Instagram stories, no one plays the victim better than the one who caused the damage.
Obviously, it'll never happen. What? It'll never happen.
But never.

Speaker 1 But if, let's say, Terra, there was trouble in paradise. Who do you think would be the messier of you two in a breakup? I honestly don't think either of us would.
Obviously.

Speaker 1 Well, that's what Paige and Craig.

Speaker 1 Well, Well, I just feel like, I don't know. You can't.

Speaker 1 I mean, if it was, it'd probably be me.

Speaker 1 Kelsey would make a TikTok and be like,

Speaker 1 matter of fact. No, Joker.

Speaker 1 No, I just feel like neither of us are messy people. Like, I don't know.
I don't think that I would ever be publicly messy. Like, I'd maybe like say something to my friends.

Speaker 1 Like, if he may be upset, and I'm sure vice versa. But, like, sure.
Yeah. Saying you're friends.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Publicly, no. The way reality TV stars just can't just

Speaker 1 hold. No, literally, it does get crazy.
Not say anything. So, what about Taylor Frankie Paul and Dakota over Stagecoach?

Speaker 1 I saw that. I'm at a hard time keeping up.
Actually, because I watched Mormon once. Well, we

Speaker 1 that's not that it's reality TV. Well, let me tell you, season two is an absolute banger.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 season two. It's good.
It comes out

Speaker 1 May 12th. I've seen it.
Oh, I'm excited. Yeah, it's very good.
But we have what Dakota like blocked Taylor. Yeah.
Dakota blocking Taylor.

Speaker 1 You have Taylor and Macy in a car doing a TikTok being like, if you're done with your ex, move on to the next. And she's like, I guess I'm self-sabotaging their relationship again.

Speaker 1 And then hours later, here's Taylor posting her in Dakota, Dakota licking her neck. And it's like, wait, what is her caption was like stagecoach with my cast mates.

Speaker 1 Like it was like not like father of my it wasn't like love. It was with my cast mates.
Yeah. Very busy.
Well, I'm invested. Oh, I can't wait.
I'm excited. I met all of them.

Speaker 1 Like, I feel like like at multiple things now, and they seem so nice. And, like, whenever you see them together, you're like, oh, there's no drama.

Speaker 1 But then you watch the show and you're like, oh, my gosh.

Speaker 1 No, it's crazy. There's a lot of drama brewing.
Oh, she actually edited her caption and said, I never let my heart go all the way with my castmates and co-parent.

Speaker 1 Thank you, Apple Stage Coach, for having us. Oh, with my castmates and co-parents.
Co-parent. Okay.
More clarification. Not even baby dad.

Speaker 1 Co-parent. Co-parent.
Very formal.

Speaker 1 Like they met in a science lab. It is very formal.
It's getting very formal. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Very professional.

Speaker 1 Nothing says co-parent like that. It's like hickey my neck.

Speaker 1 It is like a hickey. Sierra brought up an interesting point earlier with the Mormon wives where it's like, what's the line between their real lives and what they're doing? I don't think they know.

Speaker 1 I think it's so blurred at this point because it's like, I hate them on the show right now, but I'm actually best friends with them on TikTok. I never hate them on the show.

Speaker 1 No, I'm saying like them hating each other on the show or it's like you hear all the drama about what's going to happen in the show and then you get on TikTok and it's like, no, they're literally hanging out together well I would say and what I love about them is that like they are well more real than the average person because I do think like a lot of times people especially in LA they just like talk their shit behind your back you know it's just like yeah yeah

Speaker 1 and they're they just they say it to each other's faces yeah and then they move on you know they're kind of like

Speaker 1 but a lot of I mean that's honestly fairly I'm not gonna say it's healthy communication

Speaker 1 but at least you know where they stand and they kind of get through it and it's all in the name of honesty of like you know hey we're mormon we can't lie so like i think you're up

Speaker 1 you know like i which i kind of love and respect and it makes for great tv i mean they are

Speaker 1 i'm having a like it's i don't know who's friends i don't know who's not i don't know who's pregnant i don't know who's not put it this way i've seen the whole season it's awesome and like i'm still con like generally having a hard time keeping up.

Speaker 1 Are you confused? Because I'm confused. I think the only person I'm clear on is Demi and Whitney are friends.
Yes. They did like all their press together.
Oh, all their photos are together.

Speaker 1 I think that's like they're buddies. But like the rest, I'm confused.
And then they all posted to promote Vanderpump Villa. So then I'm seeing like everybody in the photos.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, who's friends with who?

Speaker 1 Wait, did they go to Vander? Did they feel a van? Okay, that's what I saw. I saw like a little snippet and I was like, oh, and that's an house of them.
I'll be going home to watch that one.

Speaker 1 They were trying to save that show. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Let's be be honest. I wonder if it did, honestly.
I wonder if it did. Yeah, they had to make some changes to the format because I think it was just so trying to do a below deck situation.

Speaker 1 So now they've kind of upped the ante with almost game show aspect of it, where the people that are working at the villa, they're now competing for like the top spot as like pretty much employee of the season.

Speaker 1 And they'll win $30,000 plus a contract with Lisa Vanderpump, whether it's like chef or whether like to work at one of her restaurants. $30,000 to work for Lisa? $30,000 to win

Speaker 1 minimum wage to me. But then you get an opportunity with Lisa.
That sounds like minimum wage. Yeah, it's like you win $30,000 and then you get a job.
Minimum wage. There we go.

Speaker 1 They got nothing season one.

Speaker 1 Do we deserve the credit for making Lisa like separate herself from James Kennedy? I feel like that was a little bit more.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't say we should take that, but I will say that maybe she did see a little something and maybe someone asked her on a red carpet.

Speaker 1 Someone did ask Kristen Dotie about our interview on a red carpet.

Speaker 1 So I don't find it that impossible that someone asked her about the phone call that she made to Ally Luber being like, hey, why would you convince her to go back to her abusive ex-boyfriend?

Speaker 1 That seems toxic. And she was like, oh, I actually don't support him any longer.
I'm separating myself from James Kennedy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it makes sense. But she is hiring someone for $30,000.
Well, she's giving them $30,000 and then indebting them with a job. That sounds like a $30,000

Speaker 1 job. Yeah, bonus.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That sounds like minimum wage.

Speaker 1 And I will say what is interesting about the show is because I did think that Vanderpump Villa was going to be a set location and that she would try to get people to want to like go and reserve it or whatever.

Speaker 1 But last season was in France. This season's in Italy.
So it's like just for the show. Like there is no Vanderpump Villa.
There's no standing villa that you could go visit off.

Speaker 1 Vanderpump Villa is not real. It's not.
No. That's the point.
It's a house they were real. That's what I was confused about.
Airbnb. They're at a castle this time, but like it's, yeah.
Okay.

Speaker 1 When they're done with the castle, I guess they break it down and pick the next location. Break down the castle.

Speaker 1 Whatever they they built in there. Are you saying her entire world is not real and fake? I would never expose somebody in such a way.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Well, Jax Taylor was caught exposing his crotch in public.

Speaker 1 Joey would never.

Speaker 1 Joey would never.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 who is this? Jax Taylor. From Vanderpump Pools and the Valley.
Yes. He was walking down the street, I guess, going into a grocery store.

Speaker 1 Paparazzi are there, and he decides to lower his pants to scratch deep inside his pants and the paparazzi got it all.

Speaker 1 This is fucking wearing underwear?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 4 It's Jack, so probably not.

Speaker 1 No. He like full on is like,

Speaker 1 he's like, he's like a pull down and then a scratch. That's disgusting.
This man has a child. This man has a son.
Yes. Do you think that was like on purpose?

Speaker 1 It's just like, I can't understand whether or not he knew the paparazzi were there. It's just like, why would that ever be an appropriate thing for you to do out in public?

Speaker 1 Does he think he's like, it's like a fuck you to the paparazzi or something i don't know but it's also like i think he's crashing out right now because he was on like live and his publicist was like get off right now stop what you're doing and then comment log off he was on for like five minutes talking about like how great he's doing how he's been to rehab how he's a changed mayor

Speaker 1 now he's like hey everyone i'm doing great this publicist is like you have to stop talking about it

Speaker 1 He's like, no, I'm doing actually pretty good. She's like, get off.

Speaker 1 You're done. Feeling like my best self finally for the first day in a while.
Get the fuck off live. Stop talking publicly right now.

Speaker 1 And he's no longer doing the podcast with Brittany, so he started a new podcast called In the Mind of a Man podcast. That's scary.
I don't want to log in. That's your worst nightmare.

Speaker 1 In the mind of a man. You'll never want to be there.
You'll never want to be there. I'm so dark.
I will not be logged in. That is my worst nightmare.
Don't log us all in with you, Jax.

Speaker 1 And it should be the mind of Jax.

Speaker 1 He labeled himself a walking red flag, and he's wearing a shirt with Ick on it.

Speaker 1 So he's really leaning into this branding. That's all I have to say on that.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Cheers.

Speaker 1 That's that's so. The way we the way we love her.
Sinking ship.

Speaker 1 I just want to look away, I will say. Have you seen any of the

Speaker 1 kind of like influencers, not like under fire, because it's not that big of a deal, but like people kind of giving them hate for like what they're naming their children? Have you seen any of this?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I feel like I've seen some.

Speaker 1 It's specific.

Speaker 1 It's gotten to the point. I think someone commented this: of like, you're just like,

Speaker 1 you're just naming objects. Like, these are not children.
It's just like some people are like, oh, like, here are names that we love, but we're not using.

Speaker 1 And it's like, for our girl, we're thinking umbrella. And it's like, that's okay.
We're losing the plot. Like, you've got to at some point.
Right. We've got to reel it in.
100%.

Speaker 1 Cities work. Yeah.
Baby blue. No.

Speaker 1 Some colors work for sure.

Speaker 1 But like a city, think about it. A A city could work.
Madison. Yeah.
Memphis. Paris.
Paris. Countries? No.

Speaker 1 Mexico.

Speaker 1 Canada. Bangladesh.

Speaker 1 Chile.

Speaker 1 Spoon. Like, some things are just objects.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Bodies of water work. Yeah.
River. Atlantic.
Oh.

Speaker 1 Lake.

Speaker 1 No, but ocean, like Pacific.

Speaker 1 You know, it's like we also all, at some point, were like, Northwest is crazy to name your daughter. And now we're kind of like,

Speaker 1 honestly,

Speaker 1 Apple. Sorry, Gwen.
Apple still gets me. It was always crazy.
It's still crazy. How old is it?

Speaker 1 She's got to be grown by now. But that's the whole point.

Speaker 1 I wonder what she is. When we went into naming River, like you have to think about, yes, you are naming a cute little like girl with pigtails who's like super cute and maybe woozy and like so cute.

Speaker 1 Then you're naming like a girl who's in high school. And then you're naming like a CEO boss bitch who like is heading meetings, being like, Hello, everyone.

Speaker 1 My name is Mexico Tarantula, and I am here to get it's like you have to, at some point, like

Speaker 1 I think at least you need to give them a normal middle name, right? So they have the option. 100%.

Speaker 1 Also, my mom, she would rhyme our names with everything before we were born just to make sure we weren't going to get made fun of.

Speaker 1 So thoughtful.

Speaker 1 So thoughtful. Yeah.
Kelsey Belsie. Kelsey.
Yep. Seems like that.
Fine. Yeah.

Speaker 1 My mom put so much thought into all to all of our names. Like my sister is Taylor Victoria.
And then my other sister is Jordan Elizabeth. And both of our names.
And then I'm Kelsey Alexandra.

Speaker 1 So it's two-syllable, gender-neutral first names. And then our middle names are three-syllable, proper feminine queen names.
And you get queens.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Buffalo.
She is, I love it. Buffalo.
She's like, I don't want them to be jealous of each other's names either. I was like, like, one gets a queen, and I get a princess.

Speaker 1 I only have two syllables.

Speaker 1 Wednesday?

Speaker 1 Wednesday. Remember Wednesday? Adams? No.
Yeah, that's what I was just thinking. No, was it tomorrow? What was it yesterday? Afternoon? What was it?

Speaker 1 Afternoon was Francesca Fargo's on her list of we aren't using what we love afternoon. And everyone was like, girl, you can keep.

Speaker 1 Because I think she was like, I don't want to say this one yet because we might use it. What did she use?

Speaker 1 Lock it and poetry. Okay.
But we'll see. That's a thing.
That's just a thing.

Speaker 1 You know, and honestly, I don't really give a fuck because because it's not my kids name so i don't have to call you that like somebody's kid's name is rumble honey rumble honey there's also absidy have you abcde no stall yeah hello

Speaker 1 wow it's like really good like i think whoever has a kid next it should name them honestly like mark yeah like the most basic name and then it will be so unique yeah you know because everyone's just going bonkers i want i want one of our kids joey and i's kids to like have a super Italian first name just because his last name's so Italian.

Speaker 1 Like I want him to be like, I don't know, like Luigi.

Speaker 1 Luigi Graziani.

Speaker 1 Luigi might be Takeoff.

Speaker 1 Once Giacomo's Giacomo Giannotti. Oh, yeah.
Giacomo Giannotti. We had him on it, like that name.
Right? You know, just a little bit of a game.

Speaker 1 But he also said he got like very bullied for it because he was like, it was very Italian. So I think he went by like Jack.
Yeah, he went by Jack.

Speaker 1 No, I was really happy to realize that after we named River River, that it's actually a fairly common name this year. A lot of boys are named River, but like she's like, it's common.

Speaker 1 And it's like, I don't think you want to be the kid in elementary or middle school or even high school with like everyone being like, wow, I've never heard that before. What is your name? Right.
Huh?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Like, that's, you're just setting your kid up for, there's so much pressure to be the coolest kid ever.
Or they're just going to have to, you know, learn learn how to, I don't know. Fight.

Speaker 1 Fight.

Speaker 1 I feel like teachers have to be like the kids that are coming in with these teachers, learning how to pronounce and spell them. You know, they're so nervous.

Speaker 1 I remember my teachers being like, okay, everyone, you only have one name to remember and I have 27. So cut me some slack.
And they'd be like going down being like, I'm going to mess this up.

Speaker 1 So I'm just going to go with your last name. If you could just tell me how to say that.

Speaker 1 Smith, what is your first name? Okay, got it. Thank you.
You know, it's like they were all. And now I bet they're like, and now you have like Obsidi.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like you're like, this is just letters. Yeah.
Yeah. Christmas.
You will never forget Afternoon. You know who has a fun name and is really

Speaker 1 being talked about right now? JoJo Siwa. JoJo Siwa, your bestie.

Speaker 1 She is fresh off of Celebrity Brook Brother, UK style. UK? Making waves.

Speaker 1 It started with her getting Mickey Rourke banished. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, I mean, look at that. Which honestly feels like a lifetime.
He got got himself compared to a lot of people.

Speaker 1 He portrayed a type of homophobia that we have not seen in years. He was ignorant and

Speaker 1 giving very like old, outdated man. Yeah.
Problematic. Yeah.
And he's action movie level terrifying.

Speaker 1 And then, what? Like, she

Speaker 1 kind of sparked up a romance

Speaker 1 that got the internet talking. Well, romance, maybe, maybe, maybe.
We don't know. This is all.
Everyone should be able to do that. They were definitely like very...

Speaker 1 Chris.

Speaker 1 Her and Chris were very. From Love Island, UK.
Yeah. They were very like, they had a bond.
They were holding hands. It was chemistry.
They were snuggling. They were like kissing foreheads.

Speaker 1 They were, you know, showing affection.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 Jojo comes out and says, you know what, everyone, I am not lesbian. I'm queer.
Which the internet really ran with. But it seemed that that was based off a level of ignorance.
Was it not, Mary?

Speaker 1 I think the biggest thing of this is that... Well, it's normal for like someone who's like 21 to be figuring out their sexuality.
Like

Speaker 1 getting older. Jojo's 21.
This is basically like her and like theater.

Speaker 1 We're basically watching JoJo go to college on TV. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So like makes sense that you think that you're figuring stuff out.

Speaker 1 I think what gets what gets tricky is when the branding comes into it because now Jojo has kind of branded herself as like lesbian pop singer and now she's like well queer and everyone's like Jojo, but she's allowed to do whatever she wants.

Speaker 1 But her recent her former partner of recently a couple days ago

Speaker 1 is non-binary. Yes, they're non-binary.
So like it could, you know, but Kath, like, I guess, sent like a letter. They like all read letters from home.

Speaker 1 And in Jojo's letter from home, her mom writes, and Kath says they're very keen on seeing you when you get out. And Jojo was like, that's fucking it.
You're keen to see me. You don't miss me.

Speaker 1 You don't love me. You don't like, can't wait to kiss me, nothing.

Speaker 1 And so then as soon as Jojo exited Big Brother, there was a breakup

Speaker 1 with Kath. Yeah.
So Jojo went to the party, to the after party. She said you were dumb

Speaker 1 and dumped them at the after party. And now everyone's like, okay, so what's going on? And now she's playing tennis with Chris.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 1 always providing us entertainment, Jojo Siwat. Thank you so much for your support.
Jojo works. It's crazy.
She's 21. It's crazy.

Speaker 1 She's grown up and like in front of our eyes. Yeah.
She's like, I haven't talked to her. I FaceTimed her when she got out of the house.
She did not answer. Oh.
And playing tennis.

Speaker 1 I hope to find out the tea tea. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Shortly. I hope to find out the tea.
Yeah. It's like T T is a little T T too much.
Sorry. Okay.
Sorry.

Speaker 1 He's trying to be hip.

Speaker 1 He's trying to be hip.

Speaker 1 They don't say tea anymore. They don't.
No. Soup? Yeah, they say soup.
What do they say?

Speaker 1 It's going to be the soup, piping hot soup. What do the Gen Z or say? No, I'm just fucking with you.

Speaker 1 They say rad. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Cool. Cool.
Dope. Tubular.

Speaker 1 Tubular. That's awesome.
Kelsey, it's been fun. Yay.
Thank you, guys.

Speaker 1 Plug. Oh, Kelsey Anderson is my Instagram, and it's something like that with my TikTok as well.
Well, get the hell out of here.

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Georgia, how's it going?

Speaker 1 Welcome to the show. Welcome back.
So good.

Speaker 4 I'm so glad to be back.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Last time you were here, it was

Speaker 1 depressed. Wow.
Depressed.

Speaker 1 I was going through it.

Speaker 1 Have you recovered from said drama?

Speaker 1 Yes, thankfully.

Speaker 1 I feel like you have entered like this whole new era of your life where it's like, I don't even associate you anymore with Too Hot to Handle or Perfect Match or like any of those shows.

Speaker 1 Like I feel like you've made such a name for yourself outside of those shows. Have you risen above the people who brought you down?

Speaker 4 100%.

Speaker 4 And a big part of that was like moving away. I moved to New York and and I was like, wow, there are people here that don't care about this stuff.
Like, they're doing stuff outside of social media.

Speaker 4 And I don't know, it just changed my whole perspective on everything. I was kind of like, why do I care about that? I know what these people are like.
I don't need to tell everyone. Like, I know.

Speaker 1 Is there like, is there like an in? I mean, I think this is like a stupid rhetorical question, I suppose, because I feel like I know the answer, but like, is there like a influency like group in LA?

Speaker 1 Like a like a like a circle of

Speaker 1 definitely. And I feel like tryhards.

Speaker 4 yes and I feel like when I moved here it was my first experience of this place so I kind of like I'd see these people everywhere and I thought they were like real and friends and I kind of learned along the way that it's not many people you can trust in that influencery thing do they all drive nice cars and pay rent

Speaker 1 literally to let you nail that someday no one owns a house but they all drive G-Wagons they've all got the fake like drip I'm like okay like there's an option that's my favorite thing about them it's like you know you're a loser if you, if you don't own a home, but your car is

Speaker 1 car payments $1,500. If your car payments is much or more than your rent.
That's good. Literally.

Speaker 4 That's a really good indication.

Speaker 4 That's everyone in LA.

Speaker 1 And I know. Not everyone.
Everyone I know.

Speaker 4 I only got introduced to the clicks, you know? Okay.

Speaker 1 Like, TV New York has like opened your eyes to genuine friendships, better people.

Speaker 4 It's amazing. It's like people are actually doing things outside of what I'm doing.
And I'm like, wow, like, you know, what I'm doing is not the be all end all of like everything.

Speaker 4 You know, I don't have to worry about stuff online. Like people are doing different shit.

Speaker 1 They're like, like, do you have a friend in purchasing?

Speaker 4 What do you mean, purchasing?

Speaker 1 Like a normal job? Like an accountant?

Speaker 4 Everyone, yeah.

Speaker 4 Everyone's in finance. Everyone's cool.
I'm like, this is where I should be.

Speaker 4 Sales associate.

Speaker 1 This is the men that I want to surround myself with. Competitive sales rep.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 All of the cool stuff.

Speaker 4 But yeah, no, they're like real, down to earth. If they don't like you, they'll tell you.
And I'm like, thank you. Like, I just want people to be honest.
I'm

Speaker 1 like, oh, my God. I love her.

Speaker 1 I haven't seen that so long. And you're like, you were just talking shit about it.
You're going to get lunch sometime.

Speaker 4 Oh, weren't you just sleeping with my ex? It's crazy.

Speaker 1 Good to see you. Oh, my God.

Speaker 4 And I'm like, that's literally my life.

Speaker 1 You know what I heard about that badge? That's so crazy. Literally.

Speaker 4 And then you have a new show and they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 They come back out. Yeah.
I'm like, what is your love life like these days?

Speaker 4 Non-existent and I'm loving that. I'm not going to lie.

Speaker 1 you need to date a normie.

Speaker 4 I did date what I thought was a normie. Turned out to not be so normal.
What does that mean?

Speaker 1 No, I mean like not, I mean, sure, like you might just find out they're a psychopath.

Speaker 4 But he was like not, you know, out of the scene. No one knew who he was, low-key, didn't post online, private account, love, ticked away.

Speaker 1 Went by like a different name.

Speaker 4 Yes. And then I kind of thought that that was like by choice.
And then I realized this guy's like, you know, maybe he's hiding some stuff.

Speaker 4 And I moved to New York and I was like, you know, with him for a while, things were good. And then, yeah, not so good.

Speaker 4 Now I'm like, I dated another person after that that was the most diabolical person I've ever dated in my life.

Speaker 1 The most?

Speaker 4 The most. Like, I'm not, we've topped.

Speaker 1 I really like.

Speaker 4 It's like anyone I'm attracted to, I need to like get away from.

Speaker 1 To not be attracted to your

Speaker 1 partner. How do I change that? Do we need to unpack that, George?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I'm like doing therapy now. So I'm like unpacking that.
I'm like, what's wrong with me? Why do I find these people? Like, it's not.

Speaker 1 And how were they diabolical? Just like,

Speaker 4 so manipulative, can present a whole person that they're not. And you find out a few months later that they're nothing like that.
Really controlling, gaslighting.

Speaker 4 The last guy I was seeing literally went through my phone in my sleep, hacked my iCloud, got my location and had tracked me for five months. I had no idea.

Speaker 4 When we stopped speaking, was turning up to places that I was and making out it was a coincidence. Then one night called me and told me, I know you just walked through your front door.

Speaker 4 I was like, dude, I'm moving.

Speaker 1 Like, I can't do that.

Speaker 4 The people I meet are like, what did you think of me when you met me?

Speaker 1 Like, did you think, what was like, on the chances he's a psychopath scale, like, what were you like thinking?

Speaker 1 Um, well, I mean, I think we like went to, on our first date, we like went to dinner like an hour after I had ever met him in person. And he was like, so, like, I could kill you tonight.

Speaker 1 And I was like, oh, wait, that's hilarious.

Speaker 1 That's like, I think about that's not hilarious to actually happen, but like, you never know who you're dating you're like what if i'm a saga baby literally he's like so i could like actually kill you

Speaker 1 i'm not but like i was judging her

Speaker 1 being like what is wrong with you yeah like i'm like were you that bad what were you that bad no i no i'm that good okay yeah obviously i feel like you guys are great so i wouldn't see like i'm i'm a

Speaker 1 I'm a normal person, but I was doing an unnormal thing. So I was judging her for meeting me, being like, how do you not know I'm not fucking?

Speaker 1 And also are you going to murder me yeah that's my response is like well what if i oh i would definitely be afraid of

Speaker 1 you guys are like we murder each other i mean the only person who would do this is someone who's going to kill me

Speaker 1 how many people know where you are right now literally i knew why i was doing it like so do you want to have you a location

Speaker 4 is anyone expecting you on right now

Speaker 1 could you actually turn off your location services right now or are you close with your family

Speaker 1 well I mean honestly though but maybe maybe that's kind of what you're not looking for like there was an a healthy amount of like awkwardness between Nally and I and nervousness of both being like

Speaker 1 I don't know about you you know and yet we were both kind of like I hopefully giving each other like green flags but like we we were like very

Speaker 4 there was a there was like an awkwardness I feel like I mistake chemistry like I think I'm connecting with someone and it's actually like a toxic bond forming it's someone really manipulative and they're really playing me and I'm like we're so the same

Speaker 4 oh my god this is like I'm gonna marry this person and then I realize they're nothing like that I'm like I need to like stop like I need to chill

Speaker 1 yeah I just maybe I'm the only good guy so wait how did you how did you

Speaker 4 probably how you are how did you get um your his your location off of his like phone so I I had an inkling something was going on when he kept turning up to places that i was and i was like calling my mom and i'm like this sounds really crazy but there's too many coincidences happening he keeps turning up to places and she's like he's tracking you and i'm like

Speaker 4 how would i even see that so i went through my phone and looked at like location was off i made sure family sharing i've heard you can do that turn that off i'm like no i have to be good this is in my head then the phone call happen and i'm like panic I go into Apple.

Speaker 4 They've seen this shit before. So they're like changing all my passwords, like telling me what was probably the likely scenario.
And I, I 100% know it. Like I'm a deep sleeper.
He knew my password.

Speaker 4 I would always fall asleep before him. Sometimes I'd wake up, the vibe would be off.
I wouldn't know why. It was like obvious that he'd been snooping, doing stuff.

Speaker 4 And he knew things that you could only know if you were in my phone. Like, but I was like, you know, what are the odds of that? Like, you just never think it'll happen until you have proof.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 And yeah, I just think like.

Speaker 1 We can

Speaker 1 bleep this out, but are we talking about

Speaker 4 yes? Who? i've never met a man like this this is like i'm not kidding he's like possessed tall is he short too short to act like that

Speaker 4 i'm such a thing that's the thing but if if like if he's got a great face you know how you can get away with their height was like you know it's like we made some exceptions not that you have to

Speaker 1 no matter how no matter how much fucked up a tall man is he's still tall yeah and he still like doesn't have to overcompensate Yeah. And sadly, they get away with that.
With the short kings.

Speaker 1 With the short kings,

Speaker 1 there's a real, there's a real, no matter the problem with the short kings, and I love the short kings, and I do think the short kings need more representation.

Speaker 1 And I do think the ladies out there need to be open to like 5'10. But like the problem sometimes with the short kings

Speaker 1 is there's there's a true such a good concept. There's a true, like, um, there's an always constant, like, what's the, what, what's the word I'm for?

Speaker 1 Imposter syndrome? Yes. So no matter how much success they have in their life,

Speaker 1 their childhood self and like their high school self will never really believe that like, you know, obviously

Speaker 1 you're a beautiful, attractive person. And then like, you know, they're just like, they just can't outlive the person they see in the mirror and they become insane.
Well, you really can't.

Speaker 1 Be careful of the ultra-successful short kings.

Speaker 4 See, that was it.

Speaker 4 Successful short king. That's great.

Speaker 4 And when I met this guy, I was like, he's a dream. Like he's foreign, cute accent.
Like we really vibed. He was like, I'm not like, you know, I'm kind of, I don't really care about the scene stuff.

Speaker 1 But when they say I'm not like,

Speaker 4 yes. And then

Speaker 4 I've never met someone that wanted to put me down so bad. Like, he very successful.
I was always like, you're amazing. Like, you're so great.
He was like, you, your career is so embarrassing.

Speaker 4 Can't be seen with you in public. Like, don't walk near me at this event because like we can't be seen together

Speaker 4 why would you accept that well because it was kind of put through in a way that was really like disguised in the beginning it was like my team says I can't be seen with you I'm really sorry but it's a bad look for me

Speaker 1 and I'm like I understand that no well I'm like you kept me private

Speaker 1 shows like I'm like this comes with a thing but you did keep me private for a long time so if you had because I was obviously very yeah I was like

Speaker 4 okay i was i was like you know i get it i've been on dating

Speaker 4 it's not the best look you know i'm like i can understand like i'm not like you know i get it i get it you're a successful guy this is probably not i get it but eventually this better not be a problem right and then it was like you know masks in that he's really proud of me but whatever and then we would have arguments i kid you not he would look at me and say we do not compare i'm here you're here you need to know that and i was like i never said I would just ball.

Speaker 1 I was like, wait, what the hell? That's so sad.

Speaker 4 So sad. And then he would like snap out of it and be like, I don't know why I said that.
I'm so sorry. Like, I'm so proud of you.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, splits pressure. I usually see what's happening.

Speaker 4 Okay. That's what I think.

Speaker 1 Are we? We need, well, yeah, recording this, so we are documenting. Like, we need to come up with some key phrases for you.
Like, when they say, please help me.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry for saying, I don't know why I said that. Yeah, yeah.
And a calm, immediate, like.

Speaker 4 I'm like, it's okay.

Speaker 1 No. Oh, you're forgiven.

Speaker 1 I honestly forgot what you said.

Speaker 1 If they don't know why they said that,

Speaker 1 then the answer is they're a psychopath.

Speaker 4 Literally, I know, but he would be the same.

Speaker 1 If they say something crazy and then black out and go, I don't know why. Literally red flags.

Speaker 1 Or I'll write this down.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 4 I don't know. I need to change like that part of me that's like too forgiving and accepting because those things grow and they grew.
And I was like, damn, okay, should have paid attention to that.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 And that happened on my birthday, by the way. It was my birthday when that one happened.

Speaker 1 What's the relationship with your dad?

Speaker 4 My dad, yeah, this is where. This is where I've done the research in the

Speaker 4 emotional trauma. And I think it's because my mom and my dad never got married.
They are like really good friends. But my dad's from Sydney in Australia.
My mom's from Queensland.

Speaker 4 She moved when she was young. So they had like a long distance friendship.
My dad worked in Sydney. So there was only times that I could see him.
It wasn't like very frequent, and he's a great dad.

Speaker 4 But when I was young, there was a lot of stuff that I missed in that connection.

Speaker 4 So I feel now I look for emotionally unavailable men because I'm trying to like prove to myself that I can make them stay. Yeah, because I felt when I was young, I didn't have that.

Speaker 4 You know what I mean? Dad didn't choose that. And I love my dad.
We get along great now. And it's like he was the best dad he could be.
But I feel like that really did something.

Speaker 1 It is crazy how that did something. It did.
It did.

Speaker 1 did something.

Speaker 4 And also, my mom has bipolar and her emotions are very, so when I was young, I was always trying to overread her emotions.

Speaker 4 So now when I'm in a relationship, I'm always like reading into things and like catering to people's emotional needs.

Speaker 1 But that makes sense.

Speaker 1 That must be very difficult.

Speaker 1 I can imagine. I know very little about bipolar except the fact that it's incredibly difficult for the person suffering from it and obviously the people and family members.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But I can understand why you have an exceptional exceptional empathy for

Speaker 1 people acting out of pocket. Yeah.
Maybe a little bit. An emotional

Speaker 1 fluctuation.

Speaker 4 I'm like, oh, I've seen this before. This is fine.

Speaker 4 My mom's like this.

Speaker 1 This is normal. Yeah, I know.
I grew up with this. I'm comfortable with this.
I know this.

Speaker 4 And my mom's like, get away from them. And I'm like, yeah, true.

Speaker 1 If they're like you, like, I get it. She's amazing.

Speaker 4 But she's like, that's not okay. You shouldn't be with people like that.
But I'm like, used to that. So it's a little hard.
But I'm very aware is the part of it.

Speaker 1 You are are very aware. But I'm really bad at applying that awareness.
Unless you're in it. Yeah.
When I'm in it, I'm blind. I'm like,

Speaker 1 you can DM us. I don't know if you have my number.
You can text Natalie or whatever. Just be like, hey, a guy just said this to me.
Like, just wondering if

Speaker 1 told me I was a loser five minutes later, doesn't know why I said that. Like, is that normal behavior? And I'll be like, get out, run.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But wait, just take your shirt off.
wait he is kind of actually looking really great hold on i'll text you back in a minute but he's taking me to lunch so i'll get back to you after this

Speaker 1 it was very nice it was really sweet

Speaker 4 yeah i probably will do that i'll take you up on that okay so battle camp yes really fun yeah well you almost won how did you feel about your best friend lorenzo uh winning when when you had the odds in your favor honestly so happy like it was i voted for lorenzo i also have won a netflix show so i was kind of like i'm here for the ride you know i'm just gonna see how far i can go you didn't need the money never thought i mean like everyone everyone needs money i would have loved 250k like i would be like thank you so much i could have done a lot with that but i think lorenzo was the most deserving plus lorenzo can do so much more with it than me i feel like he's you know been on one show hasn't really had his time to like pop into things yet and like start a brand start a life you know work so i feel like this is going to change his life so much.

Speaker 4 And he's so amazing. And he really, like, me and him were very similar in the show.
I feel like we were very, like, neck and neck at a lot of stuff, but he outdid everyone.

Speaker 4 So, he was the most deserving physically, mentally, emotionally, and also biased. Like, he was my best friend.

Speaker 1 What was the challenge you were most afraid of doing?

Speaker 4 I mean, going into it, I didn't know it would be this bad, but the submerged one, they make it look so much more chill than it was. Like, we were in that ice bath thing for hours.

Speaker 4 like they were doing so they wouldn't tell you how long you're sitting in there it was just like a battle of your mental strength so you're sitting there for like six minutes 10 minutes in and out like all day and none of us are like tapping out we're all like no we've come so far this is like horrible we have to win so they like changed the last round to be you had to hold your head under the water in the ice and they don't show how bad it was but like it was bad like i was like force drowning myself pretty much like my body was like seizing and i like breathed water in my mouth and i'm like fighting because i could hear but like just to be clear you were always safe we were always safe we had heart monitors on there was like a med team on the side like we were safe it was controlled but you were pushing really traumatizing bodily limits yeah and i i could feel that but i was like really competitive have you taken an ice bath since no okay you did win the first time you did it though Yes.

Speaker 4 Yes, I did. I won.
So it was worth the trauma. But like, they made me do it again in the final.
And I was like, you guys are so mean for this because I was like crying after.

Speaker 4 I was like having nightmares about it. It was horrible.

Speaker 1 Did you go to sleep away camp?

Speaker 4 What sleepaway camp? Is that an American thing?

Speaker 4 Like the kids send their parents send their kids off and they're like hi.

Speaker 1 No, we don't do that in Australia.

Speaker 4 The parents actually love their kids.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm kidding.
That's cute. Or they're cute.
Too poor. We were too poor.

Speaker 4 Oh, okay.

Speaker 4 Is that an expensive thing?

Speaker 1 I never went either at all. Getting someone else to take care of your kid?

Speaker 4 Is it like a summer camp thing? Yeah. Oh, that's so fun, though.
That would be cool.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, I guess a cheap version of sending your kids away to have someone else watch them for a period of time overnight.

Speaker 4 But, like, what a cool thing. Like, as a parent, you're just like, bye, and you just get your life back for a little.

Speaker 1 Maybe like these days, I wouldn't do it. I did go to one.
I think it was only like a week.

Speaker 1 Like, I don't think it was that long, but I remember I called my mom every single, like, constantly, and she was like, honey, stop calling me you

Speaker 1 make some friends leave me alone i am busy mom's having fun

Speaker 1 so good i love that i was like can i call my mom again like seriously like you gotta stop

Speaker 3 who do you think brought the most drama because to me like tony was overreacting Brian Louie, to me, looked like a showmance.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that was really cute. I love Brian Louie.
They were cute. But the drama, they weren't dramatic.

Speaker 4 I feel like Tony was the most dramatic they cut a lot of that out like he's very way more dramatic than that like was his exit more confusing in person okay

Speaker 1 yeah yeah no can you elaborate i don't know if i can but i would love to

Speaker 4 but no he got he got a great edit

Speaker 1 tony

Speaker 4 love tony love tony who do you love tony who don't you love i didn't bond that great with probably morgan i feel like she was a different kind of personality than me and i'm not good with people that are like a little more introvert.

Speaker 4 I take it like the wrong way. I'm like, they don't like me.
But I also feel like she didn't like me. So it was on point.
Like, we ended up voting for each other. I didn't vibe with her that much.

Speaker 4 Outside the show, she's really sweet.

Speaker 1 Spell ecstasy fun. Oh, my gosh.

Speaker 4 So I am a really good speller.

Speaker 1 I'm terrified. I am already going EX, unfortunately.

Speaker 4 That's what everyone said they would do.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 4 So to be clear, S-T-A-S-Y. I know that.

Speaker 1 On the spot.

Speaker 1 Say it again. Spell it again.
Spell it again. Spell it again.
I spelled it wrong.

Speaker 1 You spelled it wrong on here?

Speaker 1 You spelled it wrong. Ha ha.

Speaker 4 It's hard. That's right.

Speaker 1 I'm just. I'm so sorry.

Speaker 4 I spelled it wrong.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they wrote it wrong.

Speaker 1 See?

Speaker 4 That's how I spelled it because in your head, this is one of those words when you're visualizing it. You've already put a C in the front.
You've already put a S.

Speaker 1 Did you go like...

Speaker 4 No, well, I was too scared because I'm falling off this thing. So I was originally going to write on my hand, but then I couldn't.
I'm holding on for like dear life.

Speaker 4 I already put in a C and an S, and I'm like, which is the last one? Is it C-Y-S-Y?

Speaker 4 As soon as I said it, I was like, no, no, no, it's S-Y. And they're like, done.
No, you've said it. It's locked in.

Speaker 1 One of my absolute favorite things to watch

Speaker 1 are like high school spelling bees. Just spelling B's in general, I guess.
It's awesome. Yeah.
I think maybe because like you spell restaurant,

Speaker 4 that's easy.

Speaker 1 R-E-S. You think restaurant's easy?

Speaker 4 T-A-U-R-A-N-T.

Speaker 4 Toront restaurant. Toront.

Speaker 1 Toront.

Speaker 1 You know them. You love them.
Toront.

Speaker 1 The intensity.

Speaker 1 I'm just being a nerd now.

Speaker 1 Can we move on to the other one? Can I have it in a sanctuary?

Speaker 4 That one I'm going to give to you.

Speaker 1 I can't spell. Nick, just like the joke.
I can't read. Wait, see, this is my issue.

Speaker 4 I can't visualize things. I need to write it down.
If I had a pen and paper, it would have slayed. But like me and the mind, I'm like, my brain was not working like that.

Speaker 4 And also, I have a fear of heights. Polly went before me.
She got her word wrong. They launched her so far in the sky.
She landed on her face on the beanbag and she's like swollen.

Speaker 4 And then they're like, Georgia, you're up. And I'm like, no, I hate heights.
I'm so scared. So I'm like begging them to like, if I get it wrong, only use one man.
Don't use two men to launch me.

Speaker 4 Like, I'm scared.

Speaker 1 Was there any word in your head that you were like, please don't ask me?

Speaker 4 At that point, probably just everything. I was so scared.
I'm like, I don't know.

Speaker 1 I like my own name.

Speaker 4 The first word they they gave me was swimmer, and I was like, oh, easy, slay. And then the next one's like ecstasy.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, okay, well, I know this word. What do you think the hardest four-letter word is to spell? What is this, Wordle?

Speaker 1 Me off the top of my head. Can you spell fo? Fo.
Uh-huh. P-H-O.
Oh. Can you spell chic?

Speaker 4 I'm like scared. Don't ask me anything, Lee.

Speaker 1 No, how do you spell S-H-E-C-K? No, not the sound out. It's almost like stylish.

Speaker 1 I'm like, she's like, oh, wait, that's delusional.

Speaker 1 Like stylish.

Speaker 4 I love how you didn't just go for the voice note because that was so crazy to spell it out.

Speaker 1 Sometimes if you read our text, I sound like the one who's 18 years younger, who's in school still.

Speaker 1 You're like, hey, mom, how do you spell that? I wouldn't expect that from you.

Speaker 4 Recess.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't expect that from you.

Speaker 4 I feel like it's a... It's just a brain thing.
Like, you just forget sometimes.

Speaker 1 He texts me all the time being like, how do you spell this? My brain is

Speaker 1 very good at some things.

Speaker 4 And really shit at others. Me, too.

Speaker 1 It's just like, you know, that's messy. He uses all that energy for the good stuff.

Speaker 1 Wait, so what word were you thinking? The hardest for letters. I don't know.
I just

Speaker 1 feel sure it's out there. He's like, I don't think there is a F-A-U-X, by the way.
Oh, fuck. F-A-U-X.

Speaker 1 It's like faux fur. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. Not real.
I think he meant f-f-o-c. That's three.

Speaker 4 I'm saying hi to this one.

Speaker 1 He's way too smart for us. We've got to get him out of here.
Yeah, my brain.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Are you watching anything these days? Are you enjoying anything as a fan?

Speaker 4 Love Black Mirror. That's not really reality, though, but I've been loving Battle Camp, honestly.
I know that sounds stupid because I'm on it, but I've watched it. You're a narcissist.
Yes.

Speaker 4 So I love myself a lot.

Speaker 1 Actually,

Speaker 4 just the first show that I'm like.

Speaker 4 actually able to watch of mine that I'm not like cringing on repeat and I'm like I get that this is what I like missed out on because I was in the challenge and I didn't see these people doing that stuff now I'm watching them and I'm like wow I didn't know that happened so did I actually want to do like more challenge react like no

Speaker 4 like big brother I would be down for it like a social challenge kind of thing but like honestly battle camp was really hard like it was really hard I don't know how long I got the film like how long were y'all there like four weeks did you know going into it that heights were going to be so heavily involved they asked me they like alluded to like I was like so what kind of of challenges we're talking?

Speaker 4 Like, you know, swimming, maybe some like, what is that? zip lining. I was like, what kind of heights does that involve? They're like, nothing crazy.
I was like, okay, because I have a phobia.

Speaker 1 Like, it's not like perfect. We'll add heights to every single challenge we're talking about.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 And I'm like, no, it's not like a, like, I actually like have a full panic. I had a panic attack.
They cut it all out. But like, the last thing they were making me do.

Speaker 1 You do understand reality TV, right?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I know, but it's like, give me some of the, give me some of the credit. You know, you put me up there, like, make me look bad.
Like, I tried.

Speaker 1 tried what what black mirror episode do you think is the most realistic that you're afraid of happening oh well i definitely it's happening but what's it called nosedive the one that's like all about like likes and what people social media brett right dallas howard i love it i've seen more i haven't seen that one love you need to watch this pretty much like like social currency so it's like how people interact with you and they can see looking at you like how how liked you are how many stars you have what your grading is and then it's like people will not associate with you if your your ratings low.

Speaker 1 You can get it marked for like not doing nice things or like you won't be able to rent a car at a certain place or like you don't have a rent a rating.

Speaker 1 Oh my god, like, yeah, I would not have been able to make it this far.

Speaker 4 So you, everyone's like,

Speaker 4 and like, oh my God, and then you rate each other.

Speaker 1 It's like the key to my success. I like your shirt.
Do you want it? Yes.

Speaker 1 And then that gives you like a mark up. But if you didn't, like, they can be like, mark you down.

Speaker 4 They knock you down in front of you.

Speaker 1 Interesting. Cause I honestly feel like part of the key of my success is like just being completely oblivious to how people really feel about me.
And like, and then people kind of are like,

Speaker 1 I don't know how you show up in the world, the way people feel about you.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So, this is like, and then I get this a lot from people in Bachelor Nation, which is like, I wish I didn't care about people hating me like they hate you. That's just like a back heavy compliment.

Speaker 1 Dude, you're so good at ignoring everyone that fucking hates you and talks so much shit about you. You're like so good at ignoring.
You're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, people are talking shit about me.

Speaker 1 I wish it was more like you would just like not care that people hate you. You know?

Speaker 1 i recently signed a deal and i got a lot of dms from people being like man like that many more reasons to ignore the haters and i'm like what but we're haters

Speaker 4 that's hilarious what have you so funny because i low-key feel like i'm like a victim to that mentality i always thought that you're just like whatever but like you just don't realize i guess well no i mean like

Speaker 1 yeah you're you're just not that often i'm glad i honestly i didn't want to tell you i don't think you get hate, but I mean, like, the one few times I've seen, like, you're just so unbothered.

Speaker 1 I'm like, I love that. No, I don't care.
It's literally what you do.

Speaker 1 I just said that. Well, I don't look.
Well, I tell the people because they're just like, well, how do you do it? I'm like, I don't look. I care.
Yeah, out of sight of a murder. Of course I care.

Speaker 1 I'm a human being, but I don't go looking for it. I'm not looking.

Speaker 1 Hey, guys, what do y'all think about me? Yeah,

Speaker 1 on Reddit.

Speaker 1 I have reality TV stars who tell me they think it's fun to go on Reddit and read about themselves because it's like, ha ha ha ha ha. And I'm like, you cried yourself to sleep.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Reddit's like, don't go there. I don't have the app.
I'm like, I have self-control.

Speaker 1 Like, no one goes on there to compliment people.

Speaker 4 No, that shit is scary. That's scary.

Speaker 1 It's like how to make soups and talk shit.

Speaker 1 So true.

Speaker 1 That is true. Like, I came here for a recipe, but by the way, Georgia fucking sucks.

Speaker 1 I hate her fucking face.

Speaker 4 She's so annoying. I want her off this show.

Speaker 1 Anyways, the tortilla soup. And here's the recipe.

Speaker 1 Love you guys.

Speaker 4 That is so accurate.

Speaker 3 Going back to the plank situation, you said that you almost had a panic attack. Or because from our point, watching it back, it looked like more you were just trying to manipulate Chase.

Speaker 4 So there was a moment I switched that on because I was already crying. So I was like, I don't want to go off this plank.
This is like, I'm going to act my life out right now.

Speaker 4 And I was already crying, but I've walked out to the plank and I've seen that I'm on a safe one. And I'm like, I already have tears on my face.

Speaker 4 I need to kind of play into this so that he thinks I'm on a bad one. Otherwise, he's going to take my plank.

Speaker 4 So I, for a moment, put it on, but as soon as I looked at Chase, I was like, I'm going to laugh. Like, he's just so unserious.
I can't look at him and like be like acting like this.

Speaker 4 So yeah, I broke character. And yeah, I was very terrified, though.
The tears were real. And then I was like, I'm going to play into this for a bit, for a moment to manipulate Chase.
It didn't work.

Speaker 3 So I respected you.

Speaker 4 You were like, I'm good. I had to hustle because like, I didn't want to go off that thing.
That's my worst fear. I even like, you know, betrayed cutie.

Speaker 4 In all honesty, we like made a pact that we wouldn't, before we went on those planks, we were not going to like sell each other out.

Speaker 4 We're like, we're going to protect each other because we're so scared of heights.

Speaker 4 It all went out the window.

Speaker 4 Girl, every man for themselves. I'm not going off this plank.
And then I was like, going anyway. Like, cutie, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 Don't hate me.

Speaker 1 Sorry.

Speaker 4 I just had to do what I had.

Speaker 1 So what's next for you? Good question. I'm actually,

Speaker 4 I'm taking some acting classes off the back of this. I actually want to get a crazy thing.

Speaker 1 I know how to act.

Speaker 1 Turns out I'm a professional.

Speaker 4 Dates of one anyway.

Speaker 4 No, I actually really want to do acting. I did a short film a while ago and I found it really fun.
And now I want to see like if I can like tap into that a little bit more and like

Speaker 4 where it could take me. Like I Netflix is cool.
Like if you're cool with them, they have a lot of opportunities.

Speaker 4 If I took it seriously, I could see what would be there, you know, see if there's something they could put me in, maybe, yeah, maybe

Speaker 1 help, help me out.

Speaker 4 No, but like, I also want to try like hosting or something. I feel like also want to start a podcast.
So many things on my mind right now.

Speaker 1 I'm like, damn, what are I doing? What kind of podcast do you want to start?

Speaker 4 Like a dating one, I feel like an advice one. I have so much trauma that you guys know a little bit about, we've touched on, but I have a lot more.
And I feel like I really want to

Speaker 4 educate girls.

Speaker 1 Would you be willing to like talk about your escapades in a very honest and raw, like for real, yeah?

Speaker 4 I feel like I'll give all the tea.

Speaker 1 Interesting.

Speaker 4 In a way that, like, I'm not gonna get sued, but yeah, I'll give the tea.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just come up with, like, aliases, like, short king. And ping it.

Speaker 4 Yeah, literally. I feel like I could give enough, but not too much, you know? But yeah, it's a lot of stuff that people should know.

Speaker 1 They know a place. You do? Yeah.
NVPD.

Speaker 1 We can talk.

Speaker 4 Yes, I have a whole deck planned and stuff, so we should. You do have a deck.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 4 I'm taking

Speaker 1 do it.

Speaker 1 That is my number one requirement. Okay, perfect.

Speaker 1 And you're in.

Speaker 1 Like, if you want to get rich and actually work,

Speaker 1 we can talk.

Speaker 4 And I love talking and I love like meeting people and hearing stories and like relating to people and helping people. So I feel like it's something I should try.

Speaker 1 And you're living in New York? Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I love it. New York's great.

Speaker 1 Favorite New York story you've experienced since you've been there? Oh,

Speaker 1 wow.

Speaker 4 Oh, so many crazy ones. I'm trying to filter out the ones I I probably can't say.

Speaker 1 Imagine this is your first episode of your podcast.

Speaker 4 I don't really know. Honestly,

Speaker 1 this is sad. This is like sad because when I moved there, I was like there for a year.

Speaker 4 I didn't experience anything. I was kind of like on house arrest with this relationship that I was in.
So I didn't do anything. I was like boring.
Now that I'm like.

Speaker 4 single and like experiencing things, I'm like out and like having fun, but didn't have fun for a long time. It was just work, film the show, boring.

Speaker 4 Like I don't really, I don't really have any crazy stories yet. I need to make crazy stories.
Okay. Yeah.
I know that's so boring. I'm trying to think, you know what's annoying?

Speaker 4 I'll leave here and I'll have the best story.

Speaker 1 I can't think of it right now. Okay.
That's okay. It's okay.
Do you have a favorite restaurant or a favorite like? Oh, yes. Yeah.
Can we get a rec? I'll tell you mine if you tell me yours.

Speaker 4 Tell me yours first. Okay.

Speaker 1 The American Bar.

Speaker 4 I've not been there.

Speaker 1 Oh my God. The American Bar.
Go on Thursdays. Maybe meet.
That's good. Okay, go on Thursdays.
They have a special of bourbon chicken.

Speaker 4 Whereabouts is this?

Speaker 1 West Village.

Speaker 4 Oh, my God. Love West Village.
Okay, I'm going to go.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, you've definitely. It's so good.
They have an amazing martini.

Speaker 1 They have an amazing Greek chopped salad. And they have an amazing bourbon chicken.

Speaker 1 Okay, I'm going to tell you. I loves their bourbon chicken so much.
We have flown to New York on a Thursday just to get the bourbon chicken. We've needed like a chicken.

Speaker 1 We need to get there earlier so we can get there in time to have dinner at American Bar for the bourbon chicken. That's pretty good.

Speaker 1 And every time I'm there and I'm like, please make this a staple on your menu. Like, please take it off of Thursdays.
Oh my God, I'm going to try.

Speaker 4 Okay, that sounds amazing.

Speaker 1 Okay, what's yours?

Speaker 4 I like French food. So I like

Speaker 4 pasteo, I think it's called.

Speaker 1 I'm probably pronouncing it wrong.

Speaker 4 That's it.

Speaker 1 That's it.

Speaker 1 Okay, that one. That's it.

Speaker 4 I get everything. I like

Speaker 4 the chicken, the chicken pie thing that they have. They have a really good French onion soup.
That's my favorite.

Speaker 1 They have a really good burger.

Speaker 4 That I haven't tried. I probably need to try that.
But yeah, I love French food, so I'm down.

Speaker 1 Are they French fries? Your favorite?

Speaker 1 I'm like thinking of like, ooh, yeah, big.

Speaker 4 You know, their iced tea is really nice.

Speaker 1 Everything basic.

Speaker 4 No. French onion soup is really good.

Speaker 1 I'm a big fan of it.

Speaker 4 It's really French. It's French.
And it has like a good layer of cheese and stuff. So

Speaker 1 is it actually French? Is that why it's called French onion soup?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I guess. Like the onion or maybe fries, the actual onion is French, and that's why it's called French fries.

Speaker 1 Or is it Frenchies because that's the brand?

Speaker 4 Is it French because the onions are from France?

Speaker 3 According to the internet, French onion soup is indeed from France.

Speaker 1 Yeah, not French fries. It was invented by none other than King Louis.
King Louis? King Louis. Wow, they're quick on the fact

Speaker 1 14th. The 14th? Katie Louis.

Speaker 1 XV Roman Rose is making XB.

Speaker 1 Louis is getting into the soup. He's like watering soup.
You think he was on Reddit? He was like, hey guys,

Speaker 1 he's like, he's on street residue.

Speaker 4 It's just been stolen.

Speaker 4 Love that.

Speaker 1 Love Louis for that. Love Louis for that.

Speaker 1 I've got since medieval times.

Speaker 1 Never had that.

Speaker 4 Medieval times is crazy.

Speaker 1 It's a favorite. You wouldn't like French onion soup, I don't think.
That's why I've never tried it.

Speaker 4 You know, I'm not even an onion fan, but it's so good.

Speaker 1 It's just like all the cheese on top. Hey, that's my pot.
That's the best part. That's my pot.

Speaker 4 When you pull it, it's like...

Speaker 1 Stretching.

Speaker 4 I'm like, damn.

Speaker 1 Do you like a mozzarella stick? Love.

Speaker 4 But I want it to be like that. It's got to to have to dry when I get it.

Speaker 1 Instead of like taking it and then all the chips falls out and it's just like

Speaker 1 you just get the whole open of cream.

Speaker 1 What's it called? Ruby Rosa? Ruby Rosa.

Speaker 1 No, what's it? Really good mozzarella sticks. Ruby Rosa?

Speaker 1 Okay, I'm going. Really good pizza and mozzarella sticks.
Yum.

Speaker 4 You guys have the regs. All right.

Speaker 1 You need to see it. Where do you go? Just like.
I like rubies.

Speaker 1 Ruby's.

Speaker 4 It's an Australian-owned place in New York.

Speaker 1 It's really good.

Speaker 4 The food is insanely good. Little Ruby's Cafe.
They just opened one near where I live in Williamsburg and it's amazing.

Speaker 1 That's where we met. Yeah.

Speaker 4 What was that?

Speaker 1 We met in Williamsburg. You met there? Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 We talked about killing each other. Wait,

Speaker 4 there's so many people. I get that five there.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 4 No, that's so funny. I love Williamsburg.

Speaker 1 It's great. It's really cute.

Speaker 4 It's really cute. But yeah, Ruby's is amazing.

Speaker 1 Okay. It's good food.
It's good to see you, Georgia.

Speaker 4 I know. It's so good to see you.
It's so nice to finally meet you. I had so much fun.
I feel like we've, did we meet before this or no?

Speaker 1 No. I don't think I feel like you're in the middle.
I think I just know you because I've watched so much much after something.

Speaker 4 Yes, we spoke. Yeah.
That's it. And we were like meeting to hang out.

Speaker 4 Then I fled the scene. You fled the scene.
Yeah. Left.

Speaker 1 Left and chat. I left this whole place.

Speaker 1 I got pregnant. You were like, fuck this best.
No, you're.

Speaker 4 That's all more of a reason for me to be like, hang out with me. I used to be a midwife.
Like, I love that shit.

Speaker 1 You used to be a midwife? Yes. Do you want to pull out a bunch of people? I swear I told you this.
When you say,

Speaker 1 so, like, you were just delivering babies? Yep.

Speaker 4 I literally filmed To Out to Handle season three,

Speaker 4 then went back to normal life, went back to a hospital job, delivering babies, like three babies one night sometimes.

Speaker 4 Literally, no one.

Speaker 1 Why don't people, why don't more people know?

Speaker 4 I know, because it's not hot, right?

Speaker 1 Like, they want you to be like too hot to handle.

Speaker 4 That's like not that hot.

Speaker 1 It's kind of hot.

Speaker 4 I feel like it's like, it's fun. It's great.

Speaker 1 Hot, I don't know. It's kind of gross.

Speaker 4 It makes you very, like, it's amazing, but it's like.

Speaker 1 It makes you very unique in a group of people.

Speaker 1 Let's, let's, you know, like reality TV stars, it's a melting pot of various backgrounds intelligence and and and things like that but like there's not a ton of people in the reality tv space who like who have something really going for them other than their face yes i think that's what they like to come across as as well so like when i met them the production they were like you were a you're a midwife they're like I don't think anyone here has ever studied like anyone else on the cast.

Speaker 4 I was like, really?

Speaker 1 No one's read a book.

Speaker 4 They're like, wait, you're the first person with a degree? Like, that's crazy. I was like, yeah.

Speaker 1 No, that's very cool, though. It is

Speaker 4 honestly the best thing I've ever done. Like, it's amazing.

Speaker 1 Do you, if I were to like give birth right here, right now, would you know exactly what to do? Would you be like, no, exactly.

Speaker 4 I delivered a baby in a car park once. It was amazing.
I was literally about to leave my shift. And then they were like, I had my bag and everything.

Speaker 4 And they're like, do you want to deliver a baby in the car park? And I was like, are you serious? Yes. And we were just like run down the hallway with an emergency like delivery kit.
Got outside.

Speaker 4 She's like in the car giving birth. I'm like catching the baby.
You're so amazing.

Speaker 4 It was so sick.

Speaker 1 That's pretty cool. Yep.

Speaker 4 It was the sickest. I have so many cool stories about that.

Speaker 1 Not only is she stunning, but she can deliver babies and she can spell ecstasy

Speaker 1 and restaurants.

Speaker 4 Yes.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 1 Love that coming. And restaurant restaurant.
Your podcast will be called Birthing Problems.

Speaker 4 That's a good name. Wait, that's a good name.

Speaker 1 Like dating problems? I don't know.

Speaker 1 Birthing problems.

Speaker 1 We can workshop it.

Speaker 4 People just think I'm like giving birth everybody.

Speaker 1 Birthing problems. It's Georgia.
What's your problem?

Speaker 1 Me just talking to people in the hospital. Having a baby.

Speaker 1 Wrong number to arrive.

Speaker 1 That could be fun. Well, this has been so much fun.

Speaker 1 This was so fun.

Speaker 4 Oh, my God. I love you guys.
We're going to hang out before I go.

Speaker 1 You're going to stagecoach?

Speaker 4 No, I'm not going to stagecoach. I kind of wish I was.
Are you going? Yeah.

Speaker 1 You should be. We're just going for Friday night.

Speaker 4 You should come. I messed up because I went to Coachella and then I flew back to New York and I dumped all my outfits and stuff off.
And then I've come here for work.

Speaker 4 And and I'm like, I should have just gone to stagecoach.

Speaker 1 Everyone's going.

Speaker 4 Maybe I'll change my mind and come.

Speaker 1 You should come. Yeah.
I'm sure you'll find it.

Speaker 4 Lana Dell raised me. That's what I'm doing.
That's going to be literally. I need to see that.

Speaker 1 You do. You can find a pair of cowboy boots somewhere.

Speaker 4 Yeah. I'll just rent something or like

Speaker 4 go to the, yeah.

Speaker 1 I'll find something.

Speaker 4 Go dumpster driving.

Speaker 1 I'll find something.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I kind of think I should stay here for a while. It's fun.

Speaker 1 I'm having a good time. Do you miss LA at all?

Speaker 4 I do, but I'm like, is that just my brain playing games on me because I'm just visiting and getting the good part of it and like seeing people lightly? Yeah. Would I love to live back here?

Speaker 4 I don't know. I really like the life of New York.
It's cool.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't think you would. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I want to see like different stuff, meet new people all the time. New York's like that.
Here, it's like, I'm going to the same place as the same people, getting bored of that, you know?

Speaker 1 That is very true. There are

Speaker 1 people everywhere you go.

Speaker 4 And New York, any night I go out, I meet, everyone I see is new. I don't ever see the same people.
Wow. Everyone's cool.

Speaker 1 cool wow where can they follow you find you on social on instagram and tick tock mainly and snapchat

Speaker 1 you're snapchatting still well i am i'm getting into it you know it's not my it's not my vibe that you that's where all the fun

Speaker 1 you were doing two for a chat

Speaker 1 how many how many times are you posting it

Speaker 4 you gotta post around like 60.

Speaker 1 60. Yep.
I tried that for like.

Speaker 4 I did it for a week. I was great.
Now I'm shitty.

Speaker 1 So I need to figure that back up.

Speaker 4 But you know, it's it's better than you know, posting on Instagram stories and not going anywhere. You could be doing television.

Speaker 4 You'll be making money off it.

Speaker 1 So you're going to be doing it. And you can find me on Snapchat as well.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 And it's, yep, yeah, exactly. We're going to have a dual account.

Speaker 1 Yeah. A linked account.
We'll do a dual account. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 For our days.

Speaker 1 All right, Georgia. Great seeing you.

Speaker 4 Great to see you guys. That's so much fun.

Speaker 1 Bye. Well, that'll do it for our show today.
We're pretty sure we're back tomorrow for a very special going deeper. So hopefully we'll see you you tomorrow.
Bye.