E924 - Georgia Hassarati, Kelsey Anderson, 1yr Anniversary, Stagecoach, Dorit’s Divorce, and Jojo’s Breakup

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What's going on, everybody?

Welcome back to another exciting episode of the Vow Files Reality Recap Edition. And we got one year of marriage in books.
We did it. It was hard.
I didn't think we were going to make it. We did say next year.
We were like, next year, our captions will be jokey. We went heavy.
We went heavy and serious and sentimental. So much love.
Honestly, the night before. Honestly, after our second post, we were both kind of disgusted with each other's love.
It was just like, ugh, God, get over yourselves. But the truth behind it is that Nick was like, do you want to have a competition? And I was like, oh, with what? And he was like, who can, because we got massages, but we had to go one at a time.
So he was like, while the other person's in the massage, let's see who can make the best anniversary post. Who can win the anniversary post competition? Who can find the best photos? Who can write the best caption? It was a competition.
Who do you think won? First, I want to know who went first. I went first.
Nick went first. Of course.
Natalie's was a black and white photo first. Natalie definitely was always going to win the photo department because she's better at curating said photos.
And she is more just generally present and mindful about those things in general and saves them. I spent more time on the message.
And then I kind of whipped through my photo book. And I was like, these are fine.
I went through my favorites. You're like, this is literary.

He's a poet. You're a poet.

He's a poet.

It was grammatically correct and spelled correctly.

Some of it.

I mean, what I read.

I saw a couple.

I tried.

There were some spelling mistakes.

There's some spacing.

I was sweating in an infrared sauna while writing that,

and I may or may not have also just been very chilled and very relaxed.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Picking up what you're putting down.

Who do y'all think won?

Who had the most comments?

I think Natalie won the photo department.

And I think Nick won the caption department.

So we're both winners.

Yeah.

We were both winners.

I said after we left, I said, so who do you think won the Instagram war? And Nick goes war? This was just like a fun Friendly little like challenge I believe they say All is fair in love and war They do It was a very fun Very enjoyable Anniversary weekend But it was like It was It was interesting Because you don't really know Mad't really know all right okay haven't heard this word yet you didn't feel a lot of like almost in a way self self-induced pressure for your anniversary it's like it's your first wedding anniversary it's like we've you've had it like i'm old enough to know that birthdays aren't that big of a deal, you know, to not get that excited about like my birthday.

Yeah.

Because I have my wife's birthday to worry about these days.

Exactly.

And I have now Mother's Day and Father. Well, I don't have Father's Day, but like, you know, and the Mother's Day is like two weeks away.
Valentine's Day. You got Valentine's Day.
You know what I'm saying? But your first wedding anniversary, you know, you want to, it's that balance between doing what you enjoy the most, but making sure that you are making this weekend or day feel meaningful, feel unique. And I think there was a mix of us figuring out what that was in real time.
I feel like you guys did a lot this weekend. We did.
We went to Stagecoach on Friday. We met with our friends Tyler and Tate and spent time with them at Stagecoach.
And then it got like really windy and cold and we saw Lana which was great and we saw George Burge who's joining us on Wednesday came out and performed live with Lana that was very cool and we saw Zach Warren again which like I know like you know bad boyfriend good musician. Did you see Mom Talk? At Stagecoach we did not.
They were all over But like, you know, it's one of those things like Stagecoach, Coachella, same thing, festival, like it's fun, but incredibly like inconvenient. It got incredibly cold.
Like it's a lot of things where you just have to be like, we're having fun, we're having fun while you're freezing the whole time being like, we chose to do this on our anniversary. You know, like, you know what I'm saying? Which also, I find it very confusing that they rearrange the festival every year.
We weren't there last year? Yeah, the last time we went, they've rearranged it. So I just memorized where everything was, and I get there, and it's like, nope, jumbled it up.
Try to figure out where your station is now. Stagecoach, if you're listening, we don't like the new layout.
If you care what we think, we're just saying, you know, the two years ago, the layout, much better. That happened to my Trader Joe's recently.
It's really upsetting. It's frustrating.
You just memorized where everything is. Is it the same as Coachella's setup? It was two years ago.
I honestly don't. Different this time.
So main stage, different place. I don't know.
Don't even want to get into it. It's not really the point.
Then we came back. We woke up Saturday morning in the desert, bright and sunny.
Hot. People were laying out by the pool at 8am.
Natalie did a lot of planning. Natalie did more planning for our anniversary than I did.
I just want to give my wife credit. Wait, have you seen the TikTok trend that it's like, I'm Sierra and I've made the plans.
I'm Nick. I'm Natalie.
I'm Nick. I'm Natalie and I've got the rings for our anniversary.
would be like, I'm Natalie and I, I'm Nick, I'm Natalie and I got the rings for our anniversary. I'm Nick and I, I'm Natalie and I drove everywhere this weekend.
That's what it sounds like. I'm Nick, I'm Nick and I got high.
Anyways, yeah, so we left sunny Palm Springs Saturday morning. And Natalie did not know this at the time, but when Natalie made our anniversary plans, she, in her mind, had a vision of sweating her ass off in a bikini poolside getting sun.
Ooh, yeah. Sounds like a fun weekend.
Doesn't that scream anniversary? It screams honeymoon. It screams anniversary.
It screams, like, vacation. It was a really good vacation.
I felt it. But then we woke up and had to leave the desert based on the plans that my wife and our party planning person planned for us.
Turns out the weather in LA, even though two and a half hours away from Palm Spring, different. Oh my God.
The pouring rain. The freezing and pouring rain.
So Natalie is in her mind thinking, this is not what I planned. This is not what I planned.
This is not what I planned. This is not what I planned.
And then- I had to recalibrate my wife's mood. As we're driving home, we're driving in the rain.
We're like, oh, like how crazy would it be if like the place we're staying at was like sold out of massages

for the weekend.

Like that would be crazy.

And then we're like, hmm, maybe we should call and book one.

So Nick calls and they're like sold out.

Sorry, we have some like Monday afternoon.

We're like, oh, not going to work.

And honestly, our old reason for going is just to get rubbed on.

Yeah.

We love a massage.

Okay.

I would say you were happy.

A professional one. Yes.
Professionally rub one on. No, like's neat.
I would say you were happy. A professional one.

Yes.

Professionally rub one on.

No, like, Jesse Solomon.

No, Jesse Solomon.

37 minutes in a room.

No, no, no.

Like, his porn search or whatever it was.

He loves a good massage.

Oh, no tan lines.

No, that was Carl.

No, that was Carl.

And I gotta say, I just want to stand up for Carl here.

I just, like, look.

He's honest.

Well, it's also niche, but what, like.

You're into tan lines?

No, I'm just saying, why is Jesse and Kyle making fun of Carl's tan line when Jesse's

like, well,

I'm just saying why is Jesse and Kyle making fun of Carl's tan line when Jesse's like well I like massage porn. I feel like massage porn is a little bit weirder than like a girl with some tan line.
Yeah Like what what fantasy Jesse are you trying to like or invoke? Did you ask for a foot massage and that's how the toe ended up in her mouth?

Like you freak.

Yeah, I don't.

Anyways, so, so they're sold out of massages.

So I'm in a bad mood

because it's pouring rain

and there's no massages

for the weekend.

So I'm like, oh my God,

like the whole weekend

is just like,

it's ruined in my mind.

But then I stepped in

and I found another hotel

in Malibu

because that's where

we were staying

at a different hotel in Malibu.

And I'm like, hey,

do you guys have

some massages available?

And they're like, yes, we do.

Back to back.

Thank you. stepped in and I found another hotel in Malibu because that's where we were staying at a different hotel in Malibu and I'm like, hey, do you guys have some massages available? And they're like, yes, we do.
Back to back. Can't do couples, but we can do back to back.
I was like, great, we just want to be rubbed on inside. Which gave us room for our Instagram war.
Absolutely. Y'all are driving.
But then the place we were staying called us back and said, hey, something this opened up. Couples massage is available for you.
And it is an hour and a half after our singles massage.

And I was like,

book them all.

Let's just do them all.

Stop it.

I want to go.

Oh yeah.

I love that.

I just want to get rubbed down all day.

So we woke up.

Now I got a massage.

Well,

I poured my heart out on Instagram and had very few grammatical errors,

which I'm very proud of.

I am.

You should be.

Natalie went while I got massaged,

and then we scurried over to the place we were staying

and got a couple's massage.

Wow.

It was really great.

And then, but we were supposed to stay last night at this place,

and then we ended our staycation

because we wanted to see our daughter.

And it felt like we were wasting money.

Yeah.

You are like 45 minutes to work. Yeah, you would have had to wake up super early this morning.
Yeah. Well, that's what I meant when I started talking about the weekend, where it was just like, again, there's that balance between it's our first wedding anniversary.
We wanted to make it feel special and unique. Obviously, we're very busy.
We didn't have time to do some crazy trip. We did a staycation, which we don't really do do a lot of and we're also people who just really love being home you know and being comfortable so it's like this weird thing we went to a very beautiful place it was wonderful uh it was great uh but like it wasn't our house and our house is 45 minutes away so is our daughter and it's like i think it's you guys having a baby too that it's just kind of like how do you fully relax when you're like i could be home and doing this yeah it was like I'm watching the baby monitor as like my mom's trying to put her to sleep and I she's like kind of fighting it and crying and I'm like should we just go let's just go home right we should just put her to bed we'll be home in 45 minutes I can rock her I'll put her to bed everything's fine and so yeah we ended our staycation early and honestly we had a great time last night being at home with our.
I have a crazy story to tell y'all though. The other day I leave the studio.
Should we talk about our gifts first though? Oh sure. Yeah that's another thing.
No you can't do that. It was my idea.
You did it. The gifts or the leaving the studio? Gifts.
So alright. It's part of our anniversary.
Our anniversary is weeks away. And then I'm like fuck like fuck another fucking thing i have to get a fucking gift for it what's going on in my head you gotta make this part of your love language now truly he's got to it ain't changing it's got to so my sneaky ass was like i honestly think this is a really good idea okay because like i don't like what i'm supposed to buy you a fucking gift i'm like and then you buy me a gift on the anniversary and so we get stuff but it's your one year anniversary I know because I said let's do a gift together let's do a gift that we can share he acts like he's being sneaky like I knew what he was doing the whole time so we got matching rings so he was like what should we trip? And I was like, well, I already booked our staycation on my credit card.
So I feel like I've already given a gift to us. And he was like, yeah, no, but I paid for that too.
And I was like, well, not really because it was on my personal credit card. And so then he tried to take credit for that, which I wasn't allowing him to.
And so he's like, what if we did like, I don't know. I'm like, is there like a purse you want? Is there a purse you want to see me in? Are you dying to see me in like a new product? You want YSL from head to toe? So then finally I'm like, what if we found like a matching piece of jewelry? No, it was my idea.
Whatever. And so it's like we can do like bracelets, a necklace or ring.
So I reach out to my friend at Real Fine Studio. She owns this really cute like boutique fine jewelry.
I got my like signet ring for River, the little burrstone for River from her. I was like, do you have anything? She sent me these rings.
They have two diamonds on them, which immediately, as we all know, like things in twos have become very significant and special to us because of the miscarriages. So I was like, oh, that's so sweet.
Like it's kind of like both of our babies that we lost within the year, the first year of us being married. So I was like, let's engrave April 27th, 2024 on the inside of the band.
She's like, do you want to put River's birthstone in there? I'm like, no,

she happened before the marriage. We're gonna keep

this strictly first year of marriage. Love her.

She's a bastard.

No, yeah.

Which someone did

comment on our wedding video and be like, wearing

a full-length veil after fully birthing a child

seems ironic. I'm like, alright,

slut-shamer.

That's outrageous. Okay, so you hate fashion?

Sorry.

Sorry. But Thank you.
child seems ironic i'm like all right slut shamer that's outrageous okay so you hate fashion sorry sorry but anyway so we got these rings and they are they're very special and they're very beautiful and now we're matching yeah so beautiful so my crazy story um i'm leaving the studio and we're about to head off for this weekend of events so i was was like, I need to go to the grocery store and get like my mom and river fully stocked

for the weekend.

So I go to whole foods,

pushing the cart around in the produce.

I'm figuring out what like plan and all the rivers meals in my heads.

And then in my heads,

my multiple heads.

And then I go,

I go to the meats and I'm getting her some,

some meat.

And this man looks at me and he goes, excuse me, were you just over there?

And I was like, what?

Probably.

Yeah.

He's like, were you just over there with all the fruit?

And I was like, oh, yeah.

What did you do?

I was.

And he was like, I just sorry.

I just felt like every time I looked up, I only saw you.

And I was like, oh, he was like, sorry if that's weird. And I was like, no, it's crazy.
Because I'm not the only one in this store. Can I get a half a pound of beef? And so then I'm like, anyway, so I take my meat.
I go down the baby aisle. I get some diapers.
I get some snacks for River. And then I go down the next.
I'm literally, I'm going down each aisle, Right. And I go down the beans or whatever it is.
And he's coming down. And so I'm like, ha ha.
Hey, you know, like what a coincidence. See each other again.
How funny. And I keep it moving.
And he's like, as he's walking past me, he goes, next time I'm going to ask for your name. I was like, Jesus Christ.
So then I go down the next aisle. He follows me down that aisle.
And he's like, what a coincidence. Like, this is truly fate.
Oh, no. What does this guy look like? He is a short European, like, French man.
So accent. I would say.
An accent, yes. I can't do a French, so I won't be trying.
But he's like late 30s, early 40s, probably. Irrelevant regardless.
Irrelevant, but yes. Short little French man.
And so he's like what a coincidence this is such fate and i was like oh or you just like watched me go down this aisle and you followed me down here but sure and he goes what is your name i said natalie and then he goes to write in his calendar with an h i said no, no, not with an H. What? The American way.
He goes, and number? Like he was taking a reservation. Literally, like he's booking me.
And I go, oh, no, I'm married and I have children. He goes, what? You look way too young.
Sorry, you just look too young. And I was like, well, thank you.
But yeah, no. And so we keep going and he goes, next time, Natalie, with no H.
And I was like, there won't be one. I'm going to do different Whole Foods.
For sure. Thanks.
So then I'm like, I finish. I'm like, what is this fucking freak? So then I finish going around.
There's one aisle open and he's in the fucking checkout. And I'm like, nope.
I'm taking another lap. And it was just like the way that this man was trying to sell this as like, what a coincidence.
We're just, it's just such faith. Meanwhile, he's stalking you in the grocery store.
You're literally watching what aisle I go down and then following me and being like, oh. I like to think he's sitting at one end of the hallway going one,, two, three, okay, and runs down to the end of the aisle.
Is there a world, though, where, like, I mean, okay, let's say you set the stage, you're a single person, and there's a guy who tries this, clearly a move. There's no world in which you're charmed by it.
No. Oh, I would take it.
I feel like, especially grocery stores, I've had that happen in a Target, and you're just kind of like, I'm here running errands. You know what I think his flaw is? What? He was too confident at the point in which she asked for the number.
Because like, all right, let's... You know how everyone's always saying, I just want to meet someone at a grocery store.
What if this was just a guy who just wasn't paying attention to her ring finger or what's in her cart, whatever. And he thought she was cute and maybe he's just trying to make a move but like her version is like he's fucking stalking i'm just saying what if he just saw a person and then was thinking i gotta get i gotta get the guts i gotta build i gotta build up the courage to finally make the move so like by the time he did that he was like a number like he's done it a million times as opposed to like awkwardly being like all right the other five times i i chickened out but now I'm gonna finally like just be like hi and introduce myself he lacked a little bit of awkwardness and nervousness I feel like in his game it was less meet cute more more like I've done this 30 times more like I wanna sign you up for our subscription service and I'm gonna ask for your email next yeah it was very do you to become your own boss? Number.
Yeah. Yeah.

Very culty.

I'm just not into that.

No.

I'm like,

hit on me in a place where like,

not now,

but when I was single,

I'm like,

hit on me in a place where it would be expected.

Most likely I ran here with no makeup on.

I'm just trying to get some errands done.

I'm not looking for a date at 1230 PM in the afternoon.

I'm just not.

Speaking of date,

recently or not too recently, a few months ago, Travis Kelsey, Taylor Swift, Ryan Reynolds, and Blake Lively went out to dinner, and they seemed like friends. And this morning, I know we haven't really covered this story too much lately because it's still toxic and whatever.
Our position, ours is our position. But Travis Kelsey unfollowed Ryan Reynolds, according to TMZ.
Which is like a statement. Listen, it doesn't change.
Everyone everyone's gonna be like oh my god like you know maybe Travis Kelsey feels a certain way towards Ryan I don't know maybe like it doesn't seem like an accident the man Travis follows like 1300 people my big thing is like at this point like despite them doing a double date not too long ago despite the connection and friendship between Taylor Swift swift and and and blake lively and at this point the only thing that has been coming out is like you know friends of or speculation more or less rumors but like you know travis has his own massive show and podcast with his brother he's obviously a very public figure and he's like going out in the limelight like why at this point involved like now he's involving himself in a story that you would think he's got everything about that's coming out of like taylor swift camp has suggested that like you know who knows what's true or not but like she didn't appreciate being brought into this like messy conflict between justin and blake and then no one has mentioned travis no one's's name at all. I was not thinking about him in regards to this whatsoever.
Literally forgot he was even dating Taylor during this whole thing. Well, maybe that's the whole thing.
Maybe he was pressed. Maybe.
But doesn't it seem weird? Regardless of why he did it. He could have muted her.
He's the most famous famous like has been through this world knows every trick of the trade knows what's gonna get press what's not gonna get press like him unfollowing is going like he could have just been like you know what i don't want to see his stuff anymore like mute but no he wants to be part of the story which i find crazy it's it's it's up it he unfollowed Ryan Reynolds specifically so Ryan Reynolds still follows Travis Kelsey Travis Kelsey has like 1600 people that he's following so Blake Lively doesn't follow Travis Kelsey but that's like a separate but she may have never that was never part of the headline but it's just like he's being like roped into it now because you chose to like publicly for example, obviously, you guys know I've been very critical of James Kennedy since his arrest with Ali. Right.
Like and then when that came out, we came on the show and I had very I had very strong opinions about James and his character and things like that. The last thing I thought about in that moment was like, oh, I need to unfollow James Kennedy.
And so I followed him for, I think, time people did start to notice and then i was like yeah i shouldn't follow this guy and like i don't really want to follow but it just like wasn't top of mind you know what i'm saying it was more like oh yeah i guess so but like at this point like if it is like maybe travis feels a certain way about right about who knows i'm just saying like it is like no one asked for it no one was paying attention to it and that was a choice he made it just seems like almost a really weird petty move to insert yourself in a story that you see everything about their actions has been we don't want to be involved yeah honestly i don't know what's happening going on but like and again i you know it's just me like when i i'm in the position of my life right now where i can afford to be my friend's friends when they really need a friend that's kind of how i look at it you know especially when people are like you know when i feel like i can be the only one to have their back like i can take the shrapnel i can take the criticism you know like i'm good and it seems like everything about that's coming from taylor's camp is like i don't This is I don't I don't even I don't this is I don't really want to part I'm just too busy being you know era's tour like this is messy and I don't want this and I guess that's a choice I mean again and maybe she has a certain strong opinion uh it's just a weird move I don't know it's just why why Travis wants to be a part of the story by By doing something so trivial as to unfollow Instagram is a choice. It's a choice.
It also was a choice for you to say that my forehead was big and our Armani post. We listen and we don't judge.
You have an exceptionally small forehead, which is ironic since you have this fear of your forehead. I just had no real good digs that I could come up with.
So I just like, I went with the low hanging fruit, which is your obnoxiously large forehead. Nick was scrambling.
You were reading him to filth and he was just like, well, your forehead's big. I didn't think we were talking about real things that I annoyed you about.
He's like, that haircut was a good haircut. You loved it.
Would you rather a three you rather a three head no honestly i am i've gotten to a point now where like i think seeing river have my chin has made me love my chin you know because it's like and i've i've hated my chin my whole life and it's crazy because i got my chin from my mother and i know my mother used to always be like sorry honey like that was me, you know? And so I was bullied for it for a lot of years. And so like, finally, I got to a point where I look at my daughter and I see my chin and I'm like, no, wait, it looks so cute on her.
Like, I love it. I gave her that chin.
And I think that same thing about my forehead now. You've always had a great forehead.
But people were in the comments being like, oh, they're definitely fucking getting divorced. Wow.
Like Nick talked about her body parts. No, it's like the real fans always show up first.
Yeah. You're right or dies.
They're like, oh my God, we love you. Couple goals.
Oh, I love how you guys make fun of each other. Oh my God.
So silly, so funny. So silly, so funny.
And then the haters kind of show up. Be like,'s this you guys are fighting oh Trouble in Paradise so alright no that felt personal no there was oh no they hate each other yeah there was truth behind that pain yeah I'm like thank god for you somewhere it's someone in the middle of nowhere for clarifying that I I'm not happy here I guess and I'm not in my marriage.
I forgot that you sitting in your small town of Roanoke know what's going on at our home. Bad things happened in Roanoke.
Sorry. I've never been.
I hear it's lovely. I did take Justin to the Armani party a couple weeks ago.
I did. It did you feel like an employee or did you feel like my friend you did address me as a friend which is nice but then I also held your bag for the photo shoot so I mean I played both parts the photographer's like can you hold that or can you scoot out of the way I was like yeah no yeah for sure out of the shot.
But I enjoyed it.

I appreciated it.

How was the party?

It was a lot of fun.

Leslie Bibb was there.

Who else was, who played her first?

Brenda Song, Ally and AJ.

Star-studded cast.

Did you talk to anybody, Justin?

I did, yeah.

Bailey Madison was there.

Love her.

Yeah.

Bailey Madison.

And the whole time she started, she was like, Cece, Cece, yeah, Cece talks about you.

And I was like, who is Cece? And then eventually I was like, oh,c yeah cc talks about you and i was like who is cc and then eventually like oh sierra yeah should we be calling you cc no that's just like my nickname for what's always been my nickname since i was a kid but like uh caitlin her sister her daughters call me cc since they were little and so all the little kids can't say sierra obviously so we start off with cc and then it just sticks. Okay.
Yeah. It's a good event though.
It's one of those events

where they like pass around

like the food you can eat,

but it's literally

the size of a penny.

Hors d'oeuvres.

Yeah, but it's like

smaller than an hors d'oeuvres.

Tray passing.

Although the serving staff

are hot models.

Of course.

Of course.

Struggling actors.

Do you want a goat cheese

with balsamic on it?

They're like,

fuck yeah, I do.

Sure.

I didn't,

but now the way

that you said that.

Let me try it.

Well, speaking of eating, Gwyneth Paltrow is eating carbs and cheese again welcome back gwyn i don't know i'm kind of upset about it i'm like is this giving end to the world it's kind of good it's it's apocalyptic time if gwyneth paltrow is at the point in her life where she needs to eat carbs what hope is there i just think she hasn't had like a stomach ache in a while. And she was like, I need a little dare.

She's like, I've heard all about these hot girls with their hot tummy issues.

And I kind of want to be part of that.

Can I give a little update on my 2025 diet?

Oh, your water fast?

Well, it started with a water fast.

But I'm happy to report that I've been pretty good about like almost no sugar.

And I haven't worked out that much in the past six weeks.

And I've never been more...

Smelt?

Oh.

I'm just saying like...

Snatched.

I've had a couple cheat days.

I tried my mom's homemade chocolate with cookies.

I also, I crushed some Tic Tac Chewies

that are delicious

and I figured were more than worth it.

But other than a couple just moments,

like I've completely cut out like just like,

you know, like Arnold Palmer's.

I would go to like a restaurant and crush four Arnold Palmer's.'s you know how much sugar that is a lot a lot i haven't had a single chocolate croissant in 2025 no donuts no desserts no popsicles popsicles you know the problem was i i ended 2024 eating like i imagined i could eat when i was 12 when i became an adult you know like the way i imagined i when I can buy my own goddamn food, I'm gonna, you know what I'm saying? That's how I was, that's how I wrapped up 2024. I would eat dinner and then I'd crush a box of Cocoa Pebbles and I'd top it off with a popsicle.
That was nuts. And when it comes to bread, I'm mostly sourdough.
Nice. That's good for you.
Love sourdough. Gut healthy.
Yes. And I'm, again, I haven't run.
I haven't worked out and I've never been leaner and less puffy. I'm just saying if, you know.
One Gwyneth dies, you don't need Gwyneth. You just follow this guy.
Nick is the new Gwyneth Paltrow. You can even eat breads.
All I have changed is I've cut out the Arnold Palmers and desserts from my diet. What about coffee? Lots of fruit.
I'm back on coffee. Big time.
Big time. Inject that shit.
A lot of fruits at night. A lot of grapes have become my new candy.
Oh, those are good. Do you put them in the freezer? Frozen grapes.
Oh, frozen grapes are so good. Frozen mango.
A little bit of tajin. I don't need mango.
I will say, grapes have a lot of sugar in it, though, so you have to be careful. It's natural.
It's natural. Well, some of them are, if you're getting the cotton candy grapes.
Not those GMOs. No, I'm buying fruit.
Cotton candy grapes are technically fruit. It's the fruit they sell in the South.
They're not, like, injecting cotton candy. I'm just saying, all I'm...
What did you think that was? All I'm saying is, I'm not eating simple sugars. I'm proud of you.
Thank you, Sierra. I would never.
So I'm i'm very proud of you yeah we have a great episode lined up for you later this episode georgia hasarati returns the vile foul she's in the new hit netflix show battle camp which is now uh streaming and uh crushing it on netflix if you want to join but she returns spoiler alert uh lots of fun talking to georgia she's fun and a little messy. It's always really enjoyable.
And coming up shortly, Kelsey Anderson is coming solo. We didn't invite Joey.
No. I was like, you know what, Kelsey, she's out there.
She's making moves. She's potentially getting in fights at Coachella.
We don't know. So we said, Kelsey, come.
We don't want Joey. Well, Kelsey Anderson is joining us shortly, but before she does, let's talk a little Summer House.
This was a fun episode. It was a lot of fun.
Yeah. Schwartz! Schwartz was there.
Schwartz came. Schwartz is like the guy who's like, he's trying to find his Marvel show he wants to be on, you know? It's just like, which superhero iteration does he want to be a part of? And he's like, right now, just kind of the Bravo universe.
He's part of the multiverse right now. Yeah, which Spider-Man would Schwartz be? Is he Tom Holland? Is he Andrew Garfield? Is he Tobey Maguire? I don't know, but I kind of wanted to see him make a quick cameo on Love Hotel.
Yeah. He's Tobey Maguire because you'll just never forget him.
Exactly, yeah. And he's so cute.
And he always looks a version of 12. Sometimes a baby girl can be an adult man.
And he's one of those faces that you see and you're just like you know you just like immediately smile. You're like ah schwarzy.
He's always smiling. Even when he does like really bad things you're all like mmm.
Yeah you just want to like aww. Not a great episode for Jessie.
Fantastic episode for Lexi. Does Jessie still get his cancer pass after this episode? I know.
Dropped the cancer pass. Jessie, look what you've done.
I can't control what my idiot friends say. That was crazy.
God, yes you can. So you just want me to be a robot? Yeah.
Every line in the book. Every line.
Well, I was going to ask you to be my girlfriend at the end of the weekend. But no, I don't think so.
But now, after this. No, I mean, I know we met each other's parents, but.
It was like one after the other. It was the fuck boy playbook of excuses.
We were all just getting PTSD being like, oh, fired, shot fired. Lexi was good, though.
She held her ground. She did.
She said, robot, no, I never said that. A star is born.
She was incredible. I think anyone watching it, men, ladies, whatever, whoever you are, whoever you were dating, if you want to know how to handle yourself in conflict, especially in early stages of a situation ship of what this is, just look at Lexi.
Number one, most important trait important trait calm she remained incredibly calm when being faced with a different version of her reality which would trigger most of us yep she remained incredibly calm uh and then she articulated herself so fantastically uh in a way where she was like yeah i mean like i guess's a version, but here's like a different version of that story,

which made incredible sense.

Absolutely.

It was wild.

Because, you know,

it's a classic case where you hear Jessie's version

and you're like,

oh my God, yeah,

that is crazy to like,

early on you want to date someone,

but man, like two weeks in,

you're just like,

I'm demanding

they don't follow any women

on Instagram.

That seems a little hasty.

And then you hear Lexi's version

and she's like,

well, I don't know, maybe just not follow 15 new women since we've been like hanging out which is like no that's a totally different story like uh and when she was when he was like i can't control what my friends say or something like that and he was like she was like but your actions are making your friends feel icky that was an absolute mic drop yeah mic drop oh. Oh my God, when she hit him with the, yeah, like, wait, it's not your friends acting a certain way.
You're doing things. They feel a way about it and they're communicating it with me and it makes them feel icky, which is like nothing any man wants to hear from a lady.
And then for him to immediately throw all of his friends under the bus. Well, I guess I just like

trust my friends. Okay.

Jesse, be fucking

for real. At least he has West.

Yeah. West is in there and is like

But even West was like

But West was sitting on the bed with the two

of them kind of like feeding into it

too. He was like, dude, we were in the car

and he called her and then was like

alright, I'll call you in a bit. It's like we're gonna be there in an an hour.
That's what I said. I think he was up first trying to defend Jesse.
And then that's what he said. Yeah, he literally went, no, Jesse actually was on the phone and is actually needy.
And I'm like, he's the one creating all of this chaos because he's not ready to commit, but he needs to make it so if he bails at any time, everybody knows she was crazy. He very is interested.
He's very interested in the having a girlfriend. Yeah.
He's like the perks of a girlfriend. He's like, this is nice.
She's pretty. I get to hang out with her.
I get the emotional support constantly every day. I get to call this person whenever I'm bothered.
We also get to have some sex. It's a lot of fun.
And then all of a sudden she was like, hey, listen, great. Here's some requests I need for as a boyfriend.
He's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You can't do it.
I did not know that this went both ways. I can't talk to women.
This is crazy. What do you want me to do with my days? I can't flirt with my very hot friend, Sierra, all the time.
I just have to treat her like a human being. Are you kidding me? The way his brain couldn't process.
Sierra being like, fine, you want to throw me under the bus and act like I'm doing something to you? This is what it's like to not have me around. And then he's immediately like, Sierra's acting weird.
Sierra's being like really weird towards me. I don't know what's going on.
I do think she is acting weird. I don't think she's, I think she's playing into it too.
I'm just saying. Oh, sure.
I think my biggest issue with jesse is like he seems like a great guy like he seemed like a good person to be friends with but however i have an issue where like where a lot of men have this relationship with women that they are quote-unquote friends with but they are never friends with them they see them as a potent as potential are we talking about jesse or are we talking about uh jesse and sierra jesse and And it's like, you cannot actually be friends with a woman when your only interest in them is whether they may want to have sex with you. You know what the test is? This is real from a perspective of a man.
If Sierra were to get naked in front of Jessie, Jessie would not look away. Yeah.
You're not friends.

You know what I'm saying?

I would say crazy going.

Jesse wouldn't be like,

oh my God, I'm so sorry.

Let me get on.

Yeah.

My women friends

that are like straight

and I'm straight

and we hang out,

there could be another

universe or version

where like maybe we dated

and I'm like,

hey, we're just friends.

If I walked into a room

and like they are a close-up off, I'd be like, oh my God, I'm so sorry. Jesse would not.
Jesse would go, whoa! He would try to linger and keep talking, trying not to make the word. He'd be like, oh my God, great tits.
Yeah. Can you turn around really quick? It pisses me off because then it's like, he's going to be like, no, she's just my friend.
I'm like, no, you don't see her as a person. You see her as a potential, like, interest.
And that is all she is to you. It's like, it just, it really infuriates me.
Sorry to go back to the tan line porn, but I honestly thought that that was very wholesome of Carl. I did too.
I love Carl. You love Carl too much, though.
No, I just, I think he's made a lot of growth. And I think that just like, that's such a wholesome thing versus like incest or like.
Yeah, he wasn't like, oh, I want to see like fucking schoolgirl. It was definitely no less or more weird than massage porn from Jesse.
Or whatever the fuck Wes said. Wes is over here getting some subscriptions.
High quality. He's like, I can't even go back to normal porn.
Wes is like, let me give all my subcategories. But you know what? He's honest.
Yeah, that was- I agree, though, with you, though. I don't- In Wes.
Jesse and Wes are like, yeah, they're not- They're the fuckboy who someday is gonna be a husband. Mm-hmm.
We watched Lady and the Tramp last night with our daughter. Beautiful.
It is. It also holds up, by the way.
What a transition. Live action or animated? Animated.
Live action. Thank God.
No thanks. Thank what? Animated only.
We only show her movies from the 1920s. Yeah.
Hey, retro. Didn't it come out like 1930 or something? No.
55. Yeah.
55. It's really old.
All I knew is that it was really fun. 1955.
Yeah. That's crazy.
It's historically accurate. No, Lady and the Tramp.
There's a whole movie. like the tramp in's a whole like the tramp in the in the man the male dog is base they're slut shaming the male dog and the whole version of is like he's a dog and he's going to be a dog until like someone settles him down and honestly like that's West and Jesse which is like as much as we're talking shit on them as much as like west got his like basically he got crucified last season crucified jesse west did a little bit he said the dramatics no i love it i'm here for this they didn't stop them from them doing them you know what i'm saying because they can get away with it because like we we roll our eyes and criticize like shitty behaviors for men but at the end end of the day, like there always will be another lady

who's going to fall for their bullshit.

And until that stops happening,

they're just going to do them.

So it's our fault.

Yes.

No.

It's just like they're not going to stop.

The internet used a photo of the two of them

on the bed with their little legs crossed.

And they said,

this is who greets you in the situation ship gates of hell.

And it was Jesse and Wes.

Very, very true. Sarah, what do you think of Carl kind of hitting on Sierra? That was brutal.
Again, yeah, it hurts, but it was just, he's just so wholesome and he was like innocent and he was just like, maybe I'll shoot my shot. He was like, let me have a sit down conversation and just tell her how I feel and see what happens.
Carl is the type of man that I think Sierra should go for that she never will. Yeah, some people referred to him as like, I can't remember if it was in the show or like if it was outside, but they referred to him as the Mr.
Rogers of Summer House. And I was just like, it's so true.
But also like, Sierra would be an idiot to go for Carl because like Lindsay would literally. It just works.
Forget about Lindsay and whatever and dynamic and that probably was just like a show romance. But like, Carl is the type of guy that I think Sierra is not going for.
She should. That she should be going for.
Yeah. That like is willing to just, you know, that's not that Carl doesn't have his flaw.
The difference between Carl and Jesse is Carl sees Sierra as a person and is attracted to that person. And Jesse thinks she's hot and is purely going off of it.
Well, and Carl is willing to lead with hey i'm i'm into you yeah i have a crush where jesse wants to be like damn that leg's turning me on right now yeah or like you know just be like oh that was kind of a stupid joke no jesse is gonna like make fun of sierra for a while before he gives her any like attention and she's gonna eat that up sierra did react to carl saying I love Carl, but I was not expecting that. But I get it.

No, I'm just kidding.

And then she said,

she referred to the friendship as a special relationship

and revealed we did have

a lot of quality time this summer

and it was so great

to get to know him

in a different light.

So she's friendzoning him.

And they did have like

a little bit of chemistry

her first season.

I think it was season six

where it was just like,

we don't know where she's going to go.

But then she was talking to Luke.

So it was wasted.

And then Carl's brother passed and everything. But they had a had a very very very sweet relationship even from the start of meeting so I think it's like friendship yeah yeah well I'm very invested in the rest of Lexi and Jessie's relationship especially after Washie Lexi just absolutely dominated I mean it was really great and if I'm not invited to the next snooze fest I'm gonna ramp Summer House, can you send us the party full link? Can I put myself on a list, please? Thank you.
I'm also curious about Amanda's storyline the rest of the season because the reunion seating chart was released and she's first chair. So I'm like, what happens with Amanda? What did you do to deserve that? Yeah.
And maybe not. Maybe she deserves it anyways.
When was the last time she was first chair? I don't think she ever was first chair. And and if so it would have been probably like a season that kyle cheated or something like season two or three but like she doesn't really have a lot besides like launching she's just kind of like just like the fun friend that's there and like kyle's partner but like clearly something has to happen because it's page and amanda flanking him but she also responded to it saying like she was also shocked by the seating chart so like we're all just like, what? I'm not saying this with a judgment more and amazement because, again, as a I'm a person who got married later in life.
Like I've certainly had my fun in my 30s, you know, yada, yada. But the level of partying these men do when they were showing that scene, like this is how boys hang out at night.
like when they come home to the bars and it's like three in the morning and they're like microwaving like chicken nuggets and fries all at the same time like again i've had my fun i've been selfish me and my wife even went to stagecoach this weekend you know what i'm saying we're not above like still having fun but like we still we were in bed by 11 30 on friday you know like tyler and tate texas like hey you still at stagecoach like in bed you know um i don't remember the last time i think i was like 26 27 when like i would go out to the barge with my friends and come back and play video games and eat food late night and the fact that like they're still doing it is just impressive all at the same time but crazy we were at stagecoach and we were talking we were talking to some people and they were like oh you guys going to the parties afterwards and i'm like i've i don't do cocaine and i didn't realize this because like aloof nick sometimes doesn't pay attention to the surroundings but this i found out that this particular person just got done doing cocaine after I said I don't do cocaine, but I didn't see them do cocaine. And now he was like, did you say that on purpose? I'm like, no, they were doing, huh? And there was...
Anyway, so there's a whole world of drugs out there that we're not privy to. But I just don't get how you stay up that late as an adult.
Cocaine.

Pasta.

Yeah, pasta.

Babies.

If it's 3 a.m. and you're partying and you're an adult.

Four loco and a line.

How do you do it?

The people do it.

I don't know.

I'm not saying anyone's doing anything.

Some people are not elves.

But that person was.

I was going to say, I stay up late with my best friend, but we sing Disney show tunes wasted off of Rose 8 till like 3 in the morning.

Yeah. It's pretty wholesome.
That's cute. Pretty wholesome.
See? That's another explanation other than drugs. Our drugs, at least.
Yeah. Disney keeps us going.
Disney is a drug. Well, Kelsey's here.
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Kelsey, welcome back to The Vile Files.

Hey, I'm happy to be back.

Happy to have you.

I was just like, you know what?

We need to have Kelsey on the show.

We don't want Joey.

And then we ran into Joey and we're like, sorry, Joey, we're only having kelsey he's like honestly she's better without me we're like okay great no i feel like at the beginning it was always nice having him as like my emotional support like you know person because i was always so nervous but now i feel like i kind of you know i can talk on my own now i have my own voice i'm my own person now for like how long into your like

engagement being public

did you

because I think

people don't talk

not that I'm trying to have

some sort of therapy session

with you

but like people don't talk

a lot about how

the winner

regardless of

which season

is like

one of the worst positions

to be in

while it's airing

and filming

because I think the winner

does not get a very

similar experience

than the rest of the people

in the cast

because they all feel like

they get to be friends

and they all have

one thing in common

and while it's airing and filming because I think the winner does not get a very similar experience than the rest of the people in the cast because they all feel like they get to be friends and they all have one thing in common against you that none of them do is that like he picked you and he broke up with all of them. Yeah.
And then you get to hang out. You know, it's like this weird kind of dynamic and like some of the women are able to still make friends with the other women.
Sometimes there's a little bit of tension recently talked to um juliana who you know kind of echoed that same sentiment about feeling a little like isolated from the rest of the women but like what has that experience been like for you do did you relate to it and how did you and joey you know eventually kind of work through it to like find your voice to like feel did did you guys talk about it did you have to say i kind of want to do my own interviews because you know at first it's just like joey and kelsey let's bring them on together like it's like as a did you guys talk about it? Did you have to say, I kind of want to do my own interviews? Because, you know, at first it's just like Joey and Kelsey, let's bring them on together. Like, it's like as a pair, you guys are like, we always want to see the couple.
Does it get annoying? Honestly, no. I mean, like I always told Joey, I was like, I love being your fiance, but I also want us to always be like our individual selves.
And a lot of it was like Kelsey from The Bachelor, like Kelsey, Joey's, you know. So I feel like that was hard at the beginning.
But now I feel like we've kind of been able to like find our own paths. And I think that social media has helped me with that a lot, like being on TikTok and like posting videos and stuff and showing more of my personality because I feel like the show, you know, they only want to show really like the love story.
They didn't really show like who I was, I think fully, which is fine. You know, there's lot of um things that they were recorded um but I also feel like I just lucked out in the end because I'm friends with like pretty much all of the girls like I don't know I feel like Joey's season maybe was it an anomaly like where it's just I don't know like all the girls like I'm still really close with I hung hang out with Daisy and Rachel a lot because they live here and Leia and yeah I don don't know.
I feel like we've been able to figure it out after, but at the beginning I was kind of like, I felt like I was his just like sidekick. Yeah.
Yeah. And you were a stage coach this weekend.
Yes, I was. When did you get back? I got back at 2am.
Well, I left at 2am. Yeah.
That's impressive. How do you, do you often stay up late? Are you a night owl? Honestly, I feel like I don't get the best sleep in general.
I just don't sleep a lot. I can run on no sleep.
Joey is not like that. You're going to be such a powerhouse if you ever want to become a mom.
You're going to be crushing. Joey, I feel like, would be struggling.
I will be the one that can definitely stay up later. I don't know.
I'm really good at just surviving off minimal sleep. Wow.
It's a talent. I can never do that.
Did you get in any like fights with anyone? Stage coach or. Did I get any influence? No.
Did you like yell at him? No. It's funny.
The internet things you were fighting. Yes.
No. Which is so funny.
No. I said that I did not know who the person was.
Like, I obviously know who Alex is. I follow her on social media.
I've met her a couple of times. She's super sweet.
But yeah, I don't know. They took two scenarios of like what she was talking about and what I was talking about, which were definitely different scenarios.
And then somehow put it together. And Joey sent it to me and was like, did you see this? And I was like, what the heck? I was like, he was like, you weren't talking about her, right? I was like, no.
I was like, like you were there you would have realized I think she also commented under something being like I was not talking about Kelsey I was talking about like a woman that was like in her like 40s or 50s yeah no and I was talking I don't know who it was I was not talking about a little girl girl. A little, skinny, perfect, cute, blonde, silly, funny, talented, super talented, famous girl.

No, no.

You did recently open up about your BBL that you got.

Yeah.

And how are you feeling post-search?

No, when I tell you.

No, I didn't get a BBL. Have I been missing this? Wait wait you didn't notice when i walked in the wobble again i tend not to look no you know yeah i'm wearing the baggy clothes on purpose uh those are baggy jeans no um i made a video like joking about it um that i was like oh someone thought that i got my ears pinned back and i was like why am i getting ears pinned back allegations like i'd rather bbl or ozempic allegations and then it like blew up somehow now i'm telling you like people come up to me every single day and are like how's the bbl and stuff like this and i'm like oh i did not expect it to blow up on any of my comment section it's like there's always at least a couple comments about BBL.
And I'm like, I think that people think that it's for real. You do have a funny way of like, I feel like a lot of people in the public world will either like ignore comments, not read comments, not like acknowledge comments.
And then some people get like mad and like fight back and argue with people. And then I feel like there's you who just like make such light and just like goes with the joke kind of.
When did you like start realizing that you were comfortable being like part of the joke? Yeah, I don't know. I just feel like, I don't know.
I like to use humor to like get through things. And I like at first whenever I got off the show I would

like read comments and they would hurt my feelings and then Joey and I just started joking about them and then I was like you know what let me just make a video about this this is funny and it's my humor and I for whatever reason people liked it and so I was like this is fun it's a fun way to like kind of cope and just be like this is stupid you know yeah now that you've been out of it for uh I'm out of fascination for a while

and you're kind of settling into what you're doing.

What is Kelsey? Yeah. Now that you've been out of it for, out of Fashion Nation for a while and you're kind of settling into what you're doing, what does Kelsey want to do? I don't know.
Honestly, I still feel so new to this space and I feel like navigating it is like, you could go so many different directions, you know? I know that Joey, I feel like has kind of found his. I think I'm still searching for it.
I really like, I don't know, working with nonprofits and I and i like you know giving back to my community but i also i don't know i feel like i do enjoy being you know on camera period thank you for saying it's honestly when you're like i love volunteering giving back i was like I don't know and again because it's like we obviously obviously very important but the especially Bachelor Nation people are just so like programmed to like not talk about anything they want to do as an individual to like take advantage of the opportunity they were given by going on this show and to pretend they all they want to do is find love and volunteer is just a little like nauseating right no i'm not gonna lie guys i enjoyed it a lot of competition shows out there yeah yeah i think that i definitely and i talked to joey joey and i talked about this recently where it's like i feel like he kind of not that hate being associated with the Bachelor franchise. Like, I feel like they, you know, gave me so much like Joey and I, you know, he gave me, they gave me Joey.
But I just feel like Joey was able to separate himself slightly from it and be like his own individual self through Dancing with the Stars. And I was like, I kind of want to be able to do the same thing where it's like kind of separate myself maybe show myself a little bit more in a different setting on a different TV show so I think that that is something that I would like to do is like go on a different show you know I had a rumor that Joey might be going on Traders oh did you? do we think that he would be a Trader or a Faithful? oh she's not answering no I don't know i don't think that he is but maybe he is

she's like i'm engaged to him but i don't know what's going on i feel like he would probably be a faithful yeah i think he well he had better be careful because he's definitely mr like well mr popular mr joey and i think a lot of people might be like oh he would make the perfect traitor

that's how I feel

people get in trouble

that's how people get in trouble

yeah

just being nice

just being nice

right

ah and I think a lot of people might be like oh he would make the perfect traitor that's how I feel like people get in trouble just being nice it's like either being nice or like not being nice and then people be like well you were talking to everybody but you weren't really talking to me and that makes me think I feel like you could play it whichever way you play it somebody can just go for you you go for you. You know what I mean? It's like, everyone's a target.

But the golden retriever does very well on Traders.

Peter Weber.

It's true, Dylan.

Yeah, Dylan.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's true.

And Joey's very golden retriever.

Yes, he is.

Yeah.

Little sweetie boy.

If you're a dog, what kind of dog are you?

Oh, actually, we talked about this recently.

I'm a boxer.

Interesting.

Very allergic to them.

Oh, no.

Why? Say more. No, they're just like dorky animals, but like they're kind of cute, but they're just like very like clumsy and like spastic.
And I feel like that's definitely me. Nick, do you feel like you are Jeff? Jeff? Kind of.
Our dog, Jeff. Oh, okay.
Okay. A little prickly, sensitive.
Grumpy a little bit. A little grumpy.
But all in all, like a pretty good dog. But like he's a damn good dog.
He's a loyal, like he loves you and he is a damn good dog. But he's a little like, ugh.
When you come near him, you know, he's like, not again. Jeff hates our daughter.
Oh, really? Yeah. Steve loves our daughter.
Jeff is first. He's just like

so over it. Every time she comes near him, he gets

up and moves. Really? He's like, don't even think about

coming next to me. And then Steve is just

like, we'll sit there and let her crawl

over him and it's so sweet. But no, Jeff is

definitely Nick. How old is Jeff? He's like

almost four. Three, four, three and a half.

So he's not like a great grandpa, like grumpy dog.

Yeah. He's just like...

He's Nick.

He's keeping tabs on you guys. He's like first a great grandpa, like grumpy dog.
He's just like... Yeah, he's just like a...
I don't... He's Nick.
He's keeping tabs on you guys. He's like, first Steve, now River? Yeah, he's like, it's too much.
And honestly, if he is like me, it's not that he hates River. He's just more like, I just don't care.
And after we watched Lady and the Tramp last night, and after watching Lady and the Tramp, it did make me understand Jeff a little bit more. Truly, honestly, Lady and the Tr lady and the tramp back to not call back very accurate like in terms of the of the owner dog relationship when they have a dog and it's just like when we got jeff he was really our baby and it was like we got jeff early in our relationship it was my first dog i really connected with jeff in a way that like i just didn't think i would with a dog and it was just like this special relationship but as soon as like you find out you're having a baby and the baby shows up i mean we still i'm still obsessed with jeff and he's like they're we're very lucky to have our dogs but for the first time in jeff life in jeff's life he was a dog yeah yeah you as opposed to being like, we're just little furry man.

We're just like,

we're just like, we're just like,

we're just like,

we're just like,

we're just like,

we're just like,

it was like,

shut up.

Stop barking.

And Lady and the Tramp

really encapsulizes like that,

that transition.

How do y'all deal with,

because y'all travel a decent amount.

Well,

maybe not so much now with River,

but like,

how was that having a dog

and like traveling?

Because Joey and I want to get a dog so bad,

but we're like,

we just can't get it.

Because we travel so much.

I mean,

it depends on what kind of dog you get.

Some you can like bring with you.

Yeah.

Do you bring Jeff around?

We do.

Yeah.

I'm saying but It's's not doable. It requires resources.
It does. Yeah.
If you guys are on the Miss Independent tour, I wouldn't. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Okay. Good.
Noted. And you're definitely headlining the Miss Independent.
That to be on his birthday list. Was that on his like before 30, like need to get a dog? No, thank goodness.
No. But he was like, oh, maybe I want a dog for my birthday.
Cause I'm always like, what do you want for your birthday? Cause I, you know, I've got my own ideas of like lists and stuff. But at the same time, I'm like, is there anything you want?

Yeah.

Has Joey's bucket list ever, like, gotten annoying?

I think that he realized, like, oh, this is a lot.

Like, oh, we've got a lot of things to do.

We're going to Japan, I think, in two weeks.

Oh, my God.

Yeah.

For, like, five days.

How long is that flight?

Four days.

No, I think we're literally losing a day going and coming back wow yeah okay happy birthday yeah i've heard nothing but amazing things no yeah we're really excited but it was so funny he was like maybe we should golf one of the days i was like joey we're gonna be there for five days do you really want to use time for 18 fucking holes i was like do you really want to use all day for golf i like, this is your birthday thing. Is Joey big into golf? Oh my God, yes.
He's like obsessed. Joey is a big golfer.
We've been going to like a bunch of golf events and he got me like my own clubs. Wow, he's like, listen, you can come with.
I got you those clubs. Yeah, so we're a golf couple.
I just like kind of plug in. I'm like, let me just hit that over there.
No, that's so fun. How is dad's love life? Still in love? Yes.
Still in love. I saw your dad and his girlfriend.
They're like official. Yeah.
At that Hulu event. Did they go through the we're dating but not boyfriend and girlfriend stage? Like it seems to be the case nowadays in dating culture.
I don't think so. I feel like they are pretty, you know, old school.
I think he asked school i think he asked she's not my girlfriend but we are definitely exclusive no actually we were at like a lunch or something no we went to dinner with like barb's daughters and it was like joey and i and my dad we were at dinner and he was like so i asked barbara to be my girlfriend and announced it to everybody i was like that is wonderful beautiful now can we get the lobster yeah i was like uh we're debating whether we want now his mom to go on the golden bachelor oh my gosh really yeah we're we're debating i it's she's in the process now where it's like she's done all the like interviews and stuff and now it's like waiting she's just like waiting to hear what's going on right you know and she said that she was like should i just message them and be like hey would love an update or else like would love to do something else with my summer. Like, you know, would love to make plans.
And she said that she was like, should I just message them and be like, hey, would love an update or else would love to do something else with my summer. Would love to make plans.
And she said they responded being like, hey, thank you so much for reaching out. We don't know.
She was like, okay. She's like, we fired everybody.
Not sure what we're doing, but stay in touch. What did y'all think about, did she think that the golden bachelor was cute? She said to me, I would have dated him in high school.
Oh, there we go. She loves a big, burly athlete.
But I feel like I'm just, I don't, I feel like the public got, you know. Straight up.
Did your dad in any way at all just become ever just the slightest diva? Diva. Where you were uh you know we're just like as i said to dally's mom like you know what it's like this shit is not normal yeah it fucking changes you yeah it just changes your brain chemistry and most of it is understanding like the shit like some the way people in interact with you treat you it's weird and you have to change your behavior because of how people change your behavior towards you at the same time like it's hard to like not have it change you a little bit so it was just more like oh do i want to deal with my mother-in-law right becoming a little diva she's a wonderful person but i'm just curious your dad seems seems down to earth and normal and we've heard nothing but good things,

but like son,

like father,

daughter,

like was it,

was there ever like,

oh God.

Honestly,

no,

I feel like it's,

he's like kind of awkward with it.

Like he's like very like,

oh my gosh,

like they wanted a picture with me.

Like still like, he's like,

oh my gosh,

that's so embarrassing.

Yeah.

It's not like,

but sometimes I'm like,

yeah,

just take the picture.

Come on.

Let's move on. We gotta go.
Give it a moment. Yeah give a moment come on no I feel like he's like more just like slightly uncomfortable but also thinks it's kind of fun yeah did Barbara slide into his DMs or like how did they come did he know who she was when I don't I don't think he ever watched the show I didn't one of my sisters did She knew who she was.
But I think that her manager reached out to my dad. Actually, I think she saw him actually on my season with Joey and saw him at our hometowns.
My season at our hometowns. And yeah, I think that she was like, wait, I want to talk to that man.
And how did he react to that? They would like talk on the phone for a while. Then he came into LA and they went on a date and yeah, I think he thought she was cute, but they're a cute couple.
I know. I will say.
Speaking of how people met, have you, you probably haven't. I've been following the story.
It was the NFL draft this weekend as well. In addition to our anniversary.
Missed that one. Shocker.
Have you followed Bill Belichick's? Do you even know who Bill Belich is yes um he's dating the like 25 year old she's in she's engulfed in in football i mean she's you're like a big vikings fan right yeah yeah she's she's in the so you know yeah i'm like you know i double in it well our first year anniversary was on sunday and on sunday also uh there was a cbs good morning news report like bill Belichick sat down in an interview with CBS this morning. And it was, let's just say, like, no correlation, no connection between us.
But like, it just was like, they do not represent age gaps in the way we would like people to represent age gaps. And in what way would you like people to represent age gaps? Well, with like, you know, hope.
and just like, positivity.'re not talking about this normalizing just like the healthy ones yeah okay you know uh there he's bill belichick for those of you don't know he's arguably the most the best nfl coach ever in the history of coaching he's won the most superbowls i believe he's up know, second most games in general. And throughout his career, he famously has made journalists and other beat reporters who follow these teams scared to even ask questions.
He's a very intimidating interview. And he's sitting down with this interviewer and the guy gets into like talking about his new relationship and they pull back and then they, he's like, how did you guys meet? And in the background, his new new girlfriend is like we're not answering that question it's just like you're answering for bill belichick in a way that's like why can't you answer that question of how you met just like if just say at a bar yeah mutual friends you could be very we're not talking about this it does make us wonder why you're not talking about it But then they brought up the Instagram post where it's like him laying down on the beach and like she's on top of his legs and like whatnot.
And it's like you guys are doing very Instagram couple-y things. Why would you not want to talk about your relationship? Right.
You don't have to put it out there. Right.
But the way she's like in charge of that aspect of their like as she's running like a PR. Like I couldn't imagine.
I'm not even Bill Belichick. And the way, like, if Natalie and I, in the first couple months of us dating, I was doing interviews, and then Natalie was in the background being like, we're not answering that question.
Next question! Don't ask it again! Could you imagine? It's like, what high-end escort service did you reach out to to meet your girlfriend? Because that's what now the entire internet is speculating, being like, why don't you want to answer that question? It's not even like a hard, like, okay, you're dating, there's an age gap, whatever, like fine, you know, like we like to think that looks madder, but like. He very much looks his age.
And at the right age of 77. Is he 77? How old is he? I don't know he's up she's 24 4 4 but like very much

73

73

yeah

maybe she just wants

you know

listen

a lot of what we say

a lot of it

a lot of it depends on looks

age gaps

also like where you are

in your time of life

yes of course

do you feel like

you're each other's equals

can you give the same energy

yeah

yeah

no for sure

she was saying that next

I was also

I was gonna go into that next

but it does

I feel like a lot of it

does matter on where you are. And maybe she's like, listen, I don't want any of that at all.
I just like want, you know, kind of like Dave Portnoy's girlfriend. Like he's made it very clear he's not having children and he's not remarrying you know

like i think he's still currently married to his first wife and it's like why him and sylvana broke up and now he just has gone like public with his new girlfriend who's a young blonde and it's like listen if she's not looking to like get married and have kids right now then like have fun yeah you know

anyways

next time someone asks

how you met

at least lie

yeah get married and have kids right now, then, like, have fun. Yeah.
You know? Period. Period.
Anyways, this next thing happens. Next time someone asks how you met, at least lie.
Yeah. No, sometimes.
So many easy options. I know.
I'm going to be like. I slid into his DMs.
Yeah, I'm going to be back at a bar. Yeah.
Crazy. Grocery store.
Sounds believable. Honestly.
Should we get into Dorit and PK? I know you're not a big fan of reality TV,

but Dorit Kimsley, she is a Beverly Hills housewife.

She's going through a little separation.

And kind of the whole season, it was like,

are they going to get back together?

Are they going to make it work?

What's going on?

And PK was seen making out with another blonde reality TV star

over the weekend.

And she looked very similar to his legally wife, Dorit Kimsley.

And which then made her file for divorce.

Like the next day.

Like saw the photo and was like, and I'm done.

Yep.

Wrap it up.

That'll do it.

And then he went on Instagram.

Yeah.

He went on Instagram and made, do we have his? He said, no one plays the victim better than the one who caused the damage on a black screen. Mysterious.
PK does love a like notes app. Comic Sans.
Yeah. Yeah.
It was a weird font. It was a very weird font.
It was like, it was a weird font. You watched him like scroll through the the fonts and play with a couple of them, and then he landed on that one.
He took away his power by going with that font. He said, it looks like I wrote this myself.
He took away his power. It really did.
Yeah, it was like an old man putting on a shirt that he thought was cool without asking any of his friends if he should step out, you know? He's always just sending these written statements or like feeling the need to shut down a room or whatever with just like black screen, white font. But the woman he was making out with was on the season 12 of The Amazing Race.
And she's also dated Ryan Seacrest in the past. So I think that they're all just kind of probably in the same circles.

But it is shocking how much she looks like Doreen.

What same circle is that?

Just entertainment in general.

In LA, I would feel like.

I am curious.

What is it about PK that is?

Yeah, it does make me judge this woman more than it does make me judge PK.

Because I am confused at like what.

What's he working?

What's like what?

Like I get Mo.

You know I get Mo. I get Mo.
Yeah. Tall yeah tall sexy still got the looks seems to be pretty rich still and then pk is kind of like maybe in debt alcoholic we know that recovering not sure she doesn't know the state of his do you know who these people look like bring them up bring them up bring up.
Bring them up. Bring them up.
Side by side. I've been wanting.
This is Beverly Hills Housewives. Housewives.
I feel like so many of my friends watch Housewives and I'm always like, oh, I need to get into it. But then I just.
You do. You do.
Yeah, this is PK. Okay.
And that's his wife, Dorit. Go to the third photo over.
And that is the new woman he was caught making out with. Like, where are they? Does it say? Now, do we think these are staged pop photos or not? Anytime I see paparazzi pictures, I always think it's staged now.
I think it's... Well, okay, PK's biggest thing is that he's boy George's manager.
No one's stalking him. No.
Well, no, his biggest thing right now is he's the husband of a housewife who's famously kind of messy online and going through a very public divorce. That would drive a paparazzi to pay attention.
Yeah, I don't know. Not everyone is staged.
Natalie, it was outside Cipriani's. Oh, yes, of course.
If it's a good-looking photo of both people, chances are it's staged. Also, he's not trying to hide it if he's at Cipriani's What's Cipriani's? I'm not familiar Isn't it like an Italian restaurant? Yeah an Italian restaurant really popular in New York I guess we have one in Beverly Hills area But it's like going to Craig's or something Where it's like you don't think that paparazzi's going to be out there Yeah So he wanted to be seen Whether he called them himself I don't know But what's jarring to me.
Yeah. If he showed up to Craig's with a new lady, that's on purpose.
It's the same person. Yeah.
And that's his wife. That's crazy.
He's also publicly posting on his Instagram stories. Dramatic, dramatic things.
So he's doing this on purpose. And what do we think his purpose is? To piss offit to win the divorce yeah well what is sure but what is winning the divorce looking like you're the most moved on and I guess settled he's trying to make it seem like she's causing all of this drama where it's just like you don't have to react to it either well he's yeah if anything he's giving we're divorced we've been going through a divorce whatever she's doing publicly I've no idea But in reality We're getting divorced Yeah through a divorce.
Whatever she's doing publicly, I have no idea. But in reality, we're getting divorced.
Yeah, and you are following what she's doing. Yeah.
I think he doesn't want to lose his diamond. I think that's what's going on.
That's the thing. He's also very involved in Housewives for a guy who's supposed to not give a shit.
He's very petty. He posted on his Instagram stories, no one plays the victim better than the one who caused the damage damage.
Obviously it'll never happen. What? It'll never happen.
Never. Never.
But if, let's say there was trouble in paradise, who do you think would be the messier of you two in a breakup? I honestly don't think either of us would. Obviously.
Well, that's what Paige and Craig said. I just feel like, I don't know.
You can't. I mean, if it was,'d probably be me Kelsey would Kelsey would make a TikTok and be like oh matter of fact no I'm joking yeah no I'm joking no I just feel like neither of us are messy people like I don't know I don't think that I would ever be publicly messy like I would maybe like say something to my friends like if no for sure he may be upset and I'm sure vice versa but like sure yeah saying your friends

but the way

publicly no

the way

reality TV stars

just can't just

yeah

just

not say anything

it's a disease

but what about

Taylor Frankie Paul

and Dakota

over Stagecoach

I saw that picture

I'm gonna have a hard time

keep it up

actually

cause I watch Mormon

well we

well

that's not that

it's reality TV

well let me tell you

season 2 is an absolute banger

what

season 2

it's good

it comes out

it's awesome let me tell you season two is an absolute banger yeah season two it's good oh it comes out it's awesome may 12th i've seen it oh i'm excited yeah it's very good but we have what dakota like blocked taylor yeah dakota blocking taylor you have taylor and macy in a car doing a tiktok being like if you're done with your ex move on to the next and she's like i guess i'm self sabotaging their relationship again and then hours later here's taylor posting her and dakota dakota licking her neck and it's like wait what is but her caption was like stagecoach with my cast mates like it was like not like father of my it wasn't like love it was with my cast castmates. Yeah.
Very business. Well, I'm invested.
I can't wait. I'm excited.
I met all of them. I feel like at multiple things now, and they seem so nice.
And whenever you see them together, you're like, oh, there's no drama. But then you watch the show, and you're like, oh, my gosh.
You all get each other. No, it's crazy.
There's a lot of drama brewing. Oh, she actually edited her caption and said, I never let my heart go all the way with my castmates and co-parent.
Okay. Thank you at Stagecoach for having us.
Oh, with my castmates and co-parent. Yes.
Co-parent. Okay.
Clarification. Not even baby daddy.
Co-parent. Co-parent.
Very formal. Like they met in a science lab.
It is very formal. It's getting very formal.
Yeah. Very professional.
Co-parent. Nothing says co-parent like that.'re hicking my neck.
It is. Like a hickey.
Sierra brought up an interesting point earlier with the Mormon wives where it's like, what's the line between their real lives and what they're doing? I don't think they know. I don't think.
I think it's so blurred at this point because it's like, I hate them on the show right now, but I'm actually best friends with them on TikTok. I never hate them on the show.
No, I'm saying like them hating each other on the show or it's like you hear all the drama about what's going to happen in the show and then you get on tiktok and it's like no they're literally hanging out together well i would say and what i love about them is that like they are well more real than the average person because i do think like a lot of times people especially in la they just like talk their shit behind your back you know it's just like hey yeah and they say it to each other's faces and then they move on but a lot of that's honestly fairly I'm not going to say it's healthy communication but at least you know where they stand and they kind of get through it and it's all in the name of honesty of like you you know, hey, we're Mormon. We can't lie.
So like, I think you're up, you know, like, which I kind of love and respect. And it makes for great TV.
I mean, they are. I don't know who's friends.
I don't know who's not. I don't know who's pregnant.
I don't know who's not. I've seen the whole season.
It's awesome. And I'm still like generally having a hard time keeping up.
Are you confused? Because I'm confused. I think the only person I'm clear on is Demi and Whitney are friends.
Yes. They did all their press together.
Oh. All their photos are together.
I think that's their buddies. But the rest, I'm confused.
And then they all posted to promote Vanderpump Villa. So then I'm seeing everybody like everybody in the photos and i'm like who is friends with who wait did they go to vander did they yeah okay that's what i saw i saw like a little snippet and i was like oh and that's out now so i'll be going home to watch that they were trying to save that show yeah let's be honest i wonder if it did honestly i wonder if it did yeah they had to make some changes to the format because I think it was just so trying to do a below deck situation.
So now they've kind of upped the ante with a almost game show aspect of it where the people that are working at the villa, they're now competing for like the top spot as like pretty much employee of the season. And they'll win $30,000 plus contract with Lisa Vanderpump, whether it's like chef or whether like to work at one of her restaurants.
$30,000 to work for Lisa? $30,000 to win the show. Sounds like minimum wage to me.
But then you get an opportunity with Lisa. That sounds like minimum wage.
Yeah, it's like you win $30,000 and then you get minimum wage. A job.
They got nothing season one. And it didn't do we, do we deserve the credit for making Lisa like separate herself from James Kennedy? I feel like that was all I wouldn't say we should take that, but I will say that maybe she did see a little something and maybe someone asked her on a red carpet.
Someone did ask Kristen Doty about our interview on a red carpet. So I don't find it that impossible that someone asked her about the phone call that she made to Allie Louber being like, Hey, why would you convince her to go back to her abusive ex-boyfriend? That seems toxic.
And she was like, oh, I actually don't support him any longer. I'm separating myself from James Kennedy.
Yeah, makes sense. But she is hiring someone for $30,000.
Well, she's giving them $30,000 and then indebting them with a job. That sounds like a $30,000 job.
Yeah, bonus. Is it a bonus? Yeah.
That sounds like minimum wage. And I will say what is interesting about the show is because I did think that Vanderpump Villa was going to be a set location and that she would try to get people to want to go and reserve it or whatever.
But last season was in France. This season's in Italy.
So it's just for the show. There is no standing villa that you could go visit off season.
Vanderpump Villa is not real. It's not.
What it's like just for the show. Like there is no standing villa

that you could go visit off season.

Vanderbilt Villa is not real.

It's not.

What's the point?

It's a house they rent in.

That's what I was confused about.

It's an Airbnb.

They're at a castle this time,

but like it's, yeah.

Okay.

When they're done with the castle,

I guess they break it down

and pick the next location.

Break down the castle.

Whatever they built in there.

Are you saying her entire world

is not real and fake?

I would never expose somebody

in such a way.

Yes.

That's crazy.

Well, Jax Taylor was caught

I think it's a good idea. built in there.
Are you saying her entire world is not real and fake? I would never expose somebody in such a way.

Yes.

That's crazy.

Jax Taylor was caught exposing his crotch in public.

Joey would never.

Joey would never.

Well, he's- Wait, who's this?

Jax Taylor.

From Vanderpump Rules and the Valley.

Yes, yes, yes.

He was walking down the street, I guess,

going into a grocery store.

Paparazzi are there,

and he decides to lower his pants to scratch deep inside

I'm sorry. He was walking down the street, I guess, going into a grocery store.
Paparazzi are there. And he decides to lower his pants to scratch deep inside his pants.
And paparazzi got it all. Is he wearing underwear? No.
It's Jack, so probably not. He like full on is like a pull down and then a scratch.
That's disgusting. This man has a child.
This man has a son. Yes.
Do you think that was like on purpose? It's just like, I can't understand whether or not he knew the paparazzi were there. It's just like, why would that ever be an appropriate thing for you to do out in public? Does he think he's like, it's like a fuck you to the paparazzi or something? I don't know.
But it's also like, I think he's crashing out right now because he was on like live and his publicist was like, get off right now. Stop what you're doing.
In the comments. Log off.
He was on for like five minutes talking about like how great he's doing, how he's been to rehab, how he's a changed man. That's crazy.
Now. He's like, hey everyone, I'm doing great.
His publicist is like, you have to stop talking about it. He's like, no, I'm doing actually pretty good.
She's like, get like get off you're done feeling like my best self finally for the first day in a while get the fuck off live stop talking publicly right now and he's no longer doing the podcast with britney so he started a new podcast called in the mind of a man podcast that's scary i don't want to log out that's our nightmare in the mind of a man would never be there I will not be logging in. That's my worst nightmare.
Don't want to log out. That's my nightmare.
The mind of a man. That sounds so dark.

I will not be logging in.

That's my worst nightmare.

Don't plug us all in with you, Jax.

And it should be the mind of Jax.

He labeled himself a walking red flag

and he's wearing a shirt

with ick on it.

He's really leaning into this branding.

That's all I have to say on that.

Guess.

Cheers.

That's so. The way we love her.
Sinking ship. I just wanted to look away, I will say.
Have you seen any of the kind of like influencers not like under fire because it's not that big of a deal, but like people kind of giving them hate for like what they're naming their children. Have you yeah yeah i feel like i've seen some is there it's wild it's gotten to the point i think someone commented this of like you're just like you're just naming objects like these are not children it's just like some people are like oh i like here are names that we love but we're not using and it's like for our girl.
And it's like, that's okay. We're losing the plot.
Like, you've got to at some point. Right.
We got to reel it in. 100%.
Cities work. Yeah.
Baby blue. No.
Some colors work, for sure. Wait, is it baby blue? Like a city? A city? Think about it.
A city could work. Madison.
Yeah. Paris.
Paris. Countries? No.
Mexico.

Canada.

Bangladesh.

Chile.

Spoon.

But like some things are just objects.

Yeah.

Bodies of water.

Work.

Yeah.

River.

Atlantic.

Oh.

Lake.

No, but ocean.

Like Pacific.

You know, it's like we also all at some point where like Northwest is crazy to name your daughter. And now we're kind of like, honestly, yeah.
It's a vibe. Sorry, Gwen.
Apple still gets me. It was always crazy.
It's still crazy. How old is Apple? She's an adult.
Yeah. She's got to be grown by now, but that's the whole point.
Like, I wonder what she thinks about it. When we went into naming River, like you have to think about like, yes, you are naming a cute little like girl with pigtails who's like super cute and really woozy and like so cute.
Then you're naming like a girl who's in high school and then you're naming like a CEO boss bitch who like is heading meetings being like, hello everyone, my name is Mexico Tarantulaula and i am here to get it's like you have to at some point like i think at least you need to give them a normal middle name right so they have the option 100 also my mom she would rhyme our names with everything before we were born just to make sure we weren't gonna get made fun of so thoughtful yeah kelsey belsey

yep she's like that

fine we weren't going to get made fun of. See, it's so smart.
So thoughtful. Yeah.
Kelsey Belsey. Kelsey, yep.
She's like, fine. Fine.
Yeah. My mom put so much thought into all of our names.
Like, my sister is Taylor Victoria, and my other sister is Jordan Elizabeth, and both of our names, and then I'm Kelsey Alexandra. So it's two-syllable, gender-neutral first names, and then our middle names are three-syllable, proper feminine queen names.
Yes, of course. Buffalo.
She is so thoughtful. She's like, I don't want them to be jealous of each other's names either.
I was like, one gets a queen and I get a princess. I only have two syllables.
Wednesday? Wednesday. Remember Wednesday? Adams? No.
Yeah, that's what I was just thinking of. Oh, was it tomorrow? What was it yesterday? Afternoon was Francesca Fargo's on her list of we aren't using what we love.
Afternoon. Everyone was like, girl, you can keep it.
She was like, I don't want to say this one yet because we might use it. What did she use? Locket and poetry.
That's a thing. That's just a thing.
You know, and honestly, I don't really give a fuck. Because it's not my kid's name.
I don't have to call you that. Somebody's kid's name is Rumble Honey.
Rumble Honey. There's also Abcity.
Have you seen? A, B, C, D, E? No. Stop.
Yeah. Hello.
It's like really good. Like, I think whoever has a kid next, it should name them honestly like mark yeah like the most basic name and then it will be so unique yeah you know because everyone's just going bonkers i want i want one of our kids joey and i's kids to like have a super italian first name just because his last name's so italian like i want him to like, I don't know, like Luigi.
Luigi Graziere. Luigi might be taken.
Loves Giacomo Giacomo Gianotti. Oh yeah, Giacomo Gianotti.
We met him on it, like that name. Right? But he also said he got very bullied for it because he was like, it was very Italian.
So I think think he went by Jack. Yeah, he went by Jack! No, I was really happy to realize that after we named River River that it's actually a fairly common name this year.
A lot of boys are named River, but it's common. And I don't think you want to be the kid in elementary or middle school or even high school with like everyone being like wow i've never heard that before what is your name right huh yeah like that's you're just setting your kid up for they there's so much pressure to be the coolest kid ever or they're just gonna have to you know learn how to i don't know fight fight i feel like teachers have to be like the kids that are coming in with these teachers learning how to pronounce and spell them.
You know, they're so nervous. I remember my teachers being like, OK, everyone, you only have one name to remember.
And I have 27. So cut me some slack.
And they'd be like going down being like, I'm going to mess this up. So I'm just going to go with your last name, if you could just tell me how to say that.
Smith, what is your first name?

Okay, got it. Thank you.

That was like they were all, and now I bet they're like.

And now you have like, Apsidy.

Yeah.

You're like, this is just letters.

Yeah.

Christmas.

You will never forget afternoon.

You know who has a fun name and is really being talked about right now?

JoJo Siwa.

JoJo Siwa, your bestie. She is fresh off of Celebrity Brook Brother, UK style.
UK? Making waves! It started with her getting Mickey Rourke banished. Yeah.
Well, I mean, he got himself banished. He portrayed a type of homophobia that we have not seen in years.
was ignorant Giving very old outdated man problematic 80's action movie level Terrifying And then She kind of sparked up a romance That got the internet talking Romance maybe maybe maybe We don't know Everyone's just putting their pieces together. They were definitely like very...
There was Chris. Her and Chris were very...
From Love Island, UK. Yeah.
They were very like... They had a bond.
They were holding hands. There was chemistry.
They were snuggling. They were like kissing foreheads.
They were, you know, showing affection. And JoJo comes out and says, you know what, everyone? I am not lesbian.
I'm queer. Which the internet really ran with.
But it seemed like that was based off a level of ignorance. Was it not, Mary? I think the biggest thing of this is that, well, it's normal for someone who's 21 to be figuring out their sexuality as they're getting older.
JoJo's 21. This is basically her in theater camp.
We're basically watching JoJo go to college on TV.

So it makes sense

that you're figuring stuff out.

I think what gets tricky is

when the branding comes into it because now JoJo

has kind of branded herself as lesbian

pop singer and now she's like, well,

queer. And everyone's like, JoJo!

But she's allowed to do whatever

she wants. But her

former partner of recently a couple

days ago is non-binary.

Yes, they're non-binary.

So, that's fucking it. You're keen to see me.
You don't miss me. You don't love me.
You don't like can't wait to kiss me. Nothing.
And so then as soon as JoJo exited Big Brother, there was a breakup with Kath. Yeah, JoJo went to the party, to the after party.
He said, you are dumped. And dumped them at the after party.
And now everyone's like, okay, so what's going on? And now she's playing tennis with Chris. Yeah.
So. Always providing us entertainment, JoJo Siwa.
Thank you so much for your service. JoJo works hard.
It's crazy she's 21. Isn't that crazy? She's grown up and like in front of our eyes.
Yeah. I haven't talked to her.
I FaceTimed her when she got out of the house She did not answer I hope to find out the TeeTee Shortly I hope to find out the TeeTee Why did you call TeeTee? Just a silly girl He's trying to be hip He's trying to be hip Nick, they don't say Tee anymore They don't? No. Soup? Yeah, they say soup.
What do they say? Spill me the soup. Pipe in hot soup.
What do the Gen Zers say? No, I'm just fucking with you. They say rad.
Yeah. Cool.
Cool. Tubular.
Tubular. That's awesome.
Kelsey, it's been fun. Yay, thank you guys.
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Have you recovered from said drama? Yes, thankfully. I feel like you have entered this whole new era of your life where it's like, I don't even associate you anymore with Too Hot to Handle or Perfect Match or any of those shows.
I feel like you've made such a name for yourself outside of those shows. Have you risen above the brought you down 100 and a big part of that was like moving away i moved to new york and i was like wow there are people here that don't care about this stuff like they're doing stuff outside of social media and i don't know it just changed my whole perspective on everything i was kind of like why do i care about that i know what these people are like i don't need to tell everyone like i know is there know.
And that's good enough. I mean, I think this is a stupid rhetorical question, I suppose, because I feel like you know the answer.
But is there an influence-y group in LA? Like a circle of try-hards? Yes. And I feel like when I moved here, it was my first experience of this place.
So I kind of like, I'd see these people everywhere. And I thought they were like real and friends.
And I kind of learned along the way that it's not many people you can trust in that influencer-y thing. Do they all drive nice cars and pay rent? Literally.
It's like you nailed that. Summed everyone up.
No one owns a house, but they all drive G-Wagons. They've all got the fake drip.
I'm like, okay. That's my favorite thing about them.
It's like, you know you're a loser if you don't own a home, but your car is- Yeah, and you're renting it. Car payments $1,500.
If your car payments as much or more than your rent. Literally.
That's a really good indicator. You're a loser.
That's everyone in LA. Not everyone.
Oh, Everyone I know. I only got introduced to the clicks, you know?

Okay.

So you feel like New York has opened your eyes to genuine friendships, better people.

It's amazing.

It's like people are actually doing things outside of what I'm doing.

And I'm like, wow, what I'm doing is not the be-all, end-all of everything.

I don't have to worry about stuff online. People are are doing different shit.
They're like. Like, do you have a friend in purchasing? What do you mean purchasing? Like a normal job? Like an accountant? Everyone.
Yeah. Everyone's in finance.
Everyone's cool. I'm like, this is where I should be.
Like sales associates. Yeah.
This is like the men that I want to surround myself with. Medical sales rep.
Yeah. All of the cool stuff.

But yeah, no, they're like real down to earth.

If they don't like you, they'll tell you.

And I'm like, thank you.

Like, I just want people to be honest.

Oh my God, I love her.

Yes.

Oh my God, I love her.

I haven't seen her in so long.

And you're like, you were just talking shit about me.

Let's get lunch sometime.

Oh, weren't you just sleeping with my ex?

That's crazy.

Good to see you.

Oh my God. I'm like, that's literally my life.
know i heard about that bitch literally and then you have a new show and they're like yeah yeah yeah they come back out yeah i'm like what is um your love life like these days um non-existent and i'm loving that i'm not gonna lie like you need to date a normie i did date what i thought was a normie turned out to not be so normal. What does that mean? Well, I mean, sure.
You might just find out they're a psychopath. But he was not out of the scene.
No one knew who he was. Low key, didn't post online, private account, ticked all the boxes.
Went by a different name? Yes. And then I kind of thought that that was by choice.
And then I realized this guy's like, maybe he's hiding some stuff. And I moved to New York and I was like you know with him for a while things were good and then yeah not so good now I'm like I dated another person after that that was the most diabolical person I've ever dated in my life the most the most like I'm not we've talked it's like anyone I'm attracted to, I need to like get away from.
You need to not be attracted to your next partner. How do I change that? Do we need to unpack that, Georgia? Yeah, I'm like doing therapy now.
So I'm like unpacking that. I'm like, what's wrong with me? Why do I find these people? Like it's insane.
How are they diabolical? So manipulative, can present a whole person that they're not, and you find out a few months later that they're nothing like that, really controlling, gaslighting. The last guy I was seeing literally went through my phone in my sleep, hacked my iCloud, got my location and had tracked me for five months.
I had no idea. When we stopped speaking, it was turning up to places that I was and making out it was a coincidence.
Then then one night called me and told me i know you just walked through your front door i was like dude i'm moving like the people i meet are like what did you think of me when you met me like did you think what was like on the chances he's a psychopath scale like what were Um, well, I mean, I think we like went to,

on our first date,

we like went to dinner,

like an hour after I had ever met him in person.

And he was like,

so like,

I can kill you tonight.

And I was like,

wait,

that's hilarious.

That's like,

I think about that.

It's not hilarious actually happening,

but like,

you never know who you're dating.

You're like,

what if I'm a psychopath?

Literally.

He's like,

so I could like actually kill you. Well, that's crazy.
was judging her for meeting me being like what is wrong with you were you that bad what were you that bad no i no i'm that good okay yeah obviously i feel like you guys are great so i wouldn't see i'm a i'm a normal person but i was doing an unnormal. So I was judging her for meeting me, being like, how do you not know I'm not fucking? And also, are you going to murder me? Yeah, true.
That's my response. It's like, well, what if I...
Oh, I was definitely afraid of Natalie. I was definitely afraid of Natalie.
We murder each other. The only person who would do this is someone who's going to kill me.
For the follow-up question, how many people know where you are right now? Literally. I knew how I was doing it.
Does anyone have your location? Is anyone expecting you home later? Could you actually turn off your location services right now? Are you close with your family? Well, I mean, honestly, though, but maybe that's kind of what you're not looking for like there was a healthy

amount of like awkwardness

between Nally and I and nervousness

of both being like

I don't know about you

you know and yet we were both kind of like

hopefully giving each other like green

flags but like we were like very

there was a

there was like an awkwardness

I feel like I mistake chemistry like I think i'm connecting with someone and it's actually like a toxic bond forming it's someone really manipulative and they're really playing me and i'm like we're so the same oh my god this is like i'm gonna marry this person and then i realized nothing like that i'm like i need to like stop like i need to. That's crazy.
Maybe I'm the only good guy out there. So wait, how did you get your location off of his phone? So I had an inkling something was going on when he kept turning up to places that I was.
And I was like calling my mom and I'm like, this sounds really crazy, but there's too many coincidences happening. He keeps turning up to places and she's like, he's tracking you.
And I'm like, how would I even see that? So I went through my phone and looked at like location was off. I made sure family sharing.
I've heard you can do that. Turn that off.
I'm like, no, I have to be good. This is in my head.
Then the phone call happened and I'm like, panic. I go into Apple.
They've seen this shit before. So they're like changing all my passwords, like telling me what was probably their likely scenario.
And I 100% know it. Like I'm a deep sleeper.
He knew my password. I would always fall asleep before him.
Sometimes I'd wake up, the vibe would be off. I wouldn't know why.
It was like obvious that he'd been snooping and doing stuff. And he knew things that you could only know if you were in my phone.

But I was like, you know, what are the odds of that?

You just never think it'll happen until you have proof.

Yeah.

And yeah, I just think like.

We can bleep this out.

But are we talking about.

Yes.

Who?

I've never met a man like this.

This is like.

I'm not kidding.

He's like possessed. What's up is he like possessed Short Too short to act like that I'm such a bitch That's the thing But if like If he's got a great face You know Harry could get away With their height It was like You know We made some exceptions Not that You have to go No matter how No matter how much fucked up a tall man is, he's still tall.
Yeah. And he still, like, doesn't have to overcompensate.
Yeah. And sadly, with the short kings.
Yeah. With the short kings.
His short kings really swindled me up. There's a real, no matter, the problem with the short kings.
And I love the short kings. And I do think the short kings need more representation.
I like a short king, too.

And I do think the ladies out there need to be open to like 5'10". But the problem sometimes with the short kings is there's a true – This is such a good conversation.
There's a true – there's an always constant – what's the word? Complex. Imposter syndrome.
Yes. So no matter how much success they have in their life, They're like their childhood self

and like their high school self will never really believe that, you know, obviously you're a beautiful, attractive person. And then they're just like, they just can't outlive the person they see in the mirror and they become insane.
Well, you really know. So be careful of the ultra successful short kings.
See, that was it. Successful short king.
That's crazy. And when I met this guy, I was like, he's a dream.
Like, he's foreign, cute accent. Like, we really vibed.
He was like, I'm not like, you know, I'm kind of, I don't really care about the sceny stuff. Oh, when they say I'm not like.
Yes. And then I've never met someone that wanted to put me down so bad like he very successful i was always like you're amazing like you're so great he was like you your career is so embarrassing can't be seen with you in public like don't walk near me at this event because like we can't be seen together why would you accept that well because it was kind of put through in a way that was really disguised in the beginning.
It was like, my team says I can't be seen with you. I'm really sorry, but it's a bad look for me.
You have to stay private right now. But Georgia, I'm going to have to push back here.
I understand. No.
Well, I'm like, you know. You kept me private for a long time.
I've been on dating shows. I'm like, this comes with a thing.
But you did keep me private for a long time. So if you had, thank God you didn't.
Because I was obviously very, yeah, I was like, I was, I was, I was, I was like, you know, I get it. I've been on dating shows.
It wasn't my team. It's not the best look, you know, I'm like, I can understand.
Like, I'm not like, you know, I get it. I get it.
You're a successful guy. This is probably not.
I get it. But eventually this better not be a problem.
Right. And then it was like, you know, masks in that he's really proud of me, but whatever.
And then we would have arguments. I kid you not, he would look at me and say, we do not compare.
I'm here. You're here.
You need to know that. And I was like, I never said I would just bawl.
I was like, wait, what the hell? It's so sad. So sad.
And then he would like snap out of it and be like i don't know why i said that i'm so sorry like i'm so proud of you and i'm like splits personality what's happening okay that's what i think are we we need we are recording this so uh we are doc what like we need to come up with some key phrases for you like when they say help me i'm sorry for saying i don't know why i said that. Yeah, yeah.
In a calm, immediate, like.

I'm like, it's okay.

No.

Oh, you're forgiven.

I honestly forgot what you said.

If they don't know why they said that.

I love you.

Then the answer is they're a psychopath.

Literally, I know, but he would be.

If they say something crazy and then black out and go, I don't know why I said that. It's really a red flag.
I'll write this down. Psychopath.
I know. I don't know.
I need to change that part of me that's too forgiving and accepting because those things grow and they grew. And I was like, damn, okay, I should have paid attention to that.
And that happened on my birthday, by the way. It was my birthday when that one happened.
What's the other issue with your dad? Yeah, this is where I've done the research in the emotional trauma. And I think it's because my mom and my dad never got married.
They're like really good friends. But my dad's from Sydney in Australia.
My mom's from Queensland. She moved when she was young.
So they had like a long distance friendship. My dad worked in Sydney.
So there was only times that I could see him. It wasn't like very frequent and he's a great dad.
But when I was young, there was a lot of stuff that I missed in that connection. So I feel now I look for emotionally unavailable men because I'm trying to like prove to myself that I can make them stay because I felt when I was young I didn't have that you know what I mean and I love my dad we get along right now and it's like he was the best dad he could be but I feel like that really did something it is crazy how that did something and also my mom has bipolar and her emotions are very, so when I was young, I was always trying to overread her emotions.
Now when I'm in a relationship, I'm always like reading into things and like catering to people's emotional needs. But that must be very difficult.
I can imagine. I know very little bit about bipolar, except the fact that it's incredibly difficult for the person suffering from it and obviously the people and family members.
But I can understand why you have an exceptional empathy for people acting out of pocket maybe a little bit. And emotional fluctuation.
I'm like, oh, I've seen this before. This is fun.
My mom's like this. This is normal.
I grew up with this. I'm comfortable with this.
I know this. My mom's like,

get away from them.

And I'm like,

yeah, true.

If they like you,

like,

I get it.

She's amazing.

She's like,

that's not okay.

You shouldn't be with people like that.

But I'm like used to that.

So it's a little hard.

But I'm very aware

is the part that's great.

You are very aware.

But I'm really bad

at applying that awareness.

Unless you're in it.

Yeah.

When I'm in it,

I'm blind. I'm in it i'm

blind i'm like you i don't you you can dm us i don't know if you have my number you can text natalie or whatever but just be like hey a guy just said this to me like just wondering if told me i was a loser five minutes later said doesn't know why i said that like is that normal behavior and I'll be like get out run

okay

but wait he did just take his shirt off wait he is kind of actually hold on i'll text you back in a minute but he's taking me to lunch sorry i'll get back to you after this but going on a holiday with me it was very nice it was really sweet yeah i probably will do that from now on i'll take you up on that so battle So Battle Camp. Yes, really fun.
Yeah, well, you almost won. How did you feel about your best friend, Lorenzo, winning when you had the odds in your favor? Honestly, so happy.
I voted for Lorenzo. I also have won a Netflix show, so I was kind of like, I'm here for the ride.
I'm just going to see how far I can go. You didn't need the money.
Never thought, everyone everyone needs money I would have loved 250k like I would be like thank you so much I could have done a lot with that but I think Lorenzo was the most deserving plus Lorenzo can do so much more with it than me I feel like he's you know been on one show hasn't really had his time to like pop into things yet and like start a brand, start a life, you know, work. So I feel like this is going to change his life so much and he's so amazing.
And he really like, me and him were very similar in the show. I feel like we were very like neck and neck at a lot of stuff, but he outdid everyone.
So he was the most deserving physically, mentally, emotionally, and also biasly.

Like he was my best friend.

What was the challenge you were most afraid of doing?

I mean, going into it, I didn't know it would be this bad, but the submerged one, they make it look so much more chill than it was.

Like we were in that ice bath thing for hours.

Like they were doing, so they wouldn't tell you how long you're sitting in there.

It was just like a battle of your mental strength. So you're sitting there for like six minutes, 10 minutes, in and out, like all day.
And none of us are like tapping out. We're all like, no, we've come so far.
This is like horrible. We have to win.
So they like changed the last round to be you had to hold your head under the water in the ice. And they don't show how bad it was, but like it was bad.
like I was like forced drowning myself pretty much like my body was like seizing and I like breathed water in my mouth and I'm like fighting because I could hear but like just to be clear you were always safe we were always safe we had heart monitors on there was like a med team on the side like we were safe it was controlled but you were really your bodily limits yeah and i i could feel that but i was like really have you taken an ice bath since no okay you did win the first time you did it though yes yes i did i won so it was worth the trauma but like they made me do it again in the final and i was like you guys are so mean for this because i was like crying after. I was like having nightmares about it.
It was horrible. Did you go to a sleepaway camp? What sleepaway camp? Is that an American thing? Like the kids send their, like the parents send their kids off to like bye.
No, we don't do that in Australia. The parents actually love their kids to take care of their kids.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm kidding.
That's cute. That's cute.
Or they're too poor. We were too poor.

Oh, okay.

Is it expensive?

Is that an expensive thing?

I think so.

Getting someone else

to take care of your kid?

Is it like a summer camp thing?

Yeah.

Oh, that's so fun, though.

That would be cool.

Yeah, I mean,

I guess a cheap version

of sending your kids away

to have someone else

watch them for a period

of time overnight.

But, like,

what a cool thing.

Like, as a parent,

you're just like,

bye,

and you just get your life back for a little. It was kind of like these days i wouldn't do it i did go to one i think it was only like a week like i don't think it was that long but i remember i called my mom every single like constantly and she was like honey stop calling me you're at camp Make some friends.
Leave me alone. I am busy.
Mom's having fun.

So good. I love that.
I was like, can I call my mom again? Like, seriously. You gotta stop.
Get on the horse. Who do you think brought the most drama? Because to me, like, Tony was overreacting.
Brie and Louis, to me, looked like a showmance. Yeah, that was really cute.
I love Brie and and louis they were cute but the drama they they weren't dramatic i feel like tony was the most dramatic they cut a lot of that out like he's very way more dramatic than that so was his exit more confusing in person okay yeah yeah can you elaborate i don't know if i can but would love to. But no, he got a great edit.
Tony. They love Tony.
They love Tony. They love Tony.
Who do you? They love Tony. Who don't you love? I didn't bond that great with probably Morgan.
I feel like she was a different kind of personality to me, and I'm not good with people that are a little more introvert. I take like the wrong way.
I'm like, they don't like me.

But I also feel like she didn't like me.

So it was on point.

Like we ended up voting for each other.

I didn't vibe with her that much.

Outside the show, she was really sweet.

Spell ecstasy for me.

Oh my gosh.

So I am a really good speller.

You are a good speller.

I was terrified.

I am already going EX, unfortunately.

That's what everyone said they would do. I can't spell for shit.
So I do be clear. I know it's E-C-S-T-A-S-Y.
I know that. On the spot.
Say it again. Spell it again.
Spell it again. Spell it again.
I spelled it wrong. You spelled it wrong on here? You spelled it wrong.
Ha, ha. It's hard.
That's right. I'm so sorry.
I spelled it wrong on the sheet. I spelled C-Y on the show.
Oh, they got it wrong. See? That's how I spoke it.
Because in your head, this is one of those words when you're visualizing it. You've already put a C in the front.
You've already put an S. Did you go like… No, I was too scared because I'm falling off this thing.
So I was originally going to write on my hand, but then I couldn't. I'm holding on for like dear life.
I already put a C and an S. I'm like, which is the last one? Is it C-Y-S-Y? As soon as I said it, I was like, no, no, no, it's S-Y.
And they're like, done. No, you've said it.
It's locked in. One of my absolute favorite things to watch are high school spelling bees.
Just spelling bees in general, I guess. It's awesome.
Yeah. Can you spell restaurant? That's easy.
R-E-S. You think restaurant's easy? T-A-U-R-A-N-T.
Taurant. Restaurant.
Taurant. Taurant.
No, but it's like the A-N-T. You know them.
You love them. Taurant.
The intensity where they're like. You're just being a nerd now and it's soft on TV.
Can we pull up a couple more words? Can I have it in a sentence, work? Can you spell philanthropist?

That one I'm going to give to you.

I can't spell.

Nick is just like saying, you can't spell.

I can't read.

Wait, see, this is my issue.

I can't visualize things.

I need to write it down.

If I had a pen and paper, I would have slayed.

But like me in the mind, I'm like, my brain was not working like that.

And also, I have a fear of heights.

Polly went before me.

She got her word wrong.

They launched her so far in the sky. She landed on her face on the beanbag and she's like swollen.
And then they're like, Georgia, you're up. And I'm like, no, I hate heights.
I'm so scared. So I'm like begging them to like, if I get it wrong, only use one man.
Don't use two men to launch me. Like I'm scared.
Was there any word in your head that you were like, please don't ask me? At that point, probably just everything. I was so scared.
I'm like, I don't know. You're like my own name.
Don't. The first word they gave me was swimmer.
And I was like, oh, easy slay. And then the next one's like, ecstasy.
And I'm like, okay, I know this one. What do you think the hardest four-letter word is to spell? What is this, wordle? That can be anything.
Me off the top of my head. Can you spell foe? Foe? Uh-huh.
P-H-H-O Oh Can you spell chic? I'm like scared Don't ask me anything Big text Only one time No How do you spell S-H-E-C-K No not the sound out And then he goes Like stylish Like chic? Wait that's hilarious No I'm Like. I love how you didn't just go for the voice note, because that was so crazy to spell it out.
Sometimes if you read our text, I sound like the one who's 18 years younger, who's in school still. You're like, hey, mom, how do you spell? I actually love that.
I wouldn't expect that from you. Recess.
I wouldn't expect that from you. I feel like it's just a brain thing.
You just forget sometimes. He just forget sometimes He texts me all the time How do you spell this? My brain is very good at some things And really shit about this Me too It uses all that energy The good stuff What word were you thinking? The hardest four letter word I don't know I don.
Oh, you just asked a question? I'm sure it's out there. I was like, I don't think there is a hard one.
F-A-U-X, by the way. Oh, faux.
F-A-U-X? It's like faux fur. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Not real. I thought you meant faux.
Faux. You spelled faux.
Faux. I was like F-O-E.
That's three. I'm saying how to this one.
I mean, he's way too smart for us. We've got to get him out of here.
Yeah, my brain. Oh, my God.
Are are you watching anything these days are you enjoying anything as a fan love black mirror that's not really reality though but i've been loving battle camp honestly i know that sounds stupid because i'm on it but i've watched you're a narcissist yes so i love myself a lot literally just the first show that i'm like actually able to watch of mine that I'm not like cringing on repeat.

And I'm like, this is what I missed out on

because I was in the challenge

and I didn't see these people doing that stuff.

Now I'm watching them and I'm like, wow,

I didn't know that happened.

So it's actually really interesting.

Did it make you want to do like more challenge?

No.

Like Big Brother, I would be down for it.

Like a social challenge kind of thing. But like, honestly, Battle Camp was really hard.
Like it I'll go. Like, Big Brother, I would be down for.
Really? Like a social challenge kind of thing.

But, like, honestly, Battle Camp was really hard.

Like, it was really hard.

I don't know how I got through it.

How long was the film?

Like, how long were you all there?

Like, four weeks.

Did you know going into it that heights were going to be so heavily involved?

They asked me.

They, like, alluded to, like, I was like, so what kind of challenges were you talking?

Like, you know, swimming, maybe some, like, what is that?

Zip lining.

And I was like, what kind of heights does that involve?

They're like, nothing crazy.

I was like, okay, because I have a phobia.

It's not like perfect we'll add heights to every single challenge for georgia and i'm like no it's not like a like i actually like have a full panic i had a panic attack they cut it all out but like the last thing they were making me do you do understand reality tv right yeah i? Yeah, I know. But it's like, give me some of the,

give me some of the credit.

You know, you put me up there,

like make me look bad. Like I tried.

What, what black mirror episode

do you think is the most realistic

that you're afraid of happening?

Oh, well, I've definitely,

it's happening,

but what's it called?

Nosedive.

The one that's like all about like likes

and what people think of you.

Brian, Bryce Dallas Howard.

I love it.

I love, you need to watch it. It's pretty much like social currency.
So it's like how people interact with you and they can see looking at you how liked you are, how many stars you have, what your rating is. And then it's like people will not associate with you if your rating's low.
You can get it marked for not doing nice things. You won't be able to rent a car at a certain place.
If you don't have a rating. Oh my God.
Like I would not have been able to make it this far. So everyone's like super fake and like, oh my God.
And then you rate each other. It's like the key to my success.
I like your shirt. Do you want it? Yes.
Okay. And then that gives you like a mark up.
But if you didn't, like they can be like mark you down. They mark you down.
Like in front of you. Interesting, because I honestly feel like part of the key of my success is like just being completely oblivious to how people really feel about me.
Yeah. And like, and then people kind of are like, I don't know how you show up in the world, the way people feel about you.
Yeah. So this is like, and then I get this a lot from people in Bachelor Nation, which is like, I wish I didn't care about people hating me.
Like they hate you. That's just a nice backhanded compliment.
You really deal with hatred me like they hate you you're so good at ignoring everyone that fucking hates you and talks so much shit about you you're like so good at you're like whoa okay people are talking shit about yeah i wish people are like you would just like not care that people hate you you know i recently signed a deal and i got a lot of dms from people being like Man, that many more reasons to ignore the haters And I'm like, what? What haters? That's hilarious What have you heard? It's so funny because I feel like I'm a victim to that mentality I always thought that you're just like, whatever But you just don't realize, I guess No, I mean You're just not that tapped in I'm glad Honestly I didn't want to tell people I don't think you get hate But I mean like The one few times I've seen You're just so unbothered I'm like I love that No I don't care It's literally what you just said I just said to you Well I don't look Well I tell the people Because they're just like Well how do you do it I'm like I don't look I care Yeah out of sight Out of mind I care Of course I care i'm a human being but i don't go looking for it looking hey guys what do y'all think about me on reddit like a lot of reality tv stars who tell me they think it's fun to go on reddit and read about themselves because it's like and i'm like you cried yourself to sleep yeah reddit's like don't go there i don't have that. I don't have the app.
I'm like, I have self-control.

No one goes on there to compliment people.

No.

That shit is scary.

That's scary.

It's like how to make soup

and talk shit.

So true.

Like I came here

for a recipe,

but by the way,

Georgia fucking sucks.

I hate her fucking face.

She's so annoying.

I want her off this show. Anyways, the tortilla soup is the recipe.
Love you guys. That is so accurate.
Going back to the plank situation, you said that you almost had a panic attack. Because from our point, watching it back, it looked like more you were just trying to manipulate Chase.
So there was a moment I switched that on because I was already crying so i was like i don't want to go off this plank this is like i'm gonna act my life out right now and i was already crying but i've walked out to the plank and i've seen that i'm on a safe one and i'm like i already have tears on my face i need to kind of play into this so he thinks i'm on a bad one otherwise he's gonna take my plank so i for a Moment put it on but as soon as I looked at Chase I was like I'm gonna laugh like he's just so unserious I can't look at him and like be like acting like this so yeah I broke character and yeah I was very terrified though the tears were real and then I was like I'm gonna play into this for a bit for a manipulate Chase. It didn't work.
I respected you. You were like, I'm good.

I had to hustle because I didn't want to go off that thing.

That's my worst ear.

I even betrayed Cutie.

In all honesty, we made a pact that we wouldn't,

before we went on those planks, we were not going to sell each other out.

We were like, we're going to protect each other because we're so scared of heights.

It all went out the window.

Girl, every man for themselves. I'm not going off this flag.
And then I was like going anyway. I'm like, cutie, I'm sorry.
Don't hate me. Sorry.
I had to do what I had to do. So what's next for you? Good question.
I'm actually, I'm taking some acting classes off the back of this. I actually want to get into acting.
Turns out I know turns out i'm a professional dates of one anyway no i actually really want to do acting i did a short film a while ago and i found it really fun and now i want to see like if i can like tap into that a little bit more and like where it could take me like i netflix is cool like if you're cool with them they have a lot of opportunities if i took it seriously i could see what what would be there you know see if there's something they could put me in maybe maybe netflix help help me out no but like i also want to try like hosting or something i feel like also want to start a podcast so many things on my mind right now i'm like damn what do i do i go what kind of podcast do you want to start like a dating one i feel like an advice one i have so much trauma that you guys know a little bit about we've touched on but i have a lot more and i feel like i really want to like educate girls would you be willing to like talk about your escapades and i'm a very honest and raw like for real yeah i feel like i all the tea. Interesting.
In a way that like I'm not going to get sued. But yeah, I'll give the tea.
Yeah, just come up with like aliases like short king. Yeah, literally.
I feel like I could give enough but not too much, you know? Yeah, it's a lot of stuff that people should know about. You know we have a production brushing company.
I know. You do? Yeah.
In media. Hook me up.

We can talk.

Yes, I have a whole deck planned and stuff, so we should talk about it.

You do have a deck.

Yes.

I'm taking this serious.

I want to do it.

That is my number one requirement.

Okay, perfect.

Then we're good.

And you're in.

Look, if you want to get rich and actually work, then we can talk.

And I love talking and I love meeting people and hearing stories and relating to people and helping people people so i feel like it's something i should try and you're living in new york yeah okay yeah i love it new york's great favorite new york story you've experienced since you've been there oh wow oh so many crazy ones i'm trying to filter out the ones i probably can't say imagine this is your first episode of your podcast oh i podcast. I don't really know.
Honestly, this is sad because when I moved there, I was there for a year. I didn't experience anything.
I was kind of on house arrest with this relationship that I was in. So I didn't do anything.
I was boring. Now that I'm single and experiencing things, I'm out and having fun having fun but didn't have fun for a long time it was just work film the show boring like i don't really i don't really have any crazy stories yet i need to make crazy stories okay yeah i know that's so boring i'm trying to think you know what's annoying i'll leave here and i'll have the best story.
I can't think of it right now. Okay.
That's okay.

That's okay.

Do you have a favorite restaurant or a favorite like?

Oh, yes.

Yeah.

Can we get a rec?

I'll tell you mine if you tell me yours.

Tell me yours first.

Okay.

The American Bar.

I'm not in there.

Oh, my God.

The American Bar.

Go on Thursdays.

Do you eat meat?

Yes.

But good.

Okay.

Go on Thursdays.

They have a special of bourbon chicken.

Whereabouts is this?

West Village. Oh, my God.
Love West Village. Okay.
I'm going. It's so good.
They have an amazing martini. Oh my God.
They have an amazing Greek chopped salad. And they have an amazing bourbon chicken.
Okay, I'm going to try that. Natalie loves their bourbon chicken so much.
We have flown to New York on a Thursday just to get the bourbon chicken. We need to get there earlier so we can get there in time to have dinner at American Bar for the bourbon chicken.
That's pretty good. And every time I'm there and I'm like, please make this a staple on your menu.
Like, please take it off of Thursdays. Oh, my God.
I'm going to try. Okay.
That sounds amazing. Okay.
What's yours? I like French food. So I like pasta.
I think it's called. I'm probably pronouncing it wrong.
Patis? That's it that's it okay that one that's it I get everything I like um wait the chicken the chicken pie thing that they have they have a really good French onion soup that's my fave. They have a really good burger that I haven't tried I probably need to try that but yeah I love French food so I'm down very good is their French fries your favorite French fries yeah I'm like they're iced tea is really nice everything basic no French onion soup is really good I'm a big critic it's really French it's French and it has like a good layer of cheese and stuff so is it actually French is that why it's called French onion soup yeah I guess maybe the onion maybe the actual onion is French and Is that why it's called French onion soup? Yeah, I guess.

Maybe the actual onion is French? That's why it's called French fries? Or is it French cheese because that's the brand? Is it French because the onion's from France? According to the internet, French onion soup is indeed from France. What about French fries? It was invented by none other than King Louis.
King Louis? King Louis! Wow, they're quick on the facts. 14th

the 14th

Katie Lou

is that XV

is Roman

he is 15

XV is like

15 Louis. King Louis.
King Louis. Wow, they're quick on the facts.
The 14th? King Louis. Is that XV? He is 15.
XV is like 15. He was getting into a soup.
You think he was on Reddit? He was like, hey guys. He's like, he's on soup.
It's just been stolen. Love that.
Love Louis for that. Love Louis for that.
I can't guys around since medieval times medieval times is crazy it's a favorite you wouldn't like french onion soup I don't think that's why I've never tried it you know I'm not even an onion fan but it's so good it's just like all the cheese on top that's the best part that's my part when you. When you pull it and it's like stretching.
I'm like,

damn.

Do you like a

mozzarella stick?

Love.

But I want it to be

like that.

It's dry when I get it.

Instead of like

taking it and then

all the cheese falls out

and it's just like

the wrapper.

You just get the

whole oven of crust.

What's it called?

Ruby Rosa?

Ruby Rosa.

You've been to

Ruby Rosa?

No, I wasn't.

Really good

mozzarella sticks.

Ruby Rosa?

Really good pizza and mozzarella sticks. Yum.
You guys have the regs, right? You need to send me this. Where do you go? Just like...
I like sweet cream. Ruby's? Ruby's? It's an Australian-owned place in New York.
Little Ruby's Cafe. And they're really good.
The food is insanely good. Little Ruby's Cafe.
They just opened one near where I live in Williamsburg, and it's amazing. That's where we met.
Yeah. What was that? We met in Williamsburg.
You met there? Oh my God. That's where we talked about killing each other.
Wait up. There's so many people.
I get that vibe there. Yes.
No, that's so funny. I love Williamsburg.
It's great. It's really cute.
It's really cute. But yeah, Ruby is amazing.
It's good food. It's good to see you, Georgia.
I know. It's so good to see you and so nice to finally meet you.
I heard so much about it. I feel like we've –

Did we meet before this or no?

No.

I don't think –

I feel like we've texted.

I think I just know you because I've watched so much of the podcast.

Yes, we spoke.

Yeah.

That's it.

We were like meaning to hang out.

Yeah.

Then I fled the state.

You fled the state.

Yeah.

Left.

Left the chat.

I left this whole place.

I got pregnant and you were like, fuck this mess.

No.

That's more of a reason for me to be like, hang out with me. I used to be a midwife.
Like, I love that shit. You used to be a midwife? Yes.
Do you want to pull out my next baby? I swear I told you this. When you say, so like you were just delivering babies? Yep.
I literally filmed To What to Handle season three, then went back to normal life, went back to a hospital job, delivering babies, like three babies one night sometimes literally no one why don't people why don't more people know that i know because it's not hot right like they want you to be like too hot to handle it's like not that hot it's kind of hot i feel like it's like it's fun it's great hot i don't know it's kind of gross it makes you very like it's amazing but's like- It makes you very unique in a group of people. Let's email, like, reality TV stars, it's a melting pot of various backgrounds, intelligence, and things like that.
But, like, there's not a ton of people in the reality TV space who, like, who have something really going for them other than their face. Yes.
I think that's what they like to come across as as well so like when I met them the production they were like you were you're a midwife they're like I don't think anyone here has ever studied like anyone else on the cast I was like really no one's read a book yeah like wait you're the first person with a degree like that's crazy I was like yeah no that's very cool though it is it was honestly the best thing I've ever done like it's amazing do you if i were to like give birth right here right now would you know exactly what to do or would you be like no exactly i delivered a baby in a car park once it was amazing i was literally about to leave my shift and then they were like i had my bag and everything they're like do you want to deliver a baby in the car park and i was like are you serious yes and we just like run down the hallway with an emergency like delivery kit got outside she's like in the car park and I was like, are you serious? Yes. And we were just like run down the hallway with an emergency like delivery kit.
Got outside. She's like in the car giving birth.
I'm like catching the baby. Amazing.
It was so sick. That's pretty cool.
Yeah. It was the sickest.
I have so many cool stories about that. Not only is she stunning, but she can deliver babies and she can spell ecstasy.
And restaurant. Yes.
Okay. Love that for me.
And restaurant. Your podcast will be called Birthing Problems.
That's a good name. Wait, that's a good name.
Like dating problems? I don't know. Birthing problems.
We can workshop it. People just think I'm like giving birth every other day.
Hey, thanks for calling Birthing Problems. It's Georgia.
What's your problem? Me just talking to people in the hospital having a baby wrong number that could be fun well this has been so much fun this was so fun oh my god i love you guys we should hang out before i go you're going to stagecoach no i'm not going to stagecoach i kind of wish i was are you going yeah maybe i should be we're just going for friday night you should come I messed up because I went to Coachella and then I flew back to New York and I dumped

all my outfits and stuff off and then I've come here for work and I'm like, I should

have just gone to Stagecoach.

Everyone's going.

Maybe I'll change my mind and come.

You should come.

Yeah.

I'm sure you'll figure it out.

Honestly, Lana Del Rey is playing.

That's where we're going.

That's where we're going.

Literally, I need to see that.

You do.

You can find a pair of cowboy boots somewhere.

Yeah.

I'll just rent something or like go to the, yeah.

I'll find something.

I'll be right back. that's going to be literally i need to see that you do you can find a pair of cowboy boots somewhere yeah i'll just rent something or like okay go to the yeah i'll find something yeah i kind of think i should stay here for a while it's fun i'm having a good do you miss la at all i do but i'm like is that just my brain playing games on me because i'm just visiting and getting the good part of it and like seeing people lightly.
Would I love to live back here? I don't know. I really like the life of New York.
It's cool. Yeah, I don't think you would.
Yeah. I want to see like different stuff, meet new people all the time.
New York's like that. Here it's like I'm going to the same place, the same people, getting bored of that, you know? That is very true.
There are all the same people everywhere you go. In New York, any night I go out i meet everyone i see is new i don't ever see the same people wow everyone's cool wow where can they follow you find you on social on instagram and tiktok mainly and snapchat you're snapchatting still well i am i'm getting into it you know it's not my not my vibe.
That's where all the fucking car airpages come from.

You would do it too for a check.

How many times are you posting?

You got to post around like 60.

60?

Yep.

I tried that for like a week. I did it for a week.

I was great.

Now I'm shitty.

So I need to figure that back out.

But, you know, it's better than, you know, posting on Instagram stories and not going

anywhere.

You could be doing something.

That's true.

You'd be making money off it.

So you can find me on Snapchat as well.

Yeah.

Thank you. Great to see you guys.
That's so much fun. Bye.
Bye. Well, that'll do it for our show today.
We're pretty sure we're back tomorrow for a very special Going Deeper. So hopefully we'll see right back.
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They were pinned down from a dish cut and the dish cut was coming from a third

story of a seven story apartment building.

And then we blew that third story out within like maybe a minute and a half

or two minutes of getting that nine line.