E1039 - Leanne Morgan, Southern Charm Premiere w Charley Manley, Secret Lives of Mormon Wives & RHOC Reunion

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Speaker 7 What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to another jam-packed episode of the Vafiles Reality Recap Edition. I am your host, Nick, joined by my patriotic.

Speaker 4 What the fuck?

Speaker 4 God bless you.

Speaker 4 Happy Thanksgiving.

Speaker 7 My grateful wife, my grateful, supportive, compelling.

Speaker 8 Patriotic is good.

Speaker 4 She is

Speaker 7 holidays, man.

Speaker 5 She is grateful. Or you are grateful for her.

Speaker 8 No, I'm just grateful.

Speaker 4 I guess like you're just grateful that I have to be honest.

Speaker 7 I don't know why patriotic came to mind, but

Speaker 4 America.

Speaker 7 Anyways, we have a deliciously jam-packed episode for you lined up today. Thanksgiving is upon us.
It is Thanksgiving week.

Speaker 7 I hope everyone is joyful and with the people they want to be with, whoever those people are. And I hope that your week is about to get comfortable, relaxing.
And

Speaker 7 if you want to be alone this Thanksgiving, I hope it's everything you hoped it would be. Well, we have a great episode lined up for you.
The week's already getting started.

Speaker 7 As you guys know, like it's a different week. So we had our ASNIC episode yesterday.
We have our great reality recap episode with some amazing guests. We have Leanne Morgan with us today.

Speaker 8 Oh my gosh. And she is so funny.
I've been begging to have her on for years, it feels like. And we finally got her.
And she's. Everything I ever dreamed of.

Speaker 7 It's a really fun interview. You're absolutely going to love it.
We also have Charlie Manley.

Speaker 8 So nice. So sweet.

Speaker 7 She's the new member of Southern Charm, which premiered last week. We'll get into a little bit of episode one later this episode.
Also, this week, we have part two of Going Deeper with Jesse Draper.

Speaker 7 It's a cool name. I'd change it to.

Speaker 10 I mean, Don Draper, Jesse Draper, only icons here.

Speaker 7 Jordan joins the show. Jordan Nadikara.
He joins the episode. He sits down.
The episode, you know, if you haven't listened to part one, you need to.

Speaker 7 Part one ended with Jesse and Natalie talking about some of Jesse's difficult experiences with Jordan in her marriage. And part two kicks off with me and Jordan.

Speaker 7 And then it's the four of us, Jesse, Natalie, myself, and Jordan, get together and kind of try to see if there's a future for those two.

Speaker 7 My goal going into this episode, obviously, Jesse said a lot of,

Speaker 7 I mean, shocking.

Speaker 8 Yeah, very heartbreaking to hear that, you know, he did things around their children. He, the details she went into, the things that would make him angry, the control that he had.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 7 I mean, obviously this, this conversation includes,

Speaker 7 you know, a storyline from part three. Obviously, Jesse, as she owned up to the fact that she, you know, had an emotional affair.
Well, she also, I guess, physical. She kissed Marcian.

Speaker 7 But obviously there's a deeper story here. And I think, you know, we're not justifying anything that Jesse said, but I think there's a, you know.

Speaker 7 I think there's a lot of people who listen to this show.

Speaker 7 I know, especially people who call in the ass, Nick, you can truly feel stuck in a relationship, you know, especially when it's marriage and there's kids involved.

Speaker 7 You can feel very trapped when your partner doesn't do their part, doesn't contribute, or is emotionally aggressive, verbally aggressive. And in those situations, it's very dark.

Speaker 7 And I really empathize with those people.

Speaker 4 I mean, it's interesting because

Speaker 10 in the in the episode, Jesse...

Speaker 10 got very emotional talking about the support from like Macy and Michaela, but she didn't really cry when she was talking about Jordan.

Speaker 12 I do ask her about why she got emotional talking about the girls and not talking about Jordan, and she does give us that answer.

Speaker 5 I was going to ask from the Jordan interview, do you feel like Jordan took accountability at all for his part of all of this?

Speaker 7 You guys are going to have to listen to part two, but I think that was my goal, right?

Speaker 7 My goal with this episode was how much of Jesse's mistake was he going to focus on and weaponize against her rather than focus on his actions and

Speaker 7 if he really, you know, when we heard Jesse's version of it, I mean, it was hard for me to listen to.

Speaker 7 to say i was shocked i guess is a bit disingenuous because i do know there's a lot of people out there you know particularly men in these relationships who the way they choose to speak to their partners i think is disgusting but sadly not all too uncommon my hope is that jordan would come in and really own his actions really be disgusted with how he's treated his wife in the past.

Speaker 7 Jesse, obviously in part one, talked about the therapy that her and Jordan have been a part of and talked about how there have been improvements.

Speaker 7 So, my hope going is to see: is this a guy who's really understand the pain he's caused his family and particularly his wife through the therapy he's done?

Speaker 7 Or is he going to use therapy as kind of like a scapegoat or an excuse to be like, I'm in therapy, everything's fine now, but also my wife cheated? So, that's kind of the big question.

Speaker 7 You'll have to decide for yourself.

Speaker 7 But, like, yeah, I mean, listen, on the recent Ask Nick episode that has yet to be released yet, like, again, not justifying people stepping out or leaving their marriages, but you know, right now I'm very much in my like dad, father, like era right now.

Speaker 7 I'm very much like protective of that lifestyle.

Speaker 7 I, you know, I don't want to force any lifestyle on anyone, but for the people who ask me if they, if they want to know how it's been as a husband and father, I, I love it, right?

Speaker 7 I had a woman call in the other day who asked if she was blowing up her quote unquote perfect life.

Speaker 7 You'll have to listen to the episode, but she was basically debating whether she should leave her husband. They have three children together.

Speaker 7 And my initial response was like, oh my God, you got to try to make this work.

Speaker 7 As she told her story, she told a story about how her husband on her first and third child went on a surfing trip for a month, abandoning her, like right after she had her first born.

Speaker 7 You know, she gave several other examples how this marriage has been very difficult.

Speaker 7 You know, she's been trying and doing whatever she can, but sometimes you're in a relationship where your partner either checks out or treats you a certain way.

Speaker 7 And in those cases, it is very challenging. And I really empathize with those people.

Speaker 7 So you'll have to decide for yourself whether Jordan has learned or whether he really sees his actions as something that I think we saw and decide for yourselves.

Speaker 10 I certainly have my take on it, but I'm going to save it until everyone else gets to hear.

Speaker 7 We'll break it all down on next week's episode of Reality Recap, but be sure to check it out. It's a doozy.

Speaker 10 What are you guys doing for Thanksgiving?

Speaker 8 We are going to go see my family. We spend Thanksgiving with my side of the family and Christmas with Nick's side of the family.

Speaker 8 My family randomly decided to rent like a lake house in the middle of Georgia.

Speaker 4 Even though we have one. Well, it's a hard way to get to.

Speaker 8 But it's because both my grandparents died recently. And so we're doing like a little, that's where they're from.

Speaker 8 So we're doing like a little memorial and like all of their cousins and friends that are all still living are going to come. And, but I've been really like ramping River up for it.

Speaker 8 I'm like telling her all the people she's going to see.

Speaker 8 and like what we're going to do and she's been like getting so excited she like doesn't even know who like half the people are but i'm like you're going to see your aunt deborah and she's like

Speaker 8 and i'm like and you're gonna see your cousin cole and she's like

Speaker 7 so we're trying to get her excited yeah last last holiday season she was like not even one yet everything was just kind of like what of yeah she wasn't walking or anything i feel like this season she really can appreciate and and get to know some of her family members and cousins and things like that and it's really fun because you get to start like seeing the holidays kind of like through her eyes now, too.

Speaker 8 I know. And I

Speaker 8 invited my mom and sister to spend Christmas with us. And I'm like, I have the one thing that makes Christmas magical.
And my mom's like, what? Snow? And I'm like, no, a baby.

Speaker 5 I was going to ask, does she have any cousins near her age?

Speaker 7 Yeah, her cousin, Carl.

Speaker 7 But they have a son that's a few months younger than River.

Speaker 9 Oh, that's going to be so cute when they get together.

Speaker 8 I know. And then all of the other cousins are like

Speaker 8 11 and older, but they're, they're like the best babysitters, you know?

Speaker 4 Yeah. Like, yeah.
They're good.

Speaker 5 Go play with them. You guys get a little break.

Speaker 4 I know.

Speaker 8 It's gonna be so fun. What are y'all doing?

Speaker 10 I am at my sister's house right now. She just had a baby.

Speaker 10 So, um, yeah, I am an auntie.

Speaker 4 Are you helping?

Speaker 10 I am. I am helping in the capacity that I am wanted and needed.
You know what I mean? I feel like a lot of what I can do is just stay out of the way and grab a bottle when needed.

Speaker 10 Yeah, her husband is amazing and doing everything. And my mom's also, she really just wants my mom's help, which is fair enough.
When you have a baby, I don't know why you would want me for anything.

Speaker 10 So, but yeah, I'm here. She's very, very cute.

Speaker 4 The little girl. The little girl.
Yeah.

Speaker 10 Her name's Amelia. Amelia.

Speaker 4 Amelia Rose. Have you held her? Yes, I have.

Speaker 11 I held her.

Speaker 10 We watched a little TV show together while my sister was taking a shower.

Speaker 7 Justin wants to know if there's a Thanksgiving flavored baby food. What is that?

Speaker 7 Is this labeled Thanksgiving?

Speaker 8 No, it's like turkey and it's like pureed like turkey and gravy or like it's disgusting.

Speaker 4 I would never chicken and crystal light. Yeah.
We really served over

Speaker 4 baby food.

Speaker 12 No, we did the purees.

Speaker 7 For like a minute, for like a week.

Speaker 8 No, for like two months.

Speaker 4 No.

Speaker 4 Sarah, what are you doing for Thanksgiving?

Speaker 5 It's my first Thanksgiving as a fiancé.

Speaker 5 So we're spending our first Thanksgiving like with just us. My grandma's going to come down, but we're going to try to start our own little traditions

Speaker 5 for the future. So I'm actually really excited.

Speaker 4 Are y'all going to cook?

Speaker 5 Yeah, we're going to cook at home, but like we're going to try to figure out things because he makes crab cakes every year when we go to our friends giving.

Speaker 5 And we usually have like obviously traditional Thanksgiving food, but I think we're going to mix it up this year.

Speaker 4 Great job on that.

Speaker 5 Oh, he makes amazing crab cake. There's big jumbo lump crog cakes.

Speaker 7 I won't be making meatballs. I'm still being harassed and bullied by her family.

Speaker 4 It was one time.

Speaker 8 Literally, it was one time. I think honestly, they've all forgotten Butnik.

Speaker 4 Like when my sister literally

Speaker 8 texted yesterday being like, here's the menu for Thanksgiving. We need like more vegetables, a salad, and like someone to do like a roll or something.

Speaker 8 And I texted back being like, I can do a mean green bean casserole. And my sister texted back and and said, is anyone doing meatballs? And I responded to that with sore subject.

Speaker 8 And then I called her and she's like, what do you mean, sore subject? Like, what's wrong? And I'm like, no, remember when Nick? Was she being serious? She was being like genuine.

Speaker 8 Like, is anyone going to make meatballs?

Speaker 4 And we're like, remember when Nick? And she's like, oh my God, that like, I've completely forgotten about that. I'm like, oh.

Speaker 7 So she really wants someone to make meatballs. I guess so.

Speaker 4 That's a lie.

Speaker 10 It is one of those things of like, when you first meet someone's parents and you're like, you think about every single thing for the rest of your life and they like completely forget.

Speaker 8 Completely forget, especially like my family's the biggest tease.

Speaker 8 And like, we just are sarcastic and like

Speaker 8 bullies. And so,

Speaker 8 yeah, the fact that my sister's like, everyone's like, meatballs, huh?

Speaker 8 There was a problem with meatballs.

Speaker 10 And Nick's like still traumatized to this,

Speaker 4 like shaking in a corner.

Speaker 4 Yeah, poor me.

Speaker 5 But they're great meatballs, right?

Speaker 4 They are really good meatballs.

Speaker 7 You know, it's not for me to say.

Speaker 8 I think you should make kill salad.

Speaker 4 I don't want to cook.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 4 Well, that settles up.

Speaker 7 Oh, happy holidays, everybody.

Speaker 4 Happy holidays. Thank you.
I feel cheery. Thanksgiving.

Speaker 8 I have been in the holiday spirit

Speaker 4 for years now.

Speaker 10 I think. I think you take a two-week break.

Speaker 7 Our house was decorated before Halloween. Well, before we get to Reality Recap, we thought it would be fun to talk about what else we are watching specifically for the holidays.

Speaker 7 You know, honestly, a good movie during holiday season is a great family break.

Speaker 8 Saving a movie, like only watching certain movies

Speaker 8 during the holidays makes them 10 times better.

Speaker 7 It's a family lubricant.

Speaker 10 A family lubricant?

Speaker 4 The start of a tradition?

Speaker 7 I mean, I love my family. Love.

Speaker 4 Love.

Speaker 7 But like you get together on the holidays for a...

Speaker 10 Yeah, you got to break the ice somewhere. And what better than like ice skating and watching a movie? Yeah.

Speaker 5 With a Starbucks drink drink in your hand that's so things we can all agree on starbucks is delicious and tasty and wonderful and home alone is a fantastic movie you feel like you i have 10 simmons i can't agree on everything with them but but that's something i can agree on home alone yeah in starbucks i'm a grinch girly myself i will say that is the one movie that i cannot wait for all of the trees to be lit up the fireplace to be going you pair a certain drink from starbucks with the grinch when i have a sip of this caramel brulee latte it reminds me of that scene from how the grinch stole christmas when he's the cheermeister and everyone's trying to stuff pieces of fudge in his mouth and he has to try everything.

Speaker 5 But I'm like, I feel like this is like the best one, the winner.

Speaker 10 Can I tell you something? What? I one time terrified my roommates because I do know that movie verbatim because I watched it so much as a kid and they were like, you don't know it verbatim.

Speaker 10 And I was like, I do.

Speaker 13 And then we turned it on and I was like, inside a snowflake, like the one on your sleeve.

Speaker 8 And then were they like, all right, that's enough.

Speaker 4 And then I was like, no, it's not.

Speaker 10 because guess what i just drank an entire peppermint mocha so i was

Speaker 10 you were ready to go yeah what's your favorite christmas movie well i can't say the cringe because sierra already said it but in close like close tie is uh christmas vacation that's good it is good um it always makes me laugh when he's trying to put up the christmas lights or when he does put up the christmas lights finally and then um juliet lewis as the daughter is like he worked really hard on it grandpa and the grandpa's like yeah and so do washing machines.

Speaker 5 And it's one of my favorite jokes.

Speaker 7 That would make Clark Griswold feel a little better about himself drinking a delicious peppermint mocha.

Speaker 10 If Clark Griswold had a peppermint mocha, none of that stuff would have gone down that way.

Speaker 8 I have to say, I think pairing a caramel brulee latte, hot, obviously,

Speaker 8 with serendipity.

Speaker 4 Love that movie.

Speaker 7 They drank a lot of coffee in that movie.

Speaker 8 Literally, when I am sitting on my couch and I have a hot caramel brulee latte in my hand from Starbucks, I'm picturing myself walking in New York at Christmastime.

Speaker 8 It's cold, it's snowy, there's lights everywhere. Like, I'm in the movie.

Speaker 5 Are you in the department store about to reach for that cashmere thing?

Speaker 7 She walks into her Starbucks and imagines that I'm meet-cute with someone, not her husband.

Speaker 5 But then, like, stages it with her husband, because of course.

Speaker 7 Yeah, we go. We go into a Starbucks every holiday season and role play.
We do. Oh, my God.
They're like, excuse me.

Speaker 4 Oh, my God. Are you going to get that mug?

Speaker 7 Get a puppy mint, Mocha?

Speaker 7 Is this love at first sight?

Speaker 4 Oh, my God.

Speaker 8 They're like, for NJV, and we both go.

Speaker 4 Those are my initials.

Speaker 12 Those are my initials.

Speaker 10 You know, speaking of meet cutes at Starbucks, it's funny because it's not like, it's a holiday. To me, it's a holiday movie, but the movie Best in Show, I watch every Thanksgiving.

Speaker 10 And two of the characters in Best in Show, they're a married couple and they met. at Starbucks.
Anyway, Parker Posey, classic. Love it.

Speaker 7 Great, great movie. Which is a better Christmas movie, Santa Claus 1 or 2?

Speaker 4 Two.

Speaker 10 Unpopular opinion, 2. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Really? Yeah. I'm going to go with one.
I had a crush on the mall.

Speaker 10 The Mrs. Claus.

Speaker 4 There you go.

Speaker 8 We need to figure out what movies we're going to show River this year. What Christmas movies.
Because I haven't...

Speaker 4 She hasn't seen any Christmas movies. Oh, the classics.

Speaker 7 Yeah, the classic. Rudolph's Red-Nose Reindeer.

Speaker 4 Great, the clammy ones. The reclamation ones.

Speaker 8 Yes. Oh, she's going to love that.

Speaker 7 What was the elf's name in that?

Speaker 4 Hermie. He wants to be a dentist.
Yes. Hermie.

Speaker 4 Thank you.

Speaker 7 He would have enjoyed a peppermint mocha.

Speaker 10 Hermie would down a peppermint peppermint mocha.

Speaker 5 Frosty the snowman.

Speaker 9 Frosty's a classic.

Speaker 7 That's a sound. Buddy the elf.

Speaker 4 The little drummer boy.

Speaker 10 Yeah, how are we not talking about?

Speaker 4 He can't sit on a throne of lies.

Speaker 7 He would down a caramel brulee latte. Yeah.

Speaker 8 Yes. Yeah.

Speaker 5 With spaghetti.

Speaker 4 Extra maple syrup. Extra caramel.
I feel like multiple at a time.

Speaker 8 You know?

Speaker 7 One holiday movie that my family loves is It's Wonderful Life.

Speaker 4 I know.

Speaker 7 It's it touches the heartstrings. It's a movie about gratitude.

Speaker 8 And I could not be more grateful for my peppermint mocha by my side was it hard to pick a movie like when you're when your whole family gets together is it hard to decide on one because there's so many of you well rule in our family is if you bring the coffee you get to pick

Speaker 4 yeah for everybody you have to bring a holiday beverage for everybody or is it like you just and the homeowner's choice yeah so it's like really it was dad you know yeah your dad was choosing my mom was always my house my rules you know which makes sense why what it's a work word for life.

Speaker 8 And he also says, he has good taste. So, you know.

Speaker 5 Yeah. Can I also say another one of my favorites? Growing up, watching A Christmas Story.
It's one of those movies from the past that I didn't really understand.

Speaker 5 And every year watching it, it gets better and better.

Speaker 5 And I feel like I just enjoy it more with the people that I show it to or the people that haven't seen it before.

Speaker 7 Yeah, when he got his tongue stuck on the pole, all he had to do was just pour a nice, warm peppermint milk on it.

Speaker 4 That was solved the problem. Oh my gosh.
So true. So true.

Speaker 8 Well, it seems like we'll never be able to agree on the best holiday movies because they're all so amazing.

Speaker 8 But one thing we know we can always agree on is our love for the Starbucks holiday beverages.

Speaker 8 Share the season with our returning favorites, like the peppermint mocha or the caramel brulee latte at a Starbucks near you.

Speaker 10 All right. Did you guys hear Jen Shaw is going to get out of prison December 10th?

Speaker 4 Early. Earlier than expected.
You know who else got released from prison?

Speaker 7 I only know this because I'm from Waukesha. Do you remember the Slender Man killings? Yes.
This person got released early.

Speaker 4 Whoa. that's whoa and i believe it since cut off their ankle bracelet and is missing so yay oh okay you can just cut them off well you can

Speaker 7 i mean i think it's illegal yeah i think it's a thing trigger that you're not supposed to do but you can just like take a pair of scissors like a pair of household scissors to your ankle monitor and be done with i mean i've never had an ankle monitor so i couldn't i think i feel like they're even like on probation or if you're wearing this ankle bracelet for a reason i don't think it's impossible to get like a heavy-duty like wire cutter and just cut it off.

Speaker 7 No. Yeah.
I think if that happens, alarms go off and things happen where they will be like, you are in extra trouble now.

Speaker 7 But I guess if you really want to cut it, you can.

Speaker 10 Well, I don't think Jen Chao is going to do that.

Speaker 8 Wait, she's going to have an ankle monitor?

Speaker 5 She's either going to go to a halfway house or probably be finishing out her.

Speaker 5 Yeah, complete the remaining portion of her sentence under supervision.

Speaker 8 Supervision.

Speaker 5 So she'd either be released at home and be at house arrest or she'd be transferred to a halfway house.

Speaker 4 I see.

Speaker 8 I see. Do we think? So we don't know which one.
I mean, I feel like they got to pick up cameras at least for just like I think Bravo's done with her.

Speaker 10 Andy said he was done with her.

Speaker 10 But, you know, so Monica's kind of stirring the pot a little bit. She posted a reel with the caption, when you can manifest like a motherfucker

Speaker 10 about Jen Shaw getting released.

Speaker 4 Does he want her released?

Speaker 10 Well, because a lot of the things of like, would you have Jen or would you have Monica back? And I think a lot of of the women were like, Jen. And Monica's kind of like, all right, then.

Speaker 4 Well, you get what you ask.

Speaker 4 That's for sure.

Speaker 5 I mean, it was kind of crazy at, was it BravoCon or Watch What Happens Live? Angie had to choose between Jen and Monica coming back. And she chose Jen because she thinks people like her.

Speaker 4 She's more likable.

Speaker 5 And it was just like, in what season? It's comparing like junior high crimes to like. high adult legal crimes.
Like

Speaker 5 they don't, they don't equate to each other.

Speaker 7 Well, yeah, but as far as these women go, the crime wasn't done to them. To them.
Like with Monica, the crime was done to them.

Speaker 9 But that's even crazier.

Speaker 7 And with Jen Shaw, it was just like she's capable of.

Speaker 10 Well, I will say since like Jen Shaw's surrender,

Speaker 10 her sentence has been reduced multiple times. The BOP attributed those reductions to good behavior, participation in prison programming, and financial payments she's begun making to victims.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 7 So she's making amends.

Speaker 10 Yeah, she's making amends. She's been ordered to pay $6.5 million in restitution.
So So she's begun paying her restitution and she has been doing her time.

Speaker 4 So, I mean, we'll see.

Speaker 10 I mean, I'm curious what will happen.

Speaker 7 Well, this week is the finale of Dancing with the Stars. Unfortunately, it won't be including Miss Whitney Levitt.
She was limited last week.

Speaker 7 She does have some peers coming to her defense, none other than the queen of the ballroom. Miss Julianne Hough, who had a scathing quote in defense of Whitney.
What did she say?

Speaker 10 Whitney is a queen, and people only villainize people who trigger them.

Speaker 10 Being ambitious is not a crime, it's a superpower, especially when you have goodness to share and joy to bring to people's lives, which is what you have done. I absolutely adore you, Whitney Lovett.

Speaker 10 You have shown nothing but hard work, playfulness, dedication, and pure talent. You're a star.
I can't wait to see what is next for you. You are magic, and you have me in your corner from here on.

Speaker 10 She's not wrong.

Speaker 7 I do think a lot of people don't like ambition. I know.
Like people who try very hard. Like Whitney.
Whitney is an effort person. She puts effort into everything she does.

Speaker 7 And I think some people find that off-putting. We almost like want people who are like effortlessly good.

Speaker 7 Like they don't try. Yeah.
They just happen to have things work out.

Speaker 10 God forbid a girl is earnest and wants what she wants.

Speaker 7 Do we think we're going to see her on Broadway?

Speaker 8 She's seen in New York.

Speaker 10 She's seen in New York. People think she might be singing for Chicago.
I'm sure she can.

Speaker 8 I think she said in an interview after Dancy the Stars one night when that was brought up, like, oh my God, I would love to, but but I would definitely need to like do singing lessons.

Speaker 4 Just like, I don't think she. Maybe that's what she said.

Speaker 7 Whitney is, if nothing, a perfectionist.

Speaker 4 So. Oh, for sure.

Speaker 8 I'm sure she started singing lessons at night.

Speaker 10 And guess what? If

Speaker 10 Whitney ends up in Chicago,

Speaker 10 I am

Speaker 10 flying out there.

Speaker 7 I am seated.

Speaker 10 I want to see her. And she'll never know that you're there.

Speaker 4 Well, that's okay.

Speaker 10 That's okay. She doesn't need to know that I'm there.
I just want to see it. I'm just a fan.
She doesn't have to like me. I love her.

Speaker 8 I think she'll crash. I think she'll do really well.

Speaker 7 Maybe we'll all go and do a team trip to see Whitney on Broadway.

Speaker 4 Let's go.

Speaker 7 Do you think she'll let us in?

Speaker 4 She'll let Justin in. She lets him.

Speaker 5 We'll put the tickets under our names.

Speaker 7 Can you imagine us going? And then they're like, sorry, guys, you're not welcome here.

Speaker 4 You're actually.

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Speaker 7 All right, let's talk a little Mormon wives.

Speaker 8 This batch of episodes, last batch, moving on from Jesse and Jordan. Now we're very much focusing on Taylor and Dakota, which was definitely not a breath of fresh air, but it was like.

Speaker 4 I almost missed their toxicity.

Speaker 5 A nice change of pace.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 4 It was like, oh, this is what we know and love about this show yes a little stagecoach

Speaker 7 and it's crazy it's almost crazy to your point you got jesse and jordan it's like oh like we're using words like emotional abuse and then we have the demi of it all and it's like we're having you know we got these accusations that are being questioned with with uh with dakota and taylor not to minimize their trauma but it's like good old-fashioned toxicity well it's still pretty dark i mean he's like yeah going to his, her mom's friend, which is I'd rather have that than a husband, you know, for sure his wife names.

Speaker 9 For sure. Yeah.

Speaker 14 But I feel, I feel her struggle so deeply where it's like, you know,

Speaker 14 like now this really, really is the end for them because now her parents are not

Speaker 14 the whole family is done. And so she knows she's like, even if like I could find a place in my heart to like forgive him and move on, he's the father of my kid.

Speaker 14 Like, I don't want to have to like go through this again.

Speaker 15 like she can't it's over now i tried to do some sleuthing is this family friend the girl that was in that video that taylor commented like snakes on or something do you remember this it was like a month ago when oh yeah it was a dancing video and there was a girl in the middle that like oh no no no this is no this is diane's friend this is her mom well and then i realized i don't think it is but like dang everybody be sleeping with dakota i mean

Speaker 10 i just think it was really funny when

Speaker 10 after stagecoach when she was like talking about the girl sleeping with dakota and taylor's mom is just like sitting there in the background with her sunglasses on.

Speaker 5 She's part of it. She looks like the New York meme.

Speaker 4 Yes, she did.

Speaker 10 She looked like the New York meme. She looked alone in the VIP, Candy Muse.
Yeah, it was perfect.

Speaker 8 Which I guess, do we have a timeline of what happened? Like, like her mom's friend is saying that, oh, I was just trying to like be there for him.

Speaker 14 Yeah, everybody's got a different story because, I mean, her mom's friend was kind of just like, what are you talking about? I didn't do anything.

Speaker 5 It's the playing dumb for me where I'm like, even Leanne and Taylor were both like, we know her voice. We know how she talks.
Like, she's clearly lying, but it's like, they're like, what do you mean?

Speaker 5 Who? Like, it's like, don't play dush.

Speaker 14 Oh, I was just sending him pictures of me in a bikini.

Speaker 15 She admitted to like the sexting a little bit.

Speaker 8 I was telling him he should buy this bikini for Taylor, and I wanted him to see how cute it was. I was just inviting him over to talk.

Speaker 10 But then also, she's like, he's gross.

Speaker 14 And Taylor's like, no, because you wanted to fuck. Like, bitch, just be honest.

Speaker 7 Do you think Dakota's hot? I think Dakota's hot.

Speaker 14 Yeah, he's got those piercing blue eyes.

Speaker 5 For me, but not for me.

Speaker 7 I think Justin's objective because I feel like he can just see a man for like how he looks without the

Speaker 7 icks.

Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 15 I do think Marciano, that man's not hot.

Speaker 4 Oh, that's

Speaker 4 Marciano's not. We're done with that, Justin.
No, no, no.

Speaker 15 No, I said he's not hot. Oh, good.

Speaker 4 Oh, okay.

Speaker 4 I was like, why are we all?

Speaker 5 Why are we all disagreeing?

Speaker 4 Oh, my God.

Speaker 8 Oh, my God. That was nervous.

Speaker 14 Yeah, but it's just the fact that they like

Speaker 14 the will, they won't they, and now we're finally at the they won't.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it makes me sad for Disney.

Speaker 14 It feels like the end.

Speaker 5 She did say in her interview where she was just like, I had to leave somebody that I didn't want to be done with, you know.

Speaker 5 So I'm like, I think the idea of thinking that they've built up to a place where they can finally be together and be happy, they're being all cutesy during stage coach to know that that like one thing is looming over them and it's going to be the one thing that's just going to snap, break the camel's back.

Speaker 5 Yeah. And as it should, like messing around with somebody's family member or family friend, like that's fucked up.

Speaker 4 You know?

Speaker 5 Yeah. It's specific.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 8 There's too many people in the world to be texting and talking to or venting to your feelings to that it doesn't and you pick the one person right it's just it's messy it's i mean the fact that like he doesn't want to even be part of the show anymore because like he tells it's getting out exactly right like that all of it's true guilty as yeah that you don't if it wasn't true he'd do what jesse's doing and come out and be like let's take a lie detector test i want to prove to all of you.

Speaker 8 Read my text messages. That's not true.
That's not what happens.

Speaker 4 He's like, I don't want to be reported. I'm not filming.

Speaker 7 What do you think he was thinking? Like, are there none?

Speaker 14 I think his dick was thinking.

Speaker 4 Yeah. I think he was thinking.
Yeah, but still, even like... Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 7 Even your dick sometimes knows this is a bad idea.

Speaker 14 I don't know.

Speaker 14 I think that she probably sent him some pictures and he wasn't going to say, hey, no, don't send me sexy pictures.

Speaker 4 And then I definitely think she is the one who started this.

Speaker 8 I think Dakota doesn't have the like guts to go after Leanne's friend. I think he would be like way too scared to make the first move.

Speaker 8 And I think she definitely came for him first. And he was like, oh.

Speaker 7 I think he played like you guys would be blown away by some of the unsolicited nudes I've been sent in the past by people. Like sometimes you just don't ask for them.

Speaker 4 You don't want them.

Speaker 8 He clearly entertained them.

Speaker 7 Nope.

Speaker 4 He did. Oh, he did.

Speaker 7 I'm just saying, but what I'm saying is, you can, you can ignore a nude.

Speaker 4 You know, and I dodging bullets. What do you

Speaker 8 just delete it?

Speaker 7 You just don't respond.

Speaker 15 Well, it doesn't show them anymore, right? Doesn't it like blur them? Like, doesn't Instagram DMs blur nudes now?

Speaker 7 I don't know.

Speaker 4 This was a long, long time ago. Tell me.

Speaker 8 I don't know. I haven't gotten any of my DMs.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 I could not verify that.

Speaker 7 I'm just saying, like, you can, you can ignore a nude.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 6 I believe you.

Speaker 7 And I think all, if he, but you have to just literally ignore it. You can't respond because like any.

Speaker 8 Here's Nick's tip of the day, everybody. You can ignore a nude.

Speaker 4 You can ignore a nude.

Speaker 14 In case you were wondering, you can, in fact, ignore those nudes that you're getting.

Speaker 7 I will say, too, from a, if you, if, if a woman sends a guy a nude and you ignore it, I feel like that's a, it's a pretty aggressive shutdown.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 8 Well, again, he didn't ignore it.

Speaker 4 Yeah. He entertained it.
I think he was like, oh,

Speaker 7 he was like, oh, that's crazy.

Speaker 8 Maybe you should have given him this advice beforehand.

Speaker 5 I believe the note was that he could tell that she was wearing something in the silly.

Speaker 14 I just feel, I feel really bad for Taylor because not only is it like her and her emotions, like she clearly loves him.

Speaker 14 And it's like, now she can't be with him, but it's also like they have this kid together and she loves her. her son, obviously.
And she wants Ever to have a father and a mother who are together.

Speaker 14 And like now Ever's not going to have that. And like she wants the best for her son And her son, like, even Dakota not letting him have his

Speaker 14 blessing. Like, it's going to get in the way of like her son being rich.
You know, it's just, it's hard. It's hard to navigate.

Speaker 11 It's hard to come to terms with.

Speaker 14 And now she really, you know, this is the true end where it's like the option was always still open and now it's closed.

Speaker 5 Dakota also has some responsibility in that too, though.

Speaker 14 No, I'm saying he has all the responsibility, but I'm saying it's very hard for Taylor to like.

Speaker 5 All she asks for is like, don't lie to me.

Speaker 4 Exactly.

Speaker 14 It's just annoying. Like, it's, it's frustrating that he put her in that position.
It's entirely his fault.

Speaker 15 What do we think of Taylor sitting down with Chase at the end?

Speaker 7 That was crazy.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I was like, all I was thinking was like Miranda.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Yeah, Miranda.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 The one that you guys just initiated into Mom Talk officially, like,

Speaker 8 that was potentially a producer's idea before they knew she was going to be bachelorette.

Speaker 7 I'm surprised they even aired.

Speaker 5 I'm surprised they didn't even air.

Speaker 14 They could have cut that. There was a different way to end the show.

Speaker 5 I'm sure there's an alternative ending.

Speaker 8 Because it's giving like, oh, drama into season four. You went on a date with my ex-husband, father of my children.

Speaker 7 Also, it's kind of like not too far removed from like responding to your mom's friends' nudes.

Speaker 7 Like, it's a little too in the family, you know?

Speaker 7 If nothing else, there's just like

Speaker 7 a little too close to home.

Speaker 8 Like, there's just got to be more men in Utah.

Speaker 5 It doesn't feel like it, though.

Speaker 5 I was going to say that I do, the thing I do like about Mormon wives, one of the many, but I'm just like, even there's scandals where I'm like the soft swinging was the most intense one but I'm like one is like I kissed somebody twice the other one is like I'm I Layla dated Chase first and now is dating the brother and it's just like are there more men in Utah Layla dated Chase and like now Taylor sitting down with Chase who's Miranda's you know I'm just like there's just a lot of crossover here that just wouldn't be happening in most friend groups and be

Speaker 4 amicable.

Speaker 15 Taylor even said, I'm going to get in trouble for this one.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Why are you there?

Speaker 14 Well, because I don't think in her defense, I don't think she thought that it was going to go where it went when she sat down there.

Speaker 10 Chase brought up the flirting. Chase brought up the story.

Speaker 14 Chase said it was a date. Chase asked for the kiss.
Chase brought up the feelings.

Speaker 14 That's embarrassing.

Speaker 11 Taylor probably just thought it was like, okay, we're going to try to shoot a scene.

Speaker 14 Mend things here. Yeah.
But it is interesting because we've got a major spoiler alert.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 14 That's not going to go anywhere.

Speaker 4 Doesn't work. Upcoming season of the Bachelor.
Tune Tune in to ABC.

Speaker 5 I was like, oh my God, we were talking about Dakota showing up to the casting. What if it's

Speaker 5 Chase?

Speaker 4 Right. That's going to be crazy.
Right. Continuation from season four.

Speaker 7 What was Whitney's big contribution this season? It felt like she wasn't really.

Speaker 8 To bring Demi and the girls back together.

Speaker 4 She did.

Speaker 7 Do you feel like she did that?

Speaker 4 I feel like...

Speaker 14 Yes, I do.

Speaker 14 She instigated the whole thing. She went to Macy, who she knew would be able to get the girls together, and she convinced her.

Speaker 7 I think she quit.

Speaker 14 who whitney to me or to me well whitney did her best okay whitney went on a full art and i and i thought that her apology and her final speech was very sincere

Speaker 14 and very beautiful i love when they like you know really open up i think she's really grown yeah i mean i think that she's being logical Whitney. Yeah, I think she's being logical.

Speaker 14 Like she was like, I'm not going to like, I'm not going to just brush this off.

Speaker 14 What Demi was saying, she's like, if somebody's saying they were sexually assaulted, I'm not just going to be like, I don't believe you.

Speaker 10 She honestly, to me, was the only person that was reacting to that in a way that was like making sense to me.

Speaker 14 She really wanted to get to the bottom of it. She wanted, she went in first being like, I believe you.

Speaker 14 And then she was just like trying to put the pieces together and it wasn't making sense to her. And she was struggling with the fact that like she was genuinely

Speaker 4 safe.

Speaker 14 Exactly. When she couldn't figure out why the pieces weren't fitting.

Speaker 7 I appreciate Whitney's willingness to listen to Demi because Whitney wasn't there at Vanderpump Villa.

Speaker 7 But I also don't want to criticize the other women for having their doubts, specifically like the Michaela

Speaker 7 and Macy and Jesse and Jenny. All women who have opened up about their own past traumas, you know, when it comes to abuse or assault.
And I think they have some valid.

Speaker 7 questions and doubts as it relates to Demi's story.

Speaker 14 Yeah, no, definitely. Totally.
Yeah, well, because Michaela and Macy, like, they have opened up on this show about, like, I mean, Michaela was six years old when she was sexually abused.

Speaker 14 Like, they have opened up about this. And to them, it's like a very triggering thing.
And it's like, if you're lying about that, that's the biggest

Speaker 7 challenge. And I think the biggest kind of uncomfortable thing about this whole thing is that when the women...

Speaker 7 confront Demi and kind of poke holes in her story, she resorts back to the narrative is there's no perfect victim, which is true.

Speaker 7 And there's no ideal story, but it also, to me, is delivering it in a way where it almost feels like anything I say, you can't doubt because like there is, you know, I can talk to him, I can engage with him, I can do whatever I want.

Speaker 7 And that doesn't discount what happened. And it's like, I can't, you know, it's, it's really hard to like question anything because To your point, like you don't want to not believe people.

Speaker 7 And it's just, I think a lot of people are really uncomfortable with this whole narrative because, because of the potential fallout as it relates to like all kinds of victims.

Speaker 14 I think what Connor said was really like important, where he, he, he said exactly what I feel like I feel about this is like, I want to believe a victim, especially he's a victim himself.

Speaker 14 But like, if you are making an accusation and it's not true, that's not, that it diminishes anybody else who's been a victim and has come forward with it.

Speaker 14 I mean, in general, I do love Connor and Whitney's relationship. I I love that Whitney is like, Connor always wants to hear the tea.
And so like when I come, like...

Speaker 10 They're cute. I want to gab with them.

Speaker 5 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Well, you can't because you're blocking her.

Speaker 14 I, you know what's interesting, though? I took a picture with Connor at Dancing with the Stars, and we had a lovely conversation. And I said, tell your wife I love her.

Speaker 4 Did you know who you were?

Speaker 7 Connor is not Whitney.

Speaker 11 He knew I was with the vile files.

Speaker 10 I love Whitney so much. I'm really sad.
I'm like actively like really sad about it. Like I love her.
She's my fit. She's been my favorite Mormon wife since like the first episode.

Speaker 7 All right.

Speaker 7 Well, I'm sure we will keep talking about this season of the secret lives of Mormon wives as I'm sure there will be drama that unfolds from the internet and these women engaging with each other.

Speaker 7 Southern Charm made its debut last night. I thought it was a fun little goofy episode.
I'm excited about this season. I think my favorite part was when Austin

Speaker 7 was talking about, is he still dating that same girl?

Speaker 4 No, I think he's not.

Speaker 4 Wait, I thought not now. They just broke apart.
It's been enough.

Speaker 7 They did break a card when he was like, my girlfriend, she's like, yeah, she has her own life. I have my own life.
She's miles away. I can actually get things done now.

Speaker 7 It's like, come, please, someone check on this woman. Like, he's describing it.
Fuck, buddy.

Speaker 4 Literally.

Speaker 14 Well, they're not together anymore.

Speaker 4 No.

Speaker 5 It did not work out with Pookie Shmookie.

Speaker 14 I did love the opening scene. where the four men were out to dinner and then it just like kept cutting to them yelling at each other.
Well, we shouldn't be friends anymore.

Speaker 4 Thank God.

Speaker 5 And I love how Southern Charm loves to bury the lead. They're like, here's the ending.
And now you got to watch the entire season to get here.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 8 But also, like, we didn't need to sit through that whole dinner and like listen to them like chit-chat and then, oh, what builds up into the fight?

Speaker 8 Like, yeah, just show us the beats of the fight and then let's move on.

Speaker 4 Right. That's all I needed.

Speaker 8 If you have no idea what we're talking about, we do have a rapid recap of the first episode. of Southern Charm.
Molly cements herself as the coolest girl in the world by feeding her pet snake a mouse.

Speaker 8 I don't feel like that was the coolest girl.

Speaker 1 That's really sad.

Speaker 4 I didn't feel like that.

Speaker 8 She's also low-key a pat rat, and I don't think it's low-key either. I do feel like that was a high-key pack rat.
Madison is super pregnant, but still looking hot.

Speaker 8 Craig feels betrayed because Paige broke up with him and he also doesn't know how to be single. Shep is still himself, but his age range has increased to 28.
Growth.

Speaker 8 Austin is mad about Craig no longer being sober after being mad that he was sober. Sally and Vanita are besties now and bonded over how annoying JT is.
He blocked and ghosted Vanita after the reunion.

Speaker 8 Also, Vanita thinks Craig is a bitch. She said it on the vowel files.
So Craig hates her. Craig and Sally both think the other is hot, but as Sally is besties with Vanita, that complicates things.

Speaker 8 Molly was flirting with Corey, Craig's friend, who is a douche, but also hot. And then he was kind of mean to her when she was drunk and she was sad that she skipped her band concert.

Speaker 8 Sally and Vanita's friendship is already on the outs as she wants to talk to Craig and Vanita storms out of Madison's baby shower. Overall, this season looks tea.

Speaker 8 That was a fast friendship. I do feel like we saw

Speaker 8 the highest of highs of Sally and Vanita and then how quickly a male's attention can just rip things apart.

Speaker 7 Is that like the main storyline, the love triangle between I mean, I'm fine with Vanita

Speaker 7 being Team Page, but it doesn't make sense for Vanita to have some sort of like vendetta against Craig.

Speaker 8 Well, it's because Craig went on Watch What Happens Live and was like, I don't fuck with her and she'll never be my friend again.

Speaker 5 Okay.

Speaker 5 And they never had a conversation about it the first time she heard that was on Watch What Happens Live.

Speaker 5 So Vanita has every right to be like, the butt.

Speaker 5 Or like, I'm not going to be the one to go up to talk to him at a baby shower and cause the big scene that we know is going to end up happening inevitably.

Speaker 14 We kind of stirred the pot a little bit because Vanita came on our show and called Craig a bitch. And then he went on watch what happens live and said he doesn't fuck with her.

Speaker 10 I am glad that was one of the episodes I did, like, try to look crazy.

Speaker 7 Yeah, she did call him a bitch.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Well, he

Speaker 4 was being a little bit

Speaker 4 of a problem.

Speaker 11 I said, oh,

Speaker 4 you did.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 7 There's a question I have for Vanita. How was Craig making it seem like Paige was unfaithful?

Speaker 5 By not saying that.

Speaker 7 But no, no, no. But he has to actually do something.

Speaker 7 You can't do something by not doing something.

Speaker 14 Yeah, you can.

Speaker 5 Yeah, you can. He was being asked questions.

Speaker 4 But I'm saying,

Speaker 7 that was kind of my point, though.

Speaker 7 But if all he was doing is not say anything, because again, Paige was the one who broke up with Craig out of nowhere and then weeks later was publicly seen with someone who then became her boyfriend.

Speaker 7 What do you want Craig to think? What if Craig doesn't know?

Speaker 8 We did have Craig putting out his, like, we broke up reel or story or whatever that was. And in that story, he was like, There was no change.

Speaker 8 There was no this.

Speaker 4 Like, he did clarify that in that one video.

Speaker 8 So, I guess to Craig's defense, he's like, I'm not going to continue to go out of my way to like have this person's back who did just betray me. And, like,

Speaker 7 and

Speaker 7 cause speculation.

Speaker 10 And I'm just wondering what craig did outside of not saying anything that implied that paige did something wrong well he didn't say anything that's literally that's what he did i think craig really played the victim card hard even though obviously a breakup takes two people like i think craig was just like my feelings were hurt

Speaker 4 but he has the right to have

Speaker 10 the right yeah that's fine i'm just saying i think venita's thing was that like he was really leaning into it how is

Speaker 7 that

Speaker 7 That's kind of my point. The internet demanded Craig come to Paige's defense.

Speaker 7 And he opted to be like, nah, I'm like, that's not my problem anymore. She's not my girlfriend.

Speaker 15 Nick, the answer to your question is on a platform like Watch What Happens Live, no answer is an answer.

Speaker 15 So I think like that's where he was asked questions where he had the chance to just say it for the ones and move on.

Speaker 14 Sometimes no answer is an answer. And in this case, it was.

Speaker 7 If three weeks after a breakup that caught you off guard and

Speaker 7 that person is then singing canoodling with someone else, and granted, it could have just been like right after the breakup. And that's fair and that people have a right to do that.

Speaker 7 But like, again, if you get broken up with out of the blue and the and you're heartbroken and then your ex is immediately dating weeks later, you're going to start asking questions.

Speaker 7 You're going to be like, wait, was it really a clean break? Usually there's like a mourning process. Even when you break up with a relationship, you're sad.

Speaker 15 I mean, wasn't also like Austin or Shep also going on Watch What Happens Live, insinuating that Paige was like cheated? Like, I feel like it was more than just Craig, but also his friends.

Speaker 8 But then you had all of Paige's friends going on Watch What Happens Live and being like, he's doing all this for attention. He's doing all this to like, he's playing the victim.
He's this. He's that.

Speaker 8 He's a little baby back bitch. And then you have Craig being like, I didn't eat.
or sleep for weeks. He's like, I was actually heartbroken.
Like, what was I doing for attention? Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 8 So, like, everyone's friends were coming after the other person.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 10 I think we need a joint Southern Charm and Summerhouse where you

Speaker 10 can see what happens.

Speaker 7 I mean, I'm assuming we're going to move on of this topic going forward. I feel like it got rehashed.
It's episode one. They're kind of like bringing us up to speed of all the things that happened.

Speaker 7 But I honestly like hope we move on.

Speaker 5 Well, yeah, we're going to watch Craig navigate being single and all the girlies in

Speaker 4 South Carolina are losing their minds about it.

Speaker 15 The show's going to perform better with Craig single.

Speaker 4 Oh, totally.

Speaker 10 I'm way more invested with this, with Craig being single.

Speaker 5 Freaking BravoCon. I swear to God, it was like the Beatles were walking through.
It was just like a sea of women stampeding to just try to get a photo or be next to him.

Speaker 4 And I was like, oh, he was

Speaker 4 king's shirt, bro.

Speaker 5 You know, he made Captain Jason this year look like, nah, was he even there?

Speaker 4 Yeah. Nope.

Speaker 5 Because Craig was in the building.

Speaker 10 Molly is my favorite. I want to be best friends with Molly.
I love that girl.

Speaker 4 I do love Molly. I love her.
The hoarding, though? No, the hoarding.

Speaker 4 It's a little...

Speaker 8 listen she moved into a smaller space she doesn't get rid of it when you move

Speaker 8 rid of it you don't move everything

Speaker 7 into your new place you get rid of it as you're packing you're like oh i don't need these shoes that i haven't worn since the 12th grade like let me get rid of it also where do we land on as an adult joining like clubs and teams that like are typically reserved for like high school

Speaker 4 i think that molly

Speaker 4 have a hobby okay hold on and everyone in the group is is an opportunity. I was asking, did you guys see the oldest?

Speaker 7 Did you guys see Bill Belichick's girlfriend in her adult cheerleading team?

Speaker 10 I think that it's beautiful when somebody has a passion and wants to be aware of that.

Speaker 8 I think that that is showing that she is every bit of the 22 that she is.

Speaker 8 And if I were doing things like that when I met Nick, I would 100% understand why he didn't want to date me because maybe I'm not as old soul as I like to think that I am.

Speaker 7 Listen, follow your passions, but yeah, I'm not coming to your cheer.

Speaker 10 To get back to Molly, though, she's in like a like symphony, orchestra.

Speaker 4 That is a little different. She's playing an instrument.

Speaker 15 People play instruments professionally.

Speaker 4 It was a little different. It was definitely different.

Speaker 10 A love of music makes you warm of heart.

Speaker 8 I feel like she's the youngest, maybe, of the group.

Speaker 7 What are we talking about?

Speaker 4 Molly.

Speaker 8 And I did feel like Corey just being everything that came out of his mouth. made me so nauseous and sick to my stomach.
Well, when I come to your place tonight, he's so cheesy.

Speaker 4 Also, he doesn't want to go to her place.

Speaker 5 you can touch my snake that's just what i'm saying feels so bad though because i was like you know that molly just like loved the attention she was a little tipsy but i was just like he's not the one run from him but when she started crying because she felt bad that she met mr band concert it like it like hit something in me as a band kid i was gonna say he wasn't being mean i think for him it was like that was the ultimate turn off yeah yeah you could tell the second she started crying he was like ah yeah he's like wait she's actually a nerd and i'm like yes let her be that's beautiful which we do love I do love that Molly is authentically herself.

Speaker 5 Yes.

Speaker 7 Southern Charm has a new member in its cast, Charlie Manley. And we have her up next to get to know her and ask what we can expect from her and the rest of the cast this season.

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Speaker 7 Charlie, welcome to the show. How are you doing?

Speaker 16 I'm doing good. How are y'all?

Speaker 4 We're great.

Speaker 7 Well, we're excited to see how things kick off with Southern Charm. We watched the first episode last night.

Speaker 7 It was fun.

Speaker 4 It was a fun episode. It was a fun episode.

Speaker 8 The preview looked very good for the upcoming season.

Speaker 16 So I know. I can't really speak much on the first episode because I obviously wasn't involved in that one.
But yeah.

Speaker 7 Well, as a new member of Southern Charm, I guess let's just start with like, how did you become a part of this cast?

Speaker 7 And what does it feel like to join a show like Southern Charm that's obviously been around for a long time and it has, you know, some pretty established characters.

Speaker 16 Yeah. So I'm, I've been in Charleston for almost six years now.
I'm from like a really small town in the upstate of South Carolina. So like I grew up up in and around Charleston too

Speaker 16 Charleston is such a small town. So I've known all of these people pretty like or known of them like run in the same circles for the past couple of years.

Speaker 16 They're definitely like big characters, big personalities. But I became really close friends with Sally, like who's who's in the friend group.
And

Speaker 16 Yeah, just like through her was introduced and became closer to the other people in the group. So, I mean, they're definitely an intimidating bunch.
They, they've been friends for a long time.

Speaker 16 You know, most of them like are a little bit older than I am, but I mean, they're, they're great.

Speaker 8 And I guess, how quickly did you expect you and Sally's friendship to crumble as soon as you came onto the show?

Speaker 16 Yeah, that was like, I mean, pretty, pretty crazy. It's not like, it's not crumbling.
Like I would say, it's just friends fight, like they do.

Speaker 16 And we have, we really really have only been friends for a little over a year now but whenever we started hanging out we became so close very fast um so i do i feel like i i see her as more of like a sister and we fight like sisters for sure um introducing other people to like have an opinion on our fights is definitely definitely new but yeah So who is, who is Charlie Manley?

Speaker 7 And why should, and I'm assuming they should, but like, and I don't want to doubt you, but why should Bravo fans rally around you? And, and who is a Charlie fan?

Speaker 16 Man, I don't, I mean,

Speaker 16 I,

Speaker 16 it sounds like cliche, but I really am like a small town girl from South Carolina. Like, I mean,

Speaker 16 I

Speaker 16 an art gallery in Charleston. I've been there for about three years now.
I love it. Like, Charleston is my home.
My entire family is still in my hometown hometown three hours away.

Speaker 16 Like I was just there yesterday. Like

Speaker 16 I hope that people will find me endearing.

Speaker 16 I also know I'm like a super confrontational person, which is why this process was like a little difficult for me, but it's definitely helped me like come out of my show more.

Speaker 8 And what was like your, obviously we see that you and Craig have a little moment. I don't know how long it lasts.

Speaker 8 I don't know if it's still currently going on today, but what was your impression of Craig going into the show?

Speaker 16 I've never like watched Southern Charm, but I have like watched Summerhouse in the past. So I knew vaguely the ins and outs of, I mean, what was put on television of him and his last relationship.

Speaker 16 And I mean, I guess getting to know him like around Charleston, he seemed like a really nice, friendly guy.

Speaker 16 Whenever I first started hanging out like with the group, I do feel like the two of us gravitated towards each other. I think that we have a lot in common.
Yeah, I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 16 Our personalities just kind of like matched whenever we were together, but there is, I mean, a lot of fodder online about him and who he is as a person.

Speaker 16 But I wanted to make that like an opinion for myself.

Speaker 7 So, did you have any opinion on whether we were just debating this?

Speaker 4 Um,

Speaker 7 I, I love them both, but I just don't feel like Craig was responsible for clearing Paige's name once they broke up because, like, I don't know, he seemed like genuinely heartbroken.

Speaker 7 And she was out there like publicly being,

Speaker 7 you know around people which she's allowed to do but it also caused speculation but you know vinita your cast member spoke very uh strongly about his her opinion about how craig should handle himself i was just curious if as an outsider coming into this group if you had any opinions about that whole dilemma yeah i mean

Speaker 3 i think that i was obviously like trying to form my own opinions like on Craig outside of his breakup.

Speaker 3 I actually, like before hanging out with this group, like had just gotten out of a three and a half, almost four year breakup. And I feel like that's kind of how Craig and I really bonded.

Speaker 3 So in terms of him having to, you know, speak about his ex or like defend his ex after their breakup, I definitely understood where he was coming from because once I was broken up with my ex, like, I'm done.

Speaker 3 Like, I'm like, no, like, I'm not, I don't want anything to do. Like in the best way possible, like, I don't want anything to do with you anymore.
So like, I understand where he was coming from.

Speaker 3 But I, I get, I see the other side too. But I think that I, in that moment, understood his side way more.

Speaker 8 Who is the most intimidating cast member to film with or to just be around?

Speaker 8 Probably like it's Maddie.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Honestly, she is so sweet. I would say that she's probably the person that I know least like in this friend group right now.

Speaker 3 Just because I mean this entire summer, she's growing her family, like moving into a new house, like whatever.

Speaker 3 I do think that like we'll get to know each other more in the future, and I'm excited about it. But she's really intimidating for sure.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I feel like I get the vibe from her.

Speaker 7 What can we expect? I mean, I know you don't, we don't want you to spoil anything or give anything away, but what

Speaker 7 can we expect this season as a whole from the cast itself and specifically from you? Like, what

Speaker 7 can you tease in terms of like your involvement in this season?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 3 this season really is exactly like how life normally is in Charleston. I mean, for the most part, like the entire cast is single.
Charleston's a very incestual place. Like everyone's dating everybody.

Speaker 3 And it's just like that in this friend group too. And then navigating friendships too.
I mean, that's something that I mean, I wasn't expecting to do, like, I don't know, like on this scale, but yeah.

Speaker 7 I got it. I was watching it.
I

Speaker 7 bought my first house when I was started to date my wife. And so when I bought the house, now they moved in.
And on, on, on one side, I was like, oh, thank God I have someone to share this house with.

Speaker 4 It was, it was great.

Speaker 7 On the flip, I mean, on the flip side, I, you know, Craig is a single man now, and he's a homeowner. And now he's a guy with a little bit of cash, a little bit of money.

Speaker 8 Nick wishes he had his

Speaker 4 Saturdays, you know, in his house.

Speaker 7 I think Craig's going to really clean up in his fuckboy era, being like a homeowner.

Speaker 7 That patio, you know, it's one thing to be like, come back to my place and it's, and it's a dirty apartment with no sheets or something. I don't, I don't know.

Speaker 7 But like, it's another thing when he's like, all right, I got this nice backyard.

Speaker 4 No, it's a nice house.

Speaker 3 He's a, he's a really successful, successful guy. And like, he knows what he wants.
He just like, it just might take him a minute to get there, you know?

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 8 What about, what are your opinions on Shep?

Speaker 3 Oh my gosh, I love Shep, but in like a older brother way.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 4 But I love him.

Speaker 6 I love Shep before 2 a.m.

Speaker 10 Love him.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 7 You know, we need maybe like a home

Speaker 7 makeover episode where the ladies of Southern Chime come into his apartment and maybe suggest that he takes the.

Speaker 8 I think he said he moved.

Speaker 4 Did he?

Speaker 7 Did he still have the baseball caps in his living room?

Speaker 3 I'm sure he does. I mean, he's on, he's on a different house.
Like, he's in a different house now, but I'm sure it's the same decor.

Speaker 4 Man cave.

Speaker 16 He hasn't had a housewarming party yet. We'll see.

Speaker 8 Season, the next season for sure.

Speaker 4 Oh, my God.

Speaker 7 Well, Charlie, it was great just kind of getting to know you. And we're excited to watch you this season and

Speaker 7 hopefully come back, you know, as the drama unfolds. We'll see if

Speaker 7 you need a platform to speak your piece and really, you know, if you don't like what you saw

Speaker 7 and you want to get the word out on the street, think of us. We're here for you.

Speaker 8 Last question. Did you...

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 8 Were you nervous at all seeing the first episode and seeing that our interview with Vanita was in it and was a little bit part of the drama. Did that make you like a little bit nervous to come on?

Speaker 3 No, I mean, if anything, I feel like it made me more excited. Like I do feel like a lot of times, you know, things might not come out the way that you expect them to or not everything is shown and

Speaker 3 you want to explain it a little bit better. So I get it.
I loved it.

Speaker 4 Okay, great.

Speaker 8 We'll come back when you got to explain something a little bit better.

Speaker 7 Charlie, we appreciate you taking the time. Congratulations for being a part of the cast of Southern Charm.
We're excited to see how your journey unfolds this season.

Speaker 7 Happy holidays, and we appreciate you taking the time.

Speaker 4 Yeah, absolutely. Thanks for having me.
Thanks, Charlie. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Well, she seems nice. She seems fun.
Certainly, like

Speaker 7 an eligible lady for Craig and the other boys to potentially fight over.

Speaker 8 Yes, absolutely. Which is honestly.

Speaker 4 That's all we really need. That's all we really need.

Speaker 4 All right.

Speaker 7 Well, up next, let's get into some Real Housewives of OC Reunion Part 3. And then Leanne Morgan.
You guys are not going to want to miss this interview. I'm sure you know who she is.

Speaker 7 Has hilarious comedian. So funny.

Speaker 7 Her star is rising. She sits down with me, me and Natalie.
It was a ton of fun to chat with her. So we'll get to that in a moment.
But we do have finally part three of The Real Housewives of OC.

Speaker 7 And it didn't disappoint.

Speaker 5 I don't even know how side I'm on, to be completely honest. It's like there's just so much information flying by.
Like, do I think Tamara Judge is AI making up posts to do things to Gretchen?

Speaker 5 I don't think that Tamara has the time or the energy. But then I'm also kind of like, there's things that have been around that, that have, have said that these posts have been around for years.

Speaker 5 I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 7 What I needed to hear was that Gretchen follows 4,500 people. And at that point, I was like, okay, well, like, let's not, you know, when you follow that many accounts, you don't know who you follow.

Speaker 7 And you've been following, you're just, you're, you're pretty liberal with the following.

Speaker 10 Like to Andy said, like, she's she's not seeing 4500 posts on her feed so like I do believe that Gretchen probably saw a post that was like John 316 or some shit and then like followed it because she loves God and then it turned out post dark posts

Speaker 4 also yeah just

Speaker 5 Andy seemed genuinely annoyed with Tamra I Andy seemed frustrated with this storyline I think just like frustrated with where all of this is coming from because I mean Tamra does make a good point she's been on the show for 15 years like why now all of a sudden when her arch nemesis comes back that all of a sudden she's a security breach and is leaking storylines and not even like leaking storylines we're talking like every detail of a season and i'm like blaming slade but then slade wasn't around or like didn't know that she was going to be on the show of it all definitely felt like a cop out you know where it's like don't put your fingers at me look at slade So that's why it was so hard to follow her.

Speaker 10 Slade's not here.

Speaker 5 But it felt like when some, like when Tamara would start making a good point, then she would say something and you're like, oh, fuck.

Speaker 5 And then when Gretchen would start making a good point, then she would say something and you're like, well, Tamara couldn't do that. Like, you know?

Speaker 7 You know, we love Tamara. Tamara wants to come back on the show.
Hopefully, Peacock Bravo will let her.

Speaker 7 But I do have to say, like, if that's your best defense, it's not a very good one. Yeah.
And I think we have a rapid recap to kick things off.

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Let's get to those damn Instagram posts. Gretchen made it clear that she's just like Valentina, an ally.

Speaker 8 However, she admits,

Speaker 4 who's Valentina? It's

Speaker 4 TikTok sound.

Speaker 4 Valentina, say ally. Ally.
Ally.

Speaker 8 Can you put like in like parentheses like where these are coming from or like say in this accent?

Speaker 4 Because otherwise I'm just going to read it and then it comes along and then not in the game.

Speaker 5 It was actually funnier because you said it in a straight tone and then it like played in my head.

Speaker 4 It's kind of like

Speaker 4 an a lie.

Speaker 8 However, she admits she could have liked stuff in the middle of the night that she didn't read. Tamara claimed Gretchen unfollowed all the hate accounts after she got back from Amsterdam.

Speaker 8 Gretchen said, yes, she did. And it made her realize that she needed to go through the accounts she followed.

Speaker 8 Heather acknowledged that Gretchen has always been kind to her and her beautiful queer family, but she low-key has heard that Gretchen was sus.

Speaker 8 But apparently Gretchen hired a cyber analysis company she spent thousands of dollars it claims that the worst post never existed it was ai and also tied to tamara gina apologizing for ambushing gretchen tamara claims she never was an asshole to emily even though she called her shrek and then said she wasn't successful unless she was on her podcast network and then omg there were unreleased scenes gina couldn't find the receipts about the posts and felt bad gretchen cries then we got to the camera pickups katie is gagged tamara thinks it's an ambush tamara claimed she never talked to bloggers except just being nice.

Speaker 8 Everyone does that. Katie said, This is true, LOL.
But the smoking gun, the blogger knew Shannon was mad she didn't get invited to upfront tea.

Speaker 8 According to Tamara, Slade was working overtime and she swears on her children's life that she didn't do it. No one really believed her.
Andy is like, what?

Speaker 8 Heather then went on a gorgeous monologue to say, stop playing Survivor. This is Housewives.
It's too meta. Everyone stop.

Speaker 8 Oh, also, to close the Heather Improv Saga, Gina admitted she finds Heather funny. Love wins.

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Speaker 7 Offer only validated with new Factor customers with code and qualifying auto-renewance subscription purchase. I thought, yeah, Heather was fantastic in this episode.

Speaker 7 I mean, she really said all the right things, which is like, it's gotten weird. Like, why has it gotten so dark? Why isn't it just like us bickering about our lives?

Speaker 5 The fact that Tamara couldn't understand where Emily was coming from was like, you put Gina in a bad position, as Heather literally says, you sent me that information and I texted you back saying, I want zero part in this.

Speaker 5 So why did you go to somebody else instead of you yourself going to Gretchen being like, this is what's going on?

Speaker 8 And then seeing the unreleased footage at the cake baking night at Tamara's house where Tamara tries to bring it up again and heather like realizes what she's doing and she's like nope i told you i'm not doing this and she gets up and walks away it's like so wild to see that these women know like her plan know that like she's about to drop something off so that one of them will get super mad about it and bring it up the next time they see her and and tamara doesn't have to do all the work

Speaker 10 well yeah and it's just like icky because

Speaker 10 The accusations that Tamara is making about Gretchen are like super serious. Like this is like fucked up shit that Gretchen is allegedly liking and saying.

Speaker 10 And like, but the problem is, it's like, whether or not that's true, like it doesn't matter because that's not what, like, you're not bringing this up because you care.

Speaker 10 You're bringing this up because you want to go tit for tat. And that's what Heather is saying.
And Heather's like, listen, I am like the one that is like.

Speaker 10 actively like me and my family are like the people that are actively affected by these things and i don't want to talk about this because i know what you're doing so it's just like why and again like like, and a question I would love to ask Tamara is that the timing of why?

Speaker 5 Like the beginning of this season was getting everybody against Katie for being a liar and saying all these things. But I'm like, if you've been sitting on having Gretchen's post for two years,

Speaker 5 why would we wait until the very end to bring this up? Versus, like, that should have been something A, brought to Heather. And if Heather says she doesn't want to talk about it, then

Speaker 5 we can be discussed off camera. Yeah.

Speaker 4 But it's like, it was a weird, it's because that's a really personal thing. Also,

Speaker 8 Tamara being like, I didn't, I forgot all about it until I saw Gretchen and she like joined our group and it all just felt like

Speaker 8 very performative. I don't know.

Speaker 5 And that's what's so weird is because Tamara's also the one that brought up the naked wasted rumors and everything going on and the kiki monique of it.

Speaker 5 Also, it's just kind of like you put yourself in this position because she said during this reunion. When they were like, it's a bad look what you're doing to Gretchen.

Speaker 5 And she's like, yeah, it's a bad look to be accused of being drunk. And I'm like, you're the one that brought this to the forefront.
Right.

Speaker 4 Right.

Speaker 4 So I'll say that.

Speaker 7 And then Tamara's only defense is like, she's never done this before. But like, Gretson's been off for so long.
And this is the first time in a long time that Gretchen's back.

Speaker 7 And maybe it just like instigated something in Tamara that made her do something she's never done before.

Speaker 8 And also like

Speaker 8 the way that that man was phrasing the things that he knew about the season sounded so from Tamra's mouth. The like,

Speaker 8 Tamara had a confrontation with Slade and Gretchen, but she took the high road and she walked away. Like Slade isn't saying that.

Speaker 7 That's not coming from Slade.

Speaker 8 That's not coming from Gretchen. No one's going to say Tamara took a high road besides Tamara.

Speaker 15 I don't know. I'll give her like 2% of the benefit of the doubt that any blogger could like do that.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 15 Like bloggers will jump at any moment to be like, well, I was talking to so-and-so and like they said this. And like we see everything unfolds on the internet.

Speaker 8 Again, but they wouldn't have known anything that happened unless someone from the inside told them and no one else from that group, no Gretchen, no Gina, no Katie, would have framed that sentence in that way.

Speaker 7 Justin, do you think a blogger would be savvy enough to get some tea and then reframe the tea so that it looked like it potentially came from a housewife that is 100%.

Speaker 15 If that gives them a potential kiki monique moment, 100%. Like, I think we've had bloggers on these shows before, like, say things in a way to like make it a storyline so that then now, look at it.

Speaker 15 They've been in two minutes of OC in a finale and now they're talked about on the reunion but this person isn't even

Speaker 15 mentioned by name no one knows who this person is so they're not but people want their two seconds of like exposure with the shows they love so like i think they like the two percent of me is like there is a world where i mean we know half the storylines by the time the show or yairs i think what's really what really stands out to me is the whole like shannon being upset about up fronts because like that wasn't something like that's it wasn't even on the season that wasn't on the season that wasn't even something that would have been a storyline between them that happened.

Speaker 8 They just happened to have cameras rolling. So do you think it's like someone in crew?

Speaker 5 But that's the other thing, too, where I was like, the call is absolutely coming from inside the house. But I'm like, why are we acting like that?

Speaker 5 There's not an entire group of people that are not on camera that could also be having these conversations that do know everything.

Speaker 5 I'm not saying like, I don't want to like blame production, but I'm just saying that I'm like, I do feel bad for Tamara in a way that I'm just like for her professional career. This is what she does.

Speaker 4 It is true. And the thing is, out of her course, she's a friend of mine.

Speaker 7 There are hundreds of people who work on them. Like back in, you know, like Bachelor franchise, there's always been like spoilers and things like that.

Speaker 7 And spoilers were always kind of a bigger deal then because it was like, are they engaged? Who's dating? Things like that. It's a little different than like, say, like housewife storylines.

Speaker 4 Right.

Speaker 7 And it would never come from cast. You know, like a lot of people, like you have an art department, you have sound.
There's like hundreds of people that kind of like

Speaker 7 work in the shadows. They're behind the scenes.
They're like, you don't really notice that they're even there. And some of them are big fucking fans.
Like,

Speaker 7 I mean, Nellie and I have worked on shows where you find out that someone like infiltrates and you realize that they're just a die-hard fan. It's like that stuff happens.

Speaker 7 Uh, there's PAs, and those clothes, those are often the leaks.

Speaker 5 I was gonna say, even temporary people that are just like working on this season, but maybe just work through the network, but not actually like dedicated to a show. Hair and makeup loves to gossip.

Speaker 5 I'm just like, there's so many people that are also closely knit to these people that could very well have been there Yeah I just

Speaker 15 I just think back to how like I knew Lindsey Hubbard was pregnant like way before it was even like in the blog We thought you were crazy for that when you said it's like people notice things and you see things online and it's like even fans that are at these events like that didn't sign releases like they're like in the background saying who knows what to who overhearing things even as the the video of Shep freaking out in the in the lobby of a hotel where it's like he doesn't know he's being recorded and someone's recording him saying that Paige and Craig's relationship was a sham and like they didn't sign a release to not like release that or talk about it.

Speaker 4 Exactly. So I'm like, I think people.

Speaker 7 I mean, it definitely could be production or, you know, someone setting up Tamara.

Speaker 5 Someone who worked on the show that's a fan of the show and was like, oh my God, let me tell you everything that I heard.

Speaker 7 I think both could be a little true. I think Tamara could be behind some of the Gretchen accusations in a way that's like a little messy and a little dirty and wrong.

Speaker 7 Like the screenshot stuff, it's like, oh, all you can find is a screenshot.

Speaker 7 I could see a world, and this is total speculation. This is me just like fan theory.
But, like, yeah, I could see production being like, that's kind of fucked. And like, almost like, you know what?

Speaker 7 Let's, let's change the narrative. Cause I think like, again, Andy seemed irritated.
He seemed like he was defending Gretchen.

Speaker 7 Like, it's kind of a very icky scandal to like, again, as Shannon said, like, it's potentially life-ruining. Right.
So I think there's a bit of a misdirect here.

Speaker 7 We end the season with Shannon getting most of the heat. Like, in a way, way, without really stating it, there was a little bit of like the focus really shockingly wasn't on Gretchen this episode.

Speaker 7 You know what I'm saying? It was more on Tamra.

Speaker 7 And I think without absolving Gretchen, because like no one really knows where this came from, so there's no like clear, like, well, you, you've been absolved. I think it's, it kind of makes sense.

Speaker 7 It kind of makes sense. The production was like, let's take the light off of this very dark accusation and let's make it about leaking storylines.

Speaker 7 And that kind of makes sense.

Speaker 5 Because it also did kind of make the like end of it. That's what I said where I was like, I don't really know where I leave on this reunion.

Speaker 5 I don't know who I believe or what I believe, but it's like at the end of the day, I'm not like bogged down with like, oh my God, that was so dark. How are we going to come back next season?

Speaker 5 I'm like, I'm ready for next season.

Speaker 10 I'm ready to like move on from it. It's just like confusing, and I'm ready to move on.
I think that's what.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 7 bring on Vicki Gundelson.

Speaker 4 Gundwilson. Gunwilson.
You're going to have to learn how to say her name.

Speaker 7 We are excited for her return.

Speaker 5 Yes, she's not going to put up with any of this, just so we know.

Speaker 4 Oh,

Speaker 5 the queen is going to covet.

Speaker 4 Huh? I said, I can't wait. Oh, no.

Speaker 4 I want to get her in this studio.

Speaker 7 Yes, yes.

Speaker 7 Why was she taking her?

Speaker 4 You got to get her a Chinese chicken salad when she comes.

Speaker 10 I don't know that she.

Speaker 9 Justin?

Speaker 7 She was definitely put on pause.

Speaker 5 She was definitely put on pause, but...

Speaker 10 Wasn't she, she was a friend last season, like last season, right? Of Shannon occasionally.

Speaker 7 All I'm saying is she's wanted this for a while now.

Speaker 15 and from what i've heard from you know like her not being a part of this franchise is is not from vicky's doing like she was put on pause she was like i don't know but like i was just curious if anyone knew why i mean i do know that like vicky has done some interviews even like the the housewife one or the reality tv one where she has like she has a complicated relationship with the network because that was post it was post but like because she filmed events of her life that she regretted filming and then also like i think at one point she was a friend of but wanted to be full-time, maybe.

Speaker 15 And then ultimately, she just didn't return.

Speaker 7 She went a little rogue.

Speaker 15 I don't know if rogue is the right word because she did the interviews when she wasn't on Bravo. So, like, I don't know.

Speaker 4 I think it's complicated.

Speaker 15 I think there's a back and forth between the network and her. And I think they just finally reached like an agreement where they respect each other.

Speaker 5 And then I know she didn't come back too with like Tamara was gone as well, but she was featured in last season.

Speaker 4 Yeah, because she was Shannon Teresa. With the Alexis.

Speaker 15 I just, I think they did the right choice because she literally created, like, she started Housewives.

Speaker 5 Housewives started with ocean and she was the original cast that's incredible no and 20 years of housewives 20 years of housewives all in all good season yeah she was demoted from full-time cast member to a friend in 2019 then left the show entirely in 2020 uh the network's decision was based on a desire to freshen up the show often referred to as bringing in newer blood so they didn't ask her back and then she was just like i'm not coming back well then she came that's what i was saying it was a back and forth yeah yeah well she's back now and we're excited all right it's time to laugh we got leanne morgan uh if you don't know who she is well, you've been living under a rock.

Speaker 7 And if you do, I know you're very excited to hear this interview. She's hilarious.
We love her. Enjoy yourself.

Speaker 8 Leanne Morgan, welcome to the show.

Speaker 4 Thank you for having me.

Speaker 7 We go way back.

Speaker 7 And by we, I mean.

Speaker 8 We. With you.

Speaker 7 I don't know. I started this show in 2019.
I don't know when your first special came out.

Speaker 13 April 2023. There was one before that, but I don't like my hair color.
That was on Drive Bar, a Drive Bar special. The Netflix was in 2023.

Speaker 7 Maybe it seems like so long ago, because we've wanted you on for so long, it just seems like we couldn't get you fast enough.

Speaker 7 But I remember when my wife called me, she was, I think, visiting your sister.

Speaker 8 I was. I was in Savannah visiting my sister.

Speaker 7 She doesn't know. She rarely does this.
And she was like, you must get Leon Morgan on.

Speaker 8 We had just finished your special and we were in her bed, kicking our feet, giggling. And I was like, we need her on the show.

Speaker 4 We got to get her.

Speaker 7 And then I tuned it on. I'm like,

Speaker 7 you made me laugh too. Thank you.
And I don't even know if I'm your target demo.

Speaker 4 You are.

Speaker 13 I do have a lot of women, but now that I have a television series, I've gotten a lot more men because

Speaker 4 you're my television series. You're like, your star is blowing up.
Well,

Speaker 13 I don't feel like it. No.
No. I mean, I'm busy and I'm tired and I get to do a lot of nifty things, but I still go home and start putting in a load of wash.

Speaker 4 I'm a grandmother.

Speaker 13 So I'm, you know, taking care. I want to take care of your baby.
You know,

Speaker 13 I want to talk to y'all, but I'd also want to take care of that baby.

Speaker 4 Right.

Speaker 13 So I'm still in grandma mind.

Speaker 8 Are you having so much fun being a grandma?

Speaker 13 I don't even know. I mean, y'all won't know until you have one.

Speaker 13 And I'm in love with my children. It's a different love.
It's a different kind of love. It's not better.
It's not, it's a different kind, and it is magical. I know.
It's magical.

Speaker 8 I gave my mom mom her first.

Speaker 8 And so, therefore, I think I'm the favorite child.

Speaker 4 Is your son who gave you your two? Is he your favorite right now?

Speaker 13 Yeah. Yeah.
Well, but these girls, God love these girls. They tend to me and take care of, girls take care of you.
But that boy was my first yummy, be cute in his pants like this one.

Speaker 4 Sweet spirit. I love him.
Sweet spirit.

Speaker 13 Uh-huh. I can tell he's a sweet spirit.
Yeah. And yeah, he had these two babies and they want more.

Speaker 13 and but my daughters are aunts and loony i mean we're all loony and i just sit and look for toys

Speaker 8 and buy shirts with dinosaurs on it you do and i buy big plastic dinosaurs from china and they fight each other with them they like is your house like full of toys the fun grandma house yeah yeah yeah and i let them do whatever they want isn't it crazy how you you talked about this in your special you were stay-at-home mama you raised all them babies your husband was gone working.

Speaker 14 And now look at you.

Speaker 4 You're gone. You're working.
And you're traveling.

Speaker 13 You're working for 25 years,

Speaker 13 but I did. I got to raise them.
And I was always doing comedy.

Speaker 13 But, I mean, you know, there were times I couldn't get arrested. Nobody cared.

Speaker 13 But I always got to take them to school, pick them up, and Chuck would take care of them on the weekends so that I could go.

Speaker 13 Yeah.

Speaker 13 But it is.

Speaker 13 Now they don't need me like they used to. And we're all having a ball.
We're all

Speaker 8 that gets to a point where they don't need you.

Speaker 4 Well, they need me. They don't think they do.

Speaker 13 And you've got an adult parent. That's a whole different thing because you can't really tell them what to do.

Speaker 4 You have to just

Speaker 13 let them figure it out themselves, but it's awful.

Speaker 13 Because you want to stay up in their bed.

Speaker 8 Well, I got in her crib last night to put her to sleep. And I thought to myself, her husband's going to have to kick me out of her bed because I'm not ever going to get out.

Speaker 4 I know.

Speaker 8 He's going to have to sleep trainer. I'm not doing it.

Speaker 7 I have a special morning.

Speaker 4 That's very sweet.

Speaker 13 That baby's yummy.

Speaker 4 She is yummy.

Speaker 13 Okay.

Speaker 13 Y'all exercise.

Speaker 4 No.

Speaker 5 Well, he does.

Speaker 4 I don't really. I've been.

Speaker 7 I've exercised the least lately.

Speaker 4 Because you're working all the time. I'm working.
You're working. My dad.

Speaker 7 You know, I'm busy.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 7 I could be a little bit more disciplined. You started.

Speaker 4 You've been doing Pilates.

Speaker 8 Yeah, like once every couple of weeks. I try to get into a class.

Speaker 13 You know, I've never been on a reformer. I did mat Pilates when little Joseph, that little man that invented it, you could do it on a mat.
And I did it in San Antonio twice a week.

Speaker 13 It was $60 a month while my kids took swim lessons. And I built myself a natural girdle.

Speaker 13 And then I came back to Knoxville and they had the reformers, but it was like $1,500 a month. I couldn't afford it.
So my girdle snapped.

Speaker 13 And I thought, I hate to say that in front of a good-looking man, but there was stuff hanging out of my panties. I didn't know what happened.

Speaker 13 And it was, and it was, they said, Pilates builds you a natural girdle and then if you stop and i had to stop because i couldn't there was that was the only pilates

Speaker 4 at the time

Speaker 13 took a long time but i would like to do reformer pilates because that's what all the hollywood girls are doing they are i did look into a class when i was shooting my series and uh i mean somebody to come to my house and and train me personally And it was a lot.

Speaker 13 So I didn't do it.

Speaker 4 I don't know. A personal training girl.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 13 I don't like a real pilates girl that people know and stuff somebody somebody famous told me get her and i was like okay right i didn't um because i don't do that i'm i'm pretty normal you know i'm 60.

Speaker 13 this happened to me late in life so you're 60 i just turned 60 october the 3rd what did you do for your 60th birthday we went to the beach and took those babies and all my children

Speaker 13 and i got they got me we ate hamburgers and hot dogs and baked beans because i knew they would love that for my birthday meal And then, because they're two and five.

Speaker 13 And then my kids bought me two birthday cakes from Pumlix. And I stood at the kitchen counter and ate them with a fork in my bathing suit.

Speaker 13 And I hate to say this in front of you, but a Lanzen swim dress that was about 10 years old.

Speaker 4 Uh-huh. And I've always loved it.

Speaker 4 It sounds nice.

Speaker 14 It sounds nice.

Speaker 4 A swim dress. I had a ball.

Speaker 8 It's like a prime dress, but it's like neoprene, so you can get it wet and it's dry.

Speaker 4 And it's comfortable.

Speaker 13 And I, you know, who am i trying to impress so i had a ball it was one of the best birthdays i've ever had and did you have to stayed inside with toddlers you know you don't take

Speaker 8 they're feral uh did you cook the anything did you have to cook the bacon

Speaker 13 my kids all cooked that's nice that's nice what did chuck get you for your birthday okay y'all that chuck morgan He my, this is the wedding ring that he bought me when I turned 50 to upgrade my wedding ring.

Speaker 13 And what he bought me when we were young and didn't have any money was was a beautiful ring. But he got me this one.
Okay.

Speaker 13 He got me, brought out the old one and had a jeweler design it so that it doesn't look like a wedding ring, but I can wear it on this side. So it's got my old wedding ring, but in a new

Speaker 13 setting, and got this.

Speaker 4 Who gave him that idea?

Speaker 13 Genius. Nobody.
He did. He's very sentimental about Guillaume's.

Speaker 7 Because he's stepped up his game since he's really.

Speaker 4 He's been a gift giver.

Speaker 4 He's always always been a good gift giver.

Speaker 13 He's tight. We've been on a budget.
In that Netflix special, when I said I drove a Honda Pilot for 10 years that had lights flashing in it, I did.

Speaker 13 So he's very frugal, but he has always taken wonderful care of us and had us on a budget that we probably didn't even have to be on.

Speaker 13 But I tell people now we've got commodes at work that, and we're doing so much better, you know, because he just has always been on a budget. But yeah, he's always been a good gift giver.

Speaker 4 Wow.

Speaker 13 Even through thin and thick and all that and young he always got me beautiful gifts are you good oh y'all i'll get like a khaki pant

Speaker 4 and like a tie well it's hard for a man you know it is it is but i did get him pilot lessons to fly a plane is he good at receiving gifts

Speaker 13 or is he kind of like he goes i don't need anything yeah thanks yeah yeah yeah but i but i do think he likes to be thought of he loves a card and he wants you to take time to pick out a card and say, I don't care about a card.

Speaker 13 And he'll give me a card, but I'd rather him write me a letter.

Speaker 4 Like a letter.

Speaker 13 You know, he'll get a hallmark that somebody else wrote. Right, right.

Speaker 8 And then put Love Chuck.

Speaker 13 Yeah. And then Love Chuck, it'll be appropriate what was said in it, but I'd like to hear it from him.

Speaker 4 Right. You know,

Speaker 7 he will take the time to pick out the right card.

Speaker 13 Oh, he'll stay in a Walgreens for four hours, get hyper-focused.

Speaker 4 Do you save all your cards or do you throw a little trash?

Speaker 13 I don't. He does.
He saves all of his cards. I'm really not a sentimental person.

Speaker 6 I love it.

Speaker 8 What did you do with your baby's teeth and their hair?

Speaker 13 We just found all their teeth and hair. He had saved them.
When we just moved out of the house that we raised our children in, which I did cry.

Speaker 4 I was sitting all over that.

Speaker 13 I cried for two weeks like somebody died.

Speaker 13 But now my 32-year-old's living in it while he and his wife renovate their house. So that helped me.
That's nice. But yeah, we've got their teeth.
Chuck,

Speaker 13 he had all these little teeth and these casts where they,

Speaker 13 and he's got them sitting out.

Speaker 4 It's kind of gross. Sitting out? It is kind of gross.

Speaker 8 My mom has like a jar in her dresser that I found once when I was a little too young to find a big target.

Speaker 7 The wrong person walked into that house and saw that jar. They're like, serial killer.

Speaker 4 Serial killer. These are trophies.

Speaker 13 All right. Where were you raised in Alabama?

Speaker 4 Auburn.

Speaker 13 And oh, yeah, you told me that, my darling. Did you know that

Speaker 13 I did the CMAs last night? And Alabama is very represented in country music

Speaker 4 right now. Oh, yeah.
Ella Langley.

Speaker 4 Riley Green.

Speaker 4 Friend of show. We've had Riley Green on before.
Okay.

Speaker 13 I flirted with Riley Green in a biblical way

Speaker 4 last night.

Speaker 13 It was in the script, and I made over him. And when I had met him on the Today Show, he is beautiful.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 8 Yeah. Very tall.

Speaker 13 Very tall.

Speaker 13 Shabuzzy. He's as big as a Titan football player.
Did he ever play for the Titans?

Speaker 4 I've never seen as big a man. It's wild.

Speaker 13 Shabuzzy.

Speaker 9 Yeah, he is. He is.

Speaker 13 I just got one little picture with him. He had an entourage.

Speaker 4 Oh. I don't have an entrage.

Speaker 8 You must have looked so little next to him.

Speaker 13 I did. But then I dressed the whole bit that I did was with Lainey Wilson and I pitched it and I thought, oh, if this doesn't go over, I'm...
I'm in deep doo-doo.

Speaker 13 But I said, what if I came out and looked like Lainey Wilson in those bell bottoms, like living through her? So they're

Speaker 4 the same.

Speaker 4 And I got a big booty.

Speaker 13 and so we all came out and we're like each other and then we did a little something and then I flirted with Riley Green but it was wonderful if y'all ever been to the CMAs when you're in that in the Bridgetone and you watch those performances y'all gotta go

Speaker 4 they would want y'all can we be your plus ones next year

Speaker 4 I don't think we were invited we weren't invited oh my gosh it was wonderful Do you like country music?

Speaker 7 My wife got me onto it. Yeah.

Speaker 7 I didn't before, but she took me to stagecoach a few years back and it's a fun it's like a it's a good family event oh that was my charity work of the year so stagecoach isn't like that sodom and gomorrah uh coachella no no no it's a little i mean it's still a party it's still a party but it's a little more you feel more community a little bit more wholesome yeah less drugs and

Speaker 7 coachella it's like People are escaping their parents and like

Speaker 7 they're sinning.

Speaker 4 They're sinning. Yeah.

Speaker 9 There's a lot of sinning.

Speaker 13 My middle child went to coachella but she's a good girl and i don't think she did any kind of ayahuasca but i do think country music i'm a r b gal but i do love country music because i was raised near keith sweat little keith sweat um i do like little keith sweat but i was saying i'm 60 so it was earth wind and fire rick james Prince.

Speaker 13 Yeah, I was clubbing, sinning, clubbing and sinning in the 80s. I've been washing the blood now, but I was

Speaker 4 and

Speaker 13 yeah, a lot of prints.

Speaker 8 When was the last time you smoked a cigarette?

Speaker 13 I was 26 years old.

Speaker 8 Remember it clear as day.

Speaker 4 Oh, love them.

Speaker 13 Loved them. And I want all the young people, it's nasty and terrible, and you won't be able to walk to the mailbox.
Don't do it.

Speaker 4 Don't do it.

Speaker 13 But it was fun when it, before we all knew. It was a good time.
It was a good Marlboro light.

Speaker 8 No, you, I feel like, are one of the only women that I know that finishes your end of the deal, that you hold up your end of the deal with your husband.

Speaker 8 And you promise things and you deliver, regardless of what you've done that day.

Speaker 8 You talk about how you've been working all day and he's been back at that hotel resting and you get back and you're like, I know I'm going to have to do

Speaker 4 terrible, disgusting things.

Speaker 13 And I probably don't deal with them as much as I should.

Speaker 4 But really, men are simple.

Speaker 13 And when I don't, I don't mean not smart.

Speaker 4 Golden retrievers.

Speaker 13 But I, but I think if Chuck Morgan can smell something cooking in the oven, if I pour bleach

Speaker 13 in a guest bathroom and he knows, he thinks I've been cleaning. Yeah.
And then if I, that's how men show love.

Speaker 13 I think Dr. Phil maybe said that, or maybe it was Judy, that woman that,

Speaker 13 who was that real hateful woman on the radio that would cut everybody off?

Speaker 13 anyway she said that she said man that's all men need really to feel loved and it's true but i don't do like i should all the time well you seem like you do more than most well maybe and chuck's had a lot of testosterone he said mobile home sales i think men in sales have got a lot of testosterone i used to be in sales

Speaker 13 and i think men that are achievers and driven

Speaker 7 uh-huh chuck's very driven we got the panel and i apparently my my t is tin Oh, we did.

Speaker 8 We had all of our workups done trying to have another baby and

Speaker 8 his testosterone was the highest.

Speaker 7 They were like way above average. Way

Speaker 4 honey.

Speaker 13 Most men have just dropped to nothing.

Speaker 4 Oh good for you.

Speaker 13 Young men have dropped to nothing.

Speaker 8 Do your babies tell you famous people they want to meet? And then you make it happen?

Speaker 13 Not often, but yeah. Like

Speaker 13 everybody wanted to go see the Jonas brothers. And I was in a movie with Lil Nick Jonas.

Speaker 4 So we got to meet. That's exciting.
Yeah. That's a fall.

Speaker 13 That's a doll. So they, yeah, and they all screamed because they went to see them, you know, when they had on Cheetah Limited 2 outfits.

Speaker 7 Anyone want to meet Reese Witherspoon? Because I would have been excited.

Speaker 4 You played her big sister.

Speaker 13 Yes. And Tess, of course, is my makeup artist, my baby.
And she got to be with Reese a lot. And they've all met her now.
She's a doll.

Speaker 13 I don't think they got to meet Will Farrell. I don't think Tess did because she's always with me.
But the other one, see, my middle one's a non-profit. She doesn't get to do anything.

Speaker 13 And then my boy, because he's got babies, you know, they don't get to do anything.

Speaker 4 Nothing.

Speaker 13 But he's going to be, he's going to go and see the meat eaters podcast. And he's going to go see that podcast.
And my agents got him tickets.

Speaker 13 So they, yeah, they do ask for, you know, here and there, but not a lot. Meat eaters.
Nobody do anything because everybody's got a bunch of babies and trying to work.

Speaker 8 That's true. I know.

Speaker 13 That's true. I beg them to all quit their job.

Speaker 4 They won't. No.

Speaker 13 Their daddy doesn't want them to, but I want them to, so they can be with me.

Speaker 7 This episode's coming out right before Thanksgiving. What do you guys, what are your Thanksgiving traditions?

Speaker 13 Well, now everybody's coming to my house, but it used to be

Speaker 13 going to my little mom and daddy's house. I was raised in the country, 35 miles from here on the Kentucky-Tennessee border in a town of 500 people that grows dark fire tobacco.

Speaker 13 So let me say to your audience, I know y'all got a big one.

Speaker 4 This accent's real.

Speaker 13 And I don't know. Why would I fake this?

Speaker 8 People think that.

Speaker 13 People go, she's putting on, and I'm like, have you ever grown tobacco?

Speaker 4 But anyway,

Speaker 13 my people are meat people. My mom and daddy had a meat processing plant and a farm, and that's how they put us through school.
And so there was always a lot of meat.

Speaker 8 So you weren't a vegetarian growing up.

Speaker 13 I was when they opened up that meat processing plant from sixth grade until I went to the University of Tennessee because I could not take that smell.

Speaker 13 And then I got away and started eating pizza at the cafeteria. Because, see, I was a little rural kid.
We didn't have delivery or anything like that.

Speaker 13 And so they were like, let's deliver pizza to our dorm room.

Speaker 4 And I was like, what?

Speaker 13 So, and then I started eating pepperoni and stuff and cheeseburgers because I got away from it. But I was probably, I was a vegetarian from

Speaker 13 sixth grade on.

Speaker 8 Now, were your parents like, how dare you? Or were they like, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 13 No, they love a good pinto bean. We also had a garden, you know, country people.
Yeah. So mama had a bunch of vegetables.
Nobody cared. Yeah, we could do whatever I wanted to.

Speaker 13 My sister ate a bunch of steak and oreos

Speaker 13 and um red hots that's a great combo is she okay today she's okay

Speaker 13 made a tall chicken steak of oreos it's crazy and red hots and red hots all of her skill pictures her teeth would be red but i they would make over me and go lean is look at lean she eats pinto beans and i'd be like

Speaker 13 They bragged on me by eating pinto beans and I was proud of that. Isn't that crazy?

Speaker 8 That is crazy.

Speaker 13 Did you mash them up and make them like refried beans on on taco tuesday no i like to hold pinto like oh i did with a little pork fat i mean i guess mama put pork fat in them i played all sports in my high school loved sports all through middle school and high school and i and she would have pinto beans in the oven that were that were cold And I would eat them as a snack when I got home from basketball.

Speaker 13 Is that not twisted?

Speaker 13 Y'all should have seen my legs. I was beautiful.
I just ran all day.

Speaker 13 we didn't have cable. I ran all day playing ball and then would eat pinto beans as a snack.
I looked like a movie star. Thank God I didn't know it.

Speaker 8 Yeah. Thank God there was an Instagram.

Speaker 8 You would have been,

Speaker 4 you would have been

Speaker 4 way famous.

Speaker 13 I would have been.

Speaker 13 It would have been terrible. And also, I think, it's no telling what I would have done.
for boys. I've always loved Bowies.

Speaker 13 I would, if I, and I say this now that I'm an actor, they say, I don't feel like that, but um, in LA, I thought if I tried to make it in Hollywood at 20 and the pressure that's put on those, I say all the time, I would be on dope.

Speaker 13 If I were in Hollywood at 20, I would be on dope trying to cope

Speaker 4 with all that.

Speaker 13 And thank the Lord, there was not Instagram and all that because I think I would have Snapchatted.

Speaker 13 I think I would have

Speaker 4 I do. I love me.
That's how we met.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 8 Well, on Instagram.

Speaker 13 But yeah. A sweet message I read that

Speaker 13 about y'all. But yeah, I probably would have done worse.
I don't know. Because I was pretty

Speaker 4 fun.

Speaker 8 So

Speaker 8 everybody's coming to your house for turkey and pinto beans.

Speaker 13 Yeah, and I like to have a turkey. I do like to have a turkey.
And we call it dressing. We don't call it stuff.

Speaker 4 We call it dressing.

Speaker 13 And then we always have a ham.

Speaker 4 Mm-hmm.

Speaker 4 Grocery. Green bean casserole.

Speaker 7 Yes. Green bean casserole with the

Speaker 4 right?

Speaker 4 Uh-huh.

Speaker 8 Yeah. Yeah.
That's the dish that I bring every year to Thanksgiving. And, you know, it just doesn't change.
Three ingredients. The easiest thing you could do.

Speaker 4 How do you do yours, my darling?

Speaker 8 Oh, canned beans, canned cream and mushrooms.

Speaker 13 And then just top it with the crispy onion.

Speaker 9 Yes, I do.

Speaker 13 That's it. What did you think about this food when you got down here in the south?

Speaker 4 I'm not a side guy. No, no, no.
Listen, you don't like side.

Speaker 13 Leanne.

Speaker 4 He came. No, no, no.
I got redempted.

Speaker 7 I got redeemed. It's, you know, whatever.

Speaker 8 He came to our family Thanksgiving, and my sweet grandmother, rest her soul, Betty Sue, she is very serious about her dressing.

Speaker 8 She's very serious about Thanksgiving and everyone bringing their own dish and everybody trying everything that everybody brings. So I brought Nick.
First time he's meeting the family.

Speaker 8 And I said, well, you got to make something, you know, like, that's a good, what you going to make? He said he was going to make. No, no, no, no.

Speaker 7 I was at.

Speaker 7 Your sister asked me you nominated meatball i make i make really good meatballs one of the few things

Speaker 4 one of the many things i make that are delicious meatballs and so my sweet grandmother was like oh she nominated me this is not really thanksgiving but sure

Speaker 8 and then we all sat down and the only thing that nick ate for thanksgiving supper was his meatballs i'm not a turkey guy you know heartbroken she's not that great it's not i mean turkey's not my favorite but if you butter it up good and you can get through it, you know,

Speaker 7 also, no one, because this is a traditional family who likes her traditional Thanksgiving, no one was fucking with my meatballs. So I was like, I slaved away this morning on all these meatballs.

Speaker 7 Her brother-in-law came over, was in town for dinner. And wouldn't you know it

Speaker 7 I'm making meatballs. And John sat down, the doctor, sophisticated man that he is, and like took a bite.
And

Speaker 7 it literally took his breath away.

Speaker 13 Well, don't you know that he was thrilled with your meatball?

Speaker 4 And he's like, I've never had meatballs like this.

Speaker 7 You have to make this for us sometime. And I almost lost my mind.
I was like, John, three years ago, I made the exact same dish and no one touched it. Yeah.

Speaker 13 Do you use different kind of meats in your meatball?

Speaker 7 Just Italian sausage and beef.

Speaker 13 Italian sausage and beef?

Speaker 4 Yes.

Speaker 7 Lots of garlic and onions and parsley and oregano and some eggs and some breadcrumbs and some olive oil.

Speaker 4 And then I make a homemade tomato sauce and I kind of cook it all together.

Speaker 13 Are your people Italian? No.

Speaker 4 What are your people? Really? English. English.

Speaker 11 Harry Cattle.

Speaker 4 Swedish. Yeah.

Speaker 7 I have 10 siblings.

Speaker 4 I ran that.

Speaker 8 His mama had 11 babies.

Speaker 13 11 babies. Where are you in that ordinal positioning?

Speaker 7 I am the oldest boy, second oldest.

Speaker 13 Second oldest.

Speaker 13 Did they think you're a movie star? I mean, is everybody tickled with you? Are they as pretty as you? All these children.

Speaker 4 Why are you looking at me?

Speaker 7 Of course. Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 4 Sure.

Speaker 4 We have a beautiful family. My parents have a beautiful family.
I think that's a wilderness. Yeah, I don't think they're

Speaker 7 they didn't lose themselves.

Speaker 4 They don't care.

Speaker 7 They're totally happy for me and happy for us. And I think they appreciate some of the things that every once in a while, especially my parents.

Speaker 4 I take care of her.

Speaker 7 My parents take care of us. We take care of them.

Speaker 4 So that's nice to be able to do.

Speaker 7 But other than that, they're not asking the insider questions.

Speaker 7 Every once in a while, they'll see me on TV and they'll call me up and be like, why didn't you tell me you did this thing? I'm like, I don't know.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Yeah.
That's it.

Speaker 13 Yeah.

Speaker 8 Yeah. Did you,

Speaker 8 since your daughter is your makeup artist, she comes with you everywhere. She's on tour with you.

Speaker 8 She went to the CMAs.

Speaker 8 And has there been a moment where

Speaker 8 you go, wipe this off my face and do something else? This is not what I wanted.

Speaker 4 Have y'all are y'all

Speaker 8 ever fighting over your look?

Speaker 13 We are fighting over my look. We're fighting over somebody rolling their eyes.

Speaker 13 It's hard being on the road with your baby because,

Speaker 13 you know,

Speaker 13 I do like turn into boss and then she wants her mama. Yeah.
You know. And so that we do have some conflict there.
And also, I mean, I want her to, she wants to marry and have babies.

Speaker 13 And it's really brutal. What, you know, my touring just signed another 200 City to her.

Speaker 13 And so she can't have a normal life and so lately we've been like she'll do the series with me for sure because she can get her union she's about almost got that union which is a crazy big deal to get your union in l a with my exaggeration crazy yeah and so she she needs that and so she'll do that with me and live out there with me but i i have told her you don't have to do this because she has taken care of me just like a

Speaker 13 she's done like bodyguard

Speaker 13 i mean she's smart. She's got common sense.
She takes care of a lot of other things besides makeup and hair. And I've really relied on her.
And that may be too much.

Speaker 13 And so I've said, you don't have to do this. I can find people that can tend to me and take care of me on tour.
I get a tour manager. And I've got somebody that tours with me.

Speaker 13 But I said, I want you to marry and have babies. You know, that's my girls want baby.
My children all want. We're about babies.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 13 We're about babies and dogs and eating and doing and everybody together and i and i want her to have that and i don't want her wake up and you know and but her youth i mean her young adulthood gone because she

Speaker 13 would be you have someone else with you along the road i know and honey it would be because there's nothing like having your own daughter you know and we laugh and we have a good time we fun yeah she wants to slap my teeth out

Speaker 13 um she gets tired of me you know and um and i do. I probably put demands on her because I'm tired and I'm, you know, I have to turn into this boss.

Speaker 8 Is she quick to be like, mom?

Speaker 4 No.

Speaker 8 Like, does she put you in your place?

Speaker 13 She does. She's the baby and she runs our family and she puts me in my place.
And, but I need her to, and I get it.

Speaker 13 And she is smart in my business and has got sense. She really does.
And everybody thinks she needs to be a stand-up. She's really funny, but she just has no desire.
Really?

Speaker 13 And I think if you want to be a stand-up, that's something that's got to burn in your soul because it is so hard and bad and so many no's and disappointments that she doesn't need to be, nobody needs to push her in that if she don't want to do that.

Speaker 13 Now, she could have her own makeup line. People have talked to her about that because I've got this fan base, you know, that love her and want to see her.

Speaker 13 But she's really don't want to be out there.

Speaker 13 And then my middle child's in nonprofit and she lives in, she just moved to New York and works for the food bank for New York and is the middle child and kind of gets lost in the, you know, and doesn't want, doesn't care about money, doesn't, I mean, doing the Lord's work.

Speaker 13 Yes. And she does not, um, the baby's bougie.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 13 The baby is bougie.

Speaker 7 So is my wife.

Speaker 4 I'm the baby.

Speaker 13 And I'm bougie. You like nice things.
Tess likes nice things. Maggie barely has shoes.

Speaker 4 Don't care. Yeah.

Speaker 8 That's my, that's my sister.

Speaker 13 And then my boy, he likes a good fishing pole and likes to he's an outdoorsman and i you know and wants these children to have a college fun so i mean that's what he cares about but um the baby yeah is very yeah but everybody and they love her and they go she needs to be a stand-up she don't want to do it does she help you write any of your stuff do you run it by she has um

Speaker 13 she has said what about this or like if there's a script for something What about this?

Speaker 13 And okay, I got to tell y'all, Tim Daly plays my love interest in the series, plays Agent Andrew, and he is a doll.

Speaker 13 And he was in the makeup room one day, and he was saying, you know, I played David Crash on ABC.

Speaker 4 And Tess, he's beautiful. Tess looked at him.

Speaker 13 He's 69. She goes, if you were a cult leader, I would wear a bonnet and never speak to my family again.

Speaker 13 And Tim Daly bent over, laughing so hard. So she's very witty.
And they've taken things that she said and put them in the scriptures.

Speaker 4 Wow.

Speaker 5 That's crazy.

Speaker 13 That's crazy. She loves doing, she loves being a makeup artist.
And she's in there with all those middle-aged women. And that's, she said, that's my demo.

Speaker 8 Did you have a say in your love interest?

Speaker 13 No, they

Speaker 13 cast him.

Speaker 13 And let me tell you, you ought to see him in person. And he is, you're talking about somebody who has drank some green juice and has not eaten white flour.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 13 And he is stunning. He's married to Taya Leone, who we're in love with.
She's beautiful and a girl's girl and just

Speaker 13 Leanne, have you ever tried Guinness? It's pretty good. It's like dessert.
And I tried Guinness. Little Taya Leone drinks Guinness.

Speaker 6 The beer?

Speaker 4 Yeah. Oh, I know.
I'm not afraid of it. It's like coffee.
It has a coffee taste to it.

Speaker 13 It's kind of got a dessert taste to it. And they wanted me to sip it with that little boy on the Guinness show, on the Guinness family on Netflix.

Speaker 4 That little boy.

Speaker 13 I say that. He's a grown man, but he, you know, he looked like I could have birthed him.
But anyway, Taylorone's very girls, girl, kind of, you know, no makeup, darling. But Tim Daley, beautiful.

Speaker 13 And I could just, and such a good actor that he, you know, he told me he loved me in the series.

Speaker 4 And I thought for a minute, I thought, oh, no, Tim Daley loves me.

Speaker 13 How am I going to tell Chuck?

Speaker 13 Wonderful. I love you too.

Speaker 4 I love you too.

Speaker 13 Agent Andrews.

Speaker 4 Darling. Darling.
I mean, darling.

Speaker 13 He's got a beautiful head of hair.

Speaker 4 Wow. Wow.
I know.

Speaker 4 Then

Speaker 13 looks good on TV. When I first saw my butt on TV, I thought, whose butt is that?

Speaker 8 Are you watching it? Are you watching it back?

Speaker 4 No, I don't like to watch myself. I watched it one time.

Speaker 4 The TV show?

Speaker 13 But

Speaker 13 I sat and held my knees and gripped my teeth. But then after I got into it, I thought, okay, pretty good.

Speaker 4 Pretty good.

Speaker 13 And, you know, I tell people, I go, please please keep watching it. 16 episodes, the first season.
My butt gets smaller and my acting gets better.

Speaker 13 That first three weeks, three episodes, I was like a deer in a headlight. Pretty nearly.
It is so much to learn.

Speaker 13 And you got upset of 250 people on a crew that are expecting you to do well so they have a job. I mean, the whole thing, I just want to cry and pack up and go home.
But then I settled into it.

Speaker 13 I tell y'all, drop this name.

Speaker 13 Jerry Seinfeld, that doll, has been kind of mentoring me his wife reached out to me i'd met her somewhere and she said can jerry call you and he said i want to i want to tell you what this is going to be like because i've been through it

Speaker 13 and he said this you are the person they built this around you lynn you're the one that can entertain people on a stage for an hour and make them laugh remember that you've got wonderful writers and they know how to arc a story you know and do all that but you're the star so you go in that every week and say, I wouldn't say that.

Speaker 13 I would say this. So at first, I was trying to get my feet under me.
And then

Speaker 13 after a few episodes, I was like, okay, if y'all give me the script, I'll tell you how we really talk in Tennessee. This is really what we'd say.
We don't use that mayonnaise.

Speaker 4 We don't use it. We did not use.
Y'all probably did.

Speaker 13 We in the mayonnaise.

Speaker 7 I don't like mayonnaise, but we, but

Speaker 7 we're not, we're not wet.

Speaker 4 We're mayonnaise. Mayonnaise.
I'm good, baby.

Speaker 8 Are you Dukes or Hellman's?

Speaker 4 I like a Dukes.

Speaker 13 But I'm not, I don't hate on a Hellman's. I've never met a mayonnaise I didn't like.

Speaker 4 But, um,

Speaker 13 but yeah, I had to get that little detail and all that.

Speaker 7 That must have been kind of cool. Like Jerry Seinfeld kind of like picked you in a way.
Like, what do you think he saw in you? Maybe did he tell you?

Speaker 13 He did. I mean, he's been so precious to me.
And he, um, he just said, Leanne, I think you're very unique. And I think you've got a point of view that we haven't seen.
And it's very different.

Speaker 13 You know, he thinks I'm a good storyteller and all that.

Speaker 7 And he offered you his time.

Speaker 13 And he'll call me, he loves talking about comedy. That's all he cares about.
So he just likes to be with comics. He's a billionaire.

Speaker 13 He could be sitting up in the Hamptons with a bunch of hoop-de-doo people.

Speaker 13 He don't want to be, I mean, I'm sure he enjoys them, but he wants to be with comics and he just wants to talk about stand-up.

Speaker 13 And he said, if there's a fallout in Las Vegas or somewhere and they'll say, Jerry, so-and-so can't show up. Do you want to do it? And he goes, offline, do it.
I want to to be on stage every night.

Speaker 13 He just loves it. But he did that with Nate Borgatzy too, who's a good friend of mine.
He just said, I've been through this, what y'all are going through, these, you know,

Speaker 13 this happening, going from theaters to arenas or whatever, and I want to help you through it. I've been through it.

Speaker 4 That's incredible.

Speaker 8 Is the

Speaker 8 comedy world very competitive or is it a little bit more?

Speaker 4 The boys, I think, are competitive with each other.

Speaker 13 Yeah.

Speaker 4 You know. Yeah.

Speaker 13 But they're not, I mean, maybe they see me as an old grandma that's not in their lane, which I'm not.

Speaker 13 And they're all very supportive of me. I've never felt that competitiveness, but I see it with them

Speaker 13 and how they compete with each other. But that's men.
You know, men are competitive.

Speaker 4 That's okay.

Speaker 13 But yeah, and a lot of, you know, a lot of those boys are in the same lane. So they're all fighting for the same ticket sales, you know, when you think about it.
Yeah.

Speaker 13 And the females, I mean, you've got Taylor Tomlinson, Nikki Glazer,

Speaker 13 Sarah Silverman, Chelsea Handler, but I'm not in their lane.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 13 You know, they still have

Speaker 8 craved your own path.

Speaker 13 Well, I, you know, and I didn't even mean to. I think it's just, I was speaking to a bunch of people that were kind of ignored

Speaker 13 out in the middle of the United States, just normal, everyday people. And those girls, those young girls, still want to talk about, you know, what?

Speaker 13 When I was their age, I wanted to talk about it too. It was on my mind, but no, it's not.

Speaker 4 No, I'm dead inside.

Speaker 4 But they're all wonderful.

Speaker 13 I'm all, I'm fans of all of them.

Speaker 8 How adventurous are you having to get these days to find more new material? Or is it coming to you just like the grocery store?

Speaker 13 Well, there's some things like that that come to me, baby.

Speaker 13 And then there's other things where I think I need to go and live a normal life.

Speaker 4 You know, I work all the time.

Speaker 13 And some of my best material is going and watching,

Speaker 13 going to a yoga class or going

Speaker 13 uh watching my uh baby cheer and where that she wore that whore outfit and we did competition cheer which i would suggest y'all don't get into that

Speaker 4 that baby um

Speaker 13 they've gotten crop the the crop tops have gotten way more crops oh and the dancing oh yeah the dancing and i do think travel sports keep kids off of dope but and my girls also play volleyball so so like i'll bring back stories from that because I do like, I feel like I can be a little bit of a, you know, tell young girls what I did right and what I did wrong, you know, and I like to tell those stories.

Speaker 13 But yeah, I need to have some normal, I need to go to the zoo. Like, it's that kind of stuff that I get material from.
On the second special I just dropped, I talked about going to the Claremont Lynn.

Speaker 13 Have y'all ever been there?

Speaker 4 I have not had the pleasure. Don't go.

Speaker 8 He said, I have not had the pleasure.

Speaker 13 As a heterosexual male, you won't even.

Speaker 4 It's not not for me. Okay.

Speaker 8 And how short were those ceilings in there?

Speaker 13 Oh, people were dancing and holding on to the ceiling.

Speaker 13 It was,

Speaker 13 it, you know, I can't say what it really was.

Speaker 13 I don't want to say circus. It is a very niche, unusual thing.
It's not when people go and you see strippers like you see in the movies and they're all beautiful, which I can imagine.

Speaker 13 That would make me feel like I was sitting with Satan.

Speaker 13 But this

Speaker 13 is more of a like, there's an old woman that crashes, takes a beer can and smashes it with her body parts. It's that kind of thing.
It's more, it's like

Speaker 13 performance art with prosthetics.

Speaker 7 People have certain tastes there.

Speaker 13 I don't even know if you'd say that.

Speaker 13 It's like darling gay men like to go.

Speaker 13 I don't know why. I really don't know why.
And then I said serial killers because I mean, I saw men that never blinked and stood on the side of the bar that didn't look right through their eyes.

Speaker 13 Then it's like girls for bachelorettes that just want to have a good time and like yell at some little woman and throw a dollar at her.

Speaker 13 I'm telling y'all, it's the craziest thing I've ever seen in my life.

Speaker 8 And like by little women, we mean little women.

Speaker 13 Like there might be little people there. I did not see any there.

Speaker 4 They were just

Speaker 4 little frail

Speaker 13 70-year-old women.

Speaker 4 Oh my God.

Speaker 13 There was one that was 70. She had to have been 70.
And then it's just,

Speaker 13 it's just all walks of life.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 8 none of this inspired you to like maybe pick up a new hobby.

Speaker 13 No.

Speaker 13 I did say if times get bad, I could go and dance there because it's not about being young and pretty. Let me just say that.
It's for all walks of life.

Speaker 7 It's for interesting people.

Speaker 13 I guess.

Speaker 7 I'm just trying to.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 13 I'm trying to be political.

Speaker 7 Find a delicate way.

Speaker 13 But it's like, it's like a, like a voyeur is like a bazaar. Yeah.

Speaker 8 And how long did you spend there?

Speaker 13 He gave me good material.

Speaker 8 Yeah. How long did you spend there that night?

Speaker 4 I think that was a couple of hours. Oh, God.

Speaker 13 With the hair and makeup people from the movie. Right.
And they were all darling. And I mean, I don't, I'll never go back.
But they said you'll get new material and they were right.

Speaker 13 And Goldie Holland's Hong's daughter-in-law, Meredith Hagner, played our little sister. And she said Goldie Hong goes every time, loves to go to the Claremont Lounge.
Lady Gongo's been.

Speaker 13 I've heard her talk about it. I mean, it's like a historical thing, and they might close it down.
Somebody said it might be toward the end. So maybe y'all should go.

Speaker 8 Well, maybe it won't be if you keep talking about it.

Speaker 5 You send people.

Speaker 13 Maybe they would move it to another basement.

Speaker 13 If they're going to close it down at the Claremont, which is a hotel, a real hotel.

Speaker 13 But stuff like that gives me material.

Speaker 13 Not, I mean, that's the only strip joint I've ever been to. But, you know, I got to experience something.

Speaker 4 Yeah, something different.

Speaker 8 That's true. So, your second special, Netflix,

Speaker 8 is so good. It's so funny.

Speaker 8 It's so funny. Yeah.
Everybody go listen to it. Go watch it.

Speaker 13 It went number one.

Speaker 8 It's been sitting on top three.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's been sitting on the top three for everyone. That thrilled me.

Speaker 7 Staying power, that really matters. You know, like it, you know, you're a name, it pops.
Everyone gives it a chance or like your core audience. But for to sticker, top, top 10 for a whole week.

Speaker 7 I mean, top five is.

Speaker 13 Thank you, my darling. I really wasn't expecting that.

Speaker 13 But my television show stayed in the top 10 for 22 days. I never got to number one because I couldn't beat those hunting wives.

Speaker 13 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Killing those boars in their pants.

Speaker 7 What do you watch when you aren't making TV?

Speaker 13 I tell you, you know, I've worked so hard lately that I really,

Speaker 13 I raised my children on real housewives and my husband stayed so mad at me and would come home we'd be laying on the bed watching people fight and cuss and they'd bleep out things and snatch wigs and Chuck Morgan go you're ruining the United States of America let me watch this

Speaker 13 Neene and bed cussing and yelling and he'd be gritting his teeth he'd be so mean and go you're ruining you the United and I go that's a heavy burden to put on me

Speaker 13 but I loved it and I would like hide it and do the remote and try to get out of the way and then um he'd press the back button on the remote to go back to the last city.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I would watch Showtime Gigolos.

Speaker 13 I was watching Real Housewives.

Speaker 7 With City.

Speaker 4 I loved all of them.

Speaker 13 I really want to go back.

Speaker 4 Do you keep up?

Speaker 13 I don't know. And I was on with Andy and I felt terrible.
He goes, what are you into now? And I was like, oh, Andy. Because I used to keep up with New Jersey, Atlanta, Beverly Hills.

Speaker 4 Loved all

Speaker 13 Orange County, all that.

Speaker 13 But I just haven't kept up.

Speaker 4 But I've heard

Speaker 7 Salt Lake City. Salt Lake City is incredible.

Speaker 4 I've heard that it is incredible.

Speaker 13 And I need to go back and watch that.

Speaker 4 That's material.

Speaker 13 I know. I've heard like Colbert talk about it.
Yeah. And I thought, okay, I've got to go back and see that.
People say you can't even, you don't even, can't even imagine. Okay.

Speaker 4 But I also loved

Speaker 13 this Murdoch murder.

Speaker 4 We're watching it.

Speaker 4 Are you caught up? Uh-huh. Does it? Oh, who loves?

Speaker 7 We had the girl who played the journalist. We had her on like two weeks ago, Manny Matney, who is very fascinating.

Speaker 8 Does it frustrate you talking about we don't say that in Tennessee or we don't, they say bow every other second.

Speaker 4 I don't like that.

Speaker 13 I've never heard that, but I wasn't raised in South Carolina.

Speaker 4 Well, I don't know. I don't think that it's on my nerves.

Speaker 8 It just feels like, I mean, a little bit for sure, but

Speaker 8 every time I watch it, I'm like, oh, another one.

Speaker 13 I thought that too. I thought this is getting on my last nerve.

Speaker 5 But it's good.

Speaker 13 Patricia Arkea.

Speaker 4 She's incredible.

Speaker 4 And Jason Clark.

Speaker 11 Yeah. They both.

Speaker 13 Wow. That man that plays the deity that also was in the LA about the LA Lakers.
Did y'all watch that on HBO?

Speaker 7 I didn't. But he's also in this new show called like The Last Frontier on Apple, which is kind of like a fun like.

Speaker 7 jailbreak and he's like he's like a detective he's a good guy he's like it's wild it's like the the the juxtaposition between like watching him as a murdoch and then watching him as like this uh u.s marshal like this really righteous you know

Speaker 13 it's great he's an incredible unbelievable character yeah okay you've got to watch and they didn't bring it back i don't know if it costs too much money but it was the story of uh bussy jay moore married the bussy girl but the man who owned the lakers It's his story.

Speaker 13 And then this actor played Jerry West.

Speaker 4 It was on HBO, I think. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 13 And unbelievable about Magic Johnson and all that. And Jerry, he played Jerry West, the coach, that character actor, and unbelievable.

Speaker 13 And yeah, and I don't think they brought it back because I think I heard it was too expensive to make. Maybe

Speaker 4 that makes sense.

Speaker 7 I know Magic Johnson was kind of mad about it.

Speaker 13 Do what?

Speaker 7 Yeah, mad about it. Magic, you know, it's like, hey, everyone, you know, that didn't happen that way.
You know, everyone has a different version. It's made for tea.
I'm sure you're sensitive about a

Speaker 7 story about your life that you weren't a part of.

Speaker 4 Honey, I can't. AI.

Speaker 13 My kids sent me today on Facebook that Chuck Morgan and Leigh Ann have renewed their vows. And it's some woman's cute body in a wedding dress, my head on it.
With Chuck Morgan, it's not his face.

Speaker 13 It's not Chuck's face.

Speaker 13 And it's, or it'll be my son crying. He won't be crying.
And it'll say,

Speaker 13 just crazy mess.

Speaker 4 I get that all the time.

Speaker 13 And I don't, and I want to say to people, that's not true.

Speaker 13 And it said, Chuck Morgan did not buy Leigh Ann diamonds for her 60th birthday.

Speaker 13 he took her on a picnic and wrote her love letters and it's got these two people that are not us on a blanket and I thought one we cannot set crisscross applesauce Chuck can get up off the ground two he did buy me he did do the diamonds on the ring he does not write me a love letter I would like to have that

Speaker 13 but I thought do I need to do a video and you know how people do a video in front of something and it's that's not Chuck's teeth

Speaker 13 you know I get that kind of stuff yeah but it's just on Facebook Facebook is wild.

Speaker 8 No, every time I get on Facebook, I'm always reading like somebody's dead. And I'm like, oh my God.

Speaker 4 They are.

Speaker 4 And they're not. They're not.
They're not. They're not.

Speaker 8 And all the comments are like, rest in peace. I loved him.

Speaker 4 And I'm like, how are all of y'all falling for this?

Speaker 7 Crazy. Are y'all getting catfished on Facebook?

Speaker 8 Everybody's getting catfished on Facebook.

Speaker 7 Well, Leanne, it's really been a pleasure. Thank you for watching.

Speaker 4 I've had a phone. Do you want to stay for supper?

Speaker 13 You angel, honey. I'm one.

Speaker 4 Meatballs.

Speaker 7 Please come back anytime you want to promote anything.

Speaker 13 Well, thank you, my darling.

Speaker 4 Thank you, Special.

Speaker 13 I feel very...

Speaker 4 Bring your daughter. Bring Tess.

Speaker 8 Bring Chuck.

Speaker 4 Let's do a double date.

Speaker 13 Chuck doesn't talk much, but everybody's asked him.

Speaker 7 I love not talking.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I can do it for a living.

Speaker 7 Honestly, at dinner, I could just... Chuck and I could stare at each other.

Speaker 4 He uses his arms up at work.

Speaker 4 And then he doesn't talk at home. Yeah, that's him.

Speaker 13 But yeah, I'm finding that

Speaker 13 I'm very extroverted. But I find I talk so much now in interviews and all that kind of stuff that I understand now people, you know, needing their quiet time.

Speaker 7 Close my eyes, stare at a wall.

Speaker 4 Stare at a wall.

Speaker 8 What's your advice on getting Chuck to talk?

Speaker 13 Achilles surgery. Okay.
If he'll have surgery on something and then he's at home.

Speaker 4 Oh. Then he talks too much and I'm like, what are you saying to me?

Speaker 13 But if he does not work, if he takes time off he'll talk to me but no he really i mean i think he you're more of a talker than chuck probably he's older but i do enjoy my quiet i cannot talk with the best of them all is all i'm saying he could keep up with chuck morgan yeah you've got a twinkle in your eye oh thank you that is so true you did so okay y'all are both beautiful thank you

Speaker 13 i would if i could if i had time i'd put in a load of wash and make you a cake Can you put our baby down for a nap?

Speaker 4 I could. Raw.
Put that baby down, angel.

Speaker 13 She's already had her snack.

Speaker 4 But y'all are darling.

Speaker 13 I hope that I was interesting enough.

Speaker 4 I mean, y'all are pretty healed.

Speaker 8 No, you

Speaker 8 I could talk to you about what you had for lunch and I would have fun.

Speaker 7 Yeah, it's fun just kind of hanging out. Your special, Unspeakable Things.
It's rocking and rolling on Netflix. It's in its top 10.
Be sure to check it out. It's the perfect holiday special.

Speaker 7 It's family-friendly. It's fun.
You'll laugh. Check it out if if you haven't already.
I'm sure most of you have, but if you haven't, check it out. Leanne, we love you.

Speaker 13 Thank you, my darling.

Speaker 4 I love you all.

Speaker 7 All right. Well, that'll wrap up today's episode.
Thank you to our guests, Leanne Morgan and Charlie Manley. We appreciate you all.
Make sure you all have a very happy Thanksgiving.

Speaker 7 Wherever you're spending it, be safe. Love your friends.
Love your family. All that fun stuff.

Speaker 7 Do not forget, tomorrow is the part two of the very messy, very explosive interview with Jordan and Jesse.

Speaker 7 I sit down with Jordan to kick things off, and then the four of us come together to see how Jesse and Jordan may or may not move forward. That is all tomorrow on a part two, going deeper.

Speaker 7 You do not want to miss. Enjoy your holidays.
Bye-bye.

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