E918 - Coachella, Liza Treyger, Million Dollar Secret w/ Cara, Kenya v Brit, Summer House & SNL v Aimee Lou

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what's going on everybody welcome back to another exciting episode of the vile files reality recap edition i'm your host nick and we didn't go to coachella this weekend we did not i didn't i didn't have any ounce of fomo i'll be honest me neither nope yeah i don't think yeah i really i really i really didn't we were it's it was interesting because we were there last year we were we brought the whole team right we took a little team field trip we uh we got to meet uh swartz's new girlfriend are they still hanging out what's are they together as of a couple months ago yeah. All right.
Yeah. Well, we interviewed Swarty and his new girlfriend.
Yeah. It was a fun weekend.
But yeah, it's really crazy to think how much change is in a year. Truly.
How much, like, just thinking about this time last year. And we even had, like, we had River.
So it wasn't like, oh, my God, like, now we have a child. But, like, River, that's when she learned It made me think about it.
That's when we discovered the pack and play. Remember? Not the pack and play.
It was the kick and play. What's the difference? The Fisher Price.
Where she laid on her back and she could kick the piano. Yeah, that was game changing.
That was game changing. She loved it.
I do have a gripe with everyone at Coachella this year, though. Everyone? I will say.
Everyone. Well, everyone that I follow.
Because, you know, they don't stop with the Instagram story posts. They don't stop, which is fine.
Post your content. I get it.
I want to see it. I'm sitting in bed.
I'm scrolling. But you're going to record Lady Gaga's hit song, Alejandro, and only post the intro? These people are only posting the most random clips of these songs.
And it's like, if you're going to post someone's set on Instagram,

you better put the chorus. You better put the most banging part of the song.

Yeah.

Because if I'm, I'm trying to sing it, I'm in bed.

I'm trying to sing along and it cuts off right before like the beat drops.

I'm pissed.

Yeah.

I'm going to be honest.

I'm thinking now I'm pretty sure I've, I've, I've definitely never given that any thought. Well, I'm definitely up there just recording, not really thinking about the type of song.
If I'm posting from a concert, I'm so specific about exactly which clip I'm going to post from the concert. Same.
Yeah. In reality, nobody really wants to see your shaky concert video.
So it's like, you're just saying you're there. So you really want it to be a good part of the song and try to get good quality if you're trying to drag.
The live streams do exist for a reason. Exactly.
I will say. What if it's just like the entrance, like when the artist comes out for the first time? That's fine.
But you have to then post again them singing like an iconic song.

You know? If you're gonna post

I want to see Gaga with the skeleton singing

Zombie Boy. Yes, of course.

This started when I saw friend of show

Kelsey Anderson post

Lady Gaga

intro to Alejandro.

And it's like... You coming for Kelsey?

Well, that's what made me think of it.

And then the more I kept scrolling, she was my first. She was my first person on my Instagram stories.
The more I kept going, everyone was doing it. And I was like, no, what is happening? All Kelsey posted was that I never want to feel like this anymore, Alejandro.
And then that was it. And her story was over.
And it went to like a picture of this cloud. And I was like, no keep going she wanted you to increase that fomo you know it didn't give me fomo that's the thing it i had zero percent fomo i just wanted to like be in bed be cozy have my skincare done be breathing like fresh air right and and be able to just like sing along and like do a little shoulder shrug in bed and i couldn't do that i'm with kelsey what you're against me because here's the thing if you want no not against you against the concept because if you want the performance that's what the live stream is absolutely not these people are these people want to experience the actual like climax of the song themselves so they're just these just giving you a moment They're edging They are content creators Have you seen the clips even from the audience When I was going to Coachella Everyone was dancing, having fun, laying in the grass Everybody's just standing there with their phones up So it's like what are you recording Watch the live stream, let them live in the moment live stream? I wouldn't even know where to access the live stream.
I watch the live stream. YouTube.
YouTube. YouTube.
You can see all the performances. But who records the live stream? Is it just someone in the audience? Or is it like a professional? Professional HD.
Yeah. Yeah, they're like up on a scaffolding.
All angles. Better angles than being in the audience.
Yeah. But even then, remember they didn't do one for Frank Ocean That one year Well he came out Like 40 minutes

Didn't he mail it in

Then he quit

Or something

So funny

Yeah he was like

Supposed to have like

An ice skating rink

And whatnot

On his performance

And then like

It didn't work out

At Macy and Madeline's event

In New York

The Sink show

We met someone

Who works for Frank Ocean

And I was like

Oh that's so cool

And he was like

Yeah he hasn't done anything

In a while

I'm like

He really hasn't

Like what actually

What do you do for him

If you work for him What are you doing Because he's not doing much He's still on the payroll he hasn't done anything in a while. I'm like, he really hasn't.
Like, what actually, what do you do for him if you work for him? What are you doing? Because he's not doing much. He's still on the payroll? I guess.
I don't know. Okay.
But when Frank Ocean does do something, boy, does he do it. Boy, does he do it.
That is very true. But I guess.
Also, Natalie. What? You wouldn't have FOMO if you saw people waiting three hours for a shower, 12 hours to get into their campsite.
Like, fireworks blowing up in the artist area. Like, area like this is too much like i don't care how aesthetic you make your tent there's no world in which i can sit in for 10 hours to get into a camping spot to go to a festival all day and it was 113 degrees the first day power doesn't work either first of all i forget that people camp at coachella because it is like the most thing I would never want to do.

I mean, camping in general.

I've never want to do it ever in my life.

But to do it at Coachella with all that dust in that heat with all those people.

You're bringing your stuff there.

Like, how do you lock up your tent?

Like, are you not concerned about people stealing things?

Well, I read somewhere that like they're just concerned to try to just afford the tickets in the first place like some crazy number i don't maybe leo you can look this up at like 60 or 70 or a large percentage of people who bought their coachella tickets like bought them like on layaway like on credit 65 to 65 percent like they didn't like just like here's how much is how much is your standard ga coach ticket? It's around like 400, right? I was going to say, it used to be 375 back when I was going. Oh my God.
400 bucks for three days. General admission starts around $600.
General admission. Yeah, general admission 600, VIP 1200.
65% of people going can't afford afford it and they're paying unpainted plans. Well, I doubt that they're gonna get it for 700.
I'm sure that as people do for this stuff, they'll resale the ticket masters of it all, buy them all out from Coachella.com and then resell them for so much more. It made me think, when was the last time you bought something where you like truly couldn't afford it like you were just like i i want this so fucking bad oh my god it's so embarrassing and i i'm just gonna buy it and i have no business buying this right now do you remember what did you say leah yesterday yesterday i bought a dyson air wrap yesterday and no is that why your hair was so flippy? I bought Natalie the Dyson Airwrap like three or four years ago.
She hasn't used it once. Oh, maybe that's not true.
She used it once after I bought it for her, after I just scoured the heavens and the earth. Because this was at a time where everyone was buying it and you couldn't find it.
Listen, there's an art to it. They're hard to figure out how to work and my hair does not look good with a lot of volume i know someone a troll once told me my hair was super flat well guess what i like it that way no i mean i spent 700 bucks on it and then went home i was all excited to use it and i was like wait my hair looks horrible i couldn't figure it out i'm like i'm gonna have to go watch a bunchs.
I don't know if that's my right hair. Are you going to keep it? I'll teach you how to use it.
Please teach me. Well, I'm going to keep it.
I monogrammed it. They monogrammed it? They crammed it? I monogrammed it.
You monogrammed your air wrap? What did you put on there? Yeah. Just my name.
Was this like to make sure you couldn't return it? Because it was on sale. How much of that?

Leah.

You know what?

Like to make sure no one.

It was free to monogram.

I'm thinking like, this is my air wrap.

No one's going to get confused.

Well, your hair looks great, Leah.

It was free.

Thank you.

Did you do it this morning?

Yesterday.

Okay, sure.

It is extra flippy.

I carried.

It's like day old.

You also got a haircut.

I did.

That's crazy that you went from like, yeah, let me chop my hair off. I also need a Dyson Airwrap To curl this short hair Yeah that's what I told Sierra I don't know how many people Look good with a Dyson Airwrap Short bob Maybe it's just because I don't know how to do it No that's exactly where I went wrong Yeah that was a crazy decision crazy decision.
If it makes you feel any better, I didn't notice anything.

I don't know if that makes me feel better.

Danny didn't either.

Well, in case you don't like the outcome, I'm just here to say you look great.

I hate it.

Wait, Natalie, what's something that you thought?

The first time I ever went to LA, I went with my sister and my niece and a family friend.

Our family friend works with animals on sets, like movie sets, like make sure the animals are being properly cared for and whatever. Oh.
Yeah. So she was working in LA on some set of something and me, my sister, and my niece all came to visit her.
I was fresh out of a relationship of two years and was broke, had zero money to my name. And we went to LA.
And my sister usually like would take care of me, pay for everything, whatever. But we go to Rodeo Drive And I was broke, had zero money to my name.
And we went to LA and my sister usually like would take care of me, pay for everything, whatever. But we go to Rodeo Drive and I was like, well, I have to buy something like I want Rodeo Drive.
So I buy a Gucci purse. Well, I try to buy a Gucci purse.
I still have it. I don't think I'll ever get rid of it just because it's like this is my first.
And I went to swipe my card and she was like, oh, it's declining. And so I like looked at my bank account and I was $200 short.
So I like text my ex-boyfriend at the time. And I'm like, hey, I need $200 trying to buy this purse.
And he's like at work. I'm like calling him like, you have to take a break because I'm at the checkout.
Like they're waiting on me. I have a line behind me.
I need $200. I have to get this purse.
He's like, Natalie, we broke up. I'm like, I don't care.
I need it. And he sends me $200 and I like had four different forms of payment and bought this Gucci purse.
And the rest of the time, my sister was like, she got a purse with no money in it. I was like, you you still have that purse yeah i do i'll never get rid of it mine was uh when i was in college i was my my last year of college my fifth year yeah i was one of those guys uh my fifth year college i this is going to date me but i i brought a i bought a high definition television a 50 inch 50 inch high definition television, but this is a flip phone era.
Like keep in mind, flip phones exist at this point, not, not Apple phones, but like, and I spent my entire world. I don't want to live in that world.
Yeah. And I spent my entire like semester of student aid on, on this TV.
I decided to just get a high definition TV, which was when those TVs were like, like big houses, you know a lightweight, thin TV. It was basically a whole box.
And we drove down to Chicago to pay for it. And I was so obsessed with this TV that, again, because I didn't have an iPhone, I remember being in class in college with printouts of my TV that I was going to buy, just like looking at the printout of my TV in like some English class.
That is so embarrassing. What? And this is before like, and then I bought the TV only to then realize that like, even though I bought a high definition TV, like most things back then weren't broadcasted in high definition.
So I spent my entire semester- To still watch some grainy ass TV. It wasn't even broadcasted in high definition.
Did not know this at the time, but I was very excited. But I think it's because of the trauma I had around TVs.
Because my freshman year of college, mine and my roommate's tv was so like i don't even know where we got the tv we like found it someone would like got rid of it and neither of us had a tv because usually back then it was like well do you have a tv i have a toaster and it's like yeah sure you i'll i'll bring my toaster we'll use your tv well neither of us had tvs and we got the shitty tube tv like you know this big walkie like it was from like the 70s or whatever and we got the shitty tube TV, like, you know, this big walkie,

like it was from like the seventies or whatever. And it was so shitty that we couldn't turn it off.
So we left it on in our dorm room all semester long and put like a blanket over it. To go to bed.
Just so we could go to bed. And at the end of the semester, we threw it out the window and broke it.
We did also have, we forgot to mention this, my brother and sister-in-law with their two dogs came to visit us to, my brother is like a woodworker and does like construction type stuff. So he helped with some house projects and they brought their two dogs.
One of which was the dog that I got with an ex-boyfriend. Same ex-boyfriend.
The same ex-boyfriend who came with $200. Yes, yes, yes, yes.
We also got a dog together. We got a mini Australian Shepherd.
His name is Leo. Beautiful.
Beautiful, right? And he held him hostage when we broke up. It was this whole thing.
We all had a all had a nasty relationship. You know, I've talked about it before.

Anyways, well, when I finally got out of the relationship,

I lived in my car for a while.

So I didn't take Leo.

Because I was like, I'm living in my car.

Like, I can't take this dog.

He also wouldn't allow me to take the dog.

So then I was so sick.

I went to go see my brother-in-law, who's a doctor.

And he was like, whoa, you're like, you're skinny as hell, baby.

Why you look like this?

That's how he talks.

And I was like, I was like, I'm going through a breakup. And he was like, you, you're like, you're skinny as hell, baby.
Why you look like this? That's how he talks. And I was like, I was like, I'm going through a breakup.

And he was like, you're coming to live with us.

So I moved in with my sister, Amanda, on her farm.

And she was like, bring Leo here.

Like, he'll be fine.

So I bring him here.

Long, long, longest story ever.

He ends up in the care of my brother and my sister-in-law. Longest story ever.
We don't need to shade anybody, but that is where he is now. Currently in the hands of my brother and sister-in-law.
Well, River is now, she met him at Thanksgiving, but now she's like, loves dogs. She knows how to like pet dogs the right way.
She knows how to play with dogs. And to see the two of them together Was so sweet.
It was like my first baby and my first baby, you know Yeah Like it was really sweet Like I have a video of them where he's just sitting and he's like looking at me And she just is going up to him and like hugging him and like leaning in and giving him kisses It was so sweet and she actually can say we call him lili and she was Lele. It was really cool.
It's really sweet. We're really in our nesting era right now.
We're just, we're just, we're nesting all over, but we are nesting for sure. Why are we nesting? What do you mean? You nest when you're like pregnant and you're like about to have a baby.
Oops. I just feel like we're staying at home a lot.
You're chilling. Chilling.
I feel that. That's how I felt when I found out that Coachella was this weekend.
I genuinely had no idea. And I was sitting there on the couch on Friday being like, what? This weekend? Traffic so chill.
Missed nothing. Yes.
It's beautiful. Missed nothing.
Happy to sit at home on my couch and be like, no, I don't really need to watch any of your Coachella content. Did it feel? I watched Old Beverly Hills Housewives.
Did River not feel like your first barn in that moment? I mean. did you feel like you birthed leo i do feel like i birthed leo i feel like he's like my child who i like had to you know i was too young i had to put him up for adoption you know and like i finally find him again and like we reunite and it like he doesn't forget me which is so anyone who thinks like dogs forget them they don't he like it's so excited when we see each other and he could definitely confirm that he definitely remembers natalie for sure it's so sweet.
Anyone who thinks like dogs forget them, they don't. He like gets so excited when we see each other.

You can definitely confirm that.

He definitely remembers Natalie for sure.

It's so sweet.

A sweet reunion.

It was a sweet reunion. Did y'all see Katy Perry finally went to space?

Like this morning.

I heard like a woohoo.

Is she back?

Wait, it lasted 11 minutes.

She's back.

And Gail King.

Okay, Gail.

I just feel like people are forgetting Gail.

The photo shoots they had going into space,

I was like crazy.

Gail looked like Okay, Gail. I just feel like people are forgetting Gail.
The photo shoots they had going into space, I was like, crazy. Full blown out, facetuned, but in a good way.
Gail looked like she was regretting her decision to go on that flight. I feel like I would be super excited up until they're like, all right, get on the rocket.
And I'm like, I think I'm good. Three, two.
Hold on, hold on, hold on. It's just crazy to me that they really did that in the morning show.
Wait, wait, wait, let me think about it. It's like you're about to skydive.
Wait, wait, wait, I need a countdown. I can't do it.
Yeah. Start over, start over.
It's crazy that they literally... I'd rather go to Coachella.
Do you think Katy Perry knew? Do you think she knew that the flight takeoff was the same weekend as Coachella won? And do you think she was like, fuck?

That's why she didn't show up.

Oh.

Yeah.

She had a win-up.

It's a, there's a lot of, were there any fun celebrity sightings?

I don't, Justin Bieber went.

I did see that.

He seemed to be all right.

I did see Stormy Webster was there watching her dad, Travis Scott, set, which was really

cool.

Okay.

It was like on the shoulders of someone like watching her dad, which I think is so cool.

Patrick Schwarzenegger was there supporting his co-star. Lisa.
Is she a DJ? No, she's part of Blackpink but she was doing her solo. She's doing her solo.
Trixie Mattel DJ. We saw Kylie Jenner and Timothee Chalamet.
People were criticizing Hailey Baldwin for driving Justin Bieber and his friends around. Did you see that? I did see that.
What do you mean driving? She was driving a golf cart. God, leave this person alone.
It's like, you know, as soon as I see the golf cart, I'm like, I'm driving. Me too.
That's what I was going to say. Who doesn't fight for that? First of all, they're fun.
Second of all, you know, she recently had a child. Not sure what her drinking situation is.
She definitely could just be not drinking while everyone else is having fun. Or Justin's with his friends.
So she's like, you sit in the back with your friends and I'll drive. The way people just harass this woman is un-fucking-believable.
It's crazy. Just leave her alone.
You know what we also need? Amy Lou Wood, her teeth, leave her alone. I've been saying that.

I agree.

Mary, what's with this lazy writing from your SNL people?

I don't know.

Sometimes it's bad.

That happens a lot.

SNL did a skit trying to call the White POTUS.

I think they're, you know,

hop on the train of the White Lotus hype and stuff

and made it about Donald Trump and his family.

Yeah, they basically played the... Right, right, right the rat ratcliffe family or whatever uh anyways but amy lee wood responded to sarah sherman's portrayal of her and described it as mean and unfunny and so i was like oh i wonder i usually find like snl funny let me go watch it and it literally was so unfunny that i was like no she's right the portrayal of amy lee wood is basically what like you would say if you went to like a fourth grader and said hey can you mimic this person and you showed a picture like you showed a scene from amy and i'll and white lotus they did like what a fourth grader would do where they did the whole like showed the teeth and and like that was it that was like it was six seconds of just like mocking her teeth, that was it.
Yeah. It also just conceptually didn't make sense for the sketch because everyone, every single character, like Jon Hamm was Rick as RFK.
So it would have made sense if Sarah Sherman was Amy Liu as like Cheryl Hines, which would have been funny, but then it wasn't. But then also Amy Liu Woods said that her issue was with like the writing of SNL and did say she didn't blame Sarah Sherman.
But it's also not funny and it wasn't but then also amy lewood said that her issue was with like the writing of snl and did say she didn't blame sarah sherman but but it's also like it's just not funny and it wasn't smart no it yeah i agree you have to wear prosthetics to make a joke out of someone i feel like it's harmful have we figured out whether amy lewood and walton are uh still not confirmed is there still drama going on there i think they're still i don't know jason isaacs has been really cagey about thing. And then he was like, I'm not saying any drama.
And it's like, girl, you started saying all of this. Yeah.
All that's still confirmed is that somebody is blocked and that the tag is not coming up in the comments are still not coming up on Walton's page. He doesn't follow her on Instagram as of now.
Yeah. Blocked.
Allegedly. That's not confirmed.
Her tag does not come up and her comments disagree. But, true.
That's usually the sign of blocking, but allegedly. Did you see Jason Isaac's interview on NBC? Some news channel where he's getting interviewed about she's like trying to talk to him about the robe scene.
He was like, would you ask Margaret Qualley or Mikey Madison if like those are her actual parts? Like, no, you wouldn't. So stop asking men if like those are prosthetics or their actual parts.
Theer was like yeah i would i would ask them what those women is like no you wouldn't you would not ask and be like are those your boobs or prosthetics was that your actual vagina that i saw on like no you would never ask questions so like i was like for standing up for like that of himself he's like i'm about my penis on television. Yeah, I agree with that.
Do you think Erewhon has the right to not talk about the cockroaches? Do you think they're going to make a black screen apology? Yeah, well, people eat cockroaches. They'll find a way to elevate it and overcharge you.
They did make an apology already, though. They did say, we deeply regret that a roach was found in our tonic bar and we sincerely apologize for this lapse in our standards.
It also wasn't a single roach. It was two live roaches and one dead one.
That's a village. Where there's three, there's a family.
Yeah. There's a small community and it was under their coffee machine.
Well, that's where you're mistaken because one of them was for the smoothies. The other one was the live one.
My apologies, of course. It's probably a new collaboration.
Not that I'm saying we deeply regret that a roach was found. You know, you go to 7-Eleven.
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weekend uh streaming now on netflix uh lots of fun very definitely very like uh traders coded and we have the winner cara with us to talk about that experience what it was like to win the million dollars and survive the gauntlet fun fact she works for in and out like what a great story for having someone who went from like working in fast food

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That's 15% off your new new branch basics premium starter kit at branchbasics.com with promo code VIALL make 2025 your cleanest healthiest year yet with branch basics do we just start hi missing you so excited to be here lisa how are you we're so excited to have you i'm so pumped i'm always in your comment section fighting for my life are you excited to be oh yeah i'm always defending the girls i swear oh you're fighting with me are you arguing with my audience no just truly anyone that will um argue back with me oh okay well thanks for honestly thanks for the engagement no worries i really appreciate it sometimes I wanted to start Liza by letting you know that I too also am truly

obsessed no worries i really appreciate it sometimes i wanted to start with lisa by letting you know that i too also am truly obsessed with uh pressure washing rug cleaning content and hoof cleaning content two of my absolute favorites on the internet it's i felt very seen watching your special last night it really just i don't know has that been in your heart for a long time like how how long have you been a member of these clubs i'm like a sucker for the edit and the algorithm i don't have any more of my own opinions or thoughts like whatever is given to me is what i'm into so right now it's like little gay boys singing my heart will go on in public that's my explore page and it's it's so cute and sweet and they're so earnest and talented. And then Mudang took over my life and I still haven't let her go.
Really? That hasn't come and gone off your For You page? Absolutely not. No.
And she did for a little bit and I was livid and so they brought it back. Has she grown? Yeah.
She's like nine months now. Yeah.
Oh, is this the hippo? Yeah. I was like, is this i was like yeah she's forever captured in my mind it's just like a tiny little thing how long have you been into bravo 2006 honestly the first episode of orange county yeah the the first moments of like the what is it tacato caracata no what was was the why am I forgetting? The cul-de-sac that none of them can afford to live in now.
Yeah. No, I've been watching since the beginning and probably even before like James Lipton inside the actress studio.
Like I've been a Bravo head even before like the Andy Rain. Codo de Caza..
What is your favorite show on Bravo? Real Housewives of New York, I think. What? Not right now, but in terms of history, that has always been a big part of my life.
And I quote it the most. I would say I quote it the most.
Did you see Ramona's picture on Instagram? Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, what a Looney Tune. I don't get why her daughter won't help her.
Yeah, right. Avery's too busy with her business.
She's like throwing bachelorette parties. She's like, I don't have time, Mom.
Has she commented on the Photoshop or is she just kind of out there pretending everything's fine? It's not her first rodeo. All the housewives who do this were they foos to one image but not the other one so i don't think they care yeah but wasn't there one daughter that helped her mom there was someone that posted a crazy photo and the daughter was like she blamed the daughter no the daughter went take this down mom and then it happened but i forgot which person it was the single ally in the group the comments under ramona's like she looks like a newborn baby it's it's i mean i don't get it because it's like who was it the millionaire matchmaker went on watch what happens live and andy goes you look good why are you doing this to your face like that oh yeah no yeah she was promoting the show i did with her oh my god yeah and andy was like you look good why are you fucking up your face on the internet? No, it was like, yeah, it was like Patty was out there promoting it.
And I'm just like, what is she doing? And then finally, yeah, Andy asked her about it. It was like a totally different person.
But when I promoted, when I posted for it, I posted the photo and then Patty DM me and she told me that CW Corporate wanted me to delete that photo and put it up because it wasn't approved. Like the one I-unquote wasn't approved by corporate and i definitely did not believe her so i just it just like wasn't edited of her just like so actually the um network doesn't want this photo out there you need to remove it the network wants a ai photoshop version that doesn't look anything like you like i don't know about that patty i love the i love.
Yeah, it's a commitment. No, yeah, stick to it.
No, she was fully committed to it. So are you watching The Little Summer House right now? Yeah, no.
Now I understand what you're saying is like right now, what I'm into for sure, the summer house, the breakup. I think it's all very compelling.
How are you? Where are you sitting with like the Lexi-Jesse relationship? It's like humiliating. I don't know what happens in that house where these like girls get so, but they're also love bombing and lying to these women.
So, I mean, it's diabolical. I would say it's diabolical.
And you know, he didn't just get his toe sucked. It's crazy.
37 minutes. I don't know.
We need to get Jesse on and just break down each minute of these 37 minutes like well what was going on in minute six like because you can't you know like at that point you're still watching you're just looking when will he start telling the truth that's i guess you could watch but he must have jerked off in the corner while watching like there's no way yeah he was just in there and like there's just no answer that i'm not

pissed about you know like at the end of the day it was a threesome and like there was naked body parts and you were watching the naked body parts and i'm not interested in that you know no and it's totally okay if you're into that why are you tricking this woman into being um boyfriend and girlfriend and like i that's what i don't understand you could just be a single tall sexy man in the house. No, Lisa,

what's crazy is the, like, switch

up from his confessionals to like what he's saying in front of her like he like he knows they're gonna put that seconds after he knows how the show works and he just has no shame in his confessionals I think he's just kind of trying out what it like you know like what it feels like to have a girlfriend he fought cancer. I just feel like Jesse gets a free pass for at least a year or two.
The cancer pass. I agree.
I don't know. You're right.
Why lie? Why lie? It just doesn't make sense. That's what I'm saying.
You're already tall. People already expect it from you.
Why are you pretending you want to be in a relationship when you literally could have the freedom to do whatever and nobody could get mad at you because you're not putting labels on it?

Yeah. And Lexi probably would have by the end still been into it.
But she also really wants

it too, you know? Yeah, I know. But it's like that's like agreeing to do something.
That's

like saying I'm going to not eat sugar for a week knowing that I just bought a bunch of cookies,

candy, whatever. Like you're going to Summer House.
You're going to go be at parties every

weekend getting hammered off of your face. Like why not wait till the summer's over and get a girlfriend for the city? Like you can have fun and flirt.
That's like why we enjoy the show. There's a way to flirt without a full blown line.
You know, Lexi confronting Sierra about the like flirting. She's like, I just like know y'all are brother and sister.
She's too Canadian. Yeah.
I mean, they're definitely not brother and sister. You know too Canadian.
They're definitely not brother and sister. Even Sierra's face when she was saying it was just kind of like, okay, that's an interesting take on that.
This is dark, but if you're over 18, incest is legal. It's frowned upon, and we don't like it, but it's not.
This whole thing of like brother and sister. It's like, I don't know.
I could, you know, they're white Lotus. Some people are legal, but Lexi, it's just so immature.
The following, like I kind of miss that era of life too. I don't know.
I don't see who people follow or like, like that's not, I wouldn't even I wouldn't even know how to like look it up. I really appreciated the whole meeting the parents bit because I think meeting someone's parents is the most overrated like milestone in an early relationship that like everyone freaks out about and acts like it's the biggest deal in the world.
And I kind of love that like Lexi was this like, in somewhat fairness to jesse minus the fact that he also beat cancer which i kind of give him a pass but like she's just like i want to try to make this man my boyfriend and i i want to make this like former fuck boy i want to i want to lock him up and i'm gonna i'm gonna insist that i meet his parents she kind of owned that was like of her doing jesse was like this is way faster than I would introduce anyone to my parents, but like, whatever, she wants to. So like, I guess it's just like, sure, I can meet or introduce her to my parents because it really doesn't mean anything.
And, but people always freak out about the milestones of meeting parents. I just kind of loved it.
It kind of showed just how like unserious it is. Even for a guy who even says that if he had it his way he would have waited much longer but she was like yeah I guess if you really want to we can go ahead and meet Terry and Jill now he's having a coughing attack so we're just gonna let her deal with that I feel you I have no opinion about the parent thing I don't know I just uh i don't care i think it's weird what's more weird that she wanted to meet the parents or that jesse uh yeah that it's such a because she does she has such a weird she has a different relationship with her parents right they're clubbing they're vacationing like you can't assume everyone else has that relationship with their parents it was actually actually like a non-thing.
But, like, I don't know. I was, I kind of loved it just for other people.
I'm sure after they did it, Jesse was like, this is a maniac. Don't worry about this.
Like, I don't, you know, I'm sure off camera he was like, you'll never see this woman again. My favorite part was that they're not boyfriend and girlfriend, but they are exclusive and they have met each other's parents.
But he's like, we're not boyfriend and girlfriend. Or maybe Lexi said that.
I forget. But it's like the most insane thing in the world.
And then Carl was like, congrats. I heard.
Yeah. It's like, is it that big of a deal? But it is.
Yeah. I don't get the sub level of exclusive versus boyfriend and girlfriend.
The dimensions of dating these days. Yeah.
I don't understand the exclusive, but not boyfriend and girlfriend. It's so hard to see dogs on a screen and not be able to touch them.
Have y'all ever had that? A coughing, like where you are so embarrassed. You're like, it's a little tickle in your throat.
And you're like, this is going to be. And everyone's going to ask you if you're OK because you're going to look like you're dying.
Yeah. Yes.
Been there. I've done it on this couch.
Glad I'm in a safe space. No, I have a disgusting cough because I've been sick, but then I'm better, but I won't

stop smoking weed for the life of me.

And so the cough stays forever.

I hear you, girl.

Oh, really?

Cool.

And people are like, what about edibles and drinks?

I'm like, it's not the same.

It's not the same.

I want a joint.

It's definitely not the same.

Yeah.

I don't have 45 minutes just to sit there and wait for that sweet release to kick in.

I don't like...

You're trying to economize.

I think it's kicking in.

Nope.

Yeah, right?

That's where I'm taking another one and then being like, oh, shit.

And you really don't know it's kicked in until after you're kind of like...

You know?

Yeah.

And it took you 20 more minutes to realize that you've been high for 20 minutes?

Yes.

It's only good if you're at a pool all day.

That's an edible day.

Okay.

Because then you're just floating and you're like, Oh, nice. But other than that, I need it down to the business and I want it to burn.
I wish there was more potheads on Bravo. You know that they're all smoking weed at summer house and it's all on Tik Tok.
No, I didn't know that. There's a video of amanda and she's uh maybe western jesse posted it but she's wearing the parrot head and she's just smoking a joint through it and they're all just like kiki-ing before they go outside to the party but yeah oh yeah amanda amanda gives huge pothead oh yeah yeah and i say that with love amanda if you're listening and you feel judged i relate it's like do i have to leave my apartment why i have everything everything I need right here.
She's like Jennifer Aniston to me. Yeah.
Just delicate little jewelry, cute outfits, fun, likable. I like her a lot.
As I said, Paige is known for the fashionista, but Amanda has such great day-to-day style that nobody recognizes it, but she is a little fashionista herself. Yeah, and she could dress so casual and still look so elevated.
Like you want to wear what she's wearing, where it's like Paige is like, that's a moment where Amanda's like, can I just have your clothes? I know, Paige was wearing like a Prada dress just at the barbecue. Yeah.
I couldn't believe it. I'm like, she's doing well.
And especially around barbecue sauce, you know? Yeah, you're not worried. They were cracking seafood, like butter.
You know, listen, it was also the same episode where she constantly just reminded us that between her and Craig, she makes

way, way, way more money than him.

So she was just like, I don't even

care if I get a stain. I'm whatever.

I'm wearing Prada. I'll buy it again.

I'll buy it again. I make more money

than Craig. It's fine.

She makes more money than everybody. She said she was gonna buy Loverboy

and sell it if Kyle didn't get his act together.

God, that was so cool. It was such a good comeback.
Well, that's the one thing in the comments that I have to get a life. But the audience doesn't get how much more successful she is than him.
Really? Yeah, a lot of the Bravo accounts are like, God, she's so cocky. Oh, she's delusional.
She's this. And I'm like.
She was on Jimmy Fallon. She has a Tr a tresemme ad you guys like there's no way these pillows are competing yeah i don't know she's got that tresemme money kroger lisa what are they saying about her about page in that context like she she needs to go back to craig because like she won't be able to take care of herself or what are they what are they saying so the Valters upset posted.
That's like this account.

I mean, yeah, I'm like deep. I gotta read

a book. But

basically people think that she's

out of line and delusional and there's no

way that she's more successful than Craig

and that comment was out of line

that she was the breadwinner. It's giving

Southern term fans. Yeah, and it was

very much like, ugh, that tour, that's

a once in a what- I'm like, selling out Radio

City Music Hall. Three times in a row?

Is truly I don't know how they're trying to make it seem not as amazing as it is. Right.
Or just their pod. Paige is really rich.
The Amazon Live. Her apartment.
Her apartment. I was like, okay, this is a set from Sucks in the City.
She's got a chandelier. She's got a foyer.
She's Carrie fucking Bradshaw. No, she's Charlotte York.
She is Charlotte. I still don't think Craig needed to defend her during those rumors, but she definitely does make way more money than him.
No, he didn't have to, but then to act like, well, I'm just a little good boy when you're like alluding to these rumors is annoying i don't like the way he's trying to frame himself as some victim of something well yeah they're both definitely trying to win the breakup that they both told us was totally amicable and very chill and i remember being like i don't know i feel like it's gonna get messy and it did it was fun it did what did you uh make you make of Lindsay being like, well, your little girlfriend, the home wrecking whore, like that whole scene at the Shabbat dinner. I'm a Lindsay Hubbard apologist.
I have been for years. I really like the TV she brings for me.
And I'm loving that Paige and her have this new little friendship. Friendship, yeah.
And I love Paige's take of like, yeah, Lindsay is wrong, doesn't care, was like, I guess I'm wrong, and continued. Like, no shame.
It's beautiful to watch. She was like, Lindsay Hubbard raised me, and it was just like remembering them fighting seasons apart, and she's like, nope, that woman.
I love her. I will say it was so funny to watch Paige have that moment in the beginning where she's like, listen, Lindsay Hubbard does not admit when she's wrong.
And then to have her be like, you were seeing this bitch while we were talking. Prove it.
Prove it. And then he proves it.
She's like, but still, you need to tell her. You know, it's like she couldn't be like, all right, I fucked up.
It's like we literally saw it happen. Tell your girlfriend to get her timeline straight.
I really appreciate Lindsay because it felt a bit performative in a sense. But like,, honestly to me, it's just like, put this woman on Roni.
Like, I think Lindsay knew she's just like, I've been hanging out in this bedroom while people go out every fucking night. I need to get in some of this action.
I'm protecting my piece too much. I'll just, you know what? I'm going to fucking just make Carl's life a living hell for one more night.
And like, I think she absolutely it was an amazing performance and it was really quite lovely and it really honestly like it made me miss Lindsay this whole season because she's been really chilling like she really can deliver at a moment's notice and she let kind of Carl get a burn in on her and it did like with the you have a bad taste in people and he was like yeah, yeah, clearly kind of gave him that. It was, but wasn't offended.
Yeah, she was there to riff. It was just fun and fighting without the aftermath of darkness.
Yes, over Shabbat. What is your reaction to your ex-boyfriend saying he prays for you? Anyone saying that is like, I would hit him in his neck like that.
I would be so upset. like bless your heart you know it's like so rude what if he topped it off by calling you ma'am ma'am i'll pray for you wow would you be okay i would be pissed i'd be pissed i would i would break a glass i can't drop it i would be so please i can't drop ma'am sir i can't i it.
You can't get rid of it. I love it so much.
She is from the South, though. It's just so insulting to me.
I'm like, I'm still in my head like a young girl. I don't think it means you're old.
It just means that I respect you. Oh, yeah.
I don't know. If a 23-year-old dude was like, yes, ma'am, I'd be like, all right, I'm going to go make an appointment at the plastic surgery.
You wouldn't be like, oh, that's kind. He's like respecting me.
He's just being like, I'm going to be like, how old do you think I am? You think sir is also means like someone's old. I don't know if I've ever said sir to anyone unless I'm like, I'm being a bitch.
Yeah. Sir is condescending to me.
Sir. I'll tell you the last time I said sir, this is a wild story.
This happened five years. I remember this so well, but I ordered Postmates home state.
And when I went outside to meet the delivery driver, he was feeding the taco to a German shepherd that was on the sidewalk. Shut the fuck up.
And I said to him, sir, I think that's my food. I think that's the last time I said, sir.
I was like, what? Oh, the other time was when my Uber driver fell asleep in Salt Lake City on the highway when it was veering into the medium. I went, sir, wake up.
Wake up. Like, that's how I use sir.
Wait, I have so many questions about your taco with the German shepherd. I can't.
We went back and forth for a little bit. His excuse

to me was, I thought you lived in this other house. That was his response when I said,

I think you're feeding my food to this dog. He's like, I thought it was your dog.
I thought

you sent the dog out because he was hungry. He said, if this was your dog, you'd be happy.

I'm doing this right. Like taking care of it.
I'm like, no, you shouldn't feed dogs cheese

and sour cream either. Like if it was a stray, I would help.
But Postmates called me back immediately. I've never had customer service like call so fast when it was like my food's been fed to a dog.
I don't know. Yeah, I bet they were like, oh my goodness, girl on the phone right now.
It's crazy. They only offered me $5.
I was like, you gotta...

$5? I need a little bit more of a

credit, please. That should have been a TikTok video.

BuzzFeed would have picked that up instantly.

I should have been more on top of it.

Yeah. Did you see the

Kyle Richards and Teddy Mellencamp

video over the weekend that

she got into a fight with a dog walker

and she's like, it looks almost like Kyle

instigated it. Can someone show it? What was it? You haven't seen this? I do wish the best for Teddy.
I'm glad she's out. Well, Teddy was there and then Kyle's hiding behind her while she's filming this woman.
I think Kyle got mad at the woman for her dog's... There's a second of the dog kind of being dragged a little bit.
But there's also a context of they were recording them for a lot longer than what we see. The recordings were, because in my head, if I get, I live in New York, so whatever, bumping happens, and then sometimes you realize like, oh, this person might hit me, and then I would leave.
I don't get continuing to talk to someone that is clearly going to hit you. Yeah.
And can hit you. If you need to hide behind someone, walk away.
And your friend has brain cancer. If you keep like running away from this person but not leaving the vicinity, there's an issue here.
She just keeps like running in circles. No, this recently happened.
I bumped in with this guy. We were both yelling at each other and then I was like, oh, I don't want to get got like I don't need the last word here I'm gonna get the fuck out of here

I do need Kyle or Teddy or

someone to come out on their Instagram

stories and give us some context

but you saw that woman right like

when someone calls me ma'am that's what I think

they think I am like that woman

fighting

that's that's how I feel when I

get do you think when she threw off the whatever

she threw off that was the moment Kyle called

her ma'am

absolutely

I'm hurt. Do you think when she threw off whatever she threw off, that was the moment Kyle called her ma'am? Absolutely.
She said, what did you call me? What's crazy is that morning, I watched Teddy post a story being like, I'm getting out. I'm on a walk with my girls.
And it's like the beginning of that walk. And she's with Kyle and she's with the other woman.
And she's like, happy to be outside, happy to be on a walk. And it's like, well, that walk and she's with Kyle and she's with the other woman and she's like happy to be outside happy to be on a walk and it's like well this is how it ended I need some context.
It's like the plot of an Agnes Varda movie. Yeah hopefully they'll go on a live soon.
I need a live. Did you see the end of the video where a security guard does show up and they let the woman go so I think it was like a diffusion of like I hope they would let her go.
What would they detain her? I think Kyle and them, whatever reason they thought they were on the right, that's where they were recording. So, I mean, that's always the best when someone records and posts it.
And then everyone's like, you're wrong. It's like the Jersey Mike situation.
Yes. I bet Kyle's been a Karen out in the wild.
Oh yeah. I definitely see that happening.
She's asked for a manager. You've missed the mark today.
Do you know who my family is? I feel like she's done the, do you know who I am? Yeah. Oh, she has ruined a Hilton employee's life.
Yeah. That's actually my flaw as a person, too.
If my hotel room is not ready in time, I do get more upset than I'd like. Oh, I've been fighting with people on the phone for far too long about deliveries.
We're supposed to get a rug delivered, which first of all, why they set this up this way, they set it up for like a white glove delivery. Like I don't need someone to bring this in.
It's a rug. Leave it on my doorstep.
Like I'll roll it out whenever I feel like rolling out. But they delivered it to a third party delivery center.
And they've pushed my delivery date four times now. And now they're like, oh, it's too busy.
They can't put it on the truck. And I was like, well, can I come pick it up? And they're like, well, you have to get confirmation from the sender.
And I'm like, well, put them on the phone. Call them right now.
Well, three-way. He's-way he's like no they gotta send an email i'm like i i don't even want you to do this like i just wanted it ups dropped off at my door i didn't sign up for this and i've been yelling at people for so long i was pretty impressed though i'm enraged for you fighting the fight did they get it no still not No.
I have a feeling they lost it and they're like,

sorry. No, literally.

I said,

he said, ma'am, it's not going to be that hard to get you your rug. And I

said, well, if it's not going to be that hard, I need you to

drive. Get in your car.
I need you to

drive to the warehouse. I need you to put my rug

in your personal car and then drive it

to my house. He's like, not going to

happen. And I'm like, well, how can

I make sure that I never, ever let

a package that I'm having delivered

I'm going to be. And I'm like, well, how can I make sure that I never, ever let a package that I'm having delivered be delivered to your warehouse? He's like, I don't understand the question.
I don't know how I can make it any clearer. I never want to work with you people again.
I was really impressed. It wasn't the craziest customer service experience we had recently.
We were flying back to LA with our daughter. And we've flown with her, I don't know, how many times? 20 times? 100.
100 times. I'm not even going to name the airline because it's not even the airline's fault.
And we were checking in. And if you fly with an infant under two, you have to just call them up and be like, hey, I got an infant under two.
Here's their birthday. They're our child.
And they're like, great. You're ready to go.
And we didn't do that when we booked the flight. So a couple of times we've done this before.
You go up to the front desk. You're like, hi, we have our child is confirming just at Amman.
And this person, this lady was just like, well, can I see a birth certificate? We're like, excuse me? And they And they're like, yeah, no, we're going to need a birth certificate. And I'm like.
And then she says, or a record of her shots. I was like, huh? I'm sorry.
You think I got her from the pound? Like a record of her shots. And we were just like kind of startled.
And like our flight was like, you know, we had like an hour to go. So a little panicked.
And she's yeah i'm just gonna need to see something i'm like we've flown with her for like a like several times we've never been asked for this then she says well do you have a photo of her in the hospital i'm like ma'am are you just trying to see pictures of my baby i'm scrolling through my phone and i'm looking at like literally delivery photos of like natalie He's about to show her the video of me giving birth. Because all I'm scrolling through my phone and I'm looking at like literally delivery photos of like Natalie and River.
Like he's about to show her the video of me giving birth. Because like all I'm thinking is like I'm certainly, we need to get home.
Certainly not going to leave my kid. And this person is literally pretending.
Like what was crazy is we finally figured out that she had no idea what she was talking about. And she's just like making up documents that she thought we should have.
And then finally, I literally showed her a photo of Natalie in the hospital bed holding river. She's like, oh, okay.
She's like, well, you know, you really should. And I'm like, yeah, I really don't think we need this.
And she's like, well, you know, you really should just like bring, you know, some extra documentation just in case. Basically, she was like, just in case you meet someone like me, who is just going to randomly ask for documents that you don't need and then she's like you never know who you could trust as if she like just got done like watching some kind of like dark web documentary on like child trafficking like she definitely had just got done watching that was making sure that like our child was ours but it was just kind of freaky to think about how this this person who's like working the front counter at the airline was just making up random rules for the airline.
Like in terms of like whether they could allow an infant child on the flight or not. It was kind of slightly terrifying.
And we literally had to show her a photo of Natalie in a hospital bed to get our daughter on an airline. It was crazy.
And it's not like the baby fresh born looks like your baby now. It could be any random baby too if you were trafficking.
Babies do look the same. That's exactly what I said.
And she was like, well, there's no photos on a birth certificate. And I'm like, no, I get that.
But you just switched what your ask was. It started with birth certificate.
And then do you have any photos of her in the hospital? Yeah, and in between sandwiched in between shot records.

Like, huh?

I hope it was like a fun prank that the

employees were doing. Like, go

ask to do that. Yeah, they meet

in the break room and they're like, oh my god, I got

the best people.

Yeah. I literally saw her vagina.

I had a

customer service thing wildly yesterday

so I know Drybar is always going to have

not great service. It's kind of, but I landed yesterday.
I wanted to look good. I wanted my blowout for today.
So I made an appointment for five o'clock. They called me two days ago going, can you actually come at four 30? We're closing early.
I go, okay, show up at four 30. They do not take me until 525.
That's insane, bro. I got out of my blow dry at 617.
I got there at 430. No.
Did you say anything? Well, once the woman was done, finally, with her blowout, her other client, she comes and goes, I actually have to take my legally state mandated break. I go, what?

She goes,

I have to take a break.

It's the law.

So either my break or if he finishes first,

he'll take you.

And I went,

okay,

I just,

if I came at five,

I wouldn't be that mad.

But you guys asked me to come early.

She goes,

I'll bring you champagne.

I go,

fine.

The bottle.

But then I,

I, I didn't have anywhere to go, so I couldn't be that mad. I didn't have any plans.
Yeah, but now you're just stuck. Yeah, I went out.
I smoked a joint. I drank champagne.
I read a town and country. It wasn't that bad.
Have you ever been convinced to order a particular piece of whatever it is in store? You go to a store and you're like, oh, we don we can order it for you like no it's okay but it'll be free shipping and you're like okay like sure I guess like I just spent 10 minutes like searching our back shipment for like this size of shirt and we don't have it so you might as well just order it because I spent so much time you're like oh okay sure let's order it we did that in a store where we ordered it in person because the girl, and I was going to order it online. The girl really was pushing.
I'm like, she really wants that commission.

She wants that commission really bad. And then it has, I haven't gotten any notification

about like, oh, it's shipped. It's on the way.
Nothing. So we go into the store yesterday and

Nick's like, it's almost like we gave you our money for nothing. She was like, oh, well,

let me just get right on that right now. Did you guys get the coffee table? I go, no.
It's almost like we didn't actually buy it, but still gave you money. We still don't.
We still don't have it. Are you getting the table? We hope so.
We haven't gotten any updates. So we'll see.
Are you watching Housewives of Atlanta? I am. I am.
Where do you stand on the nudes? I didn't know how I was going to feel because the photos did exist, but I also think that's pretty gross. And then watching it was so dark.
So dark. Watching it was upsetting.
It felt like Kenya was in a trance. The rage I saw on her face was blinding her to this huge event for her.
She wants this for her daughter, the salon, and to do that and big misstep. And it sucks she messed up this season and career.
I don't know. It's really a bummer.
And then when they showed the footage of the original accusation of the claim that Brent made the threat, it honestly was way more watered down than I anticipated. I don't know what you thought but she was like when she's like well I have whips I have pistols she didn't even say gun she said pistols and then afterwards I'm pretty sure I heard like Kenya in the background explaining to someone that like pistols means the same as guns as if like even in that moment she was like wait did you hear what she said and like she said pistols as if it was like i guess maybe she technically shouldn't have said that but i don't know it really kind of gave me it gave me the same energy of of ben still around meet the parents when he's saying bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb like it was like is this really a threat or is this he is she saying something she probably shouldn't have said she probably should apologize for like it wasn't like i'm gonna kill you i have a gun you better not be back when i get here i'm gonna blow you away that's the energy kenya is acting like you know brit threw her way and it was just like kind of a nothing statement and then she pulls out the poster boards it was it was so dark and brit came to apologize she brought the bouquet she said she was ready to apologize.
So for Kenya to like continue on that journey with the photos is pretty. Yeah.
And then we're finding out that like from this episode, it was photos when Brit refers herself as a teenager. And then I think Portia is the one now claiming this when she was underage.
It's unclear if that's true. Now, who's making that? Justin, can you catch us up here? Who's making the claim that someone else from the cast sourced these photos? Basically, Portia posted a video where it was like teasing like an interview she was doing.
And she basically was like, well, here's the tea. Like someone from this cast that's currently on Atlanta gave Kenya the videos.
Kenya commented on that post saying, absolutely no one on the show gave me anything. Stop using my situation as clickbait.
To which Portia responded to her comment saying, that's a lie. We talked day and night and I personally went to network slash production and fought for you before you showed her underage explicit pics.
I also went after as well because I was hurt you had to leave. I checked on you because I cared and care.
Basically, she was just like, this is a lie. Someone gave it to you.
You also shared it. It was underage.
So that's what Portia's claiming. And gave it to her, why would Kenya deny that? Yeah, that's the part where...
Now it's either somebody gave it to you and said that this was a good idea and encouraged this to happen or you went and dug it up yourself, posted it out. I want to know who printed it on the foam court.
Who went to the house? That's what I want to know. Because I think that contradicts her claim

of being like,

it's not revenge porn,

it's all over the internet.

Like,

all I had to do

was just search her name

and if someone gave it to her,

then that means

it was a little bit more

under the table.

Got you.

Well,

I think it depends on

which cast member you're asking

because I know some

cast members out on Lana

are saying like,

revenge porn's a loaded term,

like,

it was wrong,

but also might be something else. You have Britt admitting that she was wrong on watch what happens live.
Like I think the story is still developing for sure. Well, what do you mean by it's a loaded term? It's a, it's pornographic content and it was used in a form of revenge.
Well, it's actually the porn. The definition of porn is it's two consensual people.
Okay. And so a lot of times with revenge porn, if someone's taping something and it wasn't meant for other things, it's not porn because it's not consenting.
And revenge makes it seem like someone deserved them being leaked. So in like government and criminal terms, they try to change the language of it because revenge means you deserved it and porn means it was consented upon.
So that's why like forgetting change the language is fuck for child stuff it's uh child sex abuse images i forget the adult term of like but it's it's just uh that's why that term is fucked up yeah but i don't know if in the context of this because if it was a consensual thing but yeah that's what it sounds like. It's like her boyfriend at the time filmed an act but I don't know about the like displaying it or where it went like did Brit know that it was being displayed or like did this person put it on the internet and make money off of it without her consent? That I don't know.
Yeah but even when Brit was saying how she like you know when she was younger she did some like only fan content or she was like a cam girl webcam stuff like girl yeah even if she like again well let's say if she was an only fans model for a period of time like and then decided not to do it anymore like just because it's out there doesn't allow someone to like go out there and then try to weaponize it against you in a public forum and like shame you and try to embarrass you and like ruin your reputation amongst your peers just because you agreed to like be an only fans model for a period of time like that doesn't make it okay and king is out there acting like the world agrees that like somehow like this is a wrong for her to do but she just shows to put it out there and it's like fair game which is like bonkers no that's what some of my before the episode aired that those were discussions i was having out and about with other comics or like just with some friends and they're like well it was already out and then watching it it just was dark and uncomfortable and wrong and like she went in with an intention of apologizing and i think it was expected that a scene was gonna happen to where it would make whatever happened next with kenya sense. But unfortunately, where it's like Brit, not unfortunately, but just like the actuality of it was Brit left and then you still chose to move forward with that.
I wonder how she felt right after the party. Like everyone leaves, your best friends leave.
The vibe is wrong. Like I wonder when it hit her that she messed up.
I don't think she feels like she's in the wrong though. You're saying Kenyaya yeah yeah i mean she definitely got a call from production being like girl but then but production must have known those photos are coming out like that's the thing with production that's the one thing that doesn't make sense to me is just like the the whole printing out on the poster board bringing the poster board to the event space that they had it is it is very hard to believe that no one saw these posters or no one was like, hey, what are these things that these props that you're bringing? That's very hard to believe that no one saw those.
That's the part that's missing for me. Because wasn't Portia defending it a little where it's like, or maybe I'm mixing things up, but it's like, if production knew they used her for this story and then to boot her off is like.
Because Portia also did imply that Kenya, she said she didn't know, but if Kenya comes back next season. So it's a lot of like and Kenya said she's still on the payroll when she did Tamron Hall.
So it's like there's so many details of the story that we don't fully know. Well, and with Bravo, it's always hard because it's like, what is the line? Because, you know, the pulling of the ponytail and jersey, there's all these things and they're never consistent with what they decide to punish people with.
Jennifer Aiden smashed a glass on Danielle's face last season and there was like, let's continue, or the other way around, but let's continue filming. And then a threat, so it's kind of hard to see where the line is when it comes to Bravo pulling people.
It's even interesting because like in like season one of Beverly Hills, you have the morally corrupt Faye Resnick.

And it's like they don't show anything, but they're actively talking about like Camille's like Playboy spread and Faye's Playboy spread.

And that's just like used. You know what I mean? It's just such a different time now.

And I think Bravo is still trying to figure out what is OK and like not OK. It's it's interesting.
Even in VPR, they did the roast of Jax and they showed the picture of like Jax's dick pic. But it was also Jax.
So so it's just like that's where Kenya and her fan base has been operating on like a double standard standard critique. And that's where I think we just don't know the whole story.
Yeah. I mean, if Bravo is wrong in this story, maybe so.
And maybe there's things we haven't learned. But the way Kenya is acting is like, if Bravo's wrong, then that somehow makes her look a little better.
I don't see that. I think she can be both completely wrong.
And if Bravo in any way is complicit or there's a producer who should be fired or something like that, I don't think that in any way lets Kenya off the hook. No.
She just has an accomplice. It was uncomfortable to watch.
It was bad to watch and that's what I'm going off of. But I did want to say, Brit did one of my least favorite things.
I don't like when a housewife is new and comes in too hard with her preconceived notions. She really, Kenya wasn't even that mean to her.
It really, I don't like what she did there. She did instigate that there was more of an issue there

than just like, pull her aside.

Oh, that was a side hug, not a real hug.

Like, get a life.

You commented on my ring.

You came about my marriage.

And it's just like, it's a huge ring.

Yeah.

She's just asking if that's the first one you've ever gotten.

Yeah.

I like Shamia.

I'm just glad Shamia's there.

You know who I'm tired of, though?

Drew.

I'm like tired of the Drew Sedora.

I'm tired of Dennis.

I'm like, I don't understand why we're playing playing dumb yet you say something to put your foot in your mouth every episode and then be like no but i'm a girl's girl no she's just like my stars and my moon and my son and he's just giving me a new life but like i'm not doing anything weird and it's like stop it yeah stop it immediately but i think this season more than others i'm seeing Portia's kind of a hater. I'm sure Portia is being a hater.
She's one of my favorites. I loved her on girls' trip.
I want to float in a pool with her. I love Portia.
On two edibles. She's one of the most beautiful, I think, of all the women.
And like, I don't know, being like, oh, is that your voice? This is your best friend from childhood. That was crazy.
Showing up to your best friend's birthday so late.

I don't know.

It's hard to watch Portia be such a hater.

Portia's the Craig to Page, the hater boyfriend,

the hater best friend.

That's not you saying that was true.

That's another thing why I'm in the comments.

That bothers me so much.

You should want a partner that's like,

I'm going to go on the road with you.

Holy shit, what can I do? Not Someone making you watch an ABBA documentary.

I mean,

love ABBA,

but not in that context.

Yeah.

It's so,

why wasn't it a discussion that Craig would just kind of like tour with

page?

Like,

was that never just,

I don't think he would want to be the plus one.

She thought he was going to.

And then he was kind of like,

well,

what's the plan?

Like if you,

if you're going to be leaving,

like what about me? And she's like, wait, I thought that there was a we, not a you versus I. So he kind of created the wedge that happened there with, like, this insecurity that didn't need to be there.
Did you enjoy your time with Wes on Watch What Happens Live? Yes, I couldn't believe it. I was planning all day to be a little sassy to him.
And then he was just so charming and kind. And it was awesome.
Were you I'm guessing you were team Sierra last season. Oh, of course.
Of course. I don't like the love bombing and the lying.
It's and the parents like I guess maybe I'm older. Like I do think if you're taking someone as a date to a wedding and to meet your parents and you're doing, I don't know, apple picking seems like she's going to fall in love with.
And then you being like, but I didn't actually say I wanted to be exclusive. It's like, okay, but she's allowed to fall for you in that way and be hurt and upset.
Absolutely. But it is embarrassing that she still wants to make out with him.
Yeah. We've all been there.
But also so real. Yeah.
He is weirdly charming. Like, there is something about him that you just cannot dislike him.
I think he saw it. Oh, the one funny thing.
And we went out till two in the morning, but I have to stop going out with younger people. I was laying on my floor.
I was wrecked. I heard the Taco Bell get delivered, and I couldn't even move to go get it.
Like, I was out by two in the morning, but he was awesome. But then we went out after and I think it's because I'm from the former.
So he was like, I thought they brought us on to talk about Ukraine. I go, watch what happens live.
He thought that we were going to talk about the war. Oh, Wes.
But he DM me in the day watching my special. He's like, what are we going to drink tonight? And then I sent him a photo watching the reunion from last year.
And he's like, please, God, can you watch anything else? But I wanted to prep. And he brought Jen Fessler.
It was just a dream. I couldn't believe I got to play the game and win and do a shot ski.
I mean, it was. Have you met Andy before? I bartended.
Okay. Okay.
So I bartended once. I was in the audience twice.
And then I finally, but that was his third taping of the day. He's a busy guy.
Yeah. They'll do multiple tapings a day.
Oh, I didn't know that. Sometimes they're not all live anymore just because he's so busy.
I don't think they've been live for a long time. But ours was live.
They're live where they have a live studio audience live. It's always like, it always feels live.
No, ours was live. Yours was live live? Ours was live live.
Let's go. Yours was live live.
Ours was live live and one of my good friends from LA flew it like it was just a huge moment for the group chats the friend groups like everything but then also the bartender was from Top Chef it was Chef Eric's from season 16 so that was even huge huge yeah it was exciting I just wish I wasn't taking shot after shot after shot. And I wish I was meaner to him a little bit.
But he is great. I liked him.
He's got that charisma. And he's taller than you'd think, too.
I think it's just because he's around all these tall guys. He was like a full football player, right? Yeah, he was a college football player.
Man. What's your andy uh i mean i've went in what way i don't like have i don't know just secret secret lovers yes no i mean i'm a huge fan of it i mean i got to meet him a long time ago i was on watch what happens live for the first time when i was the bachelor which was really a cool moment and so like you know i'm a big fan of his i i i look up to him as someone who's very good at his job like doing what we do here but like when we see each other he says hi but that's you know that's the extent of our relationship i wish i wish we were best friends but that's you know hasn't happened i know i want to get stoned with him and sarah jessica parker and amy sedaris oh my god up in his like couch room that we saw.
But he is so good at his job. And I wish he was more in the conversation when people talk about late night talk show hosts and stuff.
It's annoying. He's not.
He is so good. He's the closest thing we have to Debra Vance in real life.
Yeah. Oh, I haven't watched the new season yet.
It's really good. I can't wait.
It's really good. You've already talked about Walton Goggins and Amy Liu and the Instagram stuff.
Do you have more knowledge? No, I was going to ask you guys for Inside Scoop What do you guys think it is? It's like the one thing I'm so Obsessed with right now I want to know I think he's got a wife And I think his wife Was just like I think she did something that irritated her I think boundaries or some sort of line was crossed I think his wife was just like, I think she did something or that irritated her.

I think boundaries or some sort of line was crossed.

I think, yeah, my personal belief is there's like, there's an onset world for their relationship.

And then maybe once that ends, then the communication ends, is my theory.

I said, allegedly, somebody on Walton's side blocked Amy Because her comments no longer show Up under his photos they're Not following each other and the tags She's not tagged in any photo but he's tagged Every cast member in like A 20 carousel slide With silver springs by Fleetwood Mac in the background So okay There's a lot I just Wanted to ask I just yeah Yeah I wish you knew some because like yeah we don't know any more than anyone else right no i just want an audition for season four that's what everyone wants put it out there right now yeah uh you have your special out night owl streaming now on netflix it's hilarious it's a lot of fun uh everyone should it out. Can you plug anything else that you want to put out there? Thank you.
I have a podcast, That's Messed Up, an SVU podcast, and we recap SVU, we deep dive into the true crimes, and we interview the actors. Love.
I loved SVU. Yeah, every Tuesday.
So yeah, that's what I have. I'm on season two of Survival of the Thickest as well.
Ooh. Out and about.
And I'm glitter cheese on the internet, if I've ever fought with you in the comments. Thank you for trolling in ours.
We appreciate it. Stay there.
I will, I will. Thank you so much.
Thank you so much, Lisa. Am I saying it right, Lisa? You are.
You are. You are.
Thank God. Nailed it.
Lisa, it's been so much fun. Please come back anytime you're in LA.
We love your takes, love your special, and always great to have a Bravo super fan join us anytime. Yay.
Wow. Thank you.
I'm like blushing. That was nice.
Not that we're're shocked but lisa with ton of fun uh love her uh we need to we need to get her back on uh more and more especially as uh bravo continues yeah she was so much fun i was like dying of laughter did you guys experience an earthquake when we were there yeah yeah that was um justin got an alert on his phone and then my phone is always very delayed and I got it late after the earthquake had already happened. And not to brag, but my phone always gets it the earliest.
No matter who I'm with, I always get it. Is that because like other areas are having earthquakes and they send out an alert or something? Yeah, it's not near us.
I looked it up. But we all swore we felt it.
I think it was in San Diego. Yeah.
You know what is interesting, though, yesterday, because it was really, really hot on Saturday, and then yesterday it was really overcast, and I told Danny, I was like, I think there's going to be an earthquake, and alas. Well, nice.
Wait, well, with that predictability, Leah, maybe you should buy a lottery ticket. I did, actually i won did you or i did yeah leah you need

to go on a million dollar secret there you go yeah with that with that with that intuition maybe

do you think you can compete with cara no i think her um her acting that quickly and saying that she

only had one sister i would never think that fast you should you should lie you should not tell a

single truth about your background the only thing that you have to be careful about is like getting

caught in the lie. That's the only thing that you have to...
Right, you have to keep track of your lies. You have to keep track of your lies.
Well, anyways, we do have Cara, the winner of Million Dollar Secret, out on Netflix. She is with us.
She just won a million dollars. The former In-N-Out Burger employee, now millionaire, joins us next.
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So exciting. Thank you so much.
Thank you. It's so awesome being here.
Have you gotten your money yet? I know Gabby Wendy, winner of traders, was bitching about not getting her money immediately. I hear it's on the way from the bank.
Love that. So I am waiting.
Yes. Those things usually come wire and like wires i don't know i don't know it's the first time for me so uh what what a cool show we were actually we were interviewing uh jordan davis country music star last week and he was like we're like what are you watching and he's like i'm super in to the million dollar secret we're like what is this he's like it sounds a lot like traders and we spent all weekend binging it.
We're like, we're like, what are you watching? And he's like, I'm super in to the million dollar secret. We're like, what is this? He's like, it sounds a lot like traitors.
And we spent all weekend binging it. We're like, we need to get car on the show.
She won. I'm like, what? So thanks for coming on such short notice.
We're so excited to have you. No, thank you.
I'm so happy you guys got to watch and I hope you enjoyed it. Yes, it was so good.
What was the experience like for you? Oh, it was incredible. Just the fact that I got the opportunity to be on a show.
I'm such a fan of games. And when this came literally magically into my lap, I was like, of course I'm doing it.
There's just no way I can't. And then when I figured out I was really good at playing, that was really awesome.
And then now we're here. How did you get on the show in the first place? I actually did a game show like 10 years ago and I had this contact and she just always would message me, I think the last time was like four years ago, asking if I was interested in a dating show.
I was like, oh no, sorry, I'm married. And then that was the last I heard from her until she just randomly texted me the info about this show.
She's like, hey, I have an opportunity. Would you be willing to do it? And it was something I had been praying for a week before.
I had just sent an audition tape for Big Brother. So I was like finally putting myself out there and then all of a sudden I get this text and I just couldn't believe it.
I'm like, yeah, of course I wouldn't do it. Like, let's go.
That. And did you have any idea, I mean, I know you mentioned, because it sounds like you got asked to maybe do some relationship or dating type shows.
And like you said, you were married, but how much about the show did you know before you said yes? Nothing really. It was a game about lies being deceptive and a million dollars.
I was like, okay, well, I can't lie. And I feel like I'd be a really good person and I can't be deceitful.
But the million dollars signed me up. I'm not going to lie.
While I was watching, I was like, oh, maybe this is a show I could do because it's not like super physical. And then when it was the running with the dogs as I kept them out, that's where I get injured.
And that's me, too. I am so clumsy and I fall all the time.
And what you didn't see is I cut open both my legs on that first episode. Yes.
And I'm like, no, this is so something I would do. And now I can't look weak.
Otherwise, they're going to vote me out. And I joked with the medics and I was like, well, this could be a million dollar scar.
Yeah, now it is. And if you continue to get hurt, it's going to be like, so it's a secret agenda.
Exactly. Exactly.
It seemed like a lot of your peers underestimated you early. Maybe that was the edit.
I don't know, but you were pretty quiet the first couple episodes watching it back. Did you feel like that was more like an edit and just like them kind of telling a story or was that going on in reality where it seemed like your peers were just kind of like not noticing you and you were kind of flying under the radar? It was a little of both because watching these games growing up, you can come out and you can say exactly what's on your mind and that doesn't always work out.
So when I first realized it was Phil, I could go and tell everybody. But if nobody else is thinking him, it just puts a target on my back.
So I just really went into there knowing that I need to play this game carefully. And I did call shots.
I also was building a whole alliance with people. I had an alliance with almost every single person on that show.
And that was me behind the scenes doing that work and figuring out how they lie as a person and who can I really trust to get to the end with. So I was still working behind the scenes.
It just wasn't vocally announced. Yeah, but you were so on your game too.
Like when Sam asked you about the siblings and you like knew to say one, like how did you know to say one? Yes. I actually really terrified the producers with that one.
It was a whole thing. So when I had opened my box that morning, I put on my cross and I knew I was getting the money.
I just, when I tell you guys, my intuition is wild. It is.
And now people understand, but I just knew I was getting the money. And when I had opened the box, I said, I knew it.
And then now I took a second to myself. I said, okay, someone's getting a clue about me.
What is it going to be? And the first two things that popped in my head was my middle name is Lydia and there's Lydia on the show. So someone could be asking me about that or my sisters.
And I have brothers too, but that didn't come to my mind. It was about my sisters.
And I was like, it's going to be about my sisters. And Sam was the first person I actually spoke to when I got out of the room.
I know how editing works, but she was the first one I talked to. And when she asked me that, I know it shows a pause, but if you watch it at the end of the episode eight, it shows no pause.
And I had no pause when I had answered her. I said one.
And I'm looking behind her at the producers and they're looking at each other. And it's confusing me.
I'm like, oh, shoot, did I mess up? I don't know what happened. and we cut and sam goes and talks to the rest of the contestants and i go to do interviews and the producer almost fell to the floor she's like i thought you said you had two sisters when you entered this i was like i do i was like this is a game i'm supposed to be lying right she was like on her mic like i'm not getting fired we did the right research she does have two sisters it's a whole thing well then that tells me that they were almost like trying to set you up in a way to almost kind of get you kicked off did it feel like that because no no the thing is with these games is that they had to pick these agendas these clues months before we got there and they actually picked out of a hat who was getting the money all randomly.
They have lawyers there. It's all on camera.
Nothing is set up for certain people. Or, yeah, I didn't get an easy clue.
I didn't get any of those things. And it is supposed to set up because she was the millionaire.
So the clue is supposed to relate to you. But you were so clever.
And then your intuition kicking off with the trading of the boxes, like chills. Yes.
Full body chills. Thank you.
Did you, like at the end, what was your confidence level that the million dollars was in your box? Deep down, I felt like it was, but then you always have those what ifs that creep in. And I knew if I was, this entire show, if I had the what ifs creeps in, then I'm going to go home.
That's just how it works. You have to be confident.
You have to know that that money's in that box. You're going home with it.
So as much as I thought a little bit it could happen, I was like, no, it's mine. I'm taking this home.
What was harder, the secret agendas or the challenges? Oh, that's a great question. For me, the challenges, like if I wanted to win, I could try, but I didn't want to be like the quiet one that also wins and draw a target on my back.
But also the agendas could get you in trouble. If you go in to the trophy room and you get a clue or you get anything like that, I realized from the start, because I was in there on the first challenge and it wasn't all butterflies and rainbows.
Like people were mad that people were saying different people's names in the trophy room. So I realized I don't really want to be in there.
It's not other people really want to be in there. I didn't.
Did you clock anybody's secret agenda before you knew that it was like a secret? Did you, you know, like Lauren being like, oh, cry me a river. Were you like, that's definitely something, but didn't say anything? Sydney's 100% the falling.
What was her again? As soon as that girl walked, yes, for her immunity, as soon as she walked out of that room and she did this fall down the stairs, I was like, girl, what was that? Come on. Like, we got to sign you up for some acting lessons or something because that was really really bad and then it got me thinking i was like oh she got immunity right in my head yeah definitely wasn't good acting like the way that she was falling it's hard to fake fall like you know like how much because you don't really want to hurt yourself but yeah the way that she I mean, I think Sam called it, but her being like, she cleared both of those steps and then fell.
Who do you think made like, in your mind, and maybe you didn't even notice, but was there a point where someone like really made a mistake and you thought, wow, what a, like I wouldn't have done that. I think it was Phil with his scream.
Oh, the scream. I always say Phil for a different reason, but yeah.
Tell me more. I think he waited a little bit too long to complete it because we're only given a specific amount of time and then it's done.
Like you ran out of time. And I think maybe he could have taken the direction of they won the challenge.
So he could have like been screaming with his partners that he won, or he could have scared the girls and said that there was a bug in their hair. I think he could have done a different route.
Instead, he had the whole house hear him screaming. Yeah, because everyone's involved at that point.
But it's funny. It's interesting that you say that, but I honestly thought his bigger mistake was when he made the mistake before by not changing his vote during like the elimination, you know, when they had to revote between, I think it was.
Lauren and Sid. Yes.
Yes. That's another big one.
Yeah. Because like at that point, and they said like the millionaire will have the deciding vote.
And one, one thing you learn pretty quickly watching the show is that like, if you're the millionaire, you know, just information about you can obviously be used against you, especially if you're the millionaire. And so here they are saying that the millionaire will be the deciding vote.
It was already a tie. The last thing you want is to be the deciding vote so they can do the very thing they did to Phil, which is be like, all right, well, who was the person who voted? So he should have immediately changed his vote.
So eliminating any chance that it'll be a tie. And then I don't even think that other thing happens.
Maybe, because the first time he spent, prior to that, he didn't do the challenge. And going into that one, he completely fell out of the radar.
I mean, that was the vote where everyone was like, hey, we're not going to get the millionaire.

So let's just kick out someone that we think is a threat.

And he went from opting out of the secret challenge to kind of being forced to almost do it, it seemed like.

But yeah, I was curious what you thought.

No, yeah, that's a good one too.

What did you think of Sayang's emotional response to the where were you sitting at breakfast question? I felt so bad for her because what you didn't see on camera was she actually came in that morning for breakfast and she was telling us that she was really upset last night. She almost went home because of how much she misses her kid and her partner.
And it just getting a lot for her and so she was already in an emotional state and coming to the dinner or the breakfast and being asked those questions where her mind just wasn't even focused on gameplay and then she got hit of not being prepared with gameplay I was just I felt really bad for her because I could understand where she was coming from and that makes a lot more sense like the random tears because i i was like when you have a kid i don't i don't know do you have any kids i don't you know yeah but like i couldn't imagine what it'd be like to i don't know how long are y'all filming for really quick three weeks and you have no phones, no communication, nothing. But yeah, it would be very difficult for anyone to leave their child for that period of time.
So I empathize with any child, especially any mom that had to leave their kid. And not knowing that context makes a ton of sense why she was hyper emotional.
Yes, she didn't just come out with tears. You are, I think famously now, work at In-N-Out.

Is that accurate?

You still work there?

You did work there?

I do work at In-N-Out.

I'm not a lying burger flipper.

I definitely work at In-N-Out.

Is that your job now?

I just quit.

Congrats.

Yay!

Yes, I came back from the show still flipping burgers.

No one knew.

What did your coworkers, did they know that you were on the show when you came back,

that you'd won a million dollars?

No, no one knew I left.

It was really funny. I was there the day the trailer came out.
And so everybody was watching it and then walking in like, um, car, uh, what are you going to tell us or what? Yeah. So it was really awesome.
Almost eight years. Wow.
I'm a certified burger flipper. So you're a fan of an ounce French fries or? They are the cleanest on the market.
I don't love. Yes, they are very, everything there is very clean and high quality for sure.
Well, now that you don't work there anymore, are you going to spend time cooking other foods? Oh, goodness. I'm getting in trouble for that one.
I know. I genuinely do want to cook anything but burgers and fries.
I don't know why that was so suspicious, but yes. I know that I feel like In-N-Out's trends on TikTok go very viral, you know, whatever Kylie Jenner is eating.
How frustrating or was it frustrating at all for people to come in and order these crazy off-menu, secret menu things? Yes. We're actually not supposed to say no to the customer.
But that was the thing with my burger is it's not something you can order. And so when people want me to tell them what it is, I'm like, no, because like if I took your order, I'd be really frustrated and we can't say no to you.
So yes, it's definitely, it's like, oh my goodness. What's your order? I'll tell you off camera.
What's one thing you'll never miss about working there? Oh my gosh, my hands hurting because I cook for hours on end and it's like such a repetitive motion. So I'm excited to.
And how'd you get into working there in the first place? My husband works there as well, but that's not how we met or anything. But yeah, we had family friends and we just love just love it.
It's a fun, fun job. And is he still working there? He does.
He is still a manager there. Yes.
Amazing. I know that you're planning on helping your family, and you have a lot of plans for this money, but what's the extraneous thing that you want to do with this million dollars? Really? Honestly, I haven't even thought that far.
I just want to make sure. Like.
Like a bag? No, I'm not. Everything's from Shein that I buy.
So all the clothes on the show are from Shein. I just, I think just wanting to make sure my family's okay.
And then my husband and I want to start a family, hopefully in the future soon. Yeah.
So just moving closer to my parents. And yeah, that's it.
Aw, that's wh it. I'm like buying an island now.
Have you been able to keep in touch with any of your friends from the show and specifically the finalists? Obviously you guys were close. Have there been any, you know, reaching out being like, hey, I'll take like half of that or anyone trying to like guilt you into splitting the money or or anything like that we had there is a ton of legal stuff before we even got on the show that we could not do that okay we had to sign things yeah so that is not in it but uh we all still keep in contact we have a group message that we also talk in and then of course, Corey and Sam are the ones I talk to the most.

Do they ever ask you a question and be like,

is that the truth?

Yeah, they're definitely

still salty sometimes.

They're like, well,

Cara can pay.

Or yeah,

they joke around.

Can you explain to me,

because especially early on,

like Lauren, right?

Lauren was the first millionaire

from the Midwest,

very sweet.

She struggled with the lying. I definitely think it was a huge mistake by admitting that she was a millionaire that being said why was everyone so angry at her for admitting to it and then like you know but you lied to us i'm like she was the millionaire it's just like were people like leaning into that like why were people getting so upset with people lying because like we we know why you're lying like this isn't a show about character this is a show about like if you're given a free pass if you're told that like lying and manipulation is okay in the in this world like you're gonna do it and then like it seemed to get used against people when everyone was playing the same game.
What was your read on that? Yes. I thought that was really funny.
Honestly, I would go back into my confessionals. I'm like, is that not the same game that I'm playing here? Because you're lying, but that's the game.
So how are you getting mad at her? And then another thing too, is when they said they wanted to vote the millionaire off but then they want to vote Lauren off

I'm like you can't which one is it

you gotta pick you know you can't go back and forth

so yes it was actually really funny

I was confused

is there anyone there in your mind that felt like

kind of got screwed over

with their exit

what do you mean like

I don't know I just think like you know some

some exits that maybe were just more like

like maybe their clue was

you know it just don't know. I just think like, you know, some exits that maybe were just more like, like maybe their clue was, you know, it just felt like they just had some bad luck.
Like it was more bad luck rather than a bad decision. Like I felt like Phil made a, Phil got himself kicked out because I think he had some poor game playing where I felt like other people, it was just more bad luck.
What about poor Harry in the beginning? Oh, yes.

He just wanted to pray over lunch and they were like, secret agenda.

I know.

He was like the sacrificial lamb.

Literally.

Rest in peace, Harry.

I felt like he deserved to go.

I'm sorry.

A group prayer, like in a room where you're supposed to not stand out or do anything odd

when everyone knows that people have these secret missions and the first thing he does is like, let's all hold and pray it's like huh what were you doing so sad what a gift that's just harry though harry sent us all pineapples just a couple days ago from hawaii it's it's just harry so sweet but i don't think he got punished for being a sweet guy yeah what game he was coming to play. Do you know if Sydney and Chris are like

hanging out?

They're

they're

they're

they're

they're just friends. So no showmances? No showmances at all.
Does Chris know that? Well, I'm just kidding. No, he admires Sid.
I'm sure you've been asked, what's the thing that, I mean, you're not going to buy any purses or anything like that, but is there something that like, I don't know, I guess, what did this winning this money mean to you? Oh, it just meant so much because it wasn't just for me, it was for my whole family. And it's just to make sure that everybody's okay.
You know, that's, I think what we all want in life is that our family is going to be okay. And we just have always been hit left and right growing up one thing after another.
So now finally like, oh we can see the bright side is it's awesome how is your dad doing today oh he's doing really well he's in remission and yeah he balled his eyes out and he's just he's like i knew you could do it i had no doubt and it was really really sweet who did you want did you like how fast did you binge it or did you try to like um out and who did you watch it with? Yeah, we watched at the same time the world did. And luckily I had my family.
My husband and I watched it at midnight and then the day of my sister and her family threw a party for me, which is really sweet. That's so fun.
You seem like you've such a good group of people around you, really supportive, very much there for you, a good family, good friends. And that's really beautiful to see.
Thank you. I know I count my blessings every day.
You honestly felt like the perfect person to win this prize with your background. And it was kind of fascinating too, because early on, Sam, she's's the cop and then you had um her name escapes me the poker player lydia lydia yeah and there seemed to be a lot of people they casted based off of their professions giving them some kind of like angle into like reading people manipulating people yada yada and then you know you're like-N-Out and, you know, it's like, there's nothing specific about your background that would give you like, a watch out for her.
And yet you were like the deadliest in the best possible way, like player there. Like what did that, did that give it an extra kind of excitement? Like, and did you even realize that going in? Because like, as when they're, when they're airing it, they're make it seem like everyone was casted based off of the sophisticated background and here you are just like this very innocent very sweet person who's like what is cara doing here you know and then you ended up winning the whole thing i think they were shocked too because they didn't realize that i was such a big fan of games and when i got in there i surprised myself i was wow, I could really do this.
Like, this is something I've studied. And I am just this quiet person naturally, but I can make other game moves to get me to the end.
And yeah, it was. I'm just a burger flipper and, you know, I'm talking lying against a cop here.
Who would have thought? Who's in your Mount Rushmore of game players?

Oh, goodness.

So many people.

There's just like, oh, there's so many good game players.

But Sari, Parvati, Boston Rob, those are some good ones.

But I definitely have a list.

Tyson.

Those are good.

Maybe now that you're the winner of this show,

maybe we can get you on Traders

next. I would love that.

That would be so much fun. I definitely

have a different gameplay going into it.

But I would always trust

my intuition. I know.

But it's okay. We can

weasel our way out somehow.

What was something during this experience

outside of winning that you were shocked that you were able to accomplish? Looking back and you're like, wow, I did that. Oh my gosh, just being on the show.
Yeah. Yes.
Because I just never really put myself out there. And I'm the type of person that just does things for everybody else but myself.
And so finally making that decision, my husband gave me the big push. He's like, listen, you're always going to do things for everybody else.
And I need you to take this moment before we have kids and you need to do the dang thing and just put yourself out there. You never know.
And that's, I put myself out there with the big brother video. And then a week later I got a text from, for this show.
And now you're a millionaire. It did work out.
And it was just, it's still so crazy. I feel like I'm dreaming.
That's incredible. Congratulations.
Thank you so much. I appreciate it.
It's such a heartwarming story. It was such a fun show.
I'm excited. Thanks to Jordan Davis for giving us the scoop on this show.
It was really fun watching you, Kara. Congratulations.
We love an underdog story. You definitely were like a silent assassin.
You played a flawless flawless game it was so exciting and and and so you know just cool to see you win thank you i really appreciate i am curious real fast before we let you go because you watch big brother are you like are you following the whole mickey rourke and jojo at all a little bit i saw a couple of things online that i didn't know she was going on the uk celebrity big brother Brother. That was news to me.
I did. She texted me and told me when she was going.
But then she's really made a splash. Well, some would say Mickey Rourke also made a splash and now he's gone.
So, yeah. Are we shocked? Like a man, a British white man.
He's not even British. He's like 70.
Oh, well, are we shocked? This is like the way he's behaving. He's just old and problematic.
I mean, he doesn't excuse it, but it definitely is like not shocking to me. I do have one question for you.
In the show, you mentioned he asked you to lie to him and you said, I was never arrested. Thanks for asking this question.
I've never been arrested. Oh, my goodness.
Thank goodness he gave me a practice one because there you go. I'm not a liar in real life.
I actually really struggle with that. And so when he had asked me that and that came out of my mouth, instead of saying I've been arrested, I said I've never been arrested.
And as soon as it left my mouth and he left the room, I was like, wait, did I just tell him I've been arrested?

And I was like, no, they won't show it because I haven't been arrested.

And then they show it.

I'm like, I've never been arrested.

I swear.

Your family's like, wait a second.

What's going on here?

Everybody looked at me like, you got something to tell me?

No, I didn't.

But that was my first like lie and I completely messed it up. So at least I got practice before heading out.
Was it actually a lie? Because you told the truth. I wait.
No, I've never been arrested. That is the truth.
Yeah. Yeah.
So he was asking me to lie. And I don't know why in my head I forgot the never.
It's okay. Lying just doesn't come naturally to you.
Exactly. Exactly.
I really struggle with it. But if you put a million dollars in front of you- It makes sense why you screwed up, though.
I get it. They should have put a little spoiler at the bottom, like, Cara has never been arrested.
Yeah, asterisk. Yes.
Well, thank you for clearing that up, Leah. Great follow-up question so we don't think our girl is a convicted criminal or felon.
Cara, thanks again for coming on, and congratulations. It's such an amazing win.
Thank you so much. I really, really appreciate you guys for having me.
Well, we appreciate you coming on and thank you guys for listening. Thank you to our guests, Cara and Lisa Trager.
Check out her new special Night Owl out on Netflix. Also, stay on Netflix and if you haven't watched Million Dollar Secret, spoiler alert,

Carl wins,

but it's a fun show and be sure to check it out.

We will be back on Thursday.

See you then.

Bye.