E918 - Coachella, Liza Treyger, Million Dollar Secret w/ Cara, Kenya v Brit, Summer House & SNL v Aimee Lou

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Speaker 4 What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to another exciting episode of the Vile Files Reality Recap Edition. I'm your host, Nick, and we didn't go to Coachella this weekend.

Speaker 1 We did not.

Speaker 1 I didn't have any ounce of FOMO, I'll be honest. Me Me neither.

Speaker 3 Nope.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't think. Yeah,

Speaker 4 I really didn't.

Speaker 4 It was interesting because we were there last year.

Speaker 1 We were there. We brought the whole team, right?

Speaker 4 We took a little team field trip.

Speaker 4 We got to meet Swartz's new girlfriend.

Speaker 1 Are they still hanging out?

Speaker 1 Are they together?

Speaker 5 As of a couple months ago, they were still together.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 4 All right. Yeah.
We interviewed Swartzy and his new girlfriend. Yeah,

Speaker 4 it was a fun weekend. But yeah, it was like, it's really crazy to think

Speaker 4 how much changes in a year. Truly.
How much like just thinking about this time last year.

Speaker 4 And we even had like we had River. So it wasn't like, oh my God, like now we have a child.

Speaker 4 But like River, that's when she learned, I made me think about that's when she we discovered the pack and play.

Speaker 1 Remember? Not the pack and play. It was the kick and play.
What's the difference? Fisher Price, where she laid on her back and she could kick the piano. Yeah, that was game changing.

Speaker 4 That was game-changing.

Speaker 1 She loved it.

Speaker 1 I do have a gripe with everyone at Coachella this year, though, I will say. Everyone.
Well, everyone that I follow. Because, you know, they don't stop with the Instagram story posts.

Speaker 1 They don't stop, which is fine. Post your content.
I get it. I want to see it.
I'm sitting in bed. I'm scrolling.
But you're going to record Lady Gaga's hit song, Alejandro, and only post the intro.

Speaker 1 Like these people are only posting like the most random clips of these songs. And it's like, if you're going to post someone's set on Instagram, you better put the chorus.

Speaker 1 You better put the most banging part of the song. Yeah.
Because if I'm trying to sing sing it, I'm in bed, I'm trying to sing along, and it cuts off right before like the beat drops, I'm pissed.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I'm gonna be honest, I'm thinking now, I'm pretty sure I've I've I've definitely never given that any thought.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 4 I'm definitely up there just recording, not really thinking about the type of song.

Speaker 6 If I'm posting from a concert, I'm so specific about exactly which clip I'm going to post from the concert.

Speaker 6 Yeah, in reality, nobody really wants to see your shaky concert video. So it's like, you're just saying you're there.

Speaker 6 So you really want it to be a good part of the song and try to get good quality if you're trying to.

Speaker 5 The live streams do exist for a reason. Exactly.

Speaker 1 I will say.

Speaker 4 What if it's just like

Speaker 4 the entrance? Like, you know, when the artist comes out for the first time, that's fine, but you have to then post again.

Speaker 1 I'm singing like an iconic song.

Speaker 6 You know, if you're going to post, I want to see Gaga with the skeleton singing Zombie Boy.

Speaker 1 Yes, of course. This started when I saw friend of show Kelsey Anderson post Lady Gaga intro to Alejandro.

Speaker 4 And it's like, you coming for Kelsey?

Speaker 1 Oh, well, that's what made me think of it. And then the more I kept scrolling, she was my first, she was my first person on my Instagram stories.
The more I kept going, everyone was doing it.

Speaker 1 And I was like, no, what is happening? All Kelsey posted was the, I never want to be like this anymore, Alejandro. And then that was it.
And her story was over.

Speaker 1 And it went to like a picture of the clouds. And I was like, no, Kelsey, keep going.

Speaker 4 She wanted you to increase that FOMO, you know? I guess.

Speaker 1 It didn't give me FOMO. That's the thing.
I had 0% FOMO. I just wanted to like be in bed, be cozy, have my skincare done, be breathing like fresh air, right?

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 be able to just like sing along and like do a little shoulder shrug in bed. And I couldn't do that.
Kelsey. What?

Speaker 7 You're against me? Because here's the thing.

Speaker 5 If you want, no, not against you, against the concept. Because if you want the performance, that's what the live stream is about.

Speaker 1 Absolutely not.

Speaker 5 These people are, these people want to experience the actual climax of the song themselves.

Speaker 1 So they're just

Speaker 1 edging. They are content creators.

Speaker 1 But have you seen the clips even from the audience? Like when I was going to Coachella, everyone was dancing, having fun, laying in the grass.

Speaker 1 Like everybody's just standing there with their phones up. So it's like, what are you recording? Like I said, watch the live stream.
Let them live in the moment. An incredible

Speaker 1 live stream.

Speaker 4 I wouldn't even know where to access it. I watch the live stream.

Speaker 1 YouTube. YouTube.
YouTube.

Speaker 5 You can see all the performances.

Speaker 1 That's cool. Who records the live stream? Is it just someone in the audience or is it a professional HD?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
They're like up on a scaffolding.

Speaker 5 All angles, better angles than being in the audience. Yeah.

Speaker 8 But even then, remember they didn't do one for Frank Ocean that one year?

Speaker 5 Well, he came out like 40 minutes later.

Speaker 4 Didn't he mail it in?

Speaker 1 Then he quit or something. That's so funny.
He was like supposed to have like an ice skating rink and whatnot on his performance. And then like it didn't work out.
At

Speaker 1 Macy and Madeline's event in new york the sync show we met someone who works for frank ocean and i was like oh that's so cool and he was like yeah he hasn't done anything in a while i'm like he really hasn't like what actually what can you forget if you work for him what are you doing because he's not doing much he's still on the payroll i guess i don't know

Speaker 5 okay but when frank ocean does do something boy does he do it boy does he do it that is very true but i guess also natalie what you wouldn't have fomo if you saw people waiting three hours for a shower 12 hours to get into their campsite like it fireworks blowing up in the artist area.

Speaker 5 Like this is too much.

Speaker 1 Like I don't care how aesthetic you make your tent. There's no world in which I can sit for 10 hours to get into a camping spot to go to a festival all day.
And it was 113 degrees the first day.

Speaker 5 Power doesn't work either.

Speaker 1 So first of all, I forget that people camp at Coachella because it is like the most thing I would never want to do. I mean, camping in general.

Speaker 1 I would never want to do it ever in my life, but to do it at Coachella with all that dust in that heat with all those people. But You're bringing your stuff there.
Like, how do you lock up your tent?

Speaker 1 Like, how are you not concerned about people stealing things? Like, well,

Speaker 4 I read somewhere that they're just concerned to try to just afford the tickets in the first place.

Speaker 4 Like, some crazy number, I don't know maybe, Leia, you can look this up, but like 60 or 70 or a large percentage of people who bought their Coachella tickets like bought them like on layaway, like on credit.

Speaker 4 65 to 60. 65%.
Like, they didn't like just like, here's.

Speaker 1 How much is your standard GA Coachella ticket?

Speaker 5 It's around like $400.

Speaker 7 It used to be $375 back when I was going.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 General admission.

Speaker 6 General admission starts around $600.

Speaker 1 General admission.

Speaker 1 Yeah, general admission, $600 VIP.

Speaker 4 55% of people going

Speaker 4 can't afford it and

Speaker 1 they're paying

Speaker 1 that they're gonna get to just 700.

Speaker 1 I'm sure that like the, as people do for this stuff, they'll like resell, you know, the ticket masters of it all, buy them all out from coachella.com and then resell them for so much more.

Speaker 4 Made me think, when was the last, when was the last time you bought something where you like truly couldn't afford it? Like you were just like, I want this so fucking bad.

Speaker 1 Oh my God, it's so embarrassing.

Speaker 4 And I'm just going to buy it. And I have no business buying this right now.
Do you remember?

Speaker 4 What did you say, Leia?

Speaker 1 Yesterday.

Speaker 4 Yesterday.

Speaker 8 I bought a Dyson Air wrap yesterday.

Speaker 1 No, but is that why your hair looks so flippy? It was on sale.

Speaker 4 Leia, I bought, I bought Natalie the Dyson Air Wrap

Speaker 4 like three or four years ago. She hasn't used it once.
Well, maybe that's not true.

Speaker 4 She used it once after I bought it for her, after I just scoured the heavens and the earth because this was at a time where like everyone was buying it and like you couldn't find it.

Speaker 1 Listen, there's like an art to it. They're hard to figure out how to work.
And my hair does not look good with a lot of volume. I know someone, a troll, once told me my hair was super flat.

Speaker 1 Well, guess what? I like it that way.

Speaker 1 And it looks good.

Speaker 8 No, I mean, I spent 700 bucks on it and then went home i was all excited to use it and i was like wait my hair looks horrible i couldn't figure it out i'm like i'm gonna have to go watch a bunch of youtube you look like a woman from the 19 like 50s i don't know if that's my right hair i'll teach you how to use it

Speaker 8 please teach me well i'm gonna keep it i monogrammed it they monogrammed it

Speaker 1 you monogrammed your air wrap what did you put on there you know just my name was this like to make sure you couldn't because it was on sale

Speaker 4 how much of that Leia.

Speaker 1 You know what? Like to make sure no one

Speaker 1 was like, this is my air wrap. No one's going to, no one's going to get confused.

Speaker 4 Well, your hair looks great, Leia.

Speaker 8 It was great. Thank you.

Speaker 1 Did you do it this way?

Speaker 8 Yesterday. Okay, sure.

Speaker 1 It is extra flippy.

Speaker 4 I carried.

Speaker 1 It's like Day Elder. You also got a haircut.
I did. That's crazy that you went from like, yeah, let me chop my hair off and like, oh, I also need a Dyson air wrap to curl this short hair.

Speaker 8 Yeah, that's what I told Sierra. Yeah, I'll be honest.

Speaker 1 I don't know how many people look good with a Dyson Air wrap short bob. I don't know.
And maybe it's just because I don't know how to do it.

Speaker 8 No, no, that's exactly where I went wrong.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was a crazy decision.

Speaker 4 If it makes you feel any better,

Speaker 4 I didn't notice anything.

Speaker 8 I don't know if that makes me feel better. Danny didn't either.

Speaker 1 Do we think that's good? Wait, Natalie, what's something that you

Speaker 1 the first time I ever went to LA? I went with my sister and my niece and like a family friend.

Speaker 1 Our family friend works with like animals on sets, like movie sets, like make sure the animals are being properly cared for and whatever. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 So she was working in LA on some set of something, and me, my sister, and my niece all came to visit her. I was fresh out of a relationship of two years and was broke, had zero money to my name.

Speaker 1 And we went to LA. And my sister usually would take care of me, pay for everything, whatever.
But we go to Rodeo Drive, and I was like, well, I have to buy something. Like, I want Rodeo Drive.

Speaker 1 So I buy a Gucci purse. Well, I try to buy a Gucci purse.
I still have it. I don't think I'll ever get rid of it just because it's like, this is my first.

Speaker 1 And I went to fight my card and she was like, oh, it's declining. And so I like looked at my bank account and I was $200 short.
So I like text my ex-boyfriend at the time and I'm like, hey.

Speaker 1 I need $200 trying to buy this purse. And he's like at work.
I'm like calling him like, you have to take a break because I'm at the checkout. Like, they're waiting on me.
I have a line behind me.

Speaker 1 I need $200. I have to get this purse.
He's like, Natalie, we broke up. I'm like, I don't care.
I need it. And he sends me $200.

Speaker 1 And I like had four different forms of payment and bought this Gucci purse. And the rest of the time, my sister was like, She got a purse with no money in it.
And I was like, you're right.

Speaker 1 Do you still have that purse? Yeah, I do. I'll never get rid of it.

Speaker 4 Mine was when I was in college. I was my

Speaker 4 last year of college, my fifth year. Yeah, I was one of those guys.
My fifth year of college, I, this is going to date me, but

Speaker 4 I bought a high-definition television, a 50-inch high-definition television, but this is a flip phone era. Like, keep in mind, flip phones exist at this point, not Apple phones.

Speaker 4 But, like, and I spent my entire world.

Speaker 1 I live in a live world. What? I don't want to live in that world.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and I spent my entire semester of student aid on this TV.

Speaker 4 I decided to just get a high-definition TV, which was when those TVs were like, like, big houses, you know, that it was like a whole, like, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 It was like, it wasn't like a lightweight, thin TV. It was basically a whole box.
And we drove down to Chicago to pay for it.

Speaker 4 And I was so obsessed with this TV that like, again, because I didn't have an iPhone, I remember being in class in college with printouts.

Speaker 4 of my TV that I was going to buy, just like looking at the printout of my TV in like some English class.

Speaker 1 So embarrassing. What?

Speaker 4 And this is before like, and then I bought the TV only to then realize that like, even though I bought a high definition TV,

Speaker 4 like most things back then weren't broadcasted in high definition. So like I spent my entire

Speaker 1 to still watch some grainy ass TV.

Speaker 4 So like it wasn't even broadcasted in high definition. Did not know this at the time,

Speaker 4 but I was very excited. But I think this reminds me, you know, I think it's because of the trauma I had around TVs.

Speaker 4 Because my freshman year of of college, mine and my roommate's TV was so, like, I don't even know where we got this TV. We like found it.

Speaker 4 Someone would like got rid of it and neither of us had a TV because usually back then it was like, well, do you have a TV? I have a toaster. And it's like, yeah, sure.

Speaker 4 I'll bring my toaster. We'll use your TV.
Well, neither of us had TVs. And we got this shitty tube TV, like, you know, this big walky, like, it was from like the 70s or whatever.
And it was so shitty.

Speaker 4 that we couldn't turn it off. So we left it on in our dorm room all semester long long and put like a blanket over it.

Speaker 4 To go to bed? Just so we could go to bed.

Speaker 4 And at the end of the semester, we threw it out the window and broke it.

Speaker 1 We did also have, we forgot to mention this, my brother

Speaker 1 and sister-in-law with their two dogs came to visit us to, my brother

Speaker 1 is like a woodworker and does like construction type stuff. So he helped with some house projects.
And they brought their two dogs, one of which was

Speaker 1 the dog that I got with an ex-boyfriend.

Speaker 4 Same ex-boyfriend.

Speaker 1 The same ex-boyfriend who came with the $200. Yes, yes, yes, yes.
We also got a dog together. We got a mini Australian Shepherd.
His name is Leo.

Speaker 1 And beautiful, beautiful, right? And I,

Speaker 1 he like held him hostage when we broke up. It was this whole thing.
You know, we all had a nasty relationship. You know, I've talked about it before.

Speaker 1 Anyways, well, when I finally got out of the relationship, I lived in my car for a while. So I didn't take Leo because I was like, I'm living in my car.
Like, I can't take this dog.

Speaker 1 He also wouldn't allow me to take the dog. So then I was so sick, I went to go see my brother-in-law, who's a doctor.
And he was like, whoa, you're like, you're skinny as hell, baby.

Speaker 3 Why do you look like this?

Speaker 1 That's how he talks. And I was like, um, that's true.
I was like, I'm going through a breakup. And he was like, you're coming to live with us.
So I moved in with my sister, Amanda, on her farm.

Speaker 1 And she was like, bring, bring Leo here. Like, he'll be fine.
So I bring him here. Long, long, longest story ever.

Speaker 1 He ends up in the care of my brother and my sister-in-law longest story ever we don't need to shade anybody but that is where he is now currently in the hands of my brother and sister-in-law well river is now she met him at thanksgiving but now she's like loves dogs she knows how to like pet dogs the right way she knows how to play with dogs and to see the two of them together was so sweet it was like my first baby and my first baby you know

Speaker 1 like it was really sweet like i have a video of them where he's just sitting and he's like looking at me and she just is going up to him and like hugging him and like leaning in and giving him kisses it was so sweet and she actually can say we call him lely and she was saying lely it was really cool it's really sweet they're really in our nesting era right now we're just we're just we're nesting all over but we are nesting for sure why are we nesting what do you mean you nest when you're like pregnant and you're like about to have a baby oops I just feel like we're staying at home a lot.

Speaker 6 You're chilling.

Speaker 4 Chilling.

Speaker 1 I feel that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's how I felt when I found out that coachella was this weekend i genuinely had no idea and i was sitting there on the couch on friday being like what it this weekend traffic so chill missed nothing yes missed beautiful nothing happy to sit at home on my couch and be like no i don't really need to watch any of your coachella content did it feel i watched old beverly hills

Speaker 4 did river not feel like your first born in that moment i mean did you feel like you birthed leo I do feel like I birthed Leo.

Speaker 1 I feel like he's like my child who I like had to, you know, I was too young. I had to put him up for adoption, you know, and like, I finally find him again and like we reunite.

Speaker 1 And it, like, he doesn't forget me, which is so sweet. Anyone who thinks like dogs forget them, they don't.
He like gets so excited when we see each other.

Speaker 4 And he could definitely confirm that. He definitely remembers Natalie for sure.

Speaker 1 It's so sweet. So a sweet reunion.
It was a sweet reunion.

Speaker 5 Did y'all see Katy Perry finally went to space?

Speaker 4 Dag this morning.

Speaker 1 I heard like a woohoo. Is she back? It lasted 11 minutes.
She's back. And Gail King.
Okay, Gail.

Speaker 1 I just feel like people are forgetting Gail.

Speaker 5 the photo shoots they had going into space i was like oh my god crazy like gail

Speaker 1 face tuned but like in a good way like gail looked like she did not like gail looked like she was regretting her decision to go on that flight yeah yeah i feel like i would be super excited up until they're like all right get on the rocket and i'm like i think i'm good

Speaker 1 hold on hold on hold on hold on it's just crazy to me the idea

Speaker 1 let me think about it it's like you're about to like skydive

Speaker 1 i need a countdown i can't do it yeah start over start over It's crazy that they literally go to Coachella. Do you think Haiti pays for the game?

Speaker 1 Do you think she knew that the flight takeoff was the same weekend as Coachella one?

Speaker 1 And do you think she was like, that's why she didn't show up? Oh, yeah. She had a problem.

Speaker 4 There's a lot of. Were there any fun celebrity sightings?

Speaker 4 I know. Justin Bieber went.

Speaker 1 I did see all right. I did see Stormy Webster was there watching her dad, Travis Scott, set, which was really cool.

Speaker 1 She was like on the shoulders of someone, like watching her dad, which I think is so cool.

Speaker 4 Patrick Swarzeneger was there supporting his co-star, Lisa.

Speaker 1 Lisa.

Speaker 4 Is she a DJ?

Speaker 5 No, she's part of Black Pink, but she was doing her solo.

Speaker 5 She's doing her solo.

Speaker 6 Trixie Mattel DJ.

Speaker 1 We saw Kylie Jenner and Timothy Chalamay.

Speaker 5 People were criticizing Haley Baldwin for driving Justin Bieber and his friends around. Did you see that?

Speaker 1 I did see that. What do you mean driving?

Speaker 1 She was driving a golf cart. Like,

Speaker 1 but she was in the front seat behind her. She was alone.
It's like, you know, as soon as I see a golf cart, I'm like, I'm driving.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Me too.
That's what I was going to say. Who doesn't fight with her? Yeah, first of all, they're fun.

Speaker 4 Second of all, you know, she recently had a child. Not sure what her like drinking situation is.
She definitely could just be not drinking

Speaker 4 while everyone else is having fun.

Speaker 1 Or Justin's with his friends. So she's like, you sit in the back with your friends and I'll drive.

Speaker 4 The way people just harass this woman is unfucking believable.

Speaker 1 It's crazy.

Speaker 1 Just leave her alone.

Speaker 4 You know what we also need? Amy Lou Wood, her teeth. Leave her alone.

Speaker 5 I've been saying that.

Speaker 1 I agree.

Speaker 4 Mary, can you,

Speaker 4 what's with this lazy writing from your SNL people?

Speaker 6 I don't know. Sometimes it's bad.

Speaker 6 Like, that happens a lot.

Speaker 1 SNL did a skit trying to, like, called the White POTUS. I think they're, you know,

Speaker 1 hop on the train of the white lotus hype and stuff and made it about Donald Trump and his family.

Speaker 4 Yeah, they basically played the

Speaker 4 Ratcliffe family or whatever. Ratliff.

Speaker 1 Anyways, but Amy Lou Wood responded to Sarah Sherman's portrayal of her and described it as mean and unfunny. And so I was like, oh, I wonder, I usually find like SNL funny.
Let me go watch it.

Speaker 1 And it literally was so unfunny that I was like, no, she's right.

Speaker 4 The portrayal of Amy Lee Wood is basically what like you would say if you went to like a fourth grader and said, hey, can you mimic this person?

Speaker 4 And you showed a picture, like you showed a scene from Amy and

Speaker 4 White Lotus. They did like what a fourth grader would do, where they did the whole like showed the teeth and

Speaker 4 like that was it. That was like, it was six seconds of just like mocking her teeth.
That that was that was it.

Speaker 6 Yeah, it also just conceptually didn't make sense for the sketch because everyone, every single character, like John Hamm was Rick as RFK.

Speaker 6 So it would have made sense if Sarah Sherman was Amy Lou as like Cheryl Hines, which would have been funny. But then it wasn't.

Speaker 6 But then also, Amy Lou Wood said that her issue was with like the writing of us now and did say she didn't blame Sarah Sherman.

Speaker 1 But it's also like it's just not funny and it wasn't smart. No, yeah.

Speaker 5 If you have to wear prosthetics to make a joke out of someone, I feel like it's harmful.

Speaker 4 Have we figured out whether Amy Lou Wood and Walton are still

Speaker 4 not confirmed? Is there still drama going on there?

Speaker 1 I think there's still...

Speaker 6 I don't know. Jason Isaacs has been really cagey about the whole thing.
And then he was like, I'm not saying any drama. And it's like, girl, you started saying all of this.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think so. All that's still confirmed is that somebody is blocked and that the tag is not coming up in the comments are still not coming up on Walton's page.

Speaker 5 He doesn't follow her on Instagram as of now.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well, hmm.
Block.

Speaker 1 Allegedly. That's not confirmed.
Her tag does not live up and her comments are. still true, but that's usually the sign of blocking, but allegedly.

Speaker 1 Did you see Jason Isaac's interview on NBC, some news channel where he's getting interviewed about she's like trying to talk to him about the robe scene?

Speaker 1 He was like, Would you ask Margaret Qualey or Mikey Madison if like those are her actual parts? Like, no, you wouldn't. So stop asking men if like those are prosthetics or their actual parts.

Speaker 1 The interviewer was like, Yeah, I would. I would ask them what those women are.
It's like, no, you wouldn't. You wouldn't

Speaker 1 ask him to be like, Are those your boobs or prosthetics? Was that your actual vagina that I saw?

Speaker 1 No, you would do not ever ask questions.

Speaker 1 So like, I was like, oh, is that for him for standing up for like bad of himself? He's like, I'm not talking about my penis on television.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I agree with that.

Speaker 6 Do you think Erewhon has the right to not talk about the cockroaches?

Speaker 1 Do you think they're going to make a notes app apology or a black screen apology? Yeah. Well, people eat cockroaches.

Speaker 4 They'll find a way to elevate it and overcharge you.

Speaker 5 They did make an apology already, though. They did say we deeply regret that a roach was found in our tonic bar and we sincerely apologize for this lapse in our standards.

Speaker 1 It also wasn't a single roach, it was two live roaches and one dead one. And that's a village.
Where there's three, there's a family. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. There's a small community, and it was under their coffee machine.

Speaker 5 Well, that's where you're mistaken because one of them was for the smoothies, the other one was the live one.

Speaker 1 My apologies, of course. It's probably a new collaboration.
Not that I'm saying we deeply regret that a roach was found.

Speaker 6 Like, you know, you go to 7-Eleven, they're proud of it, and that roach serves you coffee, and you say thank you.

Speaker 1 You say thank you, and you say yes, sir, and yes, ma'am.

Speaker 1 To those roaches at 7-Eleven. Yes, you do.

Speaker 4 Well, we have a jam-packed episode lined up for you. Moments from now, Lisa Traeger will be joining us, the very hilarious comedian that has a hilarious special out on Netflix called Night Owl Plush.

Speaker 4 She's also just a big Bravo super fan. She'll be with us shortly to talk all things comedy and Bravo Plus.

Speaker 4 We took Jordan Davis's recommendation and jumped into Million Dollar Secret over the weekend, streaming now on Netflix. Lots of fun, very, definitely very like traders coated.

Speaker 4 And we have the winner, Cara, with us to talk about that experience, what it was like to win the Million Dollars and survive the gauntlet. Fun fact, she works for In-N-Out.

Speaker 4 Like, what a great story for having someone who went from working in fast food to becoming a millionaire.

Speaker 1 Like, a lot of fun.

Speaker 8 She went back to working at In-N-Out happening too.

Speaker 1 Hardworking scene.

Speaker 4 We love that. Anyways, well, we have Cara with us from Million Dollar Secret.
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Speaker 2 Do we just start? Hi.

Speaker 1 Missing you. So excited to be here.

Speaker 4 Lisa, how are you? We're so excited to have you.

Speaker 2 I'm so pumped. I'm always in your comment section fighting for my life.

Speaker 1 Are you?

Speaker 1 Excited to be.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. I'm always defending the girls, I swear.

Speaker 1 Oh, you're in clear fighting. Are you arguing with me?

Speaker 4 Are you arguing with my other?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 2 No, just truly anyone that will argue back with me.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay.

Speaker 4 Well, thanks for, honestly, thanks for the engagement.

Speaker 2 No worries.

Speaker 1 I really appreciate it.

Speaker 1 I wanted to start

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Speaker 4 I felt very seen watching your special last night. It really just, I don't know,

Speaker 4 has that been in your heart for a long time? Like, how long have you been a member of these clubs?

Speaker 2 I'm like a sucker for the edit and the algorithm. I don't have any more of my own opinions or thoughts.
Like, whatever is given to me is what I'm into.

Speaker 2 So right now it's like little gay boys singing My Heart Will Go On in public. That's my explore page.
And it's, it's so cute and sweet and they're so earnest and talented.

Speaker 2 And then Mu Ding took over my life and I still haven't let her go.

Speaker 1 Really? I feel that hasn't come and gone off your for you page?

Speaker 2 Absolutely not no and she did for a little bit and i was livid and so they brought it back has she grown she yeah she's like nine months now yeah

Speaker 1 i was like yeah is this the hip she's forever captured in my mind as just like a tiny little thing how long have you been into bravo

Speaker 2 2006 honestly the first episode literally

Speaker 2 county

Speaker 2 Yeah, the first moments of like the, what is it, Docado?

Speaker 1 Terracotta?

Speaker 2 No, what was the why am i forgetting the cul-de-sac they all love then the community like that none of them can afford to live in now yeah no i've been watching since the beginning and probably even before like um james lipton the inside the actor's studio like i've been a bravo head even before like the andy reign

Speaker 1 codo de caza yeah what is your favorite like show on bravo Real House Wise of New York, I think.

Speaker 2 What?

Speaker 2 Not right now, but in terms of history, like that's, that that

Speaker 2 has always been a big part of my life.

Speaker 1 And I quote it the most.

Speaker 2 I would say I quote it the most.

Speaker 1 Did you see Ramona's picture on Instagram? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I mean, what a loony tune.
I don't get why her daughter won't help her.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Right.
Avery's too busy with her business. She's like throwing bachelorette parties.
She's like, I don't have time, mom.

Speaker 4 Has she commented on the Photoshop or is she just kind of out there pretending everything's fine?

Speaker 5 It's not her first rodeo.

Speaker 5 All the housewives who do this where they foost tune one image, but not the other one. So I don't think they care.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but wasn't there one daughter that helped her mom? There was someone that posted a crazy photo and the daughter was like. She blamed the daughter.
No, the daughter went, take this down, mom.

Speaker 1 And then it happened, but I forgot which person it was.

Speaker 7 The single ally in the group.

Speaker 1 The comments under Ramona's like, she looks like a newborn baby.

Speaker 2 It's, it's sad. I mean, I don't get it because it's like, who was it? The millionaire matchmaker went on Watch What Happens Live and Andy goes, you look good.
Why are you doing this to your face?

Speaker 2 Like, that's

Speaker 2 what I was doing.

Speaker 4 She was promoting the show I did with her. Oh, my God.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And Andy was like, you look good.
Why are you fucking up your face on the internet?

Speaker 4 No, it was like, yeah, it was like Patty was out there promoting it. And I'm just like, what is she doing? And then finally, yeah, Andy asked her about it.
It was like a totally different person.

Speaker 4 But Pat, when I promote, when I posted for it, I posted the photo and then Patty DM'd me and she told me that CW Corporate wanted me to delete that photo and put it up because it wasn't, like the one I I posted, quote unquote, wasn't approved by corporate.

Speaker 4 And I definitely did not believe her. So I just left it up.

Speaker 1 It just wasn't edited of her.

Speaker 1 She's like, so actually, the network doesn't want this photo out there. You need to remove it.

Speaker 4 Wait, the network wants a AI Photoshop version that doesn't look anything like you? Like, I don't know about that, Patty.

Speaker 2 I love the, I love the lie.

Speaker 6 Yeah. It's a commit.

Speaker 1 No, yeah, stick to it.

Speaker 4 No, she was fully, fully committed to it. So are you watching the little summer house right now?

Speaker 2 Yeah, no, right. Like, now I understand what you're saying is like right now, what I'm into for sure, the summer house, the breakup, I think it's all very compelling.

Speaker 1 How are you? Where are you sitting with like the Lexi-Jesse relationship?

Speaker 2 Oh, it's like humiliating. I don't know what happens in that house where these like girls get so into, but they're also love bombing and lying to these women.
So, I mean, it's diabolical.

Speaker 2 I would say it's diabolical. And you know, he didn't just get his toe sucked.
It's crazy. Yeah.
37 minutes. I don't know.

Speaker 4 We need to get Jesse off.

Speaker 1 break down each minute of these 37 minutes like what was going on in minute six like because you can't you know like at that point you're still watching you're just looking when will he start telling the truth that's i guess you could watch but he must have jerked off in the corner while watching like there's no way yeah he was just in there and like there's just no answer that i'm not pissed about you know like At the end of the day, it was a threesome and like there was naked body parts and you were watching the naked body parts and I'm not interested in that, you know?

Speaker 2 No, and it's totally okay if you're into that. Why are you tricking this woman into being boyfriend and girlfriend? And like, that's what I don't understand.

Speaker 2 You could just be a single, tall, sexy man in the house.

Speaker 1 No, Lisa, what's crazy is the like switch up from his confessionals to like what he's saying in front of her. Like

Speaker 1 he knows they're going to put that seconds after. He knows how the show works.
And he just has no shame in his confessionals.

Speaker 4 I think he's just kind of trying out what it, what, like, you know, like what it feels like to have a girlfriend. He just fought cancer.

Speaker 4 I just feel like Jesse gets a free pass for at least a year or two.

Speaker 2 The cancer pass. I agree.

Speaker 1 I don't know. You're right.
He should.

Speaker 2 Why lie? Why lie?

Speaker 1 It just doesn't. That's what I'm saying.
You're already tall. People already expect it from you.

Speaker 1 Why are you pretending you want to be in a relationship when you literally could have the freedom to do whatever and nobody could get mad at you because you're not putting labels on it?

Speaker 2 Yeah. And Lexi probably would have, by the end, still been into it.

Speaker 4 But she also really wants it too, you know?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I know, but it's like, that's like agreeing to do something. That's like saying, I'm going to not eat sugar for a week, knowing that I just bought a bunch of cookies, candy, whatever.

Speaker 1 Like, you're going to summer house. You're going to go be at parties every weekend getting hammered off of your face.
Like, why not wait till the summer's over? And get a girlfriend for you.

Speaker 2 Like, you can have fun and flirt. That's like why we enjoy the show.
There's a way to flirt without full-blown lying.

Speaker 1 You know, Lexi confronting Sierra about the like flirting. She's like, I just like know y'all are brother and sister.

Speaker 1 She's too comedian for

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, they're definitely not

Speaker 1 brother and sister. You know, no.
Even Sierra's face when she was saying it was just kind of like, um, okay, that's an interesting take on that. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And this is like dark, but if you're over 18, like incest is legal.

Speaker 2 Like it's frowned upon and we don't like it, but it's not like this whole thing of like brother and sister. It's like, I don't know, it could, you know, they're white loaded.

Speaker 1 Some people are white loads. Yeah, some people are.
It is legal.

Speaker 2 But Lexi, it's just so immature. The following, like, I kind of miss that era of

Speaker 2 life too. I don't know.
I don't see who people follow or like. Like, that's not.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't even know how to like look at it.

Speaker 4 I really appreciated the whole meeting the parents bit because

Speaker 4 I think meeting someone's parents is the most overrated like milestone in an early relationship that like everyone freaks out about and acts like it's the biggest deal in the world.

Speaker 4 And I kind of love that like Lexi was this like, and in somewhat fairness to Jesse, minus the fact that he also beat cancer, which I kind of give him a pass.

Speaker 4 But like, she's just like, I want to try to make this man my boyfriend. And I want to make this like former fuckboy.

Speaker 4 I want to, I want to lock him up and I'm going to, I'm going to insist that I meet his parents. She kind of owned that was like of her doing.
Jesse was like, this is.

Speaker 4 way faster than I wouldn't introduce anyone to my parents, but like whatever she wants to.

Speaker 4 So like, I guess it's just like, sure, I can meet her, introduce her to my parents because it really doesn't mean anything.

Speaker 4 But people always freak out about the milestones of meeting parents. I just kind of loved it.
It kind of showed just how like unserious it is.

Speaker 4 Even for a guy who even says that, like, if he had it his way, he would have waited much longer. But she was like, Yeah, I guess if you really want to, we can go ahead and meet Terry and Jill.

Speaker 4 Now he's having a coughing attack, so we're just going to let her. deal with that.

Speaker 2 I feel you. I have no opinion about the parent thing.
I don't know. I just,

Speaker 2 I don't care. I think it's weird.

Speaker 4 What's more weird that she wanted to meet the parents or that Jesse?

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 2 That it's such a commitment because she does, she has such a weird, she has a different relationship with her parents, right?

Speaker 1 They're clubbing.

Speaker 2 They're vacationing. Like, you can't assume everyone else has that relationship with their parents.

Speaker 4 It was such like a non-thing, but like, I don't know. I was, I kind of loved it.

Speaker 2 I'm sure after they did it, Jesse was like, this is a maniac. Don't worry about this.

Speaker 2 Like, I don't, you know, I'm sure off camera he was like you don't you'll never see this woman again my favorite part was that they're not boyfriend and girlfriend but they are exclusive and they have met each other's parents but he's like we're not boyfriend girlfriend or maybe lexi said that i forget but it's like the most insane thing in the world and then corl was like congrats i heard yeah it's like is it that big of a deal but it is yeah i yeah i don't get the sublevel of exclusive versus boyfriend and girlfriend the dimensions of dating these days yeah i don't understand the exclusive but not boyfriend but not boyfriend it's so hard to see dogs on a screen and not be able to touch them.

Speaker 1 Have y'all ever had that?

Speaker 1 A coughing, like where you are so embarrassed, you're like, it's a little tickle in your throat and you're like, this is going to be, and everyone's going to ask you if you're okay because you're going to look like you're dying.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 6 I've done it on this couch.

Speaker 1 Glad I'm in a safe space.

Speaker 2 No, I have a disgusting cough because I've been sick, but then I. I'm better, but I won't stop smoking weed for the life of me.
And so the cough stays forever.

Speaker 1 I hear your girl. Oh, really? Cool.

Speaker 2 and people are like what about edibles and drinks i'm like it's not the same

Speaker 4 i want to join it's definitely not the same yeah i don't i don't have 45 minutes just to sit there and wait for that sweet release to kick in i don't like she's trying to economize i think it's kicking in nope yeah right that's where i'm taking another one and then being like oh and you really don't know it's kicked in until like after you're kind of like

Speaker 4 you know yeah and it took you 20 more minutes to realize that you've been high for 20 minutes yes it's it's only good like if you're at a pool all day.

Speaker 2 That's an edible day. Okay.
Because then you're just floating and you're like, oh, nice.

Speaker 2 But other than that, I need it down to the business and I want it to burn.

Speaker 2 I wish there was more potheads on Bravo.

Speaker 1 You know that they're all smoking weed at Summer House and it's all on TikTok. No, I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 There's a video of Amanda and she's maybe Western Jesse posted it, but she's wearing the parrot head and she's just smoking a joint through it and they're all just like kikiing before they go outside to the party.

Speaker 1 But yeah, they're

Speaker 4 Amanda gives huge pothead.

Speaker 1 Oh yeah.

Speaker 4 And I said I would love Amanda. I have to say if you're listening and you feel judged.
I relate.

Speaker 1 It's like, do I have to leave my apartment? Why? I have everything I need right here.

Speaker 2 She's like Jennifer Anniston to me. Yeah.
You know, just delicate little jewelry, cute outfits, fun, likable.

Speaker 1 I like her a lot. As I said, Paige is known for the fashionista, but like Amanda has such great day-to-day style that it's like nobody recognizes it.
But like she is a little fashionista herself.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and she could dress so casual and still look so elevated.

Speaker 1 Like you want to wear what she's wearing. Where it's like Paige is like, that's a moment where like Amanda's like, can I just hug your clothes?

Speaker 2 I know, Paige was wearing like a Prada dress just at the barbecue. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I couldn't believe it. Like she's doing well.
And especially around barbecue sauce, you know? Yeah. They're not worried.
They're cocking seafood like butter.

Speaker 4 You know, it was this, listen, it was also the same episode where she constantly just reminded us that between her and Craig, she makes way, way, way more money than him.

Speaker 4 So she was just like, I don't even care if I get a stain. I'm whatever.
I'm wearing Prada. Buy it again.
Whatever. I'll buy it again.
I make more money than Craig.

Speaker 4 It's fine. She makes more money than everybody.

Speaker 1 She said she was going to buy Loverboy and sell it if Kyle didn't get his act together.

Speaker 6 God, that was so cool.

Speaker 1 It was such a good comeback.

Speaker 2 Well, that's the one thing in the comments, and I have to get a life, but like

Speaker 2 the audience doesn't get how much more successful she is than him.

Speaker 1 Really?

Speaker 2 Yeah. They're like, how, yeah, a lot of the Bravo accounts are like, God, she's so cocky.
Oh, she's delusional. She's this.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, she was on Jimmy Fallon.

Speaker 2 She's a Tressama ad, you guys. Like, there's no way these pillows are competing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 6 She's got that Tressame money.

Speaker 1 Kroger.

Speaker 4 Lisa, what are they saying about her, about Paige in that context? Like,

Speaker 4 she needs to go back to Craig because like she won't be able to take care of herself? Or what are they saying?

Speaker 2 So this was the Vaulters upset post-it. That was, that's like this account.
I mean, yeah, I'm like deep. I got to read a book.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 2 basically, people think that she's out of line and delusional. And there's no way that she's more successful than Craig.
And that, like, that comment was out of line that she was the breadwinner.

Speaker 1 It's giving Southern term fans.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And it was very much like, ugh, that tour.
That's a once in a what. I'm like, selling out Radio City Musical three times in a row.
Is it truly?

Speaker 2 I don't know how they're trying to like make it seem not as amazing as it is. Right.
It's just their pod. Paige is

Speaker 1 really rich.

Speaker 2 The Amazon Live.

Speaker 1 Her apartment.

Speaker 1 Her apartment. I was like, okay, this is a set from Sex in the City.
She's like, she's got a shoeline. She's got a chandelier.
She's got a boy. She's Carrie fucking Bradshaw.

Speaker 1 No, she's Charlotte York. She is Charlotte York.
Yeah, she's Charlotte York.

Speaker 4 I still don't think Craig needed to defend her during those rumors, but she definitely does make way more money than him.

Speaker 2 No, he didn't have to, but then to act like, I'm just a little good boy when you're like alluding to these rumors is annoying.

Speaker 2 I don't like the way he's trying to frame himself as some victim of something.

Speaker 4 Well, yeah, they're both definitely trying to win the breakup that they both told us was totally amicable and very chill.

Speaker 4 And I remember being like, I don't know, I feel like it's going to get messy. And it did.

Speaker 1 It was fun. It did.
What did you make of Lindsay being like, well, your little girlfriend, the home wrecking whore, like that whole scene at the Shabbat dinner?

Speaker 2 I'm a Lindsay Hubbard apologist. I have been for years.
I've really liked the TV she brings for me. And I'm loving that Paige and her have this new little like friendship.

Speaker 2 And I love Paige's take of like, yeah, Lindsay is wrong, doesn't care, was like, I guess I'm wrong. And continued, like, no shame.
She, it's, it's beautiful to watch.

Speaker 1 She was like, Lindsay Hubbard raised me. And it was just like remembering them fighting like seasons apart.
And she's like, nope, that woman. I love her.

Speaker 1 I will say it was so funny to watch like Paige have that moment in the beginning where she's like, listen, Lindsay Hubbard does not admit when she's wrong.

Speaker 1 And then to have her be like, you were seeing this bitch while we were talking. Prove it, prove it.
And then he proves it.

Speaker 4 She's like, but still, you need to tell you, you know, it's like, she couldn't be be like all right i fucked it up it's like we literally started her girlfriend to get her timeline straight yeah i really appreciated lindsay because i it felt a bit performative in a sense but like honestly to me it's just like put this woman on roni like yes i think lindsay knew she's just like i've been hanging out in this bedroom while people go out every fucking night i need to get in some of this action i'm protecting my piece too much i'll just you know what i'm gonna fucking just make carl's life a living hell for one more night and like i think she absolutely knew but it was an amazing performance and it was really quite lovely.

Speaker 4 And it really, honestly, like, it made me miss Lindsay this whole season because she's been really chilling. Like, she really can deliver at a moment's notice.

Speaker 2 And she let kind of Carl get a burn-in on her. And it did, like, with the, you have a bad taste in people.
And he was like, yeah, clearly.

Speaker 2 Like, kind of gave him that.

Speaker 2 It was, but wasn't offended.

Speaker 1 She was there to riff.

Speaker 2 It was just fun and fighting without the aftermath of darkness.

Speaker 1 Yes, over Shabbat. What is your reaction to your ex-boyfriend saying he prays for you?

Speaker 2 Anyone saying that is like, I would hit him in his neck like that. I would be so upset.
It's like, bless your heart. You know, it's like so rude.

Speaker 4 What if he topped it off by calling you ma'am?

Speaker 4 Ma'am, I'll pray for you. Wow.

Speaker 1 Would you be okay?

Speaker 2 I would be pissed. I would be pissed.
I would, I would break a glass.

Speaker 1 I would be so mad. Please, I can't drop ma'am, sir.
I can't. I won't.
Oh, you love it.

Speaker 2 You can't.

Speaker 1 I love it so much.

Speaker 4 She is from the South, though.

Speaker 2 It's just so insulting to me.

Speaker 1 I'm like, I'm still in my head, like a young girl. I don't think it means you're old.
It just means that, like, I respect you.

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't know. If like a 23-year-old dude was like, yes, ma'am, I'd be like, all right, I'm going to go make an appointment at the plastic surgery.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't be like, oh, get that remote on. Oh, that's kind.
He's like respecting me. He's just being like.
I'm going to be like, how old do you think I am?

Speaker 1 You think sir is also means like someone's someone's old?

Speaker 2 I don't know if I've ever said sir to anyone unless

Speaker 2 like I'm being a bitch.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Sir is condescending to me. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Sir.

Speaker 2 I'll tell you the last time I said sir, this is a wild story. This happened five years.
Like I remember this so well, but I ordered Postmates homestate.

Speaker 2 And when I went outside to meet the delivery driver, he was feeding the taco to a German shepherd that was on the sidewalk. Shut the fuck up.
And I said to him, sir, I think that's my food.

Speaker 2 I think that's the last time I said sir.

Speaker 1 It like

Speaker 2 what oh the other time was when my uber driver fell asleep in salt lake city on the highway and was veering into the medium i went sir wake up wake up like that's how i use sir wait i have so many questions about your taco with the german shepherd i can't i i we went back and forth for a little bit his excuse to me was I thought you lived in this other house.

Speaker 2 That's what, that was his response when I said, I think you're feeding my food to this dog.

Speaker 1 He's like, I thought it was your dog. I thought you sent the dog out because he was hungry.

Speaker 2 He said, if this was your dog, you'd be happy. I'm doing this, right? Like taking care of the, I'm like, no, you shouldn't feed dogs cheese and sour cream either.

Speaker 2 Like, if it was a stray, I would help. But postmates called me back immediately.
I've never had customer service like call so fast when I was like, my, my food's been fed to a dog. I don't know.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I bet they were like, oh my get this girl on the phone right now.

Speaker 2 It was crazy. They only offered me $5.
I was like, you got it.

Speaker 2 I need a little bit more of a credit, please.

Speaker 1 That should have been a TikTok video. BuzzFeed would have picked that up instantly.

Speaker 2 I should have been more on top of it. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Did you see the Kyle Richards and Teddy Mellencamp video over the weekend that like she got into a fight with a dog walker and she's like, it looks like almost like Kyle instigated it.

Speaker 2 Can someone show?

Speaker 2 What was it?

Speaker 1 You haven't seen this? There's like.

Speaker 2 I do wish the best for Teddy. I'm glad she's.

Speaker 1 But Teddy was there and then Kyle's like hiding behind her like while she's like filming this woman.

Speaker 6 I think Kyle got mad at the woman for her dogs.

Speaker 5 There's a second of the dog kind of being dragged a little bit. Yeah.
But there's also a context of they were recording them for a lot longer than what we see.

Speaker 2 The recordings were, because in my head, if it's like if I get in, I've, I live in New York, so whatever, bumping happens. And then sometimes you realize like, oh, this person might hit me.

Speaker 2 And then I would leave. I don't get continuing.

Speaker 2 to talk to someone that is clearly gonna hit you.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And can hit you.

Speaker 1 If you need to hide behind someone and walk away. And your friend has brain cancer.
If you keep like running away from this person, but not leaving the vicinity,

Speaker 1 there's an issue here. She just keeps like running in circles.

Speaker 2 No, this recently happened. I bumped in with this guy.
We were both yelling at each other. And then I was like, oh, I don't want to get hit.
I got it. Like, I don't need the last word here.

Speaker 1 I'm going to get the fuck out of here. I do need Kyle or Teddy or someone to come out on their Instagram stories and give us some context.

Speaker 2 But you, you saw that woman, right? Like when someone calls me ma'am, that's what I think they think I am. Like that woman

Speaker 1 fighting.

Speaker 4 That's that's how I feel when I get you think when she threw off the whatever she threw off, that was the moment Kyle called her ma'am.

Speaker 1 Absolutely. Yeah.
She said, what did you call me? What's crazy is that morning, I watched Teddy post a story being like, I'm getting out. I'm on a walk with my girls.

Speaker 1 And it's like the beginning of that walk. And she's with Kyle and she's with the other woman.

Speaker 1 And she's like, happy to be outside happy to be on a walk and it's like well this is how it ended I need some content

Speaker 2 of an Agnes Vardo movie yeah hopefully they'll go on a live soon

Speaker 5 where I need a live security guard does show up and they let the woman go so I think it was like a diffusion of like

Speaker 1 I hope they would let her go like what would they detain her I think Kyle and them whatever reason they thought they were in the right that's where they were recording so I mean that's always the best when someone records and posts it and then everyone's like you're wrong like the jersey Mike situation.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 2 I bet Kyle's been a Karen out in the wild.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 I definitely see that happening. She's asked for a manager.
You've missed the mark today. Do you know who my family is?

Speaker 1 She's done the, do you know who I am? Yeah.

Speaker 6 Yeah. Oh, she has ruined a Hilton employee's life.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 That's actually my flaw as a person, too. If my hotel room is not ready in time, I do get more upset than I'd like.

Speaker 1 Oh, I've been fighting with

Speaker 1 people on the phone for far too long about deliveries. We're supposed to get a rug delivered, which first of all, why they set this up this way, they set it up for like a white glove delivery.

Speaker 1 Like, I don't need someone to bring this in. It's a rug.
Leave it on my doorstep. Like, I'll roll it out whenever I feel like rolling me out.

Speaker 1 But they're, they delivered it to like a third-party delivery center. And they are, they've like pushed my delivery date four times now.
And now they're like, oh, like, oh, it's too busy.

Speaker 1 Like they can't put it on the truck. And I was like, well, can I come pick it up? And they're like, well, you have to get like confirmation from the sender.
And I'm like, well, put them on the phone.

Speaker 1 Call them right now. Well, three-way.
He's like, no, they got to send an email. I'm like, I, I don't even want you to do this.
Like, I just wanted it UPS, dropped off at my door.

Speaker 1 I didn't sign up for this. And I've been yelling at people for so long.

Speaker 4 I was pretty impressed, though.

Speaker 4 I'm enraged for you.

Speaker 1 Did they get it? No.

Speaker 4 Still not here.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 I have a feeling they lost it. And they're like, sorry.

Speaker 1 No, literally. I said, he, um, he said, ma'am, it's not going to be that hard to like get it, get you your rug.

Speaker 1 And I said, well, if it's not going to be that hard, I need you to drive, get in your car. I need you to drive to the warehouse.

Speaker 1 I need you to put my rug in your personal car and then drive it to my house. He said this.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, well, how can I make sure that I never, ever let a package that I'm having delivered be delivered to your warehouse? He's like, I don't understand the question. Like,

Speaker 1 I don't know how I can make it any clearer. I never want to work with you people again.

Speaker 4 I was really impressed. It wasn't the craziest customer service experience we had

Speaker 4 recently. We were flying back to LA with our daughter.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 we've flown with her, I don't know how many times? 20 times? 100.

Speaker 4 100 times. I'm not even going to name the airline because it's not even the airline's fault.
And we got to, we were checking in.

Speaker 4 And if you fly with like an infant under two, they just like, you have to just call them up and be like, hey, I got an infant under two. Here's their birthday.
You know, they're our, our, our child.

Speaker 4 And they're like, great, all you're ready to go. And we didn't do that when we booked the flight.
So a couple of times we've done this before. You go up to the front desk.

Speaker 4 You're like, hi, we have our child is confirming. Just add them on.

Speaker 4 And this person, this lady was just like,

Speaker 4 well, can I see a birth certificate? We're like, excuse me?

Speaker 1 Huh?

Speaker 4 And like,

Speaker 4 they're like, yeah, no, we're going to need a birth certificate.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, and then she says, or a record of her shots. I was like, huh? I'm sorry.
You think I got her from the pound?

Speaker 1 Like a record of her shots.

Speaker 4 And we were just like kind of startled. And like our flight was like, you know, we had like an hour to go.
So a little panicked. And she's like, yeah, I'm just going to need to see something.

Speaker 4 I'm like, we've flown with her for like

Speaker 4 several times. We've never been asked for this.

Speaker 1 Then she says, well, do you have a photo of her in the hospital? I'm like, ma'am, are you just trying to see pictures of my baby?

Speaker 1 I'm kind of in a panic.

Speaker 4 I'm scrolling through my phone and I'm looking at like literally delivery photos of like Natalie in the hospital.

Speaker 4 You should show her the video of me giving her, because like all I'm thinking is like, I'm certainly, we need to get home, certainly not going to leave my kid. And this person's literally pretending.

Speaker 4 Like what was crazy is we finally figured out that she had no idea what she was talking about. And she's just like making up.

Speaker 4 documents that they should we thought we should she thought we should have and then finally i literally showed her a photo of natalie in the hospital bed holding river she's like oh okay she's like well you know you really should and i'm like yeah i really don't think we need this.

Speaker 4 And she's like, well, you know, you really should just like bring, you know, some extra documentation just in case.

Speaker 4 Basically, she was like, just in case you meet someone like me who is just going to randomly ask for documents that you don't need.

Speaker 4 And then she's like, you never know who you could trust as if she like just got done like watching some kind of like dark web documentary on like child trafficking.

Speaker 4 Like she definitely had just got done watching that was making sure that like our child was ours.

Speaker 4 But it was just kind of freaky to think about how this this person who's like working the front counter at the airline was just making up random rules for the airline, like in terms of like whether they could allow an infant child on the flight or not.

Speaker 4 It was kind of slightly terrifying. And we literally had to show her

Speaker 4 a photo of Natalie in a hospital bed to get our to get our daughter on an airline. It was crazy.

Speaker 2 And it's not like the baby freshborn looks like your baby now. It could be any random baby too if you were trafficking.

Speaker 7 Babies do look the same.

Speaker 1 That's exactly what I said. And she was like, well, there's no photos on a birth certificate.
And I'm like, no, I get that, but you just switched what your ask was. It started with birth certificate.

Speaker 1 And then do you have any photos of her in the hospital? Yeah.

Speaker 4 And in between sandwich, in between shot records.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 2 I hope it was like a fun prank that the employees were doing. Like, go, go ask to do that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they meet in the break room and they're like, oh my God, I got the best people.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I literally saw her vagina.

Speaker 2 I had a customer service thing wildly yesterday. So I know dry bar is always going to have not great service.
It's kind of,

Speaker 2 but I landed yesterday. I wanted to look good.
I wanted a blowout for today. So I made an appointment for five o'clock.
They called me two days ago going, can you actually come at 4.30?

Speaker 2 We're closing early. I go, okay, show up at 4.30.
They do not take me until 5.25. That's insane, bro.
I got out of my blow dry at 6.17.

Speaker 1 I got there at 4.30. No.
Did you say anything?

Speaker 2 Well, once the woman was done finally with her blowout, her other client, she comes and goes, I actually have to take my legally state-mandated break.

Speaker 1 I go, what?

Speaker 2 She goes, I have to take a break. It's the law.
So either my break or if he finishes first, he'll take you. And I went, okay, I just, if I came at five, I wouldn't be that mad.

Speaker 2 But you guys asked me to come early. Right.
She goes, I'll bring you champagne. I go, fine.

Speaker 1 The bottle.

Speaker 2 But then I, I, didn't have anywhere to go. So I couldn't be that mad.
I didn't have any plans.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but now you're just like stuck. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I smoke to join.

Speaker 4 I drank champagne.

Speaker 2 I read a town and country.

Speaker 1 It wasn't that fun.

Speaker 1 Have you ever been convinced to order a particular piece of whatever it is, like in store? Like you go to a store and like, oh, we don't have that. We can order it for you.
You're like, no, it's okay.

Speaker 1 They're like, but it'll be free shipping. And you're like, okay, like, sure, I guess.
Like, I just spent 10 minutes like searching our back shipment for like this size of shirt and we don't have it.

Speaker 1 So you might as well just order it because I spent so much time. And you're like, oh, okay, sure, let's order it.

Speaker 1 We did that in a store where we ordered it in person because the girl, and I was going to order it online, the girl really was pushing. I'm like, she really wants that commission.

Speaker 1 She wants that commission really bad. And then it has, I haven't gotten any notification.
about like, oh, it's shipped. It's on the way.
Nothing.

Speaker 1 So we go into the store yesterday and Nick's like, it's almost like we gave you our money for nothing. And she was like, oh, well, let me just get right on that right now.

Speaker 4 No, she goes, did you guys get the coffee table? I go, no. It's almost like we didn't actually buy it, but still gave you money.

Speaker 1 We still don't.

Speaker 2 We still don't have it. Are you getting the table?

Speaker 1 We hope so. We haven't gotten any update.
So we'll see.

Speaker 4 Are you watching House Wives of Atlanta?

Speaker 2 I am.

Speaker 4 I am. Where do you stand on the nudes?

Speaker 2 I didn't know how it was going to feel because the photos did exist, but I also think that's like pretty gross. And then watching it was so dark.
So dark. Watching it was upsetting.

Speaker 2 It felt like Kenya was in a trance. Like the rage I saw on her face was blinding her to this like huge like event for her.
She wants this for her daughter, the salon and to do that and big misstep.

Speaker 2 And it sucks she like messed up this season and career. I don't, it's, I don't know, it's really a bummer.

Speaker 4 And then when they, when they showed the footage of the original like accusation of like the claim that Brent like made the threat, like it honestly was way more watered down than I anticipated.

Speaker 4 Like, I don't know what you thought, but she was like, when she's like, well, I have whips, I have pistols. She didn't even say gun.
She said pistols.

Speaker 4 And then afterwards, I'm pretty sure I heard like Kenya in the background explaining to someone that like pistols means the same as guns.

Speaker 4 As if like even in that moment, she was like, wait, did you hear what she said? And like she said pistols as if it was like, I guess maybe she technically shouldn't have said that, but I don't know.

Speaker 4 It really kind of gave me, it gave me the same energy of Ben still around meet the parents when he's saying ba-bom, ba-bom, bom, bom, bom, bom, ba-bom-. Like, it was like, is this really a threat?

Speaker 4 Or is this he, is she saying something she probably shouldn't have said, she probably should apologize for? Like, it wasn't like, I'm going to kill you. I have a gun.

Speaker 4 You better not be back when I get here. I'm going to blow you away.
That's the energy Kenya is acting like, you know, Britt threw her way. And it was just like kind of a nothing statement.

Speaker 4 And then she pulls out the poster boards. It was, it was so dark.

Speaker 2 And Britt came to apologize. She brought the bouquet.
She said she was ready to apologize. So for Kenya to like continue on that journey with the photos is pretty.

Speaker 4 Yeah. And then we're finding out that like from this episode, it was photos when Britt refers to herself as a teenager.
And then I think Portia is the one now claiming that's when she was underage.

Speaker 4 It's unclear if that's true. Now, who's making that, Justin, Q catch us up here? Who's making the claim that someone else from the cast sourced these photos?

Speaker 5 Basically, Portia posted a video where it was like teasing like an interview she was doing. And she basically was like, well, here's the tea.

Speaker 5 Like someone from this cast that's currently on Atlanta gave Kenya the videos Kenya commented on that post saying absolutely no one on the show gave me anything stop using my situation as clickbait to which Porsche responded to her comment saying that's a lie we talked day and night and I personally went to network slash production and fought for you before you showed her underage explicit pics I also went after as well because I was hurt you had to leave I checked on you because I cared and care Basically, she was just like, this is a lie.

Speaker 5 Someone gave it to you. You also shared it.
It was underage. So that's what Porsche is claiming.

Speaker 1 But if somebody gave it to her, like, why would Kenya deny that? Yeah, that's the point.

Speaker 1 Because that's kind of like where it's like, now it's either somebody gave it to you and said that this was a good idea and encouraged this to happen, or you went and dug it up yourself.

Speaker 1 Because I posted it out.

Speaker 2 I want to know who printed it on the phone core.

Speaker 1 That's what I want to know. Yeah.
Because I think that like. contradicts her claim of being like, it's not revenge porn.
It's all over the internet. Like all I had to do was just search her name.

Speaker 1 And if someone gave it to her, then that means like it was a little bit more under the table

Speaker 5 got you what i think it depends on which cast member you're asking because i know some cast members out online are saying like revenge porn is a loaded term like it was wrong but also might be something else you have brit admitting that she was wrong on watch what happens live like i think the story is still developing for sure well what do they mean by it's a loaded term it's a it's pornographic content and it was used in a way well it's actually the porn the definition of porn is it's two consensual people okay and so a lot of times with revenge porn if someone's taping something and it wasn't meant for other things, it's not porn because it's not consenting.

Speaker 2 And revenge makes it seem like someone deserved them being laked.

Speaker 2 So in like government and criminal terms, they try to change the language of it because revenge means you deserved it and porn means it was consented upon.

Speaker 2 So that's why like for getting gritty why the language is fucked. For child stuff, it's child sex abuse images.

Speaker 2 I forget the adult term of like, but it's, it's just, that's why that that term is fucked up. Yeah, that makes sense, but I don't know if in the context of

Speaker 2 this because if it was a consensual thing, but yeah, that's what it sounds like.

Speaker 1 It's like her her boyfriend at the time filmed an act, but I don't know about the like displaying it or where it went.

Speaker 1 Like, did Britt know that it was being displayed or like did this person put it on the internet and make money off of it without her consent? That that I don't know.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but even even Britt was saying how she like, you know, when she was younger, she did some like OnlyFan content or she was like a cam girl. Webcam stuff.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Even if she, like, again, let's say if she was an OnlyFans model for a period of time, like, and then decided not to do it anymore, like, just because it's out there doesn't allow someone to, like, go out there and then try to weaponize it against you in a public forum and, like, shame you and try to embarrass you and, like, ruin your reputation amongst your peers just because you agreed to, like, be an OnlyFans model for a period of time.

Speaker 4 Like, that doesn't make it okay.

Speaker 4 And Kang is out there acting like the world agrees that like somehow like this is a wrong for her to do, but she chose to put it out there and it's like fair game, which is like bonkers.

Speaker 2 No, that's what some of my before the episode aired, those were discussions I was having out and about with other comics or like. just with some friends and they're like, well, it was already out.

Speaker 2 And then watching it, it just was dark and uncomfortable and wrong.

Speaker 1 And like, she went in with an intention of apologizing.

Speaker 1 And I think it was expected that a scene was going to happen to where it would make whatever happened next with Kenya make sense, but unfortunately, where it's like Brit, not unfortunately, but just like the actuality of it was Brit left, and then you still chose to move forward with that.

Speaker 2 I wonder how she felt right after the party. Like, everyone leaves, your best friends leave, the vibe is wrong.
Like, I wonder when it hit her that she messed up. Kenya.

Speaker 1 I don't think, I don't think she feels like she's in the wrong, though. You're saying Kenya? Yeah.

Speaker 5 Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, she definitely got a call from production being like, girl.

Speaker 2 But then, but production must have known those photos are coming out. Like, that's the thing with production.

Speaker 4 That's the one thing that doesn't make sense to me is just like the, the whole printing out on the poster board, bringing the poster board to the event space that they had.

Speaker 4 It is, it is very hard to believe that no one saw these posters or no one was like, hey, what are these things that these props that you're bringing? That's very hard to believe that no one saw those.

Speaker 4 That's the part that's missing for me.

Speaker 2 Because wasn't Portia defending it a little where it's like, or maybe. Maybe I'm mixing things up, but it's like, if production knew they used her for this story and then to boot her off is like

Speaker 5 because Portia also did imply that Kenya, she said she didn't know, but if Kenya comes back next season, so it's a lot of like, and Kenya said she's still in the payroll when she did Tamron Hall.

Speaker 5 So it's like, there's so many details to the story that we don't fully know.

Speaker 2 Well, and with Bravo, it's always hard because it's like, what is the line?

Speaker 1 Because,

Speaker 2 you know, the pulling of the ponytail, like in Jersey, like there's all these things and they're never consistent with what they decide to punish people for.

Speaker 1 Jennifer Aiden smashed a glass on Danielle's face last season, and they was like, Let's continue, or the other way around, but like, let's continue filming. Yeah, and then a threat.

Speaker 1 So it's kind of hard, yeah, to see where the, where the line is when it comes to Bravo pulling people.

Speaker 6 It's even interesting because, like, in like season one of Beverly Hills, you have the morally corrupt Faye Resnick, and it's like, they don't show anything, but they're actively talking about like Camille's like Playboy spread and Faye's Playboy spread.

Speaker 6 And that's just like used, you know what I mean? It's just such a different time now. And I think Bravo's still trying to figure out what is okay

Speaker 6 and like not okay. It's it's interesting.
Even in VPR, they did the roast of Jax and they showed the picture of like Jax's dick pic, but it was also Jax.

Speaker 5 So, but so it's just like that's where Kenya and her fan base has been operating on like a double standard critique of like, and that's where I think we just don't know the whole story.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, that's but like

Speaker 4 if Bravo is wrong in this story, maybe so, And maybe there's things we haven't learned.

Speaker 4 But, like, the way Kenya is acting is like, if Bravo's wrong, then that somehow and it makes her look a little better. I don't see that.
You know, I think she can be both completely wrong.

Speaker 4 And if Bravo in any way is complicit or there's a producer who like, you know, should be fired or something like that. I don't think that in any way.
lets Kenya off the hook.

Speaker 2 No, she just has an accomplice. It was uncomfortable to watch.
It was bad to watch. And that's what I'm going off of.
But I did want to say, Britt did one of my least favorite things.

Speaker 2 I don't like when a housewife is new and comes in too hard with her preconceived notions. She really, Kenya wasn't even that mean to her.

Speaker 2 Like it really,

Speaker 2 I don't like what she did.

Speaker 1 She did instigate that there was more of an issue there than it was like, pull her aside.

Speaker 2 Oh, that was a side hug, not a real hug. Like, get a life.

Speaker 1 You commented on my ring. You took my marriage.
And it's just like, it's a huge ring. Yeah.

Speaker 1 She's just asking if that's the first one you've ever gotten yeah i like shamia i'm just glad shamia's there you know who i'm tired of though drew i'm like tired of the drew sedora i'm tired of dennis i'm like i don't understand why we're playing dumb but yet you say something to put your foot in your mouth every episode and then be like no but i'm a girl's girl no he's just like my stars and my moon and my sun and he's just giving me a new life but like i'm not doing anything weird and it's like stop it Yeah, stop it immediately.

Speaker 2 But I think this season more than others, I'm seeing Porsche's kind of a hater.

Speaker 1 i'm sure

Speaker 2 she's one of my favorites i loved her on girls trip like i want to float in a pool with her like i love

Speaker 2 she's one of the most beautiful i think of all the women and like

Speaker 2 i don't know being like oh is that your voice this is your best friend from childhood that was crazy showing up to your best friend's like birthday so late trying to take i don't know it's like hard to watch portia be such a hater

Speaker 1 portia's the uh craig to page the hater boyfriend the hater best friend

Speaker 1 That's not you saying that was true.

Speaker 2 That's another thing why I'm in the comments. Like, that bothers me so much.
Like, you should want a partner that's like, I'm going to go on the road with you. Holy shit, what can I do?

Speaker 1 Someone making you watch an ABBA documentary.

Speaker 6 I mean, love ABBA, but not in that context.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's so funny.

Speaker 4 Why wasn't it a discussion that Craig would just kind of like tour with Paige? Like, was that never just?

Speaker 2 I don't think he would want to be the plus one.

Speaker 1 She thought he was going to. And then he was kind of like, well, what's the plan? Like, if you, if you're going to be leaving, like, what what about me?

Speaker 1 And she's like, wait, I thought that there was a we, not a you versus I.

Speaker 1 So he kind of created the wedge that happened there with like this insecurity that didn't need to be there.

Speaker 4 Did you enjoy your time with West on Watch What Happens Live?

Speaker 7 Yes. I couldn't believe it.

Speaker 2 I want, I was planning all day to be a little sassy to him. And then he was just so charming and kind.
And it was awesome.

Speaker 4 Were you, I'm guessing you were team Sierra last season?

Speaker 2 Oh, of course, of course. I don't like the love bombing and the lying.
It's and the parents. Like, I guess maybe I'm older.

Speaker 2 Like, I do think if you're taking someone as a date to a wedding and to meet your parents and you're doing, I don't know, apple picking, it seems like

Speaker 2 she's going to fall in love with you. And then you're being like, but I didn't actually say I wanted to be exclusive.

Speaker 2 It's like, okay, but she's allowed to fall for you in that way and be hurt and upset. Absolutely.
But it is embarrassing that she still wants to make out with him.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 1 We've all been there. But also, so real.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 He is weirdly charming. Like there, there is something about him that you just cannot dislike him.

Speaker 2 Oh, the one funny thing. Oh, and we went out till two in the morning, but I have to stop going out with younger people.
I was laying on my floor.

Speaker 2 I was wrecked. I heard the taco bell get delivered and I couldn't even move to go get it.
Like I was out by two in the morning, but he was awesome.

Speaker 2 But then we went out after, and I think it's because I'm from the former. So he was like, I thought they brought us on to talk about Ukraine.

Speaker 1 I go, watch what happens live.

Speaker 1 Like, you thought that we were going to talk about the war? No. No.

Speaker 2 But he DM'd me

Speaker 2 in the day watching my special. He's like, what are we going to drink tonight? And then I sent him a photo watching the reunion from last year.

Speaker 2 And he's like, please, God, can you watch anything else we've done?

Speaker 2 But I wanted to prep. And he brought Jen Fessler.
It was just a dream. I couldn't believe I got to play the game and win and do a shot

Speaker 2 I mean, it was. Have you met Andy before? I bartended.
Okay, okay. So I bartended once.
I was in the audience twice. And then I finally, but that was his third taping of the day.
You know, he's a busy

Speaker 1 guy.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 4 they'll do multiple tapings a day.

Speaker 1 Oh, I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 Sometimes they're not all live anymore just because he's so busy.

Speaker 4 I know that they've been live for a long time.

Speaker 2 I mean, they're live. But ours was live.

Speaker 4 They're live where they have like a live studio audience live. You know, it's it's always like, it always feels

Speaker 1 live.

Speaker 1 Yours was live, live. Ours was live.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 2 ours was live, live. And one of my good friends from LA flew it.
Like, it was just a huge moment for the group chats, the friend groups, like everything. But then also the bartender was from top chef.

Speaker 2 It was Chef Eric from season 16. So that was even huge.

Speaker 1 You're just having time.

Speaker 4 Huge.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it was, it was exciting. I just wish I wasn't taking shot after shot after shot.
And I wish I was meaner to him a little bit.

Speaker 2 But he is great. I liked him.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Got that charisma.

Speaker 2 And he's taller than you'd think, too.

Speaker 1 I think it's just because he's around all these tall guys.

Speaker 6 He did play. He was like a full football player, right?

Speaker 4 Yeah, he was a college football player.

Speaker 1 Man, he's a good guy.

Speaker 2 What's your relationship with Andy?

Speaker 4 I mean,

Speaker 4 in what way?

Speaker 4 I don't like have overlooked.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 Secret lovers.

Speaker 1 I mean, I'm a huge fan fan of him.

Speaker 4 I mean, I got to meet him a long time ago. I was on Watch What Happens Live for the first time when I was the bachelor, which was really a cool moment.
And so, like, you know, I'm a big fan of his.

Speaker 4 I look up to him as someone who's very good at his job, like doing what we do here. But, like, when we see each other, he says hi.
But that's, you know, that's the extent of our relationship.

Speaker 4 I wish we were best friends, but that's, you know, hasn't happened.

Speaker 2 I know. I want to get stoned with him and Sarah Jessica Parker and Amy Sedaris.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 2 Up in his

Speaker 2 couch room that we saw. But he is so good at his job.
And I wish he was more in the conversation when people talk about late-night talk show hosts and stuff. It's annoying.
He's not.

Speaker 1 He is so good.

Speaker 6 He's the closest thing we have to Deborah Vance in real life.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Oh, I haven't watched the new season.

Speaker 2 It's really good.

Speaker 1 I can't wait. It's really good.

Speaker 2 You've already talked about

Speaker 2 Walton Goggins and Amy Lou and the Instagram stuff.

Speaker 5 Do you have more knowledge?

Speaker 2 No, I was going to ask you guys for Inside Scoop. What do you guys think it is? It's like the one thing I'm like so obsessed with.

Speaker 6 I want to know i just want to know what i think he i think he's got a wife i think he's got a wife and i think uh his wife was just like i think she did something or that irritated her and boundaries or some sort of line was crossed i think yeah my personal belief is there's like there's an onset world for their relationship and then maybe once that ends then the communication ends is my theory.

Speaker 1 I said I don't know anything.

Speaker 1 Allegedly, somebody on Walton's side blocked blocked Amy because her comments no longer show up under his photos. They're not following each other.

Speaker 1 And the tags, she's not tagged in any photo, but he's tagged every cast member in like a 20-carousel slide.

Speaker 6 With Silver Springs by Fleetwood Mac in the background.

Speaker 1 Okay. There's a lot of stuff.

Speaker 2 I just wanted to ask. I just, yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I wish you knew some because like, yeah, we don't know any more than anyone else.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 2 No, I just want an audition for season four. That's what everyone everyone wants.

Speaker 1 Let's put it out there right now. Yeah.

Speaker 4 You have your special out Night Owl streaming now on Netflix. It's hilarious.
It's a lot of fun. Everyone should check it out.
Can you plug anything else that you want to put out there?

Speaker 2 Thank you.

Speaker 2 I have a podcast, That's Messed Up, an SVU podcast, and we recap SVU. We deep dive into the true crimes and we interview the actors.

Speaker 1 Love.

Speaker 2 Loved SVU. Yeah, every Tuesday.

Speaker 2 So yeah, that's what I have. I'm on season two of survival of the thickest as well

Speaker 2 out and about and i'm glitter cheese on the internet if i've ever fought with you in the comments

Speaker 4 thank thank you for uh for trolling in ours uh we appreciate it you know

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Speaker 4 not that we're shocked but lisa a ton of fun uh love her uh we need to we need to get her back on uh more and more especially as uh bravo continues yeah she was so much fun i was like dying of laughter did you guys experience an earthquake when you were we were there yeah yeah that was um justin got an alert on his phone and then my phone is always very delayed.

Speaker 8 And I got it late after the earthquake had already happened.

Speaker 5 And not to Bragg, but my phone always gets it the earliest. No matter who I'm with, I always get it.

Speaker 4 Is that because like other areas are having earthquakes and they send out an alert or something?

Speaker 5 Yeah, it's not near us. I looked it up, but we all swore we felt it.

Speaker 1 San Diego. Yeah.

Speaker 8 You know what is interesting, though, yesterday, because it was really, really hot.

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Speaker 4 with that uh predictability Leo maybe you should buy a lottery ticket I did actually

Speaker 1 look I won did you or

Speaker 4 I did yeah Leo you need to go on a million dollar secret there you go yeah with that with that with that intuition maybe do you think you can compete with Cara no I think her

Speaker 8 um her acting that quickly and saying that she only had one sister, I would never think that bad.

Speaker 4 You should lie. You should not tell a single truth about your background.
The only thing that you have to be careful about is like getting caught in the lie. That's the only thing that you have to

Speaker 7 keep track of your lies.

Speaker 1 You have to keep track of your lies.

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Speaker 4 cara congratulations on winning the million dollars So excited.

Speaker 7 Thank you so much. Thank you.
It's so awesome being here.

Speaker 1 Have you gotten your money yet? I know Gabby, Wendy, winner of Traders, was bitching about not getting her money immediately.

Speaker 7 I hear it's on the way from the bank. Love that.
So I am waiting. Yes.

Speaker 1 Those interests.

Speaker 4 These usually come fast, right?

Speaker 4 Wires. I don't know.

Speaker 7 I don't know. It was the first time for me.

Speaker 4 What a cool show. We were actually, we were interviewing.
Jordan Davis, country music star, last week. And he was like, we're like, what are you watching?

Speaker 4 And he's like, I'm super in to the million dollar secret. We're like, like, what is this? He's like, it sounds a lot like Traders.
And we spent all weekend binging it.

Speaker 4 We're like, we need to get Car on the show. She won.
I'm like, what?

Speaker 4 So thanks for coming on such short notice. We're so excited to have you.

Speaker 7 No, thank you. I'm so happy you guys got to watch.

Speaker 1 And I hope you enjoyed it. Yes, it was so good.
What was the experience like for you?

Speaker 7 Oh, it was incredible. Just the fact that I got the opportunity to be on a show.
I'm such a fan of games. And when this came literally magically into my lap, I was like, of course I'm doing it.

Speaker 7 There's just no way I can't. And then when I figured out I was really good at playing, that it was really awesome.
And then, yeah, now we're here.

Speaker 4 How did you get on the show in the first place?

Speaker 7 I actually did a game show like 10 years ago. And I had this contact and we.
She just always like would message me.

Speaker 7 Like, I think the last time was like four years ago, asking if I was interested in a dating show. I was like, oh, no, sorry, I'm married.

Speaker 7 And then that was the last I heard from her until she just randomly texted me the info about this show. And she's like, hey, I have an opportunity.
Would you be willing to do it?

Speaker 7 And it was something I had been praying for a week before. I had just sent an audition tape for Big Brother.
So I was like finally putting myself out there.

Speaker 7 And then all of a sudden I get this text and I just couldn't believe it. I'm like, yeah, of course I wouldn't do it.
Like, let's go.

Speaker 4 That, that's incredible. And did you have any idea?

Speaker 4 Like, I mean, like, I know you mentioned, because it sounds like you got asked to maybe do some like, you know, relationship or dating, you know, type shows. And like you said, you were married.

Speaker 4 But like, how much about the show did you know before you said yes?

Speaker 7 Nothing really. It was a game about lies being deceptive and a million dollars.

Speaker 7 I was like, okay, well, I can't lie and I feel like I'd be a really good person and I can't be deceitful, but the million dollars, like sign me up.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to lie, while I was watching, I was like, oh, maybe this is a show I could do because it's not like super physical.

Speaker 1 And then when it was the running with the dogs as I kept them out, that's where I get injured.

Speaker 7 And that's me too. I am so clumsy and I fall all the time.
And what you didn't see is I cut open both my legs on that first episode. Yes.
And I'm like, no, this is so something I would do.

Speaker 7 And now I can't look weak. Otherwise, they're going to vote me out.
And I joked with the medics and I was like, well, this could be a million-dollar scar. And yeah, now it is.

Speaker 1 And if you get continue to get hurt, it's going to be like, so it's a secret agenda.

Speaker 7 Exactly. Exactly.

Speaker 4 It seemed like a lot of your peers underestimated you early. You know, maybe that was the edit.
I don't know, but you were pretty quiet, you know, the first couple episodes watching it back.

Speaker 4 Did you feel like that was more like an edit and just like them kind of telling a story?

Speaker 4 Or was that going on in reality where it seemed like your peers were just kind of like not noticing you and you were kind of flying under the radar?

Speaker 7 It was a little of both because watching these games growing up, you can come out and you can say exactly what's on your mind and that doesn't always work out.

Speaker 7 So when I first realized it was Phil, I could go and tell everybody, but if nobody else is thinking him, it just puts a target on my back.

Speaker 7 So I just really went into there knowing that I need to play this game carefully. And I did call shots.
I also was building a whole alliance with people.

Speaker 7 I had an alliance with almost every single person on that show.

Speaker 7 And that was me behind the scenes doing that work and figuring out how they lie as a person and who can I really trust to get to the end with. So I was still working behind the scenes.

Speaker 7 It just wasn't vocally announced.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but you were so on your game too. Like when Sam asked you about the siblings and you like knew to say one, like how did you know to say one?

Speaker 7 I actually really terrified the producers with that one. It was a whole thing.
So when I had opened my box that morning, I put on my cross and I knew I was getting the money.

Speaker 7 I just, when I tell you guys, my intuition is wild, it is. And now people understand, but I just knew I was getting the money.
And when I had opened the box, I said, I knew it.

Speaker 7 And then now I took a second to myself. I said, okay, someone's getting a clue about me.
What is it going to be?

Speaker 7 And the first two things that popped in my head was my middle name is Lydia and there's Lydia on the show. So someone could be asking me about that.
Or my sisters. And I have brothers too.

Speaker 7 And that didn't come to my mind. It was about my sisters.
And I was like, it's going to be about my sisters. And Sam was the first person I actually spoke to when I got out of the room.

Speaker 7 I know how editing works, but she was the first one I talked to. And when she asked me that, I know it shows a pause, but if you watch it at like the end of the episode eight, it shows no pause.

Speaker 7 And I had no pause. When I had answered her, I said said one.
Yeah. And I'm looking behind her at the producers and they're like looking at each other.
Like, and it's confusing me.

Speaker 1 I'm like, oh, shoot, did I mess up?

Speaker 7 Like, I don't know what happened. And we cut and Sam goes and talks to the rest of the contestants.
And I go to do interviews. And the producer almost fell to the floor.

Speaker 7 She's like, I thought you said you had two sisters when you entered this. I was like, I do.

Speaker 7 I was like, this is a game. I'm supposed to be lying.
Right. She was like on her mic, like, I'm not getting fired.
We did the right research. She does have two sisters.

Speaker 1 Like, all That's a whole thing.

Speaker 4 Well, then that tells me that they are almost like trying to set you up in a way to almost kind of get you kicked off. Did it feel like that?

Speaker 7 Because that's a game.

Speaker 7 No, the thing is with these games is that they had to pick these agendas, these clues months before we got there. And they actually picked out of a hat who was getting the money.
all randomly.

Speaker 7 They have lawyers there. It's all on camera.
Nothing is set up for certain people. Or yeah, I didn't get an easy clue.

Speaker 1 I didn't get any of those things, and it is supposed to set up because it is the, she's, she was the millionaire, so the clue is supposed to relate to you, but you are so clever.

Speaker 1 And then your intuition kicking off with the trading of the boxes, like chills, yes, full body chills. Thank you.

Speaker 4 Did you like at the end? What was your confidence level that the million dollars was in your box?

Speaker 7 Deep down, I felt like it was, but then you always have those what-ifs that creep in.

Speaker 7 And I knew if I was this entire show, if I had the what-ifs creeps in then I'm gonna go home that's just how it works you have to be confident you have to know that that money's in that box you're going home with it so as much as I I thought a little bit it could happen I was like no it's mine I'm taking this home what was harder the secret agendas or the challenges oh that's a great question I for me the challenges like if I wanted to win I could try but I didn't want to be like the quiet one that also wins and draw a target on my bag.

Speaker 7 But also the agendas could get you in trouble.

Speaker 7 If you go in and to the trophy room and you get a clue or you get anything like that, I realized from the start because I was in there on the first challenge and it wasn't all butterflies and rainbows.

Speaker 7 Like people were mad that people were saying different people's names in the trophy room. So I realized I don't really want to be in there.
It's not,

Speaker 6 other people really want to be in there.

Speaker 7 I didn't.

Speaker 1 Did you clock anybody's secret agenda before you knew that it was like a secret?

Speaker 7 Did you, you know, like Lauren being like, oh, Crimea River, were you like, that's definitely something but didn't say anything uh sydney's a hundred percent the falling what was her as soon as that girl walked yes for her immunity as soon as she walked out of that room and she did this fall down the stairs i was like girl what was that come on like we got to sign you up for some acting lessons or something because that was really really bad and then it got me thinking i was like oh she got immunity right in my head yeah definitely wasn't good acting like the way that she was falling.

Speaker 1 It's kind of the fake fault. I guess.

Speaker 1 Because you don't really want to hurt yourself. But yeah, the way that she was falling was fair.
I mean, I think Sam called it, but her being like, she, she cleared both of those steps and then fell.

Speaker 4 Who do you think made like in your mind, if maybe, and maybe you didn't even notice, but was there a point where someone like really made a mistake and you thought, wow, what a like, I wouldn't have done that.

Speaker 7 I think it was Phil with his scream.

Speaker 7 oh the scream i was gonna say phil for a different reason but yeah tell me more i think he waited a little bit too long to complete it because we're only given a specific amount of time and then it's done like you ran out of time and i think maybe he could have taken the direction of they won the challenge so he could have like been screaming with his partners that he won or he could have scared the girls and said that there was a bug in their hair i think he could have done a different route yeah instead he had the whole house hear him screaming yeah Yeah, because everyone's involved at that point.

Speaker 4 But it's funny.

Speaker 4 It's interesting that you say that, but I honestly thought his bigger mistake was when he made the mistake before by not changing his vote during like the elimination, you know, when they had to revote between, I think it was

Speaker 7 Lauren and Sid.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 7 Yes, that's another big one.

Speaker 4 Yeah, because like at that point, and they said like the millionaire will have the deciding vote.

Speaker 4 And one, one thing you learn pretty quickly watching the show is that like if you're the millionaire, you know, just information about you can obviously be used against you, especially if you're the millionaire.

Speaker 4 And like, and so here they are saying that the millionaire will be the deciding vote. It was already a tie.

Speaker 4 The last thing you want is to be the deciding vote so they can do the very thing they did to Phil, which is be like, all right, well, who was the person who voted?

Speaker 4 So he should have immediately changed his vote. So like eliminating any chance that there'll be a tie.

Speaker 4 And then I don't even think that other thing happens, you know, maybe, because like the first time he spent, you know, prior to that, he didn't do that, like, right. He didn't do the challenge.

Speaker 4 And going into that one, he completely fell out of the radar. I mean, like, that was the vote where everyone was like, hey, we're not going to get the millionaire.

Speaker 4 So let's just like kick out someone that we like we think is a threat. And he went from like opting out of the secret challenge to kind of being forced to almost do it, it seemed like.

Speaker 4 But yeah, I was curious what you thought.

Speaker 7 No, yeah, that's a good one, too.

Speaker 1 What did you think of Sae Young's emotional response to the where were you sitting at breakfast question?

Speaker 7 I felt so bad for her because what you didn't see on camera was she actually came in that morning for breakfast and she was telling us that she was really upset last night and she almost went home because of how much she misses her kid and her partner.

Speaker 7 And it was just getting a lot for her. And so she was already in an emotional state.

Speaker 7 And coming to the dinner or the breakfast and being asked those questions where her mind just wasn't even focused on gameplay and then she got hit of not being prepared with gameplay i was just i felt really bad for her because i could understand where she was coming from and it makes a lot more sense like the random tears because i i was

Speaker 4 like when you have a kid i don't i don't know do you have any kids i don't you don't yeah but like i couldn't imagine what it'd be like to

Speaker 1 I don't know what else. How long were you filming for really quick?

Speaker 7 Three weeks.

Speaker 1 And you have no phones, right?

Speaker 7 No phones, no communication, nothing.

Speaker 4 But yeah, it would be very difficult for anyone to like leave their child for that period of time. So I empathize with any child, especially any mom that had to leave their kid.

Speaker 4 And not knowing that context makes a ton of sense why she was hyper-emotional.

Speaker 7 Yes, she didn't just come out with tears.

Speaker 4 You, I think, famously now work at In-N-Out. Is that accurate? You still work there? You did work there?

Speaker 7 I do work at In-N-Out. I'm not a lying burger flipper.
I definitely work at In-N-Out.

Speaker 1 Is that your job now?

Speaker 7 I just quit.

Speaker 1 Congrats.

Speaker 7 Yes, I came back from the show still flipping burgers. No one knew.

Speaker 1 What did your co-workers, did they know that you were on the show when you came back, that you'd won a million dollars?

Speaker 7 No, no one knew. I left.
It was really funny. I was there the day the trailer came out.
And so everybody was watching it and then walking in like, um, Carv,

Speaker 1 are you going to

Speaker 1 tell us something or what?

Speaker 7 Yeah, so it was really funny.

Speaker 1 How long did you work for?

Speaker 7 Almost eight years. Wow.

Speaker 7 I'm a certified burger flipper.

Speaker 1 Wow. So you're a fan of in-and-ounce french fries?

Speaker 7 They are the cleanest on the market.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.

Speaker 7 I don't love. Yes, they are very, everything there is very clean and high quality for sure.

Speaker 1 Well, now that you don't work there anymore, are you going to spend time cooking other foods?

Speaker 7 Oh, goodness. I'm

Speaker 7 getting trouble for that one. I know.
I genuinely do want to cook anything but burgers and fries. I don't don't know why that was so suspicious, but yes.

Speaker 1 I know that, like, I feel like in-and-out trends on TikTok go very viral. You know, whatever the Kylie Jenner is eating.

Speaker 1 How like frustrating, or was it frustrating at all for people to come in and order these like crazy off-menu secret menu things?

Speaker 7 Yes. We're actually not supposed to say no to the customer.

Speaker 7 But that was the thing with my burger is it's not something you can order.

Speaker 7 And so when people want me to tell them what it is, I'm like, no because like if i took your order i'd be really frustrated and we can't say no to you so yes it's definitely it's like oh my goodness what's your order

Speaker 7 i'll tell you off camera

Speaker 7 what's one thing you'll never miss about working there oh my gosh my hands hurting because i cook for hours on end and it's like such a repetitive motion so i'm excited to and how'd you get into working there in the first place

Speaker 7 uh my husband works there as well but that's not how we met or anything but yeah we had family friends and we just love it it's it's a fun

Speaker 1 is he still working there he he does he is still a manager there and yes amazing i know that you're planning on helping your family and you have a lot of plans for this money but like what's the like extrenuous thing that you want to do with this million dollars?

Speaker 7 Really, honestly, I haven't even thought that far.

Speaker 6 I just want to make sure.

Speaker 1 I can purchase

Speaker 7 No, I'm not. Everything's from Shein that I buy.
So

Speaker 7 all the clothes on the show are from Shein. I just, I think just wanting to make sure my family's okay.
And then my husband and I want to start a family hopefully in the future soon. Yeah.

Speaker 7 So just moving closer to my parents and

Speaker 1 awesome.

Speaker 1 I'm like buying an island now.

Speaker 4 Have you been able to keep in touch with any of your friends from the show and specifically the finalist um

Speaker 7 obviously you guys were close have there been any um you know reaching out being like hey i'll take like half of that or anyone trying to like guilt you into splitting the money or or anything like that we had there was a ton of legal stuff before we even got on the show that we could not do that okay we had to sign things yeah so that is not in it but uh we all still keep in contact we have a group message that we all still talk in and then of course corey and sam are the ones i talk to the most

Speaker 1 Do they ever like ask you a question and be like, is that the truth?

Speaker 7 Yeah, they're definitely still salty sometimes.

Speaker 2 They're like, well, Cara can pay.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but they joke around. Can you

Speaker 4 explain to me? Cause like, especially early on, like Lauren, right? Early, Lauren was the first millionaire, you know, from the Midwest, very sweet. She, she struggled with the lying.

Speaker 4 I definitely think it was a huge mistake by admitting that she was a millionaire. That being said, why was everyone so angry at her for admitting to it? And then, like, you know, but you lied to us.

Speaker 4 And, like, she was the millionaire. It's just like, were people like leaning into that? Like, why were people getting so upset with people lying? Because, like, we, we know why you're lying.

Speaker 4 Like, this isn't a show about character.

Speaker 4 This is a show about like, if you're given a free pass, if you're told that like lying and manipulation is okay in the, in this world, like, you're, you're going to do it.

Speaker 4 And then, like, it seemed to get used against people when everyone was playing the same game. Like, what was your read on that?

Speaker 7 Yes, I thought that was really funny. Honestly, I would go back into my confessionals.
I'm like,

Speaker 7 is that not the same game that I'm playing here? Because we are, you're lying, like, but that's the game. So, how are you getting mad at her?

Speaker 7 And then, another thing, too, is when they said they wanted to vote the millionaire off, but then they want to vote Lauren off. I'm like, you can't, which one is it?

Speaker 7 You got to pick, you know, you can't go back and forth. So, yes, it was actually really funny.
I was confused.

Speaker 4 Is there anyone there in your mind that felt like kind of got screwed over with their exit?

Speaker 7 What do you mean?

Speaker 1 Like, I don't know.

Speaker 4 I just think like, you know, some exits that maybe were just more like, oh, like maybe their clue was,

Speaker 4 you know, it just felt like they just had some bad luck. Like it was more bad luck rather than a bad decision.

Speaker 4 Like I felt like Phil made a Phil got himself kicked out because I think he had some poor game playing where I felt like other people, it was just more bad luck.

Speaker 1 What about poor Harry in the beginning? Oh, yeah. yeah, he just wanted to pray over

Speaker 1 lunch, and they were like secret agenda.

Speaker 7 I know, he was like the sacrificial lamb, right? Literally, rest in peace, Harry.

Speaker 1 I thought,

Speaker 4 I'm sorry, a group prayer, like in a room where you're supposed to not stand out or do anything odd when everyone knows that people have these secret missions.

Speaker 4 And the first thing he does is like, let's all hold hands and pray.

Speaker 1 It's like, huh? What were you doing? So sad. What are you doing?

Speaker 7 That's just Harry, though.

Speaker 7 Harry sent us all pineapples just a couple of days ago from Hawaii.

Speaker 1 It's just Harry.

Speaker 7 He's so sweet. I don't think he's.

Speaker 1 He got punished for being a sweet guy.

Speaker 7 Yeah, what games he's come to play.

Speaker 1 Do you know if Sydney and Chris are like

Speaker 1 hanging out? Wasn't that a little bit of their storyline that maybe they were into each other?

Speaker 7 They're great friends for sure.

Speaker 7 They do still hang out.

Speaker 7 Sydney had Jamie and Kyle and Chris come hang out with her in Arizona. So they are still really close.

Speaker 7 But I think they're just friends.

Speaker 4 No showmances?

Speaker 7 No show mances at all.

Speaker 1 Okay. Does Chris know that? Well,

Speaker 1 I'm just kidding.

Speaker 7 No, he admires Sid.

Speaker 4 I'm sure you've been asked, like, what's the thing that, I mean, you're not going to buy any purses or anything like that, but is there something that like, I don't know, I guess what did this winning this money mean to you?

Speaker 7 Oh, it just meant so much because it wasn't just for me. It was for my whole family.
And it's just to make sure that everybody's okay.

Speaker 7 You know, that's, that's, I think what we all want in life is that our family is going to be okay. And we just have always been hit left and right growing up, one thing after another.

Speaker 7 So now finally, like, ooh, we can see the bright side.

Speaker 2 It's, it's awesome.

Speaker 1 How is your dad doing today?

Speaker 7 Oh, he's doing really well. He's in remission.
And yeah, he balled his eyes out. And he just, he's like, I knew you could do it.
I had no doubt. And it was really, really sweet.

Speaker 4 That's so cool. Who did you watch? Did you like, how fast did you binge it? Or did you try to like

Speaker 4 pace it out? And who did you watch it with?

Speaker 7 Yeah, we watched at the same time the world did. And luckily, I had my family.

Speaker 7 My husband and I watched it at midnight. And then the day of my sister and her family threw a party for me, which is really sweet.

Speaker 1 That's so fun.

Speaker 1 You seem like you have such a good.

Speaker 1 like group of people around you, like really supportive, very much there for you, a good family, good friends. And it's really beautiful to see.

Speaker 7 Thank you. I know I count my blessings every day.

Speaker 4 You honestly felt like the perfect person to win this prize, like with your background. And it was kind of fascinating, too, because early on, Sam, she's the cop.
And then you had,

Speaker 4 her name escapes me, the poker player.

Speaker 1 Lydia. Lydia.
Lydia.

Speaker 4 Yeah. And there seemed to be a lot of people they casted based off of their professions, giving them some kind of like.

Speaker 4 angle into like reading people, manipulating people, yada, yada. And then, you know, as you're like, I work at In-N-Out.

Speaker 4 and you know it's like there's nothing specific about your background that would give you like well watch out for her and yet you were like the deadliest in the best possible way like player there like what does that did that give it an extra kind of excitement like and did you even realize that going in Because like as when they're, when they're airing it, they're make it seem like everyone was casted based off of this sophisticated background and here you are, just like this very innocent, very sweet person who's like, what is Cara doing here?

Speaker 4 You know, and then you end up blaming the whole thing.

Speaker 7 I think they were shocked too, because they didn't realize that I was such a big fan of games. And when I got in there, I surprised myself.
I was like, wow, I could really do this.

Speaker 7 Like, this is something I've studied. And I am just this quiet person naturally, but I can make other game moves to get me to the end.
And yeah, it was. I'm just a burger flipper.

Speaker 7 And, you know, I'm talking lying against a cop here who would have thought.

Speaker 1 Who's in your Mount Rushmore of game players?

Speaker 7 Oh, goodness, so many people.

Speaker 7 There's just like, oh, there's so many good game players, but Sari,

Speaker 7 Poverty, Boston Rob,

Speaker 7 those are some good ones, but I definitely have a list. Tyson, those are good.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Maybe now that you're the winner of this show, maybe we can get you on Traders next.

Speaker 7 I would love that.

Speaker 7 That would be so much fun. I definitely have a different gameplay going into it,

Speaker 4 but I don't always trust Vladimir.

Speaker 7 I know, but that's okay. We can weasel our way out somehow.

Speaker 1 What was something like during this experience outside of winning that you were like shocked that you were able to accomplish? Like looking back and you're like, wow, I did that.

Speaker 7 Oh my gosh, just being on the show. Yeah.
Yes. Because I just never really put myself out there.
And I'm the type of person that just does things for everybody else, but myself.

Speaker 7 And so finally making that decision, my husband gave me the big push. He's like, listen, you're always going to do things for everybody else.

Speaker 7 And I need you to take this moment before we have kids and you need to do the dang thing and just put yourself out there. You never know.
And that's, I put myself out there with the big brother video.

Speaker 7 And then a week later, I got a text from for this show.

Speaker 1 And now you're a millionaire.

Speaker 7 It did work out. And it's just, it's still so crazy.
I feel like I'm dreaming.

Speaker 1 That's incredible. Congratulations.

Speaker 7 Thank you so much. I appreciate it.

Speaker 4 No, it's such a, it's such a heartwarming story. It was such a fun show.
I'm excited. Thanks to Jordan Davis for giving us the

Speaker 4 scoop on on this show. But it was really fun watching you, Cara.
Congratulations. We love an underdog story.
You definitely were like a silent assassin. It was like, you played a flawless game.

Speaker 4 It was so exciting

Speaker 4 and so, you know, just cool to see you win.

Speaker 7 Thank you. I really appreciate it.

Speaker 5 I am curious real fast before we let you go because you watched Big Brother.

Speaker 5 Are you following the whole Mickey Rourke and judge of it all?

Speaker 7 A little bit. I saw a couple of things online that I didn't know she was going on the UK celebrity Big Brother.
That was news to me.

Speaker 4 I did. She texted me and told me when she was going, but then

Speaker 4 she's really made a splash.

Speaker 5 Well, some would say Mickey Rourke also made a splash and now he's gone. So yeah,

Speaker 1 are we shocked? Like a man, a British white man who's like 70. Oh, well, are we shocked? This is like the way he's behaving.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, he doesn't excuse it, but it definitely is like not shocking to me.

Speaker 8 I do have one question for you.

Speaker 8 In the show, you mentioned

Speaker 8 he asked you to lie to him and you said, I was never arrested.

Speaker 7 Thanks for asking this question.

Speaker 7 I've never been arrested. Oh my goodness.
Thank goodness he gave me a practice one because there you go. I'm not a liar in real life.
I actually really struggle with that.

Speaker 7 And so when he had asked me that and that came out of my mouth, instead of saying, I've been arrested, I said, I've never been arrested.

Speaker 7 And as soon as it left my mouth and he left the room, I was like, wait, did I just tell him I've been arrested?

Speaker 7 And I was like, No, they won't show it because I haven't been arrested. And then they show it.

Speaker 1 I'm like, I've never been arrested, I swear.

Speaker 1 Your family's like, Wait a second, what's going on here?

Speaker 7 Everybody looked at me like, You got something to tell me?

Speaker 1 No, I didn't.

Speaker 7 But that was my first like lie, and I completely messed it up. So at least I got practice before heading out.

Speaker 1 Was it actually a lie? Because you told the truth.

Speaker 7 I wait, no, I've never been arrested. That is the truth.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 So he was asking me to lie, and I don't know why in my head, I forgot the never. It's okay.

Speaker 1 Lying just doesn't come naturally. Exactly, exactly.
I really struggle with it. But if you put a million dollars in.

Speaker 4 I don't think that's why you screwed up, though.

Speaker 4 I get it.

Speaker 7 They should have put like a little spoiler at the bottom. Like, Cara has never been arrested.

Speaker 1 Asterisks.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 4 Oh, well, thank you for clearing that up, Leia. It was a great follow-up question.
So we don't think our girl is a convicted criminal or felon.

Speaker 4 Cara, thanks again for coming on and congratulations. It's such a amazing win.

Speaker 7 Thank you so much. I really, really appreciate you guys for having me.

Speaker 4 Well, we appreciate you coming on. And thank you guys for listening.
Thank you to our guest, Cara and Lisa Traeger. Check out her new special, Night Owl Out on Netflix.
Also, stay on Netflix.

Speaker 4 And if you haven't watched Million Dollar Secret, spoiler alert, Cara wins. But it's a fun show.

Speaker 4 And be sure to check it out. We will be back on Thursday.
See you then. Bye.