Nick Lachey’s Bengals Love, Chargers Ejection & USC tryout... Plus: Sports’ Unbreakable Records

I actually went to the league office and met with the vice president of operations on behalf of Bengal fans and said, whoa, what's happening to the Bengals fan base is an absolute travesty. We've supported this team sell out year after year after year, and the ownership's not doing anything.
And that's when it kind of turned around. So you're the reason, you know, I don't I'm gonna episode of Throwbacks, everyone.
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I could even remember that one. Matt, it's good to be here, man.
Welcome back to the best coast, bro. You know what I love? Like, in Ohio, the weather was just starting to break and we're starting to get some nice days it snowed the day i left did it oh yeah i was just texting brie like haha it's probably it's beach season here in california already it's like yeah it's been the whole week has been super nice i forget and every time i get here i'm just like this really is the best weather when you when you touch down in la don't you just miss it right it just gives you a little tingle you know what now since i'm a few years, I miss it, and I immediately get thrown back to the time when I moved here.
I remember stepping off the plane in LAX, getting onto a super shuttle, and going to my first apartment in Burbank, and I get thrown into that. Was that with Max? That was your apartment? No, no, no.
Max came in the picture like a year in. A year in.
Well, it's good to have you out here, man. Got a big week.
Big week. Big guest today.
Big guest. You have a very eclectic group of friends, I must say.
I do. And when you proposed this guest, I was like, how do you know him? And he's like, that's one of my good buddies.
Nick Lachey, everybody, from 98 Degrees, from Love is Blind, which is an absolute monster show. He stole all those ladies' hearts about 20 years ago.
And he never gave them back. And he never gave them back.
And now he's stealing hearts on, as, he's like the, the it reality TV show host now. Him and his wife, Vanessa.
Which has like, gotta be the greatest thing of all time. Well, that's what I can't wait to talk to him about, because it just does seem like a great gig.
I always look at stuff like that, like, what's the work life love the product people love the show and watch love is blind and all those shows but then i always try to see like what's the workflow the production are you enjoying it and it does look pretty pretty light awesome location pretty light gets to work with his wife and they get along well and it doesn't seem like they're not in the whole episode like for an hour they they pop in well love is blind yeah i actually want to ask was love is blind it's like they're big the big part of that for them is the reunion at the end which is just you watch the whole season unfold and then you get to talk about are these couples gonna make it or not but he's yeah he we gosh man we go way back definitely want to tell the story of how we met which is pretty funny funny. And then, yeah, I mean.
And big sports guy. Big sports guy.
Big, Cincy guy. Gosh, we've been to multiple Super Bowls together.
He sang at my wedding, which is actually a really cool story. That's how close we were.
I used to get made fun of all the time. Because we were boys when I was at the tail end of college.
So then when I went to the NFL, Nick was a big supporter, came out to Arizona all the time. But like all my boys were like, you know, the whole, like they loved him when they met him, but like the whole boy band, like perception, I'm like, guys, like this dude is the coolest, the most guy guy you'll ever meet.
Lots of fun times together, man. Were you stressed when like you asked him to perform at your wedding? That's not like a small favor.
You're asking someone who sold millions of records. I wanted to ask him because the way, and I'll save it, but the way it was done was really, really emotional.
It was really special. It was a surprise for Josie, essentially, is how I did it.
Okay. He did sing at our first dance,

but there was another part of the wedding that I surprised my wife with,

with Nick singing.

And we can get into it,

but it was truly,

like, it meant a lot to me.

And he knew that.

And when I asked him,

I think it was just like,

he's like, dude, of course,

whatever you need me to do,

I'd be honored.

And like, it was cool.

I feel like him and I will get along well

because I do,

from all things I've heard,

whether from you, and I know other people who are friendly with Nick that he is a pretty big psycho sports fan it's not surface and anytime you see someone rocking like a Cincinnati Reds hat that's not for style purposes it's like being a Clipper fan if you're rocking the Cincinnati Reds starter satin jacket you are a real fan that is not a fashion choice even though it is a dope jacket now he's a big big sports fan he's usc fan bangles yeah he's he's awesome man he's and how i always knew like how i always separated boy bands i always be like oh that's the jack dude nick was i mean nick was a nick was i'm like that's the jack dude and i feel like i was cool with them because, oh, that's the dude. That's the Jack dude.
We can also ask him about his really cool sun tattoo that he has on his arm too. That was the butt of a lot of jokes.
Just a random sun tattoo. Yeah, it's like 98 degrees, bro.
You're tatless, right? I'm tatless. I've been debating getting a tat though.
What would you get? That's a good question. Because you could get like a high.
There's so many ways you can go. You can get your kids.
Here's the thing. If I had, like, a body to get a tat, I would.
Or, like, muscles, but I don't. But you're such a beach guy.
You can show them to get it on a leg. You got good legs.
You got good sticks. I got skinny legs, bro.
That's because you're tall. That's because you're tall.
Anyway, well, Nick's coming up in a second. So right now, we are going to get to...
We're going to get to... We're off off the rails already we're off the rails already fresh moves of the week brought to you by wendy's go to wendy's taste the difference i think this is a pretty easy fresh move for me we saw a pretty big record get broken recently yeah one that i really didn't think would ever get touched alex ovechkin breaks wayne gretzky's goal record gretzky was there i mean i really i still remember ovechkin when he was like a young player so now they think he's come this far it was pretty did you see like he's obviously one of the greatest to ever play did you see him after he's so he had a beer after his pads are off his he he's so gray yes he looked he looked i was like he looked like a mechanic or like a construction worker.
Like he just got off, he's sweating. A longshoreman.
And I'm like, this dude has literally just broke the great one's goal record. And gosh, I mean, top five of all time.
Oh, he's definitely the greatest. I mean, like I was dying laughing because I'm like this dude and then like afterward, he's just like, I think he went out and had a party.
Like, it's just kind of cool, man. Well, brought up some interesting topics and thoughts in my head.
That was one of the records that I even remember being younger saying that one will probably never get touched. And then you start thinking about some of these records because obviously the games have changed so much.
We saw LeBron broke Kareem's record. So a lot of these records that we thought, like our childhood's kind of getting shattered a little bit.
It was always Kareem. It was always Gretzky.
It was always these records. But there's got to be some.
There's a lot, man. All right.
Let's throw a few that we think won't be broken. Won't be broken.
All right. Do you want to go first? Do you want me to go? Well, I just pulled it out.
I mean, this one we didn't even talk about. Ricky Henderson's stolen bases.
Never going to be touched. Over 1,400 stolen bases.
Never going to be touched. Rest in peace, by the way, to Ricky Henderson.
I got a chance to meet him at an autograph signing for the Raiders, but he was there. It was like, Mark, it was a couple of Raiders.
I played for the Raiders one year, but I was a Raider. But Ricky was there.
He was awesome. And I actually got his rookie card signed by him.
The Ricky Henderson stories were amazing. Anyway, yeah, Ricky Henderson.
I got one for you that's never going to be touched, and it's baseball too. No one's ever touching Joe DiMaggio's 56-game history.
Really? Guys don't even bat 300 anymore. Your boy Aaron Judge bat like 340 last year.
The whole Yankees 1996 roster batted 300. You don't need to bat 300 to go one for four.
300 implies more hits. So it'll be less walks, strikeouts, and home runs and more hits.
Like you saw that thing, Rafael Devers in the first three games of the season struck out 15 times. Tony Gwynn one year struck out 15 times the whole year.
He's maybe the greatest hitter of all time. I mean, I think the one, I mean, Kyle Ripken's most consecutive games.
That's why I like LeBron playing 20 years. But like any longevity record.
Will Chamberlain has some stats that, and records that you can't even quantify because who knows how they kept him. Here's one also too, Masters starting literally any minute.
If you look right now, while you're listening to this, the Masters is probably underway. Jack Nicklaus, 18 majors.
We thought for a minute there, Tiger would have had a shot years ago he ain't gonna touch it most likely I don't see any other player that gets to 18 well I got one for you ready yeah Michael Phelps oh yeah I don't know I think Simone Biles too Simone no Michael Phelps has that could be touched you don't think so 28 Olympic medals you got to be in like four Olympics four olympics and then be in multiple events like what you're saying is you don't think anyone will ever do that in the history of the olympics again i'm not saying the odds are good but compared to like a cow ripkin streak that you just they won't even allow a player to play in that many i'm just saying i don't think anyone's gonna win 28 olympic gold or olympic i think simone b had 24 gold medals. Either way, shout outs to Mr.
Ovechkin. That's a great record.
Any other ones you want to name before we get to Mr. Lachey? I think Emmitt Smith, career rushing yards, a little over 18,000.
Again, because the game is now different. It's just different.
There's more games, which obviously could be a detriment for injury. But there's three back situations.
There's three backs. It's more of a passing sort of, you know, that one might not get.
There's a ton. I mean, records are made to get broken, but that's why, I mean, the Ovechkin.
Gosh, that's crazy. That might be the last big one that we see.
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How did you guys get, did you always know each other? How'd you guys get connected? Everyone says that. We speed dated on the phone.
But yeah, that's kind of how like Matt and I, when we decide, like when we were talking about doing a show and we had this like phone call speed date thing like hey do we want to do a show together, that's kind of how Matt and I, when we were talking about doing a show and we had this phone call speed date thing, like, hey, do we want to do a show together? And that's why it sort of became throwback because you go back to 03, 04, SC. I just got cast an entourage, 23-year-old kid.
I knew nothing about LA. We were running around in kind of similar places like we were at similar places.
But we never met.

But we never left formally like, hey, I'm Matt.

I'm Jerry.

Good to meet you.

Love you.

Never happened.

I only met Connelly, Kevin Connelly.

Yeah.

I used to run into him quite a bit.

That means you went to some nightclubs probably.

Well, we probably ran into him together.

Well, back in those days, he was with Nicky, right?

So we were all kind of like hanging together.

Yeah, it was a small group back then. And then, so then then when we were sinclair was talking to him about doing a show i was kind of talking about doing this other show and a couple of guys were like fuck why don't you guys do this together and we literally got on a phone last summer and we talked like we would when you talk to your first you know like on a first date for like an hour and a half does he facetime you all the time he's he's the worst i don't get this and do you facetime your friend no i don't and you think he'd get the you know get the hint i never pick up he continues to do it either dude so the other day i facetimed jerry i had something important to tell you though i fade him all and by the way i i did this i said i was with josie i go you know what dude i'm gonna facetime his wife and brie answered my wife and then you were there you were there he went over my head went around to the boss you know who this is super random you know who hates who makes fun of me more than anybody lane kiffin i will i random i will randomly facetime him just because he pisses no well he's my coach but he he gets so upset about it and well it's dangerous facetiming lane yeah you never know You never know where where lane's gonna be he could be on a boat somewhere so i don't know what he's doing um thanks for coming on man we appreciate you dude yeah but more importantly how do how i was like joking with matt when we did like an intro for you like matt has a really interesting group of friends like i said it's like lane kiffin it's nicholas how did how do you two kind of become friends well no we uh we first met i mean i was back in those days i was doing um i was doing newlyweds so i was on tv all the time huge sc fan i went to sc so i was always on tv in sc gear always you know watching the game and he'd obviously either seen it or heard about it so we happened to be at the same bar one night and and you know just got introduced and these dudes are like do you remember do you remember the name of the bar what's that do you remember the name of the bar it was guys guys yeah remember guys guys i do remember guys i feel like i got kicked out of guys for guys sunday night was like big jazz was it sunday i don't think it was a sunday night we were there but yeah i was with bra.
Shout out Braun as a mutual friend. And I remember we're sitting there and I was, gosh, I think I was 21.
I might've been 2021. And he goes, dude, the Shays over there.
And I tell the story, I've told him this. My high school girlfriend had a poster of them up in his room.
That's a big flex. I've since apologized.
I swear to God, I was like, I was like, so like, obviously I knew who Nick was, but who nick was but bron's like dude he's a huge sc fan you should go say what up and that was literally how we met i think i went up to him said dude huge fan and then i think we hung out like i think i came to your house back like we hung out and then it was just like we're boys ever since and back in those days man it was just the best at sc because you know you get on the sideline and it was just i mean they were unstoppable the the whole was just unstoppable it was awesome so it was so good so you you went to SC so then growing up though you didn't have any because I always go through this I don't have any college football affiliations like I grew up in New York City I didn't really go to college so I I love college sports I just don't have a team I'm like a guy without a country so did you have any like college fandom before or once you got to SC you were like this feels right? Yeah I mean growing up in Ohio I'm one of the few that's not an Ohio State fan. Right.
Everyone knows this. I just do not like Ohio State.
I'm a Cincinnati Bearcat fan. Yeah.
But anyone who's followed Bearcat football at all knows that they've been terrible for the majority of my life. So yeah I was more of a of a Bearcat basketball fan, SC football fan.
And then, obviously, when I went to school there, you know, then I really became a fan. But I was always kind of a closet, you know, SC fan, even back in the, you know, I remember, like, the Rodney Pete days.
Oh, yeah. And, yeah, it was when Notre Dame and SC were one and two, and he had those battles going on.

And so, yeah, I was always kind of a closet SC fan, but it didn't really kick fully in until I went there.

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You attempted. Tell us that story.
He attempted to walk on. You tried to walk on at USC? That's a credit to you.
Yeah. Walking on is a very loose term.
Anyone can walk on to the field. Did you put pads on? No, because it was the involuntary, voluntary spring practice where you're not even allowed to throw footballs yet.
You have to throw softballs. You're not even supposed to be practicing, but everyone's out there.
So I was a theater major. So every day on the way to dance class, I would pass the football team coming out of Heritage Hall.
Man, that looks cool. And then I'd go past them.
And so that was the year that Larry Smith got fired and John Robinson had just come out. So they brought John Robinson back.
There's a lot of hype. So one day, I'm passing the football team on the way to dance class.
And I said, hey, coach, you think I could play for you? And he said, are you fast? This sounds like Rudy. It's not like the opening of Rudy.
Keep in mind, I never played a down of organized football in my life. I went to a performing arts high school in Ohio.
Shout out to you. You need to be an athlete though.
I've literally never put pads on. I've never played football.
So I said, yeah, I'm pretty fast. He said, you can play in my backfield.
So I said, mom, you got to send me the cleats. I had one pair of cleats.
They were stark white, Joe Namath, Joe Namath, low cleats. She sends these to me and I said, I cannot go out there on the field like this, but I took the physical.
I did the whole thing. And then I went out there and Charles White, you know, legendary Heisman Trophy winner is the running back position coach.
And I have no idea what I'm doing. I'm out there in basketball shoes.
You can tell who the real guys are because they have team-issued stuff on. I'm out there in basketball shorts and a total scrub.
And Charles is just screaming at me, you are pathetic, you suck. I'm like, this is the greatest thing ever.
He's not wrong either, he's not wrong. I'm out there just soaking it off.
It was literally the only time I've ever played football. Did you have a dream to play football? You didn't play growing up so like what prompted you just like oh shit this could be pretty always wanted to play and my mom my mom said uh you can't play till high school so she said and i went to i started going to this performing arts school and then i just fell in love with that and didn't want to leave to go play football so yeah i mean clearly it was the right move for me what You know all the what ifs? What if you actually ended up playing?

Do you think that would have?

I would have been killed.

No, but like you played, you got kind of the bug.

Would that have changed your course of music?

You know, that's a good question, man.

I think a lot of the reason I felt confident enough to move from Cincinnati to L.A.

and start a band and do all this stuff is because I went to a performing arts school. Like they made you feel like, okay, you're, you know, you've got talent, you've got potential.
So if I hadn't done that, I'm not sure I ever would have like had the balls really to come out and do that. Funny thing.
I just thought I was, cause Matt did mention that you might've, and Matt just tells people like, oh, he tried to walk on at USC. Your story gives a lot more context away.
And the way i'm saying i'm skipping dance class every day the best part of that is i'm walking on my way to dance class and i asked the coach hey do you think i could play for you that one might get clipped for social but then so when i was just doing a little you know i know a lot about you obviously but i'm kind of it's funny like the shit wikipedia says but it does say about your bandmate Jeff who had like gave up his aspirations this is what it says on Wikipedia hold on

he but I'm kind of, it's funny like the shit Wikipedia says, but it does say about your bandmate Jeff who had like gave up his aspirations. This is what it says on Wikipedia.
Hold on. He planned on a career playing football in the NFL, but then in 95 he sang at a college party, three friends and got a positive reaction.
So the way Matt's, it's like, so Nick's pursuing college football. Jeff's wants to be, you guys just were like, you know, let's hang up this football thing and start a band.
If you didn't know the context of the story. You know what, we'd be in the Hall of Fame if we hadn't given it up for a boy band.
You know, I'm confident. You know what I want to ask you too, growing up in Cincinnati, because for me, with acting, growing up in Brooklyn, New York, no one I knew was in any performing arts, anything.
I'd go play pick up hoops in like theoolyard, and then I'd leave and lie and say, I got recruited by this other AAU team to play, and I'd take the train to the city to take acting class. Were you kind of black cat in Cincinnati doing that? Or do you have people and peers around you where it wasn't like, oh, Nick wants to be a singer or a performing arts major? What was that like? Well, the school that I went to is called the School for Creative and Performing Arts.
So literally, it was the cool thing to do at that school, right? So we didn't have sports, but like if you got the lead in the big fall musical, that was the equivalent of being like the starting quarterback, right? I mean, it was, that was what was cool in our school. So it was a great place.
If you were into the arts, it was a great place to go to school because every day you're just totally immersed in it yeah it is the cool thing to do you're getting you know you know better and better at it um so yeah it was it was not like in some schools you know it's like the nerdy glee club or what no that was like we were you know if you were had the lead in the in the big deal in the in the musical or if you had a solo in the song or what you know that was that's what you aspired to to do and to be so it was cool it was cool our uh so throwbacks to the thing and we always throw back to like nostalgic times and obviously 98 degrees in the boy band how did you guys because you guys all grew up in Ohio you and your brother were there obviously the other two how did you guys meet what was the first because I don't know if I know the story like hey let's just do this out of our garage or you know it was a guy it was a guy i went to school with he was a year ahead of me and he'd already moved out to la and he met jeff and uh and i don't know where just and we weren't like especially close even but i don't know where he just hit me up he said you should come out to la and join this this uh this band and i had since transferred from usc to miami ohio i was taping ankles i was was an athletic trainer. I'm like, this blows.
I'm in on your athletic career, bro. I'm in on all of it.
We can make a movie about this. I got as close.
I got as close. And I tell you this all the time.
The four coaches, I was the trainer for men's basketball, right? And we won a tournament game that year. We had a good team.
The four coaches were Herb Sendak, Sean Miller, who now just got hired got hired to texas yeah yeah um thad mata who's at butler used to be at ohio state and then charlie coles has since passed so there were four d1 head coaches on that on that one staff it was an awesome like little miami of ohio had an awesome little thing going but um anyway i wasn't super excited about taping ankles the rest of my life i um i had a potential internship with the bangals to like be on their athletic training, you know, staff or whatever. But then this guy calls me, he's like, Hey, there's this opportunity in LA.
You know, you should think about it. And I was like, you know what? My girlfriend and I had just broken up.
Wasn't crazy about school. Everything just kind of lined up.
So I took a chance and came out here and joined these guys. So they were already formed.
So Drew was already part of that. No.
So it was this,

it was Jeff,

just Jeff,

this guy,

John,

Jeff's brother,

Mike.

And then I was the fourth.

And within,

I'd say three days of me being here,

Mike quit.

So now I was here and one guy's already.

So yeah,

he was,

it literally took 48 hours.

I think he was like,

I'm done.

I can't do this.

And then,

uh,

so I said,

never going to work.

I got this great bass singer that was, I was in a band in Cincinnati at the time time. So I said, let me call my boy Justin.
So I brought Justin out. And then about four months later, this guy, John, who initially called me, got a bit part in Sweet Valley High.
You guys remember Sweet Valley High? Sweet Valley High. Sweet Valley High.
So he got a part in that. It was just a one-time guest role.

But he was convinced at that point that he needed to be an actor.

And so we kind of say, hey, man, we're all out here to do this band.

Like, either you're in or you're out.

We're not going to, like, if you get a gig, we're not just going to sit here.

And I was delivering Chinese food at the time.

I'm like, I'm not, you know, this is not my future.

So we actually, you know, he said, oh, I need to act.

And he left the group.

And that's when I brought my brother in, Drew.

You were delivering Chinese food?

Yeah, man.

Jesus, dude.

How many jobs did you have?

Walk fast.

You guys remember walk fast?

Dude, I was fired from every restaurant in the San Fernando Valley.

My first ever job was I was parking cars at South Coast Plaza.

I was valet.

My brother ran the – he knows my brother.

Actually, he's got a sense of my brother.

I've got it.

Yeah, my brother's crazy. So I was parking valet.et long story short it's christmas morning i kid you not south coast plaza is open i i fucking crash a ben's in a pole in an open parking lot i shit you not open parking i don't i just was like going it was like you know an open parking lot and they had like little things coming out and you kind of go around i just ran right christmas morning swear i can't i can't make this up i get back there i start crying dude and my buddy mike gazano i remember mike gazano like it was just us two there and i'm like mike my brother's gonna kill me i was like i was literally bawling he's like go i'll handle it i get home my brother comes home later in the day he's like you fucking idiot you're fucking he fired me my brother fired me from valet parking anyway have you ridden with me Crashed a car.
By the way, have you ridden with him? He hasn't gotten any better.

Stop.

You know, it tracks, like, the FaceTimes, and then, like, you know, I would label you not

a great driver, though.

That's a great mailbag question.

I always say, is it okay, one, for dudes to FaceTime other dudes?

But in general, is it just okay to FaceTime?

I think it's great.

You FaceTime, I'm sure you FaceTime your kids all the time. Wife and kids, sure.
Yeah, I mean, families, you know, your kids, obviously it's different than your boys. I don't know, I just don't FaceTime the guys.
How weird would that be if we like exchanged numbers? Hey, Jerry, go Bengals, we're texting in like just two days. I'm FaceTiming you.
It's less about Matt. It's like, who's Matt with? What's Matt doing right now? At what time is it exactly? I go on a heater when I'm drunk or drinking.
Exactly. That'll be like, I'll just start FaceTime and 20 people on my phone.
Let's see who's going to pick up now. And then I'll just hang up before saying bye.
All right. Okay.
Real quick. When did you guys first know was like, oh shit.
We're like, because that was NSYNC formed? Were they all formed at that time? No, Backstreet was. We actually drove.street was we actually actually we actually drove we had a gig to sing the national anthem at the Washington State Fair in Payala Washington so we drove 24 hours up I-5 to sing the national anthem at this fair and we get there and um we had a crazy we have a crazy story man like we went through some gnarly, gnarly stuff.

We sang backstage at a Boyz II Men concert to try and meet them.

Didn't meet them, but we met this girl.

She's like, hey, I think my dad might be able to help you guys out.

He's got a record label.

Coolest exchange numbers.

Next thing I know, we're pulling up in Compton, and it's Mike Concepcion.

I don't know if you're going to get Mike Concepcion to start of the Crips.

Yeah.

So all of a sudden, we're like four white guys in Compton,

and we're singing.

He's like, I'm going to sign you, boys.

Fill out these forms, social security numbers.

And I'm like, yeah, we got street cred.

Let's go.

Let's sign with this.

And the guy who called me, John, the guy who initially called me for the group,

was like, I'm not signing it.

I'm not doing it.

I'm not signing it.

And thank God.

Yeah, what happens if you all sign that deal? You know what? I have no clue right i mean i don't know how our our future would have been but it would have been it would have been so where'd you sing at when they so that was at a boys to men so so that was at a boys men concert and you just you know you sing around la we'd sing a taco bell for free tacos we'd sing it you know fat burger for singing for your supper we'd sing it city walk you know just like he really did bottom. Yeah, I mean, back in those days, there was no YouTube.
There wasn't even American Idol. If you wanted to get discovered, you'd just kind of pound the pavement.
So we would just sing for anybody, and we'd sing acapella, and they'd be like, oh, you guys got good harmonies. Here's a card.
So eventually, somebody gives you a card that leads to something, leads to something, and we finally got signed. But Backstreet was, we met them at that fair is the reason I was saying that.
They were actually formed. That was 1995.
And they tried to come out here and it didn't really work. So then they went to Germany and blew up in Europe.
And then came back in 97. And then they came back already with like the European crowd built.
So yeah, but NSYNC wasn't, they weren't even formed till after that. and then how long from that Washington did you guys get signed and then you became like this phenomenon so that was uh that was like September of 95 we got signed May of 96 to Motown uh and then they moved us to New York and we did our first record which came out in 97 so you know like in New York, all those studios in the village, you know, Electric Lady and Hit Factory and all.
I mean, we had a good time in New York. And they wanted us to move there to give us a little bit more, you know, a little bit more grit.
You know, we were four white guys from Ohio and we were on Motown. So, like, hey, we need you to be in New York and get a little more street.
Is that where the camouflage pants? Yes, where all the fat farm. And, yeah, we were – it was a different time, man.
Isn't it crazy, like, the baggy jeans? You guys were, like, Timberland boots, the wife beaters, the camo pants, the earrings. I know.
I don't think – I think I was wearing Timberland boots when I met you. I've never stopped wearing Timbs.
By the way, nothing says New York like a pair of Timbs. People pick up hoops in New York in Timbs.
The fresh Timbs, that's a look. I've never owned a pair of Timbs from Orange County.
It's because you don't even wear... No, I respect Timbs, but I never...
But you wear open-toe shoes on a plane. Dude, I wore sandals.
You wear sandals on a plane. I think that's like a fireable offense.
And board shorts. I'd wear sandals in Ohio right now, dude.
That's all I got. At any point, so when things start to really blow up, because we were talking about you played sports, you loved sports, there's always a competitive nature to it, right? When you love sports, even if it's healthy competition, at any point as it's all just coming to this massive wave between groups and stuff like that.
It's never competitive. Not even necessarily a bad way.
Like, F those guys. But are you scoreboard watching at all? Is it a natural thing? I mean, the TRL era, right? Yeah.
We've said this. What a great time.
I think we've all said this. I mean, you watched to see where you were on the countdown.
It was legit. You knew how successful you were at that moment because of where your video was on the countdown.
Dude, MTV Spring Break and TRL. You guys performed at MTV Spring Break.
Yeah, man. How was that? We were at Spring Break the first year when Kid Rock came out, Eminem.
I remember being at Cancun. I'm like, who is this kid, Eminem? Next thing you know, he's freaking blowing.
I mean, it was just a special time in music, man. And MTV was just the.
Didn't Vanessa host MTV Spring Break? Later. Later, right? Like more like early 2000s.
I remember I used to get home from school because like, so like, yeah, I was probably in high school when you guys were on your trajectory and I would come home and watch like TRL was the thing. It was TRL.
Then when Spring Break came, I don't think my parents would even let me watch it, but I'd sneak like then you had the beach house in the summer it was yeah it's so hard to like hear now like obviously like does MTV get sold but no one wants it's like man like there's still gotta be amazing IP you could mine from that era because that era we won't ever see that era again it was I mean it was you know the internet kind of killed all you know, back in those days, if you were into pop culture and you were into music, like you ran home from school and you put, that was your, that was your connection to what was happening in, in pop culture. It was in, and for the artists, I mean, the opportunity to go on there and like the crowds outside and time square and promote your stuff.
And we actually did a promotion with MTV called fly two K. Like we that.
We went overseas. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, like some really crazy cool shit that, yeah, to your point, it's just the brand is always the brand, but it just doesn't have any legs anymore. They can't make it work anymore.
What's the one that you could tell? What's the craziest story? Just, I don't know. Maybe he's one of your guys.
Or you can be like, no, I can't tell that. No, I mean, it's like fans.
I was telling Jerry before he came, I'm like, dude, I've been to your concerts now, like a couple of years ago, where they're still torn, and that demographic now is all like the 30 to 50-year-old ladies who loved you guys, and they're psychos still. Oh, yeah.
So I can only imagine. My wife might be one of them.
Well, now they're drinking,. Now they're holding up the drink.
Yelling. And it's a whole other.
Is there like just a crazy fandom story that sticks out between you guys that you guys like maybe had like a stalker or something? The craziest fans we ever came across, and it's interesting because we're going back there in late May, is like Southeast Asia, like the Philippines. Really? Absolutely.
I mean, chased out of a mall down the street like you, like, picture the Beatles back in the day. That's awesome.
I mean, that was as manic as it ever got for us is over there. And they will follow you all day.
They're incredibly loyal. I don't know where they get the money from, but they literally, they just, no one has jobs.
They just follow you around in taxis all day. Wherever you go, they go.
You go to the it's absolutely nuts but they're i mean the most passionate hardcore fans you can imagine so we're psyched to go you're going there in may yeah we were supposed to go back in 2020 and then uh obviously covid happened and it canceled that trip for obvious reasons but yeah we're finally going back in may um we haven't been there since 2001 it's got to be a good good feeling. Because I only identify with like, you know, it's been now years since like Entourage, whenever meeting the guys will get together or go do something together or present an award somewhere.
It's like, it just feels like it never ended. You just slip right back into it.
Like, you almost have to stop yourself and say, wow, I can't believe that we're doing this still. Do you now because you guys are on tour you go on tour still yeah we still we still get to do and by the way i mean you know exactly how it feels because you guys were part of a pop cult i mean like it was literally that show was so groundbreaking i actually auditioned for that show did you yeah wait let me see if i can get well vince or yeah you gotta be yeah you would have would have been a great Vince.
Nah, it would have been a totally different like take on the character. He was perfect.
But yeah, I mean, it was like, that show was so iconic in that moment. Like it, everyone loved it.
And we definitely had some crazy, like cool fan experiences, but even just talking, it's like, we were never chased out of them all, you know? Like it would, if anything, it would be blurred be blurred lines like, oh, Johnny Depp watches the show,

but he actually thinks Adrian is Vince, which is so weird.

Were you ever, not in character, but we talked about you went out to nightclubs.

Did the group of you guys go out together?

I know Connelly was out.

We would go out, and it would be almost like people thinking we were shooting. I was going to say, do you do you play that up i'd see piven out all the time oh well he was for sure i mean thursday through sunday you could count on that spider uh teddies of course i just always remember people maybe it's because as a character i just always felt like people get disappointed once they actually met me because it would be a lot of like you we gotta go smoke a joint right turtle my buddy i'm not gonna smoke you're strange i don't even know you man i'm sorry it's like really like just a disappointment on their face when they would realize oh this is just a show this isn't real so i've disappointed a lot of people but you know it's hard it's hard to do what you guys did so well um is appeal to guys and girls right like it was a show that you can watch like you know we get drug into watching stuff all the time as dudes but like to have a show that you can watch and your girl likes you guys watch together i mean it was it was uh yeah you guys had a home run man you guys said you're touring and you have a new album coming out we do yeah we have a new album called full circle comes out uh may 9th so it's five new songs and then five re-records yes of the classic we get a classic are we allowed do we have a little i do little una noche yeah we got uh let's see invisible man i do una noche hardest thing and uh what am i because of you were the five re-records and then five new songs so freshie that, is that like, whose idea is that? Does someone come to you guys, or do you guys get together, and you're like, we got some inspiration, let's go lay some stuff down? Yeah, I mean, we've been touring and performing together, and honestly, we have more fun doing it now than we ever have.
It's different now. It's like there's no stupid pressure back in the day.
You just couldn't even enjoy it because you're so worried about losing your grip on it, right? So now it's just like, let's have some beers and have some fun and go out and do a show. So, yeah, we're like, let's make some new music.
I wrote a song. My brother wrote a song.
There's three other songs that were like submissions from people. And, yeah, so we're super proud of it, man.
I think, honestly, in some ways I think we sound better now than we did back in the day. Yeah.
A little wiser. That's got to be awesome.
Like, 20 years later, just with your boys, doing something you love. It hurts, though, man.
Does it? I mean, you know, you get hip replacements. But you guys aren't moving a lot on stage, dude.
I mean, we're no professional football players, but our bodies have taken a toll on us. I could imagine that.
It's not like you're just hopping you guys are known yeah how i was i've actually i've never asked you this i because now your kids are older you have three like how do they how do they see you like when you're on stage because like it's just like i don't know it's got to be pretty cool right or they don't know or that's one of the coolest things about still being able to do it is that now your kids can appreciate you know it's not just a story you tell it's like no we actually can see dad up there doing it but my kids the only time my kids thought i was even remotely cool was when i won mass singer that was which to them to them that was like big deal that was like crazy the highlight of their of their young lives you know they could keep you know care less about 90 degrees doing a show but a pig gets on stage and and sings then they they're all about do any of them have the singing bug yeah what's funny because my my uh oldest two camden and brooklyn just did the school musical and i said to vanessa i said it's gonna go one of two ways like they're gonna either hate it or they're gonna get right like they're gonna get in front of that crowd they're gonna hear the applause and it's gonna oh i got goosebumps it's gonna strike something in them and they definitely both loved it. I think we And it's going to, you know.
Oh, I got goosebumps. It's going to strike something in them.
And they definitely both loved it. Oh, shit, dude.
I think we're on to something. Future laches.
My wife signed our five-year-old for like a summer play. And I'm like, let's wait a little.
Well, dude, your wife acted too. You're going to have.
Yeah, but maybe I'm too J. I'm like, let's slow down here.
Even though I don't think the local Cleveland theater is going to necessarily give them that same pop. It is funny, man.
Like, as much much as I would have loved to have been a football player, I mean, just, it's just not in my genetics. You know what I mean? Like you look at Cole, who's like, I mean, an absolute stud.
It's just, and you see it all the time. Like my kids, yeah, I would love for Camden to play football, but he's much more likely to be a singer or an actor as, you know, something else than it's just the way it is.
I'm so jealous because I retired when Cole was six.

So I think he vaguely remembers going to the games.

But I didn't really play that much.

And then he's 18 now.

Just until recently, and you know Cole,

he just never really looked at me that way.

And all his friends were like,

did your dad, USC, this and that.

And I'm like, it's not a big deal. But finally, as now he's in this journey i'm like i'm like dude like i did play at the highest level i went through a lot of shit i had good and bad like i've seen it all like let me help you but it's just funny like well i don't know if any of you deal like my kids want nothing to do with me coaching them at anything like any advice or offerings i give it's a coach they could get through but me not like they don't they tune it right they know how to do it.
I remember back in the day, I was co-hosting Best Damn Sports Show. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, that was a fun show. I think I guessed one.
And Joe Montana was on, right? And he was on there and talking about Nick, his son. He's like, he doesn't want to listen to a thing because to him, I'm just dad.
Like, I'm dad. Which is great.
He doesn't want to listen to dad. And he's like to him i'm not the greatest you know quarterback that's ever played the game or you know arguably it's he's just dad didn't want to listen to remember when we were at your house remember when i think was it when cole fell and he like did that perfect push-up this was like super huge i used to have a which is funny because it was like he ended up being a great like eight i don't know maybe seven yeah we're up on the pool i had these steps that went down to like the bar and you know he and i are just sitting there shooting the shit and not really paying attention to cole i mean was he one and a half two i don't know was he no he's probably four or five was he i think he's even anyway we're not paying attention he just goes off the steps and i'm thinking he's gonna rip his feet teeth out all he does is put out his hands go push i mean full superhuman he's like dude that's not fucking normal dude it wasn't i was like maybe i should have my eyes on him built different yeah way different i was like wow that kid is strong i had it was we had like because gosh we i mean we we were telling stories i mean gosh cole damn near grew up like i used to take him back in those days to the house with him and Vanessa.
Cole kind of grew up in that old house. That house was awesome.
That was right when you met Vanessa. That was your bachelor pad.
Yeah, I had a sick bachelor pad. Oh, dude, that was the sickest place.
It should have been on Entourage. It was that level.
We had some good times. I've never been in a house where you walk through the front door and the pool is the very first thing you see.
That's the welcome into the... I feel like I've been there before have like what have i ever been you may have since i uh since i sold it i think he throws some good parties is um because we're so i just obviously had my baby girl camilla they're they're i'm under a lot of stress he needs some he needs some advice you have one two i have a almost six almost four oh i've talked it a little bit on the show.
Bri, she knows I have permission to talk about this, but talk about a full court press for baby number three. I'm 45 years old, and I'm just terrified.
I'm like, not that we're on Easy Street, but the system is now in place. We have boys, girls? Two boys.
Two boys, so she's like a really girl. They're the same age as K-San and Kans, like five and four, five and three.
And then my new best friend who FaceTimes me all the time, baby number, beautiful baby girl, and I just, I don't know if I'm going to be able to hold it off, but I just feel like that transition from two kids to three, especially now mine are a little older, it's like I'm just scared, man. It's 100% legit different two to three.
I mean, you've spaced yours out enough that it's like, I don't know if you're a perfect man. But like, I mean, it is.
Somebody told me once you, if you have three, you might as well have five. And there's definitely like some truth to that.
Like once you, once you lose. I'm trying to stop, dude.
Once you lose the man on man to man. Yeah, the zone is hard.
You're, but dude, I mean, boys are awesome. I love my boys.
But man, having a little girl as you i'm sure feel right now i wanted to ask you like because brooklyn's what how does she now 10 10 10 wow great name by the way three boys and we didn't find out for this last one and um you know i i mean i was like when canon came mike was a boy i was like super bummed dude i just thought bad but now he favorite. I was like, tell my girl.
And we didn't know if we're going to have another kid. And then this one we did Surprise.
And when she came out, literally, I've told this, my boy's like, I was bawling. It was just like the greatest moment that we had together that we shared.
Because it was just like, there was a lot of pressure and kind of build up. And everybody wanted us to have a girl.
And everybody taught, like one of our like one of our best friends has three girls like everyone's like oh it's different man if you ever get one and i and i i wanted to ask you but like i felt it instantly like the protector the love just everything different than all my boys and and it's just it's it's a crazy feeling is that i imagine that's it for you especially now Brooklyn is... It's just totally different.
I mean, I love my boys. Don't get me wrong.
But your relationship with your boys is different than with your little girl. It's like she always will be.
And I tell this, I say, you'll always be my little girl. I still, to this day, she's 10 years old.
I pick her up out of bed and carry her downstairs in the morning. I'll do it until she tells me you can't do it anymore.
Like, I'm going to hold on to every moment. She literally just wrote a whole poem about dad at school and parent-teacher conferences, and I'm just bawling and crying.
Like, my dad loves me so much. I'm like, ooh.
I mean, it's just way, way different. And you talk about how in the delivery room, they had to give me the oxygen.
Really? That's how the doctor said, take it off your face. It was on Vanessa.
I said, put it on him. Because I was about to, I was so overwhelmed by having a little girl.
Like, it was just, it's just different. Did you guys find out with her? Oh, yeah.
We found out. Where? So I was, so it was when, because so Josie got a C-section.
She's talked about it. So, like, the baby came out and I, you know, immediately my eyes go straight down.
Like, am I having a boy or a girl? And I was like, I double took because i had never seen that before i was like i looked at doctors i said is that a girl she goes yeah and i that's when it was like i was like wait am i having a girl like it was just it was a shock and i i'll never forget dude like i started bawling i looked down she's and like she's like like i'm looking down at her and i go it's a girl and she goes like she started just bawling crying if it were to have been boy we would it would just i think it was different man it's like and you know i feel like your boys you'll always be close to your boys but they're gonna get older and they're gonna leave they're gonna find their own girl and they're gonna go off and and i feel like your little girl will always come home we always say like girl always stay close you know what i mean and i i tell brooklyn all the time i said you're gonna have to to change. I changed your diapers for years.
At some point. At some point, you're going to change dad's diapers.
It depends. It's coming back.
Well, I want to thank you guys because if my wife is watching right now, you guys just put me in an even tougher spot. Oh, wait.
It's only a matter of time. It's only a matter of time.
Yeah. I always knew we'd have a third.
I always knew we'd have like the oops baby. I just didn't think it would come right in line with line with the other two.
I just thought it'd be like 10 years down. But I'm so glad we did because I got three all together.
And plus, you got the boys to protect your little girl and look out for her. One of them, definitely, for sure.
How's Cam as a big brother to her? Because he's, what, 13, 12? He's 12, yeah. So I remember the middle school when Cole, when they start the attitude starts it just changes oh yeah it's coming they're kind of like they're kind of little dicks and like he's kind of they don't want daddy anymore he's already pushing the yeah you see how much he can get away with it's a slippery slope dude it happens like i grabbed him the other day and he grabbed back i was like oh we're here now okay who's gonna she had to put the kick the dad strength into into gear and show him who's boss a little bit? Unfortunately, my son is bigger than me, and I can't, the dad's strength.
I always tell him, I said, dude, because he always, he. You could still take Cole, though.
You know what he says? This is what he says. He goes, bruh, dad, bruh.
Bruh with the U, bruh. I'm 6'4", 215.
Like, you got two new hips. I will kick your ass.
I'm like, you're going to have to kill me to kick my ass then. Because once you switch, but he's just so big and strong now.
He is a big boy, man. Yeah, I've got friends too.
They're like, yep. It does.
It's the baton's been passed. I know I can't take him anymore.
I gave up on one-on-one. I can't basketball.
I can't guard. I've given up on a lot of things.
He's 18 years old. He's like, yeah, let's go have a dunking contest.
I'm like, buddy, I can't fucking dunk anymore, dude. You're windmilling.
I can't do it. Conversations I've never had.
Dude, how's it going to be covering a game on Saturday that Cole's playing in? Dude. That's going to be trippy, man.
Well, I hope we do. I hope we get.
I mean, it could have been. I can already.
Yeah, it's going to crazy like to talk about especially if he like ends up starting i don't know like his path is gonna be right who knows what's gonna happen but to be on our show and maybe him playing later and like we do a topic actually the craziest thing was like we had prime on last year we had dion and we're doing a live interview with them and this was right when cole committed to smu and dion just puts me on the spot like, Hey man, why didn't you let me start recruiting your kid? I'm like, what? And it was the funniest thing. And I'm thinking like, Holy shit, this is going to be my life.
Like the next, you know, four or five years, three years, whatever it is. Um, it's pretty surreal.
Like it doesn't, it's, it's just dad mode. Like, it's just like, I'd love, I just, I can't wait.
You know, I don't get a chance to see his high school games cause I'm on the road, which is, it just kills me every Friday night. So I stream it.
Typically, I'm in Ohio or Michigan and I'm just like I can't wait. I don't get a chance to see his high school games because I'm on the road, which it just kills me every Friday night.
So I stream it. Typically, I'm in Ohio or Michigan, and I'm just up until 2 a.m.
watching. But it'll be really cool.
It's funny, Nick, because the middle school is tough. Even with girls, I've heard it's harder.
And then it goes back, and then they kind of hate you again. And now I'm seeing kind of the 18 phase where they come back, and it's like your buddy again.
They just appreciate you a little more. They mature, and they start to realize, oh, maybe you do have some advice and wisdom on life.
So it's pretty cool. But I mean, it's got to be.
Think about it, man. It's crazy.
You're Matt Leinert's kid, and you play the same position. I mean, that's daunting, man.
He's handled it really well. He's handled it really well well he's had tough times for sure like i don't want to do this like i just always try like this is your own journey like you just try and like right i've never forced i've never forced him to play football growing up ever he played flag football but it's just like i kept telling him i said dude something tells me this like you're just your god-given ability is this is what you're gonna do from from his house from the from that moment, I think everybody saw he has a different athleticism when he did a push-up at three and a half years old.
And even though he never got a chance to see you play, I mean, the fact that he gets to see you every Saturday on an incredibly cool show talking about the sport he loves, I mean, it's still bad-ass man. We were at El Camino College last month, and he was training, and it was like 10 receivers.
So a lot of the Juco kids and a couple kids came out, and like we needed another arm, and I had shoes on. And my arm feels great.
And actually, my hips feel great. So I was like, I was taking full drops, throwing some dimes, dude.
And honestly, part of me was like, I was kind of like proud of myself because like Cole saw me. Cole seen me throw.
We played catch, but like I was really throwing routes. And like the receivers were like, you know, like I'm just on that like era of like, who are you? Oh, Reggie Bush's quarterback.
Yeah, like that I get a lot. But it was like some of them were SC fans that grew up in LA.
So it was like, it was kind of cool. It's like singing in front of your kids.
Like, hey, I still got it. Like, you know, like daddy can do this.
It's pretty freaking awesome. That's a good party trick to pull out.
Watch me throw these dimes on these routes. Like just step in.
I don't have much left. Dude, one of my favorite memories is obviously at the orange bowl.
Oh yeah. Beat Oklahoma national championship.
And Matt's got to go on. Was it Kimmel I think? Or yeah, it was Kimmel.
And he's like, I come on the show with me. I don't want to go on by myself.
Come myself come on with me so I was like so I rode the team charter back and by the way I always thought the team chart was like these incredibly luxurious seats was it not we were just like coach it was commercial planes but we were all coach yeah like these gigantic gigantic beings just sitting out like this I don't know what happened in my mind if you were a at least at USC like I remember seniority maybe captain whatever starter like you were in the back least at USC, like I remember seniority, maybe captain, whatever, starter,

like you were in the back.

And it was because I was, I think I was in the row with Reggie.

You had a middle seat that was open.

Even, by the way, even in NFL, that's how it was too.

Yeah, crazy.

Like we had, yeah.

Yeah, I thought the same thing as you.

You thought it was like this like luxurious.

Yeah, like you have nice space.

Dude, I sat.

Giant human beings slammed in the coast.

I sat in front of Sebastian Janikowski and Shane Leckler on planes in Oakland. That was rough, dude.
Still afraid of him. But that was awesome, man.
I mean, coming off the high, winning the national championship and then flying with the team back to – We were probably still drunk that next day. Easily.
So you literally had a front row seat to that run. Thanks to this guy.
Yeah. Like I remember a couple games I remember, man, that Cal game.
You were on the field. I was on the field, and Rodgers went four and out.
They were on the goal line. Like, there were so many times that season it almost slipped away.
Did you go to the Texas game? Yeah. You were probably there, too.
Oh, yeah? That's right. Yeah.
That was a whole different. By the way, my MJ story, Nick was there.
Cabana Club. I was headbutting everybody.
I probably headbutted Nick. Included.
I took one to the face. This was after the game? I think it was two nights after.
We all went out. The night of the game, it was crickets.
It was so it was like somebody had died. It was really really depressing.
But a couple nights later, this guy needed to let off some steam for obvious reasons. I i was sad we were it was me you it was a bunch of the crew and then that's what i said like oakley and mj were like three tables down and oakley called me over hey mj and i took my brother and me my brother sat with mj and oakley for five ten minutes whatever had a shot mj was at the game it was awesome and i I was like, I got so drunk.
I started headbutting people. I actually, no, by the way, so I got a concussion in that game.
Like I got banged up decent. Like I still played.
And then, so it wasn't that bad. But then I was an idiot.
I had a concussion. All of my draft prep, dude, I was concussed.
No, I didn't. I told Steve Clarkson, my quarterback coach, I'm like,'m like dude i'm like this is not good and i dealt with that for for six weeks so it was like no i mean it was i was still lifting but i was like concussed for a long time from a night out i woke up at the peninsula hotel no clue how i got there any idea how he got i don't think i made it to the peninsula shout out to my boy jj i know jj i'm gonna i'll send him this clip he he says he carried me from the club and got me in a taxi at the time because we were i don't know how far cabana and peninsula were but it's probably right there um i think it's like the renaissance hotel now or whatever it's right there and uh he put me in my room put me in bed i woke up the next day like holy shit what, what happened? I think he came back in and he goes, bro.

He just started laughing.

I remember the cab ride home.

I went back with my brother

to Newport, threw up

in the whole cab home on the back.

It was a van. I'll never forget.
I was like, oh my god.

This is what you had to deal with all these years?

This guy was always good for a little vomit in the shower

the next day.

My guest bathroom took some hits over the course of work. Oh, Vanessa was not happy with me on that one.
Well, I feel like we opened the door for sports a little bit here now that we're segueing in. I forgot about that one, by the way.
You know, I got to get your initial gut reaction. Your Bengals made some signings.
The offense is coming back. Yeah.
How are you feeling going into the next season knowing that you got the offense intact and defensively maybe just figure it out is in trouble yeah i mean i i'm gonna state the obvious we're gonna have to score a gazillion points i mean which you can which which we can and we'll have to because yeah the d's i mean i hopefully we have enough to to sign hendrickson you know i don't i how that's going to play itself out. But, you know, that's the problem, right? You can't let these guys go.
Then you look like you're not trying. You're not trying to stay competitive.
But obviously all our eggs are in one basket. And so the defense is going to be.
And people forget, man. I always remind people this.
Like when we made our Super Bowl run that year, the D's stepped up. The D was good, especially in the end run.
We almost lost in the walker game to the game to the raiders we had a goal line interception i mean we almost didn't make it out of the wild card round so the d while they didn't have the you know many of the marquee players they they definitely made plays and like and i think in my opinion lou got a little bit of a bad rap this year i mean the guy was he yeah head coaching finalist two years ago. And now he didn't forget how to coach.
We didn't have any talent on defense. So I think as a Bengals fan, I'm excited.
They're making the efforts to keep talented players together. Right.
So I think that's, you know, as a fan, that's all you can ask for is that the ownership's trying, you know, to keep it together. And it was just such a slow start, Lash.
I. I really think that.
To the Patriots game. Yeah.
If you win the game, you're in the play. And no one wanted to play the Bengals in the playoff.
It was like, you don't want to play a team like that. That's football, though.
It's just. Bad situational football, in my opinion.
A lot of times last year with the Bengals. There were just bad calls at the end of the, like coaching calls, in my opinion, at the end of games that we left some wins out there that we should have had.
And we should have been definitely in the playoffs. We were hitting our stride.
But yeah, why we start so slow is, you know, it's beyond me. I guess we got to play more in the preseason.
I don't know. Did you go to the Super Bowl when they went? Were you there for it? I was there, yeah.
I mean, I know how you took it. But I feel like you and I are similar.
Like I get disgusted loss. I can't even listen to sports radio the next day.
I think Nick's a lot more emotionally louder than you. Oh, during the game? I watched the Knicks.
I mean, this is the only time I watched a Knicks playoff. He's sitting in the corner.
He's just like this, just fucking laser focused. Don't talk to me, but he's super invested.
I feel like you're throwing shit at this. He a little more emotional because i've been with you in that game i was yeah i was oh you were it was you know in a normal game had a few getting a little mouthy but super bowl i was like locked in man and i just the fact that chase was so open on that last play and he just had one more second oh my god and i didn't and it was in la too.
And I've never. Why didn't Piran lay out for the ball? It's fourth and two.
Like, he just watched it fall. Like, at least dive.
At least make me feel like you care about winning this damn game. I'm so upset.
This is exactly him. But you know what, man? Hey, I'm not just saying this.
The Rams have always been my other team for as long as I can remember since ED was with the Rams and I was a little kid. So any other year, I'd have ecstatic.
And I love Whitworth, you know, good Bengal guy. So I was, you know, happy for him.
Walter Payton man of the year. He goes out beating his old team.
I'm like, you can't script this stuff, man. And then the next year you guys went to loss in the playoffs, right? That was tough because our mayor was mouthing off.
I remember that. That was like, I don't like when the mayor's getting involved.
Yeah, really? Like, come on now, guys. What are we doing? Mike Hilton's talking about Burrowhead and all that.
Just play the game. Their insult, their trash talk is so bad.
It's bad and also you don't trash talk Mahomes. Like, you just don't do that.
Yeah, there's some guys who don't want to even... Just like, don't even make eye contact with them.
Oh, and didn't Kelsey call him out on the stage too, right, or whatever? Yeah, not a good look. What do you call him? Jabroni.
That's right. You fucking Jabroni.
There's only one person who could call someone a Jabroni. It's The Rock.
After that, like, you should be. It was actually really funny, though.
I don't know, man. All respect, Travis Kelsey.
He's a Bearcat. Can't talk any trash on the Kelsey brothers.
Bengals. They repped the Bearcats, well.
I like, I like, I root for the Bengals. I love Joe Burrow.
So are you a Giants guy too? I'm a big Giants fan and I remember different than you when they played the Patriots that first year in Arizona. I got, I was invited to go.
I had a bunch of friends going and I, I just, I guess deep down I didn't think they were really going to win. I wasn't quite sure and then I just didn't, I couldn't go.
I didn't think I could handle it. Yeah.

That's why I asked you if you went.

I did not.

I was at that.

Connelly went.

Kevin Dillon went.

So many of my friends went.

And I was just like, guys, I have to watch this at home for so many reasons.

Well, that was the undefeated Patriots team, too.

So it was like a foregone conclusion.

They're going to finish this thing off.

And then I'm superstitious.

So then they get back two years later in Indy versus the Pats. And I'm like, well, well I stayed home last time and they won so now I can't go again because I'm a superstitious motherfucker and I stayed home again I skipped both of them well hey maybe I should start skipping start skipping man start skipping no I took I took my oldest Camden to the Super Bowl and I was like because he was there oh he was in shambles in tears oh really because he was there it forced me to actually try and set a good example and not lose my shit when we lost.

So I actually kept it together just to try and be a good example.

He's a poor guy.

You've made him a Bengals fan.

He's going to be just –

No, but look –

He's got good –

But it's so hard to win.

He's got good teams.

So years ago when the Bengals were literally terrible

and not spending – They weren't spending their money. Like a killing Smith territory.
They just never spent money. Yeah, they just didn't spend.
And it was before you had to spend a certain percentage of your cap. Like you had to, now they've changed it.
But I actually went to the league office and met with the vice president of operations on behalf of Bengal fans and fans and said whoa what's happening to the bengals fan base is an absolute travesty we've supported this team sell out year after year after year and the ownership's not doing anything so he said hey in full disclosure there's new rules coming in where they're they're gonna have by by rule have to spend a certain percentage of it and that's when it kind of turned around they started to spend money. So you're the reason.
When you went to the league office on behalf of Bengals fans, was that on your own idea? Or was there like a consortium of Bengals fans that were like, someone needs to speak for us. You know who? Nick Lachey.
So 90 Degrees had performed. I had a relationship with the head of entertainment for the NFL because we performed like the pro bowl halftime and done all this stuff with the nfl so you knew the right

you knew the people so i i hit her up i said hey i i this is right when roger goodell was hired he

was hadn't been in office but two three years and i said hey i'd love to meet with the commissioner

and she said you're not gonna meet with the commissioner but i will but i will set up a

meeting for you and i was like hey i'll take it so i literally walked in there trying to you know

put on my my best professional so what do they say to you you're like yeah mr they a meeting for you. And I was like, hey, I'll take it.
So I literally walked in there trying to put on my best professional. So what do they say to you? You're like, yeah, Mr.
They have to hear you out. They hear you out, but they're like.
He said, first, in full disclosure, I represent Marvin Lewis, who was the coach at the time. I said, no, no, I got no problem with Marvin.
He's turned the Bengals around to an extent. It's not his fault.
I'm not here to bash him. But because it's really, I mean, you have these diehard Bengal fans.
Hard-earned money, man. And they're spending it at Bengal games.
And the ownership's not doing anything to put a winning product on the field. That makes sense.
Somebody had to fight the good fight. I once went to the, like a year ago, went to the Pro Football Hall of Fame in Canton.
Right? Short drive for me now. And I was let into this vault of archived stuff that no one's ever seen.
It's not really ever on display and walking around so much cool stuff. But then I get to this one section that just says Cleveland Browns.
I'm like, okay, this is interesting. And then they basically, they say the NFL Pro Football Hall of Fame has every letter, not every, most letters that every fan of the Browns wrote after the team got moved to Baltimore.
And I was like, can I read some of these? They're like, sure, go ahead. I opened them up.
And it was like heartbreaking stuff. Like 80-year-old men like, I can't believe you fucking did this too.
Like yelling at heart. They're spending their heart and money.
Like these letters should be published into a book. Some of them were heartbreaking.
Some were optimistic. Some made you angry as a fan.
What would I do if all of a sudden I woke up and the Giants are leaving. They're going to San Francisco.
Something like that. I mean, aside from the Cavs winning that one finals when LeBron came back, look at Ohio professional sports.
Loyal loyal fans beyond belief, but, like, no champion. I think the Reds in 1990 were, like, the last.
I love that team. It's one of my favorite teams.
I mean, it was an incredible year, but, like, you know, Cleveland hadn't won anything forever. Heartbreak, I mean, the fumble, the drive, you know, L.E.
got them twice. We talked about this the most, like, what was it, the heartbreaking, like, Minnesota, like minnesota like just torture tortured fan base like buffalo and for a long time ohio state was the same thing like good but never quite lived up to expectations until urban came back and and got a couple for him so like ohio sports fans are tortured man i feel like that's how i knew you were a big sports fan over the at some point i saw you publicly rocking a Reds hat, I want to say.
Oh, yeah. And I'm like, no one rocks a Reds hat unless they love that team.
And that 90s Reds team is one of my favorite. I have like a weird obsession with Barry Larkin.
Is that Eric Davis too? Eric Davis, Paul O'Neill, Chris Sabo. Mariano Duncan.
Mariano Duncan. That is a great team.
Was Larry Walker on that team? No. He was after.
But they had the Nasty Boys. It was Rob Dibble.
Rob Dibble. Randy Myers, Norm Charlton.
Once you got to the seventh inning, forget it. You weren't.
It was very large. One of my favorite teams of all time, and that's when I really got into baseball.
Wire to wire, man. First place the entire year.
Really? Yeah. It's like my Dodgers now.
Before we let you go, we have to talk. Love is blind.
We just have to. Because I'm obsessed with, I look at things like, man, that just looks like a great job.
And I hate to call it a job, right? I just look at it like, that looks like just a great, especially you got a family. So it's not something like you're gone for like 11 months.
It just looks like, not only is the show great and people love the show, and I'm sure you get amazing fan interactions with the show, it just looks like a great time. I mean, look, it's probably the greatest gig in Hollywood, honestly, because that's what he said.
He's like, Nick's got the greatest job in the world. If you ever want to take a year off, I will happily sub it.
One year, one and done. If you ever want to say, I want to take one year off, Jerry, please think of me.
No, we're very lucky. We always think about how lucky we are to be hosting that show.
In the first season, we were a lot more involved. It was like, you know, you don't know how shows are going to work in your first year.
So we shot the whole thing in Atlanta. We were interviewing them when they came out of the pods, on their dates.
We were really like, we go to their apartments. And then I think they realized, you know, Kinetic realized, hey, this is really about their journey.
It's not so much about. Yeah, so it's great to still be involved in the show, but obviously it's like, we kind of feel like we want to be more involved, honestly.
Right. And then the reunion comes around and that's where we have to really.
That's like your Super Bowl, right? The reunion is. Which no one's ever happy with.
It's always like, if you go in too hard on people, they're like, why are you being so mean? Why are you going on? Oh, you don't push hard enough. If you don't go in on that.
You let them off the hook. They got a free pass.
You took some slack for that, right? Or something? Every single year. That you're too firm or you're not, you don't push hard enough? It depends on the year.
Why are you passing? All the men are getting passed. You're not passionate enough.
make everybody happy. And I always say it's like, it's kind of a, you know what I always think about? I remember this poll back in the day on SportsCenter, the most, the favorite anchor and the least favorite anchor was Stuart Scott.
Yeah. On both of them.
So that's how you know you're like, you're doing something right. If people either love you or hate you.
Or hate you. They can't turn away.
So love is blind, man. It's like, you feel like you can't, you can't keep everybody happy, but that's kind of like, I think a byproduct of, of just having a successful show.
Right. I mean, it's like, well, I know you weren't happy with that, but you were, and what are you going to do? What is it? What is like, cause this is what? Eight seasons now or nine? We just aired eight.
Yeah. That's awesome.
We've had 14, 14 marriages in eight seasons. Well gonna ask what's the success rate and that's a good rate 12 12 of those are still married so dang that's pretty good i feel like with those shows it's like either hit or miss and obviously there's like what is the secret sauce of love is like you probably can't even say honestly i don't know but like why do people why are people so enamored with it i think man, it's just like, thank God I don't have to know about this, but the dating world now and all the apps and swiping and all these things, I think this is like a throwback to old school dating, like getting to actually know somebody.
So I think these are people, for the most part, who haven't found what they're looking for, and this is a different way to go about doing it. And the chance to get to know somebody like we've had multiple people say I never would have dated that person right in the real world never would even talk to him but once you've fallen in love with them emotionally you know and then you see them it's like wow my eyes are open to something I never saw coming it's it's so I think it's authentic and that's why people are drawn to it it's like there's an authentic heart to it it's an authentic you know love story to it that uh it still you know resonates with people what are the uh what were the odds of you and vanessa making it on that show of finding each other yeah i honestly think we would have really i mean i'm not just saying that like as lip service i think like we because that's kind of how i mean obviously we knew what each other looked like and that was yeah well you guys she was hot as hell and still is so i was i'm not gonna pretend like it's love is blind but you had her in your music video too but we did a lot she was in new york i was in la we did a lot like on the four hour phone conversations just like getting into like all the all the roots of it man like like asking the questions that people i think in today's dating world just don't that you don't get to anymore.
So there's some similarities.

I think we would have found each other.

I think we're enough alike that we would have connected

and found each other in the pods.

I stand by it.

I got a few quick hitting stuff, and then we'll let you go.

Number one, wait.

You sang at his wedding, right?

Did.

Is this true?

Now, what's Matt's approach like?

I feel like he's not asking you like, hey, Nick, cut up and say a few words. Like, hey, could you sing at the wedding? That's a pretty solid favor.
I'll be honest. It's one of the most nervous moments of, you know.
I get it. I get it.
I've sung on national television. I've sung, I sang the anthem at the World Series once.
That was really intimidating which series was that who uh yankees

yankee yankees marlins oh oh that one didn't end well for me but so yeah no so i was sitting there and i had a little pitch pipe and i'm like got the first note in my head because you don't want to start the anthem wrong or then you're screwed and i'm sitting there and i knew aaron boone from when he was with the reds and so he and i go way back and uh so he started he comes up to me starts talking to me I'm like

get the fuck out of here was with the Reds and so he and I go way back and uh so he starts he comes up to me he starts talking to me I'm like I'm so nervous about the sing the national anthem and I'm like I'm scared I'm gonna lose the pitch because I'm talking to Aaron Boone um anyway but no that was one of the one of the most nervous moments of my of my singing life because it's you know someone's biggest moment in their life yeah it's like um and i've been like hired to do weddings and stuff but when you're like emotionally invested in here you know well that that was so the first so our first dance so actually josie's best friend wrote the song and he sang it so that's actually a little more challenging oh so even to learn a new so it was like that's it was like two of our closest friends were were intimately involved in that. And then the one that just obviously means the world to me still was like my mom had just passed away like a year and a half earlier.
So she got to see like Josie's wedding dress in a picture when she was in the hospital and then she was gone. And Josie's dad had passed the year we met, which he had been passed for maybe five or six years at that point.
like so we so she didn't she didn't get the father daughter dance i didn't get the mother son dance so i had an idea of like i asked nick i was like hey i like my mom loved um billy joel so we did billy joel like a little mash-up of billy joel and frank sinatra was her dad so nick so i kind of told nick and nick it was perfect so like we danced together i danced with her mom Sinatra was her dad. That's a great matchup.
So I kind of told Nick, and Nick, it was perfect.

So we danced together.

I danced with her mom.

She danced with my dad to this little matchup.

And it was a surprise to Josie.

Actually, it was a surprise to everybody but me and Nick.

She just made it a little hit.

I know.

So it was like, that was just an incredible moment.

We have the video.

I should actually send you the video.

We have the video.

It was just an amazing moment.

And I was like, dude, thank you then and then the not to switch from emotional but then the best part was we were all getting hammered up and he was dancing remember you were singing nick just took the mic started singing like karaoke with you just went rogue you just went rogue oh i'm seeing superstition no you said superstition i have no pitch but like writing's on the wall and then we had josie's mom come up and they were on and they were it was so it was so that was a great after party it was so much fun yeah it was a great great weekend that's when that's when i mean now true or false for you rookie hazing you had to sing i told him i had to sing what did you sing well i had to sing two songs i had to sing paris hilton's song oh okay and then i had to sing uh i sang one of nicks probably what's left of me at the time was it right 2006 so i had to i had to sit i had to stand on top we were in flagstaff i had to stand it's pretty easy i mean it's like now they do like the whole like you see on hard knocks we like i was in the cafeteria liner you got to sing and you got to sing your boy Lachey song. And I was like, all right.
So I just sang it for like a minute and that was it. Last one.
And you don't want, you could just say true or false if you don't want to get into it. You got kicked out of a Chargers game? This is coming from your boy, Matty Ice right here.
You could just say true or false if you don't want to get into the story. Well, you know, the Chargers no longer play at Qualcomm.
So I'm off the hook. I'm off the hook.
It's the San Diego Chargers. You're out of the black, you're not in the black book no it was we were sitting there as a big group of us went down for the game bangles charges game and and this guy sitting in front of us like literally we just sat down charges get a first down he turns around and goes first down right in my face i'm like oh man it's gonna be one of these days so you know it just escalated from there so then the the whole, and there's a group of like 10 of us.
I'm like, dude, you don't want to do this. And it just escalated and escalated.
Did he have a jersey on? Was he rocking a jersey? So the best part of it is we called the Olshansky game because he had an Olshansky jersey. I'm like, what the hell is Olshansky? So we started going in on him about Olshansky.
Was that Igor Olshansky, right? The D-eman? I think that's what his name was. Oh my gosh.
So yeah, it was, and everybody in that section is like, he does this all the time. He's so obnoxious.
They were on my side, but it didn't. I think you got, well, you got banned from the stadium, right? All of you? I did not.
A couple of the guys in the group were referred to anger management in terms of getting let back in the stadium. The officer who came, she was super nice.
She was like, I actually dated your cousin in Oxford, Ohio. I'm like, oh.
So as I'm getting kicked out of the stadium, we had this connection. And you're like, getting us out of this? Can you help me here? No, but we won the game.
It's all that matters. Bengals won? Bengals won.
It's all that matters. Pulled it out.
We'll do it. Thank you so much, man.
Oh, thank you guys. Your friendship is real.
Like, I've now, I've gotten the full, I see it. Like, the history, you got it.
I always say this, like, it's years, 20 years since 03 or 04 we met. And, like, there's just, like, everyone used to always say, like, oh, like, you know, like, a boy band member gets a narrative perception.
I had, obviously, a perception of the way I played. But, like, we were, like, we're the genuinely close, close friends.
So, and I've always told people, was like dude when you meet Nick you're gonna love the dude like he's just one of us what could have happened if Nick Lachey walked on to USC the greatest line I've ever heard Nick say we might be talking highs but it might be a whole different conversation I mean on my way to dance class that's gonna get clipped I wanna go play football just so you know that's gonna get clipped it's gonna be on That's going to be on Instagram. That same week, I remember I was in Heritage Hall and Rob Johnson was like, hey man, you know where the key is to the weight room? I was like, he thinks I belong here.
This is great. He thinks I'm on the team.
They shattered your dream so fast. It was awesome.
Thanks, buddy. Thanks, Nick.
Appreciate you guys. All right, everyone, listen up.

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Rules and restrictions may apply. All right, it's time for a full focus presented by NHTSA.
Using your phone while you're driving could kill someone. Put the phone away or pay.
Paid for by NHTSA. This is something where we are going to spotlight someone or something that we think is fully focused.
The Masters, as we air this, is on right now. We had the pleasure of talking to Justin Thomas.
Yes, we did. Last week.
I'm going with Justin Thomas fully focused because I love what he said in the interview when talking about Augusta. He said basically, you know, guys get there Sunday, Monday.
They play all these practice rounds, all this intensity. By the time they get to Wednesday, they're like pumped and ready to go.
And then Thursday morning, they're exhausted. And he said this year he's trying something a little different where he's just going to be a little more casual, get there a little later, play a little less.
So to me, that's a different kind of focus. Well, I mean, it's the old thing.
Like when I was in, we played a national championship games or a super bowl. It's like, you just kind of treat it like it's a normal game.
Because if you, you know, try and study a little bit more, you over-prepare or, Hey, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to lift weights a little harder. It's just like you get out of your routine.
And I think for him, like he's played it so many times, like you can't control the weather, the elements of this course. You just go out there and you give your best.
He's playing great golf right now. But, yeah, I like that.
I like the mindset. I think I might throw him a text this weekend.
Wait a second. Well, what he said, too, that got me was, like, he said, no one's ever lost the Masters because they didn't know Augusta.
They didn't know the course. Like, you know the course.
You played it a thousand times. Wait, did you say you're going to throw him a text? I'm going to throw him a text this weekend.
Why not? One of the best things that's come from doing throwbacks since matt helped facilitate getting justin thomas on the show was that we are now in a group text with justin thomas which for me is a big treat you cannot text justin thomas on masters are you jerry did you answer a text when you're shooting a big scene on the entourage on entourage when're done, when you're in your trailer eating craft services?

Yes, bro.

Yeah, but it's just different.

What if he's leading?

So you're telling me if he's in the lead

or in the final pairing after Saturday's round

going into Sunday, what do you text him?

Do you think that...

Just some athlete stuff I don't get.

Do you think if he's leading Sunday morning...

Right, so you don't think he's got a text from his boys saying, let's fucking go. Are we his boys now? Hell yeah, we're his boys.
I don't feel like we're there yet. Maybe that's why I don't feel like me and Justin Thomas are there.
By the way, do you want to know what I did on a game day one time? Monday night football, the Bears game. Do you remember that? Yeah, of course.
Okay, so that was a night game. Do you want to know what I did that Monday morning monday morning true story oh no the monday morning before your monday night game against the bears i played

starting and i actually played well that game i played 18 holes on my golf simulator at kapalua

bay in hawaii with two other my other teammates the game on monday night football because we

didn't now is that like a stress reliever are you trying i was just like let's just play 18 we don't

have to be at the stadium until like one o'clock or 12 i literally got up i went upstairs i had

I don't have to be at the stadium until like 1 o'clock or 12.

I literally got up.

I went upstairs.

I had a golf simulator, which was pretty badass at the time.

And I played 18.

I used to play, I think it's Kapalua Bay.

Yeah, yeah, it's in Hawaii.

Because it just was pretty on the simulator.

And it was like the palm trees in the ocean right there.

And I played 18.

I don't know how long that took me an hour.

You had your own golf simulator?

How are you still like not even into golf and you shoot in the 90s?

Here we go. the palm trees in the ocean right there and i played 18 i don't know how long that took me you had your own golf simulator how are you still like not even into golf and you shoot in the 90s i made some dumb purchases when i was younger that was probably it wasn't a dumb purchase but i actually watched tv on it it was actually are you superstitious when it came to your career at all sports wise because i am with acting and everything i'm just a superstitious person by nature.
I can only imagine golfers definitely have their superstitious quirks. Were you game day? Yeah, I had game day superstitions kind of during the week.
Like you'd eat this. I think the little stuff that you hear you just again.
It's just you kept the whole point is you kept the same routine kind of no matter what the game was, you know, like obviously like like for for masters like with JT. We talked about it's like, of course, it's bigger.
It's huge. It's the masters.
but if you let yourself kind of no matter what the game was, you know, like obviously like for Masters, like with JT, we talked about it. It's like, of course, it's bigger.
It's huge. It's the Masters.
But if you let yourself kind of let it consume you, the emotions and what it means and hey, if I win this, like I'm going to be down as one of the greatest. Like if you do that, that's when I think your game kind of falls apart.
He's just not as present. I think he's just like, listen, man, like I know the course.
I'm going to go play. I'm playing pretty good golf right now.
And then you just want to make the cut. You want to position yourself on Sunday to be in the running.
I'm telling you right now, this dude is going to be in the running. I'm with you.
And he is going to pump the pod. And he's going to pump Matt and Jerry.
And he's going to win this shit, dude. Let's go.
If we're talking full focus, which we are, Matt, I need you to focus. Do not text Justin Thomas this weekend.
Because if he loses, then it'll be my fault. Just don't do it.
Just don't do it. Don't do it.
I may do it. It's part of golf etiquette.
If he makes the cut, I'll do it. He's going to make the cut.
Why does that upset you so much? I want nothing to do with Justin. I want nothing to do with this.
Don't do it in our group chat. Text them on the side because then I'm going to get associated to you.
Then you're going to get excited. You're going to get trigger fingers.
You're going to be like, I got to text them. I got to text them.
That's what's going to happen. I'll start sending memes and happy Gilmore stuff to them.
I can't wait to watch them. All right.
Good luck, Justin. Yeah.
All right. Another one in the books.
Thank you, Nick Lachey. Another good friend.
You have an eclectic group of friends, Matt. I really do.

You have an interesting group of friends.

I never thought in a million years

that one of my best buddies would be

an all-time boy band member.

I just think if you ever go solo,

if you do like the Matt liner,

it should be Matt and Friends.

Matt and Friends.

Just bring on all your,

maybe I'll just be a friend still.

Listen, my journey through sport

has,

is connecting me

to a lot of cool people, bro.

Just like you.

See you next time.