2024 in Review: The Year in Bad Takes & Unforgettable Moments + Justin Kroll’s 2024 Film Awards

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Speaker 1 Maddie Ice.

Speaker 1 What's up?

Speaker 1 Ice is going to be the key of today's show.

Speaker 1 The year.

Speaker 1 We talked about doing this episode where we do a year in review which a lot of people do so we wouldn't be the first to do it but we're certainly not going to be the last but when we were talking it became you know instead of just pointing to the things we know were so amazing like uh dodgers or the knicks why don't we take a look back of 2024

Speaker 1 and find what went wrong the freezing cold takes and big shout outs to the account on twitter or x or whatever you call it these days freezing cold takes or at old takes exposed, because that was a big resource

Speaker 1 for us. But we are going to pull some of the freezing cold takes from 2024 and review them.

Speaker 1 I'm laughing because

Speaker 1 like there's, it's so exciting, but there's like just three or four dudes who just fill up. Like, I'm like, when you're like diving into this, you're like, oh, he said that.
Oh, he said that again.

Speaker 1 Oh, this guy. There's like four or five guys.
There's, there's some good ones. I don't even know where to start.
I feel like

Speaker 1 personally,

Speaker 1 I'm going to start.

Speaker 1 I'm guilty of this because we, on one of the very first shows, I think we did a bet about me saying the New York Jets are going to make the Super Bowl. I'm pretty sure.
And we were talking about.

Speaker 1 Did you say that? No, I think I said they would have to make an AFC championship game for you to wear like

Speaker 1 a Super Bowl. Oh, that was the safest

Speaker 1 thing in the house.

Speaker 1 It was the dumbest. And honestly, so I'm on record basically as one of these idiots who had a freezing take.

Speaker 1 I'm going to stay on that. I'm just going to start this off with my boy Peter Schrager.
Okay. Oh, no.
I love Schrager. So, Shrag's my dog.

Speaker 1 And we'll get him to comment on this. He's my boy.
I love Shrag's. On September 4th, 2024, early in the season.
Aaron Rodgers is my pick for the 2024 NFL MVP.

Speaker 1 By the way, I'm sure there were hundreds of people who were going to say that.

Speaker 1 What he's about to do for the Jets fans this season is something even he couldn't grasp or foresee no oh no and he's he's by the way he's he's worn out this take all year for sure but that's my fun i just because i love shregs that's got that's one of my takes i mean how bad have the jets been it's just been bad it's it's arguably the the freezingest of freezing

Speaker 1 yeah it's by far the worst take of of of 2020.

Speaker 1 now i'm going to dive into before i do i just want to say this what i would like to see happen today is also, it is an homage to the take because as much as we're pointing and we're not clowning, but we're pointing to what everyone screwed up.

Speaker 1 I've even been a victim of the old takes exposed account. I've been, I was brought up on charges.
I made some take at halftime of, I don't even know if it was a Knicks game or something.

Speaker 1 I don't remember. And immediately I got tagged 150 times at cold takes, all that stuff.
And I lobbied because I didn't think it was a take. I just said, oh, I'm just reacting.

Speaker 1 It's not, I'm not giving an opinion. And my friends at All Takes Expose weighed in and they retracted the bad.

Speaker 1 What was your take? I can't remember.

Speaker 1 It was just something like a team was shooting real bad. It might have been the Knicks and basketball.
And I might have said something just like, they're, you know, innocuous.

Speaker 1 Like, there's just no way any team could win a game going three for 24 from the three-point line. And that team went on to win.
It's like, hey, I didn't say they were going to lose.

Speaker 1 I said, they continue to shoot this way. They're going to lose.
And they didn't continue to shoot that way. They heated up.
So luckily they took me off that. But I'm going to dive into mine.

Speaker 1 Well, my first one, but I just want to say takes are like performance art. And there are a few Mount Rush more people.
I found the same thing as you that, wow.

Speaker 1 And I couldn't even imagine if every single day, five days a week, the job is to wake up and give a take. Like, you know, you're on the road almost half the year and you're not doing takes, right?

Speaker 1 So I respect it.

Speaker 1 Before I give mine, can I give the one I want to hang in the Louvre as like a, this one should go out to see him?

Speaker 1 This is an all-timer and it's from a, it's from an all-time goat.

Speaker 1 So this is not a 2024 thing, but yes, Colin Cowherd, who I respect because it's just him and the mic. He does hours and hours a week by himself, spitting out takes.

Speaker 1 But at halftime of the Patriots Falcons Super Bowl,

Speaker 1 when the Pats were down 28-3, he tweeted. I screenshotted this myself that I'm looking at.

Speaker 1 In the moment, he said, I would hold off on trading Jimmy G.

Speaker 1 That was his tweet at halftime of the game. So he's definite Mount Rushmore.

Speaker 1 Can I just follow that up on my Mount Rushmore? Yes, do it.

Speaker 1 When Max Kellerman came out and said Tom Brady's fallen off a cliff, I believe it was

Speaker 1 July 18th. I looked this up.
July 18th, Kellerman had a couple, had a couple of falling. He might be

Speaker 1 in 2016, basically saying that Tom Brady has fallen off a cliff. I don't, when, what year was this Super Bowl?

Speaker 1 This was 20, I'm getting the year, but 2016, this is when he said that. I think he went on to play for, well, that's before he went to Tampa, and then he won another Super Bowl.
That by far.

Speaker 1 Mount Rushmore of takes, basically. Wow.
I played until he was 45 years old. My first take i want to give is from a football player and unfortunately it's someone you know he also went to usc

Speaker 1 but caleb williams texting fellow rookie punter tori taylor hey you're not gonna punt too much here and that's a good one lo and behold the bears are i think tied for second overall in over in total punts so that's a pretty that wasn't even on frozen take freezing cold takes that just was out there So

Speaker 1 Caleb you're on the list for 2020. There's a lot.
There's a lot of bears

Speaker 1 Nick Wright Nick Wright's he he's a he's a FS1 colleague Fox colleague future Mount Rushmore Dude, he's already cold taker in August this year. He basically picked the bears to win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 He picked them to win the Super Bowl. I can't, I don't think in his right mind when he said that he actually believed that, but that was one of his takes.

Speaker 1 And another one of his takes, I'm just going to stay in the same vein here

Speaker 1 and go to college football. He basically said, when it comes to Colorado football, I'll take all the unders you want to sell me.
Under wins, yards, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 1 They're never going to make a bowl game, blah, blah, blah. And obviously, Prime and their son, they went 9-3.
Or they're going to make a bowl game. Or they made a bowl game, excuse me.

Speaker 1 They were one game away earlier this year to get to a Big 12 championship game.

Speaker 1 Dead wrong on that one as well. Yeah, Nick Wright slowly, and again, respected.
He's on TV five days a week. It's definitely ratings people watch just to see what he's going to say.

Speaker 1 He's on the fast track to the Mount Rushmore.

Speaker 1 Mine,

Speaker 1 and this is a guy I love. Again, we're not saying that these people aren't great at what they do.
It's just you can't find out about the take till a little bit after. Mike Greenberg of ESPN.

Speaker 1 Love Mike Greenberg. Also, probably pretty miserable because he's a big Jets fan.
But here's one of his freezing cold takes.

Speaker 1 Absolutely everyone is on alabama tonight absolutely everyone is never right give the points georgia that was on september 28th we know that the final score was bama 41 34.

Speaker 1 mike greenberg you make the list this year

Speaker 1 there's some how about oh you know i was i was diving into this

Speaker 1 And this one actually pissed off a lot of people. I can't remember if we talked about it on the show or not, but it was this year.

Speaker 1 It was the Austin Rivers saying he can name 30 NBA players that could play in the NFL right now. That was, that was

Speaker 1 a huge take.

Speaker 1 Dumb, but dumb. Like a lot of these takes are dumb, but that was just plain dumb.
And I have no problem saying that.

Speaker 1 Who do you think, is there anyone that, and I know you don't watch, you watch basketball when you can. You got a very, very busy life.

Speaker 1 Is there anyone in the NBA that jumps out to you? Just be like, oh, that would be a great.

Speaker 1 That person could play football. When someone says that, they think of LeBron, right? Obviously, because he played high school football and

Speaker 1 did not play football. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 So, like, the point is, is you can't just look at someone who's big, fast, and strong and can jump high and just be like an athletic and be like, oh, they could play in the NFL.

Speaker 1 Like, it's just not, it's just like, it's just because you can run fast and maybe you have good hand doesn't mean like. You just can't do it.

Speaker 1 Like, we saw Draymond Green at Michigan State, who's a great athlete, I think, line up for their spring game.

Speaker 1 I think he even went out and said, he was like, I want no business getting tackled across the middle.

Speaker 1 So, and honestly, like, and I wouldn't make the argument that there's 30 NFL guys that could play in the NBA. I'm not that stupid.

Speaker 1 Like, I just, the crossover, it doesn't just automatically cross over. So, I mean, you've had more guys like,

Speaker 1 obviously, like Julius Pepper's Hall of Famer played at UNC, was good. Tony Gonzalez, Tony Gonzalez,

Speaker 1 Antonio Gates, Antonio Gates, Graham, Jimmy Graham.

Speaker 1 Charlie Ward literally was a Heisman Trophy winner, and then he actually went to play in the NBA for like, for your Knicks for like 15 years. Yeah.
He was a point guard forever.

Speaker 1 I have to say there's 30 guys. I mean, that was the, that was honestly like, and that got a lot of, that got a lot of legs.

Speaker 1 I always thought Russell Westbrook, I don't know if he cares of getting hit or not, but just like, I could certainly see a world where Russell Westbrook was like a receiver, you know,

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 you've seen like Mahomes tape and you've seen like, have you seen Travis Hunter's highlights?

Speaker 1 I did. You know, I watched that last night and it's so amazing and also discouraging in the same breath.
It's amazing because you're watching him and it's like, how is this guy not

Speaker 1 considering the nba just and it was a highlight tape so freak but it's discouraging because just like that is that is dna that who no one in my family's ever gonna get if we're talking we're talking cold takes you gotta you gotta think right coward kellerman skip skip it i mean skip steph stephen a nick wright is is is an up and comery who's your who's your all-time all-time guy that's hard well i give it to skip because he

Speaker 1 he sort of helped create taking, you know, like takes. But I mean, look, that's been going on in Sports Talk Radio forever, too.

Speaker 1 But he made it performance art and hooked up with Stephen A. The funny thing with Skip as Barstool and PMT did like such an amazing job.

Speaker 1 They made him re-litigate his old takes and he still got his fastball.

Speaker 1 But the

Speaker 1 truly believes everything he says.

Speaker 1 All you need to do, Matt, in my opinion, is be right on one of these wild things.

Speaker 1 Like if the Bears went to the Super Bowl, Nick Wright has like two years of a victory lap where he could now start saying anything and he can pull that car. Skip was

Speaker 1 the, I think, the only person I could recall who was screaming about Tim Tebow. He deserves to start.
He should start. He's a great quarterback, play, build around Tebow.

Speaker 1 And the Broncos did, and they won some games and then they won that playoff game. They won the playoffs against the Steelers.
He got so much run out of that. So that's really the performance.

Speaker 1 If you just hit one of these truly big takes, then you have a few years ahead of you of just, you know, you could pull that card at any point.

Speaker 1 I had, I didn't, it wasn't really a take, but I was thinking about this. Like, have I made, because for me in college football,

Speaker 1 you try to be critical, but you're doing it in a way where you're not like, like, these are also kids. I also was, well, I also was in their shoes.
I was an athlete.

Speaker 1 I was, I was the victim of probably ice cold takes but um i try and like you try and be critical but you do it in a positive way is is the way i look at that now you got to be opinionated you got to do all these things so there's one

Speaker 1 fan base in particular and it wasn't it was kind of like yours i don't i i don't think it would be i wouldn't be charged with a freezing take but the minute link and riley left Oklahoma in the fashion that he did,

Speaker 1 really, really, really pissed off the Oklahoma fanbase. Yes.
And they got a lot of little bad blood because, you know, I beat them by 50 back in the day and they're still upset.

Speaker 1 But so they were talking so much shit to me. I'm like, why are you talking shit to me? I didn't do anything.
Okay. And it was like going on for months when Lincoln came over.

Speaker 1 And it started to piss me off. I'm like, all right.

Speaker 1 Now, truthfully, I don't care what they say about me online, but like, I was like, all right, now I'm going to just start engaging with these people. Right.
Let's do this. Like, let's do this.
So

Speaker 1 it wasn't necessarily a take, but all I did, all I did, they finished, I think, six, or I don't know, the first year they had a new coach, Brett Metables, who I love. I had nothing to do with him.

Speaker 1 They were bad. This was like three years ago.
I think we were like four and a five and seven. And all I did was like hashtag karma, right? So I was just trolling, right? Karma.

Speaker 1 And they're like, well, that's not what karma means, and blah, blah, blah. And I tell you not.
And I was just saying, like, this is karma for you guys talking so much shit to me about USC.

Speaker 1 And this was the first year Lincoln went 11 and and 2 with Caleb Williams. And still to this day, every week that USC loses, my X timeline is just hashtag karma from Suitor Stance.

Speaker 1 They have been trolling me now for two straight years, dude. It is the greatest thing.
So it doesn't stem from a take, but it is one of those things that has made a particular fan pace not like me.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 all I basically respond is like, I just love living rent-free in their head. Like, I just live rent-free in their head.
I could care less. And you got to keep that going.

Speaker 1 That's not to me, that's not, yeah, that's not even a take. That's just, that to me is the cool part of social media and sports where you can have these interactions.

Speaker 1 And it's a little hostile, but it's online.

Speaker 1 They're so serious. They're so, they're so like to respond.
And like, they, they need to know that. Like, I genuinely do not care in my day about what they say to me about USC or Oklahoma.

Speaker 1 I just love engaging with them because it gets them so mad.

Speaker 1 Well, and we have, I forgot to tease that

Speaker 1 a little later, we have a good buddy of mine, Justin Kroll, who is a Michigan native, lives in L.A. now, big Lions fan.

Speaker 1 I made the mistake of talking trash about the Lions in Thanksgiving, and I felt for a second what it's like for a fan base to turn on you on Twitter. It's not a great feeling.

Speaker 1 It goes away quickly, fortunately. And Justin, you should know, is a film reporter for Deadline.
We're going to do some Hollywood awards coming up in a little while.

Speaker 1 We're going to do it like sports awards. That's going to be good.
But more importantly, are you ready for my next freezing cold take? Yes.

Speaker 1 This one, this is a good conversation because I don't think this one is fully frozen yet. I think it's starting to freeze, but there's a little slush.
There's a little liquid.

Speaker 1 Trey Wingo, love Trey Wingo, Sports Center all those years. I'm a fan of Trey Wingo's tweeted, I love Mike Tomlin, but this decision to start Russell over Fields looks disastrous.

Speaker 1 Now, I think he was probably reacting to the first half of the Russell Wilson tenure in Pittsburgh, but it does bring a obviously

Speaker 1 Steelers are in great shape. So that's why it's not a fully frozen take.
This could go bad still. But I don't know if you and I ever talked truly.

Speaker 1 Did you feel like that was the right move at the right time? The Russell Wilson, Justin Fields thing?

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 yes, because I and mainly because people always say this, like Justin Fields, a great kid, rooting for him, obviously, talent, needed a fresh start, all those things. And by the way, was winning.

Speaker 1 Okay. They were winning.

Speaker 1 But nobody knows what's going on

Speaker 1 in those walls, in the practice, in the game plans more than Mike Tomlin and the coaches, right? So they see these guys every day.

Speaker 1 So my whole thing was like, we know what Russell Wilson is. He had a great year, honestly, last year for Denver.
I mean, he just, he and Sean Payton didn't get along, but his numbers were there.

Speaker 1 Like he actually had a pretty good year like he was still playing at a high level and you just knew based on what the steelers offense was with fields and how limited they were but they were figuring out ways to win low scoring games couldn't throw the ball that well we could do we could okay we're gonna we're gonna get rid of probably that some of these explosive run games with the quarterback play but we're gonna be so much more balanced and dynamic overall i just i i didn't i didn't look at it like how could you do this like i just felt like we kind of know what russell wilson can do and he's experienced.

Speaker 1 And he came off a really good year last year. So it wasn't, it wasn't a shock to me.
And it wasn't an indictment on Justin Fields.

Speaker 1 It's just like they're very limited with what they can do in the past. Yeah.
I mean,

Speaker 1 quite frankly, that was it. So, oh, yeah, Trey Wingo, I won't say this is our only one that's sort of freezing.
You're starting to freeze.

Speaker 1 And I think the next two months will tell us truly if it's a frozen, freezing cold take.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well, I mean, and at the 10, I don't know the record, but what were they like? Four and one or three? I mean, they were winning.
Yeah, they were still winning.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was a little bit of like, man, you just keep rolling with them because you like how dynamic. But it's like, they just never really,

Speaker 1 it just, the offense just, it is what it was what it was. You know, like you were very limited with that.
And at some point, you got to see what you have in Russell, you know? So.

Speaker 1 Do you have any more or should we hit a few quick ones? Or are you, was that your free, was that your limit? I mean, I think I would put, yeah, I'm done. I mean, like, Ryan Hollins is up there.

Speaker 1 Ryan Hollins has had some just boneheads, like saying Giannis was overrated a couple years back. And like,

Speaker 1 I don't know. I'm just some of these guys.
All right. I want to just do a quick one.

Speaker 1 It's not from 2024, but this is almost in honor of Belichick in North Carolina going to UNC.

Speaker 1 It's our boy, Dan Orlofsky. We love Dan.

Speaker 1 Dan has to give a lot of opinions every day. This one is from 2021, so it's very unfair.
And I love Dan. Him and I bantered a lot about Daniel Jones, which I was very wrong about.

Speaker 1 Dan Orlovsky Orlovsky believes Bill Belichick will win another Super Bowl with Mac Jones at QB.

Speaker 1 Mac Jones is the best rookie QB that I have ever seen since doing the job when it comes to knowing where to go with the football, when to go with the football, and how to throw the football.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 Again, he by the way,

Speaker 1 that's going up on all social platforms with the tag of Daniel. We're just going to roast him.
I forgot he was very high on Mac Jones. That's right.
I remember that.

Speaker 1 I had such a fun trajectory to him because he hated the Daniel Jones pick. I defended it.
Then it looked like he was right. He took a little bit of a victory lap, but then it switched back.

Speaker 1 He like apologized

Speaker 1 sort of, even to me on Twitter, like after the Vikings win. He's like, I was wrong.
I was wrong. But just to show you how fickle this take thing is, he's back to being right just like that.

Speaker 1 And one year later, he's back to being right. But I love Dan.
He's almost as almost as bad as his food takes. I don't know if you know his food takes, but God, they're bad.

Speaker 1 His food takes are bad. And the last one for me, before we move on to more positive stuff, this is a per, this is my personal one.
Austin Hedges, catcher on the Guardians, Orange County.

Speaker 1 Respect the Guardians, had a big awesome series versus the Yankees. He did interviews that some, I don't, I don't remember with who.
Might have been just with MLB, where he's saying that Klase

Speaker 1 is the best pitcher he's ever seen. Go look at the numbers.
He's better than Mariano. He's better.
He's a better closer than Mariano Rivera.

Speaker 1 And then he went on to to blow two saves and take another loss in that ALCS. So love you, Austin Hedges, but don't be so quick to put people in the Mariano Rivera category.
And that's it.

Speaker 1 So those are some of our freezing cold takes, being that it's freezing outside here in Ohio. There's a ton more if we ever need that.

Speaker 1 Now, I want to switch things over to something a little more uplifting and give you our defining moments from 2024, brought to you by NHTSA.

Speaker 1 Matt, what were some of your defining moments in sports from 2024 well you phrase it that way i should have should have thought of something different i'm going no this is whatever you want it to be i'm going with my dodgers

Speaker 1 and the the defining moment was freddy freeman's walk-off in game one

Speaker 1 in extra innings at home at the chavez okay that was set the tone

Speaker 1 moment that set the tone yeah but when you go back at this playoff run 3-2 division series over the padres which was the real series of their playoff playoff.

Speaker 1 That was like the winner of that was probably going to win the World Series, right? That was the toughest one. And just now our bitter rival, 4-2

Speaker 1 NLCS win over the New York Mets, and then 4-1 over the Yankees World Series. I was at game five, as people know.
Freddie Freeman's moment,

Speaker 1 Shohei hurting his shoulder moment.

Speaker 1 Oh, no. Like, you could hear, like, are they screwed? Like, what happened? Blake Trining pitching three in game five to shut him out staying in there.

Speaker 1 When Dave Roberts goes out and says are you all right he goes lead me in just like gives and that awesome inning for you guys

Speaker 1 yeah and then yeah the defining moment of the Yankees forgetting how to feel the ground ball uh walker Bueller coming back off however many days rest to close it and then

Speaker 1 not to get too uplifting here, but then the FaceTime with my dad after was my final moment, man. It is like, as we, we, we joke, we have fun, we like, we do these takes, whatever.

Speaker 1 But like to have that experience and that moment with my pops who was watching it and I was there was like, you know, like the last one was was

Speaker 1 2020, obviously kind of different. The last one was really Gibby's home run in 88 when I was five years old.
It brought so much joy. This one brought so much joy to our family, man.

Speaker 1 So, and by the way, we're gearing back up to make another run in 2025. So that is

Speaker 1 baseball's back. So my defining moment, I thought long and hard about this in sports, and I didn't want it to just be

Speaker 1 a New York one. I tried to really think about it in sports.
What was the defining moment?

Speaker 1 And the one that stuck out to me because it meant so many things than just, oh, that was a great thing for that person.

Speaker 1 But the USA basketball gold medal, but particularly Steph Curry. It's really Steph Curry because he had a lot of defining moments in the NBA.
He's a Hall of Famer.

Speaker 1 We all know everything we need to know about him.

Speaker 1 But just to have that one moment where it was with LeBron and with AD and all those great players to be the guy and then doing the putting, you know, putting them to sleep bit, I just thought for me, just when he was starting to taper off a little bit in the NBA, the Warriors won that championship.

Speaker 1 And since then, you could see he's starting to, you know, the age is setting in. It's just happening.
He's still amazing.

Speaker 1 And hopefully, we need to appreciate him for however long he has left in the NBA.

Speaker 1 But that moment in that gold medal game where he just went off, that to me sticks out more than the Chiefs winning the Super Bowl or the Knicks stealing game two. Those are my honorable mentions.

Speaker 1 So, Steph Curry, gold medal game, putting them to sleep is my defining moment of 2020. I think it probably,

Speaker 1 like, he was the greatest shooter of all time, won multiple rings. Like, he, he's maybe top 10 player of all time, however you look at it.

Speaker 1 Everyone, a lot of people think Magic's the best point guard of all time. I think that, to your point, it just, it, it just notched him up another level and how you look at him, right?

Speaker 1 Because USA Olympics, you think of Jordan, you think of the dream team back in the day. We've had kind of an up and down run of basketball teams in the last 20 years.

Speaker 1 On that team, LeBron's final run, KD's probably final run.

Speaker 1 You know, Ant, like who's taking the torch was the whole thing, right? Who's the next? And Steph just kind of reminding everybody, like, hey, don't forget about me.

Speaker 1 I will go down as maybe a top five player of all time. Like, like, like you could argue that now, now that he has that, um, that hardware in that moment.

Speaker 1 That's well, when they run his Hall of Fame reel and he has hundreds of moments, but you could rest assured, either very early or at the very last moment you might see is going to be that putting them to sleep moment.

Speaker 1 So, we're going to come right back with Justin Kroll, senior reporter for Deadline. And we're going to do some Hollywood acting awards, but not traditional.
We're going to make it sports adjacent.

Speaker 1 We'll be right back with Kroll.

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Speaker 2 I'm doing good.

Speaker 2 You not only text me, you used to be the guy that was like the four friends that if the Lions lost in heartbreaking fashion, you would just text like brutal or like, oh, I'm sorry, man.

Speaker 2 Like, you were of that group, and it was like instantaneous. There was like a Bears game where they lost like heartbreakingly.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's 10 seconds after.

Speaker 1 How do you, how do you, by the way, my best friend is a die-hard Lions fan as well.

Speaker 1 She grew up in Detroit and she's like, she's, she's lived probably like you like the worst years the bad years she's always been a fan and obviously now the lions are are back and maybe the best team in the nfl um how do you how do you look at like the new fans like the bandwagoner fans does that piss you off or is it like

Speaker 1 hey come on board like we need we need all the help we can get Not at all.

Speaker 2 I mean, like,

Speaker 2 I like being a team that people are for, but like, I know where I've been in the mud.

Speaker 2 Like, to me, like, my favorite actually isn't the Lions lions fans that have just showed up it's like kind of these like the rams fans have started trying to start a rivalry because they just assumed that they got stafford they'd always be better and now we're year four of this trade and we've been three out of the four years had a better record than them and the playoffs but

Speaker 2 they did win the super bowl yes they listen they get that oh by all means they still have the trade one you guys are better yeah that's for sure but like my whole thing with them is is like because they're chirpy about the loss and i'm like don't be mad about the refs be mad that sean mcvay plunted the ball also speaking of the rams since i have to teach you guys a lesson since most of you started rooting for the team in 2020 yeah your your team made the super bowl by possibly the most egregious non-call in sports sports history they had to change the rules so stop with the refs what what call was that by the way i'm not a reference

Speaker 1 pass interference

Speaker 2 saints where he like the guy like oh that's true

Speaker 2 while the ball was in the air they changed the rule they checked they did that like you can review pass interference for like a year.

Speaker 1 And that so I feel like I always would text you because, like, I'm a Knicks fan, so I know what that mud you speak of is like, and I also know the PTSD that comes with certain teams.

Speaker 1 Lord knows you have it the worst.

Speaker 1 I, when I tweeted that thing about maybe we should take the Cowboys or Lions off Thanksgiving, who was the person, first person I heard from Kroll, like, yeah, man, great, we're finally good.

Speaker 1 You want to take us off Thanksgiving? What a friend you are. So I'm saying this in a, I am making this a non,

Speaker 1 we're taking superstition out. I'm barely going to mention the word.
Let's just say if, potentially, if the Detroit Lions make it to New Orleans.

Speaker 1 If they find themselves going to New Orleans around February for whatever their reasons are, does Justin Kroll purchase a ticket or get a ticket through various Hollywood connections? Yes. For sure.

Speaker 1 Like, you're there. There's money.

Speaker 2 I wouldn't even wait for someone to reach out. There's money put away that my wife does not know.

Speaker 1 You have a fun. By the way, more importantly, who's your plus one?

Speaker 1 Is it your wife or is it your buddy? Or is she with the kid? Is she

Speaker 1 she wouldn't go? I would say you're not bringing the wife to that. It would.

Speaker 2 I don't know because, like, again, my dad and brother are not as I'm the biggest Lions fan I know. I'm not trying to like oversemphasize.
It's just, I own that too.

Speaker 2 I enjoy being in LA and just being like that guy.

Speaker 2 I don't, I'd go by myself, probably. Like, that's where it's at.

Speaker 1 I really save a little money, too. Well, I like

Speaker 2 so expensive. Like, I don't even know who I would.
I mean, listen, Jerry, if you were like, I'm going, let's do it. But I wouldn't want to put that pressure, but I will be there.

Speaker 1 I have

Speaker 1 to be there.

Speaker 2 I've been to eight Rose Bowls, by the way. My first Rose Bowl, I saw John Navarre play Mr.
Matt Leinart.

Speaker 1 There you go.

Speaker 2 So I've been to World Series.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like that.

Speaker 1 We played in Arizona together. Oh, really? Yeah, he was.

Speaker 1 He was there. He got drafted there, I think, two years.
Yeah, two years prior to me.

Speaker 2 I think he played the Lions, actually.

Speaker 1 He might have been in Detroit.

Speaker 2 That's too funny.

Speaker 2 I've been to World Series. Sam, I've done everything but like the Derby and Super Bowl.
And I said, I will not go to a Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 Even when it was in LA, I'm like, I'm not going until my team's in it for the first time. So that means something to me.
So yes, there's a fund.

Speaker 2 I'm sure some people would also like feel like they would want to help me, but I have the.

Speaker 1 I would.

Speaker 1 I know, but. I want to put this out there.

Speaker 1 I went to my first Super Bowl last year. The Chiefs win in Vegas.
I've been to other Super Bowls, but I always left before the the game.

Speaker 1 I'd go attend the parties, win a Beach Bowl MVP, and then get out of there before the game. But I went and did some content for Bet MGM.

Speaker 1 If so, if all these potential weird things happen, and if the Lions had found themselves in New Orleans, you for sure, if I had to, I would be like, you know what, Carl, keep that fund going.

Speaker 1 Put it to the kids 529. Anyone that's watching this, let's go.

Speaker 2 Get to me fast because I'm going.

Speaker 2 Listen, I don't want to be blamed for a jinx, but I may have been looking at like flights to Vegas.

Speaker 1 We should stop now. We should stop now.

Speaker 2 Last year, I may at halftime been looking during that Niners game because I was working quickly.

Speaker 1 I think

Speaker 1 I've already said it. This isn't, I already said Lions Bills, Super Bowl.
That's what's going to be. I've been saying that for a long time.

Speaker 2 I'm just enjoying this season, by the way. Like, everyone that's watching the Super Bowl, like, I just want to appreciate it because it's like a really once-in-a-lifetime.

Speaker 2 Like, everyone talking about this is the first time they've ever been favored. They, like, if they win one more game, it's the most in team history.
All these things.

Speaker 2 I'm just like, it truly is probably one of the best teams.

Speaker 2 And we're talking about Red Wings and those Pistons teams from the 2000s, the Tiger Road, the Scherzer Verlander teams, you know, Michigan 97, like Michigan last year, some great Izzo teams.

Speaker 2 But this, I, I wasn't, I don't consider the Bad Boys teams my team, but because I wasn't really watching teams till I was seven, but this is, from a regular season standpoint, easily the best team I've watched top to bottom.

Speaker 1 Well, let's just say for me, there's there's always, there's a few teams every now and then that I'm like, you know, it would be really nice if this team won. The Cubs for me were one.

Speaker 1 Obviously, my Knicks are one for even if I wasn't a Knicks fan, you feel right.

Speaker 1 And the Lions for sure, for sure in the NFL are the team I'd be most happy for their fan base, having no affiliation other than being friends with you.

Speaker 1 We wanted to do something fun today as we're doing our year in review.

Speaker 1 I kind of prepped everybody earlier, but I want to look at film and a little television and just movies in hollywood in a different way kind of cross it over with sports instead of saying like the best actor was we're going to do some categories i think the categories we came up with are our rookie of the year

Speaker 1 which also it It's funny, Matt Damon has the famous quote of, yeah, I was an overnight sensation after trying to get into a movie for 10 years, right?

Speaker 1 It's like, even though they're rookies, we're basically just saying our younger actors who are on the rise, even though they might have been doing it for a while.

Speaker 1 Then the one I'm most excited for is comeback actor of the year. We've talked about it with NFL, like who's going to be the comeback player of the year.
It seems like that award is getting locked up.

Speaker 1 Perfect example. Like I thought Travolta in pulp fiction is example number one of what a comeback actor.
And then last but not least, we have male-female MVP.

Speaker 1 And that criteria, which we're leaving totally up to you, to me, it's like, yeah, performance in movies. It's a little box office success.
It's maybe things they have set up.

Speaker 1 So I'm excited to see what you have today. But before we get to the awards,

Speaker 1 I took my two kids alone last week. Bree was working.
I took them to see Moana too. And you're someone I text a lot about movies in general.

Speaker 1 One of my prouder days is when you broke the story of I was going to maybe play Arturo Gaddi. That movie didn't happen, unfortunately.
Kroll wrote a glowing article.

Speaker 1 Strahan was producing. You wrote a glowing article about how I'm going to get, I'm a perfect person to play Arturo Gaddi.
And the movie fell apart. Did you tell him to do that too?

Speaker 1 just so you can get some more, you know, I don't know. I didn't.

Speaker 2 I mean, sometimes you want to add some juice to these stories, but

Speaker 1 a little juice.

Speaker 2 Well, Jerry didn't.

Speaker 1 I was like, did Jerry text you? Brad Slater. Brad Slater probably, probably.
Matt knows Brad Slater well. It's a Brad Slater special.
So,

Speaker 1 you know, you have a young son as well. Matt has two young sons.

Speaker 1 So it really hit me when I was at the movies. Like I gave each kid like a little bag of popcorn.
I was ready to leave at any moment.

Speaker 1 I'm like, the minute this turns back, especially with my little guy, my you'd have to, I was ready to go. You've taken your son to like premieres almost, right? Of movies he really wanted

Speaker 1 something with like special screening, six premieres.

Speaker 2 He's he's over 20 movies at this point.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, what's is there a secret? Like, how did you master? Because now that's your son's thing is movies now, right?

Speaker 2 I mean, he's into everything, toys, right? Wrestling moves off our couch, like he made

Speaker 2 almost five, so it's it's uh, it's a lot.

Speaker 2 But, um, I have three rules for taking a kid these days to the movies we took him to light year in 2022 he's like two and a half years old wow i really i was like all right we're gonna do this i want to see how it goes and the three

Speaker 2 three rules i did again i have one kid compared to the multiple for you so that makes it slightly easier the first rule is find the earliest time possible like in our we're we get we're lucky we have like theaters that do like 930 shows even like

Speaker 2 just know if you go to that show, there's there's absolutely only people with kids who are afraid that they're going to freak out too. Everyone is in the same wagon, you're in the same train.

Speaker 2 So, let them and just know, just let them do what they want to do.

Speaker 2 If they want to sit on the steps, they want to run around a little bit, as long as they're not screaming, like just kind of everyone's more accepting of

Speaker 1 images. There's a lot of people in a 9 a.m.
show as well.

Speaker 2 It was, it was empty. I mean, again, this is like COVID.
It post-COVID, I mean, he was boosted and all that stuff, but like, you know, everyone was still kind of nervous to do it. But, like, right.

Speaker 2 No one there. And even since then, like every time I go, it's like a family, maybe.
Like, that's the best time.

Speaker 1 That's a good rule. I like that.

Speaker 2 Second rule, snacks. Snacks, snacks.
Sneak them in, buy them, do what I don't care about. Like, all

Speaker 2 the snacks and a drink. And just like make sure he knows and maybe make sure he has a diaper if he doesn't.
He's high trained or just go to the bathroom before you enter that thing.

Speaker 2 And the third rule is you have to be willing to leave at any moment.

Speaker 1 Like if he's like, I'm out, I need to go.

Speaker 2 The money's nothing. You just need to go.
So, he's been good the whole time. He's done everything from, I took him to Red One, which is like probably the most adult thing he's been.

Speaker 1 Red One, yeah.

Speaker 2 Just to see how he would do.

Speaker 1 It's been the more premieres than I have.

Speaker 2 That wasn't a premiere. That was just, that was the busiest screen he went to.

Speaker 2 He went to the Moana premiere.

Speaker 2 Like, this kid's so spoiled. We did a screening of Despicable Me, which is just like you go.
It's on the, it's just the media screen that they call it. Right.

Speaker 2 He walks out and he's like, where's the party at, Dad?

Speaker 1 Oh, the app. He wanted to know what the after party was.

Speaker 2 Because two weeks earlier, he went to Inside Out 2, and there was an app,

Speaker 2 and it was like a bash. Like it was Disney threw it right to the point where he's jaded ever since.

Speaker 1 Dude, I'm going to have to call you to get on some of these lists.

Speaker 1 You should, Matt. Oh, you should.

Speaker 2 Oh, I can.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'll at least point.

Speaker 2 Listen, if you emailed one of these people that's like, oh, Leinhart, I would at least put my name on it and then explain

Speaker 2 this as Matt Leinhardt.

Speaker 1 The hard part for two, I mean, is like my boys, I took them to see.

Speaker 1 what are the ages, by the way. So almost five and three and a half.
So we're basically

Speaker 1 that my wife took them to Moana 2 in Miami a couple weeks ago.

Speaker 1 She said they did great. I took them to Cosm.

Speaker 1 Have you guys heard of COSM? Yeah.

Speaker 1 So like it's in LA.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's pretty cool, right? So it's like this interactive

Speaker 1 thing, Jerry, where you're kind of in a movie theater, but it's like plays a sporty. It's like you're like you're sitting front row into like an NBA game.
It's like this Spears.

Speaker 1 Spears perform. Yeah, so they have one in Dallas, I think.
Yeah. So I took him to see Cirque de Soleil, which was like the only thing they could really do.
And

Speaker 1 this was a month ago, and they loved it up until the last 20 minutes. And then, and that's when, that's when they just start beating the shit out of each other.

Speaker 1 That's like, just like they get a little restless. Switching hour, like Scott Hanson.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 When I went, it was, I went to Texans Lions for it, and there was a ton of families there. You do have to buy a ticket if you want.
Like it's a breakdown.

Speaker 2 Like there's a standing room for 20 bucks, which I did because I just wanted to see how it was. There's like a $70 one and then $125.
And like the families are there.

Speaker 2 Like it's, it does have, it's not like a rowdy bar situation.

Speaker 1 We did a whole couch. I mean, we did a whole couch.
It was awesome. It was cool.

Speaker 1 I feel like

Speaker 1 Jerry and I don't know if Jerry was going there with this, but I feel like movies.

Speaker 1 I feel like they're making a comeback like going to the theater. And

Speaker 1 I just feel, I hear it more more from friends are like oh we went to the movies this and it's not necessarily just like Disney movies right because a lot of our friends are in the same boat I just feel like it's hey we're gonna go have that experience like we all had growing up which was amazing is that something that you're seeing It will never get back to 2019, like Avengers breaking the all-time box office record, but animated movies, especially, like the families are fine, like Inside Out is like broke animated records.

Speaker 2 Like it broke frozen. Like that's where that is, where like the like, like, I think families are finally over the COVID of it all.
They want to show it.

Speaker 2 And I think people just got tired of watching stuff at home. Like, like, like, I don't know about you, but like, getting out of the house is just so,

Speaker 2 so important in general. Like, we've we, like, that's the weekend is where I'm just like, how do I make sure he does not lose his mind in this time? Like, do I go to the park?

Speaker 2 Do I go to, like, I have a universal pass, but like, the movies are, I'm always looking for that. And I feel like you saw it on Thanksgiving weekend.

Speaker 2 It broke a record, 132 million between Moana, Wicked, and Gladiator 2.

Speaker 1 Gladiator 2.

Speaker 2 So everyone, that's a demographic right there when you have it. So I definitely see it coming back in that way.
Animated films, especially, because there was like a time, Lightyear I brought up,

Speaker 2 there was,

Speaker 2 it bombed. No one showed up.
And that seemed like such a slam dunk. And that was like, maybe families just don't want to go anymore.
And between Moana, Despicable Me did really well.

Speaker 2 I mean, families showed up for Deadpool. You don't make make $1.3 billion if you don't show, even though it's an R-rated movie.
Like, at least teenagers were going.

Speaker 1 It's such a like, like, I mean, gosh, it's, it's so cool because it gives them, Jerry and I were like, it's something to look forward to, right?

Speaker 1 Hey, we're going to the movie on Saturday, whatever it is. We're going to go see Inside Out 2.
Like, the boys get so excited now.

Speaker 1 And that's how it was for me growing up because we didn't have a lot of money. It was like going to a sporting event.

Speaker 1 Like, we would go to like one Lakers' nosebleeds game a year, and it was like our Super Bowl, you know, like these guys.

Speaker 1 Like, your kids ask of where the party is after a movie, which is like, you know, that's the world. That's, that's like how we're raising our kids because we're fortunate we get to do these things.

Speaker 1 I just, I, I, I don't know. I feel like it's kind of coming back, which is so awesome because it's such a, it was such a part of my childhood, like like getting your popcorn.

Speaker 1 Like it seems so simple now, but it's like, I'm tired of just streaming shit every night. And like, hey, we'll lay on the couch.
Like, let's go to the theater. Let's get candy.
Let's get a Coke.

Speaker 1 Let's like, let's do an outing. You know what I mean? Like, and I, I'm hoping it's coming back.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I mean, like, it's like how I grew up too.
It was like with my dad, like go to the movies with my dad and go to a college football game with my dad.

Speaker 2 Those were like infused in my blood, which is why college football is such a big thing. It's my wife's a huge college football fan, too.
Um, and movies, I'm, I still like love taking.

Speaker 2 I'm not jaded by this job. I still really love it.
So that, that plays a huge part too. And I want my kid to enjoy that as well.

Speaker 1 Have you seen a lot of the

Speaker 1 more the non-kid movies this year? Like, have you, you, you've kind of ripped

Speaker 1 I used to get all the screeners back in the DVD generation. That was the cool part of being in SAG.
They don't WGA.

Speaker 1 They don't really do it because they just, yeah, and you get digital links or, but again, like you and like Matt said, I watch stuff at home on the couch.

Speaker 1 I'm asleep 10 minutes in and it's no offense to what I'm watching. I can't stay awake past 10 o'clock.
So what problem?

Speaker 1 I would say, and everyone said two things, really.

Speaker 1 Everyone, you know, the mantra has been within Hollywood, survive till 25 right for the movies you know there's a lot there's a good setup for 2025 which i want to ask you about in a second but what have you seen this year that you would say for all right you don't want to you don't have kids or you want to you and your partner are going to go to a movie what would you suggest i mean i just kind of closed my i saw like a hundred movies this year between theater at home and like the plane like not 100 theatrical like theaters i have closed my top 10 i would say Dune was my favorite film of the year.

Speaker 2 I thought that movie was awesome.

Speaker 1 I'm halfway through the first one. I'm watching at home.
I fell asleep, but not because of the movie. It was,

Speaker 1 it was midnight.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's, I was,

Speaker 1 that's your, that's your boy. Tim, that's my boy, Tim.
We've, we've talked on this show. Oh, yeah.
We'll get to him and download Chalamay in like 20 times on this show. I'm so high on him.

Speaker 2 Well, you'll like my, you'll like some of my awards.

Speaker 1 All right. Dune.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 2 the Bob Dylan film with Tim.

Speaker 1 So all right. Okay.
Bob Dylan film. That was Bob Dylan.

Speaker 2 I mean, if you like Walk the Lions, the same director, James Mangold.

Speaker 2 I think it plays very similarly. Like, it's like,

Speaker 2 I was engaged the whole time.

Speaker 2 And just Tim, Monica Boero, who plays Joe Baez, Edward Norton. Boyd Colbert is Johnny Cash.
I want to see that movie now because he's so good at that.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Really good.

Speaker 2 There's this film called September 5th that's coming out soon.

Speaker 1 Yes. I've heard a little

Speaker 2 bit of a whole Munich games were covered when the terrorist situation happened from the ABC desk. Awesome.
It's like, it is like one of the better thrillers of the year, the way they did that.

Speaker 2 Those are like the big three.

Speaker 1 That's the big three?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I would say. I don't want to.

Speaker 1 Did you see Gladiator 2 yet or no?

Speaker 2 That's four.

Speaker 2 I was so entertained by that.

Speaker 2 It will never be the original. And it's just like, it's just so hard to hit classics.
But like. Denzel is in his role.
I think Mezcal is a star.

Speaker 2 And they were just going for it with some of those action scenes. So that was on my list.
And then, like, TV Wise,

Speaker 2 Presumed Innocent was my favorite show.

Speaker 1 That was great. That was a great one.

Speaker 2 I like Disclaimer 2 on Apple. And then

Speaker 2 the recent season of Industry, which is that like London, like financial show.

Speaker 1 HBO Finance.

Speaker 1 So behind. Lights out.
So behind. Did you watch?

Speaker 1 You'll breeze through that. Did you watch Shrinking?

Speaker 2 Love that show.

Speaker 1 That's, I think, my wife and I's favorite.

Speaker 2 That's a show where it's similar to Entourage, where I feel like I'm seeing my friends again when it comes back on like i love all those characters like i'm relating to those characters so much the first season i i kind of love more this one like got almost a little dark at times where i was like kind of like turned off but i understood where they're going rick goldstein edition i thought was great um like kind of rooting for that character but yeah i mean harrison ford is so good in that like prodigy isn't it so it's i feel like it's so it's such a

Speaker 1 Every time I watch it, it's such a strange, like to see him in that show, right? Because I think of him as Indiana Jones. Like, I just think of him as like this, I don't know, but he's great in it.

Speaker 1 He's been fantastic.

Speaker 2 The pivot he's done recently with some of the TV stuff because that's the one that the Yellowstone spin-off as well, which I like him in. But yeah, he just kind of just fits perfectly.
And he does.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 2 he's not, he's a professional on the show, but he does have the, if you watch his interviews, he kind of is that character a little bit with this, like,

Speaker 1 I'm so excited to become a grumpy asshole, man. I don't know.
I feel like I've been born and raised to to get to that point in life.

Speaker 1 We're going to do something. That's what you have to look forward to, Jerry.
Well, Matt and I have been talking offline. Like, we're going to

Speaker 1 do these segments where, you know, Matt also has an older son. I have a 16-year-old nephew and their sports takes are just psychotic at times.
But it's like the old versus the young.

Speaker 1 So that is going to be a segment on throwbacks for sure.

Speaker 1 We're going to have the main versus young.

Speaker 2 I say this all the time. The people that grew up in the 80s, 9, and 90s just had the best childhood.
The sports were better. The TV shows were better.

Speaker 2 Everything was just, these kids don't know anything. I'm showing Jax all the like, like the Batman animated series and whale spin and all that stuff.
I don't want Coco Mill and Bluey in my house.

Speaker 1 Tailspin, so good. Tailspin.
I love that show. Do we bring we brought back like

Speaker 1 All Dogs Go to Heaven, which, by the way,

Speaker 1 sad movie, but like we brought, we brought in some of like brought some of those 90s movies back for our kids, and they love it. But it's like, I did back to the face of the future.

Speaker 1 You're going to sit down and watch this.

Speaker 2 I did Back to the Future over Thanksgiving, and he was engaged in the second one. Like, he was really, I don't think he was following, but he definitely found the visuals.

Speaker 2 And that was like a moment for me.

Speaker 1 Do you know what live-action one played well in my house? Air Bud.

Speaker 1 That's good.

Speaker 1 Airbud played really well. My five-year-old was just like, this is hilarious.
And right after he was like, dad, let's go play basketball.

Speaker 1 I'm like, this is how I had to inspire you to watch a dog play basketball. This is what makes you want to play hoops.

Speaker 2 This, this, um, this uh, his favorite one live action is probably Godzilla King Kong right now.

Speaker 1 Like, he, he thinks your kids, your kids are going to be Quentin Tarantino. He's watching everything.

Speaker 2 Well, I've been like, he's getting a little bit more scared of things here and there. So, like, I'll actually screw with him.
I'll do like

Speaker 2 Disney randomly does their Hulu thing. So, like, the alien movie is on like the up, and I'll

Speaker 1 click on Alien and he'll freak out. Like, no, don't put it on.
I freak out. I feel like Godzilla King Kong's a little bit aggressive for

Speaker 1 a five-year-old.

Speaker 2 Probably.

Speaker 1 My five-year-old would love it. My three-year-old would be terrified.
My five-year-old doesn't care.

Speaker 2 I mean, again, I gauge a little, I mean, the best story I have of like, not of all time, but like I would have like the TV on in the background and like Fear Fest was on. And they would just put like.

Speaker 2 all sorts of horror films on at all points day. I was doing dinner.

Speaker 1 I can't watch that.

Speaker 2 And Jax just comes up. He was probably three.
He goes, Daddy, the dude with the weird fingers is on right now. He kind of looks scary.
I look up, Freddy Cougar is just chopping somebody up.

Speaker 2 And I was like, click, I got to change that channel.

Speaker 1 I can't watch that stuff now.

Speaker 1 Before we move on to some awards, what is coming in 25 that is that mantra, survive till 25? Like,

Speaker 1 what are things that we know are coming?

Speaker 1 And then second part, you, I always kind of say, like, I don't want to quite do the one for one, like your shams in Hollywood, but you, you know, you have to break stuff.

Speaker 1 You put the, when I know Kroll on Twitter puts, what do you put? A bomb usually? Like you're going to drop a bomb. Incoming, right?

Speaker 1 When Justin puts incoming, you know, you're getting some massive casting news. So what are the things that you know are coming that you're excited about in 25?

Speaker 1 And then what are the things that you are working on? Again, you don't have to give away any trade secrets, but the things you hope break in 2025, one way or the other.

Speaker 2 Oh, some stuff coming out.

Speaker 2 A lot of, so the reason it was called Survive the 25 is that you had the dual writing acting strikes, and they had to push films out because actors couldn't promote their movies.

Speaker 2 So like Challengers was supposed to come out in September of 23, came out in April 24. And then all the movies in 24 pushed to 25.
So you only had one Marvel movie this year, for instance.

Speaker 2 It was Deadpool. Huge hit, but like that just never has happened in recent years.
Next year, we have three. We have a new Captain America with Anthony Mackey taking over the shield.
Right. Because

Speaker 2 they switched that in the TV show.

Speaker 1 I love Mackey. I've gossiped Mackey.
He's hilarious. Oh, he's the best.

Speaker 2 I know his bandre. I've hung out.
He always calls me Detroit because he's done some Detroit movies. So he's like, hey, hey, Detroit.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, he's in 8 Mile, right? Eight Mile.

Speaker 2 Well, he also filmed a bunch. I think Real Steel, that Hugh Jackman movie with Sean Lee Levy on there.
He's been in Detroit a couple times. All right.
So there's that.

Speaker 2 There's Thunderbolts, which is like Marvel's version of Suicide Squad, which is like Florence Pugh's character. Yep.
Winter Soldier all teamed together.

Speaker 2 And then the big ones, Fantastic Four, finally getting rebooted with Pedro and Vanessa Kirby and Joseph Quinn and the Johnny Stormroll. And then you'll, I mean, the summer is stacked.

Speaker 2 There is the new Jurassic World movie with Scarlett Johansson coming out. There is the Superman movie coming out that everyone's pretty excited about.

Speaker 2 Brad Pitt has this F1 racing movie that they've been teaching.

Speaker 1 I saw when I was

Speaker 1 so when I was just in Vegas for F1,

Speaker 1 my room had a view of the track. And at like two in the morning, I just hear,

Speaker 1 and I wake up, I open the shade, and there's cars flying around, and there's like some guy standing in the middle of the track. I'm like, what the hell? It's Brad Pitt.

Speaker 1 They were filming like reshoots for the F1 movie. Well, they were doing pickups.

Speaker 2 Their whole thing was like because it had to push because of the strike, they had to to get these additional shots.

Speaker 1 So, that was one of the things. I watched them filming that from my hotel window at 2:30 in the morning.
I went to room service and watched it.

Speaker 2 And then you have another avatar film also coming out, too, at the end of the year. And then, um, the one I'm actually excited about, really, is Sinners.

Speaker 2 It's Michael B. Jordan and Ryan Kubler reuniting on like a vampire movie set in Jim Crow South.
It looks fantastic. He plays twins in it.
It looks awesome.

Speaker 1 Oh, he plays dual roles.

Speaker 2 Dual roles.

Speaker 2 That's an adult. That's a date net movie that I would suggest.

Speaker 1 Right. Leave.
You're going to leave the the kids at home for a while. And then

Speaker 2 there's a How to Save You Dragon live-action movie that I think is like, that's something Jax is getting into is that movie.

Speaker 2 It's a great movie. A couple Pixar films.
Zootopia 2 is going to come out, which will probably be a good thing.

Speaker 1 So we got a big, this is a, it's a big, 25 is a big year coming. Yeah, everything.
If this goes well,

Speaker 1 I won't say we're back, but we'll say, okay, we now know officially what movies and box office is like. This is how it functions now.
I'm excited for that Harry Potter show. Is it true?

Speaker 2 i read the deadline article too i think one of your uh co-workers wrote about just the secrecy of the i worked on that you worked on that story oh yeah yeah um it's it's like one of the most tight-lipped projects that's a nolan movie it's the hardest thing to find news out about right now um because it's done in london it's harder to track and the ndas on it like it's just crazy crazy but i i'm the nice thing about that is like if you read any books they leave so much up from the movies because there's so much detail that i actually think this will work um for a new generation kind of thing because like the people that like watch those movies are just me and matt's age now so like uh and jerry's sorry i'm older than i'm a lot older than you guys matt hates when i say i'm a lot older than four years old

Speaker 1 we're in the same dick we're in the same i'm a whole high school person older that is yeah when you're a whole high school i guess when you put it that way yeah you're old

Speaker 1 yeah like we you wouldn't have gone to school with me and that's um that's or i might have been a senior you guys would have been a freshman i could have picked on you guys like days and cafu matt was six five

Speaker 1 I was gonna say, I was nine inches taller than you when I was eight years old.

Speaker 2 What grade were you in the Rose Bowl against Navarre?

Speaker 1 Uh,

Speaker 1 I was redshirts. So I graduated high school in 0-1.
Oh, two years older. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, so that's about okay.

Speaker 1 I just turned 41 in May. Okay.

Speaker 2 All right. So that, yes, similar.
Yeah, so we know similar TV shows from the 90s.

Speaker 1 Of course. Well, 2025 looks incredible.

Speaker 1 But let's talk about 2024 and do some awards now. Okay.
We thought through this.

Speaker 1 We know the format. Do you have the order you'd like to go? Well, you want to do rookie comeback and then the rookie comeback.
Okay, so let's hear it.

Speaker 1 So we got first one's going to be our rookie of the year for actors, which I think is a great way to look at actors.

Speaker 1 The Oscars should do this. Yes.

Speaker 2 So this one was a little tougher, but I went based on like the Oscar pedigree stuff. I'm going Mickey Madison from Anora, which is, oh, that's another film.

Speaker 2 If you, that's like the under-the-radar film. Yes.
It's excellent. Director Sean Baker, who's done a lot of these independent films that have popped at the Oscars.

Speaker 1 You'll know. She's from Once Upon a Time in Heroes.

Speaker 2 This isn't a rookie. This is her first big leading role.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 2 Everybody will remember her from getting like

Speaker 1 barbecued. She's the one that Leo barbecued with the Flame show.
Yeah, she's awesome.

Speaker 2 She's one of the Manson.

Speaker 1 But like, ironically, like that, those

Speaker 2 casts in that movie is Under the Radar awesome for unknowns. Like Sidney Sweeney, Austin Butler was one of those.

Speaker 2 Mickey, like Maya Hawk was like the Manson kids who go to like storm Brad and um Leo's house are like stars now was

Speaker 1 Sidney Sweeney one of the girls that did that she's one she opens the door for Brad to go when they go to the ranch you know when Brad Pay goes to the ranch Sidney Sweeney um also who did she

Speaker 1 Margaret Qualey yes it's like it really is you re-watch that movie and you're like this person that's the one who rewatched that movie yeah yeah I watched it on the plane to LA last month and I thought the same thing like wow Like, if you look at this, like, a rookie draft class, just this movie, there's first-round picks everywhere.

Speaker 2 It's the Lions last year class. Like, it's Gibbs, Laporta, and Jack Handy.

Speaker 1 Well played, Krull. Well played.
Okay, I like that. That's a great call.

Speaker 2 She's fantastic. Try to find that.
But

Speaker 2 I think if I had, she is right there in the mix to win the Oscar this year, like that she's that good in it.

Speaker 2 So that would be, if you're, if you're in that sort of category, you get rookie of the year if it's your first big leading role.

Speaker 1 Damn.

Speaker 1 Hospital, and that'd be huge. All right.

Speaker 2 Was comeback.

Speaker 1 Comeback active year, my favorite.

Speaker 2 This was interesting. I was trying to do it, and this person had a since COVID, they've had a couple theatrical things that just didn't hit as well.
And I'm going Jyllenhal, Jake.

Speaker 2 I think Roadhouse, I think, even though it didn't go theatrical, really had a moment in the springtime where everyone was watching it. It was the water cooler film.

Speaker 2 Everyone wanted to see it good or bad. Like, oh, I don't make this.
Oh, I want to see this.

Speaker 1 But he's jacked, of course.

Speaker 2 I think that movie played really well.

Speaker 2 And I think it was something that, like, I think it was the film that mainly streamed that did the best of everything that you remember in 24 and really popped again.

Speaker 2 And then, like, after that kind of died down, Presumed Innocent comes out. And that is the show of the summer that everyone was talking about.

Speaker 1 It was incredible. See what happened.

Speaker 2 I think he's going to be in the Emmy conversation now. He just got a Globe nomination.
So he, like, it wasn't like he was in like actor jail like Travolta

Speaker 2 before he did pulp fiction. But he had a couple bumps with ambulance and that guy Richie movie, just not having the same sort of pop at the box office.
This year, I think he really did well.

Speaker 2 And then next year, I actually just bought this, um, taking my wife to New York for her, it was a birthday present. We're going to go see Othello.
It's him and Denzel in the springtime.

Speaker 1 Oh, that locks it up. MVP.
Wow. So that's a homeback 12-month stretch right there where he's some might say that's almost an MVP bid.
Like, that's very Sam Darnold. Like, you could

Speaker 1 have the conversation.

Speaker 1 But that he could be MVP as well.

Speaker 2 We kind of already teased my MVP bitter from earlier because I named two of my three films. But we'll get there in a second.

Speaker 1 We'll get there because it's a sponsored segment as well. So we'll get there.

Speaker 2 And then you want to do the sponsor?

Speaker 1 Yeah. So, all right.
So this is how we set this up. Every week we do our Wendy's Can't Get Enough Sauce Moment of the Year.
I needed a drink of water anyway.

Speaker 1 And we try to figure out. Either usually it's with sports, a player or a team.
That's our saucy moment that we cannot get enough of.

Speaker 1 So for our male and female MVP, we're going to use that for our Wendy's Can't Get Enough Sauce moment of the week.

Speaker 1 So let's go first with, let's do men first. Who is the male MVP actor

Speaker 1 of 2024? The gentleman. Check.
MVP.

Speaker 1 It's Chalame.

Speaker 2 If you go from year to year, people forget Wonka was a year from now. That was $625 million at the box-ups.
And that owned basically the first two months of of the year.

Speaker 2 When nothing was really coming out, that made its money. He got like a Globe nom for that, I believe.
Yep. And it's like, it launched a new franchise for him.

Speaker 2 Then that film dies down and Dune comes out, which is like basically

Speaker 2 until Inside Out. Huge.
It's going to be in the Oscar race now. Obviously, not everyone's going to see that because of him, but like without him, I don't think the film is necessarily working.

Speaker 2 And then this complete unknown, I think he's getting an Oscar nom for. He's fantastic in it.
It's going to come out Christmas.

Speaker 2 And kind of he he ate all factors he did the family film he did your temple and now he has this like acting piece that like really showed his stature I feel like and as we pointed out a few weeks back

Speaker 1 stellar sports knowledge for someone that

Speaker 1 by the way that was the most shocking thing I've ever seen that rounds out the MVP case this poor kid just because he goes to NYU everyone's like he can't be I know watch ball totally stereotyped him this kid is like a diehard sports fan like I mean the Ohio pick in the Mac championship was crazy because that was just like none of those guys on that board.

Speaker 2 I'm sure you're in that position, too, where you have to pick a game and you're like, I have no idea what I can't watch everything. Like that was nuts to nail that because they blew him out.

Speaker 1 How old is he? Mid-20s? Is he 27? 27, 20.

Speaker 2 I think he's later now, but he's harder for the Knicks thing that popped up.

Speaker 1 The Knicks thing was great. We talked about like hunting Landry Fields down in the middle of Manhattan somewhere to answer a trivia question to win tickets to the Knicks game.

Speaker 2 He also seems like a really down-to-earth dude. Like he went to the Timothy Chalamet look-alike contest and was like screwing with people.

Speaker 1 He's the MVP Kroll. You're right.
He is the male MVP. Wrap it up.
Give him the trophy. Clap it up.
And we'll see if he can go back to back.

Speaker 1 He's actually, he's 28. He's going to be 29 December 27th.
So under 30.

Speaker 1 He's Mahomes. He's got Mahomes.
Yeah. That's fantastic.

Speaker 2 It feels like he's been around forever.

Speaker 2 Well, that was interesting. He's at that game, and I forgot that he did Interstellar.

Speaker 1 I watched Interstellar last week on a plane, and he's in Interstellar. Yeah, so that's the other thing that's kind of cool.
All right, we got to get him on this pod, by the way.

Speaker 1 We have to make that happen. Now, who is our Wendy's Can't Get Enough Sauce female MVP actor? Oh, sweet.

Speaker 2 Ironically, he's his co-star. I'm Sindaya.

Speaker 2 I think she is it now.

Speaker 1 She is.

Speaker 2 And the big reason isn't just as of Dune, because, again, like that, you can't really base that on box office, but she's fan, like that, again, that was as much her film as it was Timmy's.

Speaker 2 I feel like this time around. But this film, Challengers, goes that the tennis movie, yes,

Speaker 1 90 million globally.

Speaker 2 And that film, like in this day and age, when a film like that

Speaker 2 was kind of done for streamers, but gets the theatrical thing, that's an impressive feat. And people were only going to that movie because of her.

Speaker 2 Sorry, Josh O'Connor and you and the Crown fans, Mike Face, no one really knew who you were. They showed up for her.

Speaker 2 And I mean, that doesn't seem like a huge number, but in this day and age, when that drama is just so hard to get people in theaters for, I think she locked that up too.

Speaker 2 And anytime she has something coming, people lose their minds over it.

Speaker 1 This A22, she's a superstar,

Speaker 1 yeah, and she still has like in the chamber. If they get to it, they have euphoria.
If they get to it, in the chamber, that's that's waiting. Can I tell you guys my MVP? My, yeah,

Speaker 1 I just actually want to get Justin. How about Glenn Powell?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean, like, I would have given it to him in 23.

Speaker 1 Well, Well, that's what I said. Like, I, Twister, Hitman, anyone but you.
I just, and then I think he's filming a

Speaker 1 popular.

Speaker 1 Chad Powers. That's true, Chad.
I just feel like he's like, he had a big year. Like, he's had a big couple years.

Speaker 2 I think I slightly give it to Timmy because just the

Speaker 2 Glenn is like runner-up, probably. If I had, if you had the runner-up numbers, he would be, he'd be getting first-place votes.

Speaker 1 He got a few first-place votes. Like from Miner, he got one.
That was my few first place votes.

Speaker 2 I would like to see him stretch it. I mean, listen, he's trying to build the movie star status.

Speaker 2 That one, like, I guess Hitman was kind of that, but the like film that like Timmy's like a Bob Dill, the Bob Dillon, of course, yeah, that really shows that acting range.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because I think he is a really good actor. I agree.
Justin, can't thank you enough. This, you know, we're trying to find friends of the show.
I think you're our first friend of the show.

Speaker 1 We want to have you back.

Speaker 2 One more. The saddest moment of the year was listening to the triple option and Urban Meyer talk about that Michigan, Ohio State game.

Speaker 1 That was the saddest moment of the year. Wait, did I say that? Shouts fired.
I love it.

Speaker 1 Wait, did you see? Did you see that

Speaker 1 in Ohio State lawmaker, the bill that he's proposing? He's a Michigan fan.

Speaker 2 He's trolling. He's a Michigan fan.

Speaker 1 Oh, really?

Speaker 2 He grew up in Ann Arbor or Toledo.

Speaker 1 That's what all of our school guys are saying. Don't go for it.
It's a troll. So he got me.
Flag planting.

Speaker 1 Flag is a felony. Flag planting is a felony.
I was like, how soft could you be? Oh, shit. I'm almost positive.

Speaker 2 Everyone was calling the guy out. Like,

Speaker 2 he's Ohio, but grew up. It sounds like he's a Michigan fan from all sense of course.

Speaker 1 Has to be a troll because, I mean, you can't take it so freshly.

Speaker 1 Freshly great. Oh, man.
Buddy, you're the best.

Speaker 1 I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 We'll get you back in 25 and see if we are surviving.

Speaker 1 Good luck to your Detroit Lions. I will not text you.
I'll just text you. Happy Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2 You can text me when you want. I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 And maybe we'll see you. Maybe we'll see you in New Orleans.
Maybe we'll do. Maybe the next episode we'll do.
Maybe we're all in New Orleans. Who knows?

Speaker 2 Well, hopefully my wife doesn't listen to this because then she's going to ask where that fund is hidden somewhere.

Speaker 1 Good point. Good point.

Speaker 1 Thank you, Justin. See you guys.
Later, buddy.

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Speaker 1 All right, it's time for money moments, one of my favorite new segments we're doing, presented by our friends over at Cash App, sending, spending, saving, splitting, tipping, donating, gifting, or just typing in numbers, all with the number one finance app in the app store.

Speaker 1 That's money. That's cash app.
So with this week, we're going to do it. So it's a team or a player or person that we are counting on to be money in 2025.
Matt, we're looking ahead.

Speaker 1 Who do you got for 2025? So I got two really quick.

Speaker 1 I can't believe it. I'm saying this.
Bill Belichick,

Speaker 1 big Bill in college football, taking over, you know, this month, obviously, the North Carolina head coaching job. And I think I'm excited for it.
Like, I don't know.

Speaker 1 Like, I'm still trying to process what he's going to be like on the sidelines for North Carolina in the ACC, how he's going to recruit high school kids.

Speaker 1 And I know it's built more like the NFL these days with NIL and all those things. And like, he's got his general manager and all this stuff.

Speaker 1 I get all that, but like just his coaching style and what he, what he brings to the game, how it's going to translate over into the college football level with a bunch of 18, 19, and 20-year-old kids that are now making a lot of money.

Speaker 1 I just think it's fascinating.

Speaker 1 I'm happy. You know, I think like he still goes down as one of the greatest to ever do it.
And now he's in the college football ranks. So

Speaker 1 that's one I'm looking forward to. And then the other one is a college football player named Arch Manning.

Speaker 1 I am excited to see, because I've seen him, he's played at times this year.

Speaker 1 I am excited to see the next Manning take over. And a lot of people say that he's probably the best athlete of all of them, which I would say he is.

Speaker 1 Obviously, chasing his two uncles, but

Speaker 1 Arch Manning, a lot of hype, great kid, will be the starting quarterback for Texas next year. I'm excited to see what he brings to college football.

Speaker 1 Yours are so good. I have to comment.

Speaker 1 Comment. Well, the Belichick thing.
First of all, I love that also Mike Lombardi is his GM, which have you ever used the term GM for college football before?

Speaker 1 It's all over college football now because you basically need a person that is a general that can build a roster.

Speaker 1 It's literally that, and that's part of the reason why Belichick,

Speaker 1 you know, when they were going through all these negotiations, there were a lot of points.

Speaker 1 Like, he wants to be a football coach, but he needs to hire someone that can handle all the other shit these coaches are dealing with. A lot of coaches are dealing with roster management.

Speaker 1 How do we pay? Like, they don't want to deal with that. They want to just call plays, X's and O's, and have other people, have a whole team.
So, that's how a lot of these teams are being built.

Speaker 1 And that's certainly how North Carolina is going to be built. The other thing I'm most excited for, like a lot of people, my favorite colorway for uniforms, sneakers, all that is Carolina blue.

Speaker 1 How do you not love that? So are we going to see Belichick in that ratty hoodie cut up sleeve, everything? But except it's going to be Carolina blue. With the Jordan logo.

Speaker 1 If they put Jordans on it, please, Bill Belichick. He's going to have to wear Jordans.
Please. I feel like he could put in this contract, I'm going to wear whatever shoes I want.
Don't bother me.

Speaker 1 Please come out with your ratty North Carolina blue hoodie and some tar heel Jordans. Oh,

Speaker 1 I'm excited for that moment. By the way,

Speaker 1 somehow we talk about Phil Knight with Oregon and all that Nike money. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't know how much money Jordan gives to UNC, but something tells me that that was probably part of this deal, that that collective is going to be a little bit bigger for North Carolina.

Speaker 1 That's going to be exciting. It's going to be crazy, man.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it is crazy to have Indiana playing good football. North Carolina's future looks for all the college basketball teams we've gotten so used to now penetrating the football world.

Speaker 1 I think it's really cool.

Speaker 1 Kansas football has been better. Like, it's, we talk about it all the time on the show.
Syracuse had a great year in football.

Speaker 1 Like, all of these traditional basketball schools, Duke had a great year in football. Duke won, gosh, nine games this year, eight games this year.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so it's cool, man. It's good for those schools, right, when they have both sports playing well.
And the Arch Manning, that's a great one.

Speaker 1 There's a part of me that really wishes he was coming out this year while the Giants, because I really would love him to be on the Giants. I just think it's a good idea.

Speaker 1 He needs a little bit of time, but that kid is going to be,

Speaker 1 I'm telling you right now,

Speaker 1 this is going to be my take. He will be the number one pick in the draft

Speaker 1 when he comes out.

Speaker 1 I think he's that good. And we've seen it this year.
We've seen the glimpses because he can run. He's big.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, the Giants draft was my number two

Speaker 1 for my money moment in 2025.

Speaker 1 My real money moment, though, and it's what every New York Knicks fan is thinking is, what is this New York Knicks team going to be like come April and May during playoff time?

Speaker 1 Because right now, it's been okay.

Speaker 1 It's been good. I think it's been just okay.
It's been okay. It's been just okay.
They've lost a lot of games to teams they should have be. They've lost to the Hawks twice.
They lost to the Pistons.

Speaker 1 Shout out Justin Crowley. He texted me right after that game.
You know, and a few signature wins. When it looks good, it looks really good.

Speaker 1 And they put up 130, which is also weird to see from a Knicks team to put up 130 points with Tibbs because they're so defensive. But it has not gelled yet.
And we are all in. This is the team.

Speaker 1 I mean, maybe there'll be a smaller trade, but they are all in. And the Knicks fans talk about freezing cold takes.
There's a lot of us, me included, coming into this season.

Speaker 1 You could look back in June and say, whoa, were all these meathead Knicks fans wrong. So for me, the thing I am looking forward to, I'm counting on, I need the Knicks to be money.

Speaker 1 So that is my cash out money moment. The New York Knicks coming through when it matters in April, May, and hopefully June.
And I just, I'm counting on,

Speaker 1 before we move on, I'm counting on floor seats for the Knicks. That's like that is.

Speaker 1 That is, okay, we're going to get into throwback three. We're going to do our New Year's resolutions, right? Our personal ones.

Speaker 1 But one of i just added one one of us to be courtsided madison square garden with you for a playoff game though i want a playoff game i don't wear would you wear a knick's hat or would you just stay neutral you stay neutral

Speaker 1 i'm not i'm not like yeah nix and knicks and lakers aren't even in the same conference so we're good okay i appreciate that But that, but that, that is a, that's a good one.

Speaker 1 All right, let's, let's do throwback three.

Speaker 1 So obviously we're wrapping up the year and, you know, we always do, I think in our house, and I'm sure you, we always do just New Year's resolutions, just goals, something we want to get better at, something we want to do more of, maybe something we want to do less of.

Speaker 1 So we're going to do throwback three top, our top three just New Year's resolutions. What do we want to accomplish in 2025? You start.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 And I love, I used to do this thing, you know, obviously I lived in LA 20 years. I would always fly home for Christmas.

Speaker 1 Christmas was the one holiday I could never miss in New York.

Speaker 1 But what I would do on the plane ride back home, because I'd always come home to LA for New Year's because that's where the party was for me.

Speaker 1 I would, on the plane, I would not necessarily do resolutions, but I would just write things down that I really wanted to accomplish. Small things, big things, whatever, in the same notebook.

Speaker 1 So the very next year on the flight back to New York for that Christmas, I would look back. I would get to look back in the year and be like, oh, I did this.
That's cool. I did this.
I didn't do that.

Speaker 1 So I encourage everyone, you know, write them down and then put them away where you remember and look at them and just see what happens. It might feel good to check some things off.

Speaker 1 But my number, my first one I want to talk about is my overall health. You know, I just turned 45 years old and I've definitely gained some dad weight.

Speaker 1 I'm not even talking about this from an appearance. I feel like I look whatever.
I don't even really care how I look. It's more for how I feel.

Speaker 1 Definitely, the other night at dinner, I got up. We were sitting down in a restaurant for two hours.
I stood up and I cramped up and had to take a knee. Like my left calf, my left calf seized up.

Speaker 1 I took a knee in the restaurant and everyone came rushing over. They thought I was having a heart attack.
So

Speaker 1 it's a pretty broad spectrum. You can't stop laughing.

Speaker 1 I'm getting a visual. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 I know this is serious. We did an escape room and then we went to dinner and I cramped up at dinner from the pressure of the escape room.

Speaker 1 So, you know, overall health in general, the things that will encompass that will be, you know, I'm 45 now, got to go get the colonoscopy.

Speaker 1 And I encourage every person out there, you hit that age, just do it.

Speaker 1 You know, we see James Vanderbeek now, who just came out with a diagnosis and he's pretty, you know, outwardly speaking up for screenings and all that.

Speaker 1 So I'm handling all that health stuff, but I mean saunas, cold plunges, stretching, yoga, just all those things to be functional.

Speaker 1 at 45 that is and be healthy for my kids okay so that yeah so actually i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna start with that one as well and i think because we're in the same boat right now, and I'm also having a baby here pretty soon.

Speaker 1 So like you can easily just throw it all for me with the health and fitness, every year I always try to be like, all right, just gym or this basic stuff.

Speaker 1 I really want to dive more into like supplements, vitamins.

Speaker 1 Like, you know, they do those blood tests where you can really, like, you can, like, you, you spend a little bit of money, but you really dial in like, hey, what, like, this is what's up with you.

Speaker 1 Like Damal was talking about. Exactly.
Exactly. Like something like that.
So like, I really want to, and again, and it all, it encompasses everything, right? Because I just want to feel better.

Speaker 1 I was laughing at you cramping because like my lower back hurts. My lower back hurts because of my new hips.
And I'm still trying to work. Like, like, I just want to overall,

Speaker 1 I want to be able to play pickup basketball multiple days a week like I used to, which I can because of my hips are new. But like, I want to stretch more.
I want to like.

Speaker 1 I like drinking functionality. I'm not going to give up.
I like, I like things like I like having a cocktail. That's fine.
I'm not going to, you know what I mean? Like, I like that. You know what?

Speaker 1 Like, I like doing those things. So I'm not going to deprive myself of that.

Speaker 1 But I think just overall health and awareness of my body then will allow me to be a better husband, be a better dad, like all of those things.

Speaker 1 Because like you said, like when we get older, man, when you hit 40, early 40s, it's like shit just stops working. You know, just like you gotta, you gotta die.
So that's, that's a big one.

Speaker 1 Um, and we should do, we've talked about this a little bit, we should do some type of like fitness challenge or something. Yeah, we should do that.

Speaker 1 I don't know if it's like steps on a whoop band or Peloton contest or what just you know weight loss doesn't really work because also we're not proportionate you know so yeah but you could do body mass we could do BMI so we should count we could do whatever we'll throwbacks challenge two things on that before we move on to the next one too my good buddy Mike Young who's a stand-up comic who also I played pickup with for years he had this great idea that I don't think ever happened but he wanted to do like a dudes

Speaker 1 weekend where first thing we do is we all go like five of us go to the doctor and we get we all get our colonoscopies, we get blood work,

Speaker 1 we get all this stuff. And when we get the clean bill of health, we party like crazy that week and celebrate our health.
I think that's a great idea for

Speaker 1 older dudes where

Speaker 1 let's go get the docs to look at us and basically give us a clean bill of health and go party. That, and I did.

Speaker 1 A 30-year-old dude rolled up on me on the gas station the other day. He was a big entourage fan.
He came up and he said, listen, I love throwbacks.

Speaker 1 I hope you beat beat matt in the three-point challenge which we haven't released just yet but he said i have a pickup game thursday nights and it's it's pretty low flat like low impact i think you could handle it so i'm toying with the notion of showing up to this random pickup game why i gotta get the health in order it's a perfect it's a perfect just re-entry back into basketball but i also you're walking in you i won't know one person it's this dude james at the gas station who had rolled up on me

Speaker 1 He might be walking into a fucking trap. Who knows? Who knows? All right.
All right, number two. My number two, and I have so many over here.
Okay.

Speaker 1 So this is not, it's health adjacent. It's in the same ballpark.
I want to get back into

Speaker 1 jujitsu.

Speaker 1 I started taking jiu-jitsu years ago with the Gracies at one of their academies. I got up to like yellow, like next belt.
I wasn't very good, but I did.

Speaker 1 And I want to take it because these frigging videos on Twitter, you ever, I mean, these street fight videos just pop up on my phone. I don't look for them.
I don't want to look for them.

Speaker 1 They're horrible, awful. But it also reminds me, everyone seems to know how to fight these days.

Speaker 1 And I always thought I knew how to fight, but I just want to get to a point where if someone's attacking me, I can get them to the ground and just disarm them.

Speaker 1 Or if I have to protect my wife or kids, I could just disarm them till help comes and just choke them out a little bit. Also, like jujitsu is like a badass workout.

Speaker 1 It's also also badass to learn that type of stuff. But you do get hurt.
A lot of guys get nervous. Yeah, but like

Speaker 1 the mental toughness and preparation, all the stuff that that like gives you out, even outside of when you're just like in your hour workout, I think it's incredible. We try to put

Speaker 1 Kason in my four and a half year old in Jiu-Jitsu this summer for ton of these. A lot of kids do it, right?

Speaker 1 And he went for three months and it was like torture, dude. And like, I was so disappointed because he's in there and he's a big kid.
He's strong.

Speaker 1 He's, he's my tough, like, he is tough as nails, man, but he's not a fighter.

Speaker 1 He just, he doesn't have like my three-year-old is not as tough, but my, he will instigate, he'll punch you and he'll be like, you know, but he's like, he'll also cry more.

Speaker 1 Dude, this little girl in there was beating his ass. Just rolling him all over the place.
This little girl, half his size. And, you know, they're teaching at this.

Speaker 1 He doesn't know what he's doing, but they're teaching him, like, like, like, like, throw her down, grab her leg, throw her down. Like, he could, he was just like this.

Speaker 1 And I'm on the corner like, Jason, punch her, man.

Speaker 1 Punch her they're telling you to put like you know like that and he just couldn't and he would cry going in there finally and and honestly it was josie josie's like we're taking them say that babe at what point do we just stop so that was our intro to jiu-jitsu but for you as a 45 year old grown man i love it buddy yep what's your next one

Speaker 1 all right so this one's kind of it's not generic but uh be spontaneous i want to be yeah more spontaneous and i think that one's always kind of lives in our house but more so because we're having another baby and a lot of this just like it just you know like we're gonna have three under five we have a teenager who's going into a senior year like it's just gonna be a lot and it's really hard as you know like when you have babies even you have little kids like it's not about you anymore and that's fine it's about your your kids but just not going and this my advice to all new parents but for us too

Speaker 1 it's just not getting sucked into the vortex of like the baby life and we never leave the house and we're just become that couple and like then things things suffer like and like it is really important for me to make sure that we just continue to like do those things it might be taking one kid it might be taking just the baby and leaving the two it might be right whatever that means it doesn't matter it could be going to the park it could be just going to like but not getting sucked into like that tornado of like a new newborn phase um and then just in general like just being spontaneous like like you know like hey let's go do this like why not like who care you know like not just getting stuck in that mode i think that's going to be a big one for both of us.

Speaker 1 I think, too,

Speaker 1 a lot of families that have second and third kids, or even one, but they just are on the go. I think they do subscribe to that.

Speaker 1 And that third kid, I feel like, always ends up being the chillest one because they're just used to being like, oh, they'll nap anywhere. They'll eat anything because you're just on the go with them.

Speaker 1 It's a really good setup for my last one. The problem is we've had our first two have had like severe acid reflux problems, like severe stomach issues.

Speaker 1 So, like, they'd actually have to go to like the doctor for it. And they couldn't sleep on, they couldn't sleep on their back.

Speaker 1 They couldn't sleep on their back for a year. So, like,

Speaker 1 our, our, our boys were really, really tough babies, in particular, Cannon.

Speaker 1 So, like, obviously, they were for the most part healthy, but they did have those issues that the doctor was like, they will grow out of. But for that first year, they were just miserable.

Speaker 1 So, we're just like, yeah, I mean, healthy, happy, whatever. But, like, that would be nice, like, if the third is the easiest one.
Well, the ones I'm putting on

Speaker 1 for my own personal list based off of this show is: one, I want to go to the movies more if I could get that to happen in 2025.

Speaker 1 And two, I'm going to, I'm full commit to baseball after just talking about Sodo and all these. Like, I'm just next year, it's full commitment.

Speaker 1 I will make time for baseball, but that's not my last one. My last one is off of what you just said, and it's not a done deal.

Speaker 1 I am putting a maybe in front of it. my last resolution is

Speaker 1 potentially expanding the ferrara family and adding a third potential

Speaker 1 i'm considering it i'm heavily considering it we just threw that out in the universe that's right that is out that lives brie is going to hear that i'm going to make sure she skips this episode she is going to hear that dude well i'm going to wait to see how it goes with you first so i got some time i'm going to i'm going to be getting live intel from you by the the way, in the fact that myself, by the way, the fact that you said that means it's going to happen.

Speaker 1 There's no going back once you go that far over the line. You know, didn't you? By the way, just expand the tribe, bro.
Just expand the tribe. I'm de-emphasizing.
I'm de-emphasizing

Speaker 1 just how hard it's going to be. And I'm just trying to go with the flow a little bit.
Yeah, you can't think about it. You just got to go.
And you just, as my wife always says, oh, we'll be fine. Okay.

Speaker 1 I will fully say as we wrap up, and I hope everybody out there has their list. I will say you have been an influence in that department.
And I will say if Brie and I do have a third child,

Speaker 1 you and Josie are, by the way, this podcast happening is a big reason why the third kid happened because I've followed your journey too as we get to know each other doing this. So I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 And maybe, maybe Matt or maybe Josie are, they are great names. True.
Well, Matthew, give us a middle name, Matthew. I have one more.
I have my number. Yeah, I want your last one.

Speaker 1 By the way, that one, we should end on that because that's fantastic.

Speaker 1 This one, this is universal. This is to all the parents out there

Speaker 1 and really anyone. Quality over quantity.
And

Speaker 1 for me, I've been really bad ever like the last two years, like on my phone, I'm guilty as anybody, right? I'm like my 18-year-old. I'm just like, and a lot of it.

Speaker 1 honestly can be work related because of the jobs we do and we're surfing we're like social like it is part of my my life but i've really thought about this and like just

Speaker 1 i told my wife the other day i'm like man like 20 minutes with my boys without a phone is better than an hour with my boys with me being on my phone you know what i mean and like when you look at it that way you're like man if i give them or like every night i put them down i pretend i'm like this crazy monster for five minutes and like they live for that and it makes and then sometimes i'm like man like i don't feel like doing but i'm like this is the greatest literally three minutes that they want all night and it's just that quality that they'll always remember right so not to get too serious there but like quality over quantity man like quality quality time is the most important thing i think as we're getting older with our kids friends family um putting the phone away uh enjoying enjoying five minutes with a five minute conversation with your wife or your husband or your kid goes a goes a long way when you're fully present and and and you have that quality time.

Speaker 1 So that's, that's my, that's my universal message, man, to everybody. That's a great way to go out, man.
Yeah. And I've really made a conscious effort of it this last couple months.

Speaker 1 And that's my biggest goal next year. I love it.
Well, cue up the music to take us out. I want to wish everybody a very, very happy New Year's.
We have a lot of amazing sports. in 2025 coming our way.

Speaker 1 We're a few months out from the Super Bowl, basketball playoffs going to get going. And then next thing you know, we'll be at spring training in February.
So 2025 is looking bright.

Speaker 1 Thanks to everybody who listened. Don't forget, follow follow us at Throwback Show on all social media platforms and subscribe to us on YouTube.
And let's go. 2025.
Let's go. Can't wait.
Peace.