2024 in Review: The Year in Bad Takes & Unforgettable Moments + Justin Kroll’s 2024 Film Awards

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What's up? Ice is going to be the key of today's show. What a year, buddy.
What a year. What a year.
We talked about doing this episode where we do a year in review, which a lot of people do. So we wouldn't be the first to do it, but we're certainly not going to be the last.
But when we were talking, it became, you know, instead of just pointing to the things we know were so amazing, like Dodgers or the Knicks, why don't we take a look back of 2024 and find what went wrong? The freezing cold takes and big shout outs to the account on twitter or x or whatever you call it these days freezing cold takes or at old takes exposed because that was a big resource for us but we're gonna pull some of the freezing cold takes from 2024 and review them i'm laughing because so excited like there's it's so exciting but there's like just three or four dudes who just fill up like i'm like when you're like diving into this you're like oh he said that oh he said that again oh this guy there's like four or five guys there's there's some good ones i i don't even know where to start i feel like personally i'm gonna start i'm guilty of this because we on one of the very first shows,

I think we did a bet about me saying the New York Jets were going to make the Super Bowl.

I'm pretty sure.

And we were talking about.

Did you say that?

No, I think I said you'd have to make an AFC championship game for you to wear like a.

Oh, that was the safest bet in the house.

It was the dumbest.

And honestly, so I'm on record basically as one of these idiots who had a freezing take. I'm going to I'm going to stay on that.
I'm just going to start this off with my boy, Peter Schrager. OK, oh, no, I love Schrager.
So Schrag's my dog. And he and we'll get him to comment on this.
He's my boy. I love Schrager in 2024 early in the season Aaron Rodgers is my pick for the 2024 NFL MVP by the way I'm sure there were hundreds of people who were going to say that what he's about to do for the Jets fans this season is something even he couldn't grasp or foresee no oh no and he's he's by the way he's he's worn out this take all year for sure.
But that's my fun. I just, because I love Schrags, that's one of my takes.
I mean, how bad have the Jets been? It's just been bad. It's arguably the freezingest of freezing takes.
Yeah, it's by far the worst take of 2020. Now, I'm going to dive into, before I do, I just want to say,

what I would like to see happen today is also,

it is an homage to the take because as much as we're pointing,

and we're not clowning, but we're pointing to what everyone screwed up.

I've even been a victim of the old takes exposed account.

I was brought up on charges.

I made some take at halftime of, I don't even know if it was a knicks game or something i don't remember and immediately i got tagged 150 times at cold takes all that stuff and i i lobbied because i didn't think it was a take i just said oh i'm just reacting it's not i'm not giving an opinion and our our my friends at old takes exposed weighed in and they retracted the bad what was your what was your take i can't remember it was something it was just something like a team was shooting real bad might have been the knicks and basketball and i might have said something just like they're you know innocuous like there's just no way any team could win a game going three for 24 from the three-point line and And that team went on to win. It's like, I didn't say they were going to lose.
I said, if they continue to shoot this way, they're going to lose. And they didn't continue to shoot that way.
They heated up. So luckily they took me off that, but I'm going to dive into mine.
Well, my first one, but I just want to say takes are like performance art. And there are a few Mount Rushmore people.
I found the same thing as you that, wow. And I couldn't even imagine if every single day, five days a week, the job is to wake up and give a take.
Like, you know, you're on the road almost half the year and you're not doing takes. Right.
So I respect it Before I give i give the one i want to hang in the in the louvre as like a this one should go all time this is an all-timer and it's from a it's from an all-time goat so this is not a 2024 thing but yes colin cowherd who i respect because it's just him in the mic he does hours and hours week by himself, spitting out takes. But at halftime of the Patriots-Falcons Super Bowl, when the Pats were down 28-3, he tweeted.
I screenshotted this myself that I'm looking at. In the moment, he said, I would hold off on trading Jimmy G.
That was his tweet at halftime of the game. So he's definite Mount Rushmore.
Can I just follow that up on my Mount Rushmore? Yes. Do it.
When, when Max Kellerman came out and said, Tom Brady's fallen off a cliff, I believe it was, uh, that was July 18th. I looked this up July 18th.
Kellerman had a couple at a couple falling. He might be a Mount 18th, 2016, basically saying that Tom Brady has fallen off a cliff.
What year was this Super Bowl? This was 20, I'm getting the year, but 2016, this is when he said that. I think he went on to play, that's before he went to Tampa and then he won another Super Bowl.
That by far, Mount Rushmore of takes, basically. Well, he was 45 years old.
My first take I want to give is from a football player. And unfortunately, it's someone you know.
He also went to USC. But Caleb Williams texting fellow rookie punter, Torrey Taylor, hey, you're not going to punt too much here.
That's a good one. Lo and behold, the Bears are, I think, tied for second overall in total punts.
So that's a pretty, that wasn't even on frozen, freezing cold takes. That just was out there.
So Caleb, you're on the list for 2020. There's a lot, there's a lot of he's a FS1 colleague, Fox colleague.
Future Mount Rushmore. Dude, he's already there.
Cole Taker. In August this year, he basically picked the Bears to win the Super Bowl.
He picked them to win the Super Bowl. I don't think in his right mind when he said that, he actually believed that.
But that was one was one of his takes and another one of his takes I'm just going to stay in the same vein here and go to college football he basically said when it comes to Colorado football I'll take all the unders you want to sell me under wins yards blah blah blah they're never going to make a bowl game blah blah blah and obviously Prime and their son they went nine and three are they, you know, they're going to make a bowl game or they made a bowl game. Excuse me.
They were one game away earlier this year to get to a big 12 championship game. So, um, dead wrong on that one as well.
Yeah. Nick, Nick writes slow and again, respected.
He's on TV five days a week. It's definitely ratings.
People watch just to see what he's going to say. He's on the fast track to the Mount Rushmore.
Mine, and this is a guy I love. Again, we're not saying that these people aren't great at what they do.
It's just you can't find out about the take until a little bit after. Mike Greenberg of ESPN.
Love Mike Greenberg. Also, probably pretty miserable because he's a big Jets fan.
But here's one of his freezing cold takes. Absolutely everyone is on Alabama tonight.
Absolutely everyone is never right. Give the points.
Georgia. That was on September 28th.
We know that the final score was Bama 41-34. Mike Greenberg, you make the list this year.
There's some... How about...
Oh, you know, I was diving into this, and this one actually pissed off a lot of people. I can't remember if we talked about it on the show or not, but it was this year.
It was the Austin Rivers saying he can name 30 NBA players that can play in the NFL right now. That was a huge take.

Dumb, but dumb.

Like a lot of these takes are dumb,

but that was just plain dumb.

And I have no problem saying that.

Who do you think, is there anyone that,

I don't know, you don't watch,

you watch basketball when you can.

You got a very, very busy life.

Is there anyone in the NBA that jumps out to you?

Is there to be like, oh, that would be a great,

that person could play football.

When someone says that, they think of LeBron, right?

Obviously, because he played high school football

and in the NBA that jumps out to you would be like, oh, that would be a great... That person could play football.
When someone says that, they think of LeBron, obviously, because he played high school football. Who admitted that he could not play football.
Yeah, exactly. So the point is, you can't just look at someone who's big, fast, and strong and can jump high and just be an athletic and be like, oh, they could play in the NFL.
It's just because you can run fast and maybe you have a good hand doesn't mean like you just can't do it. Like we saw Draymond Green at Michigan State, who's a great athlete, I think line up for their spring game.
I think he even went out and said, he'd be like, I want no business getting tackled across the middle. So, and honestly, like, and I wouldn't make the argument that there's 30 NFL guys could play in the NBA.
I'm not that stupid. Like I the crossover it doesn't just automatically cross over so i mean you've had more guys like obviously like julius peppers hall of famer played played at unc was good tony gonzalez tony gonzalez antonio gates um gates graham jimmy graham charlie ward literally was a heisman trophy winner and then and then he actually went to play in the nba the NBA for your Knicks for like 15 years.
Yeah, he was a point guard forever. But to say there's 30 guys, I mean, that was honestly like, and that got a lot of legs.
I always thought Russell Westbrook, I don't know if he cares of getting hit or not, but just like I could certainly see a world where Russell Westbrook was like a receiver. You know, 6'4".
I mean, you've seen like like mahomes tape and you've seen like have you seen travis hunter's highlights i did you know i watched that last night and it's so amazing and also discouraging and same breath it's amazing because you're watching him and it's like how is this guy not considering the nba just and it was a highlight tape so freak but it's discour But it's discouraging because that is DNA that no one in my family is ever going to get. If we're talking cold takes, you got to think, right, Coward, Kellerman, Skip.
Skip, I mean, Skip. Stephen A., Nick Wright is an up-and-comer.
He's looming. Who-time all-time guy that's hard well i give it to skip because he kind he sort of helped create taking you know like takes but i mean look that's been going on the sports talk radio forever too but he made it performance art and hooked up with steven a the funny thing with skip as as barstool and andT did such an amazing job, they made him re-litigate his old takes and he still got his fastball.
But the thing is... He truly believes everything he says.
All you need to do, Matt, in my opinion, is be right on one of these wild things. Like, if the Bears went to the Super, Nick Wright has like two years of a victory lap where he could now start saying anything and he could pull that card.
Skip was, I think the only person I could recall who was screaming about Tim Tebow, he deserves to start, he should start, he's a great quarterback, build around Tebow, and the Broncos did. And they won some games.
And then they won that playoff game against the Steelers. He got so much run out of that.
So that's really the performance. If you just hit one of these truly big takes, then you have a few years ahead of you of just you could pull that card at any point.
I had... I didn't, it wasn't really a take, but I was thinking about this.
Like, have I made, cause for me in college football, right. It's, it's, I, you try to be critical, but you're doing it in a way where you're not like, like these are also kids.
I also was a, well, I also was in their shoes. I was an athlete.
I was, I was the victim of probably ice cold takes, but, um, I try and like, you try and be critical, but you it in a positive way is is the way i look at that now you got to be opinionated you got to do all these things so there's one fan base in particular and it wasn't it was kind of like yours i don't i don't think it would be i wouldn't be charged with a freezing take but the minute lincoln riley left Oklahoma in the fashion that he did, really, really, really pissed off the Oklahoma fan base. And they got a lot of little bad blood because, you know, I beat them by 50 back in the day and they're still upset.
Yeah, you did. But so they were talking so much shit to me.
I'm like, why are you talking shit to me? I didn't do anything. Okay.
And, and it was like going on for months when, when Lincoln came over and it started to piss me off. I'm like, all right, now truthfully, I don't care what they say about me online, but like, I was like, all right, now I'm going to just start engaging with these people.
Right. Let's do this.
Like, let's do this. So it wasn't necessarily a take, but all I did, all I did, they finished, I think six or I don't know the first year they had a new coach brett medibles who i love had nothing to do with him they were bad this was like three years ago i think we're like four and a five and seven and all i did was like hashtag karma right so i was just trolling right karma and and they're like well that's not what karma means and blah blah blah and i tell you not and i was just saying like this is karma for you guys talking so much shit to me about usc and this was the first year lincoln went 11 and 2 with kayla williams and still to this day every week that usc loses my x timeline is just hashtag karma from suitor's hands they they have been trolling me now for two straight years dude it is It is the greatest thing.
So it doesn't stem from a take, but it is one of those things that has made a particular fan page not like me. And all I basically respond is like, I just love living rent-free in their head.
Like I just live rent-free in their head. I could care less.
And you got to keep that going. That's not to me.
That's not, yeah, that's not even a take. That to me is the cool part of social media and sports where you could have these interactions.
It's a little hostile, but it's online. They're so serious.
They're so like to respond and like they need to know that like I genuinely do not care in my day about what they say to me about USC or Oklahoma. I just love engaging with them because it gets them so mad.
It's so funny. Well, and we have, I forgot to tease that a little later, we have a good buddy of mine, Justin Kroll, who is a Michigan native, lives in LA now, big Lions fan.
I made the mistake of talking trash about the Lions and Thanksgiving. And I felt for a second what it's like for a fan base to turn on you on Twitter.
Not a great feeling. It goes away quickly, fortunately.
And Justin, you should know, is a film reporter for Deadline. We're going to do some Hollywood awards coming up in a little while.
We're going to do it like sports awards. That's going to be good.
But more importantly, are you ready for my next freezing next freezing cold take yes this one i this is a good conversation because i don't think this one is fully frozen yet i think it's starting to freeze but there's a little slush there's a little liquid trey wingo love trey wingo sports center all those years i'm a fan of trey wingo's tweeted I love Mike Tomlin, but this decision to start Russell over Fields looks disastrous. Now, I think he was probably reacting to the first half of the Russell Wilson tenure in Pittsburgh, but it does bring a, obviously, Steelers are in great shape, so that's why it's not a fully frozen take.
This could go bad still, but I don't know if you and I ever talked truly. Did you feel like that was the right move at the right time? The Russell Wilson, Justin Fields thing? So, yes, because I, and mainly because people always say this, like, Justin Fields, a great kid, rooting for him, obviously, talent, needed a fresh start, all those things by that was winning okay they were winning but nobody knows what's going on in those walls in the practice in the game plans more than mike tomlin and the coaches right so they see these guys every day so my whole thing was like we know what russell wilson is he had a great year honestly last year for denver i mean he just he and sean payton didn't get along but his numbers were there like he actually had a pretty good year like he was still playing a high level and you just knew based on what the steelers offense was with fields and how limited they were but they were figuring out ways to win low scoring games couldn't throw the ball that well we could do we okay we're gonna we're gonna to get rid of probably some of these explosive run games with the quarterback play, but we're going to be so much more balanced and dynamic overall.
I didn't look at it like, how could you do this? I just felt like we kind of know what Russell Wilson can do, and he's experienced, and he came off a really good year last year. So it wasn't a shock to me, and it wasn't an indictmentment on justin fields it's just like they're very limited with what they can do in the past yeah i mean quite frankly that was it so oh yeah trey wingo yeah i won't say this is our only one that's sort of freezing you're starting to freeze and i think the next two months will tell us truly if it's a frozen freezing cold take yeah well i mean and at the tank i don't I don't know the were they like four and one or three i mean they were yeah they were still winning yeah it was a little bit of like man you just keep rolling with them because you like how dynamic but it's like they just never really it just the offense just it is what it was what it was you know like you were very limited with that and at some point you got to see what you have in Russell.
Do you have any more? Or should we hit a few quick ones? Or was that your list? I think I would put... Yeah, I'm done.
Ryan Hollins is up there. Ryan Hollins has had some just boneheads.
Like, say Giannis was overrated a couple years back. And like, I don't know.
Just some of these guys. All right want to just do a quick one it's it's it's not from 2024 but this is almost in honor of belichick in north carolina going to unc it's our boy dan orlovsky we love dan dan has dan has to give a lot of opinions every day this one is from 2021 so it's very unfair and i love dan him and i bantered a lot about Daniel Jones, which I was very wrong about.
Dan Orlovsky believes Bill Belichick will win another Super Bowl with Mac Jones at QB. Mac Jones is the best rookie QB that I have ever seen since doing the job when it comes to knowing where to go with the football, when to go with the football, and how to throw the football.
Wow. Again, he...
By the way, that's going up on all social platforms with the tag of Daniel. We're just going to roast him.
I forgot. He was very high on Mac Jones.
That's right. I remember that.
I had such a fun trajectory to him because he hated the Daniel Jones pick. I defended it.
Then it looked like he was right. He took a little bit of a victory lap, but then it switched back.
He like apologized sort of, even to me on Twitter, like after the Vikings win, he's like, I was wrong. I was wrong.
But just to show you how fickle this take thing is, he's back to being right. Just like that.
And one year later, he's back to being right. But I love Dan.
He's almost as bad as his food takes i don't know if you know his food takes but god they're bad i his food takes are bad and the last one for me before we move on to more positive stuff this is a per this is my personal one austin hedges catcher on the guardians orange county respect the guardians had a big awesome series versus the yankees. He did interviews at some...
I don't remember with

who. It might have been just MLB, where he's

saying that Class A

is the best pitcher he's ever seen.

Go look at the numbers. He's better than Mariano.

He's better.

He's a better closer than Mariano

Rivera. And then he went on to

blow two saves and take another

loss in that ALCS.

Love you, Austin Hedges, but don't be so quick to put people in the Mariano Rivera category. And that's it.
So those are some of our freezing cold takes, being that it's freezing outside here in Ohio. There's a ton more if we ever need that.
Now I want to switch things over to something a little more uplifting and give you our defining moments from 2024 brought to you by NHTSA.

Matt, what were some of your defining moments in sports from 2024? Well, you phrase it that way. I should have thought of something different.
I'm going- No, this is whatever you want it to be. I'm going with my Dodgers.
You son of a gun. The defining moment was Freddie Freeman's walk-off in game one

in extra innings at home at the chavez okay that was set the tone any moment that set the tone yeah but when you go back at this playoff run three two division series over the padres which was the real series of their playoff that was like the winner of that was probably going to win the world series right That was the toughest one and just now our bitter rival 4-2 nlc nlcs uh win over the new york mets and then 4-1 over the yankees world series i was at game five as people know uh freddie freeman's moment uh shohei hurt in his shoulder moment does oh no like you could hear like like are they screwed like what happened blake trine pitching three in game five to shut him out staying in there when when dave roberts goes out and says you're all right he goes leave me in just like and that awesome inning for you and then walker yeah and then yeah then the defining moment of the yankees forgetting how to feel the ground ball uh walker bueller coming back off however many days rest to close it and then not to get too uplifting here but then the face time with my dad after was my incredible moment man it is like as we we joke we have fun we like we do these takes whatever but like to have that experience and that moment with my pops who was watching and i was there it was like you know, like the last one was, was a 2020, obviously kind of different. The last one was really Gibby's home run in 88 when I

was five years old, when it brought so much joy, this one brought so much joy to our family, man.

So, uh, and by the way, we're gearing back up to make another run in 2025. So that baseball's back,

baseball's back. So my defining moment, I thought long and hard about this in sports,

This is a production of WGBH. up to make another run in 2025.
So that is baseball's back. Baseball's back.
So my defining moment, I thought long and hard about this in sports and I didn't want it to just be a New York one. I tried to really think about it in sports.
What was the defining moment? And the one that stuck out to me because it meant so many things than just, oh, that was a great thing for that person. But the USA basketball gold medal, but particularly Steph Curry, it's really Steph Curry because he had a lot of defining moments in the NBA.
He's a hall of famer. We all know everything we need to know about him.
But just to have that one moment where it was with LeBron and with AD and all those great players to be the guy and then doing the putting, you know, putting them to sleep bit. I just thought for me, just when he was starting to taper off a little bit in the NBA, the Warriors won that championship.
And since then, you could see he's starting to, you know, the age is setting in. It's just happening.
He's still amazing. And hopefully we need to appreciate him for however long he has left in the NBA.
But that moment in that gold medal game where he just went off, that to me sticks out more than the Chiefs winning the Super Bowl or the Knicks stealing game too. Those are my honorable mentions.
So Steph Curry, gold medal game, putting them to sleep is my defining moment of 20. I it probably like he was the greatest shooter of all time won multiple rings like he he's maybe top 10 player of all time however you look at it everyone a lot of people think magic's the best point guard of all time i think that to your point it just it it just notched him up another level and how you look at him right because usa olympics you think of jordan you think of the dream team back in the day we've had kind of an up and down run of basketball teams in the last 20 years on that team lebron's final run kd's probably final run uh you know and like who's who's taking the torch was the whole thing right who's the next and steph just kind of reminding everybody like hey don't forget about me i will go down as maybe a top five player of all time.
Like you could argue that now, now that he has that hardware in that moment. Well, when they run his Hall of Fame reel and he has hundreds of moments, but you could rest assured either very early or at that very last moment you might see is going to be that putting them to sleep moment.

So we're going to come right back with Justin Kroll,

senior reporter for deadline.

And we're going to do some Hollywood acting awards,

but not traditional.

We're going to make it sports adjacent.

We'll be right back with Kroll.

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We're welcoming in one of my good friends who also happens to be Deadline Hollywood senior film reporter and all-around Detroit, Michigan guy. You know, we talk a lot about sports.
I'll even text him during the Lions games. Justin, how you doing, buddy? I'm doing good.
You not only text me, you used to be the guy that was like the four friends that if the Lions lost in heartbreaking fashion you just text like brutal or like i'm sorry man like you were of that group and it was like instantaneous there was like a bears game where they lost like heartbreakingly yeah it's 10 seconds after how do you how do you by the way my best friend is a diehard lions fan as well she grew up up in Detroit, and she's like, she's probably like you. Like, the worst years, the bad years, she's always been a fan.
And obviously, now the Lions are back and maybe the best team in the NFL. How do you look at, like, the new fans, like the bandwagoner fans? Does that piss you off, or is it like, hey, come on board? Like shit, we need, we need all the help we can get.
Not at all. I mean, like I, I like being a team that people are, are for, but like, I know where I've been in the mud.
Like to me, like my favorite actually isn't the lions fans that have just showed up. It's like kind of these, like the Rams fans have started trying to start a rivalry because they just assumed that they got Stafford.
They'd always be better. And now we're year four of this trade.
And we've been three out of the four years had a better record than them. And the playoff.
But they did win a Super Bowl. Yes.
They listen. They get that.
Oh, I all means. They still have the trade one.
You guys are better. Yeah, that's for sure.
But like my whole thing with them is is like because they're chirpy about the loss. And I'm like, don't be mad about the refs.
Be mad that Sean McVay punted the ball. Also, speaking of the Rams, since I have to teach you guys a lesson since most of you started rooting for the team in 2020.
Yeah. Your team made the Super Bowl possibly the most egregious non-call in sports history.
They had to change the rules. So stop with the ref.
What call was that? By the way, I'm not a Rams fan. Pass interference.
P.I., right? Saints, where he like, the guy like, took off the receiver's head while the ball was in the air. They changed the rule.
They did that like, you can review pass interference for like a year. So, I feel like, I always would text you because, like, I'm a Knicks fan, so I know what that mud you speak of is like, and I also know the PTSD that comes with certain teams.
Lord knows you have it the worst. When I tweeted that thing about maybe we should take the Cowboys or Lions off Thanksgiving, who was the first person I heard from? Kroll.
Yeah, man, great. We're finally good.
You want to take us off Thanksgiving. What a friend you are.
So I'm saying this in a – I am making this a non – we're taking superst superstition out i'm barely going to mention the word let's just say if potentially if the detroit lions make it to new orleans find themselves going to new orleans around february for whatever their reasons are does justin kroll purchase a ticket or get a ticket through various hollywood connections yes for sure like you're there's money i wouldn't even wait for someone to reach out there's money put away that my wife does not know you have a fund by the way more importantly who is your plus one is it your wife or is it your buddy or is she with the kid is she oh she wouldn't go i would say you're not bringing the wife to that it would i don't know because like again my dad and brother are as. I'm the biggest Lions fan I know.
I'm not trying to, like, oversimplify. It just.
I own that, too. I enjoy being in L.A.
and just being like that guy. I don't.
I'd go by myself, probably. Like, that's where it's at.
I really. Save a little money, too.
Save a little cash. It's so expensive.
Like, I don't even know who I would. I mean, listen, Jerry, if you were like, I'm going, let's do it.
But I wouldn't want to put that pressure. But I will be there.
I have. We're going to be there.
It's I've been to eight Rose Bowls, by the way. My first Rose Bowl.
I saw John Navar play. Mr.
Matt Leinart. Oh, so I've been to the bar.
Yeah. We played.
We played. We played in played in Arizona together.
Oh really? Yeah. He was, he was, I got, he was there.
He got drafted there. I think two years.
Yeah. Two years prior to me.
I think he played the lions actually in Detroit. That's too funny.
Um, I've been to world series. Sam I've done, I've done everything, but like the Derby and, and Superbowl.
And I said, I will not go to a Superbowl. Even when it was in LA, I'm like, I'm not going until my team's in it for the first time.
So that means something to me. So yes, there's a fund.
I'm sure some people would also like feel like they would want to help me, but I have them. I would.
I know, but I want to put this out there. I went to my first Super Bowl last year, the Chiefs win in Vegas.

I've been to other Super Bowls, but I always left before the game.

I'd go attend the parties, win a Beach Bowl MVP,

and then get out of there before the game.

But I went and did some content for BetMGM.

If all these potential weird things happen,

and if the Lions had found themselves in New Orleans,

you for sure, if I had two, I would be like,

you know what, Carl, keep that fund going. Put going by the way kids 529 anybody that's watching this let's go get to me fast because i'm going i i listen i don't want to be blamed for a jinx but i may have been looking at like all right we should stop now we should stop now last year i may have time been looking during that niners game because like was working quickly.
I think I've already said it. I already said Lions-Bills Super Bowl.
That's what it's going to be. I've been saying that for a long time.
I'm just enjoying this season, by the way. Everyone that's talking to Super Bowl, I just want to appreciate it because it's a really once-in-a-lifetime.
Everyone talking about this is the first time they've ever been favored. If they win one more more game it's the most in team history all these things i'm just like it truly is probably one of the best teams and we're talking about red wings and those pistons teams from the 2000s the tiger road the scherzer verlander teams you know michigan 97 like michigan last year some great iso teams but this i i wasn't i don't consider the bad boys teams my team because I wasn't really watching teams until I was seven.
But this is, from a regular season standpoint, easily the best team I've watched top to bottom. Well, let's just say for me, there's a few teams every now and then that I'm like, you know, it would be really nice if this team won.
The Cubs, for me, were one. Obviously, my Knicks are one for even if I wasn't a Knicks fan.
My Knicks are on mine. Right.
And the Lions, for sure, for sure, in the NFL, are the team I'd be most happy for their fan base having no affiliation other than being friends with you. We wanted to do something fun today.
As we're doing our year in review, I kind of prepped everybody earlier. But I want to look at film and a little television and just movies in Hollywood in a different way, kind of cross it over with sports instead of saying like the best actor was, we're going to do some categories.
I think the categories we came up with are our rookie of the year, which also, it's funny, Matt Damon has the famous quote of, yeah, I was an overnight sensation after trying to get into a movie for 10 years right it's like even though they're rookies we're basically just saying our younger actors who are on the rise even though they might have been doing it for a while then the one I'm most excited for is comeback actor of the year we've talked about it with NFL like who's gonna be the comeback player of the year it seems like that award's up. Perfect example.
Like I thought Travolta and Pulp Fiction is example number one of what a comeback actor. And then last but not least, we have male, female MVP and that criteria, which we're leaving totally up to you.
To me, it's like, yeah, performance in movies. It's a little box office success.
It's maybe things they have set up. So I'm excited to see what you have today.
But before we get to the awards, I took my two kids alone last week. Brie was working.
I took them to see Moana 2. And you're someone I text a lot about movies in general.
One of my prouder days is when you broke the story of I was going to maybe play Arturo Gaddy. That movie didn't happen, unfortunately.
Kroll wrote a glowing article. Strahan produced it.
Strahan was producing. You wrote a glowing article about how I'm a perfect person to play Arturo Gaddy, and the movie fell apart.
Did you tell him to do that, too, just so you can get some more juice? Oh, no. I didn't.
I mean, sometimes you want to add some juice to these stories. A little juice.
Well, Jerry didn't. I was going to say, did Jerry text you? Brad Slater.
Brad Slater probably. Matt knows Brad Slater well.
It's a Brad Slater special. I love it.
You have a young son as well. Matt has two young sons.
It really hit me when I was at the movies. I gave each kid a little bag of popcorn.
I was ready to leave at any moment. The minute this turns back, especially with my little guy.
You have to. I was ready to go.
You've taken your son to premieres almost, right? Of movies he really wanted to see. He's been to like six premieres.
Six premieres. He's over 20 movies at this point.
So, yeah. Is there a secret? How did you Because now that's your, your son's thing is movies now, right? I mean, he's into everything.
Toys. Wrestling moves off our couch, like, almost five.
So it's, it's, it's a lot. But, um, I have three rules for taking a kid these days to the movies.
We took him to Lightyear in 2022. He's like two and a half years old.
Wow. I really, I all right we're gonna do this i want to see how it goes and the risky three rules i did again i have one kid compared to the multiple for you so that makes it slightly easier the first rule is find the earliest time possible like in our we're we get we're lucky we have like theaters that do like 9 30 shows like 11.
Just know if you go to that show, there's absolutely only people with kids who are afraid that they're going to freak out too. Everyone is in the same wagon.
You're in the same train. So let them – and just know.
Just let them do what they want to do. If they want to sit on the steps, if they want to run around a little bit, as long as they're not screaming.
Everyone's more accepting of – I of yeah imagine there's a lot of people in a 9 a.m show as well it was it was empty i mean again this is like covid post covid i mean he was boosted and all that stuff but like you know everyone's still kind of nervous to do it but like right no one there and even since then like every time i go it's like a family maybe like that's the best time. That's a good rule.
I like that rule. Second rule, snacks.

Snacks, snacks. Sneak them in, buy them, do what I don't care about.

Keep them snacking. Snacks

and a drink and just make sure he

knows and maybe make sure he has a diaper

if he doesn't. He's probably trained or just

go to the bathroom before you

enter that thing. The third

rule is you have to be willing to leave at any moment.

If he's like, I'm out, I need to go. The money money's nothing you just need to go so he's been good the whole time he's done everything from took him to red one which is like probably the most adult thing he's been red one yeah um just to see how we would do it's been the more premieres than i have that wasn't a premiere that was just that was the busiest screen he went to the uh he to the Moana premiere.
This kid's so spoiled. We did a screening of Despicable Me, which is just like you go.
It's the media screen that they call it. He walks out and he's like, where's the party at, Dad? Oh, he wanted to know what the after party was.
Because two weeks earlier, we went to Inside Out 2. And there was an after party.
And it was like a bash. Disney threw it right to the point where he's jaded ever since.
Dude, I'm going to have to call you to get on some of these lists. You should, Matt.
Oh, I can. Yeah, I'll at least point.
Listen, if you emailed one of these people that's like, oh, Leinhardt, I would at least put my name on it and then explain to them this is Matt Leinhardt. The hard part for two, I mean, is like like my boys i took them to see uh what are the ages by the way so almost five and three and a half so okay so we're basically we're all in the same yeah we're all in the same boat they can they can that my wife took them to moana to in miami a couple weeks ago um she said they did great i took them to cosme have you have you guys heard of cosme yep so.
So, like, it's in L.A. I went.
Yeah, it's pretty cool, right? So it's like this interactive, like, thing, Jerry, where you're kind of in a movie theater, but it's, like, plays a sport. It's like you're sitting front row into, like, an NBA game.
Oh, like this sphere for sports. Sphere for sports, yeah.
So they have one in Dallas, I think, yeah. So I took them to see Cirque du Soleil, which was like the only thing they could really do.
And this was a month ago. And they loved it up until the last 20 minutes.
And that's when they just start beating the shit out of each other. That's like they get a little restless.
Switching hour, like Scott Hanson would say. When I went, I went to Texans Lions for it.
And there was a ton of families there. You do have to buy a ticket if you want, like it's a breakdown, like there was standing room for 20 bucks, which I did cause I just wanted to see how it was.
There's like a $70 one and then 125. And like the families are there.
Like it's, it does have, it's not like a rowdy bar situation, but we did a whole couch. I mean, we did a whole couch.
It was, it was, it was awesome. It was cool.
Um, feel like jerry and i don't know if jerry was going there with this but i feel like movies the i feel like they're making a comeback like going to the theater and i and right i just feel i i hear it more from friends or like oh we went to the movies this and it's not necessarily just like disney movies right because a lot of our friends are in the same boat i just feel like it's hey we're gonna go have that experience like we all had growing up which was amazing is that something that you're seeing it will never get back to 2019 like Avengers breaking the all-time box office right but did animated movies especially like the families are fine like Inside Out is like broke animated records like it broke Frozen like that's where Where like the, like, like I think families are finally over the COVID of it all. They want to show it.
And I think people just got tired of watching stuff at home. Like, like, like, I don't know about you, but like getting out of the house is just so, so important in general.
Like we, like that's the weekend is where I'm just like, how do I make sure he does not lose his mind in this time? Do I go to the park? I have a universal pass, but the movies, I am always looking for that. You saw it on Thanksgiving weekend.
It broke a record, $132 million between Moana, Wicked, and Gladiator 2. That's a demographic right there when you have it.
So I definitely see it coming back in that way. Animated films especially, because there was like a light year I brought up.
There was, it bombed. No one showed up.
And that seemed like such a slam dunk. And that was like, maybe families just don't want to go anymore.
And between Moana, Despicable Me did really well. I mean, families showed up for Deadpool.

You don't make $1.3 billion if you don't show,

even though it's an R-rated movie.

Like, at least teenagers were going.

It's such a, like, I mean, gosh, it's so cool because it gives them,

Jerry and I were like, it's something to look forward to, right?

Hey, we're going to the movie on Saturday, whatever it is.

We're going to go see Inside Out, too.

Like, the boys get so excited now.

And that's how it was for me growing up because we didn't have a lot of money.

It was like going to a sporting event.

Like,

Thank you. to look forward to, right? Hey, we're going to the movie on Saturday, whatever it is.
We're going to go see inside out too. Like the boys get so excited now.
And that's how it was for me growing up. Cause we didn't have a lot of money.
It was like going to a sporting event. Like we would go to like one Lakers nosebleeds game a year.
And it was like our super bowl, you know, like these, like your kid, your kids ask him where the party is after a movie, which is like, you know, that's the world. That's, that's like how we're raising our kids because we're fortunate.
We get to do these things. I just, I don't know.
I feel like it's kind of coming back, which is so awesome because it's such a, it was such a part of my childhood, like, like getting your popcorn, like it seems so simple now, but it's like, I'm tired of just streaming shit every night and like, Hey, we'll lay on the couch. Like, let's go to the theater.
Let's get candy. Let's get a Coke.
Let's like, let's do an outing. You know what I mean? Like what i mean like and i'm hoping it's coming back yeah i mean like it's like how i grew up too it was like with my dad like go to the movies with my dad and go to a college football game with my dad those were like infused in my blood which is why college football is such a big thing it's my wife's a huge college football fan too um and movies i'm i still like love taking i'm not jaded by this job i still really love it so that that plays a huge part too and i want my kid to enjoy that as well have you seen a lot of the uh more the non-kid movies this year like have you you've kind of ripped i i i used to get all the screeners back in the dvd generation that was the cool part of being in sagG.
They don't do it as much. It's like digital now.

They don't really do it because they just,

yeah, and you get digital links or,

but again, like you and like Matt said,

I watch stuff at home on the couch.

I'm asleep 10 minutes in and it's no offense to what I'm watching.

I can't stay awake past 10 o'clock.

I wish I had that problem.

I would say, and everyone said two things really.

The mantra has been within Hollywood, survive till 25, right. For the movies, you know, there's a lot, there's a good setup for 2025, which I want to ask you about in a second.
But what have you seen this year that you would say for, all right, you don't want to, you don't have kids or you want to, you and your partner are going to go to a movie. What would you suggest? I mean, I just kind of closed my...

I saw like 100 movies this year

between theater at home and the plane.

Not 100 theatrical theaters.

I have closed my top 10.

I would say Dune was my favorite film of the year.

I thought that movie was awesome.

I'm halfway through the first one.

I'm watching at home.

I fell asleep, but not because of the movie.

It was midnight.

Yeah, I was sweating.

That's your boy, right? That's my boy, Tim. We've talked on this show.
We'll get to him and down the road. Chalamet, like 20 times on this show.
I'm so high on him. It's unbelievable.
Well, you'll like some of my awards. All right, Dune? Well, the Bob Dylan film with Tim.
All right, okay. Bob Dylan film.
I mean, if you like Walk the Line, it's the same director, James Mangold. Right.
I think it plays very similarly. Like it's like I was engaged the whole time.
And just Tim, Monica Boero, who plays Joan Baez, Edward Norton, Boyd Holbrook is Johnny Cash. I want to see that movie now because he's so good.
Yeah. Really good.
There's this film called September 5th that's coming out soon. Yes.
I've heard a little. Yes.
So how the Munich games were covered when the terrorist situation happened from the ABC desk. Awesome.
It's like, it is like one of the better thrillers of the year, the way they did that. Those are like the big that's the big three yeah i would say um i don't want to see gladiator 2 yet or no that's on that's four that was i i was so entertained by that amazing it will never be the original and it's like it's just so hard to hit classics but like denzel is in his role i think mezcal is a star and they were just going for it with some of those action scenes.
So that was on my list. And then like TV wise, um, presumed is, it was my favorite show.
That was great. That was a great one.
I like disclaimer too on Apple. And then, um, this, the recent season of industry, which is that like a London, like financial HBO financial.
I'm so behind lights. So behind.
Did you watch, uh, you'll breeze through that. Did you watch shrinking? Love that show.
HBO Financial. I'm so behind.
I'm so behind. Did you watch Shrinking? Love that show.
That's, I think, my wife and I's favorite. That's a show where it's similar to Entourage, where I feel like I'm seeing my friends again when it comes back on.
I love all those characters. I'm relating to those characters so much.
The first season, I kind of love them more. This one like, got almost a little dark at times where I was, like, kind of, like, turned off, but I understood where they were going.
The Rick Goldstein edition I thought was great. We were, like, kind of rooting for that character.
But, yeah, I mean, Harrison Ford is so good in that, like, crowd of people. Isn't it so? I feel like it's such a – every time I watch it, it's such a strange, like, to see him in that show.
Right. Cause I think of him as Indiana Jones.
Like I just think of him as like this, I don't know, but he's great in it. He's been fantastic.
The pivot he's done recently with some of the TV stuff. Cause I'm doing the Yellowstone spinoff as well, which I, I like him in, but yeah, he just kind of just fits perfectly.
And he does like, like he's not, he's a professional on the the show but he does have though if you watch his interviews he kind of is that character a little bit with this like i'm so excited to become a grumpy asshole man i don't know i feel like i've been born and raised to get to that point in life uh we're gonna do something that's what you have to look forward to jerry well matt and i and I have been talking offline. We're going to do these segments where Matt also has an older son.
I have a 16-year-old nephew, and their sports takes are just psychotic at times. But it's like the old versus the young.
So that is going to be a segment on throwbacks for sure. We're going to have the old versus the young.
I say this all the time. The people that grew up in the 80s and 90s just had the best childhood.
The sports were better. The TV shows were better.
Everything was just these kids don't know anything. I'm showing Jax all the like the Batman animated series and tailspin and all that stuff.
I don't want Cocoa and Bluey in my house. Tailspin so good.
Tailspin. I love that show bring we brought back like um like all dogs go to heaven which by the way sad movie but like we brought we brought in some like brought some of those 90s movies back for our kids and they love it but it's like i did this is you're gonna sit down and watch this i did back to the future over thanksgiving and he was engaged in the second one like he was really i don't think he was following was following, but he definitely found the visuals.
And that was like a moment for me. Do you know what live action one played well in my house? Air Bud.
Oh, that would be a good kid. Air Bud played really well.
My five-year-old was just like, this is hilarious. And right after he was like, dad, let's go play basketball.
I'm like, this is how I had to inspire you to watch a dog play basketball. This is what makes you want to play hoops.

This,

this,

um,

this,

uh,

his favorite one is live action is probably Godzilla King Kong right now. Like he,

he thinks your kids,

your kids are going to be quitting Tarantino.

He's watching everything.

Well,

I'm been like,

he's getting a little bit more scared of things here and there.

So like,

I'll actually screw with them.

I'll do like,

um,

like Disney randomly does their Hulu thing.

So like the alien movie is on the, like the op and I'll click on alien him. Disney randomly does their Hulu thing, so the Alien movie is on the op, and I'll click on it, and he'll freak out.
Like, no, don't put it on. I freak out when that stuff comes out.
By the way, Godzilla King Kong's a little bit aggressive for a five-year-old. Yeah, I mean, probably.
My five-year-old would love it. My three-year-old would be terrified.
My five-year-old doesn't get scared. I mean, again, I gauge.
I mean, the best story i have like not of all time but like i would have like the tv on in the background and like fear fest was on and they would just put like all sorts of horror films on at all points day i was doing dinner i can't watch that and jacks just comes up he's probably three he goes daddy the dude with the weird fingers is on right now he kind of looks scary i look up freddie cougar's just chopping somebody up and i was like, click, I got to change that channel. I can't watch that stuff now.
Um, before we move on to some awards, what, what is coming in 25? That is that mantra survived till 25. Like what are, what are things that we know are coming? And then second part you, I always kind of say like, I don't want to quite do the one for one, like your Shams in Hollywood, but you, you know, you have to break stuff.
You put that when I know Kroll on Twitter puts what do you put a bomb? Usually like you're going to drop a bomb incoming. Right.
When Justin puts incoming, you know, you're getting some massive casting news. So what are the things that you know are coming that you're excited about in twenty five? And what are the things that you are working on? You don't have to give away any trade secrets, but the things you hope break in 2025, one way or the other.
Oh, some stuff coming out a lot of, so the reason it was called survive the 25 is that you had the dual writing acting strikes and they had to push films out because actors couldn't promote their movies. So like challengers was supposed to come out in September of 23 came on April 24.
And then all the movies in 24 pushed to 25. So you only had one Marvel movie this year, for instance.
It was Deadpool. Huge hit, but like that just never has happened in recent years.
Next year, we have three. We have a new Captain America with Anthony Mackie taking over the shield.
Right. Because they switched that in a TV show.
I love Mackie. I've gone with Mackie.
He's hilarious. Oh, he's the best.
I know his manager. I've hung out he always he calls me detroit because like he's done some detroit movies so he's like hey detroit and i'm like it was an eight mile right eight mile he did well he also filmed a bunch like i think like real steel that hugh jackman movie with sean yeah that's right he's been in detroit a couple times um so there's that there's thunderbolts which is like marvel's version of suicide squad which, which is like Florence Pugh's character.
Yep. Winter Soldier all teamed together.
And then the big one's Fantastic Four finally getting rebooted with Pedro and Vanessa Kirby and Joseph Quinn in the Johnny Storm roll. And then you'll I mean, the summer is stacked.
There is a new Jurassic World movie with Scarlett Johansson coming out. There is the Superman movie coming out that everyone's pretty excited about.
Brad Pitt has this F1 racing movie that they've been teaching. I saw when I was just in Vegas for F1, my room had a view of the track.
And at like 2 in the morning, I just hear. I wake up.
I open the shade. And there's cars flying around.
And there's like some guy standing in the middle of the track. I'm like, what the hell? It's Brad Pitt.
They were filming reshoots for the F1 movie. Well, they were doing pickups.
Or add-ons, right. Their whole thing was, because it had to push because of the strike, they had to get these additional shots in.
Right. So that was one of the things.
I watched them filming that from my hotel window at 2.30 in the morning. I went to room service and watched.
And then you have another Avatar film also coming out too at the end of the year. And then the one I'm actually excited really is Sinners.
It's Michael B. Jordan and Ryan Coogler reuniting on like a vampire movie set in Jim Crow South.
It looks fantastic. He plays twins in it.
It looks awesome. Oh, he plays dual roles.
That's an adult. That's a date night movie that I would suggest.
Right going to leave the kids at home and then there's a how to save your dragon live action movie that I think that's something Jax is getting into is that movie it's a great movie there's a couple Pixar films Zootopia 2 is going to come out so we got a big 25 is a big year. If this goes well, I won't say we're back, but we'll say, okay, we now know officially what movies and box office is like.
This is how it works. It functions now.
I'm excited for that. Harry Potter show.
Is it true? I read the deadline article too. I think one of your coworkers wrote about just the secrecy of the, I worked on that.
You worked on that story. Oh yeah.
It's one of the most tight-lipped projects. That's a Nolan movie.
It's the hardest thing to find news out about right now because it's done in London. It's harder to track and the NDAs on it like it's just crazy.
Crazy. But the nice thing about that is like if you read any books they leave so much out from the movies because there's so much detail that i actually think this will work um for a new generation kind of thing because like the people that like watch those movies are just me and matt's age now so like uh and jerry's sorry i'm older than i'm a lot older than you got matt hates when i say i'm a lot older than we're in the same deck we're the same i'm a whole high school person older that is yeah when you're a whole high school.
I guess when you put it that way, yeah, you're old. Yeah, like you wouldn't have gone to school with me.
Or I might have been a senior. You guys would have been a freshman.
I could have picked on you guys, like days in California. Although Matt was 6'5".
I was nine inches taller than you when I was eight years old. What grade were you in the Rose Bowl against Navarro? I was redshirt.
So I graduated high school in 01. But two years older.
Oh, yeah. So yeah.
So that's OK. I just turned 41 in May.
OK. All right.
So that is similar. So we know similar shows from the 90s.
Of course. Well, 2025 looks incredible.
That's going to be amazing. But let's talk about 2024 and do some awards now.
Okay. We thought through this, uh, we know the format.
Do you have the order you'd like to go? Well, you want to do rookie comeback and then the rookie comeback. Okay.
So let's hear it. So we got first one's going to be our rookie of the year for actors, which I think is a great way to look at the Oscars should do this.
Yes. So this one was a little tougher, but I went based on the Oscar pedigree stuff.
I'm going Mickey Madison from Anora, which is, oh, that's another film. That's like the under the radar film.
It's excellent. Director, Sean Baker, who's done a lot of these independent films that have popped at the Oscars.
You'll know. She's from once upon a time.
Right.

This is a rookie.

This is her first big leading role.

Right.

Everybody will remember her from getting like,

like barbecue.

She's the one that Leo barbecue.

Yeah. The flame.

Right.

Yeah.

She's awesome.

She's one of the Manson.

But like,

ironically,

like that,

those his cast in that movie under the,

is under the radar.

Awesome.

For unknowns,

like Sidney Sweeney,

Austin Butler was one of those.

Mickey,

like Maya Hawk was like the Manson kids who go to Storm Brad and Leo's house are like stars now. Was Sidney Sweeney one of the girls that did that? She opens the door for Brad to go get it.
When they go to the ranch. You know when Brad Pitt goes to the ranch? Sidney Sweeney.
Also, who did she? Margaret Qualley.

Margaret Qualley.

Yes.

It's like, it really is.

You rewatch that movie and you're like, this person?

That's the rookie class.

I'm going to rewatch that movie, yeah.

I watched it on the plane to LA last month and I thought the same thing.

Like, wow.

Like, if you look at this, like a rookie draft class, just this movie, there's first round

picks everywhere.

It's the Lions last year class. Like, it's Gibbs, and jack well played crawl well played okay i like that that's a great call she's fantastic try to find that but that i think if i had she is right there in the mix to win the oscar this year like that she's that good in it so that would be if you're if you're in that sort of category you You get rookie of the year if it's your first big leading role.
Damn. Oscar, that'd be huge.

All right. That would be if you're if you're in that sort of category, you get rookie of the year if it's your first big leading role.

Damn.

So that'd be huge. All right.
Was come back. Come back.
Active. You're my favorite.
Because this was interesting. I was trying to do it.
And this person had since covid, they've had a couple of theatrical things that just didn't hit as well. And I'm going Gyllenhaal, Jake.
I think Roadhouse, I think think even though it didn't go theatrical really had a moment in the springtime where everyone was watching it it was the water cooler film everyone wanted to see it good or bad like oh i don't remember make this oh i want to see this but he's jacked of course i think that movie played really well and i think it was something that like i think it was the film that mainly streamed that did the best of everything that you remember in 24 and really popped again. And then like after that kind of died down, Presumed Innocent comes out.
And that is the show of the summer that everyone was talking about. It was incredible.
See what happened. I think he's going to be in the Emmy conversation now.
He just got a Globe nomination. So he like it wasn't like he was in like actor jail like Travoltavolta before he did Pulp Fiction.
But he had a couple bumps with Ambulance and that Guy Ritchie movie just not having the same sort of pop at the box office. This year I think he really did well.
And then next year I actually just bought this, taking my wife to New York for her birthday present. We're going to go see Othello.
It's him and Denzel in the springtime. Oh, that locks it up.
MVP. Wow.
So that's a 12-month stretch right there where he's Some might say that's almost an MVP bid. Like, that's very Sam Darnold.
Like, you could actually have the conversation that he could be MVP as well. We kind of already teased my MVP bid from earlier because I named two of my three films, but we'll get there in a second.
We'll get there because it's a sponsored segment as well. So we'll get there.
And then you want to do the sponsor? Yeah. So, all right.
So this is how we set this up. Every week we do our Wendy's can't get enough sauce moment of the year.
I needed a drink of water anyway. And we try to figure out either usually it's with sports, a player or a team.
that's our saucy moment that we cannot get enough of.

For our male and female MVP,

we're going to use that for our Wendy's can't get enough sauce moment

of the week.

Let's go first with, let's do

men first. Who is the male

MVP actor

of 2024?

The gentleman

MVP. It's Shalamet! If you go from year to year, people forget Wonka was a year from now.
That film got $625 million at the box office. And that owned basically the first two months of the year.
When nothing was really coming out, that made its money. He got like a Globe nom for that, I believe.
And it launched a new franchise for him for him then that film dies down and dune comes out which is like basically doing a big time until inside out huge it's gonna be in the oscar race now obviously not everyone's going to see that because of him but like without him i don't think the film is necessarily working um and then and then this complete unknown i think he's getting an oscar nom for he's fantastic in it. It's going to come out Christmas.
And he ate all factors. He did the family film.
He did your tentpole. And now he has this acting piece that really showed his stature, I feel like.
And as we pointed out a few weeks back, stellar sports knowledge for someone that you would not assume. By the way, that was the most shocking thing I've ever seen.
That rounds out the MVP case. This poor kid, just because he goes to NYU, everyone's like, he can't watch ball.
Totally stereotyped him. This kid is like a diehard sports fan.
The Ohio pick in the MAAC championship was crazy because that was just like none of those guys on that board. I'm sure you're in that position too where you have to pick a game and you're like, I have no idea.
I can't watch everything. That was nuts to nail that because they blew him out.
How old is he? Mid-20s? Is he 27? 27, 27. I think he's later now.
I go harder for the Knicks thing that popped up on social. The Knicks thing was great.
We talked about hunting Landry Fields down in the middle of Manhattan somewhere to answer a trivia question to win tickets to the Knicks game. He also seems like a really down-to-earth dude.
Like, he went to the Timothee Chalamet look-alike contest and was, like, screwing with people. He's the MVP Kroll.
You're right. He is the male MVP.
Wrap it up. Give him the trophy.
Clap it up. And we'll see if he can go back-to-back.
I mean, he's actually, he's 28. He's going to be 29 December 27th.
So under 30, he's Mahomes. He's got, he's Mahomes.
Yeah. It feels like he's been around forever.
Well, it was interesting. He's at that game and I forgot that he did Interstellar.
I watched Interstellar last week on a plane and he's an Interstellar. Yeah.
So that's the other thing that's kind of, we got to get him on this pod by the way that we have to make that happen and now who is our wendy's can't get enough sauce female mvp actor well ironically he's his co-star i'm zendaya i'm i think she's i think she's it now i like she is a big reason it isn't just as a dune because again like that you can base that on box office. But she's like that again.
That was as much her film as it was Timmy's, I feel like, this time around. But this film Challengers.
Is that the tennis movie? Yes. It's 90 million globally.
And that film, like in this day and age, when a film like that, that was kind of done for streamers, but gets the theatrical thing. That's an impressive feat.
And people were only going to that movie because of her sorry josh o'connor and you and the crown fans mike face no one really knew who you were they showed up for her and i mean that doesn't seem like a huge number but in this day and age when that drama is just so hard to get people in theaters for i think she locked that up too and anytime she has something coming people lose their lose their minds over it. This eight 20, she's a superstar.
Yeah. Yeah.
And she still has like in the chamber. If they get to it, they have euphoria.
If they get to it in the chamber, that's, that's waiting. Can I tell you guys my MVP? My, yeah, I just actually want to get Justin.
How about Glenn Powell? Yeah. I mean, like I, I would have given it to him in 23 well that's what i said like i twister hitman anyone but you i just and then i think he's filming a uh popped up on my is he chad powers that's right chad i just feel like like he's like he had a big year like he's had a big couple years i think i slightly give it to timmy because just the no sure.
Yeah. But like Glenn is like runner up probably if I had, if you had the runner up numbers, he would be, he'd be getting first place.
He got a few first place votes, like from liner. He got one.
That was, I would like to see him stretch it. I mean, listen, he's trying to build the movie star status that one, like I guess hit man was kind of that, but the like film that like Timmy's Yeah, that is, yeah.
Where he shows that acting range, too. Yeah, for sure.
Because I think he is a really good actor. I agree.
Justin, can't thank you enough. That was awesome.
You know, we're trying to find friends of the show. I think you're our first friend of the show.
Oh, actually, one more. The saddest moment of the year was listening to the Triple Option and Urban Meyer talk about that Michigan-Ohio State game.
That was the saddest way did you see did you see that um an ohio state lawmaker the bill that he's proposing he's a michigan fan he's trolling he's a michigan fan oh really open ann arbor or toledo that's what all the bar school guys are saying don't go for it it's a troll so he he got got me. Flag planting.
That is a felony. Flag planting is a felony.
I was like, how soft could you be? Oh, shit. I'm almost positive everyone was calling the guy out.
Like he is Ohio but grew up. It sounds like he's a Michigan fan from all.
Has to be a troll because, I mean, you can't take it seriously. So funny.
That's actually great.

Oh, man.

Buddy, you're the best.

Yeah, thanks for coming on, dude. I appreciate it.

We'll get you back in 25 and see if we are surviving.

Good luck to your Detroit Lions.

I will not text you.

I'll just text you happy things.

You can text me when you want.

I appreciate it.

And maybe we'll see you in New Orleans.

Maybe the next episode we'll do.

Maybe we're all in New Orleans. Who knows? Well, hopefully my wife doesn't listen to this because then she's going to ask where that fund is hidden somewhere.
Good point. Good point.
Thank you, Justin. See you guys.
Later, buddy. All right.
It's time for Money Moments,

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So with this week, we're going to do it

so it's a team or a player or person that we are counting on to be money in 2025. Matt, we're looking ahead.
Who do you got for 2025? So I got two really quick. I can't believe I'm saying this.
Bill Belichick. Bill.
Big Bill in college football taking over this uh, you know, this month, obviously the, the North Carolina head coaching job. And I think I'm excited for it.
Like, I don't, I don't know, like I'm still like trying to process like what he's going to be like on the sidelines for, for North Carolina in the ACC, how he's going to recruit high school kids. And I know it's built more like the NFL these days with NIL and all those things.
And like, he's got his general manager and all this stuff. I get all that, but like just his coaching style and what he brings to the game, how it's going to translate over into the college football level with a bunch of 18, 19 and 20 year old kids that are now making a lot of money.
I just think it's fascinating. I'm happy.
You know, I, I think like, like he still goes down as one of the greatest to ever do it. And now he's in the college football rank.
So that's one I'm looking forward to. And then the other one is a college football player named Arch Manning.
I am, I am excited to see, cause I've seen him. He's, he's played at times this year i am excited to see the

next manning take over and a lot of people say that he's he's probably the best athlete of all

of them which i would say he is um obviously chasing his two his two uncles but um arch

manning a lot of hype great kid will be the starting quarterback for texas next year i'm

excited to see what he brings to college football yours are are so good. I have to comment.
Comment. Well, the Belichick thing, first of all, I love that also Mike Lombardi is his GM.
Have you ever used the term GM for college football before? It's all over college football now because you basically need a person that can build a roster roster like right it's literally that and that's part of the reason why belichick you know when they were going through all these negotiations there were a lot of points like like he wants to be a football coach but he needs to hire someone that can handle all the other shit these coaches are dealing with a lot of coaches are dealing with roster management how do we pay like they don't want to deal with that they want to just call plays, X's and O's and have a whole team. So that's how a lot of these teams are being built.
And that's certainly how North Carolina is going to be built. The other thing I'm most excited for, like a lot of people, my favorite colorway for uniforms, sneakers, all that is Carolina blue.
How do you not love that? So are we going to see Belichick in that ratty hoodie, cut up sleeve, everything, but except it's going to be Carolina blue? With the Jordan logo. If they put Jordans on, please, Bill Belichick.
He's going to have to wear Jordans. Please.
I feel like he could put in his contract, I'm going to wear whatever shoes I want. Don't bother me.
Please come out with your ratty North Carolina blue hoodie and some, and some Tar Heel Jordans. Oh, I just, I, I'm excited for that moment.
By the way, somehow, somehow we talk about Phil Knight with Oregon and all that Nike money. Yeah.
I don't know how much money Jordan gives to UNC, but something tells me that that was probably part of this deal, that that, that collective is going to be a little bit bigger for North Carolina. That's going to be exciting.
It's crazy, man. Yeah, it is crazy to have Indiana playing good football.
North Carolina's future looks for all the college basketball teams we've gotten so used to now penetrating the football world. I think it's really, really cool schools.
Kansas football has been better. Like, we talk about it all the time on the show.
Syracuse had a great year in football. Like, all of these traditional basketball schools.
Duke had a great year in football. Duke won, gosh, nine games this year, eight games this year.
Yeah, so it's cool, man. It's good for those schools, right, when they have both sports playing well.
And the Arch Manning, that's a great one. There's a part of me that really wishes he was coming out this year because I really would love him to be on the Giants.
I just think that would be so cool. He needs a little bit of time, but that kid is going to be – I'm telling you right now, this could be my take.
He will be the number one pick in the draft when he comes out. I think he's that good.
And we've seen it. We've seen it this year.
We've seen the glimpses because he can run. He's big.
Yeah. So yeah, the Giants draft was my number two for my money moment in 2025.
My real money moment though, and it's what every New York Knicks fan is thinking is what is this New York Knicks team going to be like come april and may during playoff time because right now it's been okay it's been good i think it's been great okay it's been okay just okay they've lost a lot of games to teams they should have been they've lost to the hawks twice they lost to the piston shout out justin crowley tweet he texted me right after that game. You know, and a few signature wins.
When it looks good, it looks really good. And they put up 130, which is also weird to see from a Knicks team to put up 130 points with Tibbs because they're so defensive.
But it has not gelled yet. And we are all in.
This is the team. I mean, maybe there'll be a smaller trade, but they are all in.
And the Knicks fans talk about freezing cold takes. There's a lot of us, me included coming into this season.
You could look back in June and say, whoa, we're all these meathead Knicks fans wrong. So for me, the thing I am looking forward to, I'm counting on, I need the Knicks to be money.
So that is my cash out money moment. The New York Knicks coming through when it matters in April, May, and hopefully June.
And I just, I'm counting on, uh, before we move on, I'm counting on, uh, floor seats for the Knicks. That's like, that is, that is okay.
We're going to get, we're going to get into throwback three. We're going to do our new year's resolutions, right? Our personal ones.
But one of, I just added one, one of mine is to be courtsided Madison Square Garden with you for a playoff game though i want a playoff game i don't want to wear would you wear a knicks hat or would you just stay neutral you stay i don't wear a knicks hat dude i'm good i'm not i'm not like yeah knicks and knicks and lakers aren't even in the same conference so we're good okay i appreciate that but that but that that is uh that's a good one all right let's let's do throwback three. So obviously we're wrapping up the year

and we always do, I think in our house,

and I'm sure you, we always do just New Year's resolutions,

just goals, something we want to get better at,

something we want to do more of,

maybe something we want to do less of.

So we're going to do throwback three,

our top three just New Year's resolutions. What do we want to accomplish in 2025? You start.
Okay. And I love, I used to do this thing, you know, obviously I lived in LA 20 years.
I would always fly home for Christmas. Christmas was the one holiday I could never miss in New York.
But what I would do on the plane ride back home, because I'd always come home to LA for New Year's because that's where the party was for me. I would, on the plane, I would not necessarily do resolutions, but I would just write things down that I really wanted to accomplish.
Small things, big things, whatever, in the same notebook. So the very next year on the flight back to New York for that Christmas, I would look back, I would get to look back in the year and be like, oh, I did this.
That's cool. I did this.
I didn't do that. So I encourage everyone, you know, write them down and then put them away where you remember and look at them and just see what happens.
It might feel good to check some things off. But my number, my first one I want to talk about is my overall health.
You know, I just turned 45 years old and I've definitely gained some dad weight. I've been talking about this from an appearance.
I feel like I look whatever. I don't even really care how I look.
It's more for how I feel. Definitely.
The other night at dinner, I got up, we were sitting down in a restaurant for two hours. I stood up and I cramped up and had to take a knee like my left, my left calf, my left calf seized up.
I took a knee in the restaurant and everyone came rushing over. They thought I was having a heart attack.
So it's a pretty broad spectrum. I can't stop laughing.
I'm getting a visual. I'm sorry.
I did cramp up. We did an escape room and then we went to dinner and I cramped up at dinner from the pressure of the escape room.
So, health in general, the things that will encompass that will be, I'm 45 now, got to go get the colonoscopy. And I encourage every person out there, you hit that age, just do it.
We see James Van Der Beek now who just came out with a diagnosis and he's pretty outwardly speaking up for screenings and all that. So I'm handling all that health stuff, but I mean, saunas, cold plunges, stretching, yoga, just all those things to be functional at 45 that is, and be healthy for my kids.
Okay. So that, yeah.
So actually I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to start with that one as well. And I think cause we're in the same boat right now and I'm also having a baby here pretty soon.
So you can easily just throw it off. For me, with the health and fitness, every year I always try to be like, all right, just gym or this basic stuff.
I really want to dive more into supplements, vitamins. They do those blood tests where you can really, you spend a little bit of money, but you really dial in like, what like this is what's up with your body like demal was talking about exactly exactly like something like that so like i really want to and again and it all it encompasses everything right because i just want to feel better i was laughing at you cramping because like my lower back hurts my lower back hurts because my new hips and i'm still trying to work like like i just want to overall i want to be able to pickup basketball multiple days a week.
Like I used to, which I can because of my hips are new, but like, I want to stretch more. I want to like, I like drinking.
I'm not going to give up. I like, I like things like I like having a cocktail.
That's fine. I'm not going to, you know what I mean? Like, I like that.
You know what? Like I like doing those things. So I'm not going to deprive myself of that that but i think just overall health and awareness of my body then will allow me to be a better husband be a better dad like all of those things because like you said like when we get older man when you hit 40 early 40s it's like shit just stops working you know just like you gotta you gotta so that's that's a big one um and we should do we've talked about so but we should do some type of like fitness challenge or something yeah we should i don't know if it's like steps on a whoop band or peloton contest or what just you know weight loss doesn't really work because also we're not proportionate you know so yeah but you could do body mass we could do bmi so we should come we could do whatever we'll throwbacks challenge two things on that before we move on to the next one too.

My good buddy, Mike Young, who's a standup comic,

who also I played pickup with for years.

He had this great idea that I don't think ever happened,

but he wanted to do like a dude's weekend

where first thing we do is we all go,

like five of us go to the doctor

and we all get our colonoscopies.

We get blood work.

We get all this stuff. And when we get the clean bill of health, we party like crazy and celebrate our health.
I think that's a great idea for, uh, for older dudes where let's go get, let's go get the docs to look at us and basically give us a clean bill of health and go party that. And I did a 30 year old dude walk, rolled up on me on the gas station the other day he was a big entourage fan he came up and he said listen i i love throwbacks i hope you beat matt in the three-point challenge which we haven't released just yet but he said i have a pickup game thursday nights and it's it's pretty low like low impact i think you could handle it so i'm toying with the notion of showing up to this random pickup game why i gotta get the health in order it's a perfect it's a perfect just re-entry back into basketball but i also you're walking in i won't know one person it's this dude james at the gas station who had rolled up on me he might be walking into a fucking trap who knows who knows all knows? All right.
All right. Number two, my number two.
And I have so many OB. Okay.
So this is not, it's, it's health adjacent. It's in the same ballpark.
I want to get back into jujitsu. Uh, I started taking jujitsu years ago with the Gracie's at one of their academies.
I got up to like yellow, like next bell. I wasn't very good, but I did.
And I want to take it because these frigging videos on Twitter, I mean, these street fight videos just pop up on my phone. I don't look for them.
I don't want to look for them. They're horrible, awful.
But it also reminds me, everyone seems to know how to fight these days. And I always thought I knew how to to fight but I just want to get to a point where if someone's attacking me I can get them to the ground and just disarm them or if I have to protect my wife or kids I could just disarm them until help comes and just choke them out a little bit also like jiu-jitsu is like a badass workout it's also badass to learn that type of stuff but you do get hurt a.
A lot of guys get neck and back stuff. Yeah, but like the mental toughness and preparation, all the stuff that that like gives you even outside of when you're just like in your hour workout.
I think it's incredible. We try to put, we put Kaysen in my four and a half year old in jujitsu this summer.
How do you do it? A lot of kids do it, right? And he went for three months and it was like torture, dude. And like, I was so disappointed because he's in there and he's a big kid.
He's strong. He's my tough, like he is tough as nails, man.
But he's not a fighter. He just, he doesn't have like, my three-year-old is not as tough, but my, he will instigate, he'll punch you and he'll be like, you know, but he's like, he also cried also cry more dude this little girl in there was beating his ass just rolling them all over the place this little girl half his size and you know they're teaching at this he doesn't know what he's doing but they're teaching like like like like throw her down grab her leg throw her down like he could he was just like this and i'm on the corner like casein puncture man puncture they're telling you to put like you know like that and he just couldn't and he would cry going in there And honestly, it was Josie.
Josie's like, man, puncture. They're telling you to put, like, you know, like that.
And he just couldn't.

And he would cry going in there finally.

And honestly, it was Josie.

Josie's like, we're taking him to say that, babe,

at what point do we just stop?

So that was our intro to jujitsu.

But for you as a 45-year-old grown man, I love it, buddy.

Yeah.

What's your next one?

All right.

So this one's kind of, it's not generic,

but be spontaneous. I want to be more spontaneous.
And I think that one's always kind of lives in our house, but more so because we're having another baby. And a lot of this just like, it just, you know, like we're going to have three under five.
We have a teenager who's going into a senior year. Like, it's just going to be a lot.
And it's really hard. As you know, like when you have babies and you have little kids kids like it's not about you anymore and that's fine it's about your your kids but just not going and this is my advice to all new parents but for us to it's just not getting sucked into the vortex of like the baby life and we never leave the house and we're just become that couple and like then things suffer like and like it is really important for me to make sure that we just continue to like do those things it might be taking one kid it might be taking just the baby and leaving the two it might be right whatever that means it doesn't matter it could be going to the park it could be just going to like but not getting sucked into like that tornado of like a new newborn phase um and then just in general like just being spontaneous like like you know like like, like, like, hey, let's go do this.
Like, why not? Like, who cares? You know, like not just getting stuck in that mode. I think that's going to be a big one for both of us.
I think too, a lot of families that have second and third kids or even one, but they just are on the go. I think they do subscribe to that.
And that third kid, I feel like always ends up being the chillest one because they're just used to being like, they'll nap anywhere. They'll eat anything because you're just on the go with them.
It's a really good setup for my last one. The problem is we've had our first two have had like severe acid reflux problems, like severe stomach issues.
So like they'd actually have to go to like the doctor for it and they couldn't sleep on their back. Sleep is, yeah.
They couldn't sleep on their back for a year. So like our boys were really, really tough babies in particular Canon.
So like, obviously they were for the most part healthy, but they did have those issues that the doctor was like, they will grow out of. But for that first year, they were just miserable.
So we're just like, yeah, I mean, healthy, happy, whatever. But like, that would be nice.
Like if the third is the easiest one. Well, the ones I'm putting on for my own personal list based off of this show is one, I want to go to the movies more.
If I could get that to happen in 2025. And two, I'm going to, I'm full commit to baseball after just talking about Soto and all these, like I'm just next year full, it's full commitment.
I will make time for baseball, but that's not my last one. My last one is off of what you just said.
And it's not a done deal. I am putting a maybe in front of it.
My last resolution is potentially expanding the Ferrara family and adding a third potential. I'm considering it.
I'm heavy considering it. We just threw that out in the universe.
That's right. That is out.
That lives. Bree is going to hear that.
I'm going to make sure she skips this episode. She is going to hear that.
Dude.

Well, I'm going to wait to see how it goes with you first.

So I got some time.

I'm going to be getting live intel from you.

By the way, the fact that you said that means it's going to happen.

There's no going back once you go that far over the line.

You know, didn't a coach?

Just expand the tribe. Bro, just expand the tribe.
I'm deemphasizing. I'm deemphasizing, uh, just how hard it's going to be.
And I'm just trying to go with the flow a little bit. You can't think about it.
You just got to go and you just, as my wife always says, Oh, we'll be fine. Okay.
I will fully say as we wrap up and I hope everybody out there has their list. I will say you have been an influence in that department.
And I will say if Bree and I do have a third child, you and Josie are, by the way, this podcast happening is a big reason why the third kid happened because I've followed your journey too as we get to know each other doing this. So I appreciate that.
And maybe Matt or maybe Josie, they are great names. True.
Well, Matthew, give us a middle name, Matthew. I have one more.
I have my number one. Yeah, I want your last one.
By the way, that one, we should end on that because that's fantastic. This is universal.
This is to all the parents out there. And really, quality over quality over quantity and it, for me, I've been really bad ever, like the last two years, like on my phone, I'm guilty as anybody, right.
I'm like my 18 year old. I'm just like, and a lot of it honestly can be work related because of the jobs we do and we're surfing.
We're like social, like it is part of my, my life, but I've really thought about this. And like, told my wife the other day i'm like man like 20 minutes with my boys without a phone is better than an hour with my boys with me being on my phone you know what i mean like when you look at it that way you're like man if i give them or like every night i put them down i pretend i'm like this crazy monster for five minutes and like they live for that.
And it makes, and then sometimes I'm like, man, like I don't feel like doing it, but I'm like, this is the greatest literally three minutes that they want all night. And it's just that quality that they'll always remember.
Right. So not to get too serious there, but like just quality over quantity, man.
Like quality, quality time is the most important thing I think is we're getting older with our kids, kids, friends, family, putting the phone away, enjoying five minutes with a five-minute conversation with your wife or your husband or your kid goes a long way when you're fully present

and you have that quality time.

So that's my universal message, man, to everybody.

That's a great way to go out, man.

Yeah.

And I've really made a conscious effort of it this last couple months. And like, that's my biggest goal next year.
I love it. Well, cue up the music to take us out.
I want to wish everybody a very, very happy new year's. We have a lot of amazing sports in 2025 coming our way.
We're a few months out from the Superbowl basketball playoffs playoffs going to get going. And then, as you know, we'll be at

spring training in February. So 2025

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