Rivalries renewed, the return of the running back and Brady Quinn joins the show!

Speaker 1 But look, I mean, USC was ahead of its time. You know, they had NIL before NIL was legalized, and that was...

Speaker 1 It was beneficial, I think.

Speaker 2 Oh, shut up. Shut up.

Speaker 2 All right. All right.
Another episode of Throwbacks presented by Cash App.

Speaker 2 Sending, spending, saving, splitting, tipping, donating, gifting, or just typing in numbers all with the number one finance app in the app store that's money that's cash app you know who else is money my co-host matt liner is money what's up buddy how you feel did you just start an all right all right all right like matthew i i i went two all rights i think if you do the third then you're treading on mcclaw i have i haven't i haven't seen you this happy and excited in a long time is it because you celebrated a birthday

Speaker 2 is it because you got reunited with your boys last week i mean what is going on dude i'm coming off a big week. And you are.
We have a great show for you today.

Speaker 2 I am overly caffeinated, but we had LA week last week with throwbacks. I was out there.
We did a lot of great interviews. We shot our, you know, we shot our basketball stuff.

Speaker 2 But here's where I stand with the birthday stuff of why I'm so hyped up. It's not because I got a cool present or because anything.
I just felt the love. Yeah.
I felt the love.

Speaker 2 The social team made a great birthday video of me having the cake out in LA.

Speaker 2 You know, my kids, basically, my 45th birthday, it was their birthday. Like, we just did whatever they wanted.

Speaker 2 You got to glow today. You got to glow today.
And look, I think it's awesome when you get older as birthdays. And what are you, 45? I'm 45.
My Michael Jordan comeback year.

Speaker 2 And by the way, the biggest comeback year you're going to have.

Speaker 2 It is something about as you get older, not to get all sappy here, but like you just appreciate, you know, you appreciate family, you appreciate friends, you appreciate, you know, where you are in life and obviously just like new things and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 it's awesome, man. It's just good to see.
It's just good to see. It's good to see you happy.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 And there is last week, you know, you had, we're not going to get into it, but you know, you had some down moments last week. You know, obviously no way with me.

Speaker 2 I mean, we'll get that. We'll get into that a little bit later.
Some physical moments where you start realizing.

Speaker 2 Let's just say I saw a video of me running and I was like, who's that old ass man running right now? And it was. Dude, that's what happens, man.
That's why I never run. The gate is destroyed.

Speaker 2 Oh, the gate. Well, I don't know if the gate was ever there.
I never had a gate. I had a gate, buddy.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, I had a gate.
I used to dude. I also, I also, it's so funny, dude, because

Speaker 2 I watched the Entourage movie this past weekend. I just free, I just was like, I was just like going down the rabbit hole.
I'm like, you know what? Meeting the guys.

Speaker 2 I'm going to watch the movie on the plane. I'm freaking in a foreign.
And that was your comeback. That's when you lost all the weight.
I was pretty ripped in that.

Speaker 2 One of the scenes was when pivin was like ari was like

Speaker 2 whatever when you guys were pitching the movie or when he needed more funding of the movie it was a it was a it was a shot to you losing all this weight and i was like yes that's my that's my guy so it's funny how the jokes change and and spoil and teaser for all of you out there we did a great episode with kevin dillon and kevin connolly and that one is coming soon we're just putting a bow on it and that one's coming and that one's going to be a good one but it's funny and you could ask doug ellen this with the entourage movie i got into really really good good shape.

Speaker 2 I used to get a lot of fat jokes for eight years, seven years on the show.

Speaker 2 Then season eight, I got in good shape, and Doug was mad because he's like, now I have to write a whole new, I have to figure out new like skinny stuff. Let's just say you didn't miss craft services.

Speaker 2 I mean, you didn't miss craft services on a day-to-day.

Speaker 2 No, Connolly used to be the one to talk me off the ledge when I was having weak moments and I'd go over to Crafty and there'd be like Krispy Kreme Donuts and he's just Jerry, don't do it.

Speaker 2 He just would rise over the back.

Speaker 2 Crafty is dangerous. Oh, it's so cool.
Plus, you're there all day. You're shooting.
You're like, shit, man, I'm just, I'm, I'm hungry. Um, oh, that was fun, though, man.
Well, happy birthday, dude.

Speaker 2 I, you got what you do. I mean, just celebrate with the boys and yeah.

Speaker 2 You know, I'm married to a birth worker. My wife is a duelist, so she unfortunately, fortunately and unfortunately, got called into a birth.

Speaker 2 So I ended up solo dadding a little bit yesterday, but it was great because I didn't see the boys because I was coming.

Speaker 2 It's a little selfish by Brie, but we'll let it happen. No, I thought it was cool.
Another kid was born on my birthday.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 there's a spirit there, but also I'm coming off of Vegas, Matt. I'm coming off of Vegas.
So

Speaker 2 I, you know,

Speaker 2 we did the episode with Connolly and Dylan. And then a couple of weeks back, I was in LA because we shot a great,

Speaker 2 a great commercial for Visa Cash App. Shout out to Gen, our sponsor.
But also we kind of recaptured a little bit of that entourage vibe. I thought it came out really, really well.

Speaker 2 And then part of the arrangement was then we go to the F1 races. Now, I enjoy F1.
I love Drive to Survive on Netflix. You should cue that up on what will be, I guess, your last trip to Columbus, Ohio.

Speaker 2 Yes. But, you know, I can't say I'm a huge F1 nut at this point.

Speaker 2 At Visa Cash, you know, V-Carb is a great fun team, and they revealed the, you know, the livery, which I learned is the color and the wrap and the paint. So part of it was we go to Vegas.
So we go.

Speaker 2 And Matt,

Speaker 2 it had vibes of Coachella.

Speaker 2 And I'd say it's Coachella meets a little tech meets Kentucky Derby.

Speaker 2 One real quick. When was the last time you've been to Coachella?

Speaker 2 Because

Speaker 2 I went to Coachella last year. I went to the...
You went last year? Dude, I went to

Speaker 2 the Neon Carnival party. Sure.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 That's a big.

Speaker 2 I'm literally picturing F1 and all the videos that I'm seeing online, and I'm picturing the Neon Carnival. And it is, I mean, you neon carnival, you got people dressed up in all weird sorts of shit.

Speaker 2 Well, it got off to a great start because I get to my hotel room and I open up all the curtains and the track is right in the middle of Vegas. It's not off in the middle of the desert or a few miles.

Speaker 2 It's on the strip. So I open my window and I see the track and I see

Speaker 2 who, right? They were filming the Brad Pitt movie the night before the race. So until three in the morning, there's race cars going around and around the track.
So you get there.

Speaker 2 And this is what I mean, the access. Now, I know people will say, well, you went there with, you know, V-Carb.
So you had amazing access.

Speaker 2 There was more people in the garages than I thought in like the general population area. We get to the garage.
You walk right by the car. There's one rule when you're in the garage in the pit crew.

Speaker 2 There's this hub of computers and screens.

Speaker 2 You cannot take any video pictures, anything, because I think that's all the trade secrets. That's that team strategy.

Speaker 2 That would be like in football, getting the team's, you know, first 15 scripted plays. It's just the big no-no.
Anything else, though, Matt, you could do. The drivers are just walking around.

Speaker 2 So like, I feel like with F1,

Speaker 2 maybe their pitch and their play is what you're talking about. It's like, let's make this a spectacle.
The access.

Speaker 2 Guys are going to,

Speaker 2 it's a show. It's like, it's a show.
Like you said, it is a show. You're a movie.
You're in a party. And I feel like that's.

Speaker 2 kind of the angle they're pushing, it feels like, is what you're going to do. Well, wait till you hear this next part.
So we go into the garage, me, Kevin Dylan, Travis, Bennett.

Speaker 2 We meet the drivers, and then you just start watching the pick crew practice. They practice the tire change.
I have a great video of it, and they're timing it. And if it's off, they start again.

Speaker 2 It's like they're warming up. So that all happens.
Then we take a quick break. We go over to the Red Bull Reach Energy Station, which that's the party.
That's just a place to watch.

Speaker 2 People are Red Bull vodkas are flowing. So then we go back out to the grid, which is where they start, and they let all these people on.

Speaker 2 this is moments before the race there's 500 people walking the racetrack and i'm walking i start noticing i'm like this is the celebrity row it's uh dylan reconnected with axel rose they were buddies from back in the day cedric the entertainer i bumped at my star moment i bumped into rory mcelroy and he actually looked at me and

Speaker 2 opened up for a hug so i gave a big hug to Rory McElroy. It just was an insane thing.
Isn't that a great feeling when you're like, you're like, oh, he recognized me. Oh, for sure.
For sure. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And I know many of you might listen. Be like, oh, yeah, that's a real nice version.
That's not what everyone could do. I'm telling you, you could get the access.

Speaker 2 It's not, you know, like in Coachella, the VIP area becomes more populated than general population, like artist passes. I think that's what they have here.
It's not unachievable.

Speaker 2 I'm not pitching you courtside at the Knicks game, which is probably pretty. It's probably pretty expensive.
Yes and no.

Speaker 2 I think they make it semi-like as accessible as they can because they want to grow the sport and from all i heard we'll wrap this up and move on vegas was fun miami is fun i heard austin is the one if you're going to pick one to have a good time it sounds i mean it sounds like austin we'll go with cash app next time dude i'm in i want you to bet on all this you could

Speaker 2 i know nothing about f1 dude nothing i think you get into it oh yeah dude are you kidding me Last thing, though.

Speaker 2 What a weekend you have. You know, I try to figure out, obviously, I was never going to be a football, basketball, baseball player.
I never played golf as a kid.

Speaker 2 If I can go back and do it over again, I am the size of the prototypical driver. You don't want to be 6'5, matte liner.
You're too big. You can't fit in the car.

Speaker 2 You want to be wrapped up in a little box like me. I could have been a driver because I have the profile.
Jerry, let's be honest, dude. You would have been a horse jockey.
Come on.

Speaker 2 I think I'm slightly bigger than a horse jockey.

Speaker 2 I think they're not in my weight class.

Speaker 2 We could move on. You would have been a horse jockey.
it's okay

Speaker 2 i can't all right moving on weekend dude going into i mean happy birthday bro what a great weekend you had well the other thing i realized too between doing the commercial and having connollene dylan on the pod and then going to vegas with dylan for the weekend oh dylan still got the fast

Speaker 2 let me real quick how i mean getting a chance to be around him and you can just see i mean you told me like be prepared this guy's just he is who he is he's amazing he's elite he's very he's very one of a kind for sure and that i I walked away being like, he was as cool and as awesome as I would hope he was going to be.

Speaker 2 You know, obviously, because you just, you put him with the character and just whatever. How was it with him this past weekend? It's been incredible.

Speaker 2 I, for years, have almost been the straight man to him, setting him up. I try to think of it like a great point guard.
And I have this, this triple threat all-NBA player.

Speaker 2 And my job is to just get him the ball in the spots he likes. And one thing I know is I know where Dylan likes to score.

Speaker 2 So I now, for three weeks between the shoot, the pod, and going to Vegas, that's why I also started thinking of the reboot.

Speaker 2 Like, I guess it could happen because this fucking guy, as far as Johnny, he still has the fastball. I mean, he looks great.
He's in shape.

Speaker 2 He's still got it. When he takes off the glasses in that V-carb commercial.
Dylan goes, we got to get to Vegas, bro.

Speaker 2 The whole crew, I don't even know if they knew Entourage or not was just erupting and laughing.

Speaker 2 It's iconic, man. So maybe

Speaker 2 the reboot will happen. I kind of buried the lead, though.
It's rivalry week in college. Something you showed me at USC because I didn't get to go to college.

Speaker 2 You showed me, you know, all the statues were wrapped up just in case there's any vandalism. Although you can't vandalize anything in today's day, there's cameras everywhere.

Speaker 2 But people still try.

Speaker 2 And our throwback three is going to be top three sports team rivalry, not athlete team rivalry. And I feel like we also have one of your former rivals coming on the show today.

Speaker 2 We have Brady Quinn, who's now your boy, your contemporary. But you guys definitely bumped heads.
Oh, I mean,

Speaker 2 we still bump heads. We still bump heads all the time.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 USC's bigger rivalry is not UCLA. It's Notre Dame.
Notre Dame for sure, right? One, because it's been, and this isn't disrespect to UCLA, honestly, like that is just, it's been bigger.

Speaker 2 It's just a bigger national rivalry. and there's been more at stake when those two play over the course of history.
USCUCLA is sort of the city of LA rivalry.

Speaker 2 There's beef there, and it's fun. But for me, when I was playing, it was Notre Dame.
And

Speaker 2 I still can't stand Notre Dame.

Speaker 2 And I'll tell Brady that here in a little bit.

Speaker 2 Will he talk shit back to you in this interview coming up? I don't even know. Brady, Brady, I love Brady, but this dude loves Notre Dame like used to love craft services, dude.
Like he,

Speaker 2 he,

Speaker 2 it's just, it's just Notre Dame. Notre Dame people are a little, uh, you know, they're a little uppity.
They're a little,

Speaker 2 our shit don't stake. I will say, all that being said, Brady knows this.
Um, we battled three years in a row. He's got so many fun stories of that time.
Um, Brady was great.

Speaker 2 I mean, probably the best Notre Dame quarterback of all time outside.

Speaker 2 I mean, Joe Montana was there, obviously, but when you look at like collegiate and stats and like what he did, I mean, he's, i think he's there he's their all-time passer um but he's awesome man i'm excited to talk to him definitely gonna stir the pot similar by the way i tried to with you and warner yeah well no you by the way you don't even have to stir the pot the minute he gets on we'll just start talking shit but love it uh

Speaker 2 we're gonna ask him about this secretly one of the one of the greatest athletic families right brady quinn brady quinn

Speaker 2 a lot of a lot of in-laws a lot of professional athletes in that family oh like sisters married athletes. That's crazy.

Speaker 2 Like, people don't really, people really don't know, but it's like, all of a sudden you're like, wait, your sister's married to who? Wait. So they have an athlete factory cut.

Speaker 2 Their Thanksgiving table must be nuts. Oh, yeah.
Anyways, Brady's going to be awesome. All right.
Well, Brady will be great.

Speaker 2 And a couple of things I wanted to touch on on the NFL as we head into Thanksgiving football. And I've gotten a little bit of trouble for tweeting.

Speaker 2 Maybe we should just consider rotating and flexing like the Cowboys Giants giants game or stuff like that and i said it about lions fans and it was inappropriate i i finally i for the first time i walked back a take because i said that and all the lions fans like we're finally good we take the thanksgiving game seriously now you're saying we should take it away i apologize

Speaker 2 you just you just say things and you don't really

Speaker 2 you say you say things by a true just spoken like fan who's sitting a question like that yeah it's just a question i am but that's one of the takes i think is is just it's not one of your best takes it wasn't even a take it was just, it was in a slight opinion.

Speaker 2 But I will say Lions fans jumped me in the alleyway, and they turned me, though. They made good points, and I'm excited to watch them.
I think they're going to destroy anyone they play at this point.

Speaker 2 Goff, by the way, too,

Speaker 2 if Detroit wins out and gets the number one seed. With the Super Bowl also being in New Orleans in a dome, I looked at the rest of their schedule.

Speaker 2 There is a chance that Goff will have only played three outdoor games the whole year.

Speaker 2 Isn't that crazy? And all teams now starting to look into domes. You heard it about Cleveland.
You heard it about Buffalo. Are we heading toward dome football?

Speaker 2 Which, I don't know, you watched that Snow Glow game. I know everybody covered it.

Speaker 2 And I think Jameis really was bigger than the snow.

Speaker 2 The snow was great to watch, but he turned that into dude.

Speaker 2 I just watched, I watched this week a 13-minute NFL mic'd-up up Jameis Winston on the Cleveland Browns Instagram handle because they basically said, here's Jameis Winston mic'd up for 13 minutes because it's gold or whatever.

Speaker 2 And I was like, I literally watched all 13 minutes of it and I was pissing my pants laughing. He's the number one.
If we're doing a who do you want Mike to draft, he's first overall.

Speaker 2 He's the great guy. He's the best character in.

Speaker 2 You could argue. I haven't even thought about it.
He might be the best character in all of professional sports. I'm going to look right down the barrel of the camera.

Speaker 2 Jameis, Cleveland Browns, Coach Defanski, who I've gotten a chance to meet. My number one thing with this pod is I really want to sit down with Jameis for 30 minutes.
We'll wait till after the season.

Speaker 2 I get it. Jameis, if anyone associated with the Browns is watching, we would love to just hang and discuss life with you.
Come on the show. Throwbacks is a safe place.
Famous Jameis.

Speaker 2 I want him on the pod. The best, I'm telling you,

Speaker 2 the best character in all of professional sports. Book it.

Speaker 2 Name me one who's more just

Speaker 2 who has the personality that he does.

Speaker 2 You played in warm places. Did you ever have a snow game like that of memory or not really? Dude, I played in a Blizzard game at New England

Speaker 2 08. I think it was the year Brady tore his knee because Matt Gassman was a little bit more.
Oh, Star Chiefs. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And we're playing there in November, I think. So actually, we had, it was the the year we went to the Super Bowl and almost won.

Speaker 2 We got our ass kicked, I believe, on Thanksgiving night by the Eagles and McNab. And then, either the week before or two weeks before, we basically limped into the playoffs eight and eight.

Speaker 2 We went up to New England. It was a blizzard game.
It was when they had Moss and Welker and all that. And Welker was doing snow angels after he scored.
And I remember going there.

Speaker 2 And, you know, we're in Arizona, and we go there, and half our team is like, never seen snow.

Speaker 2 Never seen snow.

Speaker 2 They're from Florida or Texas or South Carolina. They just never, yeah, young kids never been in the snow.

Speaker 2 And obviously, snow games in the NFL happen this time of year and you'll get them in the playoff depending on who's in it, right?

Speaker 2 There's, you know, you can count on probably one to two hand snow games during the NFL season.

Speaker 2 And I remember

Speaker 2 might have been Kurt or a coach, and the minute everyone was like dancing in the snow, we were like, we're going to get our fucking ass game. screen.

Speaker 2 Snowball fight.

Speaker 2 December 12th. Okay, yeah,

Speaker 2 December 21st, 2008. So

Speaker 2 yeah, I mean, dude, like end of the year, basically. We got smoked.
I threw, I actually played. I was backing up Curt.
I got in.

Speaker 2 I threw, I threw a, I threw a touchdown to Larry down the sideline, which was pretty cool. But yeah, real snow.
Yeah, that was your only points. 47 to 7.
That was your only points.

Speaker 2 What's in Kevin Hart got a show called Cold as Balls? Yes. Let me tell you something.
It was was Cold as Balls on the sideline, dude. So I think

Speaker 2 you got guys that didn't see snow, but I, and I know Jameis' excitement and enthusiasm was amazing for snow. Well, that was his first, that was his first ever playing in a snow game.

Speaker 2 But I just wonder if you're playing in the Northeast where it snows quite often, if you're in Buffalo or New England or New York and you're just like, oh, yeah, it's a snow game. Love it.

Speaker 2 I feel like if I were a player, I'd be like, ah, here we go. Cause it's a whole, it becomes a different game.
Listen,

Speaker 2 I think we'd rather, I think you'd rather have snow than rain. Snow's better than rain.
I get that.

Speaker 2 You'd rather have snow than wind.

Speaker 2 Wind as a quarter, it's bad.

Speaker 2 That's why Windy City, Chicago, like even Buffalo, Buffalo's got a lot of wind. That's why it's like the whole, can your quarterback throw through the wind?

Speaker 2 I mean, that's a real thing when you're in there, dude. Like Chicago and all that, like you start to get that wind in that wind tunnel.
You're like, I mean, it's 20-mile-hour winds on game day.

Speaker 2 And it's like, where did this come from? So weather games are always an advantage for offense because

Speaker 2 you know, like, you at least know where you want to try to go.

Speaker 2 Well, that's what we always said as an offense when you go into that, like, hey, the D, we know where we're, we're, we're trying to go.

Speaker 2 That, the D, like, like, obviously your footwear and the slippery and all that kind of stuff. So

Speaker 2 you always, you have a really big advantage as an offense in weather games. Um, now, rain and all that, where you're slipping and sliding, that's like, I mean, all bets are kind of off.

Speaker 2 It's just, yeah, I mean, you got to get lucky. But snow games, snow games are fun.
I mean, I wouldn't say it's what we look forward to that.

Speaker 2 No, I'm trying to think of the acting equivalent. The only thing I could say with acting is, at least in my career, so often I'm playing opposite of what the season is.

Speaker 2 I remember doing the movie We're Supposed to Be Dead of Summer and it was November. We're out there in t-shirts and shorts and it was 38 degrees.

Speaker 2 I remember when we did the Sundance episode, there's a shot of us getting off the plane and pullovers and skull caps and all that. And we shot that at Ontario Airport in LA.
LA.

Speaker 2 It was 94 degrees and we were coming off the plane like we just are about to go skiing. So yeah, man, well, Jameis sold it for short.
Look, the NFL is bananas right now.

Speaker 2 I got to give a shout out to United because when I went to LA to do all our throwback stuff, I got all my bets in here in Cleveland because I live in a bet state.

Speaker 2 Shout outs to United for really figuring out plane Wi-Fi.

Speaker 2 Because I got on that plane at one o'clock. All the bets were in already.
We got to 10,000 feet. They turned the Wi-Fi on.
I ordered a drink. I got out my laptop.

Speaker 2 I basically started my row in the row behind me. I started a sports bar.
I had the game on. Everyone had the games on.
I had my bets going.

Speaker 2 I don't know. I give shout out for the Wi-Fi.
You could not be a United fan. Everyone is from an airline.
We're all very terrible.

Speaker 2 The Wi-Fi is on point. It didn't flicker.
I was at 1080p and it didn't flicker for four hours. That's just for our, that's just for our own internal humor.

Speaker 2 Is there anything better? Like, so you, you got that. I get that on Saturday afternoon when I fly home.
Like, like this weekend, I'll be in, I'll be in Ohio for Ohio State, Michigan.

Speaker 2 And I get a long, I'm connecting, I'm connecting through Atlanta. So I get that four and a half hour flight, which, by the way, is miserable at 10 o'clock at night.
But I just get there.

Speaker 2 I'm a couple, I'm a couple red wines deep.

Speaker 2 The group chat is flowing and just talking shit. And then I get to watch college football.
So like I don't fly on Sundays, but I get to fly on Saturdays.

Speaker 2 I have my little, you know, whatever Wi-Fi have it on the monitor if there's a TV. And then I have my YouTube TV on the app where I'm watching, you know, like NFL Red Zone.
I'm watching four games.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's glorious. Sitting by yourself, drinking, watching football with your, with your AirPods in, talking shit to your friends is like,

Speaker 2 well, you have to be a red zone guy because you don't have a NFL fandom, right? I really don't. You don't because you grew up in SoC.
Yeah, well,

Speaker 2 I went to Monday Night Football this week. Oh, you went to Charge? I was in Chargers.
It was a fun game. It was great.

Speaker 2 And I got asked that question when I was there. We were in a box.
We were hosted by some cool people, and we just had a blast, took the oldest coal. And I'm sitting there.

Speaker 2 I'm thinking, this is my third NFL game. I've ever been to

Speaker 2 sitting in the stands watching since I retired. I can name all three.
Super Bowl 2007,

Speaker 2 when the Giants beat Brady in Arizona. Arizona.
I was hosting there, so I was there.

Speaker 2 Rams, Cardinals, playoff game, maybe two years ago,

Speaker 2 maybe three years ago. Rams Super Bowl run, though.
I think that Ram

Speaker 2 run. I was at that game.
And then this game this week. And

Speaker 2 I would just say this.

Speaker 2 I'm not like a,

Speaker 2 I probably would lean Rams. I don't know.
I'm not, I'm like, I appreciate both they're in our they're in our town you know whatever

Speaker 2 I just walked away just more of a Lamar Jackson fan than I already was that was your takeaway it's just I just I

Speaker 2 know him fairly well from from college days from Heisman stuff he trains in the offseason with the with the same quarterback coach that Cole used to train like I just crossed paths with him and he is the best dude.

Speaker 2 He's awesome. He's just a great dude, a great kid.

Speaker 2 Just like kind of what you would expect, expect, like never has a bad word about anybody.

Speaker 2 He's just, I walked away thinking, like, man, Lamar Jackson's just fun to watch, man. Like, he's just a rare, it's that simple.
He's a rare athlete.

Speaker 2 You know, we, we, you and I kind of had like Michael Vick, right? Like when I was playing, Vick was like the first like real, like, like a video game. Throw, run, pass.
Lamar.

Speaker 2 Lamar is a video game out there, man, and he's just doing it at, at the highest level against the best athletes in the world. And I was like, dude, like, he's fun.
And it's Cole's favorite player.

Speaker 2 I'm just like,

Speaker 2 he's worth the ticket to go see. You know what I mean? Like, he's

Speaker 2 all of us. Yeah.
So you bring up, that's a good segue into the last thing I wanted to go to before we get to Brady.

Speaker 2 You know, he's the front. Lamar is the front runner, I believe, at this moment for MVP.
I haven't checked the odds in a little bit. He was or still is.

Speaker 2 And he probably will win it if he stays on this pace and the Ravens continue to win. And he will probably deserve it.
I think it'll be his third.

Speaker 2 However, I think this is the first time.

Speaker 2 I know we maybe sometimes at game five, we're like, oh, TJ Watts should be league MVP or this running back or this receiver.

Speaker 2 And it goes away and it flares out because they can't hold up the output to do with an MVP, you know, to compete with a quarterback for MVP.

Speaker 2 This is the first real time. I think there's two running backs and we're probably not going to win.
But I think this is the closest we've come since the last non-quarterback MVP.

Speaker 2 And I'm going to give you a little trivia before we move on to Brady.

Speaker 2 But this week we got Ravens Eagles.

Speaker 2 Saquon's been obviously unbelievable. If I have to have one more purse, I think even Kevin Hart was texting me.
Thank you for Saquon. Giants are fucking idiots.

Speaker 2 And Derrick Henry, for sure, I mean, 15 TDs and he's probably going to finish 20 plus.

Speaker 2 And you could make the argument, definitely with Saquon, you could make the argument that one of those two guys deserves real contention and they're playing each other this weekend.

Speaker 2 So if it becomes, we always get quarterback duels, there's always the, oh, Mahomes versus Josh Allen, this is going to decide.

Speaker 2 I feel like this Saquon Derrick Henry game could at least really advance the conversation to seriously consider a non-quarterback MVP.

Speaker 2 I'm looking up.

Speaker 2 I agree. I'm looking up Saquon.

Speaker 2 1,400 yards rushing already. It's 11 games in 12.

Speaker 2 I mean, he's going to break. I mean, he's going to break 2,000.

Speaker 2 I think he should be maybe number one. Like, I don't understand.
Like, this shouldn't be just. It's like the Heisman Trophy, right? The Heisman Trophy has always been typically a quarterback award.

Speaker 2 This year, it's going to change, I think. But it's like, this dude is having a year that we haven't seen in a long time.
And

Speaker 2 Philly might win the Super Bowl. I mean, that's how hot they are.
So, and then, and then Derrick Henry. I love this.
I love more of the story of Derrick Henry just leaving Tennessee.

Speaker 2 The whole running back narrative of like, you're too old. Don't pay him.
And

Speaker 2 don't pay these guys. And you can see you put, you get into a fit,

Speaker 2 a perfect scheme and a fit. And all of a sudden, it's like, this dude is like, I mean, he's, he's unbelievable, man.
He's freaking Hercules back there, dude.

Speaker 2 I get, you know, I love getting texts from Eagles fans. Thanks for Saquon.
Giants are idiots. There's no way Saquon Barkley's doing 40% of this on the Giants.

Speaker 2 And similarly, maybe Derrick Henry has eight. touchdowns on the Titans because he's still a monster.
He doesn't have 15.

Speaker 2 So there's something to be said as well about, all right, Derrick Henry with Lamar Jackson is wild. And then Saquon next to Jalen Hurts and that O-line and A.J.
Brown, it's pretty, pretty nuts.

Speaker 2 Josh Allen still is the MVP favorite at plus 150. Lamar is plus 250, but Saquon has cracked the top

Speaker 2 plus 475.

Speaker 2 And then that's an interesting bet. And

Speaker 2 Derrick Henry's not in the top eight or nine. Can you name, there's been eight non-quarterback MVPs since 1990.
Can you even name one? I mean, just, I know it's not an easy exercise.

Speaker 2 I have them right here, so I'll rattle them off. I don't know if you'll be surprised.
Ready?

Speaker 2 Yeah, you can't name one second. I'm just like name one.
Try.

Speaker 2 I would say either Randy Moss or Calvin Johnson. Incorrect.
You got to think, you really have to think running back.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 Adrian Peterson. Correct.
Ladanian Tomlinson. Correct.

Speaker 2 Did Derrick Henry win Chris Johnson? No, but great 2,000-yard seeds. I'll give you a hint.
Kurt Warner's favorite. I was about to say Marshall Falk.
Marshall Falk. Yeah.
Marshall Falk LT

Speaker 2 AP, you got

Speaker 2 Sean Alexander. That's the one I couldn't figure.
I totally forgot. I think it was 2005.
Dude, he had like 20 touchdowns. Yeah,

Speaker 2 ridiculous amount of touchdowns. Oh, interesting.

Speaker 2 I remember the Giants broke the fall start record that game in Seattle. Thurman Thomas,

Speaker 2 going back to the Bills.

Speaker 2 Emmett Smith, of course, with the Cowboys. And another sneaky one that was hard to remember.
Charlie Waters. No, Love Radro.
Terrell Davis. Terrell Davis.
And then the last one, Barry Sanders.

Speaker 2 Barry Sanders.

Speaker 2 Good for the RBs, baby.

Speaker 2 Good for the RBs. I'm getting a little sip for my Wendy's cup because you know that means we're about to do our Wendy's.
Can't get enough sauce moment of the week.

Speaker 2 I don't even know if this is a moment, this is a lifestyle. We're going to

Speaker 2 separate. Dude, for everybody that can't see right now, I'm just stretching like I've been stretching all week.
Why are you stretching like that, Matt?

Speaker 2 Dude, my sauce moment of the week has been just absolute, just

Speaker 2 a beautiful, it's just been a beautiful week. I've been home alone all week.
So I want to shout out

Speaker 2 the wife, the kids. They're in Miami.
Thanksgiving. They do this every week, every year.
I travel, right? So like I can't, I actually surprised them last year.

Speaker 2 I have been, I got home Saturday night.

Speaker 2 long flight, long day, big show. You know, it's just a lot.
Saturday's a lot. You just like, I don't sleep when I'm on the East Coast, all this stuff.
And I get home, my dogs aren't here.

Speaker 2 Even the dogs are out of the house.

Speaker 2 You don't even have to walk the dogs.

Speaker 2 I love my dogs, but sometimes they're the worst. They're harder than the kids.
Jeez, dude, stop barking. I get home at like 11.30 and I'm just like, I had a smile on my face.

Speaker 2 And all those guys out there, all those husbands, all those boyfriends, all those guys, they know the feeling of going home to an empty house, all those dads out there. And that's been my week, dude.

Speaker 2 And I'm not trying, listen, I'm not trying to gloat. I'm not trying to, you know, rub it in anyone's face.

Speaker 2 It's just, it's sometimes when you wake up and you got nothing to do, then, hey, I'm going to do the pod with my boy Jerry. You know, I'm going to, I'm going to do some notes for the show.

Speaker 2 I'm going to go play hoops with the oldest.

Speaker 2 I'm going to go play some hoops. I'm going to go to, I'm going to go to Monday night football.
Like, what a fucking week, dude. What a week.

Speaker 2 So it's so much different than being away. You're away all the time, right? So it's not so much even when I was just in L.A., it's not that.
It's being in your own home with your own stuff.

Speaker 2 Now, we love our kids and our wives. It's not saying.
By the way, let me actually say this before I get divorced.

Speaker 2 I love my wife. Do the disclaimer thing.
I'm a disclaimer guy. I FaceTime multiple.
I miss my boys. I miss them all.
I wish they were here. I do.
But

Speaker 2 it is nice when you're just like,

Speaker 2 you can just starfish in the middle of your bed, right? You can just, you can, you can sleep naked if you want. Maybe you already do.
I don't care.

Speaker 2 I'm just saying you could do walk around the house doing like, it's just lovely, dude. Actually, I was like, I was thinking about this.
I'm like,

Speaker 2 and this could be for everybody that's listening and would throw this up on social, but like, what, like, what's the number one thing you're going to do when you know you're waking up to an empty house?

Speaker 2 You might be home alone.

Speaker 2 You're just like honestly it's like the fact that there's nothing to do is what's the best about it you know what i mean you texted me this i thought long and hard because i've only experienced this thing you speak of once my wife and kids went to florida i had to work so brie took the kids with her dad to florida and i was home And I started thinking now, okay, and I would be like, you, I'd miss my kids, but what, what are the things I'd most want to do?

Speaker 2 And I think I figured it out because it's just something I don't get to do ever anymore.

Speaker 2 i would order some wendy's shout outs i definitely get some saucy nugs i go in my little basement cave and i would play video games on one screen while having whatever sports are on the other screen whether it's knicks football and have that going and i would just sit there with wendy saucy nugs video games and sports and i would go all night i do an all-nighter i used to do the all-nighter thing i'm a night owl i like to stay up as a parent you can't because you don't know what's coming in the morning So that's what I would do.

Speaker 2 I would be in the basement, saucy nugs, video games, sports, and I just wouldn't even look at the clock. I wouldn't even say I need to go.

Speaker 2 That's the thing. It's like, dude, I'm like, I might work out twice today.
I don't know. I might work out.
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Speaker 2 Brady, thank you for doing this.

Speaker 2 You know, I know you and Matt are tight. It's, it's rivalry week in college football.
I just got to go back. Can we go back for a minute?

Speaker 2 You guys have met on the field quite often and now you're boys, but take me back in time for a second. You know, you got Leinert coming in or you're going there.
What's the feelings like?

Speaker 1 So my true freshman year, because I started playing right away,

Speaker 1 I really didn't fully understand the magnitude of the Notre Dame, you know, Southern Cal robbery. And there's a ton of history behind it.
You'll probably hear about it all this week.

Speaker 1 But I grew up in the Midwest. You know, the schools I was looking at were Ohio State, Michigan, Notre Dame.

Speaker 1 And when it came down time to make my decision, uh, it was kind of tight between Notre Dame and Michigan.

Speaker 1 So, when I picked Notre Dame, I don't know, there's something about the matchup versus Michigan, who we played every year at that time that like stood out to me, like something to prove.

Speaker 1 And a lot of the guys that were looking at either one of those two schools, you know, you were very familiar with them from your recruiting visits and kind of keeping in touch, playing against each other if they're from the state of Ohio, et cetera.

Speaker 1 So, I

Speaker 1 was really like, like that was the matchup that I would always kind of looked at, was like, man, this is like everything.

Speaker 1 Although after my freshman year, like I started to understand, I should really say not even after, like before the game, I'll never forget, man, Joe Montana, who was like an idol, right?

Speaker 1 Like I grew up, I loved the Cleveland Browns, but I had family in Northern California. And so they would send me some 49ers gear.

Speaker 1 And I loved Jerry Rice, my first year played football, played receiver. So I love Jerry.
And obviously, I grew to love Joe Montana as his quarterback.

Speaker 1 So, you know, I grew up watching Joe have success. And then I translated kind of the Tom Brady, that like that next GOAT.

Speaker 1 And I just, I remember like being down on the field on a walkthrough before the game, and I see Joe's kids, I think it might have been Nate, they were throwing the football around.

Speaker 1 And so I was like, hey, here he throws it to me. I go to throw, and Joe almost like slaps my arm down as I'm like, going to go back.
I'm like, what the heck?

Speaker 1 He's like, do you want to throw this before the game tomorrow? And he was like, oh, we mess up your mechanics and your arm. I was like, no.

Speaker 2 So I tossed the ball for him.

Speaker 1 And like, Joe was always so cool, so late.

Speaker 1 And then talking with him a little bit, like, I started to get a better understanding of like what this meant to like so many people out in Cali, which like, again, I was ignorant to at that point.

Speaker 1 But also, I mean, ignorant to the fact that like USC, that year before I got there, was rolling, obviously with Carson. And then Matt, I think that was your first year starting in 03.

Speaker 1 And you guys, obviously, one of the greatest teams in college football history. So that was the most unfortunate part is I couldn't play a Southern Cal team now.
I had to play that era.

Speaker 2 Matt Richie and everyone. Hey, Doug,

Speaker 1 personal thing. So, like, why can't I have been born at a time where I get to play like this version of Southern Cal?

Speaker 2 I was telling Jerry earlier, it's like, and you had Notre Dame, Michigan, obviously, and we had USC, UCLA, and a little bit similar.

Speaker 2 Like, when I was there, it really wasn't a rivalry because UCLA wasn't good, but you go back to crosstown rivalries in the city of LA. It is important, right?

Speaker 2 The Battle of the Bell, like you can go back to some of the great years in the 90s and all that. But, like,

Speaker 2 I remember my freshman year,

Speaker 2 we went to Notre Dame and it was like our first time, going Pete's first time.

Speaker 2 So, we get there and we go early because we go see like the grotto and we go, we're like, it was almost became like a tourist thing. We were like, Pete wanted to do that.
We got our ass kicked, dude.

Speaker 2 It was Carlisle Holiday. Carlisle Holiday was a quarterback.

Speaker 2 And like, we lost and, like, who's your running back? You weren't there yet, but you had a good running back.

Speaker 2 And we just

Speaker 1 01.

Speaker 2 I think it was 01. Yeah.
So it would have been.

Speaker 1 So anyway, I can't remember. Julius Jones, maybe Ryan Grant, something like that.

Speaker 2 Oh, no, it was. I think it was both.
It was Julius Jones. Julius Jones for sure.

Speaker 2 And we got our ass kicked and never again. And Pete was like, next time we go back to that fucking place, we are, we're not, we're going, it's a business trip.

Speaker 2 So it was just like, and that's when I got a first, a taste of like, damn, this is a pretty cool, like the history. Notre Dame is like, Rudy was my favorite movie.
Brady makes fun.

Speaker 2 Like, Rudy's still my favorite sports movie.

Speaker 2 Like, no I'm serious like it's just like it was so cool to be a part of that and then and then to have those three years I mean we played three years against each other

Speaker 2 twice in South Bend which was awesome yeah well the last time well for me yeah yeah did you guys during that have any contact with each other?

Speaker 2 I mean, you're college kids, so it's different than when you're in the pros and you have an offseason, you work out with different guys.

Speaker 2 Did you guys have any contact over those three years or are you just seeing each other's sort of highlights?

Speaker 2 How do you, I mean, I'm curious about that. Any contact or no? The, I think, what was the year?

Speaker 2 Cause, like, I think we probably hated each other. I think we, we developed a hatred for each other.
I mean, hate's a strong word, but sports hate, though, not like personal hate.

Speaker 2 When I look back, no, when I look back, I'd be like, people ask, I'm like, Brady's my boy. It's like, my brother.
Fuck, I love Brady, but like, we did not like each other back then.

Speaker 2 And do you remember? Do you, I think we've told, we've told this story, but remember at the uh, I didn't tell Jarius, remember the uh, remember the coin flip senior year yes okay

Speaker 2 i think i said

Speaker 2 or my senior year we're at notre dame this is the bush push game you know this is all of that and like we're walking out to the coin flip the captains and i'm just like i don't know like i didn't really i didn't talk a lot of playing like but it was just one of those things and um i and brady's just like like look at him dude he's a great guy the guy was like 250 just chiseled just looked apart like

Speaker 2 yeah just jacked still jacked up and i think what did i say i was like i said something about oh you've been on steroids you're on bro you lay off the steroids at the at the at the coin flip yes at the coin flip like and i don't know

Speaker 2 bro that's like yeah well brady still calls me bro he calls me south bay bro but it was like one of the funny and when i look back i'm like it was one of the dumber exchanges but it was just like

Speaker 2 I fucking hate Notre Dame. I hate this guy.
I want to win. It was obviously a big game.
Like, that was just everything, but that was the moment. That was, that was the coin flip.

Speaker 2 That was the captains go out there and it's just like, dude, you still in Royds?

Speaker 1 What's stunked about playing them was obviously they were unbelievable at that time. Like you guys didn't lose, what, for two years in like that junior year until you lost against Texas?

Speaker 2 Yeah, sophomore, early my sophomore year and then the last game. Okay.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I just remember being like, it's not bad enough when you have to play a team that has like a lot of first round picks on their defensive front or a linebacker or wherever else.

Speaker 1 Well, then you're like trying to play a game where you've got to keep it away from their offense, which stunk.

Speaker 2 And because,

Speaker 1 and everyone will tell you this, Jerry, like, you know what a four-minute offense is, right? Yes.

Speaker 1 I was already when we played sleek, like paying attention to the play talk, be like, all right, we're going to snap this thing about two seconds left.

Speaker 1 Time to make it look like, like, we were like, this is like by design, just milking the clock to limit however many touch possessions they got. So

Speaker 2 it was a challenge.

Speaker 1 There's There's no doubt about it. Like I said before,

Speaker 1 like, unfortunately, we played USC during arguably the greatest era I think they probably ever had. I don't think that's like hyperbole.
It's probably the case.

Speaker 1 But look, I mean, USC was ahead of its time. You know, they had NIL before NIL was legalized, and that was

Speaker 1 beneficial, I think, to the company.

Speaker 2 You're so full of shit, dude.

Speaker 2 Listen, listen.

Speaker 2 Shut up. Shut up.
All right.

Speaker 2 Before we get

Speaker 2 this week's game, and I don't know, dude, we're going to bet on this. You're going to give me points.
I'm not, I'm already saying it right now. I'm not.

Speaker 2 I'm not too.

Speaker 2 I'm not.

Speaker 1 Jerry. Let me bring in Jerry.

Speaker 2 Okay. Hold on.
I want to ask you something. I want to ask you something before we get to this game.
Okay.

Speaker 2 I want to ask,

Speaker 2 I know we talk about Bush push at nauseum. I get it.
And I'm not even going to bring it up this week.

Speaker 2 Charlie Weiss. Charlie was your coach.
He coached Brady. Charlie's great.
Charlie was a great, fantastic fantastic coach,

Speaker 2 all levels. And you and I have told, like,

Speaker 2 there's got to be a Charlie Woy, Charlie Weiss story. It could be that game.
I mean, it could be, he came in our locker room after the game. I remember it.
Like, I had a lot of respect for him.

Speaker 2 Oh, really? Yeah, he did. He came in after cool.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it was pretty cool.

Speaker 2 But I know you got some great Charlie Weiss stuff.

Speaker 2 I mean, I actually just thought.

Speaker 2 Did he just MF you? Like, he had to MF you

Speaker 1 pretty much from the day he walked under our campus when I left to go to the NFL?

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 1 probably one of the times I was most caught off guard. And so Jerry, just so you know, like game day, we'll be at the hotel and meetings and whatnot in the morning.

Speaker 1 Then we go to the basilica and we have a mass. It's like an abbreviated mass.
And so we head out from the church. We do this walk all the way to the stadium.
And I want to say it was.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think it was my senior year versus North Carolina. And the weather had kind of turned.

Speaker 1 At one point, I think Henry Stroop, who was our equipment manager, had asked me, Hey, what socks do you want to wear? Like, do you want to wear the normal ones or shorter? Like longer ones.

Speaker 1 I'm like, I don't know. This would be cool.
Like, maybe wear the longer ones or whatever. And I always thought it was cooler anyway.
And so it was like, yeah,

Speaker 1 comment I think I made on like a Friday or something, like day before the game. And so we go for the walk, we get to the stadium.

Speaker 1 And before I even get to my locker, I'm hearing someone like run to come get me. And so I'm like, all right, what could this be about? And so I go to, I go to coach's locker.

Speaker 1 Like he had his own separate little office locker in there.

Speaker 1 And he's only wearing his underwear. And I'm like, at no point had I seen Coach in this capacity at any point in the last two years.
And so I was like taken back by the whole situation.

Speaker 2 And Mean Mark was under effing me about who do I think I am.

Speaker 1 I get to make these decisions on the uniform, everything else. I'm like.
completely blown away trying to be like what what did i do like what do you think this is it's socks

Speaker 1 it was the socks but he was he thought you were probably soft right he's like you're gonna wear high yeah no idea I just know that was one of the times I got mothered after more than anything else and he was just in his skivvies chewing me out uh that I'm getting a bit I'm getting a visual right now that is not a good visual six out um

Speaker 1 I also

Speaker 1 I'm not gonna throw him under the bus But I will say my junior year, our second game, we went to Ann Arbor and I think game day was there. It was a big match.

Speaker 1 I thought it was like a top five, whatever matchup, or they were top five.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 1 I just remember trying to go back up to the locker room. They have awful away locker rooms, by the way.
It's like the smallest, crappiest. You don't even have a locker.
You just have like a hook.

Speaker 1 And like, they put the crap on the wall on a hook.

Speaker 2 And like, that's it.

Speaker 1 And I remember being like, you can't go in the locker room.

Speaker 2 I was like, what do you mean?

Speaker 1 They're like, someone overflowed one of the toilets.

Speaker 2 Oh,

Speaker 1 I was like, we were out on the field almost the entire time. And I don't know who did it or what happened.
A lot of people threw in different names, different blame.

Speaker 1 But I remember like we had to take turns shuffling into like one area of the locker room because one of the toilets overflowed and there was like sewage like flooding in the locker locker.

Speaker 1 But that was uh, we ended up winning. Um, but that was that was another font memory of many.
I just, there's, there's so many ass shit, dude.

Speaker 2 Oh, so before, okay, real quick, that just, that just spawned a memory, and we talked about this on the pod a couple weeks ago. Before we dive into this week's game,

Speaker 2 Pee, peeing on the sideline. Okay.
I never knew that. So, so Jerry asked me this, and now they have the blue tent, right? And all this stuff.

Speaker 2 So, like, I, I basically said, because it, because it's a common question, like, people are always like, how do you go to the bathroom on the sideline? Typically, you don't, right?

Speaker 2 But if you have to pee, I always said, yeah, like, you just, you, you, you literally get on your knee, you have your trainers or whoever put the towels and you just, and you just take a piss, like usually behind like the Gatorade stand or something like that.

Speaker 2 And I always thought it was funny because I would do it. And Brady knows me now.
I'm kind of like a weird, like it's got weird like shit.

Speaker 2 I would be like doing it and your head like peeks over the table. And then you're just looking at like 80,000 people.
Like I can literally remember doing it in Houston. I do it all the time.
Right.

Speaker 2 So like, can you, can you co-sign with me? Did you ever have that? Like it happens. Now it's a little different.
I think you can go in the blue tent, like you're covered. I don't know.

Speaker 2 I went to Giant Steelers and I saw.

Speaker 2 Now that I was aware of it, I saw it all. I never noticed in every game I ever went to, I never just noticed players pissing.
You'd think they're getting medical attention or something.

Speaker 2 Straight Peter gazing.

Speaker 2 I saw one player walk out with like a bag of piss and he jokingly pretended to throw it

Speaker 2 at the Steeler fans.

Speaker 2 40 years of watching football, I never noticed any of that.

Speaker 1 So Notre Dame has gold pants.

Speaker 2 Yes, they do. Tell me you pissed your pants.

Speaker 1 I didn't. I never, honestly, like, I never had to do that.
Like, I never had to go to the bathroom. It was never an issue for me.

Speaker 1 I don't know why, but we definitely had guys who did just pee their pants because you really couldn't tell whether it was sweat or whether it was pee at that point.

Speaker 1 And so my only request to the old line was like, if it was our not the center, dude, you can't.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I was like, if you, I was like, if you piss your pants, I'm going to go right to the coach and be like, we're in shotgun the rest of the game.

Speaker 1 I want no part of this. No part of this.

Speaker 2 Dude, there's nothing worse than sweaty ass center pants. Oh, dude, it's worse.

Speaker 2 All right, dude, let's stop. I don't know.
Jerry had something. Let's stop.

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 2 my offer.

Speaker 1 Can I throw this out?

Speaker 2 Yes. You can throw it out, but

Speaker 2 I'm not doing it. Well, let's hear it first, man.
I haven't heard it yet.

Speaker 1 Thank you. I mean, it's just, you know, Matt doesn't live in the Midwest.
He doesn't have these matters. But here's the deal.

Speaker 1 This is what I've offered. Okay.
I'm offering Matthew Leinert the third.

Speaker 1 I'm offering him seven points, which is, I believe, is the spread or whatever the number goes to before kick. If it goes up, I'm still giving them to you.
Still getting them to you. Okay.

Speaker 1 If it goes down, I'm still giving you seven.

Speaker 2 All right.

Speaker 1 Now,

Speaker 1 if you win, all right,

Speaker 1 I have to travel to USC's bowl game and I have to wear USC gear. You don't even have to attend.
I will go by myself to their bowl game. Okay.

Speaker 2 Whoa. This is my

Speaker 1 way. My wife is going to be giving birth potentially like the third week of January.
She is going to be so ticked off that I'm going to have this like trip that pops up out of nowhere.

Speaker 1 to probably the west coast to have to go sit by myself and watch usc bowl game Okay. But

Speaker 2 let me intervene real quick. Let me intervene just really quick.
This is the same stupid shit that you did.

Speaker 1 The other side of it is, if I win, I'm going to have Matt Flyo private from Southern County. PJ.
Okay. Who said

Speaker 2 for their playoffs? Did you confirm that, by the way? Did you confirm that?

Speaker 1 Yes, I did. Shit.

Speaker 1 To Notre Dame for their playoff game, let's say December 20th, 8 p.m.

Speaker 2 Four days before Christmas. Christmas.

Speaker 2 But you'll be out in and out. That's a PJ.
You're in and out, buddy. Listen, dude,

Speaker 2 this is typical Brady, okay? Brady also made... No, well, I'm going to get there.
You also made a deal or a bet with Dan, with DP, our friend, all of our friends, Dan Patrick.

Speaker 2 About you would shave your head if Notre Dame lost to Army, knowing the fact that, good God, the Army was never going to beat Notre Dame.

Speaker 2 And you know damn well that USC is not going to even cover the points of Notre Dame.

Speaker 1 Yes, you do. Okay, you do.
Open up our Google Docs for our show right now. Did you see my score prediction?

Speaker 2 3427?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 2 Was that it? No. I don't care about your score prediction.
Why not? Wait, I care. We have Brady.

Speaker 2 This is typical Brady, dude. Brady knows.
Listen, any other year, I took the bet last year. It was awful.

Speaker 2 We got our ass kicked by 30 points.

Speaker 2 And I think it might have even been straight up.

Speaker 2 even, if even if you give me seven,

Speaker 2 I got freaking out. Dude, we're, yeah, I dressed up as a leprechaun on the show.
Gladly. By the way, I gladly, I leaned into it.
Okay. This is a little different.

Speaker 1 In the history of leprechauns.

Speaker 2 Because there's a lot of travel involved. Would you be willing to go a little higher on the points? And I do think it's seven and a half as we speak.
I mean, if he gave me 14 points, I'll take it.

Speaker 1 14?

Speaker 2 I was going to maybe say 10 and a half. Dude, you're literally top five in the country.

Speaker 2 By the way,

Speaker 2 we have one of the worst defenses in college.

Speaker 1 dick you're gonna run for 900 yards dude okay let me get to you know this your game's gonna play out okay okay let's this is what we're here for i think this game is gonna be a lot tighter than matt realizes all right and mind you he mentioned the dp prediction because i i told dp i said notre dam's gonna blow out army okay said that and that's why he pressed back and said if army wins you've got to shave your head and i said gladly because i know it's not going to happen Ohio State versus Indiana.

Speaker 1 What did I say on our show? I said, blowout. And we're not even supposed to be doing that because we're supposed to entice viewers.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 1 I didn't see the matchup working out well. I think this is going to be like quite possibly the closest game.
Actually, I'll put it this way.

Speaker 1 It'll be the closest game Notre Dame's played as far as being on the winning side of it.

Speaker 2 I do think Notre Dame wins, but I think it'll be risk fight. That's because they haven't played anybody, dude, but it doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 And USC can match up really well with Notre Dame at the skill position players. Woody Barks is a tremendous running back.
You know this.

Speaker 1 Your skill player is a wide receiver, and you've got a running quarterback like Notre Dame does. And so there's elements of like, if

Speaker 1 USC can stop the run, and mind you, like USC's defensive front is improved and it's better to matt's giving him credit.

Speaker 2 Brady, stop, just stop talking.

Speaker 1 Offensive part of Notre Dame has been banged up. It's not like they have been playing against a

Speaker 1 team. So I think it's going to be a three-point game.
Like, I think it's going to be banged up. Oh,

Speaker 2 dude.

Speaker 2 Man. Listen, listen.
As much as he's trying to sell this because he's a professional politician. We tell him this all the time.
This guy.

Speaker 2 I just, dude, I can't.

Speaker 2 I think my wife would leave me, dude, if I leave to Indianapolis, bro. This isn't even.
By the way,

Speaker 2 I would love to go.

Speaker 2 I would love to go PJ, Notre Dame, get booze with my boy, watch Notre Dame play in a college football playoff game. I would love to do that.
I would. I would.

Speaker 2 Four days before Christmas, telling my wife that after we travel all year.

Speaker 2 And by the way, the fact that, like,

Speaker 2 you, I don't even know what bowl game USC would go to. I don't, like, are we even eligible for a bowl game? Are they even

Speaker 2 getting into a bowl? That's

Speaker 1 like, I don't even know where I'm going.

Speaker 1 You could be

Speaker 2 what's the worst place you could be going? Like, what would be your biggest?

Speaker 2 I looked it up. I think, I mean, there's a good chance it could be the Vegas bowl.

Speaker 2 It could be worse.

Speaker 1 No, that would be fine. That would be perfectly fine.
Although, again,

Speaker 1 he's going to get photos of me wearing USC stuff, sitting all by myself up in the nosebleeds, watching this game. That's going to be miserable.

Speaker 1 By the way, to answer your question, I think the most miserable bowl game is probably the Sun Bowl.

Speaker 2 I was going to say El Paso.

Speaker 1 El Paso is going to be really cold at that time. It's an Elf Door venue.
It's not over the East. He didn't matter.

Speaker 2 I was looking.

Speaker 2 There is actually a, there is a small chance SC could play Oklahoma in a bowl game, which would be actually pretty fire.

Speaker 2 That would be fun. because they hate Lincoln.
I think you guys should do this. Listen, I think get it up to maybe 10 and a half, man.
I think negotiate for 10 and a half.

Speaker 2 This is the shitty part about this. This is what I'm going to do because I cannot, I can't.
I'm going to be that guy.

Speaker 2 I'm a big bet guy.

Speaker 2 I've always made good to my bets. I've actually lost.

Speaker 2 No, no, no, no. I'm not doing it.
I'm not doing it on. He's not doing it on the pod right now.

Speaker 2 We still have a couple days. We'll work something out.
It's a couple days.

Speaker 2 Let me think about this, B. Let me think.
I'm not backing out of a bet.

Speaker 2 I'd rather bet you,

Speaker 2 I'll bet you a thousand bucks. I'll bet you cash, whatever.
But the trip is going to be, I know, the, the trip is going to be tough. This isn't, this, the trip is going to be tough, dude.

Speaker 2 I'm just being honest with you. BQ, let me tell you something.
So Jerry got to experience being at USC with me last week.

Speaker 2 We did a lot of con, it was fun. And he was like, you know, we're walking around

Speaker 2 and he got to experience a little bit of what college college life was like.

Speaker 2 Jerry, I'm telling you, I'm telling you. I didn't go to college just like, just like as far as like.

Speaker 1 I mean, I know that's

Speaker 2 not, I mean, yeah, yeah,

Speaker 2 not that type of college life.

Speaker 2 Being on campus, like experiencing like,

Speaker 1 is that what happened here, dude?

Speaker 2 Damn, like, what was going on there? Jesus. I'm signing with USC.

Speaker 2 I, dude, I went. By the way, I mean, Notre Dame is a beautiful school.

Speaker 2 I mean, it's not USC in some other elements, but

Speaker 2 being on campus with Brady, Brady is the fucking mayor of South Bend, Indiana, dude. You are the mayor.
We even broke into his football locker room.

Speaker 2 Can I get a tour from it? Can I get, I mean, I did USC. It was really, honestly, it was really cool.
That's a show. I just go to college campuses and get tours from their legendary quarterbacks.

Speaker 2 Speaking,

Speaker 2 what'd you say? We did it for your social media.

Speaker 1 We literally broke into the locker room.

Speaker 1 Dude, that put the poor girl man you you were about to get her fired girls hosting us and you have to understand when i first got there the locker room in our stadium like was our only locker room we had to walk all the way across campus to go to the practice fields then by my junior year they built this like separate um locker room practice facility all this stuff right so they'd always said like hey the alarm goes on at like a certain time of night i'm like no it doesn't because i've had to get into the stadium before right go to my locker like back in the the day I was a freshman sophomore.

Speaker 1 So this girl's like, no, there's a, there's like an alarm. I'm like, they just say that.
I was like, no way that's true. So

Speaker 1 we go in and the alarm goes off. I'm like, oh, God, cops show up.
Everything.

Speaker 2 Brady was like, no, trust me, we're good. It was one of those like, we're good.
Like, you know, and obviously being with him, but then yeah, the cops came.

Speaker 2 The poor girl, I was like, dude, you're going to get this girl fired, dude. And Brady was like, I promise if anything happens, it's on me.
But it was, it was fantastic. Hey, real quick.

Speaker 2 I was telling Jerry and you mentioned your kids, and you got a whole starting lineup, and Alicia is going to have another one here pretty soon in a couple months.

Speaker 2 Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2 What is Thanksgiving like at the Quinn household? And then also, I don't think a lot of people know this about you and the family and the incredible athletic

Speaker 2 in-laws and the genes that your family, I was telling Jerry a little bit, explain the brother-in-laws and what it's like at the Quinn household.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so it's funny. You know, we, everything kind of worked out the way it did, but my older sister, Laura, is married to AJ Hawk.
So, by the way, I've got to talk to Leinert.

Speaker 1 I didn't get the best of AJ. We played like back when I was like in youth league.
He beat us in the championship of Centerville. And then we go to Ohio State.
He beats us in the festival.

Speaker 1 So I have to deal with that crap constantly.

Speaker 2 Bunch of bullshit, man. Yeah.

Speaker 1 What the fuck is going on?

Speaker 1 I don't even know if I can cuss on this.

Speaker 2 I don't know if I can do it. Yeah,

Speaker 2 that totally fine.

Speaker 1 So that's my my older brother-in-law. My younger brother-in-law is Jack Johnson.
He was a defenseman for the Columbus Blue Jackets. So he played.

Speaker 1 Obviously, my wife was in the 2008 Olympics. She's a very decorated Olympic gymnast, won a bunch of medals and world championships too.

Speaker 1 So they're extremely athletic and honestly, quite possibly the most athletic of the bunch is my little sister.

Speaker 1 So my little sister in women's soccer was like the three-time Gary and State player of of the year in Ohio.

Speaker 2 I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 They'd won two state championships. She went on a full ride to UVA.
She was on the Olympic development team. She ended up tearing up her knee twice, I believe sophomore and senior year.

Speaker 1 And so that kind of ended things for with how bad her knee was, but incredible athlete. Like everything LeBron won coming out of high school was like what she won.

Speaker 1 When it was like this, like a two, you know, two or three times.

Speaker 2 Dude, that's amazing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was incredible. So she's always the one that I try to give love to because no one really hears her story.
And she was a ridiculous athlete.

Speaker 1 Like if you go in our high school, like we're both in the hall of fame, she's the one that has like all these banners, right?

Speaker 1 Like, like, you know, we made it to the state semis with Forester High School, been in football. We won a state championship of baseball.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's okay.

Speaker 1 Like, they won't, they won two. There's always Gatorade State player of the year.
Banner's up. Like, damn.

Speaker 1 But that's our family. Like, we're an incredibly athletic, competitive family.
So there's essentially a fistfight over the turkey and the sides every Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2 You know what I wanted to ask you, Brady? Because look, you know, obviously you cover the game, but it's no secret to that you love the game.

Speaker 2 What, because I got excited just listening to maybe thinking about going to a Nordre Dame playoff game. That just sounds awesome.

Speaker 2 What coming into this season and what now excites you about just the playoff system? Because I'm hyped for it. I really am.
I think this changes everything.

Speaker 1 I think like the fact that you've got the Big 12 and like no one controls their own destiny.

Speaker 2 Like think about that.

Speaker 1 You have the last game of the regular season and you can't say that if any team wins, that they're definitively in the championship game.

Speaker 1 Like there's all these tie-breaking scenarios which it speaks to a little bit of the realignment but also just the fact of um you know the anticipation for like what has made the regular season better i think some people were concerned that if you expanded the playoff it would allow teams to lose more games and so it wouldn't be as intriguing but it's had the exact opposite effect now yeah like can you make a case for a three-loss sec team that loses in the conference championship.

Speaker 1 Like let's say Georgia goes to the SEC championship and loses with three losses. Like you look at the resume and like, well, they beat a lot of good teams, but they also lost three times.

Speaker 1 And you kind of measure who they lost against versus like an Indiana team that doesn't go to the championship or potentially couldn't, right? So got some time left.

Speaker 1 And then how that would factor out. So there's just, there's all those debates and conversations, which I think has actually been like healthy and good for college football.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I agree. I think it also opens up the potential even, even if we don't get it this year, for a Cinderella story, which is what makes college basketball so great.

Speaker 2 And what we see in the NFL, where it's like, yeah, you got, you know, the Juggernaut team.

Speaker 1 Are you like a Giants fan? Be it from Brooklyn?

Speaker 2 We're from Brooklyn.

Speaker 2 I grew up a Giants fan. We were talking about this earlier on the show, but now I'm a Red Zone fan because I just watched Scott.
Tommy Cutlets. Yeah, I can't even.

Speaker 2 We talk about other Giants.

Speaker 2 I talk more Giants than I've ever talked in my life on this pod, dude. It's just rough.
I was even thinking about this and almost wanted to ask both of you this.

Speaker 2 And it's unfair to ask now because there's going to be coaching changes. But if you look at the teams that need quarterbacks, there's quite a few of them.

Speaker 2 If you just look from afar, even though there will be coaching changes, if you're a quarterback coming in this year's draft, what organization are you looking at saying, well, I think, because Matt talks a lot about it's so important for a young quarterback, the fit and where they go and the coat and the infrastructure around them.

Speaker 2 And that's why I'm happy Bryce is starting to play well, even though they lost to the Chiefs.

Speaker 2 But so if you're looking, obviously the Giants, maybe the Jets, the Raiders, for sure, there's a solid four or five teams that need a quarterback.

Speaker 2 He just wants to know who's coming to the Giants.

Speaker 2 Is it Shador or who is it Cam Ward?

Speaker 1 So here's the problem with that is I think everyone would definitively view Shador as the number one quarterback.

Speaker 1 And then maybe it's Cam Ward or Carson Beck, depending on who it's up to and how you evaluate their tape.

Speaker 1 But that's the hard part is there's only going to be one team that puts themselves in position.

Speaker 1 And, you know, there's some leverage there then. If, like, Shapora and Dion know

Speaker 1 and they have a destination that they have in mind, I mean, he's really good at

Speaker 1 finding his way. That's how things work out.

Speaker 2 Vegas, baby, Vegas. That's going to happen.
It's going to happen this year.

Speaker 1 It's going to be really interesting. By the way, I'm not so sure the Giants move on from Brian Dable.
I think there's a chance they could stay with him.

Speaker 1 The off-season hard knocks couldn't have gone any worse.

Speaker 2 Like, it couldn't have gone any worse.

Speaker 2 Where the kid actually looks like he, you know, could be general manager as just as good at that point. But

Speaker 2 he's the one that makes it such a, I know it was such a bad, that was such a bad thing.

Speaker 1 You were overthinking this a little bit, but I think the Giants would be a great spot for any quarterback. And partly,

Speaker 1 they tended to be pretty patient. They've tended to try to build around that position.

Speaker 1 And I think from the quarterback who goes their standpoint, you don't have to do much in order to get a second contract. So, like,

Speaker 1 there's that.

Speaker 2 You just got to be average.

Speaker 1 Or, you know, whatever.

Speaker 2 But I'm just saying, like, that's, that's attractive, right?

Speaker 2 Like, listen, I have the talk all the time with my buddy who's just like, you know, it's great that Daniel Jones got the contract, but he shouldn't have. That's what you get.

Speaker 2 You took all the money and that's what you got.

Speaker 1 And you tagged him, agreed to the extension with Saquon. You could have let it play out another year with Daniel Jones.
That would have been ideally how it went.

Speaker 1 And all honesty, like, because they didn't pick up his fifth-year option, which is part of that. But

Speaker 1 here's the thing is I'll say is Matt, you're lucky because when i moved up from ohio from south florida i had a bunch of buddies and guys who are east coast they're from new york jersey philly boston all these different accents

Speaker 1 there's nothing like talking to like that east coast sports fan i know a guy like jerry like it makes me miss my boys makes me miss fasano all my boys uh down yeah because they're just oh we love fasano we love fasado

Speaker 2 dude what

Speaker 2 it's the the first time jerry and i hung out one of the first times we were in new York doing a lot of stuff for this and we were watching a Knicks game and it was my first real interaction to like he's a die.

Speaker 2 He's a diehard Knicks. He's a diehard New York fan, right? So I was like and as a West Coast I'm like the Knicks are my browns.

Speaker 2 It was just like watching a Knicks game and him and all like you're talking about it just was like, oh, this shit's great, dude.

Speaker 2 Like this is like a true New Yorker who loves his sports, talks every, I mean, we talk so much fucking giants, dude. I'm like, at this point, it's like Danny Jones is gone, dude.
He's gone.

Speaker 2 It's painful, though, to not have a meaningful game now in over two years.

Speaker 2 And even before that, years before that, that's why fantasy and betting is what I, I, I have, because it's been so good for both New York teams. But,

Speaker 2 you know, I was trying to, yeah, I was trying to sneak in you just saying the Giants would be a good place for a young quarterback. And you kind of did.
So I feel like it's a big victory for you.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. It'd be great.
Listen. Hey, we're going to finish.
We're going to figure out this bet before the game. Yes.
Okay.

Speaker 2 We appreciate you coming.

Speaker 2 Yes. Thank you.
And we'll get the bet. I'll get him to do something for you.
Thank you. Thank you.

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Matt, what is your money moment going into the weekend?

Speaker 2 Kind of earlier in the show, we're talking about, you know, just the wife being home and all this kind of stuff and I don't know if you did you catch the gender reveal that was that happened I think on the post game or pre-game of Monday Night Football this week yeah

Speaker 2 yes I did it's just it it just was a money moment for me because I just was so basically two two Ravens fans basically

Speaker 2 gave whatever I don't know an envelope or whatever and it was Van Pelt and Kelsey and the crew and Marcus Spears and

Speaker 2 they announced the gender reveal on live TV, I believe. And I just immediately, like, we're having a baby and we're not finding out the sex.

Speaker 2 And I just immediately thought, if I were to ask, like, genuinely ask my wife, hey, why don't we do a gender reveal at a football game on TV?

Speaker 2 The

Speaker 2 look that I would have gotten from her, she would have said, she literally, I will, she said i will cut your balls off if you ever do that like that's what she would say to me and she would look she would be dead serious i i don't i thought it was great i thought the moment was great i think it was fantastic i thought it was a unique way to do it it was unique i'm just saying like i try to put myself in those shoes and i was like dude my wife would laugh in my face and then say that to me right in this in the in five seconds so that was my money moment i thought it was great um

Speaker 2 it just that just wouldn't fly in my house I have a couple of things. The gender reveal stuff on Instagram has gone wild.
We've all seen the fails. It's gone too far.
We've never,

Speaker 2 we did one not for social, just amongst us in the family with our second kid, right? And it was cute. We didn't like do it and blast it out.

Speaker 2 The things I saw from that, number one, I felt if you really watched the flicker of the dad's reaction versus the mom's reaction, finding out when it's a boy, the dad instantly went, yeah.

Speaker 2 And the wife, you could see the flicker of like, fuck. And then when, yeah, I'm just look, I'm sure she's thrilled.
Maybe she wanted to pull that round. I'm not trying to, you know, project onto her.

Speaker 2 I thought I saw a flicker of,

Speaker 2 oh, yeah, that.

Speaker 2 And then I started thinking, wouldn't it be cool if that kid grows up to become a professional athlete? Cause then they're going to roll that clip for the rest of his rest of his life.

Speaker 2 I thought it was awesome. I think the reactions are the best.

Speaker 2 I had this similar experience when my little one was born, but we need to go into that.

Speaker 2 I do appreciate the ones, especially with dads who, where it's like their fifth girl, and they just kind of, oh, shit.

Speaker 2 By the way, what a rock star wife just wanting to do it on at Monday Night Football. That's pretty badass.
And you were there, Matt Liner. You were present for it.
All right. All right.

Speaker 2 What do you got, brother? So mine, you know, any chance I get to talk about golf, I get really excited.

Speaker 2 My money moment was Joel Damon. You know who Joel Damon is.
I've had the chance to shoot some stuff with Joel Damon on the golf course.

Speaker 2 Joel Damon star of full swing on Netflix. We talked Drive to Survive earlier.
Same company does full swing behind the scenes stuff. Joel Damon was the breakout star from that show.

Speaker 2 He's had a wild up and down career, but he's always had his PGA tour card. If you fall out of the 125 on the FedEx rankings, you lose your PGA tour card.
Like that's it. It's over.

Speaker 2 You can still play events, but you're almost like a fill-in. Joel Damon went into the tournament last week and I think he was 125,

Speaker 2 but he he was not playing well. And he had a five-foot putt that if he missed, I think he misses the cut, which would almost assuredly drop him out of the FedEx Cup.
He drills the putt.

Speaker 2 That's a money moment. And then

Speaker 2 he goes on. Hold on, let me pull it up.
So he's still at 125, and I think he goes on to shoot a 64

Speaker 2 to basically guarantee, and he finished 125 and retained this PGA tour card. You know what that means?

Speaker 2 He could play any PGA tour event. He could make his own schedule.
He didn't lose his card. Once you lose a card, it's very, very hard to get back there.
Joel Damon,

Speaker 2 not only a good guy, but stepped up when the money was on the line. Stepped up.
And that is my money moment. By the way,

Speaker 2 five-foot putts are harder than 20-foot putts sometimes because just the pressure of making those. With your PGA tour card on the line.

Speaker 2 By the way, golf is no joke, dude. Golf is no joke, man.
The pressure of the, like, it's you against the, it's you against everybody else. That's part of the reason why it's just like, shit, man.

Speaker 2 Well, we're going to be be seeing more at Joel Damon

Speaker 2 next year.

Speaker 2 All right, time for our throwback three.

Speaker 2 We were thinking, I guess, because it's rivalry week, like we said, and Brady Quinn, one of your rivals, it would be good to talk about throwback three sports team rivalry, heavy on the team, because if you start going down the individual athletes, we'll do athletes another time because there's so many, man.

Speaker 2 It's a whole other show. That's a good one.
So this one is team, Matt.

Speaker 2 Okay, so I'll start.

Speaker 2 I'm going to go three Lakers-Celtics.

Speaker 2 This could easily be number one of all time, however, you want. And by the way, like bird magic is maybe one of the biggest rivalries, too.

Speaker 2 Two of the most iconic sports brands, teams in the history of sports. They always will be, no matter what.

Speaker 2 The players, obviously, going back, I think, you know, 18 championships with the Celtics, 17 with the Lakers, going back to the olden days

Speaker 2 to recently.

Speaker 2 And I just remember like i'm a diehard laker fan kobe fan i remember being in europe for the run when they beat the celtics and i remember we would be out we'd either be out all night and get home and it would be on at like four in the morning there i would be either hammered watching it or for whatever reason we went to bed and we would get up i would get up at 3 30 or 4 in the morning to watch live back here those games and kobe to win that with kobe and gasal going up against obviously kg and Pierce and Rondo and all those guys.

Speaker 2 So, I would just say Lakers, Celtics, the hatred,

Speaker 2 the respect, the championships, the two best NBA franchises of all time. That's my number three.

Speaker 2 Yeah, mine is, I'm sticking in the NBA too, which is ironic because the Knicks certainly don't have any rivals because they haven't been good. But the rivalry I enjoyed the most,

Speaker 2 in addition to Lakers, Celtics, I'm going to go Cavs Warriors

Speaker 2 because they played each other.

Speaker 2 Warriors? Are you nuts? Go back in time. Warriors win, then the Cavs win, then the Warriors get Durant.
They play in the final. Oh, you're talking.
Oh, okay. You're talking about that.

Speaker 2 We're talking about LeBron versus the Warriors. Yeah.
And I was going back to like

Speaker 2 Brad Darney, Mark Price. Mark Price.
Brad Chris Mullen. Were they playing Chris Mullen and Tim Hardaway? No, it's the LeBron Cavs second go-around versus Steph and the Warriors.

Speaker 2 And you sprinkle in Durant, the 3-1 series.

Speaker 2 I don't think we'll ever get that again because I don't think we'll get, we'll see what LeBron, I don't think we'll get what LeBron did, where one team will be in the NBA finals every single year.

Speaker 2 And then the Warriors, epic, to me, that is a dynasty. I just don't think we'll see that.

Speaker 2 And those were, to me, the finals where, you know, even though those aren't your teams, you're still watching the stars in those finals.

Speaker 2 I mean, you had the greatest shooter of all time and Steph, and you have Artists. The greatest player.

Speaker 2 Probably the greatest player of all time. It was, Yeah, that was sprinkling Kyrie with 50-point games and J.R.
Smith grabbing the ball at the foul line, not knowing how much time is left.

Speaker 2 Down 3-1 series.

Speaker 2 That was the summer of Richard Jefferson. We like to call it a buddy of mine out here.
RJ just dunking on people. He hasn't dunked on anyone.

Speaker 2 And then Draymond hitting LeBron in the balls. It just was amazing.
So that's my number three.

Speaker 2 All right, number two.

Speaker 2 I'm going to be there this weekend, Ohio State, Michigan.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 I never knew,

Speaker 2 I'll be, I never knew the importance of this and what it meant until I started covering it. And obviously being around Urban Meyer, who coached in this for seven years.

Speaker 2 There is a

Speaker 2 disdain for both, like a hatred, hatred, hatred within those fan bases.

Speaker 2 College football and college sports, I think, are just different than professional, right? This goes back, I mean, the stories and all that.

Speaker 2 So Ohio State crosses out every M on campus, the week of Michigan, maybe before, every M, every M. And it doesn't matter where it is,

Speaker 2 it is an X, right?

Speaker 2 They, they refer to Michigan as the team up north. Coach Meyer has said the word Michigan, I think, twice since I've known him for six years.
And both times he said it, we all look at him like, coach.

Speaker 2 What the fuck? What did you just say? What did you just say? And he goes, and it's almost like

Speaker 2 a family member died. He's like, oh, shit.
Did you ask him on social how much money it would take to coach Michigan? Was that you? Yeah, I did. And he was like, no amount of money.
He's like, oh, man.

Speaker 2 Do you believe him? Like, if they offer Urban, we'll give you

Speaker 2 it. $75 million a year to coach Michigan.

Speaker 2 And then just the games. Like, I think Charles Woodson, David Boston back in the day, which is a good player, right? But you just like the moments.
And I cover it, man. I live it.

Speaker 2 There is like clocks in both locker rooms, 364 days until we play that team. And it's both ways.
It is remarkable.

Speaker 2 I think it's arguably the greatest rivalry in all the sports. I didn't put it as my number one, but it is up there.
And I encourage, it's a bucket list, like to go see. It is really, really cool.

Speaker 2 My number two, I'm sticking in college, but I'm sticking with basketball. And

Speaker 2 I've been to one of these in my life, and it was outstanding. Is it your number one? Yeah.
Are you going Duke Carolina, number one? Yep. All right.
Well, then let's talk about this. No,

Speaker 2 I haven't been to many college basketball games. I went to one Duke, Carolina game, and both teams weren't even good at this moment.
It was a down year for both teams. And I have never been.

Speaker 2 I've been in a lot of cool sporting environments. I don't get the college thing because I didn't go.
We discussed this even when we were at USC with you.

Speaker 2 But man, I understood it when I went to Duke and Carolina. And then you start thinking about the players and the coaches.

Speaker 2 Which did he go to? Did you go to Duke or did you go to the door? I went to Duke. Yeah.
I went to Duke. Cameron Indoors.
Cameron Indoor was nuts. You feel like you're on the high school gym.

Speaker 2 Yeah. So that has to be one of the, I think if they were all going to die, I think that'd be the last one to die almost.

Speaker 2 I think, yeah, that was my number one. And I'll just say, like, I, I, I went to one game.
And it was, Duke was very good. Carolina wasn't.

Speaker 2 So it wasn't like a great game, but I experienced everything you did. And I went with like a pretty big Duke person.
So we got the full, and I know Coach K a little bit. He was great.

Speaker 2 We got the full VIP treatment. And we sat courtside, like one row up right behind the announcer.
And I'm in here. I'm thinking like, this is high school basketball.
Like it's a high school gym.

Speaker 2 And the, and the, the Duke crazies, the student section. And then, as you said, like, like

Speaker 2 Reddick, uh, Grayson Allen, Leitner, Hansbrook, like like, talk about some of the most hated players.

Speaker 2 Hated. Dude.
And it's, what, 15 minutes down like Tobacco Road Road or whatever?

Speaker 2 It's by far, dude. I love that one, man.
Yeah, I didn't mean to step on your number one because. No, what's your number one?

Speaker 2 You know, we try not to be complete homers with this throwback three, but it is a personal one. It's Yankees Red Sox.
Okay, I was like, are we going to go somehow Giants in this thing?

Speaker 2 No, I tried to find a Giants rivalry. I know you did.
I know. They haven't beaten the Cowboys in like 12 years.
I don't even remember the last time we beat the Eagles in a meaningful game.

Speaker 2 There is no Giants rivalry.

Speaker 2 You can't even talk about the Giants, which is why Scott Hanson is so important because I'm a red zone guy. There's no shout out to the GOAT, by the way, the GOAT, Scott Hanson.

Speaker 2 That is completely it for me with that. So, but if you are even curious about the Red Sox-Yankees rivalry, obviously it goes way back to Babe Ruth, but go watch Jeter's dock.

Speaker 2 Go watch the captain, which is an amazing dock if you just respect a great athlete, even if you're not into Yankee porn like I am. And then

Speaker 2 if you are a Yankee fan, I encourage every Yankee fan, go watch the comeback on Netflix about the Red Sox 04. It hurts, but you really see what the rivalry means to both people, fans involved.

Speaker 2 Not even the teams, just the teams and the players, of course, but the fans.

Speaker 2 In 04, they were so ready to lose to the Yankees again. And they started drinking in the locker room.
It was Millard, this guy.

Speaker 2 They started drinking Jack Daniels, whatever they were drinking in the locker room, they win one game. And the next thing you know, history is made.
So go, go watch that stuff. That's the number one.

Speaker 2 And I think baseball, we just had Yankees, Dodgers, which was great. We really need the Yankees and the Red Sox to be good at the same time.
And it hasn't happened in a while.

Speaker 2 The Big Poppy era, man, Big Poppy was great.

Speaker 2 But rivalries are like, it's what makes sports so unique. It doesn't matter if it's collegiate, NFL, gosh, I mean, you could even do high school these days.
Like it is, it's, it's, it's so much fun.

Speaker 2 And then the history and the stories, that's why those docs are great, right? Because it just takes you back into like, like, like, how did they become the rival?

Speaker 2 How did it, like, where did this story start? Where did it start? Yeah, and I think that's so fascinating, man.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 All those bucket lists, man. Duke care.
That's the throwback three. Let us know yours because I'm sure we missed some.
And wait till we get to the athlete one, the individual one. That'll be great.

Speaker 2 Maddie, I know Thanksgiving is not a thing for you because you work and you travel on Thursday, but happy Thanksgiving and everybody listening out there, safe and healthy Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2 For me,

Speaker 2 yeah, for me, I know once the football's done and the turkey's eaten, Breeze family has a really cool tradition.

Speaker 2 The minute like football's over and we ate and dessert's done, they throw on Christmas vacation. It begins the Christmas movie season for them.
For their

Speaker 2 real quick, are you uh, are you uh glued to the couch on Thanksgiving or do you have to actually socialize? Well, we, we hosted two years in a row.

Speaker 2 We're not hosting this year, so now I'll get much more football and chilling. Where when you're hosting, I mean, I don't even even think I talk to anyone.
It's just

Speaker 2 hosting is a whole different thing. So, but seriously, everyone out there, happy, healthy Thanksgiving.
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