Rivalries renewed, the return of the running back and Brady Quinn joins the show!

But look, I mean, USC was ahead of its time. You know, they had NIL before NIL was legalized, and that was...
It was beneficial, I think. Oh, shut up.
Shut up. All right, all right.
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He's money. What's up, buddy? How you doing? Did you start an all right, all right, all right? Like Matthew? I went two all rights.
I i think if you do the third then you're treading on my i haven't i haven't seen you this happy and excited in a long time is it because you celebrated a birthday yes because you got reunited with your boys last week i mean what is going on dude i'm coming off a big week and we have a great show for you today i am overly overly caffeinated. But we had LA week last week with throwbacks.
I was out there. We did a lot of great interviews.
We shot our basketball stuff. But here's where I stand with the birthday stuff of why I'm so hyped up.
It's not because I got a cool present or because of anything. I just felt the love.
I felt the love. The social team made a great birthday video of me having the cake out in la uh you know my kids basically my 45th birthday it was their birthday like we just did whatever they wanted you got a glow today you got a glow today and look i think i think it's awesome when you get older as birthdays and what are you 45 i'm 45 my michael jordan Jordan comeback year.
And by the way, the biggest comeback year

you're gonna have.

It is something about as you get older,

not to get all sappy here,

but like you just appreciate,

you know, you appreciate family,

you appreciate friends,

you appreciate, you know, where you are in life

and obviously just like new things

and all that kind of stuff.

So it's awesome, man.

It's just good to see, it's just good man. It's just good to see you happy.

Yeah.

Last week, you know, you had, we're not going to get into it,

but you know, you had some down moments last week,

you know, obviously in LA with me.

I mean, we'll get into that a little bit later.

Some physical moments where you start realizing,

let's just say I saw a video of me running

and I was like, who's that old ass man running right now? And it was me. That's what happens, man.
That's why I never run. The gate is destroyed.
Oh, the gate. Well, I don't know if the gate was ever there.
I never had a gate. I had a gate, buddy.
Yeah, yeah. I mean...
I had a gate. Dude, I also...
It's so funny, dude, because I watched the Entourage movie this past was like i was just like going down the rabbit hole like you know what meeting the guys i'm gonna i'm gonna watch the movie on the plane i'm freaking in a four and that was your comeback that's when you lost all the weight i was pretty ripped in that movie one of the scenes was when piven was like ari was like whatever when you guys were pitching the movie or or he needed more funding in the movie, it was a shot to you losing all this weight. And I was like, that's my guy.
So it's funny how the jokes change and teaser for all of you out there, we did a great episode with Kevin Dillon and Kevin Connolly. And that one is coming soon.
We're just putting a bow on it and that one's coming and that one's going to be a good one. But it's funny and you could ask Doug Allen this with the Entourage movie.
I got into really, really good shape. I used to get a lot of fat jokes for eight years, seven years on the show.
Then season eight, I got in good shape and Doug was mad because now I have to write a whole new, I have to figure out new skinny jokes now. Let's just say you didn't miss craft services.
I mean, you didn't miss craft services on a day-to-day. No, Connelly used to be the one to talk me off the ledge when I was having weak moments and I'd go over to Crafty and there'd be like Krispy Kreme donuts and he'd just, Jerry, don't do it.
He'd just go right over the back. Crafty's dangerous, dude.
Crafty's dangerous. Oh, it's so bad.
Plus you're there all day. You're shooting.
You're like, shit, man, I'm just, I'm hungry. Well, that was fun though, man.
Well, happy birthday, dude. You got, what'd you do? I mean mean just celebrate with the boys and yeah uh you know i'm married to a birth worker my wife is a doula so she unfortunately fortunately and unfortunately got called into a birth so i ended up solo dadding a little bit yesterday but it was great because i didn't see the boys because i mean it's a little selfish by brie but we'll let it pass no i thought it was cool another kid was born on my birthday.
So there's a, there's a, a spirit there, but also I'm coming off of Vegas, Matt. I'm coming off of Vegas.
So I, you know, we, we did, we did the episode with Connelly and Dylan. And then a couple of weeks back, I was in LA cause we shot a great, a great commercial for Visa Cash App.
Shout out to getting a sponsor, but also we kind of recaptured a little bit of that Entourage vibe. I thought it came out really, really well.
And then part of the arrangement was then we go to the F1 races. Now I enjoy F1.
I love Drive to Survive on Netflix. You should cue that up on what will be, I guess your last trip to Columbus, Ohio.
But I can't say I'm a huge F1 nut at this point. At Visa Cash, VCarb is a great, fun team, and they revealed the livery, which I learned is the color and the wrap and the paint.
So part of it was we go to Vegas. So we go, and Matt, it had vibes of Coachella.
And I'd say it's Coachella meets a little tech meets Kentucky Derby. That's the vibe.
One real quick. When was the last time you've been to Coachella? Because I went to Coachella last year.
I went to the- You went last year? Dude, I went to the neon carnival party. Sure, yeah.
Yeah. That's a big- I'm literally picturing F1 and all the videos that I'm seeing online, and I'm picturing the neon carnival, and it is- I mean, you neon carnival, you got people dressed up in all weird sorts of shit.
Well, it got off to a great start because I get to my hotel room, and I open up all the curtains, and the track is right in the middle of Vegas. It's not off in the middle of the desert or a few miles.
It's on the strip. So I open my window and I see the track and I see- It felt like a who's who, right? They were filming the Brad Pitt movie the night before the race.
So until three in the morning, there's race cars going around and around the track. So you get there and this is what I mean, the access.
Now, I know people will say, well, you went there with V-Car, so you had amazing access. There was more people in the garages than I thought in the general population area.
We get to the garage. You walk right by the car.
There's one rule when you're in the garage in the pit crew. There's this hub of computers and screens.
You cannot take any video, pictures, anything, because I think that's all the trade secrets. That's that team's strategy.
That would be like in football, getting the team's first 15 scripted plays. It's just the big no-no.
Anything else though, Matt, you could do. The drivers are just walking around.
So like, I feel like with F1, maybe their pitch and their play is what you're talking about. It's like, let's make this a spectacle.
The access guys are going to, it's quick, but it's also like, it's a show. It's like, it's a show.
Like you said, it is a show. You're a movie, you're in a party.
And I feel like that's kind of the angle they're pushing. It like is what well wait till you hear this next part so we go into the garage me kevin dylan travis uh bennett we meet the rate the drivers and then you just start watching the pit crew practice they practice the tire change i have a great video of it and they're timing it and if it's off they start again it's like they're they're.
So that all happens. Then we take a quick break.
We go over to the Red Bull Energy Station, which that's the party. That's just a place to watch.
People are Red Bull vodkas are flowing. So then we go back out to the grid, which is where they start.
And they let all these people on. This is moments before the race.
There's 500 people walking the racetrack. And I'm walking.
I start noticing, I'm like, this is the celebrity row. It's Dylan reconnected with Axl Rose.
They were buddies from back in the day. Cedric, the entertainer.
I bumped it. My star moment, I bumped into Rory McIlroy.
And he actually looked at me and opened up for a hug. So I gave a big hug to Rory McIlroy.
It just was an insane thing. Isn't that a great feeling when you're like, oh, he recognized me.
Oh, for sure. For sure.
Yeah. And I know many of you might listen to like, oh yeah, that's a real nice version.
That's not what everyone could do. I'm telling you, you could get the access.
It's not, you know, like in Coachella, the VIP area becomes more populated than general population, like artist passes. I think that's what they have here.
It's not unachievable. I'm not pitching you courtside at the Knicks game, which is- It's probably pretty expensive.
Yes and no. I think they make it as accessible as they can because they want to grow the sport.
from all I heard, we'll wrap this up and move on.

Vegas was fun.

Miami is fun.

I heard Austin is the one.

If you're going to pick one to have a good time.

I mean,

it sounds like we'll go with cash at next time,

dude.

I'm in.

I want,

I want to bet on all this.

You could find it.

I know nothing about F1,

dude.

Nothing.

I think you would get into it.

Oh yeah,

dude.

Are you kidding me?

Last thing though. What a weekend you had.
You know, I, yeah, dude. Are you kidding me? Last thing, though.

What a weekend you had. You know, I try to figure out.
Obviously, I was never going to be a football,

basketball, baseball player.

I never played golf as a kid. If I can

go back and do it over again, I am

the size of the prototypical driver.

You don't want to be 6'5",

Matt Liner. You're too big.

You can't fit in the car. You want to be

wrapped up in a little box like me. I could have been a driver because I have the profile.
Jerry, let's be honest, dude. You would have been a horse jockey.
Come on. I think I'm slightly bigger than a horse.
I think they're not in my weight class. We could move on.
You would have been a horse jockey. It's okay.
I can't. All right.
Moving on. What a weekend, dude.
Going into, I mean, happy birthday, bro. What a great weekend you had.
Well, the other thing I realized too, between doing the commercial and having Connelly and Dylan on the pod and then going to Vegas with Dylan for the weekend, Dylan still got the fastball. Let me, real quick, how, I mean, getting a chance to be around him and you can just see, I mean, you told me like, be prepared.
This guy's just, he is who he is. He's amazing.
He's elite. He's very one of a kind for sure.
And I walked away being like, he was as cool and as awesome as I would hope he was going to be. You know, obviously, because you just, you put in with the character and just whatever.
How was it with him this past weekend? It's been incredible. I, for years, have almost been the straight man to him, setting him up.
I try to think of it like a great point guard, and I have this triple threat all-NBA player. And my job is to just get him the ball in the spots he likes.
And one thing I know is I know where Dylan likes to score. So I now, for three weeks, between the shoot, the pod, and going to Vegas, that's why I also started thinking of the reboot.
Like, I guess it could happen because this fucking guy, as far as Johnny, he still has the fastball. I mean, he looks great.
He's in shape. He's, he's still got it.
When he takes off the glasses and that V-carb commercial and goes, we got to get to Vegas, bro. The whole crew, I don't even know if they knew Entourage or not, was just erupting in laughter.
It's iconic, man. So maybe the reboot happened.
I kind of buried the lead, though. It's rivalry week in college.
Something you showed me at USC because I didn't get to go to college. You showed me all the statues were wrapped up just in case there's any vandalism, although you can't vandalize anything in today's day.
There's cameras everywhere, but we'll still try. And our throwback three is going to be top three sports team rivalry, not athlete team rivalry.
And I feel like we also have one of your former rivals coming on the show today. We have Brady Quinn, who's now your boy, your contemporary, but you guys definitely bumped heads back in the day, right? We still bump heads.
We still bump heads all the time. So USC's bigger rivalry is not UCLA.
It's Notre Dame. Notre Dame for sure, right? One, because it's been, and this isn't disrespect to UCLA, honestly.
Like that is just, it's been bigger. It's just a bigger national rivalry.
And there's been more at stake when those two play over the course of history. USC-UCLA is sort of the city of LA rivalry.
There's beef there and it's fun. But for me, when I was playing, it was Notre Dame.
And I still stand Notre Dame. Um, and I'll tell Brady that here in a little bit.
Um, will he talk shit back to you in this interview coming up? I'll even know Brady, Brady, Brady. I love Brady, but this dude loves Notre Dame.
Like you used to love craft services, dude. Like he, he, it's just, it's just Notre Dame.
Notre Dame people are a little, you know, they're a little uppity. They're a little, a little, our shit don't stink.
I was, all that being said, Brady knows this. We battled three years in a row.
He's got so many fun stories of that time. Brady was great.
I mean, probably the best Notre Dame quarterback of all time outside. I mean, Joe Montana was there obviously,, but when you look at collegiate and stats and what he did, I think he's their all-time passer, but he's awesome, man.
I'm excited to talk to him. Definitely going to stir the pot, similarly how I tried to with you and Warner.
By the way, you don't even have to stir the pot. The minute he gets on, we'll just start talking shit.
But we're going to ask him about this. Secretly, one of the greatest athletic families, right? Brady Quinn? Brady Quinn.
A lot of in-laws, a lot of professional athletes in that family. Oh, like sisters married athletes? Yeah don't really people really don't know

but it's like all of a sudden you're like wait your sister's married to who wait so they have an athlete factory cut their thanksgiving table must be nuts oh yeah anyways brady's gonna be awesome all right well brady will be great and a couple of things i wanted to touch on on the nfl as we head into thanksgiving football and i've gotten a little bit of trouble for tweeting, maybe we should just

consider rotating and

flexing like the Cowboys

giant. We head into Thanksgiving football and I, I've gotten a little bit of trouble for tweeting.
Maybe we should just consider rotating and flexing like the Cowboys giants game or stuff like that. And I said it about lions fans and it was inappropriate.
I finally, I, for the first time I walked back a take cause I said that and all the lions fans like we're finally good. We take the Thanksgiving game seriously.
Now you're saying we should take it away. I apologize.
Sorry. You just say things and you don't really you say things by a true just spoken like fan who's sitting in your basement.
It's like a question. Yeah, it's just a question.
That's one of the takes I think is just it's not one of your best takes. It wasn't even a take.
It was just it was in a slight opinion but I will say Lions fans jumped me in the alleyway. And they turned me, though.
They made good points, and I'm excited to watch them. I think they're going to destroy anyone they play at this point.
Goff, by the way, too, if Detroit wins out and gets the number one seed, with the Super Bowl also being in New Orleans in a dome, I looked at the rest of their schedule. There is a chance that Goff will have only played three outdoor games the whole year.
Isn't that crazy? And all teams now starting to look into domes. You heard it about Cleveland.
You heard it about Buffalo. Are we heading toward dome football? Which, I don't know, you watch that snow globe game.
I know everybody covered it. Jay.
And I think Jameis really was bigger than the snow. The snow was great to watch, but he turned that into an event.
I just watched, I watched this week, a 13 minute NFL mic'd up Jameis Winston on the Cleveland Browns Instagram handle, because they basically said, here's Jameis Winston mic'd up for 13 minutes because it's gold or whatever they have. And I was like, I literally watched all 13 minutes of it and I was pissing my pants laughing.
He's the number one. If we're doing a, who do you want mic'd up draft? He's first overall.
He's the best best character in you could, you could argue. I don't even thought about, he might be the best character in all of professional sports.
I'm going to look right down the barrel, the camera, Jameis Cleveland Browns coach the fans key, who I've gotten a chance to meet my number one thing with this pod is I really want to sit down with Jameis for 30 minutes. We'll wait till after the season.
I get it. Jameis, if anyone associated with the Browns is watching, we would love to just hang and discuss life with you.
Come on the show. Throwbacks is a safe place.
Famous Jameis. I want him on the pod.
The best, I'm telling you, the best character in all of professional sports. Book it.
Name me one who's more just,'s the personality that he does you were you played in warm places did you ever have a snow game like that of memory or not really dude i played in a blizzard game at new england uh oh eight i think it was the oh it was the year brady tore tore his knee because matt oh against the chiefs yeah um and we're playing there in November, I think. So actually we had, it was the year we went to the super bowl and almost won.
We got our ass kicked, I believe on Thanksgiving night by the, by the Eagles and McNabb. And then either the week before, two weeks before we basically limped into the playoffs, eight and eight, we went up to new England.
It was a blizzard game. It was, it was when they had Moss and Welker and all that.
And Welker, Welker was doing snow angels after he scored. And I remember going there and, you know, we're in Arizona and we go there and half our team is like, never seen snow, never seen snow.
And they're from Florida or Texas or SoCal or socal they just never yeah young kids never been in the snow and obviously snow games in the fl happen this time of year and you'll get them in the playoff depending who's in it right there's you know you can count on probably one to two hands snow games during the nfl season um and i remember i might have been kurt or a coach and the minute everyone was like dancing in the snow, we were like, we're going to get our fucking slow ball fight. December, December 21st, 2008.
So yeah, I mean, dude, like end of the year, basically we got smoked. I threw, I actually played.
I was backing up Kurt. I got in, I threw, I threw a, I threw a touchdown to Larry down the sideline, which was pretty cool.
But yeah, real. So yeah, that was your only points.
47 to seven. That was your only points.
What's what, isn't Kevin Hart got a show called cold as balls. Yes.
Let me tell you something. It was cold as balls on the sideline.
So I, you got guys who didn't see snow, but I... And I know Jameis' excitement and enthusiasm was amazing for snow.
Well, that was his first... That was his first ever playing in a snow game.
But I just wonder if you're playing in the Northeast where it snows quite often, if you're in Buffalo or New England or New York and you're just like, oh, yeah, it's a snow game. Love it.
I feel like if I were a player, I'd be like, ah, here we, cause it's a whole, it becomes a different game. Listen, I think we'd rather, I think you'd rather have snow than rain.
Snow's better than rain. I get that.
Uh, you'd rather have snow than wind. Wind, wind is a, it's bad.
Wind, that's why windy city, Chicago, like even Buffalo, Buffalo's got a lot of wind. That's why it's like the whole, can your quarterback throw through the wind? I mean, that's a real thing when you're in there, dude, like Chicago and all that, like you start to get that wind in that wind tunnel.
You're like, I mean, it's 20 mile an hour winds on game day. And it's like, where did this come from? So weather games are always an advantage for offense because you know, like, you at least know where you want to try to go.
Well, that's what we always said as an offense when you go into that like hey the d we know where we're we're trying to go that the d like like obviously your footwear and the slippery and all that kind of stuff so uh you always you have a really big advantage as an offense in weather games um now rain and all that where you're slipping and sliding that's like i mean all bets are kind of off. It's just, yeah.
I mean, you got to get lucky. But snow games are fun.
I mean, I wouldn't say it's what we look forward to that. No, I'm trying to think of the acting equivalent.
The only thing I could say with acting is, at least in my career, so often I'm playing opposite of what the season is. I remember doing a movie where it's supposed to be dead as summer and it was November.
We're out there in t-shirts and shorts and it was 38 degrees. I remember when we did the Sundance episode, there's a shot of us getting off the plane and pullovers and skull caps and all that.
And we shot that at Ontario airport in LA. It was 94 degrees and we were coming off the plane like we just are about to go skiing.
So yeah, man. Well, Jameis sold it for sure.
Look, the NFL is bananas right now. I got to give a shout out to United because when I went to LA to do all our throwback stuff, I got all my bets in here in Cleveland.
Cause I live in a bet state shout outs to United for really figuring out plane wifi because I got on that plane at one o'clock.

All the bets were in already.

We got to 10,000 feet.

They turned the Wi-Fi on.

I ordered a drink.

I got out my laptop.

I basically started my row and the row behind me, I started a sports bar.

I had the game on.

Everyone had the games on.

I had my bets going.

I don't know. I give a shout out for the Wi-Fi.
You could not be a United fan. Everyone had the games on.
I had my bets going. I don't know.

I give a shout out for the Wi-Fi.

You could not be a United Fed.

Everyone has their own airline.

We're all very territorial.

I'm not saying anything.

The Wi-Fi is on point.

It didn't flicker.

I was at 1080p and it didn't flicker for four hours.

That's just for our own internal humor.

Is there anything better?

So you got that. I get that on Saturday afternoon when I fly home.
This weekend, I'll be in Ohio for Ohio State, Michigan. And I get a long, I'm connecting through Atlanta.
So I get that four and a half hour flight, which by the way, is miserable at 10 o'clock at night. but I just get there.
I'm a couple red wines deep.

The group chat is flowing and just talking shit.

And then I get to watch college football.

So like I don't fly on Sundays,

but I get to fly on Saturdays.

I have my little, you know,

whatever wifi, I have it on the monitor if there's a TV.

And then I have my YouTube TV on the app

where I'm watching, you know, like NFL Red Zone.

I'm watching four games at a time. Yeah, Red drinking watching football with your with your airpods in talking shit to your friends is like well you have to be a red zone guy because you don't have a nfl fandom right i really don't i don't because you grew up in socal i went i went to i I went to, I went to Monday night football this week.
Oh, you went to charge. That was a fun game.
It was great. I was, I, I, I was, uh, it's, I, and I got asked that question when I was there, we were in a box, uh, we were hosted by some cool people and we just had a blast, took the oldest coal and I'm sitting there.
I'm thinking this is my third NFL game I've ever been to sitting as a sitting in the stands watching since I retired. I can name all three Super Bowl 2007 when the Giants beat Brady in Arizona.
Arizona was hosting there. So I was there.
Rams Cardinals playoff game maybe two years ago. Maybe three years ago.
Ram Super Bowl years ago. Rams Superbowl run though.
I was at that game and then this game this week. And I would just say this, my, I'm not like a, I probably would lean Rams.
I don't know. I'm not, I'm like, I appreciate both.
They're in, they're in our town, you know, whatever. Uh, I just walked away just more of a Lamar Jackson fan than I already was.
That was your takeaway? It's just, I just, I know him fairly well from college days, from Heisman stuff. He trains in the off season with the same quarterback coach that Cole used to train.
Like I just crossed paths with him and he is the best dude. He's awesome.
He's just a great dude, a great kid. Love just like kind of what you would expect.
Like never has a bad word about anybody. He's just, I walked away thinking like, man, Lamar Jackson's just fun to watch, man.
Like he's just a rare, it gets that simple. He's a rare athlete.
You know, we, we, you and I kind of had like Michael Vick, right? Like when I was playing, it was like the first, like real, like, like a video game, throw run past, just Lamar, Lamar is a video game out there, man. And he's just doing it at the highest level against the best athletes in the world.
And I was like, dude, like he's fine. And it's Cole's favorite player.
I'm just like, he was, he's worth, he's like, he's worth the ticket to go see, you know what I mean? Fox office. Yeah.
So you bring up, that's a good segue into the last thing I wanted to go to before we get to Brady. You know, he's the front, Lamar's the front runner, I believe at this moment for MVP.
I haven't checked the odds in a little bit. He was or still is.
And he probably will win it if he stays on this pace and the Ravens continue to win and he will probably deserve it. I think it'll be his third.
However, I think this is the first time I know we've maybe sometimes at game five we're like, oh TJ Watt should be league MVP or this running back or this receiver and it goes away and it flares out because they can't hold up the output to do with an MVP, you know, to compete with a quarterback for MVP. This is the first real time.
I think there's two running backs and we're probably not going to win, but I think this is the closest we've come since the last non-quarterback MVP. And I'm going to give you a little trivia before we move on to Brady.
But this week we got Ravens Eagles. Saquon's been obviously unbelievable.
If I have to have one more purse, I think even Kevin Hart was texting me, thank you for Saquon, Giants are fucking idiots. And Derrick Henry, for sure, I mean, 15 TDs, and he's probably going to finish 20 plus.
And you could make the argument, definitely with Saquon, you could make the argument that one of those two guys deserves real contention and they're playing each other this weekend. So if it becomes, we always get quarterback duels.
There's always the, oh, Mahomes versus Josh Allen. This is going to decide.
I feel like this Saquon-Derek Henry game could at least really advance the conversation to seriously consider a non-quarterback MVP. I'm looking up.
I agree. I'm looking up, say, 1,400 yards rushing already.
It's 11 games in 12. I mean, he's going to break 2,000.
I think he should be maybe number one. I don't understand.
I think so. It's like the He the Heisman trophy, right? The Heisman trophy has always been typically a quarterback award.
This year it's going to change, I think. But it's like, this dude is having a year that we haven't seen in a long time.
And Philly might win the Superbowl. I mean, that's how hot they are.
So, and then, and then Derrick Henry, I love this. I love more of the story of Derrick Henry, just leaving Tennessee, the whole running back narrative of like, you're too old.
Don't pay him. And don't pay him.
Don't pay these guys. And you can see you put, you get into a fit, a perfect scheme and a fit.
And all of a sudden it's like, this dude is like, I mean, he's, he's unbelievable, man. He's freaking Hercules back there.
I get, you know, I love getting texts from Eagles fans. Thanks for Saquon.quon giants are idiots there's no way saquon barkley's doing 40 of this on the giants and similarly i maybe derrick henry has eight touchdowns on the titans because he's still a monster he doesn't have 15 so there's something to be said as well about all right derrick henry with lamar jackson is wild and then saquon next to jalen hurtsts and that O-line and A.J.
Brown, it's pretty, pretty nuts. Josh Allen still is the MVP favorite at plus 150.
Lamar's plus 250. But Saquon has cracked the top three, plus 475.
And that's an interesting bet. And Derek Henry's not in the top eight or nine.
Can you name, there's been eight non-quarterback MVPs since 1990. Can you even name one? I mean, just, I know it's not an easy exercise.
I have them right here, so I'll rattle them off. I don't know if you'd be surprised.
Ready? Yeah. Let me see if I can name one.
Try. I would say either Randy Moss or Calvin Johnson.
Incorrect. You got to think, you have to think running back.

It's all running backs.

Adrian Peterson.

Correct.

LaDainian Tomlinson.

Correct.

Did Derek Henry want, Chris Johnson?

No, but great 2,000-yard season.

I'll give you a hint.

Kurt Warner's favorite running back.

I was about to say Marshall Falk.

Marshall Falk, yeah.

Marshall Falk, LT. AP, you got.
AP. Sean Alexander.
That's the one I couldn't figure. I totally forgot.
I think it was 2005. Dude, you had like 27 touchdowns.
Yeah, I remember. Ridiculous amount of touchdowns.
Oh, interesting. I remember the Giants broke the false start record that game in Seattle.

Thurman Thomas, going back to the Bills.

Emmitt Smith, of course, with the Cowboys.

And another sneaky one that was hard to remember.

Ricky Waters?

No.

Oh, Terrell Davis.

Terrell Davis.

And the last one, Barry Sanders.

Barry Sanders.

Good for the RBs, baby.

Good for the RBs.

I'm getting a little sip from my Wendy's cup

because you know that means we're about to do our Wendy's

can't get enough sauce moment of the week.

I don't even know if this is a moment.

This is a lifestyle.

We're going to maybe separate.

Dude, for everybody that can't see right now,

I'm just stretching like I've been stretching all week.

Why are you stretching like that, Matt?

Dude, my sauce moment of the week has been just absolute,

just a beautiful, it's just been a beautiful week.

I've been home alone all week.

So I want to shout out the wife, the kids.

They're in Miami, Thanksgiving.

Wow.

They do this every year.

I travel, right?

So like I can't, I actually surprised them last year.

But I have been, I got home Saturday night.

Thank you. year i travel right so like i can't i actually surprised him last year but um i have been i've got home saturday night long flight long day big show you know just a lot like saturday's a lot you're just like i don't sleep when i'm on the east coast all this stuff and i get home my dogs aren't here um even the dogs are at the house you don't even have to walk the dog bro i love my dogs but dogs, but sometimes they're the worst.
They're harder than the kids. Jeez, dude, stop barking.
I get home at like 1130 and I'm just like, I had a smile on my face. And all those guys out there, all those husbands, all those boyfriends, all those, they know the feeling of going home to an empty house.
All those dads out there. And that's been my week, dude.
And I'm not trying, listen, I'm not trying to gloat. I'm not trying to, you know, rubbing in anyone's face.
It's just, it's sometimes when you wake up and you got nothing to do, then, Hey, I'm going to do the pod with my boy, Jerry. You know, I'm going to, I'm going to do some notes for the show.
I'm going to go play hoops with the oldest this you know i'm gonna go play some hoops i'm gonna go to i'm gonna go to monday night football like what a fucking week dude what a week and so it's so much different than being away you're away all the time right so it's not so much even when i was just in la it's not that it's being in your own home with your own stuff now this we love our love our kids and our wives. It's not saying, by the way, let me, let me actually say this before, before I get

divorced. I love my, I love my wife.
Do the disclaimer thing. I'm a disclaimer guy.
Yeah.

I FaceTime multiple. I miss my boys.
I miss them all. I wish they were here.
I do, but it is,

it is like, it is nice when you're just like, you can just starfish in the middle of your bed, right? You can just, you bed. You can sleep naked if you want.
Maybe you already do. I don't care.
I'm just saying you can walk around the house doing... It's just lovely, dude.
Actually, I was thinking about this. I'm like, and this could be for everybody that's listening and we'll throw this up on social, but what's the number one thing you're going to do when you know you're waking up to an empty house, you might go home alone.
You're just like, honestly, it's like the fact that there's nothing to do is what's the best about it. You know what I mean? You texted me this.
I thought long and hard because I've only experienced this thing. You speak of once my wife and kids went to Florida.
I had to work. So Bree took the kids with her dad to Florida and I was home.
And I started thinking now, okay. And I'd be like, yeah, I'd miss my kids, but what are the things I'd most want to do? And I think I figured it out because it's just something I don't get to do ever anymore.
I would order some Wendy's, shout outs. I'd definitely get some saucy nugs.
I'd go in my little basement cave

and I would play video games on one screen

while having whatever sports are on the other screen,

whether it's Knicks, football and have that going.

And I would just sit there with Wendy's saucy nugs,

video games and sports.

And I would go all night.

I do an all night.

I used to do the all nighter thing.

I'm a night owl.

I like to stay up. As a parent, you can't cause you don't know what's coming in the morning.
So that's what I would do. I would be in the basement, saucy nugs, video games, sports, and I just wouldn't even look at the clock.
I wouldn't even say I need to go to bed. That's the thing.
It's like, dude, I'm like, I might work out twice today. I don't know.
Or maybe I won might work out at all. Or maybe I won't work out at all.
I'm a, by the way, I'm going to door dash four times a day. Why not? Who gives a shit? Right.
I'll do it. This is your friend.
I'm not going out to get it. I'll door dash Wendy's.
I'll door dash, whatever. I don't care.
Shout outs Wednesday. Wendy's.
Thank you. I mean, we're just taking a break now because we've got Brady coming in, but I, I's going to be hard for me to shake the thought of playing video games and eating Wendy's for 12 straight hours.
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You know, I know you and Matt are tight.

It's rivalry week in college football.

I just got to go back.

Can we go back for a minute?

You guys have met on the field quite often, and now you're boys,

but take me back in time for a second.

You know you got Liner coming in, or you're going there. What's the feelings like? So my true freshman year, because I started playing right away, I really didn't fully understand the magnitude of the Notre Dame, you know, Southern Cal rivalry.
And there's a ton of history behind it. You'll probably hear about it all this week.

But I grew up in the Midwest.

The schools I was looking at were Ohio State, Michigan, Notre Dame.

When it came down time to make my decision,

it was kind of tight between Notre Dame and Michigan.

So when I picked Notre Dame,

I don't know, something about the matchup versus Michigan

who we played every year at that time

that stood out to me, something to prove.

A lot of the guys that were looking at

either one of those two schools,

Thank you. the matchup versus Michigan who we played every year at that time that like stood out to me like something to prove and a lot of the guys that were looking at either the one of those two schools you know you were very familiar with them from your recruiting visits and kind of keeping in touch playing against each other if they're from the state of Ohio etc so I uh I was really like like that was the matchup that I would always kind of look at was like man this is like everything like everything.
Although after my, my freshman year, like I started to understand, I should really say not even after, like before the game, I'll never forget, man, Joe Montana, who was like an idol, right? Like I grew up, uh, I love the Cleveland Browns, but I had family in Northern California. And so they would send me some 49ers gear and I love Jerry Rice.
My first year I played football, played receivers. I love Jerry.
And. And obviously I grew to love Joe Montana as his quarterback.
So I grew up watching Joe have success. And I translated kind of the Tom Brady, that next goat.
And I remember being down on the field on our walkthrough before the game. And I see Joe's kids.
I think it might've been Nate. They were throwing the football around.
And so I was like, hey, here throws it to me. I go to throw.
Joe almost slaps my arm down as I'm going to go back. I'm like, what the heck? He's like, do you want to throw this before the game tomorrow? He was like, it would mess up your mechanics and your arm.
I was like, oh. I was going to toss the ball for him.
Joe was always so cool so laid back. Then talking with him a little bit, I started to get a better understanding of what this meant to so many people out in Cali, which, again, I was ignorant to at that point.
But also, I mean, ignorant to the fact that USC, that year before I got there, was rolling. Obviously with Carson and then that, I think that was your first year starting in OJ.
And you guys, obviously one of the greatest teams in college football history. So that was the most unfortunate part is I couldn't play a Southern Cal team now.
I had to play that era. Matt and Richie and everyone.
Hey, Doug. He's going to the first round picks.
I'm like, why can't I have been born at a time where I get to play like this version of Southern Cal? I was telling Jerry earlier, it's like, and you had Notre Dame, Michigan, obviously, obviously, and we had USC UCLA and a little bit similar. Like when I was there, it really wasn't a rivalry because UCLA wasn't good, but you go back to crosstown rivalries in the city of LA.
It is important, right? The battle of the bell, like you can go back to some of the great years in the nineties and all that. But like, I remember my freshman year, uh, we went to Notre Dame and it was like our first time going Pete's first time.
So we get there and we go early because we go see like the grotto and we go, we're like, like it was almost became like a tourist thing. We were like, Pete wanted to do that.
We got our ass kicked, dude. It was Carlisle holiday.
Carlisle holiday was a quarterback. And like, we lost it.
And like, who's your running't there yet but you had a good running back um and we just was just oh one i think it was oh one yeah so it would so anyway i can't remember julius jones man ryan grant something like that oh no it was i think it was both it was julius jones julius jones for sure and we got our ass kicked and never again and pete was like next time we go back to that fucking place we are we're going, it's a business trip. And that's when I got a first taste of like, damn, this is a pretty cool, like the history.
Notre Dame is like, Rudy was my favorite movie. Brady makes fun.
Like Rudy's still my favorite sports movie. Like, no, I'm serious.
Like, it's just like, it was so cool to be a part of that. And then, and then to have those three years, I mean, we played three years against each other, um, twice in South Bend, which was awesome.
Yeah. Well, the last time, well, for me, yeah.
Did you guys during that have any contact with each other? I mean, you're college kids. So it's different than when you're in the pros and you have an off season, you work out with different guys.
Did you guys have any contact over those three years or are you just seeing each other's sort of highlights? How do you, I mean, I'm curious about that. Any contact or no? I think, what was the year? Cause like I think we probably hated each other.
I think we developed a hatred for each other. I mean, hate's a strong word, but sports hate though, not like personal hate like, personal hate.
When I look back, I'd be like, people ask. I'm like, Brady's my boy.
It's like, my brother, fuck, I love Brady. But, like, we did not like each other back then.
And do you remember, I think we've told this story. I love this.
I didn't tell Jarius. Remember the coin flip senior year? Yes.
I think I said, or my senior year. We're at Notre this is the bush push game you know this is all of that and like we're walking out to the coin flip the captains and i'm just like i don't know like i didn't really i didn't talk a lot of playing like but it was just one of those things and um i and brady's just like like look at him dude he's a greek god the.
The guy was like 250, just chiseled, just looked apart.

Jacked up.

Yeah, still jacked up.

And I think, what did I say?

I was like, I said something about,

oh, you've been on steroids.

Lay off the steroids.

At the coin flip.

Yes, at the coin flip. And I don't know what he said.

That's like, yeah.

Well, Brady still calls me bro.

He calls me South Bay bro.

But it was like one of the funny, And when I look back, I'm like,

it was one of the dumber exchanges.

But it was just like,

I fucking hate Notre Dame.

I hate this guy.

I want to win.

It was obviously a big game.

Like, that was just everything.

But that was the coin flip.

That was...

The captains go out there

and it's just like,

dude, are you still on roids?

What stunk about playing them was obviously they were unbelievable at that time. Like you guys didn't lose what for two years in like that junior year until you lost against Texas.
Yeah. Yeah.
Sophomore early, my sophomore year and then the last game. Okay.
So I just remember being like, it's not bad enough when you have to play a team that has like a lot of first round picks on their defensive front or a linebacker or wherever else. Well, then you're like trying to play a game where you've got to keep it away from their offense, which stunk.
I mean, because everyone will tell you this, Jerry, like, you know what a four-minute offense is, right? Yes. I was already, when we played, paying attention to the play talk.

We were like, all right, we're going to snap this thing about two seconds left.

Time will take you look like this is like by design,

just milking the clock to limit however many touch possessions they got.

So it was a challenge.

There's no doubt about it.

Like I said before, unfortunately, we played USC during arguably the greatest era I think they probably ever had i don't think that's like hyperbole it's probably the game um but look i mean usc was ahead of its time you know they had nil before nil was legalized and that was it was beneficial i think you're so full of shit dude listen listen Part of his career. Shut up.
Shut up. All right.
Before we get into this week's game, and I don't know, dude, we're going to bet on this. You're going to give me points.
I'm not. I'm already saying it right now.
I'm not. I'm not.
Hold on. Let me bring in Jerry.
Let me bring in Jerry. Okay.
Hold on. I want to ask you something.
I want to ask you something before we get to this game. Okay.
I want to ask we, we, I know we talk about Bush push at nauseam. I get it.
And I'm not even going to bring it up this week. Charlie Weiss.
I, Charlie was your coach. He coach Brady.
Charlie's great. Charlie was a great, fantastic coach.
Um, uh, all levels. And you and I have told, so like, like there's gotta be a to be a Charlie Weiss story.
It could be that game. He came in our locker room after the game.
I remember. I had a lot of respect for him.
Oh, really? Yeah, he did. He came in after the game.
That's cool. Yeah, it was pretty cool.
But I know you got some great Charlie Weiss stuff. I mean, I actually just...
Did he just MF you? He had an MF you. He walked under our campus when I left to go to the NFL.
Probably one of the times I was most caught off guard. Jerry, just so you know, game day, we'll be at the hotel, meetings and whatnot in the morning.
Then we go to the Basilica and we have a mass. It's like an abbreviated mass.
And so we head out from the church. We do this walk all the way to the stadium.
And I want to say it was, I think it was my senior year versus North Carolina. And the weather had kind of turned.
And at one point, I think Henry Scrooge, who was our equipment manager, had asked me, like, hey, what socks do you want to wear? Do you want to wear the normal ones or shorter or longer ones?

I'm like, I don't know. It looks like it's going to be cool.

Maybe we're the longer ones or whatever.

I always thought it was cooler anyway.

It was an amazing comment.

I think I made on a Friday or something,

the day before the game.

We go through the walk. We get to the stadium.

Before I even get to my locker,

I'm hearing someone run to come get me.

I'm like, what could this be about? And so I go to Coach's locker. He had his own separate little office locker room there.
And he's only wearing his underwear. And I'm like, at no point had I seen Coach in this capacity at any point in the last two years.
And so I was like taken back by the whole situation. And meanwhile,

mother effing me

about who do I think I am?

I get to make decisions

on the uniform,

everything else.

I'm like completely blown away

trying to be like,

what did I do?

It sucks.

It was the socks.

He thought you were probably soft, right?

He's like,

you're going to wear high socks.

I have no idea.

I just know that was one of the times I got mother effing more than anything else. And he was just in his skivvies chewing me out.
I'm getting a visual right now. That is not a good visual.
That one sticks out. I also...
I'm not going to throw him under the bus. But I will say my junior year, our second game, we went to Ann Arbor.
And I think game day was a big matchup it was like a top five whatever matchup or they were top five and uh I just remember trying to go back up to the locker room they have awful away locker rooms by the way it's like the smallest crappiest you don't even have a locker you just have like a hook and they put the crap on the wall on a hook and like that's it and I've never been, you can't go in the locker room. I was like, what do you mean? Like someone overflowed one of the toilets.
Oh. I was like, we were out like on the field almost the entire time.
And I don't know who did it or what happened. A lot of people threw in different names, different blame.
But I remember like we had to take turns shuffling into one area of the locker room

because one of the toilets overflowed,

and there was sewage flooding in the locker room.

But we ended up winning.

But that was another fond memory of Manny.

There's so many ashes, dude.

Okay, real quick.

That just spawned a memory, and we talked about this on the pod a couple of weeks ago before we dive into this week's game. Peen on the sideline, okay? I never knew this.
So Jerry asked me this and now they have the blue tent, right? And all this stuff. So like, I basically said, because it's a common question.
Like people are always like, how do you go to the bathroom on the sideline? Typically you don't. Right.
But if you have to pee, I always said, yeah, like you just, you, you, you literally get on your knee. You have your trainers or whoever put the towels and you just, and you just take a piss.
Like usually behind like the Gatorade stand or something like that. And I always thought it was funny because I would do it.
And Brady knows me now. I'm kind of like a weird, like I just got weird, like shit.
be like doing it and your head like peeks over the table and then you're just looking at like 80 000 people like i can literally remember doing it in houston i do it all the time right so like can you can you co-sign with me did you ever have that like it happens now it's a little different i think you can go in the blue tent like you're covered i don't know i went to giant stealers and i saw i now that i was aware of it, I never noticed in every game I ever went to, I never just noticed players piss. You think they're getting medical attention or something.
I saw one player walk out with like a bag of piss and he jokingly pretended to throw it at the, at the steal, at the Steeler fans. I never 40 years of watching football.
I'd never noticed any of that. Uh, so Notre Dame has has good old pants.
Yes, they do. Tell me you pissed your pants.
I didn't. Honestly, I never had to do that.
I never had to go to the bathroom. It was never an issue for me.
I don't know why. But we definitely had guys who did just pee their pants because you really couldn't tell whether it was sweat or whether it was pee at that point.
so my only request uh to the old line was like if it was not the center dude you can't yeah i was like if you i was like if you piss your pants i'm gonna go right to the coach like we're in shock on the rest of the game i want no part of this no part of this dude there's nothing worse than sweaty ass center pants oh dude it's the worst um all right dude's stop. I don't know.
Jerry had something. Let's dive into the game.
My offer. Can I throw this out? Yes.
You can throw it out, but I'm not doing it. Well, let's hear it first, man.
I haven't heard it yet. Thank you.
I mean, Matt doesn't live in the Midwest. He doesn't have his manners, but here's the deal.
This is what I've offered, i'm offering matthew leinert the third i'm offering him seven points which is i believe is the spread or whatever the number goes to before kick if it goes up i'm still giving them to you still get them okay if it goes down i'll give you seven all right now if you win all right i have to travel to usc's bowl game and I have to wear USC gear. You don't even have to attend to USC's bowl game

and I have to wear USC gear.

You don't even have to attend.

I will go by myself

to their bowl game.

My wife is going to be giving birth

potentially the third week of January.

She is going to be so ticked off

that I'm going to have this trip that pops up

out of nowhere to probably the West Coast to have to go sit by myself and watch the UFC bowl game. Okay? Let me intervene.
This is the same stupid shit that you... The other side of it is, if I win, I'm going to have Matt fly out private from Southern County.
PJ. Okay.
Did you confirm that, by the way? Did you confirm that? Yes, I did. To Notre Dame for their playoff game.
Let's say December 20th, 8 p.m. Four days before Christmas.
But you'll be out in and out. It's a PJ.
You're in and out, buddy. Listen,

dude,

this,

this is typical Brady.

Okay.

Brady also made,

no,

I'm going to get there.

You also made a deal or a bet with Dan,

with DP,

our friend,

all of our friends,

Dan Patrick, about you would shave your head.

If Notre Dame lost army,

knowing the fact that good God,

the army was never going to beat Notre Dame.

And you know, damn well that USC is not going to even knowing the fact that good god the army was never going to beat notre dame and you know damn well that usc is not going to even cover the points of notre dame yes you do you okay you do open up our google knots for our show right now did you see my score prediction 34 27 no was that it no but i don't care about your score prediction why not wait i. We have Brady Quinn on the show.
This is typical Brady, dude. Brady knows.
Listen, any other year... I took the bet last year.
It was awful. We got our ass kicked by 30 points.
And I think it might have even been straight up. Even if you give me seven...
I can't forget. Yeah, dressed up as a leprechaun on the show.
Gladly. By the way, I leaned into it.
This is a little different. In the history of leprechauns.
Because there's a lot of travel involved, would you be willing to go a little higher on the points? And I do think it's seven and a half as we speak today. I mean, if he gave me 14 points, I'll take it.
14? I was going to maybe say 10 and a half. Dude, you're literally top five in the country.
By the way, we have one of the worst defenses in college. You're going to run for 900 yards, dude.
Okay, let me get to how this game's going to play out. Okay, this is what we're here for.
I think this game's going to be a lot tighter than Matt realizes. Mind you, he mentioned the DP prediction because I told DP, I said Notre Dame is going to blow out Army.
Okay. Said that.
And that's why he pressed back and said, if Army wins, you've got to shave your head. And I said, gladly, because I know it's not going to happen.
Ohio State versus Indiana. What did I say on our show? I said, blow out.
And we're not even supposed to be doing that because we're supposed to entite viewers. Right.
I didn't see the matchup working out well.

I think this is going to be quite possibly the closest game.

Actually, I'll put it this way.

It'll be the closest game Notre Dame's played

as far as being on the winning side of it.

I do think Notre Dame wins,

but I think it'll be really light.

That's because they haven't played anybody, dude,

but it doesn't matter.

That's part of it.

And USC can mash up really well with Notre Dame at the skilled position players. Woody Barks is a tremendous running back.
You know this. Your skilled player is a wide receiver, and you've got a running quarterback like Notre Dame does.
And so there's elements of like, if USC can stop the run, and mind you, like USC's defensive front is improved, and it's better than Matt's giving him credit. Brady, stop.
just stop talking, please. Offensive line, Notre Dame's been banged up.
It's not like they have been playing against a team. So I think it's going to be a three-point game.
I think it's going to be... Whoa! Thank you.
Matt? Listen. As much as he's trying to sell this because he's a professional politician, we tell him this all the time.
This guy, I just, dude, I can't, I think my wife would leave me, dude, if I leave to Indianapolis, bro. This isn't even, by the way, I would love to go, I would love to go PJ, Notre Dame, get booze with my boy, watch Notre Dame in a playoff, college football playoff game.
I would love to do love to do that i would i would four days before christmas telling my wife that after we travel all year and by the way the fact that like you i don't even know what bowl game usc would go to like are we even eligible for a bowl game are they even that's they're even getting into a bowl that's we have six like i don't even know where i going. What's the worst place you could be going? What would be your biggest fear? I looked it up.
I think there's a good chance it could be the Vegas Bowl. Could be worse.
No, that would be fine. That would be perfectly fine.
Although, again, he's going to get photos of me wearing USC stuff, standing all by myself up in the nosebleeds, watching this game. That's going to be miserable.
By the way, to answer your question, I think the most miserable bowl game is probably the Sun Bowl. I was going to say El Paso.
El Paso can be really cold at that time. It's an outdoor venue.
It's not easy to get in that. I was looking.
There is actually a small chance SC could play Oklahoma in a bowl game, which would be actually pretty fire. That would be a fun one.
Because they hate Lincoln. I think you guys should do this.
Listen, I think get it up to maybe 10 and a half, Matt. I think negotiate for 10 and a half.
This is the shitty part about this. This is what I'm going to do because I cannot.
I can't. I'm going to be that guy.
I'm a big bet guy. I've always, I've always made good to my bets.
I've actually lost. No, no, no, no.
I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it on.
He's not doing it on the pod right now. We still have a cup.
We still have a couple of days. It's a couple of days.
Let me, let me, let me think about this B let me think I'm not backing out of a bet. I will.
I rather bet you, I'll bet you a thousand bucks. I'll bet you cash, whatever.
But the trip is going to be. I know the trip is going to be tough.
This isn't that this is the trip is going to be tough, dude. I'm just being honest with you.
BQ, let me tell you something. So Jerry got to experience being at USC with me last week.
We did a lot of it was fun. And he was like, you know, we're walking around and he got to experience a little bit of what college life was like.
Jerry, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I didn't go to college. Just like as far as like...
I mean, I know. I mean, yeah, not that type of college life.
Being on campus, like experiencing like... Is that what happened here? Man.
Like, what was going on there? Jesus. I'm signing with USC.
I, dude, I went, by the way, I mean, Notre Dame, Notre Dame's a beautiful school. I mean, it's not USC and some other elements, but being on campus with Brady, Brady is the fucking mayor of South Bend, Indiana, dude.
You are the mayor. We even broke into his football locker room.
Can I get a tour from, can I get, I mean, I did USC. It was really, honestly, it was really cool.
That's a show. I just go to college campuses and get tours from like their legendary quarterbacks.
Speaking, what'd you say? We did a few social media we we literally broke in to the locker room like i thought that poor the poor girl man you were about to get her fired and you have to understand when i first got there the locker room in our stadium what was our only locker room we'd walk all the way across campus to go to the practice fields. Then by my junior year, they built this separate locker room, practice facility, all this stuff.
They'd always said, hey, the alarm goes on at a certain time of night. I'm like, no, it doesn't because I've had to get into the stadium before or go to my locker back in the day when I was a freshman and sophomore.
This girl was like, no, there's an alarm. They just say alarm.
I'm like, they just say that. I was like, no way that's true.
So we go in, it goes off like, Oh God, God show up. Brady was like, no, trust me.
We're good. It was one of those, like, we're good.
Like, you know, and obviously being with him, but then the other cops came, the poor girl. I was like, dude, you're going to get this girl fired, dude.
And Brady's like, I promise if anything happens, it's on me. But it was, it was fantastic.
Hey, real quick. Um, I was telling Jerry and, and you mentioned your kids and you got a whole starting lineup and, and Elish going to have another, another one here pretty soon in a couple months.
Um, Thanksgiving, what, what is, what is Thanksgiving like at the Quinn household? And then also, I don't think a lot of people know this about you and the family and the incredible athletic in-laws and the genes that your family... I was telling Jerry a little bit.
Explain the brother-in-laws and what it's like at the Quinn household. Yeah.
So it's funny. Everything kind of worked out the way it did, but

my older sister, Laura, is married to

AJ Hawk. So, by the

way, I've got to talk to Leiner. I didn't get the

best of AJ. We played back when I

was in youth league. He beat us in

the championship at Centerville, and then we go

to Ohio State. He beats us in the Fiesta Bowl.

So I have to deal with that crap constantly.

Bunch of bullshit, man.

What the fuck is going on? I don't even know if I, can I cuss on this? I don't know if I, yes, you're fine. We drop that.
Totally fine. So that's my, my older brother-in-law.
My younger brother-in-law is Jack Johnson. He was a defenseman for the Columbus blue jackets.
So he played. Yeah.
Yeah. Obviously my wife was in the 2008 Olympics.
She's a, was a very decorated, uh, Olympic gymnast, uh, won a bunch of medals in world championships too. So they're extremely athletic.
And honestly, quite possibly the most athletic of the bunch is my little sister. So my little sister in women's soccer was like the three-time Gary and State player of the year in Ohio.
I didn't know that. They'd won two state championships.
She went on a full ride to UVA. She was on the Olympic development team.
She ended up tearing up her knee twice, I believe, sophomore and senior year. And so that kind of ended things for her with how bad her knee was.
But incredible athlete. Like, everything LeBron won coming out of high school was like what she won.
It was like this two or three time. That's amazing.
Yeah, it was incredible. So she's always the one that I try to give love to because no one really hears her story and she was a ridiculous athlete.
If you go into our high school, we're both in the Hall of Fame. She's the one that has all these banners.
We made it to the state semis before our high school had been in football. We won a state championship in baseball.
Yeah, that's okay. They won two.
There's always Gator play the year, banners up, like, damn. But that's our family.
Like, we're an incredibly athletic, competitive family. So there's essentially a fistfight over the turkey and the sides every Thanksgiving.
You know what I wanted to ask you, Brady? Because, look, obviously you cover the game, but it's no secret, too, that you love the game. What? Because I got excited just listening to maybe thinking about going

to a Notre Dame playoff game. That just sounds awesome.

What coming into this season

and what now excites you about just

the playoff system? Because I'm hyped

for it. I really am.
I think this changes everything.

I think like the fact

that you've got the Big 12 and

like no one controls their own

destiny. Like think about it.
Right. You have the

last game of the regular season and you can't say

that if any team wins that they're

definitively in the championship game. Like there's

All right. no one controls their own destiny.
Think about it. You have the last game of the regular season, and you can't say that if any team wins, that they're definitively

in the championship game. There's all these

tie-breaking scenarios, which

it speaks to a little bit of the realignment, but also

just the fact of

the anticipation for

what has made the regular season better.

I think some people were concerned that

if you expanded the playoff, it would

allow teams to lose more games, and so it wouldn't be as intriguing, but it's had the exact opposite effect now. Can you make a case for a three-loss SEC team that loses in the conference championship? Let's say Georgia goes to the SEC championship and loses with three losses.
You look at the resume, and you're like, well, they beat a lot of good teams, but they also lost three times.

And you kind of measure who they lost against versus an Indiana team that doesn't go to the championship or potentially couldn't, right? So we've got some time left. And then how that would factor out.
So there's all those debates and conversations, which I think has actually been healthy and good for college football. Yeah, I agree.
I think it also opens up the potential even, even if we don't get it this year, for a Cinderella story which is what makes college basketball so great. And what we see in the NFL where it's like, yeah, you got, you know, the juggernaut team.
Are you like a Giants fan being from Brooklyn? We're from Brooklyn. I grew up a Giants fan.
We were talking about this earlier on the show, but now I'm a Red Zone fan because I just watched. Tommy Cutlets.
Yeah, I can't even, we talk about the, we talk about other giants, babe, how we doing? I talk more giants than I've ever talked to my life on this pod, dude. It's just, it's rough.
I was even thinking about this and almost wanting to ask both of you this. And it's unfair to ask now, cause there's going to be coaching changes.
But if you look at the teams that need quarterbacks, there's quite a few of them. If you just look from afar, even though there will be coaching changes, if you're a the teams that need quarterbacks there's quite a few of them if you just look from afar even though there will be coaching changes if you're a quarterback coming in this year's draft what organization are you looking at saying well i think because matt talks a lot about it's so important for a young quarterback the fit and where they go and the coat and the infrastructure around them uh and that's why i'm happy bryce is starting to play well and they lost to the Chiefs.
But so if you're looking, obviously the Giants, maybe the Jets, the Raiders for sure. There's a solid four or five teams that need a quarterback.
He just wants to know who's coming to the Giants. Is it Shador or who is it Cam Ward? So here's the problem with that is, I think everyone who definitively views Shador as the number one quarterback.
Then maybe it's Cam Ward or Carson's back depending on who you talk to and how you evaluate their tape. That's the hard part.
There's only going to be one team that puts themselves in position. There's some leverage there then.
If Shador and Dion know and they have a destination that they have in mind, I mean, he's really good at finding his way. That's how things work out.
Vegas, baby, Vegas. That's going to happen.
It's going to happen this year. It's going to be really interesting.
By the way, I'm not so sure the Giants move on from Brian Dable. I think there's a chance they could stay with him.
The offseason hard knocks couldn't have gone any worse. It couldn't have gone any worse.
Where the kid actually looks like he could be general manager just as good at that point. He's the one that makes you out.
I know. That was such a bad look.
You were overthinking this a little bit. But I think the Giants would be a great spot for any quarterback.
Me too. They tended to be pretty patient.
They've tended to try to build around that position. And I think from the quarterback who goes there's standpoint, you don't have to do much in order to get a second contract.
So, like, there's that. You just got to be average.
Or, you know, whatever. But I'm just saying, that's attractive, right? Listen, I have the talk all the time with my buddy who's just like you know it's great that daniel's got the contract but he shouldn't have that's what you get you took all the money and that's what you got you should have and i snagged him agreed to an extension with saquon you could have let it play out another year with daniel jones that would have been ideally how it went and honestly like because they didn't pick up his fifth year option, which is part of that.
But here's the thing, as I'll say, is Matt, you're lucky because when I moved up from Ohio, from South Florida, I had a bunch of buddies and guys who were East Coast. They're from New York, Jersey, Philly, Boston, all these different accents.
There's nothing like talking to that East Coast sports fan, a guy like Jerry. It makes me miss my boys.
It makes me miss Fasano. All my boys.
Yeah. Because they're just...
Oh, we love Fasano. We love Fasano.
Dude, it's the first time Jerry and I hung out. One of the first times we were in New York doing a lot of stuff for this and we were watching the Knicks game and it was my first real interaction to like...
He's a diehard Knicks. He's a diehard New York fan, right? So I was like, and as a West Coast, I'm like- The Knicks are my Browns.
It was just like watching a Knicks game and him and all like you're talking about, it just was like, oh, this shit's great, dude. Like this is like a true New Yorker who loves his sports, talks every, I mean, we talk so much fucking Giants, dude.
I'm like, at this point point, it's like Danny Jones is gone, dude. He's gone.
It's painful though. They're not having a meaningful game now in over two years.
And even before that years before that, that's why fantasy and betting is what I, I, I have. Cause it's been so bad for both New York teams, but you know, I was trying to, yeah, I was trying to sneak in you just saying the Giants would be a good place for a young quarterback,

and you kind of did.

So I feel like it's a big victory for you.

Oh, yeah, it'd be great.

Listen, hey, we're going to finish.

We're going to figure out this bet before the game.

Yes, for sure.

We appreciate you coming on, man.

Yes, thank you.

And we'll get the bet.

I'll get him to do something for you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

All right, it's time for Money Moments.

It's pretty good. get the bet though i'll get him to get to do something for you thank you thank you all right it's time for money moments presented by our friends over at cash app sending spending saving splitting tipping donating gifting or just typing in numbers all with the number one finance app in the app store that's money that's cash Matt, what is your money moment going into the weekend? So, uh, kind of earlier in the show, we're talking about, you know, just the wife being home and all this kind of stuff.
And I don't know if you, did you catch the gender reveal that was, uh, that happened, I think on the post game or pre game of Monday night football this week. Yeah.
So yes, I did. It's just, it just was a money moment for me.
Cause I just was so basically two, two Ravens fans basically gave whatever, I don't know, an envelope or whatever. And it was Van Pelt and Kelsey and the crew and Marcus Spears.
And they announced the gender reveal on live TV, I believe. And I just immediately, like we're having a baby and we're not finding out the sex.
And I just immediately thought if I were to ask, like genuinely ask my wife, Hey, why don't we do a gender reveal at a football game on TV? The, the, the look that I would have gotten from her, she would have said, she literally, I will, she said, I will cut your balls off. If you ever do that, like, that's what she would say to me.
And she would look, she would be dead serious. I don't, I thought it was great.
I thought the moment was great. I thought it was fantastic.
I thought it was a unique way to do it. It was unique.
I'm just saying like, I try to put myself in those shoes and I was like, dude, my wife would laugh in my face and then say that to me in five seconds. So that was my money moment.
I thought it was great. That just wouldn't fly in my house.
I have a couple of things. The gender reveal stuff on Instagram has gone wild.
We've all seen the fails. It's gone too far.
We've never, we did one not for social, just amongst us and the family with our second kid, right? And it was cute. We didn't like do it and blast it out.
The things I saw from that, number one, I felt if you really watched the flicker of the dad's reaction versus the mom's reaction, finding out when it's a boy, the dad instantly went, yeah. And the wife, you could see the flicker of like, fuck.
And then when you look, I'm sure she's thrilled. Maybe she won't do that.
I'm not trying to put, you know, project onto her. I thought I saw flicker of, oh yeah, that.
And then I started thinking, wouldn't it be cool if that kid grows up to become a professional athlete? Because then they're going to roll that clip for the rest of his career. I thought it was awesome.
I think the reactions are the best. I had a similar experience when my little one was born, but we didn't have to go into that.
We don't need to go into that. I do appreciate the ones, especially with dads, where it's like their fifth girl and they just kind of, oh, shit.
By the way, what a rockstar wife just wanting to do it on Monday Night Football. That's pretty badass.
And you were there, Matt Leiner. You were present for it.
All right. All right.
What do you got, brother? So mine, you know, any chance I get to talk about golf, I get really excited. My money moment was Joel Damon.
You know who Joel Damon is. I've had the chance to shoot some stuff with Joel Damon on the golf course.
Joel Damon's star of Full Swing on Netflix. We talked Drive to Survive earlier.
Same company does Full Swing, behind the scenes stuff. Joel Damon was the breakout star from that show.
He's had a wild up and down career, but he's always had his PGA tour card. If you fall out of the one 25 on the FedEx rankings, you lose your PGA tour card.
Like that's it. It's over.
You can still play events, but you're almost like a fill in. Joel Damon went into the tournament last week and I think he was one 25, but he was not playing well.
And he had a five-foot putt that if he missed, I think he misses the cut, which would almost assuredly drop him out of the FedEx Cup. He drills the putt.
That's a money moment. Oh, that's a money moment.
And then he goes on. Hold on.
Let me pull it up. So he's still at 125, and I think he goes on to shoot a 64 to basically get, and he finished 125 and retained this PGA Tour card.
You know what that means? He could play any PGA Tour event. He could make his own schedule.
He didn't lose his card. Once you lose a card, it's very, very hard to get back there.
Joel Damon, not only a good guy, but stepped up when the money was on the line. Stepped up and that is my money moment.
By the way, five, five foot putts are, are harder than 20 foot putts sometimes. Cause just the pressure of making those with your PGA tour card on the line.
Like you make golf, by the way, golf is no joke, dude. Golf is no joke, man.
The pressure of the, like it's you against the, it's you against everybody else. That's part of the reason why it's just like, shit, man We're going to be seeing more Joel Damon next year.
What a moment. Alright, time for our

throwback three. We were thinking

I guess because it's rivalry week like we

said and Brady Quinn, one of

your rivals. It would be good to talk about

throwback three

sports team rivalry.

Heavy on the team because if you start going down

the individual athlete rivalries. We'll do athletes

another time because there's so many, man. It's a whole other's a good one so this one is team matt okay so i'll start i'm gonna go three lakers celtics this could easily be this could easily be number one of all time however you want and by the way like bird magic is maybe one of the biggest rivalries too.
Two of the most iconic sports brands teams in the history of sports, they always will be no matter what. The players obviously going back, I think, you know, 18 championships with the Celtics, 17 with the Lakers, going back to the olden days to recently.
And I just remember, I'm a diehard Laker fan, Kobe fan. I remember being in Europe for the run when they beat the Celtics.
And I remember we would be out, we'd either be out all night and get home and it would be on at like four in the morning there. I would be either hammered watching it or for whatever reason, we went to bed and we I would would get up at 3 30 or 4 in the morning to watch live back here those games and kobe to win that with kobe and gasol going up against obviously kg and pierce and rondo and all those guys so i would just say lakers celtics the hatred the respect the the championships the the two best nba franchises of all time.
That's my number three. Yeah, I'm sticking in the NBA too, which is ironic because the Knicks certainly don't have any rivals because they haven't been good.
But the rivalry I enjoyed the most in addition to Lakers-Celtics, I'm going to go Cavs-Warriors because they played each other. Cavs- Cavs Warriors? Are you nuts? Go back in time.
Warriors win. Then the Cavs win.
Then the Warriors get Durant. They played in the finals.
I'm talking about LeBron versus the Warriors. I was going back to Brad Doherty, Mark Price.
Mark Price and Brad Doherty. Were they playing Chris Mullen and Tim Hardaway? No, it's the LeBron Cavs second go around versus Steph and the Warriors and you sprinkle in Durant, the 3-1 series.
I don't think we'll ever get that again because I don't think we'll get what LeBron did where one team will be in the NBA Finals every single year. And then the Warriors, epic to me, that is a dynasty.
I just don't think we'll get what LeBron did where one team will be in the NBA finals every single year. And then the warriors epic to me, that is a dynasty.
I just don't think we'll see that. And those were the, to me, the finals where, you know, even though those aren't your teams, you're still watching the stars in those finals.
I mean, you had the greatest shooter of all time and, and Steph and you have arguably the greatest player of all time. It was, yeah, that was sprinkling Kyrie with 50 point games and J.R.
Smith grabbing the ball at the foul line, not knowing how much time is left or how down three, one series. That was, that was the, the summer of Richard Jefferson.
We like to call the buddy of mine out here. RJ just dunking on people.
He hasn't dunked on anyone. And then Draymond hitting LeBron in the balls.
This was amazing.

So that's my number three. All right, number two.
I'm going to be there this weekend, Ohio State, Michigan. And I never knew.
I'll be quick. I never knew the importance of this and what it meant until I started covering it.
And obviously being around Urban Meyer, who coached in this for seven years. there is a a

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a of this and what it meant until I started covering it. And obviously being around Urban Meyer who coached in this for seven years, there is a, a disdain for both like a hatred, hatred, hatred within those fan bases, college, college football and college sports, I think are just different than professional, right? This goes back.
I mean, the stories and all that. So Ohio state crosses out every M on campus the week of Michigan, maybe before every M every M and it doesn't matter where it is.
It is, it is, it is an X, right? They, they refer to Michigan as the team up North coach Meyer has said the word Michigan, I think twice since I've known him for six years. And both times he said it, we all look at him like, coach, what the fuck did you just say? And he goes, and it's almost like a family member died.
He's like, oh shit. Did you ask him on social how much money you would take to coach Michigan? Was that you? Yeah, I did.
He was like, no amount of money. He's like, ah, maybe.
Do you believe him? Like if they offer Urban, we'll give you. He would never.
He would never do it. 75 million a year to coach Michigan.
He would never. He wouldn't.
There. And then just the games.
Like I think Charles Woodson, David Boston back in the day, which is a little player, right? But you just like the moments. And I cover it, man.
I live it. There is like clocks in both locker rooms.
364 days until we played that team. And it's both ways.
It is remarkable. I think it's arguably the greatest rivalry in all of sports.
I didn't put it as my number one, but it is up there. And I encourage, it's a bucket list to go see.
It is really, really cool. My number two, I'm sticking in college, but I'm sticking with basketball.
And I've been to one of these in my life and it was outstanding. Is it your number one? Yeah.
Are you going to Carolina number one? All right. Well, then let's talk about that.
No, I haven't been to many college basketball games. I went to one Duke Carolina game and both teams weren't even good at this moment.
It was a down year for both teams. And I have never been, I've been in a lot of cool sporting environments.
I don't get the college thing. Cause I didn't go.
We discussed this even when we were at USC with you, but man, I understood it when I went to Duke and Carolina. And then you start thinking about the players and the coaches and which, which, which should he go to? Did you go to Duke or I went to Duke? Yeah.
I went to Duke. Cameron indoors.
Cameron indoor was nuts. You feel like you're on the court.
It's like a high school gym. Yeah.
So that has to be one of the, I think if they were all going to die, I think that'd be the last one to die almost. I think, I think, yeah, that was my number one.
And I'll just say like, I, I, I went to one game and. Carolina wasn't.
So it wasn't like a great game, but I experienced everything you did. And I went with like a pretty big Duke person.
So we got the full, and I know Coach K a little bit. And he was great.
We got the full VIP treatment and we sat courtside like one row up right behind the announcer. And I'm in here, I'm thinking like, this is high school basketball.
Like it's a high school gym and the, and the, the Duke crazies, the student section. And then as you said, like, like Redick, uh, Grayson Allen, Leitner, Hansborough, like, like talk about some of the most hated players of all time.
Hated. Dude.
And it's what, 15 minutes down like Tobacco Road or whatever. It's, it's, it's by far, dude.
I love that one, man. Yeah, I didn't mean to step on your number one because- No, what's your number one? You know, we try not to be complete homers with this throwback three, but it is a personal one.
It's Yankees Red Sox. Okay.
I was like, are we going to go somehow Giants in this thing? No, I tried to find a Giants rival. I know you did.
I know they haven't beaten the

Cowboys in like 12 years. I don't even remember the last time we beat the Eagles in a meaningful game.
There is no Giants rivalry. Uh, you can't even talk about the Giants, which is why Scott Hanson is so important because I'm a red zone guy.
I, there's no, that is completely it for me with that, but if you are even curious about the Red Sox-Yankees rivalry, obviously it goes way back to Babe Ruth, but go watch Jeter's doc. Go watch The Captain, which is an amazing doc if you just respect a great athlete, even if you're not into Yankee porn like I am.
And then if you are a Yankee fan, I encourage every Yankee fan, go watch the comeback on Netflix about the Red Sox, 04. It hurts, but you really see what the rivalry means to both people, fans involved.
Not even the teams and the players, of course, but the fans. In 04, they were so ready to lose to the Yankees again.
And they start drinking in the locker room. It was Millar.
They start drinking Jack Daniels, whatever they were drinking in the locker room. They win one game.
And the next thing you know, history is made. So go watch that stuff.
That's the number one. And I think baseball, we just had Yankees, Dodgers, which was great.
We really need the Yankees and the Red Sox to be good at the same time. And it hasn't happened in a while.

The Big Poppy era, man, Big Poppy was great.

But rivalries are like, it's what makes sports so unique.

It doesn't matter if it's collegiate NFL.

Gosh, I mean, you could even do high school these days.

Like it is, it's, it's, it's so much fun.

And then the history and the stories,

that's why those docs are great, right?

Because it just takes you back into like, like, like, how did they become the, how did they become the rival? Where did this story start? Where did it start? Yeah. I think that's so fascinating, man.
Yeah. All those bucket lists, man.
Duke Carolina. That's the throwback three.
Let us know yours because I'm sure we'd miss some and wait till we get to the athlete one, the individual one. That'll be great.
Matty, I know Thanksgiving's not a thing for you because you work and you travel on Thursday, but happy Thanksgiving and everybody listening out there, safe and healthy Thanksgiving. For me, yeah, for me, I know once the football's done and the turkey's eaten, Bree's family has a really cool tradition.
The minute like football's over and we ate and dessert's done, they throw on Christmas vacation. It begins the Christmas movie season for them, for their family.
Real quick, are you glued to the couch on Thanksgiving or do you have to actually socialize? Well, we hosted two years in a row. We're not hosting this year.
So now I'll get much more football and chilling where when you're hosting, I mean, I don't even think I talk to anyone. It's just hosting is a whole different thing.
So, but you seriously, everyone out there, happy, healthy Thanksgiving. Thank you for all the support.
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