Malice at the Palace memories and Jack Flaherty’s World Series Celebration

Speaker 1 Otani, like, I don't know what I'm just fine. Dude, these guys are unicorn.
I was just curious, like, what is it like in the clubhouse?

Speaker 2 Day to day, like, he just show is show. He's not like, I don't mean that, like, he's, he's, he's uh, like, showtime or anything.

Speaker 2 He just is like a like a pretty much like a regular dude that's on the bus. And it was also pretty cool to say that there was a billion dollars sitting in two seats right there.

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Speaker 3 Matt.

Speaker 1 What's up?

Speaker 3 Got me.

Speaker 1 Matt, you're here.

Speaker 3 You got me back in LA. We're in our studio for the first time.

Speaker 1 For real, in the future.

Speaker 3 In the flesh.

Speaker 3 We did a lot of stuff at your alma mater. We did.
As a kid, never went to college. I mean, three months of the community college don't count.
Shout outs, College of Staten Island.

Speaker 3 It was amazing walking around that campus with you and then seeing all the kids and realizing what that must have been like for you

Speaker 3 back in the day, coming off to Heisman.

Speaker 1 I mean, surreal feeling. You know what? It's actually funny.
When I go back there now, it's kind of split because I'm a lot older. So it's like you get some of them are like.

Speaker 1 Like they grew up in the football fans and their parents were fans of our era. That's what I get now.
I get a lot of these kids are the kids of like USC fans.

Speaker 1 It's just always like when I'm back there, it's just always brings back memories, right? It's just, you go back and you're like, man, like the run we went on, the history

Speaker 1 forever etched in USC football history, that run and that dynasty. And

Speaker 1 it always brings back, it's just fun. It's fun walking around.
We took, took you around, kind of give you a history.

Speaker 1 And I think people forget like, you're a sports head, right? You love sports. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So there's so much history of players that played there some of the all-time greats the all-american walk all the heisman trophies first round pick the first

Speaker 3 overall most number most first round pick so like it's always fun to be back um it was good to have you on campus it always feels good to be our shootout video is coming soon we're not going to tell you results uh the shootout video will be out there soon but you know what else was dope we went to go have lunch And it's like, oh, there's Juju right there.

Speaker 3 We saw Ju. We saw Juju.

Speaker 1 You're not going to see on campus.

Speaker 3 Waiting online for food. Of course, I think we tried to talk to her.
It's like, no, she actually has to go to class.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 3 But then you realize, like, that's the,

Speaker 3 you know, I'd say inarguably the best women's basketball player in the country.

Speaker 1 She's the next. I mean, like, she's walking around campus with a book bag.
Caitlin Clark, but like Juju Watkins is literally the next greatest thing. I'm sure he is, but the next, she's three.

Speaker 1 The thing that's crazy, she has three more years in college. No.
They can't leave early. She's got three more years.
She was right there.

Speaker 1 Like, I think she might have been on like her scooter or something.

Speaker 3 It was cool to get a glimpse of her in like full college mode, not on the court. I could say years from now, like, yeah, I just bumped into her while she was getting ready to go.

Speaker 1 I saw Snoop a little bit later in the day. He was, he was a big SC guy, right? Big SC guy.
So like, that's the thing about USC.

Speaker 1 Like, it brings a lot of people together, but you'll never, you never know who you're going to see.

Speaker 3 Didn't Snoop used to hype you guys up? Dude, drop it like it's hot. Would he come in and see me?

Speaker 1 Well, he did. He grew up in Long Beach, man.
He grew up in LA and

Speaker 1 he was a big SC fan, still is. And he used to come around campus and rap and

Speaker 1 I was throwing him routes like I threw you routes through you.

Speaker 3 You're all going to see it.

Speaker 1 So it's a big LA day. How are you feeling today, by the way?

Speaker 3 I feel good this week, but I don't know how much better I'm going to feel in a little while because we have a World Series champion entering our studio today.

Speaker 3 I think we've had five ring champions on this show. Dontrell.

Speaker 1 Charles. No, Charles.

Speaker 3 Charles ain't got no ring.

Speaker 3 Sorry, Charles. We love you.
Swish.

Speaker 4 Kurt.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah. Kurt Warner, you count.

Speaker 1 You have a national championship, bro.

Speaker 3 You have a national championship.

Speaker 1 Kutchers never won a ring.

Speaker 3 Kutchers never won a ring, but we have the great Jack Flarity joining us from the Dodgers.

Speaker 3 Matt had to sit through my Yankee porn with Nick Swisher. Now I got to sit through it with you and Jack Flarity.

Speaker 1 Like, one, as a Dodger fan, it's amazing, right? So, like, I'm excited to talk to you. He's a cool dude, too.
And by the way, he was a massive part of their run.

Speaker 1 Obviously, like, he pitched two games in the World Series, NLCS, all of these things. Like,

Speaker 1 there's just so many

Speaker 1 greats, like Shohei, and then like the Freddie Freeman's run and just like celebrations.

Speaker 1 And like, he grew up in LA, coming back to, like, there's just like so many great stories around the Dodgers and then having Jack being able to tell that man. Like, I'm excited.

Speaker 1 And you're going to have to sit through an hour of just.

Speaker 3 I'm here to accept it. It's good vibes.

Speaker 3 So the other thing that we just passed a few days ago, not that this is a good anniversary, I'm not trying to say, wow, this is a fun one.

Speaker 3 But for me, it's always something on the calendar because I i know my social media is going to be a mess for 24 hours malice of the palace just came up again and i'm sure you know everyone on social media thinks that the guy that

Speaker 3 our test hits and then jermaine o'neal almost murders with the slide punch that he misses looks a lot like turtle from entourage it's uncanny

Speaker 1 Did you,

Speaker 1 what year was that?

Speaker 3 So that was

Speaker 1 2000. Was that 2006?

Speaker 3 Andrew, do you you know off the top of your head? We'll find out.

Speaker 1 So that was, okay, so my question to you is,

Speaker 1 and I'm sure you did this because you still live it, but like when that happened and it started going viral or whatever, and you're like, did you play that up?

Speaker 3 So you said funny word. You said viral.
There was no viral. I know.
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 Did you play that up?

Speaker 3 Here's what happened. It first was talked about as a joke on Sports Center because there was no Twitter.
There was no social media.

Speaker 3 So one of the anchors, I don't know which anchor it was, said, and then Jermaine O'Neill almost knocks out Turtle from

Speaker 3 they were dead they said it on sports center as a joke oh as a joke so it caught fire there and then once social media comes around forget it it's over for me because everyone's and i get millions of views it was oh

Speaker 1 2004 so by the way you play that up until you can't play it up a few things that's one of the greatest fights in the history turtle would never wear a pistons jersey ever

Speaker 3 what works against me is the cameras were not nearly as good then so the footage is grainy so you can't even that guy was a little big too he had a beard

Speaker 1 he was a little pudgy yeah Yeah, but he was a big boy, too. He was pretty round.

Speaker 3 But here's the ultimate thing of why I could tell you that's not me.

Speaker 3 I have a superpower. My superpower is I can tell you 30 seconds before a fight's about to break out.

Speaker 3 Whether it's in a club, on the street, in an arena, I could literally say, oh, we might want to start walking that way. They're about to brawl.
And you could look at them and they're just talking.

Speaker 3 I would have known from the minute our test laid on the scorers table, I said, babe, get your shit.

Speaker 1 We're getting out of here. Something's about to go down.

Speaker 3 Players don't lay on the scorers table like that, staring up at the sky. We're getting out of here.

Speaker 3 I would have been so far

Speaker 1 out of that arena.

Speaker 1 Meta is a friend. He's a friend.

Speaker 3 We're going to get him all. I've talked to him about it, and I believe he said he's reached out to that guy, and they've talked since.

Speaker 3 They've made amends.

Speaker 1 What a wild, like wild.

Speaker 3 And that's something I hope we never.

Speaker 3 ever, ever see.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to think now of like the greatest, like the, like those fights in sports.

Speaker 1 That's the by far. And obviously it was terrible that it happened, but like

Speaker 3 some good player fight. I was at a Knicks game.
Some hockey fights. I was at a Knicks game sitting next to Fat Joe when J.R.
Smith and Mello were still on the Nuggets.

Speaker 3 Nuggets were blowing out the Knicks and they were still, J.R. Smith was still doing 360 dunks.
Nate Robinson fouled J.R. Smith and grabbed him and they spilled into the arena.

Speaker 3 And that's the game where Mello sucker punched Marty Collins. And again, I knew I was already on the other side of the court.
I'm like, we're not going anywhere near that.

Speaker 3 These guys are about to fight.

Speaker 1 Man, I don't think I ever witnessed. Oh, I did.
I witnessed

Speaker 1 Andre Johnson fight. I was on the sideline.
Have you? Courtland.

Speaker 3 Wait, the Andre. That's the Andre Johnson fight.

Speaker 1 We'll get into that another day. That was like.

Speaker 3 You've never thrown hands in full uniform, right?

Speaker 1 No, I threw hands on fraternity row at USC once. It's got me suspended for football for two weeks, but that's a story for another day.
Story for another day.

Speaker 3 And also as a freshman. You're a lefty too, so you don't even see that south paw.

Speaker 1 Nah, I really, I, I'm, he, the guy grazed me.

Speaker 1 Long story, grazed me. I kind of wrapped around to go to the front of the house.
And by the time I got up there, my boys have already ripped him down, and they were, it was, it was bad.

Speaker 1 It was, I'm not proud of it. And then I saw that dude maybe a week later at the 9-0, which is where we always went.

Speaker 3 I know. I've been to the 9-0.

Speaker 1 You see, I've partied. And by the way,

Speaker 1 we actually like, sorry, hugged it out, and then we just went on our way.

Speaker 3 That's the way it should be. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's the way it should be.

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Speaker 1 and I was reading an article, and I think he was talking about his bench was like, dude, you need to come up with a celebration or something. And in the moment, he was just like,

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Speaker 1 By the way, and LeBron came out and was like, what the F? You got LeBron talking about this.

Speaker 1 I think it was 17th overall. He was the SEC player of the year, which is a good basketball conference.
I think he made a run. He had a crazy run in the SEC tournament.

Speaker 1 And even, I think, I'm assuming March Madness. I can't remember if he was, but like, he was dropping like 30 a game.
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Speaker 1 pretty far. And by the way, a little bit of like his head coach, JJ Reddick, like a lot, a little bit.
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Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 World Series, man, a couple of weeks ago, you've had some time to digest it.

Speaker 2 I'm a lifer Dodger.

Speaker 1 I'm a lifer Dodger. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Life's changed. Like, what's the last couple of weeks been like for you? I know it's probably been a whirlwind.

Speaker 2 It's been a whirlwind. It doesn't feel like it's...

Speaker 2 I was at dinner on Saturday night and

Speaker 2 somebody there was like, didn't you guys

Speaker 2 win like three weeks ago? And I had to like, I had to sit there and I like pulled up the calendar. I was like, how long has it been? It feels like it was like just yesterday.
And then, then

Speaker 2 he said it, and I was like, Maybe it has been like a really long time that I've been celebrating this thing. And part of that was

Speaker 2 in my head, I knew, like, okay, we had started to get back into okay, we got to get ready for next year mode.

Speaker 2 And like, was enjoying, I've been enjoying myself, just like celebrating it, uh, talking to the guys, talking with everybody about it, and like trying to bring, like, take in all those emotions.

Speaker 2 And then, um,

Speaker 2 but yeah, it's it's it's been crazy, I think, three weeks since

Speaker 2 we won it and just enjoying

Speaker 2 every little part of it. Like, it's been

Speaker 1 you had a great

Speaker 1 just post-game celebration. I think so, yeah.
You've been labeled something,

Speaker 1 man.

Speaker 2 We did, I did a, I did a signing and people were bringing me bottles of tequila. And I was like, I don't know if this is the reputation that I really want.
Like, it was, look, I, the parade was great.

Speaker 2 Uh,

Speaker 2 if you've, if you've seen recently, Mookie just, he released his podcast of all the guys at his house. I was sleeping when they recorded this.
I took a nice

Speaker 1 day. You were just listening to me.

Speaker 2 I had a great day. And if you listen to Walker talk,

Speaker 2 that's kind of where I was at. But I was asleep and they were like, where are you?

Speaker 2 Eventually I made it to Mookie's house and we continued on from there.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I was like, they started bringing me that. I was like, I don't know if this is.

Speaker 1 Did you see when you did the parade, but the, it was like with local news or something, and you kind of stumbled off the chair? Oh, yeah. By the way, I was so.

Speaker 1 Well, I'm talking about like post-camp. I was so, I was so, I watched that, and I swear I was like, I was like, fuck yeah, dude.
I was so proud. I was like proud of you, dude.

Speaker 1 I was like, that's what you, you just won a World Series. You balled out in the whole playoffs, obviously.
And like, did you just beat the Yankees in the World Series? Like, I'm going to get hammered.

Speaker 1 I'm going to enjoy the shit out of this because you earned it.

Speaker 3 J.R. Smith still hasn't put his shirt back on.

Speaker 1 The Cavs won the championship.

Speaker 3 The dude took his shirt off. He never put it back on.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it was, it was one of those, like, everything was really like buttoned up from September, October. We enjoyed

Speaker 2 after each round when we, when we won, like, team would get together, we'd go out, have some drinks and whatnot.

Speaker 2 But then it was like, once it was all over, it was like, like, everything was, it was just like, thank goodness. Like, we got it done.
We, we won. Like, let's celebrate and enjoy it.

Speaker 2 And I may have enjoyed it a little bit too much, but some may say, I did it right.

Speaker 1 Speaking of shirts off, you know where I'm going with this?

Speaker 1 Kershaw.

Speaker 1 Dude, so

Speaker 1 like, what happened to Kershaw, man? What do you mean? Dude, the guy's dad's done. No, he's the goat.

Speaker 1 I was telling these guys, I'm like, Clayton Kershaw will go down as one of the best pitchers of all time, in my opinion. But just like, he put some weight on him.

Speaker 3 Talking about his body. He's

Speaker 2 like, if you can go out

Speaker 2 and still pitch the way that he can and what he was still trying to do at the end of the year with the pain that he was in, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 He had back, right? Was it just a little bit?

Speaker 2 It was his toe was destroyed. He like messed up his side a little bit.
He was, I mean, he was grinding through his toe. Like, it was like, I don't think they really let on how bad it was.

Speaker 2 But if you can, it doesn't matter. You look in there and you look in the locker room.
Everybody wants to point to him. You look at some of the other guys.

Speaker 2 It's like baseball, it's all like, it's just different

Speaker 2 shapes, sizes. You got curse, you got glass, two guys that are so

Speaker 2 bad like Thor. Right.
Yeah, you got two guys that some are the best in the game of what they do. They look completely different.
You look at, um, it's so, you know, Kirsch can do whatever.

Speaker 1 I just was so, I was, I, I was, cause like, I got a dad bought and I never, I was like,

Speaker 2 dude, he rocks it.

Speaker 1 But that's like the first time I've ever seen it. It's kind of like when Patty Mahomes, so he had a shirt off last year, and they're like, this is the greatest player to ever live.

Speaker 1 And he kind of looks like just the average Joe,

Speaker 1 which all, which I think adds to the allure of Kershaw even more.

Speaker 3 That's why I like golf too. He's throwing on the golf shirt.
Nobody knows what's going on under there. If you can hit the ball, no one cares what's going on under there.

Speaker 1 I hope he gets healthy, man, and just go. I mean, he will.

Speaker 2 He's a stud. He was so much fun to be around.
And, you know, I grew up watching him being in LA and everything and to be able to be his teammate and talk to him and talk baseball.

Speaker 2 And then after big starts in the playoffs, get a hug from him. Like, it was, it was, it was pretty cool.

Speaker 3 Well, that's what's look. I'm, full disclosure, Yankee fan.

Speaker 1 Very happy for you.

Speaker 3 But in that three weeks you're talking about,

Speaker 3 it.

Speaker 1 You felt like it went on for a

Speaker 1 you felt like it went on for a long time. I forgot about it right away.
I moved on to free agents. Wait, we had real facts.
We had Swisher, Nick Swisher on, who's a buddy of ours, and the Yankee guys.

Speaker 1 Right before the World Series, right? Before getting a whole pod with Swish, and it was an hour of just Yankee talk and like soda. We made massive Yankee pornography.

Speaker 3 And I think that's what also helped you guys.

Speaker 1 I was like, fuck this, dude. My boys are real.

Speaker 3 No, but the thing that stuck out too, watching that I knew the Yankees were in in trouble besides just a lot of the on-the-field stuff like you you guys really do look tight

Speaker 2 i know every team is tight but you because every team says that you guys genuinely looked like you were a tight knit so i think there was a bunch of a bunch of teams in baseball are and i think what was like what was crazy about the dodgers was if you look towards the all-star game people are making a big deal about them not staying for Tay Oscar winning the home run derby and people tried to make a big deal out of it.

Speaker 2 I never really bought it being on the other side and knowing some of the guys in there.

Speaker 2 And then coming over, seeing how close that they actually were and guys really giving up family time during the playoffs. Like it was kind of a point of emphasis, like, guys, we're going to dinner.

Speaker 2 We're hanging out. We're, we're getting together.
We, we win the NLCS against New York. We all went out in L.A.

Speaker 2 like, I was, I was, I was genuinely shocked how many got, it was like, no, like, we're going out. We're getting drinks.
Like, we're going to enjoy this together. And it just like continued on.

Speaker 1 Like, we would spend all, we spent all day at the stadium um and then and those guys just they pulled for each other especially how much they had all kind of been through the last couple years i think people like i mean in all sports but even like on a set we were talking like how the chemistry on your show and entourage like you guys probably didn't know each other go in and you have an eight-year run or nine-year run like people don't understand how important like off the field stuff is like you got to be trust accountability you got to be there for those guys in all sports baseball football like the locker room to me was like is like the most sacred place in the world like those are your those are your boys you're going to battle with you got to get a gnome you got like it's just like that goes a long way in winning i think it really does especially when then you have good players that's the lightning in the bottle like with sets you can't cast a show and say we're thinking you guys are going to have lots of chemistry you either have it i feel like sports is similar yeah you put a bunch of guys in the room who are all top top of what they do.

Speaker 3 And it doesn't always mean that just because they're the best at what they do, they're going to figure it out on the field.

Speaker 2 Especially when you get three guys who have, well, four guys who have MVPs and Mookie, Freddy, Shohei, and Kirsch. You get all them in a room.

Speaker 2 You get these guys with huge contracts and everything and thinking there's going to be huge egos all around. And

Speaker 2 coming over there, I didn't really expect it because I'd known Mookie a little bit. I've heard great things about Freddy from Max, who had played with him.

Speaker 2 I heard about Shohei from Gilito, who'd played with him. And

Speaker 2 known Kirsch a little bit. Like, you just didn't expect any of that to be the case.

Speaker 2 Nobody was above anybody else. It was, it was from top to bottom.
Everybody was the same other than you get your certain rookie duties and that certain guys have to do.

Speaker 2 But it was, that's as close knit as I've seen.

Speaker 1 When you like, you just mentioned coming over, when you got traded to the Dodgers, obviously hometown, all that, I'm sure you had some excitement too, but what, just like, what is, what is that like?

Speaker 1 Just like you get a call, you're like, I got to go to LA the next day. Like

Speaker 2 that process. Yeah.
So the trade deadline was, I think, on a monday or something we had a weird day game

Speaker 2 and so i lived like 30 minutes from the stadium in detroit and our game got done at four i think the deadline was at six and i was like i'm not going home like i'm just we were i was waiting during the game i was like you knew it was going to sing it was coming that you were potentially i knew i potentially was going to never know i loved being in detroit i loved it there i knew that team was really good and we had lost some close games and you saw what they did in the playoffs like it was fun to watch and um,

Speaker 2 but I just, I was like, you know what? I'm just going to sit here. I just sat in the locker room, didn't pack anything.
He's like, I don't want to go home and then come back and pack.

Speaker 2 And a couple of guys stuck around. A couple of the trainers stuck around.

Speaker 2 Scoobel stuck around with me. We played cards for about an hour.
And at that point, they were like, all right, like, I gotta, he's like, I gotta go home, see my wife.

Speaker 1 Like, she's like, where are you? What are you doing?

Speaker 2 And so I just sat there and waited. And it got down to like 10 minutes before, like 30 minutes before AJ, a manager, he comes in.
And I look at him, I go, you got anything for me? He just goes, no.

Speaker 2 And I knew he was full of it.

Speaker 1 I knew he was full of it.

Speaker 2 He wasn't, he had a very good poker face, but I knew he wasn't just coming in there to just sit with me for the next.

Speaker 1 And then

Speaker 2 my agent texts me that I was going to dinner's right before the GM walks in the room.

Speaker 2 And so my only thoughts then were, how quick can I fire off this text to my mom to let her know before it like breaks so she's not seeing it. like on TV or Twitter.

Speaker 2 And that was my only thought was, I got to get this text off to her. And I'm like, mid conversation with GM be like, I got to stop.
Like, I know where. He's like, you know where we're going.

Speaker 2 And I was like, yeah, LA, but I got to fire it. I got to send this to my mom.

Speaker 1 I mean, she had to be just over the moon, right?

Speaker 2 I think that's when it hit that I was going to LA. And like, it's something we had talked about, obviously.
Like, will it ever happen? Will I ever get the chance to come home? And

Speaker 2 never something we really ever thought was going to happen. Spent seven years in St.
Louis and

Speaker 2 went over, was in Detroit this year.

Speaker 2 And, you you know, getting on the phone with her and talking with her and hearing like her excitement. And, you know, she was just like, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 You know, you grew up, like, I grew up taking into these games and going there as like, as a, as a baby and spent like, you know, my teenage years there and growing up.

Speaker 2 And that's just where I like, that's where I fell in love with the game of baseball.

Speaker 1 And so it was cool.

Speaker 2 It was awesome playing there as a visiting team, as like the road team coming in there and playing and seeing family and everything and going against those guys.

Speaker 2 And and then playing there being on the other side it was that was it was different but yeah and then i mean i get on call with the travel agent and it's hey can you meet us in san diego tomorrow and i was like

Speaker 2 sure i i had i had had two bags packed just in case like just in case it was like it happened i had two bags packed just having been through it a year before i'll be like i'm gonna be so i so i was so I think it's fascinating, man, because when I was in Arizona, I was four years and I met with the co, I got cut.

Speaker 1 So I was like, hey, we're going to cut you. I kind of knew what was happening.

Speaker 1 And literally an hour or two later, I'm on with my agent and like, Houston's going to sign you, Texans. And I was like, I was fired up because it was Kubiak.
It was like a good team or whatever.

Speaker 1 And I literally went home.

Speaker 1 I packed like maybe a little carry-on and I just went. I never set foot on my Arizona house again.
I never, I never went.

Speaker 3 I didn't say a property.

Speaker 1 I didn't even go back to Arizona for like 10 years. It was a little backbone, man.
I was, F these guys.

Speaker 1 I was a little pissed, but different, probably different than baseball, but like, like i just think it's fascinating so like you you've bounced around a little bit you've been a couple organizations like

Speaker 1 what is like

Speaker 1 peel back the curtain of that because i was people will ask me like dude i never went back to my house that was where i lived i loved it there and i'm just like the next day i'm literally in on practice squad for the texans like learning a brand new system trying and trying to like you know, like get along with the new team and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 3 Fans don't think about like, oh, Matsko also got to like sell his house, get his stuff.

Speaker 1 What's like, like, find a place to live

Speaker 1 this lifestyle, like we make good money, we're professional athletes, all this, like it's hard, man. Moving around, sometimes it's hard.
And you just said, like, I'm going to San Diego.

Speaker 1 You're probably suiting up like a couple of days. Now, all of a sudden, you're pitching to Will Smith.
You're like, you got it. It's like all this shit.

Speaker 2 It was, it was, it was crazy. So like, having been through it going to Baltimore last year, going to LA was a lot easier for the sole reason that I had family here.

Speaker 1 And right. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Like, I just, when I came to LA, I just, I stayed at my mom's house for like a week while I was looking for a house. And then a buddy of mine is like, oh, our neighbors are renting their house out.

Speaker 2 Do you, you want to rent it? I was like, absolutely. Like, so it was a lot easier.
Whereas

Speaker 2 I think that's a rare case whereas going to Baltimore, getting traded from, get traded from

Speaker 2 St. Louis.

Speaker 2 And, you know, I think it's a Tuesday.

Speaker 2 And I'm on the phone with the manager. And he's like, you think you can pitch Thursday? And then they're in Toronto.
So I'm like, I mean, yeah, like

Speaker 1 for the new team.

Speaker 2 Damn. And so that one, like, I get traded and flying to Baltimore on Wednesday or flying to Toronto on Wednesday,

Speaker 2 like get there at like five, like two hours before game time, have like a quick meeting, whatnot, do some stuff to get ready for the next day, and then like go in and pitch the next day.

Speaker 2 Like, and they do, they did a whole thing where it was like player of the game has to give a speech.

Speaker 2 And I'm like, like, I don't know any of you guys' names, but like, we'll get, we'll figure that out. Like, I just appreciate being here.

Speaker 2 And then going to LA, like, I get on a, I have have two bags already packed.

Speaker 2 So I come home, get on a call with my friends because

Speaker 2 they're excited.

Speaker 3 That's where I'm going next.

Speaker 1 I finished LAST with them.

Speaker 2 And it's like, I'm on a plane then next morning to San Diego doing some work, then flying with the team, then fly with the team up to Oakland and then pitch two days later.

Speaker 2 And then it was on back to L.A. So it was just a lot of moving around and then getting my stuff from Detroit to LA.

Speaker 3 Luckily, I had some people people who helped me out a lot and moving around but yeah it's not easy we were talking right before we were rolling about power right so i did entourage for years in la and then i got the chance to move back home from new york power shoots in new york and i was very excited but then when i got back home it's like oh i'm definitely very accessible now to like kids i grew up with and hey can i come by set next you know i have 14 meatheads by set

Speaker 3 everyone's coming to set so i early on was like look this is great because i used to i would go see my mom for dinner every night. And I always wished that that way, and I would bring my mom to set.

Speaker 3 But there were times, and also it's very easy to get distracted in New York, just like it is LA.

Speaker 2 There's a lot going on.

Speaker 3 A couple of times I said, I got to do a little extra effort to make sure the main focus is I'm back here to work. So at any point for you, you have like, you grew up here, you got a lot of friends.

Speaker 3 I'm not saying negative distractions, but you know, it's

Speaker 1 and you're on the road a lot, but when you're home, I'm sure everybody wants to take playoff tickets. Yo, hook me up.
How many playoff tickets are you going to do?

Speaker 2 Everybody asks about is

Speaker 2 tickets and playoff tickets and i think what we did my mom honestly did a really good job of this my rookie year of pretty much letting people know like don't bother him for tickets right i'm gonna leave tickets for my close immediate family and if you want to come you can buy your own and i just kind of kept that all throughout my time in st louis whenever i'd come to la

Speaker 2 and then even coming over Now it was a little bit different. It'd be like, okay, on days I pitch, my close core group, they knew they had a ticket.
And I would, we had our own thing.

Speaker 2 I was like, hey, let let me know if you guys want a ticket. I'm pitching on this day.
And I would make sure that they had their tickets left.

Speaker 2 And anybody else who asked me for days on, I was pitching, wouldn't really matter. Now, if they asked on a random day, hey, you have any extra tickets? Like, yeah, I'd leave them.

Speaker 2 And then playoffs, it was like,

Speaker 2 it was, I mean, it was like my mom, my brother were taken care of, that my agents took care of them on days I pitched. And then it was my close core group.

Speaker 2 my mentor and his family, like, because I like, I've loved them for, I've known them forever since I was like eight years old. and

Speaker 2 so it wasn't it could have been crazier but I'm appreciative of my friends who allowed me to say no yeah and be like look that's great I just and I and I also just didn't have any more like my guy it was like it was like my family and like immediate like close like I had it for them and then it was like do you have any more and I was like I really just don't I don't have any more so I was appreciative of them not giving me a hard time and

Speaker 2 letting that happen and then in terms terms of like my time and availability, it would be, you know, when, you know, they just, they'd come to the house and they make it, they'd make it easy, like come to the house, hang out.

Speaker 2 I could see them whenever they'd come to the games.

Speaker 2 I think they were happy. They didn't have to wait for me after games because for me, I take forever after I pitch.
I'm like, my mom's like, are you ever going to come out?

Speaker 2 It's like, we're an hour, hour and a half.

Speaker 3 I wouldn't be in a rush to leave either, man. I would take my time.

Speaker 2 100%. But also, and for me, I learned quickly that

Speaker 2 guys were either out of there really quickly or they're sticking around in LA because you're still dealing with the traffic of trying to get out of your stadium. So,

Speaker 1 yeah, I always took my time.

Speaker 1 What are you like on game day? Like in the World Series? Because a lot of guys have superstitions. A lot of guys like,

Speaker 1 I feel like pitchers too, because I always watch you come in after no one talks to you, right? You're just locked in. Like, what is

Speaker 1 Game five World Series? Like, what's that day like for you?

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 2 everybody is different.

Speaker 2 And me, I'm, I'm the same all the time where I'm just don't talk to anybody. Right.
Okay. Like I don't, I don't talk to anybody.

Speaker 2 I, I go, I didn't even, did I go down for breakfast? I think I ordered some breakfast to the room, ate, took a nap.

Speaker 2 Um, I mean, game five, I didn't pitch well, but like, it'd be the same game five versus game one. Same exact thing.
Same routine. Like, come in, you know, get out of my car, come in.

Speaker 2 Like, head nod to everybody. Hey, hi, how you doing? And they know Trey Right.

Speaker 2 They learned, they learned quickly, like, oh, he doesn't doesn't want to talk to anybody. Like, they learned start one

Speaker 2 in Oakland. Like, you're locked in.
Like, oh,

Speaker 2 yeah, but see,

Speaker 2 it's not like, it is like for me, that's what I have to do to get locked in. Some guys are, are chilling, playing cards, doing that.
And that's how they are. And they can still get locked in.

Speaker 2 I tried it. It just doesn't work for me.
And I'm like, I don't, I'm not, I'm not talking to you. I don't want to talk to anybody.
I learned in Detroit quickly. I was the same way.
Baltimore, St.

Speaker 2 Louis, it it was just like, you know, like, I don't really, the headphones are going to go in. I'm just going to kind of chill.
Maybe on certain days where I just like

Speaker 2 in there, like, I'll talk to, there's very few people that I will talk to. I would talk to one of the trainers in Detroit.

Speaker 2 I would talk to one of the trainers in St. Louis.

Speaker 2 And that, that was like kind of it. Occasionally, I talk to some of the, some of the players and pitching coaches, but have a short little five-minute meeting.
And otherwise, like, I'm just, I'm.

Speaker 1 How about our boy Bernie, Bernie Lee.

Speaker 2 Oh, man, he, he was the best, but he knew I wasn't going to talk to him. I was out.

Speaker 2 It would be, it's just, I go through the training room a couple times, head knot everybody, and just go on, go on with my business.

Speaker 1 Bernie is, I've known Bernie for like 10 years because he was tied in with the guy at USC. And I got two fake hips this year, dude.
That's, yeah.

Speaker 1 And so Bernie was like one of the first guys to work on my hips like 12 years ago. So he run, he's like the head PT guy at the Dodgers now.
But, and by the way, he's my ticket guy for the Dodgers.

Speaker 1 I'll text him, Bern. Can I get a few tickets this week?

Speaker 2 He's got you. Yeah, he's got you.
Yeah, no, they don't talk to anybody.

Speaker 3 We were talking about, you know, when I first moved to LA, I spent a lot first couple years in Burbank. And

Speaker 3 I'm looking at like your pitching rotation you had in school coming up.

Speaker 1 Is this real?

Speaker 2 Or am I being lied to? No.

Speaker 3 So you had Max Freed. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And Lucas G. and Lucas G.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 They were both, so they were both two years old. Did anyone ever hit you?

Speaker 1 You guys had to win a national title. You got to have a title.

Speaker 2 So what happened?

Speaker 2 We didn't win it that year so max and lucas were two years older than me right i was a sophomore they were seniors lucas got hurt oh his our senior year and i feel like i can tell the story i don't think i've ever given actual like details of it but like it's safe place with cut it he was he was

Speaker 2 potentially gonna go one one that year and he gets hurt mid-game

Speaker 2 And we have to have a whole like meeting the next, like I come in, pitch right, pitch after him, we win that game, and we have a whole meeting like a couple days later because it's like hey if anybody ever asks you can't say like it's uh

Speaker 2 you can't say it's a tear like just say it's it's whatever and

Speaker 2 um we're like okay i don't think anybody's ever gonna like it's a bunch of high schoolers anybody's gonna ask any of us right and so

Speaker 1 we

Speaker 2 he tries to like rehab and try to pitch that like for he doesn't try to pitch for us but he got ready to pitch for for scouts and everybody and but but so what ends up happening, now it's just, it's me and Max, and we've got a bunch of guys who are juniors, sophomores, and a couple of freshmen.

Speaker 2 And I mean, we got beat in playoffs that year. We lost a game like two to one.

Speaker 2 And then oddly enough, the next year we ended up winning it when it was, the team was all juniors and seniors.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 who'd you guys lose to?

Speaker 2 A school called Placentia Valencia. They had some guy come out,

Speaker 2 absolutely like, just shoved it on us.

Speaker 2 And we were like, it was one of those days like we lost two to one and it was just like were you po or did you hit two no i played i played third short center freed played right and center he could have gone i i still tell guys to this day like he could have gone played the outfield and and he's i mean he's gonna he's unbelievable but he could have gone played the outfield in the big league i love like we talk like i think i want to ask you about shohe but like hitting pitchers like obviously in in the league it's it's just hard but like so max was you'd think max was a stud yeah max i feel like all you guys were stud hitters but at some point you just have to make a pick a language.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean, the dude threw 94, 97 from the left side in high school. It was like, but he also, like, I think I've lost two races in my life, and one of them was to Max.
Really? And yeah, he.

Speaker 1 So you could run too? Yeah, so could he, though.

Speaker 2 It was like,

Speaker 1 by the way, you look like a football player, dude.

Speaker 1 You could have been like a

Speaker 2 get around people and feel like, oh, you're bigger than I thought you would be. And I'm like, you know, I don't know.
But Max was, Max was an athlete.

Speaker 2 And then, and Gio was, was throwing 100 in high school. And

Speaker 2 he is uh

Speaker 2 that yeah it was it was it was crazy having i don't i don't know it was crazy watching the two of them because i didn't know anything in high school about like i didn't know you could come in i didn't know you could get drafted and go right and sign i didn't know we didn't pay attention to anything and i meet geo he's one of the first guys i meet when i'm a freshman and he comes up to me like summer going into my freshman year says hi and everybody's like oh this guy's a huge deal i was like i have no idea who this dude is he's signed to ucla and everything i was like i don't know a single thing about high school baseball.

Speaker 2 I'm like, I just didn't. And then you start to learn everything.
And then you watch. And then you see the scouts come and they're watching them.

Speaker 2 And so for me, I got very lucky where I never had to go do, I had to do very little of the like the

Speaker 2 self-promo, like the showcase type stuff because I just got to play with two guys who win the first round. So there was a way.
They're already watching me.

Speaker 2 They're watching another guy, Arden Papps, who went to, went to Georgia Tech. Our first base went to USC.

Speaker 2 So like we were loaded around and people were coming to watch them, them, and then they're like, I just got noticed and I didn't have to go do anything else. It was just like, oh, okay.

Speaker 1 You

Speaker 2 like now we've taken notice of you.

Speaker 3 You know, colleges come in and it was scouts and whatnot, but watching the way they handle scouts was that could be a blessing and a curse though, because you're still only a sophomore, you're a kid, and now all that attention is there.

Speaker 3 could have like a half bad year and all of a sudden scouts are already making labels on you as a as like a sophomore, like, oh, you know,

Speaker 3 it's just a lot. It's just a lot.
It's good. I think it's a good thing that you didn't play into the self-promotion game or had to.
I just, you probably just focused on what you were doing.

Speaker 2 It's tough now. Like, I know, you know, I run into people now and they talk about how it is and where baseball has gone in terms of like the showcase and

Speaker 2 travel ball and everything is, is in a really,

Speaker 2 it's in a very strange place that

Speaker 2 kind of needs to get figured out because it's just not.

Speaker 1 Do you think, do you think that's, so? I have this conversation. My oldest is 18.
He just committed for football. But like, I've always been on the fence of like club.
It's a lot more competitive now.

Speaker 1 It's just, it's different. But like,

Speaker 1 I don't know, like your advice, like you, you had the route of like, hey, if I'm talented, if I get seen, you got seen, you lucked out and all that kind of thing. And it is a blessing.

Speaker 1 I think it's just like.

Speaker 1 Do you think it's like in baseball? Do you think it's necessary for these kids to go to all these showcases? And like, it's not. No, half of them aren't good enough to do it.
And that's the thing.

Speaker 1 It's like more than half of them are never going to make it.

Speaker 2 Which is the problem is that, and I don't even know how we got on this conversation, but the problem is that

Speaker 2 it's all like numbers based now. So it's not like, what can you do against this pitching? It's like, how hard do you hit the ball? How hard do you throw? How fast can you run in this and that?

Speaker 2 So it's like, that's all the showcase stuff instead of like, how do you actually compete against these guys? So like, now it was different.

Speaker 2 When I was growing up, we didn't like, it wasn't as big of a thing. I played literally baseball with my best friends from seven until 12, like seven until 11.

Speaker 2 And then I like skipped my last year to continue playing with them because I played up and we were playing, we were playing travel ball. And during that time, I'm playing travel ball.

Speaker 2 But when it was winter, fall and winter time,

Speaker 2 we were playing basketball, we were playing football, like volleyball, whatever it was. And that's, that's just, that's how we did it.
And I think it helped every single one of them.

Speaker 2 A bunch of those guys ended up going to D1 schools and like just randomly out of out of nowhere.

Speaker 2 We all ended up going, like some of the best high school kids, like you look in the valley you look at the names we all played on the on the same team coming up and we all went we all went Sherman Oaks Little League like that's just that's just what we did and now it's like none of that really exists it's all you know traveling here traveling there for for games and and club ball and and I and I get it to an extent but it's but I'm like I wish it was the way it was when I was growing up because it was I just felt it was better.

Speaker 1 Sherman Oaks Little League is still fire. I mean, so we played Manhattan Beach with Joe Verbon.
So one of his agents' kid and my kid are good buddies, South Bay.

Speaker 1 So we did the whole Manhattan Beach Little League, try to get to Williamsport and all that. And Sherman Oaks Little League is always in the regional.

Speaker 1 Like we played them same tournament three years in a row. It's a really good thing,

Speaker 1 man. They're still doing it.

Speaker 3 I only have one like athletic. almost claims fame.
We were one game away from

Speaker 1 Williams. When I was throwing your catches and you pulled the quad.

Speaker 3 We had a team out of Brooklyn.

Speaker 1 Pull this squad.

Speaker 3 We were like the Bad News Bears. We had this ragtag group of kids that they formed like the super team in New York.
And we almost came out of the east and made it to Williamsport. We got rocked.

Speaker 3 You know what I remember that messed us up?

Speaker 3 Tell me what you think of this because it's stuck with me since I was 10 years old. A bunch of kids from Brooklyn will never left Brooklyn.
We go to the tournament to get to Williamsport.

Speaker 3 It was in Connecticut in the suburbs, right? We get to the hotel. They had an indoor pool.
No one ever saw a pool inside before. Like, whoa, there's a pool inside.
So check, stay with me for a second.

Speaker 1 Swim on game.

Speaker 3 We came in there as like the worst team in this conference. We were going to get rocked.
So we really didn't care.

Speaker 1 We're going to have fun.

Speaker 3 We're playing in the indoor pool. How great is this?

Speaker 1 We go out. We win game one.

Speaker 3 Other teams talking trash. Oh, you kids are from Brooklyn.
You can't play. You don't even have a field.

Speaker 3 We win game two. I'm a 10, nine.
Lily's.

Speaker 1 Nine or ten.

Speaker 1 Oh, we were trash.

Speaker 3 So we get to the final game. Winner goes to the Little League World Series.
Our coach tells us, no one goes in the indoor pool today.

Speaker 3 I don't want anyone getting hurt. I don't want you guys getting tired.
And all of a sudden, we got tight.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you can't kidding me. We got nervous.

Speaker 3 We weren't nervous till that, but no, none of us were nervous till that point. And all of a sudden, coach says, you guys can't go in the indoor pool.
I don't want anyone getting hurt.

Speaker 3 I don't want anyone horsing around. And we're like, oh, this game must be important if he's saying that.
We got rocked 11-1 the next day.

Speaker 1 And we were scared. So you're blaming it on the coach in the pool.

Speaker 3 No, no, I'm just wondering if there's anything to with kids, like, just let them play. Like, to like Jack's point, like, just go play with your friends and like be who you are.

Speaker 3 And don't get so serious at that time.

Speaker 1 point

Speaker 2 yeah the possibility is you're like nine ten eleven like

Speaker 3 some of our guys might have been 15 years old by the way that's that's possible i'm not saying i'm just saying it could have been 15 yeah but at nine to eleven the beard you're a bunch of kids like you're gonna have plenty of energy no matter what like that's yeah just wanted to go what position what position were you playing i played well left field a lot a little second base a little left field

Speaker 1 i got a hot bat toward the end does this guy not look like jose altube second baseman second baseman that's been my halloween costume for five years.

Speaker 3 Jose Altuvell.

Speaker 1 I hate the Astros.

Speaker 1 I hate the Astros too.

Speaker 3 Hey, look, Detroit knocked him out, right? They did.

Speaker 1 Props to Detroit for getting rid of the Astros. I was at the World Series when they beat the Dodgers and the whole cheating thing, man, that shit still pisses me off to this day.
How is that?

Speaker 1 That's crazy, right?

Speaker 1 You don't need to comment on it, but like banging trash cans and stuff.

Speaker 2 Hey, you know, there was a lot of things going on.

Speaker 2 There was a lot of things going on at that time in baseball. And that just happened to be the most egregious of them.

Speaker 1 Sein stealing. Yeah.
There was a lot of things going on. We had that in college football with Michigan sign stealing.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Which everyone does anyway. It's like, well, everybody, yeah, everybody.
Everybody was.

Speaker 1 Dude, my dad back in Little League was like,

Speaker 1 he was the greatest decoder. He would have anyone signs in literally eight pitches.
We had that like, you know, first name, fastball, last name, curveball. Like, let's go line it.

Speaker 1 I'm like, all right, it's curveball coming. That was high school.
Hell, it wasn't high school. So you cheated.
You cheated. Yeah.
I don't know if I could show anything.

Speaker 1 You cheated in the bush push, apparently, too, because that was against the rules. Apparently, that was against the rules.
Allegedly.

Speaker 3 How old were you for the bush?

Speaker 1 Do you remember the buddy?

Speaker 2 I was on my 10th birthday, actually. I remember it very vividly.

Speaker 1 Where were you?

Speaker 2 I was at a, it was probably the only birthday party I ever had. Like, swear.
It was no offense to my mom lover.

Speaker 1 Like, it was. I was about to say, damn, that sucks.
No, we were just always playing.

Speaker 2 And for some reason,

Speaker 2 on that day, we,

Speaker 2 I don't know, we, we had games and then we were at a bowling alley.

Speaker 2 And we can remember watching it with with everybody and it was like that was the most that that's I mean that and the one other game were that was the most nerve-wracking game and then the other game was the most depressing game of ever were you a big Reggie fan I'm assuming yeah that dude is still to this day man I had the pleasure going to USC with Matt yesterday to shoot some stuff and as a guy who never really went to college my lord though seeing Matt walk around And like on that campus, it's just, I'm like, I should have went to college.

Speaker 3 I wouldn't have had Matt's experience, but uh i should have went to college we would have been our entourage dude we would have been hanging yeah i could i could have been like i could have been some kind of equipment manager or something i could have helped out

Speaker 1 it was cool it was cool to be on that campus with you though i feel like growing up like in that time and you're a big kobe guy right lakers oh we got talks

Speaker 1 we have a kobe like that's my I mean, SC, but like Dodgers and Lakers, man. Kobe was my favorite athlete.
I think if you grew up here, you're just like.

Speaker 2 Had to be. It was, it was, it was Dodgers, Lakers, and SC for me growing up.

Speaker 1 And that time, too, because like we all, because at that time, there were no NFL teams. And we were, we were, and like, I remember it was you were the NFL team.
Well, Kobe and Shaq.

Speaker 1 Kobe and Shaq went on that, that run, and then Shaq left. And then that was when we kind of took over.
And the Dodgers, I think, were kind of up and down at that point.

Speaker 1 Like, so we were like, it was like the team. But then we got Gasol.
And I say we because Lakers, but Gasol came. And then that's when we went on the other run again.

Speaker 3 Did you see Kobe play like go to a lot of Laker games as a a kid? Did you get the chance to see a lot of Kobe in person or not?

Speaker 2 I didn't. As I got older, I got to go a couple times, but like we, I definitely spent a lot more time going to Dodger games.
Right.

Speaker 2 And I don't even, I think

Speaker 2 like SC

Speaker 2 we watched all the games, never really, never really went. And then even for Laker games, like I would, I'd watch the games on TV all the time.

Speaker 2 I just, I can't remember going a whole lot, um, a whole lot down there. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And then as I, as i got older like go down there i got to see him like especially towards the end uh the end of his career um

Speaker 3 but yeah we we we didn't go to a whole lot of lakers games but this was a lot well we do a throwback three every episode where we like just pick an old school topic list our top three we were gonna do kobe moments today would if you want to participate you can or you can just listen and critique ours i would love to listen and critique and then think of three do you want to do it now or should we wait for the

Speaker 3 three we do a throwback three we just pick our three favorite personal to Kobe moments.

Speaker 1 We've done like video games. Yeah, we've done like best sports video games.

Speaker 1 Actually, sports video games would be fun. Best fictional athlete.
Yeah, the best. Oh, my goodness.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 2 I only do sports video games.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we do. No, we were like.

Speaker 3 What sports video games do you play?

Speaker 2 Well, it's a lot of 2K, FIFA.

Speaker 3 I might be able to house you in 2K.

Speaker 2 I would love to see it.

Speaker 3 I managed the Knicks 2K league team. I was a GM for it.

Speaker 1 Matt, don't. By the way, I have a championship ring.

Speaker 1 What's wrong with you? i have a championship ring we talking about i'm the only banner in msg in the last 50 years do you stream do you stream no oh we'll stream i'll stream 25 we'll stream

Speaker 1 2k

Speaker 1 i'm so glad called football's it's awesome oh yeah it's like so we so now we're all no i went all

Speaker 1 we did like uh mike tyson's punch out just old school like the like nostalgia uh we didn't do madden nhl 94 is like the greatest hockey game ever 2k

Speaker 1 he's young madden but like what else do we do like tony hawk was one of my own tony hawk was a good one yeah for me it'd be like mvp baseball with mvp

Speaker 2 on the cover i don't remember if that's 0405 i always forget manny it was a doctor yeah it was the madden with vic on the cover you want to do our kobe throwback three you want to go first yeah so i'm going to say my personal one for first so i my one of my

Speaker 1 best one of the best is the lob to shaq the lob to shaq i think it was 2000

Speaker 1 you weren't even where you were like four, five. So I was 17, whatever.
I remember that was like the, the prime, it was, it was 2000 conference finals against the Blazers. That was Scotty.

Speaker 3 And Shaq's face was the best.

Speaker 1 And it's just like, and that was like them like, then knowing what we knew about them pretty much like hating each other at that time off the court, but then on the court, like that lob in my mind still to this, it's like, it's like Reggie Bush highlights.

Speaker 1 You can watch the Reggie Bush highlight 20 years later. Like, I watched that highlight still, and I'm like, I got goosebumps sick about it.
So that moment and that led to the, to the finals.

Speaker 3 I'm so bummed out because my number three is like we got to film entourage courtside at laker games which no one else ever really did but we did it twice both games we did it kobe was out

Speaker 3 so game one it was like smush parker put up 21 and game two i honestly i could name almost every nba player i didn't even know half the guys on the lakers that's how injured they were chris mim but kobe so but yeah my first is the kobe all-star game when he was young and he got to go up against mj and that's where all the

Speaker 3 he really saw that this dude is kind of different because he wanted to go at Jordan.

Speaker 1 I think that was in the dock that MJ did. It was in that.
When he was like, hey, this kid on the other side is going to go up against the game.

Speaker 1 He's holding like this.

Speaker 3 The Laker boy is going to try to score 50.

Speaker 1 That's sick. My second was his last game, the 61, man.
That was like,

Speaker 1 I think I might have had an opportunity to go. I was one of those things, like, I should go buy tickets to go to the game.
And I just, I was like, one of those, like, I'd rather just watch the game.

Speaker 3 One of our guests in the future episode had court side tickets and did not and decided to do something.

Speaker 1 Just for him, for him, I missed it. Are you serious? Yeah.

Speaker 3 Well, you think about it. It's like, oh, you want to go watch Lakers Raptors on a Tuesday night in February, whenever it was.
It's like, ah, last game. I got plans.

Speaker 1 And then he went off for 61. Yeah, that was good.
That was just sad, man. 81 points.
It was an end of an era, man.

Speaker 3 81-point game is my number two. Yeah.
The Raptors' 81-point game is just bananas. I don't know if you're going to know my number one.

Speaker 1 So my number one is awesome.

Speaker 1 So, and I got to know Kobe a little bit off the off the court we have mutual friends down in he lived in newport beach so we had mutual friends down there and i'm at a barbecue on maybe fourth of july we're at the beach and

Speaker 1 it's me cole my oldest is 18 so he's probably i don't even know nine at this time or whatever and so i'm like this with kobe and his family and getting to know them and then we're just talking he was talking about players it was just awesome to see him in that light and by the end of the night i shit you not we're in uh we're in Emerald Bay.

Speaker 1 I don't know if you've ever been to Emerald Bay. It's like a private community, small, it's like 50 homes in there.

Speaker 1 And we're in a golf cart to go from the beach to whatever house we were going back to. And we had, it was a six-seater.
And we, I'll never forget this. Kobe's driving.
I'm in the front.

Speaker 1 Cole is like, we had, I shit you.

Speaker 1 We had 14 people on this golf cart. Kobe's driving.
Kobe's driving. And people are hanging on the side.

Speaker 3 Kids, like. I just would keep going.
Kobe.

Speaker 1 No, it was.

Speaker 1 And my best friend still, my best friend friend from high school still and he's like a diehard Kobe he's like he might be like turtle an entourage he was like my boy kind of funny like he he was like and he's like yo dude Kobe's driving a golf court like and I'm just like keep it cool dude like shit and Kobe starts just wheeling like this and I'm like he's trying to get it was just like the funniest thing ever I'm like surreal and then it was just like and then I ran into him so that's my number one then I then we just became like you know acquaintances I see him and say what's up and then he followed my sons sons.

Speaker 1 And then I'd actually like, I'd seen him at a basketball tournament before the track, like three weeks before he passed, man. And he was talking to Cole.
We talked about that. Cole had grown.

Speaker 1 My son's 6'4. So like, he was like, this was eighth, that was like whatever, right before he passed.
So a couple of years ago.

Speaker 1 And I was like, and it was just every time I saw, he was, he meant so much to me.

Speaker 1 But that moment, man, I'll never forget like just the laughter he was just trying to like get people off the golf cart and stuff, man.

Speaker 3 So my number one, Jack's going to lead me to a question for you that I've gotten a lot of heat about and you're probably going to say like shut up old man you're being a hater interesting uh my number one is the kobe press conference when they're like you're up three games to one you got to be feeling pretty good he's like up two games zero by the way two zero yeah he's like why should i feel good

Speaker 3 job the job's not finished press conference to me that's one that is one of the best off the court sports moments because that tells you every single thing. We don't really see that anymore.

Speaker 3 So why that brings me to baseball for a second? And I put this out on Twitter and I said it on the show and I got torched.

Speaker 1 Such a bad take.

Speaker 2 I don't know if I've seen this take. You definitely didn't see a take.

Speaker 3 I understand when you like clinch a division in baseball, you pop some champagne for sure. I get it.

Speaker 1 Long season.

Speaker 3 Baseball is a long season.

Speaker 3 Or even if, hey, we got a wild card, champagne, papa cores light, whatever. I get it.

Speaker 3 Bringing it all back. But then first round wild card teams, you get, all right, boom.
Now we're in the divisional round, pop champagne. Now we're in the ALCS.

Speaker 3 Too much? I'm not saying don't celebrate with your team, but like to bring the camera crew in, put the goggles on, do all that. I'm not saying don't do it.
It's a public event.

Speaker 3 And then when we get to the World Series, like, you know, when we pop champagne, it's like, all right, we've seen it five times already. Just asking, is it too much?

Speaker 2 Okay, I've had this conversation before.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay.

Speaker 2 So it's not no, but it came from a basketball player.

Speaker 1 Oh, all right.

Speaker 2 So I'll say, I'll say this, though. Having gone through it and won the World Series, it does not get old at all.

Speaker 2 It does not

Speaker 2 every single one. And then the World Series one was just like,

Speaker 2 that was the ultimate. Yeah, it just was a buildup.
God, that's so good. It was, yeah, the World Series one was, it was just no one's saying jobs not finished.

Speaker 3 No one's saying jobs not finished.

Speaker 2 So one of my family friends, Robert Ory, he

Speaker 2 brought this up to me. Wait, Robert Ori?

Speaker 1 Robert Orey. Oh my God.

Speaker 3 He's just subtly dropped that. You talking about big shot bombs?

Speaker 1 Yes. That's amazing.
What am I saying? seven rings right yeah he's got seven of them he brought it up to me he's like interesting he was like

Speaker 2 why do you why do you guys pop champagne after it why do you guys do this after every round like great toggles and everything and and do this and i didn't have an answer for him i go i don't know man it's just the culture he's like yeah it's too much like it really is and i was like and i and i and i actually like kind of listened and i was like in my head like when it was the one game wild card right so it was a one game wild card so you would have a team like pop Champagne to get into that one-game wild card, and then Pop Champagne right after the wild card, and then Division Series.

Speaker 2 Right. And like, I get it.
You want, you celebrate after every, after every single one. Do I think you have a point where maybe we do it too?

Speaker 1 I got labeled the fun.

Speaker 3 I got labeled the fun police. That's what they're calling me on Twitter.

Speaker 1 Okay, fun police.

Speaker 2 You don't see it in any other sport, which I think is why in baseball, it just like it is what it is. It's part of it.
It's a long series and everything. You don't see it in

Speaker 2 the NBA. You don't see it in the NFL after that.
You see it after the big, after winning it all. Like I,

Speaker 2 you have a point where there is a lot of, it is, there is a lot of it. And I can't disagree.

Speaker 2 There's sometimes like, now when you get in there and you're in that moment, that never crosses my line at all. It is like,

Speaker 2 how much champagne can I spray on somebody else?

Speaker 3 I don't know like tons of MLB guys, but I know a few or I've like texted a few on the side and they were just like, look, you're right, but also got to remember, there's young guys who've never been there.

Speaker 3 There's old guys who've never been there. There's guys who might not ever get back there.
It's a long season. So you're also doing it it because of that.

Speaker 3 It's not just like, hey, we're going to be here every year. Let's.

Speaker 1 Yeah. There's the one awkward one that goes on.

Speaker 2 So there's a,

Speaker 2 I, I, I'm with that of, there's, there's not old guys

Speaker 2 or there's old guys that may not get back there. And I'm all for doing it when you clinch to get into playoffs.

Speaker 1 Of course. Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 And then when you go round by round, I, I can be like, you know,

Speaker 2 treat it like it is how we do any other series where like in LA, we'd get together, do a a little speech tequila shot everything yeah you want to have some beers hang out like i'm i'm all for doing it that way i like the one when you get in there's always the one awkward one that that that goes on where certain teams handle it differently where

Speaker 2 when you're trying to clinch the division right there's always the point where you get that postseason birth yeah oh and then it's like

Speaker 2 do we celebrate the postseason birth that's the thing certain teams do it differently but right you have do you celebrate the postseason birth or do you celebrate clinching the division?

Speaker 2 And so, like, LA, we didn't celebrate postseason birth. Like, cool, we're in the postseason, but we got to win the division.
We can celebrate that. Yeah, that's cool.

Speaker 2 And that was, that was the big thing. So, like, I've, I've enjoyed every single one of those that I've been a part of.
The World Series one hit different. Yeah.

Speaker 3 As long as it still hits different for you, then, all right, I forego my fun.

Speaker 2 I've had a conversation before.

Speaker 1 So, before we're going to let you go, Sue, man, but the last one quick thought and on is it honeycut, right is what was it who or honeywell honeywell guy's awesome awesome i think he gave the greatest postseason speech of all time that dude is awesome he is just awesome right um

Speaker 1 otani like

Speaker 1 i don't know what i'm just guy's a unicorn i just curious like what is it like in the clubhouse he hurts his shoulder are you guys like oh you know like well i think the story's been told of the the text he sent to the group of like

Speaker 2 it was i i don't remember what it was verbatim it was like you know in 2020 bellinger hurt his shoulder and he came back this year like it'll be me like i'll be fine and he and we we were all flying we were getting on the plane to fly to new york and just won the first two

Speaker 1 um

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 2 we were all supposed to we were all going to go out to dinner that night we knew he wasn't he wasn't going to be there but it was one of those like we knew show was going to be fine we didn't know how fine he was going to be right um

Speaker 2 but i mean day to day like he just show is show he's not like i don't mean that like he's he's he's, uh, like, showtime or anything. He just is like a, like, a, pretty much like a regular dude.

Speaker 2 He gets on the bus. Like,

Speaker 2 and I think he just gets on the bus, sits there, reads his comics, chills, like, hangs out, does, does what he does, reads his comics, sitting in his chair, goes about his business, goes about his work, got a smile on his face whenever you see him.

Speaker 1 Um,

Speaker 2 and isn't, he's not, he's just not big time at all.

Speaker 2 Like, we had a couple of instances where we're on a, whether it's a bus ride, like, to the stadium or leaving or we're leaving the stadium to go to the to the plane. And

Speaker 2 you know,

Speaker 2 you've got a hand, everybody's, there's certain guys that have their own seat on the bus.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 2 Yamamoto was one of the last guys on. This happened a couple of times.
And, you know, you've got guys offering up their seats, but and then he goes and sits next to next to Shohei.

Speaker 2 And Shohei doesn't, he's like,

Speaker 2 and Shohei's much bigger than

Speaker 2 he's just sitting on the inside or on the inside next to the window. And Yama's got the whole aisle and everything.

Speaker 2 And that's just like, for me, that depicts like who he is where he's just like, he does, he's just like, whatever. Like,

Speaker 2 it's not a big deal to him. You'd have a bunch of other guys with big egos that would do that.
And then it was also pretty cool to say that there was a billion dollars sitting in Texas right there.

Speaker 2 Dude, I like legitimately.

Speaker 1 Were you there when Reggie threw the first pitch? Were you on the team yet? No.

Speaker 3 He was super excited to meet you, Otani, right?

Speaker 1 Well, I don't, he had no idea.

Speaker 1 He had no, so I saw, so

Speaker 1 I tell this because I met him and I was like, I just, I became like a fanboy because I like, I was, so Reggie was throwing, it was right after he got his Heisman back.

Speaker 1 So he was throwing the first pitch for the Dodgers. I caught it in full catcher's gear.

Speaker 1 I was down in the clubhouse. So I, I, I got to know Mookie a little bit and some of those guys.
And I'm, I'm, I'm down there. And Walker had walked by me.
I'm full geared helmet, getting ready to,

Speaker 1 I'll show you the video after.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I'm talking to Mookie. He's like, he's like, dude, what the fuck you doing here? I said, I said, yo, I'm catching Reggie's first pitch out there.

Speaker 1 This was like five minutes before, you know, he's like, oh, I'm going to come watch that. And then Walker goes by.
And then Shohei just comes out of nowhere. He just walks up to me.
He goes like this.

Speaker 1 And I was like,

Speaker 1 I was like, literally out of nowhere. I was like, he had no clue who I was.

Speaker 1 But to your point, he was just like the nicest human being in that three seconds. And I looked at the camera.
I'm like, oh, Shoe Todd. It was like the coolest moment ever.

Speaker 1 And then I caught the, you know, out there lefty catching it. Did you catch it? Yeah, but Reggie threw

Speaker 1 the ball. No, he threw one.
It was high. Okay,

Speaker 3 that's another thing we maybe need to re-examine. We'll do that another episode.

Speaker 3 Celebrity first pitches. I don't know if we need it anymore.
I don't know if we need to see 50 Cent throw in 50 yards left.

Speaker 2 It shows how hard it is to just throw that ball over the plate. You guys can't do it.

Speaker 3 I did it one time in my life. Well, twice, but one time off the mound.
I did it once at Dodger Stadium, but I did it with the other entourage guys.

Speaker 3 So we couldn't go on the mound because there was four of us at the same time. That wasn't so bad because you had cover.

Speaker 3 I did it in Cleveland from the mound, and I don't think I've ever been as nervous in my life. And I literally said, They said, Hey, come back and do this again next year.

Speaker 1 I went, No,

Speaker 3 absolutely not. Why do I need this in my life?

Speaker 1 Well, your kids were there, too.

Speaker 3 That was the best part: the kids were there, but also not the best way to bring your kids to a first game.

Speaker 3 You should like because now they think that's like, yeah, oh, dad, why can't we run around center field? I'm like, because you're not allowed, dude.

Speaker 1 When I was catching, my kids were on the field with my wife, and that was their first game because they're like five and three.

Speaker 3 Yeah, mine too. Mine are five and three.

Speaker 1 And of course, my two of my kids are crying because they wanted to come see me and my wife josie's like this is literally on the field and i'm like did you like get it off and then my kids

Speaker 1 i'm like i'm like shit dude this is going to be terrible cameras everywhere but man well you're the we will not hit you up for tickets but very very happy for you that was an incredible run um

Speaker 1 i don't know if he means that but i do look i i'm not

Speaker 3 i accept loss as well i really do like i'm disappointed but i i there's no doubt about the fact that you guys are the better team it's just zero down it's not even zero down it was in close i i i'm just that's how i hey real quick

Speaker 1 you're a free agent i don't want to throw you on on the but dodgers man let's let's let's get something back we want you back we we need you back

Speaker 2 i love to hear that yeah i'd love to hear it okay that's it that's all you need to say

Speaker 1 appreciate you man coming absolutely

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Speaker 1 Jack,

Speaker 3 you guys are boys now.

Speaker 1 You get hit him up on tickets?

Speaker 1 I'm not, man.

Speaker 1 Trust me, I wanted to say, like, when I was in Arizona, Arizona, I used to get hit up for tickets, but by the way, I had to buy them. That's how cheap they were.
It came out of my paycheck.

Speaker 1 Yeah, dude, I was pissed. So I know what that's like.
I knew when he was describing that, I was like, I've been there. That's a great system he has, right?

Speaker 1 To just like, one, you allow other people to handle it for you, or you just set the boundary from day one. And if it works out, it works out.

Speaker 3 Well, I love that you had to buy your own tickets while it was the team you played for. That's money.
We're going to do some money moments now. It's Ty presented by our friends over at Cash App.

Speaker 3 Sending, spending, saving, splitting, tipping, donating, gifting, or just typing numbers or Matt buying tickets for the team that he played for. Whatever you want to do, that's money on Cash App.

Speaker 3 We're going to do our money moment. What's our money moment for the week? We're aligned on this one because this hits us in two different ways.

Speaker 1 Kyon Anthony.

Speaker 3 And Kyan Anthony going to Syracuse. What that will mean for Syracuse.
He's a good player. He was second choice from what they say was UFC.

Speaker 1 So I don't know if you're a little muscleman and Kyan would have been a good conversation i mean i think ufc was fighting uh carmelo and syracuse and his the building's named i mean it's yeah what is it andrew mellow the mellow center yeah you know listen happy for him i look i think it's a bigger conversation of just like like I'm living a little bit not to not to the status of Carmelo, and he's an all-time great, obviously

Speaker 1 Bronny's living it with his dad on the same team, which is like, like, it's just one, I'd say this, like, I always try to put myself in my son's shoes and his headspace and what that must feel like.

Speaker 1 So for Kayen, too, like, put yourself, your dad is Carmelo Anthony.

Speaker 1 Your dad won a national championship for Syracuse, one and done, and gone, like, changed the course of them, you know, like whatever.

Speaker 1 And one of the best NBA players of all time, like, like a lot of these kids, man, like my son is, is like, they're strong mentally.

Speaker 1 I think they understand like, like, it's their path and it's their journey.

Speaker 1 And I would credit Carmelo because I'm sure I don't know him that well, but but I'm sure he's a great dad and he's obviously had a big impact in his son's life and hoops and all that.

Speaker 1 But for his son to go there and go to Syracuse and follow his dad's footsteps,

Speaker 1 that's amazing, man. It's a great story.
And like whether he becomes whatever that like does, that's really cool. You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 It's a major accomplishment. And I always knew this day would come for me as, you know, now I'm starting to watch.

Speaker 3 the kids of the players I idolized what that I watched as like and I was even like a year older once I became older than every player in the NBA when Vince Carter retired, I was officially older than every player in the NBA.

Speaker 3 I knew I'm going to start seeing the kids.

Speaker 1 The next generation.

Speaker 3 Funny thing about Kayan, like I don't know him well, but I worked with his mom, with Lala on power, on Think Like a Man. So I would go to a Knicks game.

Speaker 3 And this is when Mello was on the team. And then Kyan, who I was at that time taller than, because he was a kid, would run up and be like, my mom says hello.
She's sitting over there.

Speaker 1 And then he'd run back over. That's dope.

Speaker 3 First of all, I'm like, that's so cool. Like, this is kind of like your house.
Your dad's playing on the Knicks. And then I would see Lala over there.
And he was shorter than me.

Speaker 3 And now he's developed into this really good player. And I think this, we even heard with like Dion and Shador.

Speaker 3 And I don't know, it's all rumors with the Cowboys and stuff, but we're starting to see the father-son stuff.

Speaker 1 And by the way, bigger wave. We're going to see more because

Speaker 1 my oldest is 18 and he was on this club circuit of hoops.

Speaker 1 We were, you know, six, seven years ago. We're talking about it with Jack, you know, with the Kobe story and stuff.
And it's like the next wave is Gilbert Arenas' kid. Right.
He's a ball.

Speaker 1 The next wave is Trevor Ariza's kid, who is an absolute ball. We're going to see it.
Those kids are all like class of 26 or 25. Those kids are all going to be making their commitments.
They're coming.

Speaker 1 And like, Kyan, it's just like, like, to your point. I feel old, man.

Speaker 1 Honestly, I feel old too. When Cole committed, everyone was like, damn, I feel old.
That was it. I was like, you're right.

Speaker 1 We're getting to that age where now all this next generation of the stars that we watched, their kids, and there's more of them.

Speaker 1 You know, those are just kids on the West Coast, are all now entering college, which is wild.

Speaker 3 It's gonna be fun to watch. So, yeah, that's I guess that's what we leave.
I gotta say again, thank you, Jack Flarity. You are awesome today, Andrew, Rich, Adam, everybody.

Speaker 3 First real full episode in the studio, buddy.

Speaker 1 As Mark, you're gonna get me to move back here. By the way, as our colleague Mark Ingram would say, in the flesh, you're in the flesh.

Speaker 3 Thank you, Cash App. Thank you, Wendy's.
Let's go. Yes.