Big D stands for “Drama” with the Cowboys and Mike Tyson Looks to Turn Back the Clock vs Jake Paul

Speaker 1 You're offered a million dollars

Speaker 1 to be on the undercard of whatever a Jake Paul. Maybe two.
We'll give you two mil. You and Kevin Connolly, it's full go who's winning.

Speaker 2 Connolly and I have always been competitive with each other in a healthy way. If you came to us with that offer, we'd be like, Let's try to get it to like three million.

Speaker 2 If we try to get a little more money, I think one of us could knock out.

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Speaker 2 You know who else is money? My co-host, Matt Leiner, is money. I can't stop laughing right now.

Speaker 2 Those of you who are.

Speaker 1 The best part about our show is the pre-show.

Speaker 2 Yes. We have a good show.
We have a good show for you today. Okay.
We're going to definitely get into Jake Paul, Mike Tyson fight coming up this weekend.

Speaker 2 We're going to talk NFL, NBA, everything, but there's something we have to. All right, now, because I have to stop laughing.

Speaker 2 We have, we've been talking about this three-point shooting contest for a while now. You said on the earlier show, you outshot Caitlin Clark one round.
You took her down. Well,

Speaker 1 we tied. Right.
Which I'll take as a dub.

Speaker 2 And then I have this assumption about a lot of football players back in high school. Like, the football players were not good at basketball.
They were scary when they're defending you.

Speaker 1 I've seen players like that. I agree.

Speaker 1 I'm not that, but it's okay.

Speaker 2 You don't want the linebacker defending you in basketball because it could hurt, but also

Speaker 2 you were leaving them open at the three-point.

Speaker 1 I've played with football players who are on a fast-break layup and just chuck it off the backboard backboard with no, with no finesse. For sure.
But that's not my game.

Speaker 2 So you, before I even knew anything about you with basketball, you were bragging about what an awesome shooter you were. I jumped all over that because I know I'm a good shooter.

Speaker 2 And I thought this is a great opportunity to maybe beat Matt at something, being that you're a natural born athlete. And then I saw some videos of you.
And I've since shown videos of you shooting.

Speaker 2 I've sent it to a bunch of people who know ball. And your jumper checks out.
It checks. It's not really a jumper.

Speaker 1 It's more of a set shot, but I'll take it.

Speaker 2 I'll give you a half jumper. So, I mean, I went to the Lakers.
I went to the Lakers,

Speaker 2 who do they even play? Sixers, Lakers, Sixers game. The whole time I'm with my manager, Lev, the whole time we're analyzing the over-under, like who's going to hit more.

Speaker 2 So we're doing five racks, five shots apiece. So there's 25 points out there to get.

Speaker 2 This is where it gets funny. Before we do the show, Matt has taken on this heel persona.
He is so confident. He's looking at me like

Speaker 2 I'm a peon. Like I'm not even worthy of the business.
Can I just speak for one second?

Speaker 1 First of all,

Speaker 1 I sent you videos of me shooting. Great job.

Speaker 1 I also played in the Drew League, which is the premier

Speaker 1 basketball league that where all the pros play.

Speaker 1 And again, I was one and done and I had success, a couple threes in that. I'm very confident in my shooting ability.
And I was a little bit like, man, Jerry, man, he's, you know, 5'7.

Speaker 1 He was, you know, back in his day.

Speaker 1 He was a little overweight back in his prime. He's now, now you look great.
You look great. And then you send these celebrity all-star basketball games where you're just like, you're running point.

Speaker 1 And you're running point. You're telling guys to get off, sit down.
Like you're, you're, I mean, you're fully invested. By the way, mad respect.
I love that.

Speaker 1 I'm actually jealous because I've never gotten to play in one of those games. But that doesn't translate to me in an open college.
We're going to do this at USC shows.

Speaker 2 Yes, reveal it.

Speaker 1 College arena,

Speaker 1 probably in front of the men's basketball team.

Speaker 2 Coaches.

Speaker 1 A little, just a little, there's going to be a little bit of pressure. And I know, you know, I know you say you like pressure.
Your little name's pressure. You love it.
It's okay. This is different.

Speaker 1 This is different. You've never shot against a professional athlete.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 1 Maybe, maybe in a TV show, but not when the stakes are. And by the way, if we're betting on this, we might as well throw a little money in on this too.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 I don't know. Here's why I was laughing.

Speaker 2 Where are we going?

Speaker 2 Here's why I'm laughing. I was coming into the show because I figured out what I want if I win.
I figured it out. I'm going to use one of your old takes against you again, this jerseys thing.

Speaker 2 Now, I know you want to embarrass me and make me wear a six or six. I'm going to go.
I'm going to take it one step further.

Speaker 2 If I defeat you as a heavy underdog, and maybe we got to get John Ewing from Bet MGM to get it, give us some shooting odds. What are the actual betting odds?

Speaker 2 I know what I want. I want you.
You are going to wear my high school jersey with my name on the back. I'm going to make it up for you because I know you're 6'5 ⁇ .
You ain't 5'7.

Speaker 2 You have to walk around for a full Manhattan Beach day or wherever you are.

Speaker 2 Maybe even like, maybe even like your last day on set of big noon, you have to walk around with my high school jersey, number 15, with Ferrara on your back.

Speaker 2 That's what I want. Bro,

Speaker 1 it's going to be skin tight on me.

Speaker 2 No, no, no. I'm going to make one for you.

Speaker 2 I'll make one for you. I'll spend the money.

Speaker 2 I don't want you to look stupid.

Speaker 1 If I lose, if you want me to wear that to a big noon

Speaker 1 taping,

Speaker 1 you know, obviously.

Speaker 2 If you didn't look so good in the suits, I'd make you wear it on the show, but I don't want you to look like this. So

Speaker 1 if I win, we're wearing, what are we doing? We're wearing a Sixers jersey courtside to a Knicks game?

Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 2 here's the thing. They won't let me in the building if I do that.

Speaker 2 I would be down because I pay my bets, but I could assure you the people at Madison Square Garden, if they were going to have me sit courtside, they would not, I don't think they're letting me in the building sitting courtside for free wearing a Sixers.

Speaker 2 It's not going to happen. But I'm happy to do another version.

Speaker 1 We're going to post this. We need everybody to weigh in on this.
And one

Speaker 1 time.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Who do you think is going to win?

Speaker 1 I mean, we could, we're going to post, listen i'm going to go get shots up today after this uh i i i i play horse almost daily at the gym i just i'm always shooting and so honestly i'm putting even more pressure on myself because i am talking a big game i just feel that confident i feel that confident you're you did the last the last triple h the last shooting competition i had was against the greatest female shooter of all time all time And I took her to the very last, took her to the very last rack.

Speaker 2 And what was your number? So we have 25 shots.

Speaker 1 she was sweating my girl caitlin was sweating one day we're gonna get her on this pod and one day she's gonna respond to this okay she's

Speaker 2 the first question caitlin were you really worried that you were gonna lose she was trust me she was she nailed four out of five in the last rack to tie and she was like okay i give you props i give you props all right well think about what you want that's gonna be a fun day either way we get to go to usc this is when having your your co-host being a legendary usc football player we get to use the usc that is something that a lot of other podcasts don't get to do.

Speaker 1 So I think it's going to be fun, man. It's going to be fun.
It's going to be a fun day. We're talking a lot of Smack.
It's going to be cool to do some stuff and get you out here, bro.

Speaker 1 Get you out to LA.

Speaker 2 All right. There's a few things.
So yeah, Jake Paul, Mike Tyson coming up later. The Throwback 3 that we've been doing.

Speaker 2 We've been doing Throwback Threes now for a few weeks, trying it out as a segment. And little by little, the reaction on social has been getting better and better.

Speaker 2 And again, follow us on social at throwback show. We interact with you.
We will respond to you. Last week's fictional athlete, which was your call, fictional athlete, gone over big.

Speaker 2 This week, I think we actually should tell the listeners now and ahead of time what we're going to do. You ready?

Speaker 2 It's

Speaker 2 my week to choose. We are going to do greatest sporting events you wish you could have been at.
So you can go through a historical time period. You can make it your favorite team.

Speaker 2 You can get a little wild on the sports.

Speaker 2 If you want to throw some WWE stuff in there, whatever you want, you're going to have great seats to one of the greatest sporting events in the history that's our throwback three this week i love it i i did a i did a little deep dive on this so there there's a lot of there's a lot of uh options out there um

Speaker 1 i think this is i think it's fascinating i think it's fast as a sports fan there's it just it depends on which way you want to go but my goodness and my number one my number one is fire i think it's gonna be it's good yeah uh you know what i want to ask you so now i'm at the part of the show after after I watch a weekend full of sports.

Speaker 2 I have my things like, I cannot wait to talk to Matt about it. Here's a question for you.

Speaker 2 Go back to your playing days for a minute, whether it's your rookie year, second year, whatever.

Speaker 2 Would you have had a podcast? I know you have one now. You're a former player.
If you're playing in today's, if you're playing in today's, you couldn't have done it back then.

Speaker 2 If you're playing in today's NFL, Matt Leinert,

Speaker 2 on the Arizona Cardinals, take out Kyler. You're on that team.
You're 22 years old. Do you have a podcast?

Speaker 1 I don't think so. One, because it just

Speaker 2 up until I met you, Jerry.

Speaker 2 It took you this long. Yeah, it took me that long.

Speaker 1 I think just as a quarterback, it's different. You know, I can't even, I don't even know who has a podcast in this day and age as a quarterback out there.

Speaker 1 I mean, obviously Rodgers goes on every week to McAfee and you have things like that, like guest hits, but

Speaker 1 there's just too much going on for a quarterback to, especially, could you imagine if you're losing and you're not having success and like you're just going to get ripped apart?

Speaker 1 Oh, this guy does a podcast too. It's different when you're Micah Parsons or it's different when you're Amon Ross.
That's what I talk about.

Speaker 1 Amon Ross St. Brown has his.
Like, there's a lot of guys that do that, or they stream, or they do all these types of things.

Speaker 1 But as a quarterback, like you better be, you better be like 10 years in, one three Super Bowls, doing whatever the hell you want on the side. And it's just not worth it.
It's not worth it.

Speaker 1 So the answer would be no.

Speaker 2 That's a, you know, this question came to me over the weekend. And that's a great way to sum it up.

Speaker 1 Well, it's also, sorry, but you also like, you're just opening yourself up for just absolute, like a disaster. You can't do it.
You just can't.

Speaker 2 You can't do it. There's too much.

Speaker 2 Now I'm trying to think, who's going to be the first quarterback to have their own podcast?

Speaker 1 Okay, so there's quarterbacks in college that are doing it, like. NIL stuff and that kind of stuff.
And

Speaker 2 it's a little different because they're kids and most of these guys aren't probably going to make the nfl anyway so there's a little bit different there of like trying to like build a voice and and build a brand um there's nothing to gain if you're jaden daniels and you're like you know what i finally want to launch my media company and my podcast a like you said he has too much to do with the quarterback position but b yeah right now it's great that jaden daniels toast of the nfl what does he have to gain from having a podcast and that sums up the quarterback position that i think in the nfl right there.

Speaker 2 That's why I don't have that. Absolutely nothing.

Speaker 2 Well, Micah Parsons, who I watch his stuff. I think he's a really good interview.
I think it's interesting. I do love the athlete podcast.
I think it's fun, especially when they dig in on a team.

Speaker 2 Like Draymond sometimes will dig in on a team and you're getting insight that we all think

Speaker 2 we're not. We don't have that brain.
But, you know, Parsons with taking a shot at Mike McCarthy, he was kind of walking it back on the show.

Speaker 2 Do you think he made things worse by going on the podcast and explaining and defending why he did it and saying it was taken out of context? Like we all saw it.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Look, I think he obviously was backtracking. And this is just the

Speaker 1 bigger issue there is when players have a platform and they're on their pod every week or they're in the media and you're, and you're, and you're, and honestly, you're a Dallas Cowboy, which is there's more pressure than anybody being a Dallas Cowboy, whether they're good or not.

Speaker 1 All eyes are always on them. Like you have to, you have to be very careful with what you say in the sense of like

Speaker 1 locker rooms imploding. And like that's what I, the, the Micah Parsons thing, like, first of all, I thought about this.
Mike McCarthy is what he's a dead man walking, right?

Speaker 1 That was kind of like the quote. Like, he's probably going to be gone regardless.
But that coach, and normally I would side with the player, but that coach has taken every stray for the team.

Speaker 1 He's, he's manned up to how they've played, whether it's offense or defense. He's taken accountability, and it is what it is.
He's a professional.

Speaker 1 Mike McCarthy, whether you think he's a good coach or not or whatever, he's a professional and he's handled it extremely well.

Speaker 1 That goes, and these are grown men. So that, to me, I respect.
Now, when a player comes out

Speaker 1 and just starts... pointing the finger and starts throwing guys under the bus, like it's a, it's just a sign of something bigger there.

Speaker 1 And I've been in locker rooms where you start to finger point a little bit. And I'll tell you what, Jerry,

Speaker 1 it's not good. Like that, that team is about to get blown up.
And,

Speaker 1 you know, next is going to be, you know, Dak is out for the year. And like, next, it's going to start, you're going to start seeing players point the finger at Dak.

Speaker 1 And then now players are going to, Micah Parsons become somewhat of a target, even though he's a great player, right? Like you're a great player. You can kind of get away with everything.

Speaker 1 Like, like it doesn't work that way. So

Speaker 1 it's interesting what's happening over there with the Cowboys. And

Speaker 1 I think Micah Parsons was in the wrong on that for sure.

Speaker 1 You know, you take accountability. You can be frustrated with coaching.
You can be frustrated with players, but there's a way to handle that.

Speaker 1 We always just said, we always said like in meetings, like, hey, you handle shit within the walls of this locker room.

Speaker 1 If you got a problem, you go talk to that person and you handle it that way because the minute you start opening this up to public and to the media, it is a, it's a feeding frenzy.

Speaker 1 And that's what it is right now.

Speaker 2 And I guess I can't say I dislike you disagree with what he said. So it's a tricky thing.
I thought, too, on the pod, he was trying to validate a little bit what he said.

Speaker 2 Like, it's above my pay grade. We know you don't make the decisions on the coach.

Speaker 1 But him saying that does nothing but

Speaker 1 jeopardize the locker room and the team. It does nothing but

Speaker 1 have people like us immediately talking about it in a negative light. It just doesn't do anything.
There's nothing positive.

Speaker 2 I've had in my career the opportunity a handful of times to

Speaker 2 tell someone how I really felt without giving like the media trained answer about

Speaker 2 I'm not gonna put a name on it, but someone I co-starred with.

Speaker 1 And I know

Speaker 2 I always took the, yeah, it's all it's all good because my thought was, even though what I would say would be true, and I'm allowed to say the truth,

Speaker 2 the amount that I would have to deal with it after, nothing good is going to come of it. And we're all under contract.
We're all here. Now, actors don't get traded or cut.

Speaker 1 well they do get fired but and it could have got me fired you never know but i just don't and it's like a discipline thing i i never took that bait if i wanted to yeah it's the it's the problem when when you're again it's the cowboys and when you and again like to your point kind of like with these podcasts and like social media like it's given i think

Speaker 1 the positive it's given players a platform i like the draymon like the in-season pod like like reacting things i think is fascinating because it takes just fans into like wow, that's really what's happening.

Speaker 1 Not just pundits on TV thinking what's happening. Like, this is real life, like real time.

Speaker 1 And I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 And I like that about Mike, and he's outspoken, but the minute you start opening up that can of worms and you start to finger point and blame others, man, I'm telling you what, even if it's a head coach or not, it's, it's a recipe for disaster.

Speaker 1 And that's, it's a, it's a culture thing for the Cowboys. And

Speaker 1 you can start at the top. You can, you can, you can pinpoint whoever you want.
I think there's a lot of people to blame.

Speaker 1 But that's the problem, man. When you start doing that, again, I go by, I go by, we're all professionals.
You're professional, right? You handle that.

Speaker 1 You're co-star professionally because you understand if you did handle it a different way, the consequences, maybe, maybe you make a shitty show or maybe like it just

Speaker 1 affects the chemistry on a set, right? Same thing in a locker room. Like you handle that stuff in between those walls.
If you got a problem with a dude, I've been in those conversations.

Speaker 1 Like you got a problem with the receiver, you got a problem, like you handle and you work it out. And if you, and if you can't work it out, okay, you're still making your money.

Speaker 1 You still go to work every day and do the best you can. But if you do work it out, that only helps.
And man, I'll tell you what, dude, that locker room is a disaster.

Speaker 2 Well, let's go to another, let's go to another locker room for a second. Same rules apply for Debo and the

Speaker 2 pushing, whatever you want to call it with the long snapper and the kicker. So is that something that had that happened in in the locker room, we probably would have never known.

Speaker 2 We would have heard, oh, Debo was pissed. Can you come back from that? How bad is that for a locker room? Or is that something like, hey, we're dudes, we're fighting.
That's something that's

Speaker 2 sorry. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's something different in my opinion.

Speaker 1 I've been on teams where there's been, you know, how many times have we seen like, I mean, I use T.O., who I love, but T.O. as an example, like fighting with a coach, right?

Speaker 1 Like, or, you know, fighting with a McNab back in the day. Like, like, you've seen all that.

Speaker 1 And then a lot of guys, most of the time, you go in the locker room, you hash it out, and you can apologize, you hash it out and you move on because it's just what you do.

Speaker 1 To me, that one, and I think Debo came out and basically said like his emotions got the best of him.

Speaker 1 If I'm a, if I'm a betting man, I guarantee they hash that out in the locker room. I guarantee there's no hard feelings.
The frustrate, the frustration came out. You missed the field goals.

Speaker 1 You did like, yeah. And

Speaker 1 San Francisco is sort of that team right now that's like, they're not playing playing probably to their potential.

Speaker 2 Yeah, we're waiting.

Speaker 2 Yeah, we're waiting.

Speaker 1 McCaffrey's back and we'll see. And something tells me they're probably going to make a run.
But to me, I don't have a problem with that. Again, you try to keep your emotions in check.

Speaker 1 You handle that stuff in the locker room. But if you handle it afterward, you move on, right? And we haven't seen anything from that since.
So my guess is, you know, it was handled the right way.

Speaker 1 So emotions are part of the game, man. Like emotions, frustrations on the sideline,

Speaker 1 especially like, you know, especially kicking.

Speaker 1 I've been a part of games where you miss field goals and back-to-back games and you had channel, you know, you just get, you get pissed, and I get that, but

Speaker 1 Debo, I'm sure, handled it the right way. So,

Speaker 2 but yeah, last thing I was thinking about in terms of NFL and things I wanted to ask you, and I got, I got into this conversation with someone in my life on the acting level,

Speaker 2 Daniel Jones, and we know, okay, that's been exhausted. He's done.

Speaker 2 We get it. And I know there's all sorts of stuff now with his injury clause and when he'd have to be, if he gets hurt, he gets paid whatever skipping all that

Speaker 2 is it crazy to think

Speaker 2 going back to daniel jones and his contract and knowing hey look i had a really good year we made the playoffs i'm finally healthy saquan's amazing my number one receiver was isaiah hodgins this is two years ago no offense to isaiah hodgins they had a great year i got my coach seems dialed in we have chemistry

Speaker 2 i know the edict is always make it make the money Is there any world where Daniel Jones could have sat back? His agent would have hated, and all agents probably hate me for even saying this out loud.

Speaker 2 You know what? I want the 45, whatever, 48 million,

Speaker 2 but maybe if I take 40, 38, maybe we'll have a little more left over to sign Saquon or a better left tackle.

Speaker 2 And maybe that'll lead to me playing better because I probably need more help than most good quarterbacks. And maybe that gives me longevity.
Maybe that keeps me on prime time.

Speaker 2 Maybe that helps me win some more games. Or with football, different than basketball because you are risking life and limb in so many ways.
Get it while you can get it.

Speaker 2 Don't even let that other stuff fall where it may.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I agree with you. And Tom Brady is a perfect example.

Speaker 1 I mean, he took a pay cut every year and they were able to get guys every year, you know, guys like Randy Moss and over the, over the, over the, the, the course of his career there.

Speaker 1 Now he had already won a Super Bowl early on in his career.

Speaker 1 But that's a perfect example.

Speaker 1 Here's my take on this is,

Speaker 1 and again, I come from the side of get your money while you can because you never know when the last play is. And we always talk about guaranteed contracts and all that and the lack of guaranteed.

Speaker 1 Now, the guaranteed money nowadays, obviously, is through the roof.

Speaker 1 But it doesn't mean you're guaranteed like, you know,

Speaker 1 like if you sign five years, $100 million, right? Or four years, $100 $100 million, making $25 million a year with $40 million guaranteed. Okay.
You're hitting, you're hitting that guaranteed number.

Speaker 1 But if you get hurt year one or something happens, you're not getting the rest of that money on your contract. You're not, you're not even close to hitting 100 million.
It just doesn't work that way.

Speaker 1 It's not like baseball. It's not like basketball.

Speaker 1 So the mindset of that is always get the, get, get as much money as you can up front. get as much money as you can up front.

Speaker 1 And then, you know, you go out and you play and you try to get to that second contract.

Speaker 1 that was always the big deal and football is like play through your like brock purdy is about to hit right whatever it is right and he's on a rookie deal get to that second contract example you'd be a pay cut candidate yeah but he's still on a rookie deal though so right i'm saying when he makes his deal i won't call pay cut like making your deal like taking a little less to know hey we got debo we got kittle we got mccaffrey like how do we afford all these guys i i listen i we gotta have i would love to have somebody on and talk because like it's just a different world like like you look at all these these running backs are a perfect example like yeah like they're undervalued for sure but you look at guys like I mean God I'm trying to think like not Jonathan Taylor

Speaker 1 Melvin Gordon held out a couple years back

Speaker 1 and like all these guys and they were getting offered like fifth like 10 but they wanted 15 and then look what happens like they got eight or nine or whatever it was and they're out of league tank you're out of the market tanked and you're out of league two years later for whatever circumstance so that's that's the point.

Speaker 1 It's like, get as much as you possibly can at the expense of getting what

Speaker 1 an average free agent receiver that may or may not make your team better. So I get what you're saying.
What's

Speaker 2 the 50 and 44? Like we're talking about the quarterback podcast thing, though, right? Like it's a little different for if Derrick Henry came out with a podcast,

Speaker 2 you would get it. And you wouldn't say like, oh, every win and loss is on Derrick Henry.
And if he loses, he better not want it. If Lamar had a podcast after every loss, it would be awful for him.

Speaker 2 So I guess my point is, I think you can only look at that theory for quarterbacks. You're right.
A running back, a receiver,

Speaker 2 everyone should get as much money. But if you're in this position, like, hey, maybe I got a five-year run here and we're a good team, we're not great.

Speaker 2 I just wonder, because of the market being so grand, like you said, 40, you know what? If I take 36 a year instead of 40 a year, hey, look, that adds up to be 12 million or leaving on the table.

Speaker 2 It's a lot of money. But after taxes and commissions and all that stuff to say, hey, I get to play with, you know, Saquon.

Speaker 1 After taxes and all of that. It's a lot.
And then you have a season-ending injury. Right.
And then all of a sudden that guy balls and then you're, then you're cut. You're out of the cut.

Speaker 1 So you get, you get, you get, you're out of a job and then you're like, there's both ways. I get what you're saying.
Like, to me, I'm just like, man, man 50 mil guaranteed as opposed to 45

Speaker 1 that 5 million at the end of the day after taxes you're still taking home a whole hell of a lot of money that you're not that you're probably never going to spend maybe we can go get a dude and and again there's been people that have done that for sure i just and basketball you're seeing a lot i think when you're someone like daniel jones though when you're not You're not in the Tom Brady position, you're not in an Aaron Rodgers position, you're not in a position where you've just solidified yourself as a Hall of Famer or

Speaker 1 year in and year out. Daniel Jones hasn't done that.
So Daniel Jones, I feel like, has been fighting for his job every single year. It's true.
Right. You know, so like,

Speaker 1 it's a totally different mindset where they're like, dude, you got to get paid. Get your money.
Get your money. Cause by the way, he's probably not going to be a giant next year.
So,

Speaker 2 yeah. Well,

Speaker 1 there's a couple of, it's fascinating, though. It is.

Speaker 2 There's a couple of legendary Hollywood stories. And again, it's different because we're not risking.
I always put that disclaimer, we're not risking anything physically.

Speaker 2 And I think it might have been the movie The Other Guys with Will, Farrell, and Wahlberg, right?

Speaker 2 I don't know if those guys don't take massive pay cuts that they could have gotten doing any of their pick from any movie they want, and they could go make any movie they want.

Speaker 2 I don't know if the other guys, A, gets made

Speaker 2 or B, if they would have been able to make it with each other without doing that. Well, I guess Will could have maybe held out and said, no, I want 10.

Speaker 2 But we can't afford marks, so you got to bring in actor B or C, and maybe that movie's not as good.

Speaker 1 So they took pay cuts to be together?

Speaker 2 I think I don't have confirmation.

Speaker 2 Legend has it. To make that movie, everyone had to come together and say, this is what we have.

Speaker 1 But again, again,

Speaker 1 you have two of the most

Speaker 1 two solidified

Speaker 1 actors that have their dough that have been doing it for 20 plus years, you know? And like, so like, I think when you get to that, and you would know better than me, I'd be curious.

Speaker 1 Like, when you get to that point, you're just like, hey, we love this script. This is funny.

Speaker 1 Oh, I get a chance to work with Will I get a chance like right let's go do it and it's only three months of your life three to six months of your life yeah I mean look I yeah I mean I get yeah I mean it'd be fascinating to hear your take on just that like turning like if you're if you're an up-and-coming actor or like you know you're working but you're not making you're this and that and like but you get a chance to work with an a-list actor but you're literally making peanuts like do you that's been

Speaker 2 every movie i have really done like television i always got paid really well but movies because there's such there used to be a big differentiator between television and movies, like almost a new career.

Speaker 2 Oh, you're going to be in a movie. We have to start your, your rate over again because we can't use your TV version.
But there is a similarity with actors where, yeah, you're on fire right now.

Speaker 2 You're making money right now, but in two years, that could be gone. Right.

Speaker 2 Talking about you might not be able to earn money as an actor or in the entertainment business for like five years while you reset. So there is that threat to it.

Speaker 1 So Lone Survivor, right? You run lone survivor oh yeah i so scale minimum yeah i mean you were a minimum character right so those those guys so those five or six guys are all making a lot a lot

Speaker 1 of the budget but again and you go and you go into that and you're like hey we have this small role for you here's like you don't even you'll be like i'm i'm gonna do it because I'm in a great movie I'm on a one-year vet minimum.

Speaker 2 I'm on a one-year vet minimum. And if I'm good in the movie, maybe that leads me to another contract.
But I'm on a one-year vet minimum. So it's, it's interesting.

Speaker 1 But those, those entourage episodes pay well, I'm sure.

Speaker 2 And you know what? All of us,

Speaker 2 it's, it's, you know, favored nation. All of us were paid the same.
We negotiated the same, which obviously will never happen in sports, but it's a very, very powerful thing to stick together.

Speaker 2 And the legendary story is friends.

Speaker 1 All those

Speaker 1 episodes.

Speaker 2 I feel like David Schwimmer could have maybe gotten paid out the gate more than everyone. I could be, I don't know if this is factual,

Speaker 2 but they all pulled together and said, no, no, we do this together because it doesn't work without the six of us. And then they, they crush.

Speaker 2 Absolutely. Thought I read something where they still see like 10 or 20 million a year in residuals.

Speaker 1 I was going to say, it's ridiculous. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Somewhere friends is on right now. So we're going to, we got to talk about residuals with entourage, right?

Speaker 1 Coming back to all the streaming services, right?

Speaker 2 Well, the entourage movie is on Netflix right now.

Speaker 2 I don't know if the show, I know there's been a big calling for it, and Netflix has been licensing a lot of Warner Brother HBO stuff, ballers, shout-outs, was just on there.

Speaker 2 You would have been perfect for ballers, too, by the way.

Speaker 1 You would have been. I think I was almost.

Speaker 2 I think I was. You should have been.

Speaker 1 Because Guillo, our boy Glazer, was on it a lot. I think they're my.

Speaker 2 Glazed and Confused was this show on this show.

Speaker 1 I would have loved to be on Entourage, man. Shit.
That would have been, that would have been sick.

Speaker 2 Do I have permission real quick to talk about a basketball thing?

Speaker 2 I know you're locked into basketball, but you're not psycho-locked.

Speaker 1 As long as it's not about the Knicks.

Speaker 2 It's not about the Knicks, actually. It's not.

Speaker 2 Giannis,

Speaker 2 a lot of talking heads have been saying, oh, it's not working out in Milwaukee. They're saying Giannis is going to ask out forever.
So our friend of the show, there is a Knicks reference really quick.

Speaker 2 Our friend of the show, Max Greenfield, who was just on a few weeks ago, he went to the Knicks game and got the full court side experience,

Speaker 2 full boat. And it was against the Bucs.
So I asked him to play body language guy. Give me a reference, like when you're watching Giannis, because now they're like two and whatever.
It's looking bad.

Speaker 2 And here's what Max got back to me. He basically said, hold on, where is it? Okay, this is just like an actor who's two weeks into a movie, realizing this movie sucks and it's going to flop.

Speaker 2 And then he sent me this Matt Damon quote.

Speaker 2 Matt Damon once quoted, I came to consider that the definition of a professional actor is knowing you're in a turkey and going, okay, I got four more months of this. It's up at dawn.

Speaker 2 Siege on Hamburger Hill. I'm definitely going to die here, but I'm doing it.
Damon later said about his experience on the film, that's as shitty as you can feel creatively, I think.

Speaker 2 I hope I never have that feeling again. This is what Max is sending me.

Speaker 1 I want to know what movie that was with Matt Damon.

Speaker 2 I'll look it up.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but this is what Max. is sending me.
It's got to be over, right?

Speaker 1 Isn't it crazy how fast things turn? Like, when did they win a championship? Three years ago?

Speaker 2 Three years ago,

Speaker 2 the year after the bubble. So yeah, I guess it was three years ago, 20 or 30.

Speaker 1 Three years ago, they've been, I mean, Boston now, obviously, but like, they've been top one or two seeds in the Eastern Conference for years.

Speaker 1 And it just, and it just, and have a good team and then just completely have changed.

Speaker 1 And like, honestly, I just think being in Milwaukee, I think it's like one of those things where it's just like, I think it's just time to move on. Hey, he can

Speaker 1 come over to the West Coast.

Speaker 2 They have no outs. They've made because they were a championship team and they kept trying to just retool, not reboot, which is the right thing to do when you have a great player like Giannis.

Speaker 2 They have no draft capital left. The Damian Lillard, and I love Dame.
Dame's one of my favorite creatures. Which is crazy, right?

Speaker 2 But the worst part of that trade, besides now, not, you know, picks and all that, is the fact that

Speaker 2 Drew Holiday goes to Portland and then goes to the Celtics.

Speaker 2 So even if you still had a fighter's chance of winning, now you got to go through that guy in Boston.

Speaker 2 It's just bad. And I love Giannis.
He's one of my favorite players. Even like that Brown thing where Jalen Brown offered him, he gave the fake out handshake.
And Brown was super.

Speaker 2 And by the way, Brown, super serious, played it the right way. Don't show that

Speaker 2 you like Giannis, even if you do. He played it the right way.
But to me, Giannis is already fucking around. Yeah, dude.
He's over it.

Speaker 2 He's over it.

Speaker 1 He's over it. Man, that's going to be a long season in Milwaukee.

Speaker 2 It's going to start. All the where is he going to go? Who's going to, it's going to all start soon.
And I just, Giannis is one of our basketball treasures. So,

Speaker 2 you know, we want to see him in playoff games. And who knows? I'm not saying it's over, but it's rough.
And

Speaker 2 also, really quick, I just saw this too. And, you know, this is airing, so this will be a day old by the time you see it.

Speaker 2 But the Spurs just announced and Shams just announced that Greg Popovich, who's missed a lot of time, he suffered a mild stroke on November 2nd. He's expected to make a full recovery.

Speaker 2 Thankful and grateful for that. Timeline to return, not been determined.
So really quick, just.

Speaker 2 you know, wish Greg Popovich and his family the best. And it's good to hear that he's going to make a full recovery.
And again, we talk about treasures of the NBA.

Speaker 2 As far as coaches, Greg Popovich is a treasure of a coach. And I think he was just sticking around for Wemby, Wemby, you know, which he didn't have to.

Speaker 2 Greg Poppich could walk off into the sunset whenever he wants from coaching, and he's not. And you feel like it's because of Wemby.

Speaker 2 But either way, you hope he just makes, you know, going to make a full recovery, which is great. And hopefully we see him back on the court.
Yes. Pop.
It's time.

Speaker 2 It's time for one of my favorite parts of the show, our Wendy's Can't Get Enough Sauce moment of the week.

Speaker 2 This is where we highlight an athlete or a team or a player doing something on or off the court that we just can't get enough of, just like you can't get enough of Wendy's new saucy nugs.

Speaker 2 Matt, do you want to go first?

Speaker 1 I'll go first.

Speaker 2 Mine's a little more serious.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Wendy's right here. Yeah.
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Speaker 2 toast,

Speaker 1 shout out John Robinson, the legendary USC coach who just passed away this year. Yes.

Speaker 1 Can't get enough of what he meant to USC and really just football community. You know, I had a chance to get to know him over the years.

Speaker 1 And I said this on a show earlier, on an interview earlier this week of,

Speaker 1 you know, when I was at USC, we were at the peak, right? Prime and all that. But it was always the most important thing for us was always reiterated, everybody that comes before you, right?

Speaker 1 In the acting world, it's like, you know, the great actors before you, right, that represent who you are and who you want to be, whether it was players, whether it was coaches.

Speaker 1 And J-Rob, certainly him, John McKay, and USC were those coaches, right? Those coaches for Pete Carroll and all that. And he was around a little bit.
So

Speaker 1 just what he epitomized at USC, what he meant to USC.

Speaker 1 He had a great NFL career as well. So I just want to get a little shout out to Coach Robinson.

Speaker 1 Rest in peace. We're thinking of his family.
And you talk about Pap as a treasure. He was a treasure in the Trojan community.
So that is my can't get enough sauce of the week. J-Rob, we'll miss you.

Speaker 1 Cheers.

Speaker 2 Cheers.

Speaker 2 I don't want to follow that, but cheers.

Speaker 1 Yeah, sorry to bring it down a little bit. No, no.

Speaker 1 How to shout out the legend of Coach JR.

Speaker 2 No, no. So what do you got, man? What do you got?

Speaker 2 Okay, switching gears a little bit. I'm sorry to do this to you.
It does involve the Knicks. I'm sorry to do this to you.

Speaker 1 I mean, this is unbelievable.

Speaker 2 No, we should do a podcast.

Speaker 1 We could just do a pod on the Knicks every week. I actually

Speaker 1 watched a little bit of it.

Speaker 2 They played Philly.

Speaker 1 this week. I watched a little bit of that game.

Speaker 2 So you mean they destroyed Philly?

Speaker 1 I didn't watch the ending.

Speaker 1 Literally, now that I think of you, I turn it on for two minutes and I'm like, this is like game eight of an 80-game series, 80-game season, and watch the Knicks up 10-6 in the first quarter.

Speaker 2 My can't get enough sauce player of the week, I'm going to say, had a triple-double that game. But that's not why he's getting my sauce.

Speaker 1 Is it your boy?

Speaker 2 It's Josh Hart.

Speaker 1 Here's why.

Speaker 2 I love Josh Hart.

Speaker 1 Is he going to become a friend of the show?

Speaker 2 Josh Hart's fantastic. I went on the Roommates podcast not that long ago.
But here's why Josh Hart,

Speaker 2 for me, I can't get enough of.

Speaker 2 Someone, you know, Knicks Twitter is its own thing. Some Knicks fan tweeted a video from a game at the Garden.
It might have been that Bucks game from way high up in the stadium, right?

Speaker 2 And of course, Twitter being what it is,

Speaker 2 just people just frying this dude. Oh, your seats are so bad.
Do me a favor, grab the banner for me and pull it down. Like, just roasting this dude.
Oh, I love that.

Speaker 2 And the guy's like, it's unbelievable that Nick fans are roasting me because I have bad seats. Josh Hart swoops in, says, check your DMs.
Yeah. Swoops in this guy's DMs, blesses him with tickets.

Speaker 2 I don't think the guy's gone to the game yet, but now he's interacting with Josh Hart.

Speaker 2 And even sure enough, I think there was another woman who tweeted something like, I'm in town for one night with my husband. Whatever.
We've never been doing it. Check your DMs.

Speaker 2 Josh Hart out here like Santa claus dropping nicks tickets tis the season dms tis the season that is my kick and enough sauce moment of the week that's that's honey barbecue because it's a little sweet as well

Speaker 1 by the way it's so it's it's such a cool like josh hart seems like a great dude and like it's like you just like him right like no matter team he's one of those guys that just fits in every team that a lot of athletes i i just think athletes could do more of that because of the like it doesn't cost josh hart a thing and if it like like it's such a cool story that i'm glad that got picked up.

Speaker 1 And I'm glad you're hitting on that because, like, those fans might not be able to afford anything more. Like, and again, I always look at this.
I look at this.

Speaker 1 Like, we went to one game a year growing up because we couldn't, you know, we couldn't afford it. It was either a Dodger game, a hockey game, whatever.

Speaker 1 And it was like nosebleeds, but it was like going to Disneyland once a year. It's like, this is it.
This is our Super Bowl. And you appreciated that.

Speaker 1 So the fact that he can do that for this family or whoever and probably damn near close to courtside or the fan, like, like, that's just

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Speaker 2 I tried hard to maybe not focus on this. I did not know how I'd feel about this Jake Paul and Mike Tyson fight.
It's been scheduled for a while.

Speaker 2 It was postponed, as we know, because of some health issues for Tyson. The whole time, I've been saying, there's no way I'm really going to watch this.

Speaker 2 I'll just check out highlights on Twitter and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 As it's loomed closer, Matt, I'm in. I'm in on the fight.
I'm so curious. What is there any parts of you that want to watch or are curious? And then we'll get into what we think might happen.

Speaker 1 I'm watching on the road. I'll be in Colorado this weekend, so I'm watching on the road.

Speaker 1 This is what Jake Paul does. You know, he allure, he's entered, he's a professional entertainer.
And

Speaker 1 his way about whether you like him or not his personality like he kind of he just pulls you in and also like he's a good boxer like he's a good athlete like he like like again we could we could say like oh fight real people this and that but like the dude trains his ass off he works hard like you want to see it and also like this is iron mike tyson i i don't care if he's 55 or in his prime like How do you not want to, he's going to come out with the black shorts, going to come out with his old school black shorts, the tatted face like it's going to it's like i'm getting goosebumps just thinking about it i hope we get a good fight i hope we don't get some bs that we're have you checked out probably going to happen have you checked out any of the netflix like countdown documentary yeah i watched so i watched a little bit of it um yeah it's good it's interesting they say they sell it well well yeah i mean they're salesmen i mean this is what they do this is boxing and and

Speaker 2 Yeah, I'm fascinated. Honestly, I'm fascinated.

Speaker 1 The part of me wants to just like, like be a kid and just lay on the couch and watch it. Like, man, this is going to be a great fight.
Like, this is going to be an awesome fight. Tyson's back.

Speaker 1 It's Jake Paul, whatever.

Speaker 2 Like, everybody.

Speaker 1 Everybody wants to see him beat the shit out of Jake Paul. And then part of me is like, all right, well, they're getting paid 10 mil.

Speaker 1 Like, this is going to be, I want, okay, hey, I'm going to, we're going to end

Speaker 1 the third, we're going to end this in the third round or pillow fight. Yeah.
I mean, well, I don't know. What, I mean, your thought.

Speaker 2 I mean, you're excited? Thoughts. Lots of thoughts.

Speaker 2 And it didn't surface till about a week ago that I just started watching some of the coverage, watching some of the press conferences, checking out the training videos, and then I started Netflix doc.

Speaker 2 Whatever you want to think about Jake Paul, whether you like or hate him as a YouTuber, you like or hate him as a boxer, this is not just some content.

Speaker 2 It's boxing. You're not saying, hey, I bet you I could beat Michael Jordan in one-on-one.
And you're going to put it on pay-per-view.

Speaker 2 We're going to watch Jake Paul and 60-year-old Mike, and Michael Jordan would smoke them. But anyway, you are boxing.
There is still always a chance that you could get hurt.

Speaker 2 And Mike Tyson is the one guy I would say, you know who might forget that we had an arrangement. I was about to say he's a little bit of a wild card.

Speaker 2 And I'm not saying they do. They definitely, let's assume they don't have an arrangement, which I don't believe in my heart they do, to make it a pillow fight.
Even if they did.

Speaker 2 That's probably the one guy from boxing's past that I would not feel totally comfortable going into it. Like, he's not really going to hit me.

Speaker 1 So you think Tyson's going into this fight to

Speaker 1 like to beat this?

Speaker 1 It's a sanctioned fight, goes on his record. I don't think Tyson cares about that at this point.

Speaker 2 I think a couple of things that I've, I feel like I've picked up on the point of view of Mike Tyson. Number one,

Speaker 2 the dude is just a warrior. If you go back to him on Joe Rogan, when I think he was promoting the Roy Jones Jr.
fight, and he's in way better shape now than he was even two, three years ago for that.

Speaker 2 And the whole time on Rogan, he's just, yeah, you know, he's just talking, sweating, like he's living the fight while just doing an interview

Speaker 2 with Rogan.

Speaker 2 Matt, if I were to tell you, you know what, Matt, I'm going to give you eight months to train, to study the Kansas City Chiefs playbook, and you are going to get to play with all those weapons in one game.

Speaker 2 You're going to get, we're going to give you one more game and your health is going to be there. You're not like, that's basically what this could, he's got to be going into the business.

Speaker 1 He's getting paid 10 stacks.

Speaker 2 And you're getting paid 10 million or whatever he's getting paid.

Speaker 2 I think for sure he's taking it real and you're being in a sport that you could get really hurt.

Speaker 1 You would over prepare and get ready. I hope so.

Speaker 1 The thing is, is I don't know how long he's going to last, right? So like you got to think if he's taking

Speaker 1 this dude is coming out, just getting inside like he does and just going just aggro on his ass for three rounds. I don't think we're going to get much past that.

Speaker 1 Mike, I don't care how good of shape he thinks he's in. And this is my, and trust me, I'm rooting for Mike.

Speaker 1 60 years old. And like, Jake Paul's, I mean, Jake Paul's, Jake Paul's a big dude, and Jake Paul trains hard.
Like, Jake Paul is like, like, he, he's proven that he can go eight, 10 rounds, obviously.

Speaker 1 Now, can he take a punch for my or Mike? I don't know, man. That's why I think it's fascinating.
And again, this is why they just roped you in. They roped you in.
They roped me in.

Speaker 1 So you think Tyson is going in and saying,

Speaker 1 like, and there's also part of me that like we all know like tyson's a actually like a really like soft-spoken kind of like yes kind like like like weirdly like a kind-hearted like almost like just polar ops that the minute he steps in the ring he's a killer right that's what he that's what he defined like it dude he's like what's he have to prove left you know nothing it's entertainment that's the only worry i have i don't know he keeps pulling me in because even the clip of a few this is from like a year or two ago maybe longer he's just doing it might have been his own podcast tyson Tyson.

Speaker 2 He's like, you know, now I'm like a nice guy. I'm paraphrasing.
I walk around, but every now and then I just get so frustrated because I can't like fight anymore. I just feel like a bitch.

Speaker 2 It's just, he goes to places.

Speaker 1 Well, dude, he was, when he was talking about, he did like a pod about like voting or something.

Speaker 2 He's like, so what? So what? Who farm a vote for?

Speaker 1 What you going to do about it?

Speaker 2 And it's like, whoa, dude.

Speaker 2 I do agree with you. The stamina, of course, with a 57, 58-year-old man, you look at it and that's the thing, but it's not like he's just saying, yeah, give me the money.

Speaker 2 Let me get the dude is in phenomenal shape for his age. Now, that still might not be enough because I want to point out, Jake Paul is also in phenomenal shape.

Speaker 2 Jake Paul, from all things I've seen, is training for real. He's trying to live a boxer life.

Speaker 2 He has the different thing where he wasn't boxing as a kid and he didn't have to box to survive and to make money.

Speaker 2 That's a fortunate place, but I do think he respects and loves the sport and he's not a little dude. He's not a little dude.

Speaker 1 Well, have you watched, have you watched?

Speaker 2 He's got a hammer.

Speaker 1 His dock is called The Problem Child. Have you watched that?

Speaker 1 It's pretty fascinating. Like Jake Paul

Speaker 1 has gone through a lot, mental stuff, up and down, and been through a lot. And the dude's kind of like saving grace has been boxing, right? So I don't think anyone...

Speaker 1 Like, there's a, you could not like the guy. I get that.
But you can't disrespect the fact that he genuinely loves his sport and he works works hard and he trades.

Speaker 1 Now we can say, like, hey, if you really want to be a boxer, like, go fight professional boxers.

Speaker 2 Well, that's what's got to be.

Speaker 1 But if I'm Jake Paul, it's like, why?

Speaker 1 I'm getting more viewership doing this, fighting Tyson, fighting, you know, Fury, fighting like, you know, ex-UFC guys, making 50 mil a fight, laughing and giving the people what they want, a show.

Speaker 1 That's what they want. Like, that's what, to me, that's what boxing is now, which is unfortunate.
UFC is a completely different animal. This is what boxing has become.

Speaker 1 And by the way, we're all suckers because we're all watch it.

Speaker 2 I'm in. Well, that brings me to my next thing, too.

Speaker 2 I do think Jake Paul is a really good fighter.

Speaker 2 We'll see. We're reserving judgment to see how good he could actually be, but he is a damn good fight promoter.
And that you cannot take away from him as a fight promoter.

Speaker 2 And maybe that's why he's, maybe all this is like a thing where, yeah, I'm going to get some fights, get some experience, make a lot of money.

Speaker 2 And then I have this amazing fight promotion business waiting for me.

Speaker 2 There's a great fight, too. It's not even an undercard.
Co-main event, Katie Taylor, Amanda Serrano, they fought a few years ago. It was an awesome fight.
Awesome fight. Rematch.

Speaker 2 Katie Taylor won the title. Amanda Serrano has won five fights in a row.
So I'm showing up for that as well. All right.

Speaker 1 Let me ask you a question real quick.

Speaker 2 We're going to do predictions and I'm going to talk some betting odds and then we're going to

Speaker 1 get you're offered a million dollars

Speaker 1 to be on the undercard of whatever, a Jake Paul. Maybe two.
We'll give you two mil.

Speaker 2 Two mil. Two mil.

Speaker 1 You and Kevin Connolly.

Speaker 2 He just called me. Okay.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 it's full. It's everything we've talked about.
You're training. You guys are like, there's no like, hey, you hit me.
It's full go. Who's winning?

Speaker 2 Oh, who's winning?

Speaker 1 Yeah, and would you do it?

Speaker 2 This is a thing, and we're going to have Connolly on. Connolly and I.

Speaker 2 Okay, let me unpack this. Connolly and I.
We don't have time to unpack it. I'll do it quick.

Speaker 2 Connolly and I have always been competitive with each other in a healthy way. Who's faster? Who has a better arm? Who hits our like, and it's jokes, but there's always a hint of seriousness.

Speaker 2 We're also like the same size, so it would be a good fight because we line up pretty much. I think I got a few pounds on him these days, but we lost.

Speaker 2 The problem is. It's hard what I do with it.
He's my friend. I love the guys.

Speaker 1 I don't know who your enemy is.

Speaker 2 But if we got that, here's how this would go.

Speaker 2 If you came to us with that offer, we'd be like let's try to get it to like three million we try to get a little more money get a little but you guys got to beat the out of each other out there there's no holding back there's no fluff if there's fluff then you don't get paid no and the good thing is is i don't think connolly or i with 16 ounce gloves or whatever which i think jake paul and tyson are wearing too we can't overlook that i don't think we could i know we could hurt each other i don't think even with our best, we could do tons of like crazy damage.

Speaker 2 So I wouldn't feel bad that I would like hurt him or he would hurt me. I think one of us could knock the other out, maybe.

Speaker 2 Would I do that? I pay to see that.

Speaker 2 To me, that's such an all, I might need more dough.

Speaker 2 Really? Because again, we were talking about the Daniel Jones thing. Now, here I am saying I need more money.

Speaker 2 Well, I just look at it, like, if it gave me two, by the time I'm done with taxes and commissions, it's a million. You just cut 50%.

Speaker 2 It's free money.

Speaker 1 And think about the exposure you're going to get.

Speaker 2 Three million, we got a deal. I'm going to go to the next one.

Speaker 1 Think about what that would do for our podcast.

Speaker 2 On our break,

Speaker 2 on our break, I'm going to text Connolly that, or maybe I'll call him on on the show. Call him on the show.
Should I call him right now? Yeah, why not?

Speaker 2 I'll set it up. That's a great question, Leiner.
All right, really quick. What's your prediction? What's your prediction for this? And I'm going to throw some betting odds at you.

Speaker 1 My prediction? Okay, I haven't seen any betting odds. I haven't seen anything.
I'm going to give you some after this. Gosh, how many rounds is it? Oh, gosh.
You know what?

Speaker 2 That's a great question.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I mean, it's got to be a minimum 10, right? Or 8 to 10.

Speaker 2 Andrew, or whatever. Do we know what the particular? I think it's two-minute rounds, by the way, too.
I think the rounds are shortened. I think everything is shortened to favorite.

Speaker 2 Like, whatever is legal and sanctioned,

Speaker 2 it's a cyber traditional fight.

Speaker 1 I think it's going to go the distance, and I think

Speaker 2 come on, it's a tough one.

Speaker 1 It is a tough one.

Speaker 1 I think Jake Paul will win.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 Jake Paul is minus 210. Okay.
Mike Tyson plus 170. All right.
It's an eight-round fight. Thank you, Adam.

Speaker 1 Eight rounds. Eight rounds.
Eight rounds, two minutes.

Speaker 2 I do think Jake Paul is going to win. Okay.

Speaker 2 The reason why, my analysis is 15 years ago, whatever, I remember Mike Tyson on the way out of his professional career.

Speaker 2 He said in one of his post-fight press conferences where he got knocked out by a journeyman, said, I can't keep doing this. I can't keep learning, losing to journeymen.
I'm ruining my legacy.

Speaker 2 How is he in better?

Speaker 2 Is it possible he's a better fighter and in physical shape now than he was 20 years ago when he was losing to journeymen because some of the journeymen he lost to toward the end i don't think are that much better than jake paul i really don't

Speaker 2 i'm saying

Speaker 2 what are you talking about i don't think some of the people of course he was in better shape right no that's what i'm saying like i don't know how tyson now can beat a fighter that was beating him 20 years ago because exactly no i agree i don't know

Speaker 1 i'm with you i think he's got to go no holds bar the first two rounds and if he really wants to catch him and catch him and get it, get inside like he used to just come at you, get inside, and just start laying it.

Speaker 2 Jake Paul's beard certainly looks like an advantage. How is that not an advantage? His beard's down to here.
How is that not extra click?

Speaker 1 It's got to deflect the punch right to his

Speaker 2 could soften it by 3%, which might keep him on his feet.

Speaker 1 But I got to be honest, I'm going to watch this. I'm going to watch this shit for sure.

Speaker 2 So here's a fun one.

Speaker 2 Tyson to win by KO, TKO, or DQ. Basically, Tyson wins non-decision plus 250.
That's a fun one. That means you're basically betting Tyson to knock him out, right? Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 1 That's your Tyson knockout.

Speaker 2 If you want to get creative over under rounds, six and a half, it's basically minus 110 over six and a half. If you want Jake Paul by KO or TKO, plus 140.

Speaker 2 Plus 800 for a draw, that's a sneaky fun one because then they'll just do the rematch and get it and get another 10 million or 50 million apiece. I'm trying to find the best odds.

Speaker 2 I think if you really want to to take a shot, Jake Paul by round,

Speaker 2 if you go Jake Paul, fifth round knockout plus $1,200.

Speaker 2 No way to bet.

Speaker 1 No way.

Speaker 2 I'm going to bet on Jake Paul. You think he's going to knock out Tyson? No, but here's why I'm betting on Jake Paul.
It's a win-win. If Tyson wins, I will not be sad about losing that money.

Speaker 2 Oh, of course. But if Jake Paul wins, which would make me sad, I want a little bit of money in the process.

Speaker 2 All right. It's going to be good.
We're going to to take a break, but I will be watching that this weekend. I'm going to see if I can get Kevin Conley on the phone real quick.
We'll be right back.

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Matt, we're going to do this. Every week, we're going to pick a player that we're counting on or a team that we're counting on going into the weekend.

Speaker 2 You want to our first one. This is our first one.
You want me to lead off? Go for it, man. What you got? All right.
We just spent 10, 15 minutes talking about him. I am counting on Mike Tyson.

Speaker 2 All I'm counting on, Iron Mike, just give us a good fight.

Speaker 2 I don't even care if you win or just give us a good performance. God, that would be great.

Speaker 2 I'm going to be tuning in. Give us a good performance.
Turn back the clock a little bit and

Speaker 2 just get him, Mike Tyson.

Speaker 1 And just come out in the black trunks, the black famous trunks, right? I just, oh, he's got it.

Speaker 2 He's got it. The towel, which is the towel, the towel robes.

Speaker 1 I can't wait to see that look when

Speaker 1 he walks to his music.

Speaker 1 Okay, so I'm counting on the Colorado Buffaloes.

Speaker 2 Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 Hear me out. Not just because I'm going there this weekend, but

Speaker 1 this is prime, Coach Prime, Deion Sanders. Last year started fast, ended horribly.
A lot of people said he couldn't build the way he's building.

Speaker 1 A lot of people are tired of the theatrics and the entertainment and this and that and the flash. These boys control their own destiny to get to a college football playoff.
They get Utah this weekend.

Speaker 1 So this is more counting on them this weekend, but also counting on them to make a run at a college football playoff in Prime's second year as the head coach with his son, the quarterback.

Speaker 1 It's pretty wild and one of the quickest turnarounds we've ever seen. So, Prime doing his thing over there in Boulder.

Speaker 2 That's a great one.

Speaker 2 Talk about people in the news.

Speaker 2 It's going to be really interesting with everything coming out of Colorado. Is Deion going to coach somewhere else? Where is Shador going?

Speaker 2 There's just so much to break down. You could do a whole podcast just on Colorado alone.
That's a good one. Counting on him.
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Speaker 2 We're going to do that each and every week and exciting stuff going forward. Time for the throwback three, Matt.
I had a hard time with this one. It was my choice, my week, my category.

Speaker 1 You know, don't you hate it when it's like you do it, and then you're like, damn, like, I can't think of it.

Speaker 2 There's too many because then I, well, the category, we said it earlier,

Speaker 2 it's sporting event that you wish you were at. If you could be at any of the great sporting moments, we're going to give you good seats.
What's your throwback three?

Speaker 2 It's tough for me because I have the New York side of me and I have the general sports side. So I tried to balance it as best I could.

Speaker 1 You want me to start with number three?

Speaker 2 Start with your number three. I'll work my way.
Yeah, I have a lot.

Speaker 1 Honestly, I kind of want to change it now because we've been talking a lot of boxing.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 1 I'm going Tyson Holyfield, the infamous ear.

Speaker 2 Could you imagine being at that fight, walking out of your room?

Speaker 1 1997, I was 14 years old. And again, this whole Tyson talks got me excited because it's one of my favorite athletes of all time.
Like he is just, he was so, he's such a polarizing figure.

Speaker 1 And, you know, that moment, I remember I was a teenager, like the most controversial, bizarre, like thing we, like barbaric, like we've never seen that, nor, nor will we probably ever see it.

Speaker 2 Like you literally bit a dude's ear off in the ring, which is unbelievable.

Speaker 1 Like, holy shit, when you think back at that. So I think to be there, And that was heavyweight boxing, like, you know, I mean, maybe not peak, but that was heavyweight boxing.

Speaker 2 That was the biggest fuzzy

Speaker 1 back in the day. Man, it would have been pretty sick to be, to really be ringside at any Tyson event in his prime.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 My number three,

Speaker 2 separating myself from my New York-ness. I went Tiger at the 2019 Masters, which is his fifth Masters title.
It's only five years ago. But if you're a golf fan, I was crying for a while.

Speaker 2 If you're a father,

Speaker 2 if you've come back from anything in your life

Speaker 2 seeing him there after everyone wrote him off for dead as far as golf is concerned horrific injuries winning at augusta also then you'd be at augusta which is also amazing so you'd have a front row seat to that and you know i've watched that tiger doc on hbo like three or four times and the part that gets me the most is see

Speaker 1 his kids didn't really know him winning like they did but they were super young and you see his kids run up to him i i just think that's that to me is my all-time golf moment there's the best start there those emotional moments after the best man when they win i even like the was it 2015 when he had the shot right like this the sickest golf shot of all time yeah like to be there just for that hole would have been like i mean i've watched i've watched that highlight probably 150 times in my life

Speaker 1 just because that shit just the motivation of that okay this one's too this one this one you're gonna this one's gonna be

Speaker 1 this one gets me excited. I'm not sure how you feel about this one.
2008

Speaker 1 Beijing Olympics,

Speaker 2 four by 100

Speaker 1 freestyle relay.

Speaker 2 That's what you want to be at.

Speaker 2 You want to be there?

Speaker 1 I want to be there.

Speaker 2 You making fun of me?

Speaker 2 No. No.

Speaker 2 Okay, so look,

Speaker 1 I've always wanted, okay, so one, I've always wanted to go to the Olympics.

Speaker 1 I feel like any sport fan would be like, okay, bucket list Olympics. And then it's always like, which, which events would you go during an Olympic run?

Speaker 1 I've always been a massive fan of women's gymnastics. I've always been a massive fan of swimming.
Not all of them, but like

Speaker 1 100-meter freestyle, 50-meter, like some of those, obviously.

Speaker 1 Honestly, basketball doesn't even do it for me because we typically beat everybody by 50. Like there were just certain events that you'd want to go see.
And I remember watching that.

Speaker 1 And that was the year when Michael Phelps, I think, got eight gold medals. He was going for like all time.

Speaker 1 And France was talking shit before because they were supposed to beat us. And Phelps, they're on the deck.
And just as he starts going like this, yeah, the backs laugh, just the lats.

Speaker 1 He's got massive lats. And Jason Lizak, who I had met years and years ago,

Speaker 1 is the final leg. And they win barely by like a fingertip.

Speaker 1 And again,

Speaker 1 it goes to the

Speaker 1 reaction to our team in that moment to win that against the world, France talking.

Speaker 1 It would have been electric in that building, dude.

Speaker 2 You want a 20-second Michael Phelps story? Yeah. So we were shooting, I think it's right after 08.
So we were shooting entourage in New York.

Speaker 2 We did an episode in New York, only did one in New York ever. And we're doing the scene.
And it just so happened, Michael Phelps just came home from the Olympics, was doing an interview at like NBC.

Speaker 2 We're in Manhattan shooting. Our AD, Gary Goldman, I believe it was, shout out to Gary, just goes up and takes a flyer, like goes up to Phelps, like, hey, we're shooting entourage outside downstairs.

Speaker 2 You want to come do a cameo? Guys just won eight gold medals like a week ago. He's like, yeah, for sure.
I love that show. Comes downstairs.
We threw a mic on him real quick.

Speaker 2 If you watch the episode, it's super fast.

Speaker 2 Kevin Connolly's come up now 15 times on this episode, is walking on the phone and he bumps into someone and the dude just turns around and goes, watch where you're going, bro. And just keeps walking.

Speaker 2 Michael Phelps. Michael Phelps.
That's fucking awesome. Low-key, sneaky, good cameo.
All right. My number two, I had to.

Speaker 1 I feel like you didn't like my number two, but it's okay.

Speaker 2 I like it. I like it.
And I want to do a conversation at some point about what your plans will be for the LA 2020 Olympics. Are you going to rent out your house and make a fortune?

Speaker 2 Are you going to go? What are you going to do? And then I'll go live on it.

Speaker 1 I'll go stay in Orange County, 30 minutes away.

Speaker 2 Let me tell you, you go stay wherever you want with the money that you probably get to rent out your house. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 I have to let the New Yorker in. I have to.
I'm sorry. I tried hard not to let you.
Well, you don't have to, to, but the Larry Johnson four-point play

Speaker 2 to be there for the Larry Johnson four-point play against the Indiana Pacers. All right, you could argue if it was a foul, fine, do all that.

Speaker 2 But where the Knicks were as well at that moment, underachieving, shortened season, and they end up going to the finals because of that shot.

Speaker 2 I just think to be at MSG for that moment for me and my generation,

Speaker 2 that's like peak Knicks.

Speaker 1 Was the Reggie Miller eight-point? Was that against the Knicks?

Speaker 2 Yeah, and I would not want to be there. I would have been at that one.
I would not want to be there for that. But that's all I'm going to do with the Knicks.
Okay.

Speaker 1 I love how it's like not even one of the top 1,000 sports moments of all time. And you just, you had to.

Speaker 2 Throwback three is a very personal exercise. Number one.
Number one.

Speaker 2 Arguably.

Speaker 1 I'm sure we'll do this at one point. The greatest sports movie of all time.

Speaker 1 The greatest moment, one of the greatest upsets, maybe the biggest upset in the history of sport.

Speaker 1 USA versus Russia, 1980 Winter Olympics in Lake Placid, New York.

Speaker 1 And Miracle, which 1980, I wasn't even born, right? So that movie, which was Kurt Russell, which is an outstanding,

Speaker 1 really sort of got me into being like, whenever it came out, whatever it was, was like, holy shit, like this is one of the greatest moments.

Speaker 1 And then you start to do the deep dive in the history of that. And then you watch like the docks and you see all these things.

Speaker 2 I love hockey.

Speaker 1 Like I grew up liking hockey, even though I live in the West Coast. And

Speaker 1 that moment, Al Michaels, all of that thing, it's like, it's just, it is literally the probably most iconic sports moment of all time, arguably, to be there in that, to witness like.

Speaker 1 grown men, the number one team in the world beat or against a bunch of our, and that was when we didn't have NHL players, professional players playing, I believe, right?

Speaker 1 They were all like college kids. Are you kidding me? Like, I got goosebumps just thinking about being there.

Speaker 2 It's the best. It's the best.
Sure, the best.

Speaker 1 One of the greatest calls of all time and one of the greatest USA sports moments of all time.

Speaker 2 Great one. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 I have another great hockey one, too, but it's again, it's Super New York, so I'm going to leave it out. If we do honorable mentions, I'll mention it.

Speaker 1 I was at the Kings Rangers Game 7 when we beat you guys, too.

Speaker 2 That wasn't it. It was actually Rangers Devils game seven.
Mark Messier guarantees a victory. They were down 3-2.
I said Rangers Devils game six. And then they go on to Stefan.

Speaker 2 And they go on to win the cup. Last time they did that.
All right, my number one. This is tough.
I have like three that I could put number one, but I'm really trying to do what means the most to me.

Speaker 2 What means the most to me, I think, is the 2001 World Series Yankees Diamondbacks, where George Bush throws out the first pitch after 9-11. Obviously, the world was in an awful place.

Speaker 2 New York was in a crazy place.

Speaker 2 But the Yankees make the world series. That's what Mr.
November happened with Jeter hitting the home run at midnight and all that stuff.

Speaker 2 I just think to be there growing up in New York, I have a lot of friends who were there.

Speaker 2 But also, the game was great as well. And the Yankees didn't win that series, obviously, but that had some of the craziest endings off of Young Young Kim.
Remember the Tino home run?

Speaker 2 All these wild finishes. So that for me is my number one.
It just edged out Christian Leightner's shot.

Speaker 1 Ah, Christian Leighton.

Speaker 2 Which I think we should take a swing at when we're at USC. That's a good question.

Speaker 2 Like, we don't have to have a defender. Can I make the pass? And can you make the catch and shot? Even without a defender in our 40s.

Speaker 1 Making the shot, I mean, I think I can make that shot like four or five out of 10 times. So like, that's, I don't know.
The pass is tough, dude.

Speaker 2 The pass is harder than the shot.

Speaker 1 I think the pass is hard.

Speaker 2 I could just do the pass.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I could probably do the pass.

Speaker 2 I just automatically put you as Leightner because you're 6'5.

Speaker 1 I think it'd be funnier if you do the shot.

Speaker 2 And I think the pass has a lot better of a chance of happening if you make it shot.

Speaker 1 I did have, we talked about, I did have, like, Kirk Gibson, obviously, was, was

Speaker 2 a little homerish for you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, again,

Speaker 1 but being there, like, I got to be there for game five of this World Series, so that kind of took,

Speaker 1 like, took the Dodger thing for me. There's, there's, I think seeing Michael Jordan in person would have been cool.
Like

Speaker 1 game six versus the Jazz Utah or just seeing them play in their heyday. Like there's a lot of things as a sports fan.

Speaker 1 When Kobe beat, when the Lakers beat the Celtics, I was actually in Europe watching that. I would get up.
We were on an insane boys trip and we would get up.

Speaker 1 I think it was two games while we were out there at like three in the morning to watch it. The best.
Which was crazy. So like those things, man, like like, but yeah, I mean.

Speaker 2 And maybe the Magic Larry

Speaker 2 NCAA final, just because you're looking at two guys, no one probably at the time, maybe you assumed how great they would be, but you just didn't know, really, for sure.

Speaker 2 And then you could have said, I was there, court side.

Speaker 1 That would have been a great game. I think Kobe's my favorite athlete.
I think his last game, getting over 60 against Utah, like just going out like that.

Speaker 2 I watched it. He was getting sick.

Speaker 1 I had a couple friends that went to that game, too. And I was like, damn, I should have went to that game.

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