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Hello, everyone, and welcome back to the Triforce podcast.

How are you today?

Episode 2.

Fantastic.

Wait, how was the Triforce?

Wait.

Period of Facts has forwarded me an email this morning.

I just noticed it come in.

It's from a listener.

Yeah.

Harry.

You deal with it.

This is not a mailbag episode.

It's not a mailbag episode.

No, we're making a special exception here for Harry.

Harry found a bodega book on Vinted for one pound.

So one of you

is way over the odds for that.

One of you sold a first edition bodega for a pound to Harry.

You're a fan of the older.

And he's so delighted by it that he wants to

give it away.

He wants to give it away for charity to someone more worthy.

Send me it.

Send me Harry, and we'll

send it to you.

Well, first edition for one pound.

At our next birthday auction.

I wouldn't have to send it to you.

Well, we did sell a first edition bodega on the charity birthday auction.

You sold the first, second, and third.

We did.

Well, they belong to me.

There's actually a nice clip on YouTube of Sarah showing it off and then dropping it.

She should have kicked it.

Trodden on it.

But no, it sold for a bunch, dude.

Some kind Triforce listener bought

all the three editions of Bodeka.

We'll see if I can find it.

I think it was like £300

or something.

It's crazy.

They paid.

£300.

A very generous donation to charity.

Thank you, whoever gave that.

And also, someone bought the Triforce jugging jug that I had spare.

You had a spare one?

Yes.

Well, I get

sent one of everything, you see.

And this one was just...

Everything.

£265 it was for the bodegas.

That's pretty good, isn't it?

You get sent one of everything so you've got all the large hadron collider you've got

a satellite 207 pounds for the trifles jucking jug that'll be a nice ornament on someone's straight in a back pocket thank you so much zam 2013.

jesus

yeah that's cool innit so thank you that is really good it's hard i it was just a bit of fun to do i realize it's not a particularly um inclusive event when you have uh we're really looking for those big bucks off the uh off the whales, you know.

Yeah, no pause, yeah, yeah.

You know, this is one of them highbrow events, everyone's wearing a suit, you know, uh, there's like canopies going around, and people talking about how much money they've made in crypto or whatever.

I don't know, God, I don't know what people talk about, rich people events these days.

Yeah, you don't get to go to them, really.

Let me uh tell you, as I've as I've just entered the Society for Rich People, um, I hit a bit of a personal milestone, personal finances.

Uh, I've been uh, I've been dabbling.

I got a couple of apps.

The kind of stuff they talk about is

just money.

You downloaded them where you made them.

I downloaded a couple of apps.

I've made a couple of huge moves.

I invested at the right time.

I saw some dips.

I sucked up the

lows and held on to the highs.

How much did you make, baby?

35 cents.

Yeah.

Sold a couple of lemonades in there.

Congrats.

Sharpened a couple of popsicle sticks and put a couple of baseball cards into people's spokes.

Interesting.

I'm living the dream.

I also put some money into an investment account because I thought, you know, generally it moves up, doesn't it?

I think if you'd had money invested over, I think it's at any point in history, it would have made money if you just didn't touch it for 25 years or whatever.

Yeah.

So I put, I actually had a bit of spare money and I put two and and a half thousand pounds in an investment account.

Two and a half thousand.

Yeah, at the end of May.

And now it's all right for some, I guess.

Wow, it's this is some, everybody's going to have some savings.

Yeah, but I mean, this, this is now worth £2,602.76.

So

you could call me kind of an investor.

I've made £102.76.

Well,

that's a tidy sum.

That sounds like profit.

That sounds like two kids going to university to me.

It's not enough to buy a bodega first edition, but

I'm working on it.

Many years ago, I invested in some gold and silver.

Yes, I'm very aware.

I'm very aware of it.

Last year.

Have you seen any movement?

Well, no.

Here's the thing.

Recently, it's gone up quite a lot.

That's right.

But I sold it all last year.

Oh, well done.

Oh, you sold it all?

I sold it all at the start of last year for about the price i bought it for well at least

you didn't lose anything so i didn't lose anything well but i didn't get anything over like having it of 10 years or whatever um

and

so

and so um well because i'm

buying a house you know so i needed it in like uh in more you needed to liquidate accessible yeah

jerry i gotta liquidate some i said what do i got gold sir sold it all

so i wish i keep getting these flipping notifications of like, oh, you know, the price is such a record high.

And I'm like, oh, kill me.

I could have bought two houses.

Can I do a very early Flax News break?

Yeah, go for it.

Is there a big up in here anywhere?

No.

Oh, no.

No, this is the opposite.

There was an esports team that played at the esports World Cup.

Yeah.

Is that the one that was in Saudi Arabia?

It is still in Saudi Arabia.

It's taking place there.

Yeah.

So

there's a PUBG team called Team Team Aryan, okay, which is all Indian guys, and one player called Hitler.

Oh, my God.

That is his player name.

Now, I'm going to send you guys a link to the statement that he made.

I'll read the statement out, but I want you guys to be able to see it.

Team Aryan.

Is it Aryan?

Team A.

A.

A.

Y.

Ra-A-N.

A-R-Y-A-N.

Yeah, right.

So this is Hitler's statement.

I want to sincerely apologize for my previous esports ID and apologize to anyone who's hurt by it.

It was highly insensitive and hurtful, and I used it without fully considering the weight and historical pain associated with it.

It was never my intention to offend anyone or glorify anything negative.

I have changed my esports ID to Henry.

Thank you to those who helped me realize this.

I'm committed to making sure I represent myself.

So,

this is just the latest in an edgelord teenager making a username that they thought was funny because they're a meme edge lord, right?

This is so funny.

Maybe you just figured, you know, enough time has passed.

I can maybe get away with this.

Exactly.

And suddenly, accidentally, he's gets really good at because he's because he's like a teenager, he's just really good at Dota, I guess.

This is how it happens.

This really does happen.

And then he was like starting to become world famous as a player, and you're like, oh, no.

But

I don't feel all that.

I mean, everyone's, I'm still using my

cringy, some cringy logins and usernames for some of the stuff, right?

That from what I made when I was a kid, and I'm sure tons of people are, right?

So I bump into it all the time.

You know, you get like a CV from a software engineer, and his name's like, you know, flipping

Five Nights at Freddy's fan69.

You know, I've actually changed all mine.

I've wanted to take a more serious approach.

So I've changed all my usernames to Christopher Lovis

Honors, b b ch s honors um and uh phd and uh what's the other one mdm b so d that's the one i think have you got any of those

okay well that's perfect yeah that's just right in the rest of the book

exactly

well so i want to see

dr sips you know yeah i just wanted to i just wanted to really um

you know i wanted to boost my linkedin profile is is why i've i've done a this,

you know?

I get a lot of job offers on LinkedIn, not from people, but from the app or the website that has looked at the quote-unquote skills that I have, if you can call them that, and tries to find jobs that it thinks I could do.

Any good ones?

No, no, they're all absolutely terrible.

So, yeah, it's quite funny because obviously I don't have experience at a company for 16 years now, really.

No.

And so it looks like I've just been unemployed.

And the things that you put in as your job, LinkedIn LinkedIn doesn't really get them

and just assumes like, ah, this guy's

no, I've never heard of him.

So it recognizes me things like data entry and stuff like that.

I've had a great stint of unemployment myself for the past.

Oh my God, I've loved being unemployed.

It's been so great.

I've been contracted a lot, but I haven't obviously had a job job.

I think LinkedIn is one of these kind of

full of county language, right?

It's the worst.

Like this guy I follow, well, follow a guy i know um yeah this guy guy i'm connected with i don't want to read it read out who he is absolutely but

his friends on linkedin

but it's like just reading his platform his his plat his it reads like the most corporate buzzword bullshit you know digital first growth accelerator paving the way for multi-platform revenue and do you know what i mean like it's it's just full of garbage yeah Um,

and I, I, I, I, I feel like I, I mean, my, mine is no different.

You know, my LinkedIn is all like, I set it up 10 years ago, or God, maybe even longer.

I changed the picture about five years ago.

Um, I need to, I sort of feel like I ought to just delete it.

Was that when you were in your uh, your uh, um, samurai era, Lewis?

I, I don't know, um, what era I was in.

I've gone through a few, but I, I, there is a feeling that you have to play the game, right?

You have to have at least a presence on there and an Instagram and stuff to feel legit.

Like, I do do things that really require me to be legit, like Jingle Jam and things like this.

And certain people do buy into this.

Yeah, look at a lot of it users that use it as like kind of an extension to their like their online dating profile as well, you know, like

somebody looks you up and then and then they're like, if you want more info, check out my LinkedIn, and then you have like all your, you know, look at my money, here's a picture of me with money, yeah, basically

my LinkedIn messages.

I got my message from

a man.

I'm not going to say he.

No, don't, don't, dox.

We've been here before.

It doesn't go well.

Well, I was going to say I got a message from a cunt, but I got a message from a man.

That doesn't narrow it down.

Luckily, that doesn't narrow it down.

And, you know, it's just, it's just like, you know.

Do you need, I'm keen to follow up on my previous message regarding corporate finance.

Mergers and acquisitions activity may be on your short-term agenda.

I mean, I'm getting these kind of things, but also I've got a guy who just sent the words chicken jockey to me.

Do you know what I mean?

So I get the whole gamut

of

people.

That seems like a nice man.

I think he's a Yogna.

He is dressed in a very smart suit.

His title says hospitality expert.

So

I guess that is, he works as a server or like at a reception.

Do you know me?

Hospitality expert.

So, I mean, i think that's but uh like i i guess you have to like spin stuff right you have to constantly be grinding always you gotta fake it till you make it i think is yeah exactly it's a very american thing but i i mean one of this one of these things i do for jingle jam is i do interact with so many people to try and connive and finagle them to give me their games right and people respond to different things some people are just oh you're emailing me great i haven't had an email from someone forever i'm I'd love to talk to you.

Some people are like really business focused.

They're like, they're giving me pages of feedback on why Jingle Jam doesn't work and how they should do it differently.

And they're like, you know,

if I got a Porsche and I'm giving it away, you know, I'm not giving that away for charity.

Like, I'm keeping it for myself.

So, like,

you know,

it's nonsense.

Like, people are.

People are telling me how to run some.

And other people are like, they

listen here, Barcaro.

I've never run a charity before, but it looks fucking easy.

I watched a two-minute YouTube video on four times speed, and I'm pretty sure I know what I'm fucking talking about now.

So

it is incredible.

I also think it's funny because I get people, like, I'm sure we all get these emails.

Hi, stumbled upon your channel and want to help you with growth and we can unlock blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

And you look at this person's profile, you look at their online presence, you look at whatever shitty company they're advertising, and there's nothing there.

It's just a black hole.

There's nothing.

They've got no successes whatsoever, nothing to point to.

And they're like, they've got the balls to cold call you and say, hey, we've reached out to you because you are someone with some kind of measurable success.

However great that is or however small that success is, it's more than I've got, but I can help you, which is ridiculous.

It would be like me going up to someone who has got a really nice car in my piece of shit and saying, hey, buddy, you want to hear something about car ownership and how to get a bargain?

And I'm just driving a piece of shit and they're driving a brand new electric car or whatever.

Why am I offering them advice?

Who would ever buy into that?

And I understand this man, this LinkedIn mentality is the you're just gonna be a grinder, you're just gonna cold call, cold call.

Stop doing it.

It's so wank.

It is so wank.

I hate it.

I, I, do you, do you guys follow LinkedIn lunatics on?

Well, I don't follow it, but I see it occasionally.

Yeah,

I die a little inside.

It's unbelievable.

So, this is some guy's then.

This is a mock.

It is

an influencer post.

Yesterday, I was walking to an interview.

There was a starving dog on the road.

I stopped to feed him and missed the interview.

The next day, I got a call asking to come in to do the interview.

I was surprised, but I went.

Then the interviewer came in.

He was the dog.

Like, that's it.

It's just all that.

Because the thing is, I feel like these people, they don't just want to talk about work.

They want to make out like this is some spiritual journey for them.

Yeah.

Working and stuff.

I do not understand where this LinkedIn delusion of it's not just about experience and work and connections and CVs, which is what it could conceivably be.

For some reason, it has to be some big fucking spiritual journey.

And I think it's what happens is if you get any measure of success, you become so egotistical and self-centered and so pleased with yourself that it almost feels like a spiritual experience.

And you suddenly take on this kind of guru

sort of persona where you have to share this wisdom and knowledge with the poor people like jesus walking amongst the destitute lepers and handing out cvs it's pathetic i don't understand why linkedin attracts these people but it does yeah it really does yeah it is like full of people exactly like that

i think it's i think it's to them it's become a hobby and a game to play and they they found they it's almost like they found a bargain somewhere right you know if you like start if you go to a boot sale and you find like a bargain you get like this high of like oh my god like that guy who found the bodega for a pound right right he's going to be looking for other bodegas he's going to be looking for other stuff on there like he's going to be that's going to be his little hobby and i think these people they've gotten some sort of success from this i don't know what it is but they're also the kind of people who come up with these insane ideas like you know like like you said about that job interview thing they're almost like they will disguise themselves as a receptionist and it's like i i was pretending to be the receptionist when i you know brought in candidates for interview to see how they would treat me and then see their reaction when they realized that I was the boss.

And it's like, who does this?

Well, people do.

And they think it's normal, right?

They think it's like a clever ploy to like, you know,

where really all you're doing is like, like scaring away normal people.

Right.

You're just hiring lunatics.

But here's the, do you reckon when you get to a certain level of success, let's say you've started a company and it has done well, and now you've entered the LinkedIn era of your guru madness, that you end up having very little to actually do day to day because you're the owner you don't have to be in every meeting you're not down there doing all the grinding and the work you're doing like business meetings and b dev meetings and stuff and you're just kind of you've ascended to this plane where you are actually quite bored in your office with your Newton's cradle and your fish tank and your you know bamboo desk or whatever you're like

what the fuck am I gonna do uh let's fuck with the potential i think you're wrong about that i think that what they're doing is they're just lying in bed browsing instagram and wanking.

Do you know what I mean?

They're not actually going into the office.

I mean, that's what Jimmy would be doing.

I'm not saying they're happy, but they're not depressed in the office.

They're not sing and dance about it, though.

They're not depressed in the office.

They're just depressed like, you know,

like a retired person who doesn't know what to do themselves anymore.

But I mean, that's...

Look, PFLAX, that is the dream to hand your...

created business off to other people.

And so you don't have to.

You got to just sit there making mula.

I don't think any of these billionaires has lifted a finger ever.

Like it was always about getting other people to

work for them and do things for them.

And so they don't have to do anything.

And that is unfortunately the way capitalism works.

And it's very poisonous in its distribution of wealth, right?

Like, I think it's.

Just for the record, sorry, just for the record.

That is Lewis speaking.

That is Lewis.

That is not me.

That is Lewis saying that.

So if you either leave a comment or email me, that is Lewis's voice.

This is my voice.

The things that lewis is saying are not the things that i am saying if you go

heads out of your asses for a second that is lewis's voice if you have an issue with something that he has said that is the person to address it to not me thank you thank you so much thank you so much you can still email pflax and complain about me well yeah no feel free to do that but it is not me speaking sorry what have i said this is me speaking now what have i said here that you have no problem with multiple no i have no problem with it the difference is there are people out there I think they're

mental people, who hear our voices and cannot tell the difference.

And they're like, can't believe Pyrrhion said this on the latest podcast.

And even if I agree with it, it wasn't me that said it.

It was one of the other people on the podcast.

I think they can tell who Sips is because he's Canadian.

They know he's got a different accent.

But between you and me, for some reason, even though our voices are very different, they're like, well, Pyrrhion's an idiot with his take on this.

I didn't say anything, brother.

That was Lewis.

If you've got a problem, leave a comment directed at at him.

I don't know.

I've said this, I've said it so many times on this podcast.

My take is like, you know, that these people don't know that enough is enough.

They don't realize that,

like, billionaires today don't realize that they need to spend their billions on promo by building schools and hospitals.

That's what the OG billionaires did to survive.

And none of these guys are doing that.

They're all doing things like renting Venice and getting protests against them and, you know, and being shot by people like Luigi.

Do you know what I mean?

they they're they're actively sabotaging themselves there there's this backlash against the rich right and we and they i'm just shocked when i see them being such publicly awful people because i'm like come on guys what you what are you doing like you could be such a force for good in the world and everyone could love you instead you know elon's all depressed now he's think about who your friends are think about who your friends are when you're that rich you're not hanging around with anyone that's like living normal lives like the rest of us you're hanging around with other dickhead billionaires.

So

or people who want to be who just want to

watch a movie about this actually.

There's a movie called Mountain Head.

Yeah, basically it's like

three four billionaires go away to like a secluded weekend retreat.

Oh Zeo and Jesse Armstrong.

Oh wow.

Yeah, these guys are basically like the idea is they're the heads of the world.

Jesus Schwartzmann, Steve Corell.

This looks great.

Well,

I enjoyed it.

It's good.

It's It's like a kind of these guys are of the four billionaire pals who are the owners of these, like, basically the owners of Facebook, Google, you know, and two others.

And they've each got their own competing AIs.

And there's like this huge amount of turmoil going on in the background while they're kind of on holiday having like this kind of,

yeah, it's, it's having like this kind of really detached weekend where they're just they're not in a in the real world, you know, they don't really understand what it's like.

And it's, I, I thought it was a good little,

good little movie.

And it, it, I don't know.

Where can I watch this?

I, uh, I watched it.

You probably did.

I knew it.

Who's a pirate?

It's on HBO.

There you go.

Oh, it's on HBO.

So I want to show you a picture real quick.

And you tell me if you recognize this.

Let me see if this link works.

You see this bad boy?

Do you know what that is?

That is an alkene.

That is a model of ethylene, the simplest alkene.

Look at the butt on that fucking thing.

That has got a real dumper.

If you know what alkenes are, look them up on Wikipedia.

I think that the same icon is in Factorial, so you've probably seen it if you've played Factorio.

It's a hydrocarbon.

If you Google ethylene and you look at the Wikipedia page for an alkene,

you've got a great.

It looks like it's.

It looks like it's a big ass.

I spoiled that today.

So I went down a bit of a rabbit hole this morning where I was looking at.

I think you're a bit horny if you're looking at like a chemical.

No, I just thought it was like.

My eldest keeps sending me pictures of the brackets.

There's a lot of chemical asses in the area.

That's the source.

Great rain frogs.

Have you seen rain frogs before?

It's like the African rain frog.

Sure.

It's got a butt.

It's got a literal butt.

And she keeps sending me pictures of that frog's butt because she thinks it's hilarious.

Right.

So that's why I posted this.

uh it's just i might send it to her oh my god so so anyway i was going down this rabbit hole

has your wife gone away or something or something no no she's at work today she's at work today continental drift right and i i was i was continental drift what is that so continental drift is the way that the different tectonic plates of the earth are obviously moving above and below each other sometimes when they because my my youngest was doing this in geology or geography the other day sometimes when the plates meet they both go up sometimes when they both meet they both go down and sometimes when they both meet one goes over the other and one goes underneath the other and sometimes they just rub against one another and this gradual hot pushing i know very hot right

if you imagine some alkenes doing that now you're talking

way better if i tried to you know

consider everything as sexual as a sexual thing oh my god so um there is this thing called the the the the tendency towards Pangea, right?

Which is that essentially, over time, the continents will smash into each other and form a Pangea.

And then, with the continental drift, they'll sort of pull apart again and be all separated and come back again.

So, Pangea Proxima, I will link a Wikipedia article to this, is the modeled and supposed future Earth sort of continent,

the way it will look in the future.

Pretty much all the continents slam back in together.

We'll splotch back together.

In a very short amount of time africa plows into uh southern europe australia wheels around and clobbers into china god america puts on a lot of back fat and gains a bit of a dumper as well

no but i'm seriously in geological terms

250 million years is nothing okay 10 million years is a blip you say very short amount of time

in this context it's 250 million years that's i mean

people might say that's not a short amount of time.

Yeah.

It's a long time for a human being, but for the Earth, it's Nada.

It's Nada.

I love that, like, you know, it's, it's, it's like,

it's like they've gotten old.

They got dad bod.

And, you know, Russia's, you know, years of smoking has caused Russia to like have a hunch short.

Yeah.

But here's the thing.

If you watch, I found a video.

You can, you can easily find these videos.

There's a video that sort of shows a time-lapse.

And again, this is, you know, this is all supposed and theoretical theoretical and modeled.

It's not definitely going to be this way, but something along those lines I think is going to happen.

If you look closely, the UK and Ireland never touch and they never touch Pangaea.

They were never meant to be together.

Brexit, 100% from the moment it was voted in in 2016.

250 million years from now, we're still not part of Europe, which really made me laugh.

Just like utterly bizarre.

But anyway, I wanted to talk about what would society look like if there was was just no, there's nothing between any country.

There's no body of water.

You could just get a train there or walk there.

The most successful countries won't be geographically isolated from each other or from me.

There wouldn't be any more illegal channel crossings, that's for sure.

Right, but would it be like a seesaw where whichever part of the continent is doing well, everyone migrates over there and it sort of tips the balance in favor of the other end where it's quieter and now that becomes more prosperous.

Everyone fucking migrates back over there over millions of years.

Really interesting.

You could build a railway that just covers the entirety of humanity.

You'd never need to, I mean, if you needed to fly somewhere, you could.

But if we're still around in 10 million years, presumably we'll have either teleportation or fucking insanely fast trains or God knows what.

But it just imagine if that was now, if all the countries in the world were smushed into one big thing,

what would the changes be?

What would the cultural impact have been?

Well, I think first thing would be that people would probably say, oh, there'll be less like diversity, right, of language and culture and writing styles and stuff.

Well, because it's much easier to have, at least in olden times, isolation for longer periods of time between cultures, right?

Like, and especially look at how, how, I think there would be more standardization, you know, at least, for example, in Europe, I think the languages are closer to, I think the languages across land barriers, you do have them, like even English and Welsh.

Man, can you imagine how long Route 66 and the 401 in Canada would be as well?

They'd have to extend them out.

There'd be one, yeah.

Like, well, I think you, I think you would still have a diversity, a big diversity.

I mean, there is in Europe, and we're

very small, relatively speaking, especially by climate.

I think climate informs a lot of cultural choices and things like that and behaviors.

And I think that,

but I think also, certainly in more recent times, I think it would have been,

there would definitely be less diversity in terms of animals, maybe as well, right?

Because you've got

so much of the diversity of animals comes from islands and isolated areas, right?

Of evolving on their own for a long period of time.

So I think if everything was just smushed in one big central landmass, I think we'd have a lot more extinct animals because I think we would have killed a lot of them,

you know, in

earlier periods.

You know, megafauna go quite quick if there's humans around.

So I don't know, like, I think it would be a much more boring world.

It would be, yeah, I mean, it would be like really, really gradual, too.

So like, it'd be hard to, it'd be, you'd have to, you'd have to like take a snapshot in time and then look back to it just to, to get like a real scale for all the, all of the, all of the changes, you know, you'd have to snapshot at either end and be like, wow, look at how different it is.

But like the, the, the slowness of, of how gradual it would be, you wouldn't really notice a heck of a lot, I don't think, you know,

especially in the lifetime of one person you wouldn't you wouldn't really notice a lot you know like oh no no of course not but i mean let's say i i'm i'm suggesting that uh let's go back to um

the recorded human history yeah so the beginning of like mess like the the the the ancient babylon and yeah mesopotamia and ancient egypt and then ancient greece and rome that era if that was the beginning of human history on pangea um i just wonder for example, there would have been no quote-unquote new world to discover.

So there would have been no difference really.

Like the Silk Road would be this permanent thing that just flows.

Yeah.

I mean, yeah, so there it is.

Yeah, so the migration of people would not be restricted.

If you think about the migration of people into America from, well, what we assume, they traveled across the Bering Straits when it was a land bridge, people coming to England when it was attached to France.

And then obviously the water levels rose.

And

the ICAI's ended cut off a lot of the land access routes to places.

If you took all that away over the course of human history, not even recorded history, we would presumably there wouldn't be as many different races because, like you said, we're all basically in one place.

Look, we have pure speculation here.

We genuinely don't know.

I'm sure there's some work been done on this.

That would be a good email.

If people want to email in about that, let us know.

It is kind of interesting to see history and stuff like madagascar is a really good example of somewhere that is right next to africa right on on that right hand side that big island but and and that's the birthplace of you know homo sapiens and homo all of the neandotals and everything came out of africa right but i think that homo came out of it wasn't until you know 1500 years ago that homo erectus man reached madagascar right

it's a huge place and same thing with new zealand you know it wasn't until 700 years ago that the first men set foot on new zealand and that is very recent right and i there's places like iceland as well wasn't really uh reached until the vikings um was that leaf erickson was that all leaf erickson yeah there are a bunch of these places that were very kind of just just slightly too far away by sea for any humans to have made it across you until they had proper technology to to build boats and and the vikings were the first to to to really do boat stuff though weren't they like to actually travel quite far from where they were

by the way.

I don't know, because they say the Pacific Islanders did a lot of that as well.

Oh, yeah.

The island hopping that resulted in the.

Yeah, but there's not like a six-season series about them.

So that's true.

That is true.

That's my supposed to be.

Yeah, exactly.

Right.

That's a very good point.

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Did I tell you I've been reading this book book called um dungeon crawler carl no dungeon crawler carl so it's it's basically oh god

it looks terrible right oh my god lewis i'm looking i'm looking at one of the people that's on there's a thumbnail here and guess who's involved it's seth green an absolute penis what the hell is he is he involved somehow sorry sorry seth mcfarlane sorry i mean

wait

seth mcfarlane is the family guy guy, right?

Universal International Studios buys Matt Dinnaman's dungeon crawler Carl with Seth McFarlane's fuzzy door and Chris Yost attached.

So Seth McFarlane's going to come in.

He's going to do a Seth McFarlane voice for all of the characters, and

that's going to be it.

So another thing ruined by this absolute bell end.

Where are you on?

Sorry.

I think it's a really good book series.

So basically, and you guys might like it.

It was self-published as this kind of lit RPG, which is almost like one of these, I don't know, it's a difficult genre to explain, but it's kind of like a kind of feels like a role-playing game in that people are leveling up, but there's game-like elements and

there's, you know, characters picking classes and stuff like this, right?

But it's just a book, it's a novel.

So it's kind of telling the story of someone going through this experience and it's very meta.

So the idea is that there's this guy and his cat, they fall into, I'm not going to spoil it, a sort of a big dungeon and they have to survive.

And so they have a hard and they get assigned stats based on their physical or mental abilities which with which they go into the dungeon.

But then they kind of level up, they get loot, there's this big AI controlling it and it's being watched as well by an intergalactic audience, right?

And it's fascinating.

And honestly, it's very funny.

I'm really enjoying it.

I guess like, I think that it wouldn't be very well reviewed by traditional book people, but because I'm so in the gaming world, I spent 10 years playing World of Warcraft, it really appeals to me.

And I just think

it's really good.

I'm on like book three already.

It's very dark humor, very like over-the-top violence, very kind of like crazy stuff going on.

It's very grim in a sense that the Intergalact audience is very varied, you know.

I don't really want to spoil any of it, but

it's really good and I really recommend it.

But I think it's an example of a genre that's adapting to the times, right?

There are these, there's a

certain group of people who have this idea of progression fantasy, it's called.

It's the idea that, you know, it's very satisfying.

One of the most satisfying elements of something like RuneScape is to see your progress, to earn your progress, to grind, to like make these achievements.

And, you know, we talk about LinkedIn and people kind of publishing their achievements.

And I think there's a lot of insecurity in that, right?

There's a lot of people who, and Instagram too, like I think the biggest influencers who have posted all these gorgeous pictures are incredibly insecure about their their look or or or or their life or it's the same thing with business like i think these linkedin even though it's billy even even the richest most successful businessmen are terribly insecure um and so i think this is in a world where you're cover you're surrounded by people who are constantly showing off their incredible achievements and how amazing they are.

It makes you feel terrible, right?

It makes you feel useless and ugly and hopeless.

And I think that it's, it's, it's, this is why playing games that are fun like sips you recently played parcel simulator i know where you just were delivering parcels yeah i did um yeah it's really good actually it's nice it turns into like a bit of a factory game it's nice i'm just reading this dungeon dungeon crawler carl is about a coast guard veteran and princess donut his ex-girlfriend's cat they're forced to participate in a deadly intergalactic game show where earth has been transformed into a massive dungeon crawl yeah yeah.

What's on Earth?

It's great.

I think it's honestly great.

Like, give it a go, and

you might find that you absolutely love it, P Flax.

It's, it's, it's, it's, uh, I hate everything about it so far, but I've got to be able to do that.

Oh, well, here's the thing.

I told Tom about it, and Tom was like, oh, this sounds terrible.

And me and him had like an hour conversation about it yesterday because he was up till like 4 a.m.

reading the books.

Okay.

All right.

I'll give it a go.

So

it's a recommendation from Tom as well, if that holds more weight than a recommendation from Tom.

It does, because you read that Brian Sanderson, Peterson, whatever books.

And I looked at those and they just looked like I'd spend the rest of my life reading these things.

But yeah, I'm just saying,

I think that it appeals to something deep in my being of like what like in the same way that these,

I've been finding myself drifting towards like these parcel simulators and these factory games.

And I played Cash Cleaner Simulator for about 12 hours this weekend.

That's great.

was like just me weirdly sorting stuff into piles.

All I was doing was like, like, I had like all my shelves.

I was like, here's all the hundreds, here's all the 50s, here's all the Euros, here's the ones that need cleaning.

Do you know what I mean?

It was like incredibly, yeah, it's good.

It was in, and I, I, for me, it's like a it's I always

say that these jobs don't represent real jobs, not even close.

Like parcel simulator, if you worked in it, that job doesn't exist, okay, of the guy building tables and sorting machines and

that job isn't real.

Why are these only in hardback?

Why can't I get them in paint?

There it is.

Tome one.

Dungeon Call.

Who's that guy who found Sam?

If you find the first, no, it's not Sam.

The first one.

For Christ's sake, I can't get it on Prime.

Fuck you.

Who was that guy?

Yes, you can get it on Kindle.

I don't have a Kindle.

Do you like audiobooks?

There's some really weird.

I like to read things.

I've got a long flight coming up, and I thought this will be either.

Yeah, you're off to Japan soon.

Yeah, nice, yeah.

You'll enjoy it, I promise.

Saturday, Japan will be great.

Have you never been, Flex?

To where?

Japan?

Yeah, no.

Oh, I thought you'd been.

No, you'll be, you'll, you'll love that.

You'll love that.

This is Flip for Work.

Oh, that's right.

Uh, like two months ago, just bizarrely enough.

When is this going to arrive?

It's going to arrive in today.

Okay, yeah, perfect.

I'm so excited for you to your take on Japan because I know that you're going to see you all the can you keep detailed notes or like a diary or something because I really want you to give me your daily thoughts on like all the crazy shit you see and because i'm sure it's gonna make your mind like go wild um all the stuff you see and interact with because every day you're gonna see so many things and if you don't write them down you're gonna i will keep a diary for the triforce podcast which i already have a document on my desktop called trifroce because i'm often misspelled triforces trifroce uh and i make notes on there about things that i've seen during the week so i'll do one um about you could do one about japan do you take pictures and stuff like that?

Oh, do you have

anything on there at the moment to go through?

Anything else?

On Intra Froce.

Yeah.

I was, I looked up the, there's a playlist of earliest internet memes, which isn't good for a podcast because the memes are obviously audio-visual.

They're all on YouTube and stuff.

Internet memes.

But yeah, it was things like, I mean, you'll remember all of these.

Charlie bit my finger and Trello though and all that kind of stuff.

First of all, an awful lot of them are really long.

Remember that one?

He's climbing in your windows and snatching your he's climbing in your window

up yeah that one they that was very big so they did loads of memes and it was like a full-length song um and but there were things like people did loads of animated videos with like something about a bunch of unicorns there was the whole look at my horse my horse is amazing all of those are honestly i i didn't really like them at the time because i wasn't a child when what about that one the badger badgers badgers badgers badger badger and then something bacon or something mushroom mushroom, like true, yeah, right.

So, that is like fucking eight minutes long or something.

Like, all of these memes are so long.

Um, that's crazy so bad.

Just look them up.

It's not like a 10-second TikTok.

I think I got a good handful of them.

Um, yeah, you know,

Troll went on, didn't it?

It's a whole song, it's like five minutes.

It's a whole fucking song.

So, I've here's this playlist I've got.

I'll pop this in.

I mean, so this is only

the chat.

I remember, Sips, you did a karaoke cover of

those verses I'd never heard before.

One of the whole song is he goes.

I was laughing.

He keeps going.

And then,

like I said, the high

part.

You really nailed that even today.

Well, I mean, there was

a frog, which was so much less.

Crazy frog.

Yeah, what about the Gummy Bear song?

You remember that one?

Oh, yeah, so that's on this list.

Boxy, do you remember Boxy?

Nope.

Sure.

So, Boxy was a scene kid from the early 2000s.

She had very heavy black eyeliner and that haircut where they sort of swoop it across their forehead.

And she had really over-the-top facial expressions and exaggerated movements.

My name is Boxie.

You like that?

And it was just her videos were very popular.

This video here is five minutes long.

Star Wars Kid, it's a two-minute video of a guy

doing dumb shit with like a, not a lightsaber, he does all kinds of moves.

David After the Dentist, this was massive.

Two minutes of a kid recovering from anesthesia.

Keyboard cat, which is just a cat going doing.

All of this stuff is all very sent to your mom innocent, like the David dentist and the Charlie with my finger.

And like, it's all very safe, right?

These big memes.

I think it was, it was, and also it's all quite.

I saw this one the other day

that made me laugh, but I don't know know if it's old or not because I don't really keep up on this stuff, but it was uh it was a CCTV footage and it was a pregnant woman standing on a bus and uh she was standing in the aisle and a whole bunch of people were sitting and a bunch of people were motioning for a woman to stand up to let her sit down.

So the woman stands up, but then she's she's got like a like an amputated leg and she's got crutches.

Like you don't realize this when she's sitting down.

It's just when she swivels over.

She's got like a like a fake leg and she's struggling to stand up so that this pregnant woman can sit down.

And then as soon as the pregnant woman is just about to sit down, the whole scene freezes and this guy just comes in off the left.

It's like a green screen and he just like

goes and sits on the seat, but like he's not sitting on the seat because it's not, it's, it's like a green screen, right?

So his legs aren't like where they need to be.

Okay.

It's so fucking stupid, but I thought it was really funny.

I don't know if it's even a thing.

I just, I saw it and it was, I I guess, you guys don't, aren't aware of this one.

I'd have no idea what you're saying.

That's why it's funny.

I'll see if I can find it.

It was, it was pretty funny, but this is this is it.

But the world is so much broader now.

I think, I think, if you were to share

the most popular meme, I think there's a good amount of people who just wouldn't know it.

I don't know.

Like, things didn't go as broad as they did in the early days of the internet.

You know, it feels like

it was a smaller place

than it is now.

I mean, yeah, yeah.

do you ever hear like all those like song remixes but they're things that my parents would find funny yeah uh like bomb iran and uh strangers on my flight like the after after 9-11 and all that kind of stuff where the does that come from like i guess it's just the same place but like fuck it's some of it is just the worst isn't it oh can we uh talking of all that kind of crap can we talk about this jeffrey epstein shit that's happening right now what the uh the the list list and then the non-list and then now it's a hoax

that's one of the most incredible vault fats in uh in recent political history like i've to me it felt like he built his entire base off shit like this well yeah a lot of people seem to think so but but now his base are saying like oh he never mentioned it and stuff so it's it's no

there's a huge amount of backlash like he he he has on truth social which is like the trump dick sucker platform people just go and they're lapping at his anus, everything he says, are like, sir, you're wrong about this and can't believe it.

And even Marjorie Taylor Greene and mammorons, maniacs like that are coming out and saying, but didn't they all just vote to

block the release of the files?

All of them just voted to block it, which is what...

I mean, it's all melting off on social, but like every Republican voted to block it.

Yeah.

Right.

But the thing is, I don't know if his base is genuinely going to let this one go.

Because this is one of their all-time favorite conspiracy theories.

And an awful lot of them are like, no, like we can't just say, oh, yes, Mr.

President, this was clearly nothing.

Because even in their darkest, deepest, darkest recesses of their absolute Trump-riddled minds, they must realize that this is the one thing that they just genuinely cannot let go because it's all they've talked about.

But there's some video that they released where there's like three minutes of footage missing and stuff.

Literally, and it's not even a good show.

Even if they're pushed to release the list, who's to say that it's just going to be, you know, lots of

data is going to be all blanked out and redacted.

Yeah, you won't even.

But yeah, apparently

it is genuinely like this is a moment where he's getting a lot of pushback against this.

And I just thought, how interesting to think that.

I just think of all the moments where he should have had tons of pushback that just materialized into nothing.

Right.

I just feel like this is just something he could easily blame on the Democrats.

That was stuff he could easily blame on the Democrats and just say, well, this was, you know, this was them.

And all he has to do is say things like, we're going to build a wall, we're going to do this, we're going to do that.

But this is something that they, they, their whole thing was that the Democrats are just pedos.

And it's like this international pedo ring and they're all part of it.

And Donald Trump's going to save the day.

And for him to then come into office and say, oh, no, I don't think the Epstein stuff is anything.

They're like, excuse me?

That was the whole conspiracy that we've been talking about for the last 10, 15 years was that this was a thing.

Pizzagate and all that shit.

And now he's just trying to hand wave it all.

I genuinely think that this might just be a moment where a lot of them are like, this is stupid.

But I wonder.

Yeah.

Who knows?

It's, I just thought it was so fascinating to hit to see first him and Elon turned on each other and then this.

I saw this great post this morning.

I can't find it.

But it's like, it's basically

Emperor Palpatine posting on Twitter.

And he's like,

the Sith files are a Jedi hoax.

It's orchestrated by Yoda, like evil, evil, idiot, evil crypt.

You know, that's funny.

Yeah, I like that.

Like sleepy Yoda.

Sense, Sleepy Yoda, yeah.

Oh, man.

That's great.

That is good.

And

false emails, Kenobi.

It's been spread by the radical Jedi news media, fake news.

I mean, I just thought it was so funny that it's like so

talking about Order 66.

There never was an Order 66.

I don't know why people think there was, but if there was, and there may well have been, I think it was Yoda that did it.

He's coming here killing these kids.

We've got a file that says he ordered Order 66.

I don't know what you're talking about.

Maybe we should look at something else.

What's Mace Window up to these days?

I never trusted that guy.

Can I tell you about the 24 hours in police custody that I watched last night?

It was a two-part.

Oh, my God.

Is it the butcher of suburban or whatever?

Fucking hell.

I've seen episode one.

I switched it.

I've always seen episode one.

And I'm like, all right, I'm ready.

I'm ready for an hour of no comment.

No comment.

There was not a single no comment like this guy was just it's unbelievable i've never known anything like it it was it was crazy it is crazy

so i i've i've seen episode one okay for anyone that hasn't seen it we're not going to spoil anything but we will just give you it's very early on in this episode pretty much the guy just confesses yeah um and he's done he's done a little bit of work to try to get away with it but then realizes that pretty minimal he's not going to get away with it and then just confesses he's just like

but he's the thing is, I was watching it with Mrs.

F.

She'd already seen it and I hadn't watched it.

She goes, you've got to see it.

I was like, all right.

So I watched episode one and at the end of it, I was like, so how is there an episode two?

She was like, you'll see.

They've got to find out what it is.

So I'm like, okay, I'm looking forward to this.

Like this show is so good, but in the episode before this one, there's some, I think it involves a crime involving some underage people.

And if they're under 18, according to UK law, you have to blur their face and you don't give their name and stuff like that.

And you can't even have their voice

to protect them because essentially they're still children.

But they've replaced their blurred out faces with AI faces.

Oh, no.

Oh, my God.

What, in police custody?

Yeah.

Oh, no.

Which I genuinely shocked because this show is so good and so well made.

Yeah.

And they obviously thought, look, we can't just have blurred out faces for a whole

there's, I don't know if you noticed, but even it is a good show.

It's well made, but I did notice even in this the Butcher of Suburbia episode,

they're interviewing a neighbor and it's like, it's so staged.

You know, it's not like, it's not like body cam footage of an interview with the neighbor or whatever.

It's, it's very produced, like after the fact, you know, the woman is like sitting on her couch

and, you know, the lighting and everything.

And it's like, what, why have they done this?

Like, just show us the body cam of the initial interview.

Like, we don't need like the, you know, she's like, oh, she's always such a good neighbor, and she had so many friends.

And I wonder if this and that.

It's like, I don't need to see this.

I feel like at its best, it's just you're pretty much at the station and then with the detectives trying to work out.

Yeah, I think that's all you need.

I don't, you don't need all the shit.

I don't want all this joke shit.

Yeah, yeah.

It is.

I think

the most shocking episode I've seen.

And this show, if you haven't seen it, it's a British show.

It's on Channel 4.

The most shocking episode, I think, was the one where they ran over that guy um and showed the footage of this car hitting this guy who's prone on the ground and just fucking oh was that they they stabbed him first though didn't they yeah so he's prone on the ground he's not dead but then they run him over i i the fact they showed that i was so shocked that's unbelievable this show is genuinely shocking and when you see that like there was a bunch of burglars who just busted into this shop and were attacking people with machetes and stuff there was like there's a honey honeypot killing where these girls seduce this guy, and then this lad comes in and fucking kills him.

It's unbelievable.

Yeah, the shit that happens is crazy.

Oh, it's awful.

But you know what?

There is such a weird amount of glamorizing of crime and violence and the whole gangster thing and the tropes about guns and jewels and doing this bad shit.

But when you look at it, it's so grimy and seedy, and everything around them, their people are so dirty and unpleasant.

And the way they're living, their houses, their clothes, everything is so grubby that you realize there's no glamour here.

And so comment.

You never see Michael Portillo out there.

Well, he was bad-mouthing my bitch, quite frankly.

One had to step in and say something.

And of course, handsome

smackdown on that ass.

The knife just slipped out of one's pocket and into his heart.

And what could one say?

Other than that, no comment.

Unless you wish to discuss trains.

We can talk about trains all day

uh

i watched the uh second part of it last night and we've got a couple more because we were watching um we watched the gold season one and two of the gold which was really good mrs f loved that show yeah it's great really really good

both seasons were were solid really nice really good

um so we were just off the back of watching that and then uh and now we're back into

fuck there's another one i think it's called like murder 24 7 or something on on

one.

I feel like, you know what?

This is why I think this show has taken a while to really get the traction that it should have as being exceptional.

Is that 24 hours in police custody sounds like every other show that's like police interceptors and traffic cops patrol?

Yeah.

Police on the patrol.

It's like they all sound the same, but this one is so far ahead of the rest of them.

It's so much better.

It just suffers from having a dog shit name.

But it's a one.

If you haven't seen it, you're in for a treat.

There's loads of

people.

Never go to Bedfordshire, I'm never going to Bedfordshire.

No, I know, it's all, it's, it's always, uh, it is, a lot of it does seem to take place in and around Bedfordshire.

It's, it's, it's crazy, but, um, I guess

I guess they gotta find like a

place where you know they can embed people because there's a loads of footage.

Like, you can tell that they're just filming everything pretty much.

It's crazy.

It's uh, it's it's well done, though.

It's good.

It's a good show.

But yeah, no, we've got, I think we got like three or four more to watch from this recent sort of season that came out.

It was like six, six or seven episodes, so but they're always fun to just kind of binge through, you know.

It's a great show, yeah, it is a great.

We uh, what do you mean,

like, true crime stuff, but I, I have, I get, I have like a limit to after a while, I just have to like not watch it.

I just finished season three of Scoot Game and I think it's it's shit.

I think I hated it.

What there's a season three?

There's a well, it's it's not really, it's this just a promotional thing.

It was season two, they split speech two into two parts in order to get more in order to drag it out.

Was season two any good?

I thought that at the end of season one, it was kind of done.

Like the you know, I mean, I don't think Squid Game has ever been all that good.

I think it's it's interesting to it, was interesting the first time as an idea, but I think it's it was all right, it was okay, it was all right, and I think they got this whole thing.

I didn't love it, I didn't have to come back for season two in it,

which is awful, yeah, that was awful, and it's so contrived, um, as always, but it's it's it's it's it's just so, and people behave in such insane ways, you know, which is so unbelievable.

And, you know, it really is so odd and just bad.

And I just didn't like it.

I think it just didn't feel at all

believable.

Right.

Any of it, you know, like from the insanely overacted, you know, VIPs in the sort of, you know, above the, above it, to the people running it, to the people in it, to to their behavior to like the people trying to the detectives trying to solve the crime everyone is some absolute caricature written by someone who has no connection to any reality right um and i just think it's it's just it's just i don't know it's i get i is the target audience children because obviously the insane violence implies that it's not but i think that's feels like who it's made for it feels like it's fortnight of television do you know what i mean um god i like that analogy a lot yeah it's it's garbage um

so

successful garbage don't watch squid game i i really regret it uh watch the mr beast version of squid game that's that's the superior one i'm sure nice i read i read some really bad stories about um what it was like working on that show as staff or as a contestant so go and uh do your research and read about that if you wish but uh on the mr beast here squid game Mr.

Beast squid game, there was a couple of I've read a couple of reports of people who worked on it and said it was an absolute shit show and unsafe and blah blah blah.

But that's their opinion.

I'm not repeating it.

I'm not slandering or defaming Mr.

Beast in any way.

I'm just saying go ahead and read it.

It was an interesting piece of potential reality, potential fiction.

I don't know.

Hope that satisfies any lawyers.

Can I tell you guys that the, if you haven't played it, the new Rim World DLC is really good.

It's really funny.

Really?

Yeah.

You get does that surprise you?

I know that they've had a bad one, have it.

Well, the last one from is was all the eldritch horse stuff, which is not really for me.

It's not, I just very hard as well.

I don't, I don't like that kind of stuff typically, so like I didn't bother with it.

But this one is

you,

there's a focus on basically you get like a like a grav jump core that you can build a ship around.

So your base,

you can jump your base around the map.

What?

So you can move the whole base?

Yeah, and it can get quite.

But it needs to be a certain shape and size.

Yeah, it is size limited.

And then, you know, obviously

you can't house 40 people.

I mean, you could eventually.

It can get big.

But to start with, you're kind of like, you know, two, three people in a, you know, but

the whole thing can move.

So you want to get, you know, you want your food preparing stuff and whatever.

But you can just go to any part of the map you want, provided you have enough fuel.

and you can you can reach it and uh you can just land there and just you know live there mine it out, kill all the animals, make some meals, and then on to the next.

A lot of work with Rim World for me.

I just dread thinking about how much.

Well, it's great.

It is really good.

If you like Rim World and you want to.

I'll be honest with you, though, I think it's easier for us to do it as people who are streaming it because it's long form content.

The people get invested in the characters.

I always name the characters after people in chat.

And it's just like, it's a nice background thing.

But playing it alone, I wouldn't bother.

It's just too much work, it is and just silently plugging away at something that's like I was really obsessed with it, you know, I was up till 4 a.m.

playing this for ages, and I cannot bring myself to

put that much effort in again because it all went wrong at some point.

It always

recover from when it goes wrong is when it's the best, though.

As annoying as it is,

you know, you gotta, you, it's a roll with the punches game, you know, and then

it's never, you know, it's never the same playthrough twice.

So it's, it's great.

It's just, it's like, it's a, it is a content generator, it's a story generator, isn't it?

It's just, it's so well done.

Uh, but yeah, I've been playing that.

And before that, I played a whole bunch of two-point museum, which I loved surprisingly, because I mean, I like the two-point games enough, but I always sort of see them as like not being, having like, uh, you know, enough depth and stuff.

But two-point museum is great.

You just like unlock the game as you go.

And there's a surprising amount of depth to it.

It's great.

It's really fun.

There's a new DLC as well.

Did you see that?

That's right.

Yeah.

So like an interesting little fantasy.

It's like

new panel.

The expeditions are more like

a Final Fantasy team sort of thing that you send off.

You have a wizard and a rogue and a knight and stuff like that.

So there's like, there's a whole new sort of mechanic for expeditions and stuff around that stuff.

Seems kind of cool.

That's fun.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's nice.

Well, that is our podcast for today.

Thank you for listening, everyone.

I need a quick Pidgey update for people.

I've stopped feeding them.

Oh,

it got out of control.

It wasn't just the Mr.

and Mrs.

Pidgey.

It was like eight Pidgeys every morning.

They were flying in the window every time I forgot to put seed out.

I've had to stop.

I haven't fed them for over a week.

And now Mr.

and Mrs.

Pidgey just sit on the windowsill and hang out and groom each other and then leave.

It's just a safe space for them, but none of the other pidgies come.

And I'm quite frankly, I'm glad of that.

I should never have started this, I thought it was a sweet thing.

I realized this was

my own folly.

My own piggy cycle has come to an end.

Lesson learned this is so funny, dude.

Bird table, bird table.

The seed goes on the table, they can fight it out over there.

But at the moment, uh, I realize the folly of my error of my ways.

I apologize to the pidgey-loving community, but no more feeding the pigeons from the window.

You can't, you can't let them in.

This is so fucking good.

We had a baby seagull in our backyard because

it is seagull baby having season.

Five o'clock in the morning, every morning.

It sounds like a war zone outside my house.

Yeah, they're all on the roof.

Can I tell you, I had a slice of quiche

and I was eating it on the harbor side.

Nice with Michael Portillo.

And as soon as I got out.

It was vegan quiche.

As soon as I got it out,

I felt this movement and a a seagull came down, and it had took a huge chunk out of the center of this key

and it ran away.

And I was sort of shocked, I was stuck there, and then another seagull came for it as well.

And I was like, oh my God.

And so

I had it in my hand.

And as soon as I would get it out, all the seagulls would like turn their heads to me.

It was like I was in a horror movie.

And they would just fly at me, like for real.

And I couldn't, it was, it was immediate.

So I started like walking away.

And so I walked around the harbor and I realized that those same seagulls had been, were following me.

They knew that I was waiting for an opportunity to get the bit of quiche out and have a little snack as I was walking because they were like hunting me.

They knew I had, they'd had a taste of it.

And they were like, this is some good quiche.

And they wanted that fucking quiche.

But remember, last week we were mocking people who were complaining about aggressive seagulls.

The karma of the Trifles podcast immediately got me.

We tend to be

thinking of a seagull attack.

As as very, very minor powers.

We should be very careful.

I get emails all the time pointing out things that we suggested that have come to pass.

But that's for a mailbag episode.

This is not a mailbag episode.

So let's wrap it up.

Let's wrap it up.

Thank you, everyone.

We'll see you next time.

Okay, thanks, Maria.

Adieu.

Adieu.

Adieu.