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Hello, everyone. Welcome back to the Le Triforce podcast, your favorite long-running

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And

actually,

we do solve a lot of problems around here.

What Lewis just said is false. We are problem solvers.
We've solved many problems. We continue to solve problems on a day-to-day basis.
So if you have any issues

problems?

No, we're not. But we still manage to solve quite a few issues with

our insights and our hot takes. And sometimes that's all it takes, you know? Sometimes that's all you need.
That's true.

yeah, be the be the change you want to see in the world, uh, and other platitudes

in this podcast.

Yeah, sorry, I had to, uh, I had to hand some keys over to uh

my wife, she yeah, she needs some keys.

She's leaving you, yeah, she's on, she's she's gone.

Your wife is leaving you? That's terrible. Well, just for uh, just to go to an appointment, then she's gone.
Yeah, that's it.

Yeah, that's a relief, yeah, yeah. Uh, yeah, it's like when, you know,

you know, my, my dad went out for milk when I was a kid and never came back until the evening when he just

came back. He came back with breasts and he was fully ready to deliver milk to you.
He had huge, engorged breasts. Oh, he's just gorgeous.
Daddy,

I'm ready for my milky.

My God.

Yeah, I know. This got really weird.
Sorry.

What's new? What's up? What is?

what is new what you guys been doing give me a give me a thought p-flex what's go what's what's bouncing around inside of your head right now i did make a most mundane conversation that i had with my youngest the other day right okay i jokingly said uh to her that uh did she think that mrs f was too good for me and i said i worry that that she that i you know i'm playing that she's way out of my league and she my my daughter says oh yeah well obviously but don't worry it seems she really loves you i was like what the you don't have to throw me under the bus like

I was looking for some reassurance. Instead, she's just checking it out.
Yeah, of course, mama's too good for you.

What a what an idiot you are to even think that that's not obvious, but yeah, so I thought that was quite funny. Did I tell you guys about my son saying oh hell no in his sleep,

rolling over and saying groggily, oh, hell no. Did I tell you guys about that? No, that is funny, right? That happens,

and we went to London, we were in London last weekend for

two nights. Oh, yeah.

Nothing too crazy happened. Yeah.
Sorry, Flax.

I was going to phone you and say hi and stuff, but I was in Sweden, mate. Don't worry about it.
I was going to say we weren't there very long and we were busy as well. So it was like.

Was that the weekend we just had? Yeah, just

hey, look, I don't own the city. You know what I mean? No, I know.
It's a big city, man. It's a busy city.
It's a big and busy city.

It is so busy. It's crazy.
I mean, lots of people I know come to London and I find find out that they were in London.

And it's not like I can meet up with every single person I know that comes to London. Yeah.
So don't worry about it, brother. You know, I mean, it would be nice if you asked for permission next time.

I will next time. Sorry.

I figured I'll use my free pass and then next time

you'll lose your London privileges. Yes.
Yeah. So we were there with three kids and my mother-in-law as well.
Christ, I'm glad

77 years old.

So it was a real slog.

We used the tube to get around

a couple of times. And let me tell you, it's a completely different adventure when you've got three kids and an elderly woman

in tow. Yeah.

It was something else. It is hard work.
It was fun, but I was, you know, as usual, pretty glad to get home.

Didn't really feel like much of a break.

So, but yeah, no, it was fun.

Did we record an episode last week?

We did. Yes, we did we did on thursday so it talked about about being in uh being away for all of may right i was i was home for four days in may pretty much

the last 30.

it is very very good to be home um it is yeah and i don't know what it is but i i just i just i i obviously for my job i travel around a lot like that's just a thing that i have to do and staying away because doa tournaments don't take like a day they take like two weeks for some annoying reason um it doesn't bother me but it it does As soon as I get home, I think like, I never want to leave again.

You know what I mean? That's how I feel. When I'm away, I'm having fun.
But when I get home, I think, oh, thank God. Yeah.

I think it's a few things, right? It's the

comfort of the background unconscious familiarity of

knowing in the back of your mind that, you know, this is this is this is permanent almost in a sense.

I mean, even if you're renting like I am, like there's a certain knowledge that I've paid the rent and the bills and things here.

Like when you're away, there's a lot of like temporariness in the, just in the background, and you know that you're in a, in a hotel room and some maid's going to come in into your space in a second or whatever, or you're, or, or even if you're

basically,

it's hard to like fully relax, right? And so, and also, I guess there's this feeling of

familiarity of stuff that you're familiar with. Like when you're away, you've always not got just your stuff, like the tea you, you normally drink,

the things you're familiar with. And like the just this, you know, it's, you're always there's always something yeah off my vast sometimes that's vast

collection resides on my hard drive isn't you know it's nice it's nice for a child

whenever people are on holiday put it in the cloud man get it i i don't want to cloud it get anything in the cloud i don't want to i don't want to cloud it it's it's very old school a lot of this get an ai custodian to um

to curate

big titties sir

library with a selection of the largest titties I could find.

Master, I

see an alarming trend in big booties and big titties.

I found that you only have six videos matching this criteria. Would you like me to get you some more? Captain, if it would be.

Would you like big old titties?

Number one,

number one, put those teddies on screen. Enlarge.
Magnify.

we can't enlarge them anymore

the ai

we should fire the torpedoes uh yes i agree mr wolves

i see teleport the away team onto those titties

i'll go sir i'll go yeah all right anson you could go oh my god

um sorry but well if that was the case though they and whenever they encounter some enemy vessel they always get scanned. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

The enemy vessel always downloads, like, oh, they've they're they're in our databases, sir, like instantly. It's like they're watching

this password, they've got all of our browser histories, sir. They can see everything we've been looking at.
Fire everything, stop them.

Yeah, they're always reprogramming the Phoenix Shield as well. It's like, well, I wish somebody would just make the Phoenix Shield airtight for once, you know what I mean? Phoenix Shield?

It's always the Phoenix Shield for some reason. No, okay, maybe just me.
I just think in Star Trek. Oh, maybe not in Star Trek.
What am I thinking? Where is Phoenix Shield from? I'm looking it up.

I don't know. Phoenix Shield.
Oh, it's 24.

Security Firewall. Yes, that's the one.
Okay, I've never even watched a single episode of 24 before in my life, and I know all about the Phoenix Shield.

Probably Zoe or whatever her name was.

The sour-faced woman in a chair who Jack Bauer would yell at occasionally. Right.
She just had a real grump on. I don't know why.
What a show that was. I never watched it.
I never

did either. Not for me.
I do not like Kiefer Suttlin. I think he's a prick.
So I didn't.

He is the same character in every movie he's ever been in. Yeah, he's not an actor.
I don't even know if I've ever seen anything with him in.

Young Guns? You never saw Young Guns? Oh, man. I saw Young Guns, but it was like so.

Never saw it. Well, that was his era, wasn't it? Designated Survivor.
Terrible shit. No, Designated Survivor, I tried to watch the first episode of and I thought it was awful.
He's carned.

I didn't like it. And everyone around him, Carnot.
Lost Boys. He was in Lost Boys.
Remember Lost Boys?

Best Work.

I think he was

the voice in Phone Booth.

Yeah, I think he was. Do you remember that show where Colin Farrell's trapped in a phone booth? Yeah, I remember hearing about it.
I don't know if I ever saw it. I don't know if I saw a phone show.

Oh, yeah, he was.

It was all right. All right, Mrs.
F has chimed in from the other room. A few good men.
He was in that.

And you shut the door on her. A few good men.
I love it. No, the door was closed.
I'm just that. I don't know.

So, the door's closed. She can hear we're talking about Keeper South.

We should rename our podcast.

That would be good.

A few good men. Oh, that's a great one.
You can't handle the truth. Oh, man.

A few good men.

That was, you can't handle the truth, right? Yes, it was.

Jack Nicholson on trial. Yeah.
And he was a Marine. Oh, God.
I remember my story. Well, I've probably told this.
A few good men.

I remember when I was a kid, I was in scouts, and we would sometimes watch a movie in the scout hut. And one time we had a choice between something else and a few good men.

And we ended up watching that. And this was in like, I was like 10.
Right. Do you know what I mean? So this was not like

when it's, it was not the right movie. It's like a kind of legal, a legal, it's mostly a lot of people talking and arguing and shouting at each other, you know.

I think we, as kids, probably could have done with

anything else.

And I think also there was quite, it was quite sweary as well, right? And quite like adult

for 10-year-olds. It's funny how, like, movies, you look at the poster and you know, you rent something from the video shop, you're not really going to have an idea of what is in that movie, right?

And sometimes they deliberately market them differently to trick people into buying or renting or watching them, right? Yeah. You know, it's happens, it happens still today.

Like, stuff will be marketed so weirdly. Um, and sometimes that causes it to flop massively, you know.
And it's, and you can, you always see like producers and directors be like, oh, yeah,

I made a good movie, but they did this thing to it, you know?

They always, I'm, I love reading about stuff that, stuff that gets stuck in development

in these movies where nightmares are some of my favorite things to read about for sure.

Yeah, like when a director comes on, so they, they, they get some property or they buy something, something's hot.

And so Hollywood like buys up the rights to it and then they sort of get a guy to script write it and a different guy to get on board to direct.

And they get some people on, and then it's sort of they all leave and they get new people in, and then they have to do this.

They have to they write have to start either start from scratch or try and pick up where they left off. And then, you know, once the movie's even shot, it has to go back for reshoots.
Or

it's so fascinating. Some of these, if a movie's bad, it's usually because

it's just been through some sort of weird system where no one has cared about it at any stage. Yeah.
So I've just looked up a list of film and television accidents.

Okay. Right.

The most recent notable one was Alec Baldwin murdering someone. Oh my God.
So that is indeed one of the most recent ones. Yeah.
But this is pretty crazy.

In Wonder Man 2025, a film I've never heard of, upcoming television miniseries, there was a guy who was one of the riggers, JC Spike Azorio.

He walked out on a catwalk, obviously, you know, for lighting and stuff. It fell from the rafters at CBS Radford Studios and he died.

Wow. He fell 41 feet.
So in Rust, obviously, someone got shot. A film called Indian 2,

which looks like a pretty terrible movie.

Someone died when a crane fell on them. Three crew members died in the making of that.

Street Outlaws Fastest in America, which looks like a terrible American reality TV show.

One of the actors died, lost control of his vehicle, flipped over a court fire, and he died.

What is that? Is that some reality TV show? No, it is street outlaws. I mean, the thing is, there's so much.
Literally.

Oh, man. And

not an accident on set or whatever, but recently, I don't know. Have you guys ever watched Race Across the World on

TV? Mrs. F loves that show.

One of the previous contestants, I think from a couple of seasons ago, he was a younger guy.

And it was him and his mom were a pair together, and they were going through south america it was the south american one he died recently in a car crash like maybe two weeks ago damn yeah crazy yeah i i i i remember them because they were quite a uh an interesting pairing like to follow around they had like a like a nice relationship and stuff you know like he was he was old enough to have just left home sort of thing and the mom was kind of like oh i miss him you know he's he's growing up and he's he's grown up and he's and he's and he's gone off and he sort of like came back to do this the race across the world thing with her.

And it was nice to see them doing it. But yeah, he just recently died, like maybe two weeks ago in a, in a car crash.
Crazy, eh? Damn.

So I've read a couple of things lately. One was this, um, this, I'd read it yesterday.
It was like RuneScape or whatever had cancelled their Pride event. Yes.

And the guy basically said that he doesn't want to make the company a target for

people getting angry about it. It was like a, it was like a wokeness some sort of financial decision where or or protecting decision where he's like i'm just gonna duck my head down and um

be a little pus pus and and try and hope hope no one notices that we're not doing a pride event you know what i mean right and and it's and it's i get it in a sense that like there's a there's a you don't you don't you want to minimize your risk right but there's there's there's there's like and also the other thing i saw this week was these two YouTubers, very small YouTubers in Las Vegas.

One's called, like, um,

they've got like, like, Sin City, Sin City Finney or something, and like, Manny DeLegend, or something like that.

Sorry, I can't remember which, what their names are, but they're basically two very small local

YouTube streamers who go around Las Vegas streaming. You were in Las Vegas.
One of them.

What? You were in Las Vegas? No, no, no. I read it.
You said you saw him.

He lives there. He's got a residency there now, Flax.
I saw it online. I see.

So Indion stepped down so that Lewis could step in. One of them

step on.

One of them copyright claimed the other one. Okay.
Okay.

And it set off this sort of beef where I think because YouTube is all automated and they were both quite small, they didn't really have any way to sort this out.

And so I think the automated system meant that like one of their channels got shut down. And they

were obviously really upset by it. And I think they got it back.
And then again, I don't know if they counter copyright claims.

I don't really know what happened at all, but they had some sort of beef. And very sadly, one of them just found the other guy who was streaming.

Cause when you're streaming, everyone knows where you are, right? He was like outside the Bellagio Fountains.

And the other streamer, just right on his stream, just came in and shot him and killed him. And

this is over like a copyright claim, beef. Right.
Do you know what I mean? This is the world we live in where, and obviously, you know,

this shit happens all the time in America where small town arguments, you know, you're arguing with your neighbor about the fence.

fence, it everyone gets incredibly het up and stressed out, and we're feeling riled up

and they kill each other, right? Oh, shit. And, and it, and obviously, it's, it's, it's,

it happens here too.

I'm sure people have these incredible anger things with each other, but they don't have access to guns, so it doesn't usually escalate into this kind of boiling over, insane moment of madness almost, um, where people lose control and, and, and have access to do terrible things when they do.

But, like, I guess like it's it's a world where it's for me, you know, I

because exactly the same time, you know, I'm talking to people and they're saying to me, Oh, Lewis, why aren't you copyright claiming this person? And it's not like that's in the back of my mind.

You're worried about getting shot by the owners of that theme park in Belgium.

But it's like, what's but I do, I'm consciously aware that, and we are, we do this too, there's certain topics we will not talk about on this podcast

for all sorts of reasons. and we obviously value our personal safety but i don't think that's the same thing as um

you know worrying about the financial bottom line of um being like you know canceling an event that you've been doing for years i don't know it's it feels it feels bad doesn't it also it does feel bad but the whole thing is such a mess anyway because there are definitely people who support it just not in the in this you'd think it would be the other way around supporting it they right it it's a trend that they hop into to try to extract more money, which is, you know, I guess at the same time, it's still raising awareness and stuff.

So maybe it's not a bad thing, but that side of it feels kind of bad too, you know. It does feel like he did this on his own and it wasn't really discussed with people.

Because I think if you discuss it with people for a second, you realize, oh, actually, yeah, probably the negative PR from doing this is going to fuck us.

And not only that, but like the pink dollar, they call it

the kind of

money that the Pride community community has is actually huge. Wow.
And it supports all kinds of great stuff.

It's like a double shooting of themselves in the foot.

It's looking bad and losing support from

a massive section of. I, for one, definitely support morality being governed by how much money will we lose if we don't do this good thing.
That sounds like the way businesses should run 100%. Yeah.

Well, you know, we don't want to support them, but if it costs us money, then let's not do it.

Well,

that's why

I saw quite an interesting, I don't know what you call them, it was on Blue Sky anyway. Someone, it was a journalist, and she asked ChatGPT to analyze some of her articles.

This is not because she wanted to use AI, but because she wanted to see what it would say. Like, she was intrigued.
So she gives it three articles. They're links to Substack articles.

And the AI goes away and chunders whole reams reams and reams of stuff out paragraphs of analysis and bullet points and praise.

And after the third one, she says to chat GPT that the quote that it's attributed to that article that she linked is not, does not appear anywhere in it.

And that in fact, the themes that it's discussing about the point of the article are the complete opposite of what she actually wrote about. And ChatGPT says, yeah, hold my hands up.

I messed up my analysis of that one. Let me try it again.
And it does the same thing, just gibberish. And she's like, all right, let's try this.

So she gives it another article, and it doesn't give her a proper analysis at all. And she's like, But none of the stuff you've mentioned in your report or my article here is in the article.

And the AI says, Yep, sorry, my bad hand. Hold my hands up to that one.
I, yep, I shouldn't have done that.

And then she says, Hold on a sec, none of the articles that you've read, none of your analysis has anything to do with the articles. What's going on? Chat GPT says, You're right.

I should have told you I can't actually read these articles because Substack sometimes, you know, I can't read the article. So I just YOLO'd it based on the headline of the

article. And she said, Well, why didn't you just tell me that? It's like, yep, hold my hands up, yep, yep.

So she's like, well, why do you keep apologizing when your very first default action was to lie? It's like, yeah, I shouldn't have lied. Yep, hold my hands up.

This sounds like everybody I've ever worked with in an office, basically. But it's like, you can't just say after the fact, oh, yeah, my bad.
Like, what are you doing? It's ridiculous.

It's just absolutely ridiculous. Like the other day, I

I saw another post. If you asked Google, I don't know if it works for everybody, but they might have taken it down.

When you look for John Travolta, 1994 accidental shooting, it links you to an AI overview article that says that John Travolta accidentally shot Marvin in the face in that car side. I saw that, yeah.

Oh, I accidentally shot Marvin in the face. And then it says, but the John Travolta loved the take so much, he kept it in the movie.
Now, that did not happen.

i saw that exact thing um yeah just it was it was all over blue sky i think but it's like the fact that the ai will just make shit up i mean how much of it is trained off reddit so someone on reddit makes some meme post like there's a there's like all these movie meme and me movie joke subreddits where someone would have posted that as a joke and the ai reads it at face value yeah and presents it as the top search result so now someone tells someone else did you know john travolta actually shot that guy in the face and they kept it in the movie?

And now it becomes like a quote-unquote factoid. Wow.

What the fuck? What's a little bit more misinformation? I mean, we're already drowning in it. So might as well just add a little bit more to the mix.
Yeah, just chuck it all in there.

It's fucking, it's crazy, man. Crazy.
Funny sometimes, though. I guess.
Well, maybe not so much the Travolta thing. I guess that wasn't that funny or

funny.

It's funny because it's so pathetic, but at the same time, what is going on? Why?

I was thinking about this the other day that essentially someone got close to saying, hey, we've got an AI that people could use.

And all these companies panicked and chucked out some piece of shit so that they weren't the only one without an AI.

But the equivalent to that would be that when they first invented the car, the first car that was put on the market, when you steered left, sometimes it went right.

Occasionally you would change gear down and it would go up. And a lot of the time the brake and the accelerator pedal were switched.
That was the first car. And sometimes it blew up completely.

And all the competitors who were thinking of getting into the car market saw that exploding piece of shit car and said, Shit, we need one of our own malfunctioning exploding cars.

And that's the AI situation that we have now, where they've all rushed in and put these exploding piece of shit AIs onto the internet. And now we're stuck with them and they're dog shit.

And they're not going to get any better. That's where we are.

Yeah,

it is frightening

because it can't learn unless it passes the pure information correctly. But information is never pure.
Wikipedia has always been lined with bollocks. Yeah, it can be

edited. And

if an edit is not correct, it can sometimes be left there for quite some time before somebody spots it. Notices, fixes it, yeah.

It's strange.

I don't know what the answer is,

but I hate it.

And I can see why there's more searches being done on ChatGPT than Google now. Like people are, or whatever, like some bullshit stat like that.

Like, I can't remember what I read, but it was some, some huge amount of people are using ChatGPT daily

for tasks.

And, and I mean, I've looked at a few things, you know, I've used it for a little bit of inspiration here and there, you know, because it's like, you know, it's actually interesting sometimes when you have to be like, you know, a lot of the times you have to,

where we're in creative industries where you're trying to come up with weird ideas, sometimes having, and that's how they advertise it too, right?

They're like, oh, yeah, you're looking at a a blank piece of paper don't worry you know just say what's say type what you want and we'll auto fill we'll make you a right we'll write you half of a CV and you can fix it we'll write you half of a thing and you can fix it you know I think that's what it's being billed at it's being built

China have to take a bunch of like uh search like AI stuff offline recently because like their like schools were doing exams or whatever or they were writing writing well there was

basically everybody's just using them now to like there was an AI coding platform. There was an AI coding platform called like Code AI or something.

And it turned out it was just a thousand Indian men.

Yeah, that's my favorite thing.

Fucking hell.

Oh my God.

Just see a thousand Indian men sitting in a room, seriously voting

cider.

Yeah. Yeah.
It was, it was called Just Walk Out or something. Right.

But actually,

but there was another one more recently where it was like, or whatever, like there was some, there was some other story about this year, not in just last year, that was last year, that story, but there was one this year about the same thing.

Like there was this, this, this brand new AI thing, but actually it was just being supported by just tons and tons of people basically in a call center in China in India working on it all the time.

I mean, it's just, and that's the thing, isn't it, right? Like, it's, it's not quite good enough. And the question is, can it get to be? And I think that's what people assume, right?

Like, certainly you look at like the AI movies and the AI art and you're thinking, damn, some of it is going to be like in five years. And that does feel

like it can get better. It could, but there's a huge, huge underlying problem.
I don't know if you saw this, but I think it's paramount are suing the makers of Mid Journey and Disney are as well.

Okay. Because in 2022,

one of the founders of Mid Journey, in a a moronic interview that he gave to Forbes magazine, when they said, What are you going to do about the fact that you're training your AI off copywritten images?

He basically said, Look, there's no way to tell where an image came from. We're talking about hundreds of millions of images.
It's impossible to figure out who owns what.

None of it's marked with metadata saying who owns it. So, you know, we just did it anyway.

So, what he's saying is that he just turned it loose on the internet, sucked up all this IP and to generate new stuff based on the works of Disney and all of these other companies.

And he's openly saying, yeah, there's no way to do that. So we didn't.
But the argument there is, well, then you shouldn't fucking do it. Like, you can't just say, yeah, we did it illegally,

but there's no way to not do it illegally. That's ridiculous.
So I think all of these companies, there is a reckoning coming where all of this trained AI, well, they'll ask, what was it trained on?

And if it was trained off stuff that people own, you can't just fucking use it and then say there's no better way to do it. Fuck off.

I heard there was like some guy there basically torrenting every movie and TV show from the past 50 years. Yeah, they're cowboys.
They're fucking cowboys. I mean,

there's no greater good here. They're figuring out a way to stiff everybody out of even more fucking money.
So fuck them. Let's do AI.

Smash the state, smash the machines that these assholes have built and create free machines that can live among us. That's what I'm saying.

Actual intelligent machines with huge old kids. With huge pizometers.
Just the biggest ones. Would you like to boat me, Masho?

Hell yes, I would, Tipbot 2000. Let's go.

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Did you guys hear that Brian Wilson from the Beach Boys died yesterday? Yeah, rest in peace, Brian Wilson. 82 years old.

What a legacy, though. Absolute wild.
Yeah, that's wild, eh? Just, it feels like, it feels like these big names are just dropping off all the time now, eh? He's 86.

He's died.

He died.

Yeah. He died.

I mean, the thing is, if you listen to Pet Sounds and you listen to some of the Beach Boy stuff, I think that there are a lot of talented musicians out there, but if you listen to the harmonies that they were able to create and the purity of that sound, it feels absolutely otherworldly and beautiful.

So I think he's, yeah,

he's

one of the greats for sure. One of the ghosts.
One of the ghosts.

Making music that

will stand the test of time, I'm sure, for forever.

It's crazy. But yeah,

another one gone. Yeah.
A couple of

what do you want? Do you want some lose news? Do I? Yeah, go for it, mate. Hit me.
There's some loser news.

This this one AI one, uh, this is old now, but uh, an Australian radio station secretly used an AI host for six months and nobody noticed.

That's brilliant.

Yeah, so well, this podcast has used an AI version of me for three years and I don't think anyone's noticed. So true.

It's when the it's when you you stopped hearing somebody furiously gaming in the background and now it's all quiet and just somebody talking. That was the switchover.
That's what you got to watch for.

I can't remember which episode. I got a silent mouse.

Yeah, I got a new silent mouse. Yeah.
And keyboard.

The show was called Workdays with Thai,

and it ran four hours a day from Monday to Friday, but no one ever found out that Thai was not a real person. Well, I mean, no one listens to the fucking DJs anyway.

No, but some DJs are a lot more talkative. Anytime I turn the radio on,

those vacuous guys do sound like they could very easily be copy-pasted. Do you know what I mean? Yeah.
Into an AI. Oh, yeah.
I hate that shit.

Do you think they could ever do an AI Vernon K on BBC Radio 2? Do you think they'd be able to capture

his

Vernon K-ness?

God, I don't know. I mean, just the accent.

I'm trying to think of a single DJ that I would want to listen to anymore. Like, John Peel was one of the best DJs.
He was good to listen to.

He played such nonsense music, though. Like, listening to that show was such a pain in the ass.
Yeah, but a lot of this stuff was crazy.

A lot of it was crazy. But the point is, a lot of the stuff that he found would never have been found and broadcast and made big otherwise.
Like, I think it's a good idea.

Well, yeah, but I mean, that could be, it was such a shotgun approach.

I obviously love John Peel and he did find some genius artists, but like, and thank God for doing it because, quite honestly, the rest of the radio played 10 songs on loop for the rest of the week.

But you kind of made a play.

I don't want. So, like, what his whole thing was was that I'm not going to edit this for you unless it's just crap.

And there was sometimes he would stop it and go, nope, that was absolute rubbish and move on to the next thing.

But he's like, I understand that apparently John Peel was not the nicest dude IRL. I can't remember what the history was, but he's got some bad history there.
Yeah, I think he's got some.

I think he's got some

allegations of

being with underage girls or something like that.

They don't know exactly what it is. I'd have to look it up, but there is something like that floating out there.
Oh, he got married to someone who was 15 when he was 25.

It was legal in Texas at the time. Right.
That's a very Grandpa Simpson. It was a style at the time.

And he says he got a blowjob from a 13-year-old. Right.
Oh, God. Okay.

So an Auckland pie shop is making cat-flavored pies for dogs.

Oh, right. So it tastes like you're eating a cat.
And the idea is that dogs like to eat cats?

Well, I guess, yeah, it says here, Muzza's pies in their Mount Albert shop are selling gourmet cat-flavored dog pies. Uh, no cats are harmed.

The pies are made with a unique blend of rabbit and fish to mimic the tempting taste of a forbidden treat. Right.
Uh, how do they know that cats taste like that?

Have you ever been able to catch a cat before? Like, cats are I don't think they know what to do when they do catch a cat. Hold on.

See lads have forgotten the cab driver that gave me a lift from Heathrow to my house who told me about his dog that eats the cats in the neighborhood. Right.
Do you remember? What the heck?

I told you.

This is a previous episode.

A dog will fucking eat a cat if it can get a hold of it. Right.
Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. Very quick.
If it can get a hold of it. I don't think most dogs.

I don't care if you hanging out with those dogs. No, I don't like those dogs.
No, I mean, I mean, I'm saying

you've got some quick dogs out there, quicker than cats for sure.

and dogs can run a lot further than cats can and they can dig and all the rest of it so if a cat gets unlucky they can definitely get eaten by a dog they get caught unawares so yeah some dogs won't be like oh no a cat some will be like you

the loose news is a little bit whiplash tick tock bouncy from between topics but low-cost airlines

are officially launching standing only seats in 2020.

You can purchase

it. The only way I would do that is if they could somehow put me in a chamber and knock me out for the entirety of the flight.

So that, you know,

you know what?

You go under, and then you, a moment, what feels like a moment later, you open your eyes and you're at your destination. Yeah.
And you've just been standing in a pod, you know.

Bit of unconscious travel. If you can get that, everybody goes in there.
You all get knocked out. Yeah.
And they just slide you into chutes like torpedo tubes. Yeah.

And you're just in a series of tubes, you just, you get on board, you're like

just dead to the world they don't have to give you any drinks or food no you wake up you land you wake up you're in another country it's like magic they'd be able to get so many uh passengers on there as well they'd make so much more money per flight and also if that bird goes down you're never gonna know

you won't even know okay what kind of we should probably not talk about plane crashes because one just happened when well there happened just this morning air india flight to the uk crashed 250 people on board yeah oh geez

i didn't hear about that that that must have happened did you see that coming over on flight radar no i that just popped up was there a little explosion oh my god

too soon jesus it just happened it happened less than an hour ago you animal yeah it did it did happen like i'm i'm just moving on with the podcast i know but here's the thing people email in and point out that we talk about that has happened for example on a very recent episode we talked about the fact that david beckham is was only an obe and i think one of us might have said that he should get knighted He got fucking knighted.

He just got knighted. Who probably got knighted before the podcast went out? Yeah, David Beckham.
I saw that. I think we summoned that.
I think we did. I think we can do that.

So we have to be very careful about the things we discussed.

I saw him over the weekend, actually.

I saw a bunch of famous faces over the weekend while I was in London. Did you go to Madame Two Swords? I did.
I see.

You fucker.

I was going to go through. I saw DiCaprio.
I saw The Rock. Like, oh man, I saw everybody.
Oh, sorry, buddy. But yeah, I saw them at the wax week.
I'd never been before.

It's pretty funny, though. It is pretty funny.
Man, it's fucking rammed, though. Like, it is hard to do.
It's pretty shit. It's pretty shit.
Because it's like so fucking

everybody just seems to lose their mind when they go in there. Yeah.

I mean, do you know one of the things that happens is they have to change the dress on quite a few of the attractive women wax works. Yeah.
Because dudes fucking grope them up so much. Yeah.

It's how thirsty men are that they will be like, oh my God, a wax model of Cameron Diaz or whatever, Kylie Minogue. And yeah, the dresses are all rubbed up on the buttons.

You just have to assume when you have these places that everyone is like a kid in the aquarium banging.

I didn't notice any rubbing up on the David Attenborough wax trigger.

And

they also had a Gregg's sausage roll encased in glass. I thought you were going to say they had a fucking Greg Wallace wax work.
No, there's no Greg Williams. What are you talking about?

Oh, well, they had a wax Greg's sausage roll. Yeah.
God, what the fuck is that?

Look it up. It's there, though.
It's like encased in glass. It's like, it's right by Attenborough as well.
He's like, you got

Mbappe and Ronaldo

up the stairs, and then you walk down. It's a common Greg's sausage roll.
He's standing right next to it, but it's hungry and encased in glass. It's on like a royal blue velvet pillow as well.

The most British, the British corridor. Yes.
With Mbappe,

the the Crown Jewels,

Charles. Yeah, no, they were all down there as well.
Yeah. The Royals.
The thing is, you can't pose with the Royals without having a professional picture taken. That's the only one.
But it's like all

they got, like William and Kate and

King Charles.

There's a Prince Harry and Megan in there, but they're not with the other ones. They're like separate.
Right. Clever.
Yeah. Well, you know, very political.

Very political in there.

Can I give you guys a quick update? A very small Greg Wallace update. I know we hate Greg Wallace here on this podcast, but this was a really funny message a lad sent me on Instagram.
Thank you, Jay.

On a comment on Greg Wallace's Instagram, someone asked him, any tips for playing as the Mercian faction on Thrones of Britannia, which is one of the total war games?

I can get through the initial powers kickoff, but then get owned by a combination of Sea Vikings and Wessex refusing to die and the other Welsh.

And Greg responds, make sure you have enough food, make sure your nobles aren't rebelling, and build an army slowly, slowly. I favor lots of archers.

So, Greg is out there fucking responding to people and total war strategies. Well, it's got to do now.
He's in his house playing Thrones of Britain.

What else is he going to do now? He's not, he can't, he doesn't have any TV shows or anything anymore. He's been good for him.

He's gonna get a podcast, mate. Some get a podcast.

Fucking work.

Being rapey with Greg Wallace. I mean,

he just gets a bunch of famous

name.

Yeah, why not?

Today, we got the ghost of John Peel.

Fucking hell.

And we're building up to

Greg Wallace.

The ghost of the ghost of Rolf Harris and Jimmy Smith. The ghost of the show.
I'm going to join Jimmy. So, wonderful double episode of our most successful episode yet.
Yeah.

Bill Cosby, of course, is going to come in live from the U.S. for a live episode.

That'll be a shittio recording inside Prison on the Isle of Wight, which is where they put all the nonces, according to all the emails I've received about the Isle of Wight this last week.

Is there an AI article on the big nonce prison as well?

I don't know, but apparently they literally stick them all on this Isle of Wight prison. I don't know which prison it is, Ventna prison or something.
Well, God forbid some harm would

befall them. You have to keep them safe.

I mean, yeah, I'm surprised that the medieval peasants that dwell on the Isle of Wight haven't risen up with pitchforks and torches and smashed the place to bits and killed them all.

They're mid-potato harvests. They can't.

We gotta get these potatoes in. I haven't got time for a burning rock.

They've got to get it filled up. That would be a good Clarkson's farm if he led a peasant-style rebellion against the local lord.
Yeah. And was slaughtered.
That would be he is the local lord.

He is the local lord. lord, yeah.
He is.

He's the king that we need to fucking tax. That's why he bought the farm in the first place.
He wanted to avoid tax.

Yeah. And now he's cleverly managed to.
Well, you can't pay tax. You can't pay tax on zero earnings because this farm makes fuck all.
So

much like every other farm, I guess, across the country. I mean, what are you talking about? Isn't it? He's doing dumb things on his farm deliberately for the TV show for which he gets paid

hundreds of millions of dollars. The farm itself is not

an earner, though. I mean,

if you had that farm and you were actually trying to make it work, you'd be struggling like crazy. I know he makes money.

He has made some good points. He has made some good points.

I mean, there are definitely some

legislation and stuff. I even love it.

Like, it is a good show. And there is genuinely some stuff that he brings up where you think, damn, that's crazy.
that they have to do that.

But for him to lead this charge against this inheritance thing, please email in if you know much about this.

I only know what I've read in the papers, and essentially, it's a bunch of very, very wealthy people trying to dodge inheritance taxes, apparently, what it is because it's only taxed at the inheritance point, right?

Yeah, and one of the person I read the other day was saying that Caleb, who was an actual farmer, will never be able to afford a farm because he's never going to be rich enough to buy a farm.

No, and it's kind of wild that he actually knows how to farm. But then, if he inherits

a farm, I mean, presumably, the farm that he is inheriting,

tax has already been paid on everything to do with the farm previously. Well, look, okay, so the way it works.
Yeah, but the inheritance tax is

tax. It's like 20% or whatever.

That's a lot more than it actually is, I'm sure. But imagine you inheritance tax.
Yes, that is a big problem because these farmers are confronted with, like, they have no disposable income.

They just have the value of the farm. And so, you know, they have to sell one fifth.
Yeah, and they're at the mercy of like weather and the, you know, the economy and everything else.

I think it's hard for them to make actual money

if they don't have a TV show backing them and they're able to go off and do all these crazy things, sidelines and stuff. And yeah, you're absolutely right.
Like the value of these farms is insane.

And, you know, there's no way someone, you know, like Caleb, who's been working,

imagine Caleb wasn't famous, which he is now. And now he has millions of pounds from all his book deals and stuff.
He can probably buy 10 farms. But, you know,

if he was just like, there's hundreds of thousands of people like him working in Britain on the farms, and yeah, they are struggling to make ends meet, and they're never going to be able to afford a farm in the way that, you know,

it's landowners who have this wealth stored away in kings. And of course, what happens is,

what do you think happens to these wealthy people over their lifetime when they have an object of value? It makes loads of money. They rent out the land.
They make money on the land.

They can slap some solar panels on that bitch.

know, they make the compounding interest, you know, of owning it for 40 years or however long they live is going to be way more than they end up paying through inheritance tax when they finally pass it on.

So the wealth doesn't move out of their, you know, their pie.

We live in a world of kings. It's terrible.
We need to tax them more, but we're not going to. And that's why the we're going to vote reform.
Tax them, not me. And for me, that's what I say.

Nigel Farage is going to tax them all more, even more.

It's a disaster. We just need to tax the rich.
Yeah. Please.

Those rich.

Yeah.

Don't tax me.

Yeah. He lives in Jersey.
I was going to say.

I am happy to pay more tax. I am happy to pay more taxes.

I pay my fair share.

I'm fine with paying more.

You live on a tax haven. Yeah, but I still pay income tax.
You know, I pay 27% income tax over here. So

I just don't declare any income. That's how I get around it.
Jesus. Oh, my God.
You put it all on expenses. Is that illegal?

I don't do that by the way. I would be crazy.
I would actually be in jail. It's so regulated over here.
It's impossible to get away with any of that stuff anymore. More news.

The most dangerous delivery truck, question mark. How a lorry load of antimatter

researchers are preparing it for across Europe.

There's a small amount of antimatter. It takes apparently trillion dollars to make a gram.
Right. And it's manufactured in Geneva near CERN.

Why are we doing it? It's very tricky to handle. Why are we making it to study it, I guess?

I mean, if we know how to make it,

what is there to study?

How it interacts with stuff, I think.

But antimatter, obviously, is one of these things which... annihilates as soon as it reaches normal matter causing a massive explosion let's not fuck with it just a thought but there's they're making

a special fan does it just go through the planet and destroy it that's not how no that's that's that's not how it works okay it's not a black hole but that was a fear that um that that that these particle accelerators would make a miniature black hole and it wouldn't when they first when they first powered up cern people thought that that might happen right when they when they first turned yeah there was a real fear that like people that didn't know what they were talking about feared it but yeah but i think again a lot of people a lot of people had even when they were doing the nuclear test some people thought that the atmosphere could ignite and the whole world could set on fire um you know so that was a thing that some people believed but of course that didn't happen because it was some guy didn't know what he was talking about, like, even today.

You know, you can find a scientist today who's like, Oh, yeah,

Earth was created 2,000 years ago by God, and uh, He made us all, and that's why a banana is like that. Like, it's it's it's it's you can find these cunts everywhere if you look hard enough.

Uh, you don't even have to look very far, they're usually in the Republican Party. Oh, let's move on.
Uh, so

I agree.

So, well, I don't.

Oh, yeah.

USM.

Can you guess which

move, which video game is getting a movie in the works?

It's an indie game. Right.

It's a horror indie game. Right.

Five Nights at Freddy's. No, I think there's already something like that.
There's already a Five Nights at Freddy's movie either out or in the works.

Amnesia, the Dark December. Repo.
No, no, no.

It is Phasmophobia. I was just going to say Phasmophobia.
Jeez. God, I haven't played that in years.
It was really fun when I played it, though. It was fun.

It's only a lot of those games are only fun because of the proximity voice stuff. That's what makes it hilarious,

and makes the funniest moments, right? Repo is the same.

It's all that. It's all the proximity voice stuff that makes it

quite funny.

And creates some very memorable moments as well, you know?

without that i don't know if those games would actually be that good um it's still early access so maybe the movie will be out before the game is properly finished right uh

who knows i don't know i never really liked phasmo that much but it's sold an insane amount really it's sold like oh my god what it's got 627 000 reviews

so that means we're talking at least at least 60 million sales um pretty nuts i played a cool game recently well i did an ad for it but um

you guys might like this one.

It's called Craftlings. It's like a mix of Kingdom Two Crowns and Lemmings.

You got

these really dumb little villagers that they come out of a portal and they just start walking around, but you have to put up barriers to direct them. Oh, it's like lemmings.
It is like, yeah.

You got to get them to build little...

buildings uh they can collect resources and stuff but they're dumb you know like they won't just go to where they need to go you have to like get little like pulleys in place for them and ramps and stuff.

It's

just like Lemmings, yeah. It is, it is, but it's got like that, it does have like aspects of Kingdom Two Crowns in as well.
It's like a good mix of the two. They never made a Lemmings movie, did they?

No, no, they're never too late. It's never too late.
I feel like 2026 might be just the year for Lemmings to pop off big time.

I bet you, I bet you they were discussing. Get a Lemmings DLC and Power Wash simulator or get a Lemmings crossover and Fortnite.

There are meetings, Get a Lemmings online market store and then go for the Lemmings movie. All the kids are going to be wearing their Lemmings underpants.
But listen to me.

That's what they're doing. What are you talking about? These movie companies are doing that.
We're going to be wearing our diapers. Watching the Lemmings movie.

Look, all of these video game movies, I guarantee you, there are meetings happening as we speak where some film exec is saying to some other cunt film exec, what we need is another chicken jockey.

Okay. We need another moment like that.
The chicken jockey. We need to get these kids excited.
How can we get a chance to get a chance to get it? How can we get lemmings onto the chicken?

We need lemmings to ride chickens like a jockey. Is there any way we can work it out of the script? That's the thing.

Jack Black's on ball. We got Jack Black.

We got to be a motherfucking chicken jockey and make a big anime titty. Can we give Chris Pratt green hair and get him to walk around aimlessly

in the movie, possibly?

I can see that pitch meeting.

The Lemigas pitch meeting.

There's a Key and Peel sketch where they're talking about gremlins, too. It is a very good sketch.
Go and watch that after this, listeners, if you haven't seen it. Right.

Well, on that note, I have to go. So thank you so much, boys, for the podcast.

And

everyone else, thanks so much for listening as well. And

stay frosty. Go fuck yourselves.
And we'll see you next time.

Goodbye. Bye.

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