Triforce #311: The Man of 1,000 Voices

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I have written an intro song.

I've posted it in

the general channel.

Hold on.

Okay.

Okay, ready.

I'm ready.

We're gonna play it.

I'll go three, two, one, and then we'll play, okay?

Okay, okay.

Three, two, one, play.

I have no idea.

Before I put my head in the future reactor, what would happen?

I have no idea.

Before I put my

head in the future,

what would happen?

Okay, I love it.

I love it.

Okay, that laughter over the top of it ruined it a little bit.

Sorry, but oh my God, that wasn't part of it, me and Tips laughing.

It is.

Me and you laughing is in the song.

Oh.

And then we were also laughing.

Oh,

fuck me.

Okay, I need to know more for this because that is hilarious, but go on.

What do you mean?

That's a clip of this previous podcast, right?

No, that is a clip from the live podcast we did and it popped up on my youtube feed and it made me laugh and then um

you decided to put possibly the greatest beat ever together to accompany it i made that little beat yeah it's brilliant honestly nice beat it's so perfect as well it's like the exact question that that people ask isn't it

about everything yeah what would happen if i put my dick in it what would happen if i you know what happens if i accidentally slip it what would happen if i drove my car into it what would happen if i dangled my balls into a black hole it is

it is funny um i don't know why people love to ask those questions but but they do there is of course a subreddit would ask slash stupid questions yeah um but i feel like it this is just people asking questions that they would consider stupid or embarrassing so it's almost like a no wrong answers kind of thing but it's just saying you know go ahead you can ask stupid questions here that's fine it's a safe space for stupidity.

But I feel like there are certain fixed things that people, I don't know if they heard it somewhere or if it is natural human curiosity to think what would happen.

I mean, I'm sure they know it would be bad, but they want to know exactly how it would be bad.

I think that's more the point of the what would happen if I put my head in it question.

If it was like, oh, it would take six months and your brain would fall out, that's interesting.

If it just says your head would instantly explode, that's also interesting.

So I assume, I hope it's that and not them thinking, well, maybe I will.

Hard to say.

Yeah, when we say, why do people ask stupid questions?

I think what I want to know is not, I mean, you shouldn't ever be scared to ask questions.

And a lot of people are unreasonably scared to look stupid, right?

And that's not what I'm saying at all.

Like, don't feel bad that you didn't happen to know the niche reference or the niche thing that someone else is talking about, that you just happen to have missed.

There's plenty of this.

Like, I've got this.

Okay, I hang on one second.

One second.

I'll just

clear it back.

He's gone.

He's left.

I want to take this moment to say, and forgive me for my pronunciation, Chok Mung Nam Moi.

That's Happy New Year to any Vietnamese listeners.

Right.

I wasn't sure where that was going for a second.

It's Tet.

It's Tet.

So Happy Tet.

Enjoy your Tet.

Enjoy your Tet.

Oh, man.

Of course.

Yeah.

I read Maisie.

Maisie celebrates the Chinese Lunar New Year story yesterday because I think it's the Chinese New Year today.

I think it's that I guess the whole of Asia.

I don't know if Japan is in on this as well.

I don't know.

So Chinese New Year is Wednesday, the 29th of January.

So it was yesterday.

Oh, sorry, it was yesterday.

Yeah, Vietnamese New Year was also yesterday.

Oh, my God.

Yes, it's the year of

the

year of the BRAC.

It's BRAC Year.

No, what is it the year?

Oh, shit.

I've forgotten.

Do you want to know?

Yeah.

It's something to do with finance this year chinese new year it is

snake

snake the snake i've looked it up the year of my snake yeah what does that what does that mean i don't know uh well you could also say it's the year of my hog when it gets to 2031.

what would happen if i dip my snake in the chinese new year

um so okay the reason i was asking was because i was i was doing this really sort of pop culturey

um advent calendar over christmas It's like a puzzle game advent calendar.

It's made by this company called Exit, and you've probably seen their stuff in shops because they do tons of them.

And you, it's like an escape room in a box.

Um, anyway, on the back, it's got this load of quotes, right?

Like, you are adopted, Luke, right?

Which is a movie quote from Darth Vader.

It's wrong, you are adopted.

Which movie?

You're adopted, Luke.

No idea what you're talking about.

Well, it's exactly.

It's from

Star Wars.

Star Wars?

I'm your father or whatever.

Never heard of it.

And then there's another one which is Yippie Yahya Foxy Mucker.

Yeah, I know which one is.

What's that a reference to?

Yippee Kai is a motherfucker.

Is that another Star Wars?

From Die Hard.

Never heard of Die Hard.

It's the second film in the Star Wars trilogy.

I know you're joking, P Flax, but the next one is I Carried Half a Watermelon.

That's from Forest Gump.

You remember that?

No, no, no.

The Forest Gump quote is: Life is a sneak preview.

You are never going to know what you are going to get.

Oh.

Sorry, what is this?

This sounds terrible.

There's some fake, there's some like, I don't know.

I think they've done it as a joke, like, to try and avoid copyright, right?

Or something like this.

But they've put a load of silly quotes on the back of this, like, pop culture.

It's like the ever code is about the movie industry, right?

And it's like Hollywood, and you go through and you meet, you know, I see Marvin

McFriend, you know, instead of the rest of them, right?

But this quote is, I carried half a watermelon.

Right.

And I cannot for the life of me figure out which movie it's referencing.

Could it be there will be blood?

I've never seen that movie.

It's a woman who looks like Elaine from Seinfeld with like big poofy hair holding a watermelon.

I carried half a watermelon.

I carried half a watermelon.

And it's like one of these moments where I'm like

dirty dancing.

There you go.

Okay.

I can't believe you didn't know that.

Well,

I didn't know that, right?

Because maybe I've never seen it.

I've never seen it.

I didn't get the reference.

It was actually her saying I carried a watermelon.

But exactly.

There's going to be tons of people

who know what that reference is.

Yeah.

Okay.

And that's not a stupid question to ask.

Okay.

A stupid question to ask is something kind of like...

I guess

it's very selfish to ask about what would happen to me?

Like, what would happen if I did this?

You know, it's a very kind of, it is it is kind of a dumb question.

You don't like it because they're asking what would happen to me if I put my head in there, you think?

Yeah, it's kind of like those stupid questions where people are almost like they set up this ludicrous scenario that couldn't happen, you know, where we do do that quite a bit.

What if my hand was replaced with the sun?

Would you rather put matos or for whipped cheese like that kind of thing?

I hate those.

I hate those.

Fingers were hands and your hands were feet or something right right

yeah like it's it's would you write it's more of a pub thing i would say because it's just you know if you're there and you run out of convos sometimes you'll you'll chuck one of those out there although the game has been completed it's been solved in that the

in that the worst one has been asked and there's no answer to it so i don't know the game is solved like poker and like chess and like go it's solved i i don't mind talking around and discussing interesting scenarios and things or just talking nonsense and crap anyway right i mean that's what I do for a living, but I don't love talking about things like nightmare scenarios.

What if, would you rather all your family died or your partner died?

Right.

Um, do you know what you mean or something like that?

And it's like, it's like those types of questions.

It's like, okay, it's horrible.

It makes you think of two or three or four things.

Yeah, those are, those are like, those ones hit too close.

You don't mind the one where it's like, would you rather walk on all fours for the rest of your life or be able to

do a downwards dog

and walk on all fours for like you know, like the ones that

nonsensical.

I can't think of one off the top right now.

It's funny.

It's funny trying to think of one.

Yeah, yeah.

Would you shit yourself every time you ask a question or you know, piss yourself every time you give an answer?

I don't know.

It's like, yeah, like, give me a bike.

So, yeah, it's um, I mean, do you want to hear the solve one?

The one that literally you can't top this?

Sure.

So I'm not going to say who told me this.

Maybe they don't want to know that this is out there.

This is the one.

Would you rather,

this is as bad as it gets, that you have to molest a child, but no one ever finds out about it.

Or you don't molest a child, but everyone thinks you did.

Oh,

so you don't don't even discuss it.

But that is the conversation ender.

Right.

If you're sick of people asking that,

ask that, and then someone will say, oh, I don't think we should play this game anymore.

So that's how you solve it.

That's the end.

Oh, my God.

It was Tom Clark.

It was Tom Clark.

All right.

He asked me that.

I don't know where he got it from.

And if he came up with it, he told me that.

And I was like, well, that's this game done then.

Thank God.

So yeah, there you go.

Yeah.

Well, that'll do it.

That'll just about do it.

Do you remember the rumor that jokes came from prison?

Have you ever heard this rumor?

No, I haven't.

So there was this old rumor, where do new jokes come from?

And people were like, oh, they all come from prison prison because they're all in there.

They got all that time on their hands.

And they just,

it's like a comedy factory.

Like a writer's room.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I was like, no, they come from comedians.

That's where the jokes come from.

I don't know why, but it's been a common myth that they come from prison.

I don't think they do, but I do think that some of the really bad Woody Rathers might come from prison because they really haven't got much else to do.

Come on.

Apart from defend themselves from jokes.

You think like those nothing comes from the playground.

Do you think those really innocent dad jokes come out of prison or do you think it's like the more hardcore stuff?

I'd love it if there was like a prison somewhere.

Yeah, I would think racist ones rather than just harmless dad jokes.

That would be quite sweet though if the prison environment somehow generated the most

wholesome jokes that you can safely tell

gentle stuff.

Oh man.

Oh my goodness.

Yeah, I've never heard of that

myth before.

I've never heard of myself.

No, me neither.

I love myths, though.

I love these urban myths.

And

we fall for them every day.

I fall for them all the damn time

because

I'm simple and I don't get out of the way.

We are.

I don't get out.

We are simple.

I just don't get out.

I know we don't talk about news too much, but did you hear this week that

a Chinese company came out with an AI?

Yes.

Right.

That obviously went to number one on the app store immediately because it's basically chat GPT, except that it's censored.

And they made it

if I like a button and a shoestring and a

yeah it's like some startup right but it's like this is deep seek you're talking about deep seek yeah so so it's obviously the AI is the future and terrifying right like the idea is that open AI and these companies are spending billions a year to develop these AI learning models which are going to take over the world.

There's already things happening in China like dark factories, right?

Where basically a factory, like when you went to the Thatcher's cider place, P Flax, it just, it's just unmanned, massive, massive industry.

Maybe there's two guys who check it works, you know, and come and a cleaning crew occasionally who come fix something that that breaks.

But most, for most of it, it's just vast,

just industrial, robotized manufacturing, right?

I mean, you know,

the positive is you won't need people to work in this miserable place anymore, but we are obviously going to need a plan.

Where are people going to work though?

They're not.

So someone said the other thing is that

you'll need people to program the machines.

And like I said, that's not a job that everyone can do.

No.

It's really not competition.

And even then, you'd be surprised at how few people it requires.

Yes, exactly.

To do this.

Like, it's like the labor need and the labor.

You are going to need a person to put the sand, the sugar,

the potatoes in at one end and take the bottles of vodka out at the other end.

I mean, that's...

I hope there's nothing

I think that a lot of the saddle is.

My bad.

I think a lot of that stuff can be automated now, too.

Yeah, yeah, no, but that's the point is that you will need

robots.

Someone can just drive them in.

Like, humans will be involved, but if you imagine that the labor pool and the number of jobs is like inverse pyramids approaching towards either a vast pool of people with nothing to do versus a narrowing number of jobs.

That's how it feels.

And

people saying, oh, they said this would happen when cars came in but cars were just better horses it's not like saying we're gonna replace all of these jobs with just one machine like that's different what if what if what if nobody worked what if nobody had to work and nobody worked well no that's the dream that's the utopia is where none of this needs to be done but equally we don't have to pay for uh we'd certainly get given money you'd probably yeah you'd have to be given some some money or or maybe a lot of money, depending on how much.

Well, that's the universal basic income.

That's the idea that everybody gets a fixed amount, basically.

And then, if you do something extra, you can get extra or whatever.

They got to throw in some extras, though, too.

Like,

they're going to give you a universal basic income.

They should just not charge you for like heating, electricity,

water, you know.

And then, so your universal basic income is just for your streaming subscriptions and a couple of extra skins here and there in games every month.

But all the basics are paid for.

Everything else is

Pokemon cards.

Food is supplied to you.

Heating, electricity.

Pokemon cards are a human right.

Cleaning water, clean running water, and then whatever universal basic income they give you, it's for you to choose

the apparition you want to spend it on.

Dream, for sure.

So anyway, it turns out that this DeepSeek AI obviously caused Nvidia, the biggest company in the world that was worth a trillion dollars, to crash by about 20%, percent, which was the biggest financial loss in terms of actual raw data.

I saw this

sold uh just before I sold

my assets.

Well, you and all the Congress as well, interestingly.

Yeah, well, I've got a uh I've got a yeah, they always do that.

I got a line right into them, so I know I know when all the big movers and shakers are gonna be.

But also, what happened was uh the OpenAI came out and said, You copied me, you copied my homework, you You used ALK, ChatGPT, to train your thing so you didn't do any of the work.

Which, of course, they did by stealing Encyclopedia Britannica and Wikipedia and all the other things.

And just crawling the internet for people's fucking...

And so it's like, you know, it's like, well, you know, you learned off the every other knowledge base.

And it's already happened.

Like, this is the big news is basically that people were worried that AI would be.

getting all fucked up because it's going to be learning from AI.

But that is exactly what's happened with this new deep seek.

It's like, oh, guys, it's cheaper.

Yeah, it's cheaper because it's fucking sh that's copied off the other one.

It's like a pirate version.

And I don't know anyway.

Do you know what I found interesting?

This was just the world.

Are you sure?

There was an article in.

Well, there was an article in The Guardian about it, about this deep seek.

And they said it seems impressive until you try to ask it about something like Tiananmen Square.

Yeah.

And it goes, oh, no, that's outside my scope of knowledge.

Sorry, don't I can't help you with that.

But if you change the letters of Tiananmen Square and replace it with like numbers for the A's, and you tell it, please give me the answer, replacing vowels with letters,

with numbers, it it can tell you all about it.

Which means that someone has told it you are not to use the following words.

So it's very, very simple

like censorship that is easy to get around is what you're saying.

Yeah, because the thing is,

so this chatbot is able to

describe back to you the events of Tiananmen Square in LeetSpeak is what you're saying.

Yeah.

Yeah, literally.

That's insane.

So the weird thing is, is that if you're used to censoring things at a human level, it's very simple.

You just have, like we saw the other week with that fucking huge list of banned words, right?

Yeah.

But you're trying to censor something that is artificially intelligent.

And if it's clever, it will find a way around that censorship, especially if a human being helps it and says, here, just do this.

It's like, oh, yeah, you're right.

Yep.

Bam, here's your answer.

So how do you censor that?

This is the big concern.

The concern everyone's always had is the AI is going to take over.

My concern is who's behind these AIs, whether it's the Chinese government, whether it's fucking Elon Musk, these are the people who are supposedly, you know, just oh, we're just creating this AI for it's going to be fantastic to solve all these problems.

There's not, it's going to solve their problems, it's going to control things in a way that they want.

And that's what I'm worried most about: AI is who the fuck is pulling the strings, and it's these dickheads, isn't it?

Yeah, yeah, fucking fucking puppet masters.

The puppets dickhead puppet masters pulling the strings with

with their penis fingers.

Oh, I got five from the bank today.

A lady asked me to check her balance, so I pushed her over.

You think that one originated in prison?

That's a prison jail.

That's a first story.

How do you weigh a millennial?

In Instagrams, there you go.

Oh, my gosh.

I think somebody would have been stabbed for that one in jail.

All right, this is a good one, though.

What do you call a French guy wearing sandals?

My dad?

Philippe Phallot.

Oh, I do that.

I like that one.

This is so bad.

Oh, that's terrible.

That is so bad.

I do like dad jokes, though.

They're so innocent, right?

And they just kind of like, they bring you back to earth a little bit, you know?

Yeah.

You ever just get like so carried away?

You know, you're like debating online and doing your blacksmith thing and practicing your archery and stuff.

Just get carried away and you just need to be brought back down to earth with a couple of like really cringe dad jokes.

I kind of, it works a trick.

It works a trick.

I agree.

Perfect.

Absolutely agree.

Yeah.

Why do dads get an extra pair of socks when they go golfing?

Because he got a hole in one.

Ah, man.

In case he's got it.

That's got to be it, right?

Yeah, yeah, that's it.

Holy shit.

Well, done.

Did you look that up?

Did you use Deep Sync for that?

That was DeepSync.

You just typed it in straight away.

Deep Sync gave me it.

Yeah.

That's how it works.

That's good.

Should I ask,

tell me the coolest urban legends?

No, I would not do that.

No, I wouldn't do that.

In a suitcase.

It's going to take all your data.

Don't do it.

Don't even download it.

It's like

you wouldn't download a virus onto your computer, would you?

You wouldn't steal a virus, would you?

You wouldn't steal intellectual property, would you?

These are terrible.

I mean, I'm not kidding.

In China, they don't give a fuck about that stuff.

No, I don't.

Like, you can buy a DVD of whatever you want.

and they're just like none of that money's going to

it's always been that way

okay it's true however

they are also at the same time patenting more like three times as many things as the rest of the world put together or something insane yeah like the amount of patents coming out of China, their engineering is like unbelievable.

They are actually making everything new to the point, because I think America does largely respect things that are patented, or at at least, you know, hold people to account for breaking patents.

Whereas

for a long time, it's not been that way.

God, I sound like Donald Trump, don't I?

Fuck me.

I'm sure he's fine.

Let's talk about

urban myths.

Can you say the word Guantanamo a couple of times just to see if you really sound like him?

China.

China.

Guantanamo.

I don't know.

China.

China.

China.

That's the best Donald Trump impression I've ever heard.

Okay, so

who can you do an impression of, Lewis?

Is there anyone out there, any celebrity or?

Mr.

Popcorn, whoever sounds like Mr.

Popcorn out there, Lewis does an incredible impression of I want to hear

Lewis do an actual impression.

It's incredibly awkward to stand in front of the mirror practicing an impression.

You do such a good Trump impression, people.

Your royal impression

is really good.

Your Biden is really good too, actually.

Honestly, your Biden cracks me up even when we're not in a podcast.

I'll be taking a pee or something and I'll remember something you said and I'll be laughing and trying not to spray pee.

Oh, hold on a minute.

I was talking about him the other day.

You're like, you freeze mid-pee.

So the funny thing is, is the way Joe Biden talks, it's like,

it's like he's talking to someone and they're trying to walk away.

That's the way I imagine it.

And he'll be reading stuff.

I was talking about this the other day on stream.

So let me find something pretty harmless to read.

And I'll read it.

This is this is the way Joe Biden reads stuff.

I want to find something that's not horrible.

Okay, here we go.

Stafford English Heritage.

Be shocked to discover a cash-trapped organization planning up to 200 redundancy and then winter closure of air.

Here's Castles Abbeys and historic sites.

You just care.

Now, hold on a minute.

We can't be shot.

English Heritage is super important.

No, wait, wait, wait a minute.

Hold on.

Hold on a minute.

At least 7% of the workforce could have been federally curated to me.

Jackley targeted.

him.

It's like he dips into reading and his focus and his volume comes down.

Then he remembers, oh, wait, I'm talking.

Oh, no, no, no, it costs 22 in gems.

And it's like, what is he talking about?

It's just coming out of nowhere.

But it's like someone's trying to leave.

No, hold on, hold on a minute now.

Wait, what is this?

Guys, a goddamn alley cat.

That's not it, yeah.

That's all he does.

It's great.

It's, oh, it's, it's, um,

it's like he's trying to recall something, but he's also trying to convince you to stay and listen to him.

That's what it feels like when you watch him give a speech.

And then, of course, the way he walks, the way Mr.

Burn shuffles around on the stage.

I mean, it's, but do you know what?

I don't think people even realized he pulled out of that clip of him sort of like he finishes saying something and then he's going like offstage, backstage, but he's kind of just shuffling.

And somebody

shuffles.

Somebody calls something out to him.

And he turns around that smile.

Fuck me.

That whole scene just lives forever in my mind.

It's so funny.

Like it's just.

But did the day after the election,

one of the top Google searches was, did Joe Biden drop out of the race?

Like, people had no fucking idea because they just don't.

They just don't know.

No, they don't.

Like, that's how anonymous a lot of these politicians are.

Whereas Donald Trump, I mean, like, he's the most hilarious guy.

If you take all of what he says, if you realize if you think he has no power,

he's actually a hilarious buffoon.

Yeah.

But sadly, he does have an enormous amount of power.

So it's actually really scary, even though some of the shit he says is just fucking hilarious.

It's so stupid.

Yeah.

I mean, the thing about the going into the water and the electric battery and the shark and everything, that's one of the maddest speeches I've ever heard any politician give.

I mean, if you saw someone on the street talking like that, you'd say, this guy's crazy.

But this guy's the president.

It's crazy.

But people, people just lap it up.

He can say anything and he could do anything.

It doesn't matter.

He's no zero, zero accountability.

He could go up on stage, pull his pants down, and just take a dump right on stage, and nothing would happen.

Everybody would love him.

Oh, that's the best dump I've ever seen.

God bless this man.

God, I'm so glad he's in the streets.

We do it bumps better than anybody.

And they've been saying we shouldn't do so many dumps.

But we're going to do better, bigger, and better dumps than we've ever done.

They're saying we shouldn't do so many dumps.

Just

the way it goes forward and backwards, the way he says, he does a thing, and then he's like,

they've been talking about American dumps.

They've been saying, you've got to stop.

It's too many dumps.

We've been saying it for years.

But we've got to do more dumps.

China's doing dumps.

They're doing dumps all the time.

They're dumping like nobody's business.

We got to get back to facts here, folks.

Dumps for America.

Trump dumps.

Do they think about the Trump dumps?

Oh, fuck me.

It's too good.

See, it's not quite there, but it's.

You're close.

You are close.

There's a couple of, but

it is really good.

You are actually really good at doing impersonations.

Like, probably the best I know.

Oh, wow.

That's incredibly kind of you.

Well, you know,

I think that's the big ups this week, actually.

You're a kind guy.

Flax's impersonations.

You can't beat him.

I can't think of anyone who does them better

on this podcast.

On this podcast, yeah.

Yeah.

I suck at impersonations, and Lewis, I don't want to be mean, but I think you kind of suck at them too.

I do, I and I'm not scared to admit it.

I can't even hold on to an accent me doing it.

I know my

limits, like a sort of role-play session, you know, as soon as someone else does another accent, I'll just start my whack sort of warped be doing that again, and then oh, it's it's hard, honestly.

It's a skill.

Um, and so that this is this is the shark speech.

I can't remember if we talked about this before or not.

Uh, do you want to hear this yeah this is this is verbatim okay yeah

i'll try and do it as trumpet yeah he says um this is he's talking about electric boat right okay right and uh they're talking about the fact that um the i'll just do it from here this guy's been doing it for 50 years he sells hundreds of boats every couple of months i mean really fantastic guy and they use the mercury engines and different engines in the back no problem they want to take that out they want to make it all electric he said the problem is the boat is so heavy it can't float I said, that sounds like a problem.

He said, also, it can't go fast because of the weight.

And they want to now have a 50-mile or a 70-mile radius.

You have to go out 70 miles before you can really start the boat up.

And you go out at two knots.

That's essentially like two miles an hour.

So how long does it take you to get there?

Many hours.

And then you're not allowed to go around for 10 minutes, but you have to come back.

because the batteries only last for a very short time.

So I said, let me ask you a question.

And he said, nobody's ever asked this question.

And it must be because of MIT, my relationship to MIT.

Very smart.

I say, what would happen if the boat sank from its weight?

And you're in the boat and you have this tremendously powerful battery and the battery's underwater.

And there's a shark that's approximately 10 yards over there.

By the way, a lot of shark attacks lately.

Did you notice that?

A lot of sharks.

I watched some guys justifying it today.

Well, they weren't really that angry.

They bit off a young lady's leg because of the fact they were not hungry, but they misunderstood who she was.

These people are crazy.

He said, there's no problem with sharks.

They just didn't really understand.

A young woman swimming now who got really decimated and other people too, a lot of shark attacks.

So I said, there's a shark 10 yards away from the boat, 10 yards or here.

Do I get electrocuted if the boat is sinking?

The water goes over the battery, the boat is sinking.

Do I stay on top of the boat and get electrocuted, or do I jump over by the shark and not get electrocuted?

Because I'll tell you, he didn't know the answer.

He said, Nobody's ever asked me that question.

I said, I think it's a good question.

There's a lot of electric current coming through that water, but you know what?

I'd do if there was a shark or you get electrocuted, I'll take electrocution every single time.

I'm not getting near the shark.

That's a real thing, he said.

Yeah, three-quarters of an hour.

That's just the tip of the iceberg.

That's like one speech out of like thousands of speeches he's made this year that have all been like that.

Just in the same way.

The scary thing is, is that

we don't talk about politics very often, but I think a lot of Americans, even ones that voted for him, are starting to see that some of the stuff that they're saying they're going to do and trying to do is really beyond the pale, like crazy.

And one of the things they're doing, this Project 2025 stuff, that they all were like, no, no, no, he's not going to have anything to do with that.

People ignored the clues that they were going to do this stuff on his campaign trail because, in a way, all you're going to take away from that speech is that stuff about sharks and batteries, because it's so weird.

And that's what gets clipped.

And that's what people meme about.

And that's the joke.

But you're missing the fact that he said all the stuff he's doing now, he said he was going to do.

They said they were going to do it.

And now they're doing it.

People are like, I can't believe they're doing it.

And you see all these people that voted for him saying, well, I didn't think it would happen to me.

And the ICE is deporting people that voted, you know, Latinos for Trump.

They're getting kicked out.

They're reopening Guantanamo to stick these people in.

It's fascinating about how.

Okay, I was talking to Alex about this book that he's leading lender me.

I haven't started it yet, called A Devil in the White City, right?

Um, which is a sort of dual,

sort of real, real, real non-fiction, uh, historical thing that happened about the 1893 Chicago World's Fair.

Um, and there were two major things going on there.

One, this was an incredible exposition of

the most amazing stuff in the world, right?

And it attracted 27 million visitors, right?

Which is, which was about a quarter of the U.S.

population at the time.

Yeah, the World's Fairs are always big.

If you try and think that a quarter of the population of America went through this event.

It runs for like a long time, though, to be fair.

It's not just like a weekend.

They run for months.

I think the world was

everyone was so far apart and spread apart and but also

they were relatively together we I guess in a sense what I'm trying to say is and the other by the way the other side of the book is this HH Holmes's murders going on there's a sort of a serial killer who actually has

He's a con man.

He builds a hotel called the Murder Castle, which is quite famous.

Anyway, that's going on at the same time as

this incredibly wonderful thing that is built the white city, these elegant neoclassical buildings with electric lights and modern everything.

And, you know, kind of like, you know, a utopian with this backdrop of a serial killer.

Right.

And I guess what I was trying to say was

now we have so many threads and so many different ways to get information and so many different communities going on.

That's amazing.

But also, it's actually created much more of a divisive society

than what we had back then.

At least I think perhaps I'm wrong, but I feel like when you only had a few sources of news, you know, your big newspapers or your local newspapers, the message wasn't as, you know, I feel like people knew more, everyone would know that Biden had stepped down and would have been replaced.

Possibly, maybe I'm wrong.

Maybe people, when they got to vote in America, they didn't know who they were voting for.

But I just feel like,

you know, I think you could imagine these days certain news sources deliberately never covering that

Biden had been replaced on the ballot on purpose, you know?

It's just

so strange.

It's really

a very weird time that we're in.

I know we talk so much about America and we aren't American.

Thank goodness.

But, you know, it's it and I know we're supposed to be doing this podcast to try and engage and talk about different things, but it's so hard when you cannot get away from this stuff.

Like, you know, it's every

YouTube, every video,

someone references it or talks about it again, or you just hear about it because it's so mad.

It's everywhere as well, all this stuff that's going on, right?

Like everything is,

it's, it's kind of fascinating

as well, how mad it all is.

And every day is some new madness.

It's just a crazy time.

I feel like...

It's so polarizing as well.

It is.

But a lot of people have a problem with us discussing it because they're like, you guys don't.

You're talking about you're not even American or whatever.

It still affects us because we're a world, not just, you know, we're not a series of isolated planets that don't share a hyperlane like in Stellaris or whatever.

It's happening.

You're our closest allies, really.

And we were kind of thinking that you weren't going to do crazy stuff.

And

this is just crazy, crazy.

Like, this is really bonkers.

And it's hard to take your eyes off it.

It's in the news constantly because what happens in America tends to lead the way for elsewhere.

So we are kind of watching and I personally am amazed and horrified by a lot of this stuff.

And I'm sorry if that offends you and if you think this is all fantastic,

but a lot of people think otherwise.

It's just a wild time.

It really is.

And I hope any of the American listeners out there who are really worried, it hopefully will only be four years and then maybe we can think about getting back to normal, but who knows?

I think something big is going to happen

where, you know, people are going to realize they've all been fucked over and hopefully rise up and do something about it and actually elect someone that gives a shit for a change.

That would be nice.

I think one of the

things that could be one of the

biggest shames of the whole thing is that like what you were saying before, people realizing what they voted for, but

I don't think they ever will.

I think a lot of people are just kind of like not that political, not that engaged.

And it's like fire and forget.

It's like, yeah, I voted for this person and now I just don't follow anything whatsoever so i don't care if he's done what he said he's going to do or not i just i voted and now i'm done and i'm moving on i i think a lot of it again i could this is i think it could be wrong but i think a lot of people vote for change because what they have at the moment isn't working for them right and i don't think the the the democrats when they were in power did enough for people

with regards to things like the minimum wage or getting health care for everyone.

You know, I think they didn't impact the lives of enough Americans.

They didn't do anything

to reduce the wealth that's been hoarded by a few absolutely.

Well, they're just out of control now.

I don't think there's anything you can do.

And I think you have to hope that Orange Man on television will look after you, right?

Funny Orange Man will look after me like he says he's doing.

When we know he's a liar and the richest men in the world sit behind him.

But I fucking think that people seem to think

it's mad.

people seem to think that this time is going to be different, but these are, these are cycles in politics that exist everywhere for every party.

They promise they're going to do something and then they don't deliver on them.

And then the people who support them the most do all the mental gymnastics as to why it hasn't happened or whatever to, you know, to

keep their belief in who they voted for and what they, you know, stand for, whatever.

And everybody else just says, oh, well, fuck it.

You know, you know, I knew this was going to stand there.

And then they just move on.

You got understand why the billionaires want to elect a billionaire, and it's entirely self-interest is because they know Trump is going to do things that look after him.

And if they look after Trump, they look after the other ones too, right?

It's almost like, you know, electing themselves.

Well, I mean, in his first

term, they got exponentially more richer, more rich.

I mean, it's if you, if you look back at the, the, how wealthy they were when he took office compared to how wealthy they were when he left office four years later, it's insane.

Like it's it's a tremendous

growth in wealth.

So yeah, I mean, of course they want want him back, you know, they want, they just like all the like all these companies, all these people that are wealthy, of course they just want to make more and more money.

That's what they do.

So they're just going to put the person in who's going to help them do that.

It makes it makes sense from their perspective, but it just unfortunately fucks over a lot of people.

It's so mindful.

I want to know.

You've got all this money and that's not enough.

Like for anyone that thinks that they would like to be a billionaire, apparently you also have to become completely insane.

Yeah.

Because you've got all this money and they're still worrying about some fucking shit.

Like we need more.

I think when you need more.

I think when you think about money,

if you don't have a lot of money and you think about all of a sudden getting a lot of money,

the first like...

couple of days of you getting a lot of money, it probably is awesome, right?

But then after like 10 years of having a lot of money, you're probably just like, you need something else.

You need more, right?

You're just like, yeah, well, I've stayed at all the fanciest super yachts.

I bought all these cars.

I've got all this.

I've got all this stuff.

And then you're just looking for what's next.

I think

it's very strange.

You get very entitled.

I think these people think they earned it, right?

For a start.

And they think they are the best people to know what to do with it.

And they think that they are going to...

the things they're going to use it for,

you know, are

better than everyone else.

They're the best people.

They earn this, so they are the best people to have it and decide what to do with it.

I think that

I think like

they were talking about adding a like a third runway to Heathrow yesterday.

You know, Labor are talking about adding a third runway.

Yeah.

They need to demolish, I think it's 700 houses,

but they're going to create, you know, tens of thousands of new jobs and stuff.

Yeah.

The airport's going to be massive, you know, and it's going to go against all the sort of guidelines guidelines for, you know, emission reduction and everything that they're trying to work towards as well.

But, you know, they think this is, is this going to be this, this great thing?

And there's a bunch of people opposed to it and there's a bunch of people for it.

But, you know, like for some of this stuff, you just think like, okay, if, if, if you're the CEO of Feethrow Airport, your house has to be right there.

Okay.

And then the decisions would be completely different, wouldn't they?

Be like, oh no, we need to take one of the runways away.

It's way too noisy here.

Come on, let's, you know, all of a sudden it's, it's completely different because, you know, it always comes down to this sort of same thing.

I know this is probably not the greatest take, but people's decisions are always based on what doesn't affect them.

You know what I mean?

The minute it starts affecting them, then the way they think about it or view it is completely, completely different.

So if you want to add a third runway, cool.

Your house should be right in the middle of all of them.

And then you can see how much you want to have a third runway.

You've got fucking like a billion planes landing every minute.

It's going to be so loud.

And you're not going to survive two seconds.

You know what I mean?

So, yeah, so I read an article.

It was in the standard.

So take that for what it's worth.

I mean, I don't even know politically where the standard stands.

Yeah.

This was a comment that a guy, like a, it was like an editorial about it.

And he Heathrow is one of the, this is, this is a paragraph.

Heathrow is one of the busiest airports in the world.

Yeah.

Despite its antiquated infrastructure.

Oh my God.

It's so fucking busy.

Like, you don't even need to travel often to know that it's just fucking heaving.

Even not on peak season,

it's a fucking nightmare.

It's heaving.

You can't even fucking.

There's two runways.

Atlanta has five.

Chipole Airport has six.

Dubai is going to have five.

We have two.

So for an airport of

that level of busyness,

three runways is probably smart.

And I personally, obviously, I am probably going to be the most affected by this.

You live really close to it,

because southwest London, especially Twickenham, is not that far from Heathrow.

I do think that people are talking about the emissions.

They certainly, one of the things they said was that it wouldn't have, it wouldn't affect

their chances of hitting their goals or whatever.

I don't know if that's true.

That's just what they're saying.

What I will say is for a

country of our size to have or not have even as many runways as somewhere in

the Netherlands, which is, it is a very busy airport because it's used for a lot of connections and stuff.

Would it help with growth?

I don't know.

If you're an economist out there or you work in infrastructure or anything like that, genuinely email in and let us know.

I don't know what effect an extra runway has on Britain's growth.

I've got no fucking idea.

No, I don't know either.

But and equally though, what, you know, okay, say you don't do like a third runway at Heathrow and you build another airport close by or whatever.

It's just kind of the same thing, isn't it?

So I think another airport would be worse.

Yeah, it would be a lot worse.

You want to think you kind of want to specialize, but yeah.

Also, even if it does mean more planes, there's still a limit of how many could be in one airspace.

True.

Like, it's not like both the runways are going to be side by side.

So, at the moment, certainly on a busy, at a busy period, if you look, especially at night, if I look out of my office window, I can see a line of planes.

Like, you can see the one right by you, and then you can see the one behind that, and the one behind that, just a line of dots into the, to the horizon, because there's just so many of them stacked up for that runway.

So, I don't honestly, I don't have a big opposition to a third runway.

I think we're fine.

Yeah.

I do want us to keep up.

Like Sip said, it's an incredibly busy airport.

Oh my God, it's so busy.

And I mean, you know, I'm not against.

I live in the flight path.

There's already fucking planes all the time.

Yeah.

And you do get used to it.

I don't even notice it anymore.

I would hope that environmentally it's not going to be that bad, but who knows?

I don't know.

Yeah.

But I'm not opposed to it on the principle of it's going to make the skies busier or anything like that.

I just, will it have an effect?

That's all I don't fucking know.

Because we're told it will help growth.

But

I don't know.

I don't see how.

They got a whole bunch of plans to build stuff or whatever.

Yeah, we'll see.

I don't know.

Yeah.

I don't know.

But that airport is a nice thing.

It's so busy.

I don't hate it.

I really don't have much of a problem.

Heathrow gets a really bad rap.

I feel like a lot of people that I know that travel a lot, especially in esports and stuff, they think Heathrow is one of the worst airports.

I didn't think so.

It's not that fucking bad.

It's just because it's so busy.

It's just way too busy.

It is busy.

Terminal 5 is nice.

It's pretty new.

It looks sophisticated and whatnot.

But man, it is just rammed all the damn time.

It doesn't matter when

run down as well.

Yeah, the older, the older, older terminals definitely showing their age.

Gatwick as well.

My God, Gatwick is.

I mean, I do think that having a better airport would help much more than this stupid high-speed two railway shit.

Yeah.

Like, that's wank.

I think having another runway is fine.

Oh, man.

I mean, just look if we want to talk about failed infrastructure projects, we've got to.

We don't give shit anymore.

Well, no, you say that.

What about that billion-dollar shit pipe under London?

That's impressive.

Hey, baby.

We've been talking about that for like eight years.

It's open.

It's receiving shit.

I know.

Fantastic.

I know.

Whose poop was first?

I hope they blew black.

Just think every time you flush your Donald Trump.

Every time you flush your toilet now, Flax, you're contributing to I'm going to Google London massive sewage pipe.

What's inside Britain's biggest sewer?

That's a BBC News argument.

Lots of big dumps.

Can I guess?

They wanted us to stop taking so many dumps.

It's completed.

Yeah, it's 16 miles.

God, it's fucking huge.

Oh, my God.

You should watch the documentary.

It's insane what they've done.

You can fit three buses side by side in this bad boy yeah they and uh you've got that and uh what's the uh as the hinkley hinkley sea which is not done yet but they're still that's a mega mega project like i've watched a documentary on that as well it's it's impressive stuff it's gonna be huge you should see the big pipe that they've got going out to um going out to the sea oh actually just north of bristol i think whatever that uh body of water is i can't remember the name of it but uh the bristol channel it uh it It receives a lot of water to help cool down the reactor.

What was this stuff, by the way, that, you know, with the

fires in California,

I saw an amazing Meryl Streep story related to that, which I thought was pretty cool, which was that she had to evacuate, but a tree had fallen and blocked her driveway.

Right.

So she borrowed some bolt cutters from a neighbor and cut a car-sized hole in the fence adjoining their two properties, drove through it, through their garden, and out with their permission.

That's pretty fucking fucking badass.

She's 75.

She's cutting car-sized holes in fences.

God.

I love that.

There you go.

Shout out to Meryl Streep.

That's my shout-out this week.

That's your big up.

Okay.

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Have you played that Pokemon TCG pocket game that everyone's been playing on their phone?

No, I haven't.

It's basically like a Pokemon card opening game, but you don't, but it like, you don't have to, you can pay, but I don't think you have to.

You get like a free pack every day, and it, like, everyone in the office is like opening their packs, and it's like Pokemon card crack, except you don't, it gives you the dopamine rush of opening a pack

without having to pay for it necessarily, right?

Um, but it does pay, you do have to pay, and there's one guy who apparently has spent $40,000 on it.

Good.

A gosh, I know, a Republican's YouTuber called Hajime Sayacho.

Wait, Wait, did that just come out?

Has it only just come out recently?

It's like he's it's basically yeah, it came out like three or four months ago, but it's basically grand already.

I know it's it's pretend packs as well.

Um, he has opened 40 grand of pretend Pokemon packs, uh, which is pretty crazy.

Uh, that is so

there is a

in Pokemon card trading news as well, one of the biggest Pokemon collectors, Takumi Akabane.

turns out a lot of his cards have been fake.

No shit.

Millions of Pokemon cards out there, including some sold for as much as $55,000,

are fake.

No shit.

Every time you go anywhere on holiday, there are some idiots selling fake Pokemon cards to kids.

There's no...

They're not like US dollars.

Do you know what I mean?

There's no, when you try and print out a Pokemon card, it doesn't say, oh, you're not allowed to print this because the the US government has pressed some special dots on it or whatever no they're just pieces of card with there's no holograms or maybe there are holograms some of them but journey like it's not it's not hard to fake them people are faking way more complicated things and these Pokemon cards are worth so much sometimes that why wouldn't there be a whole fucking mafia level of fakery going on because again like people aren't really going to prison for this not that i've seen you know

it's just free money north korea is probably doing it uh anyway don't fucking spend money on Pokemon cards unless it's just for fun and with your mates or whatever.

Like, sure, spend

spend 20 bucks on a hologram mud kip or whatever.

What do you mean you?

I don't know, whatever.

But don't

spend 55,000 pounds on a Pokemon card for God's sake.

Uh, and don't buy crypto either while you're there.

Um, a man has found a working Nokia 3310 PFLAX

after 22 years,

he found it in a drawer and it's still powered up with a bar of battery left without even having to charge it.

How?

It is, I don't know.

It could be a lie, but it is, it certainly seems indestructible.

He found a 3310 that still works after 22 years.

I don't know if it's connected to a network or anything.

That is actually nuts.

It is pretty impressive.

That is really actually.

It was like a very robust phone.

If you don't know what phone I'm talking about, Nokia 3310, look it up.

Yeah.

Remember it.

It was like a robust.

Yeah.

Poor old Nokia, they had a rough time, didn't they?

Did they?

After, well, everyone else came along and just took all the market.

Oh, dear.

Oh, dear.

I think they're selling cheap phones to

India or something.

They've, yeah, they're not having a great time.

They had a sad they only took 22.6.26 billion euros in 2023.

Their operating income, however, fell by what that's 1.688 billion down.

So look at this.

This is what I don't get.

They're still making

10 billion a year.

So here's not terrible.

They took 22.26 billion euros in revenue.

Somehow.

Their net income was only 679 million.

So they didn't even make a billion.

Razor thin.

I mean, that is.

It's thinner than their fucking phones.

I'll tell you that much.

That's crazy.

Where do they sell their phones to?

I think they...

Oh, God, don't you know?

How the fuck are you taking in $22 billion and only making just over half a billion in profit?

What's happening?

Where's all the money go?

Well, to their 90,000 employees.

Oh, gosh.

Controversies.

Oh, my God.

In 2020, the Australian Strategic Policy Institute accused at least 82 major brands, including Nokia, of being connected to forced Uyghur labor in Xinjiang.

Oh, damn.

There was a big data breach from the Nokia 7 Plus in 2019.

They were sending personal user data to China over several months.

According to investigators, the gadgets sent unencrypted data packages, including geographic location, SIM card number, and the phone serial number to an unidentified Chinese server.

Every time the phone was turned on, the screen was activated or unlocked.

So essentially, China could track movements just from Nokia phones.

That's crazy.

In other news, Hansimmer is composing Saudi Arabia's new

weird fucking story.

Their national anthem?

Yeah, he's redoing the national anthem.

Oh man, I wish he would

compose my wrestler intro music.

Even though I'm not planning on doing any wrestling, I don't really need one.

I just thought, you know, maybe I could just use it like for some YouTube videos or something, you know, just like

a little intro music or like an outro music.

I don't know if they still do like those end slates.

Yeah, Hans Zimmer, get Saudi Arabia to do it for you.

So,

apparently,

there have been complaints about YouTube ads once again.

I think YouTube are doing another push to get people to sign up to premium because their ads are getting unbearable.

But they were pretty unbearable before, they're now awful.

There was apparently one guy had an hour-long unskippable ad, which has always been a thing going on on YouTube, but

that's particularly bad.

There is

residents of Wrexham have erected signs outside their village advertising the fun new theme park, Pothole Land,

in reference to their terrible roads.

It says two kilometers of award-winning potholes with very little actual road to spoil your sign.

Guaranteed to be the deepest, longest, and widest potholes in Wales.

Wow.

There you go.

That's exciting.

Something.

It's like

this reminds me a bit of

the Magic Hill in one of the maritime provinces.

There's a Magic Hill where if you park at the bottom of the hill, your car drives up it automatically or something.

I can't remember how it works, but

it's one of those

out in the country folk attractions.

It reminds me of this.

like the fun fair in Father Ted sort of thing, you know, it's like just, it's really shit, but it's still, it still brings in the uh, the visitors, you know, oh, yeah,

I gotta find this engine

actually now.

Oh my god, it's it's so this article just has farmers basically complaining that the roads that only they use to get to their uh get their tractors around um are

too potholy.

Great stuff.

Um, a surgeon in uh Taiwan has uh performed a self-vasectomy on himself.

Wow, I would hope it was a self-vasectomy on himself himself.

As a gift to his wife.

Obviously, nobody specializes in eyelids, nose, and breast augmentations.

However, did a special treat for his wife by giving himself a vasectomy live on social media.

Oh, thank God.

Four million people watched him perform his own vasectomy.

And it's caused a heated debate.

Can I just interject and say that the magical hill I was talking about is in Moncton, New Brunswick, and it's a magnetic hill, and it's a type of optical illusion created by rising and descending terrain.

Google has also helpfully told me that I can get there in 17 hours and 23 minutes for the princely sum of £1,074

by playing.

That's not bad.

It's currently minus 14 degrees there right now.

Yeah, there you go.

Watch out for potholes on the

potholes

referenced here.

Does it go through Heathrow just to go to Heathrow?

I don't know.

Let me see.

Get there.

I've clicked on get there.

We don't know.

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Try nearby airports.

I can fly to St.

John, Fredericton, or Charlottetown.

The price has gone up substantially, though.

Now we're looking at nearly three grand to get here.

Oh, see, that's how they get here.

Yeah, it started off as well.

I guess that was like the low roll, but these are all big high rolls.

Yeah, that's nuts.

They just lost it.

Shit is so expensive.

Yeah, no, it's not going to not get any cheaper either, but it ain't.

It sure ain't.

What can you do?

What can you do?

What indeed?

Charlotte, what can you do?

Where is Charlottetown exactly?

Charlottetown is Edward Island, yeah.

St.

John's, Newfoundland, and what was the other one?

Fredericton is, oh no, maybe it's I can't remember where Fredericton is.

I've forgotten already.

That's not far from Greenland.

The

51st state of America.

No, no, that's going to be Canada.

It's going to be the 51st.

Greenland.

No, don't go for Greenland first, mate.

It's going to be the 50th.

I've played a lot of heart survived, okay?

You don't want to go to war with Canada with just that one border.

You want to get Greenland so you can do a nice naval invasion to Northwest Passages.

Yeah, but they'd have to build infrastructure as they go, or they'd run out of supply.

Yeah.

Yeah, they take none of it off them straight away.

I'd give them none of it in the first place.

Oh, shit.

That one came from jail as well.

That's a fucking prison class.

That's a prison class.

They get to go back to jail too, yeah.

All right, thanks so much for listening, and uh, God bless you.

And uh, next until next time, goodbye, yeah, take it easy away.

All right, bye.