A Call For Change

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Well, I hope everybody has been having a good week so far. Thanks again for catching another episode of Kate and Ty Break It It Down.

You know, we like to break things down with you guys. In today's episode, I feel like we have a lot of fan questions that I've gotten.

And also... Any juicy ones? Huh? Any juicy ones? I mean, they vary, you know.
Like, I didn't do like the

anonymous secrets anonymous. Okay, okay.
You know, I just kind of asked people to ask us questions.

I think that's always fun. Tyler and I also have planned.
We need to make this happen. People really want to see an episode with Nova.
All right, I'll do it. I will.
I think it's smart.

Yeah, and I think Nova would love to be a part of it. You know, we might have to record that like a nighttime episode when the other two are sleeping.
Yeah, I guess it's

true. You know? Yeah, she'd probably love it, though, because she's always like, can I hang out with you guys? Oh, gosh, yes.
Can I come in your bed? No. She would love it.

And so, Nova, this is Nova's third week, technically third week of school. And yesterday she was like struggling.
She was just like talking about how she was stressed out.

But I think it's, and I told her, I said, listen, this is normal for a middle schooler. Yeah.
And then think about it. And also the fact that she's in middle school in fifth grade.

I was still at elementary school. I was going on the playground still.
You don't even think about it. And you still only had like one teacher.
You might switch every now and then, right?

Yeah, randomly, but like she's, you know, she's in the, she's in the middle school. Yeah.
She's in it.

And so I told her last yesterday when she was texting me at lunch and she's like, I'm just stressed out. She's like, and then I went to the counselor's office and I'm like, why? What was so wrong?

What's wrong? Like, why are you upset? Because she's like, I was crying and she goes, I'm just stressed out about school. She's like, and Caddy really got to me yesterday.
Oh, she thought about Caddy.

And I was thinking about it. Like, she took Caddy's death so well.
I felt like she didn't take the time to like really feel her feelings. And so now it's hitting her all of a sudden.
Yeah.

But I told her, I said, you know, grief does, it comes in waves. Yeah.
You know, and you have to just

treat it like a

passing by train. You're just going to like view it, look at it, feel it, feel it, experience the wind that it's pushing and just

let it go. Yeah.
Yeah. And then I also, and so I tried to explain to her yesterday.
I was like, you know, like school is important. Yeah.
Your grades, they're important.

I was like, but just remember, like school is just school. Do your best.
Try the best that you can. If you have questions, ask and ask and ask.
Keep asking until it makes sense.

You know, like don't stress out so much about it to where she's causing you.

Maybe she's like

getting more like conscious of just wanting to get A's and B. You know what I mean? I mean,

this is the first year where she does that too. Yeah, and this is the first, I mean, I never

give a shit. That was bad.
I was like, listen, as long as I get a C, I'm good. See, and I was kind of like, I'm just here to see my friends.
Yeah.

Listen, as long as I got a C and I'm passing, whatever. Yeah, and that's kind of what I mean.

We did tell her that, too, because she was like, well, what is a grade that, like, you know, what would be like considered bad? And me and you both said, like, anything under a C. Anything under a C.

I mean, like, and like, you know, a C is good. It's, it's, it's the bare minimum of passing.
Right. You know what I mean?

So I told her, I was like, you know, it's up to you what, how you want to do it. And she was like, well, I, I don't, I want to get an A, obviously, but a B is okay.

And then a C is like, I'm like, well, listen, it's up to you. Like I said, I think she's getting to the point where she's actually getting kind of like, she's getting conscious of like

what grades she has, how that, how I think, how we feel about it.

You know, and obviously we always talked about grades when she's in elementary school. Right.
But I think she's feeling the bigger importance.

And now that it's middle school, It's different than elementary school. You know what I mean?

Well, because in elementary school, it was like A or like, no, they have like T's or M's, like meets and exceeds, tries. Like, it was never A, B, C, D, E, F.
Now it's like A, B, C's.

And so now I think she's just like, oh,

I'm like, it's

normal. But I also feel like, you know, Nova's a little different.
I think, I wish I was more conscious when I was a kid. I wish I cared more.

I wish I was like one of those kids who was like, I got to get A's and B's. You know what I'm saying? But I just didn't give a shit.

But like when you came home from school every day, would your mom ask goofy at homework? Yeah. Oh, okay.

She would say, Do you have homework? I mean, yeah, I mean, no, I don't get no homework. But it's crazy because this day and age, like, the kids can't lie and say they don't have homework.

I know, because I have an app, everything.

It dings me when it's like, she has a grade loaded. Like, when she gets graded, like, when her assignments get graded, I get a notification.
I love it. It's crazy.

I love it because I would have been screwed as a kid. I would have been so screwed if my guy had that.

Oh, Bankster. Hey, man, chill out.
Come here.

We got to have have the Chihuahua up here. That's because I hit my leg.

Because he's still skittish and he's yippee yappy yippee yappy. Come here.
It's okay. Sorry, guys.
Our dog is being wild. Well, he's still new to us, too.
So all the new sounds and

he's like got the ear-piercing bark of a chihuahua.

He is the shakiest, he's scared. Scared little dude I've ever met.
He's so scared.

But yeah, so I just told Nova. I'm like, just try your best and ask questions and keep on asking until it makes sense to you.

And if it doesn't make sense, and I've always told her too, like, if you're struggling in an area, like me and dad, we will get you tutors. We'll get you whatever you need.

Remember, she had a little issue with math?

I got her tutor, ASAP. Yeah.
You know, I mean, it's, it's, and that helped her so much. It did.
It really did. And she also felt more confident because I asked her, how did the tutor?

How do you like it? She's like, well, I am learning stuff differently. She's like, but that it gives me like a, like, it makes me confident that I can do it.

I'm like, all right, well, there you go, buddy. Yeah.
And so, you know, obviously you have to let us know if you're struggling so that way we can help you.

Um, she's, you know, she's a male schooler, dude. It's a whole different ballgame.
It is, it is, it is, it's intense, you know. Yeah, I mean, I can set she's carrying her backpack in the morning.

She's like, I got to carry all this, I got to carry this to each class. And it's like, it's just a big remember how that felt? Yeah, and she said yesterday too.

And I'm like, why were you getting so stressed? She's like, well, this happened. She goes, and then I couldn't get my locker open.
It was jammed. Then that made me late to my first hour.
Oh, she was.

Oh, she didn't tell me she was late. Yeah.
Oh, she was tripping. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. But also tell your teacher that, like, I could not get my locker open.
You know, they,

I mean, that whole school needs new lockers. I know, dude.
And they have bolts in it. They have screws.
And that Nova told me about the one time. She's like, I put a pencil in the hole.

She's like, because I figured if I stuck the pencil in there and pushed it up, it'd be easier. She goes, I did it.
It snapped and it smacked me in the face.

I was like, oh, my God. Yeah,

she's experiencing it. Yeah, so we definitely need to do an episode with Nova.
I think that would be interesting. Yeah, so anyone listening, like, you know, give us, message us, DM us.
I don't know.

Maybe we'll make a little. I might do a question box for Nova episode.
Yeah, for Nova, for the Nova episode. Yeah.
I would like to hear what. And plus, I want to ask her things, too.

Like, you know, what has it been like for you being a child that is born on TV and growing up on TV? Like, what is that like for you? Like, all sorts of different questions.

And Nova's very open-minded and very, like,

she'll tell you anything. Yeah, you ask whoever you want to ask.
We'll screen it as a parents and, you know,

obviously. But yeah.
Absolutely. We will be screening that crap.
But I think it'd be interesting. Yeah.

I wanted to pull up some of these questions.

Why stay married to someone who hates you? Well, I feel like if this person is,

why stay married to someone that hates you?

You don't. Right, I agree.
You don't stay with anyone who hates you. You don't hang out with anyone who hates you.
Right. I mean, you don't be around anyone that hates you.

They're going to suck the energy right out of you.

That's okay. Especially if you're feeling like they hate you or something.
I'm out. Like, are you kidding me? There's no way that that is

going to happen.

Wow, that's a weird question. I feel like it's kind of a weird question, but why? No, you just, you just don't.
There's no

why, you just don't do it. No, you know, yeah, that's weird.
I wouldn't want to be with you. Yeah, no, I, I, I don't, I'm out, yeah, I'm out.
I think it's different.

We can not agree on something or, you know, have different opinions on certain things, but dude, yeah, but if you literally,

yeah, me and no, then

I'm doing you a favor by leaving. Yeah.
Think about it. If you hate me

so much,

I'm doing you a favor by saying, I do not want you to be with anyone that you hate or around anyone that you hate. So I'm not going to leave.

Remember, what did I say about like, I would never want to be around somebody or even put myself in a group anything if I felt like not. That they didn't like you.
Yeah, right.

But why would I do that?

What am I doing here? Well, it makes no sense. I'm not going to surround myself with people that don't like me.
Well, yeah.

And also, I mean, like I said, it's different if I'm going in there actively trying to debate a topic or have a civil discussion. Right, but just know they don't agree, but like, dude, I'm not sure.

Just to hang out somewhere or be married to somebody that hates you? Hell no. That's crazy as hell.
Yeah. You're robbing yourself and robbing that person who hates you.

Somebody said, What was your first thought of Caitlin when you first met her? Oh, my God. My first thought was, like,

I mean, my honest, what?

My first thought was, dang, y'all, her tits are huge.

But, like,

okay, that's me, being honest. You gotta, I mean, I was 13 years old, you know, boy, whatever.
So I'm like, dang. Anyway, but that's- She's got big oh titties, man.
Tickle bitties, man. Holy shit.

Especially when you're, I mean, you're young. Oh, God, even saying that loud, it's like 13.

And I'm thinking about titties. What's wrong with me, bro? Anyway,

okay, that was like the first superficial thing. But then, like, your laugh, you had blonde hair split down the middle.
You had those rubber.

Oh, yeah, the bottom of the table. They were twisty tie.
Yes, the jelly bands had, I don't even know, you guys would twist them a certain way together, so it was like two colors. Yep, uh,

yeah, and you had a t-shirt that said, I'm with the drummer, and I was like, Yeah,

I was like, you know, and at that point, I had long hair, and that's all I was like, dude, I don't know. I was just like, damn, I said, That's a woman,

that's what I thought. My friend was like, damn, you know, because at that age, everyone's like, you know,

look a specific way. Yeah, see, I guess I didn't look like a little girl anymore.
Hell no. So I was like, damn, dude.

But,

yeah, I don't know. I was like immediately attracted.
I was just like, all right, I want to get to know.

Yeah, I could tell because every day in music class, he was trying to do something to make me laugh or sit next to me in the movie.

It worked like a charm. I could sense it.
The first, even though you were dating some other dude, whatever. Yeah.

But I never cheated on that dude, by the way.

I was trying to.

But,

I remember like, like, I don't know. I remember sensing it.
The first couple of times that we talked or or joked, I made you laugh or whatever. And I was like, oh, I.

Like you carrying around Dean like a backpack, backpack. Yeah, yeah.

Dean. Yeah, yeah.

I'll never forget that. And then making you laugh more and more.
I was just like, all right, yeah. Yeah, and then he showed up.
Then he came to my birthday party.

And my boyfriend at the time that I was dating was there too.

And so Tyler was there and everything. And then when the party was over at night, he like called me and he was like, hey,

can I spend the night? Well, because you were having a group, your mom let a whole big bash sleep over all the all the people, all of our all the kids hanging out. Yeah, can I spend the night too?

And I was like, Oh, let me ask my mom. Well, I didn't really ask my mom.

Nope, I was too nervous. I was so nervous.
And I thought for sure your mom said no, and I never forget thinking, like, dude, what the fuck? She lets all these rain. What the hell? What's what?

Like, I was pissed. Yeah, I know.
So I was so nervous. I was like, oh, no, she said no.
Nope. She said no.

All because you were nervous because you knew. Yeah, because I liked it.
You tested too. I was making you laugh.

And then eventually things led to another, and I broke out off with my boyfriend. And then a few weeks later, Tyler was grabbing my hand in the middle of the day.

Yeah, I was like, all right, this is my moment. And it was so funny back then, literally.
Like how you would hold hands. If she doesn't let go, she wants to be with me.

Yeah, don't look at each other.

Are we holding each other?

Yeah, we're holding hands. Oh, shit.
So little and innocent. You know, funny.
It is funny. And here we are.
And here we are. 18 years later.

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Are you and Tyler going to have another baby?

No, man. I am snipped, you guys.
Yeah. They even covered this, I think, on

oh, they didn't cover it on the show. Yeah, they did.
I think they did. Yeah, they did.
Yeah. Yeah, dude.
I was sniped on snip right

no more babies I mean we definitely have the thoughts every so often where it's like crazy thoughts I would love to have another baby you know especially with all of them getting older and Ryan getting older and I'm like oh my god they're so cute and I would love to have another baby and then all of a sudden you got Ryan Vada beating the shit out of each other and screaming and crying because somebody's got their toy or whatsoever and I'm like yeah now yeah it's like the feeling goes you get all warm and fuzzy

and they're like mom damn

you're like

right down to shit. No, no.

No more kids. No, we're done.
We're done. No, I mean, if something were to happen crazy,

I would probably cry because I'm in my later, like, early, late 30s. Early, late 30s.
Yeah, you know, like, not super late, but yeah, we're done having babies.

Yeah. Snippiny snips now.
Snip, snip. All done.
Yeah. Yeah.
But I do.

Oh, God. Especially when you see other babies and they're fresh and brand new and you know they are.
And it's like,

I'm crazy to think about where it's it's like,

even though I know I wouldn't say that, I would never do that.

You know what I'm saying?

But in my mind,

in my mind, I'm just like, dude, like, I want to hold your baby. I want to hold you, baby.

Yeah, I know. Babies are cute.
I was one this morning, actually, dropping Rye off at school. Oh, really? And she carried on, she was carrying me as a binky.

And he went and just hugged the teacher, even though he's not going to school, but he's like, oh, hug, because the other one hugs. She's like, oh, hug.
That's cute. And he's like, bye.

I know. And I was like, dude.
Babies are so cute. But yeah, no, I'd probably cry because, you know,

being 33 or 34, having a baby, I think he will do it. That's what I'm saying.
And I think we had a good, we stuck to our goal, our plan. We said, all done after 30, it's a wrap.
Yeah.

Do you know what I'm saying? And I think we just. And if something were to happen, then that's just like.
That's just fate. Divine

intervention, you know, but I would probably cry at first. I would too.
I mean, we accept it, obviously. Whatever.
Obviously. And we would love it.
You know what I mean? But like. Damn.
yeah

um how was it being parents at such a young age um i feel like we were definitely young parents express like still considerably young when we had nova were we 23

so

right yeah 23 you're 23 i guess it is kind of you're right damn young yeah i guess you're right it is it is young honestly i wouldn't i personally i wouldn't i liked being a younger parent because i felt like we were so much just were more energetic we're more like let's go play let's go to the park let's do all these things um and also it's like my one of my thinking processes was like when I'm in my 40s it's gonna be my time

so yeah that's what I'm saying I want to see Caitlin dancing at the bars without the kids you know what I mean no I'm just kidding but honestly it's been good I feel like you know you also like grow up with your children and Our children teach us things on the daily.

Like we actually learn from our children too about random different things.

I mean, I wouldn't have it any other way, only because it's like we are at a stage in our life where Noah's at, she's entering, you know,

young womanhood and stuff, and we're freshly out of it. Not really fresh, but we're still like young enough.

I still get, I understand the social pressures I feel like that she's under. I can, you know, I feel like we have more.

Right, and Veda's just coming into that a little bit. Yeah, however, the flip side of that is that

the older you have a kid i think the more experienced and wise you are and how and you don't freak out about a lot of stuff

and you know you're you just you're more patient you're more slower you know any slower paced

uh and i think

there's pros to consider yeah there are because when you get older like you realize like even

you get older and you like

you realize that time is just so

Not a lot. Yeah, you don't just you don't have a lot of time.
Sure.

So you're able to like understand that when you're at an older age and really makes you like forces you almost to be present with the kids and just like really soak it all up. So I mean, I get it.

I understand having them later in life. Also, too, if you want to have it later in life, I know people want to have certain stuff in place.
I want to have my first house. Of course, right.

But sometimes it don't work out like that. Right.
Yeah. I can understand wanting to be prepared and all the things, of course.

You know, I want to know, though, like, honestly, like, how many damn kids are planned? And they can't lie. Parents, I want to do like a survey, but can't lie.
Right. You You know what I mean?

Like, really, how

many are actually planned? But I feel like even the ones that we planned ourselves, even when you get those two lines on a test, you're still freaking the fuck out.

And even when you plan it, you realize,

you know, a couple years in, whatever, that you're still growing too. You're still learning.
So

you can think that you're like, got it all figured out. to a T on a on a piece of paper plan.
But in it changes.

I remember when we first had Nova, and it was, well, when I was pregnant, we were like, we're going to do cloth diapers.

She's not gonna use a binky whatsoever because, and we're gonna breastfeed.

Idiot. And I remember telling your mom, idiot, I remember talking to your mom, and she's like, Okay.

Years down the road, his mom was like, I knew that shit was gonna fly out the window. She's like, But I just let you guys think what you wanted to think.

And that's actually great when you think about it. Like, that comes, that's the wizard I'm talking about.
I think, like, a day later, she had a binky. So I was like, fuck this.

And we never used cloth diapers, not once. Not even once.

But I remember uh actually feeling better about it because when i uh looked it up about babies or whatever like it's it's a soothing thing

he's not like a discomfort

you know there he is

going down a deep dive about what binkies are beneficial

and what it does to the neural pathways as they're soothing themselves and it's fine bro give the kid the binky yeah i don't think you know four-year-olds

should be walking around with binkies but you know whatever teach their own i don't know the kid but yeah i mean god damn don't fear the binky love the binky well Well, then it's funny because Nova, who was it?

Was Nova and Raya. They actually got rid of their binkies on their own.
Veda, it was like, we had to take it away. She loved it.

But Nova got to the point, she was like eight, nine months old, like sitting up and everything, and she'd be fussing. We'd put it in there and she spit it out.

She knew we were trying to keep her calm. Yeah, right.
And then you put it in there and she'd like, you won't

silence me. Yeah.

And so then eventually we just got rid of them all. And that's literally how she got rid of it.
Same thing with Raya. She just eventually just kept spinning it out, spinning it on.

Like, well, I'm taking it away now then until it becomes an issue. And then I remember seeing it in her crib.
Like, she wasn't even using it. No.
So I'm like, all right, you're done. You're done.

Now, Veda, she was like, that was her soothing thing. She loved it, was obsessed with it.
I was so nervous to take it away. It was not a big deal, was it?

No, it was actually way easier than I thought.

I thought she was going to freak out. You were tripping.
And I was like, babe, we got to do it now. I know.

But I felt so bad. No.

I know. She loves it.
You remember when I said, I said, we can't have one of those like weird old binky kids. No, I know.
I don't want to have some old, fucking big old giant kid with a binky. Yeah.

No, I know. Now, I know there are some, there are some kids.
There are, there are some kids out there, too, though, that have, like, disabilities and stuff that use binkies. That's different.

You know what I'm talking about. No, I know.
I just wanted to clarify for people. Like,

there are certain, obviously, reasons why a child loves to have a binky and needs one, you know? But we're talking about

saying, right. Like, Veda, she was going to be freaking like four or five years old, stuck in a binky, declaring, no, I got to take it.
Yeah, we had to do it.

And I remember being like, even if you didn't like it, I was like, I have to do it. I know, she's my daughter, I cannot have the old binky cat.
I was cared for her because she loved it so much.

No, of course they love it, you know? Yes, but it was different because we never experienced them not wanting to get rid of it. You know, no one wanted to get rid of it, so it was easy.

No, she really did. She wanted to get rid of it.
Okay, so when you were growing up, what was your dream job? Well, I wanted to be a cop at first.

I mean, because it was the closest thing I could be to Batman, so that's funny, Commissioner Gordon. That's what I'm going to be.

That's funny because mine always, like, I wanted to be a canine officer. Because the canine, yeah, that's fucking dope.
I'm going to stick my dog on your ass, you know? Like, yeah.

And I remember when I would tell my mom that, and she's like, she's like, I would be so nervous if you were a cop. You know,

well, because people do fucked up things to cops. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay. Obviously, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm like, yeah,

that was our cat. That's what was that? That was our cat jumping on their thing.
Oh, my gosh. But yeah, I always wanted to be a canine officer and like, or a vet, a veterinarian.

But then when I found out how much math you need to know to be a veterinarian, I was like, fuck that shit because I suck at math. Dude, I'm horrible at math.
But yeah, I would have loved that.

I remember back in the day, too, I always had a dream of being like a

investigator. Like a forensic person.
Yeah, like a murderer investigator. Forensic.
Yeah. But then I thought of like the really, I mean, all of it's got to be hard, but kids.

No, I listen to that. You know, like little kids and stuff, I don't think I'd be able to handle that.

Like, and I give props to people that can go out there and, because I know it takes a toll on them, too, mentally. But, like, dude,

I don't think I'd be able to handle seeing little kids. And I think when you're little, you think, like, oh, I'll be a, you know,

I'm going to be a detective then.

That catches killers.

But, dude, you got to see some, you see some wild ass shit. Yeah, that, you know, like stuff that's going to traumatize.
Right.

Or like the murder suicides or people are like killing themselves and their whole family.

Like, I mean, like I said, like I said, I give props to people that do that job because i know it has to play a a role on like your mental health pretty much every cop should just be in therapy and it should be free yeah and it should be free it should be completely paid for yeah subsidized for sure join us for cycle to zero a legacy event from aids life cycle benefiting san francisco aids foundation cycle from san francisco to guerneville and explore sonoma by bike may 29th to the 31st you can ride for all three days join us for just day two or even register as a volunteer crew member.

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This is a good one. Advice for parents of kids with sensory issues, because we have one like that.

And people saying

it's, so I don't know, she's not saying if it's a boy or a girl, it's a brat thing and it isn't real. Like they're just a brat.
No, no, guys, listen. That's sad.
No, and

I think if people are not exposed to children that have these sensory issues, you're not going to really understand. And maybe you will think, oh, little bratty kid.
I'm sorry.

If anybody were to come to me and say Vada's being a brat because she's having a sensory freak out, I'm going to probably fucking smack the shit out of you. Well, I mean, no, for real, but I.
I know.

Like, who the fuck are you to say that? But they don't know if it's a sensory issue, as I'm saying, from an outside. They're looking at a kid having a fit, you know what I'm saying?

They're not going to know it's a sensory thing they're just gonna think oh this kid's completely freaking out having a fit I've had to say at places before like you know she struggles with sensory issues oh really I mean absolutely I will voice that I mean of course of course I agree with voicing it I'm just saying um that it isn't real

How do you know it's not real? I'm the parent. I know.
And I had her diagnosed or looked at. You know what I mean? And sensory issues can look so different.
Like, Vadel will freak out.

Like, if she's, we have a big dog. He dribbles water on the floor.
If she steps in it, she's freaking out.

If there's a certain smell in the house that she doesn't like, she will literally cry and freak out. Yeah.

Loud noises. She doesn't like it.
And it's not, I think, and when we see,

we're the parents of that child that has a sensory problem. So you don't,

if you're not around it, you're not exposed to it, and your friends

don't know anything about it. I get why you would think, oh, what a brat little kid.
Right. It's like, but that's why I think it's important for parents.

I'm telling you right now, man, it's ruthless out there. Parent against parent.
I'm the right way. You're the wrong.
That's not good. This is a good.
And it's like, dude, you

are not with this child 24-7. Right.
I'm not, I could maybe have an opinion and think in my head, like, oh, wow, that kid's being blah.

But at the end of the day, I don't know what kind of day that kid had. I don't know what kind of day mom had.
I don't know what kind of day dad had.

I don't know anything other than what I'm seeing right now for two damn seconds of this whole family unit's life. You know what I'm saying?

So I can't, you know, it's wrong for me to even label the child as anything other than, oh, wow, that's their child, and I pray for the parent. You know what I'm saying? Like,

I'm sorry, you know what I mean? Like, when you almost when we became parents and got out of airplanes,

I'm like, I don't even, the kid could be curdled, screaming, crying.

I feel so bad for the mom. Oh, yeah, because you know, she's stressing, they're stressing hard, which I honestly feel like

in those moments, guys. If you're ever on an airplane or you see a parent struggling with a kid that's having a fit or something like that, please either ignore it completely.
Like, that's fine.

especially if you have but also

but also i think saying something a little encouraging to the parent so you're doing a really good job right or you know you see the ones where like people like some people take the babies and like walk for them and yeah

and the moms are like only

nowadays people are like don't touch my baby

Oh, really? Oh, yeah. I've seen videos nowadays, too.

Yeah. Like the flight attendants will

cuddle the babies and walk them. And the mom is like, that person was literally an angel.

Yeah, so I feel if you ever see a parent, instead of judging them, like whatever, and thinking whatever you want to

I think, honestly, just going up to like a struggling parent and just being like, You're doing good, you're doing good, yeah, it's okay because that's so nice to hear somebody, isn't it?

Because you like when your kids freak out, you're

stressed, and you're to drop the grocery, you drop, you know, whatever's going on, the kids having a freak out, and then someone else just comes up and just says, Hey, like, you're just you're doing a good job, it's okay.

Yeah, love that. Do you need help? It feels good, it does.
It feels even if you say, like, no, I don't want your help, creepy stranger, inside it's

like you see me, at least someone sees me in this area, right? So, it's like Because I'm trying my best, you know. People are staring and just whispering.

What are your views on watching porn when in a relationship?

Your face.

I feel like if we're not watching it together, you don't watch it. Then don't

or if you guys have some kind of agreement, like maybe the girl likes to watch it and the guy doesn't. So the guy's like, hey, if you're going to watch it, just let me know.

So at least I have the option to join or refuse and not join and let you have your good time. You know what I'm saying?

Or vice versa. You know what I'm saying? But if you're like secretly watching porn or something, that's what I'm saying.

Also, if you're doing it, if you're doing that and not engaging in physical intimacy, big, big problem. Yeah, right.

Because automatically, the other partner is going to be like, something's wrong with me. You know what I'm saying? Or I'm not fulfilling something's not right.
So I think it's like...

I say, listen, all couples, just invite the other one. So, hey, I'm feeling a little frisky.
You want to come over and watch this thing with me real quick? All right, cool. Yeah.

I can imagine like watching porn on the TV and then like getting hot and heavy.

But we're different because honestly, I would, we would get, what, two seconds into it. All right, I'm good.

They just started

weird. I don't mean

to be like, but to eat their own, like, hey, if that's what, but I also feel like, but I also think you need to respect the other partner if they're like, hey, I have a problem with this.

Like, say, like, like I said, one person likes to watch it and the other person doesn't at all. Like, how do you

allow freedom, sexual freedom for your partner, but also respecting your own self? That would be hard. I don't know.

And I think that's when it kind of comes to a thing like you got to have a compromise. Either you involve me in it or, uh,

or I don't, because I feel like, what's the core issue with it? What would be the core issue? It would it be jealousy? Would it be insecurity?

Would it be so? Is it really your partner that's causing the problem, or is it you, or is it just triggering an internal thing you have? I don't know.

I just feel like porn can be very unhealthy. I think it's really unhealthy.
Honestly, I say fuck that shit.

It's horrible. It's just not good.
I don't really. It's not how real love is.
It just ain't it. It ain't it.
You know what I mean? It's overproduced.

It's obnoxious.

Yeah. Honestly, you know what I'm for? I'm for actual, how about storytelling? How about, like, if you're going to show sex in a media form, show it real and not overproduced.

Show it like with a real story, passion and love. Is there a girl that does that? Yeah, there is.
And she's gotten awards.

She's like one of the, and she actually, like, I just saw an article, but I don't really know too much about it, but yeah, she makes like kind of like artistic films just using real sex.

And it's like, dude,

there you go. That's kind of where I feel like if you're going to put it on immediately.
That's where the shift shift is. It should shift because I'm worried about kids being raised today.

Like I just said, I was 13. Oh, look at your big old.

I couldn't imagine if we had access that the kids are now in our

kids. So what does that do? I think what it does is it releases too much dopamine too fast,

too exotic, and too chaotic all in one

thing. Things

gives you a false reality of what sex is. Exactly.
You know what I mean? And that's harmful.

That's why I feel like if you're going to do it, it makes guys feel like, oh my God, my penis isn't big enough, or I'm not doing the right thing. Or girls are like that.
It's not moaning like that.

Yeah, the girls are like, oh my God, I don't look like that. Oh, my God.
I'm not making noise. I don't like that.
Yeah. Yeah.

It creates just a horrible.

It's just a bad relationship to have.

Yeah, I don't. But if you're going to be into it and you like it, and there are people who are, it's cool, I'm all for it.
Yeah. It's just

you got to make sure you have the boundaries with the other person and it works out. And honestly, like it may come to a point where it just, hey, I like porn and you don't agree with this.
We got to,

we can't be together because it's something that I'm not willing to give up. It's just going to keep triggering stuff in the relationship.
Yeah. Yeah.

But that's why I kind of feel like instead of throwing the towel in, figure out, first off, why do you feel like you need to watch it?

And then on the other other hand,

why is it triggering for you that they want to watch it?

And then start there. And then, yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like, I don't know.
Yeah, I think I'm mean. I mean, I don't, whatever, people who do it, but like, me, I'm not into it.

You're not really into it. It's like, I'm so glad we're just

going to be able to do that.

Yeah, but I also feel like me and you aren't,

we're not lacking anything in that department. Yeah.
It's actually probably one of our most

one of the most positive things that we have. You know what I mean? Like, it's, it's a very important.
We know how important it is. We talked about it.
You know what I mean?

We established the importance of it. And I think that's what it comes down to.
We both like it. So

it's a win-win. Yeah.
So like, like I said, me and you, we maybe we could be, oh, that's chai. We would make it two minutes.
And then maybe all Rachel. You know what I'm saying? All right.

Turn on something else for background noise.

Or it's a true crime doc in the back.

No.

As you're getting

Sally, it was phone mom.

Literally, that does happen, though.

But yeah, I don't know. I feel like, but I think that topic is going to probably

get worse as time goes on only because of the access that younger kids have.

Yeah, and it's just in their pocket.

Just one Google search away. But I also think people should know the realities of what it's doing to the brain as they're watching.
It's not good. It's not good, man.
No, it's not healthy.

And it was different. When I was younger, it was magazines, still images.
And you had to sneak it. You know what I'm saying?

There's nothing. Right.

Catch a little nipple on fucking HBO Max is about all you're going to get.

You know, but like,

yeah, but I mean, I feel, I actually feel really bad for the kids nowadays because I think there's pressure to probably watch it.

Think about social groups back then. Like, oh, you don't know what a whatever is, you never did that, you know what that means? Like, you know, the kids, like, oh, I don't know what that means.

No, I don't know what that means. So, they're gonna go home and they have the ability to look it up.

You know what I'm saying? I mean, that pulls up a hole

so that way they feel like they fit in or know what they're talking about. Yeah, you know what I mean?

So, I think it's, I feel, dude, I feel horrible for the kids being a race today with that because technology can be hell, not beneficial. Yeah,

that's crazy.

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I know we haven't talked about it yet, but I know that we were going to.

And somebody did bring up the question, too. What? I mean, it was a sad day in America yesterday, regardless of how you feel about this person or his morals and or even his beliefs.

Somebody asked, you know, what our thoughts are on Charlie Kirk.

I saw the video, which I kind of wish I wouldn't have watched it because it literally made me sick to my stomach.

Do I agree with his beliefs and the way that he talks about things? No.

Did I like him as a person? No.

But like Tyler and I had the conversation yesterday, he also just, he did not deserve to die. His children did not deserve to lose their dad.
His wife has lost her freaking husband.

I mean, it's very sad. And I think it's sad that our country is in the way, is in the form of what it is.
Everybody, we should be allowed to have different views and different opinions.

I mean, it's America. And feel safe.
Yeah. Freedom of speech, like all of the things.
And for him to be doing what he always has done, which is debating, you know, young, like youth

and people in college and to get brutally murdered in cold blood in front of thousands of people, in front of his wife, and in front of his children. It is so

sad and disturbing.

It took me aback for a very long period of

yesterday and today.

Well, I think honestly, like what happened yesterday was just devastating, unnecessary.

And it's

unfortunately a perfect example of just how divided everybody is.

And not just divided in politics or policies, divided in just this lack of compassion and empathy, in this lust for hate, and to and to and to fuel the hate by getting with other people.

And that it's just like

we are lost

in our

natural, empathetic, tribal human nature. We're lost in it.
it. I don't know where it's at.
I don't know where it's been.

But it is killing people. And hatred is causing so much turmoil.
And

it's literally killing people, innocent people. Hate.
Hatred. Yeah.
Difference in opinion. Difference in beliefs.
That's what I mean. It's like, you know, killing people.

This is literally insanity because that same day, Colorado. Yeah.

School shooting, like literally watching the news and it went from, oh my God, he just got assassinated to now we're gonna break your news. We're gonna go to Denver.
I'm like, this is America, bro.

This is exactly where we're at. What the fuck is going on? This is America.
What the fuck is going on? There. Where are people's soul? Where, where is it? What's the woman on the bus? Yeah.

The woman on the bus got stabbed

in broad daylight. For no fucking reason.

Well, you know,

he quoted. He quoted in there.

And this is bigger than just, hey, it's racism. It's socioeconomic.

It's It's a lot. It's a lot of layers.
Because he literally said on that video, which I had to confirm, I was like, what is going on? He said, got that white girl. Got that white girl.

What the fuck, bro?

And this is going.

Like, I am

Hortman.

She just got... Dude, dude.
Yeah.

She was a Democratic at her house. Mm-hmm.
Turn her husband a couple weeks ago. Brutally murdered.
Brutally murdered. So, and the thing is, too, is what is happening.

And that was, and listen, and this was by a guy who was divisive in politics, you know,

ideologies and what he believed. He went to her house, freaking shot her in cold blood.

Charlie Kirk getting assassinated in front of all these kids. It's like, dude,

the woman on the bus,

even just

all the innocent children

over the world that are just getting demon.

That's what I mean.

And first, I want to start by saying, too, it's like, there are so many people in this world that I don't agree with their beliefs.

I don't agree with their morals or values, or they're different than mine.

And never once have I thought about, well, I'm just going to murder that person because I don't like what they speak about or what they preach about or whatever.

But I think, and number two is there is a gun problem in the United States of America. Are we ever going to wake the fuck up? Okay.

He just, you know, Charlie got assassinated yesterday. We have kids being killed, brutally murdered in schools.
We have, it's just like there, something needs to change.

Well, and I, and I think this goes back to even like, and I think when we talk about it being a problem, I think based off of what Charlie Cooker said in the past, he, he's okay with this kind of, he literally said there are certain deaths that need to be, that need to happen, unfortunately.

And then it took his own life

to have guns in this country and have this in this freedom, quote-unquote, freedom.

And

the irony to that is so, like, my brain is like, whoa, like the video that I saw of him saying, unfortunately, gun deaths is going to happen for citizens who are allowed to carry.

He said, there's going to be so many deaths. There's going to be so many deaths every year.
Yeah, every year. And that's a price.
It's worth it. He said, it's literally in quotations.
It's worth it.

And all I thought about was, Charlie, your kid, your daughter,

your daughter experiencing the grief and loss of not having you is not worth it. She just witnessed it.

Your wife's immense grief and loss was not worth it. And I really firmly believe

on the other side of this, I think his soul is saying it was not worth it. Because I'm telling you, there's no way you can look at

the mother of that elementary school shooting that happened so many years ago and say, you know what? It's worth it.

It had to happen. So I can't.

I'm sorry that it had to happen, but we really like our guns. We want our guns.
Because, yeah, and you're right. And I bet you right now, his wife and his children are saying, no, it's not worth it.

I just lost my husband. I literally watched my husband get assassinated in front of me.
My children watched it.

His children deserve to have their dad. His wife deserved to have her husband.
Like, I don't understand why someone automatically.

Yeah, it's sad, babe. I know.

yeah. I mean, Melissa, Melissa Hortman, the girl who she

like, what are we doing?

I don't know what we're doing.

You guys, we've got, listen, all this stupid shit, and I swear, social media is just fueling it intensely.

This hatred, this divide, and this fucking stupid shit that we're so obsessed with is not helping. It's creating such hatred that is so toxic and infectious that it is killing people.

It is taking children's fathers. It is killing children.
It is taking children away from parents.

Sad. It is, dude.
We have got to, everyone needs to just chill out.

No, some laws need to change. Something needs to change.
Well, no, I mean, chill out with your obsession with having this right to bear arms. Just listen.

Other countries, this is not happening. Yeah.
Okay?

This is not happening. No, they're not shooting schools up in other.
We are. That's like what I saw one person talk about in the UK.

He's like, we had one massive school shooting, which killed so many kids. And that was it.

That was it. The UK made all these strict laws.
You had to turn in your guns, like all this shit. So I think.
And he goes, and we've never had one ever since then.

Well, I know Australia the same thing. Yeah.

And

listen, you can agree or not agree. That's fine.
But this is just what I, but this is what I believe. I really believe that we need to shift our priorities, okay? Are we going to protect this right?

And how many people are going to die for this right? So many,

how many?

How many more? What is the number?

There has been 300 mass shootings in 2025 already, over 300 and counting. Well, and then what? What the fuck? When you woke up this morning, you were in the kids' mindset.
Oh, my God.

I woke up this morning, guys. This is how, this is why, I mean, all of it's intense for me right now, obviously, for everybody.

But, like, I woke up, got the kids ready for school on my local news in Michigan as I'm getting the kids ready.

On top of, you know, watching the news about Charlie Kirk and all the stuff happening with that, and they're updating everything. And then all of a sudden, they go, Oh, live, breaking news now.

Uh, three people shot in Port Huron.

What? That's pretty close to us. And I was like, What the?

And you said that there were kids that got shot? Yeah, there was.

Well, that's the last thing I heard. I don't know if it's true or I don't, I'm not, but for it to be on the news, and they're talking about it.
Yeah, it's like every

single day, something is happening with guns. Why is this happening? Oh my god.
And guys, I don't know what the answer is. I really don't.
But I'll be honest with you.

And listen, and I here's my thing. I don't even know if stricter gun laws will work.
But guess what? I'm willing to try. Yeah.
Okay. Can we try it? Right.
Can we just give it a shot? Because what

is happening right now is not working. Clearly, it's not working.
And I'm curious on how this gun got acquired.

So hopefully the investigation and they figure it out. But what I'm saying is that, listen, guys, like I said, I'm not telling you, hey, stricter gun laws is the answer.

I'm saying I'm willing to just give it a shot. Can we just try? Right.
And see what happens. Can we just, can we just try? Right.
Bro. We, because, because right now,

I don't care. Listen, guess what?

Charlie Kirk got assassinated in Utah, and there were guns there. People are allowed to carry in Utah.
Do you know what I'm saying? Right. So, I mean, he's still, he still died.
Yeah.

The other school that shooting that just happened a couple weeks ago. Yeah.

They were all out of carry. Everyone's allowed to carry, but people are still dying.
So it's not the answer. I don't think they're putting more security guards and putting more.

I'm just like, dude. Something needs to change.
And like you said, I'm willing to, why not just try it as a country and see what happens?

And it's like if the which obviously the president and people like all over there, there's a fucking problem. Okay.

And if you all can't see that there's a fucking problem, then you're part of the problem. What? Because

we should be able to go to an event, okay,

and speak about conflicting beliefs with one another and debate one another without the fear of being killed because somebody doesn't agree with my belief.

We should be able to kiss our kids goodbye in the morning and send them to school and not worry, constantly worry about them being killed in a space where they're supposed to be safe, okay?

I mean, there has been times with things going on in the country where I have kissed my kids goodbye in the morning and sent them on the bus, and then I was riddled with anxiety because it's just you're sending them into the unknown because nothing is fucking changing.

And as an American, I'm fucking over it. I'm done.
That's why I said, listen, guys, I'm not telling you what the answer is. I don't even know what the answer is.
I'm not over it.

But I am willing to roll the fucking dice. Yeah.
Because too many people are dying. Yeah.
Please. And also.
You're a fucking gun. And honestly, and I know the biggest argument is mental illness.

Okay, for sure. Like I said, said, I'm not telling you about the answers.
Okay, fine. Let's go down that rabbit hole.
The mental illness.

Okay, if that's what it is, then we need to not cut funding that supports the mental health of this country. Which they already did.

But it's an important thing to like, hey,

you want to say, hey, well, it's not the guns, it's the mental illness. And then support an administration that's actively cutting

funding for mental health that supports mental health crisis situations. Right.
This is something we need to.

And also, people need to realize, too, though, that in some states, it doesn't matter. They don't do any testing, nothing.

If you're a certain age, you can legally just go in, buy a gun, and conceal carry without having a license to do so. Okay.
Like in Utah. It's insane.

Are they allowed to license? Are they allowed to open carry? Huh? What is Utah? It was concealed.

They said it yesterday that in Utah, people, if you're 18 years old or 18, you can buy a gun and you can conceal carry even on a school campus. What? Yes.
Are you serious? Wow. Yeah.

A lot of individuals 21 to order openly or 21? Okay.

Yeah. 21 openly concealed carry a farm without a permit.
Yes. Yeah.

So you know what I mean? Like, please. And listen, guys.

Florida, where my dad lives.

Where my dad lives. Same thing.
You can own a gun and you can conceal carry and not have a permit to do so. You can just conceal carry that bitch anywhere.

Like, they don't do no background checks, no nothing. You go in, you buy a gun.
You know what I mean?

And I guess the question, people go, oh, put more security, put more scanners, metal detector, whatever. Is that the America you want to live in?

Do you want to live in having to walk through metal detectors everywhere you go? Do you want to live with spending millions and billions of dollars on more security guards? Do you want to live...

No,

I also don't want to send my kid to a school that looks like a fucking prison with security guards and shit everywhere.

We should be able to go places freely without having the fucking fear of being brutally shot to death. Yeah, I mean, it's pretty.

It happens every

concerts. It happened just yesterday with Charlie Kirk just having debates with people.
It happens at school where little babies are getting fucking shot. You know, like, I'm, I'm over it.

I'm, sometimes I get to the point where it's like, I'm going to fuck, I need to, I'm going to move.

You know what I mean? Like, I'm serious. No, I mean,

like, somebody, I'm like, I need to get the fuck out of here. And I also feel like for people who are not involved or want, not wanting to be involved, I understand your position.
I get it.

But it comes to a point in time when it's like, you can't. You can't leave the fire to put it out.
You got to be in it and you have to be actively working and trying to

limit the spread.

But I feel like no matter how much we scream it, and I see people screaming it of like, we need change, we need change, we need change, while you have these fucking idiots just saying like, thoughts and prayers, thoughts and prayers.

Thoughts and prayers don't fucking work. Yeah, it's not working.
It never works. It's not working at all.
So is that what you're saying to this daughter who just lost her dad in front of her eyes?

Oh, thoughts and prayers, honey. Hopefully you'll get better.
Or the moms and dads that literally lost their kids while they were at school. Oh, thoughts and prayers.
That's not fucking changing shit.

Like, it pisses me off. I know.

Well, I think that's what I'm saying. I'm over it.
Yeah, I think this brings up a whole different kind of conversation how

we need to move forward. But I think this happens all the time.
Every other day, there's something, oh, we need to do it.

It's like, I'm just done. I guess I'm done with the current things.
Like I said, either you make it so damn, you know, thorough, I don't care if it's a two-year investigation before you can own one.

I don't care, whatever you got to do, like, if you got to reform the approval process to get the gun, sure, whatever.

Like I said, I'm not telling you what the answer is.

I'm just willing to try because it's not worth it. So let's just do this.
Let's see what happens, guys. Can you see what happens? And

people won't agree with. I mean, I know some people.
Oh, they're going to hate us for this,

which is fine.

That's just my beliefs and morals. And I would rather, like I said, send my kids to school or have debates in a place.
And listen, this is a Kate and Ty podcast. Listen, this is how.

So I'm not, like I said, I invite all people to be here, share this space. Right, but my belief is.
But this is, this is it. I don't know what else to say.

My feeling is there should be no assault rifles available to the public whatsoever. I don't agree with it.
It's not fucking necessary. No.

Especially because it's like, dude, you're not taking an AK and going hunting deer like Twitter. No.
And we're not in fucking wars.

And I also feel like.

No, I agree. But I also feel like for certain marksmen and people that want to do it certain ways, then there needs to be control facilities.

If we're going to lock up all of our people in prison, if we're going to lock up criminals in our prison systems and spend money on that shit, I'm pretty sure we could have a little wing department, whatever, where it's like, you want to do it in sport, you go there,

you rent one, you do the rain, whatever you got to do.

Like I said, and this is just me thinking on the top of my head, right? I don't know what the answer is, but I'm willing to try. Like I said, I'll keep saying it over and over again.

And I hope someone, you know, I hope something eventually happens.

We need to go out there. Everybody needs to go out there and we need to start calling our representatives.

We need to start voting and we need to put in the fucking footwork, I guess, in order there for there to be changed because nothing's happening. Well, it's all we can do.

Honestly, that's what I'm saying. Like, I uh

um like I said, I think it comes down to like when people they get so um

they almost get so

like attached and married to their they almost like make their whole personality attached to a cause, right? And I feel like there could be that intense

passion for that cause can cause blindness.

It can cause blinders to go up and

you can get lost in it. And so I feel like.

So I feel like it's important for everyone on both sides of the aisle for everyone to just really like, like, like

try to jump to the other side and just view, zoom out and just be open-minded, think, and just, you know, like, don't be so

hard for some people. Yeah, but don't be so reliant on this

like ideology, I guess, or whatever you want to call it. Like, don't be so married to it.
Like, be a, be, be, um, willing to adapt to change. Be willing to listen to new ideas.

Unfortunately, there's just a lot of closed-minded people in this world, too.

You know what I mean? Like, it just, it sucks. It's shitty.
There needs to be change. And, um,

I feel horrible for everybody that was affected yesterday because not only was it his family, but it was everybody that was there and witnessed what happened to.

And

it was unnecessary. It didn't have to happen.
No, it's sad.

I don't think anyone, like you said, going to a school, going to a concert, going to a public event, going to a speaking, whatever, no one should have to worry about dying there.

No, it happens all the time. No, it is crazy.
Our obsession with this

right that, by the way, was written when the average time to load a gun was you look it up. You know what I mean? Like, you had to take it, file it.
I mean, it was so, yeah, um, yeah,

so I don't know. Well, that was kind of that was we don't usually get that heavy with stuff, honestly.
So, sorry, guys, if you're listening, like, what the

we don't usually get that, but I just felt like it's so fresh and that question happened, and yeah, um, there just needs to be changes, um, and but honestly, I want to elaborate on the fact that um, hatred is creating hatred, and the it's like the you're not able

your ability to withstand an opposing opinion or viewpoint is critical,

critical to us continuing to evolve as a species, as human beings, right? You have, what is your ability to withstand someone else's viewpoint and hear it in, you know what I mean?

And whatever. Healthy

talk about it. But that comes with all things, not just like

political stuff. I'm talking about even this whole, the last episode with homeschooling.
I mean, it is, the hatred is insane.

The back and forth with that's not right and you're stupid and you're wrong and I am.

It's like, dude, this hatred though, guys. Something needs to change.
What is happening? And why are we so obsessed with this? Can't we just be kind to one another?

And say, oh, I don't really agree with that, but I, but if it works for you, it's great. Or agree to disagree.
Because you know, people actually thought that I was again, like, I was saying, like.

People think that I was saying I'm against parents who homeschool. I'm like, dude, I also never, I never said that.
Right.

I literally asked a genuine question of how do you eliminate bias or minimize it when you're, when you're, you know, the teacher and the parent.

And what we said was like, would it work for our family? No. Yeah.
And that's okay. Yeah.
You know? But I think I said that and it's like,

whoa, actually. Because people aren't fully fucking listening.
No, that's why.

Well, it makes me think about like, okay, so I'm sitting here telling you, you know, telling you what I feel and then asking a question.

And just by me telling you how I feel and asking a question, you literally rise up and say, I'm your enemy now, and I will destroy you with this opinion of mine.

It's like, whoa, dude, I literally, I think it'd be different if I was like, Well, uh, parents who homeschool are stupid, you know, or I'll say, Parents who homeschool are shitty ass parents, or whatever.

Like, that, okay, I would say that, that would, that would call for, um,

I would expect some hate from that, right?

But the fact of people are so quick to jump to the oppositional viewpoint and then just spew it out and not with education behind it, not with grace, you're doing it aggressively.

You're doing it to cause pain and hurt and cause discourse, to argue online. It's weird.
It's really weird. It's disturbing.

Like a part of me is like, dude, it just goes back to we are in such a state of a culture,

an empathy war. It's like people, I mean, that's what I feel.
I feel like we're losing.

We are. We're losing it.
What's going on? I don't know, but some things, guys, I don't care what you believe, what creativity. We all meet in the streets and fucking kumbaya.

We are all the same species. We are the same.
Right. What is going on?

Can't we love each other for our differences? You know, I can love you and not agree with you. It's cool.
It's great.

There's multiple times that I did a live about the homeschooling thing.

I even said, I was like, I love that you're standing firm for you, you're standing in your beliefs, and you're doing it in a respectful way. Other people, not so much.

And listen, I'll be honest with you, you can go on my comments and you can argue all you want.

I lose all respect when you purposely

say words to cause harm.

I, I, I, you lost respect. I'm not even gonna debate with you anymore.
I'm not gonna talk to you.

You know what I'm saying? So, it's like

as Johnny would call them, they crash out, sure, yeah, exactly. That's what it feels like.

Even if it starts out kind of,

everyone gets it gets insane quickly. I'm like, dude.
So, I, by the way, like, I, if you can't

talk to me with grace, understanding, and, and, and, and facts and be respectful. Because you're respectful.

I never respond to people and go,

you're not respectful about it. And I make sure I am.
Because it's like, I'm not trying to have an ugly argument. No.
We're having a conversation that's open. Right.
Dude, it's cool. So, I don't know.

It's just been a lot. And

if all of you, if all everybody that's listening, just can we just be kind to one another, please? That'd be great. Yeah, go do something today.
Go, go, go. I don't even know.
Buy someone's coffee.

Can you just like, like I said, you see a parent struggling, pat them on the back, say, you're doing a really good job. Right.

If you see somebody who looks pretty, say, oh my God, you look so beautiful today.

You know, or just make somebody smile, please. Can we just spread love?

And

because I'm ready for this to stop. And wow, yeah, I'm sorry, you guys.
This was an interesting thing. I know.
I didn't mean to. We didn't mean to get, but I don't know what's going on.

You know, it is what it is. It's how we believe it's not.
But I also want, but I also, like, we're still new at this podcasting thing.

And I also want to put it out there that, like, you know, I am not not looking to appease anybody. No.
Okay. I'm just speaking.

Kate and Ty break it down. And if I'm totally, and I actually support you and want you to leave if anything we say offends you, hurts you, you don't like, you don't agree, whatever, you please exit.

Yeah. Exit.
Yeah. I support you.
I encourage you. You can't agree to disagree or whatever.

Yeah, right.

Yeah. I encourage you to just exit and

we'll be fine. I'll be fine.
You'll be fine. Yeah.

But this is a space that I want to make sure that whoever's listening, like, this is a place of love, compassion, empathy, kindness, understanding, curiosity. Yeah.
That's it.

And so, yeah.

So, you know, let's try to make some change happen in the world. And

thank you guys for joining us and, you know, watching us get a little emotional about the whole situation, but it's a lot.

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