Club Shay Shay - Ralph Barbosa Part 1

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You meet Chappelle, did he give you any advice?

He was like, Man, I'm not like no teacher, nothing like that.

But if there's anything you want to talk about, just hit me up.

When I closed the deal with Netflix, I asked him, What are the do's and don'ts?

or like, what's the general direction I should go in now?

And he sent me like four or five mini paragraphs.

And I was like, this is what I recommend you do.

Thanks to that, I had a good Netflix special.

All my life, been grinding all my life.

Hello, welcome to another episode of Club Shay Shay.

I am your host, Shannon Sharp.

I'm also the proprietor of Club Shay Shay.

Stopping by for conversation and a drink today.

He's a rising star, star, one of the best young comedians working right now.

He was nominated as one of Variety's 10 best comics to watch.

People of all ages love his down-to-earth humor.

Some say he's the funniest comedian in Texas.

Writer, entertainer, headliner across the country, internet sensation.

Here he is, Ralph Barbosa.

How you doing, Chase?

Yeah.

How was that intro?

You like that intro?

I mean, did I do you right?

Mr.

Shannon, that is a good intro.

Did I leave off anything?

Nah, I think it may be a little overhyped.

Let me ask you a question.

When you hear me reading off of the accolades that you've earned,

what goes through your mind?

I need to get to work.

You need to do more work.

Yeah, anytime somebody says something nice about me, it kind of motivates me to just make sure I can live up to it.

Can I say something real quick?

You absolutely.

We're rolling, right?

Yeah, we're absolutely.

I just want to say, yes, I'm wearing my grills right now.

Yeah.

But I'm doing it as a promotion for my buddy Ken.

Ken Flores was the first comedian to wear grills on stage and in his special.

And it's streaming on Hulu.

May he long live Ken Flores.

Okay.

He passed away recently, but he lives forever on YouTube, on Hulu.

Look him up on Hulu.

All right, Ken Flores.

That's what I was about to ask you, your Hulu special.

Tell us a little bit about it.

Yeah.

Hulu.

Made an offer and I liked it a lot.

So the Hulu came, the Hulu made your offer.

Is that how you got the grill, or you had the grill first?

Nah, the offer came first.

We had to tape the special to get the grill.

Okay, you tape the special to get the grill, okay?

Yeah, who nah, Hulu, they, you know, they had this big plan because they didn't produce their own comedy specials at first.

Right.

So, they reached out to so many comedians to get them like on board.

And

this was the first year they do it.

So, it's like one comedian releases their special like each month.

So, August is my month.

My special release is August 8th.

And you excited?

Yeah, I'm excited.

I'm nervous.

I'm anxious.

I'm everything.

So when Hulu said, you know what, they reached out to your representative.

It's like, man, we really want Ralph to do a special.

When you got the call from your agent, what's going through your mind?

And you're like, did you have an idea kind of where you wanted to go?

So I just want to know when he picks up the call and say, hey, Ralph, I got a call from Hulu.

Hulu wants you to do a special.

They're doing this thing where they're going to have a comedian do a special each month.

In one of the months, months they want rap to do it well at first i'm like hulu

they don't do no specials man right but i mean it seemed worth the risk i

i had had an appearance on hbo already i had i had uh you know youtube sets go viral i had my netflix appearance already i was like we might as well go go for another you know what i mean so yeah and i mean they

they had like a good plan like they they told us what their plan was and

i I didn't feel like we could go wrong.

Then they showed me the list of other comedians that also signed up.

And I was like, well, they're doing the hell.

Yeah, let's go.

I'm down.

Yeah.

If they're jumping off a bridge, let's jump.

Let me ask you this.

Because I'm not a

comedian, you know, historian or anything like that.

But you mentioned Ken Flores.

George Lopez is another famous Hispanic comedian.

That, I mean, who did you draw inspiration from when you were were growing up?

Did you always want to be a comedian?

Yeah, I always wanted to be a comedian.

I wanted to be a comedic actor, though.

Okay.

Yeah, I wanted to be like, like Adam Sandler.

Okay, yeah.

Okay.

Or I wanted to be like on skits.

Like I really liked, you know, Chappelle show skits, Saturday Night Live skits.

So I went to an acting class because I read online that Adam Sandler did acting school.

Yeah.

So I went to one at a community college.

I couldn't go to the one he went to.

And I was horrible at it.

My acting teacher was like,

Yeah,

why do you, you know, why do you want to do this?

Whatever.

I mean, he was like supportive and everything, but I told him I just wanted to be like a funny actor.

And he told me that a lot of the funny actors, they do other types of comedy too, like improv and stand-ups.

Yeah, he told me about like open mics, and I bombed really bad, but I also got like obsessed with it right off the bat.

So I was like, Man, I'm just stick to that.

I didn't go back to the acting class,

say that open mics.

Right.

You're from, you're from Dallas.

Yes, sir.

Does that mean you're a Cowboys fan?

I mean, like, yeah, by default.

I don't watch a lot of of football, but I'm a Cowboys fan.

You Cowboy Dallas.

That's where I'm from, man.

So, y'all, y'all, so Super Bowl this year.

Yeah, every year is our year.

Yeah, I know that.

But it ain't been y'all year for a minute, though.

It's been 30 years.

Were you alive?

What about dude, Shannon?

I was just about to ask you, were you alive when the Cowboys won the last Super Bowl?

I almost feel like they're bad look charms.

They stopped winning after I was born.

Don't laugh at me.

What about the Mavericks?

Are you a Mavericks fan?

Yeah, I'm a Mavericks fan.

Okay, you're a Mavericks fan.

You find out they're trading Luca.

What goes through your mind?

A bunch of cuss words.

A bunch of bad stuff about the new owner.

And then tears.

Because he didn't even want to go.

It's like when your mom has

a new boyfriend and you like him a lot, but then she dumps him or like she cheats on him.

Like, bro, we finally had one.

Yeah, we had one.

he he wanted to be here yeah he wanted to be yeah you ran him off and now and and then it's worse because i don't like the lakers it's like of all the people the lakers yeah horrible that's like if your chick starts banging your worst enemy like

that just hurt and then lakers fans are all supporting him now yeah

but but you know you know l a they got a big they got a big community man because i mean you should like that they got a big humanity a hispanic community y'all got something to bond though like when you had luca Lucas, now they got Luca.

I love that LA has a big Hispanic community, and I love LA.

Yeah, but you know what?

And I know I'm gonna get a lot of hate over this.

Teams-wise,

I don't like the Lakers.

Why you don't like the Lakers?

I like the Celtics.

I want to infiltrate the cities that have a smaller Hispanic population.

I want all the Mexicans to move to Boston.

That's a long commute, bro.

Okay, but think about it like this, Mexicans,

who are going to cross, you know, maybe you're planning to cross tomorrow.

The further you go up north, the harder it is for them to catch you.

That being said, look, I want to show you this is my automotive channel.

Okay.

We got these shirts available online if y'all want one.

What did it say?

Let me see what it is.

Oh, wait.

Where?

Stay right here.

Can you see it?

Can you see it?

Okay.

They can't deport us if they can't catch us.

Yeah.

Damn.

That's our automotive channel.

It's called Formula Bean.

Let me ask you a question.

What happens if they actually catch one of y'all and somebody got that shirt on on camera when Ice has you guys in handcuffs?

I just go work out for you.

I don't think you're going to sell any more shirts.

We'll go down even more popular.

It's better to go down on camera, you know?

Oh, but goodness.

Let me ask you, okay.

Luca goes to the Lakers.

What if LeBron went to the Mavericks?

I mean, I'd want to just to get even,

but I don't even think a lot of L.A.

fans would even care.

They'd be like, so what?

We got Luca, like, he's younger.

Yeah, true.

I don't know.

I don't know how much longer.

So you spiteful.

You vengeful.

That's the whole thing.

You vindictive.

If I wasn't vindictive, I wouldn't have a career right now.

I'm still, every time I'm getting on stage, I still think about open micers from 10 years ago that pissed me off.

What happened open mic 10 years ago?

Oh, just people who like, maybe other comedians who booed me or something.

The other comedians who

Yeah, my first time on stage, I got booed by other open micers.

Come on, bro.

Well, look, I thought y'all were supposed to support each other.

For the most part, we do, but it was like my first open mic ever.

Sign up was like at 5 p.m.

Mike starts at 8 p.m.

By the time I go up, it's like one in the morning.

There's like, there's the host, the guy who's hosting the mic, and then there's like another local comic open micer, and then his buddy were there.

And so he was just on after me, but he was drunk at that point.

So by the time I get up there and I just start talking, he's like, get the f off.

And so I was like, all right, this is my time.

So you cut your set short?

I mean, open mic, what do you get?

Five minutes, 10 minutes, maybe?

At 1 a.m., you get three minutes.

Three minutes.

So you could, hold on, you only had three minutes.

And he got up there.

He was already, you know, a little inebriated.

I got about a minute, 15, minute, 20.

And

you cut your own set short.

My first like year of comedy, anytime anybody would yell, I would get off stage.

i would get nervous damn but you know it's like repetition now i'm on stage so much that if people talk to me like

i i'm more comfortable i'm way more comfortable than anybody in the audience right the stage like it don't matter what stage it is any stage and i think any comic will agree after you do it so many times the stage is like your house right how you gonna talk to me in my house right so it's fun now you know what i you know what i like about you ralph is that because every most of the comedians that i've had up here oh they've never been booed they started off and they were already already at the level they are now.

They almost like, it seemed, make it seem like they started off at that level.

And you were here because like, man, when I went to Over Mike, man, I got booed.

There weren't but four people in the house, and one of them was supposed to come on after me, and he booed me.

Every comedian is lying.

Every comedian is lying.

I don't care who you are.

Your first year is trash.

Yeah.

And maybe it wasn't as trash as mine or as the next comedian.

But you had to build a start from somewhere.

Yeah.

If you were that funny in your first year of comedy, you would have already been touring in your first year of comedy.

Something would have popped off.

Right.

what was it like growing up in Dallas I technically grew up in in Mesquite which is like a suburb of Dallas okay and I spend a lot of my weekends in Oak Cliff which is like a hood of Dallas okay but it was like in Oak Cliff they make fun of me for being in Mesquite okay yeah because you know mesquite was kind of

For people that were actually from the hood, Mesquite was like a nice neighborhood.

But to white people, Mesquite was still trash.

So I feel like I couldn't win.

So being in the Mesquite, if you're like, it's a nice area if you're there.

But if you're not from Mesquite, they're like, bro, what?

Where you from?

Oh.

Ooh.

I don't know how to explain it.

And then I'm like a block away from Dallas, like to from the county line.

There's no difference.

Like, there's not a big difference.

But because I was a block away, if Dallas people would hear me claim Dallas, they'd be like, you're not from here.

Yeah.

You're from across the street.

You're from Mesquite.

But then I got on Netflix and everybody was like, you know, he's from Dallas, right?

So

once you started popping, then they wanted to claim you.

Yeah.

county lines didn't matter no more.

I raised your grandmother raised you.

My grandmother raised me.

I mean,

I don't know your situation with your mom, but what was that experience like with grandmas?

Because grandmas are normally a little bit more strict than moms.

My grandma was not.

From what I hear, my grandma and my grandpa were really strict and tough on my mom and my uncle.

But to me, they were like the best parents in the world.

And soup, like spoiled me.

My grandma, as soon as school would be out my grandma would take us down to mexico she would drive like me and my cousin and sometimes i'll take like a friend and then she would go to like

uh because we we'd visit like three different cities we got family like in three different cities in mexico so she would drive to like the furthest city out to pick up more of my cousins damn and then bring us to the city where she had a house

i mean you picking up a lot of people we're in a single cab pickup truck just riding in the bed of the truck through mexico

over there that's cool like they they don't trip on that We did that when we were younger, Ralph, but we were working.

We were going to the fields.

Dang.

Yeah.

How old are you?

That was a long time ago.

57.

Oh.

Yeah.

I don't, people still, I mean, I haven't seen people still riding the bed of a pickup truck.

Yeah.

I mean, I don't know.

I mean, I live out in the country, so out there, yeah.

So you have a pickup truck.

Yeah.

We had a few.

One of them runs.

But yeah, we used to go.

You used to go with spare parts.

My grandma used to take us to Yell at Prostitutes in Mexico.

What?

Yeah.

So, like, she would take us to the movies.

And it's a border town we'd be at.

It's called Matamoros.

So she'd take us over to Brownsville, Texas to go to the movies.

Right.

And then she'd take us back across.

And it'd be about like 11 p.m.

And she'd take us to a park.

And we'd be out there at the park.

And then after that, she'd take us to like a little corner store where they got women in bikinis that serve you like liquor and stuff.

Yeah.

And we weren't buying liquors, though.

We're just buying like chips and sodas.

Oh, I thought you were talking about buying something else.

But one time I yelled at one of the bikini ladies to call me.

So then my grandma started driving around to like where there would be like hookers and stuff.

And then we'd all just yell, let me get your number and stuff.

And then she would drive off.

And she would just laugh.

I had a great childhood.

Granny was like that, huh?

Yeah.

She was fun.

Why do you feel that?

And I feel this exact same way, that grandparents are so

instrumental in minority communities?

I don't know.

I think within minority communities,

and I'm not trying to

disrespect white people, maybe it's not a

good idea.

Maybe it's not the money thing.

Maybe it's like a money thing, but I think that

when you have less,

you cherish your family more.

So I think maybe

the grandparents get a lot wiser in minority communities.

I think in minority communities, our grandparents were the first to realize that

if you raise your kids right, you can spoil your grandkids.

But if you spoil your kids, you'll end up raising your grandkids.

Correct.

So I think my grandma knew, like, all right, well, I got to raise them now.

But at the same time, like, hey, my kids, I can spoil them.

Because he gets bad.

I send him back to his mom and dad.

Yeah.

Oh, man.

Let me ask you this.

You said

your girlfriend parents never argued in front of her.

My ex-girlfriend.

Your ex-girlfriend.

But your parents,

they could, what they say, okay, he's around now.

Let's go.

I think sometimes my grandpa would argue with my grandma in front of me on purpose.

Why?

I think he would do it to be like, look, this is what you need to be like.

He wanted to show you he was the man.

And then my grandma would do it because she'll be like, look, this is what you don't need to be like.

I don't know.

I would just ignore them.

But it's hard to ignore them because my room was right in front of the living room.

So I hear everything.

Right.

What were some of the things they would argue about?

You coming in late, maybe some bills didn't paid, maybe this or that.

My grandpa, as he got older, started, I think, losing

his authority.

So like he used to be the type to, I mean, he was always the type to tell my grandma, like, where you at?

You You need to be home at this time.

Like, I need my dinner.

I need this, whatever, right?

But as I started getting older, as I was like a teenager, my grandma would meet up with all her old lady friends from the neighborhood and from down the street or whatever, and play a you ever played Loteria?

It's like Mexican bingo, but instead of numbers, it's like little pictures.

Okay.

And they'll, and her and her friends will play till like two, three in the morning.

What?

They'll take little cigarette breaks and they'll go back and they're gambling, like a little dollar game, two dollar games.

And so my grandpa would be mad.

He would be calling her and calling, blowing up her phone, like she needs to come home.

And one day she just like stopped.

She was just like, man, I don't care.

So they would argue about that.

Sometimes, like, she'll get home and he'll be mad.

Or the next day he'll be mad, telling her, like, you can't be doing that.

But she was like, man, I don't give a damn no more.

I tell you,

is it true that you would get in trouble at school?

The teachers would call home.

call your house and then you would translate for your grandmother what they were saying in Spanish, which actually wasn't what they were saying.

That really only happened like one time.

But every couple of times that I would have to translate anything, like even if I wasn't in trouble, my grandma would assume that I was in trouble, but she also wouldn't really care.

My mom, my mom lives with us too.

My mom would just move out sometimes and then come back and stuff.

My mom, when she was living with us, she would be the one to be more mad about like if I got in trouble.

Right.

So my grandma would tell me, like, if you're in trouble, just call my phone.

Like,

because she wouldn't understand them anyway.

She'd be like, oh, okay.

Like, we'll talk about it and then, like, just whatever, hang up.

So, like, she didn't even care.

So, you, but you translated, you're like, oh, yeah, girl, my was good.

They said I got good grades, or they said I was well-behaved.

But, were you, were you a class clown?

Were you always funny?

So, how did you, how did you stumble, or did you stumble upon this comedic side of you?

Did you know you always wanted to be a comedian?

How did that come about?

I knew, I knew I wanted to be a comedian, but

I was only a class clown in some classes.

Right.

As a kid, I was always nervous about my voice.

I was insecure about the way I sounded when I talked.

I felt like I sounded goofy, like, like in a bad way.

Right.

I had a friend named Alex.

I have a friend named Alex Roses, and he's always really handsome, and he talked real like suave.

And I would be like, bro, I want to talk like how you talk.

But when I talk, people don't really take me serious.

So what I would do, especially when I got to like high school, is on the first couple of weeks of school, I would test the waters and I would try to throw a joke out there or something.

And if they laughed, well, I know I could be a class clown in this class.

And if they didn't, then I just wouldn't talk.

But I didn't like my voice enough to just conversate with anybody.

I also was nervous to talk to people one-on-one conversation.

So I wouldn't talk unless it was like something goofy to say.

But if they weren't really laughing at my jokes, then I just wouldn't talk the whole year in that class.

Your grandmother grew up in Mexico.

You grew up in Mesquite, close to Dallas, things of that nature.

did you spend a lot of time in mexico as a child other than just going you know your grandmother going you taking you back and forth and did you spend like say three weeks or a month or anything yeah i'll spend like three months over there every summer like the whole summer over there what was that experience like what what is the difference between mexico and say you know you say you spend a little time in brownsville because that's the border town laredo all that's close down there so what what's it like in mexico compared to where you were growing up in in mesquite dallas uh the the we're from like the like the coast our family is near the coast so it was like what's the name of that uh tamaulipas okay and so we're like at the beach a lot

all the time okay so you know we're always swimming it's it's it's funner over there even like

you know maybe my cousin's houses weren't as nice as like our house back in the states right to use like our house but it was like it was funner you learn you learn to i guess to get a little humbled

uh the little town that my cousin is from is called las lomas

And it's almost like a

kick your shoes off type of vibe.

Like the whole little town, everybody knows everybody.

It's a dirt road town.

I could walk barefoot, shirtless through the whole town.

Right.

Like, you got to move to the side so the herd of cows can walk through.

It's cool, man.

You see the beach right there.

I would say the difference is right there, you just be.

more casual.

Whereas over here, like if I walk around without a shirt, people probably think I'm on drugs or something.

They do.

If I'm barefoot and shirtless.

Oh, oh, yeah, for sure.

Absolutely.

So, like, I don't know out there, it's just you feel a little more relaxed, I think.

What's the difference in cuisine?

Because, you know, everybody says, like, it's a lot more diarrhea over there.

Because, you know, like, they have, okay, let's just say particularly, they have Nigerian, you have

Caribbean, you have Jamaican, X, Y, and Y, and Z.

And you might have that in the States, but people that's from those areas says it doesn't actually taste like it does if it's over there.

Do you know, do you notice the difference?

Like when you go to Mexico and you have a dish from Mexico, and then they kick that cook that same dish over here in the States?

Yeah, I mean, I haven't been back since I was a teenager, but I mean, the food is definitely greasier from what I remember.

I was over there, over there, over there.

Okay, okay.

And you can get it, you can match it over here, but you got to go to like a real hole-in-the-wall spot, you know what I mean?

Where people don't, people aren't trying to live up to like any

standards.

Like people are just trying to cook it the same way they cooked it when they were back home.

Oh, okay.

You ever go to Mexico?

I'm going to take you to Mexico, man.

I'm going to go to the beach.

I'm going to take you in our pickup truck.

No, no, no, no, no.

We got to go in a sprinter.

We got to go in a sprinter, man.

Is it true that your grandmother told you that when you came here, look, don't touch nothing.

Just say, because I guess she was afraid.

Nah, not necessarily.

Like, we would see stuff on TV.

And, you know,

I was a little kid, but it was like George Bush on TV and a bunch of new stuff.

I racked with her.

Right.

But she would just be like, her opinion about every politician was essentially like, ah, they're crazy.

Like, don't worry about that.

They're crazy.

But

she wouldn't encourage me to,

you need to vote or you need to pay attention to this stuff.

Like, none of that.

She was just like,

maybe once she actually told me, don't even bother voting.

Like, they're just all crazy.

Fuck that.

So that's your

grandmother that raised you, that was your mom's mom.

Your father's mom,

did you go spend time with her?

We were in Island then.

Yeah, but she had a lot of stories.

You sit down near your grandma.

I feel like everybody, at least one of your grandmas, is like that.

Where you sit down and she just automatically starts a story that maybe she left off at the last cookout.

And you remember to start telling it again.

Yeah, she just starts telling it again, or she starts telling you how she's related to everybody.

Like, you know, she starts showing me pictures of, like, this is your grandpa's cousin but i divorced your grandpa like in 88

well his cousin was so nice i'm like why are you showing me this like right right what did that got to do with the conversation girl yeah so like she was more like that you know

my grandparents like i live i lived with my um my uh my mom's mom and dad grandparent where did you grow up at i grew up in south georgia okay they raised us When we got an opportunity to go with my dad's parents, they didn't get an opportunity to see us much.

So we got whatever we wanted.

We go to the store, we get any kind of cereal we want.

We got hamburgers with hamburger buns.

We got hot dogs with hot dog buns.

We got honey buns.

We got all kinds of stuff.

And then we go back like,

I remember telling my brother, said, man, I sure wish we could stay with Grandma Charlie.

Because, ooh,

it was such a vast difference between the two.

Did you notice the difference between grandparents?

I grew up great.

We always had hot dog buns.

Now, no, do you get hot dogs?

You know, hot dogs with lightweight.

I guess y'all call it it.

Sandwich bread.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

See, we call it lightning bread.

But yeah.

Lightning bread?

Yeah.

Oh, we just call it sandwich bread.

Why you call it lightning bread?

I don't know.

That's just what they called it in the South.

So

lightning bread.

Yeah, yeah.

Okay.

I'm going to start using that.

So, let me ask,

look, you're Hispanic and you see what's, you saw all the Hispanics for Trump.

And you saw farmers for Trump.

You saw gays for Trump.

And then you see what...

These people were supporting him too?

Yeah.

That's crazy.

Well, some people might say the same thing about, you know, Hispanic because they do it a lot around me.

You gays always surprise me.

Oh, Lord.

I love it, though.

When you see what's happening,

what goes through your mind?

I think that

no matter, like, I mean, hey, support who you want to support.

That's like the beauty of this country, right?

More power to you.

But I think if you like,

excuse my language, if you dick right either side too much, like you lame, you dork.

Right.

Like if you're going to go red, like, fine, be red.

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You can go, you know, left, like, be left, but I think when you're like just shoving that out there and you swear that like Trump is the new Jesus Christ, like, shut the f ⁇ up.

You do realize now, if whomever you vote for and they do something, like, okay, there's like, he kind of told you like what he's going to do.

He wanted to have this mass deportations and he wanted to round up, so forth, and so on.

So if you're one of that, you know, Hispanics for Trump and all of a sudden you're a family member or you get ensnared in that trap, you can't be mad.

It says, well, why is he doing this?

Because he told you that's what he was going to do.

Yeah, I wasn't supporting Trump, though.

So why are you coming out?

No, I'm just saying.

No, no, no.

Don't clip that up, Shannon.

No, no, no.

Like, Shannon Sharp goes off on route for

Trump.

Hell no.

No.

But I'm saying, you know, you see a lot of people now that's like, well, this is not what I voted for.

That's exactly what you voted for.

Yeah, there is a lot of that.

People are like, why is he doing this?

Like, why is he doing what he said he was going to do?

Yeah, why are you mad?

Because he's doing what he said he was doing.

I don't like when people come at me or they be in my comments.

They're talking about, you know, Obama deported more people.

It's like, well, I was like 15 when Obama got in our thread.

I didn't vote for Obama either.

I didn't vote for nobody.

Do you know anyone that's been deported?

Yeah, my uncle, but he's back.

Right.

But he always gets deported.

But

you're not supposed to say that.

You know, somebody might watch this and then go get him again.

Man, I got like 18 uncles.

They don't know which one.

They don't know which one.

Plus, he's probably hiding somewhere.

Yeah.

Help me understand this.

And this is what I tell people.

When I was growing up and I...

became what I became.

I said, work a lot of jobs because working a lot of jobs will tell you what you don't want to do when you get older.

Because if you, I promise you, when you young and you full of energy, you energetic and you just like you just go, go, go, if you don't want to do those jobs then, you think you're going to want to do it when you're 25, 30, 35, 40, 50?

And so the problem that I have is that, okay, we're going to round up these people, but these people, some of these people are doing jobs.

I ain't going to lie, a whole lot of Americans ain't going to want to do that manual labor, that feel stuff.

Yeah.

People that, that people that

also,

everybody was like, I mean, not everybody, right?

But I see a lot of these videos of people at the rallies for Trump.

And like,

they're like, oh, well,

they need, they're in this country illegally, and a bunch of them are criminals and criminals and criminals.

But why are they pulling up to job sites if they're looking for criminals?

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

And then when they shut down, you see farmers are, you know, going bankrupt because a lot of them do farm work, construction.

A lot of them do construction work.

A lot of them do,

they're doing work, Ralph, that I promise you, there are not a whole lot of Americans.

I'm not saying not every American, but there are a lot of Americans that don't want to do those jobs.

Yeah, also, they're getting hired by people who want them here, bro.

Like, what the fuck?

It's not like they just showed up, like, hey, you're going to pay me.

Or we'll kill your family.

You used the ice hotline?

Nah, nah.

That was a joke.

I know.

Yeah, I know.

I got to clarify this, man, because even

people believe that's true.

Yeah, even like other Hispanic people.

Like, I joke like that because it's like, bro, I'm joking about my own people, like with my own people.

You know what I mean?

And then people want to comment like,

Ralph is destroying his own people.

And it's like,

I don't know.

But you call it on your ex-girlfriend?

Yeah, I'll call it on her.

Nah, you never, like, this is maybe whole advice, but you never completely get rid of an ex-man.

Why not?

You might need that hotline one day.

You might need a shoulder to cry on one day.

Hey, how you been?

You know, you don't ever do that.

Hey, how you been?

I've been thinking about you lately.

Hello.

Are you like crying?

Are you trying to get back?

Are you just, I mean, you really going through something and you really need someone to talk to?

No, it's booty cost.

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Ain't no spinning the block, Ralph.

You done.

You're done, Ralph.

You can't be doing that, bro.

Why?

What do you mean?

Why?

You broke up for a reason.

But we could be friends?

No, Ralph.

You go her way, you go your way, and allow her to go her way.

Allow her to have somebody in her life.

Shannon,

let me tell you something.

When you start dating somebody, even if y'all don't get serious, y'all reach some level of intimacy.

Yes.

I don't want to go and get intimate with every girl I meet and have to date her.

Sometimes you just hit up an old flame and you watch some TV together, you hulu and chill.

Okay, okay, uh, uh, uh, Hulu and chill.

Division in your community, Latin community.

Why is there so much division in the Latin community?

You call some of it too.

You all them jokes you be telling.

Yeah, maybe I cause it over.

Maybe I should put a magnifying glass up, too.

I don't know, man.

It sucks to say, but damn, bro, Mexicans, Mexicans be hating on other Mexicans.

But see, that's funny that you say that because from the outside, it looks like I was like, man, y'all great in the community.

Like, y'all live together, the grandparents, parents, kids, all y'all live together.

So, I would assume until I started, like, hold on, they be beefing like that?

Yeah, it's weird.

You can't have success

near your loved ones.

Really?

Not too much, maybe.

I don't know.

I just feel like.

And I don't want to be stereotypical because people are saying, see how he generalizes a Mexican guy and we all live together.

But I'm just saying, that's how people.

I know what you mean.

Like, we're very close family.

Yes, yes, yes.

But it's weird, man.

Like, 90% of my fan base is probably Mexican.

All I can go off of is, like, what I'm speaking here is from my experience, right?

Like, based off of my comments, my messages, my feedback from people have to show.

Like,

I'm never Mexican enough, bro.

Like, there's always so many people.

But also, these people are judging me based off of one or two clips they might have seen.

Like, they don't even know me.

Right.

If I don't post the clip where I'm speaking Spanish for a month, they're like, Ah, he don't know Spanish.

He's not a real Mexican.

He's not doing Spanish jokes, so he's not a real Mexican.

He doesn't know Sabo kid.

If I do jokes in Spanish, they're like, Oh, well, now he's catering.

Now he's like your stereotypical Mexican.

He's like, Bro, that never happened.

So you're never going to be able to please everybody.

But it doesn't bother me too much because the ones I'm not pleasing, it's very small compared to

the ones who are pleased, who the ones I'm pleasing.

That sounds weird to say, but I'm pleasing more people than I'm not pleasing.

You travel the country, so obviously they're

a vast community.

So,

how you accept it, say, in the West versus the South versus the Northwest, the Midwest, the East?

I would say

East Coast, West Coast, and the South,

boom.

Like,

I can never go broke there as long as I'm telling jokes.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

Midwest shows a lot of love too.

Like Chicago,

Chicago,

I don't know if anybody's ever sold out my shows as fast as Chicago has.

Really?

Yeah.

I would not think there's a heavy

Hispanic demographic in Chicago.

Yeah.

And what's cool about the Midwest and the East Coast is that it goes into other, you know, cultures too.

Like, I'll get Mexicans, I'll get Puerto Ricans, I'll get Dominicans.

Okay.

I even start getting, like, in the Midwest and East Coast, I can start getting like a lot of like Indians, really, a little bit of Asians, you know what I mean?

Okay, but yeah, the West Coast also super supportive, like California will sell out really fast.

Yes, Texas will sell out fast.

You know, what's crazy about Texas?

Like, I'm from Dallas, and Dallas is always sold out.

You know, it's my hometown to show a lot of love, but Houston will sell out quicker.

I don't know who sells out quicker, Houston or Chicago.

Wow.

Yeah.

And New York sells well, too.

You know what I mean?

Like New York, North Carolina does, I feel like I do really well there.

But in between those, like once you go to upstate New York or once you go to like,

like I've never been to Wyoming.

Right.

I don't think I got a fan out there.

You know, I would like to go to some different places.

How do you guys put together where you're going to tour at?

Man, I leave that to like my manager, my agent.

I will tell them like, hey, I get a lot of comments of people telling me to like, come to Detroit or come to this city, come to that city.

Like, can y'all

sell it out?

Can we?

Yeah.

The first time I ever started touring or trying to schedule a tour, they were telling me, like, oh, yeah, yeah, we're going to set up a Zoom meeting, and this is our

data analysis person.

We're going to see where you do the best.

But I'm like, bro, I'm going off of these comments.

Please put me in Chicago.

And I remember that one specifically.

I felt like, I love my agent.

He's cool and everything.

But I felt like, bro, why are you not listening to me?

Why don't I have a Chicago book directory?

I told them maybe like two, three times, and they were like, yeah, yeah, yeah, well, right now we got to offer for this this city, that city.

And then they put up my first Chicago show ever.

They put it up for sale.

And he, and I remember telling him, like, maybe like in an hour, I was like, bro, it's sold out already.

And like, let's see if we can add one.

It's like, all right, yeah.

And then we ended up having to move it because I ended up doing the,

I had to clear out the schedule to do, to leave dates open to do the tonight show with Jimmy Fallon.

But yeah, we went back.

And even to this day, like, I'll go to Chicago just to to work out material if I post like I got two shows tonight.

They'll sell out real fast.

So then we'll add it.

Last time we did that, we stayed there for like a week because we just kept adding shows and adding shows.

Yeah.

And Chicago people are cool as hell, like humble as hell.

I mean, and it's everywhere.

Like you get cool, humble people everywhere.

But I don't know what's in the water over there.

They like me.

Right.

So Chicago is one of your favorite cities to tour to.

But I was listening to you say like your dad, like your manager and your agent and stuff.

And that's what they look at.

they look at the data they look at you know the most people who probably who's looking at those comments who buy merchandise who you know so forth and so on and so they base it on we well you know LA we got to do LA LA shows a lot of love yeah California all of California shows like I can go to certain states and

Like if we go to the big cities, like, okay, yeah, we'll sell tickets, no problem.

We'll have some good shows, everything, right?

But then we'll go to like their smaller cities, and maybe it's a little harder to sell.

But like California, Texas,

I mean, that's really all I can think of.

Maybe Arizona too.

Like I can go to the big cities and the little cities and they'll still like, you know what I mean?

Bakersfield, it's a tiny little town on Cali.

That will sell out as quick as L.A.

will.

Really?

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

Wow.

So

that's what I like about California and Texas.

Big town, little town don't matter.

Did you have anybody

to switch to topics and I wanted to talk to you about this?

Did you have anybody impacted by the flood?

No, not that I know personally.

No.

Right.

But,

yeah,

that's tough.

Crazy.

Yeah, it's tough.

That sounded something almost like it was made up.

It was scary.

You know what?

And

I saw a time lapse, and I don't know if it was AI.

And they were showing it how it was just

raining, and all of a sudden

you see the rain and people getting out of town.

And then all of a sudden, I don't know, like I said, I don't know if it was AI.

And then all of a sudden, water's tall as houses.

That's insane.

I'm like, what the hell?

Yeah, I opened up my phone and I saw that.

And how many people had passed away?

Yes.

I was like, that just sounds unreal.

But I'm watching it in your community, how you guys came together to help.

Yeah.

Like rescue and look and to do things like that.

I mean, it's always great to see communities come together because although maybe that community, someone from that family, they didn't have a family or a friend or a loved one that was lost.

But to see communities band together, because we do have more similarities than dislike.

Somehow, over the years, we've allowed politicians to say, Whatever little

dislike that we are, they play on that and it grows.

I mean,

I guess I really always love that about being from Texas.

And I know other people from other states that'd be like, y'all swear y'all so cool because y'all from Texas.

Or why do y'all love Texas?

But Texans are very proud to be Texans.

So I think we kind of band together over that.

Like, Texans help other Texans.

You believe in aliens?

Yeah.

It's funny to believe in them than not to believe in them.

Why am I going to walk around here like there's nobody out there?

But you said they're dumb.

I mean,

you know,

they always crash.

They never can land safely.

Aliens, I don't know why we assume they're naked all the time.

Why else would we assume they're naked unless there was proof that they're naked?

You know what I mean?

Well, you You think the uh like okay, like all the all the cartoons, all the movies, yeah, they're always like, look at these intelligent life forms that are coming to the planet and gonna

either we go to war with them or they're way smarter than us and their technology is advanced.

But why are they naked?

Is that part of evolution?

Are we gonna be naked in 200 years?

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and some naked, then you're like, okay, then I would want to study them.

I'd be like, who do you follow on this?

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Your mom gave birth to you when she was 16.

So your mom was a young mom.

And, you know, that's probably.

Why your grandparents had such, especially your grandmother had such a big impact in your life.

What's your relationship like with your mom?

Oh, my mom has like the greatest sense of humor.

I think she's a big reason I got into comedy.

She loves like funny movies.

She still loves funny movies, funny shows, like all that stuff.

And I go, I take my son to see her.

I try to go once a week.

Sometimes I don't make it.

You know what I mean?

But yeah, we get her on great.

She worries about me a lot.

I mean, she had me at a young age.

So she was like...

She had to grow up.

You have a child at a young age, right?

Well, that's the thing.

It's like, at first, she wasn't growing up.

She still wanted to be kid so i you know i understand but i watched that kid grow up before my own eyes and i'm so proud of her she uh

she uh

now because i have a

i got other siblings you know uh between like my dad and my stepmom

whatever but my my mom

with my mom i have another sister and my sister is uh i believe she's 13 right now

And it's crazy watching my mom be like,

so different with her than she was with you.

Yeah, because now my mom's older and everything, and like, I'm all for it too.

You know what I mean?

Like, whatever I can do to like help them out, I'm all like, my sister's my sister plays volleyball, she's really good at ball.

She plays like on select teams and stuff.

Wow, so sometimes I can get pricey, but like, I'll make like, I'll do my part to like help them out and make sure she can stay in there because my mom's all for it.

My mom works her nine-to-five, and then right after work, we'll take my sister to her practice or to her, to her, like, uh, my sister's in band, whatever.

So, like, it's crazy seeing that, but I love it.

I love when I go over there.

She's always just worried about me, but I joke around her a lot.

I tell her I'm out here on drugs and I'm dying and stuff.

Even though you know she's worried about you.

Yeah, but she knows I'm playing around.

You said

that your mom broke up with a lot of people, but you respected the guys that beat her to the punch and broke up with her first.

Are you joking?

Yes and no.

What y'all love?

How are you going to be applauding the the visitors?

The whole team is mom.

How you applaud the visitors?

I love my mom, but like, like,

I learned a lot about like how not to be as an adult through these men's failures

and through my mom.

Like, no offense to my mom, but I also have a lack of trust in women because of my mom.

Because I would see her like.

Just treat these dudes like whatever.

Like, she'll brush them off to the side, be like, I don't want to date this dude no more.

Like, and these dudes would call her and just be like, please get back with me and stuff.

And it was lame.

So whenever I would, if I ever caught wind of a dude breaking over my mom first and I saw my mom like cry for him or something, I'd be like, look, that's how you need to be.

How you going to see your mom disappointed?

It's about, yeah, they got you back.

Well, because like, it's not that I was like, oh, they got, they finally got you, mom.

Nah, like, I feel bad for her too, you know what I mean?

But at the same time, like, I watched my mom be like,

like, she wasn't, she wasn't no sucker for no dude, you know what I mean?

So, like, I didn't,

I didn't feel so bad for her because I'm like, she's going to be fine.

Right.

Like, she knows what she's doing.

She's fine.

Did you ever get close to some of the gentlemen that she was dating?

Nah, I never really liked that.

But you know, they weren't going to be around for a long time.

They wasn't going to be around my life.

It wasn't that.

Because she would have like, you know, long-term relationships or whatever.

I just never liked that.

Cause like, to me, my, like, I have my dad, you know what I mean?

So, it's like, I have a dad.

I'm not looking for a father's figure.

I also have my grandpa who was like my dad, you know, my mom's dad.

So, it's like, I was never like, is this my dad?

Like, right.

I was like, bro, you basically dating my sister right now.

And they would try to be all cool with me and stuff.

I was just like, all right, whatever.

You ain't getting no money out of them.

Like, hey,

hey, you want me to like you, break me off a couple of dollars.

There was one dude who, when I was 12, was with my mom for a while.

And

he would let me drive his truck.

he kind of gave me a couple lessons and he would just let me take off in my truck go pick up my friends i was like 12 and i thought he was cool for that you know he also caught me sleeping school one day and he didn't sleep

nah he just told me like man don't be doing that like you know whatever so i always thought he was pretty cool right and i remember when they broke up i did get kind of sad and he like

i he was the only one

of the guys my mom dated when I was growing up.

He was the only one that like sat down and told me like, hey, man, like, I'm sorry, but me and your mom are not going to date no more.

And then he just hands me like a hundred bucks.

I'm like, the f is this?

These ain't good fellas.

He's like, now I got to turn my back on you.

I mean, I took it, but I was like, Yeah, exactly.

You ain't like, nah, bro, I'm good.

So, so you're like, that was the only one that you really got close to it.

But so, did.

But seeing your mom interact with men,

how did that shape the way you interact with women?

I don't believe nothing they tell me.

But damn.

I mean, like, I believe some stuff, but like,

if they're like, you know, you're the only guy that this, this, and that, I'm like, I don't, I don't care.

I don't know if I believe you or not, but you don't got to tell me that.

Like, I don't necessarily, I'm not that.

I don't know.

I'm not that receptive towards compliments or towards like, you're the only one this or you don't want that.

Right.

Whatever.

Because I'm human.

But it's going to be tough.

You know, it's going to be tough if you become cynical of everything of the relationship and what she's trying to tell you.

It's going to be really hard, Ralph, for you to have, to find a stable situation.

I feel like it's impossible for me to find a stable situation, a stable relationship, because one, I have these issues that I saw my parents in so many failed relationships, right?

Right.

So I don't trust anybody already.

And then, two,

I've accumulated

what I think is a good level of success.

So now I'm always wondering, like, why are you with me?

Yeah, so, you know what I mean?

So, like, it's too much trust issue.

All I can hope is that I meet some genuine women in my life and get to really know them.

You know what I mean?

You didn't have anybody before you became this Raph Barbosa?

Did you not have a young lady in your life that

before you started to blow up?

I mean, I dated my son's mom, you know, but

we were broken up before this even like took off.

Right.

You know what I mean?

You might have as well go and get back with y'all.

You already got a family.

Nah, I'm good.

Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

You good?

Yeah, I'm good.

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But you know she sincerely and genuinely loves you for you.

Will you talk to her?

You don't know what goes through that woman's mind, Sandy.

Nah, I'm just saying.

She was with you before any of this stardom, any of this fandom.

I mean, there wasn't like a whole lot of women that were with me before the stardom, but there was a handful.

Yeah.

I'm not going to go back to them now.

So for, hey, do you want to get married now?

Because you passed this.

Are you trying to get...

Do you would you like to get married?

No.

Okay, so.

But I would like to like

settle down, if that makes sense.

Yeah, but I just don't want to like sign paperwork.

But you do realize in your profession, it's hard to settle down because you're on the road.

I don't know how many dates, maybe 200, 250 days out of the year, you're on the road.

Now, do you plan on taking this young lady on the road with you or is she back where she's saying?

It sounds like you don't want me to get married.

No, I'm just asking you.

I want you to be happy.

But I'm just saying, I think it'd be realistic.

It's kind of hard when you basically travel.

Your job, you travel.

Yeah,

I need a date like a flight attendant.

Oh, geez.

But my friend had a threesome with a flight attendant, so I can't trust them either now.

Oh, God.

You need stories.

I just think for the time being, you probably rap.

You might need to just, you know, kick it so low.

Yeah, for sure.

Like, I've been in Vegas two days.

I haven't been hitting on nobody.

I was thinking, like, man, you know, it's Vegas.

We'll meet some girls, whatever.

But honestly, I've just been enjoying my time here as a single dude with my friends.

It's a little gay, but it's whatever.

What's it like having step parents?

You treat them good.

Do you treat the step parents like you treat your real parents?

And I think I'm blessed that my stepmom, my dad's wife, has always been so good to me and never referred to me as a stepson, at least not in my face.

You know what I mean?

Like, she's been so good to me, man.

What do you call her?

You call her mom, or what do you call her?

Do you call her by birth name?

I call her by her first name.

You know, but

she like.

I didn't know, I didn't like, I was almost taking it for granted how like nice she was treating me and like how much like love she had for me and like really treating me like if I was her kid when I'd be over there.

Because when I got older and I started working different jobs and making friends that were like older than me,

who had kids that were older than me, I would see these people who have like their own kids and then they marry somebody who has their own kids.

And then I'll hear how they talk about like her kids and how and then I would see

maybe how she treats his kids and I'm like, damn, bro, it's kind of cold.

Like I didn't have to go through that, thankfully.

Like,

if I would be over there with my dad, you know, my dad sometimes would have to go do, handle business, whatever.

And he would leave me right there with my stepmom and like my younger brother, young sister.

Like, it was like, no problem, bro.

Like, I didn't have to worry about her treating me any different or nothing.

Like,

she was an angel.

So how, how was, how was,

did they have kids together?

Yeah.

So how was that?

Because, you know, that's not your biological mom.

But theoretically, the kid, you know, did they call you?

They you they look up to you.

They're like, big brother, you I mean, you take him around.

You did things?

I think they used to look up to me.

I think right now they're probably mad at me.

Why they're mad?

Because we all live together right now.

And like my brother, my sister, they're teenagers.

Okay.

And they live with you.

Yeah, we all live at my dad's.

We all live on the same like property and stuff.

Where they are?

Man, we're out in the country.

You so you saving your money, huh?

Yeah.

All your money went for a grill.

Yeah, that's my wife and a bunch of cars.

I built a garage right there on the lands, bought a bunch of cars.

You don't want to get your own place?

Eventually, but for what?

I'm always traveling.

This whole country so far has been one big home.

You pay your dad rent?

Yeah, I'll give him, like, he don't charge me rent.

I just...

Give him some money for like expenses and stuff, you know?

I might not give him money one month, but the next month I might give them like maybe way more money than I need to give them.

You know what I mean?

And so on and so on.

So, how did that arrangement come about?

You like, okay, dad, I mean, you traveling.

No, no, no, no.

So, this is before I even started touring.

This is right before things kicked off for me.

Okay.

This is like 2022.

My lease was up.

I was living with my uncle, my mom's brother.

We had it.

Have you ever had a place of your own?

No.

Damn.

You just, you just go from uncle to aunt to mom to dad to grandparents.

If I lived on my own, I think I move around so much, I would forget that I have my own place.

And I would forget to go check up on the house.

Okay.

Before you stayed with your dad, you was with your uncle before things popped off, okay?

And

I was always struggling financially, though, because I was like, man,

I can't go get another lease somewhere.

My son at the time was about three,

and he liked going to my dad's a lot because the neighbor has like horses, and it's just a lot of room to play and stuff.

And

your dad is in Texas, right?

Yeah, okay.

So, my dad would tell me, like, you know, come move in over here, come move in over here.

To be fair, my dad would tell me that pretty often throughout my childhood, but I was just like, nah, yeah.

And

yeah, my son liked it a lot.

And I needed a place to stay.

And one day my son got a little sick.

Like, he had like a flu or something.

I don't remember.

And we just stayed right there at my dad's.

And I just didn't leave.

I was like, man, so can I still stay then?

He's just like, yeah.

just stayed.

He never charged me rent.

Like to this day, he technically doesn't charge me rent.

I can't just be making money and then not give him something.

You know what I mean?

Like, I feel better.

Yeah, hold it over to yours.

Let me ask you,

how does one go about asking a relative to live with them?

So how did you stay?

How did you like your uncle?

I don't know his name.

What's your uncle's name?

Oh, Charlie.

Charlie.

He's over here right now.

Oh, okay.

Oh, okay.

Hey, what up, Charlie?

So let me ask you a question.

How do you go about, hey, Charlie, you know, I want to kick it over here for a couple of days, and then a couple of days turn into a couple of months.

Well, nah, we got it together.

Like, we agreed.

Like, my uncle's, man, my uncle's a bachelor.

My uncle's in the mid-40s, late 40s.

And I'll be like, hey, let's go get an Airbnb somewhere.

He'll be like, all right, let's go.

Damn.

It's cool people, my uncle.

Yeah.

So, are you eventually, do you hope to eventually get your own spot?

Yeah.

I'm just like, because I because I have a few different ideas, I don't want to invest into anything until I have like a more like concrete idea

because I'm, man, I'm very impulsive.

Yeah, so I'll go.

I don't, I just don't want to make a big purchase and then, well, I'm only like, regret it.

Yeah.

I'm getting.

Like you said, you know what?

You look, I travel 250 days out of the year.

I don't even know place.

I can stay, you know, stay with my dad, break him off a couple of dollars.

I'm straight.

Yeah.

Like,

I love hotels.

Like, I love hotels.

Really?

And like, I'll go home.

Like, don't get me wrong.

I miss being home a lot, right?

So I'll go home.

But if I'm home for like two weeks straight, by the second week, I even feel like, damn, I think I'm bugging my family.

Like, I don't think they're used to me being around so much.

Like, I'm telling you, my brother and my sister, they're teenagers.

And like, I kind of started cracking down on them lately because they do little teenager stuff.

And I'm like, bro,

respect my dad's house.

Like, respect us not to like lie bro like right

a lie for like you want to be grown be grown stop lying like it insults my intelligence and I don't think they like that when I like talk shit to them over there so like sometimes I feel like they're looking at you like a brother and you tell them hey respect my dad you're like oh that's our dad too yeah

but I'm like I feel like I'm bugging sometimes after a while and right so I'm like ready to get back on the road after a week and a half but for the longest you thought you were the only child huh I mean I grew up very much only child You know, just me and my grandparents.

And then once my, so my mom has me and my sister, and then my dad has

three other daughters and one other son.

Okay.

So like.

Are you the oldest, though?

I'm the oldest.

Okay.

So like I was alone with my grandparents.

And then when my, when my sister,

as I started having siblings, like.

You know, the ones that my dad had, I never lived with them.

I just go visit.

And then when my mom had my sister, she was the first sibling to like really live with me and stuff.

But I was already like 15 when she was born.

So I grew up solo dolo.

Right.

What's the relationship like with your siblings?

I love them all.

But they know you're somebody.

They know that they, you, you ain't just no

normal big brother.

Yeah.

It feels like,

I don't know what the,

how do, I don't know what the official term is.

Like, maybe arrogant, maybe like like a head ass type thing.

I try to

I want to warn them that like hey some of the people that come around y'all might might just be coming around to like try to get a picture but then I don't want to assume that like that's true either I don't like hey

but like my brother or like my sister on my mom's side you know sometimes I'll just see them hanging out with somebody and and then Next month they're hanging out with a whole other group of friends.

And the next week is a whole other group of friends.

And I'm like, you're like, dad, what happened to the other group of friends that you had?

Yeah, so I'm like, and then my brother's trying to make content now too, you know?

So it's just like, man, I don't know, like, some of these dudes might just want to be around you because they think you're going to be famous, or maybe they're trying to come and just be at our house and watch me eat or something.

Like,

but I also don't, like, I feel like when I say that.

You don't want to seem arrogant.

I don't want to seem arrogant, but they're also teenagers.

They don't got the best judgment.

You know what I mean?

But also, it's like, as soon as I'm saying it, I can already, I can hear their eyeballs roll to the back of their head.

You know what I mean?

So it's just like, I just don't say nothing.

I just keep traveling.

Your dad did a bid.

How did that happen?

And my uncle.

Damn, Charlie?

Charlie said, you had to have me locked up, too.

How did that impact you?

It just really influenced me to make sure that I learned the skill and

became successful with a skill because

I wasn't really doing much when

they ended up going away around the same time, like separate cases, separate scenarios.

Yeah, you chose the right thing because you dying people out because you told old Charlie, I didn't even ask you about Charlie.

You dabbed Charlie.

I quit.

Oh, my uncle, too, right?

Yeah, man.

I just didn't, you know, I just did, like,

my older cousin, he didn't go to like the Feds or nothing like that, but he had his run-ins with the law.

And

so, you know, just everything going on in our family, I felt like all our relatives maybe suffered enough with stuff like that.

Like, I remember when my uncle had to go turn himself in, my grandpa was tearing up and he told me, like,

don't ever get involved with that bullshit because this hurts too much.

So, I just, you know, also, I was, like, bad at it.

Like, I'm not good at like

the streets.

Yeah.

So, yeah, I just never went that route.

Do you get a lot of fights as a kid?

I fight with my friends a lot.

And, you know, maybe.

But damn, how do you got friends and you fighting them?

I don't know.

They just like fighting.

They or you?

We all did.

And it made it easier to like fight other kids because then I, you know, you.

Y'all team up and go fight other people, huh?

We wouldn't team up, but it's like, man, I done got beat up by my friend so many times.

Like, who's this dude?

Like.

But yeah, we fight a lot.

Sometimes with gloves, sometimes no gloves.

Did you ever do that?

You look like you beat up your friend.

Nah, you know what?

I didn't really try to fight nobody, rap.

I'm just, you know.

That's what swole dudes always say.

Slough dudes are always like, I don't want to hurt nobody.

No, but I didn't.

I was the youngest of all my cousins.

You know,

I was the youngest.

So seven years, six years.

My brother was three years.

Had a cousin two years.

And then I was the youngest of the guys.

And obviously, you know, wrestling and fighting those guys, like when you go to school and you people your age, obviously, you know, you're more developed.

And And so you could, but I was never, I was never a bad kid.

I just wanted, you know, I tell jokes, rag on people and stuff like that.

I was good in athletics.

I didn't really try to fight nobody unless I absolutely, positively had to fight.

Yeah, like real fights, I might, like, against like a stranger, like somebody I really didn't like.

I just had like a handful.

I fought my own friends more than I fought strangers.

Yeah, I mean, you know, in college, I had one fight, but it was a dude on the team.

But as far as like, you know,

I always have bad luck.

I think I got weak bones.

One time I was fighting my friend.

I fell back and I tried to catch myself.

and I broke my middle finger trying to catch myself.

So not even like in the fight.

I mean, you ain't drink enough milk.

That, yeah,

that's true.

Milk makes me sleepy.

Yeah.

So you're fighting and you fought your friends.

Did y'all make up or would you like, nah, once you fight your friends, I'm done with y'all.

We can't be friends no more.

We'd fight like every day.

We had like a fight club.

We meet up in the restrooms in between classes.

We had three minutes in middle school.

We had three minutes in between classes.

So we would fight for two minutes and then you got a minute to get to class.

So you get to class, and your shirt's all stretched out.

Teacher asked you what happened?

They're like, why are you bleeding?

You're like, I fell.

It seems like you got a lot of enjoyment out of that.

Yeah.

My childhood was fun, man.

It was funny.

Why?

I mean, it seems like to me, look, yell at prostitutes, fight your friends.

You fight who?

I said, I would yell at prostitutes and then I'd fight.

You figured out.

You fight, you know, you fight your friends.

It's fun.

But I mean, I'm just like, okay, yeah, friends going to have a disagreement and you might fight.

But you guys like friends and y'all like, okay, bro, we got to, we got to, hey, what were y'all?

Do you know what you do you remember what you guys were fighting about?

No, to see who was a better fighter.

It wasn't like we were like mad.

If anything, if you got mad, we'll probably be like, all right, bro, maybe don't fight because you're getting mad for real.

Yeah.

It was.

Man, I don't know.

Did you win any of the fights?

Yeah, a couple times.

Couple?

The way you talk?

I was also a smaller one.

That's what I'm saying.

I knew I would lose, but my mentality was like, All right, even though I'm gonna lose against these bigger dudes, I'm gonna keep on fighting them because whenever I fight somebody my size, I'm gonna just beat the shit out of them.

But it wasn't nobody your size.

The few times that I had to fight somebody that was like around my size, you got them.

Man, I'll demolish them.

It was like nothing at that point.

You felt good, you felt good.

Like, yeah, I was like, this must be how my big friends feel all the time.

No wonder they beat my ass.

This is amazing.

You were a barber.

Yes, sir.

I started cutting hair at 13.

Really?

Mm-hmm.

How did you, how did you get?

I mean, somebody say, hey, Rav, did you like cut your own hair?

Did you start up in your own hair?

I mean, how does somebody like you let them just, you ain't got no barber's license and you just start cutting people here?

Yeah, I went to Ross.

They got Ross over here?

Ross, like the

store?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I went to a Ross and at the entrance, they had like a clearance basket and they had like some clippers.

Like Remington or down there or something like that.

I got those and

then

I was only using those for a couple months.

I think my birthday came up and I got like total from birthday cash.

I got like $150.

Yeah.

And across the street from my middle school, there was like a little, like an Asian beauty shop, you know?

So I went in there, I bought like some real clippers and started using those.

But there was no YouTube tutorials back then.

There was like one dude.

YouTube was caking his Randy.

He had like one video that actually helped me out.

The other people on YouTube,

they were still trying to make money.

Like, if you found a video of a haircut, it would be like a time-lapse.

And then it'll be like, you want to cut hair like this?

Go to my website and buy my DVD.

Because this is like, I was like 13.

There was no real tutorials back then.

Now, this is a tutorial for every damn fade.

But back then, I would go to the barbershop on a Friday to get my cut, and then I would stay there like extra time where I would show up early to like watch them cut hair.

And I would ask the barbers, how do you do this?

How do you do that?

And I would watch them, you know.

And one of the barbers there was really cool.

He actually let me like on my friend, let me like kind of take it.

So then I would try to remember that and then I'd go and like beg for clients at school.

I used to walk around the hall.

He's like, bro, let me cut your hair.

Please, please.

Were you charging or you cutting it for free?

I would cut it for free.

And then I'd be like, if you like it, then the next one pay me right but they would get the free one and they'll never come back because i'll them up

do you label

man you lucky somebody put hands on you ral bag you know you can't people

do i got the clippers in my hands i'll hit them no but i'm saying once i hey you handle the mirror say hey what you think bro

what you think bro

I said I got a, I got, you ever seen, they're called the Fade Masters.

It's a big old chrome.

It's a heavy-ass clipper.

What you think, bro?

Smash it on the the head with it.

So what's the funny story you have of cutting somebody's hair?

Have you really, like, really, really messed somebody up?

Yes, bad, man.

Look, this one is probably one of my favorite stories.

But I didn't f ⁇ him up, though.

This is when I was already kind of getting the fade down.

Right.

One of my good friends, Robinson,

real quiet dude.

I convinced him, let me cut his hair.

So he rides my bus because he usually gets a ride home, right?

So that day he rides my bus all the way to my house and uh we get there to my house and and

we actually i i i would cut hair at the other end of my block at my friend's house they had a better garage setup so i'll go right there sometimes and i'm and i'm i would still take so long you know when you start off you yeah take yeah i'm taking like an hour on one side and and i'm doing the haircut and then my mom calls me and she said that she had to take me to a doctor appointment i didn't know how to doctor appointment that day so like robinson you're gonna have to come back again again tomorrow after school, bro.

So, the next day, Robinson, I see him in Spanish class, and this has one fade, and then nothing over here.

So, you left the guy, it finished your

haircut up the next day.

It was a 2B continued cut.

Oh, my goodness.

You told a joke.

You said it's harder to get a barber's license than it is a gun's license in Texas.

Yeah, because you don't need a license in Texas.

You need a license

to be a barber, but you don't need a license to carry a gun.

Well, like, here's what's crazy to me.

And I like guns.

I'm not trying to say, like, they need to make it harder.

Like,

that's a whole other conversation for some political show, you know?

I like guns.

I've gone into a store and filled out the little background check, 20 minutes, walk out with a gun.

You know, it's easy.

It's fine.

That's not my issue.

My issue is that

one day,

one of the first barbershops, one of my first days at the barbershop I worked at, it's called Oak Cliff Barbers.

i i'm working there maybe like a month right but i only go in in the afternoons i work from like 5 p.m to like maybe 8 p.m right because i'm still in barber college i'm not licensed but i go in those hours because it's when the the tdlr the texas department of licensing and whatever they don't work those hours so they can't it's less likely they're going to show up at 6 p.m.

and be like where's your license right

But I'm working there for like a month.

And one day I get there and it looks like they got raided by like DEA or something.

Like everything is just torn up because TDLR had showed up that day and checked for license and checked if everything was up to code.

And it's like, bro,

because we're fading people up,

because we're cutting people's hair, you know what I mean?

Like I got a killing machine right here.

Like

got it in 20 minutes, but I got to go to school for 1,500.

I think now they changed it to 1,000 hours.

But when I went, it was 1,500 hours and two exams.

The Texas practical, the barber practical, first off, you got to do a thousand hours to unlock the first test.

You go and you sit down at these computers and you can't look at nobody next to you.

If you look at them and talk, they're just like, you failed.

Like if we're taking some CIA exam, and you're just there filling out like, what are the shaving techniques?

Like,

all right.

Then once you pass that test, you can complete.

Now you're allowed to do the...

the next 500 hours.

So there goes another fucking six months of your life.

Then when you do that, you got to do the practical in front of the state board.

So, you go, you take your model.

Like, if you were my model, I sit you down and I got a bag full of stuff.

And I got to separate all my items in different bags and label them.

And I got to shampoo you and drape you a certain way.

Towel, drape, towel, this.

And then when I'm done using that towel, I put it in my little trash bag, right?

If you were to be like, oh man, I accidentally grabbed the towel that I hadn't used and threw it away.

Let me get it back from that bag.

All that's in it,

you lose five points.

Wow.

And then it's like a four-hour-long process, bro.

And you can't even talk to your model unless it's instructions.

And

when my best friend, Jaime, was right there, he was falling asleep because we had drank the day before.

So I'm like whispering, I'm like, wake up, wake up.

And I started pinching his back fat to like wake him up.

But it's like, and then they're walking around just looking at you and like checking you and seeing him talking.

And I'm like, bro, this is not CIA.

Right.

It's not that serious.

It's not that serious.

And I I walked out with a killing machine from Academy Sports and Outdoors, like in 10 minutes.

Like,

I don't know.

That's just the only thing.

The barber stuff needs to be like,

I think now to get a barber's license, you even need to know how to do a manicure.

Like,

yeah, they gotta do it.

So, how long were you a barber?

I was cutting full-time from when I was like 20

to I was

how old was I a few years ago?

So I was like 20, from 20 to 26, maybe 20 to 25 around there.

But you knew that wasn't, that was not a lifelong ambition of yours.

That was just something to make.

I always loved it.

Yeah.

But it wasn't like, I mean,

I love the barbershop I worked at and I liked, I love cutting hair.

Like,

I don't know.

It's cool to me.

And I remember being at the barbershop, and those guys were so funny to me, and it was just so fun being there.

I had the realization, like, hey, if comedy never works out and I worked here with these dudes for the rest of my life, I'd be all right too.

You good with that.

Yeah.

You mentioned earlier, the very first time, open mic, you got booed.

Why the hell you go back?

Because a lot of people can't handle rejection.

Because I can't take a loss.

I can't do it.

You want to go take that L?

Like, if I really like something, nah, I can't take the L.

Like,

I walked off stage immediately thinking, like, why did I even come up here?

Like, I'm an idiot for thinking I could do this.

And the host

is a comedian named Luke Moore.

I have seen him on stage that same night.

He was funny.

And he was like, hey, man, he's like, come back.

And I was like, what?

Like,

come back.

Did you not see what happened?

Like, I thought he was making fun of me or something, you know?

So I walked to the car.

My friend Tony was with me.

And I remember apologizing to him.

Like, I'm sorry I even brought you out here.

We've been here all night.

Like, I was stupid.

Why?

Like, why did I think I could do that?

But by the time I got home, I was like, maybe if I would have said this different.

And then the next day, I was,

I think, I think I was working at a diner.

I was a short-order cook.

I'm like just making hash browns and shit.

I remember thinking, man, if I would have said that different,

may I try this?

Like, were you prepared?

Because at the end of the day, I was like somewhat prepared.

Okay.

You know, but I just kept thinking about it.

And I think that goes for anything that I try that I really like.

And anybody, like, you f ⁇ up, but then you start like

re-evaluating everything in your head.

Like, oh, I could try this.

Maybe I should have zigged when I zagged, you know?

So then it took me like two months, but I went up on stage again

and I bombed again.

Damn.

But I was like, hey, but I did the whole time this time.

Yeah.

So

you didn't let them make you walk off.

Yeah.

So I'm like, now I got to figure this out.

like that

and the first time i got like a real laugh was kind of unplanned like it wasn't even a joke that i wrote is i was about to walk on stage and this was uh at a different comedy club this is a backdoor comedy club shout out to miss linda stogner who's a dallas legend uh she threw me up on stage and

that open mic was in like a nicer part of dallas right it was the first time i've seen an open mic with so many like it's the first time i was in a room with so many rich looking white people and i was like intimidated.

So as I was about to walk on stage, I remember this one dude in the front row was like, I was like, bro, that guy looks like someone who's called the cops on me before.

So I just said that on stage.

I'm like, this dude looks like he's calling the cops on me.

And out of nervousness and everybody just started laughing.

And I was like, damn, vulnerability, honesty, and confidence.

That's my first lesson.

Like, that's.

When you got that laugh, you was hooked.

Yeah, because it was like a medium laugh.

It was like, bro, it was like, ah, ha, ha.

But when you first hear it, you feel like everybody's just like ah right and when you and whenever you think of something and you say it and everybody laughs you feel like a genius yeah you know what i mean do you remember the first joke joke you told

uh like the actual joke that i wrote i think uh um

yeah

yeah yeah yeah i had just started this is like the actual like rigid joke that actually worked

and it was somewhat work

i was uh i was working i had just started working uh

construction under like the electrical, like industrial electrician.

You know, you had a lot of jobs growing up, right?

Yeah, I had a lot of jobs.

And the other thing that you didn't do growing up, you cut hair, you were a barber.

I mean, you were a barber, you construction.

I always wanted to work on a boat, but you know, I grew up in Dallas, so there's no coastal.

Yeah, what, boy, when you got to work on the Dallas?

Well, that's what I'm saying.

That's a job I didn't have.

You asked me what job I didn't do, and it was like a cool thing.

Well, you know, Dallas catch.

I don't know if they still shoot that.

They shoot the Bear and C.

One day I'm going to go do that.

Watch.

I'm going to just disappear.

I'm going to go do that.

But anyway, my joke was that I was working for an uncle of mine.

Charlie?

No, no, no, no.

Man, my uncle ain't never gonna work.

No,

my uncle keeps his fingernails clean.

Okay,

you're working for your uncle?

My uncle Charlie is the one that taught me to work smarter, not harder.

Right.

He's the one that made me use my brain more than my hands.

But I'm working in industrial electricity for an uncle on my dad's side.

And

I did this joke where I said,

I'm working as an electrician, but,

you know, for my uncle, but he says things that I feel like electricians shouldn't say or uncles.

And I was like, and I wrote them down and I'd pull out a piece of paper.

I'd be like, the first thing that he says is like, we'll know if it's wired correctly if we don't blow up.

The second one that he says that scares me is like,

I think this is where this goes.

The third one he says that scares me is, all right, no one's around.

lock the door and pull your pants down.

And like, that one, that one would get like a little laugh.

But that was like the first joke that I like that you started?

Yeah.

You wrote down to you.

And yeah, I remember the club, one of the clubs that I did it at, they only liked you to do like clean comedy.

Right.

And they were like, maybe don't do that one.

So then I had to like start changing it up.

Right.

The second time you performed, the first time you went to open mic, you got booed.

The second one,

you performed at a strip joint.

No, no, no.

So that was like my first, like,

what was the first time?

So So the first time you actually got paid, you went to a paid gig.

And I, and I didn't get paid.

I lost money because they charged me $5 to get in the strip club.

And they never paid me.

But it was all fun.

I didn't care.

I'm just trying to think.

How do you perform at a strip?

How do you have a comedy show at a strip joint?

It was a whole lot of fun.

A gentleman's club, excuse me.

I didn't, look, for the record, I didn't put this on.

All right.

They asked me if I wanted to do it.

I said, hell yeah.

The show was called Laughs in Ass.

which honestly, you don't want to be laughing when there's ass out.

Just focus on the ass, you know?

You're not going to compete.

So

they had a wireless mic and they kept cutting out.

But

I don't know.

It was this horrible idea.

I'm on the stage where the strippers dance.

And there's like a pole right here.

Right.

And some of the people in there were still getting dances because they didn't care.

They didn't show up for the comedy.

And I remember one of the strippers, strippers, she was so supportive.

There was a dude getting all danced on by this big girl.

And the girl's facing me.

The dude's like way back there.

He's facing that wall.

But he's listening.

And he liked one of my joke.

He turns around.

He's like, woo!

And then the girl's like, the girl's like, good job, baby.

And I was like, oh, like, thank you.

Man, but the mic kept cutting out.

This is so awkward, bro.

And there was an ugly, nasty stripper.

And I remember she walked up to me when I was waiting to go on stage.

And she started like, like,

twerking on me.

And I was like, no, I don't have money.

Like, don't, like, trust me, don't do that.

I don't have money.

And this is the first time that a stripper was like, nah, like, tip me so I can leave.

Like, give me a dollar and I'll leave you alone.

I was like, oh, man, I had like, that was my, I had 10 bucks that day.

Right.

And five was for the entry.

And the other, like, three went to her.

I had $2 for chips after that.

So, in other words, she said, give me some money and I'll leave you alone.

Yes.

Well, you just got to be dancing for free.

So the internet.

Now this thing, there's this thing called internet.

And a lot of comedians, it's different than the old comedians because you had to go to the gigs and you had to go

put your time in.

Now the internet can really help young comedians blow up.

How did the internet help you?

Man, the internet gave me a career.

You know, I feel like before the internet, for people to make it as a comedian, as an actor, as a singer, it's like the industry, whoever was running, you know, whoever was making moves in the industry had to kind of choose you.

You know, casting directors, the bookers had to be like, I like this person.

Let's make them famous.

Let's put them on this TV show.

Let's put them.

But the internet, you put a video yourself out there.

It's the people's choice now.

You know what I mean?

So yeah, like shout out.

I love...

I love anybody who's ever liked my videos, man, the Mexican community, the Puerto Rican community, the black community, Indians, anybody out there who's ever liked my videos and just shared them, even if you never come to a show.

Thank you so much for giving, for changing my life.

Do you believe that you blew up too fast?

I think I blew up maybe a little prematurely.

You said that problem, huh, Shannon?

Nah, I think that I wasn't ready to be a headliner when I started blowing up.

You know, I think I was still.

Because

traditionally, how it goes in comedy is like you will start off hosting shows where you do like 10 minutes, then you introduce the next comic, next comic, whatever.

Then you work your way up to feature act.

So you'll go on right before the main act and you'll do like 20, 25 minutes.

Then, you know, over time, you become a headliner and you kill 45 to an hour.

Right.

So when I first started going on the road, I don't feel like I had a killer hour like that, you know, but I had to learn it.

I think it took like six months of me headlining shows before I learned to be like a headliner.

Right.

The difference now is that, say, 20 years ago, 30 years ago, 40 years ago, you could tell a joke and you could recycle that joke.

Long time.

You can't do that anymore because the internet, cell phones.

So basically,

and I talked to a lot of comedians.

They said, the first time you tell a joke is not the best time you're going to tell that joke because over time you perfect it.

And now it's hard to perfect a joke because once you tell a joke, man, I heard him say that the other day.

Man, he said that in Kansas City.

Many I heard him say that same joke in Cali.

They kill you for it.

How do you expand on the joke?

How do you get a joke from its infancy to adulthood now?

And you can't force it.

I don't think.

One of my buddies kind of taught me that.

He's like, you can't.

You can think of it.

You could think on it and like rewrite it, right?

But sometimes I just kind of like don't force it.

Like, I'll go up there with the idea of how to say the joke.

I'll try it out on stage.

And if it works, then I'll make a note in my mind, like, keep using this one.

But then maybe next time that I'm on stage, I don't want to put too much pressure on that joke.

But as I'm, as I'm talking, as I'm saying it, I'm having another conversation in my head.

So I'm like, oh, shit.

Say this different this time.

It makes more sense like that.

So then I'll just say it.

But I'll usually keep changing the joke or keep adding to it until it like dies again.

Right.

So it's like, I'll say the joke next time I say it, add a punchline.

Next time I'll say it, add this.

But then maybe the fifth time I say it, I added something and it was just like, now you got too much fat on this.

You know what I mean?

It's like a sandwich.

You just add in too much

taste no more.

So I'm like, all right, let me backtrack.

Okay.

This concludes the first half of my conversation.

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