Club Shay Shay - Warren G Part 1

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It's reported that this album of yours helped get Def Jam out of debt.

It made over a hundred million dollars.

You're like, yeah, damn, it made that much.

A hundred million?

Where the f is my money?

Yeah.

Where life could

all my life been grinding all my life

sacrifice hustle paid the price one a slice got the roll of dice that's why all my life i've been grinding all my life

all my life been grinding all my life

sacrifice hustle paid the price one a slice got the roll of dice that's why all my life i've been grinding all my life

hello welcome to another episode of club shayshay i am your host shannon sharp i'm also the proprietor of club Shay Shay.

Stopping by for conversation on the drink today.

He's a music icon, a triple platinum-selling rapper, a Grammy-nominated songwriter, global, and groundbreaking record producer, pioneer, and West Coast legend.

He helped popularize West Coast hip-hop during the 1990s.

He's had one of the best rap songs ever recorded with Regulate, selling over 10 million copies worldwide.

He helped get Death Jam out of $20 million of debt.

a cultural influence, a pit master, chef, a husband, father, and a brother, all the way from the streets of Long Beach.

Everybody say, church.

Here he is, ladies and gentlemen, Mr.

Warren G.

Hello, what's up, man?

How you doing, man?

I'm good, man.

What we started doing, Warren, like when we have

such as yourself, we ask them, not only can you sit down and have a conversation and share your story.

Our audience really like to hear the performers perform, like to do the songs that made them household names, that made them popular, that everybody knows who they are, and then give the backdrop of how that story came to be.

And that's what you're going to do today.

So we're going to start it off with this.

We're going to get started off with this DJ.

I was in Long Beach, California

and this DJ

was just a song

pretty much like

a young teen story of a young guy that just wanted to

be something in life and wanted to go in the right direction.

So it was a lot of

pitfalls and things in the way, but was still able to manage to you know make my way and and and build right

it's kind of easy when you listen to the jeat up sound my ineir speakers bumping out the smoke on the pound i got the sound for your ass and it's easy to see that this dj be warranty can i get in where i fit in sit in listen Let me compensate better yet regulate.

Shake the spot with my knot.

May, fade.

Cause I don't like to dream about getting paid I play ball through the halls of CIS with snoop dogs big brother call him dirty left rack em up crack him up stack em up against the gate the homies tryna catch me but they can't wait damn the street lights just came on and my mama's in the street telling me to come home i hit the gate and i hops on my swing And I tell my homies, I did, yeah.

It's kinda easy when you listen to the G-D up sound.

Pioneer speakers bumping, that's a smoke on the pound.

I got the sound for your ass and it's easy to see that this DJB warranty is kind of easy when you listen to the G-d up sound.

Pioneer speakers bump and that's a smoke on the pound.

I got the sound for your ass and it's easy to see that.

So was the original hook sung by Snoop?

Actually, yes, yes indeed it was.

So what, so what happened?

Well,

he was signed to Death Row.

I was signed to Def Jam.

and

you know, Shug didn't get along with Russell and Lior.

He couldn't stand them, so that kind of like made it a conflict, you know, with getting the song cleared.

So what I did, I was like, well, you know, f ⁇ it.

If they gonna do that, let me figure out how I can still record with my friend.

and not get taxed for it or get sued for it.

So what I did was I went ahead and I recorded, you know, the hook and I still kept Snoop up under me

doing the back vocals.

But what I did to his voice, because that's how it was anyway, what I did to his voice, I made it what we call, I call it the G-Chow.

It's an effect that I put on the voice which make you sound like a chipmunk.

I put that under Snoop and.

They didn't even know it.

They didn't even know it.

They know it now.

Now they do.

Hey, it's too late now.

Yes, indeed.

So like

when you started, like, did you always want to be in the rap game?

Was this something or you just kind of like stumbled into it?

Well,

I started out in sports.

I played football pretty much all my life.

But I was still in love with music at the same time.

I was in love with all the hip-hop artists from the 80s.

Even like Jimmy Spicer which you have to dig deep on that one Jimmy Spicer is a real old Jeep from New York right

had a unique style that I fell in love with so I was a huge fan of him and just all of the you know like the the

the Grandmaster Flash Furious Five all of the

NWA Easy E all of those I was just because you being from Long Beach LA

right up the road and now like you mentioned you got NWA you got Q you got easy Dre, your big bro, who we're going to talk about a little later.

You got Snoop.

So it's starting to do the West Coast thing thing is starting to get really, really big now.

Is that kind of what made you gravitate towards it?

Because you mentioned long, you playing sports, Long Beach of the football Mecca.

They got some

balconies come up out of there.

I play with

Long Beach Volley.

Yes, indeed.

I play with a few of the

big dogs out of the LB.

Yes, indeed.

What really got me deep into music was my father.

We used to sit, my mom, I would go and stay with him on the weekends, and we would just sit and listen to jazz.

Just listen to Chuck Mangioni and a bunch of jazz artists all day.

And

he would be toking on his little bud.

And we would just sit there, you know, and he'd just be turning me on to different, you know, jazz.

And from there,

you know, in the household, my mom made me move with my dad to Compton.

Even though I moved to Compton, I was still going back to Loomby.

She didn't know it.

But

that's when my relationship started with

Dre and Tyree.

and my little sister Shamika, she was a baby then,

and Verna.

You know, that's where my relationship started there.

And I was living with my dad and

me, Andre, and Tyree, we all slept in the same room.

And Dre was DJing.

He was a DJ.

So

I'm around all the time.

And

Tyree and Andre was my big brothers because I didn't have no brothers.

I only had my sisters.

you know, Felicia, Tracy, and Mitzi.

And

just being with Andre and Tyree, having big brothers, you know, I was inspired by that.

Dre was a DJ around that time with the

thing was the high power crew.

And

so that was before the world-class wrecking crew?

This was, it was

right around in the same era.

Actually, that was when he left the

world-class wrecking crew.

He got into the high power crew, which was him and Easy and Sheen and Donald and

Kilo.

It was a bunch of guys.

Him DJing, you know, I used to see it all day, all night.

So I asked him to show me how, you know, one day and he showed me, you know, put on the Shaheen, I think that's what it was called.

You know, the one that It's Time.

So he was showing me how to go back and forth with It's Time, you know, DJing.

And I fell in love with...

with

you know I felt I fell in love with DJing and that along with the jazz, and then being around Snoop as a young kid and a lot of the Voltron crew, which I talk about in this DJ.

Absolutely.

The twins and all of us, just freestyling and rapping,

that's what made me fall in love with the hip-hop and with music, period.

My dad, the Voltron crew, and Dre.

You mentioned the Voltron crew and this

DJ and how you guys were selling candy.

Yes.

Did you make a lot of money selling candy?

Yeah, we was making a lot of candy.

Because back then, candy was only like Features at a bar.

Yeah, it wasn't.

It wasn't.

You know, we would make like 50 bucks.

Sometimes some people would make 100 and something bucks.

And that was a lot of money.

That was a lot of money.

I mean, it was, that's what we, we was, that was our hustle.

And the crazy thing about it is,

We was doing that.

I was doing it.

My mother didn't even know it.

You know what I mean?

So when I came home late, that's why I was saying when the street lights come on, you got to be old.

You got to be in the house.

So I would, when I came in late,

the extension cord came out.

So I was like, wow.

Well, help me understand this one.

How did y'all get the money to get the candy?

What we did, it was a guy named Steve.

Okay.

He was the supplier of the candy.

He was pretty much like the big homie.

He was a plug, yeah.

He was the plug.

And he'd give us the bag, the sack, right?

To go to go hustling.

So how much did you get?

Let's just say, for the sake of argument, you're selling it for, let's just say 50 cents.

How much of that 50 cents did you get to keep from each bar?

Or each piece of candy that you sold?

Well, this is how we did it.

At the end of the day, we bring back the money and we give it to him, and then he would break us off from there.

If I made

like 50 bucks, I probably would get like maybe 20, 25, something like that.

That's a nice look.

Yeah, that's a nice little come up.

Yeah, yeah, And then what we would do, we would play quarters.

Get like me, yo.

Yeah, you know, with quarters, get like me.

We playing that at McDonald's.

That's when Big Mac Value Packs first came out.

Yes, indeed.

Right.

Oh, yeah.

All right, the next song that we're going to get, we're going to hear is I Want It All.

So

I Want It All.

I mean, a lot of times when people say they want it all, they want it all.

They want the nice homes.

They want the nice cars.

They want to be on the vacation.

They want nice looking women or whatever the case may be.

So what was the thought process behind I Want It All?

That was it right there.

I Want It All was a record that,

you know, I wanted it all.

You know, I wanted to be successful.

I wanted to be able to get brand new socks and drawers.

I wanted to be able to get cars.

I wanted to be able to put my mother in the house.

I wanted to be able to help my sisters and help my friends and just do good things.

so getting it all I wanted it all so I could do those types of things and uh like I say in the song

go into champagne shit every damn thing I want it all house is expensive my own business a truck

and a couple of benders I want it all brand new socks and drums and I'm balling every time I stop and talk to y'all I want it all

all

I want it all

all

they say they go warn G with the envious stare Love this game too much I wish these haters wasn't here It's a shame We came too far to turn back It's a cold world It gets so hard to learn that from falling Tryna walk from crawling Trying to hustle up from broke to ball

And yeah, y'all in effect that's on me the chicken cheesy All my people that keep it real and do it easy Believe me young fat meat is greasy and shit stank So if you fire licking hit a bank And get away or get gaffled the very next day Don't cry cry, hold your head up high and remember what you told yourself, homie.

I said, remember what you told yourself, homie.

I said, remember what you told yourself, homie.

I said, remember what you told yourself, boo, I want it all.

Money fast, cars, I'm a rings, gold chains, and champagne, shit, every damn thing, I want it all.

House as expensive, my own business, a truck meet, and a couple of benches.

I want it all.

Brand new socks and drawers, and I'm balling every time I stop and talk to y'all.

I want it all, all,

In order to be successful, you first

have to

taste defeat.

Yes.

Because there are very few instances where, you know, you take off and then you just ascend to a height and you never look back and you have no stumbling, you have no obstacles, you have nothing you have to overcome.

In the process of you wanting it all and achieving what you've been able to achieve what were some of the things that you look back on like damn

i didn't need to buy that damn i made a mistake i wish i would have done this or i wish i had done that um

i was on tour it was my first tour uh came back home it was the bud fest uh

uh al it was the al heyman blood fest and uh Did the tour, it was like a three-month tour, came home.

The thing about it is that I didn't didn't really understand royalties okay back then i was just going just doing whatever i wanted to do never did a

like a pub deal or anything and um so everything was coming to me so i was getting checks while i was on the road and the accountant i had was telling me warren this came in this came in so i'm like damn I like that.

This made me go harder.

So when I got off tour, came home and

cashed, got a 600,

600 V12 Mercedes-Benz.

Dang, big five.

Cashed it out $120,000.

Damn.

Like five.

Right in Long Beach,

the Mercedes store was right in Long Beach, California.

And I walked right in there and dropped the cash right there.

And

now that I think about it, I could have been dropping that on something,

real estate or something like that, you know.

But you live and you learn.

Yes, you live and you learn.

And I'm more sharper now.

Right.

Yes, indeed.

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How difficult is it?

Because my brother tells a story that, you know, coming from rural South Georgia, and there's really nobody, we never saw anybody go to the NFL.

We never saw anyone that looked like us that had become successful.

Yeah, we saw successful people on television, but we didn't know them.

We had no personal tie to them.

So how difficult was it to you?

Because obviously you had started, you know,

NWA and Dre was in that, was in there.

And so you started to see people have a level of success.

You're like, well, damn, if they do it, and I, that's my brother.

I've lived with him.

And so if he can do it, I can do it.

How much, how easy was it for you to say, well, since he do it, I can do it?

I mean,

I mean, it wasn't easy.

I mean, well, I fell in love.

I fell in love with

DJing and wanted to be a producer and rapper.

And I fell in love with all three.

And

it was just,

it was just, it's pretty much in me already from like I was saying, like from my father with the jazz,

it made it easier for my ear to understand how good music sounds.

And

it was some hard steps there too, with, you know, with, even with Dre, just trying to let him hear me and Snoop Snoop as kids,

trying to be like them.

And that was hard because he wasn't trying to hear that.

You know, you got the big, the big guy like.

So was it a situation where he felt that if he gave you that opportunity, people are going to say, well, this is nepotism.

He ain't really that good.

And

he just happens to be my brother.

That's what I'm putting him on.

And so he really wanted, like, I need someone else to say that my bro, my baby bro, is really good before I give him that opportunity.

Yeah, and that's what happened.

That actually is right what happened.

One of his good friends named L.A.

Dre, rest in peace,

heard

our demo, 213 demo, and he was like, have Dre heard this?

And I was like, no, no, I didn't play it for him.

The reason why I was around him is because he was having a bachelor party.

I talked to Dre and he was like,

come on to the bachelor party.

So I came and

music was being played and it was kind of like the same thing being played.

So I gave LA Dre the tape like, man, play this.

So he popped it in and played it and everybody was like, this is banging.

So they was like, so he was like, if Dre heard this, he was like, Dre, you heard this?

And he was like, nah, I didn't hear it.

He was like, who was that?

He was like, that's Warren and his homeboys.

And he was like, that's y'all.

I was like, I've been trying to tell you.

It's me, Snoop, and Nate.

I've been trying to tell you.

And he was just like, you guys come to the studio on Monday.

And Snoop didn't believe it.

We was kind of debunking a little bit at that time.

But I didn't let that get in the way of us

having a chance to be with Dre.

So he called him, he hung up on me.

I'm like, come on, man.

So I had to call him, keep calling him like, man,

I talked to Dre.

He wants us to come to the studio.

Man, let me call him on the three-way.

So I called him, and Dre was like yeah this is this is Dre.

This is IDre

and Snoop couldn't believe it and that was like the kickoff

to start

the whole journey right there.

You mentioned that when you got off you you did your first tour you're on tour for like 90 days and the money is coming in coming in coming in.

You get back home and you got this big old sum of money and

coming from meager beginnings, you're like, man, I want a whip.

You go plunk down 120 bands

on a V12.

And a 64-7.

On gold days.

Hey, I hit the corner on three wheels on it.

You had switches and everything with that thing.

Everything.

So when you look back, was that,

and you said earlier, instead of...

Plopping down 120 on a V12 and probably another 30 on a 6-fold, I probably could have taken that, got a piece of property, and that'd have been 10, 15, 20 times what it is right now, as opposed to a car that's a depreciating asset.

Yes, indeed.

Was that probably some of of one of your worst purchases?

I'm sure you bought some jewelry.

You probably got some stuff.

You got some rags.

Yeah, I wasn't like, I wasn't really a.

You weren't a clothes guy?

No, I wasn't a real super clothes guy.

Even jury, I didn't even buy a whole bunch of jury.

I had G-Phone chains that I bought and passed those out to all my friends.

Right.

But I say

that the Mercedes,

I bought a bunch of cars.

I bought the Mercedes.

I bought Yukon trucks.

I bought

had houses, two houses.

I bought

Just just I was just buying just buying and buying

for no reason for no reason and

you know, I should have taken my time a little better.

Not saying that I'm downhill now, it's just I'm more smarter now

and I understand more.

I was, I wasn't number like 21 years old, 21, 22.

So I was like.

And came into a lump sum of money.

Never had that money.

Had more money than I could even, even in my dreams, I didn't have this kind of money.

Yeah, yeah.

And all the ladies, all of us.

Yeah.

It was lovely, man.

And,

You know, even with

accountants, I even had an

accountant mistake.

Took that stuff.

Yeah, where I was giving the accountant

power of attorney to sign checks for me to do all this stuff.

So I'm like, damn, why is my money going?

Like, leaving so fast.

What's going on?

Oh, we had to put this over here for this much for taxes.

So you guys taking 48, 49 of my money over here and putting it in this account

and i'm like damn half of everything i was making was going here but i'm like

where's my money at like my money is leaving leaving leaving i'm like

so i found out that it was some crookedness uh

and from that point i was just like you know what i'm not gonna ever do that again i'll

Mail the checks to me and I'll sign them and

I'll mail them back.

So that's that's how it was going when I was on the road.

It'll be sent right back.

I'll sign everything, paying bills and I mail it back.

Is it really hard to stay on top of that?

Because you want to focus on the making the music aspect of it.

You want to focus on being the producer.

You want to focus on being creative.

But in the meantime, If you're not careful and you turn over power of attorney, which you give someone the authority, they're basically warranty.

Anything that he could sign, they can sign.

Any amount of money that Warren can take out of the account, they can take out the account.

How difficult was that to realize like, damn,

I've been got.

How soon did you find out that you had been got?

And then what were the steps that you took to make sure that never happened again?

It was just times where I was just like looking at my account.

I would go to the bank and look like, damn, why is my money leaving?

Like, I ain't been spending money like that.

So I started digging and digging and talking to people.

And they like, did you do this, do that, do that?

You know, power of attorney.

And I said, yeah, that's your problem right there.

So I had to

undo it.

And then my uncle came in

right around that time.

He was fresh out in the Marines and he came in and,

you know, got me out of that and got me away from that and took me.

you know, guided me on the right path, said, well, you got to get an account and you have to have that accountant to where you don't give them power of attorney so he was giving me all that knowledge and

that's what that's what got me out of it and

it was it was terrible man it was it was terrible and how people could just take advantage of people like that you know young black cat not knowing make you want to do something bad to him though man

definitely because it's hard to come by me here you are in a situation growing up how the majority of us grew up especially the majority of people that's black professional athletes or entertainers or celebs.

They didn't grow up, they didn't grow up with, you know, middle class, upper middle class, so they didn't have it like that.

And to get it and then to have someone try and take it,

boy, you be thinking like, whoo.

Yeah, it was, it was, it was heavy.

I charged it to the game, man.

I said, you know what?

If

you know the way I'm working and the way I see royalty checks come in, I get it back.

Right.

So I was, I was, it made me work harder to make more.

And that's what I did.

And

I learned the lesson, a heavy one.

It cost you a little bit, but you learned.

Yes, it did.

This next song, Do You See?

And it's interesting because

the Bible Belt, they lashed you for that one.

Yeah.

They put it on your warm pretty good with that one.

Yes, indeed.

The way the hook went,

give me one second, fellas.

The way the hook went on the first one is that

you don't see what I see.

They was like,

I started getting calls from everywhere like, Warren, you can't do, they like, wait, the Bible failed trip date.

So I said, oh my God, I was like,

I don't know what to do.

So I got on the

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Mike, and I was like, let me try to change up the

melody of it right and then that's when i came in and i was like you don't see what i see

you don't see what i see

every day as warrant g i take a look over my shoulder as i get older getting tired of mother saying warren i told don't hear what i hear but it's so hard to live through these years with these funny bunnies

ain't shit changing got my mama wondering if i'm gang banging but i don't don't pay attention to those father figures.

I just handle mine and I'm rolling with my

off to the VIP.

You see, Snoop Dogg and Warren G.

Unbelievable how time just flies right before your eyes, but you don't recognize.

Now he's the real victim.

Can you answer that?

The n is Jack and all the fool getting jacked.

Yeah, you don't see what I see

every day as Warren G.

You don't hear what I hear, but it's so hard to live through these years.

You don't see what I see

every day as Warren G.

You don't care what I hear, but it's so hard to live through these years.

Yes, indeed.

Warren, did you spend any time in church?

I don't know how you thought that was gonna go.

Do you hear what I hear?

I don't know how you thought that was gonna go.

Yeah, I grew up in the church.

Yes,

I thought I could, you

they was on my head, but uh, it worked out, man, and it became one of my biggest singles as well.

Yes, what did that, what did that song mean to you?

It meant a lot.

Uh,

because that was, that was me and Snoop's, uh, the things that we was going through

before

we had

got into the music business.

You know, it was a lot of

hustling, a lot of people.

We were still, you know, trying to pursue the hip-hop, but in between that, we was hustling.

We was around a lot of gang violence.

Just

going to jail, like the county,

just hanging out with all our homeboys.

I was gangbanging.

It was just a bunch of things.

Nobody wasn't trying to sign us.

So we was just going through a whole bunch of like...

pitfalls like just back to back and so

we was doing it so much and we were seeing a lot of people go to jail get shot a lot of things was happening so I was like Snoop

why don't we just try this and just straighten up and say forget it and let's just get regular jobs and try to see how that work out for us and still try to do our hip-hop and

So that's what we did, you know, Snoop had got a job at Lucky's grocery store and I had my mom had took me down to a place called the Southwest Marine, where I got hired as a fire watch and then moved to electrician.

You know, I did, we worked, we worked.

And

hello, Snoop.

Snoop was at Lucky's.

He was at the stock, you know, he was a bad boy.

I think, I don't know.

He was in there.

He was in there looking like special eggs

with the little

hairdo.

And,

you know,

we changed and

and still kept kept working hard and and all over the city just you know jumping in the contest uh uh roger clayton gave us a shot from uh uncle jam's army he had a club called the toe jam would let us come in there and perform you know it was it was uh snoop dog warren g nay dog 213 and the big posse which is my home girls they all was big so they they was all security right and they used to they used to regulate they used to they used to they hold it down for y'all hold it down and uh all of that stuff um

was do you see you know i just summed it up um

in a song you know should i a go back to slang and dope or should i be maintain and try to cope or should i see just get crazy and wild But no, I chose D, create the G child.

And that's what I did.

And what we did, it's musically just working hard and staying at it.

How old were you when you were Snoop Matt?

When you were in junior high, grade school?

How old were you in?

Elementary school.

Yep, elementary school.

Beverly would walk Jerry.

Jerry is Snoop's Dirty Left, which is Jerry's, I mean Snoop's oldest brother,

is Jerry, which I call Dirty Left and this DJ.

So Beverly will walk Snoop and Jerry across the park going to CIS.

That's the school we went to,

elementary school.

And we would all just meet in the park.

Sometimes we would go play asteroids

at the store on the corner before school start.

But we always was together from elementary school to Kings Park.

That was our home base.

That's where it all started to all our friendships as well right there at Kings Park.

And that's what we did every day was going to school right here across the street from Kings Park.

Afterwards, go home, do your homework, then we back to the park

playing sports or

summertime, eating the free lunches or going to Cow State.

And they would teach us about football, basketball, tennis, soccer, every sport they were showing us.

And

so we even played sports together.

We played Pop Warner football for six, seven years, straight from seven years old all the way up.

Snoop was one team down for me, but we never did get a chance to play together.

But some of his guys from his team, we got to play together.

But

we just been together, like around each other all our life, from me, Snoop, the twins.

The whole Votron crew, all of us was just from kids all the way from elementary school all the way up to being successful right now.

Even high school, We even went to school together.

And we still tight to this day, all of us, all of us me, Snoop, the twins, all of us.

When did you realize that you and Snoop shared the same love for music,

wanted to be in this rap thing?

Being in the Voltron crew and then

going to the high school football games, being on the bus, battling people

at school at the rallies,

football rallies, battling the other artists in the schools, going ditching school to go to other schools rally to

battle them.

Battle their crew.

Yeah, and

that was just showing us

how talented we were.

You know, we fell in love with that.

And that

it started

Snoop had got sent up to North Long Beach because I was up in North Long Beach,

North Long Beach, right there by Compton.

And Snoop had moved, his mother, Beverly, moved to 61st Street.

So he ended up coming to Jordan because I had to go to Jordan because I was in North Long Beach.

And

one day at lunch,

I hear somebody, Warren, and I look and I'm like,

Snoop, I'm like,

nigga, what you doing up here?

Like, he's like, me and mom's moved up here.

So he was like, Warren, let's start, let's go to, after school, let's go work.

So we would, after school, we'd go right to my house,

hit the record on the tape deck, I'd get on the turntables and start mixing some beats together and Snoop was started freestyling.

And we just kept doing it, just kept doing it and doing it and doing it.

Not and sent the tapes to

Carol Lewis and...

Rock him, Eric B.

and Rockham, Run DNC.

I mailed them personally.

Me.

I mailed all our demos to them.

Yeah.

Did you hear anything back from anybody?

We didn't hear nothing back.

Nothing back, but I mailed them off.

When you guys finally did make it, did anybody that you had mailed those two, did they reach back out?

Well, you know, once we made it, you know, we was in the same rooms.

You know what I mean?

Same shows, same

wherever, you know, MTV awards.

Right.

So

it was

just like it was a dream come true just to be in the same room with these guys.

And

we talked about it like we sent you the demo way back then.

I'm going to tell you this, you know, so

it was like

you guys could have had us

doing records with you guys.

Right.

You know, but it was all love though.

We was just huge fans.

You guys started up in a group, the Boltron group and the 213s.

When did you realize

or did you realize that Snoop needed to go his way and you guys needed to do your own thing?

You mean as far as like

that he was going to be solo and you and Nate was going to do your thing?

Or was it...

Well,

we never separated.

We was always 213 no matter what.

Now, as far as the record industry, that part...

They determined that.

Yeah, that was determined by the record companies to where we couldn't work.

But we did finally get a chance to work after all of the smoke.

You know, that got through all of the turmoil.

We was able, we was

finally able to work.

But

it was never like

where,

you know,

Snoop would be like, f ⁇ y'all, you know what I mean?

We always, like I said, we was always tight.

We always moved together.

Now,

as far as myself

moving in my own direction where I went to Death Jam,

you know,

that was because Death Road was f ⁇ ing with me.

You know what I mean?

So.

Why?

I don't know.

I guess I was just, I was, I was

I mean could Dream?

Was Dre at was Dre still at death row at this time?

Yeah, he was at death row.

Okay, well damn I mean first of all They pop the tape in you've been trying to get Dre to look at you for a minute.

Okay, he doesn't and then somebody else come in they pop the tape in when you're at a function with Dre and they're like man who is this he said man this Warren G and it's homeboy Snoop and so forth and so on So he's there.

He knows what you guys are capable of.

Yeah.

Did you did you feel some type of way about that?

Like damn bro you can't even look out for you no i wasn't i wasn't i wasn't like tripping tripping like that i just

was like i'm gonna keep going hard keep working hard um he actually told me he's like warren you got to be your own man right this was like well he's like butre i am old man it's not like you it's i'm i'm good on this thing now but out of outside you got to go outside and look at but the reason the reason i think that the whole uh

you know i wasn't liked as much was because I was on top of things.

Like, I told Snoop and I told everybody that was at Darefro, get lawyers.

Right.

You know, don't just sign any of these contracts, get lawyers.

So I guess that upset Suge, and he got pissed off about it.

So that's probably the main reason why

I didn't get signed over there because I was just as talented as everybody else.

You know, production-wise, artist-wise, rapping-wise,

even on the DJ level, I was equal to everybody.

So

it was pretty crushing to not be able to be with my best friend,

be with my brother, which

was like a best friend as well, but a big brother.

I had to do my own thing, man.

I knew that I had to go when I didn't didn't,

when I wasn't able to go on tour, when I was like, you know what, I'm cool I got it I got they didn't take they didn't take you on tour no I didn't go you want you wanted to go I showed up

my bags and everything

you was already packed I was packed ready to go so so how I didn't even care I want to know how this conversation goes okay you packed you like yeah we going on tour they're like what you mean we you ain't got no ticket you don't got a ticket i'm like where's my ticket like you don't got one

i was you crushed crushed yeah

And

I was crushed.

And from that point on, I was just like, you know what, I got to, you know.

You really got to look.

I got to look up my own self.

I'm expecting people to do something.

I just got to get it on my own.

And if it happens, it happens.

And if it doesn't, it doesn't.

But I know that Warren's going to have to get this out of the mud himself.

And nobody's going to help me.

And I should, I've got to stop thinking that someone is going to help me.

And I think that was probably why you was most upset, is because you were expecting somebody to give you a hand well not a hand out just give you a hand

yeah just I pulled myself up yeah yeah and uh

it just wasn't it was it wasn't happening like that you know

but I just I went ahead and just you know I was I was messed up you know but I still I still came around even though I wasn't involved I still came around And still show love.

There was no resentment.

There was no animosity.

Hey, man.

Congratulations, boy.

Y'all doing your thing.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I was pissed because I wasn't with everybody.

But,

you know, I had to do my own thing, man.

Do you, I mean, you was telling guys, look, man, just don't sign everything blind.

Man, y'all need to get some lawyers to overlook this thing to make sure y'all not signing away everything.

Yeah.

And then

do you think some of those guys that did sign away everything wish they had listened to you in the beginning?

Definitely.

Yeah, because, you know,

you don't own your publishing.

You know, and that's the main piece of being a musician is to be able to get to have your publishing and own it.

That's going to help you eat for a long time.

A long time, you know, and

that's what happened.

Right.

You know, instead of them getting royalty checks, they would get...

like a

a monthly stipend or something yeah like here go five thousand

Like that.

Damn.

When they could have been getting 30, 40, 50,000.

Yeah, a lot, a whole lot, because, you know, that was vinyl.

Yeah.

CDs, vinyl.

It was a lot of money being made.

A lot, lot, lot.

And you mentioned that Shu got upset with you.

You get, man, keep your mouth shut.

You messing up my business.

Pretty much.

Yeah, pretty much.

And

how did you know

that they should get representation?

Because no one had hipped you to the game at that point in time because you hadn't been signed.

So how were you able to be so far ahead of your time at that time?

I don't know.

It was just something, something just

ding like in my head.

Like, we can't just sign anything.

To sign it, we got to get it looked at.

We don't know what we signed.

You know what I mean?

And

it was just something that I just was like, we need to get lawyers.

And a whistleblower had told that I said that.

Oh.

So did Shield step to you?

Definitely.

He came to me and,

hey, Blood, where warned at?

I took off as soon as he said that.

Took off.

And

it was an elevator, so I couldn't.

I couldn't get down because the elevator was the only way to get down.

So I got caught.

He caught me, grabbed me and was like blood you told him to get lawyers i was like

i said man if you don't get your hands off me i said i'm calling all my homeboys and uh

he let me go and uh

that was it you know that was it and y'all had been cool fifth huh we had we wasn't not y'all wasn't we wasn't on the i mean we are still we was y'all was we was okay we was yeah we was cordial um but i think that's what really was why i didn't get signed to death from because

I was sharp about it as far as looking at the paperwork.

Right.

What year was this for you?

Like 91 to 90?

That was

about 91.

Yeah, 91.

Yeah, 91 because I dropped endosmoke in 92.

So that was like 91.

Right.

Yes, indeed.

And then Snoop came out with what?

What?

The dog pound, dog far.

That came in 94.

90, Okay.

You have the

doggy dog world.

That was 1994.

Doggy style.

Dogmas.

I said doggy dog.

Yeah, dog style.

That came out in 94.

Yeah, so 94, because I came out in 94 as well.

Yes, indeed.

When Snoop dropped in 94,

and boy, did he drop.

It exploded.

Yes, indeed.

I mean, his style,

the cadence, the flow, everything about it.

I mean, he had the perfect name.

He looked like Snoopy.

So, I mean, it was perfect.

It was perfect marketing.

It was the perfect time.

And when you heard it, you like,

it ain't ever going to be the same again.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I was blown away just and so happy to finally see him, you know, get his due yeah get get his due and uh just to see how people people was going crazy over it how it sold out like in every store when it was released was was incredible so I felt the same way he did with you know with his success I was like I'm successful too right I was a part of him and we best friends and we getting ready to win together this is how we get in and uh you know I was I was really happy for him yes indeed yes indeed because the chronic Dre's album dropped in 93, right?

Yeah, that was 90, 90, yeah, 92.

Well, no, that was 90,

that was 91, 92.

Okay.

91, 92, right in there.

So you're like, damn, bro, bro, bro dropped that thing.

Because he had been a DJ.

So did you know he could rap?

Yeah.

Okay.

Yes, indeed.

From the world-class record crew.

Right.

Yeah, he was rapping way back then.

See, I don't remember.

I just remember turning out the lights.

That was, man, that song was crazy.

It was crazy when I was the college

thing.

He had a song called The Cabbage Patch.

Yeah.

Yeah, it was actually, I actually

heard it before everybody as a kid.

I used to hear everything.

So I actually took it one time and wrapped it around Snoop and them like I did it.

They like, Warren, where you come up with that from?

Yeah, they was like, oh, that's hard.

The song came out, blew my cover.

It was crazy.

Yes, indeed.

So everything, now everything, okay, Dre comes out in 91, 92.

You got Snoop coming out and you, 94.

And then here come you and Nate

pop on the scene.

Yes, indeed.

What happened was I.

I was at the studio one day

with Snoop and Dre and everybody, and

Paul Stewart and John Singleton was there right

to with Dre and Snoop to get some records for the the Poetry Justice soundtrack okay so I'm in the studio with them you know like I said I would come hang out so but I was still working but I would come hang out with them even though I was doing my own thing so I'm inside the studio so I

was like John Singleton and Paul I didn't know so

I asked them I said man y'all looking for songs for the soundtrack and they was like yeah and so I said you know can we go talk you know so we went to the car I popped in a

cassette in it was endo smoke and I played like maybe 20 seconds of that and Paul was like stop

he said can I take this tape I said cool So he took it.

I said, just give me my tape back.

So he took it.

He took it.

And like maybe like around that, maybe Monday or Tuesday, somewhere around there, I got a call and they was like, we want this to be the first single on the Poetic Justice soundtrack,

which was Endo Smoke.

They just bypassed everybody else and was like, we want this to be the single.

And

that was the record that set it off for me.

you know, as a, as a singer.

So that was Warren G's introduction to the world.

That was the world's introduction into Warren G.

Yes, indeed, Endosmoke.

And that record record was featuring Nate Dog.

It was an introduction for Nate as well,

as well as Mr.

Grimm, who was an artist I was working under to build up.

So that's where our journey started, me and Nate, as far as a combination with making great music.

And that led to me being signed by Def Jam.

They got a call.

They was like...

Who was the, you know, the guy that kind of has like the kind of singing melody to his voice.

And so got on the I got on the phone call with him.

We talked about it.

And you know, I was like, I was already prepared.

Like, let me call Graham and let him know that Def Jam want to sign him.

So they was like, well, we want the guy

on the phone call.

They was like, we want the guy that's got kind of like the singing, like kind of like the melody rap to him.

I said, you know, like the little like, woo, hey, he said, yeah, that, that, him.

I said, that's me.

So

that's me.

That y'all want me?

So I'm like, Death Jam want me?

So I was like,

I'm right here.

Done.

Yeah.

Liora Cohen and Chris Lighty and Tracy Waples flew out to California, took me out to dinner, and

I signed.

And that was the beginning of,

you know, me being able to start

doing records and

Regulate was one of the first records I did.

You know, because what I did once I got my advance, which was it was like $350,000 advance.

So what I did was I went and bought all studio equipment.

Bought all studio equipment, went and took it to the house, went out and started doing record shopping.

And so once I was doing the record shopping, once I was I was getting ready to go home, so I stopped by Roscoe's Chicken and Waffles on my way home.

You got that three-piece with waffle I was

tearing the cheese eggs oh my god I used to tear it up so I stopped at Roscoe's and it was a dude outside he was selling records okay so I bought the whole crate of records off of him I was like I get I think I gave him like 500 bucks took the whole crate of records Were they were they were they all new records or were they used?

They was used.

Okay.

Yeah, I took the whole crate.

When I got home, I was going through the crate and that's when I ran across Michael McDonald and the Doobie Brothers.

I keep forgetting.

And

when I played it, there was a record I was like, damn, my parents used to bang this.

So I was saying to myself,

if I did a

hip-hop song to this,

that would be

different and it'd be dope.

Yes.

You know,

and I did it.

I did it.

I produced it.

I went.

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I put the sample together.

I put the drums up under it, played a couple keys up under it, and

brought it all together.

You start by Roscoe, you got them eggs, you know, you feeling good, and the guy happens to be outside saying he got a crate of albums, vinyls.

And how much you want for it?

Hey, don't worry about it.

I got a little got a little extra chain here.

Take it.

Let me give them, give me all of them.

So in the process, you get the crate home.

You're going through them.

You're like, damn, Michael McDonald's Doobie Brothers, okay?

Yes, indeed.

Let me see.

Let me put, pop this on.

Okay, Akit, Okie.

Like, damn.

No hard.

Yeah.

If I could really do something in my genre over this,

I might be on to something.

Yeah.

That's the way I was thinking.

If I could.

put a song, a dope song over this this beat right here

I was like this could really be different and it could really, really,

you know, put me in the put me in hip-hop real good.

But

I wasn't thinking of it like it was going to be one of the biggest records ever.

You know, I was just thinking of it like...

Because even though Endo did what it did on 40 Justice,

this was Warren G's introduction to the world.

Yes,

all across, you know, France and the UK and London and Finland and Sweden and all this, they knew, even though they didn't speak English, they knew this.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They knew this.

Yes, indeed.

Yeah.

Regulate.

It wasn't a clear black night, a clear white moon Warjee was on the streets Trying to consume some skirts for the E so I could get some phones Rolling in my wide, chilling all alone

So I hooked to left on two one in Lewis Some brothers shooting dice so I said let's do this I jumped out the ride and said what's up Some brothers put some decks So I said I'm stuck

And they straight hit the card.

I'm getting jacked, I'm breaking myself.

I can't believe they're taking Warren's wealth.

They took my rings, they took my roulette.

I looked at the brothers, said, Damn, what's next?

They got guns to my head, I think I'm going down.

I can't believe it's happened in my own town.

Wings I would fly, let me contemplate.

I glanced in the cut and I sang my own name.

And one and the home.

Nate Dumb and Warren, he had the regular name.

Now they got the freaks, and that's a known fact.

Before I got judged, I was on the same track.

Back up, back up, cuz it's on N-A-T-E-N-E, the warrant to the key

and me with some different

but they all gonna keep chatting

with your messy wild

I am awakened into a whole new era.

She punk stuck to this, I tell ya.

Funk on a whole new level.

Chords, strings,

we bring melody,

seat funk, where rhythm is life and life is rhythm.

There is no possible way that when you picked up this crate of vinyls and you pulled out that one with the Doobie Brothers and Michael McDonald, that you could have possibly fathomed one wildest imagination that that record was going to change your life.

I knew it was a good record, but I didn't know it was going to be that

at all.

Right.

You know, and even like today,

with the new generation, it's like it started over again.

And it's every generation is starting over and over again.

And it's like, wow.

And hey, I love it, but

I didn't think that record was going to be this big.

Right.

It's it's uh it's amazing just to to be able to still

eat off it.

Eat off it.

Eat off of it.

Hear it.

I mean, it's...

Because it has to be...

I mean, you ride in the car.

I mean, you're riding it

and you hear that song come on.

And you're like, wow,

that's 30 plus years ago, Warren.

Yes, indeed.

And it's still,

they play that song, People Get Up.

Yeah.

Yeah.

People still get up.

30 years later.

Yeah.

it's it's amazing man.

I just you know I

didn't I

just didn't know if it was gonna be this big you know

I mean in the in the process of doing it what I did is

just even all the way from the samples when I sampled it you know I chopped each piece and each in the pads on the MPC 60 and

I when you hear it it's me hitting the pads

I'm hitting pads all the way around so once I once I built the track and had everything in sequence and going away

and sounding good

I thought to myself I said I need an intro right so

I don't know how this happened I guess it's just how God worked I just happened to be looking at Young Guns, the movie.

Yes.

And I heard the dude say, regulate.

We worked for Mr.

Tinsdale's regulators.

Yes.

And I took that, the whole piece,

when you hear the intro on Regulate, I took that whole segment and I chopped it up in different pieces.

So I took...

different pieces and I put it the way I wanted to do it.

And you got to be real handy with the steel in order to make it

You got to be handy with the steering, you know, to mean earn your keep.

Yeah.

Yes, indeed.

And

that

just when I when I listen back to it, I'm like, what the hell?

How did I, how did I think of this?

How did I piece this together?

It was like it was a perfect, perfect combination.

And then when I called Nate, I was like, Nate, I got a record over here, man, that's incredible.

I want you to come get down on it so Nate came over let him hear it he was just like that's hard because I told him I want to do a record with him like how Snoop and Dre did G Thang so let's go back and forth and you know Nate was had a he was his style was a singing style so

That's what made it even doper.

Now, if I'm not mistaken, this might have been one of the, because

Michael McDonald's was with the Doobie Brothers, and I think this might have been one on his first, his first solo album.

And so

this was a big, ginormous song for him.

So to get it cleared, you had to let him hear it, correct?

Yeah, yes indeed.

He actually he's still getting paid off of it.

Yeah, for sure.

Yeah, he's still getting paid.

The Doobie Brothers are getting paid.

Nate still gets paid.

I get paid.

We still get paid off of it.

So

when you finished the product, you said, Mr.

McDonald,

I would like to sample this.

I got a great track over it.

And here it is.

Yeah, well,

what happened?

The company got it cleared.

Okay.

And

I used to be in New York a lot.

So I'm at Times Square just, you know, walking around.

I used to just get out to walk around.

And I bumped into Michael McDonald walking in Times Square.

Damn.

Crazy.

It was crazy.

I was like,

Michael, like, it's Warren.

And he was tripping like Warren G.

I was like, yeah, it's Warren G.

He's like, man so it was it was you know cool to to meet him you know we didn't talk that much we didn't talk like long it was just like yeah yeah so and then

kept pushing but later on down the line what I did was he was performing where I lived at and

so me and my wife went to the to the concert and

I told some of his people that I was there.

And

so he was out there, you know, doing his thing, performing.

So he got to Regulate.

He was just like,

I want to

send a special shout out to a young guy out here in the crowd.

Thanks to this guy, you guys are still here.

I keep forgetting to this day.

And he made this song called Regulate.

So I'm getting ready to do my version of it right now.

And he was like, Warren G.

And then they shined the light over where I I was at and I was like hey hey like how y'all doing and so he did it and then afterwards they invited me back there and we had a really great conversation and he was like man you you changed my life like with with that record you changed a lot of lives and he was like my son don't even listen to my

version.

He in love with your version.

He don't even listen to mine.

And

we had a really, really great conversation, man.

He was just so

like

appreciative of what I did for him and the Doobie brothers by redoing that record.

And I've just, I felt great to be able to

do a record that

put a legend already

to keep him being legendary, you know, and made me a legend at the same time.

Right.

When it was reported that this record, this album of yours, helped get Def Jam out of debt.

Yeah.

Do you think, and it says

it made over $100 million?

You're like, damn, it made that much.

How much I actually get?

Shit,

I was like,

$100 million?

Where the fuck is my money at?

Yeah.

Where is my cousin at?

I was,

man.

it was first-time artist, you know, I was only making like,

I think it was like

25, 30 cents a record.

Yeah.

So it was,

it was.

So

you wasn't getting that big, that dollar, dollar $52 a record.

Well, later.

After the success of that record, they was...

throwing whatever I wanted, doing whatever I wanted to do.

So I went from, I got all the way to $1.50.

Damn.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And

that was great back then.

For sure.

Yeah.

Yeah, it was great.

So, you know, things have picked up, but that first-time deal was just like, it was kind of like

a

paying dues.

Yeah.

They get you the first one.

Yeah.

And I'm still

owner of my master publishing.

Oh, well, you good.

Yeah, I'm still owner of that, which will be reverted back to me in the next four years.

And then I can, all of that will just be me.

It won't go through two or three different companies, then get to me.

You know, everything will be coming straight to me, and then I can license it out, me myself.

It's hard

trying to get your masters back from these companies.

It's really hard.

Especially if

you don't have it in the contract from the junk.

Yeah, it's well

that's just standard.

Like, after

some of, some people like Warren is 25 years, not 35.

Right.

And,

but now, I guess, it's 35.

But it's hard to get them back, you know.

And

to me, that's unfair for a guy like myself because I helped this company.

That's under this umbrella become a billion-dollar business here.

And all I'm asking for is my masters.

Yeah, Yeah, you feel like they should have gave you those things back 10, 15 years ago.

Yeah, yeah, because I mean, reward me.

You know, I did my part, you know, just reward it back, you know.

But, you know, I'm working on getting them back.

It's supposed to come anyway, so I'm working on it.

Try to speed the process up?

Yeah,

I was like, I want them now.

Yesterday.

I don't want to wait.

No.

Yeah, so I reached out a few times and it was like, nope.

Wow.

I'm like, damn.

Let me ask you this.

And I've heard a lot of, you know,

when you look at Michael, Michael Jackson,

Thriller,

I don't believe in my lifetime there will never be an album or a song bigger than Thriller.

Never.

When you look at it and it says that he became obsessed because he was trying to replicate that.

Even though,

for me, As far as musically, off the wall was his best work.

Now,

Thriller was great.

Yeah.

Dirty, Bad was great.

And he had other that were great, but Off the Wall for me

was his best work.

But he wanted to do Thriller.

He didn't understand that was a once-in-a-lifetime.

It's like somebody in baseball throwing a perfect game.

Nobody's ever thrown two perfect games.

Yeah.

And that was, and he, and it's like, drove himself crazy trying to replicate that.

And sometimes when you don't do what you've done, you feel like you're not as successful.

Did you drive yourself crazy trying to do another regulate?

No, I just

never, I wasn't trying to outdo it.

I just

make great music, and if it's something does regulate or does better than regulate, so be it.

But I'm not gonna make myself sick.

I'm not gonna drive myself crazy trying to replicate that.

Yeah, no, I never, never tried to compete with it.

I just,

I knew I had a formula though of

making great records and the formula that I had which

is the reason why I have so many records that were successful like I want it all do you see regulate like endo smoke all these records were great because when I work on the project what I do is I try now this is what

how you make great albums I try to make every record I do a single I try to do that because that makes you do a lot of good records.

So that was my formula with anything I did.

I'd just do a bunch of rec, a bunch of dope records.

I would try to do a single, but I wasn't trying to compete with Regulate.

I was just trying to do a single every time, like

an album full of singles.

That was just my

process of my formula when I'm working.

And the records that came off of it

was big records.

All of them went gold, platinum.

Yes indeed, but they didn't go as many as regulate.

Regulate, right?

Yeah.

And that's the thing.

So

you have to be able to be content with the work.

Yes, indeed.

And that's like, you know what, man, because, you know, like you do a deal and it's not 20 million.

You do a deal, say, let's just five or ten.

Well, man, I was successful.

Damn.

Man, this record wasn't that good, man.

It ain't regulate.

Yeah.

Bro.

I mean,

and I mean, you just

got to dust yourself off and try again.

Just keep going at it.

But if you feel, if, if Warren feels that I'm just, listen, at this time, this is where I am musically, this is where I am as far as writing.

If I'm giving, if I'm doing the absolute best I possibly can, I can live with whatever sound comes off once it's overdone.

And that's that's exactly how I move.

I don't, I don't, you know, I don't, I don't,

I don't like

try, I just work.

I just work and just.

You don't measure success of one album by the success of another album.

Each is an individual project.

Yes, indeed.

Okay.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And

that's where that formula kicks in, you know.

to where each one of those projects, whatever the next project is or whatever I'm doing, like I said, I try to make it like it's a single.

I try to make these, every record on there a single.

Is it true that LL came and picked you up?

Yeah, yeah, first time in New York.

I didn't

believe it was him.

Because I'm like, what the f ⁇ LL gonna come pick me up for?

I ain't nobody.

You know, not yet.

I'm just signed, you know, new artist signed to Def Jam.

I mean, it's hard to think of an artist on Jeff Jam other than LL.

He built that.

He built that company.

Yeah, yeah.

And I was like,

I couldn't believe it.

I was, because, first of all,

I was a huge fan because he was one of those artists that I talked about that I looked up to,

which inspired us.

And for them to call my room and say,

you know, Warren, you know, Warren.

You know, he called.

I was like, is this Warren?

I'm like, yeah, this is Warren.

He's like, yo, this is LL.

I'm downstairs, man.

I want to take you around, you know, take you around the city, man, show you New York.

So I'm like, this ain't no goddamn L.

Somebody's playing.

So

I called one of the twins.

I said, twin, one of y'all come with me downstairs.

It's this motherfucker downstairs talking about ELL.

So

we go downstairs.

It was him.

And he had the drop top bag.

We jumped in and he took us to Queens.

He took us, we went shopping.

He took us to where he did his album where he wrote his lyrics at his grandmother's house.

He showed us the

how the basement went down.

I mean, I ain't never seen that many clothes in my life.

Like, it was all the way down the stairs on the walls, all the way.

The whole downstairs was nothing but clothes, shoes.

And

he even had the Suzuki samurai that he had.

He did the Tina got a big old button.

That Suzuki samurai was sitting right there in the yard.

It was old and dusty, but it was there.

And I couldn't believe it.

But he really showed a lot of love, man.

And he took us around,

we ate everything.

And he showed a lot of love.

And that right there was like,

that was where I was, when I was like, you know what?

I'm getting ready to put my foot in all this music that I do.

You know, that right there

really, really launched me into saying

I didn't really, really got far.

Right.

Yeah.

There was a quote that you said you feel like you were the Drake of the 90s.

Why did you say that?

Because all the ladies like him.

Hey,

all the ladies love Warren.

You know, that's how I was.

I was like that in the 90s.

You know, I was like a lot of all the ladies.

I was a solo artist.

Looked good.

It had a fresh fade.

Now I'm toe up ball.

yeah, I got a little gray hair.

That thing all the way through

and uh

you know, but back then, uh, you know, a lot of the ladies loved Warren.

To this day, it'd be,

you know, I'll be out somewhere, me and my wife, it'd be ladies or ladies come up like you, my, you was my crush, and this, that, you know.

Their grandma is now a Warren?

Their grandma is now.

But it's, it's even younger.

Yeah, Younger.

I mean, it's like, you know, like

30s, 40s.

Like, you know, not that I'm an antique.

I ain't antique.

You know, my early 50s.

Yeah.

But yeah,

that's the reason why I said that because a lot of the ladies, I was like the ladies' man in that era.

Right.

And he's a ladies' man in this era.

Yes, indeed.

Major label or independent.

I just saw, I think it was Stephanie.

I think Stephanie Mills, I think it's Shaka Khan and I think Patty LaBelle I think they're going on a tour and I think they asked Stephanie you know and she says independent she said because the the record companies mainly are marketing she says I know what I want I know what I'm looking for

so for me independent is the where to go so I because All that needs to come to me because I'm the one that's doing all the work.

Where are you on that Warren?

You independent or you

record?

I'm independent.

I'm independent.

she right you know

I can do a lot of the stuff myself like I can go I can do the like some of the new records I got I could do the record like I got a record with me and Wiz Khalifa a dope record I it's I think it's gonna be a top 40

taking that record and

doing

clips, doing like a video of it, and then doing clips and then doing ads with that on tick tock and people taking it and doing their own versions of dancing to it and doing different things that's tick tock is pretty much your new marketing tool yeah that's your new marketing it's a marketing tool uh

instagram you know paying for ads on instagram even google ads facebook ads you know with just a bunch of clips just pushing those clips of what you have and that drives all of the traffic it drives your merch up it drives your streaming up um

but i i i uh

i'm gonna try something

well i'm not gonna even try i'm gonna do

something different it's it's not a whole lot different but i want to kind of i want to try and bring back

uh

more of vinyl and CDs because people ain't got rid of their CD players or they vinyl players.

No.

So I want to do a special edition.

I'm going to do some special editions.

I'm going to print up maybe 5,000, 10,000 vinyls or CDs

and sell those

to the true fan base.

You know what I mean?

And

just to get that

nostalgia man.

Yeah,

exactly, because it's like

This the computer world is like

We don't know how they could change numbers.

you know what I mean do all kind of stuff so just to do that for the fans and and and give them that realness again

it'll be different you know it'll be different and and I'm sure a lot of people will probably follow that motto actually I got a few friends that is using that motto already and it's it's they successful with it right

where are you on the streaming I hear a lot of people say, man, hey, Snoop was one of the first that like, man, that's streaming.

He'd say, I can't keep up with it.

He's like, they sending me a check, you know, four or five thousand dollars.

And then some people, like, you know,

probably getting, I can only imagine what a Drake is getting from streaming because he's doing a bit of the weekend, yeah, or Travis Scott, or Taylor Swift, or Beyonce.

I can only imagine because they're doing, you know, it seems like every time I turn around, Drake is this, and Drake is that, and Beyonce, and Taylor Swift is this, and they're that.

So I can only imagine, but where are you?

Where are you on the streaming?

I mean, I don't like it

because,

but I got to deal with it because it's

the way the business is.

It is what it is now.

Yeah, but

I don't like it because you can't really monitor

those numbers.

We can't.

They tell you that it might be more.

Yeah, yeah, I'm sure.

In a lot of cases, that it is more, but

it's the way of the game, so you got to change with the way the game changed.

But like I was saying, like doing that,

bringing that vinyl and those CDs back, that'll give you know the true fans something to really hardware.

You know what I mean?

That

they can

touch and feel because you can't touch strings or do anything.

You can't grab that and pop it in your CD player.

But you can pop this CD in here.

You can't pop that vinyl on that record player.

And get that.

The last song we're going to have you to perform is

ain't no fun yeah

um

how did this how did this how did this ain't no fun how did that come about uh ain't no well i actually walked in on ain't no fun

uh

we was recording that uh

village village studio right there in santa monica and uh

i walked in on it and and

They was like Warren you want to you want to do a verse and I was like yeah, I do one

but the concept of ain't no fun was like,

ain't no fun if the homies can't have none.

We just young teens.

Even the ladies, like young teens just having a good time partying, having a great time,

you know,

having fun.

Right.

And,

you know.

I'm not going to get mad if she danced with you or you guys, you know, kissing or whatever.

I ain't going to get mad.

Ain't Ain't no fun if the homies can't have none, right?

So it's just like not being a hater,

a player hater, you know, just being able to have fun and be around a lot of beautiful ladies

and the ladies being around a lot of great-looking guys.

And ain't no fun if the homies can't have none.

The ladies

feel the same way, they sing it just like we sing it, you know what I mean?

Right, yeah, oh, yeah.

Nate kiltin,

yeah,

like baby.

I can't say before you opened up your cabin

I had respect for you lady

But now I take it all back

Ay

Cause you gave me all you say

Yeah

And you even lick my balls

Oh wow

Lead your number on the cabinet

And I promise, baby, I give you a call.

Hey,

next time I'm feeling kinda home, nate.

You could come on over and I'll break you off.

Hey.

And if you can't fuck that day, baby,

just lay back and open your mouth.

Nay.

Let's be real.

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I can't

have never

met a girl.

I hope I got close on that record.

And

that was a record.

Like I said, it was us having fun,

having a good time.

And I just hit him with that.

Three to get ready and four to hit the switches in my Chevy.

Six, four, rag to be exact.

With on my side and f on my back so back up because I'm struggling just get on your knees and then start juggling these motherfucking nuts in your mouth it's me warranty to with the clout

if the homies can't

it ain't no fun

if the homies can't

yeah

yes indeed

Some people

having done this now for five years and talked to a lot of different

people that do what you do, some people, they like it quiet in the studio.

It's just them, got the headset on, going.

Some people like a lot of people running around, a lot of chaos and ruptures.

Some people smoking, whatever the case may be.

When you go into the studio, how do you want it?

You want it nice and quiet?

You want chaos.

You want women running around.

You want the homeboy spider.

How does Warren want it?

Chaos.

Chaos.

Because

When I say that, because you got, you know, you have some people that, like we said, running around.

Some people don't even do music and this, that, and this.

But those people and all that chaos in there, they gonna tell you what's sounding good and what ain't sounding good.

The ladies is gonna be dancing, doing their thing.

When the ladies dancing, you know you gotta.

You got one.

You got one.

Okay.

And

they gonna tell you the truth, you know, right?

And,

you know, so I like I like the chaos.

I like a bunch of people to be in there.

I like for it it to be a good party vibe and just feel good, you know.

And

I like to warm it up.

I come in, you know, I'll have me, you know,

a joint road.

You know, I'll have me some drink.

And,

you know, by the way, some of this good old...

Salute.

I promise.

Look,

before you drink it, I promise you.

That is the best cognac that you've ever going to taste.

I promise you.

Hey, you keep it real.

We're going to keep the camera rolling We ain't saying anything.

I promise you.

If that's not the best cognac, no sugars, no artificial colors, that brown is from the barrel, the oak barrels.

That's a beautiful.

From the sugars?

Wow.

From the grapes.

Wow.

A uni blanc grade and a petite champagne.

That's the combination that we use.

Magnifico.

Wow.

Let me say.

Well, hey.

That's to my own boy, Shannon Sharp.

Yeah, see that shade by Laportier.

I promise, Warren, I promise you, you're not going to be disappointed.

I promise you.

Wow.

That is a different.

Yeah, that is.

Now,

you say you're on the grill like that.

That's what you say.

You say you be on the grill hard.

That's what I do outside of hip-hop.

So you're a pit master, for real.

I'm a hip-hop pit master, for real.

Yes indeed.

Yes indeed.

I got some food for you.

Okay.

Let me ask you this.

Of all the videos that you've been in, let's just say that they weren't yours.

A G-Fang,

Jenning Juice.

What's your favorite video to be in?

What was your favorite one?

You had the most fun?

I'll say G Thang.

That was young Warren,

that was before Warren G.

Yes.

And I was just there supporting Snoop and Dre.

And the whole day was just full of fun, full of...

A bunch of people just, you know, we having a real barbecue.

We was out there for real, like really, like having a real picnic.

And was, it was

just so much fun.

And then they caught me

in the video, rolling a joint, and kept it in the video because I was like, I'm trying to smoke.

So I'm dancing, I'm partying.

They caught me rolling the joint.

So that, and to this day, everybody still be like, Warren, wasn't that you rolling that?

I'm like, yeah, that was me.

You know, but

that was the most fun I had, man.

And because all my homeboys was there.

Yeah.

Dre DLC,

uh,

my our crew was there.

Every, I mean, it was, it was just all our Long Beach buddies was there.

It was a bunch of dudes from Compton, uh, even Inglewood, everybody was there just having a good time, man.

And um, was that the first time you had ever been in a video?

Uh,

you know, what I had, I was in a

I ain't talking about those kind of video, I'm talking about

ladies and gentlemen.

Well, you know what?

Nah,

I was in

Easy Does it.

Yeah, no, Easy Does it.

I was in Easy Does it.

Me and my brother Tyree,

they flashed on us real quick, but we was in Easy Does it way back in the day.

Yeah.

But the fun, the most fun I had was G-Thang, man.

I had a ball.

Yes, indeed.

Music, you mentioned that you got a song coming out with Wiz.

So are you going to, is it just a song?

You got an album coming out?

So what's next for Warren G?

A lot of good music.

Like I said, I got, me and Wiz got a really great record called Mad and All.

Me and Snoop got a, me, Snoop, and Corrupt got a really dope record.

It's called the Doberman Gang.

Right.

I got solo records.

I got a record that I know that everybody is going to love this one.

It's called We Gonna Dance Again.

Really, really dope record.

All the records is dope.

I actually got a record with Lil Wayne called All Alone.

Working on that one.

Right.

You know, to get the clearance on that.

Wayne, you did the record.

Got to clear it, buddy.

Right.

My guy, love you.

You know,

really dope record.

Me and Nate got a...

a record called I Found You

that's

people gonna really love that combination again.

I'm giving them that again.

Me and you know, never heard before record with me and Nate called I Found You, it's a really dope record.

And I just, I got a bunch of,

I don't want to give everything away, but I got a lot of great music coming.

I'm still active.

I'm not

like done with the music because you're never too old to make a hit record.

Just constantly working.

I'm constantly doing work outside of hip-hop

as far as my barbecue sauces and rugs.

I'm the hip-hop pit master.

I'm actually getting ready to do a cook with my team up in Alabama at the Crimson Tide for 2,500 people.

We're going to go in.

That's going to take you a couple of days to get ready for that.

Well, I'm just the guy that, you know, I'm the guy that tells, you know, I'm going to

manage.

All my pit men, my other pit masters, they're going to do their thing.

This is when I get to chill.

Like what I did with the food I cooked, I did this, you know, but I have my team and we get down.

And

I do that outside as well as

investing in real estate.

Right.

You know, so just trying to stay busy and

do it all because I want it all.

Right.

And I can understand that.

Clear this up.

I think there's a misunderstanding.

The Super Bowl was in L.A.

Dr.

Dre, Snoop, I think 50, M, Mary J.

And

you said you weren't.

I don't know if you were.

I mean, I'm sure you would have loved to perform, but

you wanted like tickets to be like, have your son.

You wanted to take your son and you wanted to be on the field so your son could see that up close.

Yeah.

And that wasn't able to happen.

Was there a misunderstanding?

Was there late communication?

What, what,

clear up what actually happened?

Did you put the ticket request in a timely manner?

Because you can't wait.

Definitely.

You can't wait till the day before the performance.

No, no, no.

I had talked to some people and we were supposed to connect once I got there.

And

everything just went blank.

And I was sitting in the...

in the regular you listening

yeah in the stands and people was like what are you doing what you doing up here like even like, like, I think I seen Stephen A.

and a couple other cats, like, they was like, What you doing up here?

And uh, no, that was Nate, Nate, but Nate Burl.

Nate Burlson.

Yeah, Nate Burlson.

He was like, What you doing up here?

You're supposed to be down there performing.

I was like,

you know,

I'm not performing.

I'm just here to, you know, here.

Yeah, that's you player.

And I'm just here to support, bro.

I'm just happy to be in the house.

You know what I'm saying?

Yeah.

And, but it was just, it was just the communication just wasn't right, you know.

And

in two years you know it's by I think it's back in LA and next year.

Yeah, that's dope, but at overall I wasn't like bitter about performing or anything like that.

I was just there to support and I just wanted my son to be

one of your best friends his uncle see everybody.

Yes, and it was just like

the shit wasn't happening.

I'm hitting everybody.

We was talking and shit before all this and now I can't get nobody.

That man can't get nobody on the ball.

Everybody's shit shut down.

So I was like,

I was pissed off, but

I got over it.

You know, I wasn't,

you know, I wasn't tripping, but it was just like.

That was just the one thing that you really would have wanted your son to experience.

Yeah, I wanted him to get down there because he was home

from home from camp.

What was it?

Whatever it was, I think they had a buy.

Because he played with the Bills.

So they had a buy.

So he was at home.

whatever it was, he was off for like, I think

a week or something, a few days, something like that.

I don't know, but he was at home.

So this was happening.

So I wanted him, I don't know, it actually couldn't have been a bye.

The season was over with.

So he was home

from the season.

So just taking him out, just taking him around and letting him hang out.

You know, we hanging out together, you know, and I wanted them to really see, you know, everybody up close, up close and meet everybody and see

all his family and the whole nine.

And it just didn't happen.

But like I said, I ain't bitter about it

and wasn't bitter about performing or

none of that.

It would have been good.

I would have loved to do it.

But hey, it didn't happen.

But I ain't tripping off of it.

I was just pissed off we didn't get the chance to

be down there now.

And so I was mad at everybody.

But them niggas.

But you put that past you now because

there's too much great history.

Because

a lot of times people will forget the 30 great years that we've had in that one instance ruin 30 years.

And I'm not,

for me, I can see if it's 30 years of bad and one good time.

I said, nah, one good thing can't erase 30 years, but one bad thing can't erase 30 years in my eyes.

Yeah, not at all.

Yeah.

So I want to get this.

How did you go from

music to say, you know what?

I'm going to do, I'm going to do, I'm going to be a cook.

I'm going to be a pit master.

I've always did it.

Always.

So you've always been in the kitchen like that?

Always.

My father,

he used to just cook.

My dad used to cook at a lot of family functions and

just watching him and being around.

And the fun times we would have, you know, with cousins and friends at the reunions and good food.

We eating good food.

It just stuck with me.

So even before I was Warren G,

Snoop would tell you, like all of them would tell you, I used to just cook.

I would cook everywhere we was at, hustling, no matter what it was, just to

ease the pain of things.

I would cook and play good music.

Right.

And I kept doing it, you know.

kept on and kept on and a lot of my friends was just like warm you need to come out with a product all you do is cook you a barbecue guy you a pit master why don't you come up with some sauces and rubs so

talked to my pops talked to a few of my other friends that chefs

and they they act they helped me put everything together from all the way from the saucers to the rubs did a few tastings

tasted different rubs went into spice companies uh went into formulated formulation companies as far as the sauces to sit down and tasting everything until it came it was to my liking and

all of that stuff just you know and food ain't going nowhere it's a good it's a good business yes for sure to be in and

I just I just was like man this is something I really love to do is and it's a peace of mind for me to barbecue and and and just sit down and listen to good music, have a beer, smoke a joint, barbecue, chill,

have a good time.

Do you eat pork?

Yeah.

Well, I'm in the Muslim reserves.

I didn't want to cook no pork.

I'm in the Muslim reserves.

One week in out of the money, two weeks out of the year, I don't eat no pork.

The other than that, I eat pork.

Yes, it did.

Yeah, I did.

I didn't want to bring no pork, but I.

But

you ain't cook no pork?

I pulled it off.

I pulled it off.

I brought some.

It was,

I had to go hiding fast, but I made it happen.

I got some pork ribs.

Yeah, yeah,

beef flanking.

Yeah, some pig feet, yeah, bacon, bones, pepperoni, styles, coffee, yeah, yeah, all that.

Pigtail?

Oh, yeah.

Neg bone?

Pig ear?

Yeah.

No chili now.

I ain't gonna lie, every year I eat some chili.

You eat chilies too?

I eat some chili

every holiday season.

Oh, holiday.

My sister will cook them, and then I I'll eat them.

So let me make sure you wear the dry.

You like this?

This is

a dry rub.

This is a dry rub.

Yeah, dry rub.

Pretty much that one right there is more for

pork.

Okay.

Turkey, chicken.

Seafood.

Yeah, you can put it the seafood as well.

And then they...

Not too hot.

I mean, you ain't got too hot, do you not?

No.

You know, sometimes people are, whoo, whoo.

No.

That's good.

No, I can't can't taste it.

It ain't good if it's too hot.

No, it's not.

It's not soup.

It's not like burning hot.

I got a We Bring seat that's got a little kick to it, but it's really good.

So is this?

So

where can they find this?

Sniffin' GriffinsBBQ.com.

Okay.

Yes, indeed.

Yes, indeed.

This is a really good thing.

This is the original.

Yes, indeed.

This is the dry rub, the original barbecue.

Yeah.

And this one, so

one is your which one do you like the best this is an all-purpose rub right here uh

all of them i mean i use this one the all-purpose a lot because i could put it on any and everything i put it on

even fruit i put it on fruit i swear to god i put it on my fruit my egg whites any

five of that jay ain't it no not ain't no way you put that on no fry

all vegetables everything

no matter what i put it on everything so tell it so tell it so tell the people at home what did you what did you prepare today

well today I did some beef flanking ribs it's a cut instead of having the big giant rib that dino rib you ain't did a dino did you it's a not the dino rib it's a one inch cut of uh the dino rib but they one inch one inch cut okay and then i did some boneless skinless thighs and then i did some uh some

spare ribs okay yes indeed and some uh mac and cheese TT's mac and cheese.

I got some potato salad.

Dang.

Some good food.

Yes, indeed.

We gonna break it up?

Yeah, yeah.

Thank you.

Yes, indeed.

Y'all got funny old chuck plates.

Oh, yeah.

Woo!

Yeah.

All right.

That's...

These are beef flankings.

Okay.

Like I said, the thin cut of the ribs.

Okay.

And then you have the spare ribs.

Spare rib right here.

Then you got the

boneless skinless thy

mac and cheese TT's mac and cheese and potatoes

yes indeed

my grace right quick

what should I try first mac and cheese you could try the mac and cheese yeah

Oh, yeah.

I'm going to get a little bit both right quick.

Oh, yeah.

Mac and cheese, I like it.

Oh, yeah.

Chicken.

Bone, the skin, the style.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, you did it.

Oh, yeah.

Yes, I did.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Oh, man.

This beef rip caught the ball.

My slogan, bite through, not fight through.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah, you just hear it.

Yeah.

Man, I mean, like I was on the plantation for a couple of days.

I ain't had nothing to eat since early in the morning, but no.

You did your thing with this now.

All things being equal, I like pork ribs better than I like beef ribs because mostly everybody now wants to do the dino.

That's too much.

I can't eat that.

Oh, yeah.

I'm going to give this little poke button now.

I do a little song with it.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Let me see.

You made this potato salad too?

Yeah.

I ain't the biggest potato salad fan, so.

It's got a twist to it, but

I like to look thick.

I like a little.

Guess what I use in it?

Some one of the ingredients.

It do got a nice little nice little twain.

And I ain't the biggest potato salad, y'all, but

I'll deal with it.

Y'all trying the food?

Yeah, we're gonna try it.

Oh, yeah.

I don't need no sauce.

I'm good.

Yeah, that's

chicken, potato salad, pork ribs, mac and cheese.

Like I said, I'm not a big beef.

I'm not a big beef.

Okay.

Yes, indeed.

But the beet rib, they're very tender.

I mean, they're very, very, very.

Yes, indeed.

So when you travel, do you make it a point to try to go to different cities and try their barbecue?

Yes, indeed.

Every city I go to, I try.

Every city.

Because you want to see if there's something...

Could I do something something different?

Is there something I can add?

Maybe I need to take something out.

So obviously, you know,

what cities have the best barbecue?

Austin, Austin, Texas.

I hear a lot of them on the food channel and stuff, but I see them on IG.

People be talking about Austin.

Yeah,

they got a lot of good barbecue.

It's a spot called Goldie's that I like.

Actually, I met a lot of these guys, I met them personally, the Pit Masters, and I've talked to them.

They gave me pointers on

smoking meat and stuff like that.

Yeah, so.

I mean, to be good, I mean,

for the most part,

to be really good at this, you got to be doing this for some years.

Yeah.

I'm talking about years and years.

And most of them,

if you're not overweight, I don't even want, I ain't trying to eat no barbecue because that means you ain't ain't eating your barbecue.

If you cook it like you say you cook it.

Yeah, yes indeed.

I mean,

it definitely

takes a lot of patience.

Yeah, because, you know, you got to prep it.

You got to let it marinate this long,

you know,

low and slow.

Yes, indeed.

So

that's why, like, the beef is so tender.

Oh, yeah, the beef, literally literally

off the bone.

Yeah, chicken,

it's all

it's very it's very tender.

Bite through, not fight through.

That's what I call it.

So uh what sauce did you put on the ribs?

I put

the OG rub on the pork ribs.

Okay.

I put the all-purpose on the uh the beef flankings.

And

the chicken I use the OG rub as well.

Okay.

And then with the potato salad,

I put the potato salad together and I mixed my all-purpose in with the potato salad as well.

And then that's TT's mac and cheese.

Yeah.

This concludes the first half of my conversation.

Part two is also posted, and you can access it to whichever podcast platform you just listen to part one on.

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