Crock-Dough-Burn-Pho-Est: Silverlake Ramen with Betsy Sodaro

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Hey, buddy, the Doughboys are coming to New York Comic-Con.

That's right, we are going to be at the Javit Center on Friday, October 10th at 3:45 p.m.

Eastern for a panel with a signing immediately afterwards.

How cool is that?

That's right, Wags.

New York City, here we come.

The big apple.

The city of dreams.

The city that never sleeps.

The Big Apple.

Wise, there hasn't been a con this big since 2020.

Don't get me started.

We are also going to be at Forbidden Planet on Saturday, October 11th at 4 p.m.

Eastern for a signing.

So come to the Javit Center on Friday.

Come to Forbidden Planet on Saturday.

We'd love to meet y'all.

We'd love to have you come out.

It's not just going to be me and Mitch, although it is going to be me and Mitch in person.

We're going to be there in person.

Will Jemmy be there?

We don't know.

Maybe she's coming.

She's not coming.

I didn't think Jemmy's coming.

Jemmy, you're not going to come?

Scheduled to appear, Jemmy.

How about that?

Is that where can we get away with that?

We'll look at it.

Scheduled to appear with an asterisk.

Scheduled to appear.

But Mitch and I will be there, as will our writer, Alex Fearer, our artist Fred C.

Stressing, our colorist, Meg Casey.

So we'll get to talk to all of them on the panel.

But please, we'd love to see y'all.

So please come on out to New York City Comic-Con.

Wags, for our panel, we're going to be talking about the making of the comic.

And we have some convention exclusives, including a print by Roger Landridge and a Doughboy's tote bag.

A Muppets-inspired print that is so, so cool by the original artist.

And then

the tote bag is awesome too.

So yeah,

that's all stuff you can get at the Javit Center.

So yeah,

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And October 11th at Forbidden Planet, that's the Saturday.

We'll see you there.

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Perhaps, one could speculate the kind of diet that might be consumed by the host of a fast food podcast.

And perhaps this sort of body and brain punishing intake could lead one to completely forget that a particular chain restaurant was discussed on said podcast just this past year.

Nevertheless, the chain in question, named for the same LA neighborhood that contains the headquarters of a lightly staffed podcast network, has become a major player in the hot savory liquid sector with about two dozen locations spread across the U.S.

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This week on Doughboys, we begin Croc Dough Burn Fa S 2025, a supersized month of bisques, broths, stews, and stocks, and crocs, as we return, somehow for the first time since last year, I guess, to Silver Lake Ramen.

Welcome to Doughboys, the podcast about chain restaurants.

I'm Tiger Weiger, along with my co-host

Chowders for Algernon,

like Flowers for Algernon, the Spoon Man, Mike Mitchell.

Welcome to Twisted Monthal.

It's not Twisted Monthal, Mitch.

In fact, it is Croc Dough Burn Phoest, our October theme.

Yes, yes, it is.

A supersized month of bisques, broths, stews, and stocks, and crocs.

We will be talking crocodiles on the double as part of Soup Month.

That was an Emma pitch.

Croc

Dough, burn, pho, est.

So, okay.

I pitched a different idea.

The Deus was on board with the other idea.

I'm so fucking mad at you.

I can't believe you're starting the month with this shit when I explained to you off pod why we couldn't do it.

I get it.

Now you're just like, oh, we have, I had this great idea.

The Deus was on board with me.

I guess someone vetoed me.

Yeah, it was fucking me.

And I had a real reason to do it because of shit happening in my life.

I know.

I can't believe you're starting the episode.

Hold on a second.

Mitch, this is fucked up, dude.

I just wanted you to say that I could do it next year.

Okay, great.

Yeah, do it next year.

Why not?

I can do it next year.

Yeah, why not?

All right.

We're in.

I thought it was fun.

It's just like we couldn't.

I agree.

Did I not say, yes, we can do it?

Yeah.

I said, we can do it.

And then you said, how about these two names?

I said, that other one.

And then you picked this bullshit.

This one's good.

Crock dough burn fast.

Whatever you want.

Hi, Doughboys crew.

Here's a roast in honor of Mitch becoming the smart one this year.

It's also a little Massachusetts theme.

I pulled a reverse Mitch and moved from my hometown of Los Angeles to Boston for nursing grad school last year.

Wow, thank you for your service.

Sincerely, Chris Actually from Somerville, Massachusetts.

Chris Actually.

Chris Actually.

Chris Actually.

Hair scraping the underside of a door.

P.S.

Mitch once called me a coward in an episode with Susser after my girlfriend approached him while she was working at the village bakery.

So this is payback.

Oh, yes.

I remember this, I think.

You remember this?

Yeah, but I mean, there's been a lot of cowards.

There's a lot of listeners whose

significant others have approached us.

I'm not actually mad at you.

You're very.

I don't know, folks.

Let's watch that tape back.

We're having to.

We're having it.

I

look, we were talking about a lot of different months.

Yeah.

I wasn't trying to bring this up to bring up your personal life.

And you said, this month might be a little too hard this month with the stuff that's going on.

I said, I completely understand.

And then we landed on soups.

Soups is good.

Soups is great.

Soups is good.

And then today I came in and you said, it's our first time doing Silver Lake Ramen.

And I went, no, it's not.

Yeah, this is the thing.

Why didn't anyone tell me we've done this before?

It's not my fault.

It's not my fault you're losing your mind.

Or is it?

I don't know.

Maybe it is my fault.

We did this last year and I have no memory.

This year, correct?

With Sierra, yes.

I looked it up.

I was like, oh, yeah, that's right.

Yes, we did it.

We did some other things.

I figured it's been like a year.

It's okay.

Yeah, it's fine to, I guess it's fine to revisit.

But yeah, like, just mention it.

There's no pivot.

I mean none of the either on Taco Bell 25.

That's true.

I would stop anyway.

Fair enough.

I might have early onset dementia.

That might be what's happening.

This is, you said this.

Can I say what?

You and I went to the Chargers game.

That's true.

The Chargers build.

We've seen each other

three days in a row now.

Explains your fucking Vesuvius you had on me when the fucking episode.

We're going to have a good time.

We're having fun.

Yeah, I'm glad that it's just, you know, the big explosion you have on me is the one that I'm the most nervous about because it's the end of the show and end of my life.

But

we were, we were, we went to the Chargers game.

Yeah.

I'm trying to get you into an NFL team.

And

the Chargers are on the top of that list, it seems like.

I might be bolt-pilled.

I had a good time the Chargers game.

Bolt-pilled.

I like it.

Yeah.

Fun.

Get some bolt-ons.

I was bolt-pilled

when the movie Bolt came out.

Bolt was a lot of fun.

Bolt was a lot of fun.

The fast dog, I believe.

John Travolta was the voice of Bolt, I think.

Was he really?

And then it was one of those things.

There's a hamster.

I think there's a hamster and a little thing or a gerbil and a, you know,

in a week, like a ball he moves around.

And that was a thing where they temp-voiced it with one of the animators.

And the performance was so good, they were like, let's just use this guy in the movie.

They just cast him.

Hell yeah.

I guess that rules.

I guess.

Who is the fast snail?

Snoot?

What's his name?

We've talked about it.

We always get bolted confused with.

It might be turbo, but it might be nitro.

Oh, turbo or turbo.

Oh, shit.

Is it nitro or turbo?

The snail.

Fast snail.

And I won't rule 34 it for all the listeners out there who get mad at me for rule 34 and everything.

I won't rule 34

or bolt.

Turbo.

Snail trail.

It would definitely be.

Oh, God.

What was it that you said in San Francisco?

Male snail trail?

Male snail trail.

That's when you got a little wet one down there if you catch my drift.

A little wet butthole.

While we're in this territory, Mitch,

you know, we've talked about our T-scores for a while on this pod.

Yes.

My therapist had me get a testosterone test because I guess one of the side effects of a medication I'm on is altered testosterone levels.

I didn't do an at-home test.

My doctor ordered one.

I went in person to the lab.

So this is legit.

Okay, okay, okay, let's hear it.

Legit test.

I have the results.

The normal range for male testosterone is 240 to 871 nanograms per deciliter.

Oh, that's quite a range.

Yeah, 240 to 871 nanograms per deciliter.

Do you want to guess my score?

Whoa.

What's the average score again?

The normal range is 240 to 871.

Nanometers.

Nanograms per deciliter.

Nanograms.

Nanograms per deciliter.

It's fucking kind of a combo between a nana and a grandma, nanogram.

Yeah,

I guess so.

Yeah, sounds like something your grandma would send you a nanogram.

Yeah, nanogram.

That's right, yeah.

Hello.

Hmm.

I'm going to guess

your 212, the Detroit area code.

So you're getting, I'm below the normal range.

Yeah, yeah.

212, below 212.

Is 212 or is that Los Angeles?

No, 212.

212 is New York.

It's New York.

Oh, fuck.

All right, I guess 313.

That's Detroit, right?

Manhattan and New York City is too much.

I'm going to push you up.

I'm going to boost you up to 313.

You're saying 313.

Again, the normal range is 240 to 871 nanograms per deciliter.

My testosterone came in at 871 on the dots.

Oh, my God.

You're fucking juicing.

Like, I got a perfect score on the LSAT.

Wow.

That's fucking bullshit.

I'm pure virility.

That's what they're looking at.

So one more nanogram and you would have been too too much testosterone you know what honestly yeah would have been been over the over the limit

what are you sad about this is what peak performance looks like are you sad about

this guy can nut on command it sounds like jesus christ it sounds that's what it sounds like

And I remember I was shocked.

I got my testosterone taken one time and it was way, way, way lower back in the day.

Yeah.

we're talking 313 levels

not but it's still in and i was like that's pretty low and they're like that's actually within the range and i was like that's low as hell it's within the range but it's a wide range it's within the range you're fine yeah you don't need to worry about it so if you're outside the range it's a problem

i need i i i gotta do something we both gotta do something let's end the podcast no

That's doing silver like ramen for the second time in two years.

That's on you.

You just forgot.

I know, but like this is.

I said, okay, okay, soup thing.

You You gave me two choices of the name.

This is the name.

That's the name.

Let me bring it up.

Crock Doe Burn Foe S.

I think it's pretty good.

Fu.

Fuss.

Fuss.

I think it's pretty good.

Hold on, let me find the other name.

I like the other name.

You like the other name?

I think you like this name.

It was like 25.

There is.

No, there were some names I did not like, to be clear.

I'm scrolling.

I'm scrolling.

Burn, sip, burp, or whatever the fuck it got to at one point.

Crock faux, burn, sip.

Crock, foe.

I liked crock bow faux burn sip.

You're saying faux is pho.

That's the problem.

The portmanteau collapses when you say it when you make it at faux for dough.

You said no one cares, nerd.

People will kiss.

Mitch.

People will

absolutely get it.

But they're dorks.

And you'll be mad about it.

Sit down.

You'll be mad about it.

Sit down.

You're not standing up.

You're not.

They're sitting.

Sit down.

They're laying down.

They have to get up.

You liked crock dough broth sip.

I like crock dough broth sip.

Crock dough broth sip.

Crock dough broth sip.

It doesn't sound like anything.

Oktoberfest is what we're doing a play on.

Crock Doe Burn Fest.

Crock Doe Burn Fest is an attempt at that.

Let me just say.

Crock Doe Broth Sip is just abandoning it entirely.

Midway.

I was going to say this, guys.

You got to promise you can't get mad again.

For the other idea.

I was going to fly to the other side of the globe for the other one.

Yes, I was.

No, you were.

I was, too.

I was going to do it.

I was gonna.

We can't say what the idea is.

So Reddit thought you were gonna fly to Denver this morning, and I laughed at how far off they were.

Oh, I was gonna fly to the other side of the world.

Wait, did you mention this already on something?

No, I didn't.

I didn't.

We bleeped it.

We bleeped it.

Why did they say?

Because you said I was gonna fly to bleep.

Oh, you said you were gonna fly something on another action.

October, and then Wax was like, well, don't spoil it.

So we bleeped it.

And then we didn't even end up doing the idea yet.

But we're saving it.

So.

Can I tell Beth?

Can we bleep again?

Yeah.

It was.

It was.

what

go to

yeah just meet me

oh yeah well you i mean he's not gonna come i'm not coming wait all right hold on yeah next year we can do it and betsy and i can go yeah it's fine yeah

i'm in i'm in

but again

yeah i was like when you tell a little kid they're gonna have a step now they're really gonna think it's dead

another another

this is the thing like another issue with that excited about going back to denver

another issue with this uh with this alternate theme is I didn't think we could come up with more than two restaurants that actually qualified.

Like when people started pitching restaurants, I was like,

that doesn't make any sense.

That doesn't work.

This is, this is,

we can't get too detailed.

Okay,

it felt tricky for a number of reasons.

We were going to go.

All right, hold on.

We were going to go to.

You got to bleep it again.

Yeah, yeah.

We're going to go to

restaurants.

Great.

Bleep, bleep, bleep.

Great.

And that was, there's, there's just

four or five of them.

It was.

and for the place that you're in right now wax and we care about you and love you and you were being you know like like uh you know you're going through your shit and i'm like a very thoughtful care caring person and i said uh don't worry uh i got your back here we won't do this bullshit we'll be your bullshit i'm dealing with a lethally high testosterone level

Yeah, I'm the burger boy.

I think I get a new, I got a new name, Mr.

T.

I can't believe you're, I can't believe believe this.

I was shocked.

I can't believe it either.

It's like, you know, like, you know, like one of those, like, shotguns can hold a lot of ammunition if you catch my drift.

Wait, what were you going to say?

Like, did you feel different?

Like, have you ever?

After I knew?

Or before, like, anything changed?

Yeah, did you grab the doctor and spin him on your finger?

Shoot him and

shoot him.

No, I mean, like, I mean, I feel insane.

I feel generally insane.

Okay.

So,

you've talked about this over there.

I feel generally like I'm losing myself.

You're working on it.

I'm working on it.

And you've gotten yourself out there.

We hung out with you last night.

Mitch, that was a lovely gesture.

You, Jordan Morris wrangled it all together.

We went to a fun bar over on my side of town.

You and Gabris and Jordan all joined.

We had a lovely time.

We talked a lot of shit, which is what you want to do in one of those sorts of things.

That's all you want to do.

And guess guess who got a little Taco Bell on the ride home?

Wow.

Yeah, what'd you get?

2000 menu.

I fucking wrapped it up.

Yep.

We got that on Saturday.

Cool Ranch Dorillo.

Lot of fun.

Cool Ranch Dorillo's Taco Supreme.

Yep.

I got a Cool Ranch

Gordita Crunch, though I kind of just like the regular Gordita Crunch.

I don't need the flavor in there.

I got a double-decker taco.

I didn't eat all of this.

And I got a

chili

chili cheese burrito.

So good.

That was really good.

It's so, I never got it in the 2000s.

I never got it either.

It was my first time having it.

Awesome.

It's great.

And you know what's fucking delicious?

That apple empanada.

Pretty good.

It's great.

Wow.

Pretty good.

I got to try this fucking thing.

It's fantastic.

Yeah.

I think it puts the McDonald's apple pie to shame.

Wow.

Absolutely.

It's fucking

not the highest bar.

I do like an apple pie, but I mean, like, yeah, but that does make it because it seems like it's got a better sort of.

I said apple empanada is actually

legit.

It's very good.

Yeah.

It's very, very good.

It's so good.

Wow.

Yeah.

Gabe Gabris a ride home.

Yeah.

It It was great.

Only problem with the Apple and Padata, it's $499.

And it was a new one

after two years.

Yeah.

I just updated my Apple Pada.

I'm a new charger.

A new charging hole.

Now I have to change all my chargers.

God.

Big gun in the ass.

I'm going to sync this thing to iCloud.

Fuck.

Tim Cook, literally.

That's the thing.

You got to Tim Cook it.

Yeah.

Wise, I've got to bring this up because we talked about it beforehand and Betsy and I might write this movie.

Yes.

Oh, yeah.

And Amelia says that we should bring it up.

Well,

do we want to introduce our guests before we do that?

Oh, also, Emma, hit him with a drop.

I have to go to the bathroom.

Oh, you do?

Okay.

It's okay.

It's so early in the show.

It's all right.

It's all right.

I'm going to just say this.

It is because of what we did today.

We're now opening it up to the fact that we know which portal needs to open.

Portal needs to open.

open portal needs.

Who knows?

I need the fear.

I need the fear to come back just right away.

You get what I'm saying.

This guy's a soul judger.

Soul judger.

I like that beetle.

Yeah, the beat was very good.

That was cool.

That was cool.

I feel, yeah, I feel cool.

Such talented drop creators out there.

Spooky poops.

That's the email.

Wow.

Hey, all.

Made this drop to spread awareness of Mitch's new fear-based shitting strategy into Warn of the Soul Judger.

No beats.

That's who it's from.

No beats.

Well done, no beats.

Thank you, no beats.

That was cool.

Drops at birdfuck.com.

You know what I mean?

This person should get a record deal.

I concur.

Wags, you've been down.

That's right.

I just want to say this to you.

The world has been entertainment deprived.

We're starved for good entertainment.

True, yeah.

And

you're adding something to it.

All right.

You want to say so.

I've questioned whether I should stay in this industry myself, but

you gave your life to this.

You care about it.

Yeah, I mean, this is the thing.

You can't re-roll your life.

I read about Chris Actually's thing of going to nursing grad school.

That is a sort of thing.

I think back on like, eh, maybe I should have just gone to nursing school.

Remember, my mom was a nurse.

Noble profession feels like a thing.

You know, like, I'd feel like I was actually like helping people and make a tangible difference in the world.

Hey, you geeky.

You are making a tangible difference in the world, timing.

I'd like to quote.

Some of the Rogan verse here.

Comedians are some of the most important people in the world, lives.

I think that you make, I think you make a difference.

I mean, that's all bullshit, but I made it a lot.

I think you make a lot of people happy.

totally and we got nothing good grogu and mandalorian what the is that it looks like

yeah the mandalorian and grogu i mean i you know i don't know i'm trying to be completely looks like some tv bullshit i'm trying to be completely cynical about it but it does feel like mandalorian kind of already concluded and then they did another season and now they're also doing a movie it's just like how long are we going to stretch this thing out Disney, you know what?

Keep that energy with unsubscribing from Disney Plus and Hulu.

Fucking unsubscribe from Netflix too.

It's all bullshit.

It all sucks.

You're doing a good job.

Yeah, and Peacock.

No.

No, watch this metal.

Nope.

Watch this metal.

And

keep paramount plus.

Watch ghost.

I'll back the studios more than I will the fucking streaming people.

Wags, you're doing great.

I'm not fishing for that, but thank you for that.

Well,

I'm giving it to you.

You mean a lot to a lot of people.

That's nice of you.

That's so nice.

It's so true.

It's the truth.

And also, you may think you're bad, bad, but entertainment's so bad that you're not bad.

That's a good thing.

I guess if we're grading on a curve, yeah.

You know, I'm still like a D, but still, you know, that's not bad.

That's passing.

I think you're

817.

What was your testosterone scholar?

871.

871.

Yeah.

Whenever it was close.

Staggering.

Our guest today from Ghosts, We Love Trash, and a Funny Feeling, Betsy Sedaro is back.

Hi, Betsy.

Thank you so much for being here.

For having me.

I'm so pumped to be here.

We We love you guys.

We love you too.

We're always pumped to have you.

One of our favorite guests.

One of the funniest people on earth.

I love hanging out with you guys.

Such a blast.

Did you meet anyone as fun as Betsy in nursing school?

No way.

No way.

Except the nurse who probably accidentally kills people.

Sorry, a lot of people behind your IVs.

She's awesome, but a lot of people die on her walk.

We got to talk about this idea

that I saw organically arise as we were doing our pre-show meeting.

You might want to start investing right now, my man.

Get on board.

You've heard of Sister Act.

Yes.

Betsy and I want to do Brother Act,

where I dress up as a nun and go to a nunnery.

What's the good part of the call?

Yeah,

we'll research this.

Yeah, we'll research that.

I think we do no research.

We just pull from what we kind of remember and from Sister Act.

I love it.

And also, I love that Betsy already claimed a character named Sister Act.

She's doing sister trash.

We don't know what her deal is, but she's there and they become friends.

But yeah, Mitch will be an undercover nun

and will not shave.

No, my beer is going to stay.

He's going to be justified.

He's going to break a little girl's hand by hitting him with a ruler.

With a ruler.

I'm going to get a boner and pretend it's a crucifix.

Those are unrelated.

I just want to say.

Oh,

yes.

Break a little girl's hand and then get a boner.

Oh, yeah.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

it's not gonna be a nasty movie.

It's not nasty.

It's a fun movie.

It's a fun movie.

It's a fun movie.

It's forever.

PG, maybe PG-13 with a long movie.

We're going PG-13 to R.

I don't think this is an R.

We're an R?

Is it American Pie an R?

We really need you to fall and your whole nun dress go over your back and we see your butt.

Yeah, that's good as hell.

That's funny.

I guess I.

Sister Mitchell, you're supposed to wear.

I guess if the thing you're trying to do is you're going to, you're like, like, we're going to, we're going to go further than sister act.

This will be a sister act for grown-ups instead of like trying to do a four-quadrant thing.

You could do like a hard R.

Yeah.

Right.

That could be a part of the pitch.

Yeah.

And then it is like, is there, like in Sister Act, we got a choir.

What are you joining?

Oh, great question.

That is a good question.

Or do all the nuns start being like, I think Sister Mitch is actually right about what's going on in the world.

Like, they start following you

more than Catholicism.

I like that.

I like that.

You start a cult.

Yeah, I love that.

Something like that, maybe.

I like that.

I changed some stuff in the Catholicism.

You changed some stuff in the Catholicism.

It should end with, I should meet the Pope at the end of it.

Yeah.

Fixed Catholicism?

Yeah, if I fixed Catholicism.

That's good.

Make Catholicism cool again.

Again.

That is the end of Sister Act, is that it becomes there,

the convent's choir becomes such a sensation that the pope makes a visit, and you see

a fake Pope John Paul II from the back, like rocking out to say, and that's the action.

We'll follow him.

Yeah, it's great.

It is really good.

Maybe we'll do that too.

Yeah, great.

Fine.

Sister Mitch joins the choir and helps save the church.

Yeah, yeah, maybe.

And the pope comes.

We're getting into the 2025 and you start like an epic Twitch channel or something with your fellow parents

when you're like screaming things.

Great.

That's good.

That's great.

Yeah, would there be a Zoomer nun?

I mean, I guess you'd probably have to, right?

Like a super online, like TikTok nun is one of the because you know, you got to have a bunch of different archetypes within the convent.

We want it to be like a

yeah.

I think the tone we're going for is uh is like how high, basically.

That's kind of what we're looking for.

That sounds good.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Are you in?

Uh, yeah, I'm in.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Cell directed.

Fuck.

Perfect.

Fucking box office disaster.

Let's talk about another movie, a movie that released theatrically that I really enjoyed.

This came out a few years ago, and we haven't talked about it on the pod, but you are a voice in Puss and Boots The Last Wish.

Movie is so fun.

Thank you so much.

And you're so good in it.

Thank you.

Such a delight to hear you.

I play

a serpent sister.

Yes.

And when they hit me up to do the part, I didn't see any of the script.

It was pretty much just my scenes and i saw a serpent sister so i was like oh it must mean i'm like a snake because it's puss it boots you know i'm like

people are like animals talk so i like go in and i start doing like

and they're like why are you doing that and i was like oh i figured because i'm a serpent like i'm a snake so i should probably like and they're like oh no no you're a human in this world and i was like oh

okay

all right but it was a blast yeah it was so fun you had wait was this where you had an experience with Sam Rockwell?

Was that in this movie?

Yes.

So I didn't meet him, but the directors told me, because they were telling me like who's in the cast and stuff.

And I was like, whoa, this is so nuts.

And they said he, oh, no.

This isn't puss in boots.

My bad.

This is Troll's World Tour.

Wow.

We could edit this out.

No, I mean, it's, do we want to talk about Troll's World Tour?

Yeah, sure.

I have not seen Troll's World Tour.

I have seen it twice.

Did you see World Tour?

Nice.

I'm so sorry.

I got my cartoons mixed up.

Sam Rockwell's in World Tour.

Yeah.

And he plays a cowboy troll.

And apparently his first day of recording, he showed up in full cowboy gear

for voiceover and like did it, of course, killed.

And then afterwards, was like, oh, I guess I don't have to dress up like this to do that.

Isn't that so nice and just delightful?

I love it.

Yeah.

Sorry.

But Pussy Boots rules too.

Yeah.

I saw it in the theater and it was really wild to be like, whoa.

And it was a packed theater.

Yeah.

That rules.

Which was really cool.

I was like, oh my God.

No, our audience was really responding to it.

It's got a great energy to it.

It's funny.

And just the animation is really good.

Beautiful.

Yeah.

I was really blown away.

Antonio Bendell sort of quality to it.

Yeah.

Isn't he?

He's well loved too, isn't he?

I think people like him.

People really like him.

Yeah.

You see the movie where he gets cuck-holded?

No.

A baby girl?

No.

Oh, baby girl.

He gets fucking cucked in.

Baby girl.

I gotta watch that shit.

Let's get out of here.

It's research for brother act.

Testosterone up to 871.

Yeah, that'll happen.

While we're in movie town, right?

I know you're a horror fan.

Yeah.

There have been,

you know, we're in a modern day.

We're in the spooky season, wise.

We're in the spooky spooky season here in Croc Doe Burn Faest.

But also,

this has been a year with a lot of horror releases.

It's been a good year.

For me, like the one, and Natalie also loves this film, but like,

she like, I think it's her favorite movie of the year.

The horror movie that I think really stands out as a work of art, Mitch, I think you agree, is 28 years late.

Oh, yeah.

Just an absolute movie.

I think it's my favorite movie.

God, it was beautiful.

It was incredible.

That whole scene with

the big um goal the bone temple bone temple and with the mom yeah without without spoiling it for people who haven't seen it but it's an incredible movie it's beautiful the music's incredible it feels like almost a completely new different movie right oh i loved it i loved it so much yeah such a lovely piece of writing and just so well

yeah it was such a cool movie

and hey a lot of wieners hey that's my bone temple of the hogs in that yeah i borrow the bone temple of the alpha that thing thing is.

Yeah, dude.

It was very like, whoa, that's cool.

Let's test that guy's T-level.

I bet it's nuts.

It's through the roof.

It's a prosthetic hog, unfortunately.

Yeah, I think.

Yeah.

We kind of like we went outside and we picketed the studio after we found out.

We were really upset.

Use real wiener.

Come on, enough with this horse shit.

I like that that's just sitting in some sort of like a studio somewhere.

It's on a back lot somewhere, just hanging out.

Right.

Yes.

The hog.

The Persianic hog.

We got Oceans 11, that thing.

Yes.

Let's get the hog, dude.

Oceans 11.

We have a tram tour.

It comes out of the water.

Josh is broken.

Don't worry.

We got the hog from 28 years later.

I loved that movie.

Yeah, really careful.

Give a cheer as it comes out of our people.

The day of CSC 28 years later?

I have not.

Not yet.

Let us know when you give it a view.

It's really incredible.

Soundtracks, everything about it is so good.

It's great.

We're still in the recent aftermath of weapons coming out, which I enjoy.

A lot of fun.

Loved it.

I loved it so much.

Oh, it was so cool.

He's in charge of Resident Evil next.

That'll be cool.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

What is your, what are you like, like, like, you know, what are, are there any standouts that like, you know, you think back on the year?

Because you said it's been a good year.

Are there any like this one that that really connected with me i'm trying to like 28 years later is huge weapons but what else because it did feel like it was a really fun there was sinners there was a bring her back which i didn't see that's intense yeah is it yeah i got i like to me i like talk to me too i do i haven't seen it yet i like to talk to me too and i liked this one okay um it was one but this happens to me a lot with horror movies where i'm like i don't ever have to see that again and then a couple years i'll be like you know what i do want to watch hereditary again

I'll deal with all that.

And I left that one being like, whoa,

I don't ever have to see that again, but I'll watch it again.

I got to watch it.

You've never seen it.

Yeah, no.

No, no, no, no, not Hereditary.

What you were just talking about.

Yeah, Bring Her Back.

Bring her back.

Oh, bring her back.

I haven't seen Bring Her Back.

So Bring Her Back is the sequel.

It's the guy who may talk to me's next movie, right?

Yes.

Okay.

Yeah.

The two like YouTube dudes.

Yeah, they're like a director dude.

Yeah.

Well, we mentioned Ari Aster and, you know, not explicitly a horror movie, but it does feel like a horror movie, Eddington, which I love.

Oh, I didn't see it.

I gotta see it.

I gotta see it.

Also, a hog movie.

And I've heard it's a hog movie.

And

I don't think that bad boy's prosthetic, but I could be wrong.

There's no, you know what, after 28 years later,

you know, it just, it's, it's peak hog cinema.

There's no other hog in cinema that.

I don't know.

Oh, shit, all right.

Watch Eddington for

I'm not saying, look,

it's not like a sensual depiction.

Neither is the, you know, the fucking alpha and 28 years later.

It's a very clinical sort of display, but it is,

if it's not prosthetic,

the alpha obviously trumps it.

But again, that's a piece of

mold.

Imagine you talking about this in nursing school.

You have lots of people I could chop it up with about prosthetic hogs in the lunchroom.

I mean, I guess like clinically,

like

clinically, I saw a movie where clinically the hog was to get it.

If you think clinically in front of anything, you're a good nurse.

You're able to talk about whatever you want.

I, you know, ever since

I haven't been as good with spooky season.

A couple of years ago,

when I first got long COVID, I did think my house was haunted when I was losing my mind, which I think I told you about.

Yeah.

And it was, I drove by the murder mansion in Los Vilas.

I don't even like bringing it up anymore.

Yeah.

And then I watched a YouTube documentary on it, and they talked about how the motion sensors in their house went off.

And then the motion sensors in my bathroom went off that night over and over again.

Oh, my.

And I was going,

you may have had something.

I may.

Look, Wages knows this.

I blessed my house with holy water from Amazon.

And I, from Amazon holy water.

And thank you, Mr.

Bezos.

Thank you for blessing that.

I appreciate you sending me.

And I got a

what's it called?

The like sage thing.

Yeah, sage.

I saged the entire house.

I've said this before.

My neighbor saw me blessing the outside of my house, and I was like, oh, I've gone crazy.

It was the moment I realized I went crazy.

And then also a few years back when Kimmel pranked me with the ghost prank.

That was one of my favorite things to watch.

I'm sorry.

I was calling for him to be canceled at that point.

And no one,

nobody had my back.

Yeah.

Where were you then?

Those videos, that video is so funny.

It's a Jack Allison knocked him out of the car.

I put that out.

Incredible.

And I was texting Wags and people thought Wags was in on the joke, but you didn't even know.

I didn't know what's happening.

You were just, I was like, I was like, I hear a noise and you hear, and he was just like, it's the wind.

Don't worry about it.

Which like seems like it's, he was in on the joke, but he's like, I had no idea.

I was just being dismissive because I knew you were being insane.

Well, I wasn't being insane.

I wasn't.

That's true.

Stuff was happening to me.

But I haven't, it's harder for me to now watch.

Wow.

After I went a little bit kooky, admittedly, I knew I was going kooky.

Yeah, and I had vertigo.

There's reasons I thought I was going kooky.

And like, and then I realized I was going kooky, and I have, I'm in a much better place since then.

Good, but I haven't the joy of like, like, I would turn the lights off in my house and watch horror movies.

Yeah, and I now, if I'm alone, I'm like, I don't like doing that as much anymore.

It scared me.

Yeah,

yeah, scared straight.

I'm, I'm no longer, the spookiness is too much for me.

You're going kooky, you can't go spooky because you're going to go dookie

yes the old saying

we got we gotta make t-shirts of that

kooky spooky dookie is that spooky dookie that's that's the uh dark triad yes

the brown triad

we don't we don't need to relitigate the monkey but you are a monkey fan i loved it you're out of your mind no it's a blast i can see amelia liking the monkey that feels like an amelia movie.

I haven't seen it, but.

It's a blast.

It's wild.

It's funny.

It's weird.

I loved it.

I really didn't.

It really didn't connect with me.

And I could see, like, anytime anybody's like, I did not like it.

I understand why.

Like, I would totally get it, but I just had such a blast.

Mono and I were screaming, laughing almost the whole movie.

That's awesome.

It was so fun.

It wasn't enough.

There wasn't enough murder for me, really.

I wanted more murder.

There was so much murder.

Yeah, they had like montages of like people.

For me, it just like the volume of it became kind of, I got kind of numb to it, which I guess may be the point of it, but it just didn't.

So

yeah.

What about this?

Is a spoiler-ish.

It is.

It's a spoiler if you haven't seen it.

Plug your ears.

Plug my ears.

The lady pushing the.

She's holding one ear.

That's not plugging.

You're using one shoulder and one shoulder.

Can you show her on camera?

She's being insane.

If you move the cloth around your ear, it'll sound like a curve.

Oh, okay.

I guess you have enough hair, too, where you can kind of do some obfuscation.

What about the lady running with the baby carriage and it's on fire?

Yeah.

And she's like still running with it, screaming.

That's funny.

It's like a scary movie level funny.

Or them being like the cheerleaders being there and being like, here comes the body.

Oh, that's dope.

It made me laugh a lot.

We were sitting there pretty stone-faced, Dwagger, me, and Gabris and Stanger and

Rogers.

This was an Action Boys, Doughboys crossover viewing.

Yeah, and we're now the Monkey Boys.

Now the Monkey Boys.

The Monkey Boys.

And you all hated it.

None of us liked it.

None of us liked it.

Because I feel I've talked to every single person who went that day, and everyone's like, it sucked.

And I was like, uh-oh.

Mona and I saw it twice in like a week.

We loved it.

Wow.

I'll defend it forever.

Does hair block sound?

Amelia, does hair block sound?

Can confirm.

Okay.

Yes.

Yes.

But I, you know, I got to dive behind Adam Con over next time I hear some spoilers coming.

Spoiler bouncing off his fucking.

I did see the new conjuring, too.

I saw it as well.

I enjoyed it.

Yeah, I thought it was.

I liked it more than two and three.

The first one is one of the best.

Here's my issue with horror.

I wonder if you'll feel the same way.

CGI just doesn't vibe with horror movies.

You can't such a bummer.

It's a bummer.

You can't move.

I was just talking to, I think it was Mono about, remember when The Haunting came out and House on Haunted Hill in like 99, 2000.

And it felt like that was like kind of the beginning of like CGI

horror.

And it was just like, this is not scary enough.

No, it really takes you out of it.

Yeah.

Do you know what's a good CGI horror movie?

Deep Blue Sea.

I love Deep Blue Sea.

Sure.

They know.

You got to have a tone.

You got to have a.

Well, that's a little campier and trashier.

It's not as much trying to be scary, although there are some scares in it.

Yeah.

I love that movie.

Yeah, a lot of fun.

The alien movies always pull off CGI okay.

I didn't like the recent.

You and I didn't, neither of us.

When you responded to Romulus, you liked Dromulus?

Yeah.

Are you watching the Alien Earth?

Yeah.

Okay.

Three episodes in.

I like it a lot.

Okay, okay.

I haven't seen it.

Are you?

Oh, okay.

I like it.

Let's just say that when we were being a little catty last night, we may have brought up Alien Earth.

Oh,

okay, okay.

I used to think Alien for pound for pound was the best franchise, and then the last one lost me, and then Alien Earth isn't

into it.

Alien Earth's just not winning me over.

Okay, it just doesn't feel like, which is fine, but I'm like, why is it going to be alien?

I don't know, right?

Okay, and it's a it's a prequel, right, to

the first

alien movie, movie.

Yeah.

Okay.

The Needle Grops join it.

There's just a lot that I don't know.

Yeah, there's a lot.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And it's hard to make it.

Those movies are all expensive.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I don't know.

I would love it.

It'd be cool if aliens came down.

Wouldn't that be a fun thing to have happen in our lifetimes?

It's like we make contact with aliens live.

I think they've come.

You think so?

I think they have.

I think they've come and been like, nah.

Wow.

Or I think they live in the ocean.

Could be.

Yeah.

Ocean theory.

That's cool.

I think they've been here.

I I mean, there could be the sort of and like in the same way that we kind of anthropologically, you know, or or or, you know, try to not disturb certain cultures, there could be like a another level of like, hey, we're some society that has some technology that us is unthinkable where they're able to come in.

I mean, this is, you'll see this in Star Trek.

They'll come in like basically completely undetectable by us just to just to keep see what's what's going on.

It could be something like that.

But I like like, it would be kind of interesting for someone to come down and just be like,

hey, what's up?

You know,

I'm a new kind of guy.

Yeah.

And like, we've been watching you.

Yes.

Yeah.

For 10,000 years.

What are you guys doing?

Like, what is fucking going on?

And be like, yeah, I know, man.

I know, man.

The only ship I want to be sucked up into is the comedy mothership.

One thing I like, a trope I always like in sci-fi alien contact, like first contact sort of movies, or of like an alien comes down is just like, you humans are an interesting species that's good capable of such love and such hatred yes i think it's always kind of fun like the idea that like those things are unique to us yes yeah where they're so intelligent that they're like we would never even imagine hatred what is war yes yeah that's very i like that yeah like the mr burns alien level sort of right right right yeah

oh yeah he's very cute oh very cute i like the old thing of the you know the guy like getting probed and limping.

I think that's kind of fun.

Oh, it is fun.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Like, do you believe when people, these stories of abduction and stuff?

I mean, no, I think it's just sort of, I, to me, I think whatever

kind of hallucinatory dreams we have or, or just sort of like, like, weird sort of spiritual subconscious experiences, we just

apply the template of whatever our current culture is.

I think it's the same way that like back in the day, people would be like, oh, I was visited by an angel or something like that.

Now that there's, there's UAPs or whatever, people are like, oh, I was visited by an alien.

I think that's probably what's happening, but also, but who fucking knows?

I don't know.

I'm just speculating.

I brought up the Chargers game to say Wags and I were at the Chargers game.

That's right.

And he was looking out and he said,

there was a, you're bringing this moment up.

This was

They were showing a bunch of crowd shots.

And we're just, so we're just seeing hundreds, thousands of people on the jumbo junk.

And he's like, you ever go to a stadium like this and just think about how insignificant you are?

Like he said to me at the

crowds do that to me, too.

Right, because you look at it, you're just like, oh, each of these people has their own internal reality.

There's a word for this where the feeling or the realization that everyone around you has a life as complicated and vivid as your own, and the reality that every single person you pass has that same thing.

And it just like blocks your mind.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think about that stadium cheering for me, baby.

These cheers are for me for cheering for them.

Yeah.

I do think a lot of times like, I wonder how many people have murdered somebody here.

I was just in the airport recently and it was like pretty packed and I was like, I think that being in the studio would be cooking my girl.

How many people?

But yeah, we're like,

how many people here like have murdered someone and gotten away with it?

I could, I, I, like, I couldn't live with myself.

I think if I, like, if I killed someone, I think I'd just like think about that all the time.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I don't know.

How do you, you, how would you endure?

I don't know.

I guess if you're, if you're a psychopath,

it does.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Of course.

I fucking got away with it.

I'm glad I did it.

You know, or you just be sad thinking about it when it happened.

You know, you're like, oh, God, I shouldn't have done that.

I should have killed that guy.

I should have killed that guy.

I'm sure he scratched my car, but

overreaction.

We just started watching a

true crime documentary called Mr.

and Mrs.

Murder.

Whoa.

On Hooli.

I like that.

I like the name.

Yeah.

Yeah.

About a dude who goes missing in Florida on a lake that has a lot of alligators in it.

Wow.

Gators.

You just started it?

Yeah.

Sorry.

Uh-oh.

Computer.

No, no, no.

Nothing.

What the hell was that?

Oh, no.

What happened?

What got kicked out of it?

No, it's just my, my, my, yeah, there's like a little Cody

with a clipboard that my.

Don't worry about it.

Seems like you were getting nervous when we were talking about killing people.

Uh-oh.

Yeah.

Well, you seem to light up

when Betsy mentioned gators.

Is that what it was?

Yeah.

Okay.

Gators.

Are you a big gatorhead?

I mean, it's not particularly, but you know, it's thematically crocodilized.

You know, we're talking crocodiles.

We're talking crocodiles, not alligators, but they are adjacent to the kind of gators they got down in Del Bayou.

We just watched Waterboy.

Oh, man.

Waterboy's a fun head.

It's so fun.

I hadn't seen it in years.

Yeah.

Probably like 15 years or something.

And it's so great.

I'm like, why haven't I been watching this over and over?

Like some of his other movies.

It's so good.

I like his dad that comes at the end on the tractor.

It's good.

Or are they driving a tractor?

Is that what happens?

They drive

a tractor after they get married.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's good.

It's great.

It's a good movie.

We love that.

We love the Sandman.

Who you've worked with.

You've worked in The Sandman.

Yeah.

Isn't that nuts?

That's fucking crazy.

Yeah.

It's so crazy oh it blows my mind you get to do so much cool stuff and it's great because you're so you're so talented i love that you can see i can't see

every day i'm like whoa dude

and i live in like east hollywood and on my street you can see the hollywood sign so i'll be like driving home and be like whoa dude

every single day i'm just like i can't believe this man

when i go up gower i like looking at that old hollywood she's a beaut wages she's a beautiful sign.

She's a beautiful.

Bring back,

you know, bring back the love of Hollywood.

Sign should say Hollyweird, as far as I'm concerned.

Thank you.

I did mushrooms up at the Hollywood sign a long time ago.

Did you really?

I've never done it.

I've thought about doing it.

Mushrooms?

Yeah.

Well, I've told you some of this.

Remember,

it was with Harris.

He just passed away.

And he broke out glow sticks.

He would like to break a new glow stick out everywhere.

And then he told me he would show me the funniest thing I've ever seen.

And it was the funniest thing I'd I'd ever seen.

Yeah.

But it was a blast.

It was a good time.

So fun.

It was a real Hollywood.

That does feel so like, whoa, that's so great.

I want to do that.

This is now like 15 years ago.

Yeah.

But it was a blast.

I want to do that.

It's coming back.

Hollywood.

Yeah, let's get the fuck out of here.

Take some mushrooms.

I think you're in the perfect state to take anything like that.

It might help.

You never know.

I don't fucking know.

Who knows?

New neural pathways.

It's true.

Yeah.

isn't that what they do?

Yeah.

I think so.

Yeah.

I'm open to it.

Yeah.

Try anything at this point.

Let's drug you up one way or the other.

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Do it.

What is your typical breakfast?

Are you a breakfast person?

I am.

And I usually do, I get tortillas and then I'll do

jalapenos,

some onions,

and then cheese.

I'm on a big white American cheese cake.

Hell yeah.

Quality cheese.

And then I'll do, I'll put ham, like just deli meat ham, fold it up like a quesadilla, pop it in the toaster oven, open it up, put avocado on it and Taco Bell hot sauce.

Okay.

And then I usually, for a side, we'll do like tomato.

So this is, this isn't like a traditional breakfast, but it feels like you're just getting a little bit of a break.

me like, oh, I have this, and I'll.

Wait, there's no eggs, no eggs, no eggs.

Wow, I'm not, I'm, I have a bunch of friends where they're like, it's not breakfast unless there's eggs, right?

But I, I'm more European, I guess.

Meats and cheese.

It honestly sounds a little like a Colorado-y, honestly, in a way.

Kind of, I don't know.

Yeah, I don't want to know.

I don't know, I'm fine.

Oh, no,

yeah, that's what I've been doing for the last couple of years.

Wow, yeah.

Are you do you do coffee in the morning?

Do you caffeinate?

No, coffee hurts my tummy, but I will drink Red Bull

after like 10.

Okay, 11.

All right.

You know what I've been doing for breakfast the last couple of weeks?

What's that?

Three mambas.

Three mambas.

Three mambas.

That's not particularly nutritious.

I know.

Ladies and gentlemen, this is mamba number three.

One, two, three.

That's it.

Cuts the sun off.

It's just you and your kids.

Three mambas.

I like used to be able to go like wake up and not have to have food for like a couple till like lunch pretty much.

Right.

But nowadays, I like, I will feel terrible if I don't get food at me.

You know?

What about you guys?

No, I like I've tried intermittent fasting.

Does not work for me.

I'm so lightheaded.

I'm just a person who like I wake up and I'm hungry.

Yes.

And so I will have like my breakfast vacillates.

It changes, you know,

as my, as I age.

But right now, what I'm doing is I'll usually either do a bowl of oatmeal with like a cut-up nana in there, and then I'll just kind of Peter North some real maple syrup on top of it.

And like, like, that's like a very solid, like, you know, breakfast, a little bit of dietary fiber, not much protein, though.

So if I need a little bit more protein, like, like, say, I'm going to the gym or something like that, I will have

maybe like some cottage cheese and like some fresh berries or something.

But I've been going a little lighter with breakfast than I used to.

I used to always have like eggs and like, you know, like a side greens and maybe a piece of toast or something like that.

Now I just have like a little bit smaller scale, but I still need to get something in my body.

And I, I, like, I am someone who absolutely needs coffee.

Like, I'm so, I've just be, I obviously don't need it biologically, but I've, I've adapted to expecting it.

So like, I just have black coffee first thing in the morning.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You're a coffee.

You're a regular Linda Richmond.

You are.

I'm a Java Joe.

Yeah, you are.

You are.

I'm Linda Richmond.

That's good.

That's good.

Coffee Dog.

Deus is completely baffled by what we're talking about.

Talking about.

You're doing that voice was funny, though.

Nice.

Earlier, we were talking about the first.

I was like, did you play Nintendo?

And I meant the Nintendo Entertainment System.

The NES, the Family Company.

And

you guys never played the Nintendo Reels.

Yeah, I mean, that was a product of the age.

I know, but I'm just crazy to me.

I'm like, oh, yeah, of course.

It's like the Atari was to me, even though I did play the Atari.

It's weird to be of the age where your references are dusty,

where the dominant, the dominant culture, you know, like every, what's what's zeitgeisty is people who are younger than you.

And like what you're talking about seems like, I don't know, from a different generation because it is.

That was a thing that you don't like, you're growing up and then you're a young adult and you don't expect to ever be in that slot, but of course you age in.

That's just what happens.

Yep.

Yeah.

My breakfast consists of an Irma kiss and a Wally kiss.

Yep.

Yep.

Probably better for you than the mamas.

Yeah.

Do you ever do a smoothie?

No, I'm not a big smoothie head.

I will do a smoothie on rare occasion.

And the one, you know, like when we've gotten them for the podcast, I enjoy them.

But yeah, I'm not much of a smoothie guy either.

And for me, like making them at home is always like such a pain in the ass.

Like I hate cleaning a blender.

Yes, it seems like so much work.

Yeah.

I did it for a while.

It was a lot of work.

I'm going to, you know, I'm going to do, I'm going to do those yogurt drinks because I got a lot of yogurt intake.

Yeah.

Gilly likes those.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yes.

Yeah.

I'm going to do that.

I know that

we have a GERT chat

where we exchange with Dunk Town.

With Dunk Down and we exchange pictures of cottage cheese, yogurt, oatmeal.

I've really fallen off of it, but I looked at it today

and

there was, I think it was a guy that had the

Trader Joe's

yogurt drinks.

Yeah.

Okay.

And I think I'm going to get get some of those.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But I don't, I don't usually, I'm not really a breakfast guy.

I've been trying to get my sleep schedule back in

my sleep.

That's so fucking tough.

One of the new meds I'm on is

giving me insomnia.

Wags is my problem too.

Yeah, I mean like four to five hours a night.

And so that's a problem.

I took an ambient this week.

And

not that I am pushing for people to take ambien, but it was sad that it worked so well for me and like got me on track.

And I am like, I think I need, because I was doing ZQuil for a long time, but I, like you, Wags, I've taken Lexapro and I'm a little, I'm a little wired at night.

I can't, I can't, uh, I can't get myself to sleep.

And I'm on, I guess, what we're just closing.

I'm the medicine I'm on now is the medication I'm on now is well, well butrin, which is like technically a stimulant.

So it makes me like a little hard to fall asleep.

And then I just sleep in like 90-minute chunks, which is a bummer.

I fall asleep a little bit, wake up

for a little bit.

Yeah,

you know.

Oh, I'm sorry.

Yeah, thanks for saying that.

That sucks.

Yeah.

You actually got anatomy a trank, your ass.

I did for

Natalie, there's a new update to the Blue Prince.

Dunk.

She just uses it all the time.

I'm done with that.

I know you don't like the Blue Prince.

I know I was one that I picked.

We had the.

No, I admire the effort.

That is a game.

But yeah, Blue Prince, I got exhausted.

What's the other ones that you like?

Balder's game.

There's a new Baldur's gate.

There you go.

The

Blueprints thing was fine.

I didn't need to note it.

I was being pedantic because

didn't love that game ultimately.

Blueprints is is a game that it's a really incredible design.

And I understand people who love this game.

Yeah.

People get mad at me for saying I didn't connect with it.

I'm, I, I admire what the dev did.

It's, it's basically a game where you're going through a mansion and as you go, uh, the mansion continues, mansion builds.

Okay.

So it's kind of like, if you're familiar with that.

That is like everyday life for me.

Going through mansions and stuff like that.

You're exploring this weird, creepy, abandoned house.

Each time you get to a new room,

there's one of like three possible rooms that it could be.

And so it's randomized every time.

And so, like, the way that it actually works at all is like really, really impressive.

The thing is, it's just got like these, the, you know, these really inscrutable puzzles, which I like, but just are just such a time sink.

And so much of it is relying on randomness because of how it's generated that there can be times when like you feel like you do everything right and you just got to like, oh, I guess got to do this again.

It just gets a little bit.

that would drive me nuts.

But it is a really impressive game, and some people really love it.

Okay.

I just got a PlayStation 5.

Yeah.

And I've been playing Astrobot.

Astrobot is a delight.

Astrobot is

one of the most fun games I've ever played.

It's so bad.

Yeah.

The tree level, that makes sense.

That music is so good.

Climb up me.

Like, it's so good.

It's blowing my mind.

I'm, I'm enjoying it a lot.

Darren said better than Donkey Kong Bonanza.

I don't think that's a crazy take.

Oh, I haven't played.

It's like Astrobot and and Odyssey are like kind of the two big

3D platformers of recent years that are Odyssey is the favorite.

Yeah, Odyssey is my favorite, but I love Adrobot.

I've never played Odyssey.

And I think I'm going to, because somebody recommended, they're like, if you enjoy Astrobot, play Odyssey.

You'll love Odyssey Rules.

I shall.

You gotta.

You gotta play it.

Should we talk about soups?

Yeah.

I mean, like, just in general.

Also, have you ever seen the movie Alligator or Crocodile?

Alligator.

Yes.

that's the 70s

yeah 80s one 80s 70 i don't know yeah i feel like kind of going off of jaws when that there's that big movement of like let's get alligators let's get grizzly bears what else can be pretty much jaws but on and somewhere else yes where doesn't he like eat a bus oh i think he does eat a bus yeah it's pretty fun yeah i i i like all the i like all the jaws knockoff movies they're really fun yeah yeah i i uh you know what i love which i maybe this month we watch it, Crawl.

Did you ever see it?

I love crawl.

Crawl is good as hell.

Watch.

It is so good.

I'll totally watch Crawl for the pod.

Yeah.

It's so, it feels like, and this, I mean, this in the best way, a 90s action thriller.

Doesn't it kind of like that's what vibes it gave me.

I loved it.

Crawl already saw it on my neighbor's baby monitor.

What the fuck are you doing?

Watching your baby's

your neighbor's baby monitor.

Just keep it an eye on what's going on in there.

Calling a fucking direc TV asking for the fucking baby monitor channel.

Let's talk soups.

Actually, I guess we should mention, like, have you ever eaten Gator while we're talking about that?

Oh, I have had fried

alligator.

Fried alligator.

Yeah.

We had alligator cheesecake and gnarly.

That's right.

How did that work?

I mean, it's a dish of this savory,

warm cheesecake.

Jacqui Moe's.

It was a play.

This was a recommendation by a son of the South, a Van Roby Show, whose family's from Louisiana.

And me and Natalie and Mitch went to that restaurant, had a lovely time.

And was it?

It was great.

It was great.

We were sitting next to Foghorn Leghorn.

Yeah.

Absolute delight.

Class act.

She was a class act.

How dare you serve this shit?

Oh, we did.

I will say that I asked for a picture and he said, I'll say, I'll say, I'm on cameo.

I was like, all right, dude.

Pay your fucking $40.

Let's talk soup.

I'm so sorry to hear about your son's passing.

Jeez, this guy does anything, huh?

Oh, my God.

What are your general soup preferences?

Are you a soup fan?

I am a big soup fan.

I'm trying to think of if I have preferences.

I do love a soup with like a noodle and chunks.

Sure.

I like it feeling very like, yes, here we go.

Just like a classic chicken noodle soup.

Very satisfying to you.

Chicken noodle.

Yeah.

Do you like it?

You do a chowder?

I do like a chowder.

I'm a soup behind a chowder.

Yeah, sure.

And like a bisque.

Yes, sir.

Like a bisque.

Yeah.

I like, yeah, soup's so good.

Seafood and soups just always kind of work for me.

Yes, even when I was a kid when I did not like seafood seafood one bit, clam chowder, I was like, Yeah,

I like clams, but I like clam chowder.

Yeah, I don't like like even now, maybe if they're fried, I'll eat clams, but usually I'm like, no, no, no, no, but if there's a chowder, I'm like, Yeah, dude, give it to me.

I love it.

Noodle, noodle and chunks is a good name for like kids and a kid, like

members of the goonies.

I mean, chunks, chunk is a member of the goonies, yeah.

I think there might be a noodles.

Is there noodles?

Not in goonies, but like maybe hook or something.

Oh, is there a noodle?

Noodle and chunks is a great one.

Noodles, I mean, brother act,

sister noodles, and sister chunks.

There's sister noodle, sister chunks, and sister trash.

What kind of convent is there?

All nuns report for the bikini competition.

The wet habit contest.

we're making this damn movie.

We got a fucking hit.

We got GoFundMe.

Yeah, we got a GoFundMe.

Yeah, yeah.

Look for the GoFundMe.

We know a lot of you gave already to Casey's movie, but we're hoping to also crowdfund

Brother Axe.

So please.

Should we

have a Go Nun Me?

It should be a Go Nun Me.

Yeah.

Yes.

Oh, Katie Perry can try to buy the convent from us.

She did that in real life.

She's the bad guy.

I just learned one of the nuns died during the hearing of that or something.

She was.

She was like

at a hearing and then had a heart attack or something.

And I believe Katie Perry says, put me on the record.

Good.

Oh, my God.

Don't hold me to that.

I'm not sure if that's right, but I think I do remember hearing that.

Geez.

I hope that's not true.

It's not a particularly classy response.

This was years ago, but yes, she did really die.

Oh, it was years ago.

Yeah, so it's good.

So it's actually good that I made the joke about the nun dying

uh that that yeah brought it up that's wild yeah it's a wild story and that's that nunnery is or or or convent is uh is next door to uh the the um

la bianca murder house is it i don't think i knew that

i like i like walking in that area i didn't know it was oh

it's right next door to the uh la bianca murder house spooky

i gotta fire up shutter

this is i It's the time of year to get my Shudder rolling.

I stay subscribed to I think one of the good streamers.

I love Shudder a lot.

Yeah.

The new It show is coming out.

Are you gonna watch it?

Oh, I'll watch that.

I will watch that.

I'm curious.

I'm very curious to see what it's gonna be like.

We started Twisted Monthal, which was a couple months ago.

And we watched the finale at

your home.

Yes, that was so much fun.

It was a blast.

We had a little bit of a cohabitate with Gilly.

Yes.

Yeah.

Who wrote for Twisted Metal Twisted Metal and was a guest on Twisted Monthal.

Yes.

It was a blast.

We watched it over there.

We had a great time.

When we were in Toronto and we worked at a school, there was a bunch.

They shot up there.

So there was a bunch of penny-wise stuff on the chalkboard and stuff like that.

Cool.

That is cool.

That's cool.

Awesome.

Yeah, it's creepy.

Oh, that's very cool.

I'm excited for it.

I'm just curious to see how they're going to be.

I didn't love the remake movies, but I am excited for the show.

Yeah.

What I like about Shudder and those kind of more niche streaming services and, you know, know, like something like Mubi 2, which is, you know,

has a different sort of vibe to it.

Is you just want some curation, you know what I mean?

Because, like, so many, you turn on these, these kind of catch-all services, and it's just like, you're just giving me so much shit.

I have, I'm just going to get analysis paralysis.

I'm just overwhelmed by all this shit.

And also, like, you're trying to

placate me with the algorithm.

So, you're just assuming that just because I watched one thing, that I'm going to watch the exact same fucking thing.

It's like if I like, you know, like, hey, I like this, you know, I like this portrait.

I like Blue Boy at the Huntington Library.

I think this is a beer.

And then you're only going to show me the exact same painting over and over again.

Just like, give me, like, give, like, I want some writing.

But you look at something like Shudder and Movie, it's like, oh, someone who loves film and loves whatever, you know, particular approach the streaming service has is giving me a bunch of different options that I can choose from.

Yeah.

And sometimes it'll be like, oh, this is a pick.

All right.

Let me just check this out.

And I'll be like, oh, that's cool.

That's interesting.

I wouldn't have seen this otherwise.

Yeah.

I love Shudder so much.

Yeah.

And Criterion channel-wise, though.

Channel is great.

Yes.

I love all the Criterion playlists.

Yeah.

There's actually a nun playlist on Criterion right now.

I'm pretty sure.

We gotta watch it.

Wait, do I have Criterion on my iPad?

I think I do.

Oh, yes.

Nunsploitation is what we're doing.

Yeah, nunsploitation.

It's the truth.

That's what it's called.

Yeah.

Like 70s and 60s and stuff.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, let's see what's cool.

The only blue boy I care about is Jake Sully, Wages.

Avatar 3 is coming out.

Very excited.

You haven't seen Avatar 2.

Or one.

I'm with you guys.

I'm not seeing them.

I'm not doing this both.

Oh, Betsy.

You haven't seen them?

No, I don't want to.

Oh, man, they're fun.

They're so boring.

They're fun.

I love the Avatar movie.

Avatar Spear kicks.

I think they're great.

I have it in 3D for the projector that we have, so you and Amelia can come over and we'll put our little

watch.

Hey, I got news for you.

It's coming back into theaters this month.

That's probably better.

This month.

Oh, really?

Hey, baby, we gotta go.

I'll take all of you on Wager.

Would I like

happily treat happily treat us to a team trip, plus Betsy, to go see the Avatars?

And Jono Wilson needs to see it.

I told you that on the set of Twisted Metal, I told the showrunner to pretend to fire Jono because he hadn't seen Avatar, and he did it.

And Jono thought it was real.

And so it just backfired horribly.

That's a tough bit to do.

Yeah,

it was a bad, it was bad.

It was a bad.

I made a mistake.

John I was was like, wait, what?

Really?

And I was like, maybe he was acting me, son of a bitch.

Probably was.

Now you're getting mad.

You made someone else feel bad.

Fucking asshole.

Johnny, you're coming.

You're coming to Avatar as well.

We're going to get everyone who hasn't seen it to the theater.

Yeah.

The playlist is indeed called Nunsploitation on Criterion.

And the films are The Devils to the Devil, a Daughter, Ms.

45, Alucarda, Behind Convent Walls, Killer Nun, Dark Habits.

Great title.

Good.

Benedetta, and Hoxen.

And also, I see Brother Act.

Oh my God, it's out.

Brother Act's out.

Congratulations.

Hey, everybody, check it out on Criteria Channel.

Who the hell was starring in it?

You are.

Oh, shit.

And you go full frontal.

That's the thumbnail.

Do you want to have it bottomless?

Sisters, I have something to confess.

I pull it up and they're like, what's the issue?

Wait, what?

Hold on a second.

Come on.

50.

I swear fair.

I swear fair.

Where does, okay, we're talking ramen today.

Where does ramen rank in your soup hierarchy?

It's high up there.

It's pretty high.

And for me, it's always a...

a big treat.

You know, it's not one that I can eat all the time or that I want to eat all the time because I want it to be kind of like this decadent, like,

I'm getting ramen and I'm going to sleep.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I totally get that.

You know, like, I really, really like it.

What, where does it, how about?

Put me on the toilet.

I mean, let me eat that bad boy on the toilet, wages, the ramen express right through my body.

Cause I, that, it, for me, is that.

It's fat.

It's pork.

Sure.

It's, the broth is mostly fat.

Yeah.

And I, I'm getting the rumblies already.

Yeah, especially get that tonkotsu broth, that, you know, that pork-based broth.

How about ramen versus soup?

This is one of these eternal debates.

Hold on.

I'm sorry.

Hold on.

Mitch, Mitch, I'll take that back.

I'll take that back.

It's not what I meant to say.

Misspoke.

Ramen versus Pho.

Okay.

This is the actual binary one.

Versus chowder versus soup is normal.

Ramen versus pho.

Okay.

I'm a pho man.

I love pho.

I do love pho, but I get ramen more.

Yeah, sure.

I can see that.

Yeah.

Certainly in L.A.

there's more, there's better option, like ramen options in LA proper than there are pho options.

You'd go down to Orange County, there's a lot of great pho.

I also usually, if I go

get

Vietnamese, I usually get a bonh mi.

Yeah, sure.

I love bonhi so much that I'll even go with being like, I'm gonna get pho.

And then I'm like, I need a bonhi.

Bonhi.

Dude, bonhi's don't fuck you up either in the same way.

Have you been to that famous,

that one famous in Chinatown?

I think so.

There's a famous Bon Me.

I'm going to look it up once.

Because Gilly and I went to one in Chinatown,

kind of in the back of a convenience store.

Okay.

And it was awesome.

Yeah.

And like the sandwiches are cheap and they are so good.

Yeah.

I got to, I need to ask her.

I'm sure

Natalie has been there and told me about it and I can't pull it right now.

And then she's going to be like, how like we talked about.

Sorry.

We've got it and we love it.

Yeah, it's awesome.

I'm looking at it.

I'm looking.

I'm looking up the plate.

I can't.

I'm not going to be able to.

Vietnamese food, obviously, more than banh mi and pho.

There's, there's, there's a whole

wide array of so many wonderful dishes, but like, I, you know, that, that is, like, I think the big two from an American palate.

Yeah.

Both ramen and pho, I had never had until moving to L.A.

Wow, how about you?

I had like instant ramen, of course, you know, but um,

I, in Colorado, it was just same here.

I had never

real life ramen, like real, real deal ramen.

Yeah, real deal ramen was just unheard of.

And that's the thing that's happened in our lifetime that we've seen ramen like become like a, you know, ramen restaurants become a destination and become a thing that is, you know, present not just in certain neighborhoods, but throughout the country.

Like

Silver Lake Ramen itself, which was founded on Sunset Boulevard not far from from Headgum, has locations now in Arizona, Georgia, Nevada, North Carolina, Texas, and Washington.

I went to the one in Atlanta.

Did you really?

Yeah, I was just like looking for somewhere to eat.

I was like, Silver Lake Ramen.

Yeah, why the fuck?

Is that what I think it is?

And then I walked to it.

I was like, it is.

And I got, and it was great.

It's kind of wild that a place that's named after like a specific neighborhood has just become a national brand.

And so good.

It's so good.

The Bon Me place, Miyung.

Miyung, it's spelled M-Y-D-U-N-G.

I think so.

That's one of the big famous ones.

I see.

I think that's.

Yeah.

We should all go.

I would love to go.

Awesome.

Yeah.

It was really good.

I haven't had a Bon Me in years.

I would love to have a Bon Me.

There's so many.

That's, you know, there's so many good, and they're all.

But you know what?

The Wags,

the One Shot Stop Place is coming back.

The Bakery.

What's it called?

You got to be more specific than that.

I have no clue.

I'm sorry.

Pantry Cafe.

Oh, okay.

Is coming back.

Pantry Cafe is coming back.

This was a restaurant.

This is an institution in downtown Los Angeles.

At a point, it was owned by the former mayor, Richard Reardon.

It used to be pre-pandemic, a place that was open 24 hours in cash only.

I believe the longtime wait staff is Union, which was part of the reason new ownership wanted to close it, but it does seem like it's finally reopening.

It is one of those things that's just like,

there's a few of these that in recent years have been like these, these beloved LA restaurants that are just like Kohl's is another one.

Kohl's, I think maybe is also getting a stay of execution.

The Norms was going to turn into a fucking, you know, the original Norms was going to turn into a raising canes.

They're either going to turn into a very like generic chain restaurant or the whole,

you know,

restaurant itself was going to be bulldozed and it's going to be turned into

5 over 1 condos with, you know, like a

yoga studio on the ground floor.

But

it is nice that the Pantry Cafe is going to persist.

It's going to stick with it.

This says that the new owner is also going to rehire the old staff and recognize their unions.

That's so nice.

How about that?

That's awesome.

Well, go.

Anyone who's in LA, go, go.

It says this is going to reopen New Year's Eve 2026.

We got some time.

Oh, wow.

Shit, New Year's Eve in 2026.

Wait, really?

Like a full year?

That's what this says.

That's wow.

I wonder if they mean New Year's Eve going into 2026.

Maybe, right?

Yeah.

Yeah, because a year, that just makes me feel like it won't ever open.

Is New Year's Eve 2026 December 31st, 2025, or is it December 31st, 2026?

Like when you hear that, what do you think?

I think December 31st, 2025.

That's what I think, too.

Shit, that must be what that is.

But it could be wrong.

Yeah, I don't know.

I'll find out.

It seems weird to announce that specific date if it is

the 31st and the 1st.

I don't look at the calendar.

I'm just not looking at it.

Why?

Because it's too confusing for me.

I'm just not going to look.

I don't even open the app.

Mitch,

where's ramen in your soup hierarchy?

Because we're going to talk about some ramen places.

Soup hierarchy.

Yeah.

Hmm.

Yeah.

The top.

Oh, the top.

Favorite soup?

No.

I love a clam chowder.

Oh, yeah.

So it's like maybe eight, like clam chowders may be in your S tier, and then you put like the ramen maybe in the A tier.

Is that what you're thinking?

Yeah.

Okay.

Look, chicken noodle soup is good, but like it's so, it's just a thing that we're so used to that it's not in my like

special, special.

Yeah.

And I've become more of a tomato soup person.

I love the tomato soup.

Do you ever eat tomato soup?

Chicken noodle soup when you're not sick?

It's like something I really only eat when I'm sick, and I feel like that's what I associate it with.

It's a great question.

And same with matzo ball soup, and I like matzo ball soup, but I usually only get it.

Yeah, but usually it is kind of like only when I'm sick.

I used to have chicken noodle soup regularly as a kid.

As an adult, yeah, I think it's a thing like, oh, I'm feeling under the weather.

That's when I lost it out.

That's interesting.

Why the fuck is that?

I don't know.

I think that's what I think of chicken noodle soup as like its own thing because of that, I think.

Meals, where do you stand?

I only eat chicken noodle soup if I don't have dinner.

Like if I, if I, it's like bottom of the barrel.

What's in my pantry?

Let me see what I have.

Chicken noodle soup.

I'll dig into this.

But I think S-tier for me, clam chowder.

Yeah.

For sure.

Yeah.

Also, chowder.

Not going to say no to an Italian wedding soup.

Whoa.

What about a minestrone?

And a minestrone.

Okay.

I've been on a big French onion soup.

That's a fun soup.

French onion soup to me is S-tier as well.

Yeah, it's a S-tier.

I mean, it's a lot of cheese.

It's so much cheese.

It's a cheese soup.

I will also say French onion soup can fall apart in the execution.

I've had some French onion soup, so I was like, this is a fucking debacle.

Yes.

Like, this is like, they just, they just fuck something up about this.

The cheese is too gummy or whatever.

I'm not getting good bites in here.

Yeah.

I'm able to use my teeth to scrape the cheese off of the spoon.

I feel like I'm just like, that can be fun sometimes.

It can be fun, but sometimes it's like, this is just like the mixture of components is not really lining up.

Yeah.

That's fair.

I get it.

Yeah.

Higher degree of difficulty.

I was saying, I said, rank the soups one time, and I said, pho, ramen,

chowder, and soup.

And everyone got mad at me because

fa and ramen are soups, but you got what I meant.

It's like all the other stupid soups.

No, we didn't.

That's the issue.

Look, I'm going to make it clear, and then I want you to rank.

Okay.

Tomato soup, Italian wedding soup,

minestrone soup, chicken noodle soup.

That's one category under the soup category.

Chowders are all chowders.

You know, chowders.

I don't have to fucking explain chowders to you.

Fa, that type of that style of a fa soup is, which is, you know, it's different from the soups, the other soups, like boring Americanized soups, I guess is what I'm saying.

And then ramens.

If you had to rank those against each other.

I mean,

it's just like, it's so tough because you're talking about like such a, such broad, such a broad category and then such narrow like subcategories, you know?

It's fun.

I'm having fun.

It's fun.

I don't know, Mitch.

Because also you've got soups that are excluded by this.

Like, a Tom Yum is just like not in the.

I'm just thinking of a Tom Yum.

You know, that's just not in the calculus here.

All right, it's in now.

What's Tom Yum?

It's like a separate, like, Thai soups is like a separate category?

Yeah.

Okay, so we got, now we got ramen, pho, Thai soups, chowder, and soup.

Yes.

Tom Ka.

I love Tom Ka.

Tom Ka, yeah, maybe

Thai for first with clam chowder.

I love a Tom Ka.

You have to make it all real.

Just want you to rank with fucking soups.

Is chili in the conversation.

Chili doesn't get to enter the soup category.

Chili is not a soup.

Can we make kind of a stew as well?

That's like

his own thing.

Is chili a soup?

Is stew a soup?

Stew is a soup.

Stew is a soup.

Do you think chili is a soup?

If you put enough water in it, I think.

Okay.

If you put enough water in your chili,

chili is not a soup.

What is it?

It's chili.

It's chili.

Chili.

It's just chili.

It's its own thing.

According to the internet, stews are not soups.

Okay.

They're technically different.

But is this according to the amount of liquid in them?

But is this the Google AI that you're trusting?

Okay.

It is.

But also the soup subreddit, it seems to feel the same way.

Got it, got it.

Rachel Ray would make a stoop.

An in-between of a stew and a soup.

Rachel Ray's invented language was a lot of fun back in the day.

We would play drinking games to it in college.

EVOO.

Yep.

Anytime she said EVOO or like, yeah, just we would

pre-game to Rachel Ray.

Extra virgin olive oil.

Oh.

A.K.A.

Mitch olive oil.

I'm not extra virgin.

How could you be extra virgin?

You tell me.

You become a nun.

Are nuns virgins?

They don't consider.

No, I don't think they can.

No, you, or I mean, but you could have fucked up.

You fucked.

Could you have fucked and then you take the oath?

I believe so.

All right, interesting.

I think so.

Get out of your sister.

I think so.

I don't know.

Watch I become a nun.

Wouldn't that be wild?

Do you hear Betsy lives in a convent now?

And it's just like that, that convent is just like there's like music blaring from her.

You're like, she's having fun up there.

Spend the first 60 years of your life just getting your back blown out at every opportunity

and then join a convent.

I'm ready.

I'm ready to marry God.

That is so funny.

We'll add this to Brother X.

This is absolutely sister trash.

That's sister trash.

Mitch, I will entertain your exercise.

Wow.

And I think...

This is tough now.

I think I would put,

I think because there are just so many

possibilities within it, I think I would put soup number one.

Wow.

I just think they're, like, I think within that kind of thing.

I actually don't even think I would.

There's a lot of good.

There's just a lot of good.

But I'm just like thinking about all the stuff that's in there.

And are we saying bisques are under chowders?

Yeah, sure.

Yeah.

Okay.

Oh.

I think I might say soup, pho,

chowder, ramen, but I do, I still like ramen.

It's funny that ramen is maybe like, this is the most delicious of all of them, but then it will go lower my ranking just for stomach in the milk I have it.

It's very heavy.

Yeah, it's it's yeah, it feels very much like, okay, I'm dedicating a night to ramen.

What are you putting in your clam chowder?

Are you going Tabasco sauce?

Yeah.

I'm a bit of a heat seeker, so I'll just, I'll, I'll fucking dump some

Tabasco in there.

Yeah.

Some black pepper, and then I'll throw some oyster crackers.

Yep.

Yes.

Yeah.

Yum.

Bread bowls.

How are we with bread bowls?

I like a a bread bowl i like a bread bowl i don't finish a bread bowl yeah but i like to have some of it yeah and i like the the really soaked parts yes me too like the taco salad that comes in the big shells like

i don't eat all of the shell but man it's good i like that i have it yeah yeah we would our society would be much better if all of our plates and utensils were edible we could eat them all we could eat them all can i say can say one thing i do in terms of of plussing up soups I will always take a bite first as it comes.

So like, like I get this, like, oh, I get the showder.

I'll take a a bite of this as it is.

Okay, and then I'm gonna like go just to see what, like, oh, let's see what this is.

Yeah, how much tobasco do you need?

Exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, have you ever been like, I don't need to put anything in this?

Sometimes you go to like a really nice, like, fish house, and you have a little bite.

You're like, I'll just take this as it comes.

This is good.

You know, maybe you've got some crackers or something, go drizzle them in there, but like, I don't need to make this, this doesn't need much at all.

I'm full, but my mouth is watering.

This sounds

so, I love talking about food.

I went to um Joe Beef in Montreal, oh, wow, which is just an excellent restaurant.

If you're ever in Montreal, go to Joe Beef.

Joe Beef.

And

it was on Anthony Bourdain's No Reservation.

Right.

And I think like Jess Jordan was like, you got to go to Joe Beef.

So I went and I've been a bunch now.

And they gave me this like squash

bisque.

inside of a squash.

Wow.

And at the bottom of it was like truffle.

And they're like, you have to eat a little bit, and then you have to dig around and get the truffle.

It was so good, it sounds fucking awesome.

It was so good.

I'm not even the biggest truffle guy, but in certain contexts, like I almost truffle today, I almost did too, and then I was a little like that.

Might destroy the toilet.

There was kale, that's usually what I get where I'm like, Yep, yeah, the kale will hurt me.

The kale is gonna hurt me no matter what.

The kale will really get me, dude.

Yeah, that's that's what I was afraid of.

I was, but I was interested,

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It's croc dough burned fast and we're talking Silver Lake Ramen.

The, you know,

we've talked about this before with Sierra Cato, but the, there are

one of the founders grew up in Japan.

This is a place you hear Silver Lake Ramen, you're like, oh, there's going to be some gentrified ramen.

But it is a place where

the two people who are behind it, Chef Jatayk and Chef Thomas Aono, were like really, really passionate about it, studied the way it was actually made, and do what is, I think, considered by

a lot of enthusiasts to be a pretty authentic version of it, at least by American standards.

The menu has some appetizers like yozen karage and some non-soup bowls, but for crock dough burn faest, we are only eating soups.

Although Emma

broke the rule, Emma broke the rule.

Sorry,

I got my usual silver leg ramen quarter that I get all the time.

So I just got my comfort meal.

You just got like a

standard bowl.

You got a Sobero bowl.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We took a ruler to your knuckles.

Yeah.

Yeah, Mitch smashed my hand with a ruler.

So I then got a boner.

He keeps saying it's a crucifix, but I don't know.

Crucifix food.

I've never had a boner during Doughboys ever in my life, except for maybe the pandemic years when we were all at the bottom.

Everybody was having boners at home.

You were fucking tubing during our records?

I wasn't tubing.

You were tubing.

Who knows what was going on now?

I'm just saying.

I brought a tubing today.

I was not, I've never tubined during a Doughboys record.

Yeah.

Or any podcast record for that.

Oh, yeah.

Good.

Good.

And there we can.

Let's continue.

Yeah.

Let's continue.

You know what?

Thank you.

Thank you.

Betsy, you got the show you ramen.

Yes.

Show you a chicken broth and you got it with pork.

You got rid of the bamboo shoots, but added broccolini.

Yes.

I also got the show you ramen, but I got the show you on fire ramen again because I'm something of a heat seeker.

This is the spicy clear chicken broth and also has some jalapeno.

And this had a good amount of heat to it i like i was like i was feeling it at a certain point which i liked i also like that these come with a with a seasoned egg sometimes the egg is an add-on but these them being a default here it's it's so fun i love the egg i like the i love the egg too i got an extra egg i i almost got an extra egg yeah you get the you got the classic ramen with pork you got extra pork and added a seasoned boiled egg and amelia what did you say to me the perfect order you said this is the perfect order

and you had gotten it yesterday yeah i got it two days ago before we even decided what we were doing.

I got extra pork, extra egg.

It's the way it goes.

I always get extra seasoned egg on my ramen.

That's like one of my favorite parts.

Now, like, slightly soft, you know, I love it.

It's such a hoot.

Can I be honest with you?

Yeah.

I couldn't tell if you were dealing with the heat or you were just going through it when you were eating lunch.

I couldn't tell what the.

I looked at you, you were kind of looking down.

Little from column, Lil from Columbia.

I couldn't tell, to be honest.

Oh, yeah.

I was like, he's really looking into his soup, and I don't know what's going on here.

We're having a good time.

Yeah, you seem to, the heat seeker seemed to be defeated there.

No, I mean, I finished it, but it was like

I got the level two of three,

and it was

a good burn to it, which I like, you know?

That's what I want.

Here's one thing I will say, as someone who generally avoids pork.

That is a that is where ramen gets dinged a little bit because I do like a show you broth, but I do feel like the pork broth is just always going to be better.

It's just going to be, it's just so rich.

And I don't know.

I mean, like I've, I've had it sometimes and, you know, that there's ways I can kind of rationalize it.

I don't feel great about it because, again, you know,

but I like.

It is so, it is such a core element to it.

And it's so fucking good and rich and nourishing, even though it's so heavy.

So when I'm not having the pork broth, I do feel like ramen suffers in comparison, even though i do still like a show you i gotta tell you things are things are happening in in there right now yeah are they yeah oh no

there's the the factory the things are things are they're on overtime man

oh yeah i know that vibe i love pork so much and i feel so bad about how much i love it i know because i love pigs

but But

just talking about my mouth is what I love pork.

Yeah.

Anything pork, I'm like, this is the greatest thing I've ever had.

The thing is, it is delicious.

And I like it, you feel, you feel conflicted because, you know, pigs are, they seem to be intelligent animals, but with their, but I mean, I don't know, so are fucking cows.

You know what I mean?

Like, it's like,

I think we all are,

except for the people who are like just fucking assholes, which is, I guess, most of the country.

But, but except for those people, I think we're all doing, we're making our own moral choices and we're all doing the best we can.

I feel like if you're trying, you take just kind of like a harm reduction approach with whatever it is.

I don't know.

I think you can, you can feel all right about yourself.

It's always tough, though, when, when food is just like, it's when something's just there and you want it sometimes, it's like, I don't know, what are you supposed to do?

You know, I do admire people who have an absolute like ironclad rule, like something they will never violate.

That does like that moral code, that clarity really impresses me.

I'm so impressed by that, especially when it comes to like food.

Yeah.

I'm like, but food is so fun, yeah.

Food is the best.

It's uh, you know, it's the reason that I mean,

what else am I gonna do on this earth?

You know, I like food, it feels like that kind of ride.

It's like all I can do is just eat good food and have fun.

Yeah, we're just looking like from one meal to the next, basically.

Yeah,

yes, it hasn't changed much since our hunter-gatherer days.

Wigs.

Wow, well said, Mitch.

I,

this is not my favorite ramen in LA, but I do.

It is, I,

there's a lot of great ramen in LA.

The first time I tried it, I was like, meh, I want to see a little bit more of this place.

And then I went with Bobby Lee one time and I really enjoyed it.

I think that was

the first time that I really, we were having fun.

It was a good time.

And then,

and I don't have it often, you know what I mean?

But, but it's also just that thing I don't have ramen often.

Right.

Right.

But, uh, but

I got to tell you,

it was really good today.

It was hitting a day.

I really liked mine.

It was really, really yummy.

Yeah.

It was really, really good.

I like the, it's got the nice thin noodles, which I really like.

You can get a lot in your mouth, and that's a good feeling.

Also, this is one of those things where, you know, ramen is better on site, but the way they package it, the way they separate the elements, and then you, you know, they give you a big bowl with enough room to fit everything.

It's not sometimes these places, it's like, oh, this is going to be a sloppy mess.

I can only use some of the broth.

I got to portion it.

Here, you got plenty of room for everything in one big reservoir.

The broth is separate from the noodles and the proteins and your veggies.

And you combine that.

There is a little broth trough.

You get the little broth trough.

And

so it travels really well.

I love the green onion.

The broth trough that the nuns eat from?

I love all the green onion in it.

I love the micro cilantro and the lime.

And, you know, you get a little bit of seaweed, which came in a fries bag for some reason.

Still,

I like having that.

What's micro cilantro?

Tiny cilantro?

Yeah, it's like, I guess so.

Yeah.

Micro cilantro?

It's like, yeah.

You're like, it's normal size.

The micro cilantro wasn't that tiny, though, was it?

Yeah.

Pretty big.

The fries bag was strange, but it kept the seaweeds crisp until it went into your

season.

I also like them being like, it's an option if you want to put it in or not.

Did you put yours in?

I did not.

I don't mind it when it is in there, but I was like, I don't like it.

I'm not a huge seaweed guy, but in the ramen, I like it.

Yeah, I like it.

A little saltiness.

It's like the, it's almost like the spinach.

It's, you know, I can almost barely taste the difference.

Um,

I, I, I just did the original wages, and I, and I like, and with the extra pork and extra egg, and I, I loved it.

I was, uh, I was, yeah, it was really, really tasty.

AM, you got this is one of those things you just talked about.

I was like, oh man, it was really fucking good.

I mean, like, yeah, it's just that, you know, what are you going to say?

But I, but again, just to read her, I did really like the heat on it.

Um, you know, the chicken is like not the most exciting protein in a

in one of these.

And I almost like wish I'd just gotten tofu because, you know, like, but, but, like, I, it, it was, it was fine.

It got the job done.

Uh, there was certainly an ample portion.

Uh, I do opt out of the corn.

I just don't like it.

I like corn in certain contexts.

I just don't like it in ramen for whatever reason.

Amelia, you got the blazed ramen.

You also got something a little bit spicy.

This is the pork broth with a little bit of extra heat.

This also has a spinach, green onion, and bean sprouts, which I also like in a ramen.

It should add to mine.

Um, and uh, what would you think of that, bad boy?

Really good.

I'm pretty sure it's the same as the classic, but with just more heat in it.

Right.

Um, yeah, I love it.

Yes, it's delicious.

It feels, it feels like nectar.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Nectar.

Was it crazy hot or pretty like pretty nice?

No, it was normal.

Yeah.

Yum.

You're more like Superman today.

S-U-P.

Wow, Mitch, because I'm wearing, for our audio listeners, I'm wearing a Superman t-shirt, which I got for free at work.

You got that in the movie too.

Yeah.

That's in the movie for free.

So it's it's like, it's like

you did.

You did a nice little pun there on my apparel.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, that's really fun.

I am like Superman.

Dear Lord.

Oh, boy.

We're getting through it.

Wages.

I mean, should we get to final thoughts on yeah, I mean, what else?

What the fuck else can we say?

Yeah, I mean, Emma, everyone came in.

You know, everyone in the,

you know, Headgum was, there was some activity at headgum today.

It's true.

There were a lot of people in there.

There were so many people.

My fucking fucking bustling scared me.

And there was a lot of hipstery.

Hey, man.

Hey, man.

Bro, good to see you.

What's up, bro?

Hey, bro.

Dude, that's my favorite spot.

You guys are eating to the spot.

You guys are eating to the spot.

Spot, bro.

We're going to do a podcast, man.

Come on, guy.

Come on, hipsters.

You damn hipsters.

Everyone did come in and comment how like they're like that's like my favorite ramen spot yeah i walked in and multiple people were like dude good one today yeah yeah man yeah yeah man yeah yeah tans on so good

we didn't give a single bite to one of them did you know this was weird do you remember that hipster um who was like he was just smelling the ramen and he just came in floating in

horizontally

Smells good, bro.

Bro, I'm floating, man.

This ramen is making me float, man.

Yeah.

They just turn him around.

Hey, thanks, man.

Betsy, you've done the podcast before.

We will each go around, give our closing arguments on Silver Lake Ramen, and give it a score from zero to five forks.

However, because it is soup month, because it is crock dough burned fast,

I think instead of forks, we should do something more soup appropriate.

Well, wags.

Yeah.

Hmm.

I have a pitch.

Yes.

Soup forks.

I think soup forks is perfect.

Soup forks are awesome.

Zero to five soup forks.

Okay, okay.

Well, I gotta say,

I think I'm gonna give it

four soup forks.

Oh, I don't know, maybe five because it was on, it was so good.

You can do halves too, remember?

I know, I know.

No, I'm gonna go big.

I'm going to say five.

Wow.

All the way up to five.

It really hit the spot.

It was so tasty.

Yeah.

The pork was incredible.

The egg was incredible.

It was really, really good.

Yeah, I'm going to go five.

Wow.

Five forks.

Five soup forks.

I'm going big.

Five forks around forks.

Now, we could do ladles.

We could do chopsticks.

We could do spoons.

We could do spoons.

But I think we should stick with soup forks.

Okay, great.

I like soup forks.

Do the spoons that you get with ramen sometimes are with like different the like you know like the dumpling spoon like it's the extra deep ceramic spoon do those have like those are fun those are fun

I love those spoons I do too those are

Yeah, those are those are very fun spoons the miso soup spoons Yeah, yeah, but unfortunately there's no way to figure out what the name of them are so we're gonna go with soup forks Yeah, I think that might be what they're called

soup fork

I like soup forks

I can't believe we already did this before.

I'm looking at the Doughboys wiki at my intro.

I was like, fuck,

what is my angle going to be?

I almost wish you didn't know that and you wrote another one and we could see if you would have written the same thing again.

That would be so funny.

Love our guest, Sierra.

I worked with Sierra, the very funny,

you know, what a talented comedian and writer.

Just like

the specifics of that episode.

Yes.

It was last year, my man.

Man, I know.

It's fucking crazy.

Something's wrong with my brain.

Mitch, what do you think?

I'll go last.

You're going to go last.

I want to, and Emma, you know, you make your own rules.

What would be your fork score for Silver Lake Ramen?

Leap this out.

You can't be heard.

I can't say excited to get soup.

No, I have had their ramen before.

I'd probably give it like four forks.

You go four forks.

Amelia?

Amelia?

Maybe four and a half.

I think it's a 5-0.

I'll go four and a half.

You go four and a half.

When we did it with Sierra, first off, there is a really cute pick of Jemmy with some ramen.

Oh my God, you're perfect, Jemmy.

Look, I got, that's my bowl.

I got the same thing.

You got the exact same thing.

Wow.

Yes.

Wow.

That's cute.

Shout out to Benod, who maintains the Doughboys wiki, of course.

When we did it last time,

Sierra gave it four forks, Mitch, you gave it four forks, and me designating myself Mr.

Soup, a bit of canon that has fallen off, but I think that should be surfaced

for crock dough burn fast.

I am the burger boy, aka Mr.

Soup, a.k.a.

Mr.

T.

I gave it four forks.

Mitch, you gave it four forks.

It was a golden plate club all around.

With this revisit, it did impress me.

I will say this was a really, really great bowl of ramen.

I loved how hot it was.

I loved how, you know,

dense with flavor it was.

I think every component was high quality.

I think it traveled really well.

The thing is,

there is some really good ramen in L.A.

And we might visit some other places.

You know, we might talk about some other places.

And so if I think about it in context of what we have.

Oh, do these listeners that bet on Platinum Play Club knew they're pulling their hair out right now.

No, I mean, I think when I contrast it with what we have locally, it doesn't quite get to the five forks realm for me, but I could see it.

I could see an argument for being five forks because it is a chain that is a little bit larger in scale, at least in domestically than some of these other ones.

That said, some of these chains, I believe like a Daikokuya, has a lot of outlets that are

in Japan and just a few in LA.

I could be wrong about that, but that's the kind of place I'm thinking about in comparison to Silver Lake Ramen, which is still no slide.

Which I don't think we have ever done.

I don't think we reviewed it.

Incredible.

So good.

I love that place.

That's a five-soup forker for me.

Yeah, I am going to give

Silver Lake Ramen for this iteration, however, a slightly improved score.

I'm going to go up from four

forks

to four and a half soup forks.

That's where I'm going to land in my 2025 review.

Mitch, what do you think?

That's, we love that.

We love that growth, wise.

The market, everything these days is about growth.

It's really good.

It's really good.

I thought that I was going to be the deciding vote on 2-5 forkers, 2.5 soup forkers, but that's no longer the case.

I think what it's trying to do, it really does well.

And I think that it's, it's,

you know,

I think it's a really good bowl of ramen, yeah.

And uh, I can't, I can't go below four, and I was forks, and I'm gonna go four and a half soup forks, four and a half soup forks.

So, it stays in the Golden Plate Club here during Crock Do Burn Fa S.

Uh, so congratulations to Silver Lake Ramen, yeah, and um, yeah, what a, what a, what a hoot to revisit, even if we've done it in the recent, in recent memory, not even a year ago, right?

Was it a year ago?

It was a little over a year, yeah, uh, May 2024, yeah, okay, yeah, you should just do it it this whole month

and wiger continually being like we did it last week

oh my god

does croc dough burn foest end with you in a straitjacket

wearing the gator costume

we haven't reviewed silver lake ramen i tell you we haven't reviewed it

i tell you

vinod who's in charge of the

he's

Dough Boys Insane Asylum and the Wikipedia.

He's got to be in a big net.

That was our review.

You songs in the cell next to you.

I'm thinking of who's in the

Drop King, Bub Main.

I'm trying to think of all the people in the Dough Boys Insane Asylum.

The whole Robes Gallery.

Rob Lowe is there.

Rob Lowe is there.

All right.

Hey, that was our review of Silver Lake Ramen.

We got a segment.

We're going to take a look.

Some say Rob Lowe's video camera is still rolling.

And we,

he got up and walked away, and the camera was still rolling.

Oh, my God.

And we were like,

all right, he's gone.

It was just a video.

It was empty room.

He was pulling a tape in.

So funny.

He was like, I'm going to go get In-N-N-N-Out Burger right now and got up and left.

And it was just his, and it was still just rolling.

And you're like, yes, someone will take care of that room at some point.

We should rejoin it.

Should we rejoin it?

See what happens?

It's still alive.

All right, we got a segment, which we're going to take one moment to set up.

All right, we're back.

Things have appeared.

That's right.

Time for the return of a segment.

From Headgum Studios in Silverlake, this is serial.

A segment told one bull at a time.

This is a corrupt call for the penitentiary from Captain Crunch.

I walked in and Toucan Sam was lying in a pool of blood.

Yummy Mummy was in there, sucking himself off.

Okay.

Amelia copy-pasted the above into an email as, quote, serial segment copy.

And so I read it verbatim.

Where did you hold that from?

I looked up the last time we did it, and I just wrote it down.

All right, great.

That's cannon now.

That was great.

So So we have the Kellogg's Wednesday cookies and cream cereal and the Kellogg's Wednesday Howland Confetti Cake Cereal.

Anybody seen Wednesday?

I have not.

You've maybe seen the pilot?

I watched the pilot.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I was kind of bummed because

she leaves her fun family

immediately.

And I was like, I want to see like Gomez

being funny.

Uncle Fester a little bit more.

Yeah, we've got to see Fester.

Let me say this.

First off, the Wednesday Howland Confetti Cake Enid,

I guess Enid is a character from the Wednesday IP.

Is a

like that box is like very, this is very, and I think Matt Singer has pointed this out, wicked-coded.

You know what I mean?

It's like very much like we're trying to do the contrast between

Glinda and Alphabet.

Yes.

But we, but, you know, we've certainly got that with Enid here.

And then Wednesday, who's got the cool goth box.

This is the cookies and cream flavor, which I already mentioned.

I do like the box design of the Wednesday one.

I think that looks pretty cool.

Yeah, I agree.

Goth Goth box.

It's also a little bit like, it looks a little Harry Potter-ish in my mind.

Yes.

I will also say I like the return of a sense of fun to this.

Yes, I like fun cereals.

I was saying that beforehand.

I was going to say, we should eat the fruity one.

Yeah, let's eat the

chocolatey one.

So that's the Enid one is the fruity one.

Confetti cake?

Yeah, confetti cake.

This milk is supposed to turn purple.

It does not look particularly purple to me.

I guess a little bit.

Am I still looking a little purple?

Yeah.

Maybe if it sits longer.

Is this, what what is this akin to, like an apple jacks?

What's this reminding me of?

It's a little apple jacksy.

It's pretty good.

It is pretty good.

It's not as potently sweet as I might expect from a confetti cake.

It's pretty good.

Mine's a little purple.

My milk's a little purple.

Yeah, mine's turning purple.

It takes a minute to get there.

Mine's purple.

You see that?

I think that's a snack.

I'd have a bowl of those.

Yeah, that's pretty great.

Pretty yummy.

I would love to put it on ice cream too.

Guys?

I agree.

Yeah, this would be fun as an ice cream topper.

I'm shocked.

That's pretty good.

Whoa.

Would you use that milk to make ice cream?

Doesn't milk bar do that?

Their cereal ice cream.

That would be awesome.

It's so good.

The cereal milk ice milkshake, I think, comes with like crumbled cereal on top, but it's fantastic.

So I always think about that with different milks like this.

It would be really great.

Yeah.

I want to eat more of it.

It's good.

I can't

i'm gonna switch over to the white okay i'm gonna try this cookies and cream is there there's marshmallow bits in the love marshmallows are they little um ghosts they're little ghosts they're little ghosts i think good is cereal soup

i was wondering no

why not why not

i don't know

i guess i wouldn't say oatmeal

or like cream of wheat or cream of rice was soup.

I wouldn't say like Brits or soup.

It's just a chilly category.

Yeah.

But for some reason, cereal kind of feels like it's the same principle as soup.

I gotta tell you.

Wednesday is not very tasty.

Doesn't always pay to be goth.

Oh man, why does this suck?

It's fucking bad.

And it also, like, maybe I'm putting, it looks like little pieces of shit.

It doesn't help that.

It doesn't help.

It doesn't help.

It doesn't help the taste of just being like, what is this?

It doesn't help that it looks like little shit nuggets.

It looks like little pieces of shit with little globs of bird shit.

Oh, because the little

weird, like, after

it tastes like dirt cereal.

It really does.

It is disgusting.

I kind of like

this one more chocolatey.

I am kind of addicted to it for some reason.

Oh, man, that's that's pretty putrid tasting.

Wow, that's rough.

Two very polarizing flavors, it seems.

It's rare, it's rare, rare, it's rare,

it's rare when you get something that gets chocolate so wrong.

Yeah.

Especially in cereal when they've nailed it.

Yeah, it feels like I was like, oh, we're going to get cocoa puffs with some marshmallows.

Marshmallows are so sugary.

Marshmallows are super sweet.

That's an intense bite of cereal.

I wonder if that was part.

Did they overthink it?

Did they mute the chocolatey

wood part a little bit to try to have a little bit more contrast with the super sweet, super potent marshmallows?

And maybe they overcorrect it.

I really don't like that.

I kind of came around one of it.

Mitch loves it.

I'm going to go with a slight snack for it.

Is there any copy on here to detail what exactly is going on here?

It feels like it definitely came from that dark room.

It does.

You know, it tastes very spooky in the sense of like, ew, it tastes like a nasty haunted house.

Where little turds can accidentally get on the conveyor belt.

Yeah, and you're like, uh-oh, we're eating those little turds.

So they've got little games on the back of each box

that you can play.

You can do a little, a little, a little, you know, like find everything, find everything that's hidden in this room.

Can I see wages?

Yeah.

Fun.

But this also has on the side, fun facts.

Fangfield Enid's fun facts.

When Enid wolfs out, she stays fashionable with pink and blue fur and multicolored claws.

She's a fucking werewolf.

She's a wolf.

What the hell's going on on Wednesday?

Make that look like that, man.

I know this is silly to say just from hearing this, but our world sucks.

Enid and the actress who plays her are both fans of K-pop music.

Oh, that's fun.

Enid wears pink shoelaces with her Neverbore Academy uniform.

Enid's first words to Wednesday were, Howdy, Roomie.

They're roommates.

Oh,

how trivia where it's like, I watched the first episode, and that's all I'm giving to guys.

He said, Howdy, roommate.

Is that cool?

I don't know.

Some freelancer has paid $150 to come up with these.

I watched one episode of this.

Listen to these ingredients.

Yeah.

Uh-oh.

Whole grain yellow corn flour, sugar, cocoa processed with alkali,

accidental little turds.

Okay, now we're talking.

Now we're talking.

It's nice they threw accidental in there.

Yeah.

Yeah, no, they didn't mean it.

Yeah.

Okay, when you woe, you know, here's some more fun facts for the Wednesday box.

Wednesday never blinks in the show.

I like that detail.

That's fun.

That's

like David and AI.

That's fun.

Wednesday's typewriter is from Germany.

That's such a great performance from young Haley Joel Osman in that movie.

Oh, fantastic.

Our buddy of Haley Joel, yeah.

Past Doughboy's guest.

Wednesday's typewriter is far is from Germany, so the keys are different than in ones in English-speaking countries.

Okay.

The Po-Cup team names are based on titles of Edgar Allan Poe stories.

Well, that follows.

Okay, good.

In season one, episode seven, Uncle Fester mentions the Kalamazoo job.

Kalamazoo is a real city in Michigan, just 21 miles from Cereal City, home of Kellogg's Cereal.

Wow.

This one,

I don't know if I can read this one.

Oh, no.

Does it say the Adams family started when Uncle Vester farted?

Mitch does not say that.

What it says, I'm just worried because you're feeling a little kooky.

This one might be too spooky.

Oh, no.

I might feel your pants up and dookie,

my dookie.

Wednesday was born on Friday the 13th.

I raised the ceiling.

I get it.

Kellogg's comes in and be like, yes,

you can make thousands of boxes with these little turds.

Thank you so much.

Solid snack to the Enid.

Hard whack to the Wednesday.

Yeah.

And I'm surprised because I would have thought just based off of their appearances, you know, Wednesday, that's more my vibe.

Same, same, same.

But that Enid one was pretty tasty.

Don't judge a cereal by its box.

Thank you.

I think you guys should try the chocolate one again.

I'll do, I'll take one more bite of this, but I think it's pretty disgusting.

One more.

I'll get a little ghost in there.

Oh, well, I hate it.

I hate it more.

Awful.

I think it got better.

Is the milk from your first one more purple now?

Yes.

But thank you.

They're both kind of.

No, you don't like it.

It really tastes like

dirt.

Like a fire or something.

Or like dirt.

Yeah, just kind of like old.

Like an attic.

Soil.

Does the milk from the Wednesday one turn black?

It turns a little gray.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It is pretty gross.

I ate both of my bowls.

Yeah.

The Deus is having some dry versions of these cereals.

I actually love to eat dry cereal.

It's a good high stack.

I'll just like eat it out of a box.

Yeah, for sure.

I never have liked dry cereal.

I need it a little wet.

Honey o's are one of my favorites to eat dry.

They're good.

Yeah.

Depends on context.

Amelia, you're making a face.

The brown one tastes like cigarettes.

Yeah, it does.

Doesn't it taste like ashy or something?

It's pretty fucking nasty.

Oh, yeah.

Whoever was making this was smoking a cig.

Yeah.

I like cigs, so maybe that's why I like it.

Oh, yeah.

You love eating cigs.

Hey, are you done with that?

Don't throw it on the ground.

I only eat one or two cigarettes a year now.

I don't do it like I used to do.

Forget, you used to be like two packs a day, dad.

I have a friend from high school who, in college, started eating cigarettes for like a dare.

That's funny.

He said he pictures like, I've been eating cigarettes.

Why girl?

All right, dude.

College is going great for you.

That is so funny.

He has a fucking full cigarette in his tongue.

The tobacco was like open.

What is he?

I wonder what his job is.

He probably does.

This man probably has a family now.

Yeah, he's like a scientist.

RFK.

My grand college buddy.

Cigarettes are back, but I don't want to eat a cigarette, but I will, I like, Mitch, we were at that, we were having that hang last night.

We were sitting outside.

There's a guy who's smoking.

I was like, man, I'll fucking rip a cig right now.

He flicked the button to the street.

Yeah.

That's a bummer.

Don't litter.

Yeah, yeah.

But it smelled pretty good.

Yeah, it was.

I do, especially like if I'm drinking and hanging out, it is a little like, yeah,

yeah, that's fine with me.

Let's

with that ramen and i'm gonna be starting my own atoms family pretty soon yeah uncle fest burning

uh that was serious wait would you any verdicts back there oh well i was gonna add that um it does grow on me the cigarette one wow you're addicted meals got it meals gets it

I like the marshmallows in the cigarette one.

Like, this kind of reminds me of

the Lucky Charms marshmallows.

Yeah, similar vibe, and I like those, but I don't, that's a whack.

I like the Enid one, though.

Oh, yeah, that's a good one.

Does Wednesday smoke in the show?

Maybe that's the connection.

Is she a big smoker?

Netflix show for children.

Kids

chain smoking the whole time.

And everybody being like, you look so cool doing that.

That was serial.

Just like a restaurant via your feedback.

Let's go to the feedback.

Today's email is from Peters,

plural, I guess.

Peters writes, hey, Dofam, we know your thoughts on consuming human flesh, but I was curious about your tastes in extinct animals.

If you could bring back one animal from extinction to become a food source, which do you think would be the most tasty?

Wow, intriguing question.

I mean, it would be fun to have a Bronto burger just to be able to do it.

Oh, my, I was going to say Brontosaurus.

Bronto burger.

Yeah.

Bronto burger.

That's good.

I mean, I guess a larger, if we're going back to the Gatas, you know, like a larger reptile can be a little bit more toothsome because you think think about eating smaller reptiles and it's just like i feel like they're maybe too lean um i you know it's it's it's not really necessarily something i want to eat so i could see a dinosaur maybe being yummy but i ooh boy i don't know i'm i'm thinking of like the extinct mammals right and i wonder if like you know

would you want to have like a mammoth like i feel like i'm always seeing like things of neander talls with like fucking spears they're all hunting a mammoth and maybe that was just like a big bounty of meat or would be that be just so blubbery that it's not a particularly yummy thing.

It's like the fat is nutritious and will nourish you, but it's not particularly yummy.

Didn't like

some people eat like frozen mammoth meat like a

years ago, or were I want to say something like they found like a frozen mammoth?

Now I might be making this all up.

It's from an improv show I did,

but yeah, like I think like scientists uncovered some like mammoth meat and like ate it, maybe.

That's amazing.

I don't know.

Now I'm like, oh no, this could be way off.

But I kind of freak out of like, is it too close to elephant?

Yeah, that's what I worry about.

That probably

freaks me out.

Ethically, yeah.

Yeah, because I mean like I don't want to hurt a fucking animal.

Didn't the dodo bird go extinct because they were like slow and delicious and people would eat them?

Yeah, that would be an interesting one.

Because they used to be everywhere.

I'm also like, there were there's some weird like ones they're like they were just like fucking huge sloths like gigantic fucking sloths yeah and just like you know like like humans i like hunted them to extinction as they did fucking everything but like like what would a 12-foot sloth taste like you know

i wonder maybe maybe good i'm trying to think of what

what are those what are like the what are what's like the uh the nautilus you know what i'm talking about

a trilobite yeah that's what that would be my answer i would eat trilobites you've always bet on

You always bet on...

What's your

favorite?

You always gamble on fish.

I will always gamble on fish.

I wear their little two bug-like, but I guess the sea bugs can be pretty yummy.

And they have bite in the name, too.

That's true.

So their assets are

going to be eaten.

Hey, come on.

This one,

oh, God, I can't say it.

A mollusk.

No,

no,

I can say mollusk.

I was reading mollusk while you said, and I was like, are you reading the same thing?

How would you say that?

A monoidea?

A monodea.

What is it?

A monoidea.

It's a little

prehistoric shit.

Oh my god.

It's a little prehistoric.

It would be like a little.

It seems like it would just be like, you know, like if you put some, you know, mignonette sauce on it and stuff.

Yeah, like a sea snail or something like that.

They were like giant shrimps or something.

Yeah, like that.

That's what that's sort of like

some things used to be smaller, some things used to be bigger, but the ones that used to be fucking big, I'm interested in.

Yeah.

There is a threaded thread on this, but all of these, like, mostly it's like these, these guys are saying, like, these birds, these kind of dolphin-like creatures, and then this big pig.

I would be a big pig.

Are they talking about eating them or are they talking about?

Oh, no, they're talking about eating them.

Okay, yeah, yeah.

Because, because, like, like, I think you'd want to map it onto things that we eat nowadays.

You know, that's why I think the dodo is a pretty good argument.

Big pig, big pacific.

Big pig.

Big pig is a good one.

Yeah.

Big bacon.

Big bacon.

Big bacon.

Here's one: the western black rhinoceros, which was declared extinct in 2011.

It'd be great to bring that one back just to eat it.

We brought two baths.

And we ate them into extinct.

And we gave them up in one night.

Oh, this comment probably gives the most in-depth answer for what mammoth would have tasted like.

Oh, maybe that's what.

I was thinking of this.

I swear they ate some, though.

The comment mentions human flesh,

eating human flesh, which we talked about.

Betsy, would you eat a person depending on the con like sit the situation?

Oh my god.

Maybe my answer is Neanderthal.

It would be interesting to see what would an extinct

human taste like.

Whoa.

Whoa.

This is just that.

You're going to bring one back and he's like, he looks at us and he's like, oh, shit, like all scared.

And then we get to eat the fucking Neanderthal.

He knows, here we go again.

Close enough to us.

Yes.

Not us eating a Homo sapien.

But I also don't want to eat like a gorilla.

You know, that feels weird.

Chimp.

Yeah, yeah, no, it's going to be more human than chimp.

If we're going to eat it,

okay, no, do you get in trouble if you brought back meat?

Nobody ate mammoth meat.

Nobody ate mammoth.

If you brought back a Neanderthal and then killed it and ate it, would you get in trouble?

I think you probably would.

Would that be murder?

I think it might be.

I don't know.

I can't tell.

It's like you're in all the power of it, right?

I guess if you killed a monkey and ate it, you'd probably get in some trouble.

Yeah, depending on the jurisdiction.

You can't go to Griffith Park Zoo and do it.

No, certainly not.

Yeah.

If you kill it, like that, that's

interesting to see

what the

classification would be of.

you brought a Neanderthal back to life using genetic engineering or by unfreezing it.

Right.

Like what is the what is its legal status now?

You know what I mean?

Right.

Well, I mean, in Encino Man,

You're right.

And becomes a citizen.

That's a great one.

You know what?

That's a good question.

He does become a citizen as

a legal citizen.

He does it the right way, Wise.

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Maybe you just get thrown in one of those nice

Ghillain Maxwell prisons if you did it.

That's probably where you'd end up.

Oh, man, it looks pretty nice, right?

Just get everything taken care of.

You get to go jogging,

yoga.

Yeah, it seems like take art class.

It's crazy.

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Betsy Sedaro, such an absolute delight.

Thanks for having me.

Make also agree.

It was an absolute delight.

Wonderful.

Make makes my day, makes my week so much brighter.

So much fun.

Thank you so much for being here.

Best seeing you guys.

We love you so much.

Anything you would like to plug?

I guess just watch Ghost.

And I don't know when it comes out.

Soon, though.

Sometime in October, it's coming out.

Whatever goes.

Like, good of me.

Uh, whatever.

One of the funniest people in the world.

You guys are so nice.

I love y'all.

We love you.

Thanks for having me.

Well, thank you for being here.

Wow.

Anytime.

All right.

We'll take advantage of that.

Honestly,

that'll do it for this episode of Doughboys.

Until next time for the Spoon Man, Mike Mitchell, I'm Tiger Weiger.

Happy eating.

See ya.

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