Joel McHale

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Speaker 1 Okay, so we've got Joel McHale.

Speaker 3 joel mihale nice chat with joel joel mihale i did a pilot once uh

Speaker 3 a little while back and joel mihale was in it with ken

Speaker 3 ken young who uh

Speaker 3 are really good friends like best friends yeah i just think for best friends forever um i know

Speaker 3 we've all we all know joel we all know ken joel's uh a great stand-up. We see him at the comedy store.

Speaker 1 We talk about community, this show community he did forever. He did, uh, we talk, of course, about asking about Chevy Chase because that ties into us a little bit.
And

Speaker 1 good stories. Guy's got good stories.

Speaker 1 And he also likes international scouts. Do you know that Dana? Because where I get my land cruiser done,

Speaker 1 he buys up a lot of scouts, and they're all old ones and very cool ones.

Speaker 3 And he was one of the first. He did a show where you

Speaker 3 make fun of videos.

Speaker 1 Oh, talk soup.

Speaker 3 And talk soup. Yeah, it's great.
And

Speaker 3 what's kind of interesting, without giving you away, I'll talk about he had a little bit of dyslexia and he was reading teleprompters and the struggle and the challenge of that. But that show is huge.

Speaker 3 It went on for years.

Speaker 3 And he now has a new show.

Speaker 1 Animal Control. And I think it's just started its third season.
And I just read a really nice thing about it in the paper. So

Speaker 1 Animal Control,

Speaker 1 you know him for sure when you see him. And we had a nice chat.
So let's listen up. Enough about us.

Speaker 3 Very exciting. That beard is rocking.

Speaker 1 Look at his fucking cool hair, too. I hate this guy already.

Speaker 5 Look at all the transplants, guys. This can be yours.

Speaker 1 Literally. No, it cannot.

Speaker 2 That's too good.

Speaker 3 You got to have some donors if you're going to go. No, that is fucking Trinny Lopez, early Tom Jones.

Speaker 1 Who are your hair donors, Charo?

Speaker 5 When the Russian Olympic doping thing hit, I was able to reap the benefits because they had all this

Speaker 5 extra tranquilizer sitting around, guys. But Parsoe, he's in Sherman Oaks.
He's a wizard. This is

Speaker 5 my great-grandfather.

Speaker 5 That would have been me.

Speaker 1 He's showing a picture of a goddamn.

Speaker 2 Oh, really? A cue boy.

Speaker 1 Might as well be George Costanza.

Speaker 3 And you're like, well, who has the greatest hair in Hollywood? I think it was.

Speaker 2 What did Robino you say?

Speaker 3 Rob Lowe said Richard Gere, I think, in the history of Hollywood.

Speaker 2 Joel McHale.

Speaker 5 I think it's Jeff Bridges.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, if... Keanu's.

Speaker 2 Keanu's.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Can I make my face redder?

Speaker 3 That's just the Tito's wearing off.

Speaker 1 Everyone says on the YouTube comments.

Speaker 1 Hey, Spade, rough night. I'm like, no,

Speaker 1 this is just it, guys. They're like, geez, what a disaster.

Speaker 3 It's Northern European. You get a little rosacea.

Speaker 1 I don't think I'm red, Heather. Am I in real life?

Speaker 1 My fucking dad was kind of red, but he was such a goddamn drunk.

Speaker 5 Yeah, but you're still you

Speaker 5 at this age. Look, if you still, if we all went back to our high school reunions, just an impromptu high school reunion, we'd all be like, oh, we're doing great.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, you're right. Me and my buddies from high school don't look so fucking tragic.
So we see,

Speaker 1 by the way, when I was and back in Arizona, Ser Joel, and they,

Speaker 1 these two old dudes walked up to us, and I'm like, oh, look at these broken down motherfuckers. And they go, Hey, we were a year under you guys in high school at Saguaro.
I'm like, shut the fuck up.

Speaker 1 Wait, we're all around the same?

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 5 Well, they also were sitting in the Arizona sun, right? They were

Speaker 1 everyone lays out every day. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We're no sunscreen.

Speaker 3 That's for girly men. I talked to a guy at an event in the recent past, about 20 minutes, and had no idea who he was.
He's in show business, but he quietly, quietly put on 50

Speaker 2 and he became.

Speaker 3 I don't know why it's always quiet, but it was unrecognizable. And then someone told me later, and you, you kids out there can guess who it was, but it was not Joel or Ken, his best friend, Ken Yong.

Speaker 3 Who was it?

Speaker 5 Let me guess. No,

Speaker 2 yeah, I like it.

Speaker 4 Where she was, let's do it. We'll save it.

Speaker 3 No, I can't because it would be mean to the person.

Speaker 1 I saw a guy that loudly put up.

Speaker 3 But I think Martin Sheen got over it in a second. No, it was not Martin Sheen.

Speaker 1 It wasn't Ken Jong. He's on.

Speaker 1 He was born on Ozempic.

Speaker 3 That guy's fit. He can still high jump over six feet.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Do you guys know who Nathan Fillion is?

Speaker 5 Yeah. Very extremely handsome man from Edmonton.
And he continues to look great, but he like when starting around like late 30s, 40s, he did put on 50 pounds easily.

Speaker 5 Still look great.

Speaker 2 Oh, really?

Speaker 5 And then he lost it all.

Speaker 5 I don't know how he did it,

Speaker 5 but he lost it all. And everyone's like, you look great.
And he literally was like, if you just carry an extra 50 for a decade, then, and you lose it, then you get this new blank check to look great.

Speaker 5 Because

Speaker 5 everyone's like, Hey, and I was like, Oh,

Speaker 5 you could just hang in there for that 10 years.

Speaker 1 That guy pulls wool, even when he's 50 plus over.

Speaker 3 No, you come in a boozed-up alcoholic at the 40th anniversary, and then for the 50th, you just go clean for a decade.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and you got all the Nate Pergatzi says he just tells people, even though he's kind of fat, he goes,'I just tell people I lost 300 pounds, and they go,'Holy shit, you look great.'

Speaker 3 Nate Bergatzi is not fat, but he says to that to people, so they go, Oh, wow.

Speaker 1 Well, now this is pretty good for you.

Speaker 5 He's like, That's, I saw Def Leppard play.

Speaker 2 Yes,

Speaker 2 so did we.

Speaker 5 Thank you. Uh, this is 10.
They opened for Kiss at the forum.

Speaker 5 Open for, I know, I felt

Speaker 2 like

Speaker 2 that's the

Speaker 3 story. That's a pick'em.
We got to interview Joe Elliott for an hour. What a kick in the pants that got

Speaker 1 what were you saying?

Speaker 5 Well, one of them, someone was like, Well, Def on this comeback because one of them had cancer.

Speaker 5 And

Speaker 5 you get up there and then you start watching them. I was like, which one has cancer? And there was like all the three of them were bloated

Speaker 5 and bad hair dye. They're all.

Speaker 5 And then the guy with cancer, just skinny.

Speaker 3 and short just like full of energy they're like he's doing great now and i was like oh wow that really shows you i think it's it's sad when there's like a quartet of singers or whatever, and then they eventually, one by one, pass away.

Speaker 3 I was in Vegas once, and they, ladies and gentlemen, the platter.

Speaker 3 And it was like, such a bringback.

Speaker 1 I saw, I saw

Speaker 1 Lightwood Mac when it was down to Stevie Nick's, two guys from Los Lobos and a contest. And the name is

Speaker 2 Beach Boy.

Speaker 5 Just Josie. Josie and

Speaker 1 some friends.

Speaker 5 I remember in Seattle. It said Steppen Wolf, no original members.

Speaker 5 And I thought,

Speaker 2 what happened? What's going on? What is the point?

Speaker 3 Well, then it's a, what do you call it? Tribute band.

Speaker 2 Is that point, right?

Speaker 1 It's really just a cover band, which is kind of good. I saw Led Zep again or one of these, you know, and the cover bands where.

Speaker 1 I didn't even, well, I didn't think it was really Led Zeppelin, but I said, okay, at least I'll just go hear hear the Led Zeppelin songs. I can win a cover band, right?

Speaker 1 And they were like, Here's one that no one knows. I don't even think Robert Plant remembers.

Speaker 3 I'm like, No, no, no, guys, here's the deal.

Speaker 2 I want to know every motherfucker, and then they weren't doing hits.

Speaker 1 They go, We're not here to do the Zeppelin hits. I go, Okay, I think you don't understand what's going on.
I paid $3, and what I want

Speaker 2 three dollars at the Vaseline room in Reno or something?

Speaker 1 I think it was at Sharkies that played.

Speaker 5 I like a tribute band that's like,

Speaker 5 we're not playing the hits.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 What is your only job?

Speaker 3 And you're not playing to a crowd.

Speaker 5 We're going to play a new song.

Speaker 1 What? No, it was at Canyon Club, Joel. Do you know what Canyon is? Oh, yes.

Speaker 3 Yes. Oh, God.

Speaker 3 Not a great gig.

Speaker 1 Actually, I played Canyon Club, so I can't.

Speaker 2 I played it.

Speaker 3 That's why I'm saying.

Speaker 1 I saw Foreigner there.

Speaker 5 I bet it was great.

Speaker 1 It was actually three in her because one guy didn't show up.

Speaker 5 My friend Boyd.

Speaker 2 Let me do a quick because the joke's so bad. You go like this.

Speaker 5 Oh, no, my friend Boyd saw Rick Springfield there. And

Speaker 5 he said Rick Springfield walked out and said, fuck you, I'm 75. And then just went right into Jesse's girl.

Speaker 2 Jesus, that's the best opening ever.

Speaker 3 Let me do a quick Dennis Miller. This is 20 seconds per this topic.
Playing a casino in San Bernardino. And, you know, in the casinos, they're all in the bar for the longest time.
Then they come in.

Speaker 3 So we came out like two minutes before we go on. It's a thousand seats, not one person sitting there.
And Dennis goes, Christ's sakes, Kirby. Did we just turn into three dog night over here?

Speaker 3 Sorry. I just wanted to share that with Joel because I knew he would chuck.

Speaker 5 Dad, you actually taught me

Speaker 5 years ago, you were like. Yeah, you ever go to those gigs where you haven't done stand-up in a while?

Speaker 5 And then you just go into your act and it's, you're barely holding on to the roller coaster as it's going. And I was like, oh, that, that, thank.
I'm so glad you said that.

Speaker 1 Someone else has done it.

Speaker 3 The more famous you get, your stand-up gets shitty for a while. Like, probably when you're full-time on community, you're doing less, less reps, less, and then your price is going up and up,

Speaker 5 right? Yeah. So they get a lot of benefits, a lot of talk about greatest hits.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, we know the old days, Joe, where you're not that old, but.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I'm old.

Speaker 2 When

Speaker 2 Dana was

Speaker 1 headlining you could still get carded if you do a little agreeably right there i was out there with some guys that were just doing the same 45 not even an hour just same 45 on the dot then it seemed a year later same 45 three years later that because they just had mailing lists and stuff there was no tick tock or youtube or not that many specials at all right there's only a couple do you ever get like well the as you said like the bands come out they play all their hits and that's what everyone wants to hear and i'm like yeah but i don't think comics can do that.

Speaker 1 I know. I do a mixture usually because some people go, oh, you didn't do the one joke of yours I like.

Speaker 5 Yeah,

Speaker 3 I am very close to doing a one-man show where I do quick change, church lady, haunts.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah, you go hearth.

Speaker 1 You kill it.

Speaker 3 I did that, Ed Sullivan. The person goes behind the

Speaker 3 partition panel and then comes out as a totally new character in like one second.

Speaker 5 You've got, well, you're, you've reached the

Speaker 5 well, you both are reached reached that legend status. So you can bring me in there.

Speaker 3 Thank you.

Speaker 5 But you should then do three characters that everybody knows and then throw in a character that you'd be like, and this one was from SNL's 1986 special.

Speaker 5 And then just be a character that you've never done before.

Speaker 1 Deep cuts.

Speaker 1 And it's like, this got to read-through, and that was it.

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Speaker 1 He's got that animal control thing in the back.

Speaker 2 Animal control

Speaker 3 shows don't get third seasons anymore.

Speaker 2 Fuck.

Speaker 3 This is a fucking hit in 2024, a third season.

Speaker 5 I always say, well,

Speaker 5 we've done 30 total episodes, which, you know,

Speaker 2 in the old days.

Speaker 1 In the new world, yeah.

Speaker 2 Double tail days has one season.

Speaker 5 Yeah, so hey, divide up the pie however you like. That's great.

Speaker 2 Let's call it.

Speaker 1 You know, when we did Rules of Engagement, Dane, at the end, it was always 22 episodes.

Speaker 1 And the way we whined about it was, because you can always find a way to grouse in the set, is first season of Rules of Engagement, we did 22 and we debuted huge. And then there was a fucking strike.

Speaker 1 And we came back and we never got the momentum.

Speaker 4 Our fault, I guess.

Speaker 1 There was only 13 pickups.

Speaker 2 And you're

Speaker 2 13,

Speaker 1 and your whole year is over because you can't do anything. You can't book anything else.
You can't get a new show. And you just wait.
And on May, they go, We might bring you back.

Speaker 1 And if we do, it'll be for a measly 13.

Speaker 3 We'd do less if we could.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, God dang. The second we got to 100 episodes, they fired us that day.
They're like, that's all we need. By

Speaker 3 Joel, who are you following?

Speaker 2 Who wants to show you?

Speaker 1 What is this magic?

Speaker 5 Who am I following? Oh, I thought you meant like in my political life.

Speaker 5 The proud boys.

Speaker 5 No.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 You had me. I was like, thank you.

Speaker 1 They have a great TikTok.

Speaker 3 Are you on? What night are you on and what time coming up?

Speaker 5 We're on.

Speaker 5 I think we're on.

Speaker 5 It's January 2nd

Speaker 5 as hangovers are just being

Speaker 5 here.

Speaker 5 A perfect day. Yeah.

Speaker 5 I think that's a Thursday after

Speaker 5 Hell's Kitchen or Next Level Chef with Gordon Ramsey, who's always creating Sculpt. And then Dennis Leary has a new comedy that is on after us.

Speaker 1 I know all about it. Really? Yeah.

Speaker 3 Oh, what is his show? Because what's

Speaker 3 Dutch? What's the one?

Speaker 1 It's called, nope.

Speaker 1 I'm getting there.

Speaker 5 I'm really great at not getting me to.

Speaker 1 I'm telling you, going Dutch.

Speaker 5 Going Dutch. Yes.
It's about an army base in Europe that is only for supplies.

Speaker 5 And so they're like the great distributor to all the bases. So they have, there's no action at all.
And Danny Pudi is in it from community.

Speaker 5 And so yeah, the family is slowly coming back. So that, yeah, that's we were very lucky because Fox is hung in, you know, you hear all these stuff, but they hung in there with the show.
And

Speaker 5 not

Speaker 5 compared to community, but like on community, but we were always, we were always on the bubble.

Speaker 5 and uh and fox like they like the show they're like we're hanging in there and now it's slowly built up on hulu and they've taken their time and so they've they did the thing that you that old comedies used to do where they would take care of it and nurture it and water it and uh so it's gotten better and uh i i it's really enjoyable it's nice they do what they say because not all these networks they can tell you it's great until the day they chop your head off and you go, oh, but that's, it's just a biz.

Speaker 1 But I think they add in Hulu. There's some reason you're doing well.
You know, they, they calculate everything together. Some metric, something means it's working.
AI.

Speaker 5 It is.

Speaker 5 It's interesting that the, I mean, not to get nuts, but they like how Netflix, like friends and the office, those are, and suits of all, you know, like they're all, and same thing with community.

Speaker 5 We didn't become a hit until after streamers came out. And they're, they were, and these shows have 100 or 150 episodes and

Speaker 5 people see them like comfort food and you were nbc and how many episodes we were nbc we were canceled after our fourth season and then brought back on yahoo screen what's that what's that uh it was a short-lived streaming service that yahoo that's a calculator yeah that it was it went from the biggest calculator app biggest website to yeah to a uh to weather and uh to just a little weather app after after but they literally blamed us for the downfall of Yahoo screen.

Speaker 5 Which I'm like, I brought down a streamer. And

Speaker 5 then that was it after six seasons. So we did like 130.

Speaker 1 So you had 130 to sell.

Speaker 3 It kind of, I don't know the word cult, but it has legs. I mean, because I don't think anything kind of like community, it was unique, you know? Yeah.

Speaker 3 Just its vibe and the way it was written and the people in it. So it's kind of cool that it lives on.

Speaker 5 Yeah, Dan, Dan Harmon is a freaking

Speaker 5 true genius. I think, David, you probably know him.

Speaker 2 I would think

Speaker 2 you know him a little bit.

Speaker 1 And I know him.

Speaker 3 I did a thing with him for, I think, National Geographic channel where I played JFK or something. I can't remember.
It was shot all over at that studio.

Speaker 2 Sounds fun.

Speaker 1 Awesome.

Speaker 3 Yeah,

Speaker 3 he's very, very smart.

Speaker 1 Joel, are these Chevy stories? We had him on the show.

Speaker 1 Is it more rumor or was he a bit of a pickle?

Speaker 2 And put it this way, too. I want to think, how did you think about Chevy during the show?

Speaker 3 And now, how do you think about Chevy now?

Speaker 2 Oh, well, you know, I've never asked

Speaker 5 any questions about him. So this is,

Speaker 1 I like it. This is, well, this is SNL related.

Speaker 2 So it's a little bit of a message. I'm going to start with my theory because

Speaker 3 we had him on and I kind of figured him out right before we came on.

Speaker 3 And then it kind of made sense to me that

Speaker 3 he has an impulse to say the thing you're not supposed to say, even if it goes goes territory that you cannot even comprehend, he's going there. But he has an impulse to say to do that.

Speaker 3 So, right before he came on our show, he was at David's house.

Speaker 3 I just sort of went with it and he would do all this shock stuff. And I just started finding it so funny because I saw what he was doing.

Speaker 1 You know, if you're not ready, but

Speaker 3 if you don't get defensive, it's like a swing and a miss. Yeah.
Someone just laughs. You know, we, yeah.

Speaker 5 All that's, I would agree with everything on that plane.

Speaker 2 Uh, okay.

Speaker 5 And and then but you worked with him a lot more than i well like at six in the morning as we're all stumbling in there trying hoping to make our 15 hour day

Speaker 5 uh

Speaker 5 he

Speaker 5 i guess this is a separate thing but i he he didn't want to be there for that long like it was those hours and those that that work was it was too much for the man he didn't want to be there and so we would have to find a way to shoot him out uh and and i'm not Chevy, if you're listening or watching, I don't think you would disagree with any of this.

Speaker 5 And

Speaker 5 he had,

Speaker 5 he was, yeah, the man had a lot going on all the time. And he would, he could definitely

Speaker 5 be disruptive. And he, he, he definitely didn't like it when some people were funnier.
And he kind of lose his mind a little bit. And then,

Speaker 5 you know, he was fired from the show famously.

Speaker 5 And yeah, like we, everyone was like, ah, Phil, yeah, like he's a, he's everything, like when he was good, it was magic. And he's so good.
And he's, if we watch those first few seasons, he's so funny.

Speaker 2 Uh,

Speaker 5 but, you know, the guy, the guy was his own self-sabotager all the time. And would be, yeah, he would always be disruptive and all that stuff.

Speaker 5 So I think in doses like you're saying like if he's throwing out he all he also has he also always had to find if things were going well he would find a way to to slow that down right he would he would throw some wrench in and uh

Speaker 5 and yeah so i yeah i mean that the guy you know he's his reputation precedes him and and uh and i haven't spoken to him since the show ended but i did play him in a movie and i i guess i called him to tell him that uh but uh yeah, I'm sure he's

Speaker 5 yeah, there's that.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 3 That's weird. You play Chevy in a movie after community.

Speaker 5 Very strange. Just someone who does a lot of arms workouts.

Speaker 5 So

Speaker 5 yeah, it's an it's he's always been, yeah, he was always the focus of attention whenever he was in the room.

Speaker 3 All those piccadillos or ticks, whatever you want to call them, we've worked with people in show business where it can be cute and funny, but then if it's actually part of a job, it's a completely different idea.

Speaker 3 Something forget Chevy, just if anybody is actively just being difficult.

Speaker 1 Well, if you don't love coming to work, that's hard. If you get nervous at work, you're going, someone's coming in today and it's going to be tough.

Speaker 1 And you're like, these, these days are so hard anyway, and no one believes it. But if you're in it.
And you know, you're up at six and leaving at 8.30 at night. You're like, we have no life.

Speaker 1 Just get your single camera in a half hour.

Speaker 3 I mean, that's a workload.

Speaker 5 And we shot those shows like they were movies. They weren't shot in a documentary style thing.
So

Speaker 5 none of it was that loose. It was all it was all cinematic.
And we shot those paintball things and

Speaker 5 all those kind of epic looking things for half hour. And, you know,

Speaker 5 we knew Chevy had obviously dealt with things like that before because he was a gigantic movie star

Speaker 5 all through the 80s. But

Speaker 5 yeah, he had. and then, you know, there'll be other times when we'd, you know, physically push each other around.
So that also happened. And

Speaker 3 well, well, well, I, I, I don't know. I mean, you're, I wouldn't want to try to fight you.
I mean, I think you're probably

Speaker 3 one of the strongest guys in Hollywood.

Speaker 5 Don't, don't, don't. Yeah, it was all.
It all, when we look back on it, I'm like, what? That was just mayhem as we were trying to, you know, get this shit made.

Speaker 1 Just do a cute show.

Speaker 5 yeah and uh and then then i have that thing of like people like oh

Speaker 5 there's that thing because during the time it was pre it was it was during the times when you didn't say anything where it was like just keep doing what you're doing because every because it's working and you we didn't want to rock the boat and

Speaker 5 sure so that so we kind of I remember multiple people above us going, yeah, and he's all ours. And, you know, the show was working.
So I, yeah, it was,

Speaker 5 it was, uh, it was.

Speaker 1 You don't want them to say, let's get it.

Speaker 3 We feel the stress is coming over the show.

Speaker 2 I was like, I don't know what, I don't know.

Speaker 5 If I talked to him again, I'm sure he'd be like, fuck you. So I'm like, all right, but he'd probably say that anyway, even if he was in love.

Speaker 3 He might surprise you. I don't know.
But yeah, that's, we've all, I've had experiences like that, Mickey Rooney. But anyway, it doesn't really matter, Mickey Rooney.
But

Speaker 3 God rest his soul.

Speaker 1 But yeah, well, putting it in the the Mickey Rooney sort of analogy.

Speaker 3 I love any podcast that mentions Mickey Rooney. Go ahead.

Speaker 5 He's so happy right now that his name got mentioned.

Speaker 1 Mickey Rooney, number one star in the world, right? Legitimately. Yeah.
Chevy, Time magazine, funniest man in America. And then movie after movie after movie.
Tall, great looking.

Speaker 1 Goldie Hahn said when I saw him, I was like, this is a formidable person. He comes in.
And

Speaker 1 at some point, he's got to feel like I'm on a sitcom or I'm on whatever. And it just, and everyone's getting laughs around him.
And usually they would write that out.

Speaker 1 You know, they would just be like, I'm the guy that scores. And here's the movie around me.
Everyone can be okay. And so there's something to that.
I remember George Siegel.

Speaker 1 I would think that with George Siegel when I was on Just Shoot Me because he's so great.

Speaker 1 And one time he goes, you little fuck, I used to work with Elizabeth Taylor. I go, I know, dude.

Speaker 2 Oh, he was huge.

Speaker 1 He would laugh about it because.

Speaker 1 And he would yell it it to the audience. He'd point to me and go, I used to work with Elizabeth Taylor.
Now I work with this fucking asshole.

Speaker 3 But we had a great story.

Speaker 5 But don't you think that like you

Speaker 1 didn't

Speaker 1 happy about it? He was happy.

Speaker 5 Right. Is that they didn't realize that when everybody's funny,

Speaker 5 that makes everything funny. And that makes the whole thing better.
And rarely,

Speaker 5 like on a show. I don't know.
I'm trying to think of some.

Speaker 5 I don't know, some example of some super funny show. Eight is enough, let's say.
No.

Speaker 5 where they go, oh, everyone was funny on that show except for that one guy. It's like, no, no, no, the whole

Speaker 5 because everyone was scoring, everyone.

Speaker 1 Yeah, straight man for this man, everyone's valuable. And George said, you know, we had all done,

Speaker 1 just shoot me wasn't a magnanimous hit, but it stayed on for seven years.

Speaker 1 We would all, I think what happened, we all had had downtime where it wasn't working for a little bit. So we all were like, hey, we're all lucky to be here.
So it was a lot less fighting.

Speaker 1 I can't remember any, because we thought we know what it's like when it doesn't work. It's not all given.

Speaker 1 You know, if you're on Friends and it's your first show you get and you're a superstar, a worldwide star, you can't even imagine, what if I did a show that didn't work?

Speaker 1 You can't imagine what it's like to just get pilots cancel. So when you've had ups and downs and something works, you go, oh.

Speaker 1 We are lucky. This, let's do not mess this up.

Speaker 2 Yeah. That's probably what we're doing.

Speaker 5 But it sounds like there was nobody on just shoot me that was disruptive, right?

Speaker 1 I'm saying is that you had that, and so you don't want to mess the show up. So you're probably not telling everybody, like, hey, we got to get rid of this.
What can we do?

Speaker 1 Because they might say, this whole show is a problem. Let's just get rid of it.
And you're like, no, I like it.

Speaker 3 I want to be here. Do you think that when Chevy came through with community, like how much it's changed now with live streaming shows?

Speaker 3 Because you'll just see full-blown movie stars, except Tom Cruise, who's one of my favorites,

Speaker 3 doing a live streaming series. And there is no, it's, there's no, it's completely

Speaker 3 accepted. It's not like, oh, what happened to his movie career? No more.

Speaker 2 Those in watching live.

Speaker 5 Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, that's also why like when Snoop and Jamie Foxx and Dwayne Johnson and Ellen all did game shows and that blew away the,

Speaker 5 oh, you don't have to, there's not a tie, you know, like you're in that lane now. It's just all the lanes blurred.
And then, and then all, then the streamers had all the money.

Speaker 5 And and like squid games if uh or squid game if like no one cared they're like oh it's just great we don't and i was like if you told an executive five years ago that a foreign language murder game show drama and kevin costner would be the biggest things on

Speaker 5 tv they'd be like kevin costner and a western i don't think so that's not going to be a hit that westerns are dead it's all science fiction oh and people are not going to read subtitles forget it And then the biggest things on the planet.

Speaker 1 That's part of the fun is that no one knows, can't figure out showbiz. That's part of the, it's part of the crazy lottery.
Like, you go, I could make it overnight. You just don't know.

Speaker 2 It could be in a show blows up.

Speaker 3 There's 5 billion bits of digital information to watch

Speaker 3 right now. globally between YouTube and then all the rest.
So it's 5 billion. So I'm just saying it's different.
That's my point. My thesis is that showbiz has changed.
You can do commercials.

Speaker 3 You can talk about your brand and being in the marketplace with your brand.

Speaker 3 Everyone could do commercials. Everyone could do anything.

Speaker 3 Everyone can do mass singers. Huge hit.
Who would have thought?

Speaker 3 Which you've been on it?

Speaker 5 Yes. Well, yeah.
Ken caught, you know, once again, like they, those guys caught lightning in a bottle. And if you,

Speaker 5 which I, when I was first on that show, I was like, I don't really understand what the rules are. Are we guessing who they are? Or are we telling you, are they good at singing? Is it, which one is it?

Speaker 5 And they were were like, absolutely. And

Speaker 5 how am I saying?

Speaker 2 Are we saying good costume? What are we saying?

Speaker 1 By the way, I like the guesses. It's like,

Speaker 1 is it Lady Gaga? Is it Adele?

Speaker 1 I think it's President Obama. And then they're like, nope, it's Corey Feldman.
And they're like, oh, I knew it.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's a kid from eight is enough.

Speaker 5 That's when, yeah, I, well, they twice.

Speaker 5 They had, yeah.

Speaker 5 But no, it was from,

Speaker 5 they they always throw out those you know, they throw out those crazy guesses big names and then I would and yeah, I would like it just one time to be like oh, it is Prince Harry.

Speaker 2 Holy shit. They got him.

Speaker 1 And Megan Markle, they play like a horse character and she's the front and he's the back.

Speaker 5 And that they pop out.

Speaker 1 That would be great. That would be really good for ratings.
But my mom would say they should do that.

Speaker 2 Why can't they like do that?

Speaker 5 Ken is so like he's that he's like the secret weapon on that show where he's so freaking funny on it and like without I mean everyone's really great and like and Robin like Robin uh thicks his great they had to throw uh his his ear is so good that they have to throw static at him and Nicole Sherwin was here when she was there or he'll they'll they can just listen to a person's voice and they they will point out some obscure singer from like oh that guy's from northern Italy he's a big pop star in Austria and he can both he he and Nicole could decipher that.

Speaker 5 And so they had to throw it. Anyway, and then Ken would just say the funniest thing.

Speaker 2 When I talked to Ross

Speaker 1 on the backstage, he said, I can call right now. You can't sing just by talking to you because I hear your voice.
I was like, wow.

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Speaker 5 You want a fun fact, David Spade? Yeah. Bruce Lee went to the University of Washington, my alma mater.
Where you did?

Speaker 1 Oh my God. Don't make me really

Speaker 5 research.

Speaker 2 Bruce Lee was

Speaker 3 a sinner the dragon last week.

Speaker 5 Oh, did you really?

Speaker 2 Yeah. Do you have any classes with him?

Speaker 5 No, he was much older than me. How dare you?

Speaker 5 Yeah, but when everybody says like, oh, who went to, oh, you went to Harvard? Yeah, like, how many presidents? And I was like, nobody nobody has a better.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I was like, Bruce Lee, name somebody better.

Speaker 1 Name somebody cooler.

Speaker 1 I'm going to jump around here.

Speaker 4 You

Speaker 1 were once quoted as saying, which is a great beginning. Now, when we talk about SNL sometimes in the show, you

Speaker 1 say,

Speaker 1 I think you say, because you're the only one that wouldn't love the cue cards. I love the cue cards.

Speaker 5 Oh, no, bad. I would,

Speaker 5 the, the anxiety that I'm feeling right now.

Speaker 1 Of hearing about it.

Speaker 5 I don't know how, like, I think, well, I was talking to

Speaker 5 who's a hater, Bill Hater, about like, I was like, I don't know how you do it, man. He goes, oh, I'm super dyslexic.
And if they change a single word, I flip out.

Speaker 5 And Stefan, you know, like, obviously that was improvised, which was pretty. incredible.
But no, you got, like, I still to this, when I see,

Speaker 3 like, when I see like people doing the weekend update or those things, that I've gotten so much better at it because of the soup for so many years but that live audience with cue cards flying with multiple people I would be like oh boy here we go well there are a lot of cuts between dress and air and you don't get a chance you're just gonna see it on the card and pretend they yell on the way out it'll be on the cards and you're like on the card and we're skipping that and you just go from here to here so it is crazy but just for a second as it leads into this discussion how many years did you do the soup Because that's another part of your resume.

Speaker 5 Yeah, 12 years.

Speaker 3 Soup's great. And did that break something? That also was kind of fresh.

Speaker 1 Did it ever not do well? I always thought talk soup and the soup would always...

Speaker 3 You could always just.

Speaker 5 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 5 It did not well.

Speaker 2 Really?

Speaker 1 I always thought that I loved it. I thought everyone would like that one.

Speaker 3 I thought it was

Speaker 3 extremely entertaining. No matter whenever you flipped through and you saw it, because it's pop culture and quips.

Speaker 5 Yeah, no, we had a good time, but then I think then in 2015, I

Speaker 5 E was at that point not the most well-organized uh

Speaker 5 uh network on the planet. This is now almost 10 years ago, but uh, they signed me to a new two-year contract in August and then canceled the show in late October.

Speaker 5 And uh, that was great. And, um,

Speaker 5 and they didn't realize my contract was guaranteed. No joke.

Speaker 3 No joke.

Speaker 2 I'm not kidding around here. Oh, no.

Speaker 1 And you got your head.

Speaker 1 I should have just done it.

Speaker 5 But

Speaker 5 it was that time when the waterfall of streaming was just budding into linear television and no one know, you know, television viewing was falling off. Streaming was coming on slowly but surely.

Speaker 5 And they didn't know. They were like, what's the problem? Maybe it's the show's fault.

Speaker 5 and

Speaker 5 that was the they you would always blip man that that kind of brought it into the barn also

Speaker 5 they all we we they had moved our night and and increased the number of repeats and they were always telling us oh no no there were so many people watching there's even more people watching it now and then they canceled like i was like why were why say i was like you're don't try to make me feel better just tell me what's going on and uh

Speaker 5 that yeah so that that went fat was on for 12 freaking years and uh couldn't believe it and i that was one of those cases where i was like well this is what happens you get a television show and it it you know it it's on it works this is how it works right and then you what's so what's so hard nobody gets 12 years nobody gets 12 years does that exist out there is that on hulu or netflix it was soup the soup just uh no because all those clips were news clips that uh so we we just,

Speaker 5 you could use them for free for one week and then you had to pay for them all. And so there's, I was told some, like there's a couple of people that saved, you know, like 400 episodes.

Speaker 5 I was like, I don't know who those people are, but I haven't seen them. It is weird to go back and look at it.
My kids look at me and go, What is happening? What is, what are you doing? Is that you?

Speaker 5 And I'm like, yeah, that's what your dad used to do before he had hair. And

Speaker 1 did you stick with the crew laughing and not an audience?

Speaker 5 We would have, we put out folding chairs for about 20 people because we wanted it to be, we wanted to keep it

Speaker 5 low. And then they, at one point, E wanted to do it daily.
And I was like, we shouldn't do that because

Speaker 5 what if it doesn't work? And

Speaker 5 then it was going to become more of a talk show. And I was like, keep it, let's keep it to just clips.
Way it is. Slightly dirty jokes.
Yeah. And

Speaker 5 yeah. And then they were like, then Daniel Tosh came on and he was such a monster hit.
And

Speaker 5 the E was always like,

Speaker 5 at one point, there was the president who ended up canceling the show. She had this big meeting with me and

Speaker 5 she was like, have you thought about putting clips on from the internet?

Speaker 5 And then

Speaker 5 I go, like we do every week for the last five years.

Speaker 5 And she was like, oh, you do. Okay.
Thank good. All right.
End of meeting. And I was like, she's not even watching the show.
She doesn't.

Speaker 3 Wow. That's a perfect executive.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Don't read. You should be like the show.
Don't listen.

Speaker 3 Just have an opinion.

Speaker 1 Is doing your show. You're like, yeah, we're trying to be like the new show.
That's really our show. Yeah, they're all very blurry.
I mean,

Speaker 1 it's a format that works. And you guys do it, toss to it.
And then they just go, oh, we'll watch the new one, new version and yeah he's fine now rob didrick dear deirdrick has been doing it on

Speaker 2 for forever for sure same thing so let me ask you i'm just curious

Speaker 5 are the you were reading the teleprompter right i was but um it was so it was for the crew the first year

Speaker 5 uh nobody watched and because we were on at 10 o'clock on fridays uh it was a desert and this is you kids listening are watching this there was a time when you could only tune in

Speaker 5 for your show, and you missed it. If that didn't, yeah.

Speaker 5 Uh, and we began to beat a like a rerun of Sex in the City, and they were over the moon. And this show was so cheap at that point that they kept us on.

Speaker 5 Um, but it would take me for 22 minutes of jokes and clips put together, it would take me four and a half hours to finally kind of do it.

Speaker 2 Oh, horrible.

Speaker 5 Oh, there was a crew guy that quit. He was just like, I can't,

Speaker 5 this guy can't read. And that's how we talk.

Speaker 1 We should be in and out in real time.

Speaker 3 This kid can't read. What's happening?

Speaker 5 Of course, we hire somebody who can't read

Speaker 5 to read. And so

Speaker 5 that.

Speaker 5 That lowered, my anxiety lowered as I got better at it. And then I began to not care.

Speaker 5 And we would do the show live.

Speaker 5 And I was like, I would advertise that I had dyslexia. And I'd be like, I don't know what's going to happen.
I can't really read, but we're doing it live. And

Speaker 5 so that, I mean, of course, the best therapy for my dyslexia was doing a live show on television. So

Speaker 5 it was an odd.

Speaker 5 But, but it, anyway, but that's, yeah. So to this day, like, I'm not the greatest reader, but I'm so much more relaxed at it.
And,

Speaker 5 and I just kind of go, you're, it's just going to be a thing. And that's how it is.
And it's not going to, it's, you're, you'll just have to deal, you know, these are, it all worked out. Thank God.

Speaker 5 But

Speaker 5 yeah, when you guys just even, I know going back to it, but when like reading, like if I were to see a cue card with

Speaker 5 like to see all the, like to see two jokes on a card at once and be like, here comes that one, here comes that one. And I know what's coming.
So that means I'm ready to talk to

Speaker 5 whatever that I would be like,

Speaker 3 I would need, yeah, that that's always it was a bit, it's a bit much. I did it recently on SNL, and it was uh, it's a lot.
There's a lot of notes in your head.

Speaker 3 You've got guests and moving, and and introducing, and landing jokes, and yeah, a lot of times there's three jokes in one paragraph, and they're not like delineated.

Speaker 3 It's just, but I do think what's great is like I have two older brothers that are had dyslexia, but it wasn't diagnosed back then.

Speaker 5 No, you just

Speaker 5 called you an idiot.

Speaker 2 You're done.

Speaker 3 Yeah, they were in the red book or the yellow book rather than the blue or green, whatever it, you know, and kind of felt sorry for them, but it was just nothing to do with

Speaker 3 their intellect at all. So it's great that they can go, no, no, this is how your brain works.
It doesn't mean you're not Einstein.

Speaker 5 You know, so it's, yeah, I, I don't, I don't know.

Speaker 5 And then the pressure of, oh,

Speaker 5 so this is a lot, this is the most, you're on the most popular live show of all time. You auditioned to get on this thing.
And then it's like, here's, we'll see how you do.

Speaker 5 If you, if you score in this next 15 seconds, you'll probably get another season or you're just completely off the show. And I that,

Speaker 5 that's like the NFL.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 That's right.

Speaker 5 That, I mean, uh, like, I, I, to this day, like, there are cast members. I'm like, I can't.
Yeah. I mean, you know, you know, but like cast members that got fired.
I'm like, what?

Speaker 5 How did, but they're score. So,

Speaker 5 yeah. Delon, you know, you've been all over this for a lot of many times.

Speaker 3 There's all kinds of reasons why things happen. And some of it is just whimsy and luck.
And then people can last two or three years. And then something, I don't know the how it all really goes.

Speaker 5 I was on Kevin Nealon's podcast.

Speaker 2 And hey, hiking.

Speaker 4 Was he starting just second?

Speaker 2 Anyway,

Speaker 2 we're trying to do a little Kevin Nealon. Hey, Joel.

Speaker 3 Hiking with Kevin. Let's give him a plug.
Hiking with Kevin.

Speaker 5 He's,

Speaker 5 yeah, you, he is. But he was saying that right before, because he had this character, Mr.
Subliminal.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah. And Mr.
Subliminal.

Speaker 5 Yeah. It was like the first time he was doing it.
And he was just about to, and Lauren got behind him.

Speaker 5 Like they're, it's counting down from the commercial. And Lauren just goes, Are you sure this is what you want?

Speaker 5 Yeah, I was like, what?

Speaker 2 And he had a revolver in his hand.

Speaker 5 Like, on top of everything else,

Speaker 5 the creator of the show just kind of fucks with you a little bit.

Speaker 1 And you have to laugh and go, was he serious?

Speaker 3 Part of his sense of humor. I mean,

Speaker 3 his running catchphrase, he walked past in the hallways, still with the show. You know, he just likes to break the tension.

Speaker 3 And between dress and air, he still gives a speech to everyone and kind of we're going on the

Speaker 3 air show and it wasn't a really good dress. And it's like, it'd be like really, like, really good if the show was like funny rather than not funny.

Speaker 3 We have a two-week break and you're going to meet a lot of your relatives and all they'll remember is this show.

Speaker 2 I'll go.

Speaker 3 But that makes me laugh.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Or you say, we had a two-week break.
You're back and it shows

Speaker 1 you took too much time off.

Speaker 5 We got to get.

Speaker 5 Great. Thanks, Coach.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Anyway, let's do a great show.

Speaker 1 Get him.

Speaker 3 Well, he's like, I don't know. I mean, you were an athlete and stuff.
You could have a coach who was, you, you should do that all the time. So I went to state school.

Speaker 3 And then ones who, just in a rare blue moon, would give you a compliment or give you a little nudge, and it meant a lot more.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah.

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Speaker 3 So what was the sport you were best at? I know you played football and you also.

Speaker 5 Well, I walked on to the University of Washington football team. So I, that

Speaker 5 was, I was way out of my league.

Speaker 5 Talk about being, I could not have been worse,

Speaker 5 but they kept me on because I was was i was really good at skit night and uh they loved me on skit night so they i became like a mascot but they

Speaker 5 that was the most that was most terrifying i'd ever been a part of but at the same time most fun uh but if i had to pick if uh i was really i was good basketball player and uh

Speaker 5 yeah i i there was i was a uh pitcher my freshman year of high school and i quit that uh but i guess triple threat

Speaker 5 Oh, no. Yeah.
I played, I played darts. I mean, I played every,

Speaker 5 I like to blame my ADHD, but I just wanted to chase a ball or throw something as that's all I wanted to do as a child.

Speaker 5 But right now, like now, all I do is play tennis. If

Speaker 5 I remember playing freshman year football in high school and the coach was like,

Speaker 5 See those guys playing tennis? They're all training to be old men. And he was like, and we can play football.
And everyone's like, yeah. And now I'm like, hey, probably should have stuck with tennis.

Speaker 5 Yeah. That would have been a little bit better.
But I, uh, if I don't exercise, I get, ask my wife, I get very agitated. And it's, I think it's the, my best form of therapy.
That and red wine.

Speaker 5 Uh, so, uh, yeah, no, I, I, I, I now have this relationship with the University of Washington where they, it's been because of like being in Hollywood, they've uh, not because of the records I set, I get to kind of do team events sometimes.

Speaker 5 And now I'm still friends with a lot of the players, but uh, from the uh, the old guys, so I now I'm like, I can't believe my good fortune. Like, they, they were, they didn't kill me.

Speaker 5 Uh, but that our coach, Don James, who was not a yeller in any way, he would be, he was always quiet.

Speaker 5 And he, even in practice, he kind of stood in in this booth and directed things like a conductor very quietly.

Speaker 5 And when he would say something, like, that was, he would be literally just go, that was good. I'd be like,

Speaker 5 Coach James thought I was good. And, uh, but yeah, we are also, yeah.
So he, he, he was, uh, continues to be one of the most legendary coaches of all college football. And, uh,

Speaker 5 yeah, yeah, I can't believe it. And then when I saw him years later, I was like, hey, coach.

Speaker 5 And he was like, oh, hey and i was like you remember and because it's a the walk-on programs at these colleges were we were cannon fodder to make the uh to make the scholarship players you know look better keep them yes that basically keep them keep them in shape that's my long yeah winded we got a clip explanation i loved hearing about that i was uh tracking you know distance running in high school and we do intervals you sprint a lap around the track rest for a minute, sprint a lap.

Speaker 3 And by the eighth one, which was the last one, the coach would always say, gentlemen, blood, gut, and hair.

Speaker 3 And we never knew what the hair part was, you know, we just thought blood and guts, but blood, gut, and hair.

Speaker 4 Your hair falls.

Speaker 3 No, I don't know what it meant to this day. I'm asking, and you guys don't know.
So clearly, still haven't figured it out. Lauren Lansbury was his name.
He was a brilliant coach.

Speaker 3 Trained the shit out of us.

Speaker 5 I remember in Blair Witch Project when they just found the teeth and the hair, and that was more terrifying than finding a hand.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 I think that's a good connection. Yeah.
It worked. I mean, we just got scared when we heard that.

Speaker 1 But anyway, Dane, anything left for Joel?

Speaker 5 He's wait, David, did you play? David, did you play sports?

Speaker 1 Joel, listen,

Speaker 1 I'm not on trial here. No, I was a skateboarder.
I did play baseball. I did play all of them, baseball, basketball, and football until it got got too rough.
Like,

Speaker 1 I think I was good enough in baseball until sophomore year in high school, got cut, never went back.

Speaker 1 Football, I tried out sophomore year, got annihilated, and the coach treated me like I was Lucas and said, Maybe this isn't for you.

Speaker 1 And then basketball, yeah, you could figure that one out. It was fun to play like intermural stuff.
And then I did. I wasn't bad.
It just at a certain point, you're not going to do anything. Did you?

Speaker 1 I was probably as good as Bronny.

Speaker 4 Wait. wait

Speaker 3 oh i root for bronnie

Speaker 1 no take the other side anybody wait who's brawny lebron lebron james son i see yes

Speaker 5 david did you see that it came out like five years ago they studied skateboarders and about how it teaches independence because you're teaching yourself something a lot of the time.

Speaker 1 And it's not really a team, but you're, it teaches true independence and uh and um to to be out on your own and to be aware of your surroundings and well it's a good game to do on your own like when i you just get your skateboard in arizona and skate around you don't need to find a football game you don't need to find someone to play basketball with you just go hey i'm gonna go skate and then you go to a pool or somewhere and and there's other dirt balls there and you just skate around so it's kind of fun and my parents are gone in the day so i would just skate and uh try to get better but i did really like it.

Speaker 1 There was definitely a skater mentality, a bunch of dudes that were doing that, and uh, some were burnouts and stuff.

Speaker 1 But we weren't gonna be in the football team, so there's different factions, you know. Yeah, I was a skater, but uh, I'm glad you brought that up because it's good on the quads.

Speaker 1 That's the reason I have good quads, I don't show them a lot because people would go fucking nuts.

Speaker 2 So,

Speaker 3 you're still maintaining them then, somehow.

Speaker 5 If we ever do this again, we're gonna have to talk about truck restoration, David.

Speaker 1 oh yeah that's right we uh

Speaker 5 dana we have a mutual truck restorer brian corsetti who uh

Speaker 1 you're into

Speaker 5 i'm into land cruisers and you're into scouts well scout i have land cruisers as well because i'm rich motherfucker yeah so thank you truck specific or suv scouts look cool dude I have an International Scout and a 1970 Land Cruiser and a 1990 Land Cruiser.

Speaker 2 Cool. All the way.
I like all that. All look cool.

Speaker 1 I'm looking at 70s trucks now. That's all my Instagram feed.

Speaker 5 That's me too. Come on.

Speaker 3 Are you guys going to get a Tesla truck?

Speaker 2 I mean, come on, man. Come on, man.
Oh, no.

Speaker 5 They're so cool looking. They don't look like they're from that video game Dig Doug at all.

Speaker 1 You're going to get a Dig Doug truck?

Speaker 1 I love Elon.

Speaker 1 I think they're working out the bugs, though. I'm not ready for a Tesla truck.
Plus, I'm too puncy.

Speaker 5 They're fucking magnanimous I saw one the other day I walked by it's like a tank well I would lancer go ahead yeah Lancer I would valet in one of those and just they'd say name on the for the car and I'd say I'm Batman and go right into Koi you're not gonna get in the Beverly Center with does it seem like it's a Batman vehicle I mean it's pretty cool they I've seen them blacked out I would worry the valet would accidentally impale himself on one of the corners and sue you because they're like, what happened?

Speaker 1 I bled out from I know they got you got they come with bactene. Thank God

Speaker 1 bactene is back. All right.
Thanks.

Speaker 5 Thank you for having me.

Speaker 5 I held back on saying how giddy I was to talk to you guys because I uh you're uh my heroes. So that's it.
Okay.

Speaker 2 I'm leaving. We we worked.
Thank you.

Speaker 3 We worked on things. We've seen you around.
So

Speaker 5 you guys no idea how excited I was to do this. And my wife was like, well, that's a good one.
And I was like, wait, it's not like the other ones are bad. And she was like, oh, that's.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they are.

Speaker 5 She said, please say hi. And she's never married.

Speaker 1 Say hello. And thanks, buddy.
I'll see you around. Thanks, Joel.

Speaker 3 Animal control.

Speaker 2 Animal control.

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Speaker 7 Fly in the Wall is executive and produced by Dana Carvey and David Spade, Jenna Weiss-Berman of Odyssey, and Heather Santoro. The show's lead producer is Greg Holtzman.