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And it also referenced the movie of our guest, Kyle Mooney, did a feature film called Y2K, where he kind of reenacts the styles, the telephones, the media, what was the web like then, everything. It plays on the fears we all had when it was turning from 1999 to 2000.
And the word on the street was computers wouldn't understand that. And they would all shut down at the same time.
And what would we do? I do know someone that went toaii thinking that was like a deserted island and saying i'm just going to go to hawaii like by the hawaii is like going to you know boston it's the same big buildings lots of electricity it's got a best buy and a house so they weren't really escaping uh you know yeah i don't know i'm saying so yeah so he's an interesting guy was on snl and for nine seasons yes nine monster seasons and he had a lot we talked a lot about that we talked about his movie and he also did sketches before that he does a lot of improv he's actually a very interesting character he's not just sort of a run-of-the-mill uh comic or improver he's got a lot of smart guy dry quirky uh good neighbor was first time i saw him on youtube we talk all about that and how he sort of adapted his style of comedy to the rock and roll sporting type event that saturday night live is that was very interesting to me and he wrote and directed this movie for a24 so yeah and it's you know snl's a little more to the to the world and not just specifically to like a sliver of an interesting like improv group you know you can get away with more just if you're like a hardcore comedy fan on some things and then sometimes you go to snl and you've got to broaden it just a little bit even though snl does praise very weird bits you know what i mean very different yeah with the live show on the sound stage and stuff sometimes some sketches are more performative there's a word and some are writer driven uh they do more films now um or videos and stuff so you can be a little quirkier drier and stuff like that but he had a great run he has a lot of fans he has his own his own lane of comedy his own yeah style uh and this is a horror comedy. So I'm sure it's going to be.
Horror. Horror.
Horror. Horror is the hardest word.
Horror is the hardest word. And if you say it to a loved one and it comes out wrong, you're in the doghouse for a week.
Honey, do you want to go see that horror film? And if she didn't't get the er part it's as bad as saying does this place have any booths does your restaurant have booths yeah booths what do you say dana booths or booths i went to a horror film and before that we went to a restaurant and sat in the booths. And it was February.
February. And we went and we watched clips of the movie interstitially.
Everybody sounds drunk when they say these words. I went to a horror film and sat in some booze.
It's either Tom Brokaw or a very inebriated gentleman. Well, here he is.
So you're going to like Kyle Mooney. Kyle Mooney.
Have a good time with him. Enjoy him.
I made a mistake. The last show, SNL, Lauren, during the meeting, he's on the stage.
He goes, Dana, you look like you're reading the cards. Did he really? And I said, the reason I look like I'm reading the cards is because I am reading the cards.
Yeah, King Tut. Stay out of my business.
You know, on SNL. I was there, Dan.
I saw it. I saw it in real life.
And that was truly the exact interaction. It was because the card was moving to when they had a single on me and moving back to the double.
So that was a little bit. I wasn't used to that.
This is inside baseball, Kyle. I'm just saying we fuck up a lot.
Don't know what we're doing, but you direct movies, you create art. I don't know.
We're kind of, we're so excited to have you on here because I just love, I was trying to figure out your sense of humor. I'm like, what, what, why is it so potent? You know? Yeah.
You want me to try to answer that? No, Kyle. I was i don't know if you could dana doesn't sound serious because he's eating chips or something it doesn't sound like the most serious he goes you're one of the best it relaxes the guest it says the world is hanging out eating the more it's exactly what i do with my pals it's always somebody chewing something and then like asking a pretty sincere uh vague question i would say yeah very it's a very you're potent describe your potency um um yeah it's uh kind of a well at least when i first got to know you is through through my kids it was Good Neighbor.
It was like, you got to see this guy and your gang doing that stuff. And the man on the street.
And so playing it so flat real, almost kind of Andy Kaufman-y, but not, I'm not sure. It's your own lane.
But it was very, it's such a skill. That's know that's very sweet i really appreciate and i do remember i i feel like at the 40th maybe i met you and i said the same thing you had very nice thing to say and and it was super meaningful so i do i do appreciate it well i mean i'm kind of like a show butter out there i'm like a i'm a neat little clown i'm dancing for my donuts isn't that by the way i'm around you know so when i see other people going on like a rock and roll show like snl and going in their own frequency and lane um it's just very interesting and it it i just i don't you know comedians like uh like the person outside the uh boundaries kind of like, you're just sort of doing your own thing.
But anyway, I'm sure everyone has said this to you and spoken to you. No, I mean, again, it, it, it truly does.
Anyway, you say that it sounds very nice to me because you guys are heroes. So it's, it's, it's really awesome to hear that.
I think like the challenge of course is like, how do you fit whatever you want to call that? If you want to call it subversiveness or just, or like you said, subtlety, like how do you package that in a way that works for the show? You know? Right. Well, sometimes it's too far out of bounds.
That's a problem. You know, you want but you and you want to be innovative i do think that like early on i was probably trying to do too much of exactly what i was doing on on youtube and on on our internet videos i i think over time i was able to sort of like uh better manipulate it so that like it was it maybe fit more in sort of a consumable box.
You know what I mean? And that was the fascinating thing. I think for me, I think always was like just I'm sure this goes with everybody.
And so many people have said this, but just like what hits and what doesn't, sometimes that stuff would play and like we did a couple of those internet uh interview videos and and they did they did work well but some of the stuff is just is too non-jokey and too dry or something for the audience and it just is it gets nothing well that is the great thing about Good Neighbor is you guys were like pirates doing your own thing. Like you just make your little pieces of work and you put them on YouTube.
But yeah, to SNL, I think it happens to anybody, whatever their sensibility, but the audience discovering you on SNL happened over a period of time. So they knew your kind of vibe and they would start to just be happy when they'd see you.
Right. At some point you got.
I think so. And well, yeah, I mean, I, I feel like, yes, you do.
I did start to notice it. And definitely, I feel like it was in probably the latter half of, of my time there.
I remember there was a monologue. I did, I did a, aapper.
He had a monologue and we both, it was a rap written by Dan Bola about It's always Bola. Yeah, exactly.
It's always Bola. It was about Chicago and the second city and it was Chance said like ladies and gentlemen, Kyle Mooney or something like that.
And there was like an applause and like a sense of recognition, even though I'd already been on the show, but it still felt like, Oh, okay. You do, you do know me to some degree.
And that was really special. And even when I, you know, I was back a couple of weeks ago and I saw you Dana, like they were, the audience was very sweet.
And so at some point it happens, I happens I don't it's sort of invisible I don't know if you know when that moment is um but it is absolutely comforting for sure it's super nice I mean you came out on on during the monologue and then there's just this roar you know it's just like a and I you know for me people always say thing. Are you a fan of this person or fan of that person?

If I see someone on TV and they make me laugh really hard, only one time, I would call myself a fan. Oh, yeah.
So if you're doing it multiple times over nine years. Most people never make you laugh.
Yeah. I mean, for comedians.
you know i feel i mean like and i'm not this is not me trying to uh go ahead turn this conversation

into promotion for the movie we're putting out no we definitely want to talk about the movie we don't have to okay we have we have no outline and no so let's just go wherever anything else other than the movie go ahead i will i mean i will say okay it's called y2k friday december 6th is when it comes out. It's about two high schoolers going to a party in 99 and Y2K actually happening.
But what I was going to say was that like, I think there are laughs in it. And I've obviously been to screenings of it.
And there are moments that get laughs. And to me, I feel the same way.
I feel like if I go to a comedy movie and I laugh hard once, that is a win. It's such a fucking miracle.
It's so funny you say that because I can watch, you can watch things and people nod and they go, that was pretty funny. And you go, you didn't even laugh.
You go, no, it's good. Or you pitch a joke at like read through or like, you know, rewrites and they go, yeah, that'll work.

And I go, wait a second.

Nobody laughed.

You didn't respond at all.

Yeah.

I just go, it'll work for who?

The others?

The cattle?

That's true though.

One laugh.

If you can get like a trailer with, like, I remember this is an example of just Schneider doing Deuce Bigelow.

He was upside down.

You remember that?

And he swings on like a upside down thing, the stretch. Oh, I don't fucking put it in the trailer don't ruin the movie anyway he gets a big laugh that sold the whole movie because you go oh that made me laugh that's the kind of movie it is it's goofy and off the wall but it's hard to even get one laugh so i get what you're saying you get if someone makes you laugh, now you're in.
They crack the code. Now you go, okay, I'll pay attention now.
Yes. And speaking to what you're talking about, like, yeah, pitching something and it sort of being like, yeah, yeah.
I mean, I think you nailed it. And I feel like so many of us have probably experienced that in any sort of comedy writing room when, like, you're talking to somebody like, yeah, man, funny.
It's funny. Just like saying the word funny,

but like, yeah, not eliciting any response.

It's very real and something that happens quite often.

Let me ask you a question.

I like, so you wrote and directed.

Yeah, I co-wrote it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, my friend Evan, who I went to college with.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

The USC gang.

Yeah.

Beck Bennett.

Yep. Beck does a voice in it yeah yeah what what is it about because i know why for those of the the kids that don't know y2k was a big deal it was a big scary deal yeah is it a scary movie or is it comedy scary or is it not like that i i think comedy scary is an apt descriptor i would say yeah it sounds so dumb no i it is the first time i've heard anyone say that i think horror and comedy go together beautifully uh they're hard to weave but i mean it it starts out as like i would say attempting to be a pretty classic iconic teen movie coming coming of age movie comedy in the realm of- Fun movie, we got a big party to go to.
Super bad, exactly, yes. Yeah, I mean, like we were really- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
There were so many movies in that era that came out that were sort of directed to teens a la Can't Hardly Wait, or even the John Hughes movies. Sure, sure, sure.
And then, yeah, at midnight, things, you know things you know again Y2K actually happens machines come together and these robots start terrorizing these kids essentially it's what we all thought there's a slim chance that could happen not a slim people were saying it's for sure happening yeah no my mom was scared for sure yeah someone I know went to an island I'm like what are you gonna Harvest coconuts? Do you really want to be alive when everything goes south? Like, why does everyone want to be alive? And it was going to be, it's supposed to be like chaos, right? Like the purge or something. Computers can't understand going to double zero or something.
Yeah. And it will all crash.
But it was fine. It was fully nothing.
And it's unreal that that it was nothing because I really made sense what was going to happen. Computers don't understand.
They don't understand. We only made them to 99.
They don't know what to do. I didn't know they were going to attack us like your movie, but they did say they might not work.
So the movie is in theaters right now, by the way. Yeah.
As we maybe somebody maybe somebody's seen it that's listening and i want to say thank you if you made it out that uh that really is very cool of you thank you i think i was just curious about in the the writing of it it sounds fun that you're starting out with a 90s comedy and just having all the kind of either tropes or cliches or just having fun with it. Right.
It's just like this big. So I just want to know how your mind thinks when you're writing, because I would think you're like there's there's jokes that are like more hard, simple laughs.
If someone falls down, that kind of thing, then there's dry, weird things that go places you don't expect. And then there's the ones that are so off kilter that people who get them bond over them, you know? Yeah.
That they don't necessarily kill, but friends will quote them to each other for long periods of time. Anyway, that seems to be, I mean, how much of the process of writing, do you get a big bulletin board and you're starting to put up ideas for scenes, kind of like SNL, or how did this one come about? I yeah, initially it was just truly the seed of the idea.
I woke up on new year's day, 2019 hungover and, and just that, that first like little concept of like, Oh, there should be a movie about teens going to a party and like Y2K happens. Machines come, come to get them.
I pitched pitched it to my friend evan who's a very talented screenwriter and filmmaker we started riffing on it and and within a week we had essentially the building blocks for for what the movie is and what it would be um and yeah i think the process was super fun i think for of reasons. One, like the movie follows essentially these teenagers and they all represent different cliques of the era.
So there's like a rap rocker. There's like the popular girl.
There is the sort of our lead who doesn't really fit in anywhere. There's like a kid who's really obsessed with underground hip-hop um and one it was like fun i mean because i am because i perform as well like i get to sort of inhabit these characters in the writing process and and sort of riff in their voice what are you what am i in real life who am i in the movie in the in the movie i play a, I play a video store clerk.
I wanted to be in it, but I knew I couldn't be a proper teenager. But in the writing process, I feel like I'm taking over these characters to some degree.
That's interesting because I would do it the exact same way. I wrote a script with a friend called idiots and monsters.
And it's, you know, uh, that combination. And, uh, I would just get into the characters and just riff.
And he was really fast with typing and stuff. Yeah.
It's a, it's a good way to do it. Um, it's great.
And then, and then the other component is like, yeah, I was 15 in 99. Evan was 14.
And like, like you were saying in terms of the gags and the jokes, there are some like pretty. Yeah.
Classic standard visual gags. But then there are like also very specific references to the era that I think like it, you won't understand really if you were alive.
And then there's, I hate to say actually don't even want to say it but i'll awkward humor uh which um i get uh boner jokes there is definitely a boner joke good oh now you got one ticket right over there david phineas spade did you say say there's a babe that everyone loves? Isn't that usually in

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over and she doesn't talk to you until this party?

That is Rachel

Zegler as Laura in our film. Yeah.

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do you kind of have that sort of story element in this one too or is it more just a balls out comedy or is there a sort of a uh a sweetness or something to the how it ties up or or condo give away the movie before people see it yeah just tell the ending I mean, yeah, there's definitely.

Yeah, it's weird that I don't want to be the person saying this but yes i think that there is heart to it and like it's essentially really about two best friends and about their friendship and that person that like means so much to you in high school and and that sort of uh carries through the entire movie and there's um some sort of intense drama associated with it within the movie but yeah i mean like i i love making briggsie bear and it definitely like maybe leans into quote unquote dramedy territory or something like that but that is something that is exciting to me and with this movie like we're certainly going for laughs. We're also going for scares.
But there are moments of attempting to tug at your heartstrings. Whether we're successful about it, I don't know.
But absolutely, there is a layer of that. Yeah.
it is it is interesting the uh you can go on youtube and stuff and look at like how do you

how do you someone's in a shower and they open the curtain and what's the exact cutting and angle to scare to scare you but i assume you had a director of photography that would sort of say okay here this guy should pop out here we don't see it we cut there i mean it's it seems fun i mean i think those kinds of things are just just exciting

to to land through absolutely well yeah our dp was uh a guy by the name of bill pope who's who is sort of a legend uh in his field he shot the matrix he shot clueless uh he shot um all the Edgar Wright movies.

So like, yeah, he's...

Shot the sheriff.

But he did not shoot the deputy.

No, no. He shot all the Edgar Wright movies.
So like, yeah, he's-

Shot the sheriff.

But he did not shoot the deputy.

No, no, no.

That was a big misunderstanding.

What about A24 you're putting it out with?

That's a big company.

You're dialed in.

Oh, I really appreciate that, David.

Listen, that's a big deal.

No, you're doing what everybody I talk to, when I always do my,

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No, you're doing what everybody I talk to, and I always do my, if you had 300 million net, what would you do? Writers who write movies for studios and stuff. Every single one says, oh, low budget indies, you know, lower budgeted indies with total control.
Yeah, yeah, A24 has been truly awesome and and kind of unlike any studio or company i've ever worked with in in the sense that they just are very good at branding and marketing and and putting it out there it's been it's it's been pretty impressive to see how they've sort of um attached themselves to it. And I think got taken out the things that potentially could pull people to the theaters.
It's been a cool thing to observe. You know what? Attach themselves is better than saying they're running from it.
And there were moments where it felt like maybe they would or could. No, they're sort of, They seem to the average guy like me that's in the biz barely that they are pretty selective and they don't do that much.

Yeah, they do.

They do good, cool things.

That's good to get in with that.

Paul Thomas Anderson does a lot of stuff with them.

So when I saw this, even before I knew you were going to come on our show,

I thought, oh, that's cool.

Kyle, Mooney, and A24.

I just thought it sounded like a good combo that they would be smart about

letting it be you do your thing, hopefully.

And it would be good.

Did you finance it independently and then get with A24?

You got with them and they were part of the financing and that's how you made it?

Or was it a two-step process?

No, they, there from the top. Initially, when we had the early iterations of the script, Chris Storr, who created The Bear and is a director and producer, came on to produce.
And then later on, Jonah Hill's company strong baby came on and about that same time a a 24 came into the fold and and then like once we did like a couple passes but truly it was it was one of those situations where once they were involved things moved fast in a way that feels like very unique like i i didn't i didn't think that it was one of those situations where once they were involved, things moved fast in a way that feels like very unique. Like I didn't, I didn't think that it was going to happen as quickly as it did.
And, and it did. And, and I, I truly feel blessed.
Yeah. Do you know why it's called a 24? I do.
I feel like I read, read once, but I'm curious. It's because when you, when you look up a production company in the phone book, they put an A in front of it.
So then you, you'll call them first. You know what I mean? Dana, like in the old days in the yellow pages, they put a, a, a electrician.
And then that's why you call them first. Cause it's the first one you see alphabetically.
It might be. Do Now, do you think that.
Do you really think they're angling for the phone company? Would that translate to Fox? Am I trying to back out of this joke? This is what they did. I'm not saying it was.
No, I'm saying this is 100% fact that they want to be in the white pages. They want to be.
I know we're doing a fun podcast and everything, but I'm not following you, David. No, that's such a good one, and it just fucking comes.
No, it's not that. No, no, I like that.
Take it to the rewrite table. It's called an urban myth.
But anyway, we'll get through the inside baseball, but how many days shoot did you get? Yeah, 23. I'm going to guess 20.
Okay. Why?

Did you say 23?

No.

Well, Dana, do you want to guess or no?

Yeah, I'm going to guess.

I'm going to guess.

Say 23.

Because 824 is a pretty big outfit and Kyle likes to spend money.

Yeah, he likes to blow through money.

At least that's what Beck told me.

I'm going to, for fun, I'll say 32.

Jesus.

And now I feel like I need, it was. 16.
It was, I think it was about 30 days. It was, yeah.
I was going to switch mine to 29. I swear to God, I was going to switch.
It was like six weeks. Yeah.
Oh no. Cause I think Busboys is 24.
David's doing an indie film. We're doing indie right now.
Yeah. Cool.
Pizza Hut is producing it. I know all the lingo.
Pizza Hut's in a collab. I feel like they did some early Ninja Turtles stuff.
God, they should have. A24 didn't like his pitch.
I should have pitched it to them. We didn't want to pitch to anyone.
We're worse. I could definitely intro you to some folks, man.
But he's going right into what you just did. Yeah, we're doing it.
We're doing January. That's great.
Yeah. Well, ours is called Y2J.
That's good. That works for the phone book thing.
So yeah. Ours is called AY2J.
What is that? Is that lubricant Y2K2k k y jelly k y2k if i do a production company it's gonna be called ky jelly okay dot com okay dot com okay dot orgasm so in the fantasy world because this this is uh i'm assuming you basically love, you love the experience. Usually movies suck and there's too many chefs or there are long, hard shoots or someone drops out.
I mean, so this sounds like just a pretty good experience in making this film. I would say, yeah, I would say so.
I mean, again, I had my friend Evan with me throughout the process. And so like, I don't feel, I felt more like a collaboration than just me.
I didn't feel like the pressure was all on me. Again, we had Bill Pope, we had these incredible artisans.
Did Evan do Briggspeed Bear? Who directed that? That was directed by my friend, Dave McCary, who I actually have known since I was in fifth grade.

And he directed videos at the show for about five seasons, I want to say. But yeah, I mean, like with anything, I think we started writing in 2019.
We shot the movie in the spring of summer of 2023. And now it's out.
there's there's always like gonna be there were moments of doubts and and and frustration for sure but overall it's been an incredible experience and i like it and like that's i feel like a pretty important component is that i do feel like it's pretty good people don't get how to go from writing to pitching to writing it can it's just like a sketch it can all be good and then suddenly the edit looks wrong and you're like what fucking happened it's absolutely you're doing that best you can and it just somehow does not cut together every script at some point i don't know what page number say you're trying to get to 90 pages for a low budget comedy and you get to 40 or 45 and then there's just all this it there's a part a part where it gets really hard at least my experience well that's why i yeah i always link with somebody who i know is going to be better at that than me you know what i mean like uh and and evan is really great at that and in briggs i wrote it with wrote, I've written with Evan and Kevin. And like, they, I feel like they're just very good at structure and like kind of leaning into like what the character payoffs and, and, and the arc and all of that in a way that like, I wouldn't say it's my forte per se.
So like, uh, it's good to have somebody like that to lean on. when do it i just bark out funny ideas and i go somebody write it down yeah well i think and so many people do that at snl too i think you know what i mean don't they take notes of just the rewrite table of just people talking in case they come up with something funny i've heard they transcribe is that crazy i'm sure i'm sure they do i mean like someone's just taking down while you're talking in case you run into something and they read it back no that was funny you're talking about at snl yeah you didn't experience this though you think this is happening now no we had no court reporters we had low budget but i feel like i've heard that about something and they go, oh, read it back.
And I'm like, oh, someone reads it back. Maybe it's during pitches or something.

When I was there, there are definitely people that are taking notes during the pitches for sure.

Oh, okay.

At rewrites, I don't remember anybody writing what was being said, but I was personally writing it down.

I feel like you're hearing pitches from everybody else, and I'm making notes on my script of like, okay, that's a good move. Is Rewrite Table still on where the old read-through was? It's an 8H.
Rewrite Table is? Oh, not Rewrite. Rewrite's up, yeah, but the actual read-through is an 8H.
Read-through is moved, but but rewrites is still up on 17 no no oh well it's on both there's they actually do when i was there at least it was on 17 and 9 so the there was the office on 9 that sort of overlooks the stage i don't know if you know the one i'm referring to currently like it's it's been it's byuren's office uh on on nine and then they also have a rewrite table on 17 they got two going are you mad no i'm yeah it's it's a model it's as mad as i get i'm like it doesn't affect me at all i should probably get mad about this you know i got i got tweaked i got tweaked because I saw some of the dressing rooms, you know, and I just had a couch and a sink. But the dressing rooms on 8H and up on 9, they're like, there's Christmas lights, there's jukeboxes, there's refrigerators.
Yeah. So when you left, who? 80, Kate, and Pete left when you left.
Oh, you guys all together. Did you convince them all to leave with you or did you.
Blood pack. I feel like, I mean, I, yeah, I don't know how it felt for you guys.
Beck left the season prior, my eighth season, his eighth season. Your buddy from USC.
Yeah. yeah you feel weird hang dangling out there without him i well that that season that he left was like the quote unquote i guess you you could call it the covet year it was like yeah we had done the the year prior ended with covet so we did those at home shows that season, which I guess was maybe 2020, going into 2021, um, was the first year where like, yeah, table read was moved to eight H it was super spread out.
We were testing every day and, uh, each person was, you didn't share an office with anybody. Everybody had their own individual space and every, their own individual dressing room.
And like initially the audience, audiences were really sparse. It was like only like, you know, first responders and there would be like, whatever, 30 people max or something like that in the studio.
So that didn't, I feel like Beck left that season. I think some of us, and I feel like AD for sure said this, was like, I would like to experience one more year that's closer to the traditional version of it.
So yeah, I don't know what our conversation was at the top of that season, but I do think that I had a sense that most of those folks are probably going to go. So you didn't say gonna go or would anyone make you stay would anything change your mind or were you just like you talked about it with the family like i think i'm done after this my what was my like my personal like reasonings i mean just had a good run and well nine nine years yeah it's too much yeah it's a good run that's i mean it pretty much came down to yes i feel like at that point my close friends had left i had pretty much done what i was capable of doing you know what i mean i don't know that i had a ton of new moves left um i feel like if the moment to like break out further was gonna come i don't know how that would have transpired um so like there was that component and then yeah there was obviously just that amount of time that's a long period to be in that environment and then i just got married and we wanted to start a family yeah oh yeah so the family took oh family that was definitely that's definitely what i told lauren like i want to have a family man and he's like oh and i understand i understand where your family well is there you know because i'm i'm around there now and young cast members and stuff and so even during the summer you're thinking about what's going to happen when you go in there and maybe there's new cast members coming and going and then so there's this this emotional weight even i think kate mcginnan said it was just she got kind of just exhausted to a point oh yeah just needed to get away from well it's it's unhealthy i feel like you guys talk about this all you we must all agree that it's not a healthy place to be.
There's no air in there. It's like, aside from everything else.
I was going for that, but you beat me to it. I want to say that a producer over there, I'm pretty sure it's Eric Kenward who said this at some point.
He's like, in whatever, like in whatever 20 30 40 years there might be some sort of study about like ptsd associated with people who worked at that show because it is such an intense onslaught and like yeah there it's it's definitely not good for you there's no way it is i mean it is in terms of like what it teaches you and the fact that you have this massive platform but you you get what i'm saying well being unprepared and going on live and it'll be in the cards and seeing the writers trying to fit the puzzle and you go and and your friends see it or family members and critique it yeah it is it's just different than anything else i think what didn't chris rock say to you or somebody like if you can do snl if you can produce your own sketch and land it and go through that then you can direct films you you have some sort of armor emotionally on you nothing frazzles you because everything is last second on us you know and well you become you definitely become way less precious about your work all of a sudden or one you have to turn around something every week right you i think that was like that's the hardest part one of the most and for me that was one of the most profound things that i took from it was like prior to working there i would like make stuff or write stuff when I was inspired. And that could take, you know, a couple months, like, okay, now I got an idea.
I want to pursue this thing. Now you're in a situation where you like, you have to come up with something every week to have a chance to be on TV, essentially.
And for me, it was like, surprising that I found out that I could write something that I was okay with each each week not not that it necessarily ended up on the show or that it was brilliant but at least something i was like this is decent enough you have to run with a wispy idea you're like okay i just finished the show i wake up from the just got back from the party monday morning you're sobered up what are you doing what do you? What is your long thought out sketch with all the beats? And you're like, it's nothing. I have nothing.
I don't even know. Right.
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And so you'd have a character with a catchphrase and then it gave you a baseline.

So what were your you had some reoccurring ones that would come back on update or in sketches or did you land many of those that you could then go, oh, I'll do this character this week?

You know, I mean, certainly never anything like iconic that people are like, oh, Kyle's bringing Dr. Ding Dong back.
It's so good. That actually, I'm going to pitch that.
Fucking please. Dr.
Ding Dong. And I'm just going to see if that can land.
That's, that's comedy writing.

And Kyle,

we're going to do a, a,

a ding dong with a Fallon this way.

And then,

and then eventually we'll get a dong from Kyle.

Maybe hold it for Margot Robbie.

That'd be fun.

Um,

yeah,

I had a few,

like probably,

but towards the end on update,

I did like,

I was doing baby Yoda.

Uh,

and I got to do that a few times and that was fun. and there were a couple video pieces that we sort of would uh return to i don't think i don't know if i can really remember a time where like the show was asking for me to like you gotta do maybe maybe there are a couple instances where like you should Right, like one of these sitcom parodies this week yeah baby yoda former child star yes yep it's been a while since i've seen baby yoga hit the headlines baby yeah they're probably deep on uh whatever mandalorian season something i think they're making a movie baby yoda had a run.
Did that happen during the, I don't know what, 2010 to 20, but Tina, what they're called. They're not the knots, the secondary knots.
I don't know. But being fanciful, I know Tina Fey early on in this, mentioned Bowen Yang's iceberg character.
And then I see people like Sarah doing very fanciful costumes and you know headgear like I'm Manhattan and there's a city on your head which I love I love it it just yeah um I think that was a stylistic thing that wasn't as big when I was there initially but I saw that come up and it's it's really makes me laugh it's funny yeah I mean I yes I I love uh uh what all those people i mean like sarah is such a good example of like someone who i i knew prior to her i i knew her work prior to her being on the show and like yeah yeah um and she's the same person doing essentially a version of what she was doing then. And I think exaggerated and like perfectly for the show.
It's good for the show. I think that fits right.
I mean, if she gets it, sometimes it may be too far out for the show. But when I saw that squirrel one and it was funny because she's going after every punchline.
And I think someone in the band is trying to match it with noise from sticks right it's right and then every time it's slightly off it's funnier much funnier you know but uh yeah i don't know what you know there are for me um and others like me i would get people saying well you know you're silly you know and it's sort, you know, you just get up there and you start doing your thing and acting silly, you know? So what do they say to you? That's so easy. You're so funny.
Naturally. You come up with this thing and they push you out on the sound stage.
Yeah. They let me improvise a lot on the show.
Everyone's always improvising. i think like for me sort of i guess the struggle was a little bit of like i do have a peculiar voice and like you know how much of it is like leaning too much towards like alt comedy versus like something that a mainstream audience can appreciate and be into um so sometimes there would be questions of like you know what do you want to be what is what do you compare yourself in terms of what we've seen you know what i mean and like kind of uh figuring out my space and i think like ultimately i mostly i'd like to think ended up pretty much doing what i would have done if I wasn't on the show to some degree.
You know what I mean? I'd like to think I stayed pretty true to my, I guess, perspective, if that makes sense. Yeah, I would see that.
I don't see you pandering or anything out there. Wait, Dana, I just saw, this is a newsflash.
This is a newsflash? I'm looking at his impressions

and... Oh, great.

It's so funny because I guarantee you have these.

You don't even remember a sign.

Or they're just a look. I mean, right, they

just give you a look. He's got John Kennedy.

Is it the John Kennedy that does the hearings?

We always talk about him.

I have no fucking idea.

This is just your Wikipedia page.

I was on, like, I page. I was on like,

I did,

I was on like,

I think WGN like a couple of weeks ago,

promoting the movie.

And like the,

the anchor was like,

just listing off all these impressions.

These like kind of like.

Bradley Cooper.

Exactly.

Yeah.

I'm like,

I don't know.

I'm sure that like.

Michael Jackson.

You do Michael.

That I do remember.

I actually think Michael was pretty good

Okay good

Can we get a little bit

Of Michael Jackson

Hey I want a donut

Hey man

Give me a donut

Why should I do it

After you guys

Have already done it well

I just did donut

I never

Always went to donut that guy

Jam on it

Shit

That's funny

That was better

Than the donut one

That's so funny

You should do him

He's about to go in

I'm not going to than the donut one.

That's so funny.

You should do him.

He's about to go in.

Michael Jackson about to get a root canal. Hit.

Michael Jackson right after a root canal.

Michael Jackson at the breakfast place. Put some jam on it.
Jam on it. I see.
I like abstraction. Accurate impressions can be breathtaking.
You know, Dana, for instance, that you excel at that and then there are those of us who don't like that's never been something that's been like a part of my toolbox or whatever. You know what I mean? I would get thrown in every once in a while.
I would surprise myself and do an impression on the show where I was like, OK, I hit that pretty well. But like I never was like the dude in middle school or whatever like doing the perfect

mr frank impression or something like that our history teachers yeah exactly what about a read through when you get one you're assigned and you get it right everyone erupts because they love it because you oh yeah and then when you miss it everyone goes oh they kind of they're like that's also,

I mean,

yeah,

I mean,

the journey from read through to like,

sure. Oh, they kind of, they're like, yeah.
That's also, I mean, yeah. I mean, the journey from read through to like the state, the state will like actually Saturday when it's like my, my Johnny Depp is feeling really good right now.
It's like the live show. And all of a sudden I don't fucking know how to do this.
Have you ever had it stolen from you? Have to read through the sketch gets on and they replace you. I sure i yes absolutely i'm sure i have i mean like i've you know once once all the celebs started coming through like uh fucking dana stealing jobs i know i said to lord i just you'll come back and you'll do all these no i just do biden and i i i have five catchphrases i've done them seven times i'm running on fumes I mean so it's funny they go who looks like Matt Damon we go let's get Matt Damon but I'm not like you know Daryl Hammond or Kevin Pollack there are people that are truly brilliant I mean I can sometimes they come to me but but sometimes I, I, I've been out there.

I, when I was doing, they assigned me someone.

I don't really have a hook.

Oh, and that's what I think that, I don't know that this was happening a ton when you

guys were there, but we were getting a lot of, I mean, I was there during a pretty intense,

like long strung out news cycle.

Like, you know what I mean? I was there, Obama, Trump, COVID, Biden. And like we would get the cold, we wouldn't often get the cold opens until like maybe Friday at 5 PM, but sometimes we wouldn't get them till like Saturday at noon.
And then you'd be thrown into like, you're going to play this whatever louisiana senator yeah yeah yeah it's um you know when they have women you're starting to put playing um you know like uh it makes me smile when i think about kate mcginnon doing uh giuliani yeah because like i'm just going to do kind of a penguin-y villain with the,

and just on a bat.

It's like Sarah coming out as Matt Gaetz,

just the look itself.

Yes.

It was so funny.

Yeah.

It was so funny that Louie put together and he's a Star Trek nerd.

So it was completely.

Do you think there's a male cast member that says,

I want to play Matt Gaetz or does Sarah just say, i want to pay matt gates i i i bet that producers are choosing sarah that's my guess sarah just this will be funnier it is funny i i think so and david i do want to say i want to give you your impression thank god so i'm a i'm a big fan of your tom petty oh yeah yes tom petty let's go back and explain it you know that he had a whole thing because he used to open for me what did you have in your trunk you had a hat you wore the petty hat petty hat that i stole off of la in new orleans it was like a gray hat that he used to kind of wear and then i had the skinny glasses yeah we're like kind of colored and i used to first say i'd put those on and do an impression of a girl on adam 12 an old cop show so i'd put like these hippie glasses and go what are you gonna do bust us pig that was the intro okay then i'd put the carpet sideburns on little piece that's right you had the sideburns with with the double-sided tape. Page carpet, yep.
Needed double-sided tape at every gig. In my rider, I was an opener.
No one had a rider. But I would bring it or the bit would fall apart.
Couldn't do the bit. And then the hat.
And then try to sing like them. And it was like a close.
It got up to be a closer. And then SNL, we did it.

Me and Dana did him and Bob Dylan.

I did it alone.

But I didn't have that many.

But he was in, I feel like, one of those.

Maybe Faith and Save the Chick-fil-A.

We are the world.

Yeah.

I didn't realize that it predated the show.

I did.

Oh, yeah.

I brought that one in.

Oh, yeah.

He was my opener.

Get that guy. I'm watching to see when I go on.
I see that one in. Oh, yeah.
He was my opener.

Get that guy. I'm watching to see when I go on.
I see the sign burns come out of the little suitcase. Oh, yeah.
I see the hat. And I go, I got to get on deck.
Get ready now. I got to follow this guy.
And a lot of times I'm having him cut the mic right before that. And then you go, it's good.
There was some sound problem. I didn't hear the ending.
And go i know what happened but spade was always like

never uh like kind of trying to get the audience to love him so he had a lo-fi kind of attitude and it was really funny because toward the end of our little tour to northeast he'd come out in shorts like cutoffs and kind of drape himself over the over the little uh stool mic stand with a Coke and go,

hey, what's up, everybody?

I'm coming out.

Isn't that special?

Come on.

That's great. over the little mic stand with a Coke and go, hey, what's up, everybody? I'm coming out.
Isn't that special? Come on. Everyone's leaning in to hear me.
Is this guy talking? Isn't that special? Special, special. Hit the reverb.
It was August in the Northeast outdoor sheds, and I would sweat. One night, I sweat all the way through my clothes.
Doing 90. Gotta do it, gotta do it it, gotta do it.
David's in the back. He's got a straw in the can of coffee.
I'm asleep in the back of the rental car. Are we done? Let's go.
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Everybody's got a dream here, right? Yeah. Dreaming of getting across town in less than an hour.
That is a good dream. Yeah, I remember this character.
I love that. I say this to myself.
But then he would say something very depressing. But then he would be like, but I do really need some help out here.
And I think I might- That's right. He'd get kind of down.
Yeah. I still do stuff like that to make myself laugh.
If I go out there, to me, the funniest thing a comedian can say, say they're in Cleveland and just say, what's up Cleveland? That's their first line.

It's so funny to me.

Oh yeah.

I love, yeah.

I just go, Cleveland.

Yeah.

There was a lot of, whenever I do it now, there's, which I've not done in a while, but

a lot of like, you know, like, have you, have you seen this?

Right.

You know, it'd be like, of course it's Christmas time.

You heard about this?

You seen this?

You know, that's what I'm saying.

How much money would it take to get Kyle Mooney to play a private party?

You don't have to answer that, but I'm just saying it's funny to ask you.

How much?

As this bad comedian.

Yeah, I have a child now that I have to support, so i will do and take anything for hire even what no he's for hire like we all are yeah i mean above 10k for sure super bowl commercial yes please this is what we all want right uh yes as well i always bitterly say that you everyone turned down commercials in the 90s because you know that's a sellout and i think about it and it frustrates me because uh we read ads hours and hours a week for any product so it is great we pearl jam and fighting the fucking power but i am happy when i see xs and all members doing giant commercial campaigns knowing they're making a ton of money it makes me happy good good for it because selling out is taking money and being in a really shitty movie or something but it's not selling out when everyone knows you're there to get a check to do the commercial absolutely yeah it's the opposite of selling i am so eager to get in that game i've been i've had a couple of those opportunities but if bud light is interested in doing anything with me i'm like i'm fully in so yeah people tell me i sell out every commercial i go you don't know me i sold sold out starting during SNL. I was doing 1-800-collect.
Beep-boop-bop-boop-bop-beep-bop. You did sell out early.
Yeah, dude. Not enough.
No, no, not enough. Yeah, I think I'm going to think good thoughts about you getting a Super Bowl commercial or just some kind of long-term campaign.
I appreciate that. For a phone company or.
Sure. He was like, like a tech guy, like, like you'd be great.
The guy in the store, like the target guy or a Apple helper guy do with your wiring is more confusing or just passive aggressive or whatever you do with that. It'd be funny.
I love it. Okay.
Okay. All right.
I'm just going to make a note right for this young man who's answered everything we've thrown at him and uh i just casually i i just thought it was cool that well i just such a fan of jonah hill i i just love the way he he as an actor he's somebody pops it's pretty cool his company was part of your film y2k yeah absolutely and like you know when he when they came on that was really the moment that the movie came together and that a24 signed on so like uh and i feel like you know he you know he's the he's he he made super bad such an like he was so incredible in that movie and that movie has become such an iconic teen film that i feel like having that sort of association and that stamp it does bring a lot of value to to to our is it is it flattering i mean probably must be like does he call you up and stuff and say he's a big fan or he reads the script or you know it's something i'm obviously he's a fan yeah no he's he's always been very he was uh uh we sort of became aware of each other or met each other prior to me being on the show he was a fan of uh of our internet videos he's you know he's from the la area i'm from san diego and uh i made these videos these SoCal videos where like I play a San Diego bro, essentially. And I know he really liked those.
So he reached out early on. And then when he came, he hosted, I think, twice while I was there.
And each time he came on, he's like, we should do something, maybe three times. And that's so special.
I don know how many many times you guys got to experience that when like a host knows you and it's like i want to do a better you know what i mean uh so uh yeah he's he's he's always been really cool and supportive for sure now your budget couldn't have been too huge though this isn't like aquaman right yeah i agree i'd say it's not exactly likeaman. It sounds like Aquaman the way you told me it, but it's got to be different.
And that might be that I'm pitching it poorly because I really don't want to give the impression that it's like Aquaman. Jason Momoa texted me during this podcast and said, man, I'm going to Y2K Friday night.
You in, bro? He's like, dude, this sounds like a fucking ripoff. Yeah, they're just doing Aquaman.

There it's exactly doing Aquaman.

Yeah, Seth.

You're not even saying anything.

Fasten your comedy safety belts because this movie is going to blow your mind.

If you could do an ad with an announcer promoting Y2K, a television ad, what would it sound like?

If I could do-

Y2K. They don't know what's going sound like? If I could do...
Y2K.

They don't know what's going to happen.

You know, that kind of...

Yeah, mainly.

You might get zapped.

Wait, here he goes.

Okay.

Y2K.

Kyle Murray.

When do you guys want me to go?

Yeah, go.

One, two, three.

Y2K.

Y2 not.

2K or Y2K? That's the question. Why Mooney Kyle K? December 6th.
Oh, here comes Dr. Ding Dong.
December 6th. All right.
Thank you,

Kyle.

We won't play on the spot anymore.

Such a fan.

I hope to see you guys at the 50th and hang out and a fan of the show and a fan of you guys.

So thank you for having me.

It's been a thrill and good luck with the movie.

And I feel you're going to be doing a lot of films and that's just a great career.

Making films that you control and love, I believe, but I do my best in between that big ass fucking commercials. I want, I want my ass to be huge in these commercials.
All right. Bye guys.
All right. Take care,, Kyle This has been a presentation of Odyssey Please follow, subscribe

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