Andrew Schulz

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Speaker 1 andrew schultz uh

Speaker 1 pretty big comedian out there a guy i don't know really well i do think he's very funny though and um i've checked in with him here and there he was on the roast with tom brady that's how a lot of people right would maybe know him on a bigger scale uh even though he does do theaters all over of course um big comic out there has a podcast kind of a controversial guy which is good shakes it up and um

Speaker 1 a lot of fun we had a great chat with him mostly we talked a lot about stand-up and a lot about

Speaker 2 how to film specials how to sell them and what works out there these days yeah two interesting things one is he is very much a powerhouse out there he's very high energy and he and he steps outside the lines he's definitely edgy extremely funny then we got him on our show and he's uh he's kind of sweet and and humble it's sort of funny when you see this dichotomy of the performer and his real personality.

Speaker 2 Number two, he says

Speaker 2 he plays arenas regionally, but

Speaker 2 he's huge in Dubai. Oh, yeah, he did Dubai.
He's huge in Australia.

Speaker 2 And so he films a lot of stuff even between his specials.

Speaker 2 So he's a one-man band. He's an ecosystem.
He's a business. He's very savvy and smart about stand-up.
And

Speaker 2 like David said, he a minute ago, his special takes a turn, and it's a story, a sweet story about him and his wife trying to make a baby. Make a baby, yeah, and all the stuff that happens.

Speaker 2 Life on Netflix.

Speaker 1 And he's got good hair. Check out life, and here's Andrew Schultz.

Speaker 3 Thank you. This is a huge, this is a huge honor, guys.
I just want to let you know. This is a huge honor.
I'm sure you guys get this all the time, but I really appreciate it.

Speaker 2 Let's see. When Wayne's World came out, you were eight or nine.
Yeah, so I get it.

Speaker 2 41.

Speaker 2 41, but you, but you read at a 44-year-old level. I understand.
I'm high. I'm high.
Yeah. But your specials are awesome.

Speaker 2 They're powerful, man. And

Speaker 2 I guess it's your generation, but the beginning of.

Speaker 2 of the one, the recent one on Netflix is so cool where you come out, you land two jokes, like a cold opening.

Speaker 2 The way it opens and your dad introduces you, and then it's a shop behind and it just says the name of the special gigantic. I mean, it's like we would crawl out in the 90s.

Speaker 2 It would just say, what's up? It's just like, it's an event.

Speaker 3 How much control did you guys even have with like how specials looked when you guys were doing none? Was it so HBO would just be like, hey, show up, do the material, and then we'll handle it.

Speaker 1 You know, I remember backdrop. What do you want your backdrop? I had an old one called Take the Hit, and they said,

Speaker 1 I want to do it. I want to do an Arizona.
And they said, what do you want your backdrop to be? And I'm like, cocktresses? I mean, it's like so fucking stupid.

Speaker 2 It was like a desert.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was just like, I go, maybe live coyotes. But what happened is no one actually looked at the back.
And

Speaker 1 also you just wanted to be enough to not take away from what you're doing or you disappear in the back, what you're wearing. So it's all complicated.
It just isn't any good.

Speaker 2 What was it like? Like, uh, so, so back then, I loved yesterday to ask questions. I really told back then.
No, I love that. You're curious.

Speaker 3 No, because, like, okay, okay, okay. Cause like, I, I was coming up at like the downfall of the Comedy Central special.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 Right. Like, yeah.

Speaker 3 There was a moment, like, when I was, when I was young, young, I remember like the deliriouses. I remember watching like Martin Chris.
Like, I remember these like events.

Speaker 3 I remember going to watch a Martin Lowrance special in a movie theater. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 They were just these like insane spectacles, right? Yeah. And then, and then like the Comedy Central, like half hours, I think it was.
Like, you know, you would try to get a premium blend.

Speaker 3 I remember that. And then maybe you get a half hour, then maybe you get an hour.
And I remember like those impacting people's careers less.

Speaker 3 When you guys were doing like your first specials, was it like the next week you couldn't walk down the street? Were you already so famous it didn't matter?

Speaker 3 Like, could you feel people watched watched it?

Speaker 2 Mine came out, I'll just answer this

Speaker 2 in 96. I'd already been on SNL

Speaker 2 and it was an analog world. So

Speaker 2 just to be pithy, I never, you know, I don't know how you name your specials. I just called it Critics' Choice.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I saw that.

Speaker 2 Five stars. So for years, my sister would call me and then I was on Cable TV Comedy Central playing on a loop.
She goes, you got Critics' Choice again.

Speaker 2 So,

Speaker 2 but it was pretty, it was a much bigger impact then.

Speaker 2 So you felt it.

Speaker 3 You felt like people were, it was appointment viewing, you were watching.

Speaker 2 Once it got off HBO and was on Comedy Central a lot, you know, but that

Speaker 2 was yours HBO?

Speaker 2 I believe it was.

Speaker 1 And then it was on the only game in town, really. When I got mine on, I was on

Speaker 1 maybe SNL or Just Shoot Me. And then it was.

Speaker 1 It was a big deal because I didn't really know it was a big deal. We got paid pretty well.
And I remember HBO only did a couple. So it was very rare.
And that it did have an impact on the stand-up.

Speaker 1 I didn't chase the stand-up as hard because I was working and then I got more into stand-up later back into it. But they were, your question is: yes, it had a little more impact.

Speaker 1 And now stand-ups everywhere. And it's on your phone, and it's clips, and it's people doing crowd work.
So you go, is a special important? It's very hard to stand out still. Is it a game changer?

Speaker 2 From this generation's point of view, to whatever, 2016, 2017,

Speaker 2 and people like yourself and Nate Brigatzi,

Speaker 2 I don't know, Tom Segrega, you know, name them,

Speaker 2 Matt Reif, whatever, Sebastian, there's this phenomenon

Speaker 2 of gigantic, and you're super global,

Speaker 2 and you're killing in Dubai with these inside jokes and tagging them with your material, which is... It's a nice thing to listen to because you don't feel like you're doing crowd work.

Speaker 2 You feel like you're legitimately asking questions or making statements. Anyway, I speak to this phenomenon of Andrew Schultz from compared to like 2016.
I mean, I think, I think, okay.

Speaker 3 I think there's like, there's definitely levels, right? Like, it's like, I think like Nate and Sebastian and like

Speaker 3 Shane, like, I think they're doing arenas in every city they go to. And I think I'm like a regional arena act.

Speaker 2 Yeah. You know,

Speaker 2 there's some that, dude.

Speaker 1 Joe Coy goes different spaces.

Speaker 2 It's bigger, smaller.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Where are you lose most?

Speaker 3 Fucking in the Middle East. I was joking around with Tim Dillon.
I was like, listen, if you do like a decade of women are annoying jokes, like you'll sell a lot of tickets.

Speaker 2 Women are annoying.

Speaker 3 But yeah, so it's like, I'll have my markets, but it is kind of weird because usually that's, usually white guys aren't like that. You're right.

Speaker 3 Like, usually there's like an Asian dude will crush in like San Francisco, Hawaii, Irvine, right?

Speaker 2 So I'm kind of, I have, I have like, I'm like an Asian arena act.

Speaker 3 That's kind of what I am.

Speaker 2 That's what I think.

Speaker 3 Like random international places.

Speaker 3 So yeah, it is, it is a,

Speaker 3 it is, it is cool. It's fucking awesome.
I don't know what to tell.

Speaker 2 Like well, it's yeah. Well, you're owning it.
I mean, you're not like nervous out there.

Speaker 2 You're not, I mean, you have, you know, when I get comfortable, you put the foot, one foot's on the monitor and you're playing to 20 000 people and this is what you would do at a little you know hole in the wall

Speaker 2 one foot's on the thing and it denotes i'm relaxed man i am in total charge here so would it be easier just to request a step stool out there wouldn't you just go like that i just i just want to

Speaker 2 put the front of a boat

Speaker 2 like george put the front of a boat out yeah

Speaker 1 what about i have a question about when you do these i just talked i think segura went overseas um

Speaker 1 and overseas

Speaker 1 i think when they told me once you want to go overseas they go what they do is they'll put you in a couple of small you know like clubs or maybe a small theater let's see how it goes see how famous see if anybody gives a fuck and come back and then the next time you have a gauge i'm like wait go twice so like dubai and that stuff i don't know because you must have bigger themes.

Speaker 1 I mean, you can't mention Ralphs. You can't talk about Sepalveda.
You can't. And that's the hard part.

Speaker 1 the bigger you get you have to go this has to work for everyone and I remember rock Chris Rock I used to say you're smart you go politics you go relationship marriage and those will last you 40 minutes and those at least everyone gets it yeah is that what you need over there

Speaker 3 Listen, I got lucky that my sperm doesn't work and everybody wants to have a family or a lot of people like having families. So like that was a kind of relatable story that I ended up telling.

Speaker 3 But what I noticed about like Abu Dhabi specifically, like if is that they're, they're more connected with American culture than the English because they, a lot of them are all educated here and in like real America, like Tennessee State, not NYU or UCLA, like some rural American colleges.

Speaker 3 So they know all the references.

Speaker 3 But if when you go to Amsterdam, like they are,

Speaker 3 those are some tough shows, but I'm not going to lie.

Speaker 1 Those are some tough shows i'm sure they can it's not even your fault it's just you pop in and you're like i think they were saying some of these cities were tough and some were like full crickets and some were great and you're like i just you don't even know you don't know why and probably mark that someone does better crickets as a special

Speaker 2 crickets full crickets dude i had full crickets the laugh back the other night i'm like what's going what am i getting worse

Speaker 2 that's got to be a meme or something but what you get australia is you're you backed into jokes about the Aboriginals there. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 I like doing that. Like I like, I like going to places and like writing some jokes like the day of and then seeing if it goes well.
But

Speaker 3 I like talking to people when I'm in these places and I'm trying to get information and see like what they're proud of, what they're embarrassed of, and like writing some stuff about them that they wouldn't maybe expect me to know.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 3 what I find is like if I can, you know, sometimes it goes well, sometimes it doesn't.

Speaker 3 But if it does go well, the rest of the show goes really well because I think everybody there goes, oh, okay, like he, he cares about us. He's not here tonight.

Speaker 2 They like something local for sure.

Speaker 3 Yeah, they're like, he's made an effort and he's interested in this place. And, you know, so that tends to, yeah.

Speaker 2 Here's an oversized laugh I got just the other night. Sorry.
I'm playing some Valley. We're flying into Ketchum.
And I said, I mean,

Speaker 2 Sun Valley's, that's the place I'm playing. I mean, Ketchum, I just thought it'd be a complete shithole.
So that got such a big laugh because it's out of the blue in Sun Valley, Idaho.

Speaker 2 The clueless guy. I just thought Ketchum be a shithole, man.
It's great, but the laugh is so big when it's local. And I was doing that since the late 70s.

Speaker 2 I mean, and I find always a few jokes about the place and what's the shitty town that they'll laugh at. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah. And also, like, what is some like weird, like every place has a big story, you know what I mean? Like, they're not talking about Elon over there or fucking Trump or whatever the politics is.

Speaker 3 Like, whatever their local shit is, is fun. So,

Speaker 3 you know, how can I pull that? Like, there are all these, it was all the Israel-Palestine protests when I was in Australia.

Speaker 3 And there was all these Australians, like, give them back their land or whatever.

Speaker 3 So, the joke I had is like, there's some Aboriginal dude watching these white Australians, but give them back their land.

Speaker 3 So, it's like, like, the joke, that joke would work in New York, but

Speaker 3 in Australia,

Speaker 3 it really, it really goes. So I, yeah, I try to, I try to write a joke that I would use anywhere, but that is the epicenter of where it would get the best reaction.

Speaker 1 But you're also auditioning, like I asked, or I was just thinking, if you were in Ireland, because these guys just went to Ireland, I go, would Conor McGregor's just running for president?

Speaker 1 Do you say that? Is that something you don't even know what side they're on? You start something and they like it or they don't like it.

Speaker 3 I mean, yeah, I was, when I was in Ireland, I was, the guy who's president now is like, he's almost like an Irish stereotype. Have you seen what he looks like?

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 3 He's like 4'11.

Speaker 2 Like, he looks like what you think an Irish carries a prodigal.

Speaker 2 Like, literally, like, he

Speaker 3 is a lepregon, whatever.

Speaker 2 And so I was having some fun with that.

Speaker 3 And it's interesting because I was teasing him, but you could tell they really like him.

Speaker 3 So they were like laughing, but they were also like,

Speaker 2 oh, he's good.

Speaker 2 Careful, careful. Yeah,

Speaker 2 I have a lot of Irish relatives. They're underdogs.
They're amazed how much we love their country, you know.

Speaker 2 But I would say that when you do Ad-lib something that's new that day that you thought of that day and you get a laugh, then you're just kind of alive in the frame.

Speaker 2 I mean, I can tell by watching you, like, because then you're going to go into your tried and trues because that's how you do stand-up.

Speaker 2 But every time you do something that's fresh, just lightens the whole show up, right?

Speaker 1 Oh, it lights yourself up too.

Speaker 3 You think you're getting also like like like australia was kind of almost like cheating because i got to do like four or five shows before i did that one where i i put out the the australian material like usually i just got to think of it the day of but this was i got to work it out a few days right find the bits or whatever so that's always fun when you're you're away but it's just rare that you can go to a place

Speaker 3 where you just go to a country and tour five places.

Speaker 2 And I just have to, because we didn't do this either, but you, you, you're taping, you have your specials, and then when you travel the world, you've got a five-camera crew or something.

Speaker 2 Is that and then you use it?

Speaker 3 We do. We have, I have my one guy, Shifty, who like edited the special and he was like instrumental and like directing it.
And he's this kid.

Speaker 3 He like came to start working on us when he was like 18 years old. It's like unbelievable.
And

Speaker 3 he, he brings five cameras.

Speaker 3 And then he just sets them up and then just hits record.

Speaker 2 So we don't have like this whole crew.

Speaker 3 We just have one guy that's doing it.

Speaker 2 It looks like a special. I go, did he have another special I wasn't aware of?

Speaker 3 That's the shit we can do now.

Speaker 3 It's kind of crazy, right?

Speaker 2 It's very, very smart.

Speaker 1 Well, it also takes away from the fear of, like, I just did mine.

Speaker 1 It comes out soon. I wanted you to have you on so I could plug mine.
But

Speaker 1 no, I, uh,

Speaker 2 it comes out, but it was Andrew's shows. It's hard to do.

Speaker 3 It's hard to do the two in a row show.

Speaker 1 The typical sort of cookie cutter thing for comedians is get a maybe a theater two shows in one night cut them together do your best and i didn't do any tricks really i sort of regret it i was just telling dana before there was no like super tricky way to get in and then you're getting algo briefings like it's got to be the funniest in the first and then all your bad material at the end i'm like what bad material like oh you want us to tell you and i'm like no no

Speaker 2 no they'll tell you you hey Dave, do you open with your closer?

Speaker 1 And I'm like, wait, what's going on? So you got to just try to get them and all that stupid shit. Yeah.

Speaker 3 I saw Bert talking about that a little bit, I think.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 3 yeah, like, I don't know.

Speaker 3 I guess it's like, I don't think any of us have ever opened with something bad.

Speaker 2 Yeah. You know, you're supposed to open to get them going.

Speaker 1 That's, that's the second hardest thing is a closer. Opener might be harder.
You got to get them going. And if you don't get them going, you don't, you lost them.

Speaker 2 So, I went into the intersectum at Netflix, and they do every minute. You made it to 12 minutes or 13 minutes.
So, it's like as if you're playing a theater where constantly people are leaving.

Speaker 2 Like, there's just you start out

Speaker 2 and they're leaving. And by the end, you've got like 12.

Speaker 1 We're playing Wembley, and then we're going to be able to do it.

Speaker 2 So, you have to do a special as if every minute they want to go try and watch something else, you know.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 what you're doing is great. Just continue.

Speaker 3 If you do a

Speaker 3 like with mine, it ended up being a story. Like, I didn't want to do a one-man show.

Speaker 2 I'm still like,

Speaker 2 yeah, like, I,

Speaker 3 I, it kind of is almost like that because there's like a serious moment or whatever.

Speaker 3 But I feel like sometimes when you say one-man show, you're almost like asking people to like reduce their comedic expectations. So, like,

Speaker 2 yeah, definitely.

Speaker 2 Or immediately fucking hate it. Fucking me.
Yeah, yeah. But, but if, but if they.
It really is a one-man show, but don't call it that. Don't call it.

Speaker 3 But if you call it a one-man show and they hate it, it's because they're not smart enough. Didn't you know that?

Speaker 1 No, I did not.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. I mean, like,

Speaker 3 you must not be smart enough to understand this high artistic one-man show.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, you know, Jay is so intelligent, you know? Yeah. Yeah, the guy who doesn't have jokes, they call it a one-man show.

Speaker 2 I don't care what man, but yeah, Jay is a purist and he understands that.

Speaker 3 So, so I, I, so, so I kind of wanted to like almost trick people, and I wanted like, you know, just regular hard-hitting jokes, and then eventually you kind of like get into it.

Speaker 3 And what we found, I guess, Netflix told us they're like, yeah, the retention, like the watch through to the end was like insanely high.

Speaker 2 Because they're invested in this story.

Speaker 1 Oh, a story. It's like a long story.

Speaker 2 Yeah. It's like a phone call.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 So like you pitch it.

Speaker 2 I'm just going to

Speaker 2 be on a phone call. Yeah.
You ever call your phone? Yeah, it's like that. It's like that.

Speaker 2 So that's the first time you really, at the end, you're being sentimental, specifically sentimental, and you're getting awe's and stuff. You haven't tried that before, but it

Speaker 2 it's interesting to land that.

Speaker 3 I just, I thought my life was boring my whole career. I was like, I felt like my opinions on shit were better than like anything going on in my life.
So I never talked about anything personal.

Speaker 3 And then like when it was hard to get my wife pregnant because my sperm sucks, it was the only thing I could think about. So I started like writing jokes about it.
And then,

Speaker 3 yeah, it fucking, it ended up, and it turned into this.

Speaker 1 So it's cool i saw a video of your sperms at the finish line they're like this

Speaker 2 they're not quite making it

Speaker 2 yeah they're just they're just kind of falling it's a video that's going around yeah you got to see it dude

Speaker 2 you got to see it people are people are tagging my sperm and like pictures of the governor of texas i like that it's called life instead of like jizz patrol or something you could have really ruined this patient

Speaker 3 they wouldn't be doing much patrolling it's just more like

Speaker 2 just standing there checking

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Speaker 1 But I agree that

Speaker 1 it is funny. It's fun to tell stories because people will say, you should do this joke, or this is a funny joke.

Speaker 1 And I do have some jokes, my act, but I do love telling stories because it's the only thing that's more of a fingerprint to you because

Speaker 1 I do do stuff on the airport. I do it about this and common denominators, but I'm trying to do my version of that.
And longer stories are more fun for some reason.

Speaker 1 Just maybe because I'm older, they go, let me just tell you this thing. And then that's more true to me than going, I don't think anyone else is going to tell this story like this.

Speaker 3 Also, also, like, we get a sense of you, like, your personality shines through because it's how you acted in that moment.

Speaker 2 But, but also, I think that, like,

Speaker 3 if somebody walks into a room and goes, guys, I got to tell you this story, we're going to give them 10 seconds. If it's boring after 10 seconds, we'll, we'll probably go.
But everybody likes a story.

Speaker 3 It's like our earliest form of digesting information. Like, if you just give me a bunch of facts, I'm going to kind of look the other way.

Speaker 3 If you tell me some shit that happened, I'm kind of locked in. Like, I'm rooting for you in your story.
When When you tell me something happens, I want it to be good.

Speaker 1 I hear a TikTok story from someone I've never met, and they start in a story about a breakup with a guy, and I just sit there and stare.

Speaker 2 I'm like, Why am I even fucking listening to this? It's like 30 minutes a second. It starts and everyone starts.
I like it. I go,

Speaker 2 I've actually told young stand-ups who've asked my opinion in little teeny clubs. I said, pretend you just saw something on the street and you just came in to talk to your friends.

Speaker 2 Because usually when you tell a bit the first time, you're urgent about it and you're very specific. And then you start to lose it.
And Jerry Seinfeld

Speaker 2 says, oh, check the setup. Check the setup.
Check it out. Troubleshooting.
You got to check the setup because it's put it up on the rack.

Speaker 2 That is just a true statement.

Speaker 3 Like the first time you tell a joke, you think it that you like and does well. You think it leveled the room.

Speaker 3 And then you go look at like the video, audio, and you're like, oh, like five people laughed, but it's just

Speaker 1 one loud guy. Yeah.

Speaker 3 And then it goes away. That's so true.
Like the same joke, the same words, your excitement in it wanes a little.

Speaker 1 Also, when you say one and you say it off top of your head, and if you didn't tape it, I mean, I'm everyone's different, but I hopefully record it on my phone when I go to the comedy store or whatever, because when I audition these, these turds.

Speaker 1 And then I smash them in between two jokes that work, you know, and then I do one in the middle.

Speaker 1 But if it somehow works, I have to remember inflection, when it was in the set, how it worked, what happened, because sometimes I go, oh, I got that one. Next night I say it, nothing.

Speaker 1 And I go, nothing. What was the magic? What worked?

Speaker 2 What?

Speaker 1 And all that is so important.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Sometimes, like, sometimes

Speaker 3 you'll work on a joke and then get it really good. And the joke in your set that follows it can no longer follow it.

Speaker 2 Oh, it gets hurt by it.

Speaker 2 Wow. Yeah.

Speaker 3 It's not strong enough after

Speaker 3 how good this joke is.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's stamp is the best.

Speaker 1 Sometimes you got to tell your joke, I'm moving you up to closer.

Speaker 2 That's a great feeling.

Speaker 1 You go, I'm going to try this.

Speaker 2 It seems to work enough.

Speaker 1 I'm putting it at the end. And you go, fuck, I have a new closer.
Oh, that's so great. Because then the other one can do a little tentpole heavy lifting in the middle.

Speaker 3 What's the deal when you guys go to the store? Like, do you have to respect the light or are you just at a point where it's a suggestion?

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I go, when, I go, how long do you do? They go, 15. I go, great.
They go, when do you want the light? I go, at 30.

Speaker 1 But there's a lot of guys that get the light. I won't say names, but they literally get the light.

Speaker 2 And then they start going.

Speaker 1 So what else is going on? I go, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 That's not what else. That's wrap it up, guys.
When that elbow is up on the mic stand. Yeah.
They've already done 20. That elbows from.

Speaker 1 I'm like, no, we know where they're from. We don't care.
It's over.

Speaker 3 This is my favorite shit. Like, this is this thing that's like, and this has always existed, but it's really popular now.
Like the comics pretending that they don't care.

Speaker 3 So they'll have like a notepad on stage and they're like, look like, all right, what else do I got in here? And then they'll look at the page and then do a joke they did in their last special.

Speaker 2 It's just like, you know, fully formed.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 It's okay to care. We care.

Speaker 3 It's okay to try.

Speaker 3 We all try.

Speaker 3 We want to do well. You don't got to bring a prop on stage.

Speaker 1 By the way, it does better if you have a notebook because there's something about going, guys, what do you think of this?

Speaker 2 And then you read and and they're like that's pretty good and then you read you real like they go well not good enough for your real act but for this little thing you just thought of it sure this wispy idea yeah keep

Speaker 2 do you guys like i mean when you do a group show at the comedy store and there's like eight nine people Doesn't it become like a de facto competition?

Speaker 2 Like people, you're not even thinking about, oh man, you were one of the best tonight, or you were this like, I don't really like one of group shows. Yeah, it's gross.

Speaker 2 Bill Brad, do you have all right? Do you do the store a lot or not?

Speaker 3 When I'm out there, that's where I'll come.

Speaker 2 Oh, right. You don't live.

Speaker 2 I don't see you there.

Speaker 3 No, I'm in New York, man.

Speaker 1 So you just do that run. You have way more choices.
You can run all over, right?

Speaker 3 Yeah, there's, I usually just do the cellar and then New York Comedy Club.

Speaker 3 So the cellar has, what is it, one, two, three, four rooms.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah. So it's like...
It's literally like I got a kid now. So I can go there for an hour and a half and do four shows, or I can bounce around around the whole city for four hours.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And now I'm like, okay, let's, let's get the work in.

Speaker 2 I didn't realize that. That's fantastic.
You go to one place basically and have four audiences, boom, boom, boom, and then get out. Yeah, you can.

Speaker 3 I mean, it's kind of like store has, what, three rooms? You guys bounce around.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah, you're right.

Speaker 1 Go upstairs, do the belly room. I don't know.

Speaker 2 I don't practice much, but anyway, I'm down to the nubs. I mean, I'm like, the only thing worse than having hits is not having hits.
So,

Speaker 3 you know what I've seen? Interesting.

Speaker 3 What I've seen now is that, like, you know how like everything in comedy just goes through these like cycles and like people new to comedy don't get it because they haven't experienced like the last cycle.

Speaker 3 Like impressions are really popular now. Have you noticed that?

Speaker 2 Well, for me,

Speaker 2 that's all I do impressions and characters. Now, I'm not trying to tell anything, but just nail those.

Speaker 3 No, no, what I'm saying is we've known that. We've known that about you for decades.
And then like things go up and down in popularity.

Speaker 3 And I think like with Trump and probably Shane's like does this amazing version of he does a great version of and I think with the popularity of that, I've seen a lot of other people working in impressions.

Speaker 3 And there was times like when I was coming up where like people weren't doing impressions. Like crowd work is really popular.
There's time now everybody's like annoyed with crowd work.

Speaker 3 And like all these things, it just, it's just so funny, like all these things go up and down.

Speaker 3 Cause I remember early on, impressions, like when I was coming up, like seeing like Eddie, your best friend, Eddie go like crazy.

Speaker 2 I mean, it was, it was amazing with the impressions, you know, it was amazing that he didn't lean on them, but he was Daryl Hammond called him our best impressionist, but he was only he was doing prior if you weave him into something too, it yeah, it doesn't look like a big setup, you know.

Speaker 1 You're just like, they're like, oh shit, that sounds like it's a superpower.

Speaker 2 Yeah, like it's amazing. Yeah.

Speaker 3 It's, we all love it.

Speaker 3 Like, there's nobody, it's so funny, even watching comedians, like comedians, we can be like annoying with each other when like somebody's trying to be funny or like sneaking a bit.

Speaker 3 But when somebody does an impression that's spot on, everybody shuts up and just listens and enjoys. Like, especially if you can do another comedian that we're friends with.

Speaker 2 Do you have any?

Speaker 2 Do you have anybody that we know to do?

Speaker 1 Someone's going to do Shane because he grabs the mic funny.

Speaker 2 Shane has a great

Speaker 2 laugh. Like I told Seinfeld that everyone has

Speaker 2 a little bit of a laugh. With Richard Pryor, it was kind of a constant under.
And Shane has a really good little giggle he does after every bit. And he holds it very much high like this.

Speaker 2 He's a big guy. But I didn't really realize that.
So I'm feeling better about myself right now. But do you have an impression you do or would like to do?

Speaker 3 Because maybe we can help you out with it now.

Speaker 2 God, we can really coach you.

Speaker 2 I'm bad too. If I can't do someone, I'm terrible.
It's a very painful thing to try to learn. Selective?

Speaker 3 Like, you can't just mimic anything.

Speaker 2 At times, it takes me a long time. It took me a long time to get Biden.
I would say like a year and a half, you know, some and then some are easy.

Speaker 2 I don't really have any methodology other than exposure. I have to hear something a lot or hang out with someone a lot.
I'll do friends and stuff, but that's

Speaker 2 I can start talking out loud to myself and it's terrible.

Speaker 2 And then finally,

Speaker 2 if it comes to me, it comes to me, I don't have any, I see an impression I can't do, and I'm incredibly entertained.

Speaker 3 You know what I've noticed is like

Speaker 3 sometimes I see people doing an impression of someone's impression.

Speaker 1 Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 Yes, that's

Speaker 3 like, yeah, yes, because like you've distilled the four things about the person that like he physically does and those are like hooks exactly and then so you did the work and then i see people doing oh that's just a version of dana's right they cracked the code dana cracked the code and now you just

Speaker 2 get any credit for it you don't get any credit for it which is kind of up the latest one i am doing because it's kind of fun is i've just extrapolated jimmy fallon into a thing that i like to because i was hanging out with him at 8h one

Speaker 2 And I did Johnny Carson getting pulled for drunk driving. I've said this a lot, but in 1972, and it's

Speaker 2 what he had to drink and

Speaker 2 where he was drinking at. Oh, sorry, officer.
I didn't know I was swerving. I had two slippery monkeys at the hook and crook.
Okay, so that's the setup.

Speaker 2 And then Jimmy Fallon is like, oh my God, oh my God. Sorry, officer.
It's insane. It's insane.
I gave me a leave. Sorry, Officer.

Speaker 2 So it's just this sound clause coming at me that was just pure distilled Jimmy Fallon.

Speaker 2 It was crazy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he doesn't have to say much.

Speaker 2 Yeah, sometimes it's just a sound. Like

Speaker 2 you could do this one. Christopher Walken sees an amazing magic trick.
Just quick.

Speaker 2 Wow. Wow.

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 2 Wow. Wow.
Wow.

Speaker 2 What was that? Yeah. Didn't know where the rabbit went.
It's like a language, you know. I mean, Kevin Pollack and others have wound down.

Speaker 1 It's a classic where when someone cracked Walkin, it was like,

Speaker 1 now it's on. Everybody

Speaker 1 has walk-in now, and it's so fun.

Speaker 2 And he's so what about Goldbloom?

Speaker 3 I feel like he talks in a unique way.

Speaker 2 Does anybody do that? Yes, Elon Goldman. Yeah, I think Kyle Dunne does that too.

Speaker 2 I don't know.

Speaker 1 Oh, Elon Gold, Kyle Dunnegan. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Who's doing Elon Musk? Has anybody done Elon Good? Because he kind of.

Speaker 2 It's

Speaker 2 tricky. It's

Speaker 2 we're going to Mauls. Mauls.
You know,

Speaker 3 You have to have a little stutter.

Speaker 2 We're going to Moz.

Speaker 2 I did it for 18 seconds on SNL. I just did him at a rally.
Dog mega, you know, that kind of guy jumping around.

Speaker 2 But I'm still trying to learn it exactly because he is kind of soft-spoken mostly on podcasts, sort of thinks a lot.

Speaker 2 We've got to go to Moz. We don't simply have to telephone Moz.
And he's thinking and the way he looks around. But I'm still coming on to that because because I, there's two things.

Speaker 2 I mean, one is you could do a perfect Biden the first month of his administration, but people wouldn't be assimilated to it.

Speaker 2 They need to kind of, you know, so we saw a lot of people saw Elon at the rallies first.

Speaker 2 I've seen him on a lot of podcasts. So it's a work in progress, Andrew.
I'll get back to you.

Speaker 1 They're tough to crack some of that shit because there's not like something to bite into.

Speaker 2 You know, my end was I used him as a setup for Trump to get a laugh. You know, I did it on Bill Maher.
It's just, you know, he's like, Elon's there, and Trump's there with the red tie.

Speaker 2 It's like, well, we're going to go to the malls.

Speaker 2 We can send too much money. We can't sustain it, all that.
And then they say, Mr. Trump, and Trump says, what he said, what he said.
He's a smart cookie. He's a tough cookie.
He's a cookie crumble.

Speaker 2 So I just use him to set up Trump.

Speaker 2 That's it.

Speaker 3 That's it. It's word association with Trump.
It's like, right. Every word's got to take you a little bit further away than the point that he's trying to make.

Speaker 2 Even he just thinks of it as he goes on. He does word association.
Asian charge cookie.

Speaker 2 He's a Pokemon star. He's a Lorna Dune.
You remember the Lord of Dunes? Everybody loves the Lord of Dunes.

Speaker 2 Everybody loves them. Everybody loves them.

Speaker 2 But yeah, that's one way to use it as someone who does impressions.

Speaker 3 That is so funny. That is how he talks, really.

Speaker 2 It's like every word reminds him. Everybody loves him.
Love him. Gaze.

Speaker 2 You throw his in. Gaze.

Speaker 2 Trump will never say so. I,

Speaker 2 so, you know, like anyone might run out of stream of thought. He never does.
We're going to go with Lona Dunes.

Speaker 1 And it's like weak to him if you stop a thought.

Speaker 2 So he just keeps going.

Speaker 2 Is weak. Yeah.
And repeating a phrase five to ten or fifteen times. Lonadoon, Lona Dune.
Everyone loves Lona Dunes. You see the Lonado's, you look at them, and you got them, and they're like them.

Speaker 2 People like the Lona Dunes.

Speaker 2 And it works for him.

Speaker 2 I want to ask you, because you interviewed him, because his dialect is so infectious.

Speaker 3 It's so infectious.

Speaker 2 He's a single

Speaker 2 and he knows how to use it.

Speaker 3 Like, for example, when he does that little like rev up sound, like, we're going to do it.

Speaker 2 Like, you know,

Speaker 2 like,

Speaker 3 he's like injecting energy.

Speaker 1 Maybe he's slowing down and he feels himself.

Speaker 3 He's got it. He's like, I'm getting tired.
I got to come back. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 But like, the fries are wearing off.

Speaker 3 He called it the weave on the show, like what you guys are describing.

Speaker 2 He's named it on your show. Okay.

Speaker 3 And he was like, he's like, he's like, he's like, yeah, I call it the weave.

Speaker 3 It's like, I'm in here, I go out there, I come back here, and then I come all the way back around to the point that I was trying to make. And he goes, people think that I'm stupid that I do that.

Speaker 3 You actually got to be really smart to go all the way back out here and then come back.

Speaker 2 it's so funny

Speaker 1 surprisingly it's a very smart maneuver

Speaker 2 yeah i know he is absolutely hilarious because you're just waiting for okay what is the point here where where are we now like

Speaker 3 he he like he's like keying into like thing like he said something without trying to be funny that i laughed at like he goes um

Speaker 3 He goes, he goes, after he got shot, he goes, he goes, yeah, and it fixed me up.

Speaker 3 He goes, these country doctors, I'll tell you, you know, and I laughed because like, it's funny he thinks that there's regular doctors and country doctors, like that the doctors in the country are like this like overall

Speaker 1 little house on the prairie. Yeah.

Speaker 3 So I laughed at it and he clocks me laughing. And I swear to God, he hits it in the next three sentences.
He's like, yeah, he's country doctors.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 Country doctors.

Speaker 2 He's like, walk shopping. Yeah.
He's like,

Speaker 1 he doesn't know what the funny part is. He goes, I went to the general store also.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 So, oh, because he got a laugh. He was kind of like wanting to understand.
Yeah,

Speaker 2 right. Okay.

Speaker 1 I like when he goes, someone asks him a question. He goes, another dumb question from an idiot over here.

Speaker 2 It's just like, who says that? It's always so.

Speaker 1 That's why comedians love it. It's just so funny.

Speaker 2 You go, whoever says that?

Speaker 3 You almost wish that he was just like,

Speaker 3 just make him like a royal figure so he doesn't have to be politicized. So yeah, we can just laugh without there any being any scrutiny because it's undeniably funny.

Speaker 2 It's just funny.

Speaker 3 Another dumb question from another dumb question.

Speaker 2 This word is a terrible

Speaker 2 terrible person.

Speaker 2 You're not a smart cookie. You're not a smart cookie.
I'll tell you that much. You know you're not.
You're not a smart cookie. I can tell you.
Look at this.

Speaker 2 I know the gutter all one is such a funny movie that I think is kind of new, but cookie, cookie.

Speaker 3 That's Magic Johnson's wife.

Speaker 2 How's she not getting?

Speaker 2 It's just what he's doing. Like, should we all just talk like that all day?

Speaker 1 He casually goes in magic, having trouble with the blood work.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 what was that middle part?

Speaker 2 They got to take a lot of tests. They take them all the time, and Cookie comes out.
He takes a lot of vitamins. He's back on his feet.

Speaker 2 There's a lot of that breathing thing, too. But yeah, there's so many hooks and so many things to do with that guy.
It's extraordinary.

Speaker 2 Oh, I have have a special question, too. Oh, yeah, ask him what

Speaker 2 he's back in his feet, he's up in his feet, yeah. And you're like, what? Was he laying the umbrella? No, he's he's back, Magic is fully back now, and you're like, He's back now,

Speaker 2 it's from 35 years ago, yeah, I know

Speaker 2 they worked out, they got him

Speaker 2 very strong.

Speaker 2 They had to do a cocktail, they call it a cocktail of pills, it's a cocktail, excuse me. They had to get the right cocktail, and they got the right cocktail of pills, and that's he's okay now.

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Speaker 1 No, I was just back going back to his special where you had it and then you bought it back.

Speaker 2 And I think that

Speaker 1 that situation turned out to be, I heard different rumors, but highly successful.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah it was it ended up being the best it ended up being the best thing for me situation i don't have any animosity by the way for amazon like i get the what they had to do like you know they they made a business decision and they're like we don't want these jokes tarnishing the brand and i get it that's fine i bet you would be different now like i bet just culture has kind of changed a bit but um

Speaker 3 But uh, but yeah, I was able to put out and the people were like so supportive and it was, it was incredible. And then people made a bunch of lies online about how I

Speaker 3 told them to, I told them that it would never be available anywhere else. And even though I told everybody, if you can't afford it, just steal it on the internet.

Speaker 3 And that eventually it would be on YouTube. But it is what it is.
You know, you have some, you do something good, and it's successful, and people are going to find a way to be upset about it.

Speaker 2 And when you do it, people really loved it.

Speaker 1 It was great. Was it basically off your website? It's just a click and this is, and you pay.

Speaker 3 It was like, there's this company called Moment House that was bought by Patreon. So essentially, it's like

Speaker 3 it looks like it's on my website, but they basically put their mask on my website. So you go to my website and it just kind of like almost forwards it to theirs.
And then it almost just looks like

Speaker 3 it looks like Netflix or something like that or any other place. And you just watch it.

Speaker 1 Because Theo and I were talking about this for this.

Speaker 1 This indie we just did.

Speaker 1 And this is one of the things I brought up. I brought up your situation.

Speaker 3 I said, I mean, you guys could, I think you'd kill it with that, but I also think that there's an appetite.

Speaker 3 I think there's an appetite for you guys now. I think that, like,

Speaker 3 I think that there's going to be a lot of excitement about that. I think people would pay for it 100%.
But I think streaming is the way to go. I don't think movie theater is the way to go just yet.

Speaker 1 It's a tough decision because I've done movies and movie heydays when it was like big weekends, you're up against this movie, you're up against this.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And now it's tougher. And I was, when we were going over all the processes of what could be, because we're, you know, we sort of did it.

Speaker 1 Well, we did do it without, we just paid for it and said, absolutely no plan. And it's kind of fun.
And people think that's intriguing just because

Speaker 1 someone's got to do it. It's like, okay, now what? And then just figure out what surfacing is the best situation.
But, you know, when you say

Speaker 1 theaters, I don't want any stink if something doesn't go perfectly right away because people back off. And I go, guys, I've been in movies that don't do well.
It's fucking a dagger.

Speaker 1 And nowadays, when it's all these superhero movies, and you know, even if Snow White doesn't make 100 million the first weekend, they're pouncing on it.

Speaker 1 Obviously, it's a budgetary discrepancy with ours, but it's just, it's just optics. Do you want to look like it's a hit? It's very hard to figure out all that stuff.

Speaker 3 You're 100% right because you see like the theater empty and the people take pictures and it's very easy for them to like pan the film based on that.

Speaker 3 But dude, getting people to leave their house is almost impossible now.

Speaker 1 That's the big trick. It's so easy not to leave your house.

Speaker 2 You don't have to leave.

Speaker 3 Yeah. And also, they don't even know if the movie is going to be good or not.
Like,

Speaker 3 at least with a franchise like Batman, you're like, all right, I've seen a bunch of these movies. I'll get the babysitter.
I'll take the risk. I'll go.

Speaker 2 But here's this movie where it's like, all right, well, I love all the people involved in it.

Speaker 3 But have I seen a movie where they're all in it together? I don't know.

Speaker 3 But if you put that on streaming, like for me if that movie's on netflix that there's no brainer the first week you're top 10.

Speaker 3 yeah no brainer because it's it's like the investment is so minimal it's like if i'm a spade fan i'm watching if i'm a theo fan i'm watching i'm sure you guys have a bunch of other like cameos from people like it's it's and then if it is good

Speaker 3 the word will spread and you'll stay in the top 10 forever but stream extreme extreme But what do you, what do you recommend that they do?

Speaker 2 Do you actually audition it for all the streamers? So So, Netflix and Amazon and Hulu, they're all they're all

Speaker 2 offers.

Speaker 3 You don't have one offer unless you have, like, even with my, like, even with my Netflix deal, I had one offer and then that offer changed significantly when we got another offer.

Speaker 3 And I don't begrudge them for it, but like, they're not in the business of paying you what you're worth.

Speaker 2 It's just

Speaker 2 paying the minimum they can.

Speaker 2 It's not that

Speaker 2 another suitor. It's the same thing with single people or something.
But sure they want me to you know if i'm uh if i'm if i'm amazon right now like i'm

Speaker 3 if i'm amazon right now and i know that like netflix i mean theo did his last one on netflix right so netflix is like invested in building that guy up sure i'm i'm buying the movie just off the strength of just taking yeah

Speaker 3 like yeah i mean brand war right there so to me that's just like a no-brainer so i would i'd talk to them i talk to hulu i talk to paramount everybody right

Speaker 2 we've been asked about it for any chance we could hire you to be our manager is that is that

Speaker 2 totally outside

Speaker 1 no it's fun to think about it out loud because we haven't seen it we're going to see it this weekend this is the oh wow first time it's been rough together so we liked and we shot it we liked the scenes and i said i've done a lot of these i think it's got a chance so let's see it all in a row if it's how i picture it we're we're in good shape so but you know, the directors got it.

Speaker 1 You know how it works. And they get eight weeks.
So then we'll go in there and start fiddling with it. But I was like, I have a good feeling.
And I've been asked about it from some streamers.

Speaker 1 Like, can we look at it yet? And I'm like, we're not, we don't even know what we're not there yet. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, we're not there. And it's good because

Speaker 1 there is interest just because it's

Speaker 2 a weirdo move. Well, the comedy works.
It's huge. An R-rated comedy is a lot of people.
How many movies are made every year?

Speaker 1 I don't know. I mean, I kind of know why they don't, but

Speaker 1 I think they've slowed down. I mean, Sandler is responsible for most comedies out there.
Like, he has a deal, so he either produces them or he's in them. And that's a big chunk out there.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And that's on streamers. So

Speaker 3 I think we're like, we're basically one successful R-rated comedy away from having like

Speaker 3 another decade of

Speaker 3 really funny R-rated comedies. Yeah.
So whether it's you, somebody else, it's going to take one. I feel like culture is at the point now where we can be naughty again.

Speaker 2 Yeah, just give it a moment.

Speaker 3 And if one goes,

Speaker 3 we're going to have some fun.

Speaker 2 People are ordering them.

Speaker 2 They have some edgy jokes in there, Spade has told me. I mean, funny, but definitely different than, you know.

Speaker 3 But you guys have been entertainment for, especially Hollywood for long enough. Like, everybody, what is it? They say it's a race to be second or something.
Like,

Speaker 3 nobody wants to put their balls on the line to

Speaker 2 ring.

Speaker 1 We make one thing happen, then follow. Then you go, okay, that works.

Speaker 2 I was just going to ask the question or the observation that, like, looking at yourself, you

Speaker 2 coming up at this time, it's like you're the CEO of your career. You can either self-produce or not, or

Speaker 2 you're not asking for permission. You're not auditioning much.
You're not trying to meet corporate entities to help you. You're the CEO of Andrew Schultz.

Speaker 2 And so that the freedom that people have with social media to pump everything, YouTube, is extraordinary. And

Speaker 2 I think it's great. It's a different world than what we came up in.

Speaker 3 Yeah, there's, there's a lot, a lot more freedom, that's for sure.

Speaker 3 And like, if now is the time, if you just want to create shit to do it, you know, obviously like making films and TV shows is so expensive that you got to find a way to raise some money.

Speaker 3 You guys are able to do it, but you guys are all rich, successful dudes, you know

Speaker 1 We put most of it ourselves so and that's a good way if you can to just say you want to just green light this right now and

Speaker 3 and i think fortune favors the brave whatever that cliche is i think it's true and i think that basically everybody's afraid to do cool but once it's there everybody wants to buy it so i don't know what you guys spent on it but you guys decide the price like right you know you get why is it not a hundred million dollar movie who knows

Speaker 1 right if it's gonna do i remember when they were paying a lot for uh

Speaker 1 comedy specials out of the blue remember i think the the top they've got like 20 million or something like that 30 million a clip like it used to be like two three million whatever was the biggest and then suddenly it jumped huge and i asked someone at one of those streamers and they said because

Speaker 1 if we do a movie with that person it will cost us 20 to 30 million So we're paying 20 and we're going to lose four times the views on a special than a movie.

Speaker 1 So it's really saving us money in a weird way. And I was like, I didn't look at it that way.
But they could have gotten them everybody for cheaper.

Speaker 1 And I think they got back down to earth after a couple of those.

Speaker 2 I think as soon as they get shifted,

Speaker 2 yeah.

Speaker 1 I remember when Amy got 11 and said it was not enough.

Speaker 2 She said, why aren't I getting 20?

Speaker 1 And I'm like,

Speaker 1 wow. And she got, I think they kicked her some more.

Speaker 2 No way.

Speaker 1 Fucking, yeah.

Speaker 2 Well, because it was

Speaker 2 going out there and saying that.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 That's when you could kind of use the, yeah, you could use like sexism or racism for a little extra.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's hard to say with its rock and Chappelle. I mean, it's, it's ballsy to step forward and say, give me that.
We're the same. I mean, I wouldn't, I'm not there.

Speaker 2 It lets you know where you are in the ecosystem and show business when you know people are getting 20 or 30. And then you're going to be.
It's all supply and demand.

Speaker 2 If they feel worth it, they're going to give it to you.

Speaker 2 I know what they're doing. I understand.

Speaker 3 But if somebody else is going to offer it to you, that's the thing. If somebody else is going to offer it to you, do you know where you're going with this one that you just filmed?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Can you mention or?

Speaker 1 I don't think I can because we have a press release coming out this week.

Speaker 2 Ah, gotcha. Is it a done deal or is it just a possibility?

Speaker 1 I shot it already. Yeah.
I shot it comes out in May. So, but I'll tell you.

Speaker 2 Oh, you're special. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But I will tell you that when I did the HBO when we were talking about earlier, the take-the-hit one, and there was notice, it was noticeable for me. And then it took me all this time.

Speaker 1 And I did a Comedy Central one,

Speaker 1 and it was like it didn't happen.

Speaker 1 Actually, I use Dana as an example because Dana was like, I keep trying to watch it, but I have to get on an app and then I have to sign up and then I have to go here.

Speaker 2 And I'm like, because I can't even find it.

Speaker 2 And I'm like, it's not easy.

Speaker 1 Like, they air it once at midnight or something, and then they air it a month later. And it's not like you can just get it like on a stream.

Speaker 3 So it was got caught up, it

Speaker 1 didn't burn my material because I'm like, can I just do this again?

Speaker 2 Because

Speaker 3 if I were you, I would, I would, unless it exists on YouTube or something like that, I would just use some of the stuff that you were doing.

Speaker 2 But I wasn't even doing clips.

Speaker 1 It was right before clips. So clips would have helped it.
Like, hey, here's at least I could clip it out and say, come to my next show.

Speaker 3 But I'm like, I didn't. I would, I would use some of that if you're not.

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 3 there's like, I think, I'm pretty sure like Chappelle used a joke he did in an earlier thing in a later thing.

Speaker 3 I mean, it's like an amazing, it's one of my favorite jokes that he's ever written, but it's the uh, and I think he even made it like better, but it's the joke about uh

Speaker 3 you know, it's like uh, hard being successful in black.

Speaker 3 Like, uh, I remember my house got broken into, like, these people came in, robbed my whole house, called the police, they showed up, and they're like, He's still here.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 it's just

Speaker 2 fucking fucking genius. By the way,

Speaker 1 how about you do a joke that's a little undercooked in a special and then you still do it for a while on the road before it comes out?

Speaker 1 And I'm like, sometimes I still do them because I go, this thing is six minutes long now. It's so much better.

Speaker 3 I agree.

Speaker 1 And people go, oh, I think you did that. I go, I actually didn't.

Speaker 2 I did 30 seconds of it.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Now it's a very early version.

Speaker 1 You got a three-month-old versus a full adult. Yeah.
And I go, plus, who cares? That's the thing is like, is everyone really going, thank God I got this all new mediocre material?

Speaker 2 Thank you.

Speaker 3 That's what you got to tell the audience when they complain.

Speaker 3 You think this is bad.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah.
Let me do the whole hour of new.

Speaker 2 Yeah, fuck.

Speaker 1 Yeah, here's some new shit for you. But it's hard to, they're like, just throw together another hour.
I go, relax with that casual throw together an hour. You're good.

Speaker 1 I go, fuck, I got to get out there and grind it out and practice. It's hard.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it takes time, man. You're also going to have some shit you want to talk about.

Speaker 2 Like,

Speaker 3 I take time off. Like, after I felt, like, I haven't gone on stage since I recorded.
I went one time or something like that. And that's been months.
I probably won't go on for a little bit.

Speaker 3 I'll like live a little,

Speaker 3 experience shit, see what I want to talk about.

Speaker 1 Because people will yell out stuff to you in your act.

Speaker 2 Like, if they go, Diddy. What do you think of Diddy? And you have to go

Speaker 2 to the insulting.

Speaker 3 I'm not there. Oh, wait a minute.
Actually, that's they will do a topical thing.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 3 that's also like, that would only happen if I'm like just kind of meandering or not. Like, if I'm doing well, usually there's not suggestions.

Speaker 1 But if you're talking to the audience, do they feel like it's open season to talk from back here when you're talking to this person up here? Does that get hard to do?

Speaker 3 The last special, I did

Speaker 3 like the last one before this, I did a lot more like crowd work and stuff like that. And then people, and I was putting out these like clips that were crowd work.

Speaker 3 And it was just like, it was the only thing that I could generate weekly. Like for me, when I write a bit, it takes like a while to make it a good joke and add tags and all these other things.

Speaker 3 I didn't want to give it away. But they just, you know, they just would go viral and whatever.
So people were coming out and kind of expecting that. So at this special,

Speaker 3 I.

Speaker 3 I purposely barely

Speaker 3 do that at all as like a way to just go, hey,

Speaker 3 I get why you thought there would be a lot of crowd work because I put out all these crowd work clips. Now you see this whole hour.

Speaker 3 Now I want you to potentially expect this with maybe some interactions, but it's not going to be just interactions the whole time.

Speaker 3 Because it's very easy where, like, and I've seen this happen, like the algorithm can make you decide what kind of comedy you want to do instead of you deciding.

Speaker 3 And I think sometimes people fall victim to that.

Speaker 2 Like

Speaker 3 something does really well. So they go, well, I guess this this is what I do now.
And it's like, no.

Speaker 2 Sure. That's good of you to switch it up because

Speaker 1 it's hard to go in there and write a whole hour and not have any crutches. Cause sometimes, you know, you could go in and

Speaker 1 just with a few things, get things right back.

Speaker 1 But it's hard to go out there and practice long sets of nothing. It's just.

Speaker 3 Oh, and it's, you're bombing and it's brutal.

Speaker 2 And if you're in the store here.

Speaker 1 Or even when you're at the cellar, like when I went on last time, it was Nate was there and Chris Rock was there.

Speaker 2 And you you just go

Speaker 2 i'm not gonna try new shit because there's always someone there watching and you go yeah do i want them to go yes

Speaker 2 and i go yeah it's a little undercooked but there's something there but they just go yeah i just remember you bombed i i think a lot of people liked it man i think a lot of people were liking what you were doing out there oh when i did that night it was fun

Speaker 2 but when i that was me doing someone talking to you after oh yeah yeah i thought it was great instead of great they switch it to good right out in the middle that was good that was good

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Speaker 1 When I followed Dane and I just did a gig together, and when he comes off after annihilating, I have to follow this fucking asshole, and they're like killing. And then I get, he comes off all excited.

Speaker 1 And I go, hey, fuck that crowd. And he goes, huh?

Speaker 2 I go, look at it. It's not your crowd.

Speaker 1 Those jokes are funny, man. Don't second guess yourself.

Speaker 2 Why are they fucking standing? I'm not trying to run circles in the green room.

Speaker 2 I'm trying to fuck with his head right before I get out there.

Speaker 3 Not all crowds are going to be smart.

Speaker 2 They don't get you.

Speaker 2 It's great. When did you have that term where you're like, God damn, I'm getting really, really good at stand-up? I don't, I think it's like, was it gradual?

Speaker 3 I think you feel good and then you go up after Greer Barnes and you're like, am I good? You know, like there's just, you see people do it that are just incredible. You're like, am I?

Speaker 3 Or like, even when I was editing the special, like watching your own comedy

Speaker 3 a thousand times sickening. You're like, yeah, you're like, is any of this funny? Like, it's actually kind of nice because then when it comes out and people go, wow, this was so funny.

Speaker 2 You're like, oh, really? Like,

Speaker 2 editing is horrible. Editing, watching yourself do stand up.

Speaker 2 The worst thing in the world.

Speaker 1 Push in. I go, push out the door and burn this fucking thing.

Speaker 2 Push in.

Speaker 2 Closer. God damn, what

Speaker 2 That's for a horror movie. That's not comedy.

Speaker 1 That's for fucking Saw 3.

Speaker 2 It's the cowboy shot, you know?

Speaker 2 Keep it loosey-goosey.

Speaker 3 That's how I edit comedy, though, by the way, like a horror movie. What do you do? Go push it.

Speaker 2 For drama and stuff?

Speaker 3 It's like, yeah, tension release. Not as exaggerated, but like the same idea of...

Speaker 3 like I don't like for example like some people the director on mine like for the first take he was doing like a line cut, I think it's called, like, where they cut it.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Kind of live.
Yeah. Like,

Speaker 3 buddy, there's no way you don't have my set memorized. There's no way you could guess the right angle to go to.
You don't know which way my head turn. Like, why are you wasting your time with this?

Speaker 3 Like, it makes no sense.

Speaker 3 What was that? We said it's like catching a fart with chopsticks. Like comedy, I don't know where my head's going to go.
So it's like, we, what we do is make sure all the cameras are filming it.

Speaker 3 And then we get in the edit. and then we make sure that I'm not jumping out in the middle of a setup.

Speaker 2 Setup, yeah. That's distracting.

Speaker 1 They can kill jokes. Go on your back all of a sudden.

Speaker 2 You're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, what are we doing?

Speaker 3 Have you seen that? You're watching somebody special and it's like in the middle of a punchline, they cut to the back of their head.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Like the start of the setup is on their back. And you're like, why would I, has anybody ever told you a story and turned around first?

Speaker 1 And you pay more attention?

Speaker 2 You're like, you know what it is.

Speaker 2 Sometimes you're watching it like someone is watching it on a sitting in a magic chair and they're watching the special, and all of a sudden they're flying way back up in the auditorium and then raining close and then in the back of the head.

Speaker 2 And like they get tired of just watching the stand-up. And so the amount of cuts, you're like, fuck, I'm exhausted.
So

Speaker 2 yeah, it's like build things.

Speaker 3 Also, like, I don't ever do a crane. Like, nothing has ever been funnier because the shot went like that.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Drive by your joke, drive-by joke.

Speaker 3 They're telling me they're like, The crane is $25,000. I'm like, What? Like, what for what? Just to show

Speaker 3 you a big production.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they like to show it's a big house because I said in mine, could I do a smaller place? They're like, They like to show that they paid for you and it's a big theater.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, I think people would believe that I also do theaters, but it's fun to get into a smaller room. So I think down the line, I will switch it up.

Speaker 2 How big was the room for life?

Speaker 2 You know, we did

Speaker 3 3,000, but that was bigger than I would want to do.

Speaker 3 We were going to do this other venue and then they canceled my tapings after Trump was on the pod, which they say is unrelated and I believe them 100%.

Speaker 3 But we

Speaker 3 so we moved from that venue to the beacon and

Speaker 3 I would usually, I like the venue to be under 2,000 seats for

Speaker 3 a taping.

Speaker 3 I think between 1,000 and 2,000 is the money spot because

Speaker 3 you can see every person in the room.

Speaker 3 You're with them. I don't think an arena is right for it.
I think it's a flex, but I don't think it like represents,

Speaker 3 I don't think it's a good representation of like how connected you are.

Speaker 3 Also, like the amount of time you have to wait in between laughs in an arena is a lot different than the person at home laughing. So now at home, they're going, ha ha ha,

Speaker 3 but on stage, you're still waiting for the arena.

Speaker 2 So now they're dissipating.

Speaker 1 I'm like, how do you, it's so different to go out when it's all the lights for the tunnels are out there for like at the basketball game. And there's so many things going on.

Speaker 1 By the way, if I, if they want me to do an arena, I will do it and I'll film something

Speaker 2 immediately as a flex,

Speaker 1 even if I bomb or just do 10 minutes. But

Speaker 1 I think mine is about 1700. It was about that pocket of a place I played I liked.

Speaker 2 Where was it? Where'd it do it?

Speaker 1 It was in Denver.

Speaker 2 Oh, which right?

Speaker 1 And Denver's, what's it called, Heather?

Speaker 2 Paramount. So great, great theater, great audience.

Speaker 1 Always, when I played Comedy Works and stuff, it was always great audiences there.

Speaker 3 Yeah, they have good vibes out there. Good vibes.

Speaker 2 They like it.

Speaker 2 I like 50 to 70 if I, for myself, because of people.

Speaker 2 Doing little sketches, doing little people talking to each other and stuff.

Speaker 1 Spain is hand hand magic.

Speaker 2 And,

Speaker 2 you know,

Speaker 2 the last special, I worked it out in 50 Cedars, and then I did it in the 1900s.

Speaker 2 I just love the idea.

Speaker 2 Anyone use dental flaws?

Speaker 2 But I like the smaller. That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 3 I think it's better for the audience. I think the people watching at home enjoy it more personally.

Speaker 2 The 10%ers like the big room, you know, to show people,

Speaker 2 look what you can draw and stuff. I get that.
But creatively, you know, I think a tight.

Speaker 3 It's better for comedy in a small room, 100%. It's better for our bank accounts in a big room.
And oftentimes we will let our bank accounts win that war.

Speaker 2 Dick Trump.

Speaker 2 That's a question I had for you.

Speaker 2 Would you do? any commercial that they offered you if the money was good enough or discern discerning have you been offered commercials?

Speaker 3 No, I mean, no, I don't get offered really commercials, but like, there's like certain things I just, I don't know if I could, I don't know if I want to do it. I don't have like a moral objection.

Speaker 3 Like, I got gambling advertising on the pod. You know, I got a boner pill.
I'll do all that kind of shit.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Listen, boners don't go out of style. You're fine there.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 3 But like, I'm trying to think. I don't think I could do like a herpes medication commercial.

Speaker 2 You know,

Speaker 2 American Express pulling our office.

Speaker 2 But yeah, not bio. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We were going to do a collab with you on that, but it's okay.

Speaker 2 That'd be great. Imagine.

Speaker 1 All right. Anything else for this young man, Dana?

Speaker 2 This is life on Netflix now.

Speaker 2 Being well received.

Speaker 3 Yeah, thank you guys so much, man.

Speaker 2 I really appreciate it, buddy. Good to see you.
It's fun hanging out with you.

Speaker 2 Yeah, let's,

Speaker 3 any way I can help with that film, man, let me know.

Speaker 3 I'm really excited about that.

Speaker 1 I'll talk to you off cam.

Speaker 1 This has been a presentation of Odyssey. Please follow, subscribe, leave a like, a review, all the stuff, smash that button, whatever it is, wherever you get your podcasts.

Speaker 1 Fly on the Wall is executive produced by Dana Carvey and David Spade, Jenna Weiss-Berman of Odyssey, and Heather Santoro. The show's lead producer is Greg Holtzman.