SUPERFLY #61 - Tommy Boy Turns 30!

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Speaker 2 Albuquerque, okay. Portland, I've been a lot of people 5,000 feet.

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Speaker 1 Give me some of your week before we get into the hard-hitting stories.

Speaker 2 Went to L.A., flew. My wife and I flew to Sun Valley.

Speaker 2 I'm not the happiest flyer, but it was nice. It was one of those kind of smaller planes, maybe a 40-seater.
I don't know how Kevin Nealon would have done in this thing.

Speaker 2 I mean, I hit my head constantly.

Speaker 2 Oh, you hit your head.

Speaker 1 And Kevin Neal is a good one.

Speaker 2 I'm hitting my head. I'm land of the giants in this thing.
And then if you come into Sun Valley, I'm kind of like, okay,

Speaker 2 it's kind of tight. We're going to make a turn.
I'm not really. I look out and it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, what? I mean, it literally, I couldn't exaggerate how close the mountains were.

Speaker 2 Have you ever flown in there?

Speaker 1 You could.

Speaker 1 I always think, do you guys know what you're doing?

Speaker 2 Well, I found out later, and I'm not saying the airline or whatever, the flight attendant said, well,

Speaker 2 just they probably don't want me to tell you, but they have to have special training to be able to fly into Sun Valley. So you get extra training.
So they get in some simulator.

Speaker 2 So we got shitbox hills on both sides. We'll try to snake through.
That's right, Clem. Pass.

Speaker 2 dude terrifying it's like aspen is a little scary so it's 6 000 feet you feel a little funny you know unless you hydrate um

Speaker 2 so oh you get sick yeah altitude yeah i do the gig i do three or four meet and greets mix and mingle is different than a meet and greet grip it and rip it what's it called a grab and grip or something um a grip and grin Grip and grin.

Speaker 2 It's fine. It's part of the thing.
Everyone's incredibly nice.

Speaker 2 Everyone is all ruddy faced and they look like they're about to ruddy face well they're just sort of they're they're in puffer jackets and boots tucked in and they're ready to ski it's like a nice area am i crazy it's gorgeous it's gorgeous and uh

Speaker 2 we

Speaker 2 had the flight wasn't until five and we stayed there we weren't really thinking about anything so we'll pick you up at three

Speaker 2 15 minutes to noon they say uh hello this the frontes we need you out by noon we need you out in 15 minutes we got stuff out of your room Yeah, get out. I go,

Speaker 2 what do I

Speaker 2 get out now? I mean, stuff was,

Speaker 2 we were ready to gathered up, but then our contact person bought us two hours so we could get out at two. So we went down to have lunch.

Speaker 2 And I don't want to exaggerate how mellow this waiter was, but he literally.

Speaker 2 He took our order and he's about seven feet away.

Speaker 2 So I'm about to fly. So I'm like, could I have a beer? And he goes,

Speaker 2 ah, huh.

Speaker 2 Oh.

Speaker 2 He didn't even say yes. He just, I

Speaker 2 think, about,

Speaker 2 I don't know, gummies are just so mellowed out to gummies.

Speaker 2 He's like,

Speaker 2 what kind? I go, I don't know. Stella Trois.

Speaker 2 I'll check. So then 10 minutes later, it comes back.
We don't have that.

Speaker 2 Well, I'll take anything. What do you got? You got this? He goes, let me go check.
So he's gone another 10 minutes. He comes back.
And he's like,

Speaker 2 I go, do you have like core slide or something? I think so. So anyway, it took 40 minutes, but he's a very nice guy.
But yeah,

Speaker 2 he was mellow. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I did a flight where

Speaker 1 two things that bother me now. One is.

Speaker 2 Good.

Speaker 1 Do you ever get the window shade? It doesn't go down. You need a ball peen hammer.
I'm like,

Speaker 1 it's like

Speaker 1 to put it up. Flusses my weakling neck.
I'm like,

Speaker 1 trying to, you know, military it straight up and then dish, dish, dish.

Speaker 2 And then

Speaker 1 for that, you know, because it just goes up like a quarter inch every time. Like, I can't spend this much effort and energy just to be blinded by the glare.
And then the pilot does this bullshit.

Speaker 1 I don't know if you noticed this. You get on and you're just sitting there.
And they go, well, we got everybody on. We're about to push off.

Speaker 2 Just waiting for a little bit of paperwork from the flight attendant. I'm like, paperwork? Are we?

Speaker 1 Do you have a briefcase?

Speaker 2 Who is physical paperwork?

Speaker 1 He's like, we're just waiting for a Xerox copy of a couple of things.

Speaker 2 And then,

Speaker 1 does anyone out there have a printer? I mean, what are we talking about? Does anyone email you anything?

Speaker 2 Yeah. Jesus, you're going to be fuffling with envelopes when you want to be getting on the joystick to get us vertical.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you got to collate some documents first.

Speaker 2 I mean, I'll tell you what, yeah,

Speaker 1 who comes in like the mechanic? Like, if you could just initial here, press hard, four copies.

Speaker 2 Oh, they do sometimes. They have to sign off on the plane, and the guys, the technicians, are coming in and out.

Speaker 2 They got big orange jackets on, they're coming out of the cockpit and they're shaking their heads.

Speaker 2 And we had some technical issues, and it is just that some idiot in the back couldn't get the window up. It's usually like a tiny thing, like

Speaker 2 each car has a stray wheel. But here's two things: I i didn't want to be a silly senior during the flight it's like okay you press a button and then the thing comes over the tray

Speaker 2 and so this particular plane i'd never been on you know you press the button and it folds out from inside and then you have a tray so everything that easy no but everything i tried the tray didn't come out but i said i didn't want to ask for help okay i'll press down i'll press here So fly to tenant 27 right out of Utah State.

Speaker 2 All right, let me get that for you, sir. Press the button.
Boom.

Speaker 2 The other one that bugged me, now that you remind me, is he goes, Well, we have, it's a one, one plane in, one plane out. So we're going to have to wait a little bit

Speaker 2 unless something happens. It said, fly to tenants sit, take your seats.
There's a, we can, we can go now. You know, so everything is a little intense.

Speaker 1 They go, just take a time, relax. Actually, we got a window.
Let's go. Everybody's shit out of shit.

Speaker 2 Exactly.

Speaker 2 We're fourth in the line up here. But if everybody seats the, so anyway.

Speaker 1 Oh, fuck. They moved us.
Go, go, go, go.

Speaker 2 Scramble. Go, go, go.

Speaker 2 One guy goes, we were going to wait an hour.

Speaker 1 We get to go now. I'm like, we were going to wait an hour? I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 So I did my rodeo shtick to make, because the flight of 10, I could shake her hand. That's how small the plane was.
So I did my rodeo star. I'll go back here on an airplane.

Speaker 2 So I loosen the seatbelt as far as I can. I grab the edge of it and I say to her, rodeo guy on an airplane.
And I go like this.

Speaker 1 And you zip it tighter, though.

Speaker 2 You zip it super tight as if he's gone a horse. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's good. I saw that.

Speaker 2 Yeah. So she loved it.

Speaker 1 I saw that live when we flew to our game.

Speaker 2 I did it. Yeah, I do.
I have plain shtick.

Speaker 1 You got some shtick. We have some solid shtick.

Speaker 1 I don't have any more great stories, but oh, should we introduce Pete? We'll talk about Tommy Boy anniversary real quick.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. The one last thing.
Our car got robbed at LAX. Oh, wait a second.

Speaker 1 This is a headline.

Speaker 2 Well, we decided, fuck it, let's go old school. We had a lot of time.
All right, let's drive the

Speaker 2 airport, man so you got a horrible idea l AX so first of all it's like is it fucking east west north or south so we're fun we're suddenly make go around a roundabout we're heading away from the airport yeah I don't

Speaker 2 know that's that's where the control tower is and it's getting smaller

Speaker 2 and then we get we get up on top we park the car

Speaker 2 And when we come back to the car, we know, what the fuck? So it looks like ramshackle inside. So we open it up.
They did, I had a mini iPad there. They didn't take it.

Speaker 2 What they did was they left a big red canvas bag in the front seat, left it.

Speaker 1 Left it.

Speaker 2 And I said,

Speaker 2 fucking clue.

Speaker 2 We went down there for Prince. And we saw the two, you know, whatever airport police people.
There's no way they're going to bust anyone. They were smoking weed down by the

Speaker 2 machine.

Speaker 2 Yeah, man. I mean, so anyway,

Speaker 2 we got rid of the red canvas bag. We got out of there, but that was strange.
And we know why it happened because it was my wife's car. My car, if you walk away, it locks.

Speaker 2 Her car, you have to put your hand on the handle. So I went back for something.
And long story short. No, you didn't.

Speaker 2 We made it home safely. And now we're here now.

Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 1 I like these,

Speaker 1 you know. things that happen in real life.
That's a tough one. I would get so infuriated if that happened.

Speaker 2 It gets a weird feeling like someone got into our car and was shuffling through it trying to get stuff.

Speaker 1 Someone fucked with you. It feels like bullying, feels like shit.
And of course, no one does anything.

Speaker 1 And then they, if you go to the police, they go in LA, of course, like, you know, what you should do is put a cage under your car so people can't get under and get your catalytic converter.

Speaker 1 You know what else you should do? Is you should put more locks. I'm like, how about throw criminals in jail?

Speaker 2 They're like, no,

Speaker 1 that's where we draw the line.

Speaker 2 We have a plan. We're working on it.
But right now, we don't really, that's not our thing. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We don't criminals in jail,

Speaker 1 the fucking good guys being the victim. You know, it's like the good guys are the ones they go after.
And I don't know. Because I just saw in England, it was one of our stories coming up.

Speaker 1 It's like, you know, it's bad when everyone's carrying a machete.

Speaker 1 And now, you know, they're carrying a lot of machetes. Now machetes are illegal to carry around the streets.

Speaker 1 When was that okay? If I saw someone with a machete, I'd shit my pants.

Speaker 1 And so many people are walking with machetes to rob people and hack people on the streets that they go, okay, it was fun for a while, but Icksney on the machetes.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 2 isn't that crazy? The machete, the name of it and the strength of it, it's a fucking scare. You're walking around with a sword.
You can behead someone in a second.

Speaker 2 I knew someone, Francis Coronin, he was in the Irish Army, in the UN, in Africa.

Speaker 2 And when you would talk, he'd go into the town, you'd talk to townspeople. Most of the time, the dudes had a machete just in their hand, just sort of just walking around.

Speaker 1 You would make me

Speaker 1 a little give me anxiety. Yeah.
Because what are you doing with a machete? Even a knife is bad, but a machete means real biz.

Speaker 2 I'm up to really no good. What I would do is have a fully loaded bazooka and just be holding that and just chatting, like, you know, I don't know, partly cloudy tomorrow.

Speaker 2 I'm not sure what's up, but who could do the sound effects of a bazooka going off?

Speaker 1 You rack it in there and then,

Speaker 1 no, it would be, it would be louder than that.

Speaker 2 Slow motion.

Speaker 2 Just a reverb from the hill.

Speaker 2 The kick.

Speaker 2 It's that.

Speaker 2 And then it comes in.

Speaker 1 but dude, machete, you don't have to be a pro, you just start swinging that thing, and you're going to cause some damage.

Speaker 2 I know. So, I'm glad that England's come for their swords.

Speaker 1 Okay, when we come back from this Pete Siegel interview, we're going to show the stories about the machete just to show it's not made up.

Speaker 1 Okay, so Pete Siegel, my director from Tommy Boy, it's the anniversary of Tommy Boy, so we wanted to talk, talk about it today. Yep, and uh, I hear about it maybe every day in my life.

Speaker 2 Um, yeah,

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 let's let's go to Pete. We chatted with him about all things trivia, Tommy Boy, and we'll be right back with it.
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Speaker 2 Welcome to our special edition.

Speaker 1 Welcome to our special edition of Superfly with a spin on Tommy Boy, the anniversary, which I don't like to say what anniversary it is.

Speaker 2 But it's a lot. It's a while back.

Speaker 2 Number three. And we have the director.

Speaker 1 That didn't take long.

Speaker 2 The director of the movie is actually talking with us so yes this is pete segal who had a huge hand in making tommy boy hit and uh thanks for coming on thank you for having me

Speaker 1 yes we are excited to have you um yeah the funny thing about tommy boy is i keep reading um different stories about it because you know it's the anniversary so more things pop out. You and I probably

Speaker 1 are in charge of some of these stories.

Speaker 1 But there's just so many. I wanted you to tell Dana first, and then we'll get into you just saying anything you want about it, was

Speaker 1 when you got hired, the hiring process, because I remember it got a little sticky.

Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 3 I had worked with Farley twice before, Tommy Boy, once on an HBO special I did with Judd Appetow, and then

Speaker 3 on a sitcom, The Jackie Thomas Show, which was sort of a loose spin-off of Roseanne.

Speaker 3 And so I just knew him from those things. And I just thought, gosh, you know, if I ever got to direct a movie, I would love to do his first starring role.

Speaker 3 And then about a year later, I get this script on my desk. I had then gone on to make my first movie, Naked Gun, the last one.

Speaker 3 And got this script called Billy the Third a Midwestern.

Speaker 3 And I didn't really know anything about the process. I've learned a lot over the years since then how that got to me.
And I said to Lauren, I said, I've got

Speaker 2 a lot of notes because

Speaker 3 I love these guys, but the story is kind of wonky. And he said, well, just, you know, go in and tell the Turners what you think.
And I said, do I hold back?

Speaker 2 He goes, no, no, just go in. Everything.
Pretty good Lauren writers, the Turners.

Speaker 3 So I went in and just, you know, bew, bew, bew, bew, guns ablazing, notes, notes, notes.

Speaker 2 And they looked at me with blank expressions and it was, bye-bye. And I left, and that was it.

Speaker 3 And then I thought, okay, well, I guess I blew that one.

Speaker 3 Weeks went by, weeks and weeks. And I get this, and I think I check with my agent.
Hey, have they hired anybody yet? Oh, they're still looking.

Speaker 3 I'm like, okay, yeah, maybe some other people are feeling the same way. So I get a call then from Sherry.
She said, I want you to come back in and tell me everything. that you told Terry and Bonnie.

Speaker 3 I want to hear it myself.

Speaker 2 The head of Paramount, sorry. Oh, Sherry Lansing.

Speaker 3 So I thought, uh-oh, I feel like honey on the causeway. You know, I'm all alone.

Speaker 2 So I went in.

Speaker 2 I hit that hallway, that long hallway to her office, and the door opened like she knew I was coming and just arms out, honey.

Speaker 3 And I,

Speaker 3 she, you know, the hook line and sinker, they were in. Well, they were also desperate.
They had, you know, blown the hiatus. They desperately needed someone to come on.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 3 So that's how I got it.

Speaker 2 That was part one. This is a long story.
So I'll just stop.

Speaker 1 I like when it gets a little ugly.

Speaker 2 The time frame is the hiatus because of the summer hiatus messing out. Yeah.
So there's a time problem.

Speaker 1 We have a window.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 3 And we blew that window. And what that means is now Dave and Chris are going to be having to fly back and forth doing Saturday Night Live and shooting a movie in Toronto at the same time.

Speaker 2 Oh, right. This isn't bad.
They could do it.

Speaker 3 You know, and it made the movie more expensive, too, because what could have taken

Speaker 3 30 days was now going to take 45 days because we only shot three days a week with the guys.

Speaker 1 And did you stay in Toronto and just chill and maybe try to do pickup shots or anything you could without us?

Speaker 3 Yeah, I remember one time, you know, with Farley especially, no one could double him, you know, so

Speaker 3 all his own stunts because he was a better athlete than any of the stunt guys his size. But one day,

Speaker 3 I had to shoot a shot of Tommy Callahan walking away from the funeral down this row of beautiful fall foliage. And I used his double.
Chris hated it because he said, that's not how I walk.

Speaker 3 No more of that. I'm going to do every single shot.
I'm like, okay.

Speaker 2 Well, then we're just here and wait.

Speaker 1 Who was this guy? Danny? What is it? Remember his stuntman? I think he used him a lot. I don't know.
No, mine was Danny.

Speaker 2 His was probably a great stuntman. I'm going to go to him, by the way.

Speaker 1 Yeah, great stuntman. The walking

Speaker 1 is a a good inside baseball thing to talk about because actors get very particular about that.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Well, the first time I went to, I think Chris was new to the show, went to an SNO party.
We're out on the sidewalk.

Speaker 2 Hey, lady, whatever he does, and then he just jumps up in the air and just flies on his back on the cement. You know, so this guy was a stunt.
I mean, who's going to jump?

Speaker 1 He could show off for you.

Speaker 2 He could really throw his body around, obviously. And he probably got hurt quite a bit.

Speaker 3 Well, Dave, you tell him about the 2x4.

Speaker 1 The 2x4 at the dinosaur place,

Speaker 1 Prehistoric Forest.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Well,

Speaker 1 you know, I don't really remember this except

Speaker 1 remembering on the day of they take it and they score it. So they take a 2x4.

Speaker 1 Part of it's, it's supposed to break easy and it's made of balsa wood, maybe.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 3 With a little rubber padding on one edge.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know how it is, Dana.
So, but I'm supposed to hit him in the face. We start a fight, which is a funny scene.
We have this huge fight.

Speaker 1 But he sticks his head out to get hit. And of course, it's not an exact science, but I swing.

Speaker 1 And I think,

Speaker 1 I don't know if it didn't break or did break, but Pete, you might know more. But I definitely hurt him a little bit on those because.

Speaker 1 Even if you get hit by an egg carton empty, it still hurts if someone's swinging it at you. Try not to hurt the guy, but it's almost impossible.
They didn't have it perfected.

Speaker 1 You finished that one.

Speaker 2 no it uh i think you hit him with the hard part of the two by four and yes it broke and he went down and

Speaker 3 you know uh yeah that that must have stung he was he was

Speaker 2 yeah

Speaker 1 well he he he was very good at taking hits and also i no one else knows how hard he's getting hit you know you can't tell and that was obviously a problem and um but he just gets up so uh probably stage five concussion should have been choppered out of there.

Speaker 1 But when he

Speaker 1 doesn't want to show any weakness and he wants to show he's a pro and he wants to always get hit and fall down and show that, look, this doesn't bother me.

Speaker 1 And that's a pro, but it's also tough because these days there's probably more

Speaker 1 scrutiny on it. But, you know, we're running sort of ragtag mission out there.
And we didn't really know. I don't think Pete knew.
And we, we just.

Speaker 1 It just, you go back and I think, remember one time when the coat didn't rip when he was doing fat kind of little coat, and he's going, he's screaming because I saw this on some outtakes lately.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they made it too tight, and he's trying to rip it. Just, it's really hard to rip a regular coat without being scored and cut in the back.

Speaker 1 So, he's screaming, and he gets mad because he's like putting everything into it, every take.

Speaker 2 That's the hard part. No rips.

Speaker 2 Could I, I just have a question going back a little bit because I want you as a director and just in the broad strokes without laying claim, but just what was the, besides whatever the story was, the first draft, because you got, you know, the first draft people just kind of throw it out there.

Speaker 2 What was your, besides the specific notes, what was missing and what did you capture? Because obviously the movie is now a classic comedy. I mean, it's, it's the movie.

Speaker 2 And so can you remember like the core things you were trying to figure out with that script?

Speaker 3 Yes.

Speaker 3 Originally, I think Lauren had pitched the show. Obviously, this was a vehicle for Dave and Chris, but the story had a lot of the Rob Lowe character in it.

Speaker 3 And he was a lot more integral in that story. And as a matter of fact, it was more about them being stepbrothers.

Speaker 3 And I thought, I don't think that's the story. I think the story is about the two guys who do not get along at Callahan, who have to work together and save the factory and save the town.

Speaker 3 And I also thought that there was, you know, another story between a father and son.

Speaker 3 And I knew that that was very important to chris because he had a very close relationship with his dad and so those two things

Speaker 3 unraveled you know what we had in the first draft from the turners and then who are great writers by the way great writers they're great writers i just had a different take and then lauren said okay i'm gonna send you out you know some some help and he sent out uh jim downey and fred wolf and downey came out uh he had apparently just fallen in some poison ivy and he was

Speaker 1 fallen into a vat of poison?

Speaker 3 His face was caked with calamine lotion, but like dried up, kind of peeling.

Speaker 3 And he came out and talked

Speaker 3 for like a week. We had lunches and I heard stories.

Speaker 3 And then

Speaker 3 after a week, I was starting to panic because this was the week that the script was going to be saved.

Speaker 1 You mean you're just talking, but nothing's going to be done.

Speaker 2 That's how down he writes. He talks about everything else in the back of his giant brain.
Things are happening.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. And then finally on Friday,

Speaker 3 they were going to catch a plane to go back to New York.

Speaker 2 I said, so what about this?

Speaker 3 And I held up the script. He goes, oh, that's, I can't help you with that.

Speaker 2 I can't.

Speaker 2 He was there for a week.

Speaker 1 Fucking Tony. I love it.

Speaker 3 And then I remembered walking, you know, in the parking lot at Paramount, and I told Fred, I said, dude, you guys are my lifesaver. That was a swing and a miss.

Speaker 3 I'm out. And so I quit.

Speaker 2 So you quit.

Speaker 1 Oh, listen to this. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 And this is Fred Wolf now.

Speaker 3 Yo, I was telling Fred because you know, he's my pal. I knew him from before this.

Speaker 2 You're really good. That's really funny.
No, you're seriously.

Speaker 1 I'm just going to tell you something, Pete. Just, I'm going to talk about Dana.

Speaker 2 I want to talk to you. No, seriously, PD.

Speaker 2 Anyway,

Speaker 2 go ahead. So you quit.

Speaker 3 I quit on a Friday and on a Sunday. You want it ugly, Dave.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I'll give you ugly.
So I heard it.

Speaker 3 I get the phone rings, and my wife answers it, and then she covers it and says, it's Sherry.

Speaker 3 Oof. Sherry Lansing.
And

Speaker 3 apparently this wasn't the first time that she used this method, but she said, I have a team of attorneys speeding to the station, to the studio right now to strategize how to sue you for tens of millions of dollars and to take your home from you.

Speaker 2 And I said, Have you seen my home?

Speaker 2 Have you been to the home?

Speaker 1 It's on wheels you can just pull it

Speaker 3 i said check me fine i'll go but this is going to be a disaster and she said honey i know you're going to make it great and i have to say you know she you know all these years later uh she was uh

Speaker 2 so responsible for helping us keep this thing together and here we are talking about it 30 years later i credit her It seemed like it was a natural thing because of the history of like Laurel and Hardy and, you know, sort of Chris, which we can talk about more about being sort of quintessential as far as a big comedian and throwing his body around.

Speaker 2 And then David and them being at that, very close friends, the chemistry, you know, it's the, it's the comedy team. It's, it's Wayne and Garth.
It's Abbott Costello. So I think focusing on that

Speaker 2 obviously worked beautifully. And you had Roblox and you had the other stuff, but yeah, and Brian Denahy got that in.

Speaker 1 Brian Denney's so solid.

Speaker 2 Bo Derrick, great in the movie.

Speaker 3 But you know, the interesting thing is uh chris was obviously hilarious on his own but you know dave you were the engine you know to that machine of the two of you you had to be you know you would pitch and he would hit and he would knock it out of the park but those balls wouldn't be flying anywhere if it wasn't for you getting under his skin you know and and getting that out of him you know Yeah, I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 I mean, you know, those kind of movies, it is, obviously, it could not be done without Chris. I think there's people that could have played my part, but it was, I lucked into it.
And

Speaker 1 it was really fun to figure it out as we went and all of us up there and just taking a movie about brake pads, you know, and trying to make it funny because that's the original

Speaker 2 two losers with a dream, or it's just always a likable motif for a comedy film. They're on their adventure.
They're trying to make it, you know, and

Speaker 2 but they're liking really

Speaker 1 huge. Dana, when uh you know we're doing it out of sequence obviously we're flying back and forth I'm getting skinnier he's getting fatter

Speaker 2 and

Speaker 1 we both feel sick and tired and the whole time and so when it's all over

Speaker 1 we know that scenes are funny but we don't know how the movie's gonna be you know that's the problem with shooting out of sequence which if people know that's pretty much every single movie you could shoot the the the finale the first day you don't really even know what your characters are like or you're not really gelled into it but that's the hard part.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 it's up to Pete to put it together. And so, Pete, and also Bill Kerr, the editor, but Pete's putting together these driving shots, adds some music, just makes it all make sense.

Speaker 1 And the way he shot it, we can't tell because I don't know if we had playback back then.

Speaker 3 We did, but

Speaker 2 yeah,

Speaker 1 maybe we weren't the ones to watch playback. You know what I mean? It was sort of up to Pete, but the point is, he made it all flow, added so much more.

Speaker 1 So when you see it, yes, it's funny performances, but everybody cannot. There's so many people that cannot drop the ball.
The editor can't, Pete can't. We can't.

Speaker 1 And if you get it all right, you know, you've been in a couple of those that when it works, it's so hard to get it right.

Speaker 2 Director's medium and landing the pathos on the boat at the end.

Speaker 2 That's unique where it doesn't come off forced. It really comes off like, whoa, that hits you.

Speaker 3 Well, we had, when we started filming, only 66 pages because

Speaker 2 we started over. That's

Speaker 2 a little light in the loafers.

Speaker 1 That's just so we can start.

Speaker 1 We have to have a fake reason to go. Exactly.
Shoot something while they're writing or whatever.

Speaker 3 And so the fact that you guys were at SNL gave Fred and me extra time to work on the script.

Speaker 3 And so as we were going, it was so exhausting because of this pressure of, you know, laying the train tracks out in front of the locomotive every day that we did not know how the story was going to end.

Speaker 3 I had no idea.

Speaker 3 And then Fred came up with a miracle scene, the scene where the guys are walking with Dan Aykroyd in the factory and the test dummies and all that. And that came in.

Speaker 3 And suddenly I thought, oh, okay, I see how the story can end. But how can we wrap this up emotionally? And I always had this idea of

Speaker 3 Tommy talking to the spirit of his father up in this water tower that we built that we never actually used in the movie. And it was kind of corny and it didn't work, you know, what I was thinking.

Speaker 3 And so we're kind of stuck. And we called in this writer named Len Blum who had written Stripes.
Stripes. And

Speaker 3 I said, dude, I don't know how to end this movie emotionally. And he said, let me take a look at the footage.
And he saw the sailboat scene earlier after the funeral.

Speaker 3 And he said, well, why don't you just revisit that? And that's where he can be talking to the spirit of his father. And the answer will be the wind, you know, tear jerker.

Speaker 2 No, it landed.

Speaker 3 That was that was it.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Well, I just uh, this inside baseball, people would like it. Like when you first assembled and you do a test screening and you get cards back,

Speaker 2 what was the first uh test screening like? What was the range of the scores?

Speaker 3 Um, I think the highest score we got was an 82. So we started in the 70s.
But one thing,

Speaker 3 you know, because I had just come from Naked Gun and the Zucker brothers learned from the Marx brothers who rehearsed all of their movies in dinner theater so that by the time they got to the set, their material was tight and they knew what worked in front of a crowd and what didn't.

Speaker 3 That saved them. What the Zuckers did is they started recording the audiences sound-wise so that if you say, well, that got a big laugh.

Speaker 3 And then, you know, David, if you were there, said, it got kind of a medium.

Speaker 3 Well, well let's go to the tape it was empiric but then what we did i had just been given you know a sony handy cam for christmas and it had that night vision and so i said hey i got an idea why don't we hide this under the screen and so we can see the crowd and that'll help us shape the movie that was the first time night vision was ever used which is now standard

Speaker 2 Okay, so you see the crowd, you see the laughs, and then you're going to do a re-edit based on.

Speaker 3 If they don't laugh, you cut it out, you know, and then if you see them shifting in their seats they're bored look at what are we doing that's going slowly here you know that what was david spade's biggest laugh of the movie

Speaker 1 you know pete i have to say that if if i can remember back those old screenings i think

Speaker 1 maybe the one that tested the highest was the deer smashing the car and us watching. Maybe.
But over time, it is not the number one thing that is brought up.

Speaker 2 No. And what is?

Speaker 1 I mean, there's a, you know, what happens over time when people see it five, 10, 20 times? It's throwaway jokes that they remember. I mean, from Stripes, from all these old movies you picture.

Speaker 1 It's a Cinderella story and Caddyshack and just throwaway lines. But I think there was

Speaker 1 maybe fat guy in a little code, obviously people still are aware of.

Speaker 3 One of my favorites was caught from you guys. And Fred and I were just like desperate to write down anything that you guys did funny in your interaction.

Speaker 3 Farley comes out of a wardrobe test in his suit, the iconic brown tweed, and he said, David, does this suit make me look fat? And you fire back. No, your face does.
I'm like, that's going in.

Speaker 3 And that's how we just, we heard about this thing he would do at SNL, fat guy in a little coat.

Speaker 2 Okay, we'll put that in.

Speaker 3 But he never sung it. You know?

Speaker 2 Yeah, that was a good one.

Speaker 3 One thing that happened in the boredom of making a movie, because you and Chris were used to live TV, one take, three cameras, done.

Speaker 2 Suddenly, we're doing multiple takes, multiple angles, and it would get boring. But in that boredom, so I shoot fat guy little coat.

Speaker 3 I shoot Chris's side, done. I turn around because we only had one camera, we were low budget.
I turn around getting Dave. And I thought we were done.

Speaker 3 That night, Bill Kerr, our editor, calls me and he says, oh my God, you got to go back and reshoot this. I'm like, What are you talking about? You didn't hear Farley off camera.

Speaker 3 He started singing it and getting all goofy.

Speaker 2 I'm like, kid? He goes, Yeah, look at the dailies.

Speaker 3 So I looked at him and sure enough, we turned around the next day and reshot it.

Speaker 2 Because Chris was talking and singing while David was bored, so he just starts fucking around. So the sound was messed up and he was just bored and didn't know how movies were made.

Speaker 2 Like his sound was got it.

Speaker 1 I think he was just doing it not even to get just like bored. And then it sounded actually funnier.

Speaker 1 i remember i saw an outtake recently that i don't remember of course where we're in bed at the hotel and and he talks about zelensky and i go

Speaker 1 and uh and then chris starts hysterically laughing and i try to hold the take because maybe you you use that one but when people laugh it's funny but sometimes you can't use it but if you wait a hair longer you can cut away after yeah but he laughs and he goes what a dick

Speaker 1 because i don't know i guess it was the same thing, just giving it a different reading because of

Speaker 1 just we've done it too many times, you know, that kind of thing. Yeah, sometimes things happen.

Speaker 2 That is the thing about film is you're supposed to not, the crew's not supposed to laugh, and no one's supposed to laugh.

Speaker 2 And so, there's this dinner table tension at Thanksgiving where you're not so where someone's saying the Lord's Prayer, and so you're laughing.

Speaker 2 So, there's that tension there that does create kind of fun moments.

Speaker 3 I remember seeing one of the another outtake I'd forgotten about was was we shot most of what was Callahan in some abandoned post office, and it had holes in the roof, and birds would get in, and birds would start chirping like crazy, having a fight in the middle of takes, and Chris could not hold it together because he just keeps looking up at the birds on the test.

Speaker 1 Did you know

Speaker 1 it was there, I remember there was some scuttlebutt about Beauder cutting her hair, or is that not true?

Speaker 3 I don't remember that.

Speaker 1 I just remember that. She had long hair from, obviously, everyone knows from the movie 10.
Right. And she was doing a different movie and she came right to the set and she had short hair.

Speaker 1 And I don't think anyone knew. And we didn't know if, I don't know if it was an issue or not.
I think everyone was just surprised.

Speaker 3 I don't. Yeah.
It kind of rings a bell. And I just heard an interview she was doing just a couple of days ago where she said she was not even shooting another movie.

Speaker 3 She was doing another business in Asia.

Speaker 3 And she came and was

Speaker 3 got a phone call and was on the set the next day, coming out of the pool in a bikini.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, yeah. I think I did hear that.

Speaker 3 And then she said, well, I must have been replacing someone. And they were, and I said, I don't think we had anybody.

Speaker 2 I don't remember.

Speaker 3 We were just so disgusted.

Speaker 2 You're disorganized.

Speaker 1 Disorganized. Yeah.

Speaker 3 And we were just hiring someone the next day.

Speaker 3 But so the first time I met her, she comes out and it's a, you know, they have to show the the wardrobe to the director and she comes out in a robe and she goes what is yes they do so she opens up her robe and i'm first thing i'm looking at is derek from 10 showing me this bikini on her i just stared straight at her eyes and said fine that's that's fine fine

Speaker 1 could not be more lovely she was such a sweetheart and such a great

Speaker 1 another addition you don't really talk about a lot but she was so good to have in there because people loved her you i think you said she was the biggest star in the movie right

Speaker 1 Uh, well, you know, like you said, just come off of 10. Yeah, yeah,

Speaker 1 and we had come off of nothing.

Speaker 2 Uh, also,

Speaker 1 was there, remember these old outtakes that I think Skippy had that they are somewhere, maybe I have now.

Speaker 1 By the way, Pete gifted me with Skippy. Um, we, uh,

Speaker 1 he, that, when, when he comes to the door during housekeeping, and I think you said, do one with Andy's on, one with maybe a

Speaker 1 robe, and then one with nothing.

Speaker 2 Yes. Right? Just to have it.
And then I did tell him: and whatever you do, for the love of God, do not turn around.

Speaker 3 Well, of course, that's all Chris needed to hear. So he turned around and started flailing around his wiener, just dancing straight into the camera.
And I just said, this film will be burned.

Speaker 2 We will not. He said, hi, Sherry.

Speaker 2 I think wish you mentioned that.

Speaker 2 Hi, Sherry.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't think those ever got out in the fun outtakes that I see on Instagram. Do you feel,

Speaker 1 I tell you, I felt spoiled coming from SNL with Dana and these guys, just on a writing level and performing level. And then I go to Tommy Boy,

Speaker 1 and then

Speaker 1 I've done, you know, some things in life I really love and some things that are a little tougher, you know.

Speaker 1 But don't you feel spoiled when you get on a set and it's not like that and you're like, oh my God, this is going to be tough.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 3 I mean, you know, people say because that movie is

Speaker 3 so well remembered, you must have had a blast making it. It wasn't fun making it.

Speaker 2 It wasn't that fun. Movies aren't fun to make.

Speaker 2 If you tell me it's a hit, I'll give you a hint.

Speaker 1 This will be a big tip for everybody. If you tell me it's a huge hit ahead of time, it will help a lot.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But the fact that you don't know and the bad ones are just as hard to make as the good ones yeah that's the unfair part yeah yes you know you worked all this you you did all this work and it and it makes your career worse

Speaker 2 that doesn't make sense no and sometimes when things are going too well i start to not trust it and then i get into a weird mood that oh everyone's so nice everything's so great everything's so funny this movie's gonna tank yeah you never know well i don't know if people understand this like what was your longest day because on budget film sometimes you got to go and go oh i know that one all right i mean because people that's why you don't even know if it's english and it's 24 hours how long i think i just saw i just saw pete on the set of bus boys and i i

Speaker 1 did i ask you this that the factory

Speaker 1 i think we did almost 24 hours is that possible close

Speaker 1 uh it was definitely because we went day to night and then we shot overnight until like six in the morning in the high teens did you say yeah it had to be wayne's world had a couple of of those where you're like, I think we only had it for, and we flew in on a weird thing, like us, you know, after the SNL after party, and then we start Sunday morning, and then we only have it for Sunday, but we go late, but they open Monday morning.

Speaker 1 So I think it was one of those where we all remember things differently. But I just remember that was, I think we had a lot of cast in it.

Speaker 1 We had a couple stunts and all that stuff just slows everything down.

Speaker 3 That was a long one, but I think the most painful one was cow tipping.

Speaker 2 Because

Speaker 3 with cow tipping because it was a night shoot

Speaker 2 in the cold, the great

Speaker 2 north.

Speaker 3 And I don't know, my God, it must have been zero degrees. And Chris had to, you know, dive in the mud under a cow.

Speaker 3 Where were you? Yeah. And the sun was coming up.
You know,

Speaker 3 if you look hard, you'll see right over his shoulder when he comes up with the mud mask. that you see the sun starting to rise and that we were just running out of time.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You remember remember the coldest day i'll tell you this dana

Speaker 2 dana's glazing over but here's the coldest day not at all i'm just cold right now this is a riveting uh reveal um

Speaker 1 i would say pete because it started getting cold and then it got cold fast spade from arizona was not ready and not loving it uh i would say probably in my estimation

Speaker 1 We're standing by a billboard yelling about the bees to the cops and then we're going, oh my God, Zelensky.

Speaker 1 And we're, I don't think, I think we we looped some of it because i couldn't formulate the words because my jaw was frozen well what are we what are we looking at i'll i'll see your uh cold and raise it on a movie i you'll see where we only have light clothes on were you in canada or

Speaker 2 toronto okay yeah my movie took place in ontario something like we were minus 30 celsius and me nicholas cage and

Speaker 2 oh paradise yeah trapped in paradise with john and we just walk fell we just fell down in the snow it was all night shoots, a lot of frostbite.

Speaker 2 We were wrapped up like the mummy, and then they take it off. And they was

Speaker 2 fans for the snow, you know, so everything was going to be overdubbed. But yeah, so you guys were definitely below zero, probably at night.

Speaker 2 Well, I think we're on, we were close to that because I remember the same.

Speaker 1 We can't keep shooting like, and night shoots on top of that. Like every movie I do now, we're like, let's do splits or let's do some other way.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Nights are the worst.

Speaker 2 Fucking nurse.

Speaker 1 Okay. Well, go one more day and then we've got to get Steve.

Speaker 2 It's like

Speaker 2 how to put in context this movie. You know, one thing I was going to say, and this will be a compliment alert for my partner

Speaker 2 in crime, in comedy, is David can really, he can do the cut. You know, he can like

Speaker 2 do a kind of little, but it's always likable. It never comes with teeth.
And so all his little put-downs of Chris just always never went to the other level. So that's the chemistry of the two of them.

Speaker 2 And then with Chris Farley, just thinking when you watch his, you know, Guy Down by the River and this movie and stuff, I just don't think we've seen another Chris Farley.

Speaker 2 There must be, at one point, we will.

Speaker 2 He's just a singularity in comedy in the last 30 years. And there's been brilliant people and brilliant movies, but he's something unique about him that is sort of irreplaceable right now.

Speaker 2 I mean, right?

Speaker 2 absolutely

Speaker 3 at the uh at the 50th snl 50th i bumped into paul walter hauser who's going to be playing chris oh chris farley story and i said look if you ever

Speaker 2 grab a lunch you know i'll tell you stories so that's gonna be funny he should gonna be i talked to him at one of my shows he came and we talked about it he's got a got an uphill battle but i said you know good luck to you the guy's a good actor so chris had that throaty when i'm just you know that thing that that's really hard to duplicate he he put so much into that you know that that that would be what i would try to advise that actor to try to get that tone and get that energy i says i says i says i says

Speaker 1 i go you're making that a full update bit he goes oh yeah

Speaker 1 you know he goes i says the guy i says the guy i says i says right to him i says i says i says and that's his whole bit i go a fucking full update? He's like, yep, and it's going to kill.

Speaker 2 And it did.

Speaker 2 Ah, shit.

Speaker 1 So funny.

Speaker 1 Well, Pete, thank you, bud. Thank you.
I will say to Dana's point quickly, when I'm on the bench, I don't know if it's your idea or whoever's idea.

Speaker 1 I'm kind of borderline mean to Chris, the whole movie. But when I'm on the bench and I say he's my only friend, that's...

Speaker 3 Erases it. Dude, I just watched, there was a screening last night.
And exactly when that scene came up, that was really nicely done, the way you did it. It was very genuine.
It was very real.

Speaker 3 And it kind of made the whole arc of your relationship with Tommy Callahan work, that scene.

Speaker 1 Yeah, mates. It helped it make sense.

Speaker 2 Put down, the put down, the put down, the put down.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because he just feels sorry for it.

Speaker 2 It's like a song, and then he's my only friend. It's just

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Okay, so that was Pete Siegel.

Speaker 1 Great talking to him.

Speaker 1 I do want to jump on that. We talked afterwards about

Speaker 1 a musical for Fat Guy and La Cote and the Tommy Boy musical.

Speaker 2 Yeah, the Tommy Boy musical. I was serious.

Speaker 1 And then on Broadway, and then we could do

Speaker 1 Richard, my character who never had a friend. And so I get to do a your idea, wasn't it?

Speaker 2 Yeah, you sing a little song. It'd be so funny.
I

Speaker 2 never had a friend.

Speaker 1 I walk away from Tommy on the bench and go sing.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And maybe I thought, this is interesting casting. I get played by Ariana Grande.

Speaker 1 And don't do anything to her. Just the way she does.
It just looks like me. Actually, she could pull her hair back.

Speaker 2 She looks like your little sister.

Speaker 1 Just put little bangs on, yeah.

Speaker 2 I'll tell you one thing, doing that S and L in the fall when she was host. That gal is multi-talented.
I mean, she,

Speaker 2 she could do anything. Literally, she could probably work up an impression of you if she had to.
She's

Speaker 2 incredible.

Speaker 1 I mean, i have to say i thought i was calling this early the last time she hosted that she uh i wanted to get word to her so funny and she's really good she did jennifer lawrence it was funny yeah then she goes in the thing where she sings all these different songs in the radio station different voices and she's so talented and she's such a little twig and she just rips it out with a great voice and she's cute funny i mean I don't know how she does it.

Speaker 1 That's a tough, that show is tough. And I'm so tough.
And it makes me crumble.

Speaker 2 But she,

Speaker 2 I did Jennifer Coolidge with her.

Speaker 2 Oh, that's right.

Speaker 2 And that, that was fun. She had a blast.
I mean, I think that people don't do sketch comedy all the time. When it's working,

Speaker 2 it's

Speaker 2 really fun.

Speaker 1 Right. I almost want to see Wicked, literally just for her, because I just want to see.
I know nothing about Wicked, but she's good and she sings well.

Speaker 2 She's Wizard of Oz, basically. Yeah.
Let's not.

Speaker 1 Did you know that Oz never did give nothing to the tin man

Speaker 2 that he

Speaker 2 didn't already have who is that go you go i know what it is already i'm just saying for people listening i'm going to give you three seconds

Speaker 2 america that's that's the band america yeah and that's

Speaker 1 nothing to i never understood that as a kid have you ever realized some words as a kid you don't understand because you don't know what it means

Speaker 1 like they say like a phrase or something you've never heard and now you get older you go oh now I get what that meant.

Speaker 2 Right, because you remember the movie,

Speaker 2 you had nothing.

Speaker 1 I didn't know he was saying Oz. That was such a clever little thing to say.

Speaker 2 Yeah, instead of the wizard of Oz.

Speaker 1 Oz never did give nothing to the tin man.

Speaker 2 Like the tin man didn't have a heart, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, but they said, but he didn't already have that.

Speaker 2 He already had it. The whole thing,

Speaker 2 the whole thing of the movie.

Speaker 1 I didn't get it. The whole movie.
Anyway, so you were too.

Speaker 1 We'll quickly show the machete story just to show it's true, and then we'll move on. This was it.
Ninja swords.

Speaker 2 I eat machetes.

Speaker 1 Even worse. Ninjas are demanded.

Speaker 2 Jeez.

Speaker 1 God damn. Okay, enough of that one.
What's the next one? Give us anything. We will do anything.

Speaker 2 I read an article. I don't have a picture of it, but I thought it was interesting.
Lie. The divorce rate of people in their 40s and 50s has quadrupled.
Oh, okay.

Speaker 2 Oh.

Speaker 1 Okay, well, this is, we'll go back to divorce rate, but

Speaker 1 Trump officials texted attack plans to a group chat. Oh, everyone's heard of this story

Speaker 1 from a secure app. They don't want to say signal, but I'm on signal for a fantasy football chat.
Uh, but it's supposed to be airtight, and uh,

Speaker 2 this is a mess. This is something when you hear it, you kind of go, Whoa, whoa, whoa, what? Like,

Speaker 2 how in the fire

Speaker 2 does that happen? And can you imagine the person that had to deliver the news news to Trump?

Speaker 1 What are you saying? I don't understand. What are you saying? What do you say?

Speaker 2 What do you say? Say it about the...

Speaker 2 They fucked up. They fucked up good.
They're fucking morons. I'm not going to fire them, but that's a fucking move you'd never fucking make.
I mean, you know, right?

Speaker 1 I will say, if somebody screws up, Republican or Democrat, the first thing they say is, you should quit. And they always go, guys, why are we even doing this? You think I'm ever going to quit?

Speaker 1 And there's no one on either side that's ever just going to quit. They have to be literally pushed out with bulldozers.

Speaker 1 So, so they don't do it. But that thing's funny because I thought it'd be funny for you if they said that group chat was left over, that Biden set it up.

Speaker 1 And it would be funny if Biden was still on it and he was getting, he thought it was the lunch orders for the White House every day.

Speaker 2 And he's like, Hama? Oh, do they have fish kebabs?

Speaker 1 And they're like, I'm sorry, sir. What do you, who is this?

Speaker 2 I like some Hamas with my egg salad sandwich. Come on, folks.
Yeah. I'm not kidding.

Speaker 2 Everybody, get your orders in. We're going to do this thing.
Yeah, I'll have a bomb burger. A bomb burger.

Speaker 1 He doesn't understand and he's reading it all at once. And then he accidentally FaceTimes everyone.
They're like, Don't answer.

Speaker 2 It's fine. He thinks it's all his face is like,

Speaker 2 I'll have a snack attack. Excuse me, a sneak attack.
I'll have the attacks on your wife now sandwich.

Speaker 1 I kind of like snack attack, sneak attack.

Speaker 2 Sneak attack is sandwich.

Speaker 1 this the sandwich is the bomb yeah come on

Speaker 1 come on everyone look at my new emoji i found guess what we got the beef

Speaker 2 where's the beef we got the beef or no barbies we got the meat

Speaker 1 chain that that's a little like wendy's where's the beef i hate yeah they copy each other

Speaker 2 copy uh you did what what are you doing okay okay

Speaker 1 oh there's oh this is a story that came out last week right in superfly I didn't know enough data. Now I have even less.
There's a vast underground city below Giza Pyramids, which

Speaker 1 not to be confused with I'm a geezer.

Speaker 1 Egypt's pyramids. Scientists, wild theory claims, experts debunk it.

Speaker 1 I will say it's a riveting story, if it's close to true, that they have these, you can't see, but in those infrared heat-seeking, that photo above.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 It says they're too specific. Now, if you can't see it, you're just going.

Speaker 1 There's a mass down there. There's something down there.
And it goes down about three football fields. That's interesting enough.

Speaker 1 But they're like, oh, and it had sparklers on it and a Christmas tree light. And it's underground.
You can't know all that.

Speaker 2 Right. Well, look, this is a provable thing.
Right now, people said it's real. Someone, it's debunked.
So somebody go in there and dig them up. Let's dig them up.

Speaker 2 Send Biden in there. Go in there and check and see if it was a Patuma Peritacle, the Pharaoh.

Speaker 2 Look,

Speaker 2 Peritactyl? What was it? Tubacu. I can't remember the famous Tin Tuck.

Speaker 1 Just go with Tin Cup.

Speaker 2 King Tuck. Tutin Common? Tutin Common, that guy.
Remember in fourth grade, you'd study the Egyptian. Yeah, we got a lot in common.
By the way, they still don't know how the pyramids got built.

Speaker 2 Fuck, dude,

Speaker 1 it's so dialed in. There's copper and there's things in there that make them like electrical rods for some UFO shit.

Speaker 2 i want i'm all in i want a secret alien city to be there i honestly do i really want a secret alien city under the pyramids i'm scared so we can kind of relax and go we're not alone like does it does it really matter that we're not alone but we may not be i'm a little i i my conclusion is that we aren't alone and i'm a little relaxed about it because they could kill us so fast that at least they're not doing it.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 I had heard Roswell was lightning knocked him out of the sky.

Speaker 2 And then we, and then we, they were like,

Speaker 1 they don't feel so hot, you know, because they crashed.

Speaker 2 They're like, everyone, just be cool.

Speaker 1 Nothing to see here. And there's like, oh, there's a lot to see here, dude.

Speaker 2 I know. That's them talking to the aliens.
They're like, there's a lot of shenanigans with the JFK report coming out. A lot of, let's keep that quiet.
I don't let anyone know that.

Speaker 2 So you don't have to be a, you know, a conspiracy theorist to kind of ask questions. Like, okay.

Speaker 1 I think if any of that shit happened, even 9/11 right now, people would shoot so many holes through that so fast. Like, back then, it was a world all through life.

Speaker 1 This is what's in school, this is what you're taught.

Speaker 1 But when people ask a few questions and it trips them up, you go, Wait, it shouldn't be that hard.

Speaker 2 Like, right, what's this? What's this?

Speaker 1 So, it is fun to follow those stories. Some are true, some aren't, but oh, yeah, Stephen A.

Speaker 2 Smith.

Speaker 2 There is no doubt that LeBron James is the second greatest basketball player of all time. None.

Speaker 1 No doubt. Never in question.

Speaker 1 Well, Stephen A. Smith would take a swing at LeBron.
This is where it goes a little haywire.

Speaker 1 I don't think he should bring this up because when I saw him talking, he's like, obviously LeBron could pound me. Fine.
But LeBron's like a physical specimen.

Speaker 1 He's the best doctors and trainers in the world.

Speaker 2 That's the sense of the word.

Speaker 1 So, yeah. And one's a sports reporter.
So it's like, let's take that out of the equation of who could win it.

Speaker 1 But anytime you get in a beef with someone, there's always in the back of your mind, what if we get in a fight?

Speaker 1 Because it gets

Speaker 2 tempers flare.

Speaker 2 If LeBron put his weight behind it at his size, he could really hurt somebody.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. Stephen A.
Smith's kind of slender. I mean, he's pretty tall, but he's not.
LeBron and he knows, but it's just gotten to playground stuff. LeBron did post an image of him 10 years ago.

Speaker 2 He said he had dislocated shoulders of him boxing. And Stephen A.
Smith said it was,

Speaker 2 it was a bad look. And then he came back today with a 15-minute

Speaker 2 diatribe. Diatribe.
Yeah, defending the whole thing. He wasn't making fun of Bronnie.
I mean, it just sort of, who was it, Albert Brooks that said life

Speaker 2 is like high school with money? You know, guys. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's also like, there's people I don't like out there in showbiz. And it's like high school.
You're not going to get along with everyone. And so it's okay to, did you hear that?

Speaker 2 Not funny. What did the Heather say?

Speaker 1 When I plug in.

Speaker 1 Now when I plug in my phone, can you hear what it says?

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 1 It took a hair too long, that motherfucking.

Speaker 1 Okay, I'm going to give everyone one more shot at it. And Heather, you cannot talk.
Shake the phone up.

Speaker 2 Look, there's Harper. What is that about? Okay, ready? Oh.

Speaker 1 Everybody quiet. On the set, we're rolling.

Speaker 1 Beep, bop, boop. That's a good one.

Speaker 1 Every time you plug it in and people aren't ready for it, they go, what is it?

Speaker 2 That's something you say. That's one of your.

Speaker 1 Something I say. And Heather told me that you can, I think hers says, hey, Heather.
So if you plug it in, it can say something very short. And I was like,

Speaker 1 and I go, oh, no, it sounds too robotic. So I go, oh, maybe it should say something robotic.

Speaker 2 Beep, boop, boop, beep, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop.

Speaker 1 Okay, so Stephen A. Smith started about LeBron and Bronny.

Speaker 2 Well, Stephen A. Smith, I don't know.
I didn't listen to everything.

Speaker 1 Just say confrontation on the court about that.

Speaker 2 And he was just saying that he did not believe that Bronnie James, who, by the way, dropped 39 this week in the G League, was ready for the NBA. So that was,

Speaker 2 you know.

Speaker 1 So, yeah. So LeBron saw him at a game on the court and said, hey,

Speaker 1 to the effect of.

Speaker 2 Don't shit on my son. And so I get the emotionality of it and I get that side.
I think this leads, and we'll talk to our friend Ted Sarandos. One night only, Stephen A.

Speaker 2 Smith and LeBron James sit down and talk it out. Then LeBron James will put on a hundred-pound weighted suit, and they will go three rounds with David Spade as the referee.
I'm the ref.

Speaker 2 And Dana Florfo as the announcer. No, you're both the announcers.

Speaker 1 No, you open.

Speaker 2 I do a cute tan. I do.

Speaker 1 You do a few up front.

Speaker 2 Suit potato, sweet potato.

Speaker 1 Just that part of your act. And then,

Speaker 1 yeah, celebrity boxing should come back.

Speaker 2 I'm just on Team Bronny. I think he's in the toughest position for any young athlete.
I think he's brave to do what he's doing. LeBron's being the dad.

Speaker 2 And I hope in the end of the day, Bronnie becomes a good NBA player and his dad will eventually retire. He can't play to 50 in the NBA, can he?

Speaker 2 You know, let's look at a clip.

Speaker 2 What a hot take I had.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that was a hot take. That was a hot take.

Speaker 1 It was a Luke take.

Speaker 1 All right, next story.

Speaker 1 Sui potaros.

Speaker 2 Suipotaros.

Speaker 1 Oh, I thought this is interesting. Oh, it's it's one of those where you have to listen to it.
Is it too boring?

Speaker 4 The studio wanted a comedian to, you know, that's what you do in big comedy movies. And Jim wanted an actor who would make him listen, who would react, who would get it.
It's a buddy-buddy of me.

Speaker 4 A comedian will just try to top me. And then we're into that.
And that's not what this is. There's a heart to this.
There's these two guys. They're stupid as hell, but there's a heart to them.

Speaker 2 I got the role.

Speaker 4 And I was aware that others wanted someone else, but I knew that Jim, Pete, and Bobby Fairley wanted me. So we all went to Breckenridge, Colorado.

Speaker 1 Interesting showcase story.

Speaker 4 And the first day, first morning, we shot the scooter. Me and Jim driving down the mountain pass.
And I say, I got a P and he's a

Speaker 1 script ahead of time.

Speaker 4 That was the first morning, first day, pulling into Aspen, supposedly, and the snot coming down, getting off the scooter. That was morning.

Speaker 1 Hilarious, he stays on a shot.

Speaker 4 Jim didn't work the rest of the week. We went to the lodge.
We did the chairlift on the pole with the tongue on the pole.

Speaker 2 Didn't work the whole week. Why? Because he was was broken.

Speaker 4 We did sitting there getting

Speaker 4 going into the ski lodge, crashing the skis.

Speaker 1 Funny

Speaker 2 musical comedy.

Speaker 4 Now we do the snowball in the head. Now we get to Thursday and Friday, and Jim hasn't worked yet.
And I may be in dumb and dumber, but I'm not stupid. The audition is still going on.

Speaker 4 I come to find out they're going to assemble these scenes featuring me.

Speaker 2 And we're all somewhere going to look at them over the weekend. Without it.
And somebody

Speaker 4 is on call. Somebody who's a comedian is waiting to hear whether he's going to go do the movie or not.

Speaker 2 Mr.

Speaker 3 Smith.

Speaker 2 But you could feel it. Maybe I'm just going to say, I don't know.

Speaker 4 Maybe I'm being paranoid. I don't know.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 4 I wait Sunday. I get the call.

Speaker 4 See you Monday morning, 6 a.m.

Speaker 2 Huh. Maybe I'm wrong.

Speaker 4 Go into makeup Monday morning.

Speaker 2 Cliffhanger.

Speaker 4 Now we're shooting a scene with me and Jim.

Speaker 4 Jim walks into the makeup trailer, pats me on the shoulder, leans in, and says, just keep doing what you're doing.

Speaker 2 They love you. Kept walking.

Speaker 4 Jim Carrey's a friend of this.

Speaker 1 Okay. To this day.
That's what he said.

Speaker 2 All right. They offered me or they reached out to me to play the sidekick.
For real? Yeah.

Speaker 1 That doesn't seem like a stretch.

Speaker 2 Well, I think... Jeff Daniels was great.
And by the way, all those scenes that they showed were physical comedy. You know, they could would have been great.

Speaker 1 I didn't think of that.

Speaker 2 The tongue throws the snowball because falls down.

Speaker 2 Throws it too hard, I think. But it worked.
It worked great. He played it.
You know, he's a serious actor and he hosted SNL, incredibly down-to-earth guy, lives in Michigan his whole life.

Speaker 2 And he played it.

Speaker 2 He played it funny. It really worked.
And with Jim Carrey as such a supernova, you wouldn't want anybody trying to, you wanted something juxtaposed to him. So it worked.
I mean, it's a classic comedy.

Speaker 2 It's great.

Speaker 1 That's what he's saying the studio wants a comic he's jim wanted him and he's basically jim saying you got a tryout we can't have two jim carries yeah you have to and that's what would have happened and that was his tryout i thought that was interesting that people don't know he had the whole week with no scenes with jim and everyone just watching yeah and going and then they go is he taking funny they're saying can he be funny

Speaker 1 yeah and he did a good job okay yeah he did he was absolutely hilarious in in the movie well dana you were perfectly pleasant today. You were a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 I thought that

Speaker 2 Pete Siegel, he called you Dave, and you called him Pete. I called him Peter and I call you David.
I thought that was kind of interesting.

Speaker 2 But it was nice revisiting that movie and we had fun talking about everything.

Speaker 1 T-Boy keeps... We had a lot of trivia in there, I liked it.

Speaker 2 And I'm feeling more and more positive the more I hear information from other funny people and people in the industry, not to jinx it, but this movie Buzz Boys.

Speaker 2 I just feel like it's the right timing for sort of what's coming out. I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 I'm going to look at it this weekend. I'm going to look at it rough, and then we get to start to needle it.
So

Speaker 1 I'm thinking it might be good. So I'm excited.

Speaker 1 It felt funny and we did it. So let's see.

Speaker 1 This has been a presentation of Odyssey Superfly. It's executive produced by Dana Carvey and David Spade, Jenna Weiss-Berman of Odyssey, Heather Santoro, and Greg Holtzman.

Speaker 2 Hope you liked it.