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Okay, we got Larry David, one of our favorites that we've been trying to get for a little while,
but of course we know he doesn't like to do anything.
But he made it. He came to the house.
Actually insisted on him personally. He drove in.
We were very flattered. He's one of the guests we wanted to always get.
Possibly the most influential comedian or best comedian of the last many years. But yeah, he had a great sense of humor.
I do go off on a few bits. I apologize for that.
Yeah, I think the crowd will be just as happy as he was. He was laughing so hard.
He's a great crowd. We touch on a lot of topics.
Seinfeld, Curb, all the usual things. The usual suspects and some other stuff.
We sort of jumped around, talked about the 50th, talked about the 40th. And now...
And talked about the 30th.
And we talked about,
oh, I did curve
and I walked you through the process.
And overall,
I think we ended on a real high note.
He was laughing pretty hard.
So that was a real victory.
Enjoy.
Enjoy the episode.
Yeah, you'll see what happens.
Always say no.
Always say no.
It's the best advice
Thank you. what happens always say no always say no it's the best the best advice you could give anyone never i was just talking to somebody the other day they go um why did i say yes to this why did i say yes everybody goes through that every day yeah people cannot People cannot say no.
It's so impossible.
Well, if you're turning down a lot, it's a rhythm thing.
No, no, no.
But at least you're known as someone that says no. How many podcasts do you turn down in a year?
300.
I don't want to.
Over a thousand?
Over a thousand.
I don't want to sound immodest.
Two thousand?
There is. Listen, Nancy Reagan had it right.
Just say no. And no one listened.
Yeah, completely. She was right on a lot of it.
She was talking about drugs. Well.
Can I hear my Reagan? He got his Reagan in. By the way.
Early. I'll sit here for an hour and just listen to your impressions.
Well, I like this rhythm. I'll see if you like this rhythm.
It's Reagan dealing with modern enemies, right? Who are they? What? Tallahou? Banny what? What'd they do? To who? Where? When? How? Why? Well, then we have no choice. Fire away with everything we got and then call them and see if they're still there.
That was it. I made Larry David laugh.
I've got one for you that if you can do, I would just, I would ask you to do it every time I saw you. Okay.
A younger Biden, not the old Biden, a younger Biden with that Baltimore accent. I don't have one of those.
That Baltimore accent. I know.
I know. Well, that's very specific.
You know that accent I'm talking about? They did it in that series. What was it called with Kate Winslet? Oh.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's something.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. And they had that.
No, I know. It's very subtle.
They all had that accent. He's got some of that.
Right. This never doesn't get a laugh in stand-up.
And I'll do it over and over again to the audience. No, I'm being serious.
And I say to the audience, I will keep doing it until you don't laugh. I'm getting around here.
I'm being serious. See, you're so lucky that you can do that stuff.
I don't have jokes. Well, I mean, if something you do isn't working, then you just make them laugh again.
You always have a laugh at your disposal. Most stand-ups don't have that laugh at their disposal all the time.
It's terrifying to go up. And if you don't have a go-to something.
Right. Dana's got great stuff.
And also, you can put a 10% joke in an impression and it's worth 100%. And just ride the rhythm.
I put on my notes, stay, stay here. Don't be in a hurry.
Stay here. If it says Ross Perot, you're going to do him for tomorrow.
Or Anthony Fauci. Every president since Calvin Coolidge, he does.
And the crowd's like, ah! Yeah, they freak out. But a young Biden, that's a challenge.
You do FDR? We ought. No, I'm doing JFK.
We don't do it because. My bit on JFK now is that he needs an AI, Bobby needs an AI, that his voice will then go to JFK's voice.
Oh, Bobby's? Yeah, because we all sound like Bobby. It would help.
If we smoked pot in high school, it'd be like, I can't believe what the pharmaceutical companies are doing. You know, introducing JFK AI.
We understand that the pharmaceutical companies are doing, I'm just going to do this all afternoon. Oh, come on.
I'm, you know, I'm thoroughly entertained. I would pay to sit here.
I would pay to listen to this. Go ahead.
See if you can say, we don't do it because it's easy. We do it because it's hard.
We're the right age group yeah crickets up here um yes so so you're settled in you said yes you're here do you need anything i'll open some water here yeah we got you some of the high uh fancy water from your rider has any human those people
they want like
grape has any human performer those people who they want like grape jelly or something yeah have you ever seen your writer i don't know if you do a lot of stand-up have you ever seen your writer what are you demanding me neither i feel like yours is a little below j-lo but above chris Chris Kattan. Let's see.
I've had people in tears coming at me. I'm coming backstage for the gig.
We only have three towels. Yeah.
We couldn't find Triscuits. I didn't see my writer.
I don't, you know. I don't like to eat anything at all before I'm going on somewhere.
Not even a little bit of chocolate? No, nothing you still do stand-up do you go out and do like an hour no uh last year i did um you know i was interviewed uh on stage on stage yeah one of like these bullshit things yeah yeah something like this yeah yeah that was the best though because it's not really yeah it's not stand up. It's not that hard.
Yeah. Yeah.
Something like this. Yeah.
That was the best though,
because it's not really.
Yeah.
It's not stand up.
It's not that hard.
Right.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
I heard before the pandemic,
Julie Louise Stryfus,
remember her,
you know her.
She,
she was doing interviews.
Check out the call sheet.
You'll remember.
She was doing interviews for corporate events.
I thought,
oh man,
that's so nice.
20 minutes with the CEO.
Yeah. She rakes it in.
What's the question that makes you the happiest and what's the question that is annoying for you? I think I have an idea. I think now the most annoying question is, are you going to do another season? Ugh.
Yeah. Oh, well, now that we're here.
Did you just say yes at the end, meaning you're not, are you? I didn't know that your special was named Curb you're in 30s is that true your stand up special I saw it you took that in and was it 2000 has it been around that long yeah god dang and you've had people on Curb that went on to be bigger stars you actually got them early early. Yeah? Who? I'm asking you.
Me? Well, that's exciting. No, I do have a Curb story for you.
Yeah? You might have heard it because you were part of it, but Dana, I did this young man's show. It was one of the great fun things of life is to be on a show that's a fucking hit show.
Everyone loves. Right up everyone's sensibility everyone in the future goes oh i want to do a show like curb that's the most common thing i hear it's 10 times more complicated than they can probably think it seems very easy looks easy uh i think the fun part when i did it was the idea was you i don't remember this you did so many but you wanted tickets to Laker game and you used to work at NBC.
So you asked the president of NBC and they have two sets. This is, I think, true anyway.
So they say, yes, give Larry two tickets. So you go with Jeff and you're in the rafters and then you get the binoculars to see, oh, they have two sets of tickets.
And then you go, who's on the floor where we wanted wanted to be and he's sitting with me right and so you're like that motherfucker why is spade down there and why are we up here i fucking i was on science so anyway we run into you guys leaving and and the part that i thought was interesting i didn't tell dana this but uh uh it's like the way i got the way i remember it was someone comes up to me and you you're, I think we have the forum or wherever it is. And I think that's how big of a production is.
You have that, you have extras. We did some at a real game.
I think we use those Endeavor seats or whatever, William Morris. And then, so we were at the real game and then afterwards we get a bunch of extras to stay.
And so we were leaving. So me and that president of NBC are leaving and Larry's coming out with Jeff and they come up to me and they go, you're going to run into him.
So be apologetic. Something like that.
It was just an idea. No lines.
And then I go, and what's Larry doing? They go, you'll find out. So then you guys decide what you want to do.
Obviously you decide. And so we come in and we have like a five minute talk where i'm like i'm sorry because you're like why would he be there i'm like i don't i don't want to be a part of this whatever whatever then they go cut and then they come back and i go this one defend yourself and it's so funny because you have five seconds so i'm like well whatever happens and i don't know what you're gonna do and then you're like why would he be there i'm like well we both were on big shows and you're like well I was on Seinfeld I go well listen we're both top 10 shows we're both it's kind of a push and you're like a push well just shoot me was the same as so anyway it just makes for a fun real fake argument whatever whatever and then they did like one or two more of different things was a blast David it's um it's very interesting honestly for people to know that because the hard part for larry is to go in there and uh decide which is the funniest version what line that that's just so complicated the greatest part i love is when i i can tell that you or the great richard lewis or jeff garland you're not sure you're doing a take because you're just talking and you might use it, you might not.
I mean, it's the absolute opposite of a traditional,
you know, Larry Sanders was the first that I had an experience like that.
First of all, I never would have done a show if I had to memorize lines.
Smart.
It's too hard.
I don't like it, and I'm not really an actor.
Guilty. You have to be an actor to memorize lines.
I suppose I could do it, but it wouldn't be fun.
Here, I'm kind of making it up as we're going along.
And I don't know.
It's just, I just laughed my way through 12 seasons.
I know.
It's infectious to watch.
You know, the last 20 years, I don't think I've ever gone to any kind of meeting about
And he... I just laughed my way through 12 seasons.
I know. It's infectious to watch.
You know, the last 20 years, I don't think I've ever gone to any kind of meeting about any kind of show where, you know, it's going to be like Curb or we're thinking like a Curb. Has anyone even landed close to the sensibility? And what is the secret? You don't have to tell us here.
You can cut this part out. If there is like one secret.
Tell us who's done it poorly who's who's doing it i don't even know who's doing it the only thing i think of is larry sanders in the 90s had a sense of three cameras going at all times 16 millimeters and gary would say you do this kind of or say something like this you know oh they improvise a lot at least when i was there yeah but but i don't think it was quite like yours, where you're so improvised. Whatever you have, it's working.
Don't even. Hey, are you going to do another season? No, no.
Is there anybody you asked to do Curb that didn't do it? Like some star that you wanted? I think there were some people who just weren't down with the idea of improvising. Yeah are we like to do the lines they're they'd be more comfortable yeah more comfortable it's hard to make lines your own that's hard when you're doing shows and movies that's why they sometimes feel stiff because if you can just play off what's happening at that second and the attitude that's way more fun it is hard to do though i mean the worst thing that actors did on the show is if they would try to be funny.
Yeah. Are they coming going, I'm funny.
Trying to come up with like funny lines. Not, no.
Yeah. The hardest part I've seen even on a, like for Adam and Sandler and those movies is a lot of people that come on that have never worked with them.
First of all, proclaim their funniness, which is always red flag. And then they come up and say, I add some ideas for the scene and it's for you to be the creator and they and you can't blame anyone else and you have to say no so when they come to you go larry i thought i'd play it more i got a guy that talks like this and you gotta go oh fuck can you just don't do that it's a hard position to be in no it's very easy okay i was trying to help you a little bit it's not hard at all no that's that's not good Don't very easy.
Okay. I was trying to help you a little bit.
It's not hard at all.
No, that's not good.
Don't do that.
I've got two.
I wouldn't, yeah.
And they would slink away and go, fuck that.
Sometimes at auditions, actors would try and cry.
I go, oh, God, no, stop, no, no.
Oh, man, no, no. Oh man, the two metrics now, never have a line that's written that someone has to say, and don't anybody ever be caught trying to be funny, unless the character is trying to be funny.
Yeah, exactly. That's different, but none of that winking, it's a real Rubicon, and you can really feel it in sitcoms when it just pushed i like you did good i'm just saying i'm a fan the stuff that's played like in a wide shot is always good sometimes you get on a movie and they go weird dame and i talk about this is get you get too locked into two shot one shot push in push in and you're losing all the momentum and all the fun of it and it looks too stiff back forth but sometimes it's nice those old woody allen or whatever even tarantino and a wide shot just two people talking looks real you've got to figure out where to look instead of going look here look there we got it we got we we've seen it the woody allen thing is a little scary because i did i did oh you did it what was the name of that movie it's called a couple dana yeah Dana.
Yeah. Whatever.
Yeah. Anyway, I did one.
Once upon. He doesn't remember.
And, you know, because he does these take, you got to get it all in one. And the whole take, I'm going, I got four more lines to go.
I'm not comfortable at all because you can't make a mistake. There's no cutting.
Yeah. Um, after my first take, the first day of filming, after the first take, he comes up to me and he goes, not terrible.
And now I use that every time somebody asked me, yeah, how you doing? I go, not terrible. Yeah.
That's good. Medium place to be.
Robert Mitchum told me that the guy who played Tarzan,
because Robert
Mitchum was a guest host, he was the host
at SNL. I go, hey, how you doing today?
He goes, worse.
I go, worse? Why do you
say worse? I think it was Lex
Barr, some guy who played Tarzan,
he came out of his trailer and said, I feel great
and then did a header, you know. So, ever since then, he just says, worse.
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Terms and conditions do apply. Oh, you did Tough Guys? Is that the one? I did so much shit.
I was so bad. I have a Hall of Fame.
So bad. I can't say lines 175 times.
Between all the takes and all the close-ups, and by four in the afternoon, you first said the lines at 7 a.m., and by five o'clock, it's not even English. Going in tight on Dana.
You guys got some heads of hair on you, the two of you, you know? Best hair money combined. When did you know, did you ever think like, oh, I'm going to have all of my hair for the rest of my life? Did that thought occur to you at some point? Yes.
I had a pretty good head of hair. First of all, it went way up in these corners that are covered right now when I was in my 20s.
So I went to a barber
and he goes, you're going to be gone by 30. What? Really? Yeah.
Barber. He saw it going back.
But it went back and then it stopped. Wow.
Very rare. And then I do take a little finasteride.
What's that? I'm sorry? It's stuff that keeps your hair.
Formaldehyde? What does that do? Keeps your hair in your head.
Really? Yeah. Matthew McConaughey does it.
All right, all right, all right, all right.
Dude, I grew up with motor oil.
Everything I could find, I threw in my hair just trying every trick in the book.
It's so horrible.
Well, let me just explain that because we'll get letters, old-fashioned parlance.
Go ahead.
Dosage matters with any med you take.
I had this woman.
She was trying to do super vegan, and she was amazing. She was 87.
I go, you can have some salmon. Oh, no, I can't.
Well, I tried a statin and I had terrible side effects. Would you ever think of taking a lower dose? Ask your doctor.
So she lowered the dose, took her cholesterol, no side effects. So the same thing with finasteride.
People were popping it like candy. Then they had sexual side effects, depression.
You just need a little bit to keep the hair in your head. And it will grow hair.
I don't get it. You had to give her that advice? The doctor couldn't tell her that? She couldn't read the back of the bottle.
Doctors are not really, most of them are just high school seniors that have a lab coat on. They don't know anything, most of them.
They're terrible. I mean, right? I mean, do you-
What, doctors?
Yeah.
I still have great faith in them.
Yeah, Dana.
Interesting.
Yeah.
I look at you to hold it.
They're doctors, Dana. Doctors.
I know. I used to bow down.
We were talking about to a contractor or a landscape architect.
We'll put a big tree right in the middle of the grass. Why? Well, you need it.
No, you don't. Well, you know, you can never have a doctor as a friend because you'll lose all confidence.
You see, they're so human. How could you? Right.
You don't, you're kind of stupid actually in life. Well, you can read the same stuff they're reading.
You can read NIH. You can read Harvard, whatever.
You can read everything the doctors read. You can? Why? Are you reading that? I do, I do.
You do? A lot. If i have an issue of something yeah i'll look it up i have sane don't you ever research stuff i don't want to read anything medical it'll just scare me i never i never look at anything medical when you do you get this when you go to the doctor they talk about everything jokey except for what's wrong with you like they come in how's going what's been going on even on the road i'm like i've been sitting here for 49 minutes waiting and i know i've got a six minute window with you like let's get to the stuff and then uh maybe in the last second all right bend over and stick a finger in your ass okay so i almost forgot that part did you ever do a prostate exam joke no yes i didn't think you't think you would.
Oh, I thought you were talking to me.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I for sure did.
The cheesiest one that always gets, I don't do, I've never done one.
I've never written one.
But the one that made me laugh the most was, look, ma, no hands.
Yeah.
I mean, that's a stock joke.
It wasn't mine.
No, the joke that you try to bury into real life is when I was playing the Mirage, I go, David Copperfield was in the steam room. I milked out so long and they go, he was in the steam room? And I go, yeah.
And he's sitting next to me, but his towel slid off. He was just sitting there weird.
And he goes, hey, I go, can you do magic now that you have nothing here? And he goes, yeah. And I go, it's not real.
And he goes, all right, quickly. He goes, get up.
He gets behind me. and he goes yeah and i go it's not real and he goes all right quickly he goes uh get up he gets behind me and he goes all right do you feel my thumb in your ass and i go yeah and he goes ta-da reaches around me so it was sort of magic that's funny did you ever um do a hitler joke you do a lot of Hitler jokes.
I'm not talking about the editorial, but just because everyone has a Hitler joke. What's your best Hitler joke? I used to do one in stand-up.
It had to do with about Hitler going to a magic show. That's already funny.
Anything Hitler does. does and he goes backstage after and he's very insistent on on finding out where the rabbit is and you know magicians have magicians have a code they they don't they can't tell how the tricks are done right and it was going where's the rabbit i'm very curious And he goes, well, Mein Fuhrer, you know, we're not really allowed to.
There's a code amongst me. Yes, yes, yes, but where is the rabbit? It was something like that.
I forgot the rest of it. Where was it? Did you do that in the 99 special? I did, yes.
I remembered it. Do you have a Hitler joke? You uh you know right one i don't think i have one because oh you know i did have a book when i did my first book oh a couple people remember thank you um is it was i used a picture of me when i was five years old my mom had me a little blue suit with white hair down to here and it was a weird shot down on me in front of my old apartments
and i'm just standing so stiffly that i said what if we called the book mr hitler will see you now because i was like a five-year-old kid looked like a little uh arian and um it got universally no so uh and i'm kind of glad because i sort of skim over stuff i'm from ari. We were never into religion.
We were never into many things that could be very offensive. And so we joked about everything, racism, all this.
So sometimes I would stumble in my act and say things too far and someone would pull me aside and say, I wouldn't say that anymore. And I wouldn't know how deep these things went or hit.
And I'd be like, okay. So it took me a while.
Even on that one, it was a little late in the game but uh to even say i should do that but hitler gets thrown around and it just it offends too many people i'm not doing i did a hitler bit i was doing a benefit for cedars-inai cardiology department and i did a hitler bit a guy had actually put a stent in my chest go do you know where you are you know and i do you want to hear it yeah's not a bit, it's an observation because I thought, I don't have any original observation about Hitler. And then I thought of one and I want you to tell me you've never heard it before.
Hopefully. Or you've heard it before.
All we do is see Hitler throughout history screaming. I don't know son of a We never see him talking normal.
We do this for a living. He must be exhausted backstage.
Just wiped out, almost effeminate. Oh, Himmler.
I can't feel my deltoid. Whoever said to do this, shoot him.
He gets off stage and goes to the heads of the green room and he's like, they were good. They were pretty good.
He's back to his normal voice. But just exhausted Hitler Langeris, girding my little roof off a mat.
Yeah, that's great.
Don't fat shame yourself.
I have a cookie.
I eat it.
I put the plate down.
You have a good cookie.
Your brain throws apart.
You have a hundred cookies.
So he breaks down, you know, addiction to carbohydrates.
That's funny.
Okay.
Hitler's green room.
What's on his rider?
All right.
I look at my notes.
There's literally no notes to ask anything.
It's two.
Go ahead, Dana. Whatever you got.
Well, I know this will make you happy um jalen bronson bronson yeah new york knicks yes yes right in the throes steven a smith and lebron who would win if they went because we we think we know but steven a smith isn't tiny i mean i would get snapped snapped in half by LeBron. Stephen A.
Smith would get snapped in half. LeBron is a beast, man.
It's unbelievable. What is he doing? I don't know.
He's 40 years old. It's just incredible what he's doing.
Yeah. If I had that money, I think, and he's already like such a perfect specimen athlete.
I don't know what I would do. I don't know what I would obviously pour it back into trying to stay alive top of the hundred.
I look at Brad Pitt and I go,
I don't know what's going on,
but if something,
no one's going to get to regular Brad Pitt.
He looks even better now.
I'm like,
fuck that.
That's like cheating because he could have been fine skating along.
And if he did the,
I don't say he did because mostly just jealousy and anger.
But,
uh, if he did something, I'm flying to that guy and just saying, do whatever you got to do. Because someone told me on my comments, it looks like I slept on my face.
And those sting, Larry. You're supposed to let them go.
Well, you look kind of the same. Yeah, you look like 45 years.
Because when did your hair, but when did it go white how old it probably started in my um probably in my late 30s wow that was a joke no but steve martin the same thing you look he looks kind of the same was like 12 i'm working on this baby face with bangs i'm gonna be 70 a month
keep the hair messy really you're gonna be 70 in a month yes thank you larry wow for being surprised isn't that a great compliment when people are surprised when you tell them your age yes yeah it is but when you tell them eventually you say i'm gonna be 70 a month ago oh you're like really i just don't know yeah
can i get a really Andy Sandberg said you're gonna be 70 I go thank you yeah it's a great compliment okay I have something you may not have heard before tell me if you have Carol Leifer was on our show okay and she's talked about you and Jerry the dynamic and. And she said, you're John Lennon
and Jerry is Paul McCartney.
Have you heard that before?
You probably have heard it.
I've heard it.
It's quite ridiculous, but I've heard it, yeah.
But then it makes you unpack it a little bit in your brain.
Like, well, wait a minute.
How am I Strawberry Fields and he's Penny Lane?
Yeah, I would rather be out of those two.
Both geniuses.
Yeah.
Not bad.
Yeah, I don't, i don't i don't i think i have a feeling our dynamic was um maybe not fraught with the friction that theirs was so well i asked paul mccartney about it and he said well the difference was you know they were doing were doing comedy. And we were doing strumming and singing.
So it's a different thing. The analogy doesn't quite fit.
Larry David looks the same for the last 40 years. I go, I totally agree, Paul.
Were you on CBS Radford a lot? Yeah. That's right.
I think we were there the same time, honestly. I think Just Shoot Me, Will and Grace.
We were there up until 98.
What was the call sheet?
What was the order of the cast?
I have no idea.
Larry.
Never looked at it.
Tell me.
You mean the Seinfeld call sheet?
Jerry.
Honest to God.
One.
I never looked at it once.
What do you think it was, Dana?
I assume it'd have to be Jerry. And then we'll keep going.
I mean, it's a good question. What's those four in a row? I never looked at it.
Julie Louise Stryfus, number two. She's probably a bigger name, right? Well, Julie wasn't in the pilot.
Jason was in the pilot. Oh, he might've inched ahead and leaned at the tape and got to number two.
I was not an early adopter. I was being wined and dined by NBC to do the Letterman slot, Warren Littlefield, and having lunch with him.
You mean a talk show host? Yeah. You were gonna be a host on television.
Yeah, I know. It seems amazing.
He'd be great. It wouldn't work at all.
This is my first. No, maybe if you had David as the co-host, it might've worked.
We would have been playing Andy Richter. No, but basically they said, you know, we have this new show.
I think only four had been made or something. It's called Seinfeld.
We think it might be, it's going to be really big. And they told me about it and who was in it.
And I just thought to myself, oh boy, that's not going to happen.
That doesn't sound like a winner. Yeah.
I agree with that. Well,
whatever I'm involved in, I never thought would work. So no, I thought it would be gone very
quickly. I was just doing it for the pilot.
I would do a pilot, get paid for the pilot. Right.
And then that would be it. Yeah, the chances of pilots going are so slim, especially.
And you're coming off SNL then? Was that SNL to that? SNL was 84, 85. How'd that go? Oh, swimmingly.
Well, you made up for it. It just shows that you just don't know you need the right situation or whatever.
Because for you not to do great on that show and then you go off and do. Some people do that.
They have trouble there and they go off and do great. I didn't really.
It didn't really bother me that much. I got one sketch on for the season.
I got one sketch on. It reminded me a bit of a stand-up in a way when I'd be waiting to go on, and then, I don't know, somebody famous would come in, and I'd get bumped and bumped again.
And I was actually glad I got bumped because I didn't want to go on anyway. I was happy.
I was happy not to go on. And so I don't know.
Writers made such a big deal about if their sketch was going to be, I didn't really care that much. Yeah.
It didn't, it didn't really bother me. Well, when I was there writing, all I cared about was getting picked up again for the next year.
Cause there's just no money. So I just don't want to look like an asshole.
And they'd call Gervitz and Brad Gray and go, Lauren would go, I don't know. We may bring them back.
So I'd have to get rid of my apartment. And every, every year I did that.
And then I drag, there wasn't DoorDash ladies. It was drag your part, you know, you know your mattress down the stairs and then you gotta re-put your part my apartment was like a bed a desk anything i could just literally carry and then two months later we'll bring them back and then i'm like so i gotta go move back find an apartment it's so dumb but they like to keep you on the edge of your seat there so you didn't have lauren lauren was not oh you didn't have lauren no i didn't have lauren oh i was just doing a impression it was a 10 out of 10 unfortunately you didn't know no no he's hosted twice i knew you were doing lauren yeah it was a very subtle you know dick dick ebersole it was too real it's kind of a sporting event someone said about snl it's rock and roll it's loud i mean there are there are subtle jack Candy used to do is deep thoughts in our subtle sketches.
It's rock and roll. It's loud.
I mean, there are subtle. Jack Handy used to do
his deep thoughts
and there are subtle sketches.
It's funny.
But I think I heard
that you and Jerry
just said for sure
at this point,
we're just going to do
the show for ourselves.
We're not going to try
to project what the network
or even the audience
will like.
That's what I felt
that Seinfeld,
you know,
why it did it.
Yeah, that's what we did.
Yeah.
So.
Yeah.
But you were just-
I remember we went out
to dinner very early on
Thank you. you know why yeah that's why yeah that's what we did yeah so yeah but you were i remember we went out to dinner very early on and i and i i said i i just can't letting how are they letting us do this i was shocked were the audiences biting on it though it was in front of an audience yeah they were biting so you were biting.
So you thought, well, something's working here. Seemed like it.
Because when we were doing ours, I like to keep comparing like the exact same. When we were doing ours or any sitcom, they would do it.
And then it would get a medium laugh. And then we liked it all week.
The people that we thought were funny to each other. And then they go, listen, the youth prisoners that they bust in in for the show uh aren't biting on this one so let's dumb it down a little bit and then i go well let's not wind up with the one that these guys like because we believed in these jokes and then they're scrambling and trying stuff i'm like then i don't even know what winds up on the show but you go you can't do that like it's better to have something where you just pick it and say, this is our style.
This is our vibe. Like it was, it was new.
And we've gone through cheers, Mary Tyler Moore, mash, all these brilliant sitcoms, half hour shows. And all of a sudden there's a show with a puffy jacket or a soup Nazi.
It just was instantly a different sensibility when I saw it. And, uh, I saw at least 13 of them.
I don't know how many I've seen, but. We didn't even know how to write a sitcom.
We'd never done it before. You didn't have bad habits.
You didn't know how to do a bad one. And there was no writer's room.
Oh, really? Yeah.
We didn't have a writer's room.
Who wrote?
Well,
we knew some SNL people that wrote on there,
but was it,
I heard the idea was people would walk into a cold,
like freezer room.
And then it was you sitting there in a chair in the dark and they would pitch.
I was always very nice.
If you didn't like it,
you would hear shame. And they'd walk out, but walk out but they said they make it more than it is because they go we'd have to wait and then we'd go in and pitch and then Larry would just shake us and they you have a big laugh and so they loved it if they could make it if they could make Larry laugh in the pitch I was always very nice to everyone who came in I could imagine you.
You're a good crowd right now. You're just, you're very open.
When I see you out in the world, I don't see that much, but you always seem very loose and friendly. And there's no people.
I think people think of this curmudgeon thing. That's like a little, because it's in the show.
Well, that's the character. No, that's me.
This is the act. Do more people talk to you? What do they talk to you about in order? Is it Seinfeld or is it Curb or is it something else? Now? Yeah.
Well, now it's Curb. It's just Curb all the time.
It's Curb, Curb, Curb, Seinfeld. Curb, Curb, Seinfeld.
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Not like you, kind of, you know, no offense. And one of my best trips, listen up,
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It felt like I was living like a local with all the space.
You know, hotels can be a hassle room service.
And then the housekeeper, it's a hassle.
So then you go to Airbnb and you can get whatever you want,
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It's fantastic.
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I mean, look, I'm on the road a lot.
I could probably do it.
It's something that people can do when they travel.
They have extra space or you're at a place not full time.
You come in the winter, you leave in the summer.
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It's a way to get some extra money.
And it's a cool experience.
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Find out how much at airbnb.com slash host. Was Jerry ever, like, Jerry being sort of a stoic, you know? He doesn't like people being neurotic and creating problems because I've gotten to know him a little bit.
I did comedians in cars and stuff. And so then I realized when he is abrupt about that, he's really slightly annoyed that someone would create a problem out of nothing.
So he would just, I'd say, I don't know about my act. How do you write new jokes? Just write them.
You know, he's like, you know. And at first I was like, is this guy aggressive? No, this is away.
He doesn't like neurotic comedians going, I don't want to play that club. Don't play it.
I mean, does he like that with you? I mean, once I understood where he was coming from, we had him in here and it was, I totally got it. He does not like problems that don't need to exist.
And he just, no. Yeah.
I like, I like this stance when I said it, he doesn't do that many specials. And I said, all the comics now, they do a special for an hour and then they have to throw away the material.
And he goes, why do they have to throw it away? I go, I don't want to throw it. I go, I have stuff that takes so long to sharpen and get it to fucking work.
And when I go on the road, they want to see a show that works. I don't want to start from scratch.
And he goes, listen. He talks to me like I'm a child.
He goes, listen, don't throw it away. He goes, do the jokes that work.
He goes, people think they have too many jokes that work. He said, when you boil it down, every great comic probably has an hour 15 in their whole career.
That's just killers. think leno's like that too they just boil down to like get what works and do it and if some of them are great jokes it's like songs i like that i like when someone does something i like especially comic i go this is my favorite one i'm glad they're doing it i don't want to see because specials get watered down over time and i'm like ah another one what the fuck what do you got left in the tank? There's two jokes of Jerry that still stick with me.
One was the moose gets lifted out of Alaska. And it's up in the sky.
And it wakes up. What does the moose think? I guess I can fly now.
I thought that was a great one. And then the eulogy one.
You know the eulogy one. What's that one? The normal and fair of human beings is public speaking.
So at any funeral, the person giving the eulogy would rather be in the casket.
It's a great joke.
That's good.
Yeah.
So you had a great partner and he had a great partner.
We had a great time.
Yeah.
But you'll be remembered for Curb.
My point is this.
No, I don't.
Curb's 20. Do an impression.
Do an impression. You did Bernie Sanders.
Yeah. Okay.
What's your memory? I just did Biden. I was like, I don't know.
So there was a debate in 2000. The election was 2016.
And Bernie was running. Hillary was running was running yeah so there was a debate and then i think it was probably i think the debate was 2015 yeah and i'd never and so i'm when bernie sanders started to talk everything he was saying, I would repeat.
I don't know if you ever do that. Sometimes.
All of a sudden, because he sounded so familiar to me because we're both from Brooklyn. Right.
That I was able, in a way, to just tap into the way he talked. Yeah.
And he would say something and I would repeat it. And then my agent called me when the debate was over just to talk about it.
Ari Emanuel, he said, did you see that? I said, of course I saw it. What do you think? And he goes, okay, I'm calling Lorne Michaels.
Perfect. Five minutes later, Lorne is on the phone with Ari.
And that was on a Tuesday. And on Saturday, I'm doing the show.
Oh, fun. So you had the 84 experience.
Then all of a sudden, 2015, you come on, you do Bernie. And it is a smash.
I mean, it's like, oh my God, of course, Larry David. And you killed.
It must have been fun. It was fun.
Yeah.
Because everything you said, you got to laugh.
Yeah, it was fun.
Yeah.
Did you go to the 50th?
You went to the 40th.
You did a lot in the 40th, I thought.
I did.
Yeah, I went to the 40th and I was in the audience and I did some bit in the audience.
Yeah, yeah.
And the 50th, I went, but I didn't do anything.
Yeah.
But I got sick at both of them. Okay, good.
Even the COVID in 2015? In 2015, I got sick at the 40th. Yeah.
And I was doing a play at the time. And I had to do the play with like 102 temperature, you know? Ouch.
Because you got to go on. It's so gross to be like, I got to go on.
It's horrible. And then I got sick again at the 50th.
Got the flu, I think. You know, something must be there.
When I hosted last time, I got sick during dress. The worst fucking anxiety riddle time.
In the middle of a sketch, they go, come on, come on. And I I stood up I was in like a UPS outfit and I go
and then I sat back down
on the set
and they go
come on
the band's like
you got 90 seconds
and I go
I don't feel good
and then I laid down
on the floor
and everyone's like
what the fuck is going on
so they walk me
to the dressing room
put me in the bathroom
I lay on the floor
and the audience
is still there
so
it was the last sketch
they just rapped
and they let everyone out
and then they're
pounding on the door
going
Thank you. in the bathroom i lay on the floor and the audience is still there wow so they it was the last sketch they just wrapped and they let him out and then they're pounding on the door going and i hear him going if he doesn't come out we have we're gonna have to put a rerun on we got to tell mbc and i'm laying on the floor sweating i got i don't know if i was food poisoning then i started barfing and then i just sat there my little ups uniform going there could be more stress already you're sick and everyone including lauren is behind the door going are we doing this it's fine if we're not we just have to and so i finally get the door and i go i mean i can try and then they go uh all right let's pull the rerun let's just try it and uh wow i started to feel a little better and i got some food in me and i was like i don't't know what happened.
I got the whammy. And then I did a good solid 70% I gave.
And the guy in the UPS sketch, the writer, I could see him in the back going, yeah, you're a real fucking hero. Because obviously that sketch got cut because I don't think I even finished it.
You know what I mean? The thing about it, when I was doing it and I was sick, and I remember thinking during the middle of it,
I don't feel sick.
Yeah, your adrenaline maybe.
That's remarkable.
I felt like Fraser in the 15th round, last time I hosted.
Like, really?
Now?
Can I do this?
And then the same thing.
Just pass the off dog.
The applause, the laughs.
I mean, were you hosting was good experiences or is it not really?
Yeah, it was okay. It was okay.
What did I... just once you get out there the applause the laughs i mean your hosting was good experiences or is it not really yeah it was okay it was okay what did lauren give you a thumbs up what did lauren say to you well they they invited me to do it again so i i guess i it wasn't a total bomb but i had you know the hardest part was having to prepare a monologue yeah yeah because i hadn't on in a long time.
And I expect the world from you. So I had to write a monologue and then do it in different clubs.
Oh, you had to go out. Yeah, that was.
That's a lot of work. Just do Q&A with the cast.
Yeah, that's the trick. You singing would have been funny.
Yeah. In a club, they go, we have a guest here, Larry David.
And you walk up, so dogs are funny. And everyone's like, what's he doing? And then a half hour before the show at 11 o'clock, I was called up to Lauren's office and the censor was there.
Oh. And the censor said that I couldn't do this.
I couldn't do a bit oh at 11 yeah at 11 o'clock fuck off and there are two bits they didn't want me to do oh come on oh please and then i went on well the other one whatever you know i'm not gonna i'm not gonna i gotta i'm gonna do it you're not gonna do it well you've said you're gonna do i said no i'm gonna oh you said you're gonna do it i said yeah no i can't i said i can't i have to do it we have nothing and i go yeah i go what why is it offensive i don't get it who's gonna be offended by this lorne lorne after five minutes of this said i i can't i can't to him, but he said to the censor, I don't think you're going to win this one. Oh, he said to the censor? He said that to the censor, yeah.
I don't think you're going to win this one. Yeah, that's exactly it.
Let's get Larry to make up. You can only take so much from a Larry David.
We've wasted Larry's time enough. Let him go down.
Check his celebrity net worth, then you'll see that he truly is. You know, when I host a great story about me, we can cut this out.
Oh, we already did? No, when I hosted, Sandler was in my trick monologue. I'm only telling you this because it's kind of similar to where uh he's the audience member but he's playing a goofy guy that he used to do so he was there that weekend he goes i'll come and we'll do that that'll be your monologue so i can worry about the 13 sketches that are about to bomb and so that morning saturday they say adam was i got a water boy open that weekend big and he had to fly back to la and he that i can't do it pal i was like oh shit so i couldn't cover it because it was his character and i'm like what's my monologue and then we're like okay rehearsal and i'm like in going guys i got to get a monologue and one of the breaks and they go and everyone does just do stand-up but i hadn't done it for a while and i definitely hadn't done a club or anything so there's no practice which you need a little even when we were at the 50th i just did a set with chris rock and nate bergazzi just for fun because we're out having dinner and they go oh milaney and steve martin and martin short we're just here doing stand-up they all came in everyone to the set just like everyone bumped super fun night but i don't get to do that so i just go oh i have this one in my act about a polar bear and about this other one and then they go just do that so the only time i rehearsed it was at dress or right before dress you know to try it but i couldn't really remember it all then i had to sit my dressing go how does that one go so scary it went all right but i know the monologue it's it's all how come you didn't get them on cards i got it oh because i had to tell cards what to put and i just said just forget it just put monkey joke polar bear oh okay and and go to a commercial when i started fucking crying i don't like stand-up either i mean honestly if any time a show was canceled i was happy you're happy right but if i go up and i'm killing i go well this is kind of fun but i never want to go and i don't like i'm exactly the same way i never want to be in a de facto comedy competition, go to the comedy store, there's 10 comics.
I'm going to try new stuff.
They're- kind of fun, but I never want to go. I'm exactly the same way.
I never want to be in a de facto comedy competition,
go to the comedy store, there's 10 comics.
I'm going to try new stuff.
They're doing their A stuff, lean into it.
And I just don't like the people.
You were one of the best tonight.
I mean, what do I need that for?
I'm just like you.
Do you do corporates?
Do they call you to come in?
They're fun.
Somebody's got enough money.
No, I don't get asked.
Oh, yeah.
Really?
Thank you. do they call you to come in? No, uh-uh.
They're fun. Somebody's got enough money.
No, I don't get asked. Oh, yeah.
Really? I'm going to talk to my people. Have you ever been in a headlock by another adult male as an adult? Because the CEO was drunk and had me at a corporate event.
Hey, do the church lady fucking guy. It's funny you should ask me that because at the 50th, I was introduced to Paul McCartney.
And I said to him, has anyone ever punched you in the mouth? Instead of hello, we love all your albums. I said, let me ask you a question.
Have you ever been hit in the face with a fist has anybody ever punched you that's fucking great and he must have loved it oh wait we were at dinner what did he say yeah the dinner yeah you were sitting right next to Paul yeah you were hilarious he was a good laugher too yeah he was into it I think he likes having he's a charmer I mean but what did he say after you said he just started laughing no he did there was an incident there was an incident there was an incident in his youth when he was like 13 or 14 and somebody headbutted him, he told me. He's so charming.
There's something on YouTube, you can look it up, but McCartney's going into a nightclub with people. This is like within five years in LA.
The doorman doesn't recognize him. And they're like, no, you can't go.
And then you you hear Paul say we've got to write more songs we better go back to drawing but we're not big enough so anyway I'm going to ask him I was sitting next to Chris Rock and I came late and I felt embarrassed but I was 100% not invited I was Chris I was meeting for dinner and he goes just come here and then I realized I was crashing at dinner at dinner. He was invited to or something, whatever.
So anyway, I went in and Paul was very nice. Whoever threw that thing, just like 10 people.
But the funny part was I was sitting just where I could see kind of between you guys are on the same side as me. So I'm trying to crank my head between Chris and you and see Paul and here you guys.
And Larry's killing. And then every time Paul gets to a story where he says something like I told you, where's like you know yesterday the way I came up with it was one night when I was dreaming the guy was like who had potato skins and then he leaves and I go and then he's putting this shit down and he goes top off your water top off and I'm like I'm trying to and then he goes I go it's a quarter inch we're topped off and he's like I get a little more and then he comes out and I go and he goes and that's how I came up yesterday and I go uh huh and then he goes the last thing john ever said to me hey coconut shrimp hot plate hot plate i'm like god damn dude i'm missing every this thing i couldn't pay enough to hear paul mccartney the dichotomy between how humble and liverputlini is and the genius we sat down here for a plonk you know john and i like looking in the mirror and that's how we came up with abby road you know We just plunked.
You know, it's like, like looking in the mirror. And that's how we came up with Abbey Road, you know.
We just plonked.
You know, it's like, what the fuck?
What about Lennon?
What would he say?
Well, here we go.
John Lennon, yeah.
John would be more nasal, you know.
Paul was always one of those.
Ringo's more like peace and love.
They were me brothers.
They're me brothers, me brothers. They're me brothers, peace and love.
Can you say anything else? No, me brothers made it love. And then Paul's like this, and George is sort of like, and Gary is sort of laid back.
You know, they were the primary songwriters for me. They were my brothers, you know.
So anyway, I'm obsessed with him. Oh, this guy's too much.
I'm just trying to make you laugh because you came, you drove 300 miles. No, that was easy.
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Kim Kardashian one? Oh, that's why I do John Lennon talking to Paul John from heaven because I want to hear them talk, you know. And, you know, what happened to the big orange man, you know.
Well, he's president again, but he was beat by another man, you know, named Joe Biden, you know. And he goes, wasn't he, what about, didn't Kanye West, what happened to him? We went, flew away.
We don't know what happened to him. Wasn't he with a woman named Kim Kardashian? Wow, she's doing.
I'm doing the short version. I like that John knows a couple of little things.
They talk regularly. A couple of pop references.
Well, you know, she's a nice gal. You know, how does she make a living? Well, she takes pictures of her bottom.
What's so special about her bottom? It's not a normal bottom. It's a bottom 2.0.
It's like God made a fanny and attached a person as an afterthought. The whole family has big bottoms.
All of them are doing it. And if they follow their backs,, they're sort of like turtles.
They can't get up again. They have to have turtle wranglers lift them up.
The whole family's doing it. One gentleman got so frustrated, he became a woman.
So that's a truncated version of it. You have a great sense of humor.
Can you come back tomorrow? Well, I love impressions. It's so fun.
Me too. If too if i see someone yeah bill hater was on my show and he was oh he's so oh my god just yeah he did he do one of my bits i think burton kirk or yeah or jimmy stewart he gave you credit he did burton kirk yeah he gave you full credit i I know.
It was flattering how much he loves it because I think he's absolutely brilliant, you know.
But yeah, he loves that Bert and Kirk thing too.
Yeah.
Uh-huh.
I want you.
I want you new.
Now take it easy, son.
We're just two men having fun.
Don't keep bucking around like that.
I only got so much play down there. You keep bucking around like that.
That's so great. I want you.
What are you going to do, cowboy? Come on, I'll take you. I do this for 20 minutes.
I once had John Lovitz throw up in a parking garage because I'll do it for 20 minutes. Because he was laughing so hard? Because it goes on and on and on and on.
Shit. So I keep doing bits? No, we're doing good.
I think maybe we waste enough of his time. I mean, this is my current favorite.
Do you want me to do it? Yeah, do one more. Because it's not, this is Jimmy Stewart, which I think Conan did.
But trying to come up with a new Jimmy Stewart thing is that someone's going to perform oral sex on him and he he does it as Jimmy Stewart case. It's not x-rayed.
Okay. I know this one, too.
Yeah. All right.
No, no, no. Don't touch it.
No, just slow down. Now, I want you to slowly turn your head and look away.
Yeah. Yeah, that's it.
Just look away. Now, I want you to forget about it.
Pretend you never saw it. Now, slowly, but ever slowly, turn your head back around and discover it again.
That's it. That's the look I want.
Just discover it. Just consider it.
Now, slowly. So, that's my latest story.
That's just hilarious. I've never done this many bits on a show.
That's so funny. Discover it and consider it.
Well, I have one where he leaves the house. Now I'm going to go around the corner and get a soda pop.
And I want you to forget all about it. You never saw it.
Then I'm going to come back and I want you to slowly turn and discover it again. Like it's brand new.
Yeah. Yeah.
No, no, don't touch it. Just think about it.
I'll back the head up again. I'm going to back up and go out in the hallway.
So, see, I'll just go for 20 minutes. Oh, my God.
But you're the greatest audience winner.
I love impressions.
That's a good closer.
I do, too.
It should be your closer.
That's a fucking great one.
I'm going to edit these things together and release it as a special.
So funny.
Holy cow.
Anything you need from us, Larry?
All right.
Oh, no, I'm good.
Thank you very much for coming here.
You're just an amazing guest.
I don't know what to say other than.
I did the best I could.
You did great.
We all didn't want to do this and we all did it.
And I think I'm proud of us all.
Did you want to go?
Yes.
That's all I do with Jerry. How many,
how many podcasts are there?
Over three million.
Like over three million now. No, honestly.
No, I think there's 3 million. Does that seem too low? Sounds like a joke.
There's 3 million podcasts in North America. I don't know.
How does everyone do it? We Googled it and that was over 3 million. That was about a year ago.
Most don't get past 30 episodes. So they come in and out, you know, but I don't know how.
Greg, here's our producer. How do they? It seems easy.
It's kind of hard to do. Digital space is unlimited.
We can all just, you know. It feels like the easiest thing in the world.
So if you're an actor or if you're doing anything in showbiz and things are slow, you feel like you want to do something, you know, like, well. Right.
And then it's like when people used to watch the Kardashians, they wanted a reality show. They go, Hey, I argue.
I hate my family too. I yell at them in the kitchen.
I can do this show. So that's what they think.
And then they go to a podcast and it's a little trickier and tougher and a lot fizzle, but, uh, some stick around. It's, it's, it's a little bit to it.
It's a new tech. So it's sort of like, you know, you do the talk show and you do the pre-interview and you have two minutes and they're cutting.
So this is just like us hanging out. So this new art form of like shooting the rehearsal, doing half-baked stuff.
We don't have a script. I had a few questions.
Right. It's good to have a day.
So it is fun. It can be fun just because of the freedom of it.
Yeah. And it's great that you're doing it together yeah i think yeah we we go along really well yeah it's easier and then if someone else whoever we got here one of us knows something about something and but we let them talk sometimes we let you talk a little bit yeah i said i said a couple of things feel free to cut me out of the whole thing we don't need too much for me well i'd say i watch you on conan and i noticed this morning just and i said oh god larry loves to laugh you know you know like you you're like maybe the funniest guy whatever let's just say he's arguably the funniest person in the last this generation arguably last 300 you're in the conversation as the funniest person so to make that guy laugh is just a pleasure you heard the the conan what podcast yeah yeah yeah and you guys are having such a good time and i noticed because i haven't hung out with you a lot i just said larry loves to laugh yeah you know and so that's why i just thought i'd do a few things um you know all right guys anyway when you did when i did curb and this is the last I'll say, you had to cut some stuff out and you called me.
Because it's very tough to call someone telling me you had to cut something.
So he told me.
And the funniest part was I said, okay, well, I had a great time and thanks for putting me on there.
And then you felt guilty and you go, now I feel bad.
And I go, well, I understand it.
And they go, are you being sarcastic?
I go, no.
I know that these shows go long and we ad-lib forever and you've got to take stuff out and you go alright I'll try to put it back in and I go no it's fine and it turned into another episode because it was just funny to hear you feel bad that you had to call me but it's hard to tell someone that and a lot of people say they never even told me I'm like it's hard to tell people it is what it is if it gets cut it gets cut but that was nice. The people the people who would design seinfeld and curb would have all that kind of emotions because it's coming from all this human yeah you're on both sides so that makes sense that you would suddenly feel bad because if you're a sensitive instrument on seinfeld i this guy i knew paid a lot of money to be an extra um for charity and i inadvertently cut him out of the show and he had a party he was going to have people over his house yeah aye aye yeah Brad fucked him alright okay thanks thanks bud this has been a presentation of Odyssey please follow subscribe leave a like a like, a review, all this stuff, smash that
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Fly on the Wall is executive produced by Dana Carvey and David Spade, Jenna Weiss-Berman
of Odyssey, and Heather Santoro.
The show's lead producer is Greg Holtzman.