Dan Soder

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Speaker 3 Dana Dan Soder's on today, and Dan Soder is a young man who has been kicking it in there for a while and

Speaker 3 tight with all the comedy greats. And maybe you've heard of, maybe you haven't, but it's time you have if you haven't.

Speaker 1 HBO special, Comedy Central special. He's part of the Netflix

Speaker 1 stand-up comedian special. He did 30 minutes there and the self-produced special.
And so he's been around and it was fun to...

Speaker 1 hang out with him. His stand-up is great and he has a great ear and he delights us with some of his off-kilter impressions.

Speaker 2 He tells us the story.

Speaker 3 It's kind of funny because, yeah, his YouTube special, he threw it on there about a year ago, has 3 million views. That's like a good trick.
And 3 million is very hard to come by.

Speaker 3 People just throw numbers around, but it's hard to get that much. And a lot of comments about it.
They liked it. And that's a good calling card.
He's going to start doing theaters. And

Speaker 3 he's announcing that. pretty soon.

Speaker 2 So look for that.

Speaker 3 And, you know, he's buddies with Shane. He talks about all these guys, Nate, all the ones we always talk about.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 good dude. So I'm excited.
We had a lot of laughs with him. He does a few impressions.

Speaker 2 He's not really an impressionist, but he's just better at most impressions than an impressionist.

Speaker 1 He's like Eddie Murphy or something. You know, he just does his regular standout is great, but he does this really some cool things.

Speaker 3 Chappelle is Chappelle is pretty probably the best one.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was awesome. So super talented, nice guy.
And a lot of these famous comedians are his good buddies who open for him. So now it's Dan's turn.

Speaker 3 Yeah. So here he is.
Check it out.

Speaker 2 Dan's Soda. Dan Soder.

Speaker 1 Dan, can you, when you sleep, can you have the bedroom door open or unlock?

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 1 Or do you lock yourself in?

Speaker 2 I lock myself in.

Speaker 2 I shut it in.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah. I barricade.

Speaker 1 Have you ever seen, have you ever thought there was an intruder in your house actively?

Speaker 2 One time it, yeah, when I used to live in Queens, I had, like in the first two weeks I lived there, the guy broke in through our, we lived on the first floor on a very busy street.

Speaker 2 A guy broke in through the back by pushing in the window and stole everything. And then my landlord, Anthony,

Speaker 2 put up. put up bars on the inside of our window.
And we were like, why wouldn't you just put it on the outside? He's like, nah, damn, that's not how that works.

Speaker 2 We're going to put them up on the inside.

Speaker 2 so then my roommate just had bars on the inside oh it might hurt property value so he doesn't want to look like a prison yeah yeah it's more for function not for uh to look good have you ever had an active shooter in your house no but i am from colorado so

Speaker 2 oh right you're from aurora

Speaker 2 yeah are you from like all your buddies are in that gang now Yeah, everyone's Venezuelan. Everyone's a school shooter.
There's a lot going on in Aurora.

Speaker 3 Dude, the second, is it when you step foot in Aurora right over the county line, it starts shooting?

Speaker 2 Or is it you have have to get in yeah once you have to get you have to get registered as school and then i'd like to go to this

Speaker 2 hi is there any seats available in the public

Speaker 1 well that was good let's go back and forth with laying down machine gun fire because these sound effects

Speaker 2 anyway

Speaker 2 it's a ton of town where actual shooters are funny but we'll put a pin in that

Speaker 2 come back to that one

Speaker 2 I live in New York.

Speaker 3 Oh, I will tell you, Dan, quickly,

Speaker 3 I lock the door. I lock the door when I take a shower because I had a break-in once.
But yeah, I don't like to sleep with the door

Speaker 2 open.

Speaker 3 I put a big bolt on it because I'm scared. Now, David.

Speaker 2 Yes. Aren't you worried about locking the door in the shower? Or what if there's an accident in the shower?

Speaker 3 Well, this is a good, I'm glad you brought this up.

Speaker 3 Four out of five times I'm in the shower, there's an accident. No, actually, when I'm on the road, and you know how people put the little bar over the lock?

Speaker 2 So it's like a hook lock.

Speaker 3 And you see TikToks where people go, I bring these nine things to lock my block the little hole. I put this, I put a chair against it.

Speaker 3 I'm not that crazy, but I will say that

Speaker 3 when I do that lock, I always feel like, what if something happens inside and they need to come get me and they can't get in?

Speaker 2 You can't get out. Yeah.
They're just going to take the door completely. Right.
Is that real?

Speaker 3 Is that a real thought? I mean, I don't know. Am I the only one that thinks that's crazy?

Speaker 1 Let me ask a neurotic question. Do you get into the shower?

Speaker 1 Is that it? Neurotic. You get into the shower.
Do you ever wonder as you're turning on the water, gee, I wonder if there'll be some seismic activity while I'm in here? Does that go through your mind?

Speaker 2 Not for me because I'm not in California. I think that's a very Californian way of thinking.

Speaker 2 You guys have faultline brains. Yeah.
And we worry about buildings crumbling. So I wonder if I'm in the building.
Do you ever think an airplane's going to come out of the city?

Speaker 2 Mys comes from terra firma. Yours comes from the sky.

Speaker 1 You don't.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but things fall down in both cities. I'm worried about Delta 126 coming into my shower.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you got you.

Speaker 2 I don't have to worry about the earth swallowing me like you two do.

Speaker 2 I'm even worried about the hologram airplanes, if those are real.

Speaker 3 I don't want those hitting my shower either. Whichever one.

Speaker 1 I got that Pro Plus in my hair while a 7.6

Speaker 2 comes in here. That's why I got per plus.

Speaker 2 It's common toddling jack. I know what.
Oh, Doe, you better not go off on a rant here, Dennis. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Christ's sake, Stan Soder.

Speaker 2 All right.

Speaker 1 His kids are coming up pretty strong. Got a couple of specials out there.

Speaker 1 Friend of all those that posse. That's the new

Speaker 1 rat pack. These cats out there.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 3 You sound like Rodney. Do you do Rodney?

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 I like to do

Speaker 2 my new one is Ben Rodney as a mass shooter. He's like, hey, they're all going to pay.
I'm telling you.

Speaker 2 You guys don't want to be friends with me. Well, now you're not going to have a school to go to.

Speaker 1 See, I love that one comedy. Because I love the idea.

Speaker 1 You saw Rodney and then you thought, what's the best scenario? And then you did it.

Speaker 3 And you go, what's worse than that?

Speaker 2 The language of Rodney.

Speaker 1 Like, that's what's so funny. It's exactly if he was that guy.

Speaker 2 I will not say it. The one I used to do a lot was Woke Rodney, where he would be like, you you know who doesn't get any respect is women of color.
I'm telling you.

Speaker 2 If they say that gender is fluid, well, then I'm in love with a puddle. I'll tell you,

Speaker 2 I'm a white man. I get all the respect.

Speaker 1 And Dan is actually touching his chest.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he's doing Rodney stuff. Don't worry.

Speaker 2 He's doing Rodney stuff.

Speaker 1 That's what Andrew said last week. Andrew Schultz, he said that impressions are coming back.

Speaker 1 And then I was looking around and, you know, obviously Shane does his cadre, cadre, but you're kind of, you do a lot of voices, but you don't, I know, is that a word? But you don't lean on it.

Speaker 1 Your stand-up is just regular stand-up. It's great.
And then you have these impressions. It's kind of cool.
It's like a secret weapon.

Speaker 2 Well, I would honestly,

Speaker 2 you know, it's weird to like be talking to both of you and not acknowledge how important.

Speaker 2 both of your guys's HBO specials were in my life, specifically Critics Choice and Take the Hit.

Speaker 2 Like

Speaker 2 two of the reasons I do comedy. My family's from the Bay Area.
So anyone from the Bay Area was like a demigod in the house.

Speaker 1 San Carlos.

Speaker 2 Where do you go? I know. My father lived in my dad's from the East Bay, but my parents got divorced when I was young.
And I would go live in Marin with him. He lived in Green Braay and Mill Valley.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Worked at a liquor store in Mill Valley called Dan's Liquors.

Speaker 2 Been there. I have a house in Mill Valley.

Speaker 2 Well, what's funny about that is I thought he was working there because he loved me, but it was because he was an alcoholic.

Speaker 2 That kind of feels like a norm joke where it's like, you know, I thought he loved me, but it turned out he was a raging alcohol.

Speaker 2 I know. It's the way he would just slowly go.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the guy thought he was a real good friend, right? We're talking about the game and everything, like the Giants could have won and everything.

Speaker 1 And I realized he's only talking to me because he's a raging alcoholic.

Speaker 2 All right. I'll just randomly do that now because I'm obviously a big norm fan.
But yeah, just explaining my father's drinking problem, it's because he had a raging drinking problem.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it was right.

Speaker 1 He hits it, it's just the normism, but I used to do him as it never got a laugh. I would do norm as an alarm clock.

Speaker 2 Great.

Speaker 1 Hey, wake up. There's a crackhorn and a midget in your bed.

Speaker 1 Because I heard him say crackhorn midget. He did it like 45 times on Conan, and I was just 45.

Speaker 2 You know, when he

Speaker 1 would just work a phrase you're not supposed to say over and over again.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. So him on a Conan, but and then Dave, David, I went to college in Tucson, so I spent time in Arizona in a very uncomfortable way.
Right.

Speaker 2 And there was a moment when I was in college when I was getting high with a guy, and he did the let my tarantula crawl on you.

Speaker 3 Oh my God.

Speaker 2 And it wasn't for shake. It was for a legit bong hit.
Oh, and I was like,

Speaker 2 I was trying to explain the joke, your joke to him while uh Spider evolved. I go, you have to watch this special because he does this as a giant

Speaker 2 boat crawling up me, but that was like, um, yeah, those two specials, especially uh, like when you're young and you watch, you know, I grew up with like cable, I was like the first cable generation, and there weren't many on, so you could kind of watch them and know them, yeah, yeah, just watch them over and over and over.

Speaker 2 It wasn't mandatory now, as it is, yeah, it wasn't in your face, it wasn't like you know, you weren't trying to dodge them

Speaker 2 exactly.

Speaker 2 He was like, It was like you would find it and you would almost be like, I feel like I wonder if musicians go through that with TikTok and stuff, where it's all in your face now, where it used to be fun to probably go to a record store and like dig around the way it was to like tape HBO specials and then watch them and be like, Oh, these are awesome.

Speaker 1 Everything was slow and everything, everything counted. Now it's just a billion pieces coming at you.
But who's your best, who's your tightest friend? Uh, comedian is it Shane or

Speaker 1 a bunch of

Speaker 2 you know, Shane? And I'm real tight with Shane. Uh, Nate Bargazzi and I have known each other.

Speaker 1 How's he doing?

Speaker 2 He's doing fantastic. He's selling out the movie.

Speaker 3 I think Nate's probably got those machines now where you have you count the money like in Scarbase or Scarborough.

Speaker 2 That's all you hear when you're walking coming. And he goes, hey, man, sorry.
I'm going to get I'm going to need to get a different room because this one's filled with money.

Speaker 2 And you're like, oh, topless girls counting money but no cocaine just yeah they got no face mask on

Speaker 2 just he's just a journal

Speaker 1 the kids selling out so many tickets he's playing the state of nebraska okay

Speaker 2 it always makes me think of this line from a bill hicks album where he goes i can't sell out a comedy club and they're draining the ocean to build bleachers for carrot top

Speaker 2 draining the ocean

Speaker 2 that was such a good line that i always think about that with like Nate and my friend, like Schultz and Shane and all these guys doing arenas.

Speaker 2 And I'm like, I'm at a funny bone in short pump, Virginia.

Speaker 2 These guys are like, yeah, the king of England came and watched me do a set. Uncle John.
What's it like to hear that?

Speaker 1 You got a friend, a friend playing clubs, and then it seems it happens really fast these days. where first it's maybe a big, big theater.
Whoa, dude, 3,000.

Speaker 1 And then it's sort of an arena, like a 15 or 20.

Speaker 2 or you know it's what i like about it is i think uh stand-up comics specifically you know you know it's always in the rock bios that they get like carried away with it and they're like well they we owe this this is what we're owed comics i think in general are just like what the fuck is this this is crazy like shane i'm i'm opening for shane in uh he's doing arena shows in cleveland and dc and i did a couple with him a couple weeks ago and he jokingly walked up to me and he goes, I just wanted to headline a Thursday at Helium in Philly.

Speaker 2 No, she did. Got out of control.
That's how it starts. If you can fill up a week, yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 So, I mean, I think it's awesome, man. I'm very happy for all those guys that are doing just, you know, I never thought stand-up would be as big as, you know, hair metal.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Do you think it's, I mean, I think those stadiums are the bigger, the bigger gigs, if I'm in them, I'm not really filling them, but when I do them, it's with other people.

Speaker 3 It's a different sort of pace. It's a different sort of everything and i sort of miss

Speaker 3 just my type of jokes are a little and plus i'm kind of quiet and maybe i mumble i don't know but it's better for a little smaller uh area but you know when i go on tour it's not that big but i was i saw a picture on shane's instagram of uh which is depressing of uh

Speaker 3 it's like a slide of places filled arenas and i think i'm i think i'm like watching a ufc fight and i see dinky shane in the middle i go oh it's just stand-up.

Speaker 3 But it feels like sometimes when I'm up there, I feel like my energy isn't enough to match how much is in the room. And it's very odd.

Speaker 1 Well, that's why Nate is such an outlier there. Yeah.
He plays it so intimate.

Speaker 1 What's his secret? I mean, what is he doing? It's so amazing.

Speaker 2 His jokes are just

Speaker 3 so good at it.

Speaker 2 When we were coming up, I always called him the Bassett Hound of comedy. He just

Speaker 2 got. Yeah.
Oh, he was a big fan of that. He definitely.

Speaker 2 He did have a bit of a ghostly idea behind it yeah i miss old fat nate dude i want yeah where's fatty dude where's fat nate he used to look like jared from subway fat nate should be a cartoon on

Speaker 2 i would 100 watch that old fat nate nate used to look like a guy that fixed like uh ferris wheels and now and now he looks now he looks like the ceo of a blood company where you're like i don't even know what this you're wearing space pants it was wild yeah he's something.

Speaker 3 I see clips. But there's less clips now, I think, which is smart because I think the market was flooded.

Speaker 3 There's Theo clips, there's Nate Clips, and there's almost Shane Clips.

Speaker 2 Shane clips.

Speaker 2 Shane Clips are everything. I see more Shane as Trump clips.
Yeah, his Trump is perfect. His Trump is.

Speaker 3 It's a secret weapon.

Speaker 2 Dana, do you, when you rate other people's... Like

Speaker 2 when you go up to your chart and you do the rating.

Speaker 2 When you do the rating, who has been your, because, you know, know baldwin obviously was the classical pick by snl but i would argue that shane does the the perfect trump well

Speaker 1 i would say i go by funniness more than accuracy for my personal taste i think that james austin johnson is like jazz with it you know he's got so many hooks and so much it's almost an overrunning thing shane first of all he's he's a little doughy like trump so he kind of can beat trump he's big he's tall tall.

Speaker 2 That's going to get him to punch a wall.

Speaker 1 And when you see, well, he's not Trump, but you know what I mean. I mean, what am I going to play Trump at 145 pounds?

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 1 he makes me laugh the most when he does it. So that's why I go by.

Speaker 3 Well, he goes a little more racy. He does more stuff that's a little like when it's on Kill Tony or something.

Speaker 1 Edgier. I think Tyler Fisher has some hooks that are really, really great as well.
Really some interesting hooks.

Speaker 2 I think Shane's speed dating on Gillian Keeves, that the sketch show, when he does Trump spade, you're right. He like nails the dirtiness of it that you know Trump kind of has.

Speaker 2 So it's kind of funny to be.

Speaker 3 He kind of thinks and doesn't quite get there, but he's close.

Speaker 1 Yeah. He's close.
He said a lot of people.

Speaker 3 Trump knows he's like a comedian and he goes for laughs. Like, and I saw him at a thing the other day he was doing a press conference.
I was, we're uh Republicans for gays.

Speaker 2 He's like, you don't look gay.

Speaker 2 And everyone laughs. He's like, ha ha ha ha ha.
Go ahead. Here's a question.
And everyone's like, it was fine with it.

Speaker 3 Like, who says that? Obama never said that to anyone.

Speaker 2 That would be funny. He goes, you know, well, you don't look gay.

Speaker 2 You're not gay. You don't woke up.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's very, yeah, that's very shame.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I do, I do.
Trump woke. That's that's my only

Speaker 1 if he was woke. How would it sound in his language? We're going to take care of trans women.
We're going to take care of what's happening to them is quite frankly a disgrace.

Speaker 1 They ought to be able to compete with the girls. I don't care if they're six foot three with flippers for hands and feet.

Speaker 2 You got to put them in the pool.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that is my that is my favorite thing to do with a voice is to completely take it out of context and make it applicable. That was, you know, I screen tested twice for SNL.
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Speaker 1 We'd like to hear about that.

Speaker 2 I don't want you to go through your voice.

Speaker 2 You guys wanted me, you wanted to hear about the failure.

Speaker 1 Well, I'm just, after seeing your beef today and seeing you on billions, realizing you're an actor, you could play the game show guy, you could play the dad, you could do all that.

Speaker 1 And then you also have all these

Speaker 1 really cool takes and impressions. So what happened? You should still be nervous.

Speaker 2 I got too nervous. I got way too nervous when they I auditioned.
My agent told me to do characters and voices, even though I was doing. That's not all you do.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And I was like, well, why don't I do stand-up? And then I can do a couple like impressions at the end. And they were like, no, they want you all, they want you to do all characters and impressions.

Speaker 2 And I was like, okay, great. And the first one went well, but then, you know, you get the call to come to 30 Rock and go to 8H.

Speaker 2 And it's like,

Speaker 2 as a fan, as like a lifelong SNL fan, it's very intimidating. Oh, and it also

Speaker 2 at the, that it was, it was for season 40. It was before season 40.
and

Speaker 2 um

Speaker 2 i wasn't planning on ever auditioning for snl i just loved it i just loved it as a fan and then i was writing a cartoon for comedy central with brian tucker who at the time was the head writer and he was like you should audition man i was like i don't know and then i did and i got you know i got to do the screen test and it got in my head i just got like

Speaker 2 I

Speaker 2 wish I could have redone that because I think if I would have been more relaxed, I would have done a lot. I mean, I watch everyone's Dana.

Speaker 2 I've watched your audition tape over a hundred times because of YouTube. You get to watch Phil Hartman's.
Oh, wow.

Speaker 2 You can go find all of them. It's crazy they have those.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 And they're just floating around. Yeah, I never heard of that.
And I think that did me, you know, I used to open for Colin Quinn and Colin would always go,

Speaker 2 he go, yeah, you know, he go, that's the problem with your generation. You guys know every damn thing that happened in comedy.
You can't even be surprised with anything.

Speaker 2 So, and I was always like, I don't know if I believe that. And then now I'm like, oh, he was absolutely right.
It was like the weight of knowing too much.

Speaker 3 For sure. I wouldn't know of anyone's audition.
You just hear about it.

Speaker 1 You've heard that story a few times from different people.

Speaker 1 I think Kyle Dunagan told a story of just feeling remorse.

Speaker 1 You know, I got to do stand-up in front of Lauren Michaels in a club.

Speaker 2 A good crowd.

Speaker 1 A cat club with a good audience and got to do 40 minutes

Speaker 1 before I had to go do do the kind of 8H, but it was actually in Burbank and Jim Carrey was on that audition too. Was he really? Yeah, putting his foot behind his head and

Speaker 2 stuff. Well, they got to hire this guy.
Put his balls in his mouth.

Speaker 3 I mean, it was tough.

Speaker 2 I don't even know how he got that.

Speaker 2 Or inside the game. I was with the impression in the green room.
But it's funny.

Speaker 2 I was on the way in.

Speaker 2 I've never seen balls in a mouth.

Speaker 2 It's just funny. It doesn't need a

Speaker 1 something of a technical, testicles in an orifice is always a good.

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 1 Eric Idle and I used to talk about it with Jeffy and Danny and Biddy and Maul.

Speaker 2 Can I tell you guys a character I've been doing on the road?

Speaker 2 And this is.

Speaker 2 uh a lot of comics are um very rich right now and they suck they like they're not good at stand-up and so yeah i've been doing this character that is a um an african shaman that i pay to tell people the truth.

Speaker 2 So he just goes up to him and he goes,

Speaker 2 I do, I do not like your comedy. I do not think you are funny.
I do not think you have punchlines. You are just saying bad words.
You are not funny. And then they go like,

Speaker 2 they go, oh, fuck, man. That kind of hurts.
And then it like catches on in comedy where like, you know, people are buying.

Speaker 2 So you're at the seller and there's like four shaman walking around being like, I think that you, you do bad jokes. I do not not like you.

Speaker 2 And then the punchline that I had with my opener was that it gets back to Lauren and he's like,

Speaker 2 Dana had a shaman in 89.

Speaker 2 It really split the cast. He was pretty mean to a couple of the feature players.
Yeah,

Speaker 2 for sure.

Speaker 2 That is Lauren is like, David, the shaman wants to see you.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Oh, David, Adam got a shaman.
He wants to talk to you. With me, he'd go why are you gay

Speaker 2 you do like the boys but he sounds like why are you gay guy yeah that's the that's the whole that's where i got that impression that guy is funny well why is the show funny why are you gaying Keep going with that, man.

Speaker 1 That's really funny.

Speaker 1 And get really specific with maybe the cliches of stand-up like he gets into. Another 7-11 joke we do not need.

Speaker 2 Why are you canceling is not a thing. I fought in the Sudanese civil war.
I do not worry about being cancelled.

Speaker 1 I cut the bitch is not a punchline.

Speaker 2 The audience answering for you is not a punchline.

Speaker 1 It just shocks value.

Speaker 2 Why do you make them do the work?

Speaker 2 And then he's like, he gets really out of date you know jerry lewis is who you should be doing he's like hey i had a shaman come up to me and tell me i talked to the box thing

Speaker 2 that's great but um so the snl thing yeah it was it literally was like before day um the director's name was dave dave dave wilson davy wilson he was cool as

Speaker 2 he is

Speaker 2 he was great he goes hey man i had like you know my cowboy hat and like other things that i was going to put a wagon full of

Speaker 2 yeah

Speaker 2 where do i put my wagon excuse me i have my little uh streamers

Speaker 2 but he was like he was like hey man just have fun or whatever and then i remember this is the moment i remember where i tightened up is i i stepped onto eighth and i went like man

Speaker 2 farley phil hartman belushi murray carvey

Speaker 2 too much it just and it just was like just the weight was just like pressing me down and then i just don't feel like i did like

Speaker 2 the first year i think i had like better voices and stuff the second year is the one i broke lauren in the room and that was uh even though i didn't get it i was like i i like that because i did

Speaker 2 what made lauren break i did uh winnie the poo addicted to honey where he was like i don't i don't know if you've ever woken up at a truck stop in just a red t-shirt being a being a man named Jimbo's lot lizard for a couple pots of honey and i just heard him go like that.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 3 That's a good Winnie the Pooh. I've never heard anybody do Winnie the Pooh.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And I know.

Speaker 1 A lot of people do Eeyore.

Speaker 3 Adam Eager sounds like Eeyore.

Speaker 2 He's like, well, I got a book, another.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I don't know.
You can come in if you want.

Speaker 2 Joe's mad at me.

Speaker 2 Took my tail again. Tim Dylan missed his flight.

Speaker 3 I got to go tell him.

Speaker 2 Jane's got another friend, I have to know.

Speaker 2 How many comps do they get?

Speaker 3 Is there a number?

Speaker 3 Shit, but when you go in there, how many people? Because first of all, someone goes in there before you audition with a hose and sucks all the fun out of the room.

Speaker 2 It's like the most grossest time to walk.

Speaker 3 You go, oh.

Speaker 2 It's funny because all the stand-ups were pacing. Me, Andrew Santino, and Pete Davis.

Speaker 2 Oh, you guys are all doing it?

Speaker 2 We were all pacing, and all the improv actors were just comfortably in the green room,

Speaker 2 like going over their lines and then you're just hearing people killing people oh the worst just murder and then you're like and then when you're up there you're like i don't think mine got that big of a laugh but then

Speaker 2 it was you know i i knew a couple of the bits and what's funny is i wrote a um michael che that was the year michael che was coming back from daily show to go do weekend update that was like his first year on weekend update and uh we're buddies and he was like well why don't I come over and go through your audition, you know, just to like give you notes or whatever and help?

Speaker 2 And I was like, Yeah, that'd be awesome. So there I was like confident in a couple of the characters.
I just don't think I performed confidently, or

Speaker 2 I just don't think I relaxed. I think if I would have relaxed, I would have done a lot better.

Speaker 3 You know what, Shay helps because if you're on the inside, like when I was writing sketches, starting out, of course, you don't even know how to write a sketch.

Speaker 3 You just got the audition and I was like a pretty good middle. So I'm not even a headliner.
I I mean, and then they go, Here's a pad, right?

Speaker 3 And then, if you have someone on the inside, just walk you through because after a while, I think what I write is funny, and after a few weeks, you can see something stand out at read-through.

Speaker 3 You go, This wouldn't work. You can just read it ahead of time and go, This room is not going to buy it.
And you don't know that when you're auditioning.

Speaker 3 And so, if someone can go, I can't explain why. I just know this is the kind of thing that's going to set off a red flag, and that does help.

Speaker 2 Yeah, because he was really, I had like a couple different characters. One character, he's like, You should do that.
One one. Was I did, um,

Speaker 2 I did the honest 1950s Alabama football recruiter where he went, you, my,

Speaker 2 I was like, I had like one of those straw hats. I went, my friend, you are one of the fastest men I've ever seen on the ground and you are going to need those legs off campus.

Speaker 2 They are not happy about us recruiting a black man. And it was just like,

Speaker 2 and Jay thought it was hilarious. And I was like, yeah, all right, I'll do that.
Cause there were a couple where I was like, I don't know.

Speaker 2 I did Sam, um sam elliott used to do these coors commercials and and this is in 2014 so this is like sure pretty much before the the trans thing became mainstream but you do these coors beer commercials and i grew up in you know my mom raised me in uh aurora colorado and in colorado there was a place called trinidad Colorado, where they used to perform the sex change operations.

Speaker 2 Like everyone in Colorado knew it was like, oh, you go to Trinidad to have a sex change.

Speaker 3 Was it bigger there than the rest of the country?

Speaker 2 So it was even more aware of that.

Speaker 2 And I think that was, I think, but I tried to explain it in the setup of like everyone who grew up in Colorado knew if you were going to Trinidad, it was for a sex change operation.

Speaker 3 It was like Turkey for a hair transplant.

Speaker 2 Exactly, exactly. Or like Brazil for a butt lift.
It was just like they knew it.

Speaker 2 And then I did Sam Elliott doing a commercial for Trinidad, Colorado, where it was like, if you were born with the wrong parts, well, there's a place in Colorado that can take your Audi and turn it into an inning.

Speaker 2 I'm talking about Trinidad, Colorado, lopping off. And I think it might have been too.

Speaker 3 Maybe it was the eight-minute setup.

Speaker 2 Maybe you didn't need to read a whole epilogue. You've got a chart.

Speaker 2 Here's a map of the U.S. You can see in 1988, it's sparking.

Speaker 1 Sam Mellett talks about where to go to get a sex change operation.

Speaker 2 There it is. You know what? I probably should have got, yeah, I would have loved to have gotten notes from you guys before I did it.

Speaker 1 Well, one thing I could tell you is that then later on, there's people in a room, and there's a lot of great things being said about a lot of people, and probably for sure, you. Yeah, man.

Speaker 1 And it's going, the cards are going in and out.

Speaker 3 All you need is one person who doesn't like you, and you can kill you. Like, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 And also, he likes to cast, like, if you didn't get it, who was close to you, or they already have a you like, we have a Phil Hartman, and we, that's when they had like maybe Michael McKeon came, and they're thinking about more than what I'm thinking, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 They're just not just funny, they're going, we don't have a Jan Hooks, who would be someone that's versatile, female, cute, you know, that kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 The thing I was told was it was the year after Sudakis left, and they were like, you need a kind of an older white dude who can play a dad, who can play a teacher,

Speaker 1 Be kind of hulking if he needed to.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And so I think that's why I got far because, you know, it was, it was nice, like, Spade, what you said about having someone that's like kind of on the inside that can tell you because Brian Tucker, I was his guy, you know, like, and he's the head writer.

Speaker 2 I think I was like privy to the process more than anyone else that was going through it because Brian was like, they like you. You're in like the top five.
I don't know if you're going to meet Lorne.

Speaker 2 You might get a call. Be prepared for a call at any moment.
Then I didn't get that call. And then he kind of, you know, Tucker was there to be like, I think they're going to go with Pete Davidson.

Speaker 2 And Pete was my opener. Oh, wow.
Like Pete was like opening for me. He had been featuring me for me on the road.
I've known Pete since he was like 15.

Speaker 2 And so it was funny listening to him be like, I don't even know if I want it. You know, like I would talk to him on the phone

Speaker 2 and he'd be like, I don't think I'm going to get it. Do you think I'm going to get it? And then he got it.
And he was like, I don't know.

Speaker 2 I think I'm, I think I'm going gonna do it and you're like he's like great yeah so if you said there was was it three auditioning just three dudes and then one got it no it was like 16 17 of us how many got it who else Pete one it was just Pete oh wow so that's such a different choice that you can no women per se and Michael no no women and Michael J had the funniest you know because we're still good buddies and like it me up because

Speaker 2 you know I took it as I wasn't funny I know everything you're saying now makes sense that they're casting what they're looking for.

Speaker 2 But when you go and you do it, you just go like, if I, but if I would have been funnier, I would have got it. Like, that's what I kept thinking.
And then Jay goes, no, man, Pete's cool.

Speaker 2 You're like an older white dude. He's like, Pete's like 19.
His dad died in 9-11. And I was like, yeah, that's a way better story.
Yeah, you blew it. I blew it.
My dad died next to a lake

Speaker 2 outside of Ukaia. That's not very hooky.

Speaker 3 Well, that is tough. I agree that he does like someone.
You know, he's got Marcelo now. So it's like young, cool, good-looking dude.
And there's just

Speaker 3 once one of everything, I think.

Speaker 2 And here's the thing about Lauren. He's right.
Like, look what look, Pete blew up, and Marcelo is like incredible. So it's like, he knows what he wants.
It's his show. It's also why it's been around.

Speaker 3 And then you get girls watching and, you know, he's got to cover all the bases. But to say you lost, it's like going to the Olympics and going, they liked me, but I got 11th.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that was exactly it. Where they were like, oh, but you auditioned.
It's like, cool. I'm not going to wear my team USA jacket when I did that.
I got close.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you got to the Olympics. That's what you did.
You got to the end and you just

Speaker 1 is that you can't help.

Speaker 3 Mostly comics are insecure anyway. So going into that room from me to you to Dana, you're just going, why would I be here? This is not even what I even thought about.
Like, and now, do I deserve it?

Speaker 2 Am I good enough and if i'm not that makes more sense in a weird way it really um you know i think it it it made me focus on stand-up which i appreciate a lot and it was a thing where i you know i'm a alcoholic like i've been sober for 12 years yeah let's look at a clip and

Speaker 3 you passed out and you're winning the push shirt it's just me crying on a subway

Speaker 1 notes from shane bring up alcoholism

Speaker 2 shane Shane's so mad because I quit drinking before I met Shane. And Shane is like, I just want to get you out there one more night.
And you're like, brother. Just do a few reps.

Speaker 1 So how does that relate to that?

Speaker 2 I just feel like if I would have got SNL, it would have been a situation that I probably would have drank in. That I think I would have gone at such a high pressure.

Speaker 2 It's fun, high pressure. It's cool.
It's like everything that I would have been like, well, let me just have a drink.

Speaker 2 You would deserve it. Yeah, I would go I'm hanging out with Bono from YouTube.

Speaker 2 Have a beer.

Speaker 3 And you're at the after party, and everyone's like, Don't be a pussy.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And then they're like, You took the Edges hat.

Speaker 2 And now YouTube hates it.

Speaker 3 Remember when you wore the Edges' hat and he was so fucking mad?

Speaker 2 And you're like, I did

Speaker 2 Marcelo has hired me to tell you, you can no longer drink at the after party. Yeah, I have a problem.

Speaker 1 That character can go anywhere. It is interesting, though.

Speaker 1 I would almost want to be there and just see, because, you know,

Speaker 1 if you're watching open micers and stuff, you know for yourself if the room is dead or if you're following someone really blue and you got to deal with that energy.

Speaker 1 But what was the energy, the three, four before you? Because I'm sure on a given night, because I've seen your stuff, you're out there and you're going, right now, the vibe is I'm.

Speaker 1 the best guy doing stand-up on planet Earth right now. I mean, there is that vibe can happen to any really great stand-up.
And so I'd have to go back and see what it was in that moment.

Speaker 1 And it's, it's probably nothing to do with you, you know.

Speaker 2 You know, it's, I snuck in like two before me just to see what the energy was like.

Speaker 2 And when you walk in, you know, through the back, like the main entrance of 8H, and I like peek around and it was like, I forget who it was, just like throwing confetti and being like, oh my God, a little fucking piggy.

Speaker 2 And I was like,

Speaker 2 yeah, it's like,

Speaker 2 that's someone going on in auditioning, you're saying i'm saying at 8h like i saw like a props and stuff

Speaker 2 and you were just like oh

Speaker 2 oh

Speaker 2 wrong and then i did i also i i mean i really should have just fought to do stand-up and impressions at the end because i think i would have just gone out and been like they would have gotten a better

Speaker 1 yeah but also you know if they had someone had just not told you we're going to audition and you were just walking down the street can you go up there yeah in two minutes that probably with no prep you that's exactly exactly what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 You can do that three days later. I've done sets like that where I bomb, and three days later, I'm at some club doing great.
And I'm like, why wasn't what's the difference? Why is this working?

Speaker 2 You were people in a room. Now you're people in a room.
Yeah. Why was that so?

Speaker 3 How many were there? I never know how many come to watch.

Speaker 2 I don't know. In the back, I could only see, you know, they like stay out of the light.

Speaker 3 Gross.

Speaker 2 I know. They just vampire you.

Speaker 3 But it's like all that jazz. They're like,

Speaker 3 should I start?

Speaker 2 Hello? Yeah. It's like Roy Schneider

Speaker 3 I think that's what happened to Kyle Dunnegan he goes he walked out and the guy goes whatever you do don't do it until they say three two one and then he goes he went out and Lauren goes are you gonna go and he goes no this guy said and then he goes three two one and he goes uh and he's immediately off on the wrong foot didn't someone go out there when and then they had taken a break and didn't tell him and there was no one out there and he had to miss off

Speaker 1 it's like going to the

Speaker 2 electric chair and there's everyone's at lunch.

Speaker 1 You're not going to go to the electric chair in an hour.

Speaker 2 Some guy fixing the bleachers goes like, hey, that's a pretty good Woody Harrelson. I liked it.

Speaker 2 When they come back, they're going to like it. Oh, you're not here?

Speaker 2 Excuse me, sir? Like, try to get out of the lunch. Black cabaret style.
I know.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Getting your lavalier mic on and talking to you.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you know.

Speaker 2 It was one of those things where immediately when I left, I was like, oh, I could do that. I could have done that so much better.
Sickening feeling. I could have done that so much better.

Speaker 2 And it is like, and then the second year, the next year, I like kind of knew I, you know, I didn't do any of the preliminary auditions.

Speaker 2 They just called me the week of screen tests and they were like, that's at least nice.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, that's very complimentary. I mean, obviously

Speaker 1 you were on their radar. Go ahead.

Speaker 2 Yeah. But they were like, you, can you do a, I think they wanted someone that could do a Jeb Bush? They wanted someone that could do.

Speaker 3 I can do Jed Clampett.

Speaker 2 Yeah. But it was a thing where I was like,

Speaker 1 nothing there.

Speaker 2 I was like, I could try.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I was like, I could try.
And they were like, and then just bring three new voices. And that's when I did Winnie the Pooh and I think a couple other ones.
And they were like, okay. And then

Speaker 2 they were pretty quick back to me. Like, nah, not this year.
But it was nice. Pete got it again.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Pete goes, you know, like you can get it twice. You can get it twice in the back of yours.

Speaker 3 He quit, and then they hired him back.

Speaker 1 We didn't see anybody good.

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Speaker 2 The funniest was,

Speaker 2 you know, talking about how insecure comics are and how, you know, something like that is, even though it is like a cool thing, it's still a loss. The first, the season premiere of SNL 40,

Speaker 2 which by the way, I think they did take one of my things and kind of which you signed the contract. So I'm not like mad about it.
But one of the things I did,

Speaker 2 one of the sketches I did was Jason Statham's Edible Arrangements, where I was like, if you're proud of your family, send them a bouquet, but not a flowers, but a fruit made of fists.

Speaker 2 How about you kick them with some cantaloupe with Jason Statham's edible arrangements? And then

Speaker 2 one of the sketches that they cut was Jason Statham's Jason Stakums. That was like that episode.

Speaker 3 And I was like, oh, right after you audition.

Speaker 2 That's a little too close to the bone there.

Speaker 2 But that's also, in all fairness, and people love to leave this part out whenever they tell about sketches. You sign a contract going like, hey, I'm giving you these ideas.

Speaker 2 Like when you audition, there is a contract that's like, whatever they see, if they like it, you know, it's going to be theirs. And I completely understood that.
So I wasn't mad about that.

Speaker 3 But it says in the contract, we will not hire you, but we do love these ideas.

Speaker 2 But good joke.

Speaker 2 But the first SNL, SNL 40 premiere, I was at the stand here in New York at their old location. And I was doing the 8 to 10 in the midnight.

Speaker 2 And I was very excited to watch Che on weekend update because, you know, I've known him since we were doing open mics together. And

Speaker 2 8 and 10 o'clock show were great. Midnight show, I bombed so hard.
I had like flop sweat. Like it was through

Speaker 2 both shirts I was wearing. And I went first on the show and just absolutely fucking bombed.
And then I go upstairs to where the restaurant is at the stand and they have it. SNLs on all the screens.

Speaker 2 And it's Che on weekend update, which I'm excited about. I'm like,

Speaker 2 I'm excited. So I watched Che do a couple of jokes and then he does the thing where he's like, and now I'd like to introduce our newest cast member, our young people correspondent, Pete Davidson.

Speaker 2 And Pete's got phenomenal stand-up jokes. And he comes out and Pete fucking murdered on his first weekend update.
And I'm sitting there watching it with hot sweat drying on my forehead.

Speaker 2 And Pete had a roommate at the time named Derek, who's a comic, black dude in New York. He's a comic.

Speaker 2 And Pete's killing. I'm watching, and Derek is walking up and down the stand going, he's the next Eddie Murphy.
He's the next Eddie Red. I'm just fucking standing there watching this.

Speaker 2 Still escalating. Yeah, I'm like,

Speaker 2 of course, my dad's going to come back from the dead and be like, I'm proud of him, not you. He was wrong.
He is the GOAT.

Speaker 2 He is the GOAT.

Speaker 2 Is nobody funnier than this man? And you're just like, ah, fuck.

Speaker 2 It's an emotionally vibe.

Speaker 1 I bombed horribly following Sam Kennison at midnight. when at the comedy store the original room with no mc in between

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 dead silent.

Speaker 2 I mean, just death. What does Sam bring in standing?

Speaker 2 All right, this next young man.

Speaker 2 I go, what's up?

Speaker 2 And then I saw a little painting lights up.

Speaker 1 I look over. It'd been lit up.
And so,

Speaker 1 yeah, it took me a couple months to get over that. I thought SNL was out of there.

Speaker 2 You remember every bomb. You remember every bomb so accurately that you're just

Speaker 1 turned so fast.

Speaker 3 You would have done better if they saw you. They saw me and Rob Schneider at the maybe Catch Rising Star, but we didn't do that well.

Speaker 3 But Dennis Miller was saying they're just gonna look at the writing so that you don't even have to do well.

Speaker 3 And they just want to see kind of what you're thinking and if it's a little weird or a little something.

Speaker 3 And they don't, they didn't have one of me. They had Dana, but they were like, I was brought as a writer and Schneider.

Speaker 3 And they didn't have one who wanted to look like Schneider, so he got on quicker. And then Sandler, you know, Sandler was unique and Farley was very unique.

Speaker 3 So I'm just saying that when I walked off stage, I was kind of like, ah, tough. There's probably 25 people in that crowd that night.
Probably 10 SNL, 12 SNL, 12.

Speaker 2 So they were like about half of it.

Speaker 3 Yeah, like comes in, like they come in into a crowd that's not that full.

Speaker 3 And then you see, like, you hear, and it's like Jim Downey and Lawrence, you know, and then all these people that are, and some cast members.

Speaker 3 I think anyone's invited because I remember being there and Marcy Klein going, they're doing auditions If you guys want to stop by, or like, how horrible to see us all come in and watch.

Speaker 2 And, like, I just said it, dude. If I would have walked in there and just Kristen Wigg would have been staring at me.
I know. Like, what's this fucking chump got? Just not even blinking.

Speaker 2 Oh, God. Are you mad at me?

Speaker 3 I was there for Louie's. I watched Louie's.

Speaker 2 Oh, at the Caroline's, right?

Speaker 3 Dana Your Boy, Louie.

Speaker 2 Mean, the guy, me, my head writer? Louis?

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 from the Dana Carvey show my head writer what dude Dana Carvey Show. Let me tell you right now that affected me

Speaker 1 It did me too.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you but as a as a

Speaker 2 little boy that uh was was your biggest fan when they took off the Dana Carvey show that was a bad Monday for everyone in my class. I was I know we had murderers row boy

Speaker 2 Colbert fuck you guys had the fucking best yeah that documentary was phenomenal it really was like it's funny because I would tell people about Dana Carvey, the Dana Carvey show sketches, and they would treat me like I was crazy, like people that it was like a Mandela effect.

Speaker 2 Like I was misremembering something, where I would do the nauseous waiter was always one that I'd be like, oh yeah, that was a killer.

Speaker 1 That was Colbert and Carel.

Speaker 2 And when you guys would pay for stuff and drive away, your bad pranks. Through

Speaker 2 pranks. They still show those.
They show those on Instagram now.

Speaker 1 Thought I was going to lose Steve. I mean, he was so committed and flipping out in that car and the veins were popping out of his head.
I said, between texts, we'll flip out.

Speaker 1 But I mean, you know, it's okay.

Speaker 2 Chill out, dude.

Speaker 1 But, you know, when you, it's, it's the same, it's just getting the lens on people. Like, it was just Colbert and Corell, just two guys.
We, I, we nickname the two Steves.

Speaker 1 And then as they emerge and they go on, you go, oh, it was, it was Steve Corell. And, you know, so I would, you know, if I was your manager agent, I would still float you around for SNL.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I don't know. I think I could just put it out there.

Speaker 1 I think they could use your versatility and your impressions, your take on things.

Speaker 2 I don't know.

Speaker 1 I don't think there's any, you know, Phil Hartman got on at 38 or 39.

Speaker 2 I mean, that audition, you want to see the perfect audition. The guy, first off, just comes out, does the

Speaker 2 private eye, the perfect private eye voice.

Speaker 1 Chick Hazard.

Speaker 2 Chick Hazard, yeah.

Speaker 2 I was dancing cheek to cheek with a bar. And it's like, it's perfect.
And then his impressions are in fucking German. He does his impressions in German as the best German

Speaker 2 impressionist.

Speaker 1 A legend at the ground lanes already.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I got it. And didn't really even see him do the show.
It's funny. He talks.

Speaker 2 He does like an infomercial voice where he's like, it's the Stungon, the Infredable Stungon. And he does the three different rays and he goes, look, there's Bonnie Bernstein.

Speaker 2 And he like hits him with one. And you hear people in the back laugh.
Like you hear him break everyone there. They go like, ah, that's good.

Speaker 2 Cause he's just doing his, he's doing the impression and then breaks to go like, he would, Bonnie Brosting, you're frozen.

Speaker 3 He would always be called in for the voiceover.

Speaker 2 It's Happy Fun Ball. Oh, it's the best.

Speaker 3 Happy Fun Ball is a top 10 commercial.

Speaker 1 When we did church chat, David and I the past fall, Phil, they still use Phil's.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 People caught it and it's a little emotional. Now it's time for church chat.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But that's, you know,

Speaker 1 you have a wide skill set. I mean, you're in the Phil Hartman territory

Speaker 1 as far as what I can tell.

Speaker 3 Looks like a carpenter. And do you tell

Speaker 2 bring you up like that?

Speaker 3 This next guy looks like a carpenter.

Speaker 2 This guy's going to fix stuff, but he can do voices. Yeah.
So that's it.

Speaker 3 He's going to fix your funny bone.

Speaker 2 That's what you should say.

Speaker 3 Oh, before we get or let you go, I got to ask a quick question about you did. You did say you're from Arizona.
You went to dirt bags to drink, maybe that

Speaker 3 bar. And you were in.
What did you do in Drunk Parents?

Speaker 2 Oh,

Speaker 2 I had a scene with Alec Baldwin in a diner. I did a, I mean,

Speaker 2 this is pretty, this was pretty awesome. Number one,

Speaker 2 when I went in to audition, it was just like, you know, a regular old audition. And then I walk, Dirty Work's one of my favorite movies of all time.
Dirty Work.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's like I love it. It's like

Speaker 2 didn't Fred co-write Dirty Work? No.

Speaker 2 That's why. So I walk in and Fred, Fred Wolfe is sitting there.
And I go, oh, shit, Fred Wolf. Like I walk in and that was my first reaction.
I go, you're Fred Wolf.

Speaker 2 And he goes, you know, you know him. He's like, oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah. Hey, Dan.
Yeah, and I go,

Speaker 2 Norm, you know, Norma wrote a lot of that stuff. That's really funny.

Speaker 1 You're really good.

Speaker 2 You're not so good. But he goes, he goes, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 And I go, I was just quoting Dirty Work the other day, where Chevy Chase's line, where he goes, you know, the worst part of these bookies is they break your legs and they still expect you to pay you the money.

Speaker 2 And he goes, he goes, yeah, that. And then I auditioned and it went like, all right, or whatever.
And then I left. And then Fred came out and he was like, hey, there's another role.

Speaker 2 Could you read for it? If I gave you like 15, 20 minutes, could you like learn the sides and come in and do this other role? And I was like, yeah, sure. And so I just did it.
And I came back in.

Speaker 2 And it was the role that I ended up getting, which was Rusty, who's a guy who sells catalytic converters or is like trying to recruit Alec Baldwin to steal catalytic converters.

Speaker 2 And so that was like, we just filmed in this diner up in the Bronx for like a morning. But the best, the thing I'll always remember is, I went to a really tough breakup, like right then.

Speaker 2 Like a girl just absolutely crushed me. And then I had to go film with Alec Baldwin.

Speaker 2 And the night before I filmed, I was at the stand again and I saw Judah Freelander. And I was like, hey, I'm going to see your buddy, Alec Baldwin.

Speaker 2 And Judah was like, tell him you're a stand-up comedian. He loves stand-up comedians.
And I was like, awesome. So we're in the makeup trailer and he comes in and I introduce myself.

Speaker 2 And I was like, hey,

Speaker 2 my name's Dan. I'm a stand-up comedian.
I'm playing Rusty or whatever. And Judah Friedlander, I saw him last night.
He says hello. And he did the, tell the world champion.
I say hello.

Speaker 2 And then he like sat down in his makeup chair. And

Speaker 2 throughout the, you know, he's like, he direct his, he like kind of directed his own scene where he was like. No, put the camera right there.
No, put the camera right there.

Speaker 2 And then he like, and then like, I'm across a diner just like watching Alec Baldwin. I mean, 30 Rock is my favorite television show of all time.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 I'm watching Jack Donaghy just fucking rip it in front of me. Yeah.
And I, and, you know, he always, he is Jack Donaghy. Like, I know he isn't, but he is in my head.
Of course, yeah.

Speaker 2 He's like, Lemon, that's not how that goes. But he,

Speaker 2 so we're filming and then we, uh, we break to, to, um, you know, move stuff around and to get my coverage. And he's talking to me and we're like eating this plate of fries.
And I'm like,

Speaker 2 yeah, I went through a really bad breakup this weekend. And he just talked me through it.
He was like, what happened? And I like tell him.

Speaker 2 And he was like,

Speaker 2 I just remember, I go, we were so hot and heavy before Christmas. And then she went away and it kind of changed.
And Alec Baldwin dips a fry. And he goes, someone got in her ear.

Speaker 2 And then he eats the fry.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that sounds like Alec. And then we're like, we're like talking.
And then he,

Speaker 2 at this one point, he goes, you know, I went through a tough breakup in 2000. And I went, Yeah, Kim Basinger.
Yeah, Kim Basinger, yeah, he went, Yeah, it was a tough breakup.

Speaker 2 And then he like, he was just giving me this, like, uh, it was really sweet. He was just giving me this like advice, and uh, it was, it was awesome.

Speaker 1 He loves to talk about stuff every time, anything.

Speaker 3 He would love it, he likes to be funny, and you're very curious.

Speaker 2 He'd be like, What happened? But it just broke me when he dipped the fry and he went, Someone came here.

Speaker 2 And you're like, It's funny, dude. Yeah, dude.

Speaker 1 Um, I want to, before I get, I want you to do a couple of impressions for us. But first of all, Front Desk Energy, that is your podcast.
Did I get that right?

Speaker 2 Oh, no, that's just a byline. It's just called Soder.

Speaker 1 It's just called Soder and the episode.

Speaker 2 Okay. Yeah, it's just called, it's just my last name.

Speaker 1 Soder podcast. Okay.
Front Desk Energy was the name of the episode with Shane.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Shane. It was actually the day after.
What's funny about that? That was the day after Shane hosted SNL the first time. And I've, you know, you want, you talk about like,

Speaker 2 you know, you on the Dana Carvey show, obviously, helping Carell and

Speaker 2 Colbert and all those and Louis and stuff. Phil cotton.
Yeah. Yeah.
Shane used to be my opener.

Speaker 2 I saw Shane in Pennsylvania and I was like in Philly and I was like, just come on the road with me. And then me and a couple other friends got him to move up to New York.

Speaker 2 And so that's why it's awesome now that I'm going to open for him at an arena. And you're like, well, it looks like this investment paid off.

Speaker 1 Well, let's try to get a tour together where you do headline. It's called Secret Headliner and Pete Davidson and Shane open.

Speaker 2 You know know who also tim dylan used to feature for me and uh nick mullen yeah nick mullen

Speaker 2 by the way i remember a show where tim dylan buried me so bad that halfway through my set i was like uh in my head you have that comic thought where you go should i ask them if they want me to bring tim back out because it was like oh he's too good yeah he just it was at um the vermont comedy club in burlington on like a show and tim just murdered for like 25 minutes and then i went out there and I was like, Well,

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 2 that's hard to do. That's a fucking

Speaker 2 am I gonna do? But Shane was like that. Shane would kill, and you'd just be like, Ah,

Speaker 2 you know, don't get a go opener that's that good. Guys, just get kind of a nice, sweet opener that doesn't do anything like you're kind of mellow.

Speaker 2 I mean, but this was like, you know, I was throwing that, like, you need to be the best you can be. You're absolutely, you both are absolutely right.

Speaker 2 Get a guy that's good, but not going to fucking make you go crazy, yeah, or or um a woman somebody just different um

Speaker 1 so you self-produced right you did a comedy central special and then a netflix you did 30 minute the stand-ups and then you've which i think is cool people are doing it and shane did it on youtube right that's called on the road did i yeah that was recent so i did a hbo i did an hbo hour in 2019 which was like I think I feel lucky.

Speaker 2 I think I was one of the last people to do a real HBO special. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like an actual on HBO. It like debuted full hour.

Speaker 2 It was the best experience of my life, you know, especially talking about your guys' HBO specials. Dana, I got to perform at Palace of the Fine Arts last month.

Speaker 2 I headlined, and I kept thinking about it.

Speaker 2 A thousand seats. Yeah.
As a Niner fan, you know, because my dad's from the bay, I just kept wanting to go fucking 49ers.

Speaker 2 You say that and they go crazy.

Speaker 2 But I did the HBO special and then HBO,

Speaker 2 you know, I think kind of fell off. And Netflix, I have a good relationship with, but I was just on the road so much.
My agent was like, you should just record your hour right now.

Speaker 2 Cause I didn't have any plans to. And we, I think that's what the difference of the business is now.
Now you can just take a guy that can give you a four-camera shoot. You can do it

Speaker 2 on the fly and just put it on YouTube. And it got, you know, I think we're at like.
close to 3 million. Yeah.
3 million.

Speaker 2 It was just like a thing where it was like, this is exactly what I needed at this time of my career i i was jokingly calling it like a mixtape like just putting out a mixtape and being like it is here's what i'm yeah here's what i'm doing on the road right now come and see me on the road and it really helped you know i'm about to um about to kick off a theater tour the golden retriever of comedy tour um

Speaker 2 it's my first theater tour and i'm like excited and i think the youtube special really helped that you know so you've made the leap to theaters yeah i'm making the leap in the fall i'm still doing clubs through the summer but then i'm i'm i've done a couple of theaters,

Speaker 2 you know, in certain cities like in San Francisco and San Diego at the Balboa. And it was like,

Speaker 2 you know, I think it's a slow roll. I'm not, you know, I'm friends with Nate and Shane and Tim.
And I see these guys go from being like, I did a funny bone, then I'm doing Taj Mahal. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And it's like, I'm like very slow and steady, very slow.

Speaker 1 Well, it is just, it's adding up now, all the specials and all the podcasts.

Speaker 2 You catch us up. You're on on a lot of podcasts.

Speaker 3 You can give you a good review and then you go back to city. It's the same thing.
Just building, building, building.

Speaker 2 Yeah, exactly. It's just the slow route is

Speaker 2 very slow. Yeah, no, this will catch you.
Well, you're still,

Speaker 1 you're brand new. Trust me.
You got a long way to go. You know, I mean, Louis, a lot of people, Sebastian was around early 40s when they really took off.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's, you know, I say this. I said this to my manager and they're like, oh, Jesus.
But it is the truth.

Speaker 2 White dudes hit their superpowers in stand-up in their 40s because stuff starts hurting and you stop caring less about being cool. And I think there's this kind of thing of like, you're comfortable.

Speaker 2 Like, I feel more comfortable doing stand-up than I've ever felt.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you want to have that

Speaker 1 next level of confidence. Like, you know, get out of my way.

Speaker 1 It ain't ever. Wait till they get a load.

Speaker 2 Wait till they get a load of damage. Wait till they get a load of damn.
Yeah.

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Speaker 1 just real quickly because i've we've never had anyone do these on this show just a quick chappelle and a quick quick cat williams oh

Speaker 2 cat williams is cat williams is reactionary i don't even think it's that good but you just go high with it it's just i don't i can't even and i love cat williams so much and hearing you do it makes me happy

Speaker 2 the funniest that he said on shannon sharp that no one talks about is when he goes chris tucker used to hang out with michael jackson Michael Jackson used to call him Christmas.

Speaker 2 And he goes, Would you ever let another man call you Christmas?

Speaker 2 Shannon Sharp goes, No, I wouldn't. No, no, I do not believe I would.

Speaker 2 I ain't gonna say that, but Mike Chappelle, my Chappelle is uh, Chappelle's my favorite comedian of all time. Like, I uh, I've like probably paid to see him live before I started doing stand-up.

Speaker 2 I would like like a deadhead, I would follow him around. And

Speaker 2 then COVID hit. This is the reason.
This is what I talk about on stage. But when COVID hit, they shut down all the comedy clubs in New York.
We couldn't go inside. That was like the big thing.

Speaker 2 And then the stand was like, we're doing inside comedy.

Speaker 2 We're going to do some inside shows. And every comic in New York was like fighting to be like, please let me go inside.
I want to do a regular set.

Speaker 2 And the day of the show,

Speaker 2 I get a text from Patrick the Booker, and he goes, hey, the next three nights are canceled. Chappelle is just going to do shows.
And so then I walk into the stand one night, bitter,

Speaker 2 sure. Bitter.
Angry. Angry.
I want to go inside. And then I'm watching Dave, my favorite comic of all time, just do a five-hour set where he was just staring at his cigarette.

Speaker 2 And so I started making fun of it.

Speaker 2 He's just talking about like white people sports.

Speaker 2 You know, he's like, a lot of people don't know this, but Mark Messier was drafted by the Edmonton Oilers and he played with Wayne Gretzky, but no one gave Mark Messier the credit for it.

Speaker 2 He's like, oh, man. Or I would also do like...

Speaker 2 A lot of people don't know this, but the black man made up a lot of long games for white people.

Speaker 2 Croquet was invented by a black man named Jamal Croquet. And he never got to play his game.
That's all I was looking for.

Speaker 1 A lot of people don't know this is a very

Speaker 2 got to play his game. And you just stare at your cigarette.

Speaker 1 Wow, that's really good.

Speaker 2 He does have a lot of people.

Speaker 3 He doesn't take 12 minutes to light the cigarette.

Speaker 2 Everyone's just going, what's going on? And then he lights it and he goes, I don't know if you guys ever saw the show Punky Brewster, but she lived with a man that was three times her age.

Speaker 2 That man was a pedophile.

Speaker 2 I

Speaker 2 I said, Punky, that man is a pedophile.

Speaker 2 God, that's great.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. That is one of the best impressions I've heard in a long time.

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 1 when he did the comedy store, he kind of did a quick, quick end run.

Speaker 1 I was the first time I felt the confidence went to this whole other level, and it was like 15 minutes of no, not any, and the audience was almost afraid of him. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It was such a level of calm and confidence. And then those kind of rhythms it's just it's just so

Speaker 2 i got to watch him at the cellar you know uh before he did radio city in fact it was me schultz joe list and mark norman all sat at a table and watched chappelle do like two hours and his improv is just funnier than anything i could ever write there was a guy there was a guy in the front row and chappelle was smoking and he goes uh he goes where uh where are you coming in from man and the guy went um

Speaker 2 the guy went where do they cane people? Is that Singapore? Yeah, it's Singapore. He goes, I'm coming in from Singapore.
He goes, oh, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 When you landed, did you take all the gum and go, I'm going to eat all the gum right now? And he did this like chewing motion. And I think it just made me laugh so hard.
He's just so quick and funny.

Speaker 2 He's just the best. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Who's the second best? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. You go, and who would round out your top five?

Speaker 2 Well, it's funny because, I mean, Spade, your let's let's go to the clip thing is like one of my favorite bits.

Speaker 2 I just did it to you.

Speaker 2 I know. That's why that wasn't a fake.
That was, you really got me. My fiance and I, that's one of our favorite bits is just go, just to break the tension and go, let's go to the clip.
This is so.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And I'll tell you,

Speaker 2 Spade, you got, for me, you made me laugh the hardest on SNL 50. when they were doing the Milani thing.
And then they go, and Pete goes, and then Milane goes, where's Spade?

Speaker 2 is just doing the thing and you go yeah i got the beat that made me laugh

Speaker 1 i know every all the writers said the same thing because i talked to the producer about david's little moment yeah and everybody who's kind of in comedy it said so much yeah because the the the broadway show thing was so energetic and what was the exact thing you said though what was it i got a feel for it

Speaker 3 that's the name of your special i just named my special that because it was the day i got home and i go hey i already, that's funny.

Speaker 2 I'll just call it that. I got a feel for it.
It was just perfectly spayed. The way you were talking to someone else.
And you went, yeah, I got a feel for it. It made me laugh.

Speaker 3 Because it was like a 12-minute Broadway show. It was like, this is more about the singing anyway.

Speaker 2 I'm glad this podcast didn't turn into me complimenting you two because that almost is what it became because I'm such a massive fan.

Speaker 2 Like, Dana, I don't think you understand you saying I do a good Chappelle. That's like, that's going to fuel me for years to come.

Speaker 3 It's unreal.

Speaker 3 I'll add to that.

Speaker 1 That's unreal. Well, because because it's not just the rhythm, it's also some texture in the tone of the voice.
And then it's the phrasing. So the three things are sort of perfect.

Speaker 1 So it's like, don't anyone else try to do Chappelle if anyone wants to try. Just that's been kind of checked off.

Speaker 2 That's but your Biden was something that I thought

Speaker 2 I, I mean, I'm not getting around here.

Speaker 2 I was so mad. I was so mad they put you in late for that.
I was so mad that I felt like the last, you know, 2020 to 2025 should have been you as Biden.

Speaker 2 I don't know if you wanted to do that, but like when I saw you do it, I was like mad that it hadn't happened

Speaker 1 before. It was, they'd asked me before, but I felt like I'd done it on Colbert just real quickly.

Speaker 1 And I felt like the audience in New York wasn't ready for it because of thinking it would make Trump happy.

Speaker 1 So, but the, but when he whispered and yelled is when it became a three-dimensional.

Speaker 2 I write the bill. because I ride bills.

Speaker 1 I can ride bills faster than he's ever better

Speaker 1 be on. Then I knew I had an energetic impression, but I was happy to land it when I did.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it was perfect. It was perfect.
And two fan questions that I'm going to kill myself because I don't know if I'll ever see you guys again after that. You can take the hit.

Speaker 2 David, hey, that was my first question.

Speaker 2 Did your dad get mad about those jokes on Take the Hit?

Speaker 3 My real dad, Pee-Wee,

Speaker 3 he had no say in it.

Speaker 2 I know, but I didn't.

Speaker 3 I say that I have to get he goes,

Speaker 3 he didn't love it. You know, there was one I did about my stepdad.

Speaker 2 15-inch cup and 15-inch.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah, 16.

Speaker 2 15-inch.

Speaker 2 Nate and I would laugh at that on the road for fucking hours.

Speaker 2 And I always wanted, because I've done jokes about my mom, and I've always wondered if your dad was like, hey, that's not, that's not how that happened.

Speaker 3 No, he at that point,

Speaker 3 I was sort of helping him out. I'm like, listen, there's a few jokes about you.
Don't worry about it.

Speaker 3 He's by no means any dad of the year. So I said, I have to get something out of this.
And then my stepdad shockingly didn't like one when I said about my mom

Speaker 3 when I was saying,

Speaker 3 oh, I don't know what it was, but it was something sort of dirty. And I was like, you're right, because you don't really think of that.

Speaker 3 You're just trying to think what's the funniest thing you can think of. Yeah.
And someone steps in and says, I can't, I don't, I can't hear that anymore.

Speaker 3 And I was like, oh shit, I didn't even, I just thought you'd be so excited that you were in a joke.

Speaker 2 I had an ex-girlfriend whose parents were from the Bronx. And we were, I was at their house having dinner one night.
And I was trying to, I was telling her your joke, the Brad Pitt joke,

Speaker 2 where you go, where you're doing your grandma. And you go, where's my little David? Where is, who's that kid? I want to fuck that kid.
I'd fuck that dude. You know him?

Speaker 2 Why don't you drag him around the house? I'm like, mom. You go, I need to teach him a couple of lessons.

Speaker 2 Fucking gnawing his balls.

Speaker 2 I remember my ex-girlfriend's mom just, I love that joke, obviously. And she goes, that's not funny.

Speaker 2 And it's not, you know, she goes, you don't, you don't talk about, you don't talk about someone's grandmother like that. And I go, I go, it was about his grandmother.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's my fictitious grandma and my lie of a joke.

Speaker 2 Everyone's like, I still see things that go, David Spade went to school with Brad Pitt. I go, I did.

Speaker 3 I go, oh, and that joke.

Speaker 2 So funny.

Speaker 2 Fictitious lie of a joke that I did.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I mean, my, but I remember Brad Pitt, when I saw him right after that, he goes, oh, where's grandma?

Speaker 2 I go, what do you mean? I go, oh, right. I just did that joke.

Speaker 3 Again, it's like, I don't even know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 Oh, fuck. That makes that makes me funny.

Speaker 1 It's just a classic term.

Speaker 2 Yeah. It's just such a funny David.

Speaker 2 Oh, that kid. I want to fuck that kid.
Oh, good change up. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 But, and then Dana, the question that I've wanted to know

Speaker 2 since 1994.

Speaker 2 That's an hour ago. Why? Why did you guys take the Ross Perot stuff in Critics' Choice and put it during the credits because

Speaker 2 it was so funny.

Speaker 2 It was Ross Perot talking about movies where he goes, if you pay $5.99 to see a retard on a bench, you're a retard. Get on a bench.
And then you did Water World. This man drinks his own urine.

Speaker 2 Yummy, yummy. And it was all during the credits of your special.
For Critics' Choice, I, you know, I forgot about that.

Speaker 1 I don't know why.

Speaker 3 I don't know why. Did you do it in character? Did you have the makeup makeup and stuff?

Speaker 1 I was just doing them. Can I finish one time?

Speaker 1 Can I come in on the one? Can I come in on the one?

Speaker 2 You're not listening. Can I finish one time? Can I finish one time?

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was what a gift to have a guy like that walk onto the scene.

Speaker 2 That was unbelievable. No, I love that.
It was that, and I always quote your,

Speaker 2 I feel a temper tantrum coming on. When you do the autopilot,

Speaker 1 yeah, a two-year-old is like a hundred-year-old man with beads, you know.

Speaker 2 Maybe you think you're going all dressed fancy. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Now buy me a toy. That's not megator.
That's mega tea. You can tell because the index fingers crook slightly different.
Megatour, mega tea. Now buy me a toy.
Or I think I feel a tantrum coming off.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And the one where you go, sit your ass down. We're watching Pooh Bear.
And then you shuffle away and come back and you go, it's a good one, too. Piglet gets lost.

Speaker 2 Well, you're my new best friend

Speaker 1 because I know people who appreciate the weirdest, driest throwaway lines are like, you know, frequency.

Speaker 2 You're like, I love this.

Speaker 1 So I get it. You don't really, you hope people notice the weird, dry throwaway lines, but when they do, it's very sad stuff.

Speaker 2 I would probably say both of your guys is the thing that makes me love both of your guys' comedy so much is that it's the texture. It's like the layers.

Speaker 2 It's like, you know, I think like Spade, everything I've ever watched of yours, it's, there's all this, this like duality of like top asshole and then this underlying belief. And I love that.

Speaker 2 I love watching like a guy that's a smart asshole and you're like in a fun way, in a way that like, man, sometimes, dude, I know you'll never remember this, David, but there was a comedy musical in New York City called

Speaker 2 Ha.

Speaker 2 And Kevin Farley was in it with like a bunch of stand-up comedians. And one of my friends was in it.
And he was, he got me and my roommate, who's a comic, to go see him. Big Jay Okerson was in it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.
And he was like, hey, you guys should come see it. We're doing this thing with Kevin Farley and a couple of other comics.

Speaker 2 And so we go to the matinee on the Upper West Side because it's in the afternoon. And me and my roommate sit down and you and Davatell sit behind us.

Speaker 2 And it was one of the greatest experiences of my life because you were in like full spade mode.

Speaker 3 Oh, no. Was I commenting on it?

Speaker 2 But so quietly, but to the point that me and Vecchion were fucking dying. And then you got, you were doing it, and it encouraged Attell to do it.

Speaker 2 So it like ramped up because there was a part where you're like,

Speaker 2 they're like breaking down stand-up comedy, and they go, and now here comes the tough female chick, and you just hear Spade go,

Speaker 2 and it made me laugh. And then Kevin Kevin Farley was doing a thing where he goes, and then a heroin-addicted Jew named Lenny Bruce shows up and Attel goes, easy.

Speaker 2 And it was like, dude, it was the, we walked out and I was like, that was like one of the best afternoons of my life. I got to watch that.

Speaker 3 I do remember that now because that was, I think, his wife was directing that player.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 His wife, Michelle, was directing that. And so it was so fun.

Speaker 3 I love that you saw that thing. Good job.
We should have hung out then.

Speaker 2 Yeah, well, dude, hearing you and Attel talk about it. All right.

Speaker 1 Go out and see uh dan soda on the road on the road playing theaters i think uh we'll have you back when you make the leap when you make the leap to your first

Speaker 2 arena yeah just come back it's so funny i'm just gonna be outside your guys's house going guys it didn't happen but i i can still do guys remember chappelle what if dave chappelle came inside

Speaker 2 i'm playing a shed i'm playing a shed at boston you they got a shed they got a good shed they're serving soda out the back of it So just let me in. Can you just please let me in?

Speaker 2 It's so cold out here, guys.

Speaker 3 All right, Dan. We'll talk soon, buddy.

Speaker 1 Pleasure hanging out with you and hopefully see you around. See you guys.

Speaker 2 Thanks so much.

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Speaker 3 Fly on the Wall is executive and produced by Dana Carvey and David Spade, Jenna Weiss-Berman of Odyssey, and Heather Santoro. The show's lead producer is Greg Holtzman.