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Speaker 3 You look great. You look wonderful.

Speaker 1 Thank you. They pulled me from hair and makeup.
They pulled me.

Speaker 3 I love an authentic Spade is my favorite spade.

Speaker 1 Yeah, look at me.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's awesome.

Speaker 1 It's a little sharp. Sharp.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Sharp, good?

Speaker 3 No, there's texture.

Speaker 3 There's contrast.

Speaker 1 Taryn looks the best. Dana looks like a best because it's bright.

Speaker 1 Do you have the blur background, Taryn?

Speaker 3 No, it's a good camera, but I do have the touch-up filter on.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you're 26, so I don't know.

Speaker 2 If we could videotape this, I mean, your new nickname is high school senior.

Speaker 1 Shave the beard

Speaker 1 and go out. Just go out.

Speaker 3 Yeah, the beard is fake, so I can get booze.

Speaker 1 He was a sandbox man that went back to high school.

Speaker 2 He had a beard when he was 13.

Speaker 3 Invest in Apple. Trust me.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Damn, that's too close to home. I was told to do that in 2003, and I told the guy to fuck off.

Speaker 1 I said, take your Apple stock ideas. It will never work.

Speaker 3 you're the dana you're the anti-forest gum yeah

Speaker 1 you go back and get bad advice what is that obvious now you know what's what's the well we can't tell right now because everything's just like

Speaker 3 it's gonna exactly it's gonna be a tech that that i don't even understand i i got all my money in female space missions okay you're doing very well

Speaker 1 one for one

Speaker 1 yeah

Speaker 2 oh that's right well we'll we can talk about that if you want but

Speaker 3 i I just went straight into the divine feminine, just all divine feminine. That's the future.
No, I'd go to space. I'd go to space.
Wouldn't you go to space? Sure.

Speaker 3 It's seemingly like the uproar is like how they talked about going to space.

Speaker 1 Like

Speaker 3 they weren't acknowledging of the jet fuel enough, but I'd go to space.

Speaker 2 Well, the tension is that any rocket could blow up any second in the 10 years.

Speaker 1 I guess that would make me nervous.

Speaker 2 And that's the, you know, oh, oh, sorry. It was a fuse.
We didn't trade it out.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 3 so if we lost Gail that way, I'd never forgive us.

Speaker 1 You'd never.

Speaker 2 Can you imagine if Oprah just went full Oprah, if that thing exploded and she started beating the shit out of Bezos?

Speaker 3 That's her like John Wick movie. She becomes a one Oprah army.

Speaker 1 Try to pull her off.

Speaker 3 Anybody who drives a cyber truck suddenly ends up dead.

Speaker 2 You want some of this, Oprah? But anyway, I like the Jeff Bezos. Everything in his whole ecosystem looks like a dick, like the spaceship does, the swoop on Amazon does.

Speaker 1 His head. His actual head.

Speaker 3 His own head. Sorry.
I don't.

Speaker 1 His weakness

Speaker 1 doesn't.

Speaker 3 It isn't. No,

Speaker 3 it's more square.

Speaker 3 It's more chode-like.

Speaker 2 They're rich and famous.

Speaker 2 They fund this shit on them.

Speaker 1 They're fine.

Speaker 2 They're fine, man. But seriously, would you go on the rocket?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Because we could do an SNL alumni rocket.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 That's what we say.

Speaker 1 All right, troops.

Speaker 2 Fred Armison, you'll be in the blue chair.

Speaker 1 Yeah, who's your dream cast?

Speaker 3 Like, no, who's your dream SNL astronaut?

Speaker 1 Yeah, who's your dream rocket cast? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 Actually, I would cast you as an astronaut.

Speaker 1 I'll take it. Because

Speaker 2 you could act and you could play it, and you could play that kind of whatever you call that astronaut vibe.

Speaker 3 I'll take it. Dana, I didn't know this was going to be an hour of my heroes complimenting me, but I will.

Speaker 1 Well, it kind of is faster.

Speaker 2 It is. Well, we just, yeah, you can run, but you cannot hide.

Speaker 1 Sorry, Ten, Killium.

Speaker 1 We're about to put it in. You could use your Bland Bachelor sort of character to go up in his face to be the everyman.
Exactly. I just watched Bland Bachelor.
What was it called?

Speaker 3 Selena Gomez. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I remember that.

Speaker 3 How often does it happen where people bring up sketches that you have no memory of?

Speaker 2 It's never not happened.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's It's funny because I said there's, I will remember everything I did on SNL.

Speaker 1 And I wasn't like super sketch guy. So I was in like one or two a show and I still cannot remember half of them.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 I remember my first week very well and Seth being at the table talking about seeing an episode on BH1 or whatever. And he's like, it turned it on and Amy Puller was in it.

Speaker 3 And I was like, oh, I must have been changing backstage. I don't remember this sketch.
And he walked. on to the screen.
He was in the sketch.

Speaker 3 And I remember thinking to myself, that'll never happen to me. There's no way I will remember every second of this.

Speaker 2 Well, 127 shows is the main metric that I read. So, probably, because you were ubiquitous on the show, 400 sketches?

Speaker 3 Yeah,

Speaker 1 probably maybe 500.

Speaker 3 Half of those high school astronauts.

Speaker 1 The high school astronaut. That's a addendum.

Speaker 2 I have some film ideas for this dude before we get done, but let's go through his

Speaker 3 transition to do a pitch meeting.

Speaker 1 I was at the Good Nights. I saw a clip the other day, and

Speaker 1 it was when Nirvana was on either, I don't know which time, but I guess Kirk Cobain had purple hair, and he turned around and started making out with Chris Novosek or Dave Grohl.

Speaker 1 And it was a big story. And you pull back, and I'm standing right there, you know, in the back, waiting to hug someone or get it over with, not really watching them kiss.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, I do not remember being on the good nights, and I do not remember seeing them kiss.

Speaker 1 And that was scary because that was actually something that happened instead of just being in the background of a sketch or something. So I realize it does happen.

Speaker 1 It's very real what we're talking about.

Speaker 2 It is. We're getting deep, heavy, and real, but I um

Speaker 1 deep, heavy, and real. Dana's new special.
Deep, heavy, and real.

Speaker 2 No, I know someone says that. You know, when you hug people on the good nights, it's kind of interesting.

Speaker 2 There's a traditional amount of hugging and hugging pressure, and then there's more pressure and longer. And you're like, geez, I didn't know you felt this way about me.
It's like Heidi Gardner.

Speaker 3 It's fascinating to like.

Speaker 1 Heidi Gardner.

Speaker 3 She feels that way about everybody. She's a love.

Speaker 1 She's a love. She's adorable.

Speaker 3 It's fascinating how people project onto the good nights.

Speaker 3 The only thing I would do is that when the beat would drop in the drums, I would like jump into the air and people caught onto that. But that was like a fun tradition.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's cool. But otherwise, it's...

Speaker 3 Yeah, it was nice.

Speaker 3 And not always on camera. So sometimes you just see a shoulder hopping into frame or whatever.

Speaker 3 But it's so funny how people read into the, like, oh, look, they didn't hug.

Speaker 1 They're angry. Yeah, they skip.
The host walks right by you and hugs someone next to you. Oof.
On camera. Burn.

Speaker 3 Burn. Shame.

Speaker 2 So you would go to the back and then snake your way toward the lens or would you snake?

Speaker 3 It depends. I wish, I wish, like, a regret is I wish I'd stayed in costume more because those are my favorite good nights to see.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 Especially when the 10 to 1 got cut and you're just like, oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 why you're why is there some like robot clown on

Speaker 1 holding a hot dog and it doesn't make what did that what was that gonna be just like a llama the best part is yeah when you're instilling your costume you're like barely made it to good nights yeah

Speaker 3 i i do i love it um yeah but in terms of like any who hugged me who didn't like so much of i i'm just speaking for myself like i'm in my own head about my week like i literally don't care about anybody else Who did you hug the most?

Speaker 1 Was it the host?

Speaker 3 That's a good question.

Speaker 1 That's Kristen Williams.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, Kristen and I overlap.

Speaker 3 Kristen and I knew each other before the show, too, so she was always very kind to me.

Speaker 1 Groundlings.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Big G.

Speaker 1 You're the coolest.

Speaker 2 The Groundlings are the coolest because they just come in loaded. They've already done sketch concepts.

Speaker 1 That's nice.

Speaker 2 We're stand-ups. We're playing greasy spoons and shitboxes.

Speaker 1 It's literally cheating when you go to read through the first day and I go, this guy will suck. And then they got a fucking perfectly buffed out Groundlings.
Like a perfect sketch.

Speaker 2 You can take it from Groundlings and put it on 8H and old Jed's a millionaire.

Speaker 3 It is the best training in terms of like the structure. There is no other comedy platform.

Speaker 3 Second City is pretty close and similar, but Groundlings, especially the Sunday Company, is like. New show every Sunday, pitching ideas.

Speaker 3 But I love, I love what Chris Rock says about it and that like stand-up people come in and they know how to write jokes. That is the difference.

Speaker 3 That's the difference is that like the joke, that was something I structured, I struggled with.

Speaker 3 Brownlings are character-based, so it's behavioral comedy, right? Like to pare it down.

Speaker 3 And the stand-ups, I was always so envious and covetous of just knowing how to write a lot of people.

Speaker 3 How to get laughs.

Speaker 1 How to get laughs.

Speaker 3 That's helpful.

Speaker 1 I don't know how to write jokes.

Speaker 2 Spade's a great joke writer, monologue writer, but he's telling a story, and then he has all these laugh points, you call them.

Speaker 1 But yeah, little tiny tent poles trying to

Speaker 1 sketches are tougher.

Speaker 2 Go ahead. Well,

Speaker 2 what you lean in on is what I still find my favorite, where it's like, I did see one. I went through because that's the cool thing.
YouTube, best of Taryn, you know.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 2 I will go into a lot of them, but the one with Justin Bieber, where he says, Gleis, and you're totally carrying this sketch with attitude of the asshole brother who's really fucking with the date of his sister aggressively

Speaker 2 and played all the beats and committed so hard that it was just so much fun to watch.

Speaker 3 Oh, thanks, man. Yeah, that was a groundling sketch for sure.

Speaker 1 Oh, it was.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And tell me about it because I didn't see it.
Just explain it.

Speaker 2 Do a little bit of the attitude so he would know. Yes.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 the premise is that Nassim brings home a boyfriend from college, Justin Bieber, and he has to meet her older,

Speaker 3 like way past his prime, still living at home brother, who like tries to act intimidating, but is pretty pathetic. And Justin's first line is like, It's Gleis to meet you.

Speaker 3 Sorry, it's nice to meet you. I meant to say, I'm glad to meet you.
And it's nice, but I said Gleis.

Speaker 1 And then my guy's like, Glice, what the hell is Gleis? He sounds so stupid.

Speaker 3 And then throughout the sketch, all these details about my life come back to me.

Speaker 1 It always comes back to Gleis.

Speaker 1 And then he can't let go of it.

Speaker 3 he can't let go of the one thing he has against this beautiful, charming young man who's come home.

Speaker 2 Of a jerk and the rhythm. And there it's like a joke in a way that you're going to Glise and all that.
And then you kind of break it down again. Oh, no, I'll get me wrong, man.
You're cool, brother.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 3 And then you, there's like a big laugh in it that was just me saying, remember? Yeah. Like I say, Glice, and I say, remember, and it had happened 30 seconds ago.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 He seems pretty cool, though. Was he fun that way?

Speaker 3 He was, yeah, he was young.

Speaker 1 He was young, and he was, he he's entering a faith but i had i had experiences with him

Speaker 1 that's he's

Speaker 3 he's yeah he's it was it was like uh i feel like it was pre-roast

Speaker 3 post um you know post bilieber documentary right um but yeah but but but you know it it's so interesting like the currency in snl where i'm so desperate for laughs speaking of laughs but in many ways it's better to get like a whoop like a ah to get like the girls screaming.

Speaker 3 You know, that was like a big, big part of like Timberlakes currency and stuff is like they're not necessarily howling or side-splitting, but they're just like when they would scream for justice,

Speaker 3 like, yeah, exactly. Some of it's for me, trust me.

Speaker 1 Some of it's for me. It's a kind of a split crowd.

Speaker 3 I won't point to which ones because I'm humble, but part of this is for me for sure.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 All right. Well, did you and B.

Speaker 1 Hi, guys. No, no, I just don't.

Speaker 3 Oh, oh, sorry.

Speaker 1 I got all these this.

Speaker 1 We've even been on a commercial for the last 12 minutes.

Speaker 2 We're going to record.

Speaker 1 We're going to start recording.

Speaker 2 This is called our warm-up.

Speaker 1 No, you should have talked to Bieber about what it's like. You understand the quick fame.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Let me like...
I'm going to sketch about him. I'm like, man, I've been there, dude.
I just want to give you some advice. Yeah.

Speaker 3 I mean, I started on the show a little bit older.

Speaker 3 Like, I was 28 when I started, which is pretty much, I know that Pete and he, Pete Davidson and Bieber connected and were like, we're friendly for a while.

Speaker 3 But I was already a dad when I started on the show. So I wasn't very good at like the hang, the post-hours hang.

Speaker 1 Weird. Yeah, weird, man.

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Speaker 2 so who did you overlap like you went in in 2010 so hayter was still there yeah and

Speaker 2 sedacis

Speaker 3 Yep, yeah.

Speaker 2 So when did they leave?

Speaker 3 I was there for two seasons with Wig and Samberg, and then they left after my second season. And then Bill, Jason, and Fred stayed one more season.

Speaker 3 And then I left.

Speaker 1 Is that how long ago? Kristen Wigg, was it 212, you're saying? 2012? Yeah. That wasn't she left.
Yeah. Yeah.
Shit. Hey, time flies, man.
I mean, my God, I left in 1888. So I guess it's all relative.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 I can see the musket on your wall.

Speaker 1 Right after the Constitution came out, we had one bit of a debate about that. And then I split.

Speaker 3 split so and live from new york it's saturday night

Speaker 1 reload i like when people quit the show for like they got a commercial and they're like i'm out i hit the big time and you're like well that's it i'm done now they do commercials of sketches while you're watching the show and i'm only answering

Speaker 2 the californian sketch i go right we will we had to kevin nealon and i were forced to turn down a nike campaign just do it in 1988 with the tones

Speaker 2 It was going to be Jazz Do It.

Speaker 1 So now they're like doing that. I mean, I'm so

Speaker 2 jealous, but I'm happy.

Speaker 3 Can you ask them again? Can you hit up Phil Knight and be like, hey, hey, man, we're still pissed.

Speaker 1 Still funny.

Speaker 3 Yeah, let me tell you. We still have the sweatshirts.

Speaker 1 They still fit.

Speaker 2 Hey, man, those guys are evergreen. I wanted to go on the 50th before I got the flu as Hans and Franz.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 3 I would just, it would have been awesome.

Speaker 1 You were so missed.

Speaker 3 You were so missed.

Speaker 2 But thank you, Taryn.

Speaker 3 No, dude. I mean, you are a legend.

Speaker 1 And yeah, so it was felt.

Speaker 3 It was felt.

Speaker 1 It certainly was.

Speaker 2 Did I host the show when you were there and you did a Harrison Ford at read-through, which kind of impressed me?

Speaker 1 The attempt.

Speaker 2 I go,

Speaker 2 who is this kid?

Speaker 3 We got it on. We got it on.

Speaker 3 You did host and I got to be in a church lady, which was a highlight for me. And as Ted Cruz, less of a highlight for me.

Speaker 3 But but then I got Harrison Ford on and I'm such, I'm a really big Star Wars nerd. JJ Abrams reached out and he was editing the first new Star Wars, like the one that they brought back.

Speaker 3 And he said, hey, will you do me a favor? I need a line of dialogue off camera from Harrison.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 3 And I can't get him for two months. So we just want it for the real so that doesn't take you out of it.
It's like a special effects thing. Will you do it?

Speaker 1 So I got to report.

Speaker 1 You take care of Chewy. You get to the Falcon.
And, like, you got it. That's great.

Speaker 3 And he used, he said, he used it up to literally the final mix.

Speaker 1 So that was cool. And Harrison went, who the fuck is this? Who the fuck is this?

Speaker 3 My house.

Speaker 1 Get out of some ports. Get out of my house.

Speaker 3 He's the coolest man. He's the freaking, he is the movie star.

Speaker 1 He goes, get off my plane. Then he goes, get out of my ship.
Then he goes, leave my coffee shop.

Speaker 1 Give me back my work. Stop sharing sharing my parachute don't even share my password stop being a working girl

Speaker 1 that was a good one

Speaker 1 oh i you are a whore and milk money yeah yeah why stop being such a witness can i get a witness and of course the the iconic trailer chewy get me out of here

Speaker 1 Chewy, take care of Chewy. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Chewy, your fleas are getting on me.

Speaker 3 But you were great, Danny. You were were a great host.
And Spade, you've always been so, so kind to me. Thank you.

Speaker 3 First time we met was like the day that the Sandman, and I haven't earned saying that, but I like to say it because that's what everybody calls him.

Speaker 1 I love that.

Speaker 3 On Grown Ups 2, we came out for a day.

Speaker 1 Oh, with a car wash?

Speaker 3 The car wash scene.

Speaker 1 That was one of the best scenes.

Speaker 3 That was such a fun day, and you were so nice to all of us. And Schneider was sitting that one out.
You were sort of filling us in on why.

Speaker 1 Oh, he was sitting Grown Ups 2 out.

Speaker 3 He sat that one out. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 3 And then, and then, I don't know if you remember this, David, but at the 40th, you were in the end of the Californian schedule and Cecily did the Baby's.

Speaker 3 And it was Saturday rehearsal, and you and I got to talking. And you and I walked up to like the rainbow room to the party together.
And you were telling me like.

Speaker 3 beat for beat, the Eddie Murphy exchange.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, did I?

Speaker 3 And you're telling me that. And you're like, yeah, and I, you know, it was stressful.
And, and, and we're sitting at top of the rock. I don't know if you remember this, but I, I couldn't believe it.

Speaker 3 It was like, we live in a scenario. Uh, we live in a,

Speaker 3 like we live in, in, in a, like a, a, a matrix like made up.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Um,

Speaker 3 you're telling me the story. You're telling me basically the end of the story.

Speaker 1 Like Eddie came and then he walks in with Brett Ratner. Yeah.

Speaker 3 He walks in over your shoulder and made a B line for you and shook your hand and you were so gracious to each other.

Speaker 3 And it was such a cool moment that like clearly you made peace, and it was all good. But I couldn't believe it.
I was like, I'm watching

Speaker 3 the made-for-TV movie.

Speaker 1 I love it. Simulation selling it too.
And he was nice again. So, yeah.
I'm sure he's annoyed by that story. It's so dumb, but

Speaker 1 it's kind of a good little juicy one.

Speaker 1 Even though it's too far back. Is it done now?

Speaker 2 Is it really done?

Speaker 1 Or is it still done? 100% done.

Speaker 2 It still came up like a few months ago.

Speaker 1 Don't be surprised if you see the two of us in a spaceship going somewhere. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 flying in the rocket together

Speaker 3 it was so cool in that moment like at the 40th like he like you were the first person he walked up to and shook your hand he was so cool and it felt good and it was like oh brett ratner's here too

Speaker 1 you got excited about brett rattle not quite as excited but you know tell me everything about rush hour oh yeah rush hour

Speaker 2 god he had it made rush hour rush hour has got back in

Speaker 1 chris tucker does stand up i just saw chris tucker was going to be at like yamava or something in palm springs Springs. I'm like,

Speaker 1 I would love to watch Chris Tucker do stand-up. I don't even know what his stand-up is like.

Speaker 2 Let's have him on this podcast because he is interested in that.

Speaker 1 I would love to see that.

Speaker 2 He did three Jackie Chan movies, 20 million each for the last two. And then he's been a little mysterious in his own lane.
But then he came out recently and is doing something.

Speaker 1 Kind of an interesting move to turn down 20 million for something for literally anything.

Speaker 1 And then

Speaker 1 my OnlyFans, when it hit 20, I thought I'd stop, but I'm a dick.

Speaker 3 Now you just do it for the passion.

Speaker 1 No, I just do it. Oh, you know who's on? Amanda Bynes.
You know Amanda Bynes?

Speaker 3 I was on the Amanda show back.

Speaker 1 I know that was a trick question.

Speaker 1 I'm only telling you this because

Speaker 1 she announced it yesterday, but she said, which is smart up front, it's not going to be sleazy. stuff.
Sure.

Speaker 1 It'll be my day and stuff like that, which is still interesting because she's very interesting, but it's 50.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I i did a little stutter step yeah

Speaker 1 is that a lot or i don't know only fan i would say that seems high

Speaker 1 now you wonder why they're all making 20 million dollars i don't know how yeah but it must be a volume thing but uh oh yeah amanda uh

Speaker 1 who uh you worked with way now how old were you guys then

Speaker 3 Yeah, it was my first job, literally the last week of high school.

Speaker 3 I got cast on her show.

Speaker 3 And so i we worked together for like three weeks then and then i went away to college and like i didn't have an agent anymore i was focused on school and they called me back to do more and they helped me get an agent like being on the amanda show kind of like started my my grown-up acting career um and we were friends and then we did a movie together big fat liar um and she was the best she was it was a very important relationship to me in my life and and yeah she's i was she like how old are we when you start what's the amanda show is she like 11 or like really young?

Speaker 1 She's, she's 14, 15 when she, when she was and then she got movies, and that was one of the movies she did where like the she's the man was one, of course, I remember. Is that what it's called?

Speaker 1 She's the man? The soccer one? Yes.

Speaker 3 Yeah, exactly. Channing Tatum.
And hilarious.

Speaker 1 And I always thought she's so great.

Speaker 3 So she's one of the most talented people.

Speaker 1 I think she's one of those people everyone pulls for, like Brittany. Like, yeah.
It's a very tough world out here in showbiz at whatever level. And they are at, they were a high level.

Speaker 3 And uh, yeah, she seems like that age too, like to be at a full, like Lucille Ball, Carol Burnett, dynamic, and, and, and had the good, you know,

Speaker 1 she's truly one of the best, right? And she's good at it, good at it, funny, very cute. Uh, yeah, and it's just such a weird world out here.

Speaker 1 That we're and when they're young, you're right, you just don't know. Ariana,

Speaker 1 Timberlake, yeah, oh, yeah, Ariana. She's a talent.

Speaker 2 Well, I was going to ask you, because you think, okay, high school senior, and then you go do that. Like

Speaker 2 in the sort of neurosis, fear, paranoia, whatever, how are you mentally navigating show business? Like, were you super scared getting on SNL? Or you'd done so much that you maybe were more confident?

Speaker 2 I'm just curious.

Speaker 3 Yeah, like I started auditioning very young.

Speaker 3 Like, I think I was five years old. when I did my first commercial audition

Speaker 3 and fortunately was not successful at all.

Speaker 1 I'm Terrence.

Speaker 1 I love milkshakes. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Your mom took you four or six Sagaftra.

Speaker 1 Slightly.

Speaker 3 Buckwold and Associates.

Speaker 1 That was Buckwold. Is that really what it was?

Speaker 1 Oh, fuck.

Speaker 1 Sutton Barth and Veneri.

Speaker 3 But, but, so, like, was always adjacent and enough exposure, but, but without any of the trappings of success, thank goodness.

Speaker 1 And then all the hassle. Don't worry about that.
Yeah, all that. All that work left.
20 million.

Speaker 1 Yeah, still working.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 And then in high school, I went to the performing arts high school here in LA, Loxa.

Speaker 3 And so started doing theater and really loved musical theater in particular and was going to college for musical theater.

Speaker 3 And then in that sort of like reconnection with the Amanda show and getting representation, I started auditioning again and on a fluke got mad TV when I was 19.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's right.

Speaker 3 Yeah, like just like.

Speaker 3 doing lots of impressions of WB stars and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 And then

Speaker 3 my characters were just impressions of my teachers that I didn't like.

Speaker 1 Who's on with you that we would know right around then?

Speaker 3 I was there for Sasso's last year and

Speaker 3 Alex Borstein. And then I was with Mo Collins and Michael McDonald and Stephanie Weir,

Speaker 1 Andrew Daly.

Speaker 3 Artie had come and gone already. I was like the seventh season.
So I was like kind of deeper, deeper in.

Speaker 3 And was just in way over my head and like, what is this? And Sketch God,

Speaker 1 I'm a theater actor.

Speaker 3 And then loved it so much. And so many of the people, particularly on the writing side that I love, like Michael Hitchcock and Jennifer Joyce were Groundlings people.

Speaker 3 So I left Mad TV and started taking classes at Groundlings and kind of then had my eye on the prize for SNL.

Speaker 1 Did that help you knowing a little bit about it? Was it similar? Yes.

Speaker 3 SNL and Mad TV

Speaker 3 in that they're like, yeah, just in that they're sketch comedy shows.

Speaker 3 But I think, you know, where mad tv probably had a lot more chefs at the top level snl has lorn yeah you know and i think that that's probably the biggest chef

Speaker 2 he's got an aura i just have to back up for a second yeah so you're going to high school you tell your parents well yeah i'm going to go to high school and you were living in big bear right that's right so okay ray where you want to go i want to go to a performing arts high school and i want to pursue musical theater and you knew this at 17 18.

Speaker 3 and they went it was yeah i mean and they were in support of it no and if anything my mom was encouraging of it she she kind of uh you know her her great uncle was robert stack and her cousin david bow is an act like so she knew she knew

Speaker 1 we just on february 27th if you can't do the yamavar studios chris tucker turns down 20 million no one knows why yamavar studios but i love anyone who does an impression not not well and just says the name i'm robert stack you know and you kind of hypnotize people i guess it does help i guess it's good you know why are we saying it's the first thing that was will forte robert stack

Speaker 3 he did that in his audition he said one of his audition moments for snl was hello i'm martin sheen and if i don't sound like myself it's because i have a cold but if you do think i sound like him great and that was the whole bit well that's funny but will forte has his own lane and at snlest man he's the potato chip sketch.

Speaker 2 He was surprised how big a fan I was of

Speaker 2 that sketch where him and Sedakis go shithouse over a bowl of potato chips and just full tilt commitment to drama and crime.

Speaker 2 Because he thought he took one of his potato chips. It's anyway.
It's just Bill Forte.

Speaker 3 The best perk of the job is going on the server and seeing like cut for time sketches. And he had a sketch called Finders Keepers.
It was a season finale, and Alec Baldwin was the host.

Speaker 3 And Baldwin is coming back from the beach and he's like, where's my car?

Speaker 1 I just parked my car here.

Speaker 3 And Forte has a metal detector at the beach and he's sitting on the hood of his car that's covered in sand. And he's like, sorry, buddy, finders keepers.

Speaker 1 And Alec goes, what are you talking about? That's my car. Get off the hood.

Speaker 3 And I think there's three lines of dialogue in the full exchange. And then Forte launches into a full song called Find Finders Keepers, Losers, Weepers.

Speaker 1 It's the law of the beach. And

Speaker 3 the whole sketch is just this song song explaining the rules of finders keepers at the beach. And it's he and it gives me so much joy.
And it went to silence.

Speaker 3 It was pretty quiet, I think. Thank goodness.
The nice thing about a musical sketch is the music's playing.

Speaker 1 So at least it seems loud, like things are happening. There's some decibels being achieved.

Speaker 1 There's some decibels happening. Yeah.
How sickening when it doesn't work.

Speaker 1 The worst is when you go in there like, that's for a short cut, but you still walk in the room like this. Huh?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hope that's 1% hopefully.

Speaker 1 Do they think it was so funny that no one laughed?

Speaker 2 They should do a

Speaker 2 short film of people coming in because now they're back on into Lauren's office and they glance over and you can tell by their attitude that their sketch is to the right

Speaker 1 camera in the wall, Dana. Yeah.
When we walked in

Speaker 1 and my first time, they opened Lauren's office. I don't know how they do it now, but we wait outside and so thirsty and gross.

Speaker 1 And I had my Yakov Smirnov outfit on

Speaker 1 my first update. And Dennis was in there.
For some reason, Dennis was in there. and they opened the door, and I see like Downey and I'm all pouring out.

Speaker 1 And Dennis puts his hand to me and goes, You can take off the beard, Spud.

Speaker 1 And I was like, What? And I walk in there, my knees moved over. Oh, sickening.
Is that helpful?

Speaker 3 Is that a nice thing?

Speaker 1 No, I would have found out in three more seconds. You,

Speaker 2 yeah, you can lose the facial hair at this point.

Speaker 1 Just no one connecting eyes tells you something.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I never housed more handfuls of popcorn than with a a cut sketch

Speaker 1 and small talk. So who's the host next week? Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, act like you're not hurt and kind of clock care in the sketches.

Speaker 1 Great.

Speaker 3 Yeah, part of the process.

Speaker 1 Not part of the process. Wayne's World Cold Open Stayed In.
Oh, good, good, good. No, I wanted to see it again.

Speaker 3 Good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I got caught.

Speaker 2 If my stuff was cut, I just walk slowly over to Lauren, get right up into Schnaz and go, seriously, dude, I don't think so.

Speaker 1 Come on, man. Let's move it back over.

Speaker 1 Worst mistake.

Speaker 1 you know that reminds me when i tried to get a manager reminds me of that scenario uh and i got gerbits but back then dana we have the same manager

Speaker 1 and back then it was between him and someone else and he goes and do the right thing just call him you know it's always do the right thing by the way i never want to do the right thing again because The right thing never is like the fun thing.

Speaker 1 And he goes,

Speaker 1 I wish I could have texted him. But now he goes, just call him.
He's a big boy, you know, and just hey, it went another way because you never know.

Speaker 1 You know, I said, hey, man, I, you know, it didn't work out. I'm going to try out this other guy.
Who knows? He might suck. And, you know, whatever.

Speaker 1 The guy goes, you just made the worst fucking mistake of your life. And I was like, God dang.
And that scarred me forever. I was not ready for it.

Speaker 1 And I was new in Showbiz going, I don't want to make any enemies. He goes, He's a big boy.
He was not a big boy. He's a small boy.

Speaker 2 I still feel guilty about that reaction I had with you.

Speaker 1 Manager was David Carvey.

Speaker 1 was a it was those breakups are hard.

Speaker 3 I had one of those too, and I got what I got was like,

Speaker 3 well, yeah, hey, you know, like, uh, like, I'm

Speaker 3 like, I had to break up with someone I'd been with, and he's like, you know, um, listen, people get jobs, and and they like to move on and shake it up, and some people stay loyal.

Speaker 3 Um, and that's okay that you didn't want to go.

Speaker 1 Oh, you threw that

Speaker 1 and they throw in.

Speaker 1 We just had a kid,

Speaker 1 I have children.

Speaker 1 Am I going to be here?

Speaker 2 Have you seen a picture of my baby?

Speaker 1 That's my responsibility.

Speaker 3 And my house.

Speaker 1 Here's my child. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 And here's my chart from my doctor.

Speaker 1 I'm going to put him on.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Tell him.
You tell him. I can't.
Yeah. Break his heart.

Speaker 3 Hello, Mr. Spade.

Speaker 1 I love you. Oh, thank you.
Listen to me.

Speaker 3 Never miss an episode of Lights Out. I would just say

Speaker 1 Lights Out? That's true.

Speaker 2 Everyone loves Lights Out, but I said, never name a show that makes it easy to cancel. Hey, Lights Out.
Sure.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Lights out for good.

Speaker 2 I want to do a show that's like seventh season.

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Speaker 3 Are there versions that have worked of like a negative sounding title that's been successful?

Speaker 1 No, Dana's positive. Deadwood?

Speaker 1 Deadwood is good. There should be one called Dead on Arrival.
That's a good one to critique.

Speaker 1 DOA got resuscitated.

Speaker 1 Dana's got Critics' Choice.

Speaker 2 Critics' Choice,

Speaker 2 my special from the 90s.

Speaker 2 i just called it critics choice there was no no online nothing and so my sister would call me be in the tv guide or whatever you got critics choice again man congratulations awesome critics choice four stars yeah me and my siblings know know the the ross perot scap like that that can a finish

Speaker 1 can a finish

Speaker 1 can a finish can a finish that's funny like we knew that we can a tuna fish

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Speaker 1 Can I come in on the one?

Speaker 1 Can I come in on the one?

Speaker 2 Can I come in on the one? Yeah, it is just a song. But, you know, to that,

Speaker 2 one of my favorite impressions all time

Speaker 2 is your Matthew McConaughey.

Speaker 2 And I felt the first time you saw it, then the sec, I saw it a second time, and then you were so blessed in the praise.

Speaker 1 Well, because blessed soul. Let's see from

Speaker 1 Caesar.

Speaker 3 Praise from Caesar. Sorry, Dave.

Speaker 2 No, it's better than even a great impression. It's like a character, it's an extrapolation into a character, and you had so many hooks.
And I wish we could just play it right now because

Speaker 2 don't you get reaction to that? I haven't seen anyone.

Speaker 3 People like that. Yeah, people like that one a lot.
That came out of because everybody has a McConnehey. Like, it's pretty

Speaker 3 much it.

Speaker 2 I like yours.

Speaker 2 You kind of, you own it.

Speaker 3 I mean, it was, it was watching True Detective. I was obsessed with that first season of True Detective.
I knew he was so indulgent out there in the stars, celestial, bing bang, shooting brown.

Speaker 3 What do we do when we're cosmic light? You know, it's just like him just like

Speaker 1 that.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he's all these hippie references and all these little sound effects.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 3 And it's, and, and when he won the, when he won the Oscar, maybe for Dallas Buyers or whatever, he's like, talking out there to my wolf pack,

Speaker 3 hunting groups of us, primal, getting the meat, roasting on the spit, on the fire, but there's plenty of spots for people to come around.

Speaker 1 What are you saying? What are you saying?

Speaker 1 It's fun.

Speaker 3 But like, he's always so positive, too.

Speaker 3 I always like doing like positive energy ones because, like, I would struggle if it was a criticism, you know, or if you were like, no, it's if it was a takedown. It's a little bit harder.

Speaker 3 And that was so fun because he was just being full, uncut, authentic McConaughey.

Speaker 3 And I remember writing that one.

Speaker 3 That's one that, like, you know, you sat down for 30 minutes and improvised 50 different wild lines and like people responded to it and then spent six hours and didn't go home and slept on the floor for my grape stomping sketch or whatever.

Speaker 3 And of course, that tanks at the table.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I heard about that.

Speaker 3 It was a bad one.

Speaker 3 It was infamous.

Speaker 1 It got out here.

Speaker 3 I was terrible at pitching too.

Speaker 3 I was really bad at the pitch. And I actually did,

Speaker 3 because I have like a small role in 12 Years a Slave, which doesn't make sense to

Speaker 1 project that sketch performer. I just remember that.
It was like, hi, I'm Sarah. Cameo.

Speaker 3 Hey, you had a. All right, what are we doing here? We're stealing liberty.
We're entrapping people,

Speaker 3 regressing, making America great again.

Speaker 3 No, but I did a bit for almost an entire season. where I would start to pitch the host on an idea.
I was like, well, you know,

Speaker 3 I know you're in a movie movie with a plane, so that's great. And I thought we could play pilots.

Speaker 3 Because, you know, when I was in 12 Years a Slave, what I found about the process that was most rewarding, and then I'd go real indulgent, and it got some chuckles at first, and then it was terrible.

Speaker 3 And then Brian Tucker had to tell me, he's like, don't do that anymore.

Speaker 3 Don't do that. Lauren has said something.
Don't do that anymore.

Speaker 1 Why is she doing that? That's funny.

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 2 yeah, I don't understand all that.

Speaker 2 That place could be a little bit.

Speaker 1 It made Chrissy Teigen uncomfortable.

Speaker 2 By the way, when you did Ted Cruz,

Speaker 2 I don't think I was hosting that time. I think

Speaker 2 I was doing Fallon, and then Lauren said, and you'll do Church Lady. You know, he tells you it's a Thursday.

Speaker 2 I thought I was flying.

Speaker 2 You'll be in the outfit. You'll wear the Church Lady wig.
You wear the dress.

Speaker 1 You'll wear it on the flight.

Speaker 2 You'll do clever put-downs.

Speaker 1 Lauren,

Speaker 1 I know how to go.

Speaker 2 But then the interesting thing about that was that Daryl came on and did the Trump that we all knew before the new Trump, which was was great.

Speaker 3 I love it.

Speaker 2 And Daryl was Trump, looked like Trump, incredible Trump, but then Trump in 2016

Speaker 2 just came in with all these different hooks, you know, and all the stuff we see today. And so that's why he didn't, he sort of felt bad that he didn't get to Trump.
Well, it was old.

Speaker 2 It was Trump from the 90s, you know. It was just very, it was none of the, we're going to do this shit, all these different hooks and we're going to, we're going to do it.

Speaker 2 We're going to do the bragging.

Speaker 3 You know, it was all kind of new um yeah my favorite daryl one was the dominoes pizza commercial he would do those commercial ones yeah like here's what we're gonna do i'm gonna tell you the thing and they say oh mr trump can you focus the camera i think i'm gonna focus the camera i think that was a good idea that i had like it was all that bluster and james which i just i just like i think james austin johnson is just a full genius like it's a yeah i would watch his videos before he was hired too talking about Scooby-Doo and stuff.

Speaker 2 I would say for people who might get the reference, he's the Miles Davis of that impression. It's better than an impression.
It's got so many, it's like jazz that you're missing all the hooks.

Speaker 3 But Daryl's. We did a charity event together where he did karaoke as Trump and is just freestyling in between versus, and it's amazing.

Speaker 1 He's good at improving as Trump. He's so good.
Very hard to do.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you can give him any TV show from the seven. When he was on our podcast live in Texas, he just any, any, the Brady bunch.
And then he's right on Trump. He knows that so well.

Speaker 2 Peter Brady, Peter Brady. Yeah.

Speaker 3 He likes to criticize himself. He's doing it to get friends.
I don't need to do that.

Speaker 1 No one wants to criticize Trump. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 But Daryl's feelings were hurt because they went with Alec Baldwin. But I said, that's just a totally different idea and choice.

Speaker 2 And so it wouldn't be a competitive thing. It's just like that was just, you know, I think.

Speaker 1 But what a weird thing. Start off with a cast member or start off with a big star.
I think that's when Lauren finally was like, a cold opening with a big star guaranteed that's not the host

Speaker 1 helps. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Is it fair? We don't know, but it helps.

Speaker 2 Well, did that start? Because I just went and did Biden. And before I did it, I made sure it was Steve Hook.
And this, I swear to God, I would have backed out.

Speaker 2 I said, does anyone want to do Biden on the cast? And be honest with me, because Mikey Day was doing whatever. And he said, no, no one wants to do it.
Trust me. So then I did it.

Speaker 2 But this, this thing, this thing of like,

Speaker 2 you know, older cast members and movie stars coming in, did you, did you have some of that? When did that start?

Speaker 3 It's gone below, it's gone beyond a launching platform.

Speaker 1 It's, it's now an institution and you have to maintain an institution. And there's a quality to that, right?

Speaker 2 I can have Bob Lilfey do the state attorney general, or I can have like Matt Damon.

Speaker 1 my God.

Speaker 3 Lisa, I mean,

Speaker 3 there's so much to speak to to the brilliance of Lorne, you know, having just celebrated the 50th, which was like such a joyful weekend other than your absence.

Speaker 1 That was probably the biggest blemish.

Speaker 2 Hey, man, I'll just say it. I'm just going to say it.
60th. That's all I'm going to say.

Speaker 1 You already booked hotels, movie tickets.

Speaker 2 We'll use filters.

Speaker 2 You'll get your neck whoopee taped back.

Speaker 3 You have to use real glass.

Speaker 1 That's the point.

Speaker 2 But yeah, I maintain, just to start the conversation, that no one else could have done what Lauren's done.

Speaker 2 And there were so many episodes of Saturn Live Intrigue or whatever, where the masters in charge basically would say, you got to do an hour. You got to pre-tape it.
You got to change the theme.

Speaker 2 So Lauren stayed with the brand, but also was

Speaker 2 very flexible with the brand. You know, as it changed, the culture changed.
So go ahead. What were you going to say?

Speaker 3 No, I completely agree with that. I think that's right.
And I think that

Speaker 3 one of the many aspects of

Speaker 3 his

Speaker 3 insightfulness as a producer is,

Speaker 3 you know, you got to get people talking about you. And if they're not talking about it, then

Speaker 3 it's wasted air a little bit. You know what I mean? So I think like a Baldwin hire gets people talking about it, gets eyeballs.

Speaker 1 Now you get it.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 too late.

Speaker 2 We were in the analog stage, early analog, that it was just a small bulletin board board with a few letters on it. And now it's blasted on YouTube.

Speaker 2 So, yeah, the paradigm is shifted, will evolve with the moment.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Well, I mean, something I love about your podcast and any sort of like SNL-focused podcast is it's this free therapy.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 To be like, was I a weirdo? Was I, okay, no, there's at least five more people that had a similar feeling or experience.

Speaker 3 And then, and then also inversely like, oh, no, I was probably a weirdo about that aspect of the show.

Speaker 3 But I'm really enjoying the Lonely Island Seth Meyers podcast too, because I, I, for the same reason, but I also feel that those guys, the Lonely Island,

Speaker 3 will never get as much credit as they really deserve for

Speaker 3 adapting the format for a new generation.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 3 Like that's probably the biggest change, speaking to what you were talking about, Dana, of like,

Speaker 3 you know, maintaining quality, maintaining its brand identity. And yet now there are four guaranteed pre-tapes per episode.

Speaker 1 There's a full studio,

Speaker 2 and they'll get the hosts will do pre-tapes on all day Friday,

Speaker 1 get them up at 6 a.m.

Speaker 2 and do a whole pre-tape all day. It is hard sketch, but so that is, yeah, and Andy and his

Speaker 1 lazy Sunday was the beginning of going, wait, what is this? And then, and you realize right away, oh my God, this is what, plus he's a good-looking dude. Everything hit.
It was like cool, good-looking

Speaker 1 video then people start watching it you're like they're watching it where like that was beginning of youtube i think

Speaker 3 yeah no i think you're exactly right in terms of like an injection of relevancy no one has had a more direct effect yeah i on the show

Speaker 2 and i got to get to know andy better just doing the uh it was like a pete you know you need a good looking dude in there that

Speaker 1 younger people kind of go oh why would i watch snl oh okay yeah yeah yeah they need a reason uh it's

Speaker 2 really smart. I do love musical pairs.
I would love to be in one. I just do love when Andy's, even the stuff he did recently.
Not even, the stuff he did recently was fantastic.

Speaker 2 And it is something fun. Were you in one of those pre-tape?

Speaker 3 The anxiety video is so smart. And he did it for the 40th.
It was great too. The breaking video about people who break.

Speaker 3 They're incredibly smart, but and joyful. I love those guys.
I respect them so much.

Speaker 3 And I got to, I think like my first week, it was like, I'm going to be in a digital short. I have made it.
I have arrived. And I had like one off-camera line in a video called Booger Man.

Speaker 2 There you go. That's SNL.

Speaker 1 You know? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 It's like, okay, all right. They're not all, they're not all lazy Sundayers, but I'd read for Booger Man.

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Speaker 1 Uh, Taryn, when you, when I left SNL, it was sort of decided toward the end of the season when Adam and Farley left. It was a little weirder, like vague,

Speaker 1 where I had heard later they were fired. I didn't even hear it from them.
I heard it like two years ago.

Speaker 1 And when you left the show, what is the way you get information? Is it direct from Lorne?

Speaker 1 Is it an agent calls an agent or business affairs? How does it work?

Speaker 3 Yeah, my manager at the time called me, but they were doing the Marty and Maya variety show during the summer.

Speaker 3 And I was directing a film that summer. So I was in Canada.
And I, I was

Speaker 3 wisely or unwisely, like ready to move back to LA, ready to be with my family, ready to kind of be done with the schedule of the show.

Speaker 3 And I think probably have made it known, not always in the most gracious of ways.

Speaker 3 And they asked for like an extension that summer. They said, hey, we need more time.
We're producing Marty and Maya and Mai before we made our decisions.

Speaker 3 And I pushed back. I said, like, no, tell me now or let's be done.

Speaker 3 And through people, it was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 3 They're doing it for everybody. They're doing it.
And so we said, okay, with some caveats of other jobs and like clearing my post-schedule for editing the film and blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 3 And they, so we said, okay, two-week extension. And then three weeks goes by and you don't hear anything.

Speaker 3 And then, and then like in the fourth week, my manager calls and goes like, I think I've got good news. Um, and they've decided not to pick up

Speaker 1 how it was phrased to me.

Speaker 1 I mean, at least you're ready to go and you're not totally blindsided, like moving back to like, I would move home every summer back to LA, yeah, lose the apartment, everything, because they just would not tell you, and they wouldn't say, Of course, but it's a technicality, they're like, We have no idea, and they wouldn't, you know, encourage you to say,

Speaker 1 You're coming back, just let us, you know, so,

Speaker 1 but that is a weird process because Dana might, I mean, I don't think Dana had this exactly, but they

Speaker 3 still has rose petals stuck to the bottom of the show.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Once the bitch came out, you know, it anchors the show.

Speaker 2 I mean, you know, but anyway, I just wanted to say that

Speaker 2 we've talked to people recently who just auditioned two or three times, and these are great comedians to get on SNL and really feeling such regret that either they pushed at their audition.

Speaker 2 And so then when you look at you, you with a baby and a movie and you'd already, you're already in the Hall of Fame in my money,

Speaker 2 six seasons, you know. So it was just odd because you probably would have maybe, maybe done one more or not, but it sounds like

Speaker 2 on the fence. And so.

Speaker 3 Six was enough for me. I mean, everything you just said, Dana, means a lot to me, and I'm very grateful to you for saying it.
It's true.

Speaker 3 I've done the work, I've made peace and I've also really been able to take more responsibility for my participation in that in that it I got what I asked for, quite honestly.

Speaker 3 And it's not fair of me to go like, I, you know, yeah, but I didn't want it in that way.

Speaker 1 No, because the truth is, if it's between like two cast members and they're like, you know, this would kill the one guy and you have one foot out the door. They're like, I think he'd be fine with it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And we just move on.
It makes it easier in a way.

Speaker 2 I do think, I think so. There is sort of well, it's a very, it's such a bizarre psychosocial dynamic, just for every reason.

Speaker 2 And Lawrence said that part of his aloofness was to protect himself, you know, because everyone would want to go in, and what about this and that, and so forth, and so on.

Speaker 2 So, but I just see it run as a total success, obviously. I mean, it's like,

Speaker 2 I don't even, I mean, how many people really got on there, really landed and had reoccurring characters? And it's hard.

Speaker 1 Do you take, you know, I would imagine, kind of happened with me where you're so burned out, but after a month or two when the show's back on,

Speaker 1 you get your legs back and you're like, it would be fun to go in. But you also, you realize don't think like that because it's a day-to-day new host.
What are you writing? What do you got?

Speaker 1 If you could pick and choose when you came on, that's different.

Speaker 1 But man, every week is just such a stressful growth.

Speaker 2 Well, I would put this in the ether because you were just there. And I think you should come on and do Matthew McConaughey for a reason that he, you know, whatever.
Lit off a firecracker or something.

Speaker 2 You know, I think that. Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 3 being back for the 50th was truly like healing and joyful. Like it was really positive.
And I have to assume almost everyone like me went in with your defenses up, like your dukes up a little bit.

Speaker 3 And from... Word one, it was just like appreciation and reflection and gratitude and, you know, swapping stories.

Speaker 3 And then Mulaney put me in his musical piece for one line, which I was not expecting.

Speaker 1 And that felt

Speaker 1 a rat costume. What was the costume? Yeah, yeah, as Pizza Rat.
Were you Pizza Rat? That's great. I was Pizza Rat, man.
We were there.

Speaker 3 That's history now, man.

Speaker 1 I think it was Halloween as Pizza Rat one year.

Speaker 3 Spade had, and I've heard multiple people say this now, and it was true from the first blocking rehearsal. Spade had the laugh of the entire show.

Speaker 1 Oh, I love you saying that. Well, Dev, we've heard this.

Speaker 3 It's factual. It is factual because I was in that sketch.
So I watched it when we're like rehearsing downstairs, not even for cameras.

Speaker 3 And I got a feel for it.

Speaker 1 Everybody laughs.

Speaker 3 We do it in front of camera.

Speaker 1 I've got it.

Speaker 3 Every crew member laughs. And that's always the best indicator if something's going to work.

Speaker 1 Oh, they've just seen it all. And they're so, yeah.

Speaker 3 And every, there was not a time you delivered that line that it did not get a full-voiced laugh from everybody in the room.

Speaker 1 It was I watched it.

Speaker 2 I watched the show live, and I remember how funny that was. And then I didn't know if Mulaney could quite hear it, but there was this other secondary laugh that's on the soundtrack.

Speaker 2 You know, the audience is because it's so dry and weird and quirky and so unexpected because the musical is so effusive.

Speaker 1 And there's one guy which just stands and it goes on forever.

Speaker 1 We got it. Yeah, it's funny.
It's so many setups.

Speaker 3 Every part of the stage.

Speaker 2 So you're not the only one who said that. And writers, Higgins told us, all the writers, that was their favorite line of the whole 50s.

Speaker 1 So there you go.

Speaker 1 David, listen to

Speaker 1 even get a line, like you said, to even be in that sketch because you're in nothing when you land.

Speaker 2 And I said, Higgins, don't worry about me.

Speaker 1 I'm coming. I'm not.
And then Mulaney goes, hey, Mulaney, might want to throw you in something. I'm like, done.

Speaker 1 Whatever it is,

Speaker 1 same thing. So to get one that actually like that was super fun.
And to be weird enough to go in the audience.

Speaker 3 Yeah, but also so tailor-made. Like, there isn't a cast member past, present, future

Speaker 3 that could have landed it as good as you. Like, it was tailored to the point where people asked me after the fact.
Like, I'm telling you in my own life, they're like, so what happened?

Speaker 3 Did he actually leave like during rehearsal?

Speaker 1 And they came up to me. I was like,

Speaker 3 that was by design from David's burn.

Speaker 2 It's his specialty that, you know, not pushing.

Speaker 1 It's very lucky to have something like that where it would fit me because,

Speaker 3 you know, also the pressure pressure of going one line they go and wallie goes you need a cue card for this and he's like rolling his eyes i go i guess i don't he's like you don't and i'm like all right i don't like and to over dissect it like it's you know true to your voice no i like it this is what we do professionally but it's true to your voice it also it also breaks the fourth wall so it speaks to it being live yeah it also speaks to the generate we're celebrating the generations and like this is your thing this is different from my time like it just was like perfectly constructed and layered.

Speaker 3 I appreciate it. And always got the biggest lap.

Speaker 1 I love it. There you go.

Speaker 2 That's a pretty nice feather in your head. Thank you.

Speaker 1 It's only the fans

Speaker 1 because that's the best.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it is in the end of the day, you know, it just, when we look back on our time there,

Speaker 2 you know, we never ever want to do a military analogy. It's like being in the Marines.
Forget that. But it is some kind of spree de corps because you can get humiliated on that show.
You can crush.

Speaker 2 you can get any kind of emotion you can imagine and it's hard to get on and everyone wants to be on it in the comedy world and so i think i'm i'm sure that was the vibe of the 50 is like anyone who did it and did it well it's just respect you know i think the 50th for us the camaraderie is more akin to like we were in the blue origin together

Speaker 1 the space thing was just we've been in space for 12 minutes that's that's how tight we were the bond yep yep yeah so it's it's not the army. We were all Katy Perry that night.

Speaker 1 We were all Katy Perry. The stress, the ups, the downs.

Speaker 3 You have to buckle.

Speaker 1 You have to unbuckle.

Speaker 1 We had the training up. Well, thank you, buddy.
Thank you. Thanks for chatting.
Had a great time. Thank you.

Speaker 3 Thanks for having me. Hey, are they going to pick up that animated pilot we did together or what?

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. Tara and I did, what was it called?

Speaker 2 We were in a booth somewhere

Speaker 2 doing this animated thing, and I guess it just didn't go, but it was fun.

Speaker 1 It's not the TFA one, is it?

Speaker 2 No, no, it goes back before that.

Speaker 3 You were like an evil billionaire.

Speaker 1 I was an evil billionaire.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 It was precious. There's so much.

Speaker 3 I was hoping that's what this was about, was you telling me you got

Speaker 1 the pickup? Yeah. Well, you're.
But this has been great, too. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Just one last thing. You're going to be in a show on ABC for the second season.
I mean, there's so much show business. Obviously, understatement of the year, but yeah, everybody works.

Speaker 2 Everyone's doing an animated thing or whatever thing, and no one knows what anyone's doing unless it's some massive, gigantic whatever, you know? So totally, totally.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, high potential ABC. Oh, high potential.
Okay. And you got to do spam a lot.

Speaker 2 Fucker.

Speaker 3 Yeah, dude. Dude, that was, that was

Speaker 1 the best.

Speaker 3 Well, and Eric was there. Eric was there.
And like, when we first started rehearsing, they're like, well, he may not be around much and stuff.

Speaker 3 And then we do like a first dress rehearsal and he's backstage.

Speaker 2 He's like, I think we can beat that joke.

Speaker 1 I'm like, okay,

Speaker 3 okay, Python.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just to be anything, anything you want.

Speaker 2 And you are perfect for that. You are, you are, you, that is your lane.
You can do that whenever you feel like it. Musical Broadway.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it was a beautiful marriage. Like,

Speaker 3 I don't, I think the first movie I ever quoted, you know, was, was, was Holy Grail.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 yeah. It's only a flesh woman.
Yeah. Yes.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Was that like a girl?

Speaker 1 Bunch of legs off.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That's Holy Grail.
Yeah. Yeah.
Oh, great.

Speaker 3 And then, yeah, having started wanting to pursue musical theater, it was really like this perfect marriage.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, in New York.

Speaker 2 You're still incredibly young. So you're going to have to do this for a long, long time.
But

Speaker 2 great.

Speaker 1 Great.

Speaker 2 David, do you have a final joke or something?

Speaker 1 No, I appreciate talking to him and had a good time today. Yeah.

Speaker 3 I admire you both. I respect you so much.
I've been a fan my whole life. So

Speaker 3 rubbed elbows is a great honor to you.

Speaker 1 Dana, we should be playing

Speaker 1 music right now. Yeah.

Speaker 1 while we say this. Zoom hug.

Speaker 3 Special thank you, David Spane.

Speaker 1 Thank you, Dana Carvey.

Speaker 3 Tony McCartney.

Speaker 1 All right, see you, bud.

Speaker 2 Peace out.

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Speaker 1 Fly on the Wall is executive and produced by Dana Carvey and David Spade, Jenna Weiss-Berman of Odyssey, and Heather Santoro. The show's lead producer is Greg Holtzman.