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You look great.

You look wonderful.

Thank you.

They pulled me from hair in makeup.

They pulled me.

I love Authentic Spade is my favorite spade.

Yeah, look at me.

Yeah.

It's awesome.

It's a little sharp.

Yeah.

Sharp.

Sharp.

Good.

No, there's texture.

There's contrast.

Taryn looks the best.

Dana looks like a best because it's bright.

Do you have the blur background, Taryn?

No, it's a good camera, but I do have the touch-up filter on.

Yeah, you're 26, so I don't know.

If we could videotape this, I mean, your new nickname is high school senior.

I'll take the beard

and go out.

Just go out.

Yeah, the beard is fake, so I can get booze.

He was a strip man that went back to high school.

He had a beard when he was 13.

Invest in Apple.

Trust me.

Yeah.

Damn, that's too close to home.

I was told to do that in 2003, and I told the guy to fuck off.

I said, no, take your Apple stock ideas.

It will never work.

Dana, you're the anti-forest gum.

Yeah.

You go back and get bad advice.

What is that obvious now?

You You know, what's what's the well, we can't tell right now because everything's just like,

it's gonna, exactly.

It's gonna be a tech that I don't even understand.

I got all my money in female space missions.

Okay, you're doing very well.

One for one.

Oh, that's right.

Well, we'll, we can talk about that if you want, but

I just went straight into the divine feminine, just all divine feminine.

That's the future.

No, I'd go to space.

I'd go to space.

Wouldn't you go to space?

Sure.

It's seemingly like the uproar is like how they talked about going to space.

Like they weren't, they weren't acknowledging of the jet fuel enough, but I'd go to space.

Well, the tension is that any rocket could blow up any second in the tension.

I guess that would make me nervous.

And that's the, you know, oh, oh, sorry.

It was a fuse.

We didn't trade it out.

You know, the fuck.

So if we lost Gale that way, I'd never forgive us.

You never.

Can you imagine if Oprah just went full Oprah?

If that thing exploded and she started beating the shit out of Bezos,

that's her like John Wick movie.

She becomes a one Oprah army.

Try to pull her off.

Anybody who drives a cyber truck suddenly ends up dead.

You want some of this, Oprah?

But anyway, I like the Jeff Bezos.

Everything in his whole ecosystem looks like a dick.

Like the spaceship does, the swoop on Amazon does.

His head.

His actual head.

His own head.

Sorry.

I don't.

know.

He doesn't.

It isn't.

No,

it's more square.

Square.

It's more chode-like.

They're rich and famous.

They fund his shit on them.

They're fine.

They're fine, man.

But seriously, would you go on the rocket?

Yeah.

Because we could do an SNL alumni rocket.

Oh, yeah.

That's what we say.

All right, troops.

Fred Armison, you'll be in the blue chair.

Who's your dream cast?

Like, no, who's your dream SNL astronaut?

Yeah, who's your dream?

Rocket cast.

Yeah, yeah.

Actually, I would cast you as an astronaut.

I'll take it.

Because

you can act and you could play it and you could play that kind of whatever you call that astronaut vibe.

I'll take it.

Dana, I didn't know this was going to be an hour of my heroes complimenting me, but I will.

Well, it kind of is.

It's faster.

It is.

Well, we just, yeah, you can run, but you cannot hide.

Sorry, Tan, Killium.

We're about to put a bunch of people.

You could use your bland Bachelor sort of character to go up in the space to be the everyman.

Exactly.

I just watched Bland Bachelor.

What was it called?

Miscellane Gomez.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I remember that.

How often does it happen where people bring up sketches that you have no memory of?

It's never not happened.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's funny because I said there's, I will remember everything I did on SNL,

and I wasn't like super sketch guy.

So I was in like one or two a show, and I still cannot remember half of them.

Yeah.

I remember my first week very well, and Seth being at the table talking about seeing an episode on BH1 or whatever.

And he's like, it turned it on, and Amy Puller was in it.

And I was like, oh, I must have been changing backstage.

I don't remember this sketch.

And he walked on to the screen.

He was in the sketch.

And I remember thinking to myself, that'll never happen to me.

There's no way I will remember every second of this.

Well, 127 shows is the main metric that I read.

So probably because you were were ubiquitous on the show, 400 sketches?

Yeah.

Probably maybe 500.

Half of those high school astronauts.

The high school astronaut.

That's an addendum.

I have some film ideas for this dude before we get done, but let's go through his

transition to do a pitch movie.

I was at the Good Nights.

I saw a clip the other day, and

it was when Nirvana was on either, I don't know which time, but I guess Kirk Cobain had purple hair and he turned around and started making out with chris novosek or dave grohl and it was a big story and you pant you pull back and i'm standing right there you know in the back waiting to hug someone or get it over with not really watching them kiss and i'm like i do not remember being on the good nights and i do not remember seeing them kiss and That was scary because that was actually something that happened instead of just being in the background of a sketch or something.

So I realize it does happen.

It's very very real, what we're talking about.

It is.

We're getting deep, heavy, and real, but I um, yeah, keep heavy and real.

Dana's new special.

Deep, heavy, and real.

No, I know someone says that.

You know, when you hug people on the good nights, it's kind of interesting.

There's a traditional amount of hugging and hugging pressure, and then there's more pressure and longer.

And you're like, geez, I didn't know you felt this way about me.

It's like Heidi Gardner.

It's fascinating to like

she feels that way about everybody.

She's a lovely.

She's a lovely.

She's adorable.

It's fascinating how people project onto the good nights.

The only thing I would do is that when the when the beat would drop in the drums, I would like jump into the air and people caught onto that.

But that was like a fun tradition.

Oh, that's cool.

But otherwise, it's yeah, it was nice.

It was and not always on camera.

So sometimes you just see a shoulder popping into frame or whatever.

But it's so funny how people read into the, like, oh, look, they're angry.

They didn't hug.

They're angry.

Yeah, they skip.

The host walks right by you to hug someone next to you.

Oof, on camera.

Burn.

Burn.

Shame.

So you would go to the back and then snake your way toward the lens?

Or would you snake?

I wish, I wish.

Like a regret is, I wish I'd stayed in costume more because those are my favorite good nights to see.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Especially when the 10 to 1 got cut and you're just like, oh, yeah.

You're great.

Why is there some like robot clown on

holding a hot dog and it doesn't make it?

Dress like a

The best part is, when you're still in your costume, you're like,

barely made it to Good Nights.

Yeah.

Just to show it's live, folks.

Yeah, I do.

I love it.

Yeah, but in terms of like any who hugged me, who didn't, like, so much of,

just speaking for myself, like, I'm in my own head about my week.

Like, I literally don't care about anybody else.

Who did you hug the most?

Was it the host?

That's a good question.

Was Kristen?

Oh, man.

Yeah, Kristen and I overlap.

Kristen Kristen and I knew each other before the show, too, so she was always very kind to me.

Groundlings.

Yeah, Big G.

You're the coolest.

The Groundlings are the coolest because they just come in loaded.

They've already done sketch concepts.

We're stand-ups.

We're playing greasy spoons and shitboxes.

It's literally cheating when you go to read through the first day and I go, this guy will suck.

And then they got a...

fucking perfectly buffed out groundlings.

Like a perfect sketch you can take from Groundlings and put it on 8H and old Jed's a millionaire.

It is the best training in terms of like the structure.

Like there is no other comedy platform.

Second City is pretty close and similar, but Groundlings, especially the Sunday Company, is like new show every Sunday, pitching ideas.

But I love what Chris Rock says about it in that like

stand-up people come in and they know how to write jokes.

That is the difference.

That's the difference is that like the joke, that was something I structured, I struggled with.

Groundlings are character-based, so it's behavioral comedy, right?

Like to pare it down.

And the stand-ups, I was always so envious and covetous of just knowing that.

How to get laughs.

How to get laughs.

That's helpful.

I don't know how to write jokes.

Spade's a great joke writer, monologue writer, but he's telling a story, and then he has all these laugh points, you call them.

But

you, little tiny tent pulls, try

my sketches are tougher.

Go ahead.

Well,

what you lean in on is what I still find my favorite, where it's like, I did see one.

I went through because that's the cool thing.

YouTube, best of Taryn, you know.

So

I will go into a lot of them, but the one with Justin Bieber, where he says, Gleis, and you're totally carrying this sketch with attitude of the asshole brother who's really fucking with the data of his sister.

aggressively

and played all the beats and committed so hard that it was just so much fun to watch.

Oh, thanks, man.

Yeah, that was a groundling sketch for sure.

Oh, it was.

Yeah.

And tell me about it because I didn't see it.

Just explain it.

Do a little bit of the attitude so he would know.

Yes.

So

the premise is that Nassim brings home a boyfriend from college, Justin Bieber, and he has to meet her older,

like way past his prime, still living at home, brother, who like tries to act intimidating, but is pretty pretty pathetic and justin's first line is like it's glice to meet sorry it's nice to meet you i meant to say i'm glad to meet you and it's nice but i said glice and then my guy's like glice what the hell is glice you sound so stupid and then throughout the sketch all these details about my life come up it always comes back to glice

with the with and then he can't let go

he can't let go of the one thing he has against this beautiful charming young man who's come home of a jerk and the rather the rhythm and there it's like a joke in a way that you're going to glise and all that.

And then you kind of break it down again.

Oh, don't get me wrong, man.

You're cool, brother.

Yeah.

And then you, there's like a big laugh in it that was just me saying, remember?

Yeah.

Like I said, glise, and I say, remember, and it had happened 30 seconds ago.

Yeah.

He seems pretty cool, though.

Was he fun that way?

He was, yeah, he was young.

He was young and he was, he was entering a fade, but I had

no face.

That's

he's, yeah, he's, it was, it was like, uh, uh i feel like it was pre-roast post um you know post bilieber documentary right um but yeah but but but you know it it's so interesting like the currency in snl where i'm so desperate for laughs speaking of laughs but in many ways it's better to get like a whoop like a ah to get like the girls screaming you know that was like a big big part of like Timberlakes currency and stuff is like they're not necessarily howling or side splitting splitting, but they're just like when they would scream for justice, did you wave also?

Yeah, exactly.

Some of it's for me.

Trust me.

Yeah, some of it's for me.

It's a kind of a split crowd.

I won't point to which ones because I'm humble, but part of this is for me for sure.

Yeah.

All right.

Well, did you and Bieber?

Hi, guys.

No, no, I just don't.

Oh, sorry.

I got all this mess.

We've even been on a commercial for the last 12 minutes.

We're going to record.

We're going to start recording.

This is called our warm-up.

No, you should have talked to Bieber about what it's like.

You understand the quick fame.

Yeah, yeah.

Let me

sketch about him.

I'm like, man, I've been there, dude.

I just want to give you some advice.

Yeah.

I mean, I started on the show a little bit older.

Like, I was 28 when I started, which is,

I know that Pete and he, Pete Davidson and Bieber connected and were like, we're friendly for a while.

But I was already a dad when I started on the show.

So

I wasn't very good at like the hang, the post-hours hang.

Weird.

Yeah, weird, man.

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So, who did you overlap?

Like, you went in in 2010, so Hayter was still there.

Yeah.

And

Sedakis.

Yep.

So when did they leave?

I was there for two seasons with Wig and Samberg, and then they left after my second season.

And then Bill, Jason, and Fred stayed one more season.

And then I left.

How long ago?

Kristen Wigg?

Was it 212, you're saying?

2012?

Yeah.

Doesn't she left?

Yeah, yeah.

Shit.

Hey, time flies, man.

I mean, my God, I left in 1888.

So I I guess it's all relative.

Yeah.

I can see the musket on your wall.

Right after the Constitution came out, we had one bit of a bit about that.

And then I split.

And live from New York.

It's Saturday night.

Reload.

I like when people quit the show for like they got a commercial and they're like, I'm out.

I hit the big time.

And you're like, well, that's it.

I'm done.

Now they do commercials of sketches while you're watching the show.

And I'm only out there.

Oh, yeah, California.

They have the Californian sketch.

I go, right.

We will, we had to Kevin Nealon and I were forced to turn down a Nike campaign, just do it, in 1988.

It was going to be Jazz Do It.

So now they're like doing that.

I mean, I'm so

jealous, but I'm happy.

Can you ask them again?

Can you hit up Phil Knight and be like, hey, hey, man, we're still pissed.

We're still funny.

Yeah, let me tell you.

We still have the sweatshirts.

They still fit.

Hey, man, those guys are evergreen.

I wanted to go on the 50th before I got the flu as Hans and Franz.

And

I just, it would have been awesome.

You were so missed.

You were so missed.

I think you guys were fully loaded.

But thank you, Taryn.

I thought you were.

No, dude.

I mean, you are a legend.

And

yeah.

So it was felt.

It was felt.

It certainly was.

Did I host the show when you were there and you did a Harrison Ford at read-through, which kind of impressed me?

Yeah.

The attempt.

I go, who is this?

Who is this kid?

We got it on.

We got it on.

You did host and I got to be in a church lady, which was which a highlight for me.

And as Ted Cruz, less of a highlight for me.

But but then I got Harrison Ford on and I'm such, I'm a really big Star Wars nerd.

JJ Abrams reached out and he was editing the first new Star Wars, like the one that they brought back.

And he said, hey, will you do me a favor?

I need a line of dialogue off camera from Harrison.

Oh, my God.

And I can't get him for two months.

So we just want it for the real so it doesn't take you out of it.

It's like a special effects thing.

Will you do it?

So I got to report.

You take care of Chewy.

You get to the Falcon.

And like, you got it.

That's great.

And he used, he said, he used it up to literally the final mix.

So that was really cool.

And Harrison went, who the fuck is this?

Who the fuck is it?

My house.

Get out of the ports.

Get out of my house.

He's the coolest, man.

He's the freaking, he is the movie star.

He goes, get off my plane.

Then he goes, get out of my ship.

Then he goes, leave my coffee shops.

Give me back my work.

Stop sharing my parachute.

Don't even share my password.

Stop being a working girl.

That was a good one.

Oh, you were a whore and milk money.

Yeah.

Why?

Stop being such a witness.

Can I get a witness?

And of course, the iconic

Chewy, get me out of here.

Chewy, Chewy, take care of Chewy.

Yeah.

Chewy, your fleas are getting on me.

But you were great, Danny.

You were a great host.

And Spade, you've always been so, so kind to me.

Thank you.

First time we met was like the day that the Sandman, and I haven't earned saying that, but I like to say it because that's what everybody calls him.

I love that.

On Grown Up Sea, we came out for a day.

Oh, with it with a car wash?

Yeah, the car wash scene.

That was one of the best scenes.

That was such a fun day.

And you were so nice to all of us.

And Schneider was sitting that one out.

You were sort of filling us in on why.

Oh, he was sitting Grown Ups 2 out.

He sat that one out.

Oh, yeah.

I know.

And then, I don't know if you remember this, David, but at the 40th, you were in the end of the Californian schedule and Cecily did the Baby's.

And it was Saturday rehearsal.

And you and I got to talking.

And you and I walked up to like the rainbow room to the party together.

and you were telling me like

beat for beat the Eddie Murphy exchange.

Oh yeah, did I?

And you're telling me that and you're like, yeah, and I, you know, it was stressful and, and, and we're sitting at top of the rock.

I don't know if you remember this, but I, I couldn't believe it.

It was like, we live in a scenario.

Uh, we live in, um,

like we live in a, like a, a matrix like made up.

Yeah.

Um,

you're telling me the story.

You're telling me basically the end of the story.

Like Eddie came and then he walks in with brett ratner yeah he walks in over your shoulder and made a beeline for you and shook your hand and and you were so gracious to each other and it was such a cool moment that like clearly you made peace and and it was all good but i couldn't believe it i was like i'm watching yeah like the made-for-tv movie i love it simulations that's what i mean

and he was nice again so uh yeah i'm sure he's annoyed by that story it's so dumb but it's

kind of a good little juicy one

even though it's too far back is it done now Is it really done?

Or is it still done?

100% done now.

It still came up like a few months ago.

Don't be surprised if you see the two of us in the spaceship going somewhere.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Flying in the rocket together.

It was so cool.

In that moment, like at the 40th,

you were the first person he walked up to and shook your hand.

He was so cool, and it felt good.

And it was like, oh, Brett Ratner's here, too.

You got excited about Brett Ratner.

Not quite as excited, but, you know.

Tell me everything about Rush Hour.

Oh, yeah, Rush Hour.

God, he had to make Rush Hour.

Rush Hour.

He has got back end.

Chris Tucker does stand-up.

I just saw Chris Tucker was going to be at like Yamava or something in Palm Springs.

I'm like,

I would love to watch Chris Tucker do stand-up.

I don't even know what his stand-up is like.

Let's have him on this podcast because he is interested in that.

I would love that.

He did three Jackie Chan movies.

20 million each for the last two.

And then he's been a little mysterious in his own lane, but then he came out recently and is doing something.

Kind of an interesting move to turn down 20 million for something for literally anything.

And then

my OnlyFans, when it hit 20, I thought I'd stop, but I'm a dick.

You get now you just do it for the passion.

No, I just do it.

Oh, you know who's on?

Amanda Bynes.

You know Amanda Bynes?

I was on the Amanda show back.

I know that was a trick question.

I'm only telling you this because

she announced it yesterday, but she said, which is smart up front, it's not going to be sleazy stuff.

Sure.

It'll be my day and stuff like that, which is still interesting because she's very interesting, but it's 50.

So

I did a little stutter step.

Yeah.

Is that a lot?

Or I don't know.

Only fancy.

I would say that seems high.

Hi.

Now, you wonder why they're all making $20 million a year.

I don't know how.

Yeah.

But it must be a volume thing.

But

Amanda,

who you worked with Wayne.

Now, how old were you guys then?

Yeah, it was my first job, literally the last week of high school.

I got cast on her show.

And so we worked together for like three weeks then.

And then I went away to college and like I didn't have an agent anymore.

I was focused on school.

And they called me back to do more.

And they helped me get an agent.

Like being on the Amanda show kind of like started my grown-up acting career.

And we were friends.

And then we did a movie together, Big Fat Liar.

And she was the best.

It was a very important relationship to me in my life.

And yeah, she's.

Was she like, how old were you when you started?

What's the Amanda show?

Is she like 11 or like really young?

She's she's 14, 15 when she, when she was.

And then she got movies.

And that was one of the movies she did where like the She's the Man was one, of course, I remember.

Is that what it's called?

She's the Man?

The soccer one?

Yes.

Yeah, exactly.

Channing Tatum.

And hilarious.

And I always thought she's so great.

So she's one of the most talented people.

I think she's one of those people everyone pulls for, like Brittany.

Like,

it's a very tough world out here in Showbiz at whatever level.

And they were a high level.

And

she's that age, too.

Like to be at a full, like Lucille Ball, Carol Burnett dynamic and

had the good, you know,

she's truly one of the best.

Right.

And she's good at it.

Good at it.

Funny, very cute.

Yeah.

And it's just such a weird world out here.

And when they're young, you're right.

You just don't know.

Ariana,

Timberlake.

Yeah, oh, yeah, Ariana.

She's a talent.

Well, I was going to ask you because you think, okay, high school senior, and then you go do that.

Like in the, in the sort of neurosis, fear, paranoia, whatever, how are you mentally navigating show business?

Like, were you super scared getting on SNL?

Or you'd done so much that you maybe were more confident?

I'm just curious.

Yeah, like I started auditioning very young.

Like, I think I was five years old when I did my first commercial audition

and fortunately was not successful at all.

I'm Terrence Sag Aftra.

I love milkshakes.

Yeah.

Your mom took you four, six, Sag Aftra.

Slightly.

Buckwold and Associates.

That was Bucklet.

Is that really what it was?

Oh, yeah.

Sutton Barth and Veneri.

But, but, so, like, was always adjacent and enough exposure, but, um, but without without any of the trappings of success, thank goodness.

All the hassle.

No worries.

Yeah, all that and all that work.

20 million.

Yeah, still working.

Yeah.

And then in high school, I went to the performing arts high school here in LA, Loxa.

And so started doing theater and really loved musical theater in particular and was going to college for musical theater.

And then in that sort of like...

reconnection with the Amanda show and getting representation, I started auditioning again and on a fluke got mad TV when I was 19.

Oh, that's right.

Yeah, like, like, just like doing lots of impressions of WB stars and stuff like that.

And then, and then my characters were just impressions of my teachers, you know, that I didn't like.

Who's on with you that we would know right around then?

I was there for Sasso's last year and

Alex Borstein.

And then I was with Moe Collins.

and Michael McDonald and Stephanie Weir,

Andrew Daly.

Artie had come and gone already.

I I was like the seventh season.

So I was like kind of deeper, deeper in

and was just in way over my head.

And like, what is this?

And SketchGone,

I'm a theater actor.

And then loved it so much.

And so many of the people, particularly on the writing side that I love, like Michael Hitchcock and Jennifer Joyce were Groundlings people.

So I left Mad TV and started taking classes at Groundlings.

And kind of then had my eye on the prize for SNL.

Did that help you knowing a little bit about it?

Was it similar?

Yes.

SNL and MAD TV,

in that they're like, yeah, just in that they're sketch comedy shows.

But I think, you know, where Mad TV probably had a lot more chefs at the top level, SNL has Lauren.

Yeah.

You know, and I think that that's probably the biggest chef.

Oh, he's got an aura.

I just have to back up for a second.

So you're going to high school.

You tell your parents, well, yeah, I'm going to go to high school.

And you were living in Big Bear, right?

That's right.

So, okay, Ray, where do do you want to go?

I want to go to a performing arts high school and I want to pursue musical theater.

And you knew this at 17, 18.

And they went.

Yeah, I mean.

And they were in support of it.

No, if anything, my mom was encouraging of it.

She kind of, you know, her great uncle was Robert Stack.

And her cousin David Bow is an actor.

So she knew.

We just on February 27th.

If you can't do the Yamavar Studios, Chris Tucker turns down 20 million no one knows why yamavar studios but i love anyone who does an impression not not well and just says the name i'm robert stack you know and you kind of hypnotize people i guess it does help i guess it's good you know why are we saying it like that's the first thing that was will forte robert stack he did that in his audition he said one of his audition moments for snl was Hello, I'm Martin Sheen.

And if I don't sound like myself, it's because I have a cold.

But if you do think I sound like him, great.

And that was the whole bit.

Well, that's Will Forte has his own lane at SNL.

He's got his own man.

He's the potato chip sketch.

He was surprised how big a fan I was of

that sketch where him and Sedakis go shithouse over a bowl of potato chips and just full tilt commitment to drama and crime.

Because he thought he took one of his potato chips.

It's anyway.

It's just Bill Forte.

The best perk of the job is going on the server and seeing like cut for time sketches.

And he had a sketch called Finders Keepers.

It was a season finale and Alec Baldwin was the host.

And Baldwin is coming back from the beach.

And he's like, where's my car?

I just parked my car here.

And Forte has a metal detector at the beach and he's sitting on the hood of his car that's covered in sand.

And he's like, sorry, buddy, Finders Keepers.

And Alec goes, what are you talking about?

That's my car.

Get off the hood.

And I think there's three lines of dialogue in the full exchange.

And then Forte launches into a full song called

Finders Keepers, Losers, Weepers.

It's the law of the beach.

And

the whole sketch is just this song explaining the rules of Finders Keepers at the beach.

And is he

giving me so much joy?

And it went to silence.

It was pretty quiet, I think.

Thank goodness.

The nice thing about a musical sketch is the music's playing.

It seems loud, like things are happening.

There's some decibels being achieved.

Some decibels happening.

Yeah.

How sickening when it doesn't work.

yeah the worst is when you go in there like that's for a short cut but you still walk in the room like this huh

yeah yeah yeah

one percent hopeful like

do they think it was so funny that no one laughed they should do a

short film of people coming in because now they're back on into lauren's office and and they glance over and you can tell by their attitude that their sketch is to the right

and the camera in the wall dana yeah when we walked in

and my first time they opened lauren's office i don't know how they do it now but we wait outside It's so thirsty and gross.

Yeah.

And I had my Yakov, Smirnoff outfit on my first, my first update.

And Dennis was in there.

For some reason, Dennis was in there.

And they opened the door.

And I see like Downey and them all pouring out.

And Dennis puts his hand to me and goes, You can take off the beard, Spud.

And I was like, What?

And I walk in there.

My thing is moved over.

Oh, sickening.

Is that helpful?

Is that a nice thing?

No, I would have found out in three more seconds.

You by that.

Yeah, you can lose the facial hair at this point.

Just no one connecting eyes tells you something.

I never housed more handfuls of popcorn than with a cut sketch.

And small talk.

So who's the host next week?

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, act like you're not hurt and kind of clock hair sketches.

Great.

Yeah, part of the process.

Not personal.

Part of the process.

Wayne's World Cold Open stayed in.

Oh, good, good, good.

No, I wanted to see it again.

Good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good.

Yeah, I got caught.

If my stuff was cut, I just just walk slowly over to Lorne, get right up into Schnaz and go, seriously, dude, I don't think so.

Come on,

let's move it back over.

Worst mistake.

You know, that reminds me when I tried to get a manager.

It reminds me of that scenario.

And I got Gerbits.

But back then, Dana, we have the same manager.

And back then, it was between him and someone else.

And he goes, and do the right thing.

Just call him.

You know, it's always do the right thing.

By the way, I never want to do the right thing again because the right thing never is like the fun thing.

And he goes,

I wish I could have texted him.

But now he goes, just call him.

He's a big boy, you know, and just, hey, it went another way because you never know.

You know, I said, hey, man, I, you know, it didn't work out.

I want to try out this other guy.

Who knows?

He might suck.

And, you know, whatever.

And the guy goes, you just made the worst fucking mistake of your life.

And I was like, God dang.

And that scarred me forever.

I was not ready for it.

And I was new in showbiz going, I don't want to make any enemies.

He goes, he's a big boy.

He was not a big boy.

He's a small boy.

I still feel guilty about that reaction I had with you.

Manager was David Carvey.

It was a, it was.

Those breakups are hard.

I had one of those too.

And I got what I got was like,

well, yeah, hey, you know, like, like I'm,

like, I had to break up with someone I'd been with.

And he's like, you know,

listen, people get jobs and they like to move on and shake it up.

And some people stay loyal.

And that's okay that you didn't want to go.

Oh, he threw that in the end.

And they throw in.

We just had a kid.

I have children.

Am I going to be here?

Have you seen a picture of my baby?

That's my response.

And my house.

Here's my child.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And here's my chart from my doctor.

I'm going to put him on.

Ooh, here's the.

Yeah.

Tell him.

You tell him.

I can't.

Yeah.

Break his heart.

Hello, Mr.

Spade.

I love you.

Oh, thank you.

Listen to me.

Never miss an episode of Lights Out.

I would just say.

Lights Out?

That's funny.

Everyone loves Lights Out, but I said never name a show that makes it easy to cancel.

Hey, Lights Out.

Sure.

Yeah.

Lights Out for Good.

I want to do a show that's like seventh season.

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No, Dana's positive.

Deadwood?

Deadwood is good.

There should be one called Dead on Arrival.

That's a good one to critique.

DOA got resuscitated.

Dana's got Critics' Choice.

Critics Choice,

my special from the 90s.

I just called it Critics' Choice.

There was no online, nothing.

And so my sister would call me.

It'd be in the TV guide or whatever.

You got Critics' Choice again, man.

Congratulations.

Awesome.

Critics Choice four stars.

Yeah.

Me and my siblings know the Ross Perot scat.

Like,

can I finish?

Can I finish?

Can I finish?

Can't a finish.

That's funny.

Like, we knew that we had a fish.

Can't a tune of fish.

Can I get a tuna fish?

No, what do you want?

One time.

If you want to make it, I distilled it to Ross Perot's James Brown.

Can I come in on the one?

Can I come in on the one?

Can I come in on the one?

Yeah, it is just a song.

But, you know, to that,

one of my favorite impressions all time

is your Matthew McConaughey.

And I felt the first time you saw it, then the second, I saw it a second time, and then you were so

in the

blessed soul.

Did you audition?

Praise from Caesar.

Praise from Caesar.

Sorry, Dan.

No, it's better than even a great impression.

It's like a character.

It's an extrapolation into a character.

And you had so many hooks.

And I wish we could just play it right now because.

Oh, thanks.

Don't you get reaction to that?

I haven't seen anyone.

People like that.

Yeah, people like that one a lot.

That came out of, because everybody has a McConnehan.

Like, it's pretty productive.

I like yours.

You own it.

I mean.

It was watching True Detective.

I was obsessed with that first season of True Detective.

And they were so indulgent.

Out there in the stars.

celestial, bing bang, shoot brown.

What do we do when we're cosmic light?

You know, it's just like him just like

one guy.

Yeah, he's all these hippie references and all these little sound effects.

Yes.

And it's, and, and when he won the, when he won the Oscar maybe for Dallas Buyers or whatever, he's like, talking out there to my wolf pack,

hunting groups of us, primal, getting the meat, roasting on the spit, on the fire, but there's plenty of spots for people to come around.

What are you saying what are you saying

um it's fun but it but like it he's always so positive too i always liked doing like like positive energy ones because like i i would struggle if it was a criticism you know or if you were like no it's if it was a takedown it's a little bit harder and that was so fun because he was just being full uncut authentic mcconaughey

And I remember writing that one.

That's one that like, you know, you sat down for 30 minutes and improvised 50 different wild lines and like people responded to it and then spent six hours and didn't go home and slept on the floor for my grape stomping sketch or whatever and of course that tanks at the table

yeah i heard about that people

it was a bad one it was it was infamous it got out here right all right i was terrible at pitching too i i i was really bad at the pitch And I actually did,

because I have like a small role in 12 years a slave, which doesn't make sense.

I remember you jumping up in that sketch performance.

I remember that.

It was like, hi, I'm Sarah.

Cameo.

Hey, did you have to, all right, what are we doing here?

We're stealing liberty.

We're entrapping people, regressing, making America great again.

No, but I, so I did a bit for almost an entire season where I would start to pitch the host on an idea.

I was like, well, you know.

I know you're in a movie with a plane, so that's great.

And I thought we could play pilots.

Because, you know, when I was in 12 Years a Slave, what I found about the process that was most rewarding, and then I'd go real indulgent.

And it got some chuckles at first, and then it was terrible.

And then Brian Tucker had to tell me, he's like, don't do that anymore.

Don't do that.

Lauren has said something.

Don't do that anymore.

Why is she doing that?

It's funny.

I mean, she's like, yeah, I don't understand all that.

That place can be a little bit more.

It made Chrissy Teigen uncomfortable.

By the way, when you did Ted Cruz,

I don't think I was hosting that time.

I think

I was doing Fallon, and then Lauren said, and you'll do Church Lady.

You know, he tells you it's a Thursday.

I thought I was free stairs.

You'll be in the outfit.

You'll wear the church lady wig.

You wear the dress.

You'll wear it on the flight.

You'll do clever put-downs.

And Lauren,

I know how to go.

But then the interesting thing about that was that Daryl came on and did the Trump that we all knew before the new Trump, which was great.

I love it.

And Daryl was Trump, looked like Trump, incredible Trump.

But then Trump in 2016

just came in with all these these different hooks, you know, and all the stuff we see today.

And so that's why he didn't, he sort of felt bad when he did

Trump.

Well, it was old.

It was Trump from the 90s, you know.

It was just very, it was none of the, we're going to do this shit, all these different hooks, and we're going to, we're going to do it, we're going to do the bragging, you know, it was all kind of new.

Yeah.

My favorite Daryl one was the Domino's Pizza commercial.

He would do this commercial ones.

Yeah.

Like, here's what we're going to do.

I'm going to tell you the thing.

And they say, oh, Mr.

Trump, can you focus the camera?

I think I'm going to focus the camera.

I think that was a good idea that I had.

Like, it was all that bluster.

And James, which I just, I just like, I think James Austin Johnson is just a full genius.

Like, it's a, I would watch his videos before he was hired too.

He was talking about Scooby-Doo and stuff.

I would say, for people who might get the reference, he's the Miles Davis of that impression.

It's better than an impression.

It's got so many, it's like jazz that you're missing all the hooks.

But Daryl's.

We did a charity event together where he did karaoke as Trump and is just freestyling in between versus, and it's amazing.

He's good at impromptu as Trump.

He's so good.

Very hard to do.

Yeah, you can give him any TV show from the seven.

When he was on our podcast live in Texas, he just, any, any, the Brady bunch.

And then he's right on Trump.

He knows that so well.

Peter Brady.

Peter Brady.

He likes to criticize himself.

He's doing it to get friends.

I don't need to do that.

No one wants to criticize Trump.

Yeah, yeah.

But Daryl's feelings were hurt because they went with Alec Baldwin.

But I said, that's just a totally different idea and choice.

And so it wouldn't be a competitive thing.

It's just like that was just, you know, I think.

All right.

But what a weird thing.

Start off with a cast member or start off with a big star.

I think that's when Lauren finally was like, that a cold opening with a big star guaranteed that's not the host

is helps.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Is it fair?

We don't know.

It helps.

Well, did that did that start?

Because I just went and did Biden and before I did it, I made sure it was Steve Hook.

And this, I swear to God, I would have backed out.

I said, does anyone want to do Biden on the cast?

And be honest with me, because Mikey Day was doing whatever.

And he said, no, no one wants to do it.

Trust me.

So then I did it.

But this thing, this thing of like,

you know, older cast members and movie stars coming in.

did you have some of that or when did that start it's gone below it's gone beyond a launching platform it's it's now an institution and you have to maintain an institution and there's a quality to that right i i can have bob lify do do the uh the state attorney general or i can have like matt damon um

listen i mean i there's there's so much to to speak to to the the brilliance of lorne you know having just celebrated the 50th which was like like such a joyful weekend other than your absence that was probably the biggest blemish hey man i'll just say it i'm just gonna say it 60th that's all i'm gonna say 60th you already booked a hotel book tickets

we'll use we'll use filters you'll get you'll get your neck whoopie taped back you have to use real glass that's the but yeah i i i maintain just to start the conversation that no one else could have done what laurene's done and there were so many episodes of satur night live intrigue or whatever where the masters in charge basically would say, you got to do an hour.

You got to pre-tape it.

You got to change the theme.

So Lauren stayed with the brand, but also was

very flexible with the brand.

You know, as it changed, the culture changed.

So go ahead.

What were you going to say?

No, I completely agree with that.

I think that's right.

And I think that

one of the many aspects of

his

insightfulness as a producer is,

you know you got to get people talking about you and and if they're not talking about it then then it's it's wasted air a little bit you know what i mean so i think like a baldwin hire gets people talking about it gets eyeballs now you get it

yeah too late way we were in the analog stage early analog that it was just a small bulletin board with a few letters on it and now it's blasted on youtube so yeah the the the paradigm is shifted will evolve with the moment yeah well i mean something i love about your podcast and and any sort of like s and l focused podcast is it's this free therapy you know what i mean to be like was i a weirdo was i okay no there's at least five more people that had a similar feeling or experience and then and then also inversely like oh no i was probably a weirdo about that aspect of the show um but the i'm really enjoying the lonely island seth meiers podcast too because i i for the same reason but i also feel that those guys the lonely island

will never get as much credit as they really deserve for

adapting the format for a new generation.

Right.

Like that's probably the biggest change to speaking to what you were talking about, Dana, of like,

you know, maintaining quality, maintaining its brand identity.

And yet now there are four guaranteed pre-tapes per episode.

There's a full studio.

Yeah.

And they'll get the hosts.

We'll do pre-tapes on all day Friday.

Get them up at 6 a.m.

and do a whole pre-tape all day it is hard sketch but so that is uh yeah and andy and and his his lazy sunday was the beginning of going wait what is this and then and you realize right away oh my god this is what plus he's a good looking dude everything hit it was like cool good looking video then people start watching it you're like they're watching it where like that was beginning of youtube i think

yeah no i think you're exactly right in terms of like an injection of relevancy, no one has had a more direct effect

on the show in the last year.

I got to get to know Andy better just doing the

Pete.

You know, you need a good-looking dude in there that

younger people kind of go, oh, why would I watch SNL?

Oh, okay.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They need a reason.

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It's really smart.

I do love musical pairs.

I would love to be in one.

I just do love when Andy's, even the stuff he did recently.

Not even, the stuff he did recently was fantastic.

And it is something fun.

Were you in one of those pre-tape?

The anxiety video is so smart.

And he did it for the 40th.

It was great too.

The breaking video about people who break.

They're incredibly smart, but enjoyful.

I love those guys.

I respect them so much.

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I have made it.

I have arrived.

And I had like one off-camera line in a video called Booger Man.

There you go.

That's SNL.

You know?

Yeah, yeah.

It's like, okay, all right.

They're not all, they're not all lazy Sundayers, but.

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Taryn, when you, when I left SNL, it was sort of decided toward the end of the season when Adam and Farley left.

It was a little weirder, like vague,

where I had heard later they were fired.

I didn't even hear it from them.

I heard it like two years ago.

And when you left the show, what is the way you get information?

Is it direct from Lorne?

Is it...

Is it an agent calls an agent or business affairs?

How does it work?

Yeah, my manager at the time called me, but they were, they were doing the Marty and Maya variety show during the summer.

And I was directing a film that summer.

So I was in Canada.

And I

was

wisely or unwisely, like ready to move back to LA, ready to be with my family, ready to kind of be done with the schedule of the show.

And I think probably have made it known, not always in the most gracious of ways.

And they asked for like an extension that summer.

They said, hey, we need more time.

We're producing Marty Mai before we made our decisions.

And I pushed back.

I said, like, no, tell me now or let's be done.

And through people, it was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

They're doing it for everybody.

They're doing it.

And

so we said, okay, with some caveats of other jobs and like clearing my post-schedule for editing the film and blah, blah, blah.

And they, so we said, okay, two-week extension.

And then three weeks goes by and you don't hear anything.

And then, and then like in the fourth week, my manager calls and goes, like, I think I've got good news.

Um, and they've decided not to pick up.

You're not going to use that phrase to me.

I mean, at least you're ready to go and you're not totally blindsided, like moving back to, like, I would move home every summer back to LA.

Yeah.

Lose the apartment, everything, because they just would not tell you.

And they wouldn't say, of course, but it's a technicality.

They were like, we have no idea.

And they wouldn't, you know, encourage you to say

you're coming back just let us you know so

but that is a weird process because dana might i mean i don't think dana had this exactly but they dana still has rose petals stuck to the bottom

oh my god once the came out you know

it anchors the show i mean you know but anyway i just wanted to say that um We've talked to people recently who just auditioned two or three times.

And these are great comedians to get on SNL and really feeling such regret that either they pushed at their audition.

And so then when you look at you, you with a baby and a movie, and you'd already, you're already in the Hall of Fame in my money,

six seasons, you know.

So it was just odd because you probably would have maybe, maybe done one more or not, but it sounds like

on the fence.

And so

six was enough for me.

I mean, everything you just said, Dana, means a lot to me.

And I'm very grateful to you for saying it.

I've done the work.

I've made peace.

And I've also really been able to take more responsibility for my participation in that, in that I got what I asked for, quite honestly.

And it's not fair of me to go like, you know, yeah, but I didn't want it in that way.

No, because the truth is, if it's between like two cast members and they're like, you know, this would kill the one guy and you have one foot out the door.

They're like, I think he'd be fine with it.

Yeah.

And we just move on.

It makes it easier.

I do think, I think so.

There is sort of, well, it's a very, it's such a bizarre psychosocial dynamic, just for every reason.

And Lawrence said that part of his aloofness was to protect himself, you know, because everyone would want to go in and what about this and that and so forth and so on.

So, but I just see it run as a total success, obviously.

I mean, it's like,

I don't even, I mean, how many people really got on there, really landed and had reoccurring characters?

And it's hard.

Do you take, you know, I would imagine kind of happened with me where you're so burned out, but after a month or two when the show's back on, you get your legs back and you're like, it would be fun to go in.

But you also, you realize don't think like that because it's the day-to-day new host.

What are you writing?

What do you got?

If you could pick and choose when you came on, that's different.

But man, every week is just such a stressful stressful growth.

Well, I would put this in the ether because you were just there.

And I think you should come on and do Matthew McConaughey for a reason that he, you know,

lit off a firecracker or something.

You know, I think that.

Yeah, I mean,

being back for the 50th was truly like healing and joyful.

Like it was, it was really positive.

And I have to assume.

almost everyone like me went in with your defenses up, like your dukes up a little bit.

And from word one, it was just like appreciation and reflection and gratitude and, you know, swapping stories.

And then Mulaney put me in his musical piece for one line, which I was not expecting.

And that felt

a rat costume.

What was the costume?

Yeah, yeah.

It was Pizza Rat.

Were you Pizza Rat?

That's great.

I was Pizza Rat, man.

We were there.

That's history now, man.

I think it was Halloween as Pizza Rat one year.

Spade had, and I've heard multiple people say this now, and it was true from the first blocking rehearsal.

Spade had the laugh of the entire show.

Oh, I love you saying that.

Well, Dev, we've heard this.

It's factual.

It is factual because I was in that sketch.

So I watched it when we're like rehearsing downstairs, not even for cameras.

And I got a feel for it.

Everybody laughs.

We do it in front of camera.

I've got it.

Every crew member laughs.

And that's always the best indicator if something's going to work.

Oh, man.

They've just seen it all.

And they're so, yeah.

And every, there was not a time you delivered that line that it did not get a full-voiced laugh from everybody in the room.

It was

the show live and I remember how funny that was.

And then I didn't know if Milani could quite hear it, but there was this other secondary laugh that's on the soundtrack.

You know, the audience is because it's so dry and weird and quirky and so unexpected because the musical is so effusive.

And there's one guy which just in the stand and it goes on forever.

We got

it.

Yeah, it's funny.

So many setups.

Every part of the stage.

So you're not the only one who said that.

And writers, Higgins told us, all the writers, that was their favorite line of the whole 50s.

So there you go.

David, listen to

even get a line, like you said, to even be in that sketch because you're in nothing when you land.

And I said, Higgins, don't worry about me.

I'm coming.

I'm not.

And then Mulaney goes, Hey, Mulaney might want to throw you in something.

I'm like, done.

Whatever it is,

same thing.

So to get one that actually like that was super fun, and to be weird enough to go in the audience, and

yeah, but but also so tailor-made, like, there isn't a cast member past, present, future

that could have landed it as good as you like.

It was tailored to the point where people asked me after the fact, like, I'm telling you, in my own life, they're like, So, what happened?

Did he actually leave like during rehearsal?

And they came up with,

yeah, that was by design from David's burning.

It's his specialty that you know, not pushing it.

It's very lucky to have something like that where it would fit me because,

you know, also the pressure of going one line, they go, and Wally goes, you need a cue card for this.

And he's like rolling his eyes.

I go, I guess I don't.

He's like, you don't.

And I'm like, all right, I don't.

Like, and to over dissect it, like, it's

true to your voice.

No, I like, this is what we do professionally, but it's true to your voice.

It also.

It also breaks the fourth wall.

So it speaks to it being live.

It also speaks to the generate.

We're celebrating the generations and like this is your thing this is different from my time like it just was like perfectly constructed and layered i appreciate it and always got the biggest laugh i love it there you go that's a pretty pretty nice feather in your thank you it's only the 10

because that's the best

um yeah it is in the end of the day you know it just when we look back on our time there it i you know We never ever want to do a military analogy.

It's like being in the Marines.

Forget that.

But it is some kind of spree de corps because you can get humiliated on that show.

You can crush.

You can get any kind of emotion you can imagine.

And it's hard to get on.

And everyone wants to be on it in the comedy world.

And so I think I'm sure that was the vibe of the 50th.

Like anyone who did it and did it well, it's just respect.

You know, I think the 50th for us, the camaraderie is more akin to like, we were in.

the blue origin together.

The space thing that's just went on.

We've been in space for 12 minutes.

That's how tight we were, the bond.

Yep.

Yep.

Yeah.

So it's not the army.

We were all Katy Perry that night.

We were all Katy Perry.

The stress, the ups, the downs.

You have to buckle.

You have to unbuckle.

We had the training up.

Well, thank you, buddy.

Thank you.

Nice chatting.

Had a great time.

Yeah.

Thank you.

Thanks for having me.

Hey, are they going to pick up that animated pilot we did together or what?

Oh, yeah.

Tara and I did.

What was it called?

We were in a booth somewhere

doing this animated thing, and I guess it just didn't go, but it was.

It's not the TFA one, is it?

No, no, it goes back before that.

You were like an evil billionaire.

I was an evil billionaire.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It was precious.

There's so much.

I was hoping that's what this was about, was you telling me you got

the pickup?

Yeah.

Well, you're.

But this has been great too.

Yeah.

Just one last thing.

You're going to be in a show on ABC for the second season.

I mean, there's so much show business.

Obviously, understatement of the year, but yeah, everybody works.

Everyone's doing an animated thing or whatever thing, and no one knows what anyone's doing unless it's some massive, gigantic whatever, you know?

So, totally, totally.

Yeah, no, that's a high potential ABC.

Oh, high potential.

Okay.

And you got to do spam a lot.

Fucker.

Yeah, dude.

Dude, that was, that was

the best.

Well, and Eric was there.

Eric was there.

And like, when you first started rehearsing, they're like, well, he may not be around much and stuff.

And then we do like the first dress rehearsal, and he's backstage.

He's like, I think we can beat that joke.

I'm like, Okay,

okay, Python, yeah, just to be anything, anything you want, and you are perfect for that.

You are, you are, you that is your lane.

You can do that whenever you feel like it.

Musical Broadway, yeah, it was a beautiful marriage of like it.

Like, I don't, I think the first movie I ever quoted, you know, was Holy Grail

and

yeah, it's only a flesh woman, yeah, yes,

oh, yeah, yeah, I like it.

Bunch of legs off.

That's Legal.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Oh, great.

And then, yeah, having started wanting to pursue musical theater, it was really like this perfect marriage.

All right.

Well, in New York.

You're still incredibly young.

So you're going to have to do this for a long, long time.

Great.

Great.

David, do you have a final joke or something?

No, I appreciate talking to him, and I had a good time today.

Yeah, I admire you both.

I respect you so much.

I've been a fan my whole life.

So

rubbed elbows is a great honor to be able to do it.

Dana, we should be playing.

Thanks for all the free music right now.

Yeah,

while we say this.

Zoom hug.

Special thank you.

David Spade.

Dana.

Dana Carvey.

Tony McCartney.

All right.

See you, bud.

Peace out.

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Fly in the the Wall is executive and produced by Dana Carvey and David Spade, Jenna Weiss-Berman of Odyssey, and Heather Santoro.

The show's lead producer is Greg Holtzman.