Jack Black

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Speaker 1 Always funny, always upbeat, always in a good mood. And

Speaker 1 he lived up to all that today.

Speaker 3 Yes. And we happened to, in this particular case, interview him on the Monday after he hosted this banging episode on SNL.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 3 And then his movie, Minecraft, also

Speaker 3 gigantic smash. So he was in a really good mood.
He may be kind of in the legendary category because he's been around long enough, but

Speaker 3 couldn't be nicer, funny. It was just an easy, easy conversation to have with the great Jack Black.

Speaker 1 Yeah, fun comedian. I see him out and about sometimes, always seems

Speaker 1 up for chatting and laughing and just cracking up. And he's just out there doing whatever it takes and just always goofy on these press things.

Speaker 1 And everyone likes to be around him all the way back from school of rock. Just we went over a lot of his stuff and then just basically cracked up.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Anyway, enjoy the one and only Jack Black.

Speaker 5 Do you know how difficult it is to get a jean jacket that really works?

Speaker 2 In this day and age,

Speaker 2 very difficult.

Speaker 5 Because it'll be too big, too small. So

Speaker 5 I was at metaphorical cigar,

Speaker 5 New York Magazine Photo Shoot. And they go, here, try this jean jacket.
So I said, well, this looks like a good jean. So I walked off with it.
And then they found me. And I said, okay, I mean,

Speaker 5 is it okay if I, I mean, I'll pay you. But then they came back 20 minutes later and said, you can keep it $95.

Speaker 2 Wow. And how much for the glasses, the string that holds your glasses on your head?

Speaker 5 You got to get me one of those. These are 175s.
I'm supposed to go to twos.

Speaker 5 Oh, yeah. What are you at for up close vision?

Speaker 2 I am prescription, so I don't even know what they're doing. It's like one eye is probably different than the other.

Speaker 2 Up top is just like normal. Down here is for reading.
In the sunlight, it turns into sunglasses. These things are like super charging.
There you go.

Speaker 5 I need all that. I'm just too lazy.

Speaker 1 I go. That's where the money's going.
I go.

Speaker 2 Yep. All of my money goes to my optometer.
I go on Larchmont Optometrics.

Speaker 2 Nice. I used to live in near Larchmont.
Great group of ladies over there. It's all ladies at my

Speaker 2 optometry. I don't know what Jack doesn't even know we started.

Speaker 5 I'm kind of out of town. I'm not good at research, but I heard there's something.

Speaker 5 a couple things happen

Speaker 2 i did a little indie film

Speaker 2 called minecraft how did that do

Speaker 2 you know according to reports it's gone bonkers and the kids are going in there and just like throwing popcorn and just losing their minds i know it's it's like i've heard about this chaos it looks kind of like um

Speaker 2 like rocky horror picture show like there's a lot of participation these kids have they come in already knowing the dialogue because of the memes.

Speaker 5 You have to say it that way. Is that why?

Speaker 2 Why?

Speaker 1 I was thinking, did you see this coming?

Speaker 2 I would be lying if I said I wasn't a little surprised. I mean, I loved it.

Speaker 2 I saw it a couple of weeks before it came out and I was like, look, I like it, but what the hell do I know? I don't know. Hopefully people will like it.

Speaker 2 I like stuff and then it comes out and the reviews are just garbage and and I'm like what

Speaker 2 but and actually the reviews were kind of mixed on this one but it didn't seem to matter because the the kids have spoken yeah oh yeah they come to get them hooked in and out and now there's a trick and a fun thing to do yeah

Speaker 2 but then there's also a weird backlash where some of the theaters This is just news I'm getting from TikTok. So I don't know if this is true either.
I'm just kidding.

Speaker 2 It's going to be where there's talk of of illegalizing the movie because kids are going to two bananas throwing pops corn and if they don't stop throwing popped corn the movie will be illegal pops corn

Speaker 2 in there isn't it popcorn pops that's what the that's what the theater owner said um so listen i think it's good though

Speaker 3 Should it be illegal?

Speaker 1 This is a question everyone's been asking lately about this movie.

Speaker 5 It's

Speaker 5 controversial.

Speaker 2 Is it

Speaker 2 comes in? The chicken comes in. I don't think that's controversial.
Nothing we do in the movie is controversial, but the effect it's having on the youth of the nation,

Speaker 2 you know, it's creating concern. It's like, we don't want

Speaker 2 that kind of rowdy behavior. We can't condone that kind of bedlam.

Speaker 2 I'm saying it's so hard to get butts in seats nowadays. Yeah.
Just

Speaker 2 hire someone else,

Speaker 2 another popcorn scooper.

Speaker 5 I'm going to do a prediction that this thing's going to have a lot of multiple viewings. It's not going to be seen anytime soon on

Speaker 5 Amazon.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 5 You can rent it for $4.95 or buy it for $300. Oh, wait.

Speaker 1 Does it go somewhere after this? Because a lot of movies sometimes.

Speaker 5 Keep it in the theaters, man. That's my.

Speaker 2 Is it theaters? It's theaters only right now.

Speaker 2 I actually don't know what the plan is, where it goes after that for the secondary. And it's kind of cool that

Speaker 2 there's no plan in place, whatever you call it.

Speaker 5 Secondary, 168 million.

Speaker 5 You know, I'm just curious about this, like Nacho Libre,

Speaker 5 Napoleon Dynamite,

Speaker 5 Jared here.

Speaker 5 So what went right and how could this movie have gone wrong? And what were the choices it made besides casting you as the lead? That was good, from what I understand.

Speaker 5 I'm going to see it tomorrow. There's people who want really want to see it.
They don't even know I'm talking to you right now.

Speaker 2 I would say it's more like co-leads. It's me and Jason Momoa.
It's a one-two punch.

Speaker 5 Okay.

Speaker 2 We spend the first half of the movie being rivals. And, you know,

Speaker 2 it's a little bit of a competition for alpha dominance. And then over the course of the.

Speaker 1 And you are competing with him?

Speaker 2 That's where we flip the script. Because this time I'm the one who's seen that dude.
The badass, yeah, I'm the one with all the

Speaker 2 fighting skills, and

Speaker 2 he's the pretty face who's really actually terrified of this world.

Speaker 1 Oh, he looks funny in that eye.

Speaker 5 Do you guys have an enthusiasm off during lunch and stuff?

Speaker 2 Enthusiasm off.

Speaker 5 I mean,

Speaker 2 I saw him at the 50s.

Speaker 1 He's a fun dude.

Speaker 2 There was a little bit of a competition for who brought the most enthusiasm energy.

Speaker 2 It was never spoken. We never said, hey, may the best enthusiasm win, but he would come in with a lot of

Speaker 2 noise and energy with his motorcycle.

Speaker 1 Noise. Oh, he brings a motorcycle.
That's like cheat.

Speaker 2 Yes. And you would hear, like, he would have, he has a band and they would be jamming in his trailer very loud, right out of the gate.
And I was like, okay. Fine.
And then I got my little boombox

Speaker 2 Bluetooth speaker and

Speaker 2 I'd come in blazing whatever jam I thought was the right one for the day. So we were, you know, we were, we were battling for the hearts and minds of that crew.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you know music too. He shouldn't mess with that.

Speaker 2 You know what you're doing. Well, we joined forces.
We did a little jamming together.

Speaker 2 You know, it's, we're kind of simpatico. That's why I wanted to work with him because I felt like we're going to be.

Speaker 2 We're going to be two peas in a pod.

Speaker 2 He likes the same kind of music I like, and he's got a similar energy, even though he's, you know, a foot taller and all muscle. And women come running from the four corners of the earth to be

Speaker 2 disgusted to get a whiff of this guy.

Speaker 2 That's a little different than my

Speaker 2 clientele, but

Speaker 2 we still have

Speaker 5 some sexual energy. I mean, we can bounce around between the two,

Speaker 2 between you and the chicken.

Speaker 5 10 polls of the, I'm going to call

Speaker 5 Jack Black April or maybe contact my congressman or something. There should be some national creed because to, first of all, I have two questions.
One is, what happened 20 years ago?

Speaker 5 Because you came out and it exploded. And we can, I want to go over the show and what it was.
It was exceptional. So first of all, what happened 20 years ago? Because I did one that kind of sucked.

Speaker 5 And I could just say it in 2010, it just tilted wrong, you know, and

Speaker 5 I was pushing and it just wasn't good. So I have, I haven't been asked back, but what happened to you? How is Jack Black

Speaker 2 not?

Speaker 5 How do they go two decades without you on that show?

Speaker 1 Oh, you're saying on SNL?

Speaker 5 Yeah, 20 years ago I hosted it.

Speaker 2 And then

Speaker 5 so

Speaker 2 I don't remember you having a bad

Speaker 2 day on SNL. Exactly.
But I do remember seeing lots of great performers have a bad night on SNL because it's just part of the, it's the, it's the nature of the beast, right?

Speaker 2 It's a high wire act. It shouldn't work.
It's like,

Speaker 2 they put it and it's terrifying because it's like, wait, we're held together with scotch tape. And that's kind of the funnies you get to see a belly flop, potential belly flop because it's live.

Speaker 2 There's no. oat second takes and you want you almost watching it you kind of want to see some mistakes because that's there's nothing else like the funnest part Oh, you had mistakes.

Speaker 2 I had mistakes, and

Speaker 1 you had

Speaker 1 someone yelled from the crowd. That's not a mistake, but that's fun.

Speaker 2 That's definitely

Speaker 5 audio stage in the monologue because I said that guy got vertical, and I was never afraid for you physically.

Speaker 5 Because I almost killed myself many times in that place.

Speaker 2 I have some training. A lot of people don't know this, but I trained judo for a few years in my teens.

Speaker 2 So, the first thing they teach you in judo is how to dive roll. It's like a little mini tiger roll.
And it's been part of my on stage

Speaker 2 bag of tricks for kung fu panda, too.

Speaker 2 Yep, a little animated. People don't know I was doing the tiger roll in the recording booth.
No.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 1 I thought you had the little green dots on you, and that was really you, like you're running around.

Speaker 2 I had fun with that opening monologue.

Speaker 2 I did a little rock and a little

Speaker 2 diving and rolling. But if I'm honest with you,

Speaker 2 I was struggling with the cardio because I made the choice to run up those stairs. Yeah.
It wasn't actually my idea. That was more of a John Higgins idea.

Speaker 2 You know, Steve Higgins' son works on the show now. Yeah, yeah.
And he's great. He's hilarious.
And he and his partners in.

Speaker 2 Please don't destroy, they're like the new guys that make the hilarious music videos and videos every week.

Speaker 2 They were like shepherding me with my monologue section.

Speaker 2 And they thought it would be a great idea to run up into the audience and like have a marching band up there and then run down the other side of the stairs. And I got a little winded.

Speaker 2 So the main thing was just hold my wind.

Speaker 2 Did you have a whole show after that?

Speaker 5 Did you have any rest in that? Because did you like when you knew you were going back down the stage, you get a little bit of a rest? Because I was thinking about that. And it can happen.

Speaker 5 But when you said we got a great show, the flag never touched the ground.

Speaker 5 You weren't like, we got a great show. So I was impressed.
And I wanted to ask you about that fitness and some of the leg kicks and the little dancing. I mean, it was wild.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I didn't, I could have used a little more training leading up to it. Maybe I should have done the Ozempic or something to drop a few LBs.
That would have helped.

Speaker 2 But, you know, I just remember when Chris Farley would do his physical shit, he did stuff way more extreme.

Speaker 2 He'd be running like a wind sprint down the Letterman thing and lifting up people and throwing people. And he got winded and sweaty, but he never broke a stride.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 And I wish I had that kind of, I don't know, maybe. It was a home run.

Speaker 5 I mean, by the way, the monologue was like perfection for me.

Speaker 2 I love the entro. Who thought of that?

Speaker 5 Where you're going, I can't do it. I don't feel it.
That just gave me goosebumps when you went around.

Speaker 5 Don't, don't do that to me. And then you did that rhythm that you do, because I can't,

Speaker 5 whatever that little thing is.

Speaker 1 And a good song.

Speaker 5 And everyone knew it was on when you did, you turned.

Speaker 2 That was my turn. That was mine.
I wanted to do that turn where, and the reason I wanted to do it is because that was actually true. I do have a lot of fear.
And leading up to it, I was like,

Speaker 2 I don't know if I can do it. And part of me was wishing,

Speaker 2 wouldn't it be nice if I could just quit? I'd like to quit and not do it.

Speaker 2 And then I was like, I'm going to make that part of the monologue. I'm going to make that insecurity part of it.
And then the turn, like, no, I will write. I will host again.

Speaker 1 Because you see some love hosts go in there with some wispy monologues. I mean, there's like some minute 30 monologues where they're like, hey,

Speaker 1 here's a clip from my movie. And here's our musical guest.
I'm like, I get it.

Speaker 2 And then conversely, it was not that long ago that I think Dave Chappelle broke the record for the longest monologue, right?

Speaker 2 it was 20 19 minutes or something yeah 19 minutes cigarettes that's a that's you know like a quarter of the show

Speaker 5 when he's hosting you're like oh no my cigarette did lauren give you a thumbs up during the show or anything like during the show in between sketches

Speaker 2 or a little bit little bit a little bit i mean i i i uh i was pretty uh

Speaker 2 pace yourself jack yeah dude lauren said the funniest thing i don't think he was trying to be funny but after the rehearsal when he saw me do the tiger roll and he saw me doing that rocking number and he saw me sweating and wheezing and he said,

Speaker 2 I just want to tell you a story. This is not a good.

Speaker 5 No, that actually is good.

Speaker 1 I like it already, yeah.

Speaker 2 In the 70s, this is the beginning.

Speaker 2 We had

Speaker 2 Desi Arnaz on the show. That's all right.
And he was all, you know, he was getting up there. He was in his 70s and I wanted him on because I just thought, you know, yes, he's older, but he's an icon.

Speaker 2 And he had been on,

Speaker 2 you know, Lucille Balls.

Speaker 2 And I was like, yeah, oh my God, that must have been a trip. I'd love to see that.
And he said that Desi

Speaker 2 was kind of struggling. He wanted to do his Babaloo number.
That was like his trademark that he'd been doing, you know, live for decades. And

Speaker 2 Lauren was a little worried about it. You know, can he still pull it off?

Speaker 2 And he was doing it, but he could see that he was starting to sweat and really struggle physically while he was bubbalooing and he wouldn't stop.

Speaker 2 And then he looked closer on the screen and he's like, Desi's lips started to turn blue and he started to worry like, oh, he's about to die.

Speaker 2 And he like just pulled the plug on it and said, just go to commercial, whatever. And

Speaker 2 I was like, wait a second, are you telling me this story because you're worried I'm going to die?

Speaker 5 When did he tell you the story?

Speaker 2 Warren, I was a little worried. He was just warning me not to go too hard because if I went full heart as a motherfucker,

Speaker 2 I could.

Speaker 1 But you're a kid. You're 55, right?

Speaker 2 Exactly. It's like, you know, it's apples and oranges.

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Speaker 5 Don't you love the matching numbers? 33, 44, 55, still alive. 56, I'm in a fix.
57, I'm in heaven. 58, don't be late.
59, won't you be mine? 60, oh, 60.

Speaker 2 I had no rhyme for that one.

Speaker 5 But 55 is a cool age. I could, yeah,

Speaker 1 I like that. I mean, doing Minecraft, doing that is doing a movie grind every day.

Speaker 1 No one even thinks about it, but it's, I don't know where you're on location or whatever you're doing, but just to get up every day, memorize your lines, be on the set, take after take, heat, cold, changing.

Speaker 1 It's a beating lights.

Speaker 2 Yeah, working with CGI. Where'd you do it? We did it all in New Zealand in August.

Speaker 2 And that was a great kind of reunion for me with some of those crew members because I had worked in New Zealand on King Kong 20 years earlier.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah, that was the last time I hosted SNL, as a matter of fact.

Speaker 2 Oh, for King Kong. Oh, for Kongrang? And I did a King Kong song in my monologue that time 20 years ago.
King Kong song.

Speaker 2 Steve Higgins really helped out with that.

Speaker 5 King Kong Kong Song Song Song Song Song.

Speaker 1 Was that Naomi Watts? Yep.

Speaker 2 That was Naomi Watts. Oh, yeah.
And

Speaker 2 Adrian Brody.

Speaker 2 And you have to carry on Oscar.

Speaker 5 Yeah. You don't see him for a while, and then it's an Oscar.

Speaker 2 Yes. And he's great in that era.
Apparently, you know, you put him in World War II era. He wins Oscars every time.

Speaker 2 But yeah, I carried around one of those old-timey cameras and I was the film film director. It was really, yeah, it was heavy.
And Peter Jackson, he's a, he's a real

Speaker 2 stickler for authenticity.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 I thought you were going to say that. I'm like, no, no.
Give me a cardboard. One time on Tommy Boy, I had a briefcase and everything was too heavy for me.

Speaker 1 I'm like, guys, I'm just trying to float through this scene. I got a bad neck and they're like, all right.
And then

Speaker 1 I go, Fuck, what do you got in this briefcase? Baby's first bricks? And then I open it up and it's stuffed with files to make it real.

Speaker 1 I go, Listen, no one's looking inside the brief, I'm just carrying it. And they go, Okay, so the prop guy brings it back.
I go, Oh, it's light. And he goes, Yeah, we took the pulp out of the paper.

Speaker 2 I go, Thank you.

Speaker 2 They were being an asshole to me.

Speaker 1 I didn't, I didn't even catch it. I'm like, Oh, good job.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but it matters, lugging that every take, and you're on a mountainside or something. I don't know.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 um, but I had a ball, I had a ball in that one. I'm uh, I

Speaker 1 What's King Kongman up to?

Speaker 2 You still talk to him? Yeah, man.

Speaker 2 He's directing now.

Speaker 1 After the shoot, everyone kind of goes their own way.

Speaker 5 So did you go to the party? I mean, you seem pretty well put together.

Speaker 3 When did you crash?

Speaker 2 The after party?

Speaker 5 Did you go all night after all?

Speaker 2 I mean, no,

Speaker 2 I did go to the party. You have to go to the party.
But you're the host. You're kind of the host of the party.
I know.

Speaker 2 Went there and gave hugs to all my peeps and said hi to Lauren. Thanked him for

Speaker 2 the fun opportunity.

Speaker 1 Did you know Minecraft was killing at that point? Gave you a little extra time.

Speaker 2 Yes. It was kind of a great thing about being on SNL

Speaker 2 is that we had the movie was already doing gangbusters, so it was kind of like a.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 5 That will relax the hoax that they have this bohemoth as they come in in their back pocket. Like, I sure hope this

Speaker 5 thing goes good, but you know, we're probably going to be over, we're over 300 million right now.

Speaker 2 Sorry.

Speaker 5 I guess,

Speaker 2 you know, it's a wind, the wind beneath your wings

Speaker 2 carried me through.

Speaker 2 But it doesn't really matter. Look, it doesn't really matter because when you're on SNL, it doesn't matter.
There's no such thing as like a victory lap. You're still terrified of shit in the bed.

Speaker 2 So I was like,

Speaker 2 I was pretty,

Speaker 2 I was pretty amped and uh and ready to go, but yeah, there's a there's a fear factor as well, no question about it.

Speaker 2 When you're standing back there at that door, that back door, when they're counting down the 10 seconds, when

Speaker 5 genie just did it, it's just terrifying, Jenna.

Speaker 2 It's like

Speaker 5 this is so weird.

Speaker 5 One line goes off, or, or, or, or, you know, Liz, the director, if there's cuts between dress and air, and I told this, it's just like I really hit me how hard it is to know when to go where you're just seeing it for the first time yeah when do you cut off jack and then go there um i was just curious which ones blew up for you in your mind like we hit it because you want the air show to be we really hit it so love matches going viral oh and i thought it was inspired writing as well yeah and dismukes was really funny he really was mad at me it felt like i felt like he he's really mad at me it's great it's great

Speaker 2 and uh

Speaker 2 uh uh that one felt great. I got to say, I was impressed with all the writing.
I liked all of them. And even a couple of the ones that got cut, I wish they had made it.

Speaker 2 There was one that got cut where I was

Speaker 2 a father who wanted to come visit his sons, the divorced couple, and wanted to come visit his kids. And I had to confess, hey.

Speaker 2 I've been coming here every day pretending to be the maid, kind of like Mrs. Doubtfire style.
It was a really funny idea.

Speaker 2 and the confession that i was the doubt fire maiden but i was also from trinidad so it was really

Speaker 2 oh wait my

Speaker 2 my sports television just came on i turned that off uh you ever do that where you're

Speaker 2 okay no you hold it for an hour and then it kicks back on it was first take i like to hear the talking heads talk about the sports um

Speaker 2 the lakers Yeah, I'll do it for you. Luca.

Speaker 2 Luca brought it up.

Speaker 2 That's good. Yeah.

Speaker 2 hey while i got you i'm gonna turn the tables i'm gonna ask a couple questions um please do

Speaker 2 spade first of all i've read all your books spade um and when i say when i say i read them i mean i listened to them yeah and which is actually the way you're supposed to take in your books in my opinion because your delivery is kind of like half of the magic and i noticed you know that because if you want to buy your book it costs five bucks but if you want to listen to your book it costs 20 bucks it's like oh he knows.

Speaker 2 That's true. I didn't know that.
No, it's not that. That's not the cost spread.
I just noticed it. Cost me.
Yeah, I like it though. I want to hear the delivery.
Sure. And

Speaker 2 making me laugh very hard.

Speaker 1 I see Jack Black over the years, and

Speaker 1 he is as advertised. He's fun.
He's in a good mood. He's nice.
And the true stories.

Speaker 2 I've seen a couple laughs for sure. The true stories.

Speaker 1 I don't see him enough.

Speaker 2 So that's not really a question. I just wanted to tell you, I'm a fan of your readings, and I look forward to the are you working on another one? No.
No, you're done. You're like,

Speaker 1 no, I just did a special because the stand-up, it really is

Speaker 1 kind of podcasting sort of jumped instead of audio books. You know what I mean? Yeah.
I sort of told my life story. And then now when we do this, we just tell our same stories every week.
And then

Speaker 1 to do a stand-up special, same thing. It's like, just, it's all, it's all blurring and the same thing.

Speaker 1 People sometimes, I told Dana, I do stand-up, and then these nitpickers are like on my Instagram on Monday going, actually, I saw a part of one of those stories on Ellen a few years ago.

Speaker 1 I go, yeah, no shit, Sherlock.

Speaker 1 I got to scrape together a goddamn hour. And of course, I'm going to dig in anywhere I can.
I don't know. I don't want adventures anymore.

Speaker 2 No, I've made peace with the fact that I'm going to be repeating my same life stories over and over again in every interview for the rest of my life. It is what it is.

Speaker 2 I've made peace with it. I know I don't have my teens and stuff.
And I usually think, oh, I can't tell the same story because then people will go, oh, I've already heard it and turn up.

Speaker 2 Nine times out of 10, they've never heard the story or don't remember the story. Who the fuck cares? You just tell your story.

Speaker 1 And they like to hear it again. And you never tell

Speaker 1 nobody. I do my act and my, I was doing stand-up this weekend.
Oh, sorry, Jack. Just give me 20 minutes here.
I was doing stand-up.

Speaker 1 And I tell this and I go, I'm doing all this new stuff because I have to put together more material. And I'm like, give me my old juicy closer that fucking works.
Where, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 You go, why do I have to throw this in the garbage? And then you never get complaints if you do a bit that kills. No one's ever like changing it.

Speaker 4 I loved it, but I think I've heard it.

Speaker 1 It's like, good.

Speaker 5 When I see comics do this with a bit of 1983,

Speaker 2 Dana, I have a question for you. I have a question for you, Dana.
Now I'm going to turn the tables again. Yeah.

Speaker 2 It's your turn to be in the hot seats.

Speaker 5 It's like Connie and Moreau on Broadway.

Speaker 2 You know how, like,

Speaker 2 when when you host SNL, you get a little dinner early in the week, like a Tuesday dinner

Speaker 2 that Lauren hosts, but really you're hosting because you're the host. You're also kind of the host.

Speaker 2 You sit next to Lauren and you feel a little pressure to entertain the table because it's like you're the host. So I don't know, zingy, zingy, boom, boom.
And

Speaker 2 somehow we got on the topic of your appearance on Bill Maher's Real Time with Bill Maher

Speaker 2 and how you just didn't let him get a word in in edgewise, and it was the funniest on.

Speaker 2 I love, I like that show. I watched that show and

Speaker 2 I'd never seen anyone just take full command like you did. And I was uh, uh, yeah, we were all singing your praises.
Did you go, did you go on to Bill Maher real time with that plan?

Speaker 2 No, or did that just no, you just showed up and then he's just

Speaker 2 I, you know, if you're on a roll, it's better to not have any questions.

Speaker 5 I'm doing this stuff without an audience, and then snl doing biden it was a little i was part of a team and it's sort of like i came out and there are 80 people standing up with a lot of noise and so that just triggered me like okay i'm just gonna ride this wave and then i realized that you know bill we kind of got to know him he's a bit of a curmudgeon so you kind of want to You want to fluff up his hair and give him a hug, you know,

Speaker 5 you know, because you know, underneath there's a marshmallow there somewhere. Yeah.
But just rode the wave had a had a lot to get out of my brain i guess and but uh

Speaker 5 yeah it was it's fun when you just don't you just let you know it go you're not really thinking i had i was doing a truncated version of what i do on stage right now but anyway that makes me happy thank you well uh um do you do any music on your on stage act now oh yeah I've never stopped because in the honky-tonk bars,

Speaker 5 you know, clubs I used to play, the audience would start to fade and talk and they were drunk. Show us your dick.
And then there'd be the blender.

Speaker 5 So I started bringing an acoustic guitar up and fiddling around with it and playing chords and doing Neil Young and things like that, just because of the noise would get the audience like, stop talking.

Speaker 5 So yeah, I do like to play guitar at the end.

Speaker 5 I do different things like something you would do. I do a thing about a heavy metal guy who's angry at the microphone.
So he's walking away from it and really hitting these power chords.

Speaker 5 Then he goes toward it and then he walks back you know so i do stuff like that i love i love playing the guitar on stage but i do it just so just so your audience knows um

Speaker 2 uh i don't know

Speaker 2 dana i've told you dana but you were such a big influence on me early on when i was watching s and l and i saw you play that song uh the broccoli song broccoli yeah where clearly you were making the the the gag was that you were making it up as you went along

Speaker 2 but um I don't know if I'd ever laugh that hard. And just seeing like a song kill like that and be so fucking funny.
And also the reactions to your song of them just like drinking up every single day.

Speaker 2 Sigourney, we very well.

Speaker 2 Sigourney.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it was a big inspiration and a big, big reason why I started doing comedy music combos.

Speaker 2 So I don't know if you get that

Speaker 5 people coming up to you now and saying, you know, I saw you do this and I'm doing this, but that always shocked me. I didn't, I had not watched that sketch until maybe two months ago.

Speaker 5 I never watched anything, and I thought, Oh, that was pretty good, you know, because I am too self-critical,

Speaker 1 but it's it's you're like, What about it that people like it's funny to watch?

Speaker 5 Yell it out because I guess there's no joke. Uh, and your style is kind of rhythmic, and I don't know what you call it, too, but abstract

Speaker 5 and musical, really.

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Speaker 5 I was going to to ask you, what do you listen to? What do you?

Speaker 2 You know, it's funny. I'm glad you asked that because it's kind of my main thing that I do with my time.

Speaker 2 The content I like to put into my headphones when I go on my walks to get my steps so I can live longer.

Speaker 2 I like to listen because I realize I'm not listening to music at all. I'm listening to podcasts.
I'm listening to books. I want to listen to music again.
So I came up with this plan, Chrono Marathons.

Speaker 2 So you take bands that you already love, that you've loved all your life, but you haven't really listened to in a long time, and you go from the very beginning, their first album, chronologically over the course of their whole catalog.

Speaker 2 And it's a great way to just plug back into music. And it's the anti-like

Speaker 2 quick one song at a time, Spotify, or whatever that Pandora is where it AI picks shit for you. It's like, oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 It's reading my mind. Nah.
You take command and you listen.

Speaker 1 Fuck you, AI. Take this.

Speaker 2 It's going to sound really dumb, but you know, I did the classics, okay?

Speaker 2 I did the boring ones. No, wow.

Speaker 2 I started with, I think I started. Did I start with Pink Floyd? I think it was Pink Floyd.
Right out of the...

Speaker 5 Has there ever been a better album than Dark Side of Moon?

Speaker 2 Steely Dick.

Speaker 2 Yeah, weirdly. the very next one they did right after that.

Speaker 2 Because wish you were here. I think it's a better.

Speaker 2 It's a better record. It's a fucking great record.
But that's their window because before Dark Side of the Moon, there's great moments and like interesting.

Speaker 2 And like you can see, oh, I can see they're starting to get there. They're starting to figure it out.
But Dark Side of the Moon,

Speaker 2 it's just a bomb that goes off where it's like, this is the beginning of their real

Speaker 2 incredible window. Because then the next album.
I wish you were here. And then the wall, that to me is their window.

Speaker 2 The ones after that, people say, no, no, you got to put animals in there i say i think the window's closing

Speaker 2 it's good no there's good stuff but that way and it's cool to see all the bands you pick all of them they have a window where it's like yeah they're great and then the ending stuff there's some good stuff later but that you know and it's fascinating to to find that that juice because you go oh yeah i love billy joe when do you love billy joe because there's a window you don't love all of it there's some hot let me ask you

Speaker 5 i I want to ask you a Pink Floyd question just for a second. Are you part of the cadre of people who, if they have to nominate the best solo in rock history, they

Speaker 5 often,

Speaker 5 there's a lot of great guitar players, Beck and everybody, but David Gilmore and Comfortably Numb, that guitar solo, tone,

Speaker 5 choice of note, whatever you want to call it. Every time I hear it, I go, really? That's not human.
It's so funny. Yeah.

Speaker 2 It is. It is.
Yeah, he is definitely in my top three. I love David Gilmore.
Oh, good God.

Speaker 1 Comfortably numb is on which album?

Speaker 2 Comfortably numb is on

Speaker 2 the wall, of course.

Speaker 1 Okay, don't act like I'm saying.

Speaker 2 Well, I felt like it was a test. If I failed it, all of a sudden.

Speaker 1 It was a test. I'm like, oh, wait, I didn't want to trip him up.
But what about Animals, Jeff?

Speaker 1 It has a soft spot.

Speaker 2 White album.

Speaker 5 Don't get me going on the white album. I love it.

Speaker 2 Dane, I'll hold beetle with your Beatles.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 2 I was going to say, no surprise.

Speaker 2 The best chrono marathon you can do is the Beatles. But don't do that first because then you don't really want to do any more chrono marathons after the Beatles because everything sounds like garbage.

Speaker 5 Jeez, you're like my new best friend.

Speaker 2 It's too good.

Speaker 5 I know, and too varied. I mean, you know, I was talking to the guy who just produced

Speaker 5 Jimmy Fallon and the gentleman who just produced Elton John's album. I'm so sorry.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah, yeah, no, no. His name is Watt.
Yes. And Andrew, Andrew Watt, super nice guy.

Speaker 5 Hung out with me at the parties. Brilliant, really smart.
And him and Jimmy Fallon, oh, yeah, we love to be listening. We love them a lot, you know.
And I said to both of them, I just said,

Speaker 5 what do you think of that? They go, Abby Rhode, you know, have you listened to Revolver? And neither of them really were familiar with Revolver. Yeah.

Speaker 5 I mean, Eleanor Rigby,

Speaker 5 uh she's leaving home um

Speaker 5 and your bird can't sing yeah uh lennon's first song was uh was it

Speaker 5 girl or no one one of those lennony songs you know

Speaker 5 anyway so i i feel the same way i also i also zeppelin will come on sometimes on serious xm and i i go that shouldn't be allowed it shouldn't happen zeppelin is a weird one where their window actually was almost the whole thing they didn't have any any any

Speaker 2 the last album coda it was hit or miss there's there there's still still some crushing jams on that one but for the most part it's an insane like you do you do wonder wait did did they worship satan because how did they get

Speaker 2 so many great records and so many great riffs

Speaker 1 How long was that run, Jack, of Zeppelin? What was it?

Speaker 2 It's a nine-album run. It's a nine-album run.

Speaker 2 And right out of the gate, you got good times, bad times. One of my favorite songs of all time.
And

Speaker 1 is that purple apple?

Speaker 5 No, just John Bonham and whoever mic'd his drums or how they got the value and the connection between the snare and the kick drum.

Speaker 5 We talked with Bill Burr about this because he's a drummer and a drummer fanatic, you know, but that tone.

Speaker 2 Bill Burr, also great on Bill Maher. Bill Burr came out and really went straight at him.
Oh,

Speaker 2 that wasn't on his show. That was on his

Speaker 2 podcast.

Speaker 2 Club ran.

Speaker 5 Yeah, you're coming in with your smart ideas. You think you know all this fucking stuff.

Speaker 5 You're just an armchair athlete. You don't know fucking dick.
All right, Bill. I mean, I was.
Bill just.

Speaker 2 I love to watch him get roasted. It's great.
Yeah. But I really want to go see him on Broadway.
He's on Broadway right now with Bob Odenkirk, who we all know

Speaker 2 and have in common as a friend.

Speaker 5 Definitely

Speaker 5 to see Bob Odenkirk.

Speaker 2 Bilber was at the show.

Speaker 2 I think they just did their Broadway show, Glen Gary, Glenn Ross, and just walked over to 30 Rock because they were all, well, three of them were there because Kieran was there, Bill, and Bob.

Speaker 2 But I want to go see that.

Speaker 2 I'm going to find a, I'm going to find an excuse to fly out there. Jack, I killed it.

Speaker 2 Bob Odenkirk.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. It's so good.
It was so funny.

Speaker 2 You know, Bob gave me my big break because he put Tenacious D on HBO

Speaker 2 with yep little short films that would would play before mr show

Speaker 2 and uh that put us on the map and so i always i always uh

Speaker 2 thank my lucky stars that uh that's an eye for

Speaker 2 what was your movie that kind of boosted you up was it high high fidelity it was high fidelity that got me really going yeah that was in the game and that was because uh uh uh

Speaker 2 uh uh John Cusack liked Tenacious D. I always think it was him that pushed it through because he was, you know, the

Speaker 2 star, producer, and writer of that jam.

Speaker 2 He was a big head. I don't know he wrote it.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Well, he co-wrote it before School of Rock.
Steve Pink and D.V. DeVincentes.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 yeah, so that was before School of Rock. And that was

Speaker 2 a big one because at the premiere. for High Fidelity,

Speaker 2 at the after party, George Clooney came up, and I was with my mom, and he said, That was incredible, something like that. I can't remember what he said.

Speaker 2 And my mom just about shattered pants. It was like, I knew it was like, Oh, this is different.
This is a different dude.

Speaker 1 He was at a premiere of mine, and he talked to my mom, too. I swear to God, and my mom was fucking flipping up.

Speaker 2 He knows what to do.

Speaker 1 My mom just pushed me into a wood chipper. Yeah,

Speaker 2 yes,

Speaker 2 I mean, he's got the power.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, it was nailing it. He was right in the pocket, too.

Speaker 1 Trop Thunder, of course. The holiday is one that a lot of people love, the holiday.

Speaker 2 The holiday.

Speaker 1 How did you weasel into that one? Well,

Speaker 2 it was really out of my comfort zone.

Speaker 1 Isn't it like Jude Law?

Speaker 5 One of my wife's favorite movies. It's in her rotation every year.

Speaker 2 That's can't come.

Speaker 2 Kate Winslet.

Speaker 2 Dude, I fucked up and said Kate Blanchette when I meant Winslet.

Speaker 2 That's their fault, though. Their names are too similar.

Speaker 5 Yeah, that's not playing fair.

Speaker 2 But that was really

Speaker 2 the best part. It's like, yeah, how am I in a scene with Kate Winslet?

Speaker 2 And we're like semi-romantic.

Speaker 2 How did I get this part?

Speaker 2 But I was like, I'm going to roll it. She seems cool.
And she's cool as hell. She's not Snooty.
She's not Snooty. But she's

Speaker 2 definitely

Speaker 2 there's something in my mind that looks wrong with that picture. It's like, no,

Speaker 2 all these scenes should be how she's out of my league. Okay, whatever.
I'm just going to pretend like this is normal. And that was the acting was just acting like this isn't ridiculous.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And Cameron Diaz is a blast.

Speaker 5 I was never in that situation in a movie.

Speaker 1 They always put like a goofy comedian like us with some hottie and everyone's supposed to buy buy it. It's the best.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's so great.
They go, wait, what part am I? And I'm like, the part that the girl that falls in love with me. And they're like, oh, I got to reread it then.

Speaker 1 I didn't think that would be me.

Speaker 1 And you got your old Tropic Thunder, hilarious.

Speaker 1 Just running. I'm just running through these, Jack.
You've heard of them.

Speaker 2 Tropic Thunder, all I really think about.

Speaker 5 It's infamous at this point. I mean, infamous.
There's never been a movie made like it before.

Speaker 2 Somewhere there there with these best comedies you know it's yeah danced outside the lines that's how we say it oh you were blonde here and that that's handsome blonde but robert downey jr got an oscar nomination you don't hear about that very often in the comedies

Speaker 2 uh was it for that for supporting role in yes in tropic fun i didn't know that um

Speaker 2 ben stiller

Speaker 2 he really wanted to shoot that like a beautiful not like a comedy he wanted it to look like a gorgeous Oscar Nannima. And he got like the best outdoor cinematographer in the world

Speaker 2 whose name escapes me now, but he's a genius. Of course it does.
Sorry about that. I can't remember any names.
Just

Speaker 1 what about Casualties of War? It's probably that guy.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 They have those old, those old movies like that.

Speaker 2 Uh-oh. Yeah.
Casualties of War.

Speaker 5 They're not going to make you do it.

Speaker 1 You know, I think that's not as

Speaker 5 much as Casualties of War.

Speaker 2 do you do sean pen or michael j fox

Speaker 1 sean penny she's a vc guoko

Speaker 1 um clocky do you remember that movie of course i saw riley john riley was clark clark john c riley

Speaker 1 that was a weird pick for michael j fox to be in that movie yeah

Speaker 2 well he was going he was going for that uh

Speaker 2 that switcheroo well you know he'd have been known for comedies and he wanted to say hey wait a second.

Speaker 2 Let's just test the waters. Let me dip my toe in these other water.
You can't blame him.

Speaker 2 Sometimes it works. Look at Steve Carell.
Look at Steve Carell if you want to talk about going from comedy to drama. That blows my mind when some, and you don't know until you try.

Speaker 2 So why the hell not?

Speaker 1 It's fun to try.

Speaker 2 The worst that can happen is that you can be horrible and never work again.

Speaker 5 Do you get wounded easily? Do you read comments or reviews that you don't?

Speaker 5 Do you read them at all? And do you get wounded or you have a good attitude? Like, that's just that guy's opinion. Fuck him or whatever.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I read the negative ones. I skip over the good ones.
I'll get, I'll get, get the gist of it. And like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, good. That's, and I look for those bad ones.
I'll read every word.

Speaker 2 And I will like mutter to myself, fuck you, you fucking asshole. Who is that? Yeah, I do too.
Owen Gleberman or whoever it is. I'm not going to.

Speaker 1 Ah, guys from Entertainment Weekly.

Speaker 2 He hated me, too.

Speaker 5 Owen Gleberman, that guy's famous troll.

Speaker 2 I'm going to commit this name to memory. And if I ever see this reviewer on the street, I'll have some choice woods.
I've never followed up on any of them, but sure.

Speaker 1 Owen Gleberman is like, his review was a little harsh. He said, Tommy boy, this worthless piece of shit.
I'm like, hey, come on, that's a magazine.

Speaker 2 He didn't see that.

Speaker 2 No, he usually comments

Speaker 2 on pretty hard. Here's your review

Speaker 5 for Saturday Night Live. I have it right here.
Jack Black is nothing short of a miracle. He just saved

Speaker 5 season 50 of SNL. Over here, I have Minecraft.
Jack Black is exceptional. It's a performance that shouldn't be this good, but it is.
He owns every second of the movie. This is a Jack Black summer.

Speaker 2 Oh, man.

Speaker 2 Thank you for cherry-picking the good ones because I know it's a splat on rotten tomatoes. You had to go find those fresh ones.

Speaker 2 You found some fresh ones for me. Thank you.

Speaker 1 Well, on YouTube, it was combined to get 100.

Speaker 5 Here's a here's a 10 times Jack Black wasn't funny.

Speaker 2 It's got 48 million views.

Speaker 2 Is that really on YouTube? I'm sure that's real.

Speaker 2 No,

Speaker 5 I'll see it in the corner of of my eye. Was Dan Carvey ever funny? And I click off as fast as I can.

Speaker 2 Is there any evidence ever?

Speaker 1 10 movies David Spade ruined

Speaker 2 with his presence.

Speaker 5 That was made up. It sounded a little too real, though, because they do that.
That's the genre.

Speaker 5 Was this guy?

Speaker 2 48 million was a lie. 48 million was stout.

Speaker 2 But are you right?

Speaker 5 How are you emotional? I don't know if you have a therapist or anything, but like this big wish. And I know you've got this big life.
You're a mature adult person.

Speaker 5 and you see where there's highs and lows of a career and this and that. But where are you able to kind of like sit for a moment? I've done good.

Speaker 1 Do you have a both of yourself?

Speaker 5 Or are you a little numb right now, actually?

Speaker 2 I try to look for the one bad thing that's happening and focus on that. That keeps me grounded.

Speaker 2 You had to do this today.

Speaker 5 And why would you book this so soon?

Speaker 2 Couldn't you get a week? I'll tell you why. I was looking forward to this.

Speaker 2 I love you guys. And I've been hoping that we could get it together.

Speaker 2 I feel good. Feels good.
Yeah. A hit?

Speaker 2 I'm always skeptical, though. I'm like, can we just wait for a second before we go calling it a hit? What if it tanks next weekend? Let's see if this baby's got legs.
Talk to me in a couple of weeks.

Speaker 2 Okay, guys.

Speaker 2 I'm always

Speaker 2 stopped throwing.

Speaker 5 What's the number where you will just go, it's a hit?

Speaker 2 Like a billion or 500 million global box office?

Speaker 5 What's the number where you would go? Okay,

Speaker 5 because it's probably 350 by the by the end of this weekend, I predict it'll be

Speaker 2 here's the thing. I do have, I do have a little thing about numbers and math.
I do like to think about that.

Speaker 2 So I go, okay, if it costs $150 to make, and then you figure they probably spent almost that much on promoting it. So there's 300 right there.

Speaker 2 And then you go, okay, so if it goes, if you go to a theater and it makes the monies, if it makes 300 million, then is it broken even? No, because you only get half of that.

Speaker 2 The theaters keep half the money, so then you got to make double that. You got to make 600 million really to break even.
And then you go, okay, so 600, but so that's break even.

Speaker 2 So it's not really a hit until it's made more than 600. So you got to make like 700

Speaker 2 to think that it's really a hit. 700.
And that's a big monster number.

Speaker 5 Do you have gross points on the film?

Speaker 2 No, I don't.

Speaker 2 This might not be true, but my manager said, no, they don't do that anymore. Maybe that's not true.
Maybe, maybe she's just telling me that so that

Speaker 2 I don't feel jealous of Jason Mamoa. I don't know what Jason Mamoa's deal is.
Maybe he got the gross points.

Speaker 5 Okay, this is on entertainmentweekly.com. Jack Black foregoes salary for gross points on

Speaker 5 a

Speaker 5 Minecraft movie.

Speaker 2 Oh, man, I wish. Good Lord, could you imagine if I had pulled that gamble? I never bet on myself like that.
I'm always like, no, no, just make sure we get the money up front.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 And it's always like, you know, the taxes and the commissions and then the box office, it's like you're just running in water. So you can't ever get a brother get a dime.

Speaker 5 I mean, so it's a first-world complaint. I'm hard to get rich, but everyone hears it made a billion.

Speaker 3 Can I get a nickel, brother?

Speaker 2 No, we're not even profit yet.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 No, I'm a risky game.

Speaker 2 Give it up for Chicago.

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Speaker 1 All right, we'll let Jack go, but let me ask a couple wrap-up questions. Just 30 quick questions.

Speaker 2 I'll try to rapid fire. I'm not good at these.
I'm a slow guy.

Speaker 2 please don't rap fire.

Speaker 5 This one or this one series of questions. It'll be quick.

Speaker 2 All right.

Speaker 1 No, this is

Speaker 1 just want to say good job in Jumanji.

Speaker 2 I thought that was good.

Speaker 1 Oh, thank you. I like Jumanji.
Yeah. Jumanji was great.
And I go, I watched that and I go, I get why this is a hit. Yeah.
It wasn't even exactly for me.

Speaker 1 It's kind of for slightly younger, but I'm like, I get it. It's funny.
Yeah. It's cool, weird.
I like it.

Speaker 2 Glad they kept doing them.

Speaker 5 I'd say when you're not doing,

Speaker 5 you do drama.

Speaker 5 You're not doing drama, then I think it's an underrated commodity. And it happened on SNL.
I haven't seen Minecraft yet. But that

Speaker 5 you are fun

Speaker 5 and make people happy. So when I see you out there dancing and singing, I'm just happy and you're fun.
And I do think where the world is today or whatever you want to call that.

Speaker 5 It's just fun is underrated, you know, fun.

Speaker 5 And when you're having fun and you were having fun the whole show, I believe with the uh the indiana jones guy and the yeah whip uh the first play guy was that one so that was great too you know that was fantastic uh calling and i dry one that i like you know bass bass lake where yes keeps playing bass another one that was great one uppers was really funny for everybody Oh, yeah.

Speaker 5 Those camera angles.

Speaker 2 I was still a little sweaty from my monologue when we did that, though, I noticed on the close-up.

Speaker 2 But yeah, it was really funny.

Speaker 5 And it could have making love really started out and then really killed it with Brandy.

Speaker 1 What started with the Eagle noise?

Speaker 2 That was one-upping because we were one-upping each other with how socially conscious we all were, and it would make the Eagle noise. That one was really funny to me.

Speaker 2 It had like hints of Debbie Downer. You know what I mean? Where it's like the sound and then looking right down the barrel of the camera.

Speaker 2 It just works. It just works.
And it was well written.

Speaker 5 Well, to connect it to uh, people flexing uh to everyone else or what they're doing is so great, and then have the violence of chat, you know, take that.

Speaker 2 I mean, it was just that was inspired.

Speaker 5 I thought the writing was really first rate, I thought it was inspired writing. Um, the goth kid vacation really made me laugh, and you came in there.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah, that was a great pre-tape. We filmed that the day before, but um,

Speaker 2 but that other song, The Making Love, that was

Speaker 2 shit. I'm getting a phone call.

Speaker 2 Sarah Squirn.

Speaker 2 Sorry. Is it Sarah Squirmer? Editing.

Speaker 5 We have editing capabilities.

Speaker 2 Go ahead. Why didn't I? I should have done the thing where I where I

Speaker 1 turn off your phone.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Duh.

Speaker 5 You call Entertainment Weekly back.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Anyways,

Speaker 2 that making love one,

Speaker 2 we did it in

Speaker 2 the rehearsal before the dress rehearsal, and it was just, it was a hot mess. I was like, there's zero chance this is going to make it to air.

Speaker 2 And something happened where they just cut out a few lyrics,

Speaker 2 a couple stanzas, made it a little easier. And all of a sudden, it was one of my favorites of the whole night.
And that song really was like a catchy tune. And when.

Speaker 2 when uh brandy carlisle comes in at the end and sings her ass off i was like holy shit so it's kind of a funny thing that can happen where from the first rehearsal to the dress rehearsal, something can click and it gets to be a hundred times better.

Speaker 2 I know.

Speaker 5 And then it clicks and then it's on live TV and you're done with it. When it works, it's brand new.

Speaker 5 It really came together. You two floating in air and then Bowen and then

Speaker 5 her voice sounded so great. I just went, was it a lavalier mic or did they put a little bit of echo on it? She was just, well, she has one of the voices of our time.

Speaker 2 She actually does have just an incredible voice, but I've,

Speaker 2 yeah, they did a good job of micing her, but I think it is just her

Speaker 2 resonating chain back.

Speaker 5 I think The Joker. Chamber.
The Joker is one of the best.

Speaker 5 you know, kind of pop rock song of the last decade. And I've played it for people.

Speaker 5 You know, sometimes with people you're around, maybe YouTube's on, you go, hey, have you heard this song, heard that song? I've won stereo wars by going, have you heard this?

Speaker 5 And then they just go, they can't believe it. How brilliant the lyrics are in her vocal is crazy.

Speaker 2 So I think another one that deserves a shout out, because

Speaker 2 in the first read-through that we did on like that first day or the second day,

Speaker 2 there was this one for the

Speaker 2 flaming hot Cheetos and then the flaming hot commercial. Preparation H.
I laughed so hard in the read-through that I got a little bit injured.

Speaker 2 Have you ever had that where you laugh too hard and you pull a muscle in your ribs? And it made me like have to hold a different body position for the next two skits sketches. And

Speaker 2 I was really glad that that made it to air. But when I saw the final version of it, I was like, oh, holy shit.
You can see like the side of my butt cheek.

Speaker 2 This is really kind of way more intense than I had even imagined while we were reading it at the table.

Speaker 1 But they added so many graphics.

Speaker 5 Well, you've shown throughout your career that you're game for anything, like, you know, I mean, but I did see the side of your ass, and I thought, where is this going?

Speaker 5 How graphic is this going to go?

Speaker 1 Yeah, show more ass.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they didn't show hole, but they

Speaker 2 could ever want.

Speaker 2 We did the pre-tapes like the day before. Did we do those on Friday? No, I think we did them on Thursday, but it was a lot.
I mean, they fucking beat you up.

Speaker 2 It was on Friday, and it was, I remember it because I had to wake up at the fucking crack and do like

Speaker 2 almost a full day of pre-tapes because we did two. We did Preparation H and

Speaker 2 Goth Kid in Jamaica, which was also really two pre-tapes.

Speaker 1 Did you do that in read-through or do you, oh, you said read-through, but for pre-tapes, they don't just assign them. You actually read them and say, oh, they're working.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but they, you know,

Speaker 2 yeah,

Speaker 2 I was down. I like the idea of pre-tapes because even even though it's a long day, it lightens the load on the actual show.

Speaker 2 And they both crush. They both are great.

Speaker 5 Did you, I mean, your energy, did you ever like before the air show, were you in your dressing room kind of going, okay, are you like Fraser on the stool coming out in the 15th round?

Speaker 5 Or are you feeling really good? Because it's like

Speaker 5 the audience and the live element will bring a lot of energy, but it seemed like your energy was just perfectly up there all the way through the show.

Speaker 5 It It must have felt good because you don't know. It's like riding a horse and you go, do I have this? And you got it.

Speaker 2 You know what's weird is right before the show,

Speaker 2 a couple hours before actually,

Speaker 2 Donna, the lady, the real nice lady who dresses you and does all the quick changes is running all around. She said, is there anything you'd like to eat, honey?

Speaker 2 And I've got this feeling like that's what it sounds like right before you die when they say, this is your last meal before the electric chair, anything you want and i was like i i really have a

Speaker 5 a taste for like a an italian chopped salad no onions you got it babe we're gonna get it for you i know i love when they're calm backstage but when i was there with with maya and everybody everybody felt like right after dress everyone wanted to literally just crawl into a bed like there's a moment i said this is normal right now you're gonna want to go to sleep you're exhausted i did take a nap yeah you did yeah you did have a dress i didn't take a nap, but I laid down because there was like an hour and a half.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And I just,

Speaker 2 Donna got me a nice pillow, and I just put my head down for a little bit.

Speaker 5 Oh, fucking baby. Because the knocking is the tough part.
You know, if you, someone didn't get the memo and you're just about to nod off.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 5 No, excuse me. Oh, I'm sorry.
I didn't know you were resting. Oh, it's just we're doing a change on the

Speaker 5 I'll come back later.

Speaker 1 All right, let's let him go, Dana. He's been a good sport.

Speaker 2 Oh, man.

Speaker 1 Great to see you you guys. Jack, you're a stud, dude.
Thanks for talking.

Speaker 2 One of the best.

Speaker 2 I love any time. I love the

Speaker 5 Chrono idea. I'm going to do that.

Speaker 2 Chrono Marathon.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I'm going to do it. I've been doing it with the Beatles.

Speaker 5 Maybe I'll do Top.

Speaker 2 Have you done it with the Beatles, the Chrono Marathon?

Speaker 5 Well,

Speaker 5 I just do so much of them, but I haven't done literally from Love Me Do all the way to the

Speaker 5 side too. No, that would be another way to.

Speaker 2 I've got to take those early albums a lot because you're like, nah, they were still just kids, they didn't really get their C-legs still rubber sole. But you got to go all the way.

Speaker 5 Well, let me just say two things before we hang up because this is, you know, yeah, the early Beatles, somebody, oh, they weren't so good. No, they did the best two-minute pop songs.
She loves you.

Speaker 5 I want to hold your hand. They reinvented the genre.
It's not like they got better. It's just the group that became that group, of course, they would do the best two-minute pop songs in history.

Speaker 5 And

Speaker 5 the other one was

Speaker 5 that

Speaker 5 Penny Lane and Strawberry Fields were recorded before Sergeant Pepper, after Revolver. They were going to be on Sergeant Pepper, but they made him into double A-side.

Speaker 5 So they were just a single, Strawberry Fields and Penny Lane. And then they ended up, all the leftovers ended up, along with I'm a Walrus on Magical Mystery Tour.

Speaker 5 So Magical Mystery Tour, in some ways, is the greatest album ever made because it has Strawberry Fields, I'm a Walrus, and Penny Lane. Just those three and others.

Speaker 2 Did you see that eight-hour movie that Peter Jackson made? Oh, yeah. That's the fuck.

Speaker 1 That's your boy.

Speaker 2 I had to break it up into three pieces, though. I watched like the first three hours, second, and

Speaker 2 but um, that

Speaker 2 boy, I to see them to see them writing that album, um,

Speaker 2 Let It Be,

Speaker 2 right?

Speaker 2 It was uh, uh, that's one of those times where you're like, if I could just be a fly on the wall for this one time in history, that would be heaven. He fucking got it.

Speaker 2 He got the fly on the wall and one of the top 10 things you'd ever want to watch.

Speaker 5 Four weeks later, they go to Abbey Road with George Martin and they're starting to do Abbey Road. And, you know, because you see the antecedents there, he's going, you know, I don't know what to do.

Speaker 5 Is something in the way? You know, just say like a cauliflower, you know, something so you get the lyric.

Speaker 2 You know. What's funny to me is that the whole film, all of that shooting was an afterthought.
It was the camera crew and director who was filming some shitty movie that

Speaker 2 Ringo Starr was shooting that no one ever heard of or saw. But they were like, hey, since we're here, is it okay if we just film the making of your next album with the Beatles? Oh, that's the boys.

Speaker 2 Is it cool if this guy comes in and films it? We probably should actually. It's not a bad idea.

Speaker 2 And then they fucking got this gold.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Sat there.
I love the the guy who keeps on going up, guys, you've got to do the final farewell concert in Dubai. Or wherever the fuck is the worst idea.
Wherever it was.

Speaker 2 It's like, they're going to end up on the roof of the building you're in, you jackass. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Because he kept on pushing it.

Speaker 2 No, you got to go to, I can't remember where it was.

Speaker 2 All right.

Speaker 2 It's been a blast, buddy.

Speaker 5 Hanging out with you. And we'll see you around campus.

Speaker 2 Yes.

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Speaker 1 Fly in the Wall is executive and produced by Dana Carvey and David Spade, Jenna Weiss-Berman of Odyssey, and Heather Santoro. The show's lead producer is Greg Holtzman.