RE-RELEASE - Zach Galifianakis

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Yeah.

He's in his own lane. His own lane

always makes me laugh. Fun to just talk to him.
We'll always try to watch him if I hear he's going on somewhere. Stay in the room and watch.

And so we happen to have him live at Largo with a packed house.

Yeah. And Largo's right up his alley.
And what a fun dude. I love that he did it.
we we always crack up um

three of us together was really fun for me and larger is a good spot for it so

i just remembered that being like a really

really nice time yeah it was a hot crowd you know it's a it's a very hot theater you know someone the other day said i don't know if i like your podcast i go have you heard the zach galifanakis episode and they go No.

They were like, what? You had him on your show? Yep.

Have you had anyone I've heard of? And we're like, who have we not?

And they're like, what? And they're like, well, I don't know.

And then they're like, huh? And then they're like,

but we have these things in our quiver, these tasty gems from our past.

We don't expect everyone to remember to listen to every

gall dying episode. So we're throwing you some of these.

One of our faves in the business and one of the faves of our podcast guest, Zach Galifanak.

Hey!

Yeah, you go there.

It started.

It's already almost over.

Okay.

Great song. I thought it was good.

I did an impression within the first 20 seconds. Damn, this chair.
Look at our chair differential.

The fuck, I'm like a Muppet.

You're like 6'2 in that thing.

I'm gonna get up front and be like this. What's up, Zach?

What? Sorry, dude. All right, is it Zach here yet?

I got up at 6.

That's it. We're warning him.
It's coming up. I'm punchy.
I'm punchy. I'm overtired.
I'm like a baby. I'm overtired.
Let's bring Zach out. Let's bring him out.
Yeah, that's the beginning.

All right, Zach.

Welcome, Zach Galvanakis. Zach Alvanakis.

Sure.

It was a little louder for Zach if anyone's counting.

All right.

Okay, Zach Galvanakis.

Zach's Zach Alvanakas.

Yeah. I'm just saying, I'm just going to say it.
You're something else, man. Yeah, something else.

You're something else. You look like Wolverine right now with that hair.
Oh, really? I'm sorry.

I actually actually have cool hair, which plugs are coming in nice. Yeah, a lot of pluck work.
A lot of plug work. Nice little crops coming in.

So how you doing?

Is that it? You're a half mile away from me. I'm doing well.
David, why is that chair that way?

This one? I don't know. It's like fucking orthopedic issues.
Oh, okay. He likes to be

erect. Oh, I don't know.
This is good.

Okay. Anyway, we don't have to talk about it.
No, it's all right. Zach, enough of this bullshit.

So, Zach, can we butter you up a little bit yeah let's butter them up okay how the fuck did you come up with the two ferns thing because that's too crazy

some of you remember coming coming hot right out of the box because that thing is I saw every episode today oh

today

well they're they're well I've seen them before but I refer I'm almost 80. I have to refresh my memory.
This is an illusion. It's a lot of blood and gut and sweats and tape.

So, when did you come up with that? Yeah.

It was part of a

pilot that

they were doing, and this guy, Scott Ockerman, was producing it. And

he asked me to do it.

Come on up, Scott. But

he just said, would you do something? And I just said,

for some reason, I had this thought. I just said,

can you get me two ferns

and some kind of celebrity?

And

I had worked at a cable access show or station. I interned one in college.
And so I

kind of like that world, that kind of low-end, desperate.

Try to

communicate.

I actually had a taped a class at a cable access show about

how to waltz.

And I got my two friends,

you know, back when you could do this stuff.

You can't do it anymore. And we just put them in gowns.
And it was a very straight

video and dance lessons on cable access on how to waltz with not trying to be funny.

So that kind of weird world I knew,

Scott Ockerman asked Michael Sarah

to be in the first one, and

we just kind of made it weird and creepy. And I always had thought celebrity interviews are

ridiculous.

No, they are.

He's talking like Access Hollywood. Oh, okay, I got it.
It's a little. Yeah.
Yeah.

I mean, it's just such a bizarre.

But let me ask you a question

about this. So the guest comes in, and I understand from my research today

that you didn't really prep it with them. Did they have cue cards or they don't even know what's coming? And then you guys just go right at it? Or do they kind of know where you're going?

No, nobody really knows what's going on.

I mean, even us.

I mean, we have written things down,

and I think the idea is

they don't need to be funny they just need to kind of answer questions

and i think the um

the awkwardness kind of fills in the rest of it and then often part of it is improv

and we just kind of or i'll give them a something to say back at me that's very mean

so it's kind of a very give and take it's not a prank i don't want to prank people because i'm sure people uh because you know the publicists in this world are very

hawkish and they don't want you to do anything where you're going to look stupid.

So you take the Michael Sarah one maybe and they either see that, because that probably goes up on Funnier Die maybe back then pretty quickly. And then that catches on.

So they go, someone might even call you and say, hey, I'd like to be on this because it's my type of humor. And the people you have on, obviously, are funny and they're huge stars.

And when they go along with it, it makes them look better. It's all good.
It's sort of when you're on SNL and you go with it.

Like they, if you let them make fun of you and goof around, it seems to be funnier. Yeah, I mean, there's that, that is all true.
I mean, but there's been some times when I've

go sideways a little bit.

That's why I was going to ask you.

And I don't really, I don't know if I've even, I don't know if I've even spoken about it, but

there's been a well, I don't, I don't, I, I don't even know if I have, but there's been a couple of instances, and I don't mean to bring people up, but yes. Um,

the name of this show is Name Names. The reason, the reason I bring it up, the reason I bring it up because I was just talking about it to somebody today at lunch for some reason.

So I interviewed, they brought it up

at lunch today, and they interviewed, I mean, I interviewed

Jennifer Anniston.

Yeah.

You know,

Smartwater.

Jennifer, if you're listening, we only know her because of Smartwater. Right.

What about her shampoo commercials? She's got one

hair.

She want you to be honest with me.

I mean, I don't, I guess she, I mean, I don't know. So did you say something to her you thought it crossed the line? No.

No, in the wings, I had a Brad Pitt lookalike.

Of course.

Oh, boy.

And so I wanted to tell her about it before

we started filming, so I kind of asked her if I could have a word with her.

You know, like a vice principal.

Someone who looks like brad pitt might be expensive well no i wasn't how many people look like what yeah but that's how i'm on scale minus 10.

so um so you pull her aside and you say is it okay we try this or did you and i i said i i have a brad pitt look alike here

and as soon as i said it i read her face yeah

and it was her i i i i felt so bad and i don't even know anything about that thing i mean i know that was in the things but in the papers but but

so I don't know much about it. But so,

of course, I called it off. So I went up to the Brad Pitt look-alike

to tell him we don't need him. He's wrapped.
Yes. And I, as a joke, I kind of went, well, I said, listen, we don't need you.
Thanks for coming.

And as a joke, I said, do you happen to look like anyone else?

And without pausing, he goes, Colin Farrell.

So, yeah,

there's those little

don't get rid of me yet. I am a chameleon.
Oh, it's a little bit of a you know, and Jennifer is very funny. Yeah, she's a very funny girl.

But I think that might be, you know, they come there to be funny. He says he's reading the papers.
You're calling her a girl. It's 2023, guys.
Is she funny? I mean, is she a girl? Yeah, she's great.

She should be a woman. I guess you could go away.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
I say girl a lot.

But she is very fun person. I think when they go on, they kind of know what they're getting into, and then it probably goes a hair farther than they think.

And uh, yeah, I mean, I think the idea is to try to rattle as much as you can read people and push it. I there's been a couple of times that, um,

yeah, I was gonna ask you about that. But

well, has there been times where, like, would you do one with Mike Tyson?

I uh

uh I uh

I well, I don't really do them anymore. Oh, okay.
All right.

Sean Fenn's scary enough.

But you're a fan of Don Rickles, right? Because you did that show with him. So Don Rickles, to me, as a kid growing up, was the funniest guy on television.

The reason is because everyone loved him. He'd put you down, and then he'd go, the show's dotted.
Put Ed in the corner. Give him a cookie.
He doesn't know. It was so dry and so bizarre.

There were no jokes. Do you feel like that was an influence for the character, the Fern Guy character, to ride that line?

Because it's funny because you're going right at some sort of truth about them. And if they have a sense of humor about it or a perception of them, they laugh really hard.
Right.

I mean, part of it, I mean, if you're to really break it down, I guess, is that they are

public figures that people kind of want to,

unfortunately, jab at anyway. There's some of that to it.

And I think at the end of the day, I think it's the media and all the thing. Every hype's people are human.
We're all, you know, obviously.

And I think people that are willing to make fun of each of themselves,

I think that's a real nice attribute to someone. Even if it's staged a bit,

I think being able to laugh at yourself in that kind of way is a nice thing. Now, I've been asked to do them

with other people.

presidents of companies and you know big

Pepsi has asked to sponsor it you know to get blown out of proportion. And I've always just wanted to keep it free

online and keep it clear of

those other things that get in the way. Yeah, the monetization people would come in and go.

We've monetized it a bit, but only just only in a way that we see fit. I mean, we've been asked to,

I got asked to do a Super Bowl commercial using it.

And

it's coming out next week.

I can't remember. You made a really good deal.

I did a puppy bowl commercial earlier.

I'm for sale. Church lady is blocked and loaded for a super

go deep. By the way, first of all,

I'm ready. I'm selling.

I've done, Dana and I both obviously sell out kings here. We've done

corporate gigs, and when you do them, they go, our CEO,

say something about him. By my other guy.
I don't even know what the guy works there. He's like, when you get up there, say he's got three balls, he beats his wife, do something about that.

Just throw it in there, mix it up, throw it in the middle. And

then you go, and then you do it, and everyone goes, what? And you go, did this guy work with you? He just told me.

So they try to do that, and that's kind of what they want to do to CEO, like roast him or something. And you go, it's not even funny.

They were drunk. And I was playing Earth, Wind, and Fire were supposed to, I was opening for them.
The CEO got drunk. I was.
The CEO got drunk. It went on for like two hours.

So I was getting paid a lot of money. They go, you can only do 15 minutes, but I went over a little bit.
And I guess Earth and Wind came out, but fire wouldn't.

That was a long way for that joke. That's a good job.
I don't mind it. Did you really open for them? I did open for them.
I opened for a lot of people. Tower Power, Todd Rundgren, you know,

Robert Palmer. Really? I bombed every fucking time.
Yeah, Jesus Christ. Your hero will be on in a second, but for first, Dana Glarfo.

They must have ruined your name when you first saw Minster.

Everybody, I mean, how would they say it?

Well, they just tried to make it sound somewhat ethnic. And they're like,

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But in high school, I was Zach Galifaganakis.

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The first ferns I saw,

these ferns are like tall pine trees by now.

When I saw the first one, I didn't know what it was. Someone just sent it to me and said, look at this.
And so I thought it was a real interview. And then it was Natalie Portman, who I love.

And so I was,

of course, in a jealous rage immediately. And then, and then you were saying some of you, you had great jokes now.
I won't repeat them because I'm not good at that. But

you said so many jokes. And it was so, and for her to play along, and I thought it was real for a while.
And then I go, Jesus, this is so weird. And then it took me a while to figure it out too long.

And then

so I started going, oh, this is great. And then when you would do them, you obviously didn't overdo it.
You didn't do too many. They weren't super long.

It was just a great, great

bit that lives out there on the internet, which everyone should see.

I don't know where I'm going with this, Dana. Jump in.

Would you like to say anything in your defense, Zach?

Well,

I mean, speaking of that one,

that one we shot in a garage in

a garage

right around here, right in Hollywood somewhere. And

the thing about that one is

there's a line in it, not to be vulgar, but it's

something about, did you shave your...

Okay.

You said here is.

David V for Vendetta.

Yeah, and then there's a punchline, did you shave your V for vagina or something?

That one caught me off guard. To Natalie Portman, in a garage.
Yes. In a garage.
In a garage with loose turtles about. By the way, I barely understand that joke.

I think I still have a lot of fun. It was a movie.
I don't know.

It's funny.

I think it's the fact that I'm asking it.

So anyway,

if I remember correctly, she was quite

good with the whole thing. And then

we sent it to her just to

show it to her. And

I had asked that joke to be left out of it. I said, can you edit that out? We'll send it to her.
And her note was, where's that vagina joke? Oh, really?

Oh, I love her.

I don't know if that was the exact note.

Where is the vagina joke?

Something like that. Something along those lines.
By the way, there's a dog. She just went up on the hip meter.
Yeah, she's on real. But did you?

There's a dog that you keep cutting to, which is even funnier. Yeah, that was, I think that was a real dog.

The dog rolls over on his back, and then when something dies or it just sits there, then they cut over the dog.

It all works. And then I Sean Penn one.
Sean looked very cool in that one.

Yeah, I'd be scared of that one. And then Sean Penn can, yeah, I had a fight with him.
I was in a dress at the time, but

he said hit me harder. He said you can hit me harder.
It's no problem.

I would like to one day talk to him about the one we did.

Did they bring it up?

It was an interesting day.

Well,

was he truly upset or was he quite a bit quite quite great? He was very quiet. He's a good actor.
So he can quiet. Or he's a good actor.

And

I think he may have been ready to deck me in real life. I don't know.
Maybe he was doing a method thing and I don't. So he's tricky.
He held it so serious that you weren't sure if he was serious.

He might have been. Yeah.

And

I have worked with him. I mean,

not that I know him, but, you know, he has a good sense of humor. He really does.

Yes.

Huge laugher.

And

it loves to go see stand-up.

But in that moment,

it was

odd. Was it something you, was it a line that you gave him? You said something.

Weren't you playing your brother or something in that moment? I was playing this overly, over the, well, it's not really over top. There are people like this in the South.

Really

into him for the wrong reasons type person. Okay, and how does that guy talk?

Well, it's based on a character I used to do

in high school called the, I think his name was

The Effeminate Racist. And

I remember that Skittles, yeah, but so that's great. So it's just a guy that talks like the Yes.

And so friends of mine that were black in high school would bump me in the hallway. So this character would be released

and I would say to them

my mom told me not to talk to black people and they

go crazy with die laughing because they understood at the time that I was mocking it all

You know, so that's where that kind of that's where that came from that was as simple as that well There was something Dana where he goes Sean and he's doing this and he's sort of prodding goes did you get into I'd get into Hollywood just so you could go to all the parties and all the wrong reasons that Sean wouldn't want.

Sean is very funny, and unlike his persona out there, and so I like that he's going along with it, but he was so serious. Then he goes, I could walk over there and knock you the fuck out right now.

And even I was like, God damn, he gave that a good reading.

I think he knew it was funny and interesting. I think he was playing good.
I don't think he was offended. I'd like to ask him.
We haven't spoken since.

His kids, and my kids went to school together, or at least played sports sports together up in Northern California.

I'll talk to Sean. Yeah, ask him.
Ask him,

amen.

I want to smoke. If you could smoke and not get diseases, I would definitely be smoking right now.
There's nothing cooler, right? It's like,

tell us some more, Zach.

Anyway, can we go back to you as a young person then?

You strike me as like an introverted extrovert. Like you're shy in a way.
I think we are maybe. Well, I think I am, but yeah.
Well, anyway, it doesn't matter. Anyway,

but then you have this powerhouse thing that comes out like in high school. Did you go to the theater group or are you just funny with friends? Or what were you like in grade school, high school?

Just walking around?

Just walking around. Just walking around.

Just in the Beverly South. I mean,

you know, I think I was somewhat quiet, but I think

humor in my family was

seen in very high regard.

So my cousins and my brother,

my family is funny. You know, I kind of watched them even as the quiet person I thought I was or I think I was.

So I was kind of this more kind of observant kid that

thought maybe one day I could... through my observations, maybe make a thing out of it.
And you were thinking that like at age eight, 10, 12? I mean,

but young, young, you got the idea maybe you would do this for a little bit. This is going to sound weird, but it was at my parents' conception of me.

Doesn't sound weird at all. It doesn't sound like

my brother, Brad. I've got three older brothers.
He swears he remembers being born, and he's serious. Really? Yeah, he has a photographic memory.
He just remembers being born. Yeah.

I'm not kidding, Brad. The guy

funny, younger really pays off. And I think that's for all of us.
Like at dinner or at school, like I was at a school that was, I was a little bit of a pip squeak, hard to believe.

And always bullied and pushed around. But if you could, I would quietly say jokes to my friends or under my breath.
But that kind of, if you get a little something, that's all I had.

I wasn't super athletic. I wasn't this.
So if you have some little hook like that, you go, ooh, my dad thought it was funny.

You know, people think it's funny, and then you go, oh, and then you try to. Maybe that's kind of like that for a lot of comedians.
Well, the tall guys didn't have to do anything to get the girls.

We, on a a bioevolutionary level, we had to be funny.

Zach, you're not that short.

I'm around 6'2. Okay.

That's a gigantic chair.

It's an optical illusion. Same with me.
I look like I'm a foot shorter than you. Look at this.
Can you switch places?

No. Okay.
I like it up here. So, Zach, so you're.
Did you take theater? Did you go into that kind of stuff? Or were you just like. Or were you just like? No,

I just was not.

I did public speaking competitions. I did that once.

How's that competition? I didn't say a lot. It sounds good.
No, my mom wrote the speech.

And it was called You and I and Tomorrow.

Seriously? Yeah, that was the name of it. Yeah.

Was it a public service?

It was...

I don't remember how you and I. We should do a remake.
Yeah, there was a speech contest in in North Carolina locally, and then you could go to the state finals.

And my brother and I were kind of into it, but never really, no theater, none of that. My mom tried to get me to go to the School of the Arts in

North Carolina. She did urge me to go there.
She knew that I had, I mean, she knew that I was eager to figure it out. What's this? Was it School of Yours?

School of the Arts

is a really, a really good school in Winston's Day.

She She was your champion. At least she bought it.

My mom would be like, he's quiet, but I swear he's funny.

Like, I would hear her say that to my aunts and stuff. And did she want you to play piano? When did you learn to play piano? Oh, right.
So I learned piano.

I don't know how to play piano.

I don't know how to read music. So

I don't know why I was getting ready to tell you. Well, I learned piano.

I don't know piano.

You seem pretty good to me.

Well,

I can fake it. But for some reason, only sad music comes out of me.
Me.

And it goes well with the jokes. You know, didn't you do a VH1 show? And I think you...
Why do I think there's a piano at the beginning of that?

I did.

I had a talk show in VH1 years ago,

and

there was the piano was involved during the monologue. And I think that's why I had the show because I was like a musical act at the time.

Was it sort of variety where you could, because you're not, you didn't want to just interview like Johnny Carson, like normal straight interviews, I'm sure, right?

I was just trying to figure out, the format had been beaten to death, and

I just was trying to figure out like, how can I do something

different, but interesting and sometimes

funny.

Funny was kind of last, but we, on that show, we would have

we would have it make it look like no one wanted to come to the show. So we would have one person in the studio audience,

but we would have a laugh track of a six-year-old,

so it was very bizarre.

It was really a weird show. Can we find this somewhere? Is it a single-shaped show? I know most of those episodes are in my attic.

Can we find the six-year-old?

I don't think they're online. I don't know if they are.
I remember, what was it called? Do you remember?

It was called 60 Minutes. Nope.

It was called Late World.

Late World? Yeah. How old are you when you do Late World?

30, 30, 30, 30. You know what I'm saying?

So how long have you been? I don't know how old I was. I was 35.

I need numbers. How long did you do stand-up in clubs before you got that show? Oh, I was still doing stand-up.
And then that show failed, and I went back to doing Open Mics.

So I had a talk show on VH1, and as soon as it ended, I was like, well, back to the old. So I just went back to the coffee houses.

And you weren't really making a living then at stand-up or just a little bit.

There was a time where I could go on the road and,

you know,

do

make a living. And I was before, I was making a living for a while on the road, yeah.

And you had an hour?

I had an hour of

sometimes. The material was a little bit

too bizarre sometimes, and

there was some alienation. I mean, it was funny when you were telling me about I opened for this Sugar Hill gang once, and

said a hip, hop, hippie. Okay.
And I remember getting kicked off stage because I made fun of the Bible, and I didn't realize I was performing at a Bible school.

And this is how they kicked me off. The woman just came up to the stage.
She goes,

So, yeah, those, I mean, yeah, all those shows, all those. Did you have a southern accent when you were and you got rid of it, or did you actually have a little bit of a southern accent?

No, I mean, I'm going home in a couple of days, and it'll just go back. It just turns back on.
It's just

an easier way to. It's North Carolina.
I mean, what is that? Well, it's not Mississippi. It's not a case.
No, it's like Appalachia, North Carolina, Appalachia.

And a lot of people speak through their nose there.

And it's like, hey, how are you?

But if you go east in North Carolina, it's very breathy, and it's really beautiful, and it sounds nice. But so there's all kinds of different accents that you must pay attention to.

What did you think of Daniel Craig's accent and Knives Out?

Well,

I thought it was kind of cool.

I always find Hollywood always does the gone with the wind. I declare I have never seen such a, you know.

Well,

I think we are, we have a

mood.

Yeah, we got a mood of kids. I think we got a mood.

It's a little foghorn. Yeah.
But

I thought it was great. I mean, he's pretty.
He's a cool. It just has to be funny or sound weird.
Yeah. No one's fat.
It's entertaining, but you can go through all the southern accents.

I'm pretty good with knowing where in the south someone might be from. I'm pretty good at it.
Okay. I did a movie.
I talk like this. Where am I from?

You don't seem to know where. You don't know.
He doesn't know. You don't know where I'm from, bud.

I had a friend. I have a friend from Mississippi.
He kind of talks like this.

I'm from Columbia Falls, Mississippi. Sound just like Omer Powell.
That's right. Grew up, and he's a real sincere fella.

These snakey fellas are trying to get your money, Dana.

These are direct quotes. He'll be thrilled.
He got laughs.

Dana, I did a movie where I was playing. They go, you're going to play a New Hampshire accent.
So, first of all, that's a tough one. I feel, I smell an Oscar immediately.

So I say, I'll go, they go, go to a dialect coach. So I go to a dialect coach.
I'm like, doing it. And they go, that's a little more Boston.
I took two lessons, right?

For the whole movie. And I'm like, listen, guy.
And they're like, that's more. And I go, I pulled her aside.
I go, here's the deal.

My audience is four to eight-year-olds. All right.
I just have to sound funny. All right.
They're not going to go in there with a microscope.

They go, oh, he sound, if I just don't sound like Joe Dirt in one movie, they'll be happy, all right? They'll go, oh, that one's different.

So it was a kids' movie, and they're trying to get you to do New Hampshire. It's not supposed to be kids' movies.
They turn into it because that's

the one. You're the first star of it.
Yeah. Because all my movies aren't TBS because it's the grown-ups channel.
And it's just a rotation of every movie. I could have helped you.

Do you remember those Petridge Farm commercials? Petridge Farm. Petridge Farm, fake and delicious.
That's the only way I could do New Hampshire. Is that New Hampshire?

Isn't it? Didn't recognize it. Petrich Farm, coming different blueberries, strawberry, flavor.
He's the expert over here. I don't know.

Let's take a tour of the south again.

Zach, I'm playing. I'm clammy.
What do they sound like? I'm playing Durham, Durham. Is that a city? That's a city.
That's where Duke University is. And I'm excited to play that, but any trouble?

Should I worry about?

That's where my dad's from. That's where he's.
I don't have any comps left, but

normally it would be easy.

No, I'm excited to go there because it's a good south. I've never played out.
I love the south. Yeah, I do too.
I missed

paradise. I was going to ask Zach something else.
Oh, you were in the what's how far did you get in the scouts? I heard you were in the scouts. I was in the Eagle Scout.

Is that the complimentary molestation? Where's my notes?

Where did my notes go? Oh, here they are here. I'm kidding, Zach.
We're taking that out. No, no, that's fine.
We're in taking that out.

Or we're putting it on a loop for promotion.

Zach's like, if that was actually written down, I'm walking out of here.

Oh, well, let's ask him about.

I want to, well, we can talk about a hangover for me. You were in the hangover.

This is like the adventure. Hangover was like,

calls. Applaud.
God damn. They don't know.
They don't know. Hangover.

Of the last 20 years, the two that got me the hardest as comedies, because I don't really, I see all the strings, Hangover and Tropic Thunder.

Those are the two that caught me flat-footed.

And you were in, which one? I was in.

Sorry. I was in the Hangover.

So you go from comedian's comedian. People know you.
You're going along. You've done a special.

live Purple Onion, stand-up special. And then Todd Phillips calls and you go on what happens next.

Are you the first first choice for that or do you know? Do you remember?

It's a real question. I mean,

listen, I've been a fallout on every movie I've ever done.

Oh, my God.

I don't know.

That's not a mean question. That's just like, sometimes the movies come together and they go, we got this one would be a good accent.
Obviously, Zach's great.

It's a funny part to play, and they let you do.

It seems like Todd, who seems like a really funny, cool guy, let you do what you do.

Well,

I think he was going to stand-up clubs

I think that's what he had told me and then that's where he knew me from because I don't know if I'd done much

otherwise

to be seen on on screen but

so he asked me an audition I think I was living in Canada and I just I'm terrible I just don't like to audition I'm it's I'm I've always been bad at it I

usually

usually make

I usually get. I mean, I was just, I have so many stories about, we all do, but

could you tell us one of a really

well? No, I mean, here's just, I mean, I don't want to, but there's just so many, you know, I just was so

not into the process of it. I mean, the first time I ever got a laugh

in an audition was when I first auditioned for a drama.

And they were laughing at me. Well, sometimes the problem is

if you're a comedian, you read things, and it feels sort of stiff because you're a bit quirky or character-y. And so when you're reading super flat lines that are just written for a generic comedy,

they'll tweak them later if it's him or somebody. But as is, it's sometimes for your personality, maybe it doesn't...

It's not hilarious when you do it because it's so basic. But if you brought your stuff to it, then it's funny.
So maybe he saw if you could bring your weirdness to it, then it's great.

Well, I think also at that time, I was a bit older, and I think I was kind of

not to be cavalier about it, but I think my attitude was, well, this is probably going to end soon, meaning this pursuit of whatever this is.

Oh, I see. I don't really

care as much because I'll just kind of try to exit without caring.

If that makes any sense. Oh, wait a minute.
So you were were that you get the hangover, you're thinking this is pretty much a mic drop. I'm out of here.
No, meaning

I'm not going to get this. I'm not going to get this.

I will just. I think my mindset then was,

you know, I tried doing show business, you know, at that time. I mean, you know, you kind of beat yourself up sometimes, and I didn't really know what I was doing.
And

I mean, who does?

But,

but anyway, I flew down from Canada and auditioned, and I think I remember leaving,

getting into my stretch hummer.

So you were doing what? I'm telling Sugaray to scoot over.

Oh, God, I laugh, but I did a pilot with him 20 years ago.

But then

I got the job, and

then you do the

you show up for work and you start acting in it.

I remember going to dinner with the other actors, with Bradley and

I forget the other names.

Ed Helms. No, it's only Bradley.
Who gives a shit about the other guys? Bradley Cooper.

Bradley and Ed, and I think Ken and

we were all at dinner, and I said to them,

this movie seems good.

I've never had this feeling before.

So I felt there was a real kind of energy on set there that was, you know,

sometimes that happens and it's not, it doesn't translate to the screen.

There's great energy on set and everybody's like, well, this is, but that one, Todd is a very good editor and a really good direct, very good director that knows how to steer that stuff.

Sure, you sort of need all the components and you can lose it anywhere along the way.

But if you do it and you're doing like, maybe you're doing extra takes where you're just trying different jokes and screwing around.

Plus, we all remember the Hangover wasn't a huge movie, and it was probably not a big budget. And no one, you're not going into it going, Oh, I just got the Avengers.

It's like, oh, I just got a comedy. It could go away, it could be nothing, but it turns, it blows up, obviously, into a huge thing.

So it would be probably even scarier to audition for something if you know it's that big. Like people that are auditioning for the sequel are like, Holy shit, this is a huge movie.

Yeah, I had to audition for the sequel. You did?

That's shit. You're going to read with Brad Cooper in this in the first half.
That's great. I had this guy come up to me once and he goes,

Hey, are you an actor? I go, yeah. He goes,

Are you the guy from Hangover 2?

I don't even know how I answer. I think I just walked away.
I didn't know what to say.

Where's the baby now? You still stay in touch?

Todd.

He had a baby.

That sounds like Brody. Brody.
Oh, my God. Brody Stevens is a great comedian.
Zach was very good friends. I was friends with.
He toured me for a while at the very end and passed away.

And, God, I was just thinking today because I knew you were close with Brody. And so I was clicking from your stuff because honestly, I don't know who you are.

And I was clicking from you, and then I'm jumping over to Brody's shit, trying to remember all his jokes. And I just saw a clip of him, classic Brody, not bombing, but getting so mad at the crowd.

And the crowd's like, we didn't do anything wrong. They're just not laughing that much.

And he's going, arms crossed, negative. And he was doing all his jokes.

I'm dating a girl from Greece, the movie. She's 75.

You know, you know how many joke? I was trying to think of all these jokes he has, Dana. I don't know if you knew him.
And everyone,

we'd stand in the back and laugh.

That talk show on VH1 I was talking about earlier, he was the warm-up guy.

And I would like peek behind the curtain to see what was going on. And Brody just would be going, Whopper or Big Mac, you make the call.

That's actually probably pretty good. I mean, for a warm-up guy, just energy, right? You know what? He did it on our Lights Out show, and I'd peek my head at the same thing.

And they go, hey, something's going on out there. And he goes, you're negative.
You're negative. You don't deserve deserve David Spade he was in police academy for

he's from Michigan and he's not coming out until I give the green light and and I'm going what is why is he yelling at the crowd and there's the crowd is like nine people you know and but he had so many goddamn fucking one of my favorite moments with him

god is it's early on and we were hanging out we were

my apartment in Santa Monica and Margaret Trow was on television and we're just watching in silence.

Well, I don't mean it like that, but we're just watching it. And

after a couple minutes, Brody just yells at the TV, not trying to be funny, she had a sitcom. Why come me don't have one?

Why come me? Why come me don't have one? He answered his own question.

He goes,

He goes, I'm doing pretty well in show business.

I'm finally able to take my mom out to lunch and pay for half.

Is that it? I'm a professional mangler.

One more.

I am not a member of the Mile High Club, but I did masturbate on the Ferris wheel at the Pomona County Fair.

So many jokes. He was so funny.
But I'm saying him because he was in,

I think you put him in one or two things, because he goes, you know me, I'm the guy from Hangover, Hangover 2, Due Date, cut out of funny people. Yes.
Yep. Yeah.

He, yeah, I think, well, Todd, Todd saw Brody. Todd Phillips saw Brody while I was doing shows at the old Largo.

So that's why Brody's in those movies. I didn't have anything to do with it.

If I had something to do with it, he wouldn't have been in any of them.

Todd's got a good eye, though. Yeah.

Fuck it. But I miss him so much.
I was missing him so much.

David, I may have told you this the other day, but

there wasn't a podcast, so I'll say it again.

But I was missing this guy we're talking about, Brody, and he was known for alienating audiences.

That was one of the reasons I think comics like his charms perversely is we would all rush out to see him turn audiences away.

We had a few of those in San Francisco. And he's bombing in Montreal, who used to have this baseball team, and blah, blah, blah.

And Brody just looks out at the audience while he's bombing, and he yells out, no wonder the Expos left.

He was a pitcher at ASU, I think, and he goes, I threw 88 with movement.

He would say that in the middle of his act, too. A very funny guy.

I want to read all his jokes.

So hangover worked out for you. Is that the end of that story? Yeah.

Did you when you that so this is the first time you're getting actual extra extra money? Did you buy a rover pace or anything?

I mean, what did you, did you do anything with what was that like when you first had extra, extra money? Yeah.

I bought four elephants.

Smart. No, I, I, I mean, I bought, I went, I bought a place, I bought a place in North Carolina, a farm.
I'm not a farm, but a place to try to be a farmer. Turnickel.

But I don't live there anymore. But yeah, I got that and then I.

You went home and bought them all?

Just to show off.

I don't remember. I got a lot of fur coats for all my aunts.

Everybody gets a fur coat.

Did you? You like to farm, right? Oh, I mean, my fantasy is to be a farmer one day, but I look, that's hard work.

It's to for some entertainment guy to say that is kind of, but that's what I feel like.

Not farm. It's more gardening, to be honest.
Okay. But

I have a tractor. It's a tractor.
I have a tractor. I'm getting.
Can you drive it around?

No, Dana. It's for my insta.

But gardening. I like to work work with my hands.
I masturbate, ladies and gentlemen.

You got it.

That's Brody again.

Oh, yeah, he goes.

I've been doing porno. I do a one-man scene on a yoga mat in Chatsworth.
I don't know. Let's talk about baskets.
Baskets was a great show. Baskets.

I don't have to tell this crowd. You don't have to tell this crowd, Zach.
They know. Baskets.

That's it.

You only do cool stuff, it seems to me. I've done a cool stuff.

You do a lot of cool stuff. You do cool stuff.
It seems like you do it on your own terms. Like they let you do your thing, which isn't always the case with everyone.

And it's sort of the dream for any comedian. Like, let me just do my own thing.

Like, Curb is always an example of like, that would be fun to do something like that, where you could just do your own thing. And it's very, very hard to do those things.

I mean, people look at it and go, that's such a great show or baskets. But to write it, cast it well, make it make sense, all that stuff is exhausting.

Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of thought that goes into it. And sometimes you get lucky, and most of the time you get unlucky.
But sometimes you get lucky with

things kind of come to place. I mean, I think that show, if I could bore you with it a bit, is

it? We were just trying to be.

I had not seen regular people on television portrayed without

i just wanted to ground a comedy so it should be emotional

on them yeah with not this

i wanted it to be dusty and i wanted it to be more real than i have seen especially the comedy world and i i asked john uh kreisel the director of uh can you can you figure out this this this dusty world i'm trying to tell you about and this rodeo clown world.

So, you know, we did our research a little bit and started casting and writing it. And

yeah, it's a show I'm,

it was so fun to work on. And

yeah,

it was a lot of fun and a lot of work. I was just thinking about

Louis Anderson when I was talking about it. And I just heard he died today.

He would have fucking laughed. Yes.

Oh, he would have laughed. Every comedian laughs at any joke by that.
You know what I mean? Oh, my God.

Louis was. When did that strike you? When did you figure that out? I'm going to have Louis play my mom.
Louis C.K. and I were talking.

All the Louis.

Well, there were two Louis in this. Louis C.K.
Louis. Louis C.K.
and I were talking about

the mother to cast the mother, and he was asking me what I was thinking about. And I said,

Well, oh, I'd already called this British actress named Brenda Blethen,

who I really, really like.

But for some reason,

that didn't work out.

Or she didn't get the email.

That's what I like. There was just no, she didn't get the email.

So I was telling Louis, I was kind of imitating the voice.

This is a story I've told many times, but

and I was doing the voice, and he looked at me and he goes, like Louie Anderson's voice?

And I said,

yeah.

And Louis goes,

shall we call him?

And I went,

yeah.

And that was it.

And that was, that was, there was this weird

Louis had, and I didn't know this, but he had been channeling his mom on stage for a long time. Yeah.

And that was kind of a luck, that was the lucky part about it. But I had always loved him.

I loved his vulnerability,

even in a standard.

If you can observe these kind of things, it's fun to kind of try to figure out.

And I thought,

he can do it, but I don't want it drag. Right.
It has to be real. The first day they put a lot of makeup on him.
And I was like, can we get some of that off?

He's the part.

So just, you know, we put some wonderful costumes on him and the makeup was wonderful. And Louis is, you know, I think when you come from such a background like he did,

I think his tenderness came from pain

on Q.

Jeez.

I told my managers like, if I say something cool,

someone ruins it. Make sure you beep something.

If I get choked up talking about Louie,

beep it so it breaks up the ice.

This is a good audience.

But no, I think Louie had this thing in him that was

really could throw it out. Heartbreaking pathos in his stand-ups and a brilliant stand-up and storyteller.
But unsaid, I would die laugh at work with Louis. He was funny every second.
Oh my God.

God, he just made, he just was so great.

You know, I don't, you probably knew Louie.

When I first got to town, I was 20. I was 20.
This is at least eight years ago. I was.

So I don't know where I

saw Louis somewhere, and I didn't know him. I mean, I was in the hallway at the improv, but he was nice.

And I was trying to audition at the improv for the comedy store. Those are are the big ones to get in.
And I was 20 and I had okay act. I had about eight minutes.

And so he says, Why don't you audition for Mitzi? And I go, Oh, I don't even know how to do that. And he said, I'll bring you down.
So I went down there, met him.

He went and told Mitzi on like their audition night. And I went in, the comedy store right here,

did my sit, did okay, came out in the sidewalk on Sunset and just stood there. And he came out and he goes,

She didn't like you.

I go, oh,

it's tough, man. I auditioned there once, and then you have to go see Mitzi.
Did you go over to her? No,

he was the middleman. I'll shoot you out.
He spared me watching her. I go, I'm sure she would have been rougher about it.
He was like, Yeah, 20. I auditioned, and she said to me, get some puppets.

It's not bad advice.

Yeah, I auditioned for her and nothing.

Nothing happened. You're in the main room next night.
Yep.

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Nose Fiona Apple. Check.
Do you want to do some... Oh, wait, SNL.
We had to ask about SNL, remember?

There's some things about SNL.

God damn, Danny, you forgot one. I watched both your monologues today.
Ah, I'd seen them before. You had a big day.

I'm telling you, I've been researching for 11 hours. No, I

Saturday Night Live, 2010, 2011,

hosting both times.

And someone today mentioned you and

Keenan Thompson's.

What's up with that? What's up with that?

And you came out, this guy with this long flute in this weird jumpsuit.

And it's a a very

double-sided flute? Yeah.

Does it guys remember Extrea's flute? Yeah. You just came out.
You had no lines. You just came out, played it.
Even though it was you, I thought. Yeah.
But it was something very indelible about that.

Yeah,

I remember that.

I still have the jump. I have the jumpsuit.
It's in my closet.

I usually don't keep any of that stuff, but I have. It's quite.

comfortable.

I wear it a lot in Canada while I'm chopping wood.

But

yeah,

that was a flute.

I remember they had like a double thing guitar. And I was like, I don't know, that seems like, is there a, can you build a flute where the guy does this?

And

yeah, they did this.

That's the great thing about that show.

It's like, can you maybe get a prop like this?

Yeah, sure. Yeah, sure.
Yeah. They can do anything within 24 hours.
Yeah.

And you did, I read one. Maybe you

were brought in as a guest writer or somebody said there was a Britney Spears sketch that you pitched an idea with you and Will Farrell.

Ten years before you were brought in as a guest writer?

Well, I thought I was brought in as a cast member.

You were making guests. They never tell you what you're brought in.
No, I couldn't figure it out. There was a weekend.
I was like, oh, I don't,

I guess I'm writing.

So I wrote,

looking back, I feel really bad about it, but not that it was a... There were two sketches that I pitched to her, and it was just she and I in this office alone.

And

Britney Spears. The first sketch was

Will Farrell, we were going to shrink him down to be the bodyguard to her belly button.

Love it. Love it.
Right? That sounds great. That sounds funny.
That sounds great. And so that was basically what I said to her.

I remember a tumbleweed going through the conversation

on my back. I mean, it's not her fault.
And then

I thought at the time, because she was so kind of pop call, pop, sugary,

I said, look, I think it would be funny if you were to do a straight interview with something like Entertainment Tonight.

And you're just answering these banal questions and

you happen to be bleeding from the mouth

I like that I like it too this sounds like a mundane

I just remember she looked at me

and then I remember looking at the ground and the ground and

remember looking back up and we made eye contact and she goes yeah that's funny

she was nice about it she seems very she was very nice about it and that's the funny it could could have been a great show for her. Because of the blood coming down and trying to...

I don't know. I thought maybe it would be kind of a fun thing, but, you know,

it didn't work. It didn't work for her.
Zach, pop stars shouldn't really bleed on her.

Rule number 540. So your monologue, I mean,

the second one where you stripped your clothes off. You had a little red jumpsuit on, and then you had a board with letters on it.

Like,

well, I.

No, no, it's fine. Well, it's something I had been doing in my stand-up.
I mean, in my late 30s, I was going around the country. With the board and the board in a little orphan annie dress.

And Glenn. With your dress too? Oh, yeah.

That was in your club act?

Oh, well,

at this time, I was kind of doing bigger. Your club act.
Bigger. Your club act, kid.
You got your club act in your hand. I was doing Uncle Tampon's Comedy Cave in Tampa.

Uncle Tampon's Comedy Cave. No.

I was doing, you know, shows, and so I had that one under

a thing that I

was something I liked doing, and I was trying to be absurdist and somewhat political at the same time back then.

And sometimes, you know, the only way I felt like I could pull that off, or at least to have a message or two, was to do something very weird. And there were a couple of political jokes buried in that

that uh and then i would change it from time time to time and i actually got uh

someone tried to sue me because of what was on those flip charts years ago really

yeah

so I it I so I would perform as little orphan annie and close out shows and by the time I was ready to do Saturday Night Live, I was, I mean, I think it was

39, dressed as Little Orphan Annie, you know, around the country. Yeah, like, but this is

pop house. Yes, advancing in a very, like, you know, much too old to be doing that thing.

But

they're like, John Hamm did this last week. You're like, what?

I've been sitting on this. I don't even know you.

Yeah, that's the, yeah, I remember that bit. Yeah, God, Jesus, it haunts me.
Do you remember the first time you met Lauren Michaels?

He doesn't have to.

Any thoughts about him?

No, I don't remember the first time. I mean, no, I do remember in his office.
Yeah, in his office. When you host, you go and you go into that awkward meeting thing that is very.
It's a fun week.

You're excited. You're coming off that hangover heat.

The minute you're hot, you feel yourself getting less hot.

Lauren has a lot of... When you know you're hot, you're cold.

Anyway, let's bring everyone in.

They bring everyone in and then they pitch all the ideas and Zach. He has popcorn, right? Yeah.
He has popcorn

all day long.

Unsalted.

It's unsalted, isn't it? Butter? Butter.

I've always liked butter.

He's an interesting person. Chiffy pop.

Chiffy pop. Does he think of

anybody's?

He never talks about it? I don't think he knows I'm doing one. It's so bad.
Dana's.

He asked me once on an airplane. I've been doing it for years behind the scenes, but it was too embarrassing to do it in front of him.
So he asked me, he said, like,

you know, what would you do me? Like, what do you do? You know,

and I balked at that moment, you know, but years later, I was at a restaurant with Lauren and his two assistants and Rob Lowe in Santa Monica. And he said, you know, do it for me.

So I started to do it. And I said it was just him at the, at the board on the Wednesday night picking the show.
and he would get mad he'd go I still have no fucking first act

and then he would go into the bathroom and coincidentally this is true story so he's he's doing that and then he tells me to tell the Paul McCartney story when I met him at Lauren Michaels house so I'm doing Paul like this and going on and on like that Lauren's looking up and going could be yes yes and I did an impressionist tap out and it's Paul And I'm going,

oh, Paul was behind you and he knew he was coming in.

I get tapped out. Once I had John Travolta, I was on stage in Denver, and I'm, you know, these guys are going crazy like that.

And then tap out, it's John Travolta. That's funny.
Yeah, it's an impressionist tap out. But anyway,

Lauren, I think at this point, gets it. Everyone does it.
I think he's kind of likes it, I believe. Don't you think so? It's complimentary.
It's funny.

We all love him. I mean, he's brilliant.

Lauren, his isms,

his life little things. Marriage is a prison everyone's trying to escape into.

That's a great one. Wow, that's good.
I mean, who, and he's got tons of those. He talked about funny people.

Are you going to be around funny people? Because there's like only 900 of us on the planet at any given time. And 900 was like the perfect number.
Like, really? Is that about it?

Like, 20 in Poland and like 18 in, you know,

there's only 900 funny people on the planet. It feels a little heavy for Poland.
But Lauren, Lauren, he's

a little heavy.

Maybe. Maybe.
Maybe low teens.

So you do the hangover. You're very successful.
You do baskets. You do Saturday Live.

This is a big summary. Big summary.

I have some basic questions. Yeah, go, yeah, let's drill in.
Let's just basic questions. When you give to charity, is it for ego fulfillment or to help people?

It's a good good one.

Yeah.

I think if people don't know that you've given, then you haven't given.

Yeah.

Finally.

Or at least that's the motto of this fucking town.

When I do the wire, I call the press people at the exact same time.

I go, this wire is not going out without Yahoo News knowing.

Let's put us all on one email. The best thing about being famous is

good table at soup plantation.

My best feature is

hangover.

Hangover? Did you say hangover? Feature film? No. No, my best feature.
Oh,

I thought it was like looks.

That's how I actually.

Yes.

Okay, I have good legs.

Would you describe yourself as an empath or a narcissist?

There's no middle ground at all. I don't know.
I don't even know what that is.

You know what an empath is? Not really.

Empath is somebody who feels feelings. Oh, I do.
Okay, I'm that one. Yeah.

You are so totally that one. I am.

Can I tell you, David said that I was driving here tonight, and David, a few years ago, a bunch of people were in

the

green room. Yeah.

And we were all just talking about stand-up and where we used to do it, how we

the old days. And David just goes,

when I first started doing stand-up, as everybody leaves the room,

I saw people start to go. It makes me laugh all the time.
I think about it all the time. Dude, he was here two weeks ago, and I talked to him for three minutes.
And I laughed so hard.

I go, I can't even talk to you anymore because I knew we were doing this. And I go, God, he makes me laugh so fucking hard.
And then I came over here because you're one of my favorites.

And I start to watch you stand up and I go, oh, no. And then I had to go after you.
And everyone's like, oh, that's not true.

That's weird because that's a different interpretation of how I felt after that show. Oh, really?

You handed me my hat like. That was a tough set.

Well, I do that to get in your head.

No, I, no, his. All right, it was.

He left his hat on stage, so I grabbed it, and he was leaving, and I went back, and

some Davey Crocker. It was like some,

and I gave it to him, and I was like, hey, fuck that crowd, man.

That's a good one. Then they go, huh?

That's...

That's the worst thing you can hear when you get. Oh, fuck that crowd.

They don't get you. That's the worst.

Oh, no.

God damn it. Okay, well, let's let him wrap up.
He's been good. He put in his hours.

He put in his hours.

So, this is a podcast? I don't know.

We'll edit it. We'll see.
This will be six minutes. Yeah, I mean, how, like, how, what?

You sit through it and you edit it? No, we don't edit anything. How long are the

seven hours? No, they're usually about an hour-ish. Okay.
So we just went over an hour, ten. Okay.

Are you angling for more money? Yeah.

Are you amazed how disorganized and amateurish we are? Well, I thought they were.

I know, I actually, the fact that you guys, I saw you guys get these chairs out of your cars.

We're on a budget. Flanny is tight.

So I was impressed with that. Very impressed.
No, I like it. I'm a little nervous talking to Zach.
It's fun. It's great to see you.
I don't see you much.

Always fun to see you on stuff. And it's great.
No bullshit.

We butter our people up, but we're sincere. You know, you're one of the

Mount Rushmore all-time comedians. These are funny of our generation.

Interesting, dude. Always interesting.

I draw a line between you and Will Farrell only in the sense of the commitment because Will said no one will ever out-commit me. But you commit, no one can out-commit you.
Well,

Will is one of those guys jesus that the way he

goes and and even does like side bits when you're at work that

he i can't he was he that man is i remember when we were working together at the time it was the um terrible yeah then there was the news was the terrible uh penn state

uh

yeah

And Will's a big sports fan and he was following that stuff. And I,

at that time, I was working on getting

the statue of

who's Penn State's coach? Paterno. Paterno.
I wanted to put that in Will's Yard.

I'm a big Molester fan. I was following that case, too.

This is going to be a very interesting podcast.

You're revealing yourself. It's

supposed to be authentic. I know.
These are all just, I don't know.

Where Largo, it doesn't matter.

It's Largo, but no but thanks thanks Zach

thanks David thanks Zach thank you very much thanks to the audience thank you

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