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Sup, gigglers.

Gary, fix the Wi-Fi.

Manifest that shit.

We can't be managed.

I mean, the day just got away from me.

What's up, my Galeano gigglers?

Did I just see a TikTok of it?

Two seconds prior, Hannah's.

Who's Galeano?

Wait, Galeano.

Was he a painter?

No, that's Michelangelo.

Okay,

can we get into it?

Because I hung out with Paige all morning and we weren't podcasting.

And she's like, do not ask me about anything.

And I'm like, don't ask me about anything.

She's like, I wasn't going to.

I know, we couldn't talk about it.

Like, we literally couldn't speak to each other.

We had to just make weird eye contact.

But now, I want to ask, how was Paris?

Because you

previously you'd been, but you like, it was quick, you cried in a hotel or something.

I'd only gone to Paris twice before and with two different boyfriends.

Whore.

Um,

and honestly, some of the worst times I've ever had.

But

if someone's gonna ruin Paris, it's a man.

No, it's a man.

I know that I cried both times I was there.

Here's the bright side of that.

I don't remember why.

And so that I feel like that's on growth.

That's a win.

But also like so chic to cry in Paris.

I will say Paris is the only city that I can go to that genuinely makes me pissed off at New York City.

Any other city that I go to, I'm like, oh my God.

I love living in New York.

Thank God I live in New York.

Paris, I'm like.

New York City should be ashamed of themselves.

Like

ashamed.

Explain.

Everything is so vibey.

They have restaurants that have been around.

Like literally, me and my glam, Mitchell, Taylor, Josephine, and my mom went out to dinner.

So you want full housewives with the glam.

No, I'm different.

I went to Paris Fashion Week.

Treat me differently.

So we're out to dinner one night, and Taylor's like ordering dessert.

And she's like, asks the waitress, she's like, how's the souffle?

And the souffle was, and the waitress was like, well, the souffle has been on the menu since 1492.

So I'd say pretty good.

You're like, okay.

It stood the test of time.

Funniest part from my end of you being in Paris was there was a moment where Paige is going to Paris.

I was going to Pittsburgh.

Yeah.

Which is, some would say, the Florence of the Midwest.

Some would say.

Some would say.

And we had to jump on a Zoom, which was, I am so sorry you had to jump on a Zoom while you were in Paris.

Oh, I didn't mind at all.

But you guys, she doesn't sleep.

She works, works, works, works, works, works.

And she gets there, and there's a moment on the Zoom where I don't know what the angle or the lighting was, but our hotel rooms for a split second looked very similar.

And when I tell you,

they were not similar hotel rooms by any means.

But in that moment, I was like, we look like we could be in the same place.

But no, I was in Pittsburgh.

Shout out to Pittsburgh.

I had an incredible time.

Incredible time.

Greatest city.

I did nap there.

Wait, so, but then, what about the food?

What did you eat?

Like, did you have a croissant?

Of course.

I had so many croissants.

And what was the best thing that I ate?

Oh, I had, have you ever had Beef Wellington?

Oh, I thought that was British.

It sounds British.

It does sound British.

Is it British?

I don't know.

Is it beef with like crust on it?

It's beef that's wrapped in like a puff pastry.

Oh my god, I got it right.

It was so fucking good.

I like literally almost teared up.

And then I had a creme brulee.

I had a creme brulee that I've never, I mean, it was like no creme brulee I've ever had.

Well, now you can't, like, this is the problem with going to Paris.

Now you'll never enjoy creme brulee in America again.

And that's never.

That's like the fight you have to fight.

It was my mom's first time in Paris.

So Saturday night we went to this restaurant that like

it was like this Japanese really, it was so vibey inside and you had like a direct view of the Eiffel Towers like right out the window.

So it was like, it was just so, it was the best.

There's something about going on a trip with your mom, just the two of you in your 30s.

Like,

I really highly recommend, even just like one night, even if you just did like a staycation in a hotel with your mom,

it's very emotional because there's a moment where you're like, okay, the first night we were getting ready for bed and like I put my face mask on to sleep and then she put like eye patches on to sleep and then she like taped her forehead and I was like oh my god I didn't know you do this stuff before bed and she was like looked at me like basically like yeah

still a girl like what like also she's like you're the replica I'm the original baby she's like I'm the blueprint okay like what how do you think you got this way

that's so funny though because Lenore before bed is she's reading a book.

She's like, you know, washing her face, double cleansing.

She's winding down.

She's winding down.

She puts lotion on her hands.

Like, she's one of the, like, I feel like all moms do that.

And I'm just, you know,

scrolling,

sending memes to people.

Like, throw me a makeup wipe.

No, literally.

Then I run out of it, and then I'm like fighting the towel, and then it's black everywhere.

Some eyeliners do not get off easily.

But anyway, back to my questioning about Paris.

Yeah.

Can we acknowledge this moment of you were rubbing shoulders or rubbing tiny elbows?

Yeah, I was air kissing.

Air kissing with the fashion elite.

Now, I know you've done stuff with fashion in New York, but Paris Fashion Week has a gene sequence.

Can you explain?

It's a totally different vibe.

Like, what was the vibe?

There's something just so much fancier about Paris.

Like, even walking down the streets, like, The older women in Paris, like, I know it was Fashion Week, but this was just like their everyday.

They're different.

Like, this, there was this, like, older woman.

She was walking by me, and she had just this full, like, poofy, polka-dotted skirt on, and like a denim jacket.

And I was just like, oh my God, you're so Paris.

And she was just like on the phone, like, talking French.

Like, but that was just like her outfit for the day.

Yeah.

And they'll just be like holding baguettes sometimes, right?

You've seen the business.

There's, they're holding baguettes.

They have like croissant like laws, I feel.

Like, there's certain croissants that are made with margarine and there's certain croissants that are made with butter and like they take it seriously yeah yeah yeah it's like getting oat milk or like regular milk wrong in your order your day's ruined they still don't know what iced coffee is but i don't judge them for that like you know i pick my battles

but

I just, it really, being there really made me angry at New York City.

Like, New York City has truly lost the plot in a lot of ways.

And And I just, like, even a building in Paris that should be like a janky building that's like whatever is still like gorgeous.

No, well, Paris is chic.

Everywhere you look, there's just like it's tasteful.

Like, there was a building, and I was like, oh my God, let me take like pictures in front of this.

And then I was like, what is this building?

They're like, it's a doctor's office.

Like,

we don't want to do it.

You're like, we cute.

I need a shit.

I'm like, this is gorgeous.

They're like, this is a dentist.

I went to Italy once when I was 14 to play a tennis tournament, and I didn't really see anything.

And then, I mean, anyway, then I've been to Ireland a couple times, which I'm obsessed with.

But like, Paris is like my, the only European city I've like been to.

And I, like, did you do any vintage shopping?

Okay, so Sunday.

I know you were very busy at YSL.

Sunday, my mom woke me up at like the crack of dawn because she wanted to go to church at Notre Dame.

and like I got I get it like she wanted to see it she's very Catholic she's very religious and like as I'm like so angry inside because I'm like it's 7 a.m

and so like as we're walking in I look at her and I'm like wait you're not even gonna understand this you don't speak French

like why are we here

She's like, it's for the ambiance.

It's for the vibes.

I'm like, we could have just like walked in and seen it.

And then we walk out.

And I'm like, okay, like, did you love it?

And she looked at me and she was like, honestly, St.

Patrick's Cathedral, I think, is like more impressive.

I was like, oh my God.

No, when moms guilt trip you to wake up early because they want to do something.

And like Notre Dame had had like a fire.

Oh yeah, it's still like under construction, right?

And so, and I know that like one of the things my mom loves to do is like light a candle for someone, like go into any church and like light a candle.

And I was like, oh, like, do they have candles here?

And she looked at me and she was like they had a fire no they don't

like as if i had offended the i was like okay

sorry when i went to paris with my mom what's like the big triangle thing

the louve

yeah the louvre yeah

so um by the way i did download duolingo and practice french for a day but the louvre um

i there was like this crazy line and like all she wanted to do was go to the louvre and i looked at her i was like mom

let's go to a nice restaurant.

Yeah.

Talk shit.

And on me.

Yeah.

And we, and let's just take some photos outside the Louvre.

Let's do the little like my finger on the top of it.

And she was like, 100%.

And I was like, oh, thank God.

Cause that would have been like six hours.

And then apparently, when you go in, the art is like really small.

It's like meeting a celebrity when you like, you're like, why are you so small?

You're like, why does your Wikipedia say six foot?

Because baby, no.

It was okay.

Where's the body?

Kim did make me go to

a museum and then we went to lunch and then we were going to go vintage shopping because I had like a list of places I want to go.

But I got too caught up in the here and now stores.

You know?

And so I had like allotted.

Yeah.

I hadn't allotted my time correctly.

That's where Des and I got into a fight because when we were in Paris, I was like, I'm going to go shopping.

And I was like, we need to go to like these designer stores.

And he goes, first of all, you live next to Soho.

Yeah.

You can go to any of these fucking stores.

And I was like, no, it's a different.

And I really, really feel like they get different stuff.

But then also, I didn't have the balls to buy anything because I'm cheap.

So he kept being like, why are you going and pretending to buy something again?

And then I finally called you and you like told me to buy something.

Wait, how was Vic Vicki?

Victoria was a freaking dream.

And you know her documentary is coming out Thursday.

It's iconic because she

was like featured in her husband's documentary, and I think it like went kind of well.

And then she was like, and now I'm going to do a real fucking documentary about my side of the story, okay?

Because she's iconic, she's also hilarious, and people don't realize that.

I don't think she's

extremely funny, extremely, yeah, because she has that like British dry sense of humor.

They're just like naturally funny.

I will say, I was sitting at the show, and I watched all of her family members walk in.

Sorry, there was a moment where I was looking at her one young son, and I was just like, oh, actually, this is pedophilia.

I can't look at him.

This is like inappropriate.

How old is he?

I think he's like 19, maybe 20.

Wait, so the kids are like beautiful?

Gorgeous.

I mean, beautiful.

I mean, they're just like a great-looking family.

Was David there?

Yeah, of course.

What do you think about he's a supportive king?

Yeah, what do you think about Zaddie David?

I mean, he's so hot.

They're just such a good-looking couple, and you can tell that he likes supports her

so much.

And okay, here's the celebrities that I saw that were there: Eva Longoria,

Olivia Munn,

Sophia Vergara, Anna Wintour,

and that's just who I saw.

Yeah.

But also, like, it was so chic when you pulled.

First of all, it was raining, which like I was excited for because I'm like, oh, Paris in the rain.

So when you pulled up, there were all these like beautiful men.

Kissing random.

Here's the other thing.

Yeah.

Here's the other thing.

French men are so hot.

And also, I like a grumpy man.

So like pissed off French men is the energy I like.

In America, if you approach me with a man bon, truly see yourself out.

Yeah.

In France, I'm with it.

I'm here for it.

I'm like, it's your favorite.

They'll say speaking French is just for women.

Absolutely.

So like, I don't like the, when they start to talk about it.

Don't talk to me when you're talking about.

Don't talk.

Yeah.

Don't talk.

Okay, so you get out of the car and there's like all these beautiful men holding holding umbrellas to like escort you in.

And then you like walk through this like little like outdoor, you like go through these gates, then it's like outdoor until you get to the building.

And I'm like, what is this building?

I think it was like an old, it's like a government building or something where it was like an old hospital.

Literally, it was like an old hospital.

And I was like, it's stunning.

Like every building there is just the prettiest building you've ever seen in your life.

Here's the other thing though.

I love being Italian.

So like I really enjoyed it, but I love being Italian and I love my people and I love

Italy more.

And that was for the UN if they're listening.

Yeah.

Because there's just a realness

in

Italy.

I feel like that there isn't other places.

I also do think that like if we have to leave America,

Sicily.

Sicily could be good.

Like by the water.

I'm going to try and get my Italian passport.

It's really important to me.

A cannoli by the water.

Well, I knew when I was in Pittsburgh,

by the way, beautiful.

Like incredible British.

It was stunning.

The architecture.

But I

Uber

in

these other cities

is such an adventure.

When you get in an Uber, if it is a white man, he will talk to you about how he lost his kids.

But he is going to see them on the weekend.

But dating is really difficult because it's the same three women in his area.

And I was invested.

I was like, well, what are we going to do about it, Steve?

Yeah.

What are we going to do?

And have you been going to court-ordered therapy?

And then I ordered Uber Eats.

And the courier, it was like, definitely taking a long time, but I was like, no rush, it's fine.

And I check it.

This man was walking.

How many?

How many miles?

A lot of miles.

But at that point, I was like, babe.

No bike?

No bike.

Just walk.

I didn't know couriers could just walk.

I thought you had to have a bike.

I thought that was illegal.

Not even roller skates?

Maybe put some pep in your step and even a light jacket.

You freeze your skate.

Not a jog?

Not even a light jog.

Wait, that's

diabolical.

I could have picked it up if you were going to walk.

How long did it take?

I mean, it probably took like an hour total, but this guy, I felt bad, but maybe he was just getting his steps in.

Honestly, he definitely got 10,000 steps.

You're walking for an hour, that's 10,000.

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I actually ordered McDonald's in Paris.

How was it?

Phenomenal.

Here's the thing though.

One thing I noticed in in Paris, they're obsessed with bacon.

Like they put bacon on like all their salad.

I'm like, guys, I don't need it on my cheeseburger.

Well, hot take, I love the breakfast, and then it can be like

hit or miss.

Well, everything there is really

heavy.

Yeah, they love fruits.

Like you can't go, like, you couldn't go to Paris for more than four days and eat breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

You'd feel

you'd have to check yourself into the hospital.

Well, that's why they're, they're all just chain smoking cigarettes.

Chain smoking.

I've never seen, here's the other thing.

The streets don't make any sense.

I don't know how they drive there.

Like once I think it's a one-way and then it's not,

it doesn't make any sense to me.

That's how normal streets feel for me, but continue.

Everyone's smoking cigarettes in their car.

Which I'm like, oh, interesting.

No, it's not chic and I need pop stars to stop with the cigarettes.

I'm gonna be that mom.

Wait, why?

Cigarettes are making like such a

Instagram.

And can I say something?

Yeah.

People forget history.

Yeah.

People forget history.

And now we're just starting over with people forgetting that cigarettes kill people.

If you smoke cigarettes, you die and you will get an STD.

I don't know why that's becoming like such a trend.

And like even girls like putting it in their Instagram page.

I know, and it's like the cool girls too here's the thing in europe i'm not i i like to have a good time i'm not a prude if someone offers me a skinny sig in paris after i just had like a couple cocktails i'm gonna smoke it but i'm not gonna promote

smoking it on my instagram well i certainly look some of my friends will like post and i'm like okay who cares

But I feel like I'm not gonna promote that because we have like 16 year old girls that follow us.

But I'm just very surprised that it's become so much more common than it used to be.

Do you think Big Tobacco has a deal with Charlie XEX?

I think Big Tobacco is really beefing with like vaping.

And they're like, oh yeah.

Yeah.

Well, Big Tobacco, I wonder if some of these influences are sponsored by Big Tobacco because some of them, I'm like, this is a cigarette ad.

Charlie XEX smoking a cigarette.

She's European.

I don't, I'm not mad at her about that.

Since you brought up Charlie XEX,

this episode is like pure, pure intense drama.

Let's bring this to you.

This is a stream of consciousness.

Yeah.

Do you think that Taylor Swift was making a diss track to Charlie XEX?

Oh my god, great.

And what do you think of diss tracks in general since Cardi B and Nikki Minaj are diss tracking back and forth?

Is it diss tracking or are they just tweeting?

I think think they're doing a little bit of both.

A little bit of both.

Okay.

I

love,

I think a diss track is fun.

I prefer it to like tweet fighting.

I think the diss track at least gets some art out of it.

I liked when it was just the men doing like rap diss tracks because I'm like, that's so them.

I'm actually upset that it's like

gone over into the girls because I almost felt like, wow women are like so above that like they don't put out diss tracks and now

I feel like this is what I think it's gonna become more of a thing I like diss tracks for men because it's basically just poems that they're doing and that they're writing for each other that they're writing for each other and that's like

adorable that's adorable and they're like this rhymes and it was kind of mean and everyone's like oh but you're right I don't like the women doing it to each other.

It's my same, this is my rule with reality TV.

If you're gonna fight, fight with the men.

If you're gonna get in a blow-out fight, do it towards a man.

I want a diss track towards the men.

But if the girls, sometimes, like, they're like, it's good marketing for both of them.

And maybe that's good to support women in the arts.

That's true.

And here's the thing I don't like about Nikki and Cardi beefing.

I know.

They're bringing their children into it.

And I'm like, oh, they're going to see that one day.

And it's like...

I don't like that.

Well, also, because Cardi and Nikki are two of the greatest rappers who ever lived.

And like, I could never pick.

We don't have to choose one.

I could never.

Yeah, it just, it's like, we want enough room for all the women.

And again, and then the Taylor and the

Taylor and Charlie XTX, all the girls are fighting.

We're all like fighting for a spot.

And it's like, this is why men, the patriarchy, still exists, because we're trying to take each other down.

And Gwen Stefani is fighting bread.

Like, Gwen Stefani.

Wait, who's Gwen Stefani fighting?

I'm just saying, Gwyneth Paldrow is fighting bread.

Fighting who?

Bread.

Actually, no, I think when Gwyneth Palcho came out and said that she was like...

Eating bread again?

Yeah.

Oh, so if Gwyneth Paltrow squashed her beef with bread, we can stop fighting other women.

Also, with the Taylor Charlie stuff.

Do you think it's a distract?

I don't know enough of the lore between them to make a conscious

decision on it.

Here's the one thing I'll say about Taylor Swift.

If it is,

she kind of ate with the fact that, like, yeah, nobody loves you more than the girl that absolutely fucking hates you.

Like, no one,

no one tries to copy you more or be you more than the girl that hates you.

But that is so true.

So, like, I act, and I feel like girls can

like resonate with that.

And I do think the song, like, people are resonating with it.

It's not, like, so specific, like, where they're like, hey, at Cardi B, you stupid bitch.

Like, right.

It was kind of a general thing, but the cocaine mention, I think, was, like, at Charlie B.

And I would argue that I give more credit to Nikki and Cardi because they're like, no, I hate you.

Or, like, if Taylor is talking about it, I kind of wish she would have said it with her chest.

Said it with her chest.

Now, this is coming from someone who didn't listen to the album.

Wait, I'm in deep with the album.

Like, I have so many.

Babe, wait.

Did you listen to every song?

I listen.

Well, I've been flying on planes all weekend.

It's like all the time.

And you don't believe in entertainment on flights.

No, so just me and my Delta headphones listening to Swims.

I have so many thoughts.

And I'm a fan.

And look, I like Charlie XTX.

I like Taylor Swift.

And I do like, I think the people coming on the internet and making like dissertations on how it's the worst album ever like get a hobby.

But also the people that are like going on the internet and crying about how it's the best thing they've ever heard also get a hobby.

So like I'm kind of like in the middle.

That's that's a valid point extremist extremism extremism is not for me extremism is bad I can like songs and whatever

I do have to say

this is something like her 12th album and she's only 35 and iconic I I love that like someone's putting out art

And like I would imagine she puts this out and then decides, because of the blowback, because some people didn't like it, I'm like, she doesn't have to put it on album.

Also, it's art.

Like, you don't have to like it and her still make a billion dollars.

Yeah, like,

it's like she didn't have to put herself up for all this criticism, and she did.

So, I'm like, grateful that, like, she's doing that.

The only thing I'll say is

I am still shocked that she announced her, I still haven't gotten over it, that she announced her album on a male sports podcast.

Like, that I still can't believe she did that.

I just feel like that's so not her.

I think she's like madly and is in like so clocked into this.

The product, she made me laugh.

Like she's funny.

She is funny.

She's funny and very smart.

And then she, but there was this one story she said that I just have to raise awareness about.

She said when she sold her masters, she went to go find Travis who was playing video games.

We don't talk about that enough.

No, people are sportsmen.

When they're not playing the sport, they play pretend sports against each other.

And you know this man has a headset.

and wait he's 36.

do you know that i've never dated a guy who was really ever into video games it's actually so actually i've never

either but i have friends who have like andy murray who's one of the best tennis players ever lived his wife almost divorced him because he was so addicted to video games like because you know how it's annoying when like your man's on his phone By the way, when I'm on my phone, I'm doing research, but when he is, you're like, hello, I'm telling you a story that you probably heard before.

This might be like my own internal thing, but I'm never mad when I'm being left alone.

Sorry, I actually can't relate because, like, I can occupy myself.

It's more like when I have a thought that I want to say, it's more being ignored.

Yeah, and I have to wait for him to finish texting.

I'm like, who is so ignorant?

Yes.

Well, I like, this is comedic timing.

Like, I had the moment.

We're losing the moment.

I'm going to forget what I'm going to say.

I have ADHD and now I'm mad at you.

Yeah.

and that's just a Tuesday but um

oh yeah we had Travis Kelsey playing video games I just have to say Taylor it was so relatable that she's like my he was playing video games I had to wake him up and I'm like Taylor Swift is in your house you should be watching her make sourdough bread what do you mean you're playing video games you should be listening to her play guitar The other thing that was crazy was that like she was obviously like going on podcasts and doing like press for her album.

And I think she was on like a British podcast or something or like radio show.

And the guy was

no, no, no, different.

And the guy was like, oh, there's like rumors that this is your last album because you're like getting married.

And she said, what a wildly offensive

thing to say.

Like, that's not like the reason the majority of women get married.

Like, what?

And here you have Taylor Swift, who is a self-made billionaire, who has topped, who has done so many, like,

broken so many

whatever the first of anyone to do all these different things and she and she is getting defined by like oh well you're travis kelsey's fiancé like oh the the

you're married now so you can't work because it's like what's different i have a ring on my finger now what you think is like weighing me down or that she has to now like tend to her husband it's great that she like stood up for herself there are also people are doing like think pieces on like some of the lyrics being like trad wifey or whatever or her.

Like, yeah.

No, I do have to say,

if you don't listen to the lyrics, which I'm gonna be honest, I don't, I'm not in it for that.

Yeah.

Um, there's a lot of like, okay, I'm like deep in Taylor Swift lore right now.

Okay, wow.

So basically,

apparently, of the Swifties, there's like the ones who love like Evermore and Love and Lover and

folk and So like the sadder folklore songs they love like the folk like her like talking like lyrically whatever um I was a girl who liked like red like I liked reputation like I like I like just like poppy boppy so like

one thing about this album and I feel like everyone can see to an extent yeah some of these songs you cannot get out of your head like it's kind of like I listened to it to twice and I'm like trying to go to sleep and I can't stop stop hearing it.

She has some some Taylor crack cocaine that she borrowed from Charlie XAX in these.

They're very poppy.

I do think with Taylor her songs are look at me going full talking.

No, you're going full full dissertation and then I have to change the subjects because I actually can't anymore.

I just feel like she, it's like her journal.

It's like her therapy.

So it's like, yes, she wouldn't say these things, but it's like her expressing her like deepest thoughts.

And that's what I, one argument I have to say about people being like, oh, it's not good lyrics.

I don't know if it ever, like, long-term, like, remember her song, like, Welcome to New York?

Like, that was not a lyrical.

It was like, Welcome to New York.

Yeah, that's it.

We've been waiting for you.

Welcome to New York.

Like, I was like, okay, cool.

Like, shake it, whatever.

Wait, like, does she have to be Shakespeare every time?

No, I think the point is that it's cool that she writes the music.

Yeah.

Now, look, I'm deep in Nashville also.

Oh, so you're dialed in.

Are you still watching Nashville?

You know, I kind of fell off a little bit.

Did you watch the first season?

I'm not done with the first season.

Okay.

But I'll catch up.

Okay.

I know we like have this show together and then like I feel like a bad boyfriend.

Like I.

Well, I paused because like something happened that I was like,

but I'm like working through it.

Okay, I'll get back on the train because...

I actually rarely watch movies.

Like I'm really more of like a show.

You are.

Not to bring up Taylor Swift again, but I'm a showgirl.

Also, Nashville has like 28 episodes in the first season.

I know, which is really, really good for my mental health.

Yeah.

But I watched this show.

Didn't I talk about this on the pod?

About the show, the movie Swiped on Hulu?

Yeah, I brought it up, but I don't know if you want to detail.

I urge everyone to go and watch the movie Swiped on Hulu.

It's based off the woman who created Bumble.

No, the lore, first of all, she's one of the founders of Tinder.

Okay.

They basically cut her out because she was dating the other founder of tinder like one of the guys and he was being like super abusive super unprofessional sending her all these like now granted this is like tinder wait i feel like we talked about this on the pod you you did you did but i didn't want to stop you Okay, never mind.

Sorry.

Oh, no, it's okay.

Go watch it.

It's so good, but it's basically about like a woman getting revenge on like her ex-boyfriend and then like basically creating like a way better app and becoming like a billionaire.

And I'm just like really obsessed with all things Whitney Wolfe heard, but she really can't talk about anything because she's under an NDI, which I also just like love.

But Lily James plays her and it's just so good.

Lily James Depp?

Oh no.

No.

No.

You guys, we are a pop culture podcast, okay?

No.

Wait, can can I say something to raise awareness for female stand-up comedians?

Yes.

Okay, so I always think about how, like,

it's so difficult for female stand-up comedians to exist.

And one of the reasons is because when you start in the stand-up community, you're like one of the few girls and you're just surrounded by men all the time.

So inevitably...

It's your coworkers.

So inevitably, you start dating like one of the cute male stand-ups.

When you break up, which you inevitably do, because they live on...

Say inevitably one more time.

At least it's not essentially.

That shit is so annoying.

But

inevitably, you date someone

and you break up.

Then that dude tells all his friends, don't book her on the show.

Don't book her on the show.

And these were all your friends.

So there's so many women who have trouble making it in stand-up comedy, like in New York City, because they dated a stand-up once.

And then all the boys turn their back on them.

And next thing you know, know, they can't get stage time.

They feel awkward when they walk into clubs.

They don't want to be funny because it's hard to be funny when all these men are staring at you and not rooting for you.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say this is way more relatable than to just stand-up

comedy.

Women get like, obviously, such a bad rep of like, they're crazy.

My ex-girlfriend's crazy.

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Every single boyfriend I've ever had that I've broken up with,

I'm not kidding you, Hannah.

Every single one since I was 19 years old, after I broke up with them, in some way, shape, or form, they have tried to fuck me over or exile me from something or called a club and was like, don't ever let her in again.

Oh my god.

Or like,

every single one has done something that I've then had to be like, hey, sorry, we actually broke up and

this is why he's doing this.

Like,

and I've never done any revenge because I believe in karma more than I believe in revenge.

And I think that if you do something to me, it's going to come back to you 10 times worse than I could have ever.

Girls, write that down.

Yeah.

Write that down.

I believe in karma more than revenge.

That's happened to me before.

And I believe.

In that moment, you want to be like, oh, he's fucking with me.

I need to fuck him.

But when you step back, like, that is so sinister of him to do.

The universe doesn't reward that, like, and you trying to fuck with him is just getting in the mud with another with pigs, like, you're just playing, getting dirty.

So, like, let these men try taking.

I don't believe in actively trying to fuck someone over because I think karma is like so much stronger.

I do believe in revenge based on just doing better than them in general, and I think that is like a better approach.

But that is so fragile.

I do have to say, like, there have been times where a guy or a friend has done something to hurt me that

lit a fire under my ass to do stuff that I didn't even care about.

Yeah.

Like,

they didn't realize that they didn't care.

They threw dirt on my name and flowers grew.

Like, you don't realize I didn't even want to do what I did, but you're the reason.

When people try to destroy you,

it makes you actually see yourself in a better light.

It's more, like, if no one cares about you, like, that's also annoying.

That pisses me off.

But when someone cares so much to try to hurt you, I'm like, oh, there's something special about you.

No, they're in love with you.

Don't forget that.

And Taylor Swift was.

They're in love with you.

Now, I am interested to see if Charlie XCX

does something.

Like, did she listen?

Like, okay, because you know when someone does something to you and you're like, oh my God, I know they're talking about me.

Or like, I know that's about me.

Yeah.

Do you think that Charlie was like, oh, that's 100% about me?

And you think she'll retaliate?

Well, this is the thing.

in the music business.

If she were to retaliate, she would get a shit ton of streams.

So like

business-wise, I think she might.

Or she's gonna, the next album she puts out, she'll put like one or two lyrics that sound like maybe.

I always do think it's so fun, though, when someone like makes up a lie about you or like really comes for your throat and then you just don't acknowledge it because it's not true and you're just not gonna give it energy.

Like that's so embarrassing for them.

No, it's actually one of my most favorite things to do because I'm like you can't even say anything because you know you're lying so you can't even like really go into detail because there are none yeah but like and and i'm sitting here because i like genuinely don't care We're having such a savage episode today.

I don't know what's in the water.

Well, you want to know what?

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Also, your nails are red.

I went red for Paris.

I feel like it deserved it.

You know, that's triggering for me.

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Okay, wait, back to TV for a minute.

Oh, yeah.

Did you watch the new, like, series, the new season of Monster about Ed Gein?

Ed Gein.

So I was unfamiliar unfamiliar with his work.

As was I.

As was I.

Now, do I hate them like

glorifying these monsters?

Yes.

Do I love watching it?

Yes.

Does it remind me my day could have been worse?

Yes.

Does it make life more about perspective and it helps me sleep at night?

Yes.

Is that my own issue?

Yes.

Anyway,

so he basically was the inspiration behind like the movie Psycho, which was like the first ever horror

thriller.

I didn't sex thriller.

I didn't didn't know.

I didn't know that was like that.

What they create, that genre was created by Alvard Hitchin.

Texas Chainsaw Massacre was inspired by him because he had so many different sick things that he did that they had like multiple genres from it.

Yeah.

And there was also another movie that he inspired, A Leatherface.

Yeah.

So this guy, what's with them all being from Wisconsin?

What's going on?

Go Badgers.

Go Badgers.

Go Badgers.

Bucky.

What's happening?

It's cold, so there's not a lot to do.

And they're like, should we cut someone up?

Okay, here's, I, obviously, sick sick man, mental problems, mental issues, all of the things.

I started to get really nervous about my own self when I was watching it because I had a moment where I was like, oh, he's killing people, but he, he's not torturing them.

Like, he's killing.

Like, he's killing them and they don't even know they're about to get killed

and like when you hear about like his childhood and like his mom you're like oh he had no option other than to be a fucking psychopath and so like i didn't i think he did i didn't feel bad for him at all like i'm not saying that i felt bad for him and they said that he had like a gentleness to him which is why he kept getting babysitting gigs i was on tick tock last night like he he spoke really softly and he was he was kind i almost feel like if he didn't be if he didn't if his schizophrenia didn't come out he probably would have been just like a nice Midwestern guy.

But because he had,

like, he wasn't treating schizophrenia, like, it just took over.

He just, he could, there's nothing he could have done.

So for you guys who don't know,

apparently his mom was super religious and like told him all girls are evil and she just has to love him.

And she brainwashed him.

She brainwashed him.

And then

when she died, he was.

left just like obsessed with her and missing her and almost wanting to be here because like he would cross-dress, but he wasn't.

And I did look up because there was this thing where it was like he would have sex with dead bodies.

I looked up.

That wasn't like confirmed.

So he's a good guy.

No, but like he would,

no, no.

Let's not go there.

Let's not go there.

He's a sick, sick man who tortured.

No, he made lampshades out of people's skin.

Honestly.

They were dead at the time.

Yes, and the sewing work was

incredible.

It's it's just sick, but it does make you feel better about yourself.

You're like, okay, I have a little OCD.

No shame.

I'm like, okay, so I get, I have a panic attack once a year.

No big deal.

I gotta take a pill.

But apparently, if you want to look deeper into it, there's like an Ed Guine tape thing.

No, he's sick.

And I'm sorry for saying that like I felt bad for him.

I didn't feel bad for him, but I was just like, he could have been saved.

Like, if he had modern medicine and therapy and, like, a normal upbringing, like, I think he could have been saved.

I don't think he would have turned into this monster.

Yeah, yeah.

The schizophrenic stuff was hard to come back from once.

Apparently, it happens, like, in your early 20s sometimes.

You'll be like onset.

That's why we need to have kids because there's too many crazy people like procreating, making monsters.

And we need to have children and make nice normal humans wait that is the big nicest compliment you ever gave me because i feel like when does that thing i can't wait till your child can like

tell jokes because i'm i know i'm gonna be laughing at that kid so sarcastic i'm gonna be like what did you say i can't wait for the first time my daughter like looks someone up and down and is like that's what she picked to wear mom and i'm like i know

Keep it in your side.

Like, I can't wait for the first time she offends someone.

I'm like, you can't say that.

You can't say that.

Also, when kids offend you, it hurts on such a deeper level.

Because

there's pure honesty.

Yeah.

Earnest.

Also, one more thing about Ed Gein.

Yeah.

Just like as a Hollywood

note,

I think he would have been bigger if they changed his name.

Like, Ted Bundy, great name.

Great name.

Zodiac Killer, great name.

Ed Gein doesn't roll off the tongue.

It didn't.

He didn't get hit.

For how many things were like based off of him?

This was the first time I'd i'd ever heard his name yeah his pr didn't do a great job no get a let's what do you cat pr company like let's let's get better um not great not great i got wisconsin didn't have a good ad agency at the time but i do think um i want to bring something up about our minds yeah we were on another meeting where we were both on my computer and you started embarrassing me in front of everyone being like oh my god you have so many tabs open i'm sorry

i thought we were in america

i thought we had freedom of speech.

Also, we have

a lot of tabs open?

No, Hannah.

I have no tabs open.

I have the tab that I'm currently working on and no tabs open unless I have to remember something.

I also have zero emails and zero text messages.

That's the type of person that I am.

I'm

shocked.

When you online shop, you don't have like 4,000 tabs open and then like don't know if you want to buy it and you leave it open and you're afraid to X out of it in case you like have a curated oh you just buy it decisive I just buy it you just buy it

I deal with that problem when it comes then I'm like return it so I can't no see I have like 500 Zara tabs open no because then if I get a notification like something you added to your cart is like running out then like the anxiety of that I have to then I have to go buy it and I'm like I can't have other people have it and I not have it no it's wait this is crazy our computers really are like our rooms because you see chaos.

I have it actually, like, I know every single tab.

And if someone X'd out of this, I'd be like, I lost everything.

Like, I have everything organized in the most like unorganized way.

And everything for me has a home.

Everything has a place.

That's what my mom said.

She said, everybody needs to have a home.

Yeah.

Oh my God.

I'm so proud of you.

Any of you clear?

I also think that your bedroom is a reflection of the inside of your mind.

And so like, I can't fall asleep if like I have clothes all over, if my closet door is open.

Like, I need things to be serene for like my brain to calm down.

Do you ever feel like you'd rather lay down though instead of clean, and you, like, you don't have to, so you just don't?

No, because if I'm laying down, I physically, it gives me like anxiety that there's things around.

And that's depression versus anxiety.

And that's 101.

And that's how we're relatable yet different.

No, we literally textbooks suffer.

You have depression.

I have anxiety.

That's crazy, Hannah.

But sometimes we dabble.

Like, I, girl, you know I dabble in anxiety.

Totally.

I haven't been depressed in a while, though.

Knock on wood.

Okay, humble brag.

Yeah, now I'm here.

Since I'm on tour, shout out.

Everyone see me in Phoenix and Vegas this weekend.

My mom's coming.

My question to you is, when you have like a nine o'clock flight, and let's say you land at like 11.30 noon, are you drinking coffee beforehand, but then you're like jacked on the flight, like listening to Nashville songs, just like my legs shaking like crazy.

Or do you land and you feel like you have a little headache and you feel off and then you're like going to have trouble sleeping at night?

Or you just don't get affected by caffeine the way I do.

I don't get affected by caffeine the way you do.

I think it's mind over matter.

Like, I think it's,

I think.

She goes, it's called being weak-minded.

I have never been the type, like, people would be like, oh my God, you can drink soda after like eight o'clock.

And I'm like, grow up.

People do hard drugs, you know?

So, I've never people are making lampshades out of people's skin.

You can have Diet Coke.

Get a grip.

So, I've never subscribed to that school of thought.

Like, I can will myself to fall asleep.

Okay.

I know we were talking in the car about how I'm the opposite of Charlie Sheen.

Like, how Charlie Sheen can handle anything and I like, I can't.

But I also think it is mental too.

Like I succumb to it.

It's like when I smoke weed, I just go around asking anyone everyone how to get on high instead of just leaning on the side.

You know you're not good with substances.

Like you can't really you can't be

a caffeine.

I can have a full apple juice.

You get like, yes, you're one of those kids that like like I don't think I was ever affected by sugar as a child.

Like I don't remember it is not on brand for me to be hyper.

Like, I don't think I was ever hyper as a child.

Do you know my mom used to, like, I wouldn't stop like being awake and like talking?

And she would just slowly

press my head down on the pillow.

Press your pillow into your face.

She'd be like, maybe this will make it stop.

But then, and then she would just like kind of softly hold my head down until I fell asleep.

Wait, Sang.

I was literally crazing myself, putting myself in cute set pajamas, getting myself in bed, and then yelling, Mom, I'm in bed.

No, no.

My mom had to dress me in what I was going to wear the next day because it was going to be so chaotic the next morning when I woke up to just know that I was ready.

So that when I room.

No.

See, I was like the opposite.

I was like, mom, where the fuck are my matching socks?

Like, I'll burn this house down.

See, I'm like, I'm not wearing socks.

I don't like how they feel on my toes.

Also, my dad used to do this thing where when I was waking up in the morning, he'd be like, time to wake up.

And obviously, I wouldn't.

Right.

Because

free will.

And then he would do this countdown and he was like, don't let me get to zero.

Which, like, I don't think is a good way to start your day.

And maybe I should talk about it.

He would be like, okay, 10.

Don't make me come in there.

Nine.

And I'd wait till it was like two.

And then I'd be like, wait, were you a child that got like one,

two?

Yes, yes, yes.

That makes a lot of sense.

I was a timeout child.

I had a lot of timeouts.

I also, but then my dad started abusing it.

Like, I would be like 13.

He'd be like, give me the remote.

And I'd be like, no.

And he'd be like, five, four.

And I'm like, you can't use it for this.

You can't.

I didn't do anything wrong.

And he's like, three, do I get to one?

It's so funny because I really don't think I was a child.

Like, no.

Like, I never had one tooth.

I don't, I never like got in trouble.

Did you ever get in trouble in in school?

Never.

You never got in trouble for chatting?

Well, you had to have me in your class because me and you would have been

living in detention.

Like maybe I would get like Paige quiet down, but I never got like Paige as like a problem to have in class.

I was never a problem.

I did get like too chatty and occasionally I would try to like start a revolt.

But otherwise,

like.

I feel like after second grade, I realized like, oh, you need the teachers to like you.

And then I was like, yeah fully on board i was like fuck my friends like i think i was just like so checked out that i was like i don't care like i literally don't give a fuck about this i'm never gonna need it don't care don't care to even get in trouble because i don't want to be here do you know i used to walk to middle school from my house and i would get lost all the time wait that's so new york city it was like six hundred wait at what age did your parents start that you go by yourself

in elementary school me and my brother would walk to school school.

Like, I mean, Park Slope was like

so nice in the 90s.

It was like so beautiful.

I just remember like fall leaves and me and my brother would walk to school.

Wait, that's so sweet.

And it was like three blocks.

Like it wasn't far.

And then all the other kids would be walking to school.

But I remember getting in trouble in school.

And knowing that the teacher was going to try to talk to my mom.

So then I realized if I can get to my mom before her, I could be like, mom,

I want a PPNJ.

Let's get out of here.

And wait you're scheming you're plotting i was like hey mom um real quick can i talk to you for a second can i play for this

and then i

yeah so anyway i figured it out but i was definitely chatty and i would raise my hand all the time which you didn't no i never did well i couldn't read

And that's my villain origin story.

I literally could not read.

These words are coming for me.

I was in in third grade, and I, so I hated school.

And then I just got competitive.

Anyway, I digress.

Why are we doing that?

We digress.

We digress.

You guys, thank you so much for giggling with us on this deep emotional episode of analyzing things and realizing things.

I'm going to be on Jimmy Fallon tomorrow night, so make sure you guys tune in.

And also, Daphne Fall Collection is launching tomorrow.

So 10 a.m.

Obsessed.

Obsessed.

Lock in.

Also get tickets to see me in, I'm going to Wisconsin, where Ed Gein is from.

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We love you guys so much.

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