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Sup, gigglers.

Gary, fix the Wi-Fi.

Manifest that shit.

We can't be managed.

I mean, the day just got away from me.

This podcast is starting at 11-11, which is where our spirit angels want us to be.

Yeah, we're at the right place at the right time.

Welcome, my giggly girls.

I just chugged a Dunkin' Refresher.

Buckle up.

So a lot will be edited.

How are you?

I'm good.

How are you?

I'm good.

I had, you had a full weekend.

Every time I checked the internet, I was like, oh, and she's still working.

And she's still working.

I love when we have to go on the internet to find out about each other.

I love when I get an update on you from the World Wide Web.

The other day I commented on a video of you, but like there were no comments.

There was like seven likes.

I was like, she's perfect.

Everyone's like, Paige, get out of the car.

I love that my feed knows that I love you.

And I just, I'll get your like Amazon lives.

And I'm just like, like, yeah.

Like, anytime something like is about me that's going around the internet that's like not good, I'll call one of my friends and be like, are you getting this in your algorithm?

And they'll be like, absolutely not.

I've trained my algorithm to be obsessed with.

Well, that's so you can check who's like low-key a hater.

Yeah.

If they know the negatives.

But I'm no help because you'll be like, have you seen this?

And I go,

what planet are we on, first of all?

But no, I don't see any negativity.

I see praise.

I see comedy.

I see loyalty.

I see love.

I see girls supporting girls.

Speaking of girls supporting girls, you were with like 8 million men this weekend.

Are you okay?

I've trained my whole life for this moment.

Like, I couldn't, I just want to say to the Academy, I couldn't have done it alone.

I felt everyone, the gigglers' support in this time.

For you guys who don't know what I did this weekend, I got an email that was like, do you want to do stuff for the Ryder Cup?

Which, by the way, I love golf.

This is a sports podcast.

It was a natural fit.

I will say my first initial reaction was,

she's going to a horse competition.

They're jumping over different things and they're running.

They're riding her.

Yeah, and they're riding the cup.

And it was with, and they said Marcelo, who's a longtime friend, and Colin Jost, who I've never met before.

So I was like, this will be fun.

I'm going to make new friends.

So first up, the call time for three days was 3 a.m.

No.

Now, I don't know if you guys know.

That's illegal.

Starting glam at 3 a.m.

is a violent crime.

Yeah.

But then I realized there's something about waking up at 3 a.m.

where like you're not actually that deep in sleep.

Right.

You haven't even hit REM.

It's kind of like, you know, when you're like partying and you take a little nap, but then you like get up and you're like, yeah, I was, I actually didn't fully fall asleep anyway.

I can go.

So 3 a.m.

was kind of my sweet spot.

What time were you going to bed?

So the problem is

I'd go to bed at like 8, but then I'd just like fight with my own thoughts and I'd like think of things that I've like done in the past that I probably like could have done differently.

Perfect.

But then I realized Des loves watching the Mets and he was like, I'll watch the Met game.

You go to bed.

And I was like, well, no, no, no.

The Mets put me to sleep.

Yeah.

Come in here, watch the Mets.

Perfect.

So the Mets.

He probably loved that.

He was probably like, this is

the dream.

We're both asleep by 8 p.m oh des was like welcome to my culture

let me show you what we have on the nightside table at eight o'clock because it's very different than midnight and for people that don't know every night at like nine des is like are you tired and i'm like yeah and he's like you should just go to sleep now and i'm like no my second wave comes at 10 then i have a whole like party like on my own like i have a whole life without you when you go to sleep at 9 p.m so you're

You're a couch person until like your eyes are closing.

And then I

sometimes will be naughty and just be like, what if I just slept on the couch?

Slept on the couch.

And then at 3 a.m.

Because it's like having a sleepover with yourself.

Yes.

And you know what?

At the end of the day, we're just having sleepovers with ourselves every night.

I went through a phase of anxiety where I couldn't go to my bed.

Without the TV on.

No, just like in general, couldn't even go in my bedroom and get in the bed because I was like,

I've seen too much.

I've seen, I know too much.

If these walls could talk.

And so like, I spent like a month on the couch.

And then one day I woke up and I go, I think this is depression.

Also, what are sofas called that like have the long sectionals?

Yeah.

Let's talk about sectionals because I've been waiting for someone to bring this up.

I'm going to bring it up because people are afraid to bring it up.

Sectionals are single-handedly ruining my life.

Yeah.

I wake up in the morning, lie on my sectional, and think, I'm awake.

Why am I so tired?

Because you're not awake.

You're in a different bed.

Yeah.

That's just in your living room.

And that's how I like to live my life.

But at night, it's so easy to fall asleep on my sectional.

Yeah.

And then I'm like, why am I going to wake up?

brush my teeth to get more awake and then try to like what kind of hunger games is this at night you ever like wake up in the middle of the night and you're like i have to peep and i'm going to be like woken up so you try and do it with your eyes closed like you try and walk

and you don't turn the light on because i'm gonna keep this darkness and maybe i'll my brain will think i'm still asleep and also this is coming from two people who are very good at sleeping.

Like, I know some comics who like can't sleep.

I could, the second there's a moving vehicle, I'm like, oh, I'm done.

But the funny thing is, it's the second a man picks a movie, I'm asleep.

I'm like, yeah, let's watch that.

I could catch some Z's, you know?

Right?

Because anytime they're like, I really want to watch this, you're like, perfect.

I'll be asleep in 15 minutes.

Well, Des and I, some of our biggest fights are when we're trying to figure out what to watch, and he'll be like very picky.

And then at one point, it's like 8:30, and I look at him and I go, Why are you even acting like you're even gonna fucking get to the like plot of this movie?

You're falling asleep the first two minutes, you don't get an opinion.

You know, it's even a better feeling saying to a man, like, hey, we're gonna watch the show, them not being really into it, and then 20 minutes in being like,

I love there's like a power that you feel that you're like, yeah, I knew, I knew you'd love this show.

Or they go, why would she do that?

Because I don't want to say they're interested, but they're like trying to understand.

They're like, oh, so that was because of that and i'm like you're in deep i wished as we get into nashville but i haven't even tried to encroach him on it yeah is that a word nice nice you said i made that

encroach if it doesn't mean that it should so um what happened was i have trouble falling asleep when i know

i need to fall asleep yeah like when there's pressure involved then i'm out so i'm like having trouble falling asleep i finally fall asleep at like 11.

i wake up at 12 thinking it's like 255

And yeah, I check.

I realize I've been asleep for 20 minutes and I thought it was already three.

So I wake up at three.

It's pitch black.

My girl's doing glam on me.

I'm apologizing to her profusely because I'm like, this is my fault.

You're here.

And we get to the Ryder Cup.

And I've never been to a live golf game.

And

the energy was

a golf tournament.

Interesting.

I would have assumed you've been to many.

Well, look, Peacock is listening to this.

They're like, interesting.

And that actually makes laughter.

I wasn't in the initial Zoom.

And we should have done some research.

I love watching the golf channel because I am a retired old man deep down.

But watching golf live, there's, it's 18 holes.

And I have to say, I was looking out for you in terms of wag options.

Aesthetics.

Yes.

Justin Thomas, who's one of the top US guys, his wife came up, said she's a giggler.

Shout out Jillian.

We're obsessed with her.

Yeah, but she looks so cute on the green.

But I have to say for Jillian,

this is not a Morgan Riddle situation.

This is not tennis.

Morgan Riddle shows up, sits down

for three, four hours.

And there's waitresses.

There's waitresses.

The lighting is great.

Gorgeous.

She doesn't have to deal with other people.

No.

These whacks

have to follow their husbands for miles

while surrounded by crazy fans who are like, like Roy Mackle, Roy's wife, was getting like verbally assaulted.

Yeah.

And well,

and now you know what it's like being a woman.

And I was just going to say, that's interesting.

In a space full of thousands of men.

The women are getting heckled.

Heckled.

Interesting.

Interesting.

She's not even there performing.

She's like, hi, I'm a supportive patron.

And then I was just thinking of the wags because all the European wags are wearing these tan blazers.

They're all matching.

Like, and then all the American wags wearing the bags always America versus versus versus Europe?

Which is funny because I'm like, okay, so it's one country versus 35 countries.

Who knows?

Who knows?

But that's how we run.

I don't know.

I don't know what that keeps.

I kept asking everyone of Spain's in Europe, and they were like, what are you talking about, ma'am?

And I was like, I don't know.

I actually don't know.

No, you did.

So good.

Like, every clip I saw of you was so good.

And I'm sitting there, like, watching like edits of you.

And I had this thought.

I know why you did so good because you

love being in male-dominated spaces and being like, wait a minute, I'm going to trick all of you into literally being my bitch.

Like you were like interviewing them, but they didn't know that you were making fun of them.

Like the satire, it was just so good.

Thank you so much.

Thank you so much because I was in a war and the gigglers were messaging me.

They were like, Blink, if you need help.

But I love golf to my core and I also love disrupting male spaces.

So you're so right.

I was in the thick of it.

But let me just set the stage for you.

It's pitch black.

It's 5.45 p.m.

Yeah.

They put a mic on me, a.m.

Sorry, a.m.

And they go, you're going to go into the grandstand.

And I'm like, no one's going to be here at 5.45.

5,000 people are in the grandstand, pitch black.

So I'm like, it feels like it's nighttime.

Oh, and men don't notice little details.

They've literally planned, figured out carpooling to be somewhere at 5.45 on a Saturday morning.

You don't know your own mother's birthday, but you've navigated organizing all your friends' outfits.

I was just going to say, matching costumes.

Matching costumes.

They've rehearsed chants.

They're so fucking ready.

So I get there and I realize like

I'm surrounded by 5,000 drunk men at 545.

Also, I'm like really hating men today.

I don't know why.

I had a nice weekend.

Here's another thing with the men: they get so many life breaks.

All of the weekend during fall, Saturday and Sunday dedicated to them.

Then they've even added Monday and Thursday dedicated to them.

Then there's a day on the weekend where they're like, I really want to go with my boys golfing.

Great, go.

Like, I don't give a shit.

But no one ever talks about, like, if you're a mom and a wife and your husband goes and does these like activities with his friends totally fine.

Have the best time ever.

But they there's not there's no equivalent like there are so many days built into the week that just instinctually you know like, oh yeah, the guys are gonna be like or like you ever been out before and like plans change, pregames change, club nights change because it's like, oh, there's a fight on.

So like every guy in America is at some bar watching some fight and you're like, but I have an outfit and we have dinner reservation.

Yeah.

Well, yeah, there's certain things society will like stop for whatever the men want to do.

They're like, no, this is like

the girls do it.

They're like, influencing is not a real job.

It's like, oh, God, God forbid we go to a beauty summit.

I do have to say, so there's a couple like golf influencers out there that I wasn't familiar with, never came across my algorithm.

Yeah.

And they were like, all these crowds, like all excited to see these golf influencers.

So I looked it up, and I, so, this is what men do: they watch YouTubes of non-professional players, like normal golfers,

golf with each other.

So I went up to one of the guys and I was like, so it's like Twitch, like other guys watch you and your friends play golf instead of them just playing golf with their friends.

And they were like, yeah, like we're just like their favorite, their favorite streamers.

But then I took a step back and I realized I hate when men come up to us and they're like, so you guys like just

talk about stuff.

You just talk about stuff with each other and people like Giggly Squad.

yeah then I realized like that's that's their culture that's their culture that's their culture yeah and like people and girls listen to us because we all have the same sense of humor but men's sense of humor sometimes Chris do you ever watch other men just do stuff that aren't professional at it yeah it's called podcasting

you listen on men's podcasts I have to that's my job I was gonna say porn

Chris loves amateur

he's like it's just more real if we're getting into it If we're getting into it, can I just say something?

Yeah.

Guys definitely pick the porn based on the guy.

What do you mean by that?

Like, would you ever, like, not click on one because a guy looks a type of way?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yep.

And sometimes they're like, I like that one.

It's me.

You're not, because I pick a girl

based on what I like her to look like.

I want Des to pick porn based on girls who look identical to me.

Yeah.

And then sometimes I feel like I want porn.

Men aren't even in my porn algorithm.

I don't want to

remember having sex.

That's just disgusting.

That's disgusting.

It's disgusting.

They ruin the porn.

People are so

ignorant.

Because it's so easy to get the ick from guys from porn.

Like them even being like, yeah, I'm like, I'm out.

Yeah.

Like him going, oh yeah, I'm out.

We don't talk about this enough either.

Like I could in my head picture like four porn porn girls that, like, I've seen in the past 15 years that, like, you just always see gorgeous, stunning.

I couldn't picture one good-looking guy porn star.

Like, I don't think I've ever come across one.

I know.

I also don't look for them.

So, they could be out there.

I'm just not seeing it.

It's none of my business.

Anyway, we digress.

We digress.

It's officially fall because Banana Republic said so.

One of my favorite stores because I feel like they have such good like vibe for fall.

Like, I want a chunky sweater and mini skirt.

Yes.

I want to wear a ballet flat or a boot.

Yes.

A little chill, but then you get your sweater around and you're just like, I'm so little.

I want to wear a sweater dress with a high boot

and just like run around.

I'm standing on my

face glasses on.

Yes.

And look like I just finished reading a book.

Yes.

Even though I don't have and you have like the perfect hair color for fall.

I didn't want to say it, but it is.

It is.

And it goes well with all the sweater colors.

It's sweater weather.

also I like when the sweaters are like not itchy and they have like a little stretch to them and it feels comfortable I want to be able to take a nap in them after walking around playing with the leaves which is what I do in the fall I also love a knit dress because I can wear it to podcasting, then I could go to dinner with it, then I come home and like watch TV in it.

It's so versatile.

The fall in general, I feel like, is versatile because you can add so many layers.

And Banana Republic, not only do they have like great sweater, sweater dresses but they also have like good t-shirts and tank tops and basics and like they also have really good button-ups like I'm always on the hunt for a new crisp white they're not all created equal they're not you need some oversized you need some fitted this is my question yeah do you button it up to the top sometimes if the look calls for it True, like if you need a tie.

Yes.

Yes.

If you need a tie.

A little tie with a cardigan.

And their new arrivals are all inspired by their archives.

Of the 90s and kind of like their heritage collection, which I love anything inspired by the 90s.

It was a chic time.

So good.

But obviously, Banana Republic has made them fresh, wearable for today, just updated.

Yes.

So let's present our October edit.

What are you wearing right now?

I'm wearing this.

I don't even want to say it's orange because it's like an orangey red.

It's just the perfect October spot.

You're going to, the internet's going to be so confused.

This is the new, is it blue or gold dress?

It's to me, it's burnt, burnt orange, but red.

It's giving orange red.

Orange is red.

The way you're saying orange is throwing me off.

Orange.

And it's also a blend of wool and cashmere.

I find

fully wool.

I get a little bit itchy.

Oh, 100%.

I need a little bit of a blend.

100%.

You need a blend of merino wool and cashmere.

What's your skirt?

My skirt is just like this really cute

suede, like, again, chocolate brown.

chocolate brown goes with every color yes you can put chocolate brown with anything i am wearing my warm sweater dress i love neutral colors this beige and tan i just feel like it's giving rich it's giving luxury and you could wear it with anything yeah um you could dress it up with heels you could dress it down with loafers i love that it has a tie waist and a side slit

I love showing low waists.

My mom told me to show my curves more, so she's going to be happy about this dress.

Oh, good.

Yeah.

So girls, go shop Banana Republic's new arrivals.

They are online and in the stores.

High quality fabric, versatile.

It's made for fall, but you can keep them wear forever.

Banana Republic is actually one of those stores that it's nice to go into because it's always clean and neat.

And we love that.

That's a note I need to do.

And it makes me feel like I have my stuff together.

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So at one point I get in the crowd and we have to find people to interview and the producer is like, hi, guys, this is Hannah.

She's going to send you some interviews.

The guys all start chanting, Hannah.

And in that moment, I've never been more scared of my life.

I was like, I want to be out.

That's

if this was on a quad, I'd be running.

If this was in a college campus, I'd have the camera.

I'm calling the police.

Yeah, I'm calling the police.

I'm calling the police.

I looked at the producer.

I said, something's going to happen right now, and I'm going to need everyone on a high alert.

And it's funny because I feel like the producers were like, oh, this is a different kind of situation.

But then there's always like one giggler that i find and she looked at me i looked at her and she was like

you can do this i'm here for you and i was like okay but it's true the men don't

they like i i think that's the fun of it like i i don't want to make them feel like shit like i want to make them feel like they can talk to me yeah but and then say whatever they want but these guys who are like we got away from our wives yeah we got away from our wives and i was like that's Okay, baby.

You're all like, we just want to hang out with each other because these goddamn women.

And Marcelo said something where he was like, I've never seen grown men like flirt with other grown men to be like, hey, bro, are you over here?

I was like, oh my God, he's so right.

I do love fandom and I love that people can love something and like instantly get joy from it.

Totally.

But they're like, when I was in college.

When a guy was like obsessed with one of the guys on the basketball team, it was like immediate ick for me just because I'm like, he's your age, you could have done that.

No, that's exactly how I think of it.

Like, when guys originally had a couple push-ups in middle school, like, wow, he's like so good.

He's like, he's a rookie of the year, blah, blah, blah.

And I'm like, you're the same age.

Like, you could have done that.

It's totally great to like respect them and to appreciate them and be like, by the way, yeah, that guy's really cool.

But the way they'll be like, if he fucking looks in my direction right now, I will pay him myself.

Everyone's obsessed with Bryson DeShambo, which I would go around asking people if they could spell DeShambo, which obviously they couldn't.

Neither could I.

But then this one guy, I don't know if I should post the video or not because I actually feel bad for him.

Yeah.

So he goes, I said, who are you rooting for?

And he goes, you know, I get hard for Bryson.

And then he immediately stops himself.

And I look at him.

He looks at me and he goes, no, I didn't mean it like that.

And I go, Freudian slip, he goes, I'm excited to cheer hard for Bryson.

And I go, still doesn't sound better.

But like these guys want to fuck Bryson.

Yeah, they do.

Like when he gets on, they're all like, it's Bryson.

I've never seen any men get up for something at 5 a.m.

other than a court date.

Like, what?

I mean, what are the, how do we

all court-mandated therapy?

Yeah, how did they all coordinate?

Also, a bunch of men coming together to root for a guy named Bryson.

America's over.

No, we're done.

We're in the pits.

We're done.

If he has a Y early in his name, we're done.

That man can't be trusted.

But also with golf, like these guys, I love the passion.

They were so riled up, but like they're seeing this guy hit a T-shot, right?

By the way, the ball's the tiniest ball in the world.

No one can see where it goes.

So, like, why aren't they lime green?

Hello?

I'm like, what?

Why aren't they a highlighter color?

Yeah, pink.

At least sparkles.

Yeah, do something.

I can't see.

I see that.

I can't see it.

Right into this guy, gone.

But everyone's like quiet for the guy to go.

And then the ball goes.

And everyone goes, ah!

And I'm like, no one dunked.

Like, there wasn't, like, there wasn't a home run.

This was a,

and it, it wasn't even the hole.

Yeah.

So, um, I love golf.

And it was such a crazy experience.

I saw Jimmy Fallon.

How was he?

He, he, was like, was he in a costume?

He was wearing like a cool jacket.

Jimmy's always a little stylish and he's fun.

So I saw him.

I was like, hey, me and Paige say hi, whatever.

Um,

I'm trying to think what else.

I saw Michael Jordan.

You did?

From afar.

I just stared at him the whole time.

Do you know Michael Jordan has a golf

course like that he made just for like him and his friends.

Like I don't think, I think it has like maybe a hundred members, but it, and obviously, I don't think any women are allowed,

but we saw that coming.

I do.

Space Jam is my favorite movie.

So like I was in starstruck, and that is

also basketball players.

When you see them in person, you're like, damn.

Like, they are

large men.

Like, when you see famous people in person, you go, and you're the tiniest thing I've ever seen.

Basketball is like the opposite.

I love that because I'm like, I'm so skinny.

I'm so tiny.

You see, basketball players always with their friends.

Yeah.

So you can't tell if they're small.

Right.

Such a fun experience.

I just had the best time.

I just like love sports.

Yeah, you do.

And then the gigglers.

She's so crazy.

I like sports.

I'm like watching clips of you.

I'm like, she loves this.

Also, I feel like with stand-up, you have to be...

Actually, Amy Poehler told us this.

To quote the great Amy Poehler, in her show that she does with Tina Fey, they do all these different things they do like weekend update and they do like um their Oscars um monologue they do all these things and there's a part where they do stand-up and Amy was like stand-up was actually the most interesting thing to do for me because she's like it was the most vulnerable because I had to be myself

and I because she's like an improv actor and I'm like I never thought of it like that.

Yeah, like she's talking about, you're talking about stories from your own day to day.

You're just like, hi, this is me.

Let me tell you some stuff.

You're not like, I'm a character.

Oh, that was the character that said that.

But with the sports reporting, it's fun because, like, well, my dream after tennis, shit the bed, was to be a sports reporter.

Yeah.

If you come to our Giggly Squad shows, you know we show some footage.

But I really wanted to be like a sports reporter.

So it was funny to, I kind of tried to like be that character.

Yeah, like back to you, Colin.

Back to you in the studio, Colin.

I'm loving it.

Like the guys would start, oh, they also would start chanting.

I also loved that you wore like that navy blue little bear bear sweater.

Perfect for like early morning.

Shout out to Ralph Lauren.

Yeah.

It was so cute.

The bear had little golf clubs.

Shout out, Ralph.

I felt adorable.

Also, when I put a collared shirt.

Under a sweater.

Under a sweater.

I mean business.

You have a money manager.

I'm not fucking around.

Yeah.

No, like I know, I know things.

Yeah.

And I feel like also when I, the difficult, the most difficult thing about live TV is like you have people in your ear.

Yeah.

And, but I'm also chatty Kathy.

So I'm chatting with everyone.

Someone's in my ear, I'm like, I'm not listening to that, yeah, and they're the only one.

Just another voice, just a Tuesday, am I right?

I go, I have 18 different things in my head right now, but also it is fun though, because if someone starts talking to you that you're like, don't want to talk to, like, I go, sorry, someone's in my ear, no one's, it's like when you fake a phone call, yeah, um, you're like, so sorry, I'm working, but then people would start chanting around me.

And if you yell into the mic, it sounds crazy, but they can't hear you unless you yell.

Right.

So I was like navigating all the yelling, but I felt like I was back at Wisconsin at a Big Ten football.

No, it looked like fun.

Who won?

So Europe ended up winning.

Okay.

Europe won.

The Irish guy, Shane Lowry, sunk a putt to

do it, I believe.

Good for Shane.

I was...

Happy for him.

So anyway, oh, and then I also flew to Lady Gang,

Florida.

Yeah.

For a couple hours.

I went on stage 45 minutes, yelled at a bunch of girls, had so much fun.

Got on a flight, came back.

Saw Taylor Strucker and Taylor Donahue.

No, the girls are working.

The girls are working.

And then you've been giving speeches across America.

You are Mel Robbins.

I am.

Of Hot Girls.

I'm like, actually, don't let them and then murder them.

And this is how you put together a set, okay?

She goes, I know you don't want to, but you just go put them together, okay?

Okay.

And this is how you walk in in a kitten heel.

So many giggly squad-coded things happened at Harvard that I was just like, yeah, of course.

Wanted to tell me everything.

So first I was like, would you really come to Harvard and like talk to, they have like an entertainment club who like gets all of their speakers.

So like anyone can go and like listen to any of those talks.

So I would say it was like a hundred business school students, primarily like all girls.

But I walk in there and I'm like a little nervous.

And then like I see the room and I'm like, oh, this is going to be fine.

This is just like the girls chatting.

And so we're like talking and then there's like a time for like a Q ⁇ A.

And this one girl raises her hand and I look at her and I go, are your glasses real?

And she, and she looks at me like, yeah, bitch, I go to Harvard.

They're fucking real.

She was like, she goes, why would you come for my weak eyesight right now?

For the everyone.

She was so confused at first.

She was like, my glasses, I go, yeah, are they real?

Or like, is it like trendy?

And she was like, no, these are my glasses.

And I was just like, okay, sorry.

She goes, sorry, my vision is not a trend.

And I was like, I have it.

I love what you're doing.

They're like clear frames.

Like, she's about to ask me a question.

I'm just like, what did you get?

I love this aesthetic that you have.

I'm like, what is this bookworm like vibe you're getting?

And she's like, no, this is me.

I'm like, okay.

So she goes, it's giving smart girl.

You're in your head being like, wait, how do I replicate that?

I love.

Because all day I'm like, what would a harvard student

you dress up for themes yes like i'm going in there as someone different i'm going in there as an adjunct professor like i have things to do i live in cambridge like i'm coming up with a whole scenario so then like talk is over i'm like walking out these gigglers run up to me and they go guess what and i go what they go we don't even go here

and i'm like this is the most giggly squad thing.

She was like, yeah, we heard you were coming.

And so we just walked in the door.

And I go, as you should, it's a free country.

The gigglers are problem solvers.

They don't, they're manifestors.

Yeah.

They will never be told no.

They're like, pages at Harvard.

Cool.

We just applied.

What of it?

We just graduated.

I was like, this just made my whole day.

I'll do college gigs and there'll be girls in the crowd after that are like, we're millennials.

We just, you know, want to enjoy the show.

No, I'm upset.

Wait, when you walked into Harvard, were you like, because Harvard is iconic?

Like, how it looked, did you feel like was this issue?

I felt immediately like Elwood.

I was just like, Rory Gilmore, really fucked up going to Yale.

It's all about Harvard.

Like, I was obsessed.

They gave me a hat.

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I'm hoping that one day I can be successful enough that they'll give me an honorary degree.

And then it's like...

It's game over.

Yeah, it's like, sorry, she went to Harvard.

I do want to appreciate this full circle moment for both of us, me becoming a sports reporter.

And you,

I'm just going to say,

you didn't even like apply to Harvard.

No.

Like, that wasn't in your vision board.

And not because you didn't respect it, more because you were like, that's not my journey.

I never thought, I never thought there'd be a group of people significantly smarter than me.

Asking me advice.

Never in my days.

The fact that you were like, I could never get into Harvard.

Like, you've probably thought that thought before.

You know, I knew I could never get into Harvard that I didn't even have that thought.

Like

it was never a debate.

I just thought, what a pretty school.

So happy that they went with Crimson.

No one's doing that.

You know, like I never thought like that.

Could I not?

It was like,

wait, cheek.

Ego, H is my best friend's first name.

So I kind of liked the rhyme.

No, so the fact that you're there

is so fucking cool and it shows people like,

you don't even know what dreams you can accomplish.

no and also i realized that my love what my love language is

different events and finding the perfect outfit that just like goes along with that event so then the next day i had to go speak at this like clavio like

conference type thing and i was like what would a speaker with a headset wear and i was like a pillbox hat like i literally called up everyone i was like i need all the hats back back up back up, back up.

How did you know what a pillbox hat was?

Because I don't.

What was the inspiration behind a pillbox hat?

So pillbox hats started trending last fall.

Okay.

I didn't have an opportunity to wear one.

I didn't have like the right venue.

I couldn't find the perfect pillbox hat.

It's very like Jackie-o.

Yes.

Okay.

She wears them a little bit more on the back of her head.

I like the London Tipton look and I like looking like a bellhop and having it like right in the front.

And so my whole personality that day was I was wearing a hat.

And like even I'm up there on stage speaking and I'm like, well, since I'm in a hat today.

You're like, let me ask my hat.

Hold on one second.

No, literally, I was the Hogwarts, like hat sorter.

I was like, you're Slytherin, yes.

Like my hat was perfection.

As someone who can't pull off a basic baseball cap, when you put that on, I was like, this is...

otherworldly like I couldn't that was like you thinking of Harvard yeah me thinking about you wearing that hat and then I'm looking for the bathroom and there's like camera people I think they were like filming it for like their own internal whatever and I like turned to one of the camera operators just to be like hey do you know where the bathroom is summer house camera guy no yeah I was like oh my god you know how the turntables have turned I was like look at us look at us look at us just at Harvard

guys being like can you send some clips because I really thought I look good in that

they did seat me on my wrong side but like like on my bad side, but I wasn't, but I was like, wait, I was like, I'm in a hat, so it's fine.

You decided you have a bad side?

Well, I've taken on the role you've given me.

Wait, I caused you to have an insecurity about one of your sides.

No, don't, no.

No, I have to be on this side.

That's not true.

I don't want my.

I wouldn't get to saying that because if I ever want to switch,

you'll be like, it's actually your bad side.

Actually, I won't use it against you.

I love what the gigglers are so aware when we're standing that we're always on our sides.

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Wait, also this weekend while you were like literally running the world.

I woke up Saturday morning.

I'm like, let me get a day in.

Let me like do my own thing.

I wake up Saturday morning.

It's 8 a.m.

I'm going to get a facial at 8.30.

It's the only time she could get me in.

I'm like, but I love this.

No one's up that early on a Saturday morning except the girls coming and going from Pilates

and bisexual men.

Yep.

Like that's the only people that are on the streets.

Yep.

So I get out of my Uber.

I'm like 15 minutes early.

So I'm looking at my phone to like see what time it is.

I'm standing.

I'm standing closer to the entrance of the building than I am to the street.

I'm not in the middle of the sidewalk, but I'm not like right up to like the entrance of the build.

So I'm like right there.

Okay, there's a lot of visuals.

She goes, I'm seven yards to the right of the building.

Let me drop a pin for you.

Ready?

I'm me.

So I'm not in the middle of the sidewalk, but I'm not like, there's also no one on the sidewalk.

I'm like looking at my phone to see if I should go up yet or like what apartment number is it, whatever.

And I just hear someone say, heads up.

And I turn.

I'm like, I turn.

I literally get turned around because all of the sudden charging at me is 30 people in a fucking run club.

Okay.

I literally audibly go, what the fuck is this?

You got shot.

I literally was I was assaulted.

I was burglarized.

I was thrown on the street.

Like I literally turned with the motion of them like

they just took you with them.

Next thing you know, you're running.

I didn't sign up for you.

I'm like, I have a facial.

So I'm like, I'm immediately.

angered because I'm like, fuck you guys.

Who the fuck is getting?

There should be signs.

Like, you know, it says no biking on the sidewalk.

No running on the sidewalk.

I was like, is this what's happening before 10 a.m.

on a Saturday morning?

You've gone rogue.

You've taken over the city.

It's Gotham City here now.

They stop at the corner.

You're like, back to the city.

No, I literally look up because I'm like, who are these fucking people that I never want to see again?

I realize

high school team.

High school track team.

Oh, they're just trying to run.

And so I was like, you know what?

They take back everything.

They're chasing their dreams.

You guys get your exercise.

But also, high school kids let them sleep.

No, I was like, guys.

What happened to after-school activity?

It's after-school activity.

No, I couldn't even believe

something like that to happen.

Also, New York City school is having a run club.

Like my New York City school, our gym, the ceiling was so low, you couldn't shoot the basketball.

I mean, I think it was the track team, but yeah.

They like track.

I liked calling them the run club.

The run club.

That's true.

Because I thought they were adults.

Yeah.

And then I realized they were kids and and I was like, I feel like low-key running in New York City, though, is like a dating app if you do it.

Like, people say the Westside Highway is just like hot people running and like I fucking, it's like the airport for fit people.

I'm not a doctor, but I think running is so bad for you.

No, it's so bad for your knees.

I think it raises your like cartisols, yeah, your adrenaline, you're like,

I don't know.

I almost bought one of the shaking pads.

Do what?

I love love it.

How often do you use it?

Every day.

Because it says it releases trauma.

Yeah.

I haven't like cried on it.

But no, I cried often.

I really think it does help.

Wait, can I call you out for a second?

Fine.

Paige calls me and she's like really focused, talking about something, but it sounds like she's in a car wash.

Like it sounds like she's in a rainforest.

So I go.

I'm like, this is my last minute on the phone.

You've got to listen to me.

So she's rambling, and I go, hold on, are you in a rainforest?

And then instead of being like explaining herself, she goes, what?

And then I'm like, oh, maybe she's on speaker.

You know, sometimes on speaker, it's weird.

And she, you make me feel like I'm crazy.

You go, what?

What?

And I go, it sounds insane.

And she goes, yeah, I'm in the shower.

Anyway.

And I'm like, okay, you could have prefaced it with being like, hey, sorry, I'm underwater right now.

But you made me feel like I was crazy for being like, you're drowning.

I get some of my best work done in there.

So you get in the shower, you get thoughts.

Where is your phone?

Well, I have my OctoBuddy.

So she's stuck right on the

right on the side.

By the way, she has FaceTime me in the shower as well.

Totally.

I know her full routine.

About 10 years ago, one of my friends called me, my friend Ryan, and I don't know, he's telling me something.

And the exact same thing happened.

I go, where are you?

He goes, oh, I'm in the shower.

And I say this bitch.

She goes, and then, shh, and then the other shh.

And then you're like, what?

I'm like, you're calling me in the shower.

And he goes, yeah, this is 20 minutes, valuable minutes that I, and ever since then, any call I've had to make through that day that's not like super important, but like, I have to tell you something.

I have to talk to you.

I don't have any other time during the day, you're getting a call in my shower.

I do think that we put too much pressure on people to get work done between the hours of nine to five while sitting on a desk.

Yeah.

Cause creatively, I'm sorry.

Creatively for me, stuff comes to me at 10.30 when I'm spacing out, when I'm in my bed.

I'm so hot right now.

Yeah, I'm wearing a tanked up.

How are you?

Take it off.

They won't be matching.

Oh, and you have the hiccups.

Oh, wait, Paige, just

one moment.

Have you heard of

a horse girl fall?

Is it horse girl?

Hello?

Is it horse girl fall?

Do you need to take us out?

Apparently, and this is my thing.

I love horses.

No,

I love a funny trend.

You know, I'm on every trend.

Horse girl was one thing that I never was able to do.

I think because I grew up in Brooklyn, there weren't a lot of horse girls.

But the Equestrian trend is cool, and I love animals.

It's funny that horse girls get like a bad rep because anyone I knew growing up riding horses, they were weird.

Girlfriend.

Somebody loves money.

Horse girl, cool.

Your dad will buy and sell everyone in the town.

And like, yeah, I know.

Yeah, horse girl is so weird that it got negative.

It's like cat girl, crazy cat ladies.

Totally.

But again, you know what it is?

It's never horse boy.

No one's ever made fun of a horse boy.

They're never like, it's a basketball boy.

It's like, no, he just plays basketball.

No one's like, oh, crazy little horsey men running around.

No, they put it on the women.

Sorry, she's connected to her horse.

Yeah, sorry.

She has passions.

Yeah.

Got her body.

I had a thought the other day.

And I want to ask you.

I had one thought.

You know, when there's like commercials where it's for like

insurance, like home insurance, or like

car insurance, or something, but it's like a story that has nothing to do with like home insurance,

but it's like a montage, and it's like

two people meet and they buy a house together, and then like the next clip is like, Oh my god, they're having a baby, and then the child's growing up, and then like an asteroid hits, yeah, and they're like, Make sure you call Geico, like something like that.

When you watch those commercials, do you think of yourself as the mom in it?

Or do you think of yourself as the child?

Because I was watching this commercial and it was like the parents getting the daughter ready, obviously, for like her high school graduation.

And I was like, oh my God, like, I wonder what my future child's like high school graduation is going to be like or something.

And then I stopped and I was like, I think I just turned into an adult because I feel like I used to watch those commercials and think of myself as the child and think of my parents as like, I hope they have home insurance.

And now I'm like, oh my god, I'm the parent.

This is so funny.

For anyone who doesn't know, I've been auditioning, haven't gotten a call back yet.

But she's trying.

She's pushing.

She's trying to push.

I'm pushing hard.

There was like an audition for a moment and I go, this must be wrong because I'm not mom age.

Also, and they're like, babe, you're 34.

You're actually gerrymandering.

Actually, we suggest you don't have kids now.

You're actually too.

There was like a tennis movie and they were like, the girls are like college tennis players and they go perfect.

And they're like, but we,

and you'll be their mom.

And you're like, sorry, how can I be a college person's mom if I'm also on the team in college?

Yeah, you can't be a mom while playing on the team.

Auditioning for a mom is crazy behavior.

Crazy.

But I also will watch those commercials and at first I'm like the girl.

And then they start saying all this stuff about about like and then you have to file and I'm like the second filings involved I'm like this is not relatable to me I can't believe you just said that because all weekend I go the moment someone mentions the word margins I'm out

Like at Harvard and this playbook thing, I literally looked at my manager and I was like, what if they ask me like a really hard question that I don't know?

And she was like, you're going to be fine.

Like, you know what they're going to be asking.

Be a politician, turn it on them.

And I was like, if someone starts bringing up margins and financials, I'm literally throwing up on stage and leaving.

So anyway, that word really gets me going.

I

also have to give an update.

Des and I sometimes have trouble picking the same kind of show.

Yeah.

Because we have different sleeping schedules.

So I'm watching Nashville, but then he showed up one night and I was like, he showed up out of the hall.

It was so weird.

I was like, oh, do you live here?

Who invited you?

He came out from the bedroom and I was like, oh my God.

But he's like, let's watch something.

And this is the problem.

He doesn't like murder documentaries.

You're like, he's a little stubborn where he likes to say that.

If I can get it started before he can have an opinion, he'll be sucked in.

Yeah.

Like, he's always like, I don't want to watch a documentarian.

Life is about making them tricking men.

It's actually so funny that they run anything and think that we're like second to them.

It's like, we manipulated the fuck out of you guys.

But anyway, I keep going.

So we're there.

and i'm like what are you gonna watch and i know he's gonna fall asleep soon so i'm like yeah whatever you want to watch and he he goes what's this demon hunters thing and i was like i don't watch his demon hunters nobody's like

everyone's talking about it what's it on it's netflix it it's like the most watched thing it's about a

is this the k-pop it's about a k-pop do you know the story

I heard someone talking about it because their daughter is like obsessed with K-pop.

He basically does also was like, sometimes we like to watch stuff to be like, is there a joke here?

Because it's like really popular.

That's how he prefaced it to me.

Wait.

So I said, okay, we're doing research.

Wait, I'm obsessed with that.

Yeah, he was like, let's watch it, and maybe there's something funny that we can get on stage.

And I said, we can make fun of these losers in this show.

Like, or do you actually want to watch demon K-pop hunters?

Just say it.

But it's so it's about this K-pop.

I would love to see the pitch room of this.

They're like, okay, so people love K-pop.

Yeah.

But it's real people acting.

It's a cartoon.

But it's like realistic cartoons.

Your husband pulled up.

Your husband on a Saturday night rolls up to the couch and goes, hey, check out this animated shooting.

We have fun here.

We have fun here.

It's a K-pop group cartoon

that their job to save the world is they have to kill the demons by singing.

This sounds so their voices.

You know what's going to happen?

Help keep the demons out.

I'm going to have a gay son who loves musical theater and that's my cross to bear.

And you want to know what?

I will support him and I will make sure I will be the biggest Nepo mom.

He won't even have to audition.

I'll get him in that room.

Wait.

So this is the thing.

These songs are catchy as fuck.

Yeah.

So we start watching it to be like, let's make fun of this.

Next thing you know, our heads start popping.

Next thing you know, Dead.

They're doing full out calls.

So there's this song called Golden.

Is that how they murder them, like by their routine?

Well,

they have to fight them sometimes, but but it's actually funny because it's about like them staying famous too.

So like something will happen.

They got like canceled and they had to like get different press.

And then not to give it away, but the demons decide they should create a boy group so that the fans go with the demons.

Okay.

And honestly, I was locked in.

Like we

didn't say a word, watched it for like an hour, 20, and then he's like, I think you have to go to bed, but this is really fun.

Same time.

So let's just say our marriage is back alive.

We're having fun.

And sometimes it's as simple as that.

One of the songs is on the radio.

I didn't realize it was from this show.

So I start singing to it.

And he's like, you know the words.

And I'm like, I'm just up on my pop culture.

What song?

You're really golden.

I'll send it to you.

It's really good.

I'll put it in the newsletter.

I haven't heard that.

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One other question.

I saw people are skin cupping.

Yeah.

Am I going to give myself a hickey?

Yeah.

How do you do that?

Oh, on their face?

Yeah.

Like they're doing like on their back.

On their face.

But no, it'll be fine.

It's not, they're not as like intense as like the ones people do for like muscle recovery.

Okay, because I just feel like any mistake you can make on your face, I will.

The suction cup thing, I feel like that's like been around.

Like do people doing it on their face?

It's like

you think it's kind of BS.

You know what I love is my Medicube like device thing.

Yeah.

That like vibrate.

Like I think that.

Honestly, an ice roller is the best.

It's the best.

I dermaplaned.

Did you?

Um, and I've never felt so shiny.

Yeah, like I felt like a baby dolphin.

Do you like it?

I don't know.

My makeup artist for the Ryder Cup was like loved it because it goes on easier.

Yeah.

But also, I was like, I kind of like a little fur to keep me warm.

You don't really have like, I've never looked at you and been like, you have hair on your face.

You've also never looked at me.

That's true.

I only look very up.

I've never really

been on.

Normally you see one thing and you go, oh.

And then you're like, back to me.

My mom always makes a joke where she's like, don't let Paige look at you too long.

She'll tell you what you have to fix.

And I'm like, don't let me in the room.

But I love constructive criticism.

You know that I'm very coachable.

Yeah, sorry.

If I don't tell you who's going to tell you, if I see my mom and I'm like, hey, let's like switch up this hairstyle or like let's like change these boots or something.

Wait, I don't want someone to tell me.

I feel like mom's hairstyles are so important to them.

Yeah.

And telling them to switch up a hairstyle is is like, that's like, you have to sit them down.

Yeah.

Like, that's like having an intervention, especially some of these moms who've had the same one since 1982.

Yeah.

My mom has dabbled with like, she's done short.

Yeah.

She's like,

my favorite was like one summer she had a pixie cut.

Oh my god.

And I was just like, when you have a pixie, like the day you have a pixie cut, I'm going to be like, It's going to be the greatest day of my life.

I can't wait.

I could see a little side part with it.

I'm going to have one at some point.

You're gonna sometime in like I feel like it's very like,

I'm turning 44, so like I'm in a pixie cut.

I feel like if you have a pixie cut, it's gonna be iconic and everyone's gonna do it.

Where if I got it, it's a cry for help.

Yours would not be a cry for help.

Mine would be like, oh,

she's in our third marriage and she's.

I might have to do like a pixie cut wig first to like see how I like it and test it out.

You you haven't been have you ever done I haven't dabbled in wigs the way I should.

I feel like you should.

It's funny because Mitchell said, I'm going to Paris Fashion Week, and he was like, Do you have any interest in doing a blonde wig for a look?

Yes.

And I was like, Are you going to bleed your eyebrows later?

I would probably have to, but it's like too intense for right now.

You guys, this is too much admin.

Yeah, it's way too much admin.

Can you promise me something?

When you go to Paris, can you please like go consignment shopping?

Yeah, like go thrifting.

I'm bringing my mom.

So there will be a day where we do like a full shopping day.

I'm going to the Victoria Beckham show.

Yeah.

And I'm

like when I got the invitation, I was just like, that's my girl.

That's my best friend.

Yeah.

Like she was like, oh, let's invite my friend.

Just not use a B-word, but continue.

Sorry, that's my friend.

That's your friend who you know really well.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And then she invited me to her, I was just going to say to her house.

Then her team invited me.

You guys are watching Manifestation happen.

Yeah.

Her team invited me before the show to get fitted for my outfit to wear like to the show.

And I literally like rearranged my flight to like be able to go to it.

So I'm, I go, I leave on Wednesday and then the show is on Friday.

What I love doing with the gigglers because we started in reality TV and we weren't allowed to talk about anything, how it was made, what was really happening, anything.

So now that we're doing other stuff, I love being able to pull the curtain and like actually tell the gigglers what it's like.

I didn't know what a fitting was.

Like when people say it, they'd be like, I'm going to a fitting.

And I'm like, what is like, you're just, if you like, this doesn't fit.

Like, but it's, can you explain what a fitting is to people?

A fitting is a stylist comes over and brings a bunch of looks and then you try all of them on and you pick an outfit for certain events.

So like I'm doing a fitting tonight for all my Paris looks.

And also like the stylist I work with, it's.

Sometimes I'm like, this is the best job ever.

It's literally just my friend that I send different clothes to that I'm like, do you like this?

It's just like a sounding board.

And I'm like, do you know this person could be given me?

And her full-time job is telling you if she likes your outfit.

Yes.

And she FaceTimes me and she'll be like, yeah, it's okay.

Yeah.

You know?

And then you add Kim into the mix and then we're a company.

Okay, well, here's the thing.

When I do a fitting for anything and I'm trying on outfits, like everyone at that fitting knows that the final decision will not be made until everyone goes home.

And then I'll text a final decision of outfits.

Because because once everyone leaves I then have to call in the big guns

and I have to make sure she can speak freely and by big guns I've never been a part of this final decision I'm still I never even heard a rumor about this happening I'll say mom I'm in a fitting right now I'll call you after

and then I call her and I show her all of the looks and I've made the mistake before of having other people in that room for that phone call.

People were offended.

If you guys have ever seen say yes to the dress, that's what it is every day for Paige.

Yeah, and there will be sometimes something I really like and I'll be like, I really like this one.

And she'll go, really?

And that's what I'm like, and I'm taking it off immediately.

Yeah.

I also think

with styling, when you're trying on clothes, like they want you to like what they pick sometimes.

Yeah.

Or they might have a relationship with a brand that they want you to start working with.

There's all these things going on that you're not aware of.

So sometimes you will feel uncomfortable in it, but they'll be like, I'm obsessed.

And you really have to get your own voice.

yeah and then sometimes you'll do something that you're not like fully comfortable with and then you post it online and everyone's like we hate this and you're like oh

the stylist world is crazy no like when rachel zoe had her show and it was like brad goresky and like i need to re-watch that was like my first introduction to like what is a stylist and what i was like eight not ten whatever

There is a reality show in the stylist world because I feel like my stylist is not like other ones.

Like I feel like she is my friend and like we shop together.

Like we look at things together and we're like, what?

And she knows my closet.

Like she'll be like, oh, you have those shoes that would go good with this.

And I'm like, yes, perfect.

But I always say, when you see a celeb just chilling at a basketball game,

there's so much that goes into her with those boots that like everyone's talking about.

Yeah.

Whether they're hating or loving.

I do want to say, by the way, fittings for Paige and fittings for me are very different.

Yeah.

Fittings for Paige,

this is what she's been born to do.

Like

you've been doing it since you're what, like six years old.

Any stylist that works with me knows I don't stay in a fitting longer than 45 minutes.

One, because I'm very decisive.

And two, I can change clothes so fast that like I'm not keeping anyone.

And they always ask, like, what celebrities like make you do really long fittings.

And one of my stylists was like, one time I did a fitting with this one celebrity and she made me stay there for eight hours.

And I was like, at that point, move it.

But you know what's funny?

We're exactly the same.

I've, I've like broken records for fitting numbers.

Yeah.

Like amount of time.

Because I am very decisive too.

Yeah.

But like I

don't like fittings.

No, me neither.

Like you don't.

No.

Okay, it's stressful.

It's really stressful.

Because you're basically put on an outfit and have everyone decide if you look like shit or not.

Exactly.

And then sometimes you do look like shit, but you want to be able to pull it off and you can't.

And then you're like,

and you also have to be so fucking honest with yourself.

Like you have to be like, you look bad in that.

And just looking at yourself in the mirror and being like, not today.

It's actually emotional warfare.

Like, you see a dress that's expensive and a great brand, and they're like, you should wear it.

And you put it on, and you're like, I look stupid.

Yeah.

And then you have to just accept that and move on.

Yeah.

And it's tough.

Or the internet will tell you.

That is humbling.

You're like, really?

That's the best you could come up with, you stupid bit.

I'm like, oh my God.

No, it's stressful.

It's so stressful.

No, there will be times I'm in a bidding and I'm like, everyone's going to hate this outfit.

I am in a little bit of a mood because I lost to Jared Freed yesterday in fantasy football.

Jared Freed's having like an amazing season.

He didn't have a good one last season.

I literally heard through like seven different layers of communication that like I know for a fact that someone on your fantasy team got hurt.

Girl.

Like, and I heard it.

I wasn't going to bring it up.

These men are dropping like flies.

Yeah.

Getting out on stretchers.

My main guy, Malik Neighbors,

I'm and I'm doing live TV, by the way, checking my football team.

And the Malik Neighbors has just, his whole knee fell off.

And I go,

awesome.

No, literally, whole knee shattered.

I wasn't even watching.

I heard it through like TikTok, Instagram.

I was like, oh, it's a canon or something.

Fantasy football is gladiator.

I'm on the field and you're like, please don't have a lion eat my guy.

Yeah.

Oh, he ate him.

God damn it.

so anyway i lost with jared freed because my like neighbors

twisted literally sims you're like i hope my sim doesn't go in there no

my sim is literally gonna get hurt it's also scary because this happened to everyone's team like these guys are getting hurt every game so in fantasy and then someone you're not even talking about their brain their brain's been mashed potatoes so say someone gets hurt and it's like they're out for the season how does that affect your team so now like He was a high draft pick for me.

I could have picked someone else.

I picked him.

So now he fucked me.

So did you get to pick another person or no?

He literally is being selfish.

How dare you hurt yourself?

Yeah.

So now I have to like pick another guy and put him in his place.

The drama.

The drama.

It is so good.

Okay, so the men have fantasy football.

They have the rider cop.

I mean,

they have a lot going on.

No one says their schedules are.

Playoffs are about to start.

Oh, my God.

How are they even going to go to work?

How are they going to do it?

And then they watch the game and then they listen to podcasts about other men giving their opinion about the game.

A couple weeks ago,

when I realized that ESPN was on all day long, I was shook to myself.

Well, that's my joke.

I say, stop saying women talk all the time.

I just have you ever watched ESPN?

They will just go.

I thought they were fucking with it.

They don't even have a format.

They just go.

And their favorite thing to do is they just say like a thing that can't be proven.

They'll be like, LeBron is the best of all time.

It's an opinion.

And then they argue it for hours.

And why is no one talking about the

certain suit choices that are being made on those broadcasts?

Someone didn't do a fitting.

No, no one does a fitting.

No one does a fitting.

I'm like, oh,

what's going on here?

I do have to say, so Ralph Lauren, who's so iconic, was dressing us for the Ryder Cup.

And I was like, okay, obviously I'm going to look like the cutest.

Marcelo and Colin go off.

Like Colin's wearing the post.

And Marcelo's dressing as Chichi Rodriguez.

And I was like, this feels sexist.

Let me have a moment.

Let me have a second.

And Colin's dressed like full sports broadcast.

And also, come in.

They're getting glam.

You know how I feel about men getting glam.

It makes me uneasy and uncomfy.

Men getting glam creates monsters.

No.

For a man to be like, hey, can you get.

No.

No, men getting glam and thinking it's like, oh, I am like getting glam.

So I must be doing something cool.

What you're doing that's cool is finding a boyfriend

and I love that for you and I hope you find him because getting glam as a man I just like you don't need it so you want to hear the funniest thing so my glam was getting done at home at 3 a.m and then I drive alone to the writer cup and the glam wasn't coming with me because they can't come into the stands with me like I would never put a woman in that place like I was like no so Des came with me on Sunday and he's like hanging out with the crew and she gave me one what's it called for like a puff a puff because i get oily yeah so i go up to des and i was like come with us here's my puff when i get shiny your job is to puff me so i

so des is following me with a puff so before i go on i go des so then he starts leaning into puff immediately so then he comes up and then i realize it looks like i have a like flaming gay makeup artist

so so des starts going oh my god you look so good and he leans into it because

i've never had a straight guy do my makeup ever this isn't a stereotype This is a fact.

I don't think they can.

I have seen straight hairdressers.

I have had a straight hairdresser before.

And they do it like male chefs.

Like, you know how male chefs, they don't, they'll be like, like, oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Like, they'll be like.

They only come out when like the solstice is right.

Yeah.

Like I said, but they're family about it.

They're like, I'm straightening, like, oh, right.

Like, they're very like that.

So Des literally, as he's doing it, I'm like, people.

Because, like, let's be honest, Des is also like beautiful.

Yeah.

Like, he looks like Anderson Cooper.

Yeah.

Yeah.

In a way, and I'm like taller.

He's my full, he's my gay makeup artist for the day.

And honestly, roleplay is fun sometimes.

It's so funny, isn't it?

He's like leaning into it, but it was so funny.

I have these full relationships where I'm like, let's pretend this is different.

I also think,

what's the farthest from reality?

Anything to take me out of my current reality, let's do that.

You go, how do we flip this on its head?

But he, it's funny too, because I feel like men don't notice little details like

me explaining to him like some parts of my face will get shiny like my chin and right in between my brows you're teasing me he was looking at me in ways he've never looked at me before like he was like noticing like he was like oh he was like wait you have a nose

i was like i think he was like wait you're human my husband saw me for the first time

he saw me

for the first time.

Wait, is it just so relaxing like being married to someone where like

you know he's like nearby rooting for you, like, while you're doing your work.

That's so nice.

Well, at one point, like, he was filming me with, and he was like, I mean, obviously, the video was bad because he's straight.

Yeah, but I was like, I couldn't do anything like your mom and dad.

Yeah, and I was like, can you send it to me?

And he's like, it actually was, it was, I just, it was blurry.

Honestly, that's how I feel with Josephine.

Sometimes she'll send pictures of me to my mom, like, unsolicited.

And I'm like, you care about me.

Like,

it's so cute.

Speaking of men, I also was thinking, like, if I was to start a business one day, I was like, okay, obviously it would be cat food.

But if I didn't do cat food, like, I want to do something that, like, there's like a meaning behind it, like, it helps people or something.

But then I realized, what if the business is

taking advantage of men?

So, like, what if I started like an anti-aging business?

Because I feel like we're not fear-mongering the men enough.

Like, we are all so scared.

What if we literally, like, like, Chris, he's going to turn 30 eventually.

And I'm like, men, if you start wearing

Leo DiCaprio Chris

little cute male podcast hosts

is that a gray on the side of your ears?

So like there's or like male like men should have like a bronzer.

Like what if we made them be like you're pale?

Because like you can't be walking around without like a little bit of color.

We have to like, you have to make them scared.

When Jude Law is out?

out jude laws out here like i know running amok for the men because it's just the marketing's wrong the men are not being marketed to they need to be scared more they need to be scared more so what if we were like this 200 serum yeah will make you look like

you'll hit george clooney and then you stay there yeah you know or like like and i'll make des the face of it and i'll be like this man's 102

Because he makes this $300 serum and the girls just push it on their boyfriends, make them pay.

I think this is illegal.

I think this is just woman skincare.

No.

I'm just copying.

I'm just copying

it.

I'm just copying how it's made.

Thank you guys so much for giggling with us.

Thank you, Duncan, for supporting the episode.

We love our refreshers.

By the way, the gigglers have been tagging me in their Dunkin' Refreshers.

A couple girls are drinking like exactly what I told them to drink, like I need to order, which is mango pineapple refresher, less concentrate, and green tea.

So tag me if you keep ordering it.

And I just get my blueberry breeze lemonade.

You love your BB?

I love it.

You love your BBL.

Thank you guys for giggling with us.

We'll talk to you later.

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