****Repost*** Guys: Episode 134 - Feet Guys (PG) with Branson

Motherfucker, welcome to Guys, a podcast about guys.

I am your shod host, Brian, my unshod co-host, Chris James.

Hi, Chris.

I don't even know what the episode is.

Barefoot.

Oh, barefoot is legal, guys.

Okay.

We're calling it Feet Guys PG.

Oh, because

we did Feet Guys NC 17 already.

We definitely did that.

And it was not pleasant.

I don't think there will be any crossover between that and this then, right?

Yeah, I mean,

it was an unpopular episode.

People found it to be disgusting, more disgusting than sex guys, fart guys.

It was, yeah, for me, it was one of the more disgusting ones.

But this one, this one's much more kind of funny and silly, right?

No.

Our guest this week to talk about these weird guys is Branson.

Hi, Branson.

What's up, hey?

How are you guys doing?

You guys are going to love these guys.

I'm going to tell you what.

They have really cool beliefs about the law that are nice.

Some very cool scientific beliefs.

I see.

So they're libertarians.

They're about like, are they a lot of libertarians?

I want to start.

Can I just start it with this real quick?

LeBron James.

This is the first post I found.

This is what made me decide to do this.

It is a post in barefoot running.

And it says, LeBron James wearing toe shoes in latest Instagram posts.

Picture of LeBron James.

He's wearing toe shoes.

No fucking way.

First guy goes, this is probably the highest profile athlete I've seen wearing this style of shoe.

The shoes aren't the focus of the post, but I think stuff like this can really move the needle on general acceptance of minimal slash anatomical footwear.

That seems normal, right?

Well,

but isn't anybody people are wearing

what LeBron James's feet look like?

Oh, have you seen him?

Oh, he's got notoriously fucked up feet.

It's all that's what these guys keep saying.

I have no idea what these guys are saying.

When you first said that like he got his toes into like one of those slipper things, I thought no fucking way.

Because if you see a picture, he's been wearing basketball shoes for 30 years as tight as he can.

And he's got like

bound feet.

He's got like fucked up, crunched up, overlapping toes.

Like I'm amazed that these shoes, the fact that he, these shoes could even straighten out his feet, I might be a little bit of a believer just from hearing that they were able to handle his feet.

Like, are you familiar with Torrey Holt's fingers, the NFL wide receiver, who his fingers just go every direction now?

Yeah, just like that.

I've, I've, now I, I feel like maybe he's so rich and influential, though, that he could have like real specialty-made ones.

You can't fix them, Chris.

You can't, there's no fixing, right?

Like, that's what they're all saying.

The guy's like, I mean, I can't think of a person who could benefit from them more than him.

Like, these barefoot guys, I didn't realize this until I started.

These guys know everything about LeBron James's feet.

And they're often talking about LeBron James's feet.

I'm so confused then.

So these things that he's wearing are meant to fix his feet.

Toe shoes.

Have you ever seen the toe shoes?

I've seen them before, but I didn't know they served any purpose other than to look cool as hell.

Like, I thought that the whole purpose was just to be the coolest guy on the block.

So you're saying that they actually have like a met, like a purpose to help your feet?

Is that what you're saying?

I was like living in Logan Square when I first in Chicago and I first saw like toe shoes and I thought they were like, oh, I looked at those and I thought in my head, that's obviously a free running thing.

That's obviously guys who are jumping over buildings or something like that.

I couldn't justify it.

So for the first six months I saw them, I assumed everyone who was wearing them was like free runners.

And that was completely incorrect, I learned.

And so you were thinking of them as being the coolest guys.

You were thinking of them.

This guy is like an urban warrior.

He's jumping up a building.

He's like Spider-Man.

He's kind of like Spider-Man.

In fact, they're doing the opposite of that.

They spend most of the day laying down.

I see.

But I've, see, I don't, around, I don't know that I've seen them.

I live in Vancouver.

I don't know if we have them as much in Canada, maybe.

I'm sure we do, but I've never, I don't know if I've ever encountered them in the wild.

Now, I'm just curious if we're going to get, are we, Brian, you, Brian is just on his phone.

Can you imagine bringing people onto your podcast?

It must have been really important.

That's all I've done.

I'll tell you, it must have been so important.

Branson, it is.

Yeah, oh, it's been going on for two days, and it just ended.

It's actually been going on for like, it's been, it's now invading my fucking life, Branson, because the last like three recordings or something that we've done, he's like completely preoccupied with this thing.

It's just sending money and

he's a dictator's daughter.

That's all that it is.

It's almost like this podcast is a nice living room, and he's walking barefoot all over it.

Let me just say this:

it's fixed, and we're all done now.

Unfortunately for Chris, this is the last episode we record for like a week and a half.

Yeah, so I don't, so

he's managed to square it all away right before he goes on vacation.

He's managed

how convenience for you, Chris.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So,

a vacation that I don't always, I don't get to go on, by the way.

I, I will continue to work because,

Francis, and I don't want to spoil it, I have to like edit the episodes and do that side of things.

So, we just record all of them ahead of time, and then he goes on a vacation.

You're sitting in a dark room sweating.

I'm smoking cigarettes, I'm smoking Marlboro Reds, I'm smoking a bunch of people.

I think Buffett's Margaritaville raising the roof with Lilo and Stitch.

I mean,

it doesn't take me that long to edit it, actually.

I'm mostly busy with the Zoom.

I'm going to be in Asheville.

So, this guy goes,

What it will lead to is more price increases.

So,

cynical interpretation.

I found as cynical as you can get for a bear.

Who wants a cynical barefoot guy around?

Like, God damn.

If you're going to be barefoot, you better be fucking optimistic.

You're right about that.

That's very true.

Well, I guess I'm really still completely lost on what these guys are talking about, what's going on here.

I have no idea.

LeBron's feet are fucked, Chris.

I get that.

They're going to jack up the price of the shoes because LeBron's wearing them.

Yes.

But they these are specifically again i'm sorry to the listener if you already know what's going on here and you're but but these are shoes specifically for people with up feet no

these are shoes these are shoes that are supposed to mimic

being barefoot

i fully think and i don't remember the full details of this i should have looked this up i think there was like a class action lawsuit that said a lot of the benefits to these shoes that they were touting were wrong.

And I think they had to pay money.

I'm not 100% sure of that.

So these ones

are territory.

You have to take a certain amount of misinformation with you, I feel like.

You'd just be like, all right,

as a rule,

everyone gets a pass.

So they're like...

They're sort of a barefoot community shoe, though.

The barefoot community is.

I know.

If you guys are so obsessed with these shoes, how about you try these ones?

The least amount of shoes you can wear.

Yeah, they're like shoes

that they can wear if they're forced to wear a shoe in a situation.

Is that legally the least amount of shoe they're allowed to wear, I think?

Yeah,

if sandals aren't allowed, because would they do sandals?

Would they prefer sandals over these?

I wonder.

Yes.

They would.

Maybe.

So we're going to look at a few different kinds of schools of thought.

Obviously, there's the sandals.

There's carry a sandal in your backpack just in case, guys.

Just in case you have to go into like an establishment or something.

No.

Like a condom in your wallet.

Yeah.

And it's just in case you have to go into a store and

they tell you you have to put shoes on.

If you just go into the store and nobody says anything about shoes, you don't got to put the sandals on.

That's not what they're there for.

Let's be honest.

I mean, you're probably going to get by.

You're going to skate by.

Yeah.

You're going to skate by.

I'm not saying shit.

Yeah.

I used to work in the UPS store.

I like guys walk in there barefoot.

I'm not saying shit.

Just stay on your side.

Yeah, recently I used to work at Best Buy.

I can't even imagine confronting somebody about being.

You don't get paid enough to tell a guy to put shoes on.

That's a humiliating experience for both parties.

It would have to be a real sort of like upper.

like upper crust kind you know it would have to be like the role x store or something like that i feel like where and then i don't know why are the barefoot guys going to those kind of stores i need to go to a store with white carpet ASAP.

This guy says he definitely needs to fix his toe health.

Okay, so that was the confusing part to me, I guess, is that the post initially had

nothing to do with

nothing to do with his fucked-up feet.

They were just saying, hey, he's wearing these shoes, and now everyone's going to want them, and it's going to drive the prices up or whatever.

That's a separate thing from him having a fucked up his feet.

Well, this guy said he got, this guy thinks he wore them, and

this is his comment on us.

He got sick of his foot being used as an example because people are, I guess, in the barefoot community, like, well, look at LeBron James' feet.

And it's like, well, yeah, he's using them for a different thing than we are.

And like, I'm listening.

It's a lot of projection in this community.

It's immense amounts of projection.

I've been fighting for a few years.

And every feet of this podcast is broadcast reflected through LeBron James's feet like they're a prism.

I mean, I feel like I've been doing this podcast for so long.

I've never been so confused initially.

And I don't even know if I'm ever going to really get any sort of understanding about what's going on, Brian, because

I don't understand what any of this, like, I don't get what you're talking about, really.

What do you think about it?

There's nothing deeper.

There's nothing deeper is my understanding of it.

This is completely surface level.

Take it as you see it.

This guy goes, I'm sorry for all the down votes you're getting.

And even if I hate wearing restrictive shoes like Converse, they have indeed features that make them very good for basketball, much like football shoes.

What we need is some basketball shoes with a wide toe box.

But I know that athletes used to wear old fabric Converse in the NBA, even if it seems ridiculous now, and they didn't get hurt at all.

I'm pretty sure modern basketball shoes are more of a style than an actual useful improvement.

So back when they used to wear Converse on the courts at Chuck Taylor's, and nobody was getting hurt ever.

Brian, in your reading of this, is this right now from what you're saying, it strikes me as a sort of old head style community.

Even the conversation evokes like an ER, like a 2006 sort of Reddit civility here.

Is that your understanding of these guys?

They fight a lot.

But why?

Because there's a couple of classes.

I thought they're barefoot guys.

Why are they talking about different styles of basketball shoes?

Because they hate basketball shoes, Chris.

Basketball shoes are the thing that they feel are fucking everybody's feet up.

They're the culture.

They're against this community.

Yeah.

I'm going to

sit on the sidelines.

I'm just going to sit on the sidelines for a little bit because I feel like I'm ruining the episode for everyone.

I'm just going to sit back a little bit and try to get a foothold in what's happening.

Foot hold.

I get it.

I wasn't trying to do it.

Why don't you slip off those socks and you take a look down there and look down at them and kind of ponder those suckers for a minute and then see if you can kind of understand what these guys are talking about.

I'm going to look at my feet for a bit.

You guys talk and I'll just listen.

Let's do this.

This guy posted a thought experiment on R/slash Barefoot.

In a parallel dimension where shoes never became status quo, what kind of things might also be difference as a consequence?

Small or large, built or behavioral?

Let's say that shoes do exist, but are more like quote equipment than quote clothing, and thus a variety of well-developed application-specific types are readily available as, for example, tools, workwear, and sporting equipment.

For example, every domicile might have a foot bidet just inside the entrance, either as a standalone appliance or built in.

Oh, because you'd have to wash your feet when you come in because they'd be filthy.

I think all of these guys,

well, the first change would be that I'd constantly have steam coming out of my ears, like a cartoon character in some sort of Jessica Rabbit scenario.

I'd constantly be howling.

I'd be constantly just walking around hard, I think, is really the first majority.

You'd be in a wooga mode.

Yeah, that's I think all these guys, all these guys, really, that's what we're getting at.

No, they don't.

We're trying to not.

We're trying to not, Branson, because that was the one thing we learned when we did the bad foot episode where everyone got really mad at how gross it was.

Was that was one of the really kind of fucked up parts of it is that these people are kind of walking around and then they're like, man, they just got, she just had them out, you know?

And it's like,

yeah, we didn't like that.

It was like this thing where they're like looking at people's feet and people are just at the beach or whatever, right?

They don't want to be like sexualized in that way, and they don't even know they are.

And like, maybe they chose not to clip their toenails that day because it's too boring, and they didn't feel like doing it.

Yeah, and they're just like, and they're just like, look at them, they left it all long and wild for me, you know?

Like, that's the way the foot guy is thinking.

And so I look at this.

He obviously can't get his left pinky toenail.

He's obviously just letting that one flare up for a while there.

I'm going to give these guys a benefit of the doubt and say that they are not horny.

These no, they're not.

I promise this person goes, first of all, I think being barefoot at work would be the norm, unless footwear would be necessary as equipment, as you said.

So we would see all sorts of people sitting at their desk job barefooted, but also barefoot nurses, bus drivers, shop assistants.

This is so funny to me because it's like this

perfect world for them.

And it's like the exact same world, except for all of the classic jobs just don't have shoes on.

Well, it just also, like, I, you know, fundamentally, all these guys have an understanding with each other that I don't have.

It's really, what's so bad about wearing shoes?

Like, those are

foot prisons.

I think that they feel like they're binding your feet up and, like, keeping them.

Yeah, that they're keeping them like constrained in a way that's not a bad thing.

What kind of shoes are they wearing, I guess, is really, because, you know, most shoes I find don't really do that, you know?

Yeah.

yeah, most shoes I find you like in my opinion Like I try on shoes and they feel good on my feet I don't even understand this idea that shoes are so apostolic

shoes on

a theory in my brain It's not based on any evidence at all, but I love my thought is that the barefoot is legal sort of thing it had it the movement started a long time ago when shoes were like that, right?

When you wore those like dress shoes that were really like uncomfortable all the time.

and this barefoot movement started and got passed along from like generation to generation, so they're just kind of going off of the assumption or there's this feeling like shoes are this way, but it's like a lot of them maybe they just were grays that way.

If you showed them a nice pair of like new, you know, Nike

like Pegasus, like, you know, trail runners, these things feel like clouds on your feet for God's sake.

I love shoes.

They've like, come on, yeah, they might change their mind up a little bit because I agree that it's like shoes are not that way anymore.

But, like, also, you just can't start wearing shoes because not only do you like, you know, you lose that identity you've built up of like talking all this stuff.

So it's like, honestly, if these guys, there's definitely some fucking barefoot guys that have like a pair of KEDs or K-Swisses that are really comfortable that they put on in the basement and get out of their system.

They don't tell anybody about it.

They're seeing

around in a circle in the basement with their shoes.

They put on a hoodie and walk around their neighborhood and they'd be like, hold on, is barefoot Fred wearing fucking shoes?

What the fuck?

He fucking books it.

He runs when they're 2 a.m.

You'll walk around at 2 a.m.

wearing shoes.

And he can run so fast in his case.

He's got nothing else.

He's the barefoot guy.

We tried to get him into model trains.

He said they're too expensive.

And so now he's not really doing anything.

Yeah, I know you're right.

That is true.

That's the other thing.

This is the cheapest guy thing.

And it's funny because we just recently talked about cigars and motorcycles, which I would put in the higher expense thing.

This is actually negative.

Negative.

This is negative expense.

This actually saves you money being this type of guy.

Yeah, that's kind of cool.

You know, I would, because if you would put a graph of men wearing shoes next to a graph of men who don't wear shoes and then just put income over time, I'm going to bet on the guys who wear shoes.

So I'm not going to say it's a fiscally smart.

Oh, Well, listen, we're not talking about earning.

I would say those shoes are investments, really.

Branson, the discussion is not about earning power.

It's about how much money you save in being this guy.

And you have to admit you save money on shoes.

Right?

How much money you spend on shoes, Branson.

You save expenses on gas, going to job interviews, all the extra things.

Oh,

you save expenses on all the establishments.

It will not let you enter.

You can't even purchase things.

So it's like the amount of of money saved is just incredible.

I mean, just like the,

I read posts from people who have been like, they're talking about here.

I think I have one like from Quora where a person asks

health benefits.

Tino, I understand what's going on now.

I don't know what happened to me at the beginning of the episode.

I was so confused by the LeBron James aspect of it that I became so lost.

I want to apologize to the listener.

I'm here again and I know what's going on.

I understand a feat guys.

Man, I lost them.

Okay.

So, yeah, somebody, there were a few people that are like, I haven't worn shoes

this year.

And I was like, really kind of like, wow.

I was very impressed with that.

I have to wear shoes.

I don't really go out of my way to wear shoes, but I kind of have to wear them every day.

I have to put them

every day.

Yeah, at least, you know.

I go out right first thing in the morning.

The first thing I do is to take my dog out for a walk real early in the morning.

It's out on like a gravel path where I just feel like if I wasn't wearing shoes, I would immediately be in trouble on my

character.

Yeah.

Well, here's one of them.

What are some health benefits to going barefoot?

And this person answers, yes, do it.

And you will not be disappointed.

I went barefoot for 10 years.

I learned how our feet are meant to work.

To be hugging the earth with every step brings many benefits.

Absorb nutrients?

I knew it.

I knew he was going to say absorb nutrients through your feet.

i'm like god damn i knew he's going to say that

he goes the earth you'll be hugging the earth with every step brings many benefits such as learning how to track traverse large distances over rough terrain swiftly with little effort new gates besides simply walking and running become apparent and useful for different surface gradients and speeds your feet will learn to see in the dark They get used to a familiar ground and will guide you in the dark.

You will walk, run, and beelines through mud, gravel, grass, etc.

And so

why am I doing that?

Why am I running through grass?

You're just running through the mud now.

I don't want to be running through the mud and gravel.

Do you ever see a marsh and you just want to sprint through it?

I feel like the one single benefit is just that it obviously gets calluses on your feet, right?

After a while where your feet become stronger and you're able to then, you know, walk easily and you don't get hurt when you walk on the rocks.

I think that's a real benefit that will happen.

But I don't think it stretches much further than that, right?

I don't think barefoot guys are doing this shit.

They're just lying now.

This is a lie.

This is a lie.

Talking about you'll learn new ways to walk.

You'll run through the mud.

You'll run through the marsh.

You'll be like a goddamn animal again.

Yeah, like,

yeah, like, I mean, these guys are all like 47.

This could be incredibly helpful if you find yourself stranded in the woods being, you know, chased by a mad serial killer i mean it's just like you yeah you'll be fucking doesn't matter where you're going you'll just be able to run through which yeah i guess honestly serial killers chasing me and i'm barefoot even without the experience i think i would i would just make it i would make it happen probably i'd prefer to wear shoes he goes one mistake i made I well, actually, I wanted to get this last part.

He goes, you'll walk/slash run in beelines through mud, gravel, grass, et cetera, and simply wash it off at the next puddle.

One mistake.

Oh, hell yeah.

Whereas you or I, Bradson, we would

go to somebody like a professional and try to ask them what to do with the muck, you know, just like.

If you shoot your pants, not a big deal if you just wait for it to rain.

He goes, one mistake I made, I broke my own rule about running barefoot in the dark, drunk.

Any two of the above is fine.

But when I did all three, I totally forgot about a meter drain on my route.

I survived the crash.

It could have been worse, but it was my own folly that caused that.

So,

man, that's one of those things I keep to myself, you know.

That's one of those things.

I think you guys are being, you know, by the way, I got really drunk and I ran in the dark and fucked up really bad.

I just keep that one to me.

Do you guys want to hear a story about how I, when I was younger, I got real drunk running in the dark and fucked myself up real bad?

Because it just reminded me of it.

I like left this party and went home.

I had to go do something at home to prove that I was home or something like that.

And then I came back to the party at this guy, Sean's house, and I was running, running as fast as I could.

And again, it was just like I knew my route, but I was a little drunk.

And I lifted my head up too early and smashed my head

on like a tree.

And it smashed my head, like cut it open bad.

And there was blood all over my face.

And so I showed up at the party all drunk, just covered in blood.

And they're all, who the fuck did this?

You know, like, and they all just assumed that I had been beaten up.

And like, oh, let's go get this guy, you know, and I had to just like embarrassingly be like, uh, yeah,

I, uh, yeah, let's go get him.

He was like, fucking, I don't know, he was like, fucking little guy, but he was like pretty fucking stocky, you know?

Like,

regular size, it's a regular size guy with regular clothes on.

Yeah, there's a reward.

No, I had to actually tell them that, like, yeah, no, I ran my head into a tree.

Sorry, fellas, you're going to have to get out your bloodlust in some other way.

Let's

take a look at this because this is an interesting question.

This guy says, vague venue policies.

Now, this is a very

modest Yahoo.

Tell me the rules, baby.

I got to see my Modest Yahoo.

In the context of these barefoot guys, that's such a good

headline.

Well, wait till you hear.

He goes, sometimes before going to new places like stadiums or arenas, I'll check their website to see if they have any policies policies against patrons who are barefoot.

It helps me avoid any unnecessary confrontation.

Most places which prohibit bare feet seem to have pretty specific policies.

For example, patrons are prohibited from entering without shirts and shoes.

However, I have noticed a couple of vague policies as of late.

One policy stated that, quote, footwear is required to attend, and the other is foot coverings are required at all times.

So,

in my opinion, neither footwear nor foot coverings means that shoes are required.

I think, in their basic sense, footwear is something that is worn on the foot, like a toe ring or some other jewelry.

Oh,

okay, there you go.

So, the feet lawyers logged in.

The feet lawyers here.

This is who I want to be.

You choose who you are every day on God's green earth, and they chose to be the fucking feet lawyer.

I mean, yeah, just arguing that case with a low-paid case.

We got to pay security guards $100 an hour, man.

If they got to go face-to-face with the feet lawyer, well, technically, I'm wearing a toe ring.

It's just like,

we just got to call this one, fellas.

Get her out of here.

Show me where it says shoes.

Honestly,

shoes.

You just got to drag them out.

You just got to drag them out and take whatever.

They'll sue you afterwards.

But honestly, nobody is going to take their side.

Even if they're right from a legal standpoint, no one's ever going to take their side.

So you're going to be fine.

Just the toe race.

The first person in the world is the foot lawyer.

Yeah, he goes,

similarly, foot coverings, especially in the non-healthcare/slash non-sterile lab environment, means one has to have something to cover their feet.

Here, an easy example is a sock.

I also think that a foot covering policy might ban flip-flops since the foot is not covered.

Rather ironic.

Socks could be okay, but flip-flops are not.

What do you think?

Have we found a solution/slash-loophole?

Well, I think that you, I think that it's fucking ridiculous to show up to an event with your socks on and no shoes i mean yeah

i think that's crazy

tommy pickles what the is that yeah that's worse than anything it's worse than barefoot showing up in your socks is worse and honestly it's like you need help man like hey if i just you just see a guy walking around in socks you'd be like dude are you like shell shocked or you know what yeah did you come did you come from somewhere like do you know what i mean was there like an actually it's a loophole so i can be barefoot and i'll be like all right cool i'm gonna go get the police i'm gonna escalate this immediately for everyone's behalf i think that like somebody who is just wearing socks seems like they had to leave somewhere quickly like that's the only reason i could ever think of you were just caught cheating on your wife right is that what you're wearing socks for yeah well that's interesting because it this guy accomplished ad asked this question would it count if i just wore socks in public i live in a big city with thousands of people, and going fully barefoot would probably attract more attention than I'd want.

Those freaks would probably be weirdly obsessed with me walking around barefoot.

But if I wore just socks, I could still feel semi-barefoot while keeping my feet protected and clean, all while drawing less attention.

What do you guys think?

More attention, as we just said.

As we just said, it's more attention.

Walking around wearing socks is more odd than walking around wearing software.

Just wear a t-shirt that says, ask me about my feet.

Yeah.

It is weird, man, man because you you you know what i picture the the reason i put this in here is because like i was picturing the guy walking around in his socks and they're they're dirty and they're also like hanging off the front of his foot and like they're just like all falling because dude the city will tear your fucking socks up there's just no no way

crazy types of fungus in your toenail you're getting all kinds of stuff in there every kind of trash is on the ground batteries

people peeing People taking number twos.

Animals taking number twos.

Rats dying, birds dying.

Yeah, but they the barefoot people don't.

That's what you mean the earth?

That's called the earth.

And it's actually

you want to kiss that every day with your feet, with the bottom of the body.

Well, what they would say to you is your shoes get that stuff on them too.

But that's theirs.

That's okay.

That's damn.

That's fine.

That's why I'm wearing them, dude.

That's the whole point.

Yeah, we're on the same team, man.

I think the worst thing to me,

barefoot guys, God bless you.

The foot lawyers, it's a pitiful state of being.

It's a pitiful person to choose to be.

Even if you're technically right, sometimes you just got to let it go.

Sometimes you just got to let it go.

A lot of people aren't into it, man.

It's just what it is.

They want to see the concert.

They want to see the concert.

But it's like, yeah, you have to pick one or the other sometimes.

And I'm sorry, but yeah, you're right.

To just be like, ever be that person where you're just like bothering some employee with some horrible like legal loophole shit on any sort of a thing, it makes you really terrible for sure.

And to be doing it with your feet out, it's pretty weird.

It's annoying.

You're being like,

you know, you're being annoying.

That's the thing.

The fuck community.

People that are just plain annoying, right?

Like the people in the world that are annoying but don't know that they're annoying, I can give them a pass because it's just like this guy doesn't know he's annoying but if you're standing in line to go to a hockey game or something and you're like well actually it says uh footwear and i'm wearing a toe ring

then you're just you know what you're doing you're being intentionally annoying like yeah you like you're aware of it it's like no i'm being annoying but i'm doing it for this like righteous thing and that's like yeah that is really if i'm if i'm part of the foot community i'm thinking about you know know, this type of guy is going to fuck it all up for us.

Yes, right?

Because if I'm worried about foot prisons, right?

If I'm really worried about foot prisons, the government's going to come to my house and make me wear shoes even when I go to bed, right?

You know, it's going to be

the foot lawyers that evoke the wave of hostility.

It's going to be the foot lawyers.

If somebody wins like a high-profile barefoot case, you know, to be able to

go barefoot to like a football game

or something,

they're not respected the way it'll turn that will never happen keep your foot lawyers in check it will never happen because they're so they have no respect from anybody in the world everybody laughs at them you're honestly you would think that the foot lawyers are the scourge of the barefoot community but that is not the only person

uh this person says is there any scientific evidence that earthing slash grounding has health benefits

so i'm new to earthing i'm thinking to try it but is it actually scientifically proven to have benefits?

If yes, how exactly does it benefit you?

Does walking barefoot only benefit you in doing it on actual soil?

Or does walking at home also have benefits?

Is it good for depression?

Thanks for your help.

Okay, this guy, first guy, normal guy.

Here's your normal guy.

I've never seen any convincing evidence.

It's pseudoscience at best.

I can say, I can't say much about depression, but what I can say is it helps me calm my mind down when I have too much swirling in my head.

I like to go to the park for nightly nightly walks, and being barefoot really helps in calming my mind and helps me be present in the moment.

I use it like a form of meditation, mindfully walking and thinking of nothing in life but enjoying the textures beneath me.

That incredibly reasonable man.

Incredibly reasonable.

That's a thousand down votes.

Well, what?

Oh, I thought that was a real thing.

I was like, this is the most hated man.

He's like fucking Mr.

Rogers for the barefoot movement.

You got to platform that guy.

Yeah.

And so the next guy answers and goes, It's very simple.

We are beings of electricity.

Electrons flow through our body and hold us together.

The earth is grounding.

When you connect to ground, your electrons free flow and stabilize.

There is no magic.

It's just a lost connection to the earth since the invention of rubber sole shoes.

And people are now rediscovering how humans are connected to the earth.

Not some spiritual stuff, even just scientifically.

Now, this guy saying we're beings of pure electricity.

Dude, I can feel those fucking electrons.

electrons.

They feel great, man.

I love these electrons from the ground, man.

It's the electrons guy.

We love them.

This guy goes, well, there may be other explanations.

We suggest that rapid resolution of inflammation takes place because the Earth's surface is an abundant source of excited and mobile electrons, as described in our work.

So excited and mobile electrons.

Being barefoot's the same thing as drinking Gatorade.

Yes.

Well, they do say that we absorb more electrolytes through our feet,

which then those electrolytes come from the ground.

Is there any kind of graphics where they'll have like a guy's feet and then they'll have it next to a tree and they'll show the roots absorb nutrients and then they'll show the guy's feet absorbing nutrients?

There are a lot of pictures of people's feet.

I will say that.

Way more pictures of feet than was in a foot fetish episode like i saw so many pictures of guys feet and and you know what they would be like look how great these feet look right like i've been walking barefoot for two years look how great my feet look they look exactly the same but dirty to me every time

this guy goes 100 pseudoscience and uh uh he gets a see this is the fight

He thinks the foot lawyers and hey, you're being annoying pain in the ass.

But the real fight here is between the guys that are like, you got to get those electrons moving.

And the guys that are like, stop saying this stuff.

You make us look fucking crazy.

Nice.

And that is true, right?

That is true.

It does make them seem like when you start saying that stuff, like, oh, it like brings the electrons in through the core.

Like, that's when, you know, people are like, oh, so it's not just like about like just walking barefoot and having the freedom of being out of shoes.

Like, you guys are like, actually loony.

Yeah.

So I think that that's, that's correct.

That brings a lot of shame probably to the community.

I think both of them do.

Also, the guys who are in line saying, like, no, this is actually a foot covering.

They're all bringing shame to the community.

Yeah, this guy goes, the fact is, there are studies showing physical changes and benefits from grounding, which do need further research.

But you claiming it's pseudoscience is actually anti-science.

Since there is no research disproving it, but there are studies showing it.

Fucking science works.

There's no research disproving it.

There's a lot of stuff that there's no research disproving because there's no need to because it's

so stupid.

Nobody felt the need to ever disprove it.

Because

everyone's just like, no,

we just know that that's not true.

But there are studies showing an effect and mechanism.

If you were a scientific and truthful person, you would say, quote, preliminary studies demonstrate an effect, but we need more studies.

But you're not.

You don't actually understand science, and you yourself are providing misinformation.

Do you actually have the moral character to admit you are wrong oh this is why i don't argue i just

i don't argue anymore this is what everybody fucking sounds like when they're arguing to me now i just i gotta just not do it yeah and when the next guy goes you don't have the guts to admit you're spreading pseudoscience so we are in a real fight here

This guy goes to checking profiles.

They're checking past posts.

They're seeing what else this guy is into.

They're seeing if there's any pictures of this guy.

Who's this guy talk talk to?

They're getting their fingers in there.

They're ready to go.

Their eyes are narrowing like a predator.

I love this guy.

I love this person.

So this guy goes, the bottom of our feet are covered.

This is the science, everybody.

Get ready for some science.

The bottoms of our feet are covered in sweat glands.

Sweat in itself is more conductive than just water due to the presence of electrolytes.

When we ground barefoot, the combination of sweat from the bottoms of our feet and the negative ions from the earth causes an exchange through the sweat ducts in our feet.

Inflammatory byproducts within the body almost always give off a positive charge, while anti-inflammatory byproducts are negatively charged.

The negative ions from the earth work synergistically with our body to pull these positively charged.

Synergistically?

Yeah.

Like, I know that it, you know, but it's like, if I ever hear that, I don't know, man, that might be synergistically.

I'm kind of like, oh, okay.

I'm not really sure you're above board.

That's a word somebody who has a Bluetooth headset uses.

Ions.

I think.

I mean, guy bringing it up.

Synergistically is something someone says who is trying to sell you on something that is going to rip you off seriously.

It's like that type of thing.

Synergistically, we're working on improving the like that's that it's like a sales pitch type thing.

I think ions is the thing that that kind of hits me.

Like, as in like

a guy talking about ions,

I'm going to just be like, listen, okay, man, have fun with the ions.

I don't know what to tell you.

I love these ions shooting through my body.

Love it.

Yeah, yeah.

That you could feel ions.

It's the craziest thing, like, that they are saying, like, hey,

Ernest fucking goes to jail powers from walking barefoot in there.

He goes, hey, I walk out of my house and I touch the asphalt outside and those fucking ions just go crazy.

Oh, buddy, are you kidding me?

Asphalt ions?

Asphalt ions are fucking insane, dude.

Have you ever had like linoleum ions?

Buddy,

those kind of make me feel a little

the linoleum ones make me feel a little sleepy, but like somebody who's just convinced that every place they step is like directly impacting their body.

Yeah, I mean, it's not much past that, honestly.

I

feel like, again, again, I feel like maybe there's where does that come from, I guess?

Just people who want to be barefoot and then they're they come up with stuff, yeah, like longing for a deeper reason why it's good and why their whole like life's purpose is actually something that everybody else should be doing, or what, yeah, maybe try to get other people.

You just have fun with it, you have a higher tolerance of the metaphysical.

So, somebody says something, you let it go away.

These communities are not really the type, these are not STEM guys jumping on each other.

These are, you can kind of say say whatever you want.

In fact, I think in this community, you would have to really kind of reel back in order to get somebody to go, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on.

Let's take a break here.

It's an escalation of opinion that's just very, very tolerated.

And sooner or later, you're going to get guys, and everyone's a genius.

It is the same thing as a sovereign citizen in a way, because like they have this idea, like, I don't want to have to go get my driver's license.

So here's all the reasons I shouldn't have to get my driver's license.

And this is like, barefoot people are looked at,

not by me.

I'm fine with it.

Whatever.

Do what you want.

But like,

there are people who are like, get those feet and shoes.

You know what I mean?

I don't have a positive opinion of barefoot people, right?

If I see a barefoot person in the street, right?

There's a 0% chance that a barefoot person is ever going to make my life easier.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

That's what it is.

Is when you are a barefoot person in the world, you are now a potential, you are viewed at as a potential problem.

At best, you can be neutral.

At best.

It depends where you are, of course.

But yeah, if you see someone who's clearly a barefoot person where they're in a situation where nobody else is barefoot and they are Sands Beach, anywhere but the beach.

Well, at a park or whatever, I could see it.

That's a nice summer day at the park or whatever.

You want to slip your shoes off.

You're playing a little frisbee or something like that.

It depends how ugly they are at the park that's my rule if you're too ugly you got to keep your shoes on at the park i will let it slide at the park on a nice day i'll let it slide but yeah anybody who's like

i'm gonna let it slide today downtown downtown on like any day downtown if you're just like walking on like the sidewalk or whatever yeah you i mean like i'll be honest with you like truly the only people i see walking barefoot are like people who are like you know are unhoused people like in vancouver Vancouver, there's a lot of unhoused people.

So you're generally going to see people who are barefoot who are, I don't see a lot of these.

Again, I don't know that I've encountered one of these like barefoot as legal type people.

I don't, I don't.

They're point provers usually.

You're prover.

If you're in the city and you're doing it, you're proving a point.

And I just think that I don't know that, like, I always thought of them as someone who just, I know that they do exist, but yeah, because I've never encountered them, I always thought of them as this online phenomenon that just like, you know, is on these message boards, but no one's really i've seen people people aren't out there at restaurants being like no i'm allowed to they are i looked at pictures of guys at bars without shoes on like i looked at a million because

i look at pictures no but they were they take pictures they take pictures of each other's feet like they will be like oh my god i ran into another barefoot guy at this bar and they'll take a picture of his feet and then they'll they'll catch me

there's they'll also the other thing that they'll do often is they're like, if I'm barefoot and somebody asks me about it, get ready, motherfucker, because I'm going to talk about ions.

Oh, my God, dude.

I just realized it's also like,

like,

like when I would, when I, I get the same thing of like how they have a speech prepared.

It was like when I was like in college and you'd be hanging out with like Obama era DSA people who were so passionate and ready to give you the speech at a moment's notice like that, that's what I'm getting a little bit from the foot guys is that that sincere over-eagerness that completely blows their cause.

Yeah, right.

And it is, it is one of those things where like they have memes saying like, Don't ask me about being barefoot because I'll fucking go crazy on you.

Yeah, you know what I mean?

Visitarians or whatever.

Now that's a funny meme.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But the good thing, I think,

I don't think that it would be objectionable to me if a guy said, I go barefoot because I like, I don't like shoes and like all that.

Like if a regular guy said that.

Now, if this guy, where he's saying, like,

he goes, these negative ions attach themselves to our red blood cells due to the content of iron in our blood, the results in causing polarization of the blood cells, basically causing the blood cells to push away from one another as opposed to clumping up.

This separation allows for better blood oxygenation and better blood flow, allowing the blood to become more viscous.

That would be a time for me to like try to figure out how to get out of the conversation.

I'm out of there.

Yeah.

That's like, that's the anti-vax kind of like, you know, it starts to feel that kind of way.

Like, oh, you're like, you know what I mean?

You don't like believe in real science and stuff and you're like sort of living in a different reality than I am right now.

And like, it would, it would, it would definitely get my, like, I would be,

you know, I'd get my back up there for sure.

And then definitely when they said, what was the word that they used that I really

synergistically.

Synergistically.

Certainly when synergistically hit, I would be fucking running out of there like a cartoon character.

You'd just see my fucking clothes still there and I would be gone in a little bit.

I'm great at disengaging with like old guys in public that want to talk to me.

I'm really good at it because I get targeted a lot because I'm tall.

So a guy will, that's an instant conversation starter with anyone over the age of 55 because they'll be like, I knew I had a brother that was tall.

But what I found works is I had once a guy approach me to riff about the Land of Lakes butter mascot, and he was holding it up, and I could see he was loading the riff.

They took the Land of Lakes fucking butter mascot.

What the fuck?

And I had him, I saw him approaching me holding the Land of Lakes thing.

And I just, he started saying, you know, and I go, I'm not interested in that sort of thing.

And I didn't prep it, but I use that every fucking time.

It works every time.

If you just told, look an old man dead in the eyes and tell him you are not interested in that type of thing.

He has no idea how to take it.

Yeah.

I mean, this is a real white knight thing, but I did have like just somebody who's making like a racist.

You know what I mean?

Like saying something like, hey, how about this with that?

And it wasn't that long ago, like within the last six months.

And I just said to him, hey, man, oh, sorry, buddy.

I'm not, I'm not a racist guy i apologize

i thought we were keeping the what we were talking about before off of the podcast what

what

oh in the joke i was saying i was the racist guy you were confronting oh yeah 13 minutes beforehand that's what i mean the the thing with me is like i am

very

confrontational i'm very racist it was just it was like

sorry i just want to say branson the reason that i had to stop you there is because i was worried that you were referring to the actual homophobic thing I was saying before the show started.

I'm just joking about that as well, everyone.

Was it any good?

Relax, Branson.

This person says, damn.

No, Brian.

Please, Brian.

So, what was the thing that you were going to say?

I cut you off, and what were you going to say?

I don't remember now.

Okay, well, that's this person goes.

That's the risk.

That's my memory.

Damn, couldn't have said it better myself.

People forget that before we wore shoes and used the internet and ate horrible food, that we were all special, powerful beings, full of spirituality, knowledge, and light.

Just look at the indigenous tribes.

We had the ability to heal ourselves.

We had the ability to work in nature.

We lost our connection to our spirituality.

So important to immerse yourself in nature and ground yourself.

Listen, I believe that that is, there is definite truth to what they're saying there in the fact that, yeah, we have lost our connection to nature in a lot of ways.

Like, there's a lot of people who are.

Barefoot equals avatar, I think, is what he's getting at.

But they have zero connection.

There's a lot of people living in the city and they have zero connection to like the nature around them, like, you know, anything like that.

And I think that that is like a strength of indigenous communities and something that we've lost.

But I just don't know that the barefoot thing is the way back in.

I just don't know that that is the way back in.

You know, we, you know,

regardless of all this discussions of government and financial systems and the large-scale industry of people,

it's about our fucking shoes.

Yeah, if we could just have, if we, if I could, honestly, if old Donnie Trump would just pop off his shoes and socks, that would, I think, make a big difference in this world.

Brian, did Brian freeze?

I think we lost Brian.

Oh, I thought he was making a face.

Yeah, I thought he was just

Brian.

This is this, Branson.

I want to say this is unprecedented, but it's very

precedented.

Oh, how many precedents you got for this one?

There's been a few of them for sure.

And you just, the question becomes, you know, when will it be?

It's a kicked cord scenario, I think, is what I'm calling a kicked cord.

Because it wasn't like a gradual thing.

It was a

Can I tell you?

It's always a kicked cord.

It's a kicked cord, yeah.

Yeah, it's always a kicked cord.

What's he got?

What is he working with there?

Was he got a focus right?

I'm seeing an XLR there.

He's got to have a focus.

You know, those focus rights, you'll plug into them real secure.

And then they got that shitty USB connection.

I have a Scarlet.

I think mine is a focus.

I think

he does not.

He has some weird.

It's the computer he turns off, just to be clear.

He kicks off his whole computer.

Oh, is it a button situation?

Or a cord or something like that?

Let's find out, though.

He's back.

Yeah, that's.

Brian, you want to tell us what happened?

Oh, now his audio's off.

Now his audio's off, yeah.

Yeah, just a second.

Oh, he just gave us the finger.

No, he just took it.

Was that was the patient finger?

That was the patient finger, not the middle.

Now he's on unmuting.

No, he's muted himself now.

And now he's frozen again?

Nope, Brian?

You're muted, yeah.

Now I can hear you.

Now I can hear you.

Sorry, guys.

I don't know what happened there.

Did you kick the board?

Did you kick the board?

Did you turn the computer off?

It turned off, yeah.

I don't know.

It turned off.

I didn't touch it.

It's so far away from me.

Oh.

One of my screens went green and the other two went black and then it just started rebooting.

Going hot?

Is it running hot?

So that's not great.

I think so.

That's not great.

But again,

we discussed it, Brian.

You desperately need to get yourself a new computer for your work.

Get yourself a real iron horse.

He bought this computer off of eBay a while ago, like our used computer.

He needed something when his finances were in a certain way.

He needed something to be able to record and stuff with.

But

he should, in my opinion, because he relies on this stuff for his job, is that he should have a computer that doesn't turn off in the middle of the recording, ideally.

Put it on the card.

There's so few expenses for a fucking podcast.

Well, we don't have any, really.

I mean, Brian, we had some money sitting there, and we just used it to put the, we were doing a live show in Vancouver, and we used it for the deposit for that.

But yeah.

I will get a new computer.

I apologize for that.

That was.

That sucked.

That was very unprofessional.

And I'm just happy that it happened.

I will say this.

I'm happy that it happened right now now with our friend Branson and not the last episode you were

with.

I didn't really give it to you.

Well, we did just the episode with Tim Heidecker, and that would have really stunk if it happened in the middle of that.

Oh, yeah, you don't want to look Bush League there.

He'll start spitting.

He'll start never.

You fuckers will never make it.

We'll never hear the end of it, and he'll be going off on us, railing on us on his show on cinema.

Yeah, it would have been.

Like railing us?

Yeah.

So this, here's a question.

Hey, when you first started going barefoot, how long did it take your friends and family and acquaintances to get used to seeing you not wearing shoes?

Now, my family would be shocked because

I wear shoes.

Famously.

Famously, I put shoes on when I wake up and take them off when I'm sitting on the edge of my bed about to lay down and go to sleep.

So he never takes his shoes off.

I sort of mentioned it a little bit, but yeah, it should be mentioned that Brian is the exact opposite.

He is a, he is like, you would be considered an absolute fucking monster to these people.

Well, and the thing we've talked about this before, right?

Like,

uh, I do have Birkenstocks that I wear around the house, but if I woke up this morning and put on the Birkenstocks and walked around or did whatever my daily thing is, then at the end of the day, I'd still have to put a pair of shoes on for a few minutes because then because I feel weird not wearing shoes.

I'd feel strange to have my feet out so uh

yeah i i am just like my family would be like

oh finally he took his shoes off yeah at first they'd be like oh this is great and then you never put them on then they'd be like wait a second he's gone you know yeah i'm trying to think of how yeah my family would react but yeah people would react like what the i go to like uh i go i'm just thinking when i go to that restaurant and have uh rigatoni with charlie every now and then during the happy hour and like they know me pretty well and like I start having that conversation with them all of a sudden like oh yeah by the way I don't wear shoes anymore because I would have to I would have to talk to them about it like can I come in here

it would be a real and my yeah my like obviously and my wife and my yeah Branson do you think you could pull it off or do you think that you would be able to like no

i have a i like i'm a large man i'm sort of like livestock in a lot of ways in which i do generate more smells you know i'm a i'm a i'm six six like like 260, right?

So it's like, I'm like, you know, if I'm, if I'm going to work or something like that and I come home, my feet are going to fucking reek, really.

I'll keep my shoes on because my feet will fucking reek.

So it's like, if I show up at somebody's house and take my shoes off, it's like I'm just showing up and taking a big like shit in their kitchen.

Branson, how about this?

How about this, Branson?

Maybe your feet ain't going to smell anymore if they're always free and they're always out there breathing and they're not.

Well, they're going to get mad at me at work if I show up.

It's a

Oh, you can't go to work.

What's your job that you can't be barefoot?

I work at a community college.

Oh,

people try to walk in barefoot.

You think it would be strange if you're walking around all of a sudden without any socks or shoes on it?

It might be a little bit strange.

I think it might be a little bit strange.

But the stench is inevitable.

Would your boss?

I just got to be a grown man and manage it.

Would he call you into the office?

You think your boss, like, in all seriousness, like, you know, would he call you in and say, hey, you, you know, what's the, what's going on with the, with the saw, no shoes.

Well, I was just, you know, really, honestly, I've been skirting the dress code all year.

I've been wearing jeans and white shoes, and they keep telling me I'm not supposed to wear white shoes.

But if I don't ever get anything written about it, I'm going to keep wearing the white shoes.

I did that.

Branson, back when I was at the cable.

I had a co-worker almost fucked that up.

She's like, can we wear white shoes?

I'm like, shut the fuck up.

Yeah, leave my shoes alone.

I used to get to the cable company in my boots and then pull out and go park in a parking lot and put my regular Nikes on for the rest of the day.

And then I'd have to pull into a parking lot and put my boots on at the end of the day.

When I worked at a group home, I worked at a group home for a while, like with a juvenile

alternative, like juvie kids, like 16 through 18.

And

I used to have to tell my coworkers, like we'd be hanging out in the living room of the group home with like eight kids.

They're all like 16, 17.

I'd be like, I'd have to tell like these 24-year-old women, put your fucking shoes on.

Do you think 16-year-old boys, there's not one of them that thinks something, put your fucking shoes on right now.

And I only mention that because it wasn't like a one-time thing.

I had to tell three to four different people that work there to put their fucking shoes on.

I think there is an assumed sort of barefootness of like the house that like uh you know some people could not handle.

I see.

They would get horny again, and we're not talking about that this time, but sometimes people obviously, as we know on this podcast, some people are really in defeat.

This guy goes, uh, they still aren't used to it.

The culture around me is unfortunately very barefoot hostile.

There's a lot of struggle.

Caltrips.

A lot of cow trips in my community.

It's barefoot hot.

Barefoot hostile.

Yeah, just like.

burrowing bees.

There's digger bees, you know.

Got to look out for those in my community.

I saw a lot of guys getting stung by bees.

I feel like a sharp tack turtle.

I keep stepping on the old sharp tack.

I do have a few.

I'll get to those in a second because I want to.

This guy goes, I thought my old lady was used to it by now.

Nope.

She acknowledges that barefoot and is healthy and all, but is still concerned about what other people think.

That's the only wife post, by the way have any of you guys ever heard a sentence start off with my old lady and it's ever a guy saying anything fucking nice about his wife we don't hear it we we never hear anybody

my old lady prefix we never hear anyone say anything positive but but that makes sense brian i feel like a lot of single guys in this community like not a lot of married people that are in the barefoot community unless your wife is in it with you like i don't think it's it doesn't feel like a lot of our communities are like oh my this is how my wife feels about it.

My wife's always complaining.

But yeah, I just don't even imagine there's a lot of guys who are like, fully barefoot is legal and then their wife is just like a normal shoe person.

That wouldn't really work, right?

Not a lot of eager compromisers in the barefoot vocal community.

I think that's part of the problem of them being single more so than the barefoot thing.

I do find it interesting that this guy's wife, you know, is like,

I, hey, it's healthy.

I know barefoot is healthy, but I just, I don't want people, I don't want to walk around town

and have people looking at me.

Yeah, it's normal.

That's normal.

That's normal.

And listen, you can say, like, oh, who cares what everybody thinks?

Whatever, you know, but it's like, that's also normal.

You live in your community.

You don't want everybody talking about you, your freakish barefoot husband who, you know, is always fucking arguing with the concierge.

I'm actually allowed in there.

I'm allowed into the library.

I'm allowed into the bar.

Like, oh, hi, Janice.

How are you?

Janice,

how are the kids?

Oh, I'm fine.

He's yelling behind her as she's like trying to have a conversation with somebody.

He's just trying to push his way into a parent-teacher conference.

You can't tell me I'm not allowed in here.

I think that's a normal thing.

Yeah.

Like the weird thing I do often is

I show up in my shoes and they're like, take your shoes off.

And I was like, no, I'll just stand here.

And I stand in the foyer where you can still wear shoes.

Yeah.

And yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm just like, if you want to talk to me, you're going to have to come up to the door.

And people, I mean,

I would certainly assume that you have like a massive foot odor problem.

My feet smell not.

My feet smell good.

I know that.

I know that.

And they look good.

I know that.

They're beautiful.

But I just would assume if I ever said to someone, like, hey, you got to take your shoes off to come in.

And they're just like, no, they, how do I what?

How do you know his feet smell good?

Because I've hung out with him.

I've spent time with him.

Okay.

Yeah.

Like, we spent time with him.

Everything smells good, brand.

He's just a good-smelling guy.

He's a really fresh, good-smelling guy.

I've hung out with him in the hotel room, and we've been there and

tried and tested.

That's maybe not true.

Maybe I haven't seen him without shoes on.

You haven't.

I can guarantee you haven't seen me without shoes on.

So that's true.

From my understanding, you had smelled his feet.

Yeah, no, I haven't.

I mean, I just know that he smells really good.

Like, he just has a really good, fresh smell to him.

Because I'm obsessed with it.

Yeah.

But because his old house used to smell like wet, big, wet dog all the time.

Big wet dogs.

And then I let a girl borrow my starter jacket.

Oh, this is high school.

This is a nasty.

And she took it, you know, I'm like, you can wear it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then she came back and she's like, I took it off.

It smells like dog.

Yeah, that.

And I was like, fuck.

That's like a lock-in moment in your memory banks.

I remember having a similar experience where somebody said I had a rat stash, and I'm like, Terminator-style 13-year-old boy.

Like, I have to go home and learn how to shave right now.

Well, it was like she took it to the the thing that got me the most about that is that she took it to class with her, away from me, a different class.

And when she said that,

I was like, oh my God, they probably spent that whole class talking about my coat.

Like they were probably

chatting it up about the coat.

And I was like, that is so embarrassing.

They might have had like song parodies about it, even if I'm thinking about the way, you know what I mean?

I don't have any off the top of my head, but I just, I feel like, you know.

yeah, so that was embarrassing to me.

This guy goes, This is the rub: the best thing to do is just let yourself stop caring what people think.

Now, this is in response to a guy saying his wife,

so a lot of compromisers in the community, yeah.

He goes, Uh, especially the people in the street who you've never spoken to and probably never will.

Don't put thoughts in strangers' heads that you don't know that they're thinking, just smile, be confident, or act it, and dress the best you can.

It really changes perception.

Now, I don't believe that you can dress well without shoes.

I apologize to all the shoeless people.

I just think in order to be dressed well,

you gotta have shoes on.

Even if you got tuxedo and you're like have no shoes on, you still look like George of the fucking jungle.

Yeah.

Yeah, you take the shoes out of the equation.

It's hard to be formal.

Yeah, it's true.

It's a big part of the formal dress is the shoes.

This guy goes, my wife calls me a street urchin, and I had to look that up.

When I walk, he doesn't know what a street urchin is.

He goes, when I walk the dog barefoot around our neighborhood, she always tells me to put shoes on and sometimes catches me out looking at our ring doorbell.

So this lady really doesn't like barefoot.

Like this lady, honestly, his house is barefoot hostile.

Well, just like, imagine like marrying some guy and things are going well and, you know, just kind of have a normal life between you.

All of a sudden he's fucking barefoot all the time.

You're fucking this whole thing up ronald just put some shoes on is this

feel like like one of those things where like a lot of divorces happen from covid because people started to just like like the the vaccine coming out i think caused a lot of

like divorces and stuff because people are like oh shit my husband's stupid or

this motherfucker's heavy anti-vax hey he's like the fucking vaccine causes divorce and shit like that i don't know about that well i'm saying, I'm saying, like, I think a lot of people lived together during COVID and they discovered that their husband is fucking stupid or that their wife is just fucking stupid or weird.

And they ended the relationship.

You know what I mean?

And I think the vaccine, to me,

is a

very obvious point where people were like, oh, he thinks vaccine shedding is real.

You know what I mean?

Like, the vaccine caused a lot of this weird.

Well, also, if you get divorced for being like a foot guy, you're not going to be less of a foot guy after getting divorced.

You know, now you're a fucking she left me and I'm a fucking all in.

I'm pushing all the chips in on being a foot guy.

I'm not, I don't have a wife anymore, so I'm just a foot guy.

So this better work out.

This guy would call it Brian stinky jacket.

This guy goes, she sounds like she doesn't have enough to do, in my opinion.

Fucking bitch.

That's the undertone of every single one of the brand new fans.

That is just, that is a draw.

Who does she think Sheen Franken is?

Get her something to do.

Buy her a game or a jigsaw puzzle.

Yeah.

Buy her some sort of game where she can be like, she could, she can, like, pretend to be like a CEO of

a handbag company and make handbag perfect.

Give her a cup and a ball on a rope.

Tell her to buzz off.

Get her a ball on a rope.

And she tried that kiss.

She fucking

not have enough to fucking do.

This guy guy's wife was concerned, but after a year, it became normal.

My parents never really accepted it, but dad just never really said anything, although he did advise me not to go on the radio about it, fearing ridicule.

And mom sort of accepted it, but insisted on shoes in some places like town when with her.

The rest of the family and friends, either no comment or no issues or acceptance.

Again, it took maybe a year.

What a bad son.

What a bad.

When it comes to your mother, if your mother asks you to put shoes on, put your shoes on.

What a bad son.

Terrible son.

Making your mother have to be like, if we go to the restaurant, you're making your mother do that.

You choose every day on God's green earth who to be.

And you're making your mother beg you to put shoes on.

It's a damn shame, is all it is there.

It's a damn shame.

Yeah.

I think the thing that hit me really was that his dad asked him not to go on the radio and talk about his I'd be completely fine with going on the radio.

I think he'd be completely fine.

I think that was a rat, you know, really, your son's a foot guy.

You just kind of have to let

that dad's old school.

He's like, well, God, don't be saying it on the radio.

You know what I mean?

But here's the thing about every dad.

You know, I don't even know if my dad knows I have a podcast.

You just don't have to tell your dad some stuff.

Yeah.

I mean, it's weird.

He's not listening to the radio.

I love the dad saying, let's keep this shameful secret away from the public eye.

Yeah.

You

don't wear shoes.

This person goes, I doubt they ever will.

I often wear shoes in their company.

It's easier that way.

That guy, I feel bad for that guy.

I do feel bad for him, but everything he says correct.

It's easier.

You think I like everything I do around people all the time?

Come on, buddy.

Put some shoes on.

Not a big deal.

Yeah,

it's your commitment to it, though, right?

Those are like some people would say, well, you're not really doing it.

You're not really like and then but he's just saying like you know what i just want to i still want to do it like when i'm alone when i have the opportunity but i also just want to live a normal life where everyone still likes me and i can have normal conversations with people too which which i think is probably a good way to be yeah i mean if you're barefoot all the time and it's not a thing

it like

as once it becomes your

whole reason for being, which is very strange with something like being barefoot, because it's kind of, you take your shoes off that's it it's not like a big activity you know what i mean but like this guy goes wait how long will it take to getting used to seeing someone

seeing you not wearing a shirt at home or going commando or no clothes at all society's rules are arbitrary yet people do not recognize the conditioning they went through which may well have led them to despise the mere thought of exposing any tabooed body parts people don't know how to deal with dissenters and deviants eric fromm called this some escape from freedom.

He argued freedom, while celebrated officially, also brings uncertainty, anxiety, and isolation.

In response to this burden, many people

unconsciously seek security by submitting to group norms and authority, conforming to social norms, or adopting rigid ideologies, even if that means giving up personal autonomy.

I just don't think that guy was talking about not wearing shoes.

Yeah, listen, man.

He is the kind of guy, though.

That's the way I imagine them all kind of talking about how it's about the freedom of that life.

Yeah, don't give up any of your, don't let them like.

But at the end of the day, I just think it's a situation where a lot of the ground is real rough and it hurts your feet.

And it's better to wear shoes on that stuff because then you won't hurt your feet.

And it's not really any deeper than that, that it's like, yeah, it's just kind of better.

People are asking you to wear shoes to maintain the pre-existing social nicety.

They don't want to revolutionize the concept and go into a whole brave new world with you.

It's probably Tuesday night.

They don't want to do that.

You just have to let, even, let's say hypothetically, your big scientific thing, your big Freudian analysis, whatever, let's say it's completely right.

So fucking what?

They're not going to change and you know it.

So fucking get along or don't.

That's your choice.

You don't have the numbers.

You don't have the numbers.

You have to be realistic.

You don't have the numbers if you're in the barefoot community to move the needle at all.

Like the same thing that you feel with like the fakeness of putting on shoes.

Everyone else in your life has to put up the fakeness of talking about your bare feet with you.

They have to fake laugh at the weird shit you say.

They have to change the subject.

You don't, crazy people don't realize this, but people are already giving you an incredibly wide berth.

Right?

People are already giving you a wide berth because you're naturally an unreasonable person.

So even if you're technically right on this, people are not listening to you.

It feels like

a bunch of people is a classic crazy guy trope, too, right?

To see like a barefoot person.

So it does like sort of bring along when you see that person, you think like,

yeah, that's a little bit something going on there, maybe.

And it's, yeah, it really is.

The second any cynicism comes out of a barefoot person, I'm out.

If you want to be a barefoot person truly in this world, you have to be fucking optimistic, Mr.

Sunshine, and then everything's fine.

But if you're a complaining ass barefoot person, shut the nobody wants to deal.

Everybody else has enough problems, and you are just a waving raw nerve.

You're right.

Like just a really positive, like, like if I found out that, do you remember the library guy who was online

that loved libraries?

If that guy, if I found out he was barefoot and he's just like, man, I just like it.

I'm just more free, man.

I just love it.

I'd be like, fuck yeah, dude.

God bless that pure soul.

Yeah, totally.

Well, let's check in here.

This person says, my girlfriend and I walk about three miles barefoot every day with her dog.

We live near a park, but have about a half mile of walking on sidewalks and concrete each way before doing two miles on grass and dirt trails down to a local beach.

Complete heaven for bare feet.

Since we're walking more than 20 miles per week, our soles are acclimated and feel like leather.

The only issue we're currently facing is the fact that our feet are stained.

Even though we clean them every morning in the shower and again after our walk, we're barefooters and tend to go places barefoot socially with friends.

And my girlfriend's a bit embarrassed about how stained our feet are.

I would think that would be something to not be embarrassed about at all in the barefoot community.

I would think that that would be a mark of honor to have the most stained foot.

It's a cause and effect situation here, really.

I mean, I don't understand what you're surprised by.

I mean, I mean, I mean, like, imagine just being like, oh, you see this little stain?

That that was a Blackberry in port in Lisbon, you know, like, and you, like, you're showing everybody where you've walked.

No, I, in all seriousness, I think that that would be, are they, are they saying they're embarrassed for a little bit?

Well, they say, like, it's a bit embarrassed about, my girlfriend's a bit embarrassed about how stained our feet are, even though they're so healthy.

Are the calluses forming over dirt?

What do you do to remove stains on your soles?

I like the line: like, my

girlfriend is really nervous about all the dirt on the bottom of our feet, but they're so healthy.

Oh, my God.

You wouldn't believe these things.

Stealing, yeah, stealing the.

I mean,

I just know you could bleach your asshole, right?

So maybe you could do something like that.

Get away from that.

Maybe you bleach the bottom of your foot and get that.

I did watch my boy Big E in college.

I did come home one day.

My roommate was just sitting in the bathtub pouring a diluted bleach and water solution over his feet.

Okay.

Didn't say anything, just walked on by.

This guy goes, if your friends know that you're barefooters, your perpetually stained souls should actually give you a ton of street cred with them.

There you go.

Stained, but otherwise clean feet denote a lifestyle.

Perfectly clean, manicured feet are a fashion statement.

Can you imagine, though?

Yeah, like that would be so you're showing up at a barefoot thing and like everyone's like, oh my God, do you see the fucking new, like somebody's got like pristine clean feet and everyone's like, hush talking?

Like, you know, like, oh my God, that would be.

So you could really sort of.

Everyone's talking about these new feet.

Everyone's looking at those new feet and it's like, oh my God, did you see fucking Brian's?

Like over the past like month, I don't know how much he's been doing, but his look incredibly dark.

Like everybody's just like really

making note of it.

And it's like the

charping and pumice or something.

It's all charcoal.

Yeah, it's, I would, I would love to, if that it sort of broke down that way.

And you've just seen some guy and he's just like in the corner with the nastiest, dirtiest feet you've ever seen.

And he's like the king.

He's like up on a bed of charcoal.

I imagine like it builds layer after layer.

Like at first, it's the bottom of your feet, then it goes to the side.

And somebody used to be barefoot for like 45 years.

It would get to his knee, you know?

It would go and crawl up.

And like rural Missouri, I remember guys would get have white beards, but like when I was in Herman, guys were dipping all the time.

Oh, yeah.

And so you would see the dip stain grow as guys ages.

So you would just watch guys, their beard get white and then the part underneath it just get brown and yellow specifically.

i hung out with a guy named i hung out with a guy named josh when i was growing up and he had he always made fun of my clothes but like he was always wearing like tight pants like tight white denim pants and stuff but see he he felt himself though he like it feel it seems to me like he was he was making conscious uh decisions and choices uh in fashion that you necessar didn't necessarily agree with but that he was very confident with but he he smoked we all smoked cigarettes right yeah but the thing about him was his facial hair came in blonde

so like all the way around he smoked so much he smoked more than even us

you know what i mean

and all around his lip was perfectly yellow a couple years ago i was on facebook and

Back when I was on Facebook, I said something about weed or something, and he responded to me, and I clicked his fucking link still there still keeping the blonde goatee in so and it just looks like a it's the it's the worst like you can't have a blonde goatee and smoke you can't do both things you know what I mean like

you got to cut it off if it but then but can you tell that it's stained or does it just kind of look cool and yellow like you know what I mean it looks really really dark yellow like when you've seen somebody's house where they smoke and you see how the walls get that's what his mustache looked like can you yeah i'd love to i really

i really love my favorite like uh habit stain is easily red wine teeth red wine teeth are the funniest fucking thing to see in the wild i love seeing an old lady with red wine teeth it like makes my whole fucking day oh yeah i i that's that one's a rough that's a rough one getting the the you go out of it you can get those dealt with i feel like right you get the teeth whitened or something yeah they rip out all them teeth and they put in brand new ones

put some lars in ears put some lars in rich ears in yeah can i get you i'll get some extra large lars please

look like a game show host

in my experience the only thing that really cleans my feet is walking around on wet sidewalks on a rainy day The only issue with dirt not coming off is it gets into the cracks in your feet.

They won't heal with dirt in them.

Soaking, then scrubbing with a nail brush or something similar works for that.

This motherfucker is just scraping his dead-ass feet on the sidewalk.

You look outside, you see him scraping his fucking old skin trail of fucking nasty ass feet stuff.

Why doesn't he just wash his head?

He's scraping off his feet on the sidewalk.

Just do that in your backyard.

Get like a back.

You can get a pumice stone.

Do not stop.

He's not doing it on purpose.

He just can't help it.

He's walking on the sidewalk.

It's a natural.

Have you never seen like what an animal sheds in the nature?

That's just, it's called nature, bro.

I've never seen a human shed.

It's called nature.

When I go outside to shed my feet, you just see two fucking big empty skin sacks that look like feet.

I find it very strange.

The thing I find strange is the amount of these guys that are like, just wash your feet in a puddle.

It's like such a weird behavior to think of.

Yeah, it's like they're a fucking Lewis and Clark or something.

Like they're still living in a trailblazing natural world.

Yeah, why can't they do it when I got to go to the stream?

Like,

did they not have a bath or a shower?

Well, it doesn't work because the dirt, like,

have you ever seen somebody's feet like at the end of the summer that walks around barefoot?

Oh, no, I know, I know, but I'm just like that.

I understand that, that, like, it's not going to work.

It's staining your skin in a way.

It's not dirt on the surface level.

It is staining your skin, and you can't wash it out in that same way.

But I just mean, why would a puddle help that?

Here's one, guys.

This guy says, barefoot, beware.

Day off today, was foraging a fig bush for breakfast.

The poor yellow jacket never saw me coming.

Left me in a full day of hurt.

There are some times when footwear is needed for safety.

Stay wild.

Is this fucking Fozzie Bear?

Did Fozzie Bear post that?

Is that live from fucking Jellystone Park?

What the?

What lives do these people live?

Well, these bits.

For lunch, I had to go get fig.

What the?

We are not.

There's nothing that guy can tell me about my life that'll translate to my life.

He lives out in the these because I feel like there are some people like that that are barefoot where they're like feeling like real naturalists or something and they like live out in a tent somewhere in like a forested area and they forage for food.

And then that would honestly make sense that they're a barefoot person, right?

You're like, you're like living like a wild man then.

But that's what you want.

That's what they say they want.

Some sort of anarcho-primitivistic lifestyle.

But why are they posting about it still?

You got what you wanted.

Yeah, but still, whatever.

Listen, man, don't hate on people for posting.

They just want people to know about how they're, you know, they're living the dream or whatever.

I feel like that.

Anybody who's out there, I like those people, those ones who are like living that life for real in the sense.

Like, you know what I mean?

They're not going into the

bank and they're not going to like the grocery store in the same way and like doing that.

Maybe sometimes they have to from time to time.

But like, yeah, like it's the people that I don't know if they exist still, but you're telling me they do.

It's the people who are like going around, living their life in the city and refusing to put shoes on and trying to go to establishments.

Right.

Yeah.

This guy goes, I stepped on a yellow jacket nest once.

I've been stung by regular bees before.

It's no big deal, but yellow jackets are a different kind of pain.

It's like you get stung again and again each time your pulse passes through the area.

Horrible.

Funny enough, I was wearing socks and sneakers at the time.

One of the stings was on the side of my foot, so the thing must have gotten inside my shoe.

That's that's a person.

That's

come on.

That's a coat.

Wore shoes for no fucking reason.

You're not, you're not stupid fucking shoes.

I bet you it didn't happen when he had shoes on either.

This guy goes, that's some kind of unlucky.

Reminds me of the time I jumped into a small pond barefoot and not realizing it was not a pond, but a ditch with boards full of rusty nails.

Sorry, I shouldn't laugh at that.

That's funny.

The visual picture.

He's still alive.

Yeah.

So even monkeys check the water before jumping in, you know?

He said, seven holes and a regimen of tetanus shots, but a free pass on driving the tractor for two months on our farm.

I don't know what that meant.

This guy goes to the middle of the house.

Well, it wasn't he didn't have to drive the tractor because he had a foot injury, so he wasn't able to drive the tractor, so he got to relax on the farm.

Yeah, this guy goes, oh, so true.

I can remember getting stung by those little shitheads as a kid leaving my swimming classes.

As an adult, I usually swap them to the ground and smush them barefoot with the ball of my foot.

Just not taking any chances these days.

I feel like that is

taking more of a chance.

Taking more

chance.

That's taking more of a chance than not engaging at all with

the yellow jacket, I feel like.

It is.

Let's do one more thing here.

This guy goes, are there many places that do not allow entry barefoot?

Yes.

I've been thinking about going to the museum barefoot.

The problem is, I don't know if they'll let me in without shoes.

And I live too far away to take the risk.

I tried posting on Brazilian subs, but my fellow Brazilians simply ignored me or thought the idea was horrible.

That's why I came here.

I mean, okay, now

that's something.

That's very clearly, you're just going to keep going until you get the answer you want, buddy.

Yeah.

Yeah, this is a very

good thing.

But I also love the sentence.

It is a beautifully psychotic sentence to say, I've been thinking about going to the museum barefoot.

You're not asking.

You're not doing any research.

You are in your mind palace imagining yourself walking around the museum barefoot.

It's almost beautiful.

He goes, even though we're from different backgrounds, is there a chance I won't be able to enter the museum?

And then this person goes, just email the museum and ask.

If they say no, ask them to send you the rules or dress code that prohibits bare feet.

There usually isn't one, and often they will back down.

I just want to be

on barefoot.

If they say they don't want you in their establishment, press them a little bit and try to force your way in.

That's like the I mean, that's like on next door where it's like, Did anybody hear that bang?

I love just going, Yes,

I heard everything.

I saw that dog.

He's missing.

He's over here.

Yes, I heard a noise.

Yes, it smells weird.

You know, I just want to be on barefoot telling everyone there.

You, if a police officer tries to stop you from walking on the court barefoot during a live NBA game, you have lethal rights to attack that van.

I'm just going to go and just encourage bad advice everywhere.

Branson, when I was doing Street Fight, I would always have this conversation about these sovereign citizen guys where they're like, oh, maritime law and all that shit.

And it's like, yeah.

But the police are just going to tase you anyway.

They don't know about maritime law.

They know, oh, we got

a guy whose ass I'm allowed to kick.

Yeah, I'm allowed to tase this guy in his car.

I'm allowed to fuck this guy up.

I get one hit.

Let's go.

This guy goes,

You might not be allowed in a lot of businesses where I am require shoes.

Although you can always get a pair of shoes with no soles or bottoms and wear those.

Would likely fool most people.

Yeah, that's the best shit so far.

That's some Dennis the Menace level thinking.

Decoy shoes where you're secretly barefoot underneath.

Man, that's really like escalating things in a bizarrely non-avoid, in a bizarrely avoidant way, but still

purely insane.

Wow.

That's one of the smartest ideas I ever heard of in my life.

In terms of like, I mean, nobody's gonna be able to do that.

But crazy people, a lot of like legitimately people that are crazy, they don't surprise you often, right?

But that is truly some surprising level thinking that I'm concerned about.

You can do whatever shoes you want.

You just buy your shoes that you like and you cut the soles out of them, right?

So you can do whatever you got away with.

I got away with it.

How do you find the shoes?

No, you just buy normal shoes and then you cut the soles, you cut the bottom part off of it, and you stick them on, and you put them on like you normally would.

It's not that hard, it's actually super easy.

There you go.

So these are a real thing.

They're called incognito kicks.

They look like they're real marble.

That is a move.

You stupid piece of shit.

You thought I was fucking wearing shoes up barefoot the whole time.

I can sprint through a marsh right now.

I could go 40 miles an hour through the mud.

You have no way to stop me.

The guy walking out of the venue, like...

showing the bottom of his foot, like just trying to kick it off.

Turning to the security guy and going, hey, Bubba, by the way.

kicking it up, like real, kicking it up, super feminine, you know, like doing the, you know, like by the way, like showing it off and then just fucking storming off.

That's amazing.

I faked it the whole time.

This guy goes, just bring a pair of sandals just in case.

Museums are kind of hit and miss.

Some, especially those displaying modern art, are frequented by lots of art types, and many will be used to all sorts of unconventional clothing choices.

Barefeet wouldn't be the weirdest thing, but others, especially the touristy ones displaying traditional works from super famous artists, may ban bare feet out of fear of scaring gullible tourists away.

They always say there's something weirder, right?

But they can't fucking ever name anything.

They're like, it's not going to be the weirdest thing.

What's weirder?

I can't.

Shirtless.

Yeah, I guess, but at least I understand shirtless, right?

Sure.

I understand.

Yes, it is.

What?

I think leaving your house without a shirt on is maybe the top craziest thing I can think of.

No, it depends if it's fucking

older than 20 years old.

Yeah.

If it's super hot outside, if it's super hot outside, I mean, it depends.

Like, yeah, where I live, it would be weird, I guess.

But, like, I think in some places, if you live in some beach town or whatever, and it's the summertime, I think people are walking around with their shirts on.

Put it on until you get in the water.

I mean, I agree with you.

I'm not, I don't, I don't, I don't love walking around seeing people, you know, walking around with their shirts off.

Male nipples.

Let's just say it.

Nobody likes male nipples.

I don't mind it as much.

I'm just, I don't like feet really.

I like, so I'd prefer to see somebody with their shirt off than their feet, than their,

yeah, than their feet.

I'm fine with people not wearing shoes as long.

If I can tell they're like enjoying it, it does bother me.

If they're enjoying it too much, you know, like, oh man, loving this.

I just don't like the look of it.

I just don't like, and like you said, it's like, I don't know.

It's like, there's the smell.

Like, I'm just not a foot person.

So I respect guys.

Like I said, the way that I fall on this is if you're a big outdoor kind of guy, yeah, go have at it.

If you're a wild man, annoying guy, I hope for lawyers.

And I do think if you're out in society wearing no shoes and no socks,

you seem weird to everybody, kind of.

People are already putting up with you, you know, a little bit of that.

And I like realize that

you're already.

The smell is like annoying and shit, too.

And it's just they're nasty.

And so I would prefer personally to see people topless, especially, hey, especially a couple, maybe some of the ladies.

Oh, nice.

I might not mind that personally myself.

There's always a chance some busybody knucklehead won't let you enter.

Have you taken a look at the museum's house regulations?

If being barefoot isn't explicitly forbidden there, or conversely, if footwear isn't explicitly mandatory, chances are you won't be accosted.

Of course, chances are also they simply did not encounter barefoot customers yet and thus didn't think of implementing a rule explicitly against us.

Take your pick of what's more unlikely.

And then finally, here's a little bit of advice: just also

do whatever you want anyway, but here's what you should argue.

Well, this guy is this our last post that goes: when you enter the establishment and encounter the ticket taker, make and hold eye contact with them.

This cost is causes most of them to reciprocally maintain eye contact with you, and they don't look down at your feet.

If you look down, so will they.

And there's a greater chance they will say something about your lack of footwear.

So

that was Dr.

Softpower's advice there to get what you want out of the world.

Just

keep staring directly at him.

That is, yeah,

people are never off-put by that.

Wear like a Chiquita banana-style hat to really distract them from your feet, you know?

Wear a crazy hat is a really good book.

Wearing a crazy hat is probably one of the best.

That's a good idea, Benson.

Yeah,

if you're wearing a crazy hat and those fake bottom shoes, like you, you're allowed to do that in my opinion.

Oh, the crazy hat, it's like should be, yeah, like really high, too.

So, it gets him looking up versus.

I would just do a beanie with a propeller.

Oh, I want it to be a real high hat, like super high up there.

So, he's like, he's looking way up there.

There's no chance you'll even sort of see your foot in his periphery or whatever.

Just any kind of distracting hat, any kind of like steampunk-style hat would also work, you know?

Yeah, that's a beautiful hat you have.

Oh, thanks so much.

The smell, oh, I'm not sure.

I think it might be some dog dew out on the uh.

I think somebody's cooking some white mushrooms in the other room.

All right.

Well, that is barefoot, guys.

People have been asking this one for a long time.

Why?

Who?

The listeners.

Name and shame.

Name and shame.

Listeners.

We don't know their names.

I get, Branson, you would not believe the amount of suggestions I get.

So

I believe you get a lot of things.

We get a lot of suggestions.

We had to delete the E1 episode suggestions idea because Andrew kept making that to piss me off.

So people would give their really bad ideas.

Well, people have the time.

For us, it's thankfully, it's like, there's not, you know, it's just a topic.

So they're not like that.

But some of them are bad.

Some of them are, but most of them are not going to name me, but some of them are so like

one guy does it.

Yeah.

You know what I'm saying?

Like,

I don't know what you want me to do here.

We get two types of recommendation.

One is you guys should do black wheelchair guys, right?

And we'll go, no, we can't do black wheelchair guys.

We're not going to explain why.

And then the other one is just like, you guys should be moderators of an anime forum here.

Here is a link of these guys here.

I think it would be funny if you did an episode and it's just we had delete.

I deleted the whole channel.

And so that's on the E1 podcast.

Check it out, though.

The good ideas that they come up with on their own, and they are very funny.

And for those of you who don't know the podcast,

you guys are doing a different podcast every time, essentially, doing different games.

Well, yeah, seven years ago, that was kind of the idea.

Every episode was a different, but really, you know, now it's just like a different thing every hour.

Sometimes we'll do scripted, but mostly improvise still.

Yeah, and it's, and that's, yeah, so

where do, and where do people, sorry, I was tuned out a little bit on my phone there.

Where do people send the suggestions in for the E1 ideas?

Because I have a couple of good ones.

So you're going to send them to my co-host, Andrew Hudson, who's on Twitter at Intelligent.

So DM him your episode ideas, and then he filters it.

He'll kind of workshop with you a little bit too, and he'll kind of bounce some ideas back and there.

And once you're kind of polished the idea by riffing it through with Andrew, then he passes it to me.

And that's when I call your cell phone, and I'm like, this is a huge honor for you.

We need you on the episode.

Your idea was amazing.

That's it.

So send it to Andrew.

Brian and I went on an episode once.

We were wrestlers on it.

I remember.

It was a lot of fun.

Oh, yeah.

We got to get you on another one.

Yeah.

Anytime.

All right.

We'll see you all next time.

Maybe just have Brian on.

He's a little pissed off because YKS asked me on my own.

So maybe just have Brian on.

No, I like doing stuff with Chris.

He needs a W.

All joking,

I'll let you end in a second, Brian, I promise.

But it is always funny to me.

I do feel like sometimes they'll ask Brian and I to come on.

Like very rarely, it's mostly Brian, right?

And then it feels like I'm kind of like the younger brother.

You know, it's like they let him bring bring me along.

I'll throw you a bone in.

Now it's the same.

Yeah, so see what he can do by himself, you know?

So I do appreciate it.

I think, I don't know, it hasn't come out yet.

Maybe we really had a, maybe we really bombed it really bad, but we did a show.

We did a podcast together.

I guess I won't even mention the name of it now because if it doesn't come out, yikes.

I think it's coming out.

I just don't know when.

It's Gareth Reynolds' podcast.

And then, yeah, we did Chef Kevin's as well.

But yeah,

just have Brian Brian on.

I'm doing YKS.

I am perfect.

I don't

need this.

Brian, I don't need it, buddy.

I don't need it.

I'm good.

I've been pretty busy, anyways, honestly.

So you take this one, man.

You take this.

You hit it out of the park.

He had to get.