Guys: Episode 119 - Classic Rock Guys III With Chris Wade

Hello, Cleveland!

Welcome to guys, the podcast about guys.

It's the third annual

because the cursed Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductees have been announced.

Is it

the Rock Guys episode?

They're still calling it that.

They're still calling it the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Now, you know, they refuse to change the name.

The guy came out and damn said it himself.

I have posts of people responding to him.

Believe it or not, people were not happy when he said we will never call it the music hall of fame.

And I love him for it.

But there's a few grenades, but we always have to bring in our music expert.

He's been on both of the classic Rock Guys episodes, Chris Wade.

Hi, Chris.

Hi, guys.

I'm Chris Wade, and I love rock and roll.

Hell yeah.

That might be one of the best intros, first lines from a guest ever.

My name is Chris Wade, and I love rock and roll.

I mean, honestly, who doesn't love a little rock and roll?

What?

Chris.

I'm going to call him Chris Wade.

Winner and Wade.

Don't say it.

Yeah, we'll start.

Wade and porno Chris is what we're going to do.

But Chris Wade and Porno Chris.

Porno Chris only listens to Fleet Fox.

It's the only band he likes.

Shut the fuck up, man.

I wouldn't even call that rock and roll.

Neither would I.

I would not call it rock and roll.

That's probably true.

It's folk.

It's folk music, and I did used to like it.

We've been over this so many times.

I have a bunch of different other.

I like a lot of really heavy music, actually.

mostly fleet foxes they're heavier songs you told me you like

I like dead meadow do you know dead meadow is that a fleet foxes song or album

fuck off

I'm going to a concert tomorrow this will already be out already be home but I'm seeing Sonic Temple so that is

with with a media pass

Yeah,

which does not let me get on the lawn, number one.

They won't let me on the lawn.

I'm not allowed to take any pictures.

And the only band they'd offered for me to interview was over Zoom, and it was three doors down.

So you did really respect it.

And you didn't take the opportunity to do a Zoom interview at three doors down.

I know them.

You know me, Superman.

Yeah,

I would put Three Doors Down as like some peak

Iraq war era music.

Yeah, definitely.

Yeah, they were definitely around when I saw the towers fall yeah yeah uh you know i believe felix from chappo has has referred to the song crazy superman several times

the thing about it is is like

when john cullen my friend went and asked for the thing i was like hey

i don't want to do any interviews with any of these guys at all I don't want to meet any of them.

I don't want to talk to them on Zoom.

I don't want to talk to them after the show.

I don't want to have any contact with any of the bands.

So I was assured that it's not problematic to turn down interviews.

Why did you, why did you, why didn't you just get a fucking ticket to the show?

Like, you don't want any of the...

I don't want to pay.

Okay, but you love freeing.

You love paying for stuff.

Not for concerts and stuff.

This is actually a good handshake because I am also going to a big show next weekend with a media pass.

My wife and I are heading out to Salt Lake City to go to Kilby Block Party, which is a really nice festival that they've been putting on out there, in which two of the bands that I'll be happy to see

are Devo and New Order, who are playing the Thursday night there, two of the snubs from this year.

So, you know, good little people.

Devo's didn't get in, and yet they let some of the non-rock and roll bands in.

I mean, I don't want to get into it, but yeah, I don't want to get too political, but you're putting a Cindy Lauper in.

Yeah, before

you're originators of mutant rock and roll, Devo.

I'm going to tell you somebody that's really mad, kind of, about Cindy Lauper, but then in the end talks himself into

Cindy Lauper.

Oh, Michael Nolan's here.

By the way,

this video is called The Rock and Roll Hall of Shame Strikes Again.

Michael Nolan, this is one of his streams.

I had to watch two hours of Michael Noland.

His caves are immense today.

He's got huge hair caves today.

For people, you click this video.

I posted this on Blue Sky 2.

Royce went on at the same time as him.

It was sick, dude.

Michael was pissed.

Are you playing that right now?

No, no, no, no.

This is here.

We go.

I'll play you this video.

I'm into his affliction-level t-shirt here.

Oh, we can get it.

We can find out what it is.

Our listeners find him every time he comes up.

They're like, here's this t-shirt.

They're usually from Timu or something.

He should be doing some affiliate marketing.

I want the shop this look link in the YouTube description.

Yeah, I mean, you know, think about

the volume of customers that these shirt companies would get if they were advertising that this is like, think about how many people are watching this right now, seeing this sort of half skull,

weird, wavy, Ed Hardy style.

Although slipknot, but not slipknot.

It's also kind of like the newspaper.

It's thin and it has like three buttons on the top as well.

Do you know what I mean?

It's like not slides.

It's like a printed Henley.

Yeah, it's a, but you know, everyone's watching this video going.

Look, I know what we're about to do.

To jump in and,

you know, have some, have some fun with this.

I do kind of have to say that I am impressed with

Mr.

Knowles'

streamer guy.

Sorry.

Mr.

Noland.

Mr.

Noland, sorry, sorry.

He would be so mad at you, Chris, if you do that.

And you do not want to make him mad.

We've seen what he does to other people.

Yeah, no, I apologize for interrupting there, but I just wanted to make sure if he heard heard that for a second and it's like you hadn't corrected yourself right away, I don't even know what would have, you know, been in store for you.

I am genuinely kind of impressed with his streamer guy setup with like the backlit red, you know, multi-level desk behind

everything.

I see it.

Sorry, Chris.

For a guy his age doing this, pulling off that

like Twitch streamer setup look, I, you know,

he's got his aesthetics down.

His aesthetic is very good.

His aesthetic is no doubt very good.

I mean, it's like good, it's like got some real corny shit on there, but it's still, it looks good and it works.

It's like we watched him unbox a few of those Led Zeppelin things.

Oh, yeah, the icorous thing.

He doesn't understand what an unboxing is, but neither do a lot of the guys we watch.

They actually will say, let me open this box and then do an edit and then come back and this stuff's just sitting there.

It's like, no, you're on.

But here, here we go.

This is his first little thing here.

And that goes for tonight.

Anything I have to say about the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame tonight will

be open to debate, of course.

And I want to hear from you, just like this deal with Oasis.

All right.

Oasis deserves to be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

I agree.

There is no doubt, completely talented band, a band made up

of people I'm not crazy about, but I'm

he's got more.

He's got more here.

Here you go.

I'm also a major Bruce Springsteen fan.

I'm not crazy about, you know, Mr.

Billionaire.

I'm not crazy about Roger Waters, but man, the second he puts out something worth listening to, I'm going to be there.

And there's, you know, I don't have to like a star or a rock artist or band,

their personalities or anything, to enjoy their music.

Their art is greater than them,

always in my mind.

Okay.

That's very magnanimous.

Yes.

They separate somebody.

But he doesn't like anybody.

Well, and also, just to be clear, yeah, he's able to, he can appreciate their music even if he doesn't like them so long as they are an older white man

who looks similar to him.

It is also like,

you know, I think this is a mentality that you do have to take into rock music, especially classic rock music, a genre populated by all-time scumbags.

But it is very funny to

point out, you know, Springsteen and Waters, who I imagine that his dislike is for

perhaps some of their more progressive-based politics.

Yeah,

it's sort of odd.

It's going the opposite way that he really...

Because

you're right about that, Chris, because my friend Brian, for example, do you know who one of his three favorite musicians is?

Danzig.

Yeah, exactly.

You know, so it's like...

What's wrong with that?

My first favorite is Peter Steele, and he's got the worst politics you've ever seen.

Yeah, that's either

more right-wing politics than Pete.

Yeah, that's my point.

That's my point is that, like, yeah, Brian really has to separate.

He

obviously isn't a fan of what they're about, but he loves them.

Look,

you know, look,

I can get down with all the, you know, the

drug-abusing rapists that populate 70s music, but I draw the line at supporting Palestine.

Look, we have to have some standards here, but if the music slaps, look, we can still get down.

We can still get down and listen to it.

It's just like, yeah, we'll never respect them or like give them money or whatever.

I like calling Mr.

Bruce Springsteen Mr.

Billionaire.

I don't, listen, maybe he's a billionaire, right?

I don't think he is.

I think Michael has had a history of not understanding numbers at all.

Like, he's listed album sales that are, would mean three people.

I mean, everybody on the planet bought the album three times or whatever.

But let's get to some posts here.

Like I said, this is John Sykes.

He goes, this is from R slash Rock, a new subreddit.

I've never been on R slash Rock.

Now,

they like Marilyn Manson a lot over there, which is insanely problematic.

Like, you get hand if you mention the accusations against Marilyn Manson.

Well, I mean, speaking about separating art from the R, I mean, I just made this jokingly post, but Marilyn Manson just put out a new song

last week, a cover of In the Air Tonight.

One of, frankly, my all-time favorite songs.

And I kind of had to do like the,

well, you know, hate the guy, but love him taking a stab at one of the classics.

Yeah.

So why the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame won't change its name despite multiple stars' complaints?

I don't think multiple stars.

I mean, if Michael Nolan's a star, that's the only one I've seen.

I feel like the rock genre can no longer have anything for itself.

Oh, yeah.

Like it's a person.

Yeah.

He goes, it's apparent that the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is now geared toward all music, despite keeping its namesake.

And it's more like a giant popularity contest where inductors are chosen by a select few.

What are your thoughts?

Now, number one,

I want to throw this out there.

Isn't it a popularity contest?

It is 1,000% a popularity contest.

Isn't that like the whole idea behind it?

Isn't that how you want it to be?

What's the alternative?

Yeah.

I mean, look.

Would I be pleasantly surprised if the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame 2026 was like, and for their excelling in the 80s underground scene, we're nominating the frogs.

The frogs, ladies and gentlemen, or, you know, something like that.

But

what do you think this is?

Yeah.

Hall of fame.

Fame.

How famous.

It literally has it in the name.

Yeah, it's how famous they are.

So the fame, I think, is measured by sort of how many people are aware of you and know about you, right?

This guy goes, and that's not to even talk about how much metal in particular has been snubbed.

And believe me, I'm with this guy.

You know, I love my heavy metal.

Iron Maiden's been nominated how many times without being inducted judas priest isn't even inducted in the main category they're in the sidemen category where's motorhead scorpions panterra slayer dio thin lizzy i guess they need to make room for all the hip-hop and r b acts

now this guy does respond i like this guy this guy rocks i don't want to be a downer

But there are only 12 hip-hop acts in the Hall of Fame out of 400 total acts.

See, nobody ever says the numbers.

You know what I mean?

Because if you listen to these guys, they will make you think that it's more than half or whatever.

Like that every year they induct like eight people and six of them aren't rock and roll.

And that's just not

well, guess what?

In my opinion, I feel as if that is 11 too many.

And that is because I'm giving a pass to Run DMC for their relationship to Aerosmith.

Yes, yes.

They get the back door through the Aerosmith connection.

Public.

Yeah, I mean, I'm sure we'll get into it, but

even this year's nominee list, this is like pretty straight down the middle rock.

You know, I'm sure we'll hear

some objections to Outcast, but anyway, you can.

Heyah is one of the great rock songs of the 21st century.

Excuse me, it's not rock.

It doesn't have an older guy with graying hair playing a guitar.

Okay, so you know what he says?

This is great.

And I don't know if I got this audio because it was long.

It was like a long explanation he had, but he's like, here's the thing.

Rap music comes from the inner city.

Okay.

Rock music does not.

Rock music comes from the plantations and the suburban parts of the country.

And that's why they're different and they should have different halls of fame.

And I was like, That's an insane, that's such an insane way to get rid of like the

rock rap out of rock and roll.

It's to say, well, I am in the inner city.

Yeah, I am interested.

I would like to drill into a geographic essentialist take on rock music.

That, you know, you have to have like a population density of under a certain number of people to

be considered rock and roll, you know?

Well, and this is my thing about halls of fame.

for anything but sports.

They should not have them.

They should not have any halls of fame for anything anything because you can objectively know that the guy you're putting in or woman you're putting in for a sport deserves to be in there because there's statistics that say it.

I'm even like that with my man Dave Meltzer's Pro Wrestling Hall of Fame.

I don't think it should exist.

I don't think any of them should.

Well,

maybe they should just drill down and do a formula that's like

units sold versus overall concert tickets times number of number one singles, and then just every year it's like, there's no decision.

It's just an automatic who hits the top top list that year as they like qualify by duration of career.

But I think it is,

I think the reason they would never do anything like that is because then some people get in that they don't want in there for real.

You know what I mean?

But I think like, also the way these guys talk.

So this guy goes 97% of the Hall of Famous rock musicians.

The problem is there are way too many great slash influential artists over decades of music for every single one of them to get their due when only five to seven get inducted each year.

The number needs to increase to 10 to 12 per year to unclog the log jam.

Now,

this is where I, this is it, okay?

Like, bad company got in this year.

I think they should have left him out because some big bands can't make it in.

You know what I mean?

Like, you're hearing people say, why is it Fog Hat in?

Why is it Boston in?

Look, some people don't get in fog hat fog hat pink i'm afraid to say fog hat just doesn't make the cut do you know what i'm saying like you have to no offense to fog hat but it's just they're just kind of not at the like they're not right at the top of the heap bag company is a perfect band to say

i mean sorry you're just under the line yeah you're really good and you were great but it's like this is the hall of fame this is like the greatest from each era

uh he goes, the number, so, and we don't need to unclog the log jam either.

Everybody should get it.

Let's jam it, jam it up more.

No, yeah, let's go down three inductees a year.

Three inductees a year, and they have to fight each other in a fist fight.

We want to increase prestige, not decrease prestige.

This is my same problem with increasing best picture nominees to 10 because they want to appeal to some populist instinct.

No, I'm sorry.

You're the Academy Awards.

Your point should be looking out at the unwashed, tasteless masses of America and saying, no, these five movies are the actual good movies that came out this year.

And they're all artsy,

that joke that people say of like, oh, all film bros want to watch like a 10-hour Italian movie about, you know, like a poor guy

cobbling shoes.

Yes, those are the good movies, and you need an Academy of Professionals to tell you that they are.

Ticket sales are the reward for Dark Knight.

Yeah.

Yeah.

2025, best picture, the 30th year in a row, English patient.

Have you watched it yet?

Go watch it.

Yeah, you haven't probably watched it, you Marvel fucking.

Go watch it.

That's why it's the fucking best picture.

You see the Marvel movies because they feel like they have to.

Yeah.

You saw it.

Like Thunderbolts.

You saw Marvel.

And this is apparently.

But Brian says Brian.

Brian has this.

He has this cool thing, though, Brian.

It's like, he's like, he noticed everybody thinks that it's...

He told me he does this because he thinks it's a cool thing to do.

He He didn't say anything.

He says he noticed everyone's liking this one.

So he's like, this one's actually not good.

I actually like the bad.

I don't think, I did not say that I liked that.

First of all, I gave this two and a half stars, which is actually a decent review.

You told me better than that.

Word for word.

You said, I prefer the bad.

This guy says, and this is great.

This guy goes back to the first induction.

Right.

He goes, he goes, it isn't just hip-hop, though.

Just looking at the initial class, you had Hank Williams, Jackie Wilson, Smokey Robinson, Arethra Franklin.

That's how he spells it, Arethra.

Arethra Franklin.

The Coasters, Marvin Gay, Louis Jordan, and Clyde McFadder, there were more RB stars than rock stars.

I get inspiration and steps along the path and all, but what the hell?

So this guy was mad right away.

The first day,

yo, you guys are mad now.

I've been racist.

All right.

This guy goes,

the issue with inducting 10 acts a year or more is it would make the actual induction ceremony incredibly long.

Ah, that's the issue.

Yes, that is the issue, though.

We have to consider the actual ceremony, and they only have the haul for two and a half hours

because their budget isn't huge anymore.

So they only have it for.

They booked a late-night wedding afterwards, so they got to clear out by eight.

They have to clear out and they have to clean up after themselves as well because it saves money on the run.

I've never watched the induction ceremony because

the run time for something like that is such a uh-uh.

No, five hours is too long

for wrestling.

I mean, I wouldn't, well, for eight, yeah, for AEW.

I could watch it.

Shut up.

But

the induction, like, I don't think it would be that interesting.

Or the ceremony where you find out who win.

No, you don't find out who win.

You find out, we know who wins.

Now they're they're gonna do a ceremony to induct them in november yeah see that's that's so uninteresting it doesn't even have the like the only good thing about one of those shitty award shows which is that you sort of like who's gonna win and then you're waiting for it and it's like oh it was them oh you get to feel a certain way this it doesn't even have that this is just the ceremony part of it and all the bullshit in between it see that is a funny idea to me is that you get everybody if they did it like the academy awards but then you also have to have the bands that win play a song.

So you got to get everybody there, everybody set up, everybody ready to go.

You know, you're putting the back line that's like the size of a baseball field just to make sure all the gear's ready to go.

And then, you know, you've got, you know, the entirety of New Order ready, ready to play Blue Monday.

And they're like, oh, actually, it's Soundgarden.

And, you know, they have to get up and go.

Well, they would know.

They would have it set up.

And Brian has a really good idea about how you could do that as well.

You have to

finally, finally, somebody likes my ideas.

Rotating stage, and they're all set up on each stage, and then it's like you just rotate it around, and then boom, then bad company's like, bad company,

and then it's like, you know, you pop around and it's fucking, hey, yeah, or whatever.

Yeah, this guy goes, I've watched a bunch of ceremonies, and they're very entertaining, but run four-plus hours long with only seven inductees or less.

That's insane.

So this guy goes, What is happening?

I hope there's at least music being played, right?

They jam, but they play a lot of also

like videos about like outcasts is from Atlanta and then guys talking about outcasts.

Yeah.

And then, but there's also like music industry guys that get in too.

So you'll watch a video about some industry guy, some executive or something like that.

Like a builder.

He could in the builder category or whatever.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Or like, yeah, the, the, you know,

you know,

this guy was the number one marketer of 1983.

Yeah.

He had just like, you know, a bunch of talking heads of guys you never heard be like, he was getting units and stores in a way that we could never have imagined him in the summer of 80.

It is stuff like that.

It is just something that you would not be, no human being in the world should be interested in.

And I that's it.

That gives away, again, we've talked about this on other episodes.

That gives away what this is, which is not a referendum on musical quality or even actually fame, but you know, it's an industry award.

It is,

you've been a good player in this industry for a long time you you brought a lot you brought a lot of uh customers to the table and you know everybody likes you and gets along with you so here come come join the club yeah so this guy here you go this you're gonna love this this is my hero his name's axel fire

And he's my favorite poster in the history of classic rock guys.

This whole post is about discussing how there are a significant amount of non-rock bands in the hall.

But metal is a distinctly different genre than rock and roll.

They share instrumentation, but very different tempos, progressions, and lyrical content.

The Scorpions are a hard rock band and not metal.

Hard rock?

Hard rock band, like it's Chinese.

Wait a second.

Do they have a knee?

Do they have this guy?

Do they have

knee issues?

Because the scorpions are a hard rock band and not metal.

You could argue Dio and Early Judas hang out in hard rock, but bands like Pantera and more so Slayer are nowhere close to rock.

Most of the RB artists have more in common with rock and roll than Slayer.

Iron Maiden's kind of odd to me, too, because their iconic gallop doesn't feel like rock, but it's definitely something other hard rock bands did, like Led Zeppelin with Achilles' Last Stand and the Immigrant Song, or Heart with Barracuda.

It's just that they do it with every song.

It's kind of that blurred edge between hard rock and power metal.

It's just hard to look at Little Richard and Iron Maiden Maiden and say they're the same genre.

And I think that's why the hall has been trying to cast a wide umbrella.

Oh, Brian, I do love this guy.

I do love this type of guy, the music classifier, the guy who is just like,

well, they're kind of like they're new way, but they're like, they have obviously influences of like, you know, shoe gaze.

And it's sort of like more of like, I would say it's almost like a dark, like black shoe gaze kind of.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I love saying metal shouldn't be in the rock and roll hall of fame.

Nothing makes me happier than a guy making the argument that metal shouldn't be in.

I agree.

Then that forces other guys to name

that forces other guys to say, well, this should be in because it's white and this should not be in because they're black guys.

This guy goes, but Nicki Minaj, Sharon, Dolly Parton also know scorpions?

What a fucking joke.

And this guy responds and goes, Nicki Minaj is not in a rock and roll Hall of Fame.

Yeah.

Well, I would say Nicki Minaj would be a genuinely shocking addition at this point.

They don't really induct like modern day artists at all.

Yeah.

Well, let's look at a couple Ticketmaster reviews for Bad Company, who did finally get in today.

Yeah, it must have been such a, I wonder if

the sort of like what it means in the modern day to a newer band or like, you know, someone who's a little newer and it's like their first chance or a band like this.

Like, I wonder if Bad Company is like...

I said, when I said their name there, I said it kind of the way they say it.

I was like, I wonder if Bad Company is, anyways, they, I wonder if they care.

I wonder if they're like excited about this, or if they're like, who gives a fuck

about this whole institution?

I suppose they might care, whatever.

It's like winning a wrestling title.

It's like most guys don't give a shit for God's song.

He does the same thing.

It's the same exact thing.

To wrestling.

But it's the same thing.

It's the two of the same thing.

i'm sure i'm sure it feels good for a bunch of a bunch of again industry lifers like the members of bad company yeah to to get to get you know honored in that way especially because it does really just solidify you of like yes we are one of the bands and and i guess everyone comes out and celebrates you and stuff and you have this kind of night all your friends and all the people that you love they're all there and everybody's kind of making a big to-do of it i guess that you know some guy's playing one of your songs and then you get to go on stage with like some modern guy yeah i I will say on that company.

On the other side, I mean, I don't know if we'll get around to fish in general or

on this.

You can count on it.

Okay, well, I'll get around to fish.

I will say that they played the Hollywood Bowl last weekend, and Molly and I, my wife and I, almost went, but it was just too last minute.

We couldn't get our energy together for it.

But we had some friends who went who are longtime Fish fans.

And I believe that that was the night that the

inductees were announced,

and Fish was not among them.

And our Fish friends said that they thought that the back half of that Hollywood Bowl Fish show was one of the rockingest

fish performances that they can remember seeing.

Like, you know, Trey was like really, really shredding, and they were like, just really

trying to show off the chops.

And they felt a little bit, a little bit like it was Fish being like, oh, not a rock and roll Hall of Famer, are we?

We'll show you some Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Yeah, a little less, hey, get, hey, hey, waiter,

a little less noodles with my dish tonight.

Let's go straight to the goods, baby.

It is funny.

They did win the

fan vote by like double what the next one.

Of course they did.

Of course they did.

The only other chance would be like if they were up against like Taylor Swift or like Dave Matthews band.

Like these men that have like their

fan base is obsessed with them, right?

Yeah.

Bad Company still rocks five stars.

By the way, you can't find any bad reviews of Bad Company other than, and this is an insane, this is an insane complaint.

They only played for 90 minutes.

Well, that's, see, that's, and that's a huge, like,

that's like, you love them so much.

That's not even like a that's not even a negative thing, really.

90 minutes is so long.

It's so, it's, it's, it is really, but those old band, like, you know, Bruce Springsteen is what we would talk about.

He would

do showers.

Yeah, they would do hours and hours, though.

Those guys who just have so many albums.

and I don't know, I guess Bad Company doesn't have that

amount of music, probably.

I'm not really sure what they're as a certified music enjoyer and live music enjoyer.

I'm pretty much ready to wrap a concert after about 70 minutes, 75 minutes.

Even if I love the band.

Yeah, I agree.

I haven't been to too many shows that went longer.

The only one I can think of that sticks out that I'm sure I've mentioned before is Brian Jonestown Massacre at like a small club in Vancouver where they were playing for two and a half, three hours, and they were so drunk by the end of it that they were just tuning their guitars by like for like 10, 10 minutes in between songs, just like sloppily, like everyone kind of, it was like really quiet.

Yeah, and people didn't really know what to do.

Like, are they going to play another song?

Can someone talk to them?

They're drinking out of a bottle of Finland.

And that, you know, that adds a level of suspense and, you know, kind of an art, a dramatic arc to the show that I think would keep me more engaged.

They kept us for a while, but around the two hour, 45-minute mark, me and my younger brother and our friends who are like the biggest fans of Brian Jones Am Massacre were like, all right, that's the end for us.

And it was like maybe a tenth of the people who were there to start were there by the end.

Yeah.

I mean, I saw Deftones Real Drunk a few times and I loved it.

But it's only because I'd seen them so many times that like when you see them, well, now when you see them, it's weight, it's insane.

Like that, I just, again, I just saw them at Nationwide Arena and it was packed all the way to the back, and people were singing every fucking song.

So, like, that's way different than when I was, you know,

you kind of got into the before everybody thought.

No, it's just a TikTok thing.

It's like young people are way into them now.

And that was like, when you go see a concert of a band that you saw when you were young, and most of the audience is young, you're like, what the fuck is going on here?

But they only played, I think, for seven.

Yeah, they only played for like 75 minutes or something.

And I thought it was the best arena show I've ever seen.

That's totally fine.

Yeah, if you're rocking for about 75 minutes,

leave me wanting just a little more, but not exhausted.

Perfect.

That's the pocket.

Yeah,

90 minutes for White Stripes did

80 or 90 minutes, never stopped playing, just played the entire time, rocked the whole time.

And it was,

you know, like, did not leave us wanting any more at all.

That was my favorite concert ever.

I saw one kind of like that that I hated.

The Black Keys.

And listen to this at a homecoming show because they're from here.

Yeah.

Okay.

And they played 90 minutes, didn't say a single word.

It was the worst concert I've ever been to in my life.

They did say stuff.

I will say that, like, Jack White talked, but he was always playing.

Like, the one song went into the next song, and then he would be talking as he was like sort of building up and getting into the next song or whatever.

It was an outdoor show at a place called Deer Lake Park.

That, again, I've probably mentioned this too because it was like my, yeah, my favorite concert ever.

But yeah, it was just like an incredible show.

You can find some clips of it.

There's some clips of it on it.

This was outdoor, and I

really like bands like the Sonics and stuff like that.

Obviously, I bought an AI t-shirt for a band that sounds kind of like the Sonics.

Did you know that, Chris?

No,

I'm not familiar with this history.

You're not familiar with the fact that Brian heard an AI-generated song on YouTube, and somehow that convinced him to buy merchandise from this fake band.

So the people that made the AI did not get the money.

So just to be clear, it was somebody ripping off the people who made the AI.

That's who bought Brian's money.

It wasn't even the original fake people that got his money.

It had that sound.

It did have that kind of sound, that black keys kind of thing.

So I was very excited about it.

It did it.

We heard the, it was doo-wop music.

It was.

I like doo-op too.

But I was excited to see this band because the sound.

I like all the stuff they're inspired by.

And they played all the songs that I'd heard.

And I never felt less soul in a show in my entire life, except for maybe System of a Down.

Those are the only two bands I've ever been to where I'm like, oh, and the Mars Volta, this recent Deftones tour where they're just playing their whole first out, their whole new album that nobody knows has been released.

They don't play any of their albums.

That's pretty, that is

pretty big slap in the face to your fans.

Did not play any of them.

However, we cover the album and it's an unreleased is an incredible thing to do.

Well, I mean, I guess that doesn't totally

surprise me about the Black Keys, especially with, you know, they haven't been covering themselves with glory in the last few

years, I guess, since their botched arena tour and playing for that crypto benefit for that,

one of the bad Ohio politics guys.

Oh, Brian.

Let's check in with Michael here real quick before we get back to bad company.

I think it's my favorite style of music, but I go outside its bounds, right?

But I also know when I go outside its bounds, I'm going outside its bounds.

And we all have a right to love whatever kind of music we like.

Hey,

that feels good to know that he's signing off.

Don't worry.

He's going to say

that's off on us liking whatever music we want.

This is a way more diplomatic tone than I'm used to from this guy.

Well,

give him a second.

Yeah.

Okay.

But this one single fan ballot that it took two and a half million votes to tabulate has to go against all those people I just mentioned.

Guess how many of them they are?

Each of them having their own ballot.

Over 1,200 of them.

So now the fans have a say-so

of a one

to twelve hundred ratio

ratio ratio I'm trying to call it to follow him here so he's saying that there are twelve thousand voters in the rock academy or whatever and then like to whatever 2.5 million people voted or something like that so he's like comparing these amounts well he knows he's saying that what those 200 those 2.5 million people vote their vote like whatever they decide on that's only worth one vote like the same as all of the other 1200 votes oh each each one of them gets the same amount but that's fine I think

I think he's saying I mean that if that is true if that is what he's saying and that's true then that is kind of absurd I mean one having it count one towards 1200

it does seem like it's really meaningless to have the family it is but not much of a voice now I also explained that there is one thing that's brought up from the other side who believe that the rock and roll hall of fame is healthy, wealthy, and just ready to thrive for the rest of its existence.

The other side?

Like, it's a political.

Again, all of this, like, all of this,

to me, you know, I get caring about rock music.

I get caring about honors and awards, but just going into this much depth seems like trying to break down the officiating on an episode of Whose Line Is It Anyway?

Yes, it's a really good idea.

Absolutely.

I think Carrie was being very, very on unaffair to Colin when he adjudicated 12,000 points to Ryan in this scene, you know?

Yeah, it's all complete nonsense.

And it's just, yeah, you just have to understand that you're fighting against this thing, yeah, that doesn't really, it's not like this institution.

The points are made up and the score doesn't matter.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Wait till you hear this is so good.

This is classic Michael.

They're wrong, in my opinion, but everybody has an opinion.

And they all say this, and I will acknowledge that this is one good thing about the fan voting process: is that as the fans vote, let's say, and I used an example of Billy Joel.

Billy Joel is a member of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

All right, he's not just, you know, he's not just the president,

but I'm, I'm, you know, I'm not just a member of the rock and roll.

I'm the president, whatever that old commercial was, right?

I love it.

it's the hair club for men i think right is i'm not just a member or i'm not just a president i'm also a member but see he did it backwards and it also doesn't make sense because he's not the president he's just a member again i thought i thought he was getting political there for a second he just kind of forgot what was he just kind of forgot it and then yeah this is this can happen on a live stream sometime we've all been there you think you've got your hooks into a real

real good little riff And then you sort of get into the middle of it and you realize, oh, wait a second.

I don't know what the hell I'm doing right here.

Well, there's more here.

But

what was it?

Last year, he sent out a letter saying, damn it, we've got to get Warren Zivon in.

And he went up on the list.

He didn't win, although there's some good news concerning him this year.

But imagine that kind of power.

So now, if Billy Joel is keeping track, and we have to assume that a lot of these people aren't, they don't give a damn what the fans, what the masses think, they're the Cretons, after all.

We're the royalty.

Let them eat cake.

Tomorrow them this, that, and the other thing.

What?

Why is he doing that?

Yeah, what was what was that was French and you know it.

The ending part of that.

It did sound different.

It sounded different.

The Let Them Eat Cake, I was with him.

He was doing this like aristocratic, maybe friendly.

But then, yeah, the ending part sounded like an entirely different.

It's like Disdado De Auditing, man.

Disdato the other thing.

It sounded like, yeah, like it sounded like

Tom Hanks is a Chet Hanks or whatever there for a second.

I just want to say,

I feel.

Sorry, go ahead.

These guys should get together and form a shadow rock hall.

Yes.

Oh, like their own rock hall.

Yeah, honestly.

Honestly, if any of them had any sense of owner, self-organized, you know,

again, this might be a new technique.

Get a bunch of these guys in like a Discord channel and just start like, put up your, your,

you know, register realrockhall.com.

Yeah, yeah, that's it.

It's R-R-R-H-O-F, the Real Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

That's what it is.

Yeah, yeah.

Well, they're mad because they won't have a building.

You know what I mean?

does it mean?

Get a building.

So here we go.

Bad company still rocks five stars.

And again, you will not see more, less than a four-star.

And again, four stars is for people that wanted more than 90 million.

And this is a review of just them or their from Ticketmaster.

Yeah.

It still shocks me.

And kudos to the guys' team research that there are comments on Ticketmaster.

It's great.

They're my favorite.

This guy goes, took me back to 1974.

Great.

Paul Rogers sounded great.

Simon Kirk was steady and powerful on drums.

Played their hits as well as Rogers Fave.

All right now in Hendrix's Watchtower.

Crowd was great.

Show was great.

Good thing about us boomers is that we know all the words and aren't afraid to sing along.

Yeah, I mean, listen, listen, we can make fun.

I bet that was a fucking hell of a time for them.

You know what I'm saying?

Where is it?

Where was the show?

I'm just trying to get a mental image.

I can't figure out where.

It's in the Lynn Auditorium in Lynn, L-Y-N-N.

I don't.

But it's just, just, just the idea, like, that just sounds like taking them back to 74, like getting that real, like, nostalgic feeling with a bunch of other people who are feeling it as well.

And you're all singing along to these songs and you're all kind of back in that same time again.

I mean, I can, we can laugh, but that sounds, that sounds real nice.

Like, that would be a nice thing at the end of my life if I could go back and, you know, go to a Fleet Fox's concert.

You would love it.

I'll look at other people, and we're all like, oh,

oh.

That's Michinos, I think, one of their shows.

This looks like it's about maybe 40 minutes hour north of Boston.

Wow.

Just to give like, you know, kind of an imagination of the clientele, the audience of the show.

So the audience is racist.

Oh, well, now, now.

That's a joke.

Illinois.

At the Illinois State Fairgrounds, Ellie went and saw it, and it was five stars worth a trip.

Came from the northwest suburbs of Chicago to see this show at the Illinois State Fair, which is a three-hour drive.

Worth every minute.

The fair was wonderful.

Springfield is a world away from Chicago, and it was so nice to not be treated with the big city suburban hustle.

No games, no propaganda, no crowds to fight through.

People were kind and friendly, and although there was a noticeable presence of the Illinois State Patrol, they didn't bother people, and they did not treat everyone like we were in a concentration camp, as is the

whoa.

See, I think there's other ways to sort of get that imagery.

I know guys is a lot about like making fun of these, but I'm just loving these good vibes, bad companies comments.

Just in a reverie, I'm at the Illinois State Fair, bad companies playing.

I've maybe had like one of those like 36-ounce cans of beer and like a

funnel cake.

The cops are there, but man, they're cool too.

They're kind of listening to tunes as well.

There's a sergeant over there who's kind of grooving to fucking bad company self-title.

The sun's going down.

Feel like Mickin' Love's playing.

You know, you're remembering the summer of 74.

This is good.

This is good vibes.

I understand the concerns with all the crazies and shooters running amok.

But it was.

Okay, here we go.

Here's the twist.

But it was such a joy and relief to be returned to a pre-9-11 atmosphere where you weren't constantly treated like a potential terrorist.

Whoa.

This is a review from Ticketmaster.

For what year?

This is, I mean, look,

I didn't quite grok the

twist here as I'm like, as I'm putting myself into this good vibes mentality at the Illinois State Fair.

But of course, you got to get that suburban psychosis in, which, like, now, of course, murder stalks around every corner, but this bad company show gave me a momentary reprieve from the thought of being gunned down in my suburban street.

And it was nice because I was thinking about, God, remember when they hit the towers?

You know?

Before that, man, shit was great.

Yeah.

He goes, the pre-9-11 atmosphere where you weren't constantly treated like a potential terrorist.

The three-hour trip each way was also far preferable to the Chicago traffic and parking.

The show itself was great.

Our seats were good, and we enjoyed the show immensely.

Paul and the band still have it.

Fog Hat was cool, too.

Shout out Fog Hat.

Poor Fog Hat.

Fog Hat reading that review, being like, okay, no, no, no, no.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

There we are at the end.

All right.

Here's one from the Ohio State Fair in 2019, which Brian, you ever been to the Ohio State Fair?

I've been to the State Fair, but I've never been to a concert at it.

Almost went to one last year because they always get wacky fucking bands.

And they had like Stone Temple Pilots playing last year.

And I was like, maybe I'll go see Stone Temple Pilots.

That seems like that'd be good.

I was really into Stone Temple.

I was listening to a lot of Stone Temple Pilots at the time, too.

I think they should be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

And I'm going to fight until they have a lot of people.

Honestly, no shame to Fog Hat.

Probably before Fog Hat.

No, Brian, Brian, you're being unfair.

This is a generational thing.

And I feel like

because you're saying someone like Bad Company shouldn't get in, that's where you should draw the line.

I feel the same way about Stone Temple Pilots.

They're a really good band, but they're just below.

They're not going to be.

They're just not quite at that level of like Nirvana.

Like, I would put a Nirvana in there.

You know, like, you know, Soundgarden, you know, like.

Soundgarden.

Yeah, I would put them in there.

Definitely.

I would put Fleet Foxes in, of course.

You know,

I would put Robin Pechnold in as a solo artist, elite sound guard.

That's one Rosenstalker.

Rosenstalk.

Rosen, Jeff Rosenstalk.

Jeff Rosenstalk.

Everybody loves that guy.

I just started hearing about him like a year and a half ago, and I was like, oh, okay.

I just love a state fair.

Yeah, I do too.

And I think it's like

the best venue to see these

monsters of classic rock is a state fair ground

sunset with

an intergenerational audience of slightly drunk people watching a band you maybe know two songs by, but are have your heart open to being like, hey, maybe Bad Company has some other songs that I might like.

How do you watch it at a state fair?

Like, is it, do you know what I mean?

Like, where is it happening in relation to the fair?

There's just a big venue there.

This year we have Kids Bop Foreigner.

I might go see Foreigner.

Foreigner.

Wait, wait,

I kind of misinterpreted that by thinking that it was like Kids Bop Colon Foreigner.

That was a Kids Bop set of only Foreigner songs.

We got Morris Day and the Time with special guests, Confunction.

Okay.

T-Payne, Quinn, X-C-I-I, and Chelsea Cutler.

It's not as big this year.

Last year, it was like.

I think you should go to that.

Look, I have a big soft spot for Forner.

I think they have a lot of really sick songs.

And Molly, I did not see this set.

We also went to Coachella two weeks ago.

Molly saw the T-Pain set there and said that he kicked ass.

And it was just a delightful time.

So look.

If you've been thinking about checking out the state fair, those are two strong wrecks.

Yeah, last year we had Gabriel Iglesias,

Ice Cube, and Stone Temple Pilots were there.

So I think that was like, I would have loved to have seen Stone Temple, but I don't know why.

I didn't admit to liking them when I was young because people would know, people would be like, oh, what's wrong with this guy?

Well, they probably would have called me gay.

It sounds like Ohio State Fair books good.

They do.

This guy goes

five stars at the Ohio State Fair.

We finally got perfect seats for Bad Company.

They're my wife's favorite, and they did a great show.

Fog had her not very good.

Oh, Fog Hat reading this one.

Like, oh.

Fog hat catching a lot of strays in this pod ep.

Their material/slash songs were cracked when they came out in the early 70s, and they have not weathered the test of time.

Paul Rogers showed them how it's done that night.

Next year at the Ohio State Fair, please consider signing Hart, John Sebastian, Jefferson Starship, or

Styx.

Jefferson Starship is the nuttiest thing to ask for, I think, of all the bands.

They have like two songs.

I can't even believe somebody would want to see that.

Here's some reviews.

That's a very funny request list.

It is.

Here's a review of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony from 2023.

Somebody went to it, Zuccone.

Four stars.

So now we get an idea of what that's like through the eyes of the people who are there.

They should have opened with Missy Elliott or Chaka Khan, something more high-energy than Sheryl Crowe.

It looked like plans suddenly changed about Kate Bush, but with so many star rappers in attendance, a freestyle rap interpretation of Bush's work led by Big Boy would have been much better than St.

Vincent's capable but lackluster performance.

So

this guy

making the rap interpretation of Kate Bush is maybe like just fantasy.

Like,

what if Big Boy came out and Big Boy?

I mean, Big Boy could definitely handle that assignment, I feel like.

And it would be kind of cool because there's a lot of famous rap artists in there.

They're not probably going to be really digging St.

Vincent and all her emo-ass shit.

I would love to see it.

I would love to hear a big boy verse over Hounds of Love or something.

Yeah, I mean, listen, it would obviously be great, but it's

a very specific thing.

This guy really, I will say this.

This guy is like, this guy could be a wrestling fan.

Not to bring up wrestling again, but he's got that kind of vibe of like, I know how the show should run in a very specific way.

Well, some fans of wrestling do know how the show should run and do have a lot of ideas.

There's some people

have great ideas.

But your ideas are only, you don't even have ideas for storylines.

No, you do have ideas for storylines.

Why would I say it on the show?

Brian, can you tell me one idea for a storyline that you be honest?

Because if you actually have any at all, I think you could like, there's got to be one that you're not completely embarrassed to say.

I don't, I have them.

I can't say them on the show.

Why?

Proprietary.

I have big picture ideas.

Okay.

You never know when Tony's going to come calling.

I'm going to help out.

Like, my idea for stories is like, oh, this guy keeps getting beat with a headlock.

And then he finally gets to the other side of and he kicks out of a headlock.

And boom, we got ourselves.

Like, I like moves-based stories.

You know what I mean?

You know me, and you know what I like in wrestling, and it is headlocks.

I love your long headlocks.

You wouldn't, like, because when I hear stories in wrestling, I'm imagining what, like,

a guy gets abducted by aliens in the first rag of the round of the season, and then at the very end, they, like, beam him down into the final match, and then he ends up winning.

Is that how wrestling works?

That's the problem with wrestling.

That's the big problem with wrestling.

The storylines are too too big.

You got to fucking make them smaller.

Smaller storylines.

It has to live inside the ring.

Yes, I keep saying that.

And Chris keeps saying, oh, that's a stupid idea.

But everybody agrees with me.

He likes a small idea.

It's like a guy wrestles with his hands in his pockets.

Okay, he's good.

I'm fine.

That sounds good.

Like, oh,

it's like a Looney Tunes thing of like maybe he accidentally punched a bucket of glue and then his hand is stuck to the turnbuckle the entire round and he still has to like uh it is dumbass looney tunes ass shit that's a good point so anyway i'd love the end of this review is one of my favorite ends of a concert review ever An announcement at the end thanking us for attending and wishing us well would have also been great, or at least turning the lights on sooner.

It was a perplexing, no real end to the event.

I missed the jam session of old.

Really should bring that back.

Oh, I see.

He didn't want like a thank you for coming.

Like, he wasn't expecting that.

He just was, they just ended it and it was just like kind of silent and

the lights were off still and everyone just kind of sat there not knowing if it was going to continue.

I mean, that does sound confusing.

Yeah.

I love the visualization of people sitting there and then looking at the person next to them like, is it over?

Are we going to do a jam sesh?

I will agree.

That is like, if I'm in a big like group situation or ceremony, that is one of my least favorite moods of not knowing

what is next.

You If there's like, you know, if you're like at a wedding or something and there's an insufficient prompting of being like, and now we all go to the next room for the dance and you're just kind of sitting around being like, is this

milling about done?

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's harder with concerts too, because like I said, I went to that Deftone show.

They didn't turn the lights on right away or turn on house music at the end.

So my wife would not leave.

I was like grabbing her, like, come on.

She thinks that there's going to be a lot of money.

She thinks there's an encore.

I was like, there ain't going to be a fucking encore.

I know it.

they played all the songs see I saw

this band the great band that you should go they're on tour right now you should go see if you can cheek face uh and I really appreciated before their last song they were like

we've had a lot of fun tonight this is not a joke we do not do encores when this song is over the show is over thank you all like we really appreciate you coming but that's just not something we do and this is not a joke this is not a bit we're not teasing you and we're gonna come back out when we finish the next song the show is over and you should leave okay here is the last song of the night it would be so funny if they then they came and did an encore though they came on afterwards and was gone and they started playing and then you were out in like in the yeah and you hear them go off again you're like you hear them going off and you're like those motherfuckers yeah but i appreciated the the clarity yeah yeah i agree i agree on that too just sort of letting you know like hey this is people's time and you know they're like they want to get home and so it's just like a nice thing to do.

It was a nightmare.

So, I finally get her to leave, and some guy drops his credit card.

She's chasing him down, trying to give him the credit card.

And we get stuck in line forever getting out because

she made everything slower.

It was made everything slower by doing an incredibly kind

thing for somebody.

Yeah.

Three stars, an exciting night.

It was at times fairly exciting, and the crowd was energetic.

That said, the pacing of the night was an absolute bore at times.

If you're going to have it be an awards ceremony for the music industry with endless hype videos and speeches that go on and only one or two songs per artist, don't invite the public for extremely overpriced seats and have them believe they're going to see a full concert from XYZ artists.

First of all, I just want to say...

If seven bands go in, you are not going to see a full concert.

If you think that, you're an idiot.

You're insane.

That's a seven-hour concert.

That's

ridiculous.

And again, the setup, unless you got the rotating stage.

Yeah.

I mean,

again, with a lot of the commenters on it, there just seems to be a very like fundamental misunderstanding of what this thing is.

Yeah.

Because you need to be going, if you bought tickets to go see the Rock and Roll Hall Fame Inductee Award,

yes, there are going to be big rock musicians there.

Yes, you're going to hear some live music, but you got to understand that the energy is like seeing,

is knowing that you're you're going to like the the greater cleveland dental association like hygienists of the year inductees yeah you know it's like this is we we are honoring people who have done well in this industry in an industry term yeah

well he goes uh uh it's the principles some of the people they inducted aren't even alive anymore i had a hard time explaining that when people asked what i'm going to having seen it for myself steve miller was right so i found out what steve Miller said.

Oh, shit.

Steve Miller, before I end up with a bad one.

Some people call him Maurice.

On your deathbed, Steve Miller was right, man.

He goes, when they told me I was inducted, they said, you have two tickets, one for your wife and one for yourself.

Want another one?

It's $10,000.

Sorry, that's the way it goes.

What about my band?

What about their wives?

So that was the Steve Miller quote.

I mean, that's pretty brutal.

That's ridiculous.

If that's accurate, even close to accurate, that is completely.

that's probably yan yan was probably yan winner would never do that to steve miller fish beats bad company to win the rock and roll hall of fame's vote but it doesn't guarantee an induction this is from r slash rock and the guy goes just a heads up for anyone who's never heard of fish

okay

who's posting on r slash rock yeah i can't where are these where are these people come from come on Do you think this guy brings up fish and then like

in his everyday life, his name name is grateful d fish on on reddit oh my god so this guy might be super old and he was and he used to uh rip around with grateful dead and then when they passed on he moved on to fit that would be my there's a few people like that i'd think they were just kind of young grateful dead uh followers can can i can i tell a

Can I tell a concert story about

Dead and Fish and Co.?

I'm afraid to say we don't.

Brian will have to okay it.

He doesn't let me tell stories, but Brian is a good idea.

No, I don't yeah, you can tell

this is a kind of sweet story.

So Molly and I saw Dead and Co

with John Mayer at The Sphere.

I was there.

It was cool.

I'm not a Fed fan.

This is my first engagement with the Dead at all, like seeing a show.

I might do the Eagles then.

I might do the Eagles.

I had a tremendous time, and I think that the facility is worth it.

But we were sitting next to these two guys,

and I was like talking to them, like, what their their dead story was.

And they said that they followed dead around in the early 90s.

They were like, you know, kind of Gen X guys.

And then after, you know, Jerry died, they kind of moved on to some of the other jam bands and, you know, bummed around in the scene until like Fish and

some of those bands until the early 2000s.

And then they hadn't been to a jam show in 20 years.

And this is their first time.

Later in the intermission, I was at the concession stand and talking to these two women who had a very similar story, Dead in the Early 90s, and then some other Jam bands in the late 90s and hadn't been to a show in 20 years.

And as I was talking to them, I saw the two guys that I was sitting next to and waved, and they said, hey to me, and then recognized the two ladies that I was talking to from the jam band scene in like the Northeast in the early 2000s and came over and started talking to them in front of me and being like, we haven't seen each other for 25 years, but we had remember each other from shows,

you know, that long ago.

Yeah.

And

I was just shocked and delighted by that random.

I want to make sure I can find that to be a nice story.

You guys weren't tarping or anything.

Yes, they were.

You're not, they're not tarp.

You guys, did you guys take a tarp with you?

No, I mean, look, it's the sphere, so we bought it.

We had seats.

Oh, that's right.

But so then I have a question as well.

This conversation that was happening, Brian, and I think you know where I'm going with this, Brian.

This conversation that was happening during, was this happening during a musical?

No, this was during the intermission.

This was during a sanctioned.

God, what is it?

Not jawing.

What do they call it?

Gumming?

Oh, yeah.

Chompers.

Chompers.

Chompers.

Yeah.

So that's what I was just making sure.

We were not chomping.

We were not terping.

This was in a sanctioned socializing time during the show.

Then, guess what?

It's one of the sweetest stories I've ever heard.

Thank you.

Thank you.

So it's funny.

It's funny, too, because it is like

this guy saying, if you've never heard of fish,

I don't think he's ever met anybody in his life that's never heard of fish.

Like, I just can't imagine, but he's so in the circle because, Chris, you're right about that.

You would be amazed at how, like, I'm in a group on Facebook called Fish Call Or.

And it's where fans call each other out for stuff.

Yeah.

And they, like, know each other.

And they'll be like, oh, you know, I'm sick of Jennifer, you know, taking up so much space at the rail.

And then Jennifer Jennifer pops on.

Like, they're literally following around these bands and going to the same concert.

So there's like these groups of people.

They're tailgating.

And so it would make sense.

It's kind of a traveling community.

Yeah, my buddy, my old drug dealer was like, thought 2012 was going to happen.

The end of the world was going to happen in 2012.

And he was like, I'm going to fucking start to live my life.

So he followed Bass Nectar around.

And he followed him around for like a whole year.

And then they hired him to do their lights.

To my knowledge, he never did lights in his life either.

So

I've seen bass nectar at a music festival and encountered some of these bass nectar people who are like, yeah, we, our life is following bass nectar around.

And you know what?

I wonder if they still are doing that.

I mean,

if this is from the R slash rock subreddit, I just logged on to get the vibe of it.

And the fifth top post right now is

just the video of the police every breath you take, which I guess should give you the tone of the page, which is like, rock and roll.

I'm just getting into it.

The police, have you heard of this?

Have you guys heard of this band?

I've got a fresh sound I think

people might be interested in.

Well, he goes, There's literally a reason.

He goes, You aren't, but aren't familiar with any of their songs.

There's literally a reason for that.

And in the 90s, Fish watched their contemporaries, like Blues Traveler and Spin Doctors, have some limited success, but then fell off.

So they decided since they already had a dedicated fan base, that they wouldn't try to have any radio hits.

And unlike these other two bands who are literally on the fair circuit fish are still selling out arenas as well as stadium so this guy responds and goes i saw them playing a vacuum cleaner for crying out loud give me a break

wait what wait what

they do play a vacuum cleaner on stage yeah but i mean you can't you can't you can't whatever it is that they've cultivated whether or not it's just hey we picked up this uh community of grateful dead fans and like played a similar style of music or whatever but like, yeah, they have managed to cultivate this fan base.

Yeah, they're playing shows at the sphere and doing these incredible, you know, like they're Madison Square Cardinals.

Yeah, they do like the biggest venues, they get the biggest crowds out.

The people who are like obsessed with them, and I, we've talked about it, we did Jamman guys, and that's why we know all about jumping and tarpon, chomping and tarpon, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Um, and but like, and I don't understand it, it doesn't resonate with me at all, like um, that type of shit, but people are obsessed with it like in no other way.

You know, other musicians who are popular don't have people dedicating their life to it, right?

I think that that's been one of the most interesting stories of rock music in the last decade or so is kind of the ascendancy of the jam band model into the

echelon of like the most respected sphere of rock bands and kind of the adoption of that bottle model of and bands like Phish that were

in the, in the like 20, in the 2000s would be a punchline of a joke that dirty, classless hippies would like and are now very much like, no, they're a beloved institution in the rock and roll community that have

done this miracle of maintaining this long-term fan base.

And then you have all these other bands coming up in their model, bands like King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard, who are one of the hottest, biggest, youngest bands out there who are really cultivating this same thing of like, we're never going to have a radio hit, but we are going to have this like highly dedicated, completely engaged fan base that's going to see.

I don't know.

I find that's that very interesting, that that is kind of one of the most has become one of the most proven successful modes of rock music now.

And probably like that would be my pitch for inducting fish right now into the rock and roll hall fan.

Not the, I mean, the fan vote, the outsize fan vote is the proof of that, but kind of like, no, they were right.

They did everything right over their career, and they have proven a model for other bands going on.

Like, that is the industry side of it.

I don't know.

That's my little, like,

rock industry side of the business.

You could end it off with an okay if you wanted to turn it into a ran.

Here we go.

Yeah, vote.

Yeah, I think you are so right about that, that, yeah, that fish.

is you know they changed the whole model because of that you couldn't sell albums anymore and and it became completely different.

And they cracked the code on that kind of or internal.

Well, they were able to do it long enough, long enough consistency enough and with like enough relative like class and professionalism that it is now like oh no, they are elder statesmen.

But I still do think that every single person who is following them around is a dirty

yeah of course.

Let's check in with Michael here.

I mean, they're all interconnected

and they a lot of them are wishful thinking.

Well, this this is the way i think planet earth should be wait wait wait well brian can you back

he's talking about politics

he's doing a lot of he's doing a lot of voice work today i don't know that i've heard him do this kind of voice work before brian

a lot of people from the hollywood crowd the music crowd the music business i mean they're all interconnected

And

a lot of them are wishful thinking.

This is the way I think planet Earth should be.

Like,

this is what I want.

Everybody holds hands, kumbaya, and it's all rock and roll to me.

Well, I'm sorry.

I'm a musician.

There are elements to rock and roll.

Don't watch.

Oh, brother, we heard your music.

Your music's not good, Michael.

You should be good.

You're a musician like I'm a basketball player, brother.

Like, I'm a radio host.

Yes.

No, not even.

Brian, you're much closer to being a radio host than he is to being a musician.

There's more.

I fit that.

So here we are with the final ballot.

And the fans didn't have much to say.

Now, I want to go over to who actually made it.

And I got to be honest with you, folks, this is not

the worst list

that I've ever seen.

Okay.

And when I think about it, it's not the worst list they've ever come up with, especially in the last 10 years.

I'm going to go ahead and read.

Now, you remember, first of all, we have Fish, Bad Company, Billy Idol, Cindy Lauper, Joe Carker, Soundgarden, Chubby Checker, the new seven, because those aren't the seven that made it.

And I kind of called that last night, didn't I?

You did.

All right.

Actually, I was trying to call it and saying, you know what, there's even, and I was scared that this might happen.

You were scared?

Wait, wait, wait.

Le Mariah Carey could still get into the rock and roll hall of fame

one of the group

biggest recording artists of the last 30 years now

the new absolute

blumhouse the new blumhouse horror thriller

oh my god i love the idea of him like being up at night sweating

up in the middle of the night and mariah carey was in the fucking rock and roll hall of fame i'm freaked out now honey honey honey wake up wake up you're screaming and sweating again you're screaming about mariah carey again

yeah yeah yeah cheers

of fame even though she didn't do well enough to get on to uh the highlighted section of the fans votes and how i've explained how the fan votes go what that ballot's worth

would indicate and tell you yeah there was a reason for me to be nervous wasn't there yep yeah so she didn't make it all right thank god but others in that lower echelon did.

Two others.

All right.

So bad company made it.

All right.

And I also did a video where Simon Kirk claimed to talk to an insider.

Wait, talk to a?

He was talking to us.

Talk to Kirk was on top of it.

He claimed to talk to an insider.

Okay, great.

It took me a second on that.

I'm going to talk to you.

On Friday, I put that video out on Saturday, and he said Monday it would be, but it was announced last night.

And he said that he had been assured that they were going to get in so i kind of broke that story a little early oh yeah congrats on doing some journalism michael

oh the pause he has right now is insane um yeah he he's he broke that story he loves to break the story of course you know who doesn't who yeah look if you if you're doing content and you have an honest to god scoop i mean that's one of the best feelings in the world here's a quick uh uh here's a quick one from r slash fish don't talk about fish in the rock and roll hall of fame uh feel free publicity, like it or not, to hype when they quote allow it.

If you feel strongly about it, consider how they profit off your strong feeling.

Carrying an image in your mind, we celebrate this band as its fans each time they come around.

If you keep talking about it, you're just giving the same message.

I allow this to create control.

controversy toward myself.

So just stop talking.

This is like the Westboro Baptist Church argument.

I also like that there's a Zen energy there of being like,

I appreciate this.

If you're into fish, what do you care?

Your love of fish is the thing that validates fish, not somebody else's.

The more energy you put into this outside institution, man,

the more you're letting them pollute the purity of your passion for fish.

Brother, you seem like you're having kind of a harsh time right now.

Why don't you listen to 1997 Oakland fucking

check in here?

We've got better lists these last two years.

And last year wasn't great,

a great list, but even I had to admit it was better than it had been in the past.

Damn, they got my

damn, right?

So that's where it all goes.

You wonder why these people and how they get in.

First of all, there's a mantra that exists.

And ever since John Sykes has taken over, he's made sure that that mantra gets an updated edition every year.

And pretty soon he'll say, you know, if you shit in your pants when you were two years old, you're a rocker.

Oh, shit.

Now, he's, yeah, the point he's making is slippery slope.

He's talking about the slippery slope theory, where he's just like, if you're just going to let somebody who did RB music in, what's next?

People are going to marry their dogs?

You know, like,

I mean thank you for explaining that because i was not following where you

that train of thought hitting you with the heavy duty uh logic on heavy duty logic on yeah

that's where they're going and it is this

inclusion thing now i'm all right with people being inclusive in life okay but you don't take it to the point that you can't identify well that's a square and that's a circle no uh oh no i wish the circle to be a rectangle Well, you can wish it all you want and don't change it.

Oh, shit.

Right?

And there are elements to rock that I've come to identify, and hip-hop and rap are

a bad form of music.

That's not what I'm saying.

I'm saying it ain't rock and roll.

Here we go.

Okay.

Now, there was also,

let me see if I can find it.

This article I found.

And it's interesting.

I'm only going to read a little bit of it to you, but this ought to give you an idea.

So who's reporting on this?

Well, I found an article.

Let's see.

This one's just saying, oh, USA Today

from a Melissa

Rugieric.

Oh, wait, Melissa.

He said Melissa.

Melissa.

From a Melissa.

Like, we all know how a Melissa, this is somebody who is very clearly not an older man with gray hair.

He goes nuts on her.

And notice how she starts her article.

The boys' club

that comprises this year's rock and roll hall of fame class also contains a female solo musician who has always been a striking presence, Cindy Lauper.

You guys, he's bouncing around doing little

the contempt radiating off of his.

He's doing a good job

physicalizing his own contempt yeah well he's got he's got a little he's doing character work that i've never seen from him before and i'm pretty sure we got to watch more of his streams he could be a sketch he could do sketch i he could do sketch comedy he could improve

he could be like you know how there was the guys like oh you know the the i want a car that the steering wheel doesn't fly off he could be on i think you should leave and be the honestly

with his look

With with the right Tim Robinson training, I do think that he could probably be in, like, with the right direction from Tim Robinson, I do think he could be in, I think you should leave.

He could hit it.

With the exception of Outcast,

she's the one I would say doesn't quite fit, but boy.

See, this is a victory to her as she's reporting.

We can't tell that Melissa here, the reporter, the writer, doesn't have an agenda herself.

I mean, look at how she started that whole thing up.

And that's part of the problem with the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

There is a lot of political political nonsense in the air.

That's kind of funny.

The biggest problem is the politics involved in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

And it's, but like, you, you are like, he's making it into politics.

He's the type of guy who really is.

Like, he's like nitpicking all of this stuff and turning it into this like huge to-do.

Like, guys like him.

Well, Chris, there's another band that's not in that I thought we would take a look at.

This guy says, Tool not being inducted is insane.

Have they even been nominated?

No.

I don't think so.

Yeah, that seems like a big band.

They're one of those bands.

Now, I'm going to read a case for Tool here.

They shouldn't get in.

They're not.

Tool

is not...

A rock and roll Hall of Fame band.

They're a just under the line band.

And listen,

listeners like Tool.

They get really mad at us when we make this.

They're not under the line.

That's outrageous.

I will say this.

To me, they're not rock at rock and roll because to me, they are complex mathematical equations

that I have to decipher with my ears.

And of course, the fucking plebes at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame with their simple ears aren't able to really fully understand it.

But that's because it's not rock and roll music.

It's not any kind of music.

It's its own thing entirely.

I'm a huge Tool fan since 1999, and I find the fact that they haven't even been nominated truly bizarre.

But then again, the hall largely has routinely ignored many heavy metal acts.

Tool's a multi-platinum-selling band with a number of big-hit rock songs that have been selling out large arenas for 25 years, and they've headlined so many massive music festivals.

They've achieved their level of fandom

and acclaim despite doing some deeply artistic and unconventional decisions, like not being on any streaming services or selling any of their music digitally until 2019.

Taking a very long time time between releasing albums, not featuring any of the band members on screen visually at concerts, and insisting upon art accompanying the music solely.

Wait.

Having a hard stance against photos or videos of their concert.

They don't really license their music any online, and they have very long songs generally.

Just

the idea that it's some like incredible artistic choice to not make albums very often.

It's like your job.

Like, you're like, oh, I'm going to take a big break from it.

Like, yeah, that's a choice that a lot of people make all the time.

Yeah,

I sense Tool fans are going to be pretty perpetually disappointed here.

Maybe sometime in the 2030s, we might see Tool start hitting that list.

Chris, I agree.

Listen, they're going to get in because every band gets in.

Well, the biggest.

The issue, though, is that we're getting stupider.

It's idiocracy every day out there.

And that's the issue.

That's what I worry about.

You need an educated voting public to get the toolknob.

I think

they would have to have gotten inducted in the 1700s where people were the smartest.

It's progressively dumber since then.

Like, they've really been so utterly against the grain compared to how most of their peers operate their bands to do commercial things, and yet they can still sell out 20,000 capacity arenas pretty much anywhere they want.

And they've been that way while having a 30-plus-year career as a band that has been free of breakups, hiatuses,

or really any controversy.

What do they think the time in between albums is other than a hiatus?

It's not a hiatus.

It's just

it's known as an artistic decision.

They've also released so little music in that time that it's kind of all pretty good.

There's no bad two albums.

Yeah, that's what we're looking for in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is people who released music that's like, did it pretty good?

Yeah.

Yeah,

you want to keep that floor high rather than the ceiling high.

It's like, oh, shit, you know, when you hear something, you're like, oh, this is pretty good.

That should go in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

But the consistency.

Yeah.

The consistency.

And the time signatures.

Of course.

That's why they're not getting in is because of the time signatures.

Honestly, they probably

would tell them to show up for the ceremony at 8 o'clock.

They'd show up at 11.30 because they've got different time signatures.

They've also

the real test.

I like that one.

I like that one.

So to do all that and achieve huge sales is a real testament to those who appreciate Tools music.

It's really fucking good music.

They're absolutely deserving of being admitted.

They're such a unique musical act, not just amongst metal or rock, but within the entire history of the modern music industry.

This guy replies with a solution.

This is exactly why I feel rock needs its own Hall of Fame and separate award show.

I'm sick of other genres trying to hijack niches for themselves when there are legitimate bands out there that deserve recognition.

So,

yeah, no, get in line, buddy.

I got 150 YouTube channels that you can start watching.

Yeah, that's oh, yeah.

Royce, by the way, for people that don't know Royce, Royce streamed at the same time as Michael on this one, so we don't know.

We just had to turn our hats around to go Royce mode.

Have I encountered Royce on one of these streams yet?

I think you have.

Royce is a guy we like.

He wears his hat back, he wears a hurly hat backwards.

He's older.

That's how you know he's cool.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He's probably like 60, and Michael abuses him.

Well, Michael,

yeah, he seems like Michael seems like his little, you know, like they're like a duel or whatever, a duo or whatever.

And he's like, Michael's a little guy who's like, hey, you fucking idiot, get over here.

You know, he's like, oh, I'm sorry, boss.

You know, like,

but yeah, we, we love him.

And that clip that brian sent to me um that of him of of michael realizing that royce went live at the same time as him is so fucking good man you don't have it you don't have that okay okay so they're they're not like enemy streamers it's not like they're from ethan klein hasan situation

they're associates they're from michael is the boss yeah yeah although he thinks himself as the boss they they have they each have a but he'll come on his stream a lot they'll go on like each other's streams and just talk.

They're both rock and roll enthusiasts, but you can tell.

Michael said, I wonder.

I guess you didn't realize I was streaming at this time.

Okay, here we go.

I got it.

Here we go.

You got to go all the way back to the beginning.

It's only 26.

It's only 20.

And it's his wife tells him in the middle of it.

It's great.

All right.

Filled with buzzwords.

Royce is going live in 30 minutes.

Divining said.

What's that?

Royce is going live in 30 minutes.

No, I didn't know Royce was streaming tonight.

I didn't get any hands up on that.

Well, good luck with that, Royce.

Maybe he doesn't know I'm streaming.

I don't know what's up with that.

So I'll

and do you know what I feel like?

Because there's a lot of cast of characters, by the way, on these streams that they have.

He's got a million guys.

He's got a million different guys that are coming on.

There's Canadian Hitler, there's Novus Nick.

Novus Nick, to me, is my favorite character.

Everybody knows he's like this weird kind of old guy who,

yeah, he's looks really,

he has a really weird setup and a framing situation, but I've decided that he's like the arch nemesis of he's always trying to bring down Nolan.

And I feel like he could be behind this, you know, where he's just like, he went to Royce and he's like, you should go live to talk about, you know, like he possibly,

Chris, they also have a young guy now.

Okay.

He's like in his 20s.

It's insane that he's hanging out with these guys.

So anyway,

this is a fascinating development here because I feel like in the past two years when we've talked about Michael, he's been, I've known him as a YouTuber creating videos put online.

Knowing that there is a world of older male rock and roll streamer

drama,

that is a delightful revelation to me.

It's yeah, they talk about, they just will get on a call for an hour and a half and just like talk about like, you see, these Jeffrey Paul album is the best or whatever.

Or like a Led Zeppelin movie came out recently in the theater.

They did that IMAX thing and they'll do a whole thing.

I saw that movie.

It was pretty good.

It was nice to see the IMAX, Led Zeppelin live footage.

They had a lot of rare stuff there and hearing it a booming

theater sound system.

The funny part though is it's like

it's just the forming of Led Zeppelin is the narrative of the movie.

And the Led Zeppelin origin story is one of the most boring rock and roll origin stories ever, which is like these three guys who were successful studio musicians decided to form a band when they were 19, and within six months, it was the biggest band in the world.

And that's the end of the movie.

Everything after that, the stuff that they did in the 70s, you don't have to know about.

Yeah, that's that's yeah, they were just like they were they already had they were already very well-respected musicians before, but they, but sorry, it's a narrative film.

It's not like a

documentary.

Oh, it is a documentary.

Oh, my God.

I got to go see it.

It's a movie movie.

I hate documentaries.

I hate them.

They trick you.

I hate, especially if it tricks you and it's like, hey, there's this movie coming out.

It has this cool kind of like title and stuff.

And then it's a fucking documentary.

No thanks.

Only an idiot would say that.

So this guy goes,

somebody mentions that it's for the Rock and Roll Hall Famous for something that's culturally relevant.

So this guy has a problem with that.

He goes, goes, What is culturally relevant musically?

WAP?

Cruel Summer?

Mumble Rap?

LOL.

TikTok clips?

LOL.

If that's culture, I'm going to go find a cave and live out my days listening to bats making guano.

Okay.

Do that then.

Everybody will be better off for it.

You go into your cave and we'll all continue to fucking live life and experience new things.

But honestly.

Make some field recordings, release it on a private label.

See what you can make off of it.

What ass pussy?

Excuse me?

What ass pussy?

What are we talking about here?

Yeah,

that's what's culturally relevant.

Well, yeah, it is.

This new generation's, quote, culture is forgotten by the time they have lunch.

And that's not to say it isn't their culture.

I mean, that is a pretty sick bird.

That one kind of hit us hard, to be honest.

For sure.

I mean,

and I'm even 40 years old, and that's true for me.

So I think that's hitting a lot of people because I think that thing is getting worse for younger people.

This guy goes, how are the cramps not inducted yet?

And then a guy helps him out and says, please, let's not take the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame seriously in any way whatsoever.

And a guy replies and goes, agreed.

It's nothing more than a giant popularity contest now.

That's the new thing.

Now

again,

it used to be expert, like they were talking about, it's like an expert opinion on the future.

It's like monster trucks, Chris.

It's like monster trucks.

And I'll explain why it's like monster trucks.

The audience shouldn't be voting on who wins the monster trucks because it's always going to be Gravedigger every time.

Back in the day, they would have three judges that knew what they were talking about, then three audience judges.

And it would be like kind of a mixture of who won

who had the best run.

They're not just going to give it to Gravedigger on name recognition.

And Gravedigger sucks.

Gravedigger doesn't suck.

Gravedigger's hands down the best.

And he's fucking whatever.

Bigfoot sucks.

That's shit compared to Gravedigger.

Sorry.

So may

we've got that it can't just be a popularity contest, even though it's the Hall of Fame, it can't just be a popularity contest because we cannot trust the populace with making the important value judgments of who the best rock band is.

But we can't leave it up to an industry vote because that's biased.

Well, they're all younger.

They're going to be like, they're all puppets.

They're going to be affected by politics and optics and stuff like that.

So I think what we really do need to do is assemble a panel of people that have never engaged in rock music at all.

Perhaps never listened to a rock and roll song.

Perhaps don't even really like music.

And then once we whittle it down to maybe the 50 proposed bands a year, we put it in front of these music agnostics and make them make a decision because then we would have a completely unbiased vote.

That's a very, very good idea.

I feel like they have a very similar

michael nolan has a very similar idea to you and that is to have a panel but i think his panel is him and his five friends who he believes should do it well here's the last michael clip here we want to hear him listing bands so here we go okay great choices they made this year that i don't have a whole lot of trouble with now having said that I wouldn't have put the white stripes in.

I wouldn't have even nominated them yet.

I think they could have waited.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

What does that mean?

Why would they wait?

If you think they're good enough, why would they wait it?

What does that mean?

Also, especially because it's the white stripes and not.

See, now I'm getting sucked into the semantics.

Especially because it's the white stripes and not Jack White.

The white stripes are done from a project.

Yeah, and they have been for a long time.

I think we have enough time to judge the outputs of a band that is never going to record a new album.

I love the white stripes.

I think they should be in there.

I think that you're using that.

I think that they have like an incredible, you know, like Seven Nation Army is like an iconic song.

It has become one of the biggest rock songs of, again, of the 21st century.

By virtue of sports animals.

It's hilarious, Second Life as a global sports anthem.

Yeah, totally.

So, I mean, I think they definitely deserve it.

And I would say myself, because they're one of my favorite bands growing up, I would love, I think they definitely deserved it.

But it's funny that his argument is just that they're not old enough.

That's what it is.

Get in line.

Get in line, white stripes.

Get in line behind all of the guys who look like me and have long hair and it's graying, okay?

Take a ticket and get back there behind Fog Hat.

We'll call your number

when it's your turn.

Well, put Outcast in.

Salt and Peppa can kiss my aspirin bottle.

Goodbye.

Soundgarden, I think, was timely and should have been there.

Cindy Lauper, like I said, I'm okay with.

Joe Cocker should have been there decades ago.

Chubby Checker should have been there decades ago.

I didn't know the man was still alive, and he's evidently fit to be tired.

And I'm so glad that he's still around to at least see his name.

I think somebody said he's 88 years old.

See his name, you know, rectified in rock and roll.

The twist was one of the biggest

dance crazes, and you can't have rock and roll without Chubby Checker.

And of course, the number one, the best choice of the evening evening was bad company.

All right.

That is

a band that wasn't going to be getting in.

I guess mainly because

Paul Rogers had left a bad taste in somebody's mouth.

I don't think

it was when he turned down Armet Erdogan.

Okay, you got the guy's name right.

But maybe

the scuttlebutt got around and I can imagine Jan Winter taking a dislike to everything.

They'll get in the day Hellfree's over.

You know, the same thing that he said about,

what was it,

Foreigner, right?

Foreigner got in as well, right?

Woo, yeah.

That's how you know Jan Winner's been usurped.

Yeah,

he no longer has his influence.

And that's because in their mind, they talk a lot about like these conspiracies of like, yeah, and Winner's like, yeah, he's gone, but it's like all his puppets that he's sort of put in place there.

It's like how people talk about, like, I saw the same line of thought after Pope Francis died of being like, yeah, he died, but he's, you know, he's stacked the College of Cardinals with his own men, and he's going to be dominating the conclave from beyond the grave.

It's, it's, they're very funny to be talking about the rock and roll hall fame in the same terms.

Michael Nolan would say that those are very similar things,

except for the fact that

one of them is important.

Yes, exactly.

And finally, the last Nolan clip here, and then we'll get out of here, is he's talking about,

I gotta look at the thing again.

132.

132.

All right, here we go.

This is his last.

He's got a real bone to pick with a writer.

All right, because we have a couple of pop-ups here.

This isn't going to go away.

All right.

This idea to stretch this and pull this in all different directions.

Okay.

We already have, I just looked up one writer and I wasn't looking for a female writer.

I wasn't looking for a left-wing writer or a right-wing writer.

I just typed up what I was looking for.

And hers was the first

article that I found, USA Today,

that covered the basics.

And as soon as I started reading, I go, wait a minute,

who is this person?

I was going to look up the name of the reporter or the writer just to do some research on him.

I didn't even need to.

You know, it was like, okay, female writer talking about female plights and problems.

Like, we don't already have a man.

This guy is really, really wretched, dude.

He really is like, he can't even hide his contempt and hatred for women.

Yeah, he hates women.

yeah.

He's got a enough of that bullshit in the rock and roll hall of fame.

They're criticizing that, what did they call it, the boys' club?

They're criticizing that it was a cock fest.

I get that line in.

That's a great vital line.

It's a cock fest.

They're criticizing it's a cock fest.

And listen, I'm sure that it is.

I'm sure that it is.

It is a cockfest.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, that is Classic Rock Guys 3.

Chris, I want to thank you

for doing it again.

Hey, no problem.

Man, I don't mind coming over.

Thank you, porno, Chris.

I'm talking to Chris Wade.

Thank you.

This is always a pleasure.

If it wasn't for this, I would be completely disengaged with whatever is going on in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

So it is nice to check in a little bit.

I will be honest.

At this point, I am getting a little peeved of New Order, Joy Division, and Devo getting nominated every year and never getting in.

But I feel like the time is coming.

The time's coming for all of you.

And you know what?

I don't know.

And I want to be a good idea.

It's all good.

It's all

peace and love and rock and roll, baby.

I love celebrating the great artists of our recording industry.

And I'll say this.

It is hard to do.

It is the hardest thing in the world to do, but you just got to be like, I don't care who gets in that fucking thing, which is hard because somebody will be like, oh, this band you like's not.

Like when corn gets in, which they will get in.

Again, that seems like a 2030s entry for me.

They're never going to get

corn into the rock and roll.

I can't wait till corn gets into the rock.

When corn gets into the rock and roll hall of fame, I will quit the podcast and turn into a YouTuber like Michael Nola.

We'll see you all next week.

Goodbye.

Bye.

Chris, thank you for doing that.

I love it.

I appreciate it.

Yes.

Once they're done loading, yours will probably.

Yeah, you're good.

We're good.

We'll talk to you later, ma'am.

Yeah.