Guys: Episode 117 -Monster Truck Guys with Tim Faust

Welcome to guys, the podcast about guys.

I am Brian.

Sunday, Sunday, Sunday.

It's Monster Trucks.

I don't know, but Chris, we got Chris here.

Hey,

Monster truck or something.

Yeah, maybe I was thinking you could go like

Tuesday, Tuesday, Tuesday, or whatever, because that's when the show is coming up.

Oh, no, and by the way, did I say Sunday or Monday?

You said Sunday.

Good.

Thank God.

I thought I said Monday.

Monday, Monday, Monday.

So this week we are, we, because I just went and did it.

I did.

I went to monster trucks this week and it was fresh in my mind.

And I had a guest in mind for this week.

And I was like, you know what?

We're going to talk monster trucks.

We have Tim Faust.

Hi, Tim.

Hi, everybody.

Thanks for having me.

I love monster trucks.

I'm looking forward to this.

I recently went, guys, and I'm going to tell you one thing.

Okay.

Not as good as you think it's going to be.

Oh, no.

That's the worst part.

It's one of those things like baseball.

It's best watched on TV, in my opinion.

Because once you're there, it's...

I mean, it's cool, but it's the exact same thing for like three and a half hours.

And you got to.

There's no cars.

But you know what?

There's no

that this totally makes sense to me because I have made, I've brought up my, the person that I know who loves monster trucks the most is my nephew, who's four years old.

And that does make sense because he loves to do the same thing over and over again or watch the same thing over and over again for three hours.

That's his dream.

So it makes sense that he loves monster trucks.

We're going to talk a little bit about a lot about Monster Jam and the issues with Monster Jam because there's a rift in the world that people don't talk about.

There are indie guys.

Okay,

so there are independent guys that do independent shows.

Then, those are the ones with Truckzilla and stuff, and where they crush cars.

That's the independent shows.

Then there is Hot Wheels Monster Truck.

Now, that is not a contest.

That is an exhibition.

They do crush cars and they do have some version of a Truckzilla.

And then there's Monster Jam, which is apparently a real sport.

I don't believe in it, but it's apparently a real sport.

And I went to Monster Jam and what it was was, it was a mound of dirt in the middle of an arena.

And then the cars just kind of drive around the dirt.

They don't crush any car.

They don't crush anything.

Yeah, Monster Jam is all stunts, whereas Hot Wheels is like kind of like pro wrestling in that it's the exact same thing happens every day.

It's kind of scripted, which I think is great.

Like I think more things should be like wrestling, which is to say very stupid.

I think it's fun to watch a dumb thing happen that's explosive, you know, for children.

Monster Jam is one of those things where it's happened to me twice.

I'll be in a bar, it's happened once on a date, and once during like a job interview, and right behind the person I'm talking to, Monster Jam is on TV.

And it makes me incapable of having a conversation because all I want to do is just watch the trucks go fast.

I think the issue with me for Monster Jam was like it's three competitions.

Now, we're going to read a lot about how these are scored, which makes me, it's bullshit, right?

These are not judged by judges.

These are judged by audience vote, which of course Gravedigger is going to win every time.

So that's the one that Gravedigger is in is the Monster Jam.

Yeah.

Okay, so he, you're telling me Gravedigger never crushes cars?

Is that what you're sitting here telling me?

No car crushing at all at Monster Jam since like 2018 or something.

Okay, because I was going to say, I swear to God, I've seen gravedigger crush cars, but

I watched the old one.

Like, I used to, I used to go when I was a kid, obviously, which would have been a long, long time ago.

And I, and they were definitely crushing cars then.

So, what, what was the situation back then?

Well, they're afraid to crush cars now.

They say it's a safety issue.

It's kind of woke.

Woke, yeah.

It's definitely woke because they're like, oh, they're all plastic now.

So the plastic flies into the stands.

Who cares?

Who cares?

I don't care.

Yeah.

What is the piece of plastic going to hurt me?

Maybe.

I did get to crush a car in Vegas.

They've got this thing where you can, you know, you can pay money and drive a steam shovel and crush a car.

And I got married in Vegas in January.

And so one of my friends,

thank you.

It was, it was a hoot.

We got paper married last year and we had a wedding this year.

But one of my friends for like my, you know,

after-the-fact bachelor party rounded us up and took us to the desert.

And I got to go into steam shovel and just punch the car with a steam shovel and pick it up and drop it.

And it fucking rocked.

That was exactly as fun fun as i thought it was going to be for like the seven and a half minutes that i did it

i've always wanted to do it it's really fun it's uh it's it's a little it's too expensive for what it is but it's really fun to push a lever and spin around and smash a car it rocks it was uh certainly worth uh the the time could you have done it for longer do you feel like you mentioned like the seven and a half minutes it was fun for do you feel like it's something that you could have done all day long i did

I did it at half and half with a friend, so we grounded to 15 total.

I definitely could have done it for an hour.

I think after that,

I would have lost some appeal, but it did feel kind of like Street Fighter, where you know, Ken kicks the car before it explodes.

I did get that like crunchy feeling in my hands, it was nice.

This sounds like because you said an hour.

I'll just say this: I don't know if I've ever talked about on the show, but I went to Gatlinburg, Tennessee, and uh, we were like, We should do the

ATV tour,

which I expected to be like, hey, you get to drive an ATV, you know what I mean?

Like, you get to go, you maybe sometimes you get to open it up.

I didn't think you get to jump, but I thought maybe you went to an open field and you could go fast.

So, you know what I mean?

So, you, yeah, I don't, I wouldn't think that just because of

my ability and stuff like that, then I wouldn't think, like, oh, yeah, let's let's let these uh random tourists really open it up on these ATVs.

You weren't wearing any sort of I wore a helmet.

Oh, you did.

Yeah, they made me good.

I wouldn't have, but they made me.

Yeah, yeah.

I would imagine again for the liability stuff.

But yet, it, yeah, listen, that would be, that's what I would hope for if I was renting an ATV for ATV tour.

But yeah, it was, you were driving them real slow.

Oh, real slow on a path.

You didn't even get to like go anywhere that they, and in a line.

And then they're like, hey, we know that you're going to try to slow way down so the pack gets away from you and then speed up to catch up.

Don't do that.

So like there's like, yeah, there's like.

So they've, they've encountered that a lot, I guess, in the past, enough that they didn't mention it.

I mean, all the.

All the bullshit you have to endure as an ATV group leader.

I mean, you've probably got guys trying every trick in the book to go off chorus, to go faster.

I mean, that's just, that's a, that's a place for dirtbags to try and cause trouble, including me.

I would 100% do all these things.

You're trying to figure it out.

You're like, in your mind, you're doing the math of like, okay, how can I go the maximum amount of fast?

And you just can't.

You drive like maybe 10 miles an hour in a line, and then you get to the end.

And once I discovered that, I was like one minute into the tour.

And I was like, oh, no, this is going to, this is an hour.

And I hated it.

And was having a panic attack the whole time.

because I had to swipe my credit card.

And I'm broke as fuck at this time.

I had had to swipe my credit card.

And they were like, if anybody wrecks one of these things, we're going to take it out of your credit card, which would be crazy because I got too much money.

And

I was scared the whole time that Katie and Gwen were going to wreck the fucking thing.

Oh, that Katie and Gwen were.

Yeah, that me.

I knew I could handle it.

That's that is too bad that they didn't let you really open up that ATV in the midst of your panic attack.

Let's go to let's go to R slash monster jam, where we're going to get most of our stuff today.

Uh, and Visual Nail says, uh, so Monster Jam sucks now.

I've been going to Monster Jam for 24 years now, would be 25, but COVID happened, so we took a year off for COVID.

I think they did, they probably did, I'm guessing.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm guessing that, yeah, I'm guessing that uh, they didn't even have the event, probably.

I just like it that he's clarifying he would have, this would have been his, his, his quarter-century trip to Monster Trip, like number 25.

I want you to know that it's it is my 25th anniversary.

It's sort of been robbed from me.

And yeah, he wants to get his flowers, I suppose.

We all here we go.

During COVID and I think Monster Jam is no exception.

He goes, and after attending the show in Indy, I found it extremely boring and uninteresting.

Seems like there weren't nearly as many people there as there used to be too.

And the trucks all look awful, in my opinion, outside of Gravedigger, which i hate and avenger like what the

happened to el toro loco i only watch when i go in person

happened el toro loco what have they done to my boy el to loco i i just wonder what has happened to like you know i mean what is what it used to look like and what it looks like now and what he is so upset about i know what he's upset about okay good

the trucks aren't shaped like trucks anymore that is a big deal.

What are they?

What are they shaping?

Like sharks and Scooby dogs?

I see.

So

they have custom, like unique body.

Oh, I see.

They don't actually.

So they can sell toys, right?

Like, so Megalodon is a big shark looking, and it looks like a shark.

You know, they got a sparkle pony one that's like a unicorn.

That was for girls.

I don't like that one.

I don't either.

Excuse me.

They got a sparkle pony at my goddamn monster jam.

I mean,

that is kind of funny to me because I do recall it being a very toxically masculine place.

Oh, come on.

So to have the sparkly pony does seem kind of funny to me.

And I can imagine that would make a lot of old guys angry.

You know what else makes them mad?

A few women driving these things too nowadays.

Excuse me.

Yeah.

Because

I don't keep up with the newer retired trucks, but it just isn't nearly as good as it used to be.

What happened to trucks looking like trucks and not at ugly ass Megalodon?

I remember as a kid, trucks like backwards, Bob, Destroyer, Predator, Prowler.

I don't want to be Predator.

Or Prowler.

Or Prowler.

Yeah, why'd they get rid of Prowler?

Widely known as like a pervert thing to do.

Why'd they get rid of Predator and Prowler?

Coming this Sunday.

Come see Groper.

That's what it feels like.

And racing.

And then they go,

and racing, which had always been boring, gets worse every year with these stupid track designs.

And it seems like no other trucks are allowed to legitimately try and beat Gravedigger in a freestyle.

Not that it matters.

Digger wins based on name recognition alone.

That truck could literally have a boring run where nothing happens and everyone still gives Digger a 10.

And the over-the-top advertising, you can't go 10 seconds without hearing someone mention unoh bkt tires spin master toys etc it's so overstimulating i'm seriously considering about no longer going to the spirit going the spirit of max d and tom means is sorely missed after just a year

brian this sounds

the gravedig the grave dig riders are unbelievable

they don't stop sorry i had to say my stupid thing

brian this sounds and i'm sure let's go up again this sounds exactly like wrestling guys complaining about John Cena or Roman Reigns or whatever.

Yeah, totally.

Fuck.

So there's Megalodon for,

yeah, no, doesn't look like a truck.

That's not a truck.

It kind of still does look like a truck, but I get it.

It does look, it looks pretty cool.

I'm not going to lie.

This one looks pretty cool.

I'll show you El Toro Loco.

Okay, yeah, show me El Toro Loco.

I want to see what they've done, how they've massacred it.

They turned it into a bull.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

El Toro Loco.

That's the old one.

I'm trying to find the new one.

I guess I could type new.

I think that is the new one.

You think so?

Yeah.

See?

Oh, yeah.

El Toro Loco looks great.

Yeah, it looks great.

What's the guy even talking?

I use a bad example even for what he's saying because it still does look like a truck.

It still has horns on the front.

But that used to be banging.

That's what it used to look like.

This design.

It's just a different color, really.

Yeah, but the color's better because it's it's black um so let's get into the comments here

guy goes that show in particular was rough the track felt really spread out only two or three trucks really felt like they generated much energy like six trucks got their freestyle runs ended early off the backflip ramp the back flip is the only cool thing that happens at monster jam

i stood up and screamed at the back flip now it it does sort of a bouncy backflip right where it like bounces off the top.

Like it doesn't fully go up in the air and flip around.

It goes up in the air and flips around onto its beach.

Okay,

I would go fucking crazy.

I mean,

I wonder if they did that back in the day.

And I wonder how much that would have blown my fucking mind as a six-year-old kid to watch Digger do that.

Now, Tim, you,

you two speak.

You've been to some of these events.

When was the last time that you went to

like a monster Jam event?

Oh, I went when I was a kid.

And then I've watched it on TV intermittently.

I had tickets to go in Milwaukee last year, but I like went out of town or something, which I regret.

Although maybe because Monster Jam sucks now, I actually

mucked out on that one.

But the backflip is extremely cool because they don't always do it.

Sometimes they fuck up and they land like on their back and it's everybody goes, ooh.

So that's what happened.

Oh, I'm sorry.

That's what happened in Columbus.

Three trucks flipped over and weren't back out again.

Like they get like 75 seconds to do a freestyle run and three of them just flipped over in like one minute and like 10 seconds.

And then we just had to sit there while they towed it off.

I want everyone to know that when he said three trucks, Brian said three trucks and he held up two fingers.

I did notice that.

Two trucks, three trucks.

You didn't see my other finger.

It was hitting me.

This guy goes, I'm less than qualified to comment as I live in outback Australia, but looking at the post-COVID-19 shows on YouTube seems very lackluster compared to the 2017 World Finals.

Is it a loss of sponsorships over time or something else that has changed?

Now we get to the crux of the problem.

This

next comment is why everybody is fighting all of the time.

They've become a lot more targeted towards little kids.

Hang on a second.

That's always been the case.

You just used to be a little kid.

That's the only, that's all.

It just, that's,

they're always geared towards little kids, right?

Like, I mean, I guess, in my opinion, they are.

Like, that's who I see as being the people who can truly enjoy something like this is toddlers, young children.

But is that, maybe I'm wrong.

No, my wife wanted to go.

This guy goes, I'm here now.

So he's at the event now in Albany.

And I couldn't be more bored.

They have six trucks race in a circle.

Have the guy come to the middle and then interviewed two kids who had VIP tickets and did a cartoon race on the TV.

That all is true.

I saw that.

But that's a whole, the whole first, they just, they just explained the first like three quarters of the show.

I swear.

And he goes, uh.

This guy's at Monster Gym and he's going on R/slash monster trucks while he's at the event.

Yeah, that's how bored he is.

He's on his phone.

He's like looking for anything to do and he's like scrolling around on Reddit and then he like looks up.

He's like, God, they're still just fucking driving around.

He's on site.

He's looking for more pictures of monster trucks to look at because

he's at Monster Jam and all these cars look like sharks.

It's all bullshit.

I need to look at some real trucks.

Let me go on R slash monster trucks and look at what a real truck looks like.

Oh my God, he's mad.

He's like, and we love an on-site review on this show.

There's no better type of review than the on-site review.

Yeah, this is a form of an on-site review.

He's going to Reddit, but yeah, we love the ones where they're like in the parking lot and they're giving a review.

They're so angry that they can't even wait till they get home, you know?

And he goes, then all.

And it's worth noting that all these guys are like three to six beers in whenever they're watching or complaining about Monster Jam.

It is very much one of those high alcohol consumption events.

Absolutely.

100%.

He goes, I'm here now, Albany, and I couldn't be more bored.

Oh, no, I'm sorry.

He goes, then halftime.

I kid you not.

That's it.

It's been an hour and so much talking and literally two small events.

If you even want to call it that, I feel like when I was a kid slash teenager, it was so much more intense or action-packed.

It was because you are a kid slash teenager.

It was also, there was car crushing.

So he's right on both.

things.

It probably was also objectively more exciting too.

He goes back in, this guy goes back in the day, monster trucks were always regular vehicle bodies because lifting a standard vehicle body was how everything started.

Then monster trucks and specifically Monster Jam became marketable to a mainstream audience.

So with the advent of newer vehicle manufacturing and materials, fiberglass molds could be made with more wild body designs than your standard Ford street vehicle.

Moreover, they're trying to sell merchandise, especially toy trucks with the same body style, get stale for consumers and children.

The animals, monsters, etc., are vastly more marketable to children than a standard Ford body.

So

that's

afraid to say that my beloved manly adult hobby has been taken over by children.

It's happened to me again, guys.

I love it.

So I get, I'm scrolling through, and this guy,

you guys like this.

Chris is a movie guy, Tim.

Do you like movies, Tim?

I run a movie club in Milwaukee.

Holy this guy has...

Wait, wait a sec.

Brian, hang on a second.

A couple of fucking film guys want to maybe chit-chat a little bit.

That's very cool.

What's the most recent film you watched?

We just watched, what was it?

Obsession, which is a 1948

movie made by a guy that was part of the,

like the, what was it called?

The Red Scare, the anti-American.

Yeah, it was Edward Dimitrik.

He went to London and made a movie called Obsession, which is great.

It's about a guy that, an English doctor, that locks a guy up in like his garage to try to plan the ultimate murder.

This week we're watching Naked Killer, which is a Hong Kong action movie slash lesbian erotic thriller, which they don't make anymore.

That's been taken from us probably by Woke.

But it's about a bunch of, it's like about like a harem of female assassins that fall in love with each other and then shoot guys in the dick.

It rocks.

It's really, really scary.

I saw the drop movie where the guy dropped a thing on his phone and killer to kill her date.

This guy doesn't watch anything artsy, Chris.

No, this is a real not artsy movie, let me tell you.

It had pretty good reviews, and it was pretty okay, I would say.

This guy says, my cast for a Monster Jam animated movie.

So

cast for a movie.

Sylvester Stallone as Gravedigger.

Oh, of course, you got to have Sly.

Christian Bale as son of a digger.

arnold schwarzenegger as max d who who what's son of gravedigger is that gravedigger son but i gravedigger a woman truck and made a kid

yeah wait wait a second who is the mother of gravedigger jr that's not in here god damn it uh christian bale as son yeah and then george clooney as monster mutt This is the most expensive movie ever made.

No, no, you can get these guys to just do voice work.

You can get them a reasonable price.

Whoopi Goldberg as Monster Mutt Dalmatian, Vin Diesel as Monster Mutt Rottweiler, Cillian Murphy or Killium Murphy as Great Clips, Mohawk Warrior.

Great Clips, Mohawk Warrior.

Fucking

Matt Damon is Dragon.

Yeah.

Matt Damon is Dragon.

Diego Luna as El Toro Loco.

Tom Hardy as Blue Thunder.

Frank Welker as Scooby-Doo.

Richard Dreyfus is Megalithon.

So do they talk in this movie?

Can the Monctor Trucks talk?

Yeah, they're hard because they have a society.

They have a society or whatever, I would imagine, right?

Where

they have different jobs.

Yeah, it's like cars.

Will Arnett as Bakun and Dragonoid?

Johnny Depp as Pirate's Curse.

Daniel Kahlua as Zombie.

Jeffrey Wright as Thunder Rorus.

Tom Hanks is Soldier Fortune.

Christoph Waltz is Soldier of Fortune Black.

I think he's just saying saying that because he's the nazi in a movie this movie would cost five billion dollars yeah now now even on voice acting yeah now you've just stacked it with too many stars and also this is just yeah i don't know man this is this doesn't it just feels like you're just naming a bunch of uh actors or whatever tom kenney as earthshaker christian

Tom Kenny did like Spongebob.

Yeah.

And he could, he could definitely do that.

Christian Shaw as whiplash.

Paul Giamatti as Jurassic Assad.

Paul Giamatti in a monster truck movie is a really good idea.

I mean, they could all do it.

They could all pull it off.

I don't think that's the, you know, it's finally, Tara Strong as Sparkle Smash.

So that's his dreamcast

of a Monster Jam movie.

First.

First answer is, this is such a dumb idea for a movie, Ella.

Yeah, thank you.

Well,

this guy goes, I would watch it, though.

And then another guy goes, In no way, shape, or form would a studio put Diego Luna over Pedro Pascal.

Pascal is way too hot of a commodity for him to not be included in something like this.

Yeah, I'm sorry to say, but you're this huge, gigantic list of celebrities you made up for your fake movie that you created in your mind.

Yeah, there's one big problem with it.

You got Luna over Pascal?

That's, I do like that.

I'm just sort of like, um,

just sort of entertaining this person's stupidity.

Dealing with talking about

a guy that almost seems too smart

for that.

You know what I mean?

Like, I know it's a dumbass comment, but for the guy to be like, Pedro Pascal is so hot of a commodity right now in Hollywood is not like

one level up from the original poster.

I think he's like, might be goofing on him, too.

Like, a little, who knows?

I don't know.

He seems very serious.

This guy goes, looks like Sponge Tom and Toy Tom are in this.

And he goes, and the guy goes in parentheses.

I don't know who either Tom is.

I'm sorry.

First reply is: Tom Hardy is venom.

And then he replies back and says, Ah, okay, thanks.

Well, I have some bad news for everybody.

This is from Capital Tiger, and he says, Monster Jam is castrated.

This show is a joke.

Now, people vote for them to drive circles.

Not even one one jump in the first 40 minutes.

Um, and he goes, uh, listen, I know we are we are sort of ripping on all these so far.

All the people that have posted have said basically the exact thing that you told me after you left Monster Jam.

I didn't say it's castrated, that would be a psychotic thing to say.

I mean, you said something like that.

It wasn't that exact word, but I mean, these posts could have been done by you so far.

The castration thing is funny, like, there there is a lot of like psychosexual tension, like, wrapped up in how these guys feel about their cars, which is, I think, healthy.

That's, that's good.

Most psychologists recommend having those feelings about your car.

He goes, people vote for Monster Jam is castrated.

Act one.

This guy writes down the whole show.

So you guys are going to get to hear the whole show through a psycho that thinks it's castrated.

Um, while he's, he's at the show.

This is an at the show review from a guy.

And he goes, Monster Jam is castrated.

Act one, they run around circle 25 seconds.

People vote for a minute.

Act two, they, quote, perform wheel spin for 10 seconds.

People vote for a minute.

Act 2.5,

bikers perform.

What the fuck are bikers doing here in general?

I did feel that way too.

The motocross, the freestyle motocross.

I don't need that here.

That's not what this place is.

Actually, Monster Trucks is for big things to do stuff, not little motorcycles.

You know what I mean?

Yeah, no, I I agree with him on that.

Yeah, you agree with him on everything, just to be clear.

I still, I don't, I know what you're saying on that, but I think you agree with them on the other parts too.

Act three, they do freestyle, which is just a jumping.

For another minute, people vote, this show's a joke.

Take your money and pay for YouTube premium for a month and watch monster truck videos online.

All drivers should retire and license is taken away, so they can't drive on roads either because their show is bullshit.

Well, hang hang on no tricks

that doesn't seem fair that doesn't seem fair that they have their actual license taken away because you don't like the show if you're saying that they're doing bad driving that you're concerned with their ability to drive no he's not by the way no the next line is no tricks no crashes no skills at all except for one guy who has performed a backflip So he wants it to be more crashes.

Yeah.

Not encrases.

This guy has done a backflip with his truck, and you still want that guy to lose his license?

That guy is a very skilled driver, you know, clearly.

One backflip for a whole two-hour show.

This is rubbish.

They vote for running circles, you understand?

That's not an F1.

This show should have a new owner who can manage to make it a show.

Wait a second, though.

I think you guys both as wrestling fans, you can say sometimes there's something to be said for having a low amount of high spots.

Yes.

Thank you for saying this.

I do agree with this.

I

feel like, you know, I'm not like one of those Dave Meltzer guys or one of those guys that comments on Dave Meltzer.

Brian is, by the way, Brian, if I had subscribed to Dave Meltzer's podcast for a long time, even in literal years.

It's the worst thing I ever heard about him.

I do agree that contrast makes the high spots better.

Yeah.

You've got a show of all flippy stuff.

It's fine.

You know, that's great for kids.

But I like it when, you know, every,

yep, and some adults.

It's good for kids and some adults.

I know some adults, but I mean, I

know somebody who likes a lot of high spots, yeah.

You do, you, yeah, you famously watch that one thing that sorry, continue, Tim.

No, I'm just, I'm saying, honestly, this guy makes a lot of good points.

Uh, I do agree that you got to have some real hard-hitting on-the-ground matches to make all the flippy stuff extra special.

Yeah, that I mean, I suppose I think like because a big complaint you'll see, you'll hear as we go through this stuff is they don't do donuts anymore.

That's nuts.

You know what I mean?

So, the first comment is a guy that goes, biggest mistake you made was going to an arena show, not a stadium show.

Now, I did that.

That's what I did.

Oh, you're an idiot.

I went to nationwide or not even nationwide, which is a bigger arena.

I went to the Schottenstein Center where the Ohio State.

basketball team plays.

It's very small.

Like, I don't, I, when I saw the course, I was like, I don't don't know why I thought it was going to be bigger, but I genuinely thought it was going to be bigger.

I do agree that this shouldn't take place inside.

That seems wrong to me.

I don't like it.

It should be outside.

There should be like a rain risk, so it gets muddy, but like cars don't belong indoors.

Cars belong outside.

That's where they want to be.

This guy goes, what's the natural habitat?

Like the Jeep, can you imagine seeing a Jeep inside?

It would just like in like, oh, one of the saddest things ever would be to see a Jeep like caged up and not able to sort of roam around the countryside where it wants to be.

This guy goes, you went to an arena show.

What did you expect?

And then he gets a reply that goes,

something better than what's currently presented.

If the last arena show you went to was 10 years ago and you went to one today, you'd be very misled slash disappointment.

And then a guy goes, yes.

And then the next guy goes, if you don't like it, don't go.

I still love Monster Jam, to be quite honest, and still enjoy going to shows.

Then he gets a reply.

I love this guy enough asparagus.

He goes, just went last night and it was the worst, most lamest money grabbing event I've ever been to.

I went last year and it was much better.

This year,

this year, very low effort for not much action, but boy, did they charge out the ass for everything.

It's just a pathetic money grab.

I'll never take my kid again.

I bet you it's not that much more expensive, but I know how that can be when you're like light, like situation is different or whatever.

It's like money's more tight at that time, you know, and it's just like you start really kind of noticing, like, what the fuck at this they're charging $10 for that?

You know, like, that's what I feel.

Cause I don't feel like they could have increased that much the prices over one year, right?

No, I nothing has changed over one year.

Yeah, I feel comfortable.

I'm sure that it is overpriced.

I think it probably is overpriced to like everything else in this damn world.

Like, Brian, how much did it cost you to go to the monster gyms?

To get in wasn't expensive, but there, I don't have a, i i had a my 20 year old daughter and her 20 year old boyfriend and my wife so we weren't like pressured to buy merch and all that stuff like none of us wanted any toys or anything you know you didn't have any children there yeah if you take a little which is you know hey it's monster trucks you should be allowed to go as an adult but uh um you are you're allowed to go man i don't know what yeah there's no problem you're allowed to go one of the few freedoms they haven't taken from us is the freedom to go to a monster truck show yeah you can go.

It's like, yeah, you're going to be confronted constantly with the fact that you're at an event that is for children.

But you could definitely still go.

This guy goes, I'm sorry.

I haven't seen it been bad this year, barring breakage, which I can't say is something the crew have control over.

And our guy comes back and goes, okay, I'm sorry.

I'm just not a fan of being berated for every dollar in my pocket.

As soon as I step into the venue, on top of watching more people talk into microphones and stand on their truck more than actually drive it.

My 10-year-old was so bored, he suggested we leave early.

That should tell you something.

Seem more of an overpriced truck display than an actual show.

Um, and uh, guy goes, I got that with Hot Wheels Monster Trucks Live, to be honest.

Monster Jam might not be half as great as shows of late, but in general, I would say they aren't bad shows.

So, uh, we're just fighting pretty much, you know what I mean?

Uh, I do.

I feel like the hot, the fucking Hot Wheels

monster truck shows have become so corporate

they have club seats for those yeah did you look in the available oh yeah it's coming here they have club seats and i'm talking about you keep saying it like as if you've already decided you're buying those clubs

i want to see truckzilla

yeah yeah yeah

and bigfoot that's another issue bigfoot is a hot wheels thing

so bigfoot even isn't even at monster jam

like yeah i want to see Bigfoot.

Bigfoot's the guy.

Well, Gravedigger is the guy.

Let's go.

No, Bigfoot's the guy.

Okay.

I think we all like Bigfoot more than Gravedigger.

I am more of a Gravedigger guy.

I got to go with Chris on this one.

I'm a Gravedigger.

You guys are a couple of goths over there.

Yeah, I'm pretty gothic.

Sorry.

I'm a red-blooded American man.

I love Bigfoot.

This guy goes, this is from R slash, another one.

I don't think fans should be allowed to take part in judging.

I always see a gravedigger driver in the lead for Arena series, but I think it's biased considering that Gravedigger is possibly the most popular monster truck of all time right there with Bigfoot.

Disagree.

A lot of people will give Gravedigger a high score just because they're a fan.

Really makes me think it's unfair for smaller, unknown drivers who actually do well all year just to not be recognized in the point standard.

Now, this I agree with.

Yeah, that does make sense.

This reminds me of the way that they give ratings on Google for like footy matches.

The players will have a rating beside them of how well they played.

And only recently did I realize that this is just people on Google voting for who had the best game.

So it's not people who even watched it.

It's like, that's why you'll see like a game and like the most famous player or whatever, you know, he'll just have a high rating.

Like, and people do it as a joke and shit like that to like inflate people's ratings.

So yeah, that reminds me.

People can't be trusted in this kind of thing.

Definitely.

They'll vote for their favorites.

And it's Gravedigger, 100% of the time.

I can't think of anybody else that would be Gravedigger, except for Bigfoot.

He's so much more well-known than any of the other trucks in the Monster Jam, if Bigfoot's not even in it, that he's just like hands down the most famous.

He's the only one that 95% of the audience has ever heard of.

So what happens to the, is there like a, there's not like a purse.

It's just there is.

There is a purse?

It's a competition.

Me and Chris, I looked it up while I was there.

AI got it wrong.

I looked up, is Monster Jam a shoot?

And it said, No, it's a work, but then it said it's a shoot, like the it didn't understand, didn't know what a work and a shoot was.

AI, Google AI didn't know the difference between a work and a shoot, and Google's like, Yeah, let's toss that.

We'll run that out now.

It's uh past beta testing, we're gonna run it out for people to start spreading that information.

So, it's a real sport.

That's in my opinion, I think that's why it's not that good compared to like the old exhibition shows.

Like Brian, Brian likes his sports fake.

Thank you very much.

I mean, that is actually what I'm saying.

Yeah, I know.

I don't think anybody that goes to monster trucks is looking for a real competition.

No,

I agree with this.

I'm not interested in like learning who's the best monster truck driver because it's Gravedigger.

I want to see them do cool shit.

Yeah, it's an exhibition.

It's literally like, it's an exhibition.

People are just coming out to watch them do cool shit.

Yeah, the idea that there's like fans in the way that there are of sports teams or whatever, but they're all fans of Gravedigger.

No, no, no, no.

There are literally people who are fans of specific drivers.

Because there's like 10 gravediggers.

It's not just one gravedigger.

There's like three gravediggers working every night.

It's a Gallagher?

It's a Gallagher situation?

It is a Gallagher-Gallagher two situation.

That's exactly what it is.

And so he's crushing.

Yeah, he's freaking

cars and watermelons and whatnot.

No, he's not crushing anything.

Yeah, no, I forgot.

He's driving over a dirt hill.

So, so there are, so you're saying that there are, but so you're saying there are, so then that sort of flies in the face of what you're saying, then, Brian, because then those people would care about who wins and loses.

Those people who are fans of drivers.

But

my

rating is weighted the same as their rating

you get what i'm saying yeah yeah yeah so

you're saying you should give them more the super fans should get more power and they should be voting it that i mean i've been talking about that for a long time in in other

in other sports you you want to have a say in aew decision making yeah

i think i'd be great at it i brian wait we everybody listening knows that you think that you've said it a number of times

I think people can tell you're not joking.

I'm not joking.

I know I am.

I'm very serious.

I know.

I'm deadly serious about this.

Have you ever written down?

No, there's no point.

Well, I think that's your first issue right there is you're not taking it too seriously.

I think if you want to put together a packet,

I want to be a consultant.

Okay, so you don't want to.

I already have a job.

No, you don't.

I do.

This.

I know, but you know what I mean?

You have time to do a job like that, I think, and a part-time job.

So you want to work for AEW and that you want to make decisions on what happens in the storylines, but you do not want to have to do any of the stuff that an employee has to do as a worker.

I want to be either flown out.

to the arenas and be like I think this should happen and like I want to say like I don't like that I do like this.

Like, you're saying you're going to like call auto.

I mean, I'll do it on Zoom too.

You're saying you're going to call it audible, but like, something's about to happen.

You're going to say, I don't like to scrap this.

We're going to go with this angle instead.

I just want to have a voice.

Yeah, yeah.

I just want to say, Tony, this is bad.

Yeah.

Well, yeah.

I call him by his first name.

I agree.

So there are people.

He could stand to have a couple of people tell him that a few times.

Hey, Tony, this idea that you have and you won't stop doing is actually really bad.

Everyone agrees, but they focus on letting kids interact with the show, but honestly, get rid of it during finals.

Sarah goes, agreed.

I missed the old judge system where it was three or four people in the audience voting, consisting of Monster Jam officials and fans.

It was still biased at times, but not as much as now.

So,

from what I can gather,

the old way of doing it was they picked three fans in the audience as judges and then had real judges, and then maybe a couple kids.

And I mean,

I would say, I would say there's about a 0.5% chance that those judges were not bought.

If there was real money on the line, I mean, you know, Gravediggers grease in those pockets.

Gravedigger is, I hate Gravedigger because Gravedigger is a, he's definitely a villainous character.

I, I, I feel like in any, in any event, it's going to be, there's no right way here.

You know, Gravedigger is going to win, whether it's by fucking greasing the pockets or just by being the most famous.

He's inevitable.

It's like betting on the Washington Generals.

Absolutely.

Here's a question, Brian.

So you and I know that there's e-federations, right?

There's guys that go on and do fantasy booking of wrestling, which I think is cool and good.

Are there e-federations for monster trucks?

Are there guys like on message boards going out and like

I don't think that because the storylines are so for Monster Jam, the storylines are so sports based.

Like they really want this to be a legitimate contest that people watch and gamble on.

And like, they want all of that stuff.

You know what I mean?

They, so they've kind of stripped away all of the things that make it like this sort of like, somebody called it a white trash hoot nanny.

Like they've, they've stripped away anything that feels like kind of lower,

lower culture, low class stuff.

And they're just saying like this is a sport this is a legitimate sport where we do legitimate things and then they're standing so i don't think there's people like

i don't think there's people like writing stories for it but i think there probably are stories throughout the year that arise even though like

i i just i don't think the drivers care that much yeah i just not like think there's they're not doing they're doing interviews but not like it's not they're not cutting promos yeah they're not cutting promos and they're not not doing like

shoot interviews and or I mean, not work interviews and stuff.

You know, they're not doing like actual, God, I messed up shooting work.

I've been reading Google too much.

Well, these next two comments are going to show you that, you know, sometimes things are a little different than we think.

The first guy goes, I remember when monster trucks were a legitimate contest.

And then the next person goes,

main reason why Scooby-Doo won best freestyle at the finals.

So Scooby-Doo gets a lot of votes, too.

Oh, because of his movies and television appearances.

Oh, of course.

I never even thought about how fucking famous Scooby is.

I mean, he's got, he's very famous.

Yeah.

It feels like if you can get the right IP

for your truck.

Like, what if you got, if you got like

SpongeBob or whatever?

Patrick.

He's a very good.

Very easy, very easy to voice in the inevitable film as well.

Because you've already got Kenny on board.

He's already doing another voice.

This person goes, It's always been fans.

They literally used to pick fans.

It's never been, quote, legitimate.

This era of fan judging has certainly been one of the worst.

Gets a reply, goes, I might be wrong, but I swear I remember they used to have pro-judges, at least for the finals.

And he goes, person goes, they've been using fan judging at the world finals since 2017.

And our final thing is, I've never liked fan judging.

Let's go take a look.

Pro-judges.

Yeah, we need some pro-judges.

Let's look at this person yeah

monster drug judge i can't imagine they got another job i would imagine i was reading so uh and this is going to be on a bonus you will have already heard this on a bonus show but i was reading this guy pops into the r slash slow pitch softball forum

and he's like uh

if i quit my job and stuff and just trained Like, how long do you think it would be until I can make a living doing slow pitch softball?

I love that.

He's like a Ronin.

He's like traveling from city to city, you know, judging softball.

I think that's, that'd be cool.

Kind of the journeyman, the noble master samurai of soft pitch baseball.

Well, everybody's like, the guy that they named the bats after has two jobs.

Like

you maybe could become like a commissioner and cobble together something, but no.

You're not going to make a living doing slow pitch softball.

That's well, no, not with your, not just with your salary, but with endorsements and stuff.

You'd be able to probably do it.

No way.

Let's look at some reviews off Ticketmaster for Hot Wheels Monster Trucks Live.

This guy gives it one star.

Tim, did you know that you can do reviews on Ticketmaster?

Oh, did I?

Absolutely.

And I think it's a really important way to express your feelings and share feedback with the event management and staff.

They share it with the artist as well.

Yeah, they share it with people with zero control over any of the things they're complaining about.

Zero?

Michael.

Oh, zero.

Too much talking, not much action.

One star.

This is nothing like Monster Jam.

It's a cheap knockoff.

There's very little monster truck action.

The hype people talk too much, like way too much.

They try to be funny and get the crowd involved, but I could barely hear them or understand them.

I would honestly say 60 to 70% of the show is them talking and yelling at you.

The trucks run over a handful of cars slowly.

Then Then the hype people talk for about two or three minutes.

Then another truck goes slowly over a few cars, then repeat.

Then in the middle of the show, they spend about 20 minutes changing the arena for motorcycles.

The motorcycles did a handful of jumps and they spent 10 minutes changing it back for monster trucks, probably stuff.

He said, probably stuff.

So we all sat there for about 30 minutes.

No action.

I would not recommend.

What do these guys want?

Like it's a constant, constant, they want the cars constantly driving around, smashing into each other flipping around big explosions going through hoops they want one of the cars to come up to them and start talking to them and know their name and yeah it's a pretty simple ask yeah they're paying hard earned money for it no i i'm sure it does suck but yeah the the idea that it's like they're building it up and doing a bunch of it's like yeah they kind of have to with stuff like this you kind of got to do a bunch of build-up hype work it could be you need it to be good but it is it is necessary i feel like yeah i i mean i guess like we are geared because we all grew up in a time when it was sort of different

and like i think we do all think it's something that it's not but i think that what we think

like i think that what we think it was never You know what I mean?

Like these shows were never

constant action.

No, no, no.

They were never that.

And they never, I mean, I guess like

the thing you have in your mind all the time, the picture you have in your head of like Gravedigger or Bigfoot is they're driving really fast outside.

There's a ramp and they ramp over some

monster truck.

They ramp over some cars and then they do a donut

and it may be a backflip.

That's like what we think, but that is not.

what happens number one number two that's impossible

you can't get speed up in an arena it's an I don't know, like,

I don't know how you can look at a building that is an arena, which I did.

I get it now.

Like, as soon as I got in there, I was like, oh, of course, there's like no room for anything to happen.

I went to a stadium show.

I think it was

BC Play Stadium, big, huge football stadium.

And I think I, you know, they, they did the like jumping over cards and stuff like that in there, definitely.

But it's huge.

It's a big, giant, massive football field.

You know, yeah,

maybe a problem here is that all these guys watch monster trucks on YouTube where you can see just the action over and over and over again.

Yeah, because this thing all like this kind of stuff always takes a long time to set up.

I'm sure it did in the 90s and the 80s that there was a lot of downtime.

These guys just watch monster trucks all day on YouTube and think about monster trucks and talk about monster trucks.

And you never think about or watch the videos of, you know, the guys sweeping the thing or setting it up or whatever.

So they've got like totally brain fried on uh on too much non-stop action on the computer like had the floor fall down

the floor should fall and then the the red the a new one is comes out and then they immediately start doing monster trucks again i think that'd be better that'd be but because of woke you can't do that yeah well i i've said this

i had this idea for a concert tour

uh years ago like people people have done this i think what my idea yeah i think so because i remember when you did it like people on patreon maybe they commented that it's a thing, but yeah.

I want a bunch of one-hit wonder bands on a fucking spinning stage so that you're setting up while like AHA's playing Take On Me, Duran Duran, or whatever setting up to play Hungry Like the Wolf.

And when Take On Me's over, it spins around and boom, you got Hungry Like the Wolf.

And when Hungry Like the Wolf's over, it spins around.

You got Ice Ice Baby.

And like, I think like you get 12 acts on a situation like that.

That would work.

Like you have four different sides of it basically and it's rotating and then you're switching them out in that way yes yeah technology definitely exists 100 and it's good i think i think that's a good idea i know uh for example they have that technology at schools and stuff i got a friend who's a professor at berkeley and uh for the end of his semester he had all three sides of it with like a light show and spinning around and people posing and doing weird shit it was great but there is like the big spinning like classroom lecture that's definitely an idea that uh that works elsewhere and i swear I've heard about it with shows, too.

Yeah, I know.

That's what they're saying.

Like, people have done it before, I think.

Bands have done it.

Where there's like three bands playing and they like switch out or whatever.

And they like, yeah, I don't know.

The other idea I have is animatronic, like

Chuck E.

Cheese

that you switch out every six months or so.

So maybe you got the Beatles.

Animatronic at this, you go to this bar.

They got the animatronics, like Chuck E.

Cheese.

Adults all want to be kids these days anyway.

Yeah.

So like

I changed it every I got a question about the venue.

Oh, don't want to ask.

Is a person going to be paying attention at the door to make sure that my child is not taken out by somebody else?

Or is that person going to be?

This is a 21 and up club, first of all.

But if there was, I'm sure a person would take

that job very seriously.

Yeah, of course, it's a very serious job and not one to be high on acid for.

I'm sorry, I walk into the venue and I watch a bunch of animatronics play different songs.

It's basically like a jukebox with moving parts for an hour and a half.

Yes.

But there's also games there and like shuffles.

Chuck E.

Cheese.

This is okay.

This is adult Chuck E.

Cheese.

It's adult Chuck E.

Cheese.

But the pizza's better.

The pizza's better in what way?

Tastes better.

Oh, okay.

Neapolitan style.

It's Neapolitan.

Oh, they're doing it on like I got you.

So it's like a, this is like good pizza.

It's not like by the same sort of, it's, it's,

it's fancy pizza do you got chili oils and stuff to put on it hot hot which i gotta tell you i've been to a chuck e cheese in the past month and chuck e cheese is now also adult chuck e cheese yeah they got rid of the animatronics which is horse

you know what i mean what was the pizza like tim did you have any of the pizza i went right to the bar that was my whole reason for being there i wanted to get a drink of chuck e cheese Oh, yeah.

Yeah, they do serve booze.

I love that.

This person goes, too much talk and not enough action.

One star, we spent $300 to bring my son and his children ages three and five they were bored and so were we they talked the whole time they need to just keep driving their trucks around and do jumps and tricks i would not recommend ipad the ipad generation has been spoiled and can't appreciate good old-fashioned monster trucks yeah that's what that's the computer hey talk to your children in between how about no have a have a conversation with them about what's going on and stuff like that use that time and like get a little bit of excitement going and listen of course we don't know people may have been i mean and say, hey, it is really way too much talking, and they're not building it up in any way.

Yeah,

it is for sure.

It's more talking than you could ever imagine.

So, yeah, maybe there's like some, you know, I, I don't, who knows?

Maybe these people are kind of justified in what they're saying.

Like, maybe they're not being

even

shitty at all.

I mean, I could pose a question for you guys: in that, like,

uh,

how much of a percentage of an app, like, of a two-hour show

should be just trucks doing stuff?

And I would say 90% of it.

And it's not that.

That's the dream.

It's also not possible.

It's not possible.

You can't do that.

That's what I'm saying.

Like, the expectations of what you want at a monster truck show have been formed by seeing monster truck videos or all this like expectation of non-stop action, which is just physically not possible unless you develop some real insane technology, which we don't have the capability for for right now.

And even just like getting

all of them in the room is not easy.

You know what I mean?

They hate each other.

They hate each other.

They've got all kinds of beef and stuff.

And he's with her.

Rubbing at each other all day long.

Yeah, they're rubbing.

Yeah, they're.

I'm picturing Memphis, Kansas.

What's that song?

You know, the truck.

Never mind.

Well, there used to be when we were growing up, there were like DVDs and VHSs of monster truck shows that you could get for like, you know, $19.99 off the TV or you could rent.

And I think that has definitely sort of

colored our opinion of what it is because like Tim said, we're only seeing the, we're only seeing that one thing.

I'm trying to find, oh, I got a picture of an arena show for you.

I think the my, you know, the ideal monster truck show would be you have two gangs of monster trucks and they drive in a big circle and revere at each other.

And then they just crash at each other for that's what we've wanted.

That's what I want, but we're denied this because that's not possible.

My wife had wanted to go really bad, and uh, I was like, oh, you know, it'd probably be fun.

So, I got us, I got us tickets.

She also wants to do a demolition derby, which I've also been to in the past.

And

like, I remember my expectations for a demolition derby being something that people would literally die at.

Because

I remember what you were doing and you went.

yes I was a teenager but like I thought that

when I watched it I was like they can't even get up enough speed for anything to happen you know what I mean because the pin is too small that's by design obviously so that they don't like get going like 30 miles an hour and smash into each other you know so this is the arena

of what it looks like um

of what it looks like in an arena so how long do they drive around in that circle for well that's a race there's a race where they bring two trucks out and uh one starts at one line and one starts at the other line and they drive around in one circle and whoever makes it around win that sucks i know that's what see thank you tim i'm i'm i'm like justified here and then the next thing they do is freestyle and there's like four tricks there's stoppies there's something else i just remember stoppies because it was so funny me and my wife were yelling, stoppies, stoppies.

And bicycles where they're on two wheels and they like drive around.

And they each do like two tricks

out of that list of tricks that they have.

And then the third part is freestyle, 75 seconds to do whatever you want.

And generally in that 75 seconds,

when we were there, two trucks flipped and just couldn't drive anymore.

So they had to come and tow it off.

So it's just like, it is very little action i think compared to what a lot of people are thinking it is you know uh this next guy he goes brought it back five stars so this is oh wait no this that first guy gave it to and said pretty boring this was something new we were going to try as a family it was boring and very slow too much talking not enough hot wheels Maybe less trucks for the competitions.

The competitions take too long with six plus trucks.

Also, having less trucks would have helped for more space.

The Simmons Bank Arena is too small.

The tricks were the same old, same old, back the boring.

Go ahead, Tim.

I'm having this memory of something that I haven't thought about in years, which is that when I was 16 or 17, I had a job at a golf course, like digging holes.

You know, wake up at 4 a.m., go dig holes till 2 p.m., go back home or whatever.

But you got to drive the golf cart around the golf course.

That was like the best part of the job.

And I had this co-worker whose name was Wes, and he discovered that if you lift up the back of the golf truck and jam a sprite bottle onto like some part of the engine, you could get much, much faster on the monster

on the golf cart.

You could speed like three times faster than it normally goes.

And so Bus would just do this and drive around going really fast.

And one day it rained so that everything was wet.

And Wes takes us out and there's like a small mound.

He's like, check this out.

I'm going to do a jump.

And he.

rushes down going super fast in the golf cart and hits the mound and just crashes and wipes out immediately.

And I think that we really underestimate how hard it is to do a jump in a vehicle.

It's like not a thing you can do spectacularly.

It takes a lot of momentum and a very specially designed ramp and you just can't do that very easily or spectacularly.

I totally agree.

It doesn't look that impressive to us anymore because we've seen like crazy stuff in movies and those crazy big jumps and then all the monster truck videos like we're talking about that we just kind of expect it.

But yeah, just itself, it's crazy what they're doing.

They were like the impressive, right?

There was a road, there was a road in Columbus called the end of the world that was like a legend.

When you were like 10, you'd talk about the end of the world.

There was the end of the world and Devil's Ditch.

We went to Devil's Ditch.

It was a ditch where people said that people were worshiping Satan, but it was also a really good place to ride your bike.

So we would go there.

But the end of the world was just a drop-off.

It was a road that has just a drop-off to drive down.

You know what I mean?

And

once one of you gets your license in a car, you go there and you drive as fast as you can and jump off of the end of the world.

And I remember the first time I did it and we caught air in the car.

I was like, when you land,

you really do feel like this thing's going to break from under me.

Like, this is fucking crazy.

It's like such a heavy thing when you're doing it.

We did it in so many big trucks and stuff like that.

So like catching air

is so much more intense than you're giving it.

Like you said, Tim, you're giving it, you're not giving it credit for how intense catching air is.

Right.

Your 2,000 to 3,000 pound vehicle like was designed to not catch air and to not fall off things.

And so it gets very strong.

You guys ever go mudding?

I haven't because I hate mud.

That's a terrible place

for you to be then.

You'd really not fit in very well if you were going mudding.

I haven't mudded, but I've been in a car that went mudding.

And I think that's like, that's a good car activity because the car is doing things it was meant to do, which is spin around and fishtail and drive through stuff.

But getting air, I don't know, that you're, you're, you're playing with fire there.

Yeah.

It's loud when you land too, because we get it so many times.

My, my friend's mom had a dually

that we would take off of the

porno Sean's mom, that we would take off of the end of the world.

And it would be so loud when we would land.

It was fucking crazy, but he was crazy and he would do anything with that car.

He didn't, you know what I mean?

He didn't give a shit.

He's driving 100 miles an hour in that fucking thing.

And oh, yeah, that's Sean, you know, brought it back.

Five stars.

I haven't been to a monster truck show since I was in third grade.

It was everything and more.

My first and still my favorite truck is Bigfoot.

bigfoot thank you and he was there being driven by a ginger female made it so much better that part

so turn

turn turned them on i don't know

i find it strange but whatever uh i'm very happy that monster truck shows are still a thing and i hope they never stop i hope monster jam comes back to san antonio texas so that guy's happy it will yeah now we're gonna read monster jam reviews and as an extra bonus, reviews of the ones I went to.

The one I went to.

Oh, the actual event you went to.

Will it include your review?

Yeah.

I didn't review it.

I don't review stuff.

Well, that's not totally true.

Can you pull up your thing and just read one of your Google reviews?

I don't learn anymore.

No, Brian, just one of the ones that you read before because I forgot them.

I love them.

Brian has done a couple of reviews on Google.

That's silly to bring up, but I don't know how to find them, I guess.

Oh, come on, you do too.

I don't really know how to find them.

Where do I search for it?

You got to find it for me.

I'm sorry.

I'll find next time.

On a bonus episode, I would just love to hear them.

I remember them.

They were good.

I mean, I only do it when somebody makes me.

You know what I mean?

So here we go.

This guy goes.

One star, no crushed cars, a tiny obstacle in the middle that they barely rode over.

Not to mention no serious jumps.

they seem scared to death to do anything by the way you guys saw the picture of that arena

what are they supposed to do that's death defying you know what i mean also like

i don't know i don't think they are that scared because i think they've been driving these trucks a long time and they're very they probably feel but they would be justified in feeling scared to be doing a flip in a big truck because it is a bunch of people in the room like

it's a scary thing to do i would say it's pretty scary you know like it's like i think it would make most people feel scared i would do it

i would do it

i can see you doing it i can't see you pulling it off but i can see you doing it i would do it though i'd try i'd give it a shot yeah absolutely i have no i think i can pull it off because i would just put the pedal to the friggin' metal if that's all it took then yeah i think you can pull it off i think there might be more to it than that what else could there be i don't know actually

i don't know what else there could be yeah i don't know now that i think of it you might be right.

It depends, I guess, on some things.

But I don't know.

I guess a driver might tell you that there is some other stuff.

But yeah, I think if you just go as fast as possible,

you should flip if you hit the,

if they make the jump proper.

That's what all the work is then.

The work is in building and designing the jump, but the truck is just an accessory for this demonstration of engineering performance.

And again,

no reason for it to be a shoot at that point.

You know what I mean?

Oh, we built a ramp that you can flip on.

You know what I mean?

Shoot, which one is shoot?

Shoot.

But I'm saying, like, we built a ramp specifically made so you can do backflips.

Yeah.

So what is the driver doing that they deserve extra points when they do a backflip other than doing a backflip, which seems easy?

All of it seems easy.

I mean, stopping seem kind of hard.

So now you've turned her over to it all seems very easy to do.

I do think the stuff in the truck is relatively easy.

This is quite an incredible episode in that Brian has yet to disagree with a single thing that anybody has said.

This guy goes, I recall as a kid, both ends of the arena having trucks side by side and some intense action.

I don't know what he remembers.

Well, he's just, it's a vague memory.

He's being honest.

He's not trying to make stuff up.

He's like, I remember two cards trucks side by side.

It was fucking intense.

What was the action, though?

Well, he doesn't remember that part, Brian.

He's just sharing with you his memory.

It's not a complete memory.

Yeah.

My kids enjoyed it, but I have a feeling if I took them anywhere else for the real show, they wouldn't want to go back to this tiny anticlimactic show again.

So his kid, first of all, I gave it one star.

His kids enjoyed it.

He hated it.

I feel like that's a three-star review.

But the kids, well, the kids can do their own fucking review.

He's doing his review and it's one star.

And these fucking idiots, if he took them to a goddamn good show, then they'd realize it's just because they don't know shit.

That's what he's saying.

I like it as a real show.

Yeah, this guy, it's so sweet.

He's like, my kids liked it, but it's like, if I fucking, if they don't know what a good thing is, because they're fucking stupid.

It's because they have no fucking taste about monster trucks.

They honestly, like, they're, it's honestly embarrassing their lack of knowledge when it comes to the history of of Monster Jam.

This guy, five stars, smashing experience.

I like this guy already.

He's cool.

He goes, this year was the greatest year of Monster Jam we've been to.

We had the best seats with the greatest view of the trucks.

The aroma of the methane was so heavenly, lol.

The happiness on my children's face was so well worth every penny we spent.

The drivers definitely did not disappoint.

We plan to attend every year when they come back to our hometown.

So that's

a smashing experience.

Lovely.

I like that guy.

Yeah, he managed to have a smashing experience despite the fact that there was no smashing of cars.

And I wonder if that was a little bit of a play on words there, but this guy seems very positive.

And his kids had a good time.

He's got it right.

If you go somewhere with your children and your children have a wonderful time, then that's a good, that's a good outing.

Here's some reviews of me from Airbnb.

Brian was a charming guest.

We would be delighted to host him back.

That's one of those things that you click.

You know what I mean?

Like you don't type that out.

That's just one of the things you can click, like an auto-generated.

We would gladly host Brian again in the future.

Again, these are auto-generated ones that they've.

Hosting Brian was a delight.

None of them have said anything specific at all.

I can't find my reviews, so I'm sorry.

Is there any negative reviews of you on Airbnb?

No, no, no.

I do agree with Brian, as what he said in the past, is I do feel pressure to leave a good review for my Airbnb hosts, and I do put effort into making them feel special.

Okay.

This guy goes, this is for Columbus.

The one-star review for the show I went to.

Okay, so this is the one you were recently at.

Yeah.

Oh, I just realized that like when I look at my profile on Airbnb, it says my work, podcaster, pets, no, where I went to school, Ohio State University, I spend too much time on Legos.

Oh, my God.

Why did you fill out?

Why did you take it so seriously?

I'm obsessed with pro wrestling.

Why did you divulge so much about yourself on the Airbnb profile?

That I don't know.

I can't give you an answer to that.

I don't know why I said I'm obsessed with pro wrestling and I spend too much time on Legos.

When you see a box, you just fill fill it out.

Is that just kind of thank you?

Yeah, you do.

I'm obedient.

Unless it's his doctor, in which case he will lie about it.

Okay, yeah, I lied once and it was for a good reason.

Because

you didn't know the answer.

That's the reason he lied to his doctor.

He called his doctor to say, hey, I'm having this issue.

And then she said, she asked a number of questions, the person at the doctor's office, and he didn't know the answer.

So instead of saying, I don't he instead lied and said yes to every single thing.

That's being say, it's safety to him.

It was actually a safety thing for me because it was like, I don't know the answer.

I'll just answer yes, just in case that's the answer.

Ended up at the emergency room for seven hours.

And then the doctor's like, hey, dip shit, you got constipation.

This guy goes, we usually go to Monster Jam every year.

This was the first year that I took my nephews and my son for a Christmas gift.

the show felt shortened the trucks were not as interactive as usual that i don't understand well they used to come up and talk to you

that's what i mean you used to be able to ride on top and they would say like they would talk to you and stuff did you did did you used to be able to chant like backflip and it would do that they would do the backflip oh like you you could like give them i don't think they would take direction i don't recall that being a part of it yeah i wonder what that could mean well now with with technology, now with technology, you could just have people vote for backflip,

yeah, in real time on their phones.

Yeah,

Lord knows they're on them, anyways.

Zombies.

A guy goes, The show felt shortened.

The trucks were not as interactive as usual.

No donuts, no flips, and it felt like the announcers talked a lot more than usual.

Very disappointing to see trucks flipping and breaking down, and regular trucks like El Toro Loco not there.

I thought El Toro Loco was there.

El Toro Loco no no showed it.

I don't know.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's what it says.

This guy, three stars.

Okay, probably better in an outside arena.

10-year-old daughter had a fun time and didn't complain.

What a way to open a retreat.

Yeah, that's it.

That's it.

That's it.

That's it.

I'm sorry to say, but that's it.

You're not realizing then you're just, that guy's in a fantasy world where he thinks this event is for him.

Right.

And that he's not just a fucking chaperone of the child that he's bringing to the event.

If your child had a good time, that's a four or five star review.

Thank you, Tim.

This gets a little weird, though.

Okay.

Like there's a reason it's not a good review.

He goes, took forever getting in and we missed the first 45 minutes.

Accordingly to the arena staff, it was the fault of the Monster Jam company.

They have their own staff and there wasn't enough there.

Again, show was okay, but would have been better outside.

Hang on a second.

This is one you were at?

Yes, yes.

So did you, were you late?

Did you get to wait in line?

I barely had to wait in line.

And what time did you arrive at?

Six.

And what time was the show?

6.30, I think, or 7.

So you got there a little early, maybe.

So it sounds to me like maybe this guy got there late.

Yeah, but it was the fault of the Monster Jam Company.

That he was late.

It sounds like he was late and maybe there was a bit of congestion in the line because he was late.

He's also probably exaggerating.

You know, you do that thing where you're like,

45 minutes, but it was like 20 or whatever, like 21 minutes.

Hot Wheels on Amazon sells monster trucks.

They have a monster trucks collection.

Now, are these Hot Wheels monster trucks or are they like, because there's the Hot Wheels brand of monster truck?

Is that related to Hot Wheels?

Yeah,

this is the Hot Wheels Corporation, which we're one day.

One day we're going to do Hot Wheels, guys, because I was at the convention center one day doing what I do.

And I was

walking.

And

that's not all you do there.

There was a there was a thing, a Hot Wheels convention there.

And I am not exaggerating.

It happened during the day, during the week for like two days in a row.

And I didn't see a single child there.

That's wild because Hot Wheels are like, like my nephew is, he loves monster trucks, but not as much as he loves Hot Hot Wheels.

Like Hot Wheels, he has so many of them and he is obsessed with it.

He has the ones we're looking at on screen.

I know these.

I have these.

They're at my mom's place for my nephew.

So this is like a very much a thing that

children around the age of four love.

Well, yeah, but there, and I would be there and I go to Starbucks and there would be guys trading cars and they would have like their little case open on the table at Starbucks with with their coffee and they're like trading Hot Wheels with each other and stuff.

40 year old guys.

It was incredible to see.

That was cute if they're like 12.

No,

no, they were men with like beards and jobs.

It seemed like.

How's your teardown?

How's your teardown going on your

working on a Lego set now?

I might have to get rid of a lot.

People, somebody commented and I think is, I think you commented and hadn't thought of it, but yeah, you should get rid of them, donate them, definitely.

Smart.

I might do that.

Yeah, okay, so no, no, no, commit to it.

Well, I know, I don't commit to anything.

Uh, this guy goes, but I want you to see the description of this because it's going to be very important for the reviews we read.

Hot wheels, monster trucks, two-pack, Easter basket stuffers, demolition doubles, set of two toy vehicles, and 164 scale for kids and collectors.

Now, the next line is in parentheses, and it says styles may vary.

Uh-oh.

So you are not buying these specific trucks.

You're buying a two-pack of trucks, which I think is stupid, but that's what you're buying.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

And so I don't, I hate to tell you guys this.

There's some people that are very unhappy with what they got.

This person goes, disappointed.

I got a set of monster trucks, one shaped like a toilet, and the other one.

That's actually pretty cool.

I wouldn't like that one.

That made me burn that.

That's the biggest laugh I got in a while on the show.

Once they sent me a monster truck shaped like a toilet, it does seem like a fucking insult.

The other one has poop patterns all around it.

Purchased to add to a birthday gift.

And it's actually embarrassing.

That design's not even show on, that design doesn't even show on the collection list.

So they're like, I can't even give this away.

Yeah, somebody, this sounds like somebody's giving

you like you know like this isn't even on the list of monster trucks that could be possibly given out i somehow got a toilet and a poop truck

here's the next one they look like roller skates oh that's cool oh really you think so

i i personally think it looks pretty cool yeah this person says i realized that in the description it says that styles may vary but these weren't even trucks they were shoes with wheels uh my nephew, who is a huge Hot Wheels monster truck fan, was so disappointed.

I was as well.

When it says monster trucks demolition doubles, you don't normally think, oh, please send me shoes.

Sounds like they sent you roller skates.

And yeah, those are roller skates, not shoes.

Great point.

But also, I wonder who was,

the poster mentioned that they were disappointed and their daughter was disappointed.

I wonder who was disappointed first.

That would be an interesting question.

You know, if maybe mom was disappointed first or whatever, and then, you know, the kid was emulating that or if the kid would, because I just, I feel like a kid would find that pretty fucking cool.

I agree.

I agree.

I don't think the kid opened and was like, oh no, shoes.

Yeah, like, I think it's like, it's a shoe that drops.

Like,

Henry has plenty.

My nephew has plenty of like Hot Wheels cars that are complete, like a hot dog one I got for him.

It's like a spatula and a hot dog.

I don't like that.

How come?

Not a truck.

Yeah.

So he loves it, you know?

He's like, is it a sandwich?

Is this hot dog truck a sandwich?

Right.

Yeah, him and I,

I get into that with him all the time.

I'm like, is this a sandwich though?

And he's like, I want to play with it.

I'm like, no, no, no, no.

This isn't more important.

Is this a sandwich?

I do feel like a jacked-up wiener mobile would be a cool thing to see driving around.

Oh, yeah.

Dude, yes.

Like seeing it jump.

Oh, fuck, a monster truck wiener truck.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah, Oscar Meyer, Oscar Meyer, the famous Oscar Meyer truck.

Like, like, maybe, you know, you have to think of like a cool name for it, like, that would be like a bulked up version of Oscar Meyer, you know, and then, and then have it be the Wiener truck.

Or even an AMS 700 truck.

Ooh, an AMS 700 truck that pumps itself up.

You pump it and it gets a hard on.

Do you know what the AMS 700 is?

I don't know, but I really, I really do.

It's well, it's okay.

So, if you're, I'll just quickly go through this.

If you're having problems getting erections, then of course you're going to take your regular erection pills.

Yeah.

When those stop working, you have to take super high pro like potency ones.

And then when those stop working, you have to inject your penis directly.

Got it.

And then after the injections don't work, then you have to purchase something known as the AMS 700, which is a penis pump that you physically pump your penis up with and make it hard the pump is in your balls though the pump is like in your balls yeah if you're at a party or something like that you can like if you're at one of your swingers parties you can go

like a reebok pump on your balls on your balls

yeah that's

cool yeah it is cool it is it is very cool that like it's a cool piece of technology medical technology that we came up with as human beings definitely obviously we'd rather have, you know,

the injections, but those just stop working.

Well, yeah, of course.

And I know what you're thinking, Tim.

Yeah, why don't you keep using the injections?

We'd love to keep injecting our penis with a serum of some sort to make it hard, but it just stops working after a while.

But I love this line here.

When it says monster trucks, demolition doubles, you don't normally think, oh, please send me some shoes.

You think it's going to be trucks?

Well, have you seen the modern day monster jam?

I mean, maybe back in the day you think that, but nowadays, I think you got to be open to what anything, you know, being sent to you.

Uh, one star.

This was so bad.

I received a toilet theme.

Yes.

One truck had a toilet on it.

The other had poop, a toilet and toilet paper.

How ridiculous.

I thought I'd pick up a few extra monster trucks for my son, but no way will I keep this trash.

I want to get hold of the poop truck.

That's one that I want.

The secondary market for the poop one, I bet, is huge.

I mean, they don't even reckon.

I'm sure you don't want it.

How about fucking sell it and then buy the whole fucking company, buddy?

That's the poop truck.

If I went to Hot Wheels and they busted out a toilet truck, I would lose my shit.

I'd be cheering for that thing.

I'd be tearing my shirt off and waving it in the air.

That'd be incredible.

That'd be the best.

Everybody should want the toilet truck.

It's crazy.

Yeah.

And people are mad.

I, oh, dude, if I was fucking seven years old and they got me a toilet truck, it would have been the best thing I ever had in my life.

You know what I mean?

It's funny nowadays you would appreciate it as well.

I mean, you love toilets.

Yeah, you have a complicated relationship with toilets, I would say, but it's a why are you looking at me like that?

You definitely do.

I would say you love toilets.

I don't know that toilets love you.

I don't know that it's reciprocal.

One star, not trucks.

I got this in the mail today.

I was fine with random random trucks, but not sneakers.

They're not even trucks designed as sneakers, but just shoes with four wheels.

So it seems to be the ones that are upsetting people are the shoes in the toilet.

Yeah, they don't like the shoes or the toilet.

If I'm Hot Wheels, I'm getting some bad heat for that.

I might recall the shoes in the toilet.

Hey, hey, nasty Gary, can you come in here?

We want to talk about your idea.

Nasty Gary.

This is the guy who keeps creating fucking shoes and penises.

this guy he's a foot he's a foot guy

the the shoe ones are actually more gross in his mind than the toilet ones well because that's shoes are obscene i like that that makes sense he hates shoes because they're covering up his you know rob says

one star demon faces Uh-oh.

So I ordered a pack from my two-year-old thinking he's getting a monster truck that looks like a train and another one that looks blue and white.

What I get instead are two monster trucks with demon faces and fangs for teeth on them that have weird Chinese sounding names.

I threw them straight in the garbage.

Yeah.

And so

yeah, take your Chinese demon cars.

I mean, demon cart

is almost for me, that would be my toilet car.

I would be so excited.

That'd be sick as hell.

Yeah.

Yeah, that would be cool.

And also, kids aren't like afraid of demons in that way.

They don't really understand what they are, a two-year-old kid.

So I will say like there is maybe certain imagery and stuff that will scare them, but I don't know.

Like, yeah, sorry to keep bringing up my nephew as an example, but he has, you know, there's lots of stuff that's very scary kind of stuff, and he doesn't see it in that way.

It's like almost funny to him.

Yeah, if I was like five or six or seven and I got a demon car, I think it was the coolest thing on earth.

Yeah.

I'd like to school and show my friends and stuff.

It's like getting mad at Gravedigger for being like morbid.

You know what I mean?

Like, I'm sure somebody has gotten mad at it for that, but like, that's what it reminds me of.

This person goes one star, no deal.

Only got one package with two trucks from Star Wars.

I need to update my last review.

I went back and read the original ad.

The order was correct in every way.

I was wrong.

Didn't read it right.

So sorry.

Oh, that's

some humility.

I appreciate that.

And listen, I understand you're pissed off.

You got freaking Star Wars.

That's, that kind of sucks to me getting something, you know, what if that guy's like a big Trekkie or whatever, really hates Star wars yeah i don't know about giving somebody a star like something that's that specific from like a movie that that feels like that shouldn't be in the mix in my opinion let's do one more thing real quick this is just a thread i saw that i think you two will love i love monster jam but

it feels like it's slowly getting more and more targeted towards children I don't have a problem with a younger audience.

I was even part of it.

And it used to feel like it was something for everyone, but not so much now.

I used to be a child.

It seems like every year I get older, they decrease the target audience by one more year.

I just keep falling out of it.

It's ridiculous.

It's like, and listen, I understand.

I

was a child.

It's 35-year-old figuring out that MTV isn't targeted towards them anymore.

You know what I mean?

Like, because I remember that happened to me.

Oh, it's all this shit on here, ridiculousness.

Like, why would I watch that?

It's fucking stupid.

And then I realize, oh, because I'm outside of the target.

Oh, I got my channel.

Time to pop over to Showtime for a whole bride.

It's like going to the Minecraft movie and saying, ah, the pacing was a bit off in the third act.

Yes, exactly.

Chris, did you see the Minecraft movie?

Yes, I lit off fireworks and

caused quite a stir up here in Canada.

I thought it was going to be pretty meme-worthy, to be honest, but yeah, I guess a bunch of people

died.

Oh, this guy goes, I'd argue it was always was monster truck fan from 1988 here.

And this guy goes, nah, I mean, it's always had a kid audience.

But back in the day in the 2000s, 2010s, it felt like an auto racing show.

Something the kids could enjoy, but could easily be enjoyed by auto enthusiasts too.

Not only with more of a focus on the drivers, stats, and behind the scenes of the trucks, et cetera.

Now I don't know who half the drivers are.

Most of the interesting independent teams like 2Xtreme aren't there anymore.

And they had an actual life-size play set at the World Finals this past year.

That was a jump the shark moment for me.

So

they had a kids playset at the finals.

He's like, that was a jump the shark.

I mean, these kids.

So that was a, that was a self-actual.

Is it?

That was like a real moment where he's like, holy fuck.

It's like everything starts to like slow down around him.

And he starts seeing all of the like children displays and stuff.

And he's like, oh, no.

He's looking in the mirror and he sees the face of a child just rapidly getting older.

He sees himself aging to like a crazy, like old man.

God, I wish I could find my Airbnb reviews.

They're pretty boring, though.

Guy goes, I mean, I'm 19 and consider Monster Jam to be one of the most crucial parts of my childhood.

Heck, I was literally potty trained by being bribed with monster truck toys, LMAO.

The toilet car.

That's a perfect use for it.

That's 100%.

That's perfect.

I don't know.

You probably get mad you got it, though.

Yeah.

I mean, that's.

I can't believe people are mad about the toilet car.

I, I, it blows me away.

Like, you're, that is the best thing for a little boy is a toilet.

You know, I told you guys there was a soccer team when my daughter.

I would say, or a little girl, a little girl uses a toilet as well.

There was a soccer team in my daughter's league when she was really young called the Golden Toilets.

Like, they named it.

because it was like,

yeah.

So anyway, this guy goes only getting familiar in the last year or so due to my four-year-old twin boys' interests.

We hit Hot Wheels and Monster Jam between the light-up snow cone cups, cotton candy masks, plush toys, and toy trucks.

It's fully the modern day circus.

So,

yeah, it's over.

I have a Google map of everywhere I've ever had a beer or used the toilet.

So, I think toilets play a pretty big part in my like perception of how the world works.

Oh, that is.

I should get that, but I use the toilet mostly in two places.

I guess I pee other places.

Well, when do you travel?

You can see a map of all your toilet experiences.

Well, I'm always just going to be the lobby of the hotel or whatever.

But it's always like,

I don't, it's always like, yeah, a bad experience for me.

Okay, I found one for the place I went last time.

I got to get to the place and I will read a review from a place that I stay.

Oh, motherfucker, it's so important.

All right.

Well, you know, someday.

Oh, here it is.

Okay.

Someday I'll read a review for you,

Brian.

Oh, oh, we had the best time.

It was a perfect room.

I don't know why it's always funny.

Yeah, you don't know why.

I know.

That's what makes it funny.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I got it.

I got more.

I got to get to it.

This is from when I was in Packwood, Washington to see Mount Rainier.

You got to scroll through.

There's 62 reviews here, but I'll get

it's so hard.

They should just list your first of all.

This place has a 5.0 score, so you can't really complain about it.

All right.

Well, it's so impossible to find your stuff here.

You should be able to just click a thing and have all your reviews.

And I think we'll go ahead and

we'll finish up the show.

I'll find my reviews for everybody on a bonus show sometime on Patreon.

I mean, we've gone through them before, so it was only, I was only trying to hear the

hundred percent the best Airbnb I ever stayed in.

The beds were really comfortable, and the place is cool looking.

I really love this place, and Eric was a great host.

Perfect stay.

I really love this place.

I did.

All right, we'll see you.

Tim,

thank you for having me.

Oh, thank you.

Do you want to plug anything?

I, you know, I write about health policy.

So

if any guys listeners want to learn about how American health finance works, I've got a button down.

My username is error.

So button down.com/slash error.

Nice.

Yeah.

I mean, it is good.

We don't do politics stuff on the podcast.

Chris cousin because he says they're, because he's Chris is like a big conservative alt-right guy.

So he's like, we shouldn't talk about politics on the show.

It's funny.

The only stream that I did where you weren't here and people pointed out that I actually talked a lot about politics, like local politics.

I talked a lot about like the by-election in Vancouver and shared a lot lot of political views on there.

So, yeah, but it was because you weren't there to remind me.

Um, but yeah, Tim is uh very funny and also very smart and yeah, writes about important things.

I followed him for a long time, so yeah, go check out his stuff, definitely.

And he also, uh, my name's in his book, so

that's right, I am acknowledged in his book, so you know it's good, and I don't, I, I love that.

Then I'm

is it Kweber or Chris Christian?

We're done.