Guys: Episode 115 - Psychedelic Guys with Dead Blossom Jesse

Oh, I got something in the mail.

Welcome to Guys, a podcast about guys.

Don't leave that in, or you can.

I don't care.

I am Brian.

I did.

I got something in the mail.

fucking what what it brian what did you get in the mail before shoes

oh my god you

you would not even imagine listener how ugly these shoes probably are no these shoes are different they're just

black on black that's not like an insult and they're not ugly those shoes aren't ugly you know some of them magnificent you know some of your shoes are a little bit ugly by design

i yes i wear them and people look at them Yeah, that's all I have.

One guy says your shoes look like a fam and I was like, you don't know fashion.

That's some old shit.

You're saying something looks like a fam.

It looks like a family.

2011.

Yeah, that's like a 2011 joke.

And you're saying that to me with the wonderful shoes I'm wearing that are very stylish, designed by J Tipps.

Oh, right.

Brian, from an outsider's perspective, I do get the sense from you that you would like buy the...

You would buy Pee Wee's house and you would just live in it and think it was cool.

You wouldn't make any changes.

I would rent it.

You would rent it.

Yeah, he would.

He refuses to purchase a home.

So

he would not have to do it.

All right, so what's your objection?

Your objection isn't

that

while you're sitting on the chair, it's like talking and like ticking the back of the bottom.

No, his issue is that he wants to give his money to somebody instead of having equity at the end of all of it.

That's right, baby.

All right.

Well, this week on guys, we've kind of had to start over a couple times.

That's why it's so loose.

And it's nobody's fault, right?

It's mine.

The blame doesn't need to go anywhere.

Honestly, it's the internet's fault, and I hope it's mine.

Because I worked on the internet.

Do you know what we should actually say here?

How about we say that it was a friggin' Starlink or whatever that Elon Musk guy?

Come on.

All right.

And then we'll get to the bottom.

You promised we wouldn't get political, Chris.

There's some blame over there.

I know you have your opinions, and obviously, I have my opinions, right?

But we promise

you to get into it.

We actually don't get political at all on the podcast.

I don't have any opinions.

So anyway,

this week on the show, we're talking psychedelic guys, and I brought on someone that I don't even know if they've done psychedelics.

Dead Blossom Jesse.

Hi, Jesse.

Hello, and not once in my entire life.

Real, yeah.

You know what?

That's funny, though, because I was like, either way, it's cool because like we had Jesse on the Arrowid episode, which is the most druggy episode we ever did.

And Jesse is the least, like the only with the only drug we found that he does is dramamine, which makes you feel tired and normal.

You know what I mean?

Like you're dizzy with your natural life.

You take a dramamine and it just locks you back in.

At least that's how it is for me.

You know, this is the, I think the reason, the main reason why I've never done psychedelics in my whole life is anytime I've had the opportunity, it has been, do you want to do psychedelics with the most annoying person you've ever met in your life?

Where it's never, it's never like, oh, my girlfriend who I love love wants to try.

It's always like

this person has been at two parties that you have also been to, and nobody else will do psychedelics with them.

And maybe there's a good reason.

Now, I'm...

Hey, brother, we'll just go to a fucking field and we'll fucking trip.

We won't need anything.

We won't need music.

We will trip and we'll look at the fucking snow.

We don't need water.

We don't need our cell phones.

Let's leave our cell phones because it's going to like fuck up the...

Well,

we learned on Guy's plus about becoming completely self-sufficient where you actually don't need water anymore

I thought this was the solar thing where people just stand in the sun and they're like that's my first meal of the day oh no that's not it's not that crazy bullshit it's where you drink your pee and eat your poo and that's fine but not a closed loop system Jack it's a closed loop system where you don't require anything from the outside but in fact you don't act.

That's not totally true, though, because, yeah, you have to plant your poo and then grow things to eat.

Right.

And you run out of pee.

But you drink your pee, but you'll eventually run out.

But you're not going to run out of.

I pee like three times a day.

Oh, I pee like three.

You don't run out of five.

Yeah.

Running out of pee.

I pee like 80 times a day.

So very thought.

The first time I did LSD was when I was 12.

I was in the sixth grade going into

the age.

And And maybe that's judgment, but to do LSD at age 12.

Yeah.

One time somebody asked me, like, what were you trying to get away from when you were 12?

Like, what

stresses of the world were you dealing with at 12 years old?

That you needed to get it even crazier.

But I'll tell you why.

I believe you did have stresses during your life.

Well, I mean, just as far as your family and stuff goes, right?

I think maybe a little bit.

No, my parents don't love me.

That doesn't mean there was like stressors or anything.

It was just a neutral situation.

Yeah, yeah, fair enough.

I just think, I think you give yourself a little bit of credit.

I think people say that a lot, like, what are you trying to escape from at that age?

But it's like, you do have, you know, that are in.

Yeah, you have stuff going on in your life that, like, for you

feels that important or whatever.

It's all you know.

And so, yeah, I think, hey, Brian, what I'm saying is, I think you are totally justified taking LST at the age of 12.

I wanted to try.

I think you're right to do it.

I'll tell this story.

So, like, what happened is when I was probably 11 or 12,

this,

my friend Aaron, my rival, my generational rival.

Yeah, the guy who was, you guys are fighting for power of the violence.

Okay.

Yeah.

Of course.

So anyway, my friend Aaron, his sister

was like 16.

She was like not mature enough to know you shouldn't give 11 and 12 year olds drugs, right?

Yeah.

So she'd be driving around smoking a a joint with her boyfriend or whatever, and she'd drive to where we were hanging out at the playground and be like, You guys want the rest of this joint?

She'd go to the playground.

She would literally go to the playground and offer drugs to school children.

Yeah, I mean,

after school hours, by the way.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, of course.

Otherwise, I would imagine some of the schools.

Otherwise, there's no kids at the playground.

They're all in school.

So you have no one to offer.

And if it's lunchtime, there's going to be possibly school administration around teachers and stuff that could potentially get you in trouble.

So one day, the first time this happens, she drops the joint off

to Aaron.

He has it.

And it's a roach.

So not everybody's going to get a hit of this roach.

And I started crying when I didn't get a hit of the roach.

Stamping your foot, tears coming down your face.

It was really like somebody took one of my toys.

It's a woach.

I mean,

it's so funny.

Why do I get a hit of a woach to fight the idea that you're yeah you're so young doing drugs that you're like crying and slamming your fist out

i wanted to cook it you know like yeah you're like yeah that i love that idea so then she teaches us all about acid we don't know it's called lsd at the time it's just acid

and as soon as so what she tells me it tells what we find out somehow i don't know how we found this out is that when you take acid your brain bleeds and drips on your spine and then when you're done it scabs up and then any time in life that scab can break open and you can trip again and we're like well that's fresh is that you thought that was true it's not true at all i thought it was true

but you thought what a video game weapon does that's like the cerebral bore from turok like like melts your brain um i i don't know that didn't deter you that didn't deter you from no it made me want it more flashbacks the idea of having more flashbacks and just no it's just a thing called acid that makes my brain bleed and drip onto my spine.

I thought it was the actual coolest thing you could ever possibly do.

I see.

Wow.

Okay.

That would be really scary to me, I think, at that age.

I think if I yeah, yeah, yeah.

To be cool, I think that would be scary to me now if someone said you're bleeding all over your spine inside your body.

I mean, when I hear brain, spine, bleed, blood, brain, it's just those are all of the things together make me so scared.

And I think that's okay to say.

I don't think that makes me a weak person.

I thought it sounded awesome at that age.

Now, if I had never heard it at that age and I just heard it now, I'd be like, oh, that's concerning.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know what I mean?

No, no, I get that.

I think we all feel the same way now.

I just mean, even at that age, I think that would have been one of the scariest things that I had ever heard.

In fact, I might have even been more scared of it as a child.

Yes, yeah, yeah, yes.

Not me.

Because I would have been a child.

I keep thinking about like children doing what adults do when they take psychedelics.

And

it's so like it's so fascinating.

Like the idea of like a 12-year-old taking mushrooms and then 20 minutes later being like,

it's all bullshit.

Like, like, like, it's a huge realization for them.

Like, it's, everything's fucking bullshit.

It really didn't.

It was so like, I mean, I remember like five things from the day.

And like, they're all like stuff that you would never do on psychedelics.

Now, I remember there was this guy named Jeremy who we called Lord Helmet because he had a huge head.

And we used to give him fake drugs all the time.

So we would give him like birth control and like Tylenol and just be like, oh, look at you.

Laxative.

He'd just take it all.

God loved drugs.

And so, so, so, I mean, you were doing pretty serious bullying to this.

I was going to say,

I was going to say, like, he was part of the

crew.

He was part of the crew.

Okay.

Okay.

So you as well.

The crew was really horrible.

The crew was really horrible to each other.

That was like part of it, DBJ.

You have to understand.

They would give Brian purple nurples and like

it being bullying.

Like when you open with, obviously this child had the head of an elephant and he was sort of deformed and we would feed him poisons until he sort of freaked out.

Yeah.

But he was a friend.

But he was a friend.

But he was our dear friend.

I would do anything for him.

But he would break into our houses when we weren't home and like steal our video games and our video systems.

So it was just kind of like a back and forth.

Well,

with a head that large,

you're always looking for input.

Like,

because your brain is just seeking calculations.

So obviously, he needed more video games.

No.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

He's the guy.

I don't know if I've ever told this, but he bought a pair of shoes thinking they were Jordans.

But they weren't Nikes.

They were LA gear and they were the Michael Jackson shoes.

But they're MJs.

MJs.

He got some sick MJs.

He walks in in saddle shoes with the fucking metal on the bottom.

But instead of like the Jordan logo, it's the feet doing the moonwalk logo on the shoes.

I swear on my fucking life.

I have to say, nowadays, if he held on to those, those would be infinitely better than a pair of Jordans nowadays to have a pair of the Jackson.

I remember finding out about it and it being like honestly the funniest thing that I've ever seen.

So anyway,

the the only thing I really remember heavily from that thing was we were like, I bet you can't, and we're all tripping.

He's tripping, we're tripping, everybody's tripping.

And we're like, I bet you can't spin around in a circle 10 times.

And big ass head.

And he was trying to get him without spinning around.

He's wobbling side to side already.

He's struggling to stand without the spins already.

But he was like, yeah,

I can.

I can do it.

And they were like, 20 bucks.

You know what I mean?

20 bucks you can't spend all the way around.

This money didn't exist, no?

Well, he was never going to.

I'm just going to say he was never going to make it all the way around.

Okay.

Because right around eight, this guy, Mike, walked out and punched him, and he fell back.

What the fuck?

Who's that?

What's going on with the crew?

What the fuck is

Mike up to?

Prison Mike comes up and just fucking lays him out?

What the hell?

Who's his prison Mike guy?

Oh, it's Mike.

I didn't like Mike at all.

I thought Mike was an asshole, but he had really good drugs.

Like, he was able to get in his parents' medicine cabinet and get some real stuff.

Yeah.

But he was.

He kind of was a guy that was hanging around.

Mike was an asshole.

He didn't ever give any poison to the big head kid.

He totally marshed the vibe.

I felt bad that day.

He punched out the big head kid at all.

He did punch out the body.

As he was spinning around, he punched it.

I did feel bad.

But that's a step too far, right?

Internal damage through poisons poisons and sort of hemlock given to this child.

I felt bad about the punch.

So here's the shoes for, I'll make it the picture.

Oh, my God.

So he comes out wearing these shoes and he's like,

I got the Jordans.

Was he far-sighted?

Like,

what was he doing?

It just says it doesn't say Michael Jackson.

It just says MJ.

It says every J, but you must have never seen Jordans in your life, like one time, to be able to identify those.

But it's very funny that those exist with the legs are there.

The logo is the legs.

It's a really funny shoe.

Well, here's a question somebody asked on R slash

rational psychonaut.

Somebody mentioned this sounds like a go-off kings, like, fake name, the rational psychonaut.

It's like a subreddit.

So funny.

Can y'all feel pain on psychedelics?

I took five grams of Syrian roux and afterwards about five grams of mimosa hostilis root bark brewed separately.

During the experience, pain didn't really translate like it normally does.

It was there, but instead of feeling like pain, it felt like the color white.

Would that be considered

now?

Some of these people gotta be fucking around.

I just gotta think some of these people are messing around, coming on these forums and being like, let's fuck with these fucking people.

Pain feels like the color white.

Now, I don't know.

That sounds like some shit some high person would say.

I believe that guy.

I'm very cynical about it.

I oftentimes, I think probably you're right.

That like, I think more times than not, I'm like, I can't believe that this is a real person, but I think a lot of the times I say that it is a real person that is actually saying it.

There's a lot of, and what I would say is there's a lot of people online who will go on to places to fuck with people.

None of them know subtlety at all.

So if it's,

none of them are going to go on and say something that's plausible.

They'll say something.

See, to what I'm saying, to me, that's not even plausible.

I just think that this, yeah, and also just the idea of not feeling pain.

I don't know.

I believe it.

I'll say this.

The last time I did a real heavy mushroom trip

on purpose, I did it accidentally a few times, like a couple years ago, but on purpose, mushroom trip.

Like, you do really think you're seeing things.

It's known as a hallucination.

Right.

I'm saying, though, like, you know, I was like, I had, I remember like having a piece of wood with a 20, with a 24-pack.

Oh, I have a piece of wood.

Yeah.

That's cool that you can still get a piece of wood when you take restrictions.

Sometimes I struggle to get a piece of wood.

Well, I think I forget.

The scariest thing is you take the hit, right?

And then you're like, where's my piece of wood?

Where's

it?

Because it's nowhere to be seen.

But I was talking to a piece of wood because I was trying to get the light on fire.

And I was like, I put a 7-up, the cardboard box, 7-up, 12-pack comes in under the piece of wood.

And I hit it.

And I was like, I can see the molecules.

They just have to join together and this thing will be on fire.

And I just remember thinking that like really heavily and it would never catch on fire.

And it was just like, okay, whatever.

So you do build these things in your mind, these feelings, these thoughts do show up when you do these things.

I agree.

I mean, just to be clear, I mean, I took mushrooms last night.

Awesome.

So just a small, tiny tiny amount of them.

I went to the Vancouver White Calves game, watched them play Pumas.

This dated a little bit is a couple weeks ago when this comes out.

But, yeah.

I'm just saying that I know that

you can see things and have different experiences, but

you feel pain, I think.

I don't know because the rest of this goes, I never hear this get talked about as one of the effects of any, really any psychedelic, but maybe I just haven't looked hard enough.

On a side note, a couple weeks before the Harmala Mimosa combo, I had about 75 milligram weed edible experience without any tolerance.

And during that experience, pain also felt like the color white.

It didn't hurt.

It just felt a little odd and felt like, you know, the color white.

So maybe that had something to do with it.

I know weed dolls pain, but I didn't know it had making me feel like a color.

This might be a unique thing to this person or something like synesthesia?

Isn't that a thing?

Or like, I don't know if that's the name for it, but where you see, smell, color, or whatever.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think that this person maybe has that thing.

Something else that's accompanying their drug use.

Here's the thing.

All human beings have synesthesia for the first like two months that they're alive.

So this could be a newborn infant.

This could be a baby.

I didn't even think about it.

This could be a baby, right?

Because they don't know the difference between like a square and a sound.

Well, I know the difference between a sound.

A square is a fucking Chris.

Okay.

This is my Brian sitting on my cocker here.

He hasn't taken drugs in about, I don't

so anyway.

Uh, the reason I read this is because the comments, I we have to get into the comments that these guys reply because they're having a serious conversation with each other and they get crazier and crazier once you get into the comments, right?

So, this person goes, That's pain normally, just without that's pain normally just without fear.

Bright sense.

I learned this while sitting in the ER with a burned arm for a few hours.

Well, in the ER, it's really bright and white.

I think that's what you experience.

He goes, I went in the ER with a burned arm for a few hours.

It's just a feeling.

Pain smells like bleach.

It smells like bleach and chemicals.

And there's all sorts of beeping sounds.

It sounds like a guy saying, oh, so what happened?

You know, what are your symptoms?

He goes, it's just a feeling.

It doesn't have to be bad or hurt.

A year later, I've noticed that pain can feel euphoric in a way.

It's all about perspective, what the bright feeling.

What is this?

This butterball?

Is this pinned?

Who the fuck is this?

I mean, this sounds like a smashing.

You're talking about like smashing.

This guy seems like he's getting into BDSM.

Getting into BDSM because, yeah, there is

pain and pleasure shit.

Yeah, there's like it's that line between pain and pleasure teetering.

They're like one and the same thing or whatever.

Well, you were just telling me about something you call the horseshoe theory, right?

Me?

Yeah.

No, that was on a recording that got deleted, so it doesn't actually, it doesn't make sense now.

Yeah, but you did it.

No, but you you did it to me.

But it just now sounds like, and we all know I don't talk about politics on here.

That's well known.

Pain and pleasure are so far apart for me that I can't even imagine like if somebody slaps my dick with a paddle.

They're almost opposite.

I would almost call them opposite.

If somebody slaps my dick with a paddle, I'm not going to be like, oh, that's cool.

That's white.

I will say, ow.

That's white squad.

Yeah, me too.

Psychedelics can certainly distort the senses with incidents of synesthesia being one of them.

But the nature of these distortions varies from person to person, trip to trip, and even moment to moment.

So they end up making for interesting anecdotes.

I disagree, but are not much, they're not of much use otherwise.

I've had extraordinary experiences on psychedelics that I doubt could ever be repeated.

This guy goes, maybe an unhelpful point, but my first thought was that intense pain is often described as white-hot pain.

Wonder if this maps on in any way of your experience.

No, it's always your first instinct, too.

It's not what that is unhelpful, and you shouldn't have said it.

This guy goes, I still feel pain on psychedelics, but it's quality, and my relationship to it changes.

Pain takes on a sort of sweet quality, and I no longer resist it.

I no longer resist it?

Yeah.

You should resist it.

That's the fucking thing that tells you not to die.

Yeah, that's a human.

That's a thing that

keeps us.

It's a survival thing.

And then finally, Lusog20 goes.

I haven't tried it intentionally, LOL, but I've noticed that my body feels more like a vehicle for my brain.

And I can feel how the pain is just a signal sent from the nerves and not a real threat.

I remember thinking once when tripping, like, I could cut my thumb off and it wouldn't risk my life.

The pain is

a signal my body sends to the brain to inform of danger.

I don't know if that answers the question, but you can't.

Are these people characters from like an anti-weed PSA from 1950?

Like, what if they talk?

The idea that they're taking this and they're being like, what if I just cut my fucking thumb off?

Like, these people are talking like they're about about to walk into the Panera bread bread oven and close the door behind them.

Yeah.

Just to see.

It would not be,

guys, if we didn't go to r slash psychonaut and see psychedelic orgasms.

Has anyone ever had an orgasm while in psychedelics without touching themselves or someone else touching them?

Okay, hang on a second.

This really changed it.

I was going to say definitely yes, but

a no-touch orgasm?

I've only heard of those, I'm afraid to say.

Those are legend.

Those are a thing of legend in my household.

Can I ask something?

What percentage of episodes include, like, is it 100%

of interests, like types of guys are also sexual about it?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

They are all sexual.

It's 100%.

You can go to their subreddit.

There's words you can search to find.

Like, if you search erotic on a subreddit, You're going to find like

people saying it.

And like, the funny thing is, I searched erotic, and and it was so funny because the first thing that came up was this guy saying, Me and my wife have an erotic date this weekend, and we're taking five hits of acid each.

Do you think that's a good thing?

They have an erotic date.

Yeah, I had a solar erotic date, and it killed me.

So, this guy goes, I've gotten really close on two occasions.

Once while listening to Prince on five to seven hits of Swiss LSD, and another while listening to Bjork on a five-gram psilocybin tea.

So, so wait, on a just so five grams of mushrooms, listening to Bjork, this guy almost had a no-touch orgasm.

All right.

All right, man.

Chris is writing it down.

Oh, no.

Bjork

like a recipe, like he's watching Julia Child.

I don't want to have a no-touch orgasm.

Just to be clear, I don't want to have that sounds awful.

Coming is disgusting.

No, it's not disgusting.

I just want to do it.

I just want to be in control of it or be with someone else doing it.

I don't want it to just be going on.

You'd still be in control.

It's not like you're being attacked by a sonic weapon.

Are you kidding me?

You think I'm in control if my freaking dick is coming and I'm not touching it?

That is

not.

You can turn off Bjork whenever you want, okay?

You have control over it.

It's going to crawl back up in there when I turn Bjork off.

Yeah, but you can feel it coming.

Okay.

I'm not going to argue this.

Listening to Skytree two tabs deep gave me my most orgasmic feeling to date.

It felt like the music was actually fucking my ears and the warm jizz of self-acceptance dribbled down my throat.

oh

actually fucking my ears literally fucking my ears and and also and the warm jizz of self-acceptance dribbled down my throat and then the next thing goes so poetically erotic that's like this

is this an erotic forum no this is psycho not this is r slash psycho not i want to i want to find a guy on here who's like i was listening to sugar hill gang and i cummed so hard i had to throw out my pants.

Like, well, like something, but, but, like, embarrassing music that isn't sexual at all.

Like, what?

Sugar Hill Gang.

I think you could have sex to that.

What's the least sexual music?

So, Brian.

Have you ever heard a young good?

Y-U-N-G-G?

I would say the music Brian listens to is probably the least sexual music.

Corn or limp biscuit, probably.

That would be the least sexual.

I think there's a genre of person for whom that's very sexual.

I'm thinking.

Somebody might have had sex to corn in this call.

Maybe like Metal Core, but maybe that's like personal.

Revenge Sevenfold.

Yeah.

Actually, that's kind of sexy a little bit, too.

Even any music that's not sexy, I feel like to some people, every type of music is sexy.

Glenn Miller, take the A-train.

Yeah, I'm sure someone's getting horny to that.

I would say every music makes someone horny.

Every bit of popular music makes someone horny.

I can find music from 100 years ago that will prove you wrong.

I don't want to.

Hello, my darling.

No touch orgasm.

Like marching songs.

Buddy, you play it for me and just take a look at how short my pants get.

This guy goes listening to Young Good on five and a half Swiss LSD tabs.

I watched myself having sex as one of the blue people.

I always see when I do DMT.

It was in third person and really trippy.

Watching my soul getting it on.

Never orgasm, but the lust and desire I felt was more powerful than any physical orgasm I've ever had on any cocktail of drugs.

Powerful stuff.

Like he has it.

Powerful.

Imagine yourself as one of the blue guys that you see when you take DMT.

Is that what he said?

Is that what he said?

Yeah, okay.

He fucked one of the blue guys.

He didn't say who he was fucking.

He said he was.

Oh, he said, I fucked one of the blue guys.

He fucked one of the guys.

He said,

I'm watching myself having sex with one of the blue people I always see when I do DMT.

So he is

having a bunch of marshmallows in their mouth, too, and it was really funny.

He's watching playing.

He's

third person of himself

having sex with a little blue guy uh-huh did he say little is it a small blue man i think they're more i think the dmt

guys

because you do see dmt guys that's like a very famous thing when you do dmt there's these elves that you see and you can talk to them and stuff like that this is a known this is a known entity

a gnome entity yeah

very known it is they talk about like,

I think they, they call them like the trolls or something.

I've never done DMT because I'm terrified of it.

I have not done that.

That's the one I'm a.

It's a god molecule.

It's a god molecule.

Yeah.

It is the god molecule.

We do have a certain guy talking about DMT to listen to if we want to a little later.

Guy goes, inhaled a canister of nitrous while tripping on a plethora of psyches, MDMA, MDA, ketamine, and 4ACO DMT.

Hey, chill, man.

Hey, buddy, chill out.

This is the guy.

This is the, and I've been this guy, but for me, it's like when I, you know, I open one bag of chips and then I'm like, I kind of want some of this other kind of chips too.

And you end up opening three or four bags of chips.

It's like, they're all going to go stale, dude.

Because I closed my eyes and it started at a point in the center of my vision, spread symmetrically outwards in the most beautiful colors.

And it felt like the core of my mind and body was an absolute intense ecstasy.

So maybe if you try that combination of drugs, Chris.

Yeah, if you take MDMA.

No, no touch.

If you take MDMA, aka ecstasy,

which it used to be known as, and is like known as the drug that would make guys like tongue kiss their friends and stuff, I think that, yeah, that that is a thing that will, it's like known to make you super horny for sure.

This guy goes like ecstasy.

That doesn't sound right.

The drug called ecstasy makes you horny?

That's the whole thing.

That's the entire thing of it.

It's like known as this lovey, like super like, so yeah, any combination of drugs with that, I totally believe will make you outrageously horny.

Yeah.

Well, let's get to,

we're going to read our first trip report, but we got to, I got to set up context for the trip report.

Okay.

Um, we also have that satanic loss prevention guy who took 30 hits of acid.

We'll probably get to later.

Oh, shit.

You have that?

That guy that I found?

That's that guy is.

That's cool for him to make it to a main episode because that guy originally was found on Chris's video of the week.

A very it's called Chris and Brian's Video of the Week now.

Just because you brought one video one time.

Oh, no, you're claiming it because you play the videos, technically, right?

Because it's actually Brian and Chris's, but I'm being nice by letting it be Chris's videos.

Alphabetically, it would be Brian and Chris.

Thank you.

I agree.

But it's a segment I came up with.

Yeah, because they're much stronger than him.

Yep.

We're doing video.

I don't think

he's stronger than me, just to be clear.

He's cutting my name off.

Yeah.

Well, it's so confusing with all those, like, you can't even track what's going on in the segment, right?

Yeah.

People are trying to figure it out and i'm just like

i play the video so why don't i just call brian's yeah so anyway you know hey you know what you know what man you take it it's cool but i don't want to uh this guy goes uh on dmt cobra laser face says uh convince my wife that it's okay I had the opportunity to try DMT with a friend of mine who shares an interest in psychedelics.

After some misguided experiences when I was young, I'm in a routine of a couple LSD or mushroom trips per year.

I'm 39 years old.

My wife and I have been married for 17 years.

I'm honest with her about everything.

She had never experienced psychedelics, but she's always supportive.

In my presence, when I've done acid or mushrooms, I don't know how to tell her about DMT.

I don't know how to make her understand.

So this guy has a problem.

He wants to do DMT.

He has a chance to do DMT.

And his wife is nervous about it, which is crazy.

You're not going to be able to do that.

Right.

So

my advice is take a bunch of DMT

and then hang out with your wife and reveal two hours in.

I guess you didn't even notice that I'm on DMT right now.

Well, the good thing is

all you have to do is act normal.

She's been texting with her mom trying to get an escape route for the past hour because you've been acting so fucking crazy.

I mean, DMT is only 15 minutes.

You didn't even realize I was on DMT, my lady.

She's already got her stuff packed as she's leaving.

No, I'm talking to the TV.

Like, I'm talking to Ab Coulter on the TV.

I do want to say, Brian, that, like, I don't think it's crazy for the wife to be concerned about him taking DMT.

You're like, you're not going to die on DMT, but I think it can, it has made people really fucked up afterwards, potentially.

And it could change them, you know?

Like, so I don't know.

I think if you have a partner that you've been married to for 17 years, then they're like, I want to take this

fucking shit.

Crazy

Joe Rogan likes to take.

I think they're allowed to be like, are you sure that's a good idea, honey?

This next guy, for his advice, says, read her this trip, send her this trip report.

So I went to it.

It's forum.dmt

slash nexus.me.

This is from Gulliver's Travels.

And he goes, so it's been a while since I was here, but it's time I told these to someone.

It's been months since I went, almost seven now, but I have my good reasons for not wanting to rush back in.

My first four rides through hyperspace were amazing, eye-opening, and mostly what I would call good trips.

the next three were not the same not by a long shot as i took my fifth ride everything changed that is when i met the jester for the first time

oh no he immediately spoke that's what my dad calls me

i mean that's often what they call like like stand-up comedians these days the modern day the modern day court jester well not even to me there's so much more than that and they have such an important uh you know voice in today's They're the real people, the only last people left who can actually truly tell the truth.

They're the philosophers, right?

Oh, they're the modern philosophers.

Yes.

Socrates, I wonder if he would get heckled.

Oh, actually, he did by the entire Senate.

Socrates, yes, suck on these, you know, is what a comedian might say.

And he might say that.

Huge amounts of applause.

So, yeah, here he goes.

He goes,

so he goes,

hold on.

I found.

John has to talk about that.

John has to talk about stand-up comedians for a while.

Oh, we love it.

So he goes, he was speaking.

He immediately spoke to me as I went into the waiting room, not even having broken fully through.

And wow, his presence was strong.

So he calls the lead-up to the trip being in the waiting room.

Right.

So he's like, not fully fucking out of it yet.

He's in the waiting room.

He goes, he was speaking into my mind directly almost instantly.

I knew what he was and had an image of him in my mind, but couldn't actually see him.

Come to think of it, I'm not sure I ever actually have ever actually seen him.

Well, that makes sense because he doesn't exist.

That much makes me like confident in this guy.

Yeah, I'd say you definitely didn't.

You definitely didn't see him because he doesn't exist.

The jester does not, he's not real.

And I really want people to understand that this guy is telling a guy that's trying to convince his wife that he wants to do DMT.

Let him do what he says.

And he goes,

he goes, only the image of him.

He wants in my mind.

He shows you that he wants you to see.

He immediately told me that he thought I was faking it, the trip, and repeatedly asked, are you faking it?

Then he shifted to, here, you should look at this in my hands as he was showing me a shape that was utterly impossible.

Watching color and light.

This is my favorite guy so far.

This is my favorite guy so far who's like, sit me down with your wife.

And then if you actually sat him down with your wife, he would go, so basically, you're only going to get an idea of the jester.

You'll never actually lay eyes on him.

And

he's going to accuse you of faking.

I love you.

He will not believe you.

And of course, as he shows you shapes you've never seen before, you'll realize he's from another dimension.

Watching color and light invert and warp into colors and patterns I've never seen before.

Impossible shapes.

Geometry that was only able to be perceived in that place.

Confusing, captivating, and ever in motion on the surface.

Letters Letters and numbers from multiple languages dancing on the surface of the object.

I found myself thinking, if I could only take this thing back out with me into the real world, they would all understand everything.

So now he wants to bring the jester with him out into the real world.

No, he just wants to bring the object of the jester.

He wants to bring the jester's talisman out so we can all understand the shapes and colors.

He wants the jester's.

Yeah, he's like, I'll leave the jester here if you just give me the

jester metric.

Yeah, he can do his own shit.

and also you know I haven't even seen him so but but

he goes then I started to coming out of it and the world here reappeared in a blocky pixelated version of itself like living in Minecraft the campfire I had lit earlier was not sharp and pointed tips but blocky and coming off in large chunks at the top The effect took a good while to come out of and was somewhat disorienting.

Even the people I had nearby looked blocky and undefined for close to 15 minutes.

After waiting several days and digesting the experience with the jester, I decided to go back for number six.

I had a friend with me, as always, to watch me, keep eyes on breathing, catch the pipe, etc.

As soon as I went all the way in for this ride, there was the jester waiting for me.

Of course, you know his ass is going to be there.

Yeah.

You know his ass is going to be there.

Of course he's there.

He's fucking been waiting for you the whole fucking time.

He's wondering where

you've been.

He's like, dude, you fucking ditched me.

You dude, he likes to be a bitch.

I was showing you my talisman and you fucking pieced out.

What happened?

That was only the beginning part of it.

It doesn't even make sense if I only show you the beginning part of it, man.

It was like fucking step one of 10, bro.

Dude, you don't understand the geometry because you left.

Yeah, dude.

I don't know what the fuck is that.

And I'll basically show you how to understand the geometry like five minutes after the time that you left.

I love that.

I told the other people in here, I told them about the geometry after you left, and they're like, he's going to be pretty mad that he left.

I love the idea of the jester being mad that you pieced out before he got to do his whole thing.

Yeah,

he's like, okay, step seven is I hold up a hand mirror and you see that you're actually the jester, and that would have been awesome for you.

And we didn't even get there.

So

the bookend, it's just like, you wonder, you probably wondered why I said that thing at the beginning.

Yeah, it fucking makes sense after that.

It would have been a perfectly circular idiot.

Perfect, man.

And it's like, all of a sudden, I fucking turn around, I go, and I get literally just go to get a glass of water.

And I turn around and you are gone.

And you're gone.

Because he told me as much, stating, I've been here waiting since you last came and I have more to show you.

Oh my God.

I said it.

I swear to god.

I swear I have not read this.

I have no idea.

This is the first time.

You wouldn't have ever been able to.

This is like a

on

top of a thing.

You know what I mean?

He goes,

as he grabbed my head and started forcing images into my mind mind that I could not resist.

All right, interesting phrasing.

He then returned my attention to the impossible shape and said, here, let me show you the inside down and upside right.

As he turned his reality inside out and morphed the space into impossible shapes and colors, I couldn't even ever imagine.

He then started doing what he called turning color inside out and made sure to mention C.

Isn't it fun?

But he isn't fun.

He is having fun at my expense.

Wait, wait, wait, hang on, hang on.

That's the jester's privilege.

The jester's privilege.

The jester.

Don't first get it.

Don't get on him for this.

Yeah, relax.

His name's fucking the jester.

He's obviously going to poke a bit of fun.

Have fun with it.

Learn a lot.

You didn't think he was going to make fun of you?

Yeah, you didn't think he was going to have a little fun.

It sounds like the stuff that he's doing is very mild stuff as well.

He's very tame by jester standards.

He hasn't done any like, oh, take a seat right here, pulling the chair out, that type of stuff where you fall in your bum.

None of that stuff.

It's very

none of the look into my telescope and it gives you a black eye because you put ink on the telescope.

He hasn't done that.

He hasn't even said, I bet you can't spin around in a circle.

At that time I noticed that he had a huge head, the gesture had an enormous head.

The gesture.

And he started asking me to feed him hemlock.

He goes, but he isn't fun.

He's having fun at my expense.

His goal seems to be to confuse my mind and try to push reality further from the forefront of my mind.

If you were a beachgoer sleeping on a float, he would be that that guy that would come by and kick you out to sea.

I don't know who that guy is, and I don't know

what experiences this guy's had.

It's not like that.

I don't think that's a regular thing where you're on a raft near the

shore.

So beaches have the lifeguard, and then they have the anti-lifeguard.

The death guard.

The death guard.

Yeah.

And they wear all black.

They wear all black.

Yeah, they're like wearing this.

They're like a lifeguard, but instead of red, it's all black.

And they are trying to kill you.

Yeah, and they've got brass knuckles on spiked knuckles yeah they're bruisers they're bruisers right that's true but he isn't he goes again after this was over i waited about a week to try again hoping at this point that he wouldn't be there and that another peaceful experience would be mine

but waiting for the jester to leave

buddy you're going you're going to the only place you can see him just don't go there if you don't want to see him i love the idea that he's like hey you know if i leave for a week, maybe the jester will get bored and just go somewhere else.

You're trying to time it like you're trying not to see an ex.

Like

you don't want to see the jester.

He's not.

Yeah, he's not going to wait a week.

He's like hiding.

He's like hiding in his house like when somebody comes to knock on your door to get you to switch your gas company or something.

Seventh time was not the charm, unfortunately.

Again, he was there.

And this time he had nearly total control.

of me of my perception and even my body.

I was sitting in a chair facing the back of my farm, looking off into the woods of the property next to mine.

As I slipped out and was again in his space, he immediately took over my body and started working me like a puppet.

He said, here, let's try something more fun this time.

Open your eyes and they opened to a totally normal view of the forest in front of me, nearby baseline, nearly baseline in appearance.

Now close your eyes and the trees and landscape instantly changed into a porcelain ground with trees and grasses and plants made of flesh and dripping with blood throbbing and growing before my eyes.

It got scary.

Porcelain ground is, I mean, that sounds delightful.

Sounded cool and then it got it.

Tinkling as you walk across it, but the blood trees, I don't know.

He goes, stand up.

And I shot up from my chair.

What's his eye?

Stand up.

You say, stand up?

Chris, you want to tell me?

Oh, yeah.

They only.

Because the media can't, you know, they've got it.

They're the only ones that can.

The reason is they frame it like it's a joke, but they're really telling the truth.

And the nightmare is that your jester is a stand-up.

Like, you fucking take your dmt and tony hinchcliffe is in

your jester is fucking is straight up 90s era dennis miller laying you out like yeah yeah yeah yeah that was

he goes uh then he showed me the forest normal and then again as the flesh forest dripping and globby just to make sure i got it just

he was like he was like just you know you get it right you get what i'm doing

you saw it the first time right you weren't like looking the other way

Because after this, he lost his grip on me and I was able to come out of it, opening my eyes and to shake the Blood Forest image as quickly as possible.

It stayed with me when I closed my eyes for about five to ten minutes, then baseline.

I've only tried to go back one other time since, and not even at the waiting room, I could hear him taunting me from the other side, waiting for me to pop in so he can play.

So he's just like...

He hears him in the waiting room, and the jester's like, look who comes back, crawling back.

It sounds to me like it really, there's no more to this.

Is that the end of it?

There's just a tiny bit more.

Okay, but, but just, it's, it's really sounded like it was like a movie, and we were getting to him saying that in the end he was the jester, right?

Because he's like, he was like, right, doesn't that seem like the natural conclusion to this story?

Yeah, and then he's the jester, and then like, that's like a part of himself, which obviously he is, right?

Because it's like, it's just tapping into his mind.

So it's like some part of himself that's awesome.

And anyway, make sure to tell that to your wife.

Make sure to let your wife.

Tell your wife all that.

Hey, Ariel.

And she'll let you do it.

Ariel, let me just explain.

Can you read this?

And then just tell me what you think.

Can you read this?

Because I was going to do this to me.

I wanted this to happen to me.

Is that okay?

You know how you were saying that I should get more friends and stop hanging out by myself so often?

Well,

yeah, I might have a new friend lined up.

My man,

the jester.

So we get some replies.

This person goes, sure is.

It's interesting how how people will turn terrifying trip reports into some necessary lesson for themselves.

It's hard for me to parse it as anything other than avoiding the potential that something really is evil on the other side.

But hey, it's not the worst default attitude.

Then this guy responds and goes, you sound jealous and pathetic.

You're just asking a question.

Go jack yourself on a beach or something, ask

things.

That's really evil.

Wait, wait, wait.

Why did he?

I'm confused.

Why would he?

That's all the context.

That's the thing.

I posted that comment online.

You're like, like, what's the context here?

Is it Joe Rogan?

I was like, no.

The context is

a guy asked if his wife, if he, how to get his wife to let him do DMT.

A guy responded with a scary chirp report.

And then another guy said, like, you know, you don't really have to tell her about scary trip reports.

Because it's not some like badge of honor.

And then a guy goes, you sound jealous and pathetic.

He's just asking a question.

Go jack yourself on a beach or something, asshole.

Thanks.

So that's all.

On a beach on a beach, Like in public or private beach?

Well, there's some beaches where you can do that.

Are there?

Yeah.

No, I don't want to go to that.

If it's a private beach, if it's your own private beach where it's secluded, I would imagine it's fine.

It's different.

There's different levels.

It's like one of those color wheels with the arrow where it's like, and I'm pretty sure the way the red is jack.

There's no nude beaches where you can jack.

I assume that's a good thing.

There's jack safe beaches.

There's jack safe beaches.

He's the only person here, I'm sure, on the call who has been to a nude beach.

That's extremely presumptuous of you.

If you really believe that.

that, yeah, obviously it's true.

Obviously, it's true.

Yeah, so I would say that it's definitely a no-jack zone.

You cannot, you can't even be

to.

I've only been to one.

And it's a nude, it's like a famous one in Vancouver, Wreck Beach.

Shout out to Wreck Beach.

But you can't.

It's the same as we learned about it in the nudist community that it's very frowned upon to get a award.

You're telling me there's no beach on the planet that's jack safe.

There's not one beach where they're like, okay, you can make a hole in the ground.

Yes.

I will say there is one, and it's in

Jamaica.

Jesse.

Yes, that's true.

Jesse's writing up a business plan right now.

It's called a Jackson.

It's called

Hedonism.

Like a sex club will have a beach where I'm sure you can jack off.

All right, let's read a couple.

Before we check in with this guy, because this is Chris's guy.

He's a loss.

Jesse, he's a loss prevention guy.

He's also Satan.

He's also Satan.

Yeah, he's very cool.

Yeah.

I mean, you know,

I have a personal vendetta against loss prevention guys.

Me too.

We all do.

Well, I don't know.

I have a good friend of mine named George who sort of changed my mind on them.

He's sort of one of the good ones, I guess.

He's, yeah, I mean, you know, he met his wife there.

DBJ, you got it.

Listen, I won't bring it up because we talk about it so much, but I'll send it to you afterwards.

This guy, this loss prevention officer, he's the best.

He goes undercover.

He's the best, man.

He

married his store manager.

He married his store manager.

Which is beautiful, actually.

I will do anything for you, Queen.

I am your knight in service.

You have no idea how close to you.

No idea.

How accurate.

I know these guys.

I know exactly how that fucking thought process works.

So this guy asks, has anyone ever cheated on their girlfriend or boyfriend or husband or wife while on LSD?

Nobody's ever done that.

Oh, okay.

Also, if you've cheated and reflected about it while on LSD, what was that like as well?

This guy.

I would imagine people have done it.

Oh, they have.

Has anybody ever cheated on their partner while they were doing drugs?

Yes.

While they were

while they were doing something that lowers their inhibitions.

Yeah, I think that...

Has anybody drank wine while cheating on their husband?

I mean, yeah,

it's not, I think that it just happens.

So you're going to have it happen.

I don't think the drugs have anything to do with it.

Is that kind of how they're trying to say?

Well, yeah, did you take drugs and get so fucked up that you didn't realize you're doing it?

Like, yeah.

He's asking, if so, what was the experience going into the situation like during and the energy and repercussions afterwards?

How did this affect your life and people around you?

Probably not great.

So the first reply goes, I can truly say that my actions have always reflected my virtues while using psychedelics like shrooms or LSD.

Alcohol use, on the other hand, is a lot more insidious in that regard.

They all talk like this, by the way.

It's amazing.

Then the reply is like, this is something interesting to extrapolate on.

Yeah.

And the next guy goes, gonna be brutally honest here.

I did the cheating not under the influence, but later tripped and reflected so hard I had to confess to my partner the same day.

We still together because the bond is really strong.

And I was just a stupid young cunt.

Would never do that again to anyone.

LSD cured me from such a sad behavior, making sure my partner will only get the best from me now.

This is something we haven't talked, we haven't really touched on at all is this idea that seems very out there, and I don't know what to think about it, of doing psychedelics and it fixes your personality in some way or it helps you.

That's one of the things that made this episode a little hard for me to do is that I did psychedelic therapy and it 100% worked.

And you feel like it's like a huge improvement, like it has made a huge positive impact.

Because I've heard other good things.

I'm not outside of it.

But it's ketamine.

It's a clinical ketamine treatment.

You know what I mean?

It's like there's a person giving me the ketamine and I'm just sitting in a room.

And the thing is, like, you know, you're supposed to do it one or two times a year or something like that.

I never did that.

So it doesn't work like right now, but it worked for like a year or two after where I didn't have the anxiety that I had before.

I also didn't.

find myself during these ketamine treatments.

I wasn't like sitting, I like,

I was actually surprised it worked because I didn't feel like I had any breakthroughs or anything like that.

I just felt like I was fucked up listening to a ketamine playlist in an office while the lady just shot me up with more and more ketamine, you know?

Which you loved, I'm sure, on its own, like just on a different level.

You just enjoyed that experience, probably.

Yeah, yeah.

Well, the first thing I said to her.

When she first started, because I thought you were supposed to talk.

Apparently, you're not supposed to talk.

Well, you can talk, talk, but they're like, they told me I talked more than anybody they've ever had in your life.

Congratulations, that doesn't sound right.

Brian, that doesn't sound right.

Something else must have been going on.

That's really well, the issue.

You don't seem very talkative at all.

The issue was, I wasn't there to interrupt your ass every 15 seconds.

We could steal your thunder.

And the first thing I say to this lady is, I'm going to be honest with you.

I think all this stuff's hippie bullshit.

You pulled the this is all bullshit.

Like you went there immediately.

I had that feeling.

I legitimately spoke to a person who had done it and they were like, it worked.

And I was like, bullshit, but I'll do it because it's drugs.

I can go do drugs.

Yeah, that's what I was going to say.

It's not hard to convince you to go somewhere and take a bunch of drugs.

That's what I'm saying.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

They're like, oh, it worked.

And then when I went there in my mind, I was just going there to do drugs.

You know what I mean?

Like somebody had said it worked, but I was just going there to do drugs.

And then I go there and do it.

And it, like, I didn't, like I said, I didn't have any thought.

I didn't have a jester.

I didn't have any of that stuff happen.

I didn't have a touch of sorghasm.

Fucking jester.

Was the jester straight no show, too?

He did.

I'm not important enough for the jester.

No, honestly, that's good, I think.

The jester and me and T.

Yeah, he's mean.

He's mean, yeah.

So he's part of the crew.

He's part of the goo crew.

He's part of the goo crew?

Not the goo crew.

No, the crew.

Brian's crew.

It's like, holy fuck, if the jester got in before us.

Good God.

Well, he made a big, the jester made a big investment in our survival buckets program.

Yeah.

So he made like a $100,000 initial investment.

I think he only streams on kick, to be honest.

I don't think he does, Twitch.

I don't know that he's on kick anymore.

This guy goes, 1983, Florida.

Did a girl on the hood of my car over in Doc Swin Street.

Later, only three minutes.

Ha ha ha.

Thank God

no regrets, though.

I mean, how close really are we to it when we're 18?

Girlfriend really is.

GF was on women's swim team, bye, tripping balls.

I doubt she would have cared too much.

She probably would have just got some straight D right there.

That would have been fair enough.

So

if she had a found out that he railed this girl on the top of his T-Bird or whatever,

she says she would have just got sexy.

Got some D.

Some D right there.

Yeah, this guy's cool.

He might not be 18 anymore, but he's still trying to talk like he is, definitely, which I expect a lot.

Well, he's definitely not 18 anymore.

It's happened in 1983.

But then a guy goes, this comment is crass.

And

I kind of agree with him about the doing a girl or whatever.

And then he replies and goes, Bottom line, no offense to you, Metro Mellon.

I'm sorry if it hit you wrong.

Any bag of fruit, it's going to have apples and oranges peace

that's i'm gonna start saying that every day of my life

i'm going to start saying every bag of fruit has apples and oranges which a is not correct not true

very few of them have both of those very few of them have both they don't usually come together at all in fact most i mean most

Most fruit doesn't come in a bag.

It doesn't come in a bag.

Sometimes it does.

A bag of oranges.

You get a bag of oranges.

Yeah, it's just a bag of oranges.

I mean, it's not.

Yeah, definitely.

Sometimes, if you get the organic stuff, it comes in a bag, but yet it's always separated by fruit.

I'm going to the store.

Do you need anything?

Could you get me a bag of fruit, please?

Fruit bag.

Make sure there's apples and oranges in there.

I know it's not hard.

What do you mean of course?

Of course there's apples.

That's the only kind they have.

Of course, it's going to come with apples and oranges.

It's a matter of what the third fruit is.

We all know a fruit bag is apples, oranges, and a third fruit.

I got to be honest, they should sell apple and oranges, fruit bags.

The kind.

Can I be honest with you?

Currently, those are the two fruits I'm buying a lot of, and I'm buying bags of oranges and bags of apples.

And I would actually benefit from a bag of apples and oranges.

How easy would it be?

How easy would it be?

On this LSD subreddit is like,

we're like, this guy is wise.

He's invented something.

But I just realized there's so many different types of apples and oranges.

So then what are you pairing together then?

Because I'm currently getting, you know, Chinese mandarins and then

honey, like pink lady apples.

So, I'm, you know, you got to get your, I mean, that's case, you got it, you got to get your combos down.

So, there's a bunch of different fruit bags.

I would say, I would say, let's do a pick and mix, right?

It would have to be a pick and mix situation.

Yeah, but I don't want to do any of the, to be clear, I don't want to be picking anything.

No, I want them to be pre-picked for me.

So, I want like something this bag has blood oranges and honey, and uh, you know, Granny Smith or whatever.

And I don't want all the combinations.

All right, let's get to our satanic loss prevention psycho-naut.

And what's wonderful about this opening frame is you see so much life in this man's face.

Just like this sort of sharp intelligence that lets you know you're in for a real treat.

This guy's like.

He worships Satan 100%, you can tell.

Well, and he's also like a lot of the guys I used to, I grew up with.

Even the way he talks.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He looked,

he's like porno sean, kind of.

I'm imagining the transatlantic accent is about to come out.

He's going to talk very, very well, I think.

So one time I accidentally took 30 hits of acid.

Okay, so one time he accidentally took 30 hits of acid.

So that's like a full sheet or something because it comes in like a sheet is 100, but yeah,

I don't mean...

Oh, sorry.

Sorry, Brian.

Brian got really defensive on drug knowledge there.

Sheets is actually 100.

He kind of stood up out of his chair a little bit.

I apologize for saying full sheet.

I just meant that it was like a sheet of it.

Like he took it presumably together, like a big block of it that was a bunch of tabs all stuck together.

Roughly 30 hits.

We don't actually know exactly how much it was.

It was liquid form and an eyedropper, but it was a full eyedropper, you know, a squirt thing of it, full.

And I used to sell acid in high school, so I know about how much is in, I guess, you know, the syringe or the eyedropper.

So I used to put hits on individual tabs like that and on sugar cubes and stuff.

So you're going to get 20 to to 30 hits out of there.

Brian, how did you take it?

It was funny, really.

It was funny that I was like the sheet of it or whatever.

And then immediately on the video, he's like, it was in an eye drop purchase.

Yeah.

Completely showing me to be wrong.

But Brian, how did you take acid when you took it?

Just a tab?

Just paper tab, yeah.

Yeah, like a paper with a thing on it.

Usually two of them.

Anyway, the story goes, is I was working.

I think I'm going to do it this summer.

Really?

I do.

I think I'm going to do it.

I've never done an LSD, just to be clear.

I've only done, I've mentioned it before on the podcast, like LSA, like Hawaiian baby Woodrow's seeds.

Oh, Hawaiian Baby Woodrow's seed.

When you're taking me and Kay, do you want to do LSD together?

Because it's been a long time and it's.

When you're taking psychedelics, is there like, do you go to a specific location or is it like you can only do it in your house?

Okay.

I mean, I think, I like.

What would be the address of the location or the coordinate?

You want to be able to go outside.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

You want to be on the go out.

Yeah, you need to be on the go outside.

Yeah, like explore, right?

It does seem like it would be a bad thing to do in the winter.

Yeah, no, we would never.

I'd do it in the woods during the summer, I think, is what we'll probably end up doing.

I would do it in the winter.

It can be so beautiful in the winter.

I hate the winter.

I came at a place on Mill Avenue in Tempe, Arizona, back when I was like early 20s.

And it was coffee.

I was working at coffee shops.

It's called Coffee Plantation.

I don't think it's there anymore.

Oh, it was on Mill Avenue.

Okay.

And these hippies used to always hang out.

We called them gutter punks back then.

Oh!

Oh!

He takes takes a fucking hit off his smoke.

And his smoke is almost done already.

I want to see what brandy smokes fucking.

He said bees used to always hang out.

We called them gutter punks back then.

Holy shit.

For the people listening, I think it's a Marlboro medium.

I think it's Marlboro, but you can't say for certain.

It's a Marlboro medium.

I'm 100% sure it's a Marlboro medium.

I don't think you can say 100%.

I know what a Marlboro Medium looks like.

Okay.

Okay.

It's got the thing at the bottom.

Like, instead of them printing Marlboro on the actual paper, they stick it, the, the, the, the, um,

the butt goes up a little higher.

Marlborough's, like, printed on the butt, and then they stick the tube cigarette into the thing.

I'm just picturing Brian at a stand, like one of those sneaker stands on YouTube with someone bringing him cigarettes and him, like, showing out their fake Marlboros.

See, the Marlboro, what they do with the thing is they stick it up the butt.

Well, Marlboro Reds are printed right on the paper.

Yeah.

But Marlboro Mediums have a different vibe.

So you can see on yours here, you can see how much different it is on yours right there.

That's how you can tell this is a fake.

I love the Marlboro Corporation, I gotta tell you.

You guys gotta get me on like the lollipop episode or something so I can do this too.

Because I don't know anything about this shit.

You don't know about smoking and drinking and drinking.

But if he whipped out a Tootsie Pop, I'd be like, I know that's a blue raspberry flavor.

That's a blue one, yeah.

Tootsie Pop, blue raspberries.

Well, there's several blue ones at different shades.

I'd be able to identify it, though.

Homeless because of you know, whatever they were young kids, and you know, they're just they're hippies, gutter pucks, and uh, they always had the best drugs.

And anyway, uh, we used to throw out all of our pastries and shit at the end of the night, you know, from the day before, whatever.

And you know, we'd have half a trash bag full of fucking Danishes and croissants and shit.

You know, Piscotti's bullshit.

And uh, Piscotti's ain't bullshit.

Piscotti's bullshit.

And this guy is.

This guy, I will say, he's kind of cool to me.

I like him.

Yeah.

Because he reminds me of home.

I kind of fuck with him so far.

Like, just this style of telling a story is nostalgic of like

so many needless details.

Yeah.

I had a trash bag full of Danishes and quicks.

Who cares?

Who cares about that?

And he's naming more.

He's naming more things.

He's like croissants.

He's like,

he's like, he's racking his brain for like what other kinds of pastries want like i'm about to ask him like i'm about to ask him what else was in the bag wait did they have miscotti it couldn't have just been danishes it must have been something else the reason i think there was something the jester made that you don't even define treats you know what i mean yeah the reason i think he's cool i think is because like He thinks he's cool.

And there's something refreshing about a guy like this, like a 90s style guy who's telling the story.

He's a Grove Pork guy.

I know he's Arizona.

He's from Arizona, but he's a growth pork guy for sure.

You know, I always felt bad about throwing him in the trash.

We're supposed to throw him in the trash.

That's right, baby.

These guys from hanging out, but I like these guys, you know, and it's fucking food we're going to throw away.

Hell yeah.

Yeah, I was sneaking out the back door to them.

Yep.

And anyway, okay.

They're always fucked up.

And I gave him a big bag of pastries and shit.

And he's like, hey, man, open your mouth.

And I was like, what is it?

He's like, you want to fry it tonight, man?

I was like, sure, man.

Let's go.

You know, and he had an eyedropper.

This guy's working.

He's at work.

Yeah.

And these

crush pugs are like, hey, man, you want to fucking fry tonight?

And he's like, yeah, why not?

That's a cool ass attitude.

This rings true for every person I've ever worked with in food service.

If some random fuck came up and said, do you want to be as high as you've ever been in your life?

Yeah.

And you got two hours left on your shift.

Everyone I know who worked at Panera Bread or whatever would say yes.

And just like that.

And I went to the bastard Chuck E.

Cheese a few times, and it was just bonkers being in there fixing games and like, like, dressing as Chucky and also working in the kitchen was just

everybody in the get one night when I was working in the kitchen at Chucky geez everybody did acid in the kitchen and that was fucking wild because there was nobody there like

being normal about everything.

Everybody was fucked up.

It was very fun.

I was working at Pizza Hut for one summer.

I was very young.

I might have been like 19 at the time.

And the entire kitchen staff basically, I think there might have been one or two people who weren't in the loop loop because they were older.

But basically, the entire kitchen staff was friends with each other, and they all did Molly

during the ship.

Weird one to do.

And they offered it to me, and I was like, no, I'm not going.

That sounds insane.

I had more anxiety then than I do now.

So I said, no.

And the weirdest part about it was...

Everyone acted exactly the same as they would otherwise, and it was a totally normal shift.

Even though everybody was on Molly.

Yeah, that's cool.

So they they held it together it was completely uneventful it was boring i was like what's going it felt very strange to me yeah all the pizzas got out of chunky cheese like nobody missed their food or anything like that i just remember it being like intense it was like a saturday night it was really busy and i just remember the whole thing being really intense because i was tripping on ass

said okay ha

you know put it in my mouth and he squirted the whole fucking thing in there i was like

and it actually it wasn't like a drop and then talking with absorbs.

It like hit the back of my throat and I had to swallow it.

That's how much it was.

You know, it was probably like, you know, quarter, half a teaspoonful, whatever.

It was a fucking lot.

And I knew I was in trouble right away.

And it hit me guys like, oh, man, you're going to trip balls, man.

I've been in that.

I have been.

You know what the worst thing is?

We used to go to this movie theater, this budget movie theater.

It was like $1.50 for movies.

My brother worked there.

So we could get in any movie we wanted to.

We would just hop from movie to movie, but we'd be on acid.

And they had a Mortal Kombat 3 machine there, and we loved that game.

So I remember we would

stand there.

We would stand there and play it.

We were very good at it, by the way.

Won some tournaments, whatever.

I'm not bragging, but I just thought it was important to the story.

Yeah.

Won a few tournaments.

But they would come up with a game.

What kind of tournaments?

What kind of tournaments?

Like at Puckputt Golf and Gaming at Quarter Flash, the game room I used to hang out with.

They would have tournaments there and you'd win like $100.

I'll tell you the story about my friend doing

a double flawless friendship victory in

the championship match.

But I don't think you're ready for that.

But yeah, we used to.

Please.

Oh, Brian, please tell me.

We used to do these tournaments.

Don't take it away from me after the tease.

I hate to break it to you, but this story you're about to hear is a 100% lie.

There's no way you won a tournament.

No, I'm not saying I won a tournament.

I'm saying that we were so into that game.

But you're saying we would win tournaments, and by we, you mean other guys?

We had no sense of

anyone else who won a tournament.

Guys in my crew won tournament.

So you're kind of like saying, like, you're part of FaZe Clan, and like, oh, FaZe Clan got a victory here, and you're sort of counting that as a victory for you, even though you didn't play in the match.

I was part of the crew.

I helped them practice.

We used to play each other all the time to show you.

Show your practice.

She had sports with each other.

Your practice squad.

Everybody might not have been out there.

Everyone knows a ring.

Yeah, exactly.

Your practice squad person gets a ring.

That is true.

Yeah.

And so, so we would go and just kind of play on acid.

And like, I don't know why, but Aaron would come up behind you and go,

everyone knows you're tripping like that.

And then just like walk away.

And it would be so intense.

Like, because you're like, I don't want everybody to know I'm tripping.

I'm 16.

Like, I don't want to get in trouble for this.

But yeah, that would freak me out.

Here we go.

Let's listen to this guy who is going to trip balls.

I like the line.

you're going to trip balls.

You're going to trip balls, dude.

I remember that kind of information coming to me and being really like, it's not what you want to hear.

That's not what you want to hear.

Fuck you, asshole.

Anyway,

I knew I was in trouble, so I had to catch the bus home, too.

It sucked.

And so I ran to the bus stop.

Well, on that run, but I walked briskly to the bus stop, hoping that I wasn't going to fucking trip balls before I got home.

Sure as shit.

I started tripping balls before before the bus even got there.

By the time the bus got there, I could barely see.

I mean, you know, and prior to this incident, I had taken probably,

not all at once, of course, spread out, you know, two, three hits at a time, probably over 100, 150 hits of acid.

So I was no.

So here's another thing about that.

For people that didn't grow up in like

with drug people,

the other science thing that comes out that you'll hear a lot, like fake science, like the brain bleeding, dripping on your spine.

Right.

The other science thing is that you're considered legally insane if you've taken 10 hits of acid.

So like we would have like.

So you can never go to prison.

Well, yeah.

And it would be a party.

Like it would be like a really exciting like, oh my God, he's taken his 11th hit of acid.

You know what I mean?

He's capable of it.

Like a bar mitzvah.

Oh, now he's legally insane with me.

Yeah.

Wow.

And we would all celebrate that with each other.

That was one time where we did all get along.

Spring chicken to LSD by any means.

Not a spring chicken.

It's kind of a bit tripod.

Spring chicken.

You know, and I've tripped balls before, but not like this.

You know, when you see like these kaleidoscope images and shit and stuff like that, it's a plane.

It's kind of like what it was.

I mean,

stop down production.

Stop it and re-record it.

I believe this guy lives near very near the airport.

It sounds like

I could not see.

The

stuff wasn't melting, but what it was.

It may be on the car tarmac and the patterns and the geometries of everything just blurred into one.

It was intense.

It was so intense, it was scary.

And that was the first time I've ever been scared of acid because I lost all motor skills.

I lost all my coordination.

I was fucking immobile.

And I was on the bus stop and I couldn't see.

I could not see out the windows because everything was just fucking

just colors just shining, blasting my face.

And everything was just blurring and like melting.

Not melting, but like just, I don't know.

You know how it is if you don't ask it.

Can I say what it's like to be told what a trip was like?

It's identical to somebody telling you about their dream.

Right.

Where it's like, I wish they were bad.

I wish I could care about this the way you care about it, but it's never going to happen.

Well, that's where you almost feel, you almost feel bad because it's like, I wish this was interesting.

Yeah.

I know how interesting it is to you.

Let's go to Quora real quick.

Before we get out of here, Nigel Hewitson answers this question.

What's it like to take LSD at Disney World?

Good question.

Because a lot of people that go to Disney would be like, wouldn't this place be cool on acid dude?

I think that question may be coming from a terrified man in a goofy costume who just made a mistake.

It would not be a spectacular dream-filled fantasy fulfillment, that's for sure.

Many people make the mistake of thinking that combining LSD usage with some particular event will amplify the experience.

I have friends

who thought taking LSD at a Pink Floyd concert would be wonderful.

I never did manage to disabuse them of this idea.

By the way.

Oh my God.

That's like the place.

Yeah, what are you talking about?

I'm reacting to, I never did manage to disabuse them of this notion.

What the fuck?

Yeah, but yeah, that's going to a Pink Floyd concert is a good place to take acid, I think.

But I think it does depend.

If you've never taken it before or whatever, then you probably don't want to maybe be out or surrounded by a bunch of people, perhaps.

Like it might be smart.

But if you're a regular user of it, I think you're going to want to take it before you go to the Pink Void concert.

Yeah, or tool.

I looked for some tool stuff.

Most of the tool LSD are arguments on whether you should or should not listen to tool on LSD.

A lot of people are like, it's too scary.

It's funny.

The time signatures are impossible to fucking follow I would be really scared to take acid, go to tool, and then the whole, and then my brain is in like 13.8 time.

Yeah.

And then, like, I have to go see a different band to reset.

Yeah.

Got to listen to a band with regular time signatures if you're really out there.

Anyway, he goes, this isn't to say that attending Disney World would lead to the individual being overwhelmed by the experience.

More than likely, being at Disney World would be incidental to the person under the influence.

Surrounded by the Disney characters and all the rides, etc., there's a distinct possibility that they would spend the time staring at a leaf on a common plant or tree.

That's a commoner.

That's a humble plant.

Ah, the humble plant.

You could go to Disney where on a ride, it's a small world, but you could also look at a leaf in your front yard.

Yes.

We spend all this money when we could extract as much enjoyment out of our own faucet

for a nice glass of water.

Yeah, yeah.

He goes,

a planter tree, that it was a sublime, fulfilling experience.

Other people might very well find the crowds and noise disturbing.

Setting is very important to people under the influence of LSD.

The main thing to bear in mind is that the experience that might be fun in normal circumstances will not necessarily impact at all on a person under the influence of drugs.

Conversely,

it could cause a terrorist person.

This guy, very smart, right?

Like every word he's used is smart guy.

Then he goes like this.

He goes,

conversely, it would cause a person to totally flip out.

A little less medical there.

Like a tiny bit less medical academically.

Like him.

Then again, another person might love it.

LSD is probably the most subjective of all drug experiences.

In order to have a safe, enjoyable trip, most people take simple steps.

to best facilitate the experience, such as taking the drug with people you are comfortable with, ensuring that there's a safe place where the group can avoid others if that's the way the trip is going.

An LSD trip is an experience which is similar to canoeing rapids.

That's not true because I

canoeed rapids.

And let's check in with this guy.

You've canoed rapids.

I've canoed.

Be honest.

I've canoed rapids before.

I have.

Dude, I don't know what canoeing.

I mean, there were

how

does the drought have to be to be a rapid?

I don't know the technical, but I think it's pretty evident just visually speaking if you're going through rapids or not i think i do if the water is moving rapidly yeah

it's creating like the

rapid water rapidly yeah quickly

quickly quickly it means very fast faster than normal i'm saying what because i've been in a canoe where the water was moving how fast and i thought it was fast Was it creating like breaks like the like white caps or whatever in there?

We're not talking about soccer.

I know you want to.

We're going to do that episode in a few weeks.

Okay.

I was at the game last night, the white caps game.

They looked pretty good against Pumas, to be honest.

I'm against Puma.

That's BDS.

Yeah, it's Pumas.

It's a different.

It's a Mexican team.

Well, I guess if you don't mind buying Pumas, that's fine with me.

Yeah, it ties that by 30.

Yeah, it was intense.

But yeah, and so I cut off the bus to the wrong fucking bus stop.

And I was only like three bus stops away.

So I was probably half a mile or so from the bus.

Yeah, hang on a second.

This shit sounds like a wild ass trip.

This guy misses fucking bus stop.

He's like, I got off two stops too late.

There's no fucking way, dude.

There's no way that he must have been so high to have gotten, to have missed his bus.

He has to catch a bus going the other way now.

Well, it depends on how long you could walk it, perhaps.

But like, yeah, maybe not.

It depends on his business.

Even the thought of it.

We're going to find out.

He's only three blocks away.

But I was so fucked up I couldn't see it.

It was at night, which made it even fucking worse.

I couldn't see it.

I was so fucked up, it looked dark out.

It was almost

so now it's dark and he's got off at the wrong bus stop.

Those are the only crazy things that happen.

Certain areas I can see, the areas that are lit up by the lights.

I keep seeing these strange poles surrounded by cones of light.

This is the mark of a true acid story, though, in that, like, you're explaining things that are very normal normal that were spectacular when you were on it.

Because I don't have any, I really don't have any stories from acid.

Because when you boil them down, it's like I was playing Mortal Kombat and I started laughing at something, and I ate six Reese's cups.

Yeah, well,

I mean, that sounds good.

That's wandering around in the forest, and like one of my friends made like a noise to scare, like, was hiding off in the forest, going like,

like, making like a weird noise to scare everyone and going to different places that's about it that's like it's not exciting because it because the act of taking the drugs

makes everything exciting that's why drugs are so awesome because like they just make things that are more boring exciting I think that yeah I love mushrooms I think mushrooms have weird you're talking about it earlier like therapeutic effect and I really think they do like on a micro dosing level that there's like a weird thing

Jesse like the the when I will take them on a larger scale or something sometimes you feel this like like weird connection to other people and the earth.

Like you, like, that's the thing that I found that was like kind of like strange, where I would be, like, walking around in my neighborhood and I'd be like, I like all of these people.

Like, all of these people are my friends.

They are like my community.

They are like, yeah.

And it would give me that sort of feeling that would stay with me as well for a period of time afterwards.

So I don't know.

I think that there's a lot of like really positive.

And that guy telling that story where he's like, I took LSD and then I confessed this thing that was, like, I think that happens a lot too, where it like provides this perspective for you where you sort of say like, hey, you know what?

That thing that I did was fucked up and I need to make it better.

I think it allows your brain to sort of

see that more clearly.

It's very easy for humans to get on rails so much that it's really hard to shake off.

And anything that can sort of break that habit or

break you out of your normal way of thinking can.

totally help you get on a different track.

Yeah, yeah, it's just a lot of fun.

It's that much of an exhausting.

For five hours, you're disconnected from all of the things.

I always say you're disconnected from all the things that kind of make you you.

Like all of these different external factors.

My singing, my dancing, all of the things that make me be.

I mean, all the external factors.

You would hate my smile.

I say it's the external factors that

make you.

Like the, like, oh, I have a job and I have a job.

I do this job.

I'm this kind of guy.

I listen to this kind of music.

I do this kind of thing.

Like when you're disconnected from all that, you can really think.

I mean, I was going to say you can start the healing, but I'm not a hippie.

So let's see more of this.

I was bubbling idiot for like almost three days.

I peaked for like probably eight to ten hours and it was so intense.

I basically wandered around, you know, side streets looking for my house, talking to myself, and fucking seeing shit and dreaming.

It was like a vivid dream.

It was like dreaming.

Megan, the story is

you're going to be excited here, Jesse.

Now he's going going to talk about dreams and trips as well.

He's talking about a dream he had while he was tripping.

Tripping, but this is really like he's like, it was so intense.

I was walking around side streets.

And it's like, yeah, I mean, this is one of the least

stories

ever.

I was literally walking down the sidewalk for half an hour.

It was unbelievable.

At one point,

my shoe,

I look down, it's not even tied up.

It's a little bit, well, it's kind of tied up, but it's a little loose.

It's a little loose, and I sort of felt that.

And you're not going to believe that.

Somebody, at that point, then I passed by a person, and it was like, whoa.

Yes.

I think that's kind of like a lot of people.

I thought to myself, what if this person knows I'm high?

And then I sort of moved on.

Whoa.

Yeah.

I just thought to myself, whoa.

Yeah.

It was like, but it was scary because it was so intense.

I was sweating profusely.

I started puking.

It was bad, man.

Okay, these are good details.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He's barfing.

Sweating and puking.

Now you now.

Fine.

That's a story.

I puked.

I don't mind barfing.

Yeah, I like barfing.

But uh.

Of course, he's a big pap.

He had one before, because we didn't hear him open it, so it was open before he started recording.

Oh, yeah, because he was outside smoking and drinking, because his cigarette was almost done as well.

And then he said, you know what?

I'm smoking and drinking.

I'm going to make a fucking video about getting fucked up.

Yeah.

I was high for like three fucking days.

Whoa.

Like, after the two and a half days, I started to come down.

But I was a fucking wreck.

I swore I was going to die.

If I could have walked my ass to the hospital, I would have, but I couldn't.

I had no fucking idea where I was.

And I was in my neighborhood somewhere around about.

So wait, wait, wait, wait.

Just hang on.

Does he believe that he was wandering his neighborhood for three days?

Yes.

I believe that.

Because

that is not true.

That isn't true.

But

yeah, like what was it?

Where was he getting water from?

Where was he using, you know, getting food, using the restroom, like that type of stuff?

Time can get away from you.

You know, three days walking around a neighborhood, nobody helped.

On the canal bank.

Sitting next to the canal bank and watching the water go for like hours, hours.

I remember like the sun going down, the sun coming back up, and shit.

Yeah, it was a long time.

So, so, so

he is saying that he was not able to find his home for that entire three-day period, and he wandered around in his neighborhood and like sat beside the creek and stuff like that.

Get that tree

brutal.

What did he eat?

That's what I'm wondering.

He had some forage.

Maybe he had some biscottis and some oh, yeah, he went by his work and bullshit.

Yeah, he knew that there'd be that bullshit in the bag.

Yeah.

LSD experience.

And, you know, I've never been right ever since then, man.

I know I lost at least 10 IQ points that night.

And emotionally, I was a fairly stable person back then after that incident.

Something broke in my mind.

I'm just not quite the same.

Emotionally, I'm not the same person after that incident.

Oh.

So

I'm a big fan of LSD and hallucinogens.

I think that it's very minded.

Now, he's right.

It is funny the way he said it, but he's right.

He's saying that they, like we discussed before, they have a lot of therapeutic effects.

It's funny to me.

Like, it is.

I've never been the same, and it totally fucked me up, and now I'm not emotionally stable, and I'm just fucked up for the rest of my life.

But he just

are good.

He took too much.

He just took too much.

He's just, you know, he's saying within moderation, they're good, but you don't want to take 30 hits.

I don't think you can take it again.

There is one more video of him.

It will fuck you up.

It will fuck you up.

Definitely.

I definitely have friends who took LSD.

And I think

like uh

um they're predisposed in some way, like they have a mental health issue or something.

I think it can trigger that potentially.

I don't know the science behind it, but another reason why I've never done them is just because, like, it's not like that I can talk to the doctor and the doctor is like, well, take this much, you know, like, yeah,

like the only people who are going to tell me how much to take are people who do not know how much to take.

They are taking

California, Jesse?

Um, I do live in California now.

So they have churches there that you can go do

mushrooms with like shamans.

Okay.

That you can look into that.

You would love that, I'm sure.

The people that it would be your type of people that would be there.

Yeah, that sounds church with some shamans.

I think it would be cool.

There would be a lot of sort of celebrity types or people who are kind of in that sort of world of healing.

I have been worried about how many thetans I have.

I have been feeling the thetans in my body growing every day.

Well,

you've got a lot of crystals behind you when we're recording right now, I noticed.

All right, we're just going to listen to a recording.

Those are uncharged right now.

They're not charged right now, so they're safe.

I'll be getting some crystals for my audio.

Yeah, this is the end of the story.

It's 25 minutes.

We'll just watch this.

This is 25 minutes.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Let me show you his channel.

This is the same guy?

Yes.

Let me show you his channel before we get to this.

His name is Zach Black, like Jack.

Come on.

So he loves Satan.

Is that an AI-generated banner?

Oh, yeah.

Oh, it has to be.

Oh, 100%.

He has a playlist and it's 30 Hits of Acid.

And he also has another one that says 30 Hits of Acid.

Like, he's made several 30 Hits of Acid videos about

an anti-woke kind of guy, hey?

So he seems to be pretty anti-woke.

It is funny to have this guy who's like, yeah, I'm a big conservative, anti-woke guy.

And in one of his videos, he's like, yeah, I was like a normal, emotionally,

you know, a normal, emotional person then I took all this shit now.

I'm like fucked up and my emotions are fucked then I inserted a bunch of poison into my brain until it melted and got all over my spine and now I believe Donald Trump is the future.

This is the next.

He has 43,000.

How does this have 9.3 million views?

That's what I'm saying.

This guy is big.

Yeah, this guy is not some bullshit guy.

He's a big account.

Yeah.

Here we go.

So I've been asked to remake this video

30th of LST.

Here's what happened is I was working at this coffee shop.

He's just going to tell the whole story again.

But I had the end of the story.

Let me get the end of the story.

Yeah.

I mean, so it makes sense why he did a follow-up video because this was such a viral hit for him, right?

I think that's a smart thing.

I think we should all learn from that of like...

Why would you try to follow something up?

Just do it again.

Post another video of you telling the same exact story.

It's the same length.

It's still exactly three minutes, just about.

And then you're going to get the hits.

And for your YouTube channel, it's important to get hits on your YouTube channel.

Jesse, I don't know if you're sort of familiar with how that kind of stuff works, but it's important if you have older content

that might be interesting to people, it's important to bring it up.

So, for example, if you have a YouTube channel and you once interviewed Harvey Weinstein, then it would be good to play that on your YouTube channel to get some buzz going, like our friend Mike Opie Hughes.

Yeah.

So here we go.

Here we go.

This is 30 Hits of Acid QA.

Three top questions answered.

This is from one year ago.

Okay.

Okay.

This video is a little bit different than most.

This video, I just basically address some of the questions and comments in the 30 Hits of Acid video.

As you see, I try to diligently try to answer.

There is

an economy that exists around this 30 Hits of Acid video.

It is

all of these kinds of.

Yeah, it is his big thing.

And I don't think we realize as we're hearing it, just what it is.

This is like a story that is like a lot of people in the world know.

Yeah.

Louis J.

Gomez talked about it.

Because he

was Louis J.

Gomez.

How dare you mispronounce the

rattlesnake, whatever he calls him.

That guy, I happen to know for a fact that that guy, Louis Gomez, is emotionally unstable and will try to fight you for something like that.

Best I can.

But sometimes it's just easier for me to make a video about it.

Like Like now.

So

let's see.

One of the more common questions I've seen is

what is a hit of acid?

Is it hit of acid?

How many UGs are in a hit of acid?

Now he's starting to try to stretch.

Now he's trying to stretch.

He's like, well, what is acid?

Well, acid is a drug that Webster's Dictionary hunts acid as.

Trying to come up with anything else to say about this story.

He clearly doesn't have any real memories of it.

No.

And it has the textures to it.

I do see patterns coming out of it.

Or I do see a breath a little bit.

Even when I'm not high.

But it's been like that since I was a teenager.

It's been like that since I started doing ASIC when I was like 14.

I beat you, motherfucker.

I beat you, Jesus.

Late to the game.

Late to the game, I see.

Guys, late to the game.

This wasn't the one.

I got to find...

Let me find...

I'm sorry.

There it is.

End of the story.

Right in the middle.

Here we go.

Here we go.

There we go.

Wasn't a lot of people on the bus.

It wasn't a lot of people out, period.

This is actually a hot day, so it wasn't a lot of of traffic, which is.

You know what I just thought of?

Hang on, hang on.

I just thought of a different reality is that this story never happened.

It's a complete lie.

And he posted it up just fucking around, and it got huge amounts of traction.

So now he's adding so many parts of it, but it's all bullshit.

Yeah, I don't think this guy took 30 hits of acid.

I'm going to tell you that right now.

Do you think that?

Because I think that if it was made up, I think he would make it more interesting over time.

No, and that does not seem to be happening.

I mean, I just think he took a lot of acid.

Lack of credit.

I don't think

30 hits is so much.

I just don't think he did it.

I think that he's exaggerating.

He's just going to kill you.

No, I don't think acid will kill you, but like it would be so

it's just such an out of the realm of possibility amount of acid.

Like it does.

Why would a crustpunk give you all of his acid?

Is another.

Because he was so high, bro.

Because he didn't know what he was doing.

He was too high.

It's a kind of a, it sort of seems like a bullshit story, but I mean, I think that it probably did.

In all seriousness, I think it happened, but yeah, it was way less than 30 hits.

Yeah, and I love that he has like a Chiron thing that says, Zach Black, 30 hits LSD guy, Satanic International.

30 hits LSD guy.

This guy's going to come up on another episode later because we're doing Satanists.

A whole shitload of people at that moment, I probably would have lost my shit.

Even more so than I already lost my shit.

And

we got on the bus, and there's only a couple of people on the bus, which is another good thing.

Bus time.

It was one of those fucking buses, you know, those accordion buses.

Oh, fuck.

Yeah.

Oh, you guys know the accordion buses?

Now, this is a good detail.

I'm glad that he's adding this in.

This is

you ever stand on the accordion part of the accordion bus?

When I was in, so the Chicago accordion buses, they got two seats.

Oh, yes.

Yes, DF.

Echo ones do, too.

Yeah, yeah.

And they're facing each other.

And they're facing each other and they're too close to each other.

Yes.

And if you're sitting there, it's really weird.

It's really, really weird.

It's strange.

I think that probably there's one accordion bus company that makes all the accordion buses for everyone in North America that did, you know, because I think they're probably dealing with the same bus because that sounds identical.

But I kind of went to accordion bus.

I went to Chicago in like

fucking 2005 or 6 or something like that.

And when I came home, I talked probably more about the accordion bus than anything else that was there.

But it's not a common thing.

I fuck with the public transit of Chicago so much.

I think they did such a good job.

And like, I love that about the city.

That's one of the reasons I love that city.

Those fucking buses, which are already a trip to begin with, but

they are.

I just got on the bus.

You know, there's like maybe three or four people on the bus right to the back.

So, so I just want to say a very cool thing that he has going on right now is he is telling the second half of the story.

And in the top left corner over his shoulder, he has a video of the first video of him telling the beginning of the story with no audio on.

So, and it was

briefly labeled the fire roll version.

Oh, yeah, yeah, that it's just as like sort of like, hey, this is where you remember me from this video.

This is the thing that you saw.

Don't click away.

This bed wasn't maybe, I don't know, 10, 15 minutes long.

It wasn't too far, but I got off the wrong fucking stop.

While I was on the bus, though, I was just, I remember looking at some people.

You know, I was in the back, so I'm looking at the back of everybody's heads.

And one chick, one woman had a a baby, and the baby just, you know, over her shoulder looking at me, way up there, right?

Or at least it seemed like way up there.

Now my depth perception is like, oh,

like it's kind of stretching out, so I can't

tell how far that is.

Come on.

But this baby, for some reason.

What'd the baby do?

Just focused on me.

He was like a dog taking a shit.

I was like,

wait, wait, wait.

That's not a third phrase.

Don't know what you mean.

It could be like a dog taking his shit.

I think this part of the story is bullshit as well, because I just don't think there's too many mothers.

It's definitely not legal to do, but there's definitely not a lot of mothers that are holding their baby on the bus.

I just don't think that that happens.

It happens a lot.

It happens.

Yeah, because you got to get on the bus.

You got to get people.

People got to do shit, Chris.

You have a stroller.

What do you mean?

You have a stroller.

The baby babies and the stroller.

You futs with my stroller on the bus.

I got to do shit, Chris.

But I don't understand.

You're going to bring the baby out.

Maybe if you have it in a carrier, that's different.

But I'm just saying, if you're bringing a baby somewhere, you're not just going to carry it around.

You're going to have it in a stroller.

I didn't want to get it.

These are poor people, Chris, on the bus.

They're ghastly poor.

I take the bus.

They're not you and me.

We have our bus.

I take the bus.

I take the bus and

I put the baby in the stroller on the bus.

Me, we live with the broken business.

You can't hold the baby.

They are housekeepers and our nannies, and we see a completely different world on these people.

Yeah.

Use an $83 lotion.

These people are ghastly poor, Chris.

Brian, do not.

Do not put me on the same level as you at all

as far as the stuff we buy and the money and all of that.

Me and Chris are rich.

Okay, I move to the end.

I move to the end of the video.

We'll just check this out.

We'll get out of here.

I'm so fascinated by this guy.

He's really something.

I mean, I love, I think the thing I love the most about it is,

like you two were saying.

He did a video where he said I took 30 hits of acid and it went viral because things 15 years ago would just go viral.

Because they were just a 15-year-old video.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And it was.

2012 and before you didn't need to do anything.

It could, it would just be anything and it went viral.

Yeah.

And it would go viral and it would last a lot longer too.

Yeah.

So I think this guy, it goes viral.

It lasts weeks and weeks and weeks.

He's like, I'm a fucking celebrity now.

And then he starts to get to the point where, like, well, people don't really care about the 30 hits of acid story.

What if I did a 30 hits of acid QA?

And then also, what if I did the true, like do a thing where it's like the true full story, 30 hits of acid.

I I do this 30.

And he's like, being the 30 hits of acid guy

seems crazy.

Like, he's a satanic.

If he did it nowadays,

he would have the 30 hits coin, you know?

Like, he would have his own, like, yeah, yeah.

30 hits of acid satanic loss prevention officer is just such a combination of things, you know, and limo driver.

Did you see the

limo driver, too?

He's a driver.

One of the videos on his page said, Strippers, cocaine, ecstasy.

My job is a limo driver.

Yeah, these are jobs he's had.

He's not, I don't think he's a loss prevention officer anymore.

He's just like one of these guys.

He's had a lot, he's a classic dude.

He's had a bunch of jobs.

Yeah, I've had a bunch of jobs too.

Me too, yeah.

Um,

blow jobs, hand jobs, nice comedio, as far as like uh, but hey, hey, Brian, nice level of comedy.

Thank you.

That's brutal to be told, nice level of comedy.

That's really tough to take.

I'm a baby.

I need some movie juice, mama.

What the fuck is that?

Oh, sorry.

That's a sound drop from a mad cow.

That's a, from his radio show.

It's my favorite drop.

I thought that was the jester.

I thought the jester was talking to me.

Oh, buddy.

Hey, if the jester's talking to you, you'll fucking know.

Your life will change.

You'll see the new geometry.

Hey, new geometry just came out.

Yeah, new geometry.

Oh, you guys still fucking with octagons?

Okay, this should hit me perceived.

I hit play one more time and we're done.

I'm sorry to keep you two so long.

I'm just, I'm having to

laying down by myself trying to sleep, and there was not a lot of external stimuli.

I had some pretty crazy thoughts.

I mean, um, oh, please tell me, just thoughts about, like, you know, again, the whole like ego thing, the whole ego death thing where it was like, every, everything I knew was wrong.

I don't matter anymore.

This, this, this, this is my life shouldn't matter.

Everything that I found.

He literally said, everything's bullshit.

I'm just like, I'm meaningless, man.

Dude, everything's actually bullshit.

Yeah.

This is all almost like the Matrix.

Yeah.

Because I don't remember the Matrix.

It's like The Matrix.

Yeah, the red pill, blue pill.

I remember.

I've never seen The Matrix.

Of course, I've mentioned people get really mad at me.

I've never seen it.

I've never got it reads at it.

I've heard of it.

I know the concept of it.

So at first, you think it's the real world.

Yeah.

And I guess I won't spoil the twist.

And don't watch it.

That's the problem with watching it now.

Think about it.

Nobody could ever do the kind of karate they do in the Matrix in the real world.

It's just impossible.

I see.

So that's you knew already you're saying.

Oh, yeah.

Nemo.

There are little hints that you can sort of tell that they're in the computer.

But anyway, sorry.

And it's the karate style mostly.

You know,

seeing things for the the first time, how they really are, that's kind of how I felt.

It felt very similar to the Matrix.

And it was like, this is it.

Like, I'm not, am I ever going to not be high again?

It was kind of what I thought.

Do you know that feeling?

Yeah, I do know that feeling.

I just saw everything completely different.

Like, everything looked artificial to me.

Everything looked artificial.

I just had this feeling that I was, that I felt like a fish.

that had been taken out of water and just looked down and actually realized what water was.

That's kind of what I felt.

All right.

I think we can end the show on the whoa.

Hey, no, honestly, man, some of that stuff is worth mockery, but hey, something for everybody to fucking think on.

No, but that's heavy.

No, that's honestly heavy, and I'm sorry to stick that into your fucking brain capsules as we let you go here.

It felt like I'm sick.

Sorry to, we sort of gestured you guys at the end there.

We sort of went gesture mode a little bit.

Yeah.

The tadpole asks the frog, what is land like, and the frog can't do it.

He can't explain it because the tadpole wouldn't understand.

I think this psych, my favorite psychedelic, because so we learn something about guys often, like the like there's a main lesson.

Like with lottery guys, it's that they're insanely paranoid.

And with like swingers, they hate single guys or whatever, you know, and with bourbon guys, it's all about Pappy.

They only care about Pappy.

They don't want to drink anything else.

By the way, I went out to eat last night, Chris.

Yeah.

And the guy was like, Do you guys want a cocktail?

And I was like, Do you guys have Pappy?

And he said, No, because I knew they didn't have it, but I asked for it, and it made me look so cool.

No, it didn't.

Just to be clear, it did not.

It was just me and Katie sitting at the table.

I was like, Do you guys got Pappy?

That's the reason why I didn't ask.

Remember, I told you, I went out to the fancy dinner and I was like, I'm not going to ask if they have Pappy because it just, it's such a douchebag thing to do.

To go into a fancy restaurant and be like, oh, do you guys have Pappy?

Oh, no, you don't.

Oh, though, then I'm okay.

So, yeah, there will be much, much more of this because I love that they can't get turns of phrase right.

I think that's like sort of my favorite thing about these guys.

They're like, go jack yourself on a beach.

At one point, I didn't call it out, but one guy said

the seventh try was not the charm, which

is a very strange thing to say.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah,

they're talking a little fucked up.

Their brains are a little bit, you know what I mean?

I wonder what must have caused that.

I wonder what caused that to happen.

I do also like that they've learned the word.

I got to look it up real quick.

They learned a word.

Because you haven't learned it because you're not doing the drugs.

You're not doing the drugs.

I haven't done it in so long.

They learned several words.

They learned disabuse.

Disabuse.

Disabuse.

Let me give you this word that they learned.

Because it's like, it's a funny, it's like micro.

Oh, shit.

Micro, micro,

neuroplasticity.

It's called neuro.

They learn the word neuroplasticity.

That's big.

What does that mean?

It just means that you're like, your brain is more malleable.

Is that the kind of idea of it?

That's what it is.

And

that psychedelics give you neuroplasticity.

They don't make you stupid.

They give you neuroplasticity.

I don't think they make it stupid either, but they make you stupid.

No, I think that that, I think that's like kind of what we were talking about a little bit, that there's some truth to that.

The right dose and the right.

It allows a stiff mind to bend.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, I believe that's true.

By the way, just before you get to the point.

And you can come without touching your penis.

Yeah.

You just have to.

You have to angle your phone speaker at your penis and turn on Bjork.

And you put Bjork on, and you have to take a bunch of MDMA, and then you'll have a no-touch orgasm.

If you're looking to have a no-touch orgasm, yeah.

It's going to need Bjork.

You need Bjork for a no-touch.

If you want like a two-stroker, yeah, you can listen to some regular pop music.

But if you want a no-touch, you got to go Bjork.

I just want to say before we leave that I think we're putting on a little bit of a hold, just going a little bit of a rant.

We're putting on a hold the idea of doing shows in America.

And I want to say sorry.

And it's me, but I don't feel comfortable getting a visa.

It's not Chris.

It's me.

It's both of us.

I both made the decision after.

So a punk band.

came up like a punk band that had some leftist politics that had some tweets about Trump came over here and they took to the guys and they detained them and said like your visa's wrong and it's like no it's like, I find it very hard to believe that all of these sort of people who have

done leftist stuff.

Well, I think it's a coincidence.

I just think that's a coincidence.

I think it happens to be all the enemies of the state happen to have

expired documents.

And I want to say, Chris is the most nervous guy I've ever met.

So him coming over, he would stand out like a sore thumb.

That's the craziest thing I've ever heard.

I'm as cool as a cute guy.

You're the most nervous guy I've ever met.

I just have a family now, truly.

And I do like

getting detained

to go do a tour or something when I have a family seems really irresponsible.

You said that.

It is for age fucking bummer because

we love doing live shows.

We're doing the live show very soon in Toronto.

We can talk about that.

Oh, yeah.

It's sold out.

But we're going to

go.

We're going to try to do maybe two more Canadian shows close to the border, like places where you can do it.

But yeah, like genuinely, if you read the news up here in Canada and and stuff and the stories we're hearing about it, it seems like a genuinely unsafe time for

somebody to get a visa in my position and come over there and try to work.

So

or just for anybody to be around at all down here.

It's just sort of walking around is not really cool to do anymore, I guess.

Yeah, yeah.

But I'll say this, me and Chris will probably at times meet in the United States and we'll try to set up something where we hang out with some of the listeners, I think, would maybe be a way to do it.

Yeah, we could do that.

Like, I'm coming to Columbus, which, by the way, a lot of my family doesn't want me to do that.

They don't want to even, yeah, yeah, well, no, they just don't want me going to America.

They're just like, they don't want me to even go.

I said, I think I'm okay if I'm just going to visit.

Like, I don't think they're detaining people.

No, no, no.

They're not going to look at a visa.

No, but

so the listeners love this.

And they're probably ready to hear DBJ's

plug.

Do you have anything you want to plug?

Oh, just my, I mean, my stream, I stream at twitch.tv/slash deadblossomjesse.

i did uh uh i i was on there one time and one it's one of the most fun times i've ever had on a stream and two everybody was so nice to me afterwards like very much like oh you were great and so yeah the audience is supportive and they think i'm funny i do think i think i have a pretty good audience they're all psychopaths but i think they're nice psychopaths And I do remember you being on the on the show and it was wonderful.

I believe you were watching AEW as you were on the show the entire time as well.

That doesn't sound like me.

That actually doesn't sound like me.

No, I was happy because it's AEW.

He's literally missing the stream this weekend because he's watching AEW, our stream, the one that his actual stream.

It was the authentic Brian experience.

Yeah.

Some things are important.

Yeah.

Some things are important.

Some things are less important.

What do you want to be?

We'll see you all next week with something.

I don't know.

Yeah.

So we'll find out.

Yeah.

Who knows?

It could be any kind of guy.

Yeah.

Yeah.