Guys: Episode 100 The Wrestling Guys Rumble

Welcome to guys,

a podcast about guys.

I am your fill-in host for the week.

Some people call me Gris, some people call me

Chris.

But I am the co-host and I'm joined today by the expert smartsman himself, Brian Quinby.

Brian, how you doing today?

See, I still have the thing.

I'm great.

I'm just really keen.

It's been a great day.

I'm very nervous because

as Chris has intimated, this is the second episode I did not prep.

Yeah.

Which that's a good thing because I'm completely burnt out.

So it was nice to have somebody else do it.

But we don't have to

happen.

I mean, I don't know that you need to even say that you're burnt out one minute into the 100th episode of the podcast.

I would say it's even, it's even, you know, maybe people could just

make the decision theirself.

But I I did, Brian, meet some of your friends this week.

I did a bit of research on the internet and I found that a lot of your friends have a lot of very cool opinions opinions and they love to write very long posts and they are very very cool so um it was very very neat I don't know that I've you know we've been doing this for a long time but I've never really met any of your friends before so it was cool to get friends of mine

but I mean you actually would I would say I would I'll say this right at the beginning before this gets crazy okay

I, when I go to wrestling, I'm generally miserable.

I like watching the guys wrestle and stuff, but I don't like anything about what's going on around me in the audience at all.

I did learn some stuff, and we will get to it about some of the issues in the audience that do come up during wrestling events.

But of course, we are going to do, we should just mention off the top, okay?

Some people are going to be pissed off.

They're going to say, what the hell?

This is the wrestling guys episode.

I've been waiting for it forever.

I want it to be a classic guys episode with Brian doing the research.

And you will get that.

We're going to do a wrestling wrestling guys episode for the Patreon this week and we will release it for free in a few weeks as well.

So you'll be able to hear that with one guest and Brian doing research.

But yeah, this week I got the posts.

I'm reading the posts and we're doing it.

You got a ding, ding, ding ready.

We're doing it.

Royal Rumble.

Royal Rumble.

Can I tell you, I have one post.

It might be the most.

one of the dumbest things I've ever seen somebody say.

And since you have all the rest, I can, and it's just me and you.

Let me go first here.

Okay.

Yeah.

All right.

This guy on R Squared Circle, which is that's where the wrestling people go.

I know that, brother.

I was, I was fucking lit.

I was bathing in the squared circle this week.

I don't actually go to squared circle ever except for just today to look at this.

Okay.

Yeah.

So this is Outlaw MC.

And he's like, any companies that do real shoots?

Is there any companies that do real shoots, like a real match?

Well, not fully.

We don't want anyone getting seriously hurt, but matches that aren't predetermined who the winner will be.

I'm not much of an MMA fan anymore.

I want to see pro wrestling, but a match without predetermined winner.

Does this even exist?

I've seen Brawl for All, but that was a glorified tough man contest.

Well, Brawl for All was real fighting.

So, for anyone who does not remember, that was a short-lived thing in the WWE.

It was WWE, right?

It was pretty cool.

It was pretty cool.

It was like the wrestlers fought each other in real boxing matches, And that's when we discovered Bart Gunn was like very tough.

He kicked the shit out of everybody.

But yeah, I mean,

that's the thing he's saying he doesn't want.

He doesn't want people to get hurt.

He doesn't want MMA.

He doesn't want boxing.

He wants wrestling, but they don't know who's going to...

So

I want to see a vertical suplex happen

on a real fight.

But it sounds like he wants a wrestling match, but he doesn't want them to know who's going to win.

So then how do you determine it?

Is it like whoever's doing better with their move choreography?

Like, you know, like choreographing their moves?

Can you even fucking imagine the amount of energy you would have to expend to pin somebody to

the ground?

and have them count three they do it they do it in real wrestling brian it's quite difficult it's not a three count though it's just a one count because of how difficult it is and yeah it is notoriously difficult It's a thing you're trying to do.

Pinning someone is so hard, of course, if they're not incapacitated.

That's the beauty of this professional wrestling is often the guys will be really dazed and kind of out of it.

And then it can be a little bit easier to pin them.

But yeah,

that's a really good post.

I'm not really sure what it is that he wants, but it does fall in line with a lot of the stuff that I was learning this week, which is that they definitely know that they want something different than what's happening.

They know that they hate everything that's happening and they want it to be different.

And they have some suggestions as well.

And some of them have really thought it through.

I was starting to mention we're doing Royal Rumble style this week.

So it's one of the worst ideas I think that anybody's ever come up with in podcasting.

And we're going to try it.

We have.

I think eight guests, past guest favorites of the show who are going to be showing up Royal Rumble style every 10 minutes.

We have zero confirmation from the first guest.

So we are hoping that he shows up.

He is,

he doesn't always show up.

I will say that.

So we'll see how that goes down.

But we have some people who have definitely confirmed.

They're going to be showing up and reading some stuff with us.

Brian,

anything about your relationship to wrestling before we do get any guests on?

Like, when did you really get into it?

Was there like a...

a moment, a card that really got you into it?

It's a moment I barely remember, but I was at, funny enough, I was at the bowling alley with my dad because he's a bowler, right?

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's funny.

I talked to him.

I told you about the day I talked to him for like two hours and he just talked about cruises the whole time.

One of the other things he said was,

you know, it's really not, you know, go down to Evansville, Indiana, those lanes are so oiled up that, you know, it's much easier to bowl a 300 there than it is in Ohio.

So I he knows, he knows, like,

if he went into, and if like all the joking we're doing about the fucking dry ass bolero lanes he would like that is 100 true yeah and

and he'll say it's that way in ohio but like in the whole he'll be like when i'm down in indiana in evansville indiana he lived there for a while he's like i bowled two 300s there because it's easier the lanes are oiled so he's he thinks it's a statewide issue of dry lanes in ohio i think he thinks it's a worldwide issue except for in evansville indiana evansville is the only city in the world that's doing it right.

Otherwise, I would love to look into it and do a bit of research.

Is it like a known thing that that's like a popular bowling place or something?

He kept saying there are easy lanes in Evansville.

I'm like, I don't even know what that fucking means.

And I was trying to kind of goof about it.

And he was like, no, I'm serious.

Like, he was so serious.

I was like kind of telling jokes and stuff.

And he was like, no, I'm serious.

Evansville.

They oil those lanes like crazy.

So he was bowled on a cruise ship and said lanes were bad on a cruise ship.

Yeah, well, they're that's moving around and stuff as well, which can be true.

But so, you were you're at a bowling alley uh with your dad, and he was pretty serious about what was happening on the lanes.

And you were probably not so serious about that.

He did not look at us one time that night, if I can remember.

But on the television was uh, the Friday night card that was on

uh NBC,

where

the first time hulk hogan and andre faced the last time they faced off before wrestlemania the big slam the famous big slam i saw that and i was like that's sick okay i like that but i just filed it away in my brain and then a few years later my brother was like we're

we're gonna go watch wrestlemania at this at my friend's house He has a little brother, so I'll bring you along.

You can hang out with his little brother.

I'll hang out with him.

We got the, and we're going to go watch wrestling i mean that's pretty that's pretty nice that's pretty nice uh of him to bring you along little shit little uh you know weasel brother you were brian

yeah i was brian yes i'm just like eight i don't know i'd have to look up the exact date but i was not old it was preber so it was preber preber yeah we ready to bring our first our first wrestler in um yeah i mean i think we can uh if you want to hit that obnoxious countdown that we're going to do every single time.

What's going on, guys?

Oh, my goodness.

It's Marshall Man Randy Savage.

That's right, folks.

We did not get past guests.

We have some of the most famous wrestlers from Days Past.

Marshall Man, how are you doing, Slim Jims?

Yeah, I'm just hanging out there, Chris.

You know how it is.

Yeah, i do know how we got some of the best dead wrestlers here can you do chris benoit am i dead oh

oh yeah you died a while ago

no

you uh lay hey that ain't good for me that ain't good news brother you know what unfortunately it's the inevitability of life sir uh thank you so much thank you so ever looked at an old can i ask you ever looked at a picture of the macho man randy savage like in the last few matches before he died because because that is a hard

hard.

He went hard, and his skin seems to have taken the brunt of it somehow.

You know, his skin was some of the leatheriest.

He had, he had one of the leathery but thin at the same time, brother, somehow.

Yeah, he had a deep, deep, you know, alarming tan that he kept.

Yeah, he looked, I all get that.

He stealed my beady eyes.

Oh, yeah.

When I, when you would, you would do the man cow thing where you take off your sunglasses and everyone's shocked at how beady your eyes are.

Nobody liked it.

Everybody hated it.

They kept asking me to stop, but I was far too unpredictable backstage.

And that is a true thing about the Macho Man, unfortunately.

DB, folks, we got introduced properly.

It's our first ever guest in the history of guys.

It's Mike Hale from YKSAKDB.

Mike, thanks for coming on.

What's up, there's the end of.

Yeah, his late era was a

odd look he was well but it's it's cool that he didn't it's cool he never went gray he's got he has the he has the sprayed on beard like like it's not the when you say sprayed on beard like it actually looks like it's sprayed on like not hair hair

i don't know how you get that he's doing the thing where like people do where it's like i have to like overcompensate for the gray or whatever just let it go bro yeah it looks so bad it yeah it does really he really does look so bad he looks really horrible.

We should get to some posts.

I just want to make sure that.

Let me tell you, though, what happened?

I went to WrestleMania 4, which is widely considered one of the worst WrestleManias.

But I was sitting there and the kid's uncle was there, too, right?

And I remember the kid that you

went to his house.

We were at this kid's house and his family's there.

His uncle's there.

We're watching WrestleMania 4.

He's like, I don't even know why.

I don't even know why they do these tournaments the macho man is just going to pay off the goddamn referee and he was legit not macho man million dollar man he was legit every bad call the referee made he's like god damn it yeah he was mad that's good old days he celebrated so hard come on ref he's right there he threw this in right in his face

ref are you literally blind it's right in front of you yeah the um i love the guys who are even if they're like you know they kind of know at the end of the day they're just like playing in their mind, they've convinced themselves in that moment.

I also love the idea like that it's just this corruption bullshit.

It's like, it doesn't matter who's the best fucking fighter.

Macho Man, I mean, a million dollar man in his deep pockets are just going to pay off.

He has enough to pay off the rest, but not enough to buy the league, the

fans.

I mean, I think

they probably did a storyline where he bought it, I would imagine.

No, no, no.

I don't think that ever happened because he was gone pretty quick.

You look at that, like he gets out of there and he's on WCW and they're like, they're not allowed to call him the million dollar man.

So they're like, oh, it's a rich guy that owns the NWO.

Oh, yeah.

It was like, because they couldn't say, they're like, Ted Dibiase is here.

You know, he has a lot of money.

Just to be clear, though, just to be clear, Dibiase is legit from the territory days.

He's a legit guy.

He was mid-South.

He did proper territory wrestling.

He's a legend.

So he's...

Babyface, famous babyface.

Famous babyface.

That's true, Brian.

He was a babyface in the territories, and he became one of the most famous heels when he joined the big

companies.

Let's get to a post.

I love doing these because I get to really feel Brian's struggle of trying to read any posts whatsoever, but I'm really trying to do it now.

I just pulled up another photo of Randy Savage.

Which version was your favorite?

He let it go gray in the end.

So good on him for that.

Somebody came to him and said, die with a little dignity, sir.

If I had to pick my favorite macho man, I'm going to go not with TNA macho man.

No, I think I'll probably go with one of the ones where he was, you know, in fighting age and

doing very well.

So this first post that I have comes from, we've hit a lot of forums, but this one is from Wrestling Forum, which is quite a big forum, wrestling forum.

Yeah, Brian's never heard of it.

I'm not much of a wrestling guy, huh?

So this is from a post from Shawnee.

And this is a very recent post from 2024, October.

says, when I hear a person who says they don't like wrestling because it's fake, all I can think of is, well, do you watch films and soaps because you think they are real?

I say that too.

I'll say that to this day.

Like if I go and some old guy says it, like if an old guy says, you know, it's fake, I'm like, so it's breaking bad, bitch.

Like, you're all mad about it, you know?

So

this is something maybe that you could take to hard thing because this

it finishes here and you can maybe use this as well.

Just say you don't like wrestling instead of putting the fake thing in because it is an art.

Just awesome.

So see, I hate guys that call it art.

So this is a big thing that I have, that I did learn was that is the number one argument.

First off, it's the number one thing that the wrestling guys are dealing with is people are constantly reminding them of the fact that this thing is very fake

and not just fake but they're also being told often that it's fake as well as gay and that is a big childish don't forget about it's for children yeah but i did notice there's a lot of in fact you know i i searched on the wrestling observer forum for the term gay and it just had far too many um

results to even you know uh have them show up and it's a big issue for them and that's their big response is to say hey if you think this is fake, let me tell you a little something about your favorite television shows and movies.

And I guess that pretty much ends the debate.

I got news for you about your favorite Days of Our Lives or General Hospital shows.

They're all fake as well.

Yeah,

I have some bad news for you.

Those people are married to other people in real life often.

No,

the gay thing is funny because, like,

I would categorize wrestling fandom in 2024 as a little more

tolerant of that sort of thing than it was back in the day.

Because back in the day, they'd be like, This guy's a bad guy.

Why is he a bad guy?

He's gay.

He acts a little gay.

And that's what makes him a bad guy.

Yeah, it's not really, it's not so much like there doesn't seem to be all this huge homophobe.

It's more they're defending themselves from the idea from other people who are trying to tell them that it is something that looks gay.

That's them going.

It's a guy saying, I'm not watching it to whack my pud.

okay?

I'm just watching it because I like it because it's art.

So

we have a reply here to this from Jay Omega says, Robert Downey Jr.

is Iron Man.

That's real life and not just a gimmick, LOL.

Oh, that's funny.

Yeah, I like to think of Ronald Mark.

It's funny to call it a gimmick.

I love wrestling guys that are like, oh, yeah, it's like not

Robert Downey Jr.

plays Iron Man.

It's like Robert Downey Jr.'s gimmick is Iron Man.

Yeah.

Yeah, they talk about everything in wrestling terms.

This guy, Jay Omega, says, I like to think of wrestling almost like a live-action comic book.

Good, bad, and morally gray characters all involved in stories that never really end.

Eventually, there's big blow-off battles, but the overall story just keeps going on with new characters in the spotlight.

Would you agree with that, Brian?

I want to say this.

I like...

the comic book thing maybe a little better than I like art because

something happened like 2017, 2018,

where it just turned into this thing where these guys were writing these big flowery essays about wrestling storylines.

And

I, and they were like, it's art.

It's actually like a very artistic endeavor.

And I was like, no, don't do that.

It's a carney thing.

That's why we like it.

But, Brian, I just, I do want to inform you that they are still doing that a lot, the thing that you were talking about.

I know.

It won't go away.

It's happening all the time.

Kono says, no, just one second.

I just want to read this final reply here.

This is a good thing if somebody sort of

is talking to you in this way.

It says, if someone cannot understand how wrestling works, take into consideration that his brain possibly can't grasp complex concepts.

So I would say, don't even bother talking to him if he doesn't understand how wrestling works.

Yeah, I guess we, hey, we've got another person coming in here.

Let's do the countdown again.

Oh my god, it's asking for war.

Holy shit, folks.

Well, hey, this is this is like in wrestling terms.

I guess we got the two halves to the tag team, YKS.

Tag team YKS.

It's kind of cool when they do that in a Royal Rumble, you know?

It's like, oh shit, there's Janetti.

There's Michaels now.

Yeah, is Brian going to throw Chris out of the ring?

Is

one of us is Janetti?

Sorry, can we go back to who's Janetti and who's Michaels?

I'm sorry to say, Jesse, that you are Janetti.

I'm Janetti.

Yeah, but he's the better wrestler.

He's a better technical wrestler.

And honestly, at the end of the day, I mean, he had a tough time.

Did he pass away, Janetti?

No, but he did post recently about, it was like a 17-year-old girl, and he was like, this girl says she's my daughter.

Should I fuck her?

Or something like really weird.

So he's not doing well.

He's not doing super well.

Can I not be Janetti just out of curiosity?

Hang on a second, Jesse, because believe it or not, even though that's the case, Sean Michaels is a much worse guy.

He's horrible and every, I mean, he's also terrible as well and done all

the thing that Brian just said maybe kind of would undercut.

No, Sean Michaels parked wherever and caught like massive tickets and stuff.

He's

named that shit.

He's slightly rude to some of the other wrestlers sometimes, actually.

I got off light.

Yeah, he was a big fan of the woman.

I mean, he's a big-time Christian freak, though, and he's ruining wrestling.

Do you really want to hear me go off on my high horse?

Sean Michaels is ruining wrestling.

So I didn't know that about Janetti.

I just thought Janetti was like, I saw that documentary about him or whatever.

It seemed like he had been struggling with substance abuse, but he had quite a bit of respect from the other wrestlers.

Well,

this is the post from Facebook.

If you loves me as much as I loves you, you will give your opinion.

Just did a DNA test two weeks ago.

She's not my daughter.

We both held out of sex because you don't do that.

But now that we ain't, from a guy's side, she's hot.

She's been daughter.

I want to too, but can't get past that.

So.

This is like a OP and Anthea type of post.

Yeah.

Okay, Jesse, I'm going to go ahead and say you don't have to be Jeanette anymore.

Jesse, would you fuck a woman you thought was your daughter

just a mere two weeks ago?

Even if DNA test.

Jesse just removed his microphone from the front of his face.

Can y'all go ahead and eliminate me, bro?

I don't want to.

All right.

Well, listen, folks, some people can't handle the fire in the kitchen.

And if that's the case and you want to fucking have that kind of attitude, well, go ahead and get out there.

Jesse, leave.

Jesse Ferrari

has been eliminated from the show.

Jesse, please disconnect your camera and microphone, sir.

And Jesse is God.

No,

that's what can happen if you might.

Can I get kicked off the show?

That's what can happen if you become disrespectful to the hosts on the show.

Here's a picture of Marty Giannetti, too.

I can show you real quick.

We can do some little Marty Janetti stuff.

This is a cool picture of him.

I'm not sure that the Jannetti stuff is really going over super well.

I think he like consider getting off of Janeti.

It does look like he's having fun holding on to two regular looking women's titties.

Yeah, I mean, they're all, yeah, he's, and listen, at least in that photo, these are older women that he's holding on to their titties.

But yeah, let's let's get off of Janeti.

Let's try to not talk about Janetti anymore.

Let's head over to Janetti.

Listen, Sean Michaels is 10 times worse the way he's

doing wrestling.

Yeah.

Oh.

Oh, yeah.

He,

yeah, Brian's talking about it from a wrestling standpoint.

Sean Michaels is a terrible guy.

No, no, like by all accounts, is a really mean guy, but not, not like, anyways, let's, let's get off of Janetti and move over to R slash squared circle.

And here's an important

question.

When you tell people you like wrestling for the first time,

how do they generally react?

For me, I get mostly, you mean the fake stuff?

And I never would have thought you'd like wrestling.

I did get a, I'm embarrassed for you today, which was kind of surprising.

Ha ha ha.

That's funny.

That's actually a very funny reaction to it.

I mostly get like,

no, you don't.

Like, a lot of people just don't want to believe that somebody...

My dad, man,

is so let down by the fact that I like wrestling and country music.

I wish I could have him on the other side.

You like country music?

You like rap?

I do like rap.

How about your dad?

Your dad.

Is your dad giving you like a Jay-Z tape or something?

Like, what kind of music dads?

What kind of music does your dad listen to that he doesn't like country?

Yeah.

He likes like, like, uh, E-L-O.

Classic rock.

Well, yeah, but Pink Floyd.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Classic rock.

Okay.

He always says they don't play the stuff I like on the radio.

That's cool.

But he never explains what that is.

You know who he really likes?

I play ELO fucking every day.

I know.

I know.

I know.

You know how he does at it?

He doesn't know how to get it from AM to FM.

That's the problem.

He's only playing the talk stuff.

They're never playing the fucking Led Zeppelin and the Pink Floyd that I like.

What he loves is his favorite thing, and he's been trying to get me to go, is Trans-Siberian Orchestra.

Like that is

the only concert he's been to in probably 40 years is TSO.

He goes every year and he says, he calls it TSO.

Wow.

And he's like, you got to see it.

They play the guitar so good.

And they're doing Christmas songs.

Actually, they do a story in the background, which I found out that the story in the background of the TSO concert is that a woman.

You look up the story?

That's, you can see it.

Yeah, because

we just did a Christmas episode, but the story is about a woman and kid who die in childbirth.

And the husband has to go through a really tough life.

And a lot of the reviews are like, yeah, could the story be a little less sad?

We're all here to listen to some Christmassy heavy metal.

I'm sorry, I'll get us back on task.

Thank you.

Oh, thanks, Brian.

Actually, that's nice.

We could maybe use that in regular episodes.

It's like when they're fighting.

It's like when somebody comes out and they're all fighting and brawling.

Yeah.

And then the guy just keeps ringing the bell like they're going to be like, oh, shit.

I might have to call on you to ring that a few more times as, you know, we fill up with people here.

But this is a reply remember to people when you first tell them that you like wrestling.

How do they react?

He was saying people are embarrassed for him.

This person responded, I have a CM punk sticker on the back window of my new F-250.

Fuck.

I don't like it.

That's the punker.

That's punk attitude.

That's punk attitude.

That's sort of attitude era.

And got a very cool response from Mother Love Bone27.

It's kind of a cool little story.

I took that attitude a bit too far once.

You like wrestling?

You know it's fake, right?

All smug.

My response: wait, don't you believe in God?

He looked at the ground for a couple minutes before changing the subject.

Can you imagine that scene playing out where he says that thing, and two to three minutes go by of him just kicking around his feet and staring at the ground?

He changed my mind about a lot of shit.

Not only do I believe God is real, but I believe wrestling's real.

Like, he changes the guy to change.

The guy goes to his next thing, and he's like, that's some of that stuff that wrestling guys do is pretty crazy.

Thankfully, the person who said it, they said they felt bad.

But well, you go around with your Bible preaching John 3.16.

Austin 3.16 says, I just whooped your ass.

Famous.

Famous.

That's famous.

That's from Jake the Snake Roberts.

Jake the Snake Roberts

was the subject of that Stone Cold Steve Austin set.

Yes.

Yeah.

Thank you.

No, of course.

That's what I'm saying.

Jake the Snake Roberts was very religious and would always quote Bible stuff.

And he was in a feud with Stone Cold Steve Austin.

And that's where the very famous.

I didn't know that.

Very, very also such a good guy.

Jake the Snake.

Yeah, well, he's no.

He never had any problems.

He's no genetic.

I mean, he,

all right.

Hey, Brian, as I'm bringing up Jake the Snake, do you want to start talking about his father for 10 to 15 minutes?

Jeez.

Oh, my.

It's

Tom from down under, our only international guest for the show.

It's Tom Walker.

Tom, how are you?

I'm so good, Chris.

Thank you so much for having me.

I'm here to run house on these Jabronis.

Oh, hell yeah.

He's the Chris Benoit of the show.

That's right.

What is that, Pete?

I just killed my family and myself, and I'm here to kind of take care of some unfinished business.

Hey, Tom, really sorry to hear that.

Was a big fan of Demi.

Don't like to hear that news, but

we got to move forward here.

Yeah, we got to.

And Tom, do they have wrestling in Australia?

We actually do.

They have one of the most vibrant indie scenes in the world.

Oh, okay.

Is that true, Tom?

Okay, then move here.

Who are you talking about?

Hey, no, no, we do have wrestling here.

There's actually been a few exports of recent years.

I think our Tony Storm?

Slack

business?

His name's Slex.

S-L-E-X.

And now might be a good business.

Now might be a good time for me to reveal that, of course, I don't know any of them because, you know, I don't follow wrestling too much anymore.

But yeah, no, we have like,

I think there's something about the amount of personal trainers and also loud people that Australia produces that means we're actually well positioned to make a lot of pro wrestlers.

There's a lot of people who are just sort of already like, sort of ready for it.

They just need to learn how to do a suplex or whatever.

There's a lot of people who are violent and want people to look at them over here.

Yes, of of course.

The Broad Boys.

We all know the Broad Boys.

We all know the Broad Boys.

Bushwhackers.

Bushwhaters,

the Bushwhackers.

That was one of the first, the only live.

Yeah,

I was like nine years old doing that shit.

I saw him live, TV.

I saw him live at Pacific Coliseum in Vancouver.

And my dad tells a story all the time.

He took my brother and I, when I was four years old, to a WWF event, and it was WWF at the time.

And he said it was like the scariest experience he ever had.

He is like, was like, this is like really a dangerous situation that I should not have brought my children to.

And it was like, really, because that was like in the 90s, like when it was like, it was, people were really into it.

It was like, and there was still some people who kind of believed it still.

Do you know what I mean?

Like the Kfabe, as we learn about, was not completely gone at that point.

We're learning right now,

Tom, about what people say when they first, when you tell them that you like wrestling.

This is a post from Reddit where somebody is saying, hey, how do people react when you tell them that you like wrestling?

This is from Mr.

Red T-Rex,

and he says, girls think I'm an idiot.

So that's the response that he gets.

I would not tell, here's the thing.

If I was single,

Never will be, never will be.

I wouldn't be doing the show with you.

Disgusting.

Nothing grosser.

If I was a single guy,

I would not tell a woman that I liked professional wrestling for a really long time into the relationship.

There's really no reason to talk about pro wrestling.

No, I think there is.

We're going to learn about that.

There is.

You don't want to get into a relationship with someone and then find out later on.

And then, boom, now you're in a relationship and you're like, I love wrestling.

She's like, I hate it.

You want to find someone who, you know, loves and respects the things that you love.

Now, is it going to be easy with the wrestling thing?

No, it's going to be the worst thing.

I would never, I'm so glad I did actually.

I've told the story in the past of me and Katie started dating

because I had, I lived in, believe it or not, I lived in the apartment that everybody partied at.

I would be considered the

same thing.

I was trying to study, and these guys are partying all the time.

Yeah, okay.

I imagine him.

He's in his like

riskies or whatever.

He's got

a huge test tomorrow.

Excuse me, but it wouldn't be such an issue if I wasn't volunteering before my classes tomorrow.

But

mightn't we bring this down, my dear boys?

My candle is guttering upon my saucer.

Dude, Brian, you need to chill out.

Try this.

That's where it all gets wrong.

They passed him a single caramello bar.

Just go huge and shit.

You gotta relax, man.

Take a hit off of this.

I just talked about this, but that was the apartment I lived in where I did the math on acid and was like, okay, so one hit of acid is $5 last eight hours.

Weed is way more expensive and lasts a way shorter amount of time.

So why don't we just do acid every day?

So we did that for like a summer and a fall.

I want to laugh at you, but I definitely had times in my teenage years, I did drug math like that, you know, where it was just like, well, the ecstasy is going to get me high for six hours on a five dollar pill you know it's that's pretty normal i think but so in that house this is the attitude our when stone cold steve austin has like really so i was into all the wrestling right i used to go to this guy's house and sit on his bed with him and two other guys

and sit in this guy's bed like three or four of us next to each other right

i had this I had this friend Andrew in high school who I would go over to his house and I would, I would stay the night at his house and we would both sleep in the same bed and stuff.

We would stay up watching like

Evolution or something, the movie Evolution with

Sean Williams Scott.

I remember

I'd wake up and be like soaking wet with sweat and the evolution DVD menu would be playing and stuff.

Yeah, so we're, yeah, we would sit at this guy's house.

He had a bong made out of a gold schlager bottle and his parents let him smoke cigarettes and weed in his bedroom.

But they just

figured it's better there than elsewhere, right?

I guess, but they also let us all come over there and smoke cigarettes and weed in his bedroom.

Well, they didn't want their kid to be a loner.

Well, he was very much.

He never left his house, ever, ever, ever.

Oh, yeah.

Last time I saw one of them.

Why would you leave your house?

So many places outside your house, you're not allowed to smoke or drink, you know?

So he's one of those guys that's kind of psycho, like a guy that you know, or like you could be in and out with him.

He'll be like, all of a sudden, he's like, I don't like him.

Like, like Jared, a few times, like, I don't like Cuber.

Yeah, don't bring him over here anymore.

So, then my friend Nate or Dudo would have

does roll off the tongue real easy, Brian.

I think that might, you know, that's an easy sentence to say, and for good reason.

The leader of the violence gang makes a few enemies on his

own.

He was in the violence violence gang, Tom.

Oh, well, no worries.

So, he was in, so he was in your gang, and so there would be like sort of, but that happens in gangs.

I see it when I watch documentaries and stuff.

There's like a falling out or whatever, like different factions.

Like, maybe like these guys joined the, you know, the Queber faction and these guys stayed with Jared or whatever.

It was usually something where Jared was like, I don't like Queber anymore.

He thinks he's better than me.

Like,

that I can't really wrap my head around.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But my Queber

better than anyone.

I know.

And I wasn't the leader of a violence game.

Chris Loy says the leader.

I was in a crew of people that hung out together and I was not important to the thing.

Well, you were very important to it.

You were the guy they sent.

Yeah, you were the guy they sent in there to get people all riled up this morning.

You know what?

He wasn't the guy.

No, no, I was not the boss.

He was the weak little annoying guy who would piss everyone off and then they would want to fight.

And then fucking the muscle was porno pornoshon, who would walk up and fucking just straight knock guys out.

He didn't care how old they were.

Anyway, you'd be in and out with Jared.

He would hate you, then he'd like you, and he'd hate you.

And I remember at the time we were watching wrestling over there.

Every Monday, we would switch back and forth between Raw and Nitro.

And he stopped liking me.

But I had my own apartment, kind of, at this time.

My friend had an apartment that I lived in and didn't pay any rent,

but I lived there.

And

so I was like, nobody is allowed at this house during wrestling at all.

The party house is closed down from 8 to 10 every Monday night.

You are not allowed here.

So then one night I'm sitting there watching Stone Cold Steve Austin and get into his antics and somebody runs into a tree in front of my apartment, little sapling tree.

And it turns out it's my wife, my now wife.

She was very drunk as well.

The only time she ever drove drunk, she hit the tree with her Nova, stumbled into the house, and I was like, You know, you're not supposed to be here.

Did you know her before this?

I did.

We were friends, but she was specifically one of the people that because I didn't.

I listen, I said no women are allowed here because they talk through the wrestling.

Who's honest?

Why is he mad?

Yeah, I mean,

they're gonna jump through the whole thing, and it's just like, they think he's powers.

He doesn't have powers, Dave.

God damn.

He just jumps around.

I don't know.

Last one did.

Last one did.

The Walk Spot of the Ring, man, he had some powers.

That was the exception to the rule.

The Undertaker is kind of, he exists out of this fiction that we've built.

I understand.

I understand it just sounds like they're just kind of noodling on the guitar, but like, there's something to be listening to here, honey.

You got to stop the chomping.

You got to keep chomping out of it.

the the drunk driving meet cute another casualty of our local movie industry

something you could not write nowadays people don't do that anymore

no

so i was losing my mind on her just yelling at her is her and my sister she's friends my sister

i was putting a promo on my i was

And I'm yelling and I'm pissed.

You know what I mean?

And then,

so she started crying.

And I was like, ah, gee, now I feel bad about the whole thing.

So then I had to go apologize to her and talk her down because she was a little drunk.

And then we kind of started to fall for each other.

And now we're married.

That's kind of a view of the fell for each other.

We started kissing during Nightmare on Elm Street 5.

But it all

when the guy's on the motorcycle that turns into Freddy.

I don't know the film.

I don't know the scenes.

Was this after the wrestling?

Or was this later?

Yeah, it was on after wrestling.

It was in October.

That's how we know we started dating in October because a horror movie.

Oh, what was it?

Sorry, was it that day?

It was that night.

Yeah.

Then the next day, she came back over and she was like,

Hey, I'm your girlfriend.

So, you, you, so later that evening, you kissed.

You guys kissed?

And she was

so drunk that she crashed her car.

Yes, but then she came back the next day.

You know what I mean?

Like, we weren't, yeah.

Her car was there, dude.

We weren't

two totally sober people making out, you know what I mean?

It was

at no point is anyone, and you were saying, and you were stone cold sober.

We aren't saying that, no, no, no, there's the only thing stone cold in that house that night was Steve Austin.

No doubt about it, right?

But that's how we ended up.

That was the that was the night that our love happened.

She showed up during wrestling, and then the next week, the next week, I said,

do not come over here during wrestling.

And she didn't.

She didn't.

And that's how you knew.

Yeah, that's how I knew I was going to marry that woman.

I'm going to marry that girl.

You look at your watch and you see Raw is about to end, and you look outside and nobody's there.

And you're like, hey, you married that girl.

She's the one.

Here's a good post about, we're talking about, of course, what people say.

And then we've got another guest who's going to be coming in after this.

What people say

when you tell them that you like wrestling.

And this is from Jerry Cola.

My girlfriend kept saying it was gay.

He showed her a video of mankind being thrown from hell in the cell at King of the Ring 1998.

She still doesn't like it, but I don't get the it's gay comments anymore.

It's impossible that that's gay because mankind is so unattractive.

So ugly and grotesque and he hurts himself so much and it's like his tooth comes out of his nose, and it like looks so nasty.

And

it wouldn't make anybody horny that it's like, I think she's got to concede that this is not gay.

I still hate it, it sucks.

And I guess he feels like that's a pretty big win for him.

Brian, you want to hit that

count?

Whoa,

we have to do it.

Oh,

oh,

that's Gabris's music.

It feels like everybody's doing the bushwhackers.

Gabriel's doing the full run out to the ring.

You know, that

is my favorite ring entrance, is the full sprint where it's like you cannot wait to fight.

You are so excited to fight.

In the Royal Rumble, it feels like you want the less time you spend in the ring, the full,

the better off.

Let me just stop and get some water and shit and go in there totally like ready to rip.

I love the guys that are in the Royal Rumble, and they're like, you know, that backstage they were like, you're going to need to be in there for most of the thing.

So he's like, oh, okay, I'll just go lay in the corner and have people pretend to kick me all night.

Power up.

Abras, do you watch wrestling at all?

Were you?

Are you still the wrestling watcher?

I probably have like the same 40-year-old guy origin story as a lot of people where, you know, I came up in like that Ultimate Warrior, Hulk Hogan, Undertaker world, loved it,

got to be a little like a high school kid and was like, I care less.

And then WCW versus NWO came out on Nintendo 64 and completely reinvigorated me.

And I became a between NWO and Wolfpack, I like got back into.

I had a Wolfpack shirt.

I definitely had.

If you don't think my high school health project was Degeneration X and like we had NWO square off of it against Degeneration X and Steve Stone Cold Steve Austin overdose on steroids as we explain the dangers of steroids.

It was just an eight-minute backyard wrestling bit.

My hell teacher was like,

all right.

Good work.

It had to be hell for teachers at that time because they were constantly dealing with wrestling.

Was Jackass out at the same time or like that combination?

Was that?

Oh, that was Jackass.

It was a bit later, like during Attitude Era type stuff, I think.

Yeah, all those dip shits that liked wrestling started watching Jackass.

That's what happened.

Hear me roar.

Yeah,

I teachers must have been told to suck it like one million times.

Oh, yeah, like, yeah.

Did you guys do the thing where you had backyard trampoline wrestling federations and stuff like that?

We did.

And we made, I had one got one of my friends made like a wooden belt and stuff.

And we had like at parties or sleepovers, we we would watch the PVVs and stuff and do backyard trampoline wrestling.

I never did that when I was younger, but I did know a group of people who did it that we would make fun of a lot.

So

I'm just joking.

I honestly, I thought it was, no, I thought it was like, I just didn't have the like, I couldn't do it.

Do you know what I mean?

Like, I didn't have the ingenuity to get it done, but we did that type of shit where we were just like jumping off of our car port onto like a bunch of fucking mattresses and stuff, you know, like just like stupid ass shit like that, trying to do our our own little wrestling but we never took it that far i mean i actually after i went to after i watched wrestlemania 4 with my brother we were all about like how can we get involved in this wrestling and didn't quite understand that it was fake and i did get ddt

shoot ddt'd onto a tree stump like because we didn't know

We didn't know it was fake.

So my brother fucking put my head in his hand with it sticking out of the bottom because a DDT doesn't work if it's not all the way down.

It fell down on my head and I started crying.

I had to run in the house.

Everybody had these,

my friend Andrew had a farm.

His parents had a farm where they raised horses.

So they had this big horse barn and they had

a bunch of old mattresses that they put on the ground

inside this barn.

And we had a big party there.

And like we had a big wrestling match on there.

And there were mattresses on the walls of the barn or something for safety.

And somebody hit me over the head with a

lunch tray that they stole from the lunchroom.

And a piece of plastic got lodged right there under my eyeball.

And it was like sticking out of my face.

Everybody thought I was like going to go to the hospital or something, but I just pulled it out.

Not good stuff.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

You had it already.

You were like, you almost had what it takes to be a hardcore wrestler.

I thought you went over in the corner and put it under your eye.

Oh, yeah.

Blading.

I pulled the lunch tray out of my shirt.

That's known as blading in the industry.

Yeah, they were right, actually.

Only professionals do that.

You shouldn't at home go into the horse barn.

You leave that for the WCW guys.

I hated that when they said that.

It was so cool that in the early 2000s, it was such a huge epidemic that WWF had to be like, don't do backyard wrestling, please, on their TV show.

Yeah, they they had to be like G.I.

Joe PSAs.

Like,

hey, it's actually dangerous to suplex your little.

I think more than teachers, wrestling has been awful for little brothers everywhere.

I think little brothers got the worst of professional wrestling because I have two younger brothers, and I would be like, all right, hold on.

I think we know how to do a choke slam now.

And it would be like,

oh, and then if you got a friend with a pool and you could do like shit into a pool, that was like, and of course, I'm only referring to above-ground pools.

I was not in a built-in pool until

I, yeah, I figured the Columbus scumbag crew could wrap their head around this.

We got out.

Yeah, we got our next competitor is showing up here.

You want to hear that?

He's going to have to throw somebody over the rope soon.

Whichever lucky person.

Can we only have a certain amount of people on the call?

No, I think we're good.

Oh, okay.

Oh, dude.

It's Tom Sexton, everybody.

We got our second palm of the show, Double Tom.

Hey, Tom, what's up, man?

Damn, you guys are going for it.

Yeah, we're serious about the Royal Rumble thing.

Yeah, we're pretty serious about it.

And it, you know, it's devolving sort of at the level that you'd expect it to.

I'm excited.

One thing I'm happy about is we do have Gabris on here who has experience with the power hour and things like that, where there might be a lot of people, but it's getting a little bit wild.

Tom, what's your wrestling guy?

Were you a wrestling guy?

Well, I overheard y'all talking about backyard wrestling.

I was just telling somebody this story earlier.

I have a cousin named Garth who's super tall and red-headed as the day is long.

But when we were little and I could still beat him up, he had dyed his flock of red hair blue and he wore a like a denim, sleeveless cut-off jacket that had the American flag on the back with just the boss Springsteen written under it.

And his whole thing was he carried this little baseball bat that he'd wrapped in barbed wire.

I mean, it was like, you know, like it was assumed like you can't use this, but you can just kind of carry it to the trampoline as a thing.

And the night that he debuted it, he walked to the, you know, he walked out to the trampoline.

We had the, like, the very primitive, like, you know, entrance.

Like, before like WWF, the theme music was like available to buy like CD or whatever.

You know, we'd like to get a very janky copy offline and like kind of record it with cassettes and then play it when we would wrestle or whatever.

And he comes out to the trampoline and he says, I know what you guys must be thinking.

And yeah, it's true.

I am a little sick and twisted.

We just never forgot that.

I hate saying this because it's kind of embarrassing, but I think when I was 18, I know on this show,

when I was 18 or 19, at that time when Katie came over,

we got together and all that stuff.

I remember like talking to her after wrestling was on because, like I said, she wasn't allowed over when it was on, but it was on.

I'd be like, I just don't know why they won't let Steve Austin do what he wants to do.

Like, why are they always trying to keep him

from doing stuff?

Like, I could not wrap my mind around the fact that it,

I knew it was fake, but I thought there's some real things going on.

And, like, that it was like this in the early 90s, too, where people were like, WWF, yeah, that stuff's fake, but WCW, that's real.

Yeah,

ECW,

yeah, yeah, that's like UFC.

That's like Mortal Kombat.

Like, the mass transit incident obviously was, it did become real if like New Jack was involved in the mass ever.

But that's a good, and Brian's talking about Katie Katie and you know, reiterating the story where she came over so drunk that she crashed her car and they ended up

falling in love.

Uh, there's a post here from r/slash squared circle: how to get a girlfriend to begin enjoying and understanding wrestling.

Don't, just don't.

Why do you have to watch the same shit?

As a matter of fact, as you get older, you'd like nothing more than to have a separate hobby than your

girlfriend.

She goes upstairs.

Drew, yes, dude.

I go upstairs Wednesday.

Wednesday at eight o'clock.

She goes upstairs.

I sit downstairs.

I play with Legos and watch Dynamite.

That sounded worse.

It actually is.

It is a miracle that you're not the most cheated on man alive.

That's so good.

Everybody's met her.

Almost everybody, everybody but Gabriel's on this call.

Tom have met her.

She is very normal, by the way.

Yeah, she's like the nicest, sweetest, most normal person ever.

It's it's it's shocking fundamentally.

There, we don't know what it is yet, but something that brings her to Big Daddy Cool Brian.

There is

about her, you know,

when you meet her, she's just like, I'm not just saying that, like, she really is like one of those people where you're just like, you could not have a bad thing to say about her.

She just is like, she lights up the room with nice, she's just so nice, you know.

And then it's just, you just, you find yourself looking at her, just being like, yeah, what's going on?

You know, what's uh

think link twice if you need me to get you at it.

This guy, this guy, party poison, says, I've finally done the impossible.

I've gotten my girlfriend to ask me to show and explain wrestling to her.

Now, the real question is, where to start?

I was thinking to start with Max Landis's Wrestling Isn't Wrestling to give her a basis of what the medium truly is, but I'm not sure.

Maybe I should show her a relatively short bit but exciting match like Dunn versus Bait and see if it hooks her.

What do you guys think?

So, we do have some, we have some replies here.

Um, somebody does say, which I think this is nice, as you really shouldn't start with wrestling, isn't wrestling considering everything that's happened to Landis since.

And it's horrible, it sucks.

It's the watch it, just watch it for yourself, and you'll be like, This fucking sucks.

Yeah, this guy,

even if it was really good, you know, you just trying to talk my wife into liking helicopters, so we're gonna watch the Why Zone.

Why not?

And also, Pete Dunn and Tyler Bate.

That shit sucks, too.

I know.

That's like really inside or whatever.

Yeah.

Watch something good.

Watch Hulk Hogan versus the Ultimate Warrior from WrestleMania 5.

Watch that.

Well, no.

Neither of them had the

technical jobs.

Neither of them had the technical jobs.

You know, their in-ring game wasn't strong enough, and you know, it was all hype.

And I prefer the technical.

There were three moves in that match, by the way.

Yeah, exactly.

One of them, the finisher, is a scoop slam.

It's a scoop slam.

It is.

I mean, it's one of the most electric things you can ever watch.

Ultimate Warrior is the single worst wrestler who's ever been in the ring.

He didn't even know how to wrestle and he refused to learn even.

Sting and head used to be a tag team.

And Sting eventually got good.

He developed.

He was terrible at the Ultimate Warrior.

But then the Ultimate Warrior is just like, no, I'm already so great and I'm the headliner.

So who gives a shit?

So he would go and he just couldn't even wrestle, but he was so fucking good that he

comedy guys who are just energy, right?

and somehow managed to sell a crowd without writing jokes or doing that interesting ultimate warrior was that he was just truly i mean i was obsessed with him like truly i wanted to be him and then every time he cut a promo and you learned like what he believed the ultimate warriors lore was it's like crazy

that's that's when you're like i'm trying to keep i'm trying to like like brian was saying earlier that struggle you have like with wrestling and santa claus as you learn more and you're like maybe it's not real but you don't want to admit it so you're like my mom works for Santa Claus, you know, like

that.

And Ultimate Warrior and like Papa Shango and Undertaker really stretched.

You're like, all right, I'm supposed to believe this guy.

The reincarnation of thousands of warriors from Val Power.

Okay.

Man, those promos, like that, the thing about the comedy you just said, Gabris, is exactly right.

Because those promos, if you watch them, they don't make any sense.

Yeah, they don't make any sense.

If you write them down on paper, the stuff that people have done that where they transcribe ultimate warriors yeah

for fucking uh wrestling or something just goes on these long tangents and just that doesn't mean anything no idea

i love steroids and i've always loved steroids

lifelong fan of pd

shame dude

i i just i see the ultimate warrior and i'm like I wish I looked like that.

And people are like, but he died young.

And it's like, yeah, but he looked like that.

He looked so good.

But that was what he thought, too, right?

He was like a super insecure.

That was his whole thing.

He was like super insecure, and he's like, I wish I looked like that.

And then he just went to steroids, and then he started looking.

I was a thin guy that knew he was going to go bald in his 20s.

You know what I mean?

And like, the ultimate war comes out, he's on steroids, and he's vascular, and his hair is just as thick as hell.

My gosh, he looked like he should have been in poison.

Yeah,

and he really did have incredible hair and real hair.

Like, it wasn't, it was just like this real natural.

He was like, was he supposed to be like the net?

I guess he thought of himself as the next ascendant to like a Hulk type person.

Sure.

They did.

He must have fucking

hair, too.

Hulk Hogan's so funny.

I think one of the funniest things in the world, Hulk Hogan and a Macho Man, when you like look at them when they were at their height and they were both like ugly bald guys.

And both, they were the color of hot dogs.

Yeah.

And they were just jet

Yeah, we talked about it in the beginning when just DB, Ryan, and I were here.

We looked at some photos of the Macho Man at the end of his life.

And yeah,

he did a number on his skin.

You know what I mean?

Like, truly, I think, like, one of the moments the scales fall from your eyes with wrestling and you realize they are just kind of like ugly, decrepit guys.

The first time you see Hulk Hogan without the bandana,

holy, that's like no one's ever had that hair configuration.

Like, no one ever kept the lie going when everyone knows the lie is a lie.

I think we all saw it for the first time, of course, in the same place.

We all saw it on the Bubble Love Sponges security camera.

Well, I would say that

Vince McMahon would have probably paid billions of dollars for a bandana that stays on while you wrestle.

Oh, yeah.

That's the issue with Hogan.

It was like, he had the bandana on when he came out, and you could be fooled that I did this when I was in my 20s I'd grow my hair real long on the sides and then wear a hat

And then you're walking around like this guy's probably got the most hair in the world Because he means nobody would be walking around with long hair like a head of hair underneath that hat I've always suspected Jay Mascus was bald using that same tactic

It's such a smart move because then it like I would have the hair wing out on the sides.

Oh, yeah.

And I'd pee wings so

yeah, I'd be so balding, but it would look like, man, this guy, he just, he doesn't know what to do with his hair.

He doesn't want to be up brushing it all day.

So he just puts his hat on.

Yeah, yeah.

They're just like, you figure the people who are seeing you are like, okay, this guy who's got a hat on every day.

I have the problem where I wear a hat all the time and I don't have like, but I'm not bald, but I wear my hat all the time and I have for a long time.

And I think probably most people assume that I'm very bald.

And I just have to accept that.

You know, you guys like Robin did and wear the Rasta hat with the built-in dreads so everyone thinks you guys

I do wonder

I do wonder at times how mad Hulk Hogan is at Stone Cold Steve Austin for like shaving his head.

He's just bald.

Yeah, he's just bald.

He's like, the motherfucker got over.

And then Hulk Hogan never shaved his head.

Like he still

goes out with the bandana and the long hair on.

And then there's also rumors that the fucking guy wears a bandana with hair sticking out of the box.

That's 100% what he's got.

You said Vince McMahon should have done the science research.

He got in touch with fucking Brett Michaels, the other guy, famous for a bandana with hair built into it.

Vince McMahon took all he took all his power of like, you know, that and he used it to turn himself into an old Hispanic man.

You know,

oh, with a mustache, yeah.

Oh, we got a new

the hit the countdown.

Folks, it's John Collin from the POD cast.

This is the person that Brian is going to be the least excited to see on the call.

But the only reason for that, the only reason for that.

He kicked Jesse out after like two minutes.

That's true, Jesse.

For you guys who are on the call right now and you don't realize Jesse Farrar was the second person on the show, show, but we eliminated him when he made us an hour.

He brought the pod to a screeching halt.

Because he started saying, I love Marty Giannetti and all his life.

I did shots with Marty Giannetti one night at Mulcahy's on.

We're not bringing

Janetti back up.

Janetti.

Brian.

He was fucking hammered talking to like 19-year-old girls.

They were just talking about.

Brian was just talking about the post that he made on Facebook where he was talking about this woman says she's my daughter, but I took a DNA test and she's not my daughter.

Should I fuck her?

That's what they were just talking about.

Yeah, and that was what we were talking about when Jesse was on it.

We're like, hey, Jesse's Marty Jannetti of these two things.

And then Brian brought that up and Jesse started saying, I don't want to be Janetti.

And we kicked him off the call.

I didn't realize this was a Royal Rumble where everyone just stays in.

We're all laying in the corners, heavy breathing, just while everyone's kind of just hanging on the rope.

We're doing a lot of hanging out.

The reason I said that, I do want to clarify.

It's because John and Brian just did a very long podcast together, like 30 minutes ago.

So that's all I mean by that.

Let everybody know I've rolled under the bottom rope and I'm hiding outside of the ring for when everybody is with you.

That's exactly what you do.

John, John, just as you quickly joined, do you still watch wrestling or did you ever watch wrestling?

Yes, I watched wrestling.

Very dedicated Attitude Era fan of the WWE.

And then,

yes, okay.

At the time, they didn't get the F out until the 2000s.

The story, yes, indeed.

The F was

they got the F out in the middle of the Attitude Era.

So there's really no reason for you to even interject there, Brian.

Yeah, but he's a big fan of saving the pandas.

Yes,

exactly.

And then, yeah, I would say I still watch it occasionally, but not like a diehard fan, but I'm aware of what's going on in WWE.

You're like all elite rest.

You watch AEW.

That's true.

Um, uh, we're talking about right now, don't talk bad about AEW on here.

I'm trying to get a job there.

Um, well, doing what you know, being a jobber.

I want to help booking the show.

I do

go there,

Ryan.

Did you

decide who wins and loses?

How we tell the stories.

They get me in there.

I have ideas.

You almost feel like

I have Tony Khan's information.

He's the owner of AEW.

I'm not joking.

I sent him a message.

He's going to be here on Saturday.

He's going to be here on Saturday at the convention center where I take my craps.

So I'll already be there taking a crap.

Well,

do you have like a pitch packet?

Usually the way this works, you know, for other jobs is, you know, we kind of see what you would do with the position if you had it.

Is there something like a new character you would bring?

Maybe someone who like, no, I I slightly.

Okay, you have nothing, no ideas.

You just say, okay,

no, that's awesome.

I work with the characters on

to be offer.

Brian's going to meet Tony Khan and be like, look,

I don't have anything prepared, but I have a lot of ideas and I think you should hire me.

And Brian thinks Tony Khan is going to be like, all right, let's be honest.

Tony Khan's stupid ass probably would be like that.

He would probably be like, yeah, why don't you fit right in with the other bookers here if you got no fucking ideas.

Well, that's true.

There are about 27 guys working there all with bad ideas.

That's why they need me to come in there.

Maybe even just have me come in here and be like, whoa, that's a bad idea.

Get out of here.

Like to the guys that are in there pitching ideas, I'll say the bad ideas because I know all about as a total outsider with no experience in the industry whatsoever.

You're saying you want to come in.

There's a lot of experience in the industry, actually.

So we're going to get back to this.

We're going to get back to this.

We've watched it since, you know, as a fan?

That's what you think counts as experience in the industry?

Yeah, experience watching the industry.

And then also

this is how I got to direct my first feature: just telling him I've seen a bunch of movies.

Yeah, exactly.

Let me do Shang Chi.

I haven't been.

What I would say to Tony first, let me say this.

What I would say to Tony Khan first is I would say, I went to the first six pay-per-views

of all elite wrestling.

Damn.

I'm dedicated I'm your most loyal in person you did

you must be

yes I did I traveled to the first

like how you like when you're having a conversation with a business person that you want to elevate yourself to a position not like a fan of

this guy travels you know what I mean like he'd look at me like as a guy that's been around Yeah, yeah, yeah, to come to his shows.

Yes, to come to his show.

And he'll respect that too.

Well, I did, I sent him an email, and that's not a joke.

So I have his.

Tell him I'll be at the fucking, I'll come over to the convention center.

I'll take my crap and then I'll come and sit down with him and tell them all my ideas are like, have this guy wrestle this guy and just have a match.

And then, when it's over, we'll figure out what comes next, which will be they'll have another match.

Just quickly, before we bring on our next guest here, we're talking about how to get your wife into wrestling on a Reddit post here.

Walmart West says, Your problem is you're trying to get her involved in the actual wrestling.

You need to get her involved in the storyline.

So,

that's a lot of people upvoted that.

They thought that's a great, and then we got a reply from Schlerbo McBundle, who says, I think if you showed anybody a great match, they'd get into wrestling.

That has a lot of down votes.

I guess they're saying women don't understand wrestling.

Do you think he's got

just the worst intro ever?

Libby Watson.

Waiting.

Hi, guys.

Quick question.

What is wrestling?

I was going to say, this is perfect timing.

You can actually tell us, would you care about a five-star match, Libby?

Nobody's saying that.

Let's ask,

as we've asked all the guests so far, have you ever watched wrestling when you were younger, and do you watch wrestling now?

Yeah, I watched WWF a ton as a kid, and I was really upset that Owen Hart died on my birthday.

Oh,

watching that.

That's another thing I could tell Tony Khan, to be clear.

I was watching that live, too.

I remember that.

I did too.

I did too, Gabe.

Wait, wait, can I just stop everyone for a second?

Because

we brought up the death of Owen Hart, and I heard Brian just say that's something else I could tell Tony Khan.

Can you elaborate on what you mean by that?

I'd be like, I was watching live when Owen Hart died.

Great.

That's how big of a wrestling fan.

I was watching live.

I thought it all happened from the rafters.

I was holding a file in one hand.

I remember.

I remember when that pay-per-view was on.

Yeah.

And I also watched.

Oh, go ahead.

Sorry.

And by the way, everyone, you don't need to worry too much.

I am going to edit this episode, believe it or not.

So if you feel like, oh man, don't worry.

I'm going to edit the episode.

And I have what's known as individual audio tracks.

So that's going to save us a lot.

Go ahead, Tom.

I want to hear it.

What the hell?

No, no, no.

I just thought,

you know, it's obviously not funny, the tragedy of Owen Hart's death, but I thought it was funny how they handled it on the pay-per-view, cutting to badass Billy Gunn and rogue dog Jesse James.

I was like, something

strange is afoot here.

And they were just like, prayers up for you, buddy.

Keep.

Keep plugging.

And then they just went to the match.

The show must go on.

Yeah, kudos to the people who decided the show must go on and they should continue that wrestling event, even though the guy had died.

I was watching that live.

I was watching when the dogfaced gremlin broke his neck at Rick Steiner.

He jumped off

and did like a flying headbutt and then stopped moving.

And then I was also watching live when Papa Shango cursed Ultimate Warrior for real and made all that black stuff come down his forehead and on his face.

That was when I was young enough that I was legitimately scared.

I was like, this Papa Shango guy should be banned from the fucking

Papa Shanko

Warrior.

He's giving Ultimate Warrior bad politics, man.

He's giving him bad politics.

He's making him homophobic in real time.

Somebody call a good wizard, really quick.

We need a good wizard.

We're talking right now.

We're talking about,

I'm the person who's trying to read the posts.

And I'm also the one who decided to have eight people on, so don't feel too bad.

But we're talking about getting your girlfriend into wrestling.

A couple of good ideas.

Our friend Schlerbo McBundle replied to one saying, hey, if you show anyone a cool match, they're going to get into wrestling.

That got downvoted into oblivion.

But he came himself in the thread to reply and just say, just show her a cool match.

So

he's standing by it.

He thinks that is the key.

But this is the final reply we have for how to get your girlfriend into wrestling and make her interested.

This is from Geezy3,

and it says, Let's show her how a tag team works.

Oh, no.

That sounds like he's going to fuck her.

Yeah, good call, Brian.

I hadn't even thought of that possibility, but I think you might be right, actually.

You could say that.

Do you think any of these guys posting in the Reddit, how do I get my wife to watch wrestling, would watch one minute of Below Deck with their partner or anything like that?

These people are all like, I need my wife to watch wrestling.

She's begging me to watch Real Housewives with her, but that shit's stupid.

None of these fucking women are like,

Yeah, Real Housewives is stupid.

It's all kind of fake and corny.

Everybody is just not real.

Everyone looks insane.

They're hated Jim Heights and versions of themselves.

Yeah.

She's doing the angry.

She's doing the angry mom gimmick, but it's like, yeah, it's not fucking.

I'll say, I will say that, like, if your wife can watch.

Kazuchika Okada versus

what the fuck?

Now I forget the guy's name.

It's my favorite match ever.

And I feel like this isn't going to go well with Tony Khan when you have your big meeting.

Matsuyori Shibata versus Kazuchka Okada from Dominion.

I forget what year it was, but that one I didn't go to, but I would have gone to.

And I did watch, and I've watched it several times.

It's the one where Shibata almost died.

I'll tell Tony Khan I was watching that one.

That's the one where a guy headbutts another guy and he doesn't do it in a fake way because he wants to be big and strong.

And he like breaks his headbook.

And then Dave Meltz goes on his radio show and says, actually, they had to take Shibata's brain out of his head and put it back in.

Dave Meltzer is like the big wrestling guy.

People still goof on him for that.

He's the big wrestling journalist, basically, that everybody hates on all the time.

I'm a big Melzer guy.

He's so

Ponycon, too.

This is a very important post, and it's a long one here.

And it is from

this one's from Wrestling Forum or Wrestling Observer, the forums there that I got in.

Thanks to producer Dan for giving me his password because that is a closed off forum

I Said I said I won't post anything and he said you can go ahead so I am gonna post some pretty inflammatory threads on there when I'm done with this this this poses a very important question though

Excuse me will pro wrestlers ever get the respect they deserve?

I'm sure people on here know that pro wrestling is a very tough business mentally and physically, but majority of people seem to think pro wrestlers are a joke and wrestling is gay and fake.

And it is true.

I'm telling you, that's what everybody says all the time.

Big time reading about this stuff.

These guys travel, wrestle 300 days a year.

I mean, Hulk Hogan does 400, but have to keep up with gym diet, wrestle a couple times a week while traveling and still manage to keep up in shape.

Even with steroids, this is no easy task.

Most of them have better bodies than pro bodybuilders, just my opinion, while also being able to wrestle 10, 15, 20-minute matches while bodybuilders seem to get gassed out just by walking, talking most of the time.

Okay, okay, let's lay off bodybuilders, man.

Well, just hang on.

He's got other people he's going to hammer on too, not just bodybuilders.

Take a look at Prime Batista, Kane, Brock, Drew, et cetera, and tell me these guys don't look better than Coleman and Butler, for example.

They do, at least in my opinion.

These guys are not just walking muscle balls.

They actually have very aesthetic

physiques plus agility, strength, and good cardio on top of that.

No.

Some of them have super strength that could rival some of pro strong ones while also being able to wrestle for 15 to 20 minutes and have aesthetic physiques.

Some of them are really good actors.

And while it's fun to make fun of some botches and bad mic skills, we got to remember these guys do this live with no second tries most of the time.

And actors have multiple tries until they get perfect scenes.

I say they're doing pretty good with what they they have.

I know this will probably piss off way more people, but I think pro wrestling is way tougher than MMA.

Now before you get at me, let me explain.

I'm well aware that anything can happen in MMA fights.

You can even get disabled or die every time you go out.

Same goes for pro wrestling.

You could get knocked out and or knock someone out in 20 seconds, or you could wrestle for 20 minutes and not take much damage or just get submitted and lose quickly.

You also fight two to three times a year max.

In wrestling, on the other hand, you could also lose quick, but you could go 20 minutes while taking multiple chair shots, slams, get thrown on floor, through tables, et cetera, and do it multiple times, not just one, two, three times a year.

So what do you guys think about that?

Wrestlers, the toughest, strongest, best guys in the world?

I don't think that, but I do agree that wrestling is more dangerous than MMA.

I do agree with that because they do insane things that MMA people don't have to do.

You know what I mean?

Like they jump off of high things and sometimes they die or kill their families.

This is the guy.

That is true.

They do that.

He's buried alive, too.

Jesus Christ.

Yeah, stake you, Mike.

They get buried alive.

UFT ain't doing that shit.

Yeah,

I'd love to see an MMA guy end up in a casket and get struck by lightning and then come out of it later on a few months later.

John Bone Jones is back.

Ethan Jones is back.

Oh my God.

I do.

I just realized there's a reply to this one, so I want to read the end of his actual post.

He posted some more stuff, you know.

He says the word disabled a lot in the post, so I'm just, I'm not going to read the whole thing.

You know, and it's good.

That's the good thing about wrestling is that any at any time, any one of these guys can become disabled and they don't have health insurance.

What do you guys think?

Will they ever be recognized for being some of the hardest working athletes and for putting their lives at risk almost daily for our entertainment?

And it gets a reply from the one WWE fan guy, and it just says, no, probably not.

I agree, by the way, that like.

I don't like to be one of these guys that starts to take wrestling so seriously where I have to defend their athleticism and stuff like that.

You know, because there are guys that are like, oh, I mean, I think some of them are probably better shaped than a football player, really.

What I was going to say, actually, is like, if they want to get mad, my advice to them is aim higher and get mad about football guys being beloved and famous and rich and stuff.

You know, don't bother with the MMA guy.

Who the fuck knows about MMA?

You know, get mad about Tom Brady.

Tom Brady is

paid to circus peanuts anyway.

You know what I mean?

And Tom Brady has been in the WWE, though, I'm pretty sure.

Oh, he has.

And Gronk was.

I'm kind of confused about the ideal male physique being 200 days a year of trend bloat and then like 100 days of like, you know, being chiseled.

But, you know,

of Miller Light and fucking Kway Luds on

a panning bed.

Wait a second.

If the wrestlers aren't healthy, how come all of them keep dying when they're 32?

I do remember on Opi and Anthony that that was one of the sort of funny bits that Sam.

Do you remember it, Brian that he would that he would uh he would go through the wrestlers that had died you know yeah yeah

if they died of natural causes and

no no he did not

bam bam bigelow 36 you know

who do you guys think would be the hardest wrestler to beat in real life

like in real life who do you think would be the winner someone huge like big show or someone with martial arts experience like steve blackman chris benoit is widely considered the best ever technical wrestler and was absolutely ripped.

I think he'd be up there.

When was that post written about that?

It's a really funny person to go.

One of my favorite technical wrestlers, absolute killer in the ring, is Chris, the Canadian.

Wait, how come you don't go by the Canadian crippler, Chris?

You are so sad.

That's a good question.

I used to go by that, and now it's, I guess, considered to be in poor taste.

So, yeah, I mean, so I started going by that, I guess, I want to say two, three years ago, and then I guess

apparently it's become poor taste now.

This is a guy who started watching Raw from the beginning, but doesn't read the news also.

No spoiler.

No, he just showed up on Raw out of nowhere.

He's down to earth.

That's a nice idea, John.

But I find that the news and wrestling fandoms have such overlap, I can't even imagine that.

That's true.

That's a good point.

Listen, we got our final.

This is, I got a really exciting.

I was like, listen, we got to get a real super famous celebrity final guest.

So, what I did was I had somebody else, a booker, do this for me and say, surprise me, you know, bring in, get us a geek, big, big name guest to carry the episode.

And so, I don't know who this person is, but I can see somebody showed up, camera off.

Let's get that countdown going and see who we got.

Oh, what the fuck?

Hey, guys.

My God, King.

Stefan.

Are you guys?

Can I say this?

There is a wrestler in Mexico,

and his name is, I'll play a clip of the guy saying it,

the announcer saying it.

So there is a wrestler named Buck Christ.

You could also be

the Chris.

Stefan, thanks for joining us.

I'm really excited for the big celebrity guest you have planned.

It's Gabris.

It's Gabris.

He's been here.

Whoa.

That's the level of fame we're looking at.

The guy with a Patreon podcast is the most famous for him.

It's a really good podcast.

I'm going to let Libby throw me over the top rope real quick, but I just want to say I trained at, because I'm from Long Island, you join a gym in ninth grade, and I started training at Gold's Gym when I was in ninth grade.

And whenever the pay-per-view was at Nassau Coliseum, or Raw was at Nassau Coliseum, rather, that Monday,

WWE wrestlers would drop in the Golds and lift weights.

And I missed it one day because I had to fucking do some stupid after-school shit.

And the next day I went in, everyone was talking about how strong Kane was.

They said Vader was obviously really strong, but Kane was so surprisingly strong.

There's like some 17-year-old meatheads just discussing

Vader repping 405 on the bench or whatever.

And so they are actual athletes.

Vader is clearly a very healthy athlete.

I mean, Vader, Vader was legendary for being a super mobile big man, you know?

DB voted for Kane in the election this year, I think.

Tom did, yeah.

All right, we're throwing.

We're throwing Gabris Oda.

We're throwing Gabrielis Odin.

Maybe you guys didn't realize you can definitely.

I put it in the thing.

You can ask to leave.

You don't have to stay for the whole time.

It would be funny if everyone left except for me.

I go to shake Libby's hand, like, we're in this together.

Then she kicks me in the nuts and tosses me right over the top rope.

That's my signature.

He's gone.

All right, Gabris.

Second elimination.

Second elimination after, of course, Jesse Farrar, who only lasted only lasted one minute on the show.

That's usually.

You always have one of those, right?

You always have one of those on the Royal Rumble, the guy who runs out and then

too a lot.

Yeah, what's that?

He only lasts like one or two minutes.

Well,

DB just made that joke first, actually.

No, I did it first.

That's just not like

you guessed he only lasted one minute.

Like, you mean when he's having

a sexual ending?

That's good, Joe.

Okay.

Okay, I'm writing this down in my book.

Tony Khan, what if we said

a wrestler only lasts at one minute?

You're pictures are going to be like, hey, what if you had a wrestler who like pulled a tree stump out from under the ring and DDT'd someone?

It's only stumped.

What if a wrestler's girlfriend drove her car into a tree during wrestling?

Genuinely, a pro wrestler with your backstory would be unbelievable.

This guy can't take drinks in normal toilets.

He has to go to the space center where the toilets are powerful.

Oh, yeah.

Tony Khan.

Yeah, Yeah, fuck.

That's why he's not

bad today.

Cody Cobb's like every time, like the bell, like anytime there's a brawl, they go into the bathroom and they accidentally kick over the door and I'm sitting there like, oh, my God, I'm pooping.

Folks, what's the K-Fabe logic behind wrestlers appearing from under the ring with perfect timing if they aren't watching a TV under there?

They can hear what's happening.

Well, let's get into it, Stefan.

There's some replies.

This is from R squared circle.

So the Kfabe is the sort of like the suspended disbelief, the fake.

So what's this K-Fabe explanation for how that happens?

It shows a real lack of imagination, doesn't it?

You can't imagine that they're having a nice little time down there with the telly, and maybe it's like a man cave type situation.

Some people can.

Some people can't.

So this person says, having been under a ring while people are wrestling, you hear everything very, very loudly.

But what breaks Kayfabe about watching the live show on your phone or whatever?

I'm just signified to picture

Seth Rollins under the ring on his phone.

That's so embarrassing.

He's like turning the phone and he keeps freaking to unlock the screen because it's still in.

He's like, oh, it's turned to start.

You know?

Yeah, yeah.

So somebody replies, though, and is saying, what's stopping, what's breaks Kayfabe about watching the live show on your phone or whatever?

And somebody has an answer for that, says, the delay?

Most of the time, live broadcasted shows aren't truly live they're usually delayed by a few seconds or sometimes even a minute or three um and then that the the person who said the original thing says oh completely uh i just don't think kfabe includes the use of tech so i think that person

is uh there's a little bit unclear about what is kfabe and what is not vicious cauliflower says i mean there's nothing anti-kayfabe about them having a tv under there or hell just streaming the show on their phone and then this person says the kfabe reason is they base their appearance on the reaction of the crowd or ring the bell

but pig deployer has a better answer

says

it's called ring awareness that's true

some of the best wrestlers out there have great ring awareness the hitman brad hart yeah oh we saw him we saw him brian he didn't really look too aware when we saw him

he did not he did not but i do when he wasn't was he in a ring stefan was no that's a good point he doesn't have good being on stage awareness or like walking around awareness.

He has bad on-time awareness.

I was going to say awareness didn't, he wasn't in a ring, but he felt, it felt like his awareness was so low that you could have told him he was and he would have believed you.

And that maybe would have raised his awareness.

So maybe they should have done that.

I do have a one-of-one Bret Hart signed.

Do you still have it or did you, because you sat on it and broke it?

It's in my drawer with my Legos.

I'd have to dig it because it's under all the Legos.

Right.

But

it's in one of my drawers with the Lego.

Just because it are you saying like a drawer of loose Legos, or are you saying all the sets are in there stacked on top of it?

I'm behind him right now on camera.

You can see them.

No, that's not all the sets.

That's like not even a third.

I've never seen Brian.

I've never seen Brian more offended than he just was there.

You think this is all my sets?

He's like, I need more of it.

You are underestimating what a fucking geek I am.

Are you joking?

Oh, that's not fair.

Yeah, this is the best.

That's actually a fraction of my power

I'm like I don't have a whole lot of I have way a lot of Legos and some really big opinions on wrestling

but do you have a drawer of loose legos that was

two of them so the top drawer behind me is loose legos the next drawer down is magic tricks

magic tricks magic tricks they're not really mad don't don't call them magic tricks they're magic tricks the drawer under that is loose legos

Sorry.

No, no, no.

We can't do that.

Magic tricks are switching between two drawers of loose Legos.

It's Legos, Magic Tricks, Legos.

And then I assume the fourth drawer is pills.

No.

The fourth drawer is.

Of course, my papers.

No, don't ever be more Legos.

It's Legos.

And then the drawer under that is Lego instruction manuals.

Okay, so it is papers.

It is

papers.

It's like his papers under Lego.

It's his documents.

Let's have my files down there.

Your documents.

I just LLC'd the company today.

Wow, congrats, Brian.

Welcome.

Chris James now works for Violence Gang LLC.

I mean, he sent me the like, he sent me the certification from the governor or whatever, so proudly.

The most investigated LLC in history.

I cannot wait and sit down and say, I'm taking my Violence gang, legit.

I just want to clarify.

I just want to clarify the reason he's doing that.

So this is, this comes out a few weeks after

we did our merch.

We did our first merch drop, which went super well.

People bought a lot of merch, and it was great.

And so then we did it on Shopify, and they have the money.

It's hooked up to Brian.

You know, Brian's on the account.

And

comes time to get the money.

And we can't get it because Brian doesn't have a bank account.

I do have a bank account.

I don't have a business bank account.

But you don't need one.

Anyways,

go get you a green dot card from the gas station.

It's problem solved.

I'm attending my first WWE live event tonight.

What should I be

prepared for?

I'll tell you what, you should be going to WWE.

As the title says, I'm treating myself for my birthday and taking my son to our first live wrestling event.

I've never been to the show and want to make it a great experience for my son as a way to hopefully get him to enjoy wrestling like I did at his age.

Any advice on things to look out for or not to do to make it an event we both want to do again?

And the first reply says from Lizard King.

That's good.

Make sure you shower.

That's a good point at a wrestling show.

I've never been to one.

But it doesn't matter if you shower, though, because it's everyone else, right?

You may want to bring some Febreze with you in case others aren't as considerate.

And the original poster replies and says, okay, so between this thread and the search page that this person linked me to, I'm no longer thinking these comments are in jest.

He's fucking right.

It smells at a wrestling.

They have a matter of time.

It's chicken kid to a Friday night magic event, which I have heard.

That's what I read, is that it does have, a lot of them do have that similar feel of there are people who, I guess, don't leave the house a lot or aren't

magic, magic the gathering, yeah, magic cards.

Now, I now, Tom is sort of the magic cards guy here, but my understanding is that magic events smell basically as bad as wrestling events.

Is that right?

Yeah, yeah,

that's what I'm saying.

He is saying that, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I think it's the same.

I think those ones are

those are the ones in,

you know, just like conventions.

Like, well, remember, we went to TwitchCon, Stephan, the one year we went when it was really packed in with people.

That was bad, yeah.

That was the only time I've ever had that experience where it was just like the whole, everything smelled.

You couldn't get away from it.

It just became this smell in there that was just like awful.

I hate it.

It's why I've never gone back to TwitchCon ever again.

Wrestling shows smell like you're inside of a guy's underwear.

I'm kind of stuck on the advice to bring your own Febreze.

Like, are you Febrezing other guys?

Are you looking over and being like, sorry, dude, I just got a

I think you're doing a speedrun to get assaulted in front of your son.

So he can

get what he gets.

It bumps me out for a guy to be like, I'm treating myself for my birthday.

I would like to take my son who's not a wrestling fan to wrestling.

Those shows are fucking five hours long.

And you're taking your son who I took my daughter to wrestling.

She wanted to go.

This was when she watched wrestling.

She wanted to go.

She got into it on her own.

Yeah.

It's funny you say that.

The first thing I ever, I was like, you got to check out this wrestling.

And then I showed her the mankind

Undertaker, Helena South.

How old was she when you showed her that?

Six.

Yeah,

that's ridiculous.

For anyone who doesn't know, it's like

people were very sure that Man Cow had died during that show.

He was thrown off.

Man Cow died?

And I'm the host.

I'm the host today of the show, so I can be called for a flub so that people are pounding the table as flub rules.

Listen, in my defense,

it's been a very long week of doing our merchandise drop and booking this show with eight different comedians around the world and having a baby.

And I,

you know, I'm having a terrible time, and each day is worse than the last, guys.

And now, apparently, you got to pay taxes in the United States.

I have to pay taxes.

Well, I paid, I have a tax ID number in my account.

I have an account.

I have one too.

I got it today.

Yeah, congrats.

I think.

But he lives.

Okay.

Sorry.

Sorry.

Some construction is starting up near me.

So I think I'm going to walk up to Stefan and he's going to let I'm going to turn my back on him for just one second.

And then that little worm is going to.

Yeah, I know, for sure.

He's going to

the only way he could get you.

The only way he could get you over is if you turn your back.

He's taking me by unawares, of course.

Yeah.

Oh, he's gone.

Come.

Come Walker gone.

We've got throwing people out in the middle of a sentence.

That's really good.

So, this is a post from RSS Squared Circle, and we're not going to go longer than 30 more minutes, just so you guys know where we're going.

We got to go.

What do you mean?

I'm so tired.

Oh,

you want to leave the episode?

It's not 100, John.

Brian, I did another podcast before we did POD casts.

Right.

This is my fourth.

John, you want me to throw you over the top rope?

Yeah, throw me over the top rope.

Right, this is the one.

This is a 100th episode.

I'll see you.

John.

Bye, John.

It's a 100th episode of the show.

And I do want to clarify.

I'm just not about to throw you over the top rope.

He's the host.

Brian started the show.

He just, he started like before anyone was on the call.

This was within one minute of being on the show.

And he's just like, I'm so,

I'm so burnt out, man.

Like, I'm just so like, like, imagine everyone's like, man, I'll pump for the 100th episode.

Like, oh, shit, this is going to be wild.

And Brian's like, I'm really not feeling it today.

And listeners at home, this is not scripted.

So yeah, I'm not that burnt.

It's not fucking digging ditches or anything.

I'm fine.

I'm alive.

I just.

Why do people at indie shows smell so bad?

I've been going to a few indie shows here in NYC over the last few weekends.

This is the biggest thing I noticed.

Do these people have no sense of personal hygiene?

Are all indie shows filled with these kinds of people?

Not to mention

of the guys were real dicks to women wrestlers.

They kept cat calling them and being embarrassing.

That's not normal, is it, Brian?

Not

for,

I don't think it really is.

I mean, it depends on the kind of indie show you go to, right?

So if you go to an indie show for people like me,

then you're not going to hear that because it's people that like.

Are you saying you go to

progressive indie shows?

Yeah, I do.

I mean, not prov.

Oh my God.

It's not.

I'm saying, I'm not saying it's progressive.

I'm saying that there are indie shows for people who like the work of wrestling, to watch matches and stuff like that.

Let Tony Kahn know I'm talking about this.

Okay.

So it's for matches.

The people that like the matches and the construction of matches and stuff like that.

And they like to see these, what Chris makes fun of all the time, like spot fest matches.

And that's like for people like me.

And then there are other indie shows where they get a bunch of guys that used to work for WWE and they come come in the ring, they cut a quick promo, beat up an Indie Jobber, and then walk out of the place.

Those places I could totally see because the type of fans that show up aren't people who are engaging with wrestling now.

They're people who engaged with wrestling in the 80s or 90s.

Do you think that the modern day wrestling fans?

I mean, it makes sense.

I do think the modern-day wrestling fans, I think somebody did a study where it's like, of all the sports,

now I feel like a dick because I said don't study Because me, Mike, and Chris made fun of.

DB, this motherfucker just pulled out a study.

Remember,

this is such a fucking shock

radio thing to do.

This is a thing we make fun of.

Oh, my God.

It's a study about wrestling.

They recently released this.

Scientists have recently released a study.

Yeah, just like to have an in to talk about something.

You know what I mean?

They'll have this like really clunky, like they want to say something, so they'll present it as like a study or whatever.

Brian has said so many times how that is the most most pathetic thing he could do.

This is interesting.

The scientists have recently released a study that

people who watch wrestling have higher IQs.

And they also are sexier

and they take normal-sized craps.

Are you guys interested?

We've read some posts here, but you guys want to hear these wrestling guys riff and see a little bit of their comedy?

Yeah.

Yeah.

So here we go.

This is in response to the why does it smell so bad at all these indie events.

Flinster says, loneliness and cheeseburgers are a dangerous mix.

That's my lowest pod.

Why did you say a hell of a shit?

Take my outvotes.

Oh, you guys just wait.

This thread gets really bang in here.

Fancy Sack comes in and says, that's the name of my autobiography.

Okay.

And I will say, we on like every stream we do, we say that was almost the name of the stream.

And it's essentially the same joke.

So I can't really make fun of him for that.

I think that's actually very funny.

But aren't you doing it as a joke?

What, you guys are doing that in earnest?

It's

now become an earnest pitch.

Yeah,

yeah, yeah,

listen.

Thank you for taking the heat off of me for saying a recent study so that I could say wrestling fans are the most woke.

Oh, that's that's what the study was?

And that was who is that study done by?

Come on, on

the more I say it, the more embarrassed I am about bringing it up because I just remember it made waves on wrestling Twitter a few years ago.

And I was like, that's pretty nice.

You know?

Fancy Sack said that's the name of my autobiography.

Loneliness and

Cheeseburgers are a dangerous mix.

And then Crow TR2 says, or Cheeseburger's autobiography.

Oh, Cheeseburger's a wrestler.

No, no.

Oh, or.

Yes, he is.

He's a wrestler.

Oh, okay.

Because I thought it was, and I'm sure Chris did too.

Just that's what I cheeseburgers.

Only a real geek wouldn't know that.

I was pretty confused by that, yeah.

This is a great reply.

This is an absolutely fantastic reply, though, I think that we're all going to get.

Randy, what are you doing out of Sunnyvale?

Yeah.

What's Sunnyvale?

It's a trailer park, boys.

So I guess if you don't know that, you're not going to like these next two.

It's the rest of the family.

So it says, the naked chairs and Randy, what are you doing out of Sunnyville?

Hooking for burgers.

And then someone replies to that and says, $10 or six Dairy Queen coupons.

And finally,

straight out of Trailer Park Boys, the guy says, a man's got to eat.

So

that's a wrestling riff for you, Brian.

What have you pulled up here?

Oh, this is C's.

Off of our wrestling, the guy's a sneaker.

Very skinny.

I was going to say,

very skinny.

That's like...

That's the funny part about he's a jobber and he's skinny and people really like him because he's a he's a he's a jobber.

A jobber is someone who goes and does jobs.

They in wrestling a job is good.

I think he said jobby.

You guys know what a jobby is.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

A jobber is, yeah, they do a job.

We learned about jobs a while ago, actually, on a stream with the, when we played that game,

Brian, the sex game.

Okay, pussy jobs.

You guys want to play the sex game before we get out of here?

Well, I have one post.

Yeah, let's pull the sex game up.

Throw me over the ring.

throw me over the ring throw me over the ring

she doesn't want to be a part of this are you actually libby were you making a joke or would you like i was joking i was just i was uh registering my lack of consent for the sex game

yeah this is done with ai we discovered because it's like prompts and we and then one of the prompts was give your partner an anal job

i did see the pussy job part i was wondering what a pussy job might be yeah it's where you stick your podcast.

Cop being cop.

Yeah.

So let's do team really.

Team really good, Stephan.

Thank you.

What did Stefan say?

Well, Libby said, what is a pussy job?

And I said, being a cop.

Oh, nice.

Nice.

That's cool.

Oh, cool, man.

Yeah.

Oh, anti-police rhetoric.

Yeah, there's a lot of studies that say people on this

podcast are whoa.

Sorry.

Opponent, the chat, challenge for fraud.

Okay.

I mean, Chris gave me a chance.

Yeah, yeah, we played against the chat.

yeah we we gave the chat one um okay brian you ready to

try it says give give him an ass job yeah yeah you don't want an ass job okay so here we are we're here i got to set up the rules because you can't have uh oral anal toys risky or golden shower if you have icebreaker on so you can only click these because the other stuff isn't an icebreaker yeah you know what i mean uh we want to do kinky and dirty yeah yeah for sure we're quiet for golden shower

Are we doing three to eight players or just two players?

This is just two players.

Let's do two players, you know, and then we'll shuffle up these cards.

I don't want to, oh, we got to tell them the country, actually.

And you have to confirm that we're all of legal age too.

What, wherever you are, yeah, whatever legal age is where you are.

I'm playing from Vatican City or at the age of 6.

You're good.

You're good.

All right.

Shuffling up the cards here.

Me and Chris.

It'll be me and Chris against the get against the guests.

The first one is: give him him a thigh job.

He lies on his back.

You lie on him face down.

This is for you guys or for us.

You guys have to do that to us.

Okay.

Sure.

Okay.

I start doing it.

Oh, I'm jacking my penis right now.

TV gets it.

Blue, it's your turn.

Massage her tits.

She kneels in doggy style.

You are under her.

Wait, what?

What?

Wait.

You are under her.

She kneels like she's getting it.

This is a pinch.

They're just kind of hanging down.

Yeah.

And then you're massaging them.

They're kind of in your face a little bit, it feels.

Yeah, they don't suck.

Yes.

Did you guys accept this?

Oh, yeah.

We accept.

Okay, we accept this.

And

you're massaging my titties right now.

I'm massaging your tits, Stefan.

Thank you.

All right, here we go.

It's your turn.

Give him an ass job.

Use lubricant.

So you got to do that from sitting on a chair.

Ass job.

Okay.

I think my sure.

Yeah.

An ass job is anal sex.

It is anal sex.

Yeah.

So we'll.

Just to be clear,

don't try to get away with it.

You'll slap your cheeks up against it.

All right.

Finger her anus.

All right.

Let's go ahead.

I got to read it.

She kneels in doggy style and spreads her ass.

She actually helps out.

Right.

All right.

Very cool.

That's a good game.

We'll play that on the stream again next week, even every week for the rest of the day.

Did you play that on the stream?

Yeah, we play it on the stream.

It's me versus Chris in the chat.

Right.

Okay.

Yeah, it feels like some of this stuff might be mighty.

I don't know, whatever.

Libby accidentally showed, and I want to make this clear, there was a picture of a boob on Wikipedia, and she accidentally showed that on stream yesterday.

So you can show a lot of stuff on that.

Oh, no,

they already call us adult content.

We're basically porno on there.

We can do whatever we want.

We're considered adult content.

We did one stream where we just pushed it a little too far.

She's a lady with with huge titties, right?

Ladies and gentlemen,

and it was like, I think they were

Chelsea Charms.

They were, no, they were covered up, but they were so big that everyone was just the people at the Twitch were like, sorry, those are too big.

This is one of the people.

These are the people that run the swinger club Club Princeton in Columbus, Ohio.

This woman had just a massive titties.

She's like,

your neighbor, basically.

Well, it could be my neighbor, but not my neighbor.

I've never met Kitty.

Okay.

And we were watching a lot of

kitty.

Kitty.

Okay.

I mean, there were a lot of pornographic material on our stream.

We've had to create a new tier on the Patreon to deal with it.

I was just, I just spent a while a few weeks ago there censoring all of the breasts on the Man Cow DVD

and pussies on there as well.

So, we definitely have mistakenly showed boobs and stuff as well on stream.

It can happen.

It's a mistake, you know what I'm saying?

Yeah.

Yeah,

I thought I knew what you were saying until you used that tone.

No, that's the I try tone.

I try.

Oh, yes, of course.

Ryan's first words ever on radio.

I try.

I have one final post

that I'm going to read.

It is a video game rant about WWE 13 on r slash squared circle.

This is from Chef McDuck.

He's a WWE nut hugger, and he's pretty fucking pissed off.

He says, says, My bleeping, angry suggestions for WWE 13.

One, stop running your goddamn online servers on a Pentium 486.

I swear to God, it took me three months of trying to download Chris Jericho to finally succeed in doing so.

My next attempt is to get that sweet Lord Tensei, but by the time I get him downloaded, the gimmick will probably be dead.

Fix this or stop advertising all these awesome CAWs scrolling by my screen on the main menu.

He wants to to portensi.

You fix this fucking pin system and you fix it now.

This piece of shit is the dumbest system ever implemented.

How could anyone approve this?

Do you test your games?

Apparently, nobody in your almost out-of-business company has nephews.

Well, they'll be pretty stupid now.

Because playing this game with a couple of 10-year-olds will prove to you how fucking dumb this pin system is.

Guess what they do when they're getting pinned?

They press all the buttons like a wild man.

Just in case some of you guys were thinking that the pin system was some sort of pin password thing.

No, he's talking about the pinning in the game.

Okay.

Well, we knew.

Yeah.

Well, I don't know if everyone did, but only you would think that.

I'm not addresses.

Yeah, we're all smart.

I showed them how to use the kickout system, and they don't even understand.

One of them got the hang of it and only managed to kick out once.

Fucking once.

It's in all caps.

Don't tell me I don't know how to use it because I fucking diddly do.

I can use it to kick out.

It still sucks.

Now he somehow managed to reformat his post where he's got some of the words really big.

And I don't even know how you do this, but that's crazy.

The pin system, this is in huge letters.

The pin system should appear right when the guy's skin touches yours, not when the ref counts.

Stupid, stupid, stupid.

But that's not how wrestling works.

Do you know how annoying it is having to wait until the referee starts counting to one before the graphics even appear on the screen?

Kicking out is a frantic thing to do.

Nobody wants to slow down and play some goofy ass mini-game.

Fix this shit.

Three, but not really that important.

Your models this year looked like Herpaderp the third.

What?

Do interns make your character models?

I can forgive the graphics because you did manage to make the game's replay value fun again.

And I feel like the AI was well done this year.

That's all I'm going into.

I feel like WWE 12 was the best game in the SmackDown series, and the revamps they made were great, but they fucked it up with this one.

Did a real pussy job on this game.

So I think that sort of shows a little bit of the...

It's an angry group.

They're very angry.

They are very insecure about wrestling being fake and

about

how they have to always respond to that.

And one thing we didn't really get into, but we'll get into more on the guys plus where we do more wrestling,

is that they

like to

give suggestions and they have a lot of good ideas, much like me too.

I've been giving a lot of people.

Much like Brian, the stuff Brian was doing this episode, talking to Tony Khan, that is the main thing they are doing online is they are basically trying to give suggestions.

And actually,

there's one here

where there was a bunch of suggestions in this thread on the Wrestling Observer, and this guy, Matt B, said, people in AEW are obviously reading this thread.

I'm not kidding.

They are, though.

So these guys, Brian included, they believe when they're writing this stuff that they are actually writing it directly to the people who are in positions of power.

And that's why it makes for some of the worst posts you'll ever see because they write in these formats like they think that they're journalists and they're writing all of their things like with headers and like they're like citing things and stuff.

And it's just insufferable.

I mean, I could not believe how long some of the posts were and threads that go on for thousands and thousands.

They've been going on for 30 years, it feels like.

And every post on it is 5,000 words.

It sort of feels like when a kid kid is running for class president and they promise to like abolish homework or something, right?

Yeah.

I would be like, don't do any more of these backstage segments.

Let's get rid of the backstage segments.

We don't want an invisible camera.

We don't want to hear to see two guys talking because that's not real.

How would they ever catch two guys having that conversation?

Number one.

Number two,

nobody talking from the screen to the guy in the ring.

You got to cut that out.

That doesn't read as real at all and then you got to make sure that we're literally we're on a video call right now

yeah

no but you can't do that it's and hey don't play people's music when they run in that's another thing how would the music start playing you know what i mean so but if but if you have like if your complaint is that it those things are not realistic enough Wouldn't you also want it to be like more wrestlers like dying in the ring and stuff and being like severely injured and breaking their neck?

I like it when they pretend to be hurt.

And some of them do die and get hurt in the ring.

But you should not be able to use any like dark powers and stuff like Undertaker does.

You should not be able to do any dark-sided shit like that.

I don't want to see that.

I agree, Mike.

I agree.

I would say Christian man.

I don't want to see that shit.

I'm not.

Don't have guys doing these segments where they put a camera on them and then they're like, this is all at MJF.

I'm like playing a piano.

It's like, I don't give a fuck about it.

I'm watching this

program one day removed from going to church, and I simply don't want to see any of this nastiness.

I don't want to see The Undertaker or Papa Shango.

We don't want to see The Undertaker and his nasty.

I mean, that's what there are real people who are like, they really feel that way.

That like, they talk about when was the Kayfabe lost?

And they say, like, the Attitude Era or like Undertaker and places like that, you know, that like they want it to go back to this era where people thought it was real and it seemed real.

And I just don't think that they understand it is but I don't think that they understand that like the world has evolved to a point where I just don't know

what I'm saying

about that yeah I am saying that they should pretend it's real like when they're doing it when they're doing

it They should pretend it's real.

I don't need to think it's real, but I just want them to act like it's fucking sports.

You know what I mean?

Like, that's all I want from wrestling.

I don't want wrestling to be some like art.

I want it to be sports.

You talk about watching football?

Yes.

No.

Have you never considered watching a sport?

Baseball?

I go to baseball.

Well, you go there too.

You like hockey.

You go to hockey too.

Ice cream out of a mini.

Yeah, you had ice cream at the hockey game, too.

Maybe wrestling needs more ice cream.

Maybe if wrestling ice cream,

yeah.

They do have ice cream at wrestling, but not as good, like not the soft serve.

Need better ice cream.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, wrestling needs better ice cream,

and it would be nice if they have one of those.

I feel like that's a suggestion you could actually make because you could probably talk to the talking about they do their fucking event.

If they come to Columbus, they do the event at the same place that the blue jackets play where you ate your ice cream, you just have to pay for a whatever sweet you can't get a luxury box for wrestling.

Unfortunately, they don't run, they don't run the diamond seller club for wrestling.

And I've been in a suite to watch wrestling, Money in the Bank.

I forget what year it was, but I was up in a suite.

Oh, shit, bragging about like, okay, I get it.

You can afford it.

And I got,

what did I get?

Oh, they got pizza, but no ice cream.

And the pizza was Papa John pizza.

Imagine that disagree.

Imagine a toddler going to an event.

Oh, they had pizza, but they didn't have it.

I had pizza, but they didn't have ice cream.

No chocolate milk.

It was all pop.

So, yeah, I love the hockey.

I love hockey.

I really,

I got a lot of joy out of that hockey game.

I did.

Steph and I are going to a hockey game.

No, we're, we're sitting.

We're going to pay attention to the game.

We're sitting close.

We went lower bowl trying to get up to game.

We're going to give you free food there.

No, we're going to watch the food.

No, I mean, we're not going for the food.

We're going to watch the hockey game.

If the food's overpriced there, we'll eat before.

You know what I mean?

It's free.

No, it's no, because you would.

Somebody needs to explain to this guy the concept of free.

This guy pays $900 for his ticket.

He's like, holy shit, I got all this free soft survivors.

I told Gwen and her boyfriend I'd take her to a hockey game.

And I started looking.

I was like, that's going to be like $2,000.

You were going to take them to a suite, or were you going to take them to a suite?

Yes, I don't go to hockey unless I'm going to the diamond seller game.

Well, you could go to the suite and they could get some really shitty suits.

I like that.

I do that.

I've seen this before.

He'll do that.

He'll do that.

Like, you're saying it as a joke.

Like, it's just such a funny thing to say, but he would do that and he wouldn't think anything of it.

I almost made them fly economy, and I flew first on the way home from California last year.

But then I was like, I'd feel too guilty if I did that.

But I was like, you know, I'm writing this off.

You guys, it's all fucking recreation for you.

You know, I'm here for work.

I should fly first or business.

I'm doing business.

You're there for work, you said?

Business mindset.

I go to L.A.

Did you fly first class to Vancouver?

I forget.

And then.

No, I flew first class home, but I flow.

I flew premium economy there.

I don't know.

Big shout out.

out thanks to all the patrons who thank you so much for your support

the first home was cheap and i'm already i'm probably my but so my uh daughter's boyfriend's going with us out west and he was like i was like all i need him to pay for is his flight and he was like you know what i'll fly economy don't i don't want to fly first and i was like what

why not and gwen was like i still want to fly

yeah i i i'm let brian's like insists i can't wait to bring him here.

Fly first class.

First class.

And I'm like, I'm not going to let you do that.

I'm not going to give you my information to purchase a ticket.

I'm just going to buy the ticket and buy a regular one.

It's not a long enough flight to need that, you know?

Bullshit.

It's six hours.

That's all.

I think international, the only time I think it's really worthwhile is international if you really have to sleep or something.

You're gone for a really long time.

It actually is international, believe it or not.

Canada to Ohio.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But really, I feel like you're flying to a whole different world when you get here.

All right, war slash squared circle, Wade Star, finally, Wade Star 007.

I know this may sound dumb, but I can't believe wrestlers don't get boners every once in a while.

All right.

Well,

they don't.

Good point.

It's a good point.

Guys, I want to thank everybody for doing this.

It's really sweet of you all to come on.

Thank you.

Thank you so much.

Thanks to everyone.

Mike was here from the beginning.

Stayed to the end.

Mike, our DB, our first ever guest.

And shout out Jesse Farrar, who

is not like anything like Marty Giannetti.

He's not like Marty Giannetti.

We want to set the record straight.

He's not Jannetti-like at all, and we love him.

And also, to clarify, he had to go.

We weren't being mean.

He had to pee.

No, we pretended, but he did.

That was set up.

We didn't actually invite him onto the show and then immediately kick him off.

And that was a good idea.

Come on.

I know.

Come on, man.

We're supposed to treat this like it's not.

Wait, which one of us won?

Doesn't one of us have to win?

Me.

Yeah,

okay.

Brian can have it.

We all know what we have to tell Brian he won.

He's the only one on.

He's got pizza and ice cream as well.

I got to get food.

I don't know what I'm going to get.

I think I'm going to buy some F-bombs, which are these candies I've gotten into.

That's what you're thinking of having for dinner?

No, I'm going to probably get pizza for dinner or a cheeseburger.

Two biscuits.

Thanks for listening, everyone.

I appreciate it.

Hopefully, we'll do 100 more than call it.

Yeah.

Yeah.