Guys: Episode 92 - Man Guys with Merritt K

Hey, welcome to guys podcast spell guys.

I'm Brian.

With me is my guy friend, Chris James.

Hi, Chris.

Hey, Brian, it's cool to be on the channel.

Let's not have a guy talk.

Come on.

No, no, I'm the really big guy who's like so fucking scary.

Do you know what I mean?

He's like so scary that it's funny just that he talks that way.

You know, just as soon as he opens his mouth, you're like, what the hell?

That guy.

And his name's even Tiny.

Take a big guy named Tiny.

Classic bit.

Here's my co-host, Tiny Chris.

Tiny Chris.

That's a good name for you.

Hey, how's it going?

I killed a guy with my bare fists.

I was in a violence gang.

Well, in all seriousness, in all seriousness.

I was in a violence gang.

That's not actually something to joke about doing stranger attacks.

Doing stranger attacks on elderly people as part of a violence.

I never did it on an elderly people.

Let's get the guest light.

You actually admitted that you did do it to an elderly person.

No, I didn't admit that I beat up an elderly guy.

I beat up a kid's dad, and I didn't even do it.

It was somebody else.

Yeah, of course.

It was

porn O'Shaughan, I'm sure.

It's probably porn O'Shaughen or Jason.

And our guest this week.

You'll remember her from the Warmhammer episode.

I said that on purpose, we're not goofing on that, Merit Kay.

Hi, Merit.

I tried to do something, and I realized, oh fuck, I'm doing Donald Duck.

Uh, that's a good man.

He's like, he's a very masculine figure, I feel.

Um, so masculine, he doesn't even bother to throw a jewelry.

He doesn't even care, right?

Yeah.

Um, I know we're not talking about Warhammer this week, but I do just have to point out that it's been in the news in the past few days that

Henry's Warhammer show is probably not going to happen.

Yeah, it's in trouble.

I'm so happy.

I've never been happier than when I started to read it.

And listen,

I'm not trying to yuck anybody's yum, but they were so excited about it a year ago.

And now they're like, oh, how, like, it feels like it's a real,

it's like Henry has sort of left them out in the cold.

It's like a betrayal in a way from Henry, you know?

It seemed like he wanted to play like seven characters or something.

That's why not.

I should have let him do

an Eddie Murphy style.

Let him do a clump-style fucking Warhammer show.

He has increasingly fucked up prosthetics on his face.

Do you think that the thing you come up with is going to be better than that?

Good luck.

Yeah, he was like,

I would go to the Warhammer when we were doing the bonus shows, right?

I'd go to the Warhammer forum and check in on him.

And it was always like a 200, a 200-like page thing, comment thread on Reddit of people being like, I think you should play this guy.

I think you should play this guy.

I think you should play that.

And I was like, can somebody else play something?

But hey, so if it was all him and he was doing funny voices, the process.

I'm just going to have him step in here, in all seriousness, and get out this board game, painting dolls crap, and get on to the main subject, please.

Bacon.

So, what we're doing this week is it's called Manguys, a subject that I came up with before I figured out what it was.

I just thought the name was funny.

And

so I did go looking.

It is harder to find those guys since 2014 is over.

You know what I mean?

Yeah, I think I do know what you mean because it still exists, but it's like not funny anymore.

Or cool.

It's like, it's like kind of...

sort of scary, I guess.

A lot of the guys who are like, I want to go back to when it was like that, you know, but really serious about it.

They're not goofing at all.

And that, yeah, I know the guys you're talking about.

Well, we, we did, we, we, I tried to find the more funny side of that rather than the manosphere as they call it.

Yeah.

Yeah, because like, we're not talking about like Andrew Tate and like Joe Rogan, like those guys, right?

That's not.

Well, no, we're not talking about stand-up comedy guys.

No, Joe Rogan is

a more accomplished stand-up comedian.

I mean, you should check out his new special.

Oh my god, it's part of the boats, and he sweats in his breasts for the entire time.

That's my favorite thing.

My wife,

we were driving when we were up in the Pacific Northwest, and my wife was like, she doesn't pay attention to a lot of this stuff at all.

And she goes,

man, Joe Rogan's titties were sweating.

I was like, how the fuck did you see Joe Rogan's titties sweat?

She was talking about how he should have wore a different shirt.

I think.

Yeah, we all know.

Of course, he did a famously, did his comedy special live, so he was unable to fix his sweating breasts that became very prominent.

But it did not detract from a very strong special that did very well and was very well received.

Sure.

So first off, I want to do, I'm going to tell you, there is still a place

where a man can be a man.

You know what I mean?

No, don't say.

There's one place on the internet where the men gather, and that is

off the chai.

There's no.

What the fuck, man?

We've already, I thought I was done.

You know, you're the guys can be guys, man.

I just, we have to keep calm.

I think that's really critical.

Yeah, yeah, you're going to want to because this is, this gets a little wild.

Um, so we'll, we'll go ahead.

Uh, first of all, I wanted to, I almost sent Chris a bacon bouquet.

Uh, and I'm going to show you a picture of of it real quick because I've been looking at this website for the past couple days.

It's called the Manly Man Company.

No.

And it's still going.

This is not going to be a good thing.

No way.

Is it still going?

If you order this, there's no way it arrives.

It arrives and it's got great reviews.

It arrives like nine years ago is when it arrives.

Wait a second.

What is it?

Is it real cooked bacon?

I believe it is real cooked bacon.

So is there an issue with like, or is it like beef jerk?

Like, you know what I mean?

Like,

it's not $69.

Come on.

It is $69.

That's a good price for it.

Do you understand the significance of that, Merritt?

Why that's funny?

Because, like, are you talking about how expensive it is?

No, I just thought it was kind of expensive.

Is there like...

Oh, Lord.

Okay.

Well, that.

Well, there is the sex position where a guy gets his dick sucked and a woman gets her pussy ate right at the same time.

Holy shit.

Or two guys.

Hold on.

Hold on.

on two guys or two trend two women can do it actually this is it's one of those sex positions

easier for two guys or two women two guys probably easiest in the side saddle 69 position would be easier yet yeah yeah and but then yeah and then women can definitely do it as well I mean it's a very very cool cool position it definitely is the position that when you're like younger you're like wow this is so fucking cool I'm gonna be doing 69s like pretty much once a week for the rest of my life And then you feel older and you're like, well, no, it's not happening that often.

If you're like, like the kind of person who is still like into 69, and I feel like that's why it became such a big joke, because like

you have like an essentially infantile conception of sex.

Like it's like, oh yeah, I want to be kind of distracted while I'm trying to do something.

It's just like the fucking, it's like a German efficiency idea of sexual congress.

Yeah, then it's like, just do sex then.

Yeah, you could just do sex.

So the bacon bouquet.

Yeah, please tell us.

Looking for a fun and unique gift for the bacon lover in your life?

Look no further than the bacon bouquet.

This arrangement of individually packaged thick cut slices of gourmet bacon is the perfect gift for any occasion.

The bacon is fully cooked and red.

I don't know if, like, what if somebody's child passes away?

Like any occasion.

Would they like, wait, that's a great question.

If there is like a write-a-card in there, like if you wrote like condolences and the passing of Douglas, like, would they just say no?

No, like, we're not, we won't do it, or would they take your money?

Yeah, I have to.

It would be, I mean, if they did have the, it would be an automated thing, I would imagine, probably.

And then

just whatever you wanted on.

Because the bacon is fully cooked and ready to eat with no refrigeration required, making it shelf-stable and perfect for on-the-go snacking.

Who is on-the-go snacking on bacon?

On battles, bacon.

I mean,

I mean, yeah, obviously.

Like,

I like bacon.

I like to eat it in like every now and then.

It's obviously, you can't be eating it all the time.

It's very unhealthy.

But yeah, I'm not sure when it became known as being so good, like so much better than everything.

I don't know how it got this sort of marketing push, where it came from, you know?

I think dudes.

I think chefs, right?

So they're, yeah, you think chefs?

Food trends

sort of food trends.

trend okay yeah it's i don't know to me bacon is so associated with like the reddit like think geek

uh internet geek comedy chive 2010s like mustache bacon and mustaches was like a thing for a while right like those

and it's like the fact that this still exists to me is very strange because it feels like this should have died out like it feels like manly it feels like good natured manly man is definitely like such a thing that doesn't because I've looked all over for like forums.

And you get to a forum for like manly men or how to be a man, and generally they're either Christian or right-wing.

Like there's nothing like that, that era you're talking about, the 2010s, where it was like

guys would like,

I talked about I wore a fedora for a period of time and a derby hat because I thought it was a gentleman's hat.

I wanted to be a gentleman, but I didn't.

And your name was

Cueper.

No, my my name was Brian at that time.

And I wore a

I would wear this.

I said, men

don't wear baseball caps or hoodie.

What about baseball players?

But you mean like, just like, you mean it's, it's, I understand what you're saying.

It's too casual.

A real man would be, like, it's, it's better to be a little bit more formal, you know, if you're a real man's man.

So I would wear this derby and I have a picture of myself and I look at it kind of frequently because I'm I'm wearing a derby hat.

I'm flipping off the camera and I'm wearing a Cohed and Cambria t-shirt.

Like, what the fuck?

That's not what a gentleman would ever wear.

I was just walking around in a derby with a t-shirt jeans on.

Yeah, you didn't seem to really get the whole idea of it

because you know it is to dress up or yourself.

And if you're just not even going to bother with the rest of it, then you look like, I guess, like an idiot.

I know, I know.

And I always think about like, what was I thinking?

And, and, but I was never,

I mean, obviously, I don't think anybody would think I was ever like a big time men's rights or because I've been with my wife for so long.

I live with my wife and my daughter.

I'm only around women, like

most of the time.

So, and like a lot of my friends growing up were, were women too.

Like, I didn't have, I had like guys that were friends, but Chris has heard of the guys, like,

you know, porno Sean.

I mean, there wasn't having any deep conversations.

They were like really, really like,

they were a nasty group of individuals.

Like, the stuff we're talking about was not, we're not joking.

He was legitimately in like a road.

He was not in a violence game.

So, anyway.

And so, yeah,

it's interesting that he says this now.

I've not heard of any of these friends that are women.

He's not, he's not.

Well, Tiffany was like my best friend.

The only girl I've heard of is the girl that you

know, that's a girlfriend.

That's a totally different thing.

So, anyway, it goes.

And if you want to really amp up the flavor, simply warm it up for five seconds in the microwave, your pocket, or warm water for an intense smell of smokiness and the shine of bacon, fresh off the smoker.

So that is the bacon bouquet.

Now, I would leave it at that, but I saw a different,

When I was looking at this website, I saw this section that says man bouquet.

Oh, there's more.

That is cool.

Because, yeah,

bouquet is only for women.

Men hate flowers.

I fucking hate flowers.

They stink so fucking nasty to me as a man.

And so it's cool.

Like, obviously, I love the smell of bacon.

Let's find some other stuff maybe that I love the smell of.

So these are the beef jerky flower bouquet.

All right.

Beautiful.

Those are really,

you can say what you want.

They're really beautiful beautiful aesthetically.

They look gorgeous.

The fact that they come, is that a pint glass or is that just a one's a mug?

One is just a regular sort of glass and the other one is a black steel.

So steel.

That's a man's material, too.

So the beef jerky flower bouquet, you can get either eight stems or a full dozen.

Just to be, just to be clear, because you guys are just listening here.

These one, the bacon one is just strips of bacon in a bouquet.

Whereas this one, the beef jerky, has been formed into like, it's kind of a fun little arts and crafts thing, like a cute little arts and crafts thing that some of these manly men did.

I can imagine, you know, butch and tiny getting together and just sculpting these beautiful little beef jerky flowers, you know?

Yeah, I...

That's a kind of a problem with this, I feel like, is I feel like, okay, maybe the end product is sort of has like this quality to it, but the act of making it,

like, it was not assembled by

manly men.

Like, it was assembled by, like, I don't know, did they have like elves working in their shop or like just sort of like little like

ladies, maybe ladies, ladies with small hands?

Yeah, yeah.

Or like betas or something.

Betas, because someone with small hands would be required to do this work.

You guys are seeing it, but it is really sort of, I mean, it's very, I mean, it is very detail-oriented.

It is very like, it is artistic.

It is like somebody, whoever's done it has put care into it, you know?

Yeah, so we're looking at it.

People have bought this as recent as two weeks ago.

I find that impossible to believe.

Yeah, there's guys that love the, there's guys that are still like, I love bacon and beef jerky.

This jerky has kind of taken over bacon.

This guy rules right now who we're looking at, too.

He's got the little like chin thing and the mustache, but it's kind of thinner, you know?

And he's like, I don't know.

He looks like a construction guy, younger sort of construction worker guy.

I mean, he's just a classic man and he's happy with this bouquet.

They also have man hearts.

So the bacon bouquet, you can also get the beef bouquet, which is, or the meat bouquet, which is half bacon, half jerky, which that's probably the one to get, I would think.

But then they also have like a Bloody Mary kit.

You can get a message on a slab of beef jerky.

Hold on.

A message on a slab of beef jerky is a pretty good gift.

That is, that is a good gift, but hold on.

I reject the idea that a Bloody Mary is masculine.

I do too.

It's a brunch drink.

Like, okay, I don't know.

If you're Canadian, there's a thing called a

Bloody Caesar, which is Bloody Mary with clemato.

Yeah, I think it's just called a Caesar.

A Caesar, yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

My dad used to drink those all the time.

And so that maybe personally has an association of masculinity for me.

It doesn't even.

It doesn't even.

Just to be clear, though, a Caesar is.

Yeah, no, generally speaking, it doesn't.

But like, a Bloody Mary is a brunch drink.

That's not

because you can

put horseradish in it.

Sorry, sis.

You guys lost that one.

We got it.

We got it.

It's ours now.

It's ours now.

It couldn't look cheaper, by the way.

I got to tell you, the world's smallest bottle of Tabasco sauce, like that is so small.

And then it's got bacon, rim salt, but it's $129.

And it really is just enough for one

Bloody Mary.

A tough.

Yeah, and a Tabasco sauce is not manly at all.

Scoville's way low on that.

You'd want to go much higher.

Yeah, that's a good point because I feel like there is a whole.

Have you done like a hot?

I mean, that's not like a whole episode.

Like, have you done hot sauce?

We did hot sauce, guys, earlier.

That's why I'm referencing.

That's what I'm referencing.

Yeah, because

the Scoville's is how they figure out how hot it is.

Yeah, we did it with the Doughboys.

Yeah, yeah.

Because that, to me, is, I feel like it's part of it of like the

eating as like pain kind of thing.

Yeah, what you can manage to, you know, handle versus what you can enjoy yeah yeah yeah so we went to the chive i went to the chive yes i did not i stay away from it although i do follow it on instagram uh exclusively because when i run the guys account the only accounts we follow are the chive and the chivery and so i do see a lot of their posts and they're fucking shocking i cannot believe they are shocking

have they pivoted to ai yet like are they just posting fake ai pics no they don't they're still doing written pieces pieces, but they also have.

Because they're so far behind everything.

They don't even know AI yet, really.

That's beautiful.

And so this is an article written by Bob.

Nice.

Now, I got to give the date for this because I think it's important that people know this was written on March 27th, 2024.

That would be this year.

Okay.

And the article is called things that are quote normal to men yet astounding to most women.

Okay.

So this will be interesting because you can read them out and I'll see if is it normal for me?

Is it astounding for Merritt?

Not only are we going to read them out, but we're going to read the comments.

Oh, good.

For the other.

So anyway, Zen Zellett says, long car rides with another dude.

Nobody says anything and nobody is mad.

No, that's silent ride.

That's very odd to me.

I would never sit in silence with somebody.

In fact, like I know in, people talk about it sometimes.

You do comedy, you're like doing a road gig with another comedian and you have nothing to talk about, and you just sit there in silence.

But it's like known as a weird and uncomfortable thing, even for guys, I think.

It's kind of gay to talk to another guy, though, in a call.

That close.

The next step is that I would think it depends on what you're talking about, really.

I think you can talk about it.

You can't talk about nothing.

Loller Keith says, My wife continually asked me, Did anyone say anything about your shirt, hair, shoes, etc.?

No.

No one says anything about my appearance.

No, people have definitely

had people comment on, oh, and that's a nice shirt.

I like that shirt or whatever.

Or, hey, did you get your hair cut or whatever?

Oh, yeah.

You know,

sleep would be nice.

Is saying when we were dating, I don't think my wife had seen a, this is crazy, had seen a quote grower before, or maybe even hadn't heard of the concept.

She seemed quite surprised the first time she saw me go from flaccid to hard.

This idiot's never even heard of a grower.

What the fuck?

Sweetheart.

I like the idea that she's never even heard of the concept of a boner before.

Like, just like,

oh, there just stays like that, right?

And you kind of have to, like,

I don't know.

You figure it out.

And it's like, oh my God,

what's happening?

What is this thing?

What do you even do with this?

It's harder, but it doesn't like get bigger, right?

Just the idea of him, his wife just being so sort of shocked at how small his plastic benefits was.

And then him being like, excuse me, you ignorant, you ignorant.

It's like you've never heard of the concept of a grower, you know?

That's so good to me.

I love this guy.

What's that guy's name?

That guy's name was Sleep Would Be Nice.

Yeah.

Impossible Bear says i went to a girl's house recently and she and her roommates were shocked that i didn't share my location with my friends oh well that's a different thing i think that has to do with sexual assault yeah feeling of feeling unsafe so yeah that yeah that is okay that is that one we you got that one is i i feel like they would not have no no one would be shocked by that because it's kind of accepted that yeah it's accepted but it's not shocking but it's like that they are making a good point to guy no it is real yeah but they're not sort of delving into the reason behind that right

centext and says yeah for that matter two guys could spend the afternoon together have a grand time come home and have their respective wives be absolutely bewildered that they didn't learn anything about what's going on in the other guy's life

uh well it depends on the context of it if it's somebody that i see regularly or whatever but yeah if i went and like caught up with a friend that i haven't seen in a long time and i came back ariel would be like what are they up to and if i was like,

because I would ask them, I would ask them,

I would talk to them about their life.

Glubby Glubby says, reminds me of when I told my friend that men don't sleep in the same bed during sleepovers.

And she goes, they don't?

They do sometimes now.

I'm sure sometimes now.

Yeah.

They didn't when I was growing up.

Men, okay, first of all, men and sleepovers.

Like, how often are adult men having sleepovers?

It's only in a drunken, you know what I mean?

Like, oh, we both, like, I passed out at your house or whatever, like after like a night of drinking, perhaps, I think.

That's the only thing I can do.

I guess, yeah.

This is a very weird one, okay?

G.W.

Windbond says, I'm 39.

I started down an entirely new career path in mid-January.

I've had a horrible imposter syndrome since day one, but the new job feels good.

My boss, who happens to be a woman, sent me the nicest, most complimentary email thanking me for being such a good addition to the team.

And I sincerely cried because, in all my years in the workforce, nobody has ever appreciated me so much.

I imagine to her, it's just one of those things a good boss does.

Hey, my employee did a good job.

I should tell him.

I sent it to my dad.

And when he asked me how the new job was going, even he cried out of pride.

Men don't get compliments.

And when we do, we really need it.

What?

It's kind of beautiful, right?

That's pretty beautiful.

Yeah.

Well, when we get to the comments,

oh boy.

Wait, those aren't comments?

Like,

this is the article.

We're reading.

How is this an article?

It's just a bunch of people saying things.

Exactly.

They're saying that guys don't compliment each other.

Yeah, yeah.

As much as women.

I think that is true.

But still, yeah, like I think women lift each other up more,

their friends and stuff, probably.

But let's see what the commenters have to say.

Had a meetup with the boys for hours.

Not a single photo was taken.

Okay.

That's actually kind of true.

This guy goes struggling to do something in public and nobody coming over to assist you.

It's kind of sad.

What?

Huh?

Like, it depends what it is.

Like, yeah, like changing a tire, I think, is the type of thing.

Listen, listen, if you're a guys, guy, you got to know how to change.

Yeah, what the fuck are you needing help for in, buddy?

Figure it out yourself.

I mean, if that's what you want to be thought of as, right?

And then you're like, nobody helped me change my tire.

It's like, well,

why don't you just be normal?

I feel like the compensation there for men is that you maybe don't get the direct help, but what you do get is the kind of older guy who doesn't have anything to do coming over and just going,

oh, changing a tire, huh?

Yeah.

I love that.

Yeah.

And it's like that's a classic form of interaction.

Like, I feel like that's beautiful and it's not my favorite thing.

I kind of don't like it when people come and try to help me change the tire, by the way.

Like, I feel like they're looking at me like, dang, I don't know how to change a tire.

Yeah, Yeah, I think that that's a that example isn't really like if you're clearly struggling with it, maybe, but I just think too, yeah, don't be so reliant on others if you're if you're a man's man, you know?

I'm glad we have a woman because this guy goes that we don't socialize, talk, bond with other guys in the bathroom.

No talking in the bathroom.

You go in, you take care of business, wash your hands and get out.

No standing next to another dude at the urinal unless you have no choice.

This is good because this is like old school kind of, you know, I like this.

So what is going on in the middle?

TV has lied to me a lot because like, I feel like I see a lot of conversations at urinals in film and

television.

And obviously there's like a lot of comedy stuff of like, oh, don't talk to me.

But then it's like, there's like a lot of high power business deals going on in the men's bathroom, as I understand it.

Which is, you know, a problem in the workplace.

But like the whole talking in the bathroom thing, it's like

strangers don't like regularly talk to each other.

It's like there's like the incidences where, like, okay, at a bar, if someone is crying in the bathroom, then that is like a, oh, are you okay kind of thing?

But like,

unless you go in the bathroom like with your friend, you're not usually like striking up a conversation with a total stranger.

I think this is just that men don't go to the bathroom with together.

Yeah, with their friends.

Again, is that again have to do with some sometimes maybe a safety thing for

you?

Yeah, it is just, yeah, that's the thing I think that we don't go at the same time.

And yeah, that is, I guess, a more female thing.

But what are you guys talking about in there?

Let's go to the comments here.

Okay.

This guy goes, how's the, his name used to be Talk Tank.

How's about going to Target to buy one thing and leaving with one thing?

That's, I can't, I'm, I sometimes will get more things.

I'm a bit of a shopper myself.

Well, Buddha replies to him and goes, shopping, we know what we want.

Go in and buy it and leave.

Well, is it true?

Because

this is something, though, that I have like, or in all seriousness, like, obviously there's a lot of silly stuff being put out on the board, but like, all jokes aside, I have heard this, and you could probably help me out with this, Mary.

Is it true, though, that women do be shopping?

Do you know, like, comparatively?

Yeah, I feel like I've heard that too.

I don't remember.

do you do a lot of like are you somebody are you doing shoe shopping do you do clothes shopping do you do like inner thing is like the thing is most of that stuff is online now at least for me like i don't know um

like you know yeah i'm looking at like the real real and like depop and stuff but that's all online and um

i don't know how many hair straighteners Brian was mentioning that.

Do you have I own one hair straightener?

It's not as big a deal for me since I cut my hair off,

but I do own one.

We've heard a lot of women have a ton of them.

A ton of hair straighteners?

Yeah, yeah.

We heard it from our guys.

One commenter said it one single time.

Like his wife asked him why he has so many guitars.

No, there's it's uh yeah, it's one of those cases where someone is blowing the averages out.

Like hair straightener Sally shouldn't be counted.

It's shoes, though, for a lot.

I mean, you know, women's shoes I know.

Like my mom growing up, she was really in, like, she had like a really,

we weren't super rich or anything.

We were just like in a town.

And she had just a lot of shoes.

You know, I have more than my wife.

The shoes thing.

Yeah, the shoes thing is interesting to me, too, because it feels like something that has kind of changed over the past like 20 years where, like, I have some guy friends who have like way, way more pairs of shoes than me.

And I'm not a big shoes person, but like the growth of sneaker heads has kind of like

changed that whole dynamic a lot.

Yeah, I've gotten into this matching thing where I want everything to match.

So I have to own, I have the hat, the watch band,

the shirt.

You know what I mean?

I want everything to have a matching color.

Just colors, though, not branding necessarily.

You just need color matching.

You know, and then Fedora Dave replies and goes, women, quote, shop.

Men go and get it.

Oh, yeah.

Andrew says, I recall in the 80s, I needed jeans.

I went

40 years ago.

In the 80s, I needed jeans.

I went to the ball straight to the mall.

He does not have a lot of exciting memories, but that one is still there.

You know what I mean?

Right.

Yeah, like that hasn't been pushed out by any number of other things.

Fuck, man.

You got to get it.

Get rid of that jeans memory, dude.

You got it.

That's crazy.

I went to the mall straight to the men's section in pennies, then to the checkout, then back to the car, in and out in less than 10 minutes.

So this is, so again, I was going to say, wait,

maybe something extraordinary happened during this trip that like, made it right, right?

No, no, no, this guy's literally has a memory of going to JC Penny's.

Is that what he's saying?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, bought a pair of jeans, bought a pair of speedrunning jeans, yeah.

In and out in 10 minutes.

How many times is that?

World record, in and out.

Tommy said that so many times.

Yeah,

there's like a shopping story or like a thing about JC Penny or jeans or anything.

He's like, oh, buddy, fucking had to get jeans one time.

Fucking in and out 10 fucking minutes back home on my bed pouch in the new jeans

tv paul says i've said this multiple times here women don't understand when a guy's sitting on the couch watching tv and they ask what you're thinking about and you reply nothing she doesn't believe or understand how that's possible

but it's not possible it's yeah it's not you just don't you don't know how to articulate your inner state which is a common thing that like a lot of people have but like you don't want to or you don't want to yeah like a lot of the times it's just i don't want to get into it.

It's like complicated.

It's like I don't know.

I don't want to like unstart unraveling this and think then I'll have to explain that and it's just easier to say nothing you know well pad 20 says same thing when I'm reading she just cannot let me read she feels the need to talk to me I swear some days I have to read the same paragraph 20 times well that's chomping and that is an issue

that's an issue not

a chomper then you got to get those fucking divorce papers written up because it's no point you gotta read yeah that's the same goes for if you're a fucking woman and your husband's a chomper.

I'm a chomper, kind of, with my wife.

Like, I, I, I, she sits down to read.

I'm like, what are you doing?

You mad at me?

No, you know, well, I mean, I think everyone can agree that, you know, Katie would have a hundred reasons to, but this for whatever reason, she loves you so much, and she's not going to leave in spite of your chomp.

Men will put time aside to switch off and do nothing.

Women see that as time to be filled.

No.

I don't think so.

I don't,

huh?

This is one of those weird ones where, like, we get into like, when people get really deep into the stereotypes, you're like, wait, is this, is it that or is it the opposite?

Yeah.

Like, because, like, to me, the, the, if I had to say, like, what is the stereotype about like use of time?

I'd be like, oh, men always want to be getting things done.

You know, I've got to do a project.

And women are just like, I'm going to take a bath.

And like, and it's like, it's just, that is, there's no association, I feel like, in reality.

It's completely like.

Yeah, that's totally wrong.

This person on the Chive message board talking about manliness.

Yeah, we need to go in and correct them.

Yeah.

Well, I will say this, too, is like some of these things are personal things to one.

You know what I mean?

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah.

This person goes, nor does she under.

Well, this guy goes, that's what I'm reminded of a few items from my honey do list.

Actually, it's more of a honeydew three-volume set.

What is a honey do list?

Honey, could you do blah, blah, blah, I assume?

Like, yeah, it's like a list that wives are.

Your bitch wife is telling you to do all this stuff.

He's like, the window's cracked.

You got to fix the window.

You know, this is a window.

Yeah, this is a fire.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And you know, this isn't these chive guys.

Come on.

You know what I mean?

And then you don't have a wife for her stop.

That's true.

Stubby says, nor does she understand why I'm cool having her friends over.

Gives my poor ears a rest.

I sometimes think that they are allergic to silence.

And if there's a gap in conversation, they are compelled to fill it.

Some of these seem like their wives want to talk to them.

So, oh, but she thinks it sounds like his wife had her friends over and they were talking.

He loves it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He likes it when her friends come over because they're talking to each other and not him.

Oh, okay.

That's a good relationship.

Yeah.

I mean, yeah, I think that ideally you want to be with someone that you like to talk to.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Spike the Christmas narwhal says compulsive communication.

Like a radio station, you can't have dead hair.

I have to, I have to grind the podcast to a halt for a second because

narwhals are like the third element of like the bacon mustache

narwhal, right?

Trifecta.

Oh, yeah.

And the fact that we just have a narwhal sighting in the wild here is

like the narwhal is so fucking manly.

It is insane because, of course, we all know why.

I mean, the horn is a penis, basically.

The horn ain't no pussy, that's for sure.

Well, the chive is really like a museum.

Yeah, I'm realizing that.

Yeah, it's like kind of walking through a museum of like the worst internet stuff for, you know, 10 years ago.

This guy does.

I just want to, at the aquarium in Vancouver, anyone who went to the Vancouver Aquarium, there was a big, like, like fake narwhal when you'd walk downstairs into the beluga place and so everyone in vancouver knows that narwhal and that was the first thing i thought of as soon as i became age enough i was like that looks like a pecker

yeah you know it's spiraled it's coming out of the hat it's yeah

these next two are are really

These are two guys having an individual experience that maybe others, this guy goes, my girlfriend went up with me at a bar.

I i was talking to a buddy when she came in uh as we were leaving to go to dinner she asked me how long i knew him for i said i was not sure 10 12 years maybe she asked what his name is and i said john she asked for his last name and i just stared at her why would i know his last name not dating him just having a drink with him nice guy never forgets when it's his turn to buy And then Mr.

Bill replies and goes, the only reason a group of guys knows each other knows the other guy's last names is because there are two plus of that guy's first name in the the group and even then they'll prefer a nickname over last name so it is not manly

to know people's last names the fuck so i i mean i guess like if it's your friend though i know my friend's last names yeah i do too most of them i don't know birthdays i'm that's the thing i'm birthdays are tough because they're numbers but like a name you usually even like a most coworkers

you know i've known their last names if we've worked together for any amount of time.

Brian, do you know my last name?

Don't say it.

Oh, I do know your real last name.

James is my middle name.

So my last name.

I pay you.

Of course I know your last name.

Well, I used to get paid as the people would pay me as Chris James.

And I would, they would, the bank would, would, because it's my middle name, they would usually cash it, but it did become a problem.

Here's an interesting one from Sorry Worldliness 5269.

It goes, my female friends don't roast each other like I do with my friends.

It's all in good fun, but I can't joke with them like I do my male friends.

Oh, yeah, amen to that.

We all

guys.

Look what happened with Kill Tony.

We all love Kill Tony.

Kill Tony Henchcliffe.

Shout out to Kill Tony Henchcliffe.

And it's so funny that they put Kill Tony on the president thing.

Like,

as somebody who's watched Kill Tony, like the actual show, like Tony Henchcliffe is so unfunny, and everyone who watches it even hates him.

Okay, but to be fair,

he did have to follow the national anthems that's hard that's that's a tough gig you know but to that show especially like at a trump thing because that's like one of the highlights for those people yeah they go wild he the i think that um the shows are really the kill tony is interesting it's like a spectacle it's like an open mic in front of like millions of people it's like wild you know um but just the idea of somebody seeing kill kill tony hinchcliffe who's by the way i've said it many times i've never seen anyone bomb so hard in my entire life.

In the Vancouver Comedy Festival at the Rio Theater, he's playing to a full theater and getting got zero laughs for 20 full minutes.

It was remarkable.

I've really never seen it.

Like, there was like a guy who was like a local radio host who went up and got bigger laughs.

Like, if the presidential people were there that night, they would have picked the local radio guy to go up.

But, like, just to put him on stage in that setting is so fucking funny because he's obviously going to do that if you know him and know anything.

He's just going to do that every single time.

Vasectomus said,

Okay.

I love that because it sounds like the name of a transformer who does Vasectomus.

Yeah.

He like turns into a scissor or a scalpel.

The guy goes, Yeah, they have absolutely no sense of humor, capacity for roasting.

They always think there's something behind the insult besides humor.

I think they might show like love in a different way.

That is true in the in the sense of like guys will rib each other and they'll like it.

I don't think it happens so much with women.

And I don't really love it myself.

I'm not somebody who's been really big into like we never really did that huge in my Ruba Friends, you know.

But I definitely see, I see people who do that and they do it lovingly, like genuinely.

It's like the way that they're so fucking, you know, like unable to connect with their emotions in any way that that's the only way they can express it.

And it's like, it is kind of nice in a weird way, you know, when they can do it.

Here's Stubby says, Yeah, sometimes I have a this guy's hardcore.

You guys are going to love it.

Yeah, sometimes I have a choice: say something funny that's going to irrationally upset her or deprive the world of my comedy genius.

It's not really a choice at all.

You have to use those zingers, or that part of your brain will atrophy.

That's so true.

Malcolm XY,

Meredith, have you ever done any

stand-up comedy?

Any stand-up comedy?

Jesus, God.

Have I ever done any stand-up comedy?

No.

So you haven't done any roasts or anything like that?

No, like not in like a, you know, professional setting.

Yeah.

I mean, it's kind of

people have said that when you got the stand-up comedy bug and when it bites you, you can't really turn it off.

So you'll sometimes it's like, it's like, oh,

you can only be roasting people when you're on stage.

Oh, okay.

Well, what if the world is my stage

and what do you say to that and and is you know when we're the last people who can actually tell the truth what if what if the entire world is the audience in your and in your netflix crowdwork special basically and and god i would like to see more of those but but and i'm talking about just yeah i'm not allowed to talk about i'm talking about just is hypothetical i'm not allowed to talk about my stand-up anymore yeah i mean nobody wants to hear it right well anyway uh this this last we're got we're down to like the last three comments here from

they're responding to, we don't really talk about our problems unless we need a solution and to understand the mental blocks stopping us from solving our problems.

So they're saying that

we don't talk about our problems,

okay, which is a healthy thing, I guess.

And Brad goes, yep.

If you give me a solution to my problem and it gets fixed, then I won't be able to bitch about it for the next three months.

My mom was great at this one.

Then three months later, when, when quote, she comes up with your solution, fixes the problem, and wonders why she didn't think of it sooner.

So this guy has a, hmm.

Hey, listen, as a guy with a crazy relationship with his mom, I get it.

You know, Stubby says, yep, now I ask, winging, or do you want it fixed?

Wenjing.

So this is a Brit.

UK, UK man confirmed.

That is such a, I love that.

I love that term winging.

I really do.

It's one of my favorite British terms.

It just means complaining for anyone.

I do think that is like, like, it's phrased terribly, obviously.

But that is like, honestly, a useful thing to ask if you're talking to someone who is like going through some shit.

It's like, okay, what can I do?

Like, do you want to just like get this out?

And I can be like, that sounds like it's shitty.

Or do you want me to like try and brainstorm some solutions with you?

So like this guy has almost hit on something, except he's framing it in like, are you just being a bitch?

Or you want me to solve the fucking problems for you?

This might be the best we can hope for from the guy, though.

He might be his like furthest form.

And I think, you know, we hope that he can evolve.

But just

aging and something.

He's like got it somewhat.

Like, he's doing the right thing.

He just doesn't know why, really.

Yeah.

This guy goes, that leads her to saying I'm fine.

And no sex for a week.

Oh, shit.

Well, that's this is like.

Wait, how old is he?

There's no sex for a week at my, I'm fine with that.

I think this must be a younger guy.

He's like 25.

No, no, no, but that's the thing.

No, there's no way this guy is under 40.

And like, all of this shit feels like it's just people like

reading their lives through the lens of like sitcoms.

Yes.

And like, to some, like, we all do this, right?

Everyone is like uses media to do this.

But, like, this is like, oh, yeah, I saw him buried with children in the 80s.

And, like, that's what it's like.

And, like, and has just been projecting that sort of like onto his life the whole time.

It fucked his life up.

Yeah.

Like for sure.

All the stuff he watched as a kid, all those movies that he quotes, all that stuff, it totally fucked his whole life up because he's just this weird guy now that never talks to anybody.

And again, I've talked about this.

I used to be a real mean guy, I would say.

Oh, you don't say.

Yeah, I used to be a really, really mean guy.

And I went to college.

And I was reading.

And you got more knowledge, right?

I did get more knowledge.

And then he figured out how to be more mean in like a very specific way.

In a postmodern, like, academic way.

Yeah.

So, in, I was a sociology major.

I had to read this book called Heat Wave.

And it was about like a heat wave in Chicago that happened where a ton of people died.

Like, just hundreds or maybe even thousands of people died at this.

And they were like going through the demographics of the people who died in this heat wave.

And they said the highest demographic was

old white guys because they don't talk to anybody and they are are mostly alienated from their family and friends.

And I was like, Yeah, that's a, that I don't want to be that.

And that's why I started to like kind of improve my, uh, improve my disposition around people.

Like reading that really made me like, oh my God, this could be happening to me.

You know, I chased a lot of people off insulting them.

Like, you know, I had some friends who I was super mean to and I'm sure they just didn't want to hang out with me anymore.

So I was always insulting them.

So why were you insulting?

What age was that in my 20s and why were why were you like you were just unhappy

yeah and you know i was listening to opie and anthony and all that stuff oh i see like i was trying

funny equals mean kind of thing yeah yeah

so you were you were doing it like you were thinking you were trying to be a funny guy kind of yeah and you know what when you think of like that thing where like this is more of a 2000s maybe early 2010s thing where like as a guy you were supposed to say, I'm an ass.

Like, it's still kind of that Dennis Leary kind of like,

I'm a huge bitch.

By way of Louis C.K., by the way, just I do want to give proper credit to Louis C.K.

for he actually had that joke stolen by Dennis Leary, you know?

Wow.

Well, see, but in a sense, that does make Dennis Leary even more of an asshole.

Yeah, totally.

He had no shit.

It's like he's like, who's the, oh, oh, really?

You're the asshole.

Louis, you're the asshole.

And you, you came up with that?

Yeah, right.

How about the guy stole it it from you?

I'm going to go with him.

Thank you.

And so it's like

there was a lot of currency in being an asshole for a long time.

I always blame like South Park and like Family Guy, like kind of started at the same time and had that same sorry.

Like, you know, you still see people say, I'm a sarcastic bastard.

And then like,

yeah.

And

the stuff they say they do, you're like, well, that's just mean.

That's like a nasty thing to say to somebody, you know,

so the audio of me saying I want to give credit to Louis ZK.

I'll put it on the soundboard.

We'll isolate that.

Yeah.

I do not.

Here's the last two of this.

I dutifully compliment my wife of 20 plus years on a daily basis of something, her hair, clothes, work related or otherwise, she gets a compliment.

Not hollow or meaningless, but just something to let her know I noticed whatever the compliment was about.

When I mentioned that men don't get compliments, it thoughtfully took her aback for a moment.

Then she agreed, I'm still waiting for one.

Okay, so this guy's weird because it really started, it really seemed like, oh, this guy's really sweet and he's doing this.

Like, what a sweet guy who's like, hey, these are not hollow either.

I really believe them.

And I want to make sure she knows how important she is and how wonderful she is.

And then it turned out where he's just like, where's mine?

Where's your

compliment?

And I'm still waiting.

And I'm still, still, well, I think it's, yeah, she agreed with you on it, though.

But yeah, that's, I feel bad for this guy.

He just, he just wants a compliment.

He does.

He does.

And our final in this thing from Wompire.

This, I think the listeners will love.

I think Merritt and Chris are going to love it.

This is a great post.

There's only one scenario where it's okay for a man to cry.

You're in your bed, two sexy chivetes wearing lingerie are taking off your clothes

and arguing over which one gets the do-you first.

When they remove your underwear, they both gasp and say, wow.

Then you see your wife in a chair next to the bed and she says to you, happy birthday, darling.

Hey, how do you work the Zoom lens on this camera?

What's going on?

What's up?

This guy, apparently, he's having sex with two Chivets.

Yeah, yeah, no, I guess.

And his wife wife is watching filming.

The chivettes are the

women of the chive.

They're under the when you go on a chive, there's a tab that says,

is it like a page five girls kind of thing?

We don't really know if they're like, we don't know if they're paid by the chive or if they're just like sort of curated off the internet.

We can't really figure out what the story is behind the chivetes, bro.

They're often scantly clad.

They're often

scattered.

Next to nothing, but never nothing.

Right.

Yeah.

No, they're like a bikini girls in like the sun or whatever, right?

Does the sun still do that?

I don't know.

Yeah.

They're very provocatively dressed.

And some of them are, you know, I'll say it.

Some of them are quite,

they have quite large breasts oftentimes.

See, that, to me, anyone who's still like on that train is like weirdly kind of like admirable.

I don't know.

Admirable is maybe not the right word, but like

it's like just with the availability of just like the most fucked up, intense pornography you could possibly imagine at a touch of a, on your fucking phone, if you're still going to the chive and looking at like clothed titty pics

and jerking off to it.

Like, and that's the thing that gets you horny.

Like, that's all you need.

It is

quaint.

It is quaint.

I kind of, my heart, you know, goes out to you.

We're like, I'm just, I salute you, right?

Because like, I don't know, great work in a sense.

Yeah.

Honestly, it's like sweet.

It is sweet.

I was thinking recently about because we covered this Rover, Rover's Morning Glory on Shocktober recently.

And

he does a thing every year where they make a hot bikini babes calendar.

Well, it's discontinued as of 2016.

He's not doing it now.

Well, no, he still makes the calendar.

He just doesn't.

He just doesn't do the event.

Okay.

But, but, like, I was just thinking, like,

you know, there are still guys that hang bikini babe calendars in their garage and they're just super, they, they would say babes.

They, it's like that whole thing.

Because when I was a kid, when I was like a teenager, I used to hang out at this pool hall and every like, you know, few months or something, they would have a group of bikini babes come in and like sign autographs.

And guys would line up to get the autographs.

And they just were they famous?

Were they famous people?

No, not at all.

They were just women women with keys that had like these.

Wait, this is like a weird like

inversion of like the signing the boobs thing of like the women with the boobs are signing your stuff.

Like what?

Yeah, why?

Where and what did you grow up?

This whole collection of like

just a bunch of fucking signatures from women who are dressed in bikinis.

Like what are you going to do with that?

The bikinis that like where they pull like down and it just just covers their nipples like a classic thing they'd have those yeah they always the pictures you know where they're all sweaty oh pictures of them okay that kind of makes yeah it's pictures of them they're signing i see

okay that's a that makes a little bit more sense but still it's still very weird they were they were strippers presumably or something like that right no they weren't because they didn't get they didn't take clothes off or anything no normally not like not at the pool hall but i'm presumably like they were like or they were adult actors or something like that you know what i mean i think so i think they because it's the thing about like, and I just saw a poster of this somewhere at a, what, at an antique shop I was at recently, but there was this period of time where the biggest fucking thing in the world for men like this was the Swedish bikini team.

And that is this, that's the vibe you're going for.

Or the Barbie twins.

I don't know if you would remember the Barbie twins.

I do.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So it's like stuff like that.

It was just these pictures of these,

you know, big-breasted women in bikinis and they would come to your bar and they would, you could bring your camera with, because it's pre-cell phone, you could bring your camera with you and take a picture with them and stuff like that.

Yeah, okay, that's kind of that I can see.

So some

guy takes a picture with them and then he has the picture and he can do whatever he wants with that afterwards.

But it feels so weird.

That it was a thing that happened and it feels like something that could not happen now.

Like it's just nobody would show up to that.

I mean, the closest thing now is like guys who go to the AVNs to do that.

Yeah.

Because that is the kind of guy, because I know a lot of people who work in the industry and like, you know, fans will go, but that's.

Even that kind of thing.

That's a porn.

So that's somebody that is, I guess, like, yeah, that could happen where, because they become celebrities, definitely, in their world, right?

So, but yeah, if it was just like local bikini babes, we'll be signing autographs here.

I think it would be interesting to see the kind of people that would show up to that nowadays.

Definitely.

Local bikini babes in your area.

Like, yeah, they're just like people like who live there in the area, is how I imagine it.

Like, the one someone's like works at the gas station or whatever, and then she's going to come in her bikini and sign autographs.

But I'm sure that's not what it was.

Yeah.

So, uh, the next thing I have here is from the Facebook group called The Art of Manliness.

That's, holy shit.

That is,

that's a Maddox joint.

That's a Maddox exhibition, the greatest page on the internet.

I don't know if you remember.

No, I don't love that.

What is that?

Maddox was a guy who, I mean, he's still alive.

He's still around.

He's had a weird few years.

I think he follows me on Twitter, which is like one of the weirdest things in the world because he was basically a celebrity to me when, to me and my friends when we were like in high school.

He ran an early website that, I mean, like late 90s, where he would just do like the stuff we were talking about before, of like being mean as like a bit,

like make fun of like kids' art,

do crude art of his own.

And like,

it got really popular for a while, like crazy popular for a site just made by some random guy.

And then he was like, his persona was like, I'm like a manly pirate, cool guy.

And then he started a site and a book called The Art of Manliness.

and like i don't know if he's even involved in that anymore but like i think a bunch of people started writing for that site as well

is it is it is satirical

semi-satirical like i feel like it started off that way and then it kind of became like

winking but still like no it is about like how to be a man like how to yeah it is it it they might be winking but the people reading it are certainly not getting that you know what i mean like the people reading it are like, so this is good from an older episode.

The art of manliness goes,

here's why you want a wood pellet grill slash smoker.

Do you have a smoker?

What do you like to smoke?

So that's, I'm not going to read the article.

The article just says, because you can smoke meat.

Like basically, so I go to the comments and Nicholas goes, I would postulate that charcoal and ceramic grill is more manly, requires more skill and delivers better outcomes to those willing to learn to do it well.

My green egg for me.

Because fucking hate it already, of course.

You know, the postulate.

Like,

I, any, if, like, genuinely, if anybody starts talking to me like that and starts using those fucking kind of words, you know, you call me a dummy or whatever all you want, I just tune out immediately.

I'm

just not like, I don't, I don't care for whatever you're about to say.

I don't care what it is.

Even if it's like, hey, there's a fucking thing, a train about to hit you.

If someone's like, hey, I can postulate that a train, I'd be dead, you know?

That's it.

Yeah.

Jeremy says, Art of Manliness should be doing an article about the Weber kettle.

Plug-in pellet smokers, timers, dials, temp settings, learn to use a grill.

Before I would spend the money on anything like this, I'd get a master-built electric smoker, Weber kettle, or

offset stick burner any day.

So this guy's...

Offset stick burner.

That sounds like some real traditional bullshit, you know?

But I don't know what it is.

But yeah, this guy's basically saying, like, real men know how to fucking cook without all the doodads and do iggies and shit.

Yeah.

Well, yeah.

Iggy, I'm going to read you Iggies now, and it's interesting.

This is the last one of these.

He goes, as a straight man, I do not want to pellet, whatever that is.

Pellets are for gerbils.

My smoker is 900 pounds of one-quarter to 3-8 steel, and it burns large, solid pieces of oak and pecan.

So straight man.

So he is

kind of a little bit.

He's kind of goofing a little bit, I feel like.

Like as a straight man, he's kind of, he's not being totally serious about the pellets being gay.

I don't think.

Yeah, he would have to be joking, right?

Like the idea that anyone could be,

that anyone could say that unironically is like...

Maybe they do, but I don't believe it.

The pellets can't be considered gay.

Yeah.

Well, the next article I found was, Iron your genes, pardoner.

So

heart of manliness thinks that you should iron your jeans.

That sounds opposite of manly.

I don't know.

Again, that sounds like that.

Listen, and I'm speaking only as a traditional male here, not as myself.

That sounds like ladies' work.

My stepfather ironed everything.

He ironed everything.

Really?

Yeah, no.

like a generation, like grandfather, like, you know, two generations back, I think they were all about that ironing everything you know i think ironing has just gotten less popular across the board no one wants to fuck with ironing anymore yeah maybe like you know i have um a steamer if i need to really straighten something out but it's easier to use than an iron but like yeah i

wish i had a steamer i'll sometimes honestly like i'll i'll use like a steam out of like a kettle or something to try to clean it down.

We hang it up, take a shower.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's what I'll do.

I wish I had a steamer.

I do like the idea of having a steamer, but I mean, listen, this is a classic man thing, but I just toss it in the fucking dryer for three minutes, you know, if I need to, you know, that's it.

Well, Dan says, sure, pardoner.

I'll get right on that after I get a manicure and a perm.

Wow.

There we are.

Damn.

Thank you.

Feisty.

Red says, anything the quote hip young crown does is probably a bad idea.

Anything.

So any sort of progress of anything is going to be considered bad.

Boring.

You know, boring.

Armando.

And their gene ironing and their

all that.

Armando goes, wearing iron jeans is like a drink cafe latte.

Changed my mind.

No, wait.

I don't care.

Okay.

And finally,

Bruce says, see, Martha Stewart.

Sorry.

It seems like he was worried about someone changing his mind.

Right.

You know what I mean?

He's like, go ahead, change my mind.

He's like, on second thought, no.

no, no, wait, I don't want it.

The idea that I could like it.

Sorry, say that one again, Brian.

I stepped on it.

I want to hear it.

He goes, wearing ironed jeans is like a drink.

Oh, no, no.

Sorry, the one after the one that I

yes, Martha Stewart, LOL.

Okay.

Oh, boy.

So I did go to a website, and it was down yesterday because I really wanted to do this to Chris.

It's a website where you can submit people to have their man card revoked.

That kicks ass.

Wait, what did they do?

Did they mail you a card and then ask you to mail it back?

No, it's email you the guy that you're, and they posted in person.

That's what we're going to read: is some of the man cards.

I see.

Okay.

But you're saying that this shut down?

No, it just wasn't working yesterday because I wanted to submit Chris because he made fun of my incredibly masculine wallet.

Oh, yeah.

You bought the worst wallet.

Oh, do you have one of those steel wallets?

Oh, it's no.

No, that wallet sucks.

That I would never.

I did.

it.

Yeah, but it's manly, though.

Merritt.

Yeah, it has a wallet.

It has like a big bump on it with an air tag and like a and like a it's it's absolutely bizarre.

It looks like a small PlayStation.

Like what many people have said.

It looks like a small PlayStation.

There it is.

There it is.

All right, let me see this.

It does, okay.

It does look a little like

covering the air tag.

Stop covering.

He's covering the air tag.

No, from the side, it does look a little like a PlayStation 4.

I mean, I'm sure it it works.

Okay, that's cool.

No, no, no.

What you have to understand, though, Merit, is what he just did was he pushes a button and then his cards flip up.

So he only paid $35 for this.

That's a big mistake.

If you're going to buy a $35 wallet, it should not have any mechanisms in it.

If it has any mechanisms in it, it's going to break down for sure.

So it was a poor purchase.

Man card revoked.

I do want to say, is there a possibility that when you submit a man card revocation on somebody that that simply cannot have their man card revoked, that it just shuts the whole site down.

That's possible.

Did you ever consider that?

Well, Gene submitted Jack as the revokee, and he goes, Reason for revocation.

Potential revokee, who is married with a kid, posted a selfie on Instagram of his outfit.

Being British is no excuse for trying to start his own, quote, hot girl summer.

25 people said yes, revoke his man card.

Two said no.

So, this is so people are, it's cool that people can, they're able to be funny.

This is kind of a place for people to be funny.

Well, some of it is.

Some people actually also call out like transphobia or like uh abusive partners on there, which I think that you shouldn't do.

That is

an extremely extremely weird venue to do that.

It is, it is.

I was looking at him, I was like, oh my God, this guy's an abusive piece of shit.

Beat up my sister.

It's like, what the fuck?

So you should go somewhere else with that.

Just to be clear, though, so you think that guy should be able to keep his man card, Brian?

I mean, I don't know.

I mean, obviously,

there should be other.

There should be other.

Okay, but like the...

This, yeah, this is insane.

I'm seeing one now that's like, it has a mugshot on it and it says man card revoked for the following reasons, making two false police reports, stalking Quantrell Bishop on Twitter.

That was my next one.

What are you talking about?

This is like, this is one of those sites where like that we just kind of forget exists because everyone is just on like three or four websites now.

But there are these like you lift up a rock and like in the woods and there's these weird little ecosystems of people just interacting on sites that like no one should have been on in like 20 years.

The chive is huge.

The chive is like the biggest of those, but this is a community.

And it's very strange that it's like, is there, because so when I used to work at the call center, I'd get to work every day.

I'd read Seanbaby.com.

I'd check in with the PRP with the Pimp Rock Palace, which was a site for new metal news.

I'd check deftones.com, corn.com, lintbiscuit.com.

What sites

was the guy who you got the job at at the call center?

What was the site that you got?

I wouldn't know what site he was jacking his penis.

Brian got a guy a job at the call center, and then the guy got fired for jerking off to porn at the call center.

And then Brian had to keep working.

It didn't reflect on me, I don't think.

Nobody ever said, like, hey, you jacked.

You basically jacked that guy.

You've never heard that conversation, but I'm sure it happened, Brian.

Marca says, you're no longer entitled to be considered a man since you have relinquished all thoughts.

actions and mannerisms to the control of a modern-day Delilah.

If you pursue this path more than more,

your locks may get cut.

So this guy sounds like he's whipped.

Whoops.

Like you, Chris.

Whoops.

Brian, you're so fucking whipped, dude.

Brian came to Vancouver with his wife, and his wife's like, Brian, can we actually go to like a different restaurant?

Because this food, I'm a vegetarian, and this restaurant has no vegetarian options.

And Brian's just like, I guess so.

Like, whoops, whoops,

whipped.

Whipped.

Okay, this is like,

I actually can't tell like how recently the site's been updated because it is a blog, but like they don't have timestamps or like date dates.

But like if you go to the archive, like the category sexy ladies, like

if I had to guess like when this happened, like this is at least like 10 years old because like their sexy ladies are Jessica Alba, Jessica Beale, Michelle Trachtenberg.

What's she from?

She was like in Buffy the Vampire Slayer and

these are classic 2000 Euro trip these are like mid late 2000s hotties yeah right yeah

okay yeah so the comments on the Michelle Trachtenberg piece are from uh 2011 so okay yeah yeah it's just the people that are using it as an actual place to try to get justice I think that is wild that you've been you've been stalking me on Twitter man card poll

and then the best thing is this person puts his real name on there because that person who

admitted it's like he's been stalking this person on Twitter, like full name.

And then it's all.

Yeah, they do that.

This guy goes,

while constantly begging for the Among Us code, he refuses to play any fun alternatives.

He wouldn't play the game deduction.

Man card, revoke.

This guy, Bigger Daddy, revokes Big Poppies.

He says, running two heaters in a small office while it's only minus three degrees outside?

Louis Roman does also say Quinn actually goes after Louie too.

He goes, two heaters and wore a jacket to work.

Are you cold?

Revoked.

He might have like a, yeah, some kind of a circulation issue or something.

Here's an interesting one.

Pet cat revocation by R.

Bell.

He revokes Cody's.

It says, single male, aka bachelor that has a cat.

Okay, that one I can get behind.

It's the single guy.

You gotta throw him in jail.

Single guys.

Well, only ones that are in the lifestyle, but we despise them.

Yeah.

So finally on the chive, I do one more thing here.

All men do this, but won't admit to it.

20 gifts.

And the gifts are pointless.

It's just like

it's just these, but they riff on it.

Can you show us a couple of the gifts?

And like, I would like to see a few of them.

If you gotta have them.

I think I can get the site up for you.

Okay, that would be great just to see.

I know what you have an idea.

on you know i knew you would ask this is crazy because yeah i'm looking at these even though you can't like see the the dates it's clear that like these were

at least like in the last few years because there's like some of them yeah yeah there's like references like there's an among us reference uh there's there's a an ape there's someone has a photo that's an ape from uh oh yeah from the nfts so like this isn't all like 10 years ago this is in like the last four or five people some they're still doing this they're revoking revoking man cards

Okay, so we've got imagine having your man card reboke revoked

We'll just let that one go.

Okay, well

what's what slide or scroll down so we can see some more of these

Okay, okay, so wait, this is 20 things all men do

getting spooned by

their partner, I guess, is one of them.

Okay.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You know, Superman.

One of them is just a Superman.

One of them likes to be Superman.

Nose picking is more common than anybody will admit.

So we do pick our noses.

Morning peas sometimes go sideways and there's annoying cleaning up to do.

Okay.

Sniff our armpits to be sure we don't stink or we enjoy the smell.

I would never admit to that.

Yeah, I just like to huff my own pits.

You know, it's normal.

Try to clean the toilet bowl with your pee stream.

I don't, I do kind of do that.

I do that.

I feel like I've heard of that.

I I do that.

I do that.

I will admit that.

I do that.

This guy just says jerking off more than we say we do.

I mean, it depends on how much you jerk off.

Yeah, how much you say.

Probably if you're doing it too often, then maybe, yeah, you might feel the need to be like, oh, yeah, I do it.

Like Brian, he'll wait for other people to say the number.

Do you know what I mean?

He's like, oh, how much?

And he waits for someone else to answer.

And then he answers like one lower than that or whatever, because he knows his real number is like alarming to people or whatever.

This guy says, sometimes when we shave, we try to see how we'd look with the mustache of a certain Austrian painter.

Sometimes it's even my wife's idea when she knows I'm about to shave.

She's like, come on, do it real quick.

No,

I don't do a Hitler mustache.

So

I've never done it, I will say.

So let's get to some of these that

I prefer the ones in the comments that

the less artful people cover.

And Chris, must be you, Chris, actually.

He goes, I admit to everything I do.

As a matter of fact, you see an absolute smoke show in a store, definitely going to head down any aisle she's in to get another look.

Oh, you're going to follow a lady around the store just to look at her?

Oh, cool.

So you're admitting to that, huh?

Oh, okay.

Yeah, that's a good thing to do.

That's an admission you should.

That's actually really a cool thing to do.

Yeah.

So you just like follow her.

Like, it's kind of cool how, like, you're watching her and she doesn't even know, right?

That's kind of a cool sort of element It's pretty manly.

Yeah, very manly.

I mean, yeah, that reminds me of like those Twitter posts that were going around for engagement like a year or two ago where it was like you see her in the aisle What's your approach?

Yeah, what's your and this guy's approach is like well I follow her around the store

I just sort of something just dawned on me though is like uh-huh

Stalking, like stalking a woman, like sort of following around and oggling her against her will, like sort of sexualizing her in a way when she doesn't want, that is pretty fucking manly.

Like, as far as

how an actual man acts, I mean, that is actually, yeah, like, you know, like men are pretty horrible, right?

Yeah, and he's kind of, maybe he's like, that's his, that's his manliness is he's doing, maybe, yeah, he's doing the bad man, you know?

Because Coast Ranger goes, one of the biggest fights I got into with my ex was that an extra fine woman came into Home Depot.

I was two or three aisles down and didn't notice, but I damn sure went to find find out what I got busted for.

So, what he's saying is, his wife accused him of looking at a hot woman in the Home Depot.

He says he wasn't, but then once he was accused, he was like, I got to check this hot woman out.

I mean, you can only get so wet, right?

You know, you're like,

you're already, you know, making the best of a bad situation.

That's kind of yeah, I agree with him there.

If he's like, yeah, I'm already being accused of this.

I at least want to see, you know, UK Scofface goes, I'm very lucky.

My wife will actually nudge me and point out a decent cleavage if she thinks I haven't seen it.

I hate stuff like that.

I hate those.

For some reason, when guys are like, actually, my wife is cool and doesn't mind the bad stuff.

I hate it.

I don't even know why.

And I'll bet you if a woman, woman did it and said it about her husband, I would hate it too.

I don't know.

There's just something in me that's like, it drives me fucking nuts.

Yeah, I mean, it's like one of two things, right?

It's either like this performative, like, like, oh, check that out.

I'm cool.

Or

I don't know.

I guess there is a situation where it could be like maybe she's just by and it's like, wow, check out that rock and pair.

Like, hey.

Yeah, I think it could be a really cool, like, I think that it could be really nice.

It's like this real, they have this real trust in that relationship where it's just like, I don't, I have no jealousy at all.

I know you're with me and I can also appreciate it.

And we can appreciate together when we see someone attractive or whatever.

You know, that's like kind of healthy.

And then also, there's some people that we've met before where

they see another woman and they say, Hey, look at that.

And then they think about doing more about it.

I hate that.

That is another thing.

I remember being at this party, and there was this guy there.

He's now divorced.

Thank God.

So, if I ever go, I probably won't ever go to another party there.

When was this?

What age were you?

Yes ago.

It was like probably five years ago.

Oh, okay.

You were full.

adult brian yeah and we were it was when i first it would have had to have been 2014 i think because it was when i when we got into you were doing street fight though right at that time yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah which makes this even weirder right is i'm fully that's when i fully got back into wrestling and i was like at a friend's house and we were kind of talking about mma and wrestling and Ronda Rousey came up and this guy just looked me right in the face and goes, would you?

And I just walked away.

I just went into another room and was like, I never wanted to.

I thought about it.

Did you have to really think about it?

I went to the bathroom to jack my piano.

Too horny at the cut.

Yeah.

Ronda Rousey mentioned excuse me.

I had thought of having sex with her and I was like, fully 10 hot.

You know,

that's a grace reference.

So that is, I mean, I, I.

That right there will make me not like you for the for the rest of your life.

I just don't, I hate that.

I hate when guys are like, hey, you know, huh, you know, and I was like, also like Gwen was born.

I just don't like it.

For like, okay, like, so whatever.

Yeah, baseline level, it's, it's gross, right?

Like, it's fine.

But

like, what's so funny about that question to me is like, you know, nine times out of ten, it doesn't matter who the like person they're asking about is, the answer is going to be yes.

And like they could lie and say no, but like, oh, hey, would you have sex with like this woman if she was willing to have sex with you?

Like, yeah, sorry, I'm sorry to do a little generalization of my own here, but like

most of the time, the answer would be yes, right?

Like, yeah, they're not giving like a real like Sophie's choice.

It's not real, right?

It's like, you can do this or this.

Like, that's like a difficult choice, but like you, and it's like the person that they name is like somebody who's like,

I just thought of the word.

I'm not going to give the example that I was going to say.

Give it.

Okay, I'm going to say that.

Give the example.

Okay, so it's like, oh, it's like the hottest super model in the world, but she has HIV.

You know,

I immediately regret asking you to give it.

See, I'm telling you, Merritt, I have these intrusive things that I could say often.

Okay, no, but that is like, but I will say, I have seen stuff like that on message boards, like 20 years ago, of like, if there's like a 10% chance that this would happen, would you do this?

And it's like, okay, you're just asking like a gambling question at that point, like, whatever.

Like, but this one is really more just the one that Brian's talking about is more just so so you guys can then both sort of talk about outright.

Like, yeah, you know, I would.

I'd fucking do this and that to her.

I mean, we met a friend of ours in Mini Kiss.

Rest in peace.

He's done right.

I got his audio.

If anybody wants to hear Mini Kiss, talk about women.

Do you have it right now?

Do you have this outboard?

Yo, man, they are hot.

Damn, what's up, girl?

They're hot, man.

I mean, I'm tired.

I've been on the road for a long time.

What I would love to do right now, man.

This is the lead singer of Mini Kith.

That was the lead singer of Miss Talking to some women in bikini.

At Roverfest, the aforementioned Roverfest that we talked about.

Yeah, that he was talking to some bikini babes there, and he was just sort of, he was really,

you could see that he was sort of out of it a bit, but he was really thinking about what he would do, what he would do with those.

And they were not.

One of them gave him a sarcastic thumbs up.

Yeah.

Here's one final little thing here.

This is what men wish that other men would stop doing.

Mo Sislak says, telling other men, quote, what real men do.

I also hate any shirt that says real men.

And then the insert next guy goes, I want to totally ironically get a shirt that says real men don't tell other men how to be men.

Oh, that's possibly the fucking lamest shirt I've ever heard.

In my entire life.

I don't know if I could go a lamer shirt.

And you're looking at the chive when you say that, too.

You know what I mean?

That is like, that is like standard is so high already.

Everybody thinks that's cool.

There's nobody who sees that shirt and is like, wow, good shirt.

Everyone.

Well, there's a couple more.

Otis B.

Driftwood says, real men don't read shirts unless the wearer is a woman.

It's cold and they know braille.

Wait, are you talking about dialing into dialing it with

Tokyo?

Are you talking cheated into

Okay, wait.

What, huh?

You're not getting that one?

Oh, no, I mean, I get it, but it doesn't.

I don't get it.

It doesn't really make sense.

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, it doesn't make sense.

Oh, yeah.

I mean, okay, I got...

Okay, fine.

I'll

be on the three else.

And one nipple.

Yeah, that's true.

You're flicking at the nipples.

Yeah, sure.

Yeah.

And that's, and you're reading the shirt based on that.

Yeah.

That's

probably just flicking at her nipples in a sexual kind of way.

Yeah, kind of.

Like an erotic way.

Really, it's still.

Creo says, what if it said real men do whatever makes them happy?

Oh, we found a lamer shirt.

Yeah, thank you.

Thank you.

I did not realize the competition was still going, but we have a new winner.

TV Paul says, stop bragging about how many chive collectible coins and mini bars you have.

Believe it or not.

This is for you.

Right.

Yeah, you have to look at you.

This has been an intervention the whole time.

So much about Alexander.

You have to stop.

And you sent me a chive coin, too.

I did send Chris a chive coin.

What are these coins?

Are they like cop challenge coins?

Like, what?

They're challenge coins.

This is mine.

You can't really see it in the lighting, but mine's the bill.

It says, keep calm and chive on on one side.

The other side.

It says, humor, hotness, humanity.

In Bill We Trust.

And it's a Bill Murray.

It's Bill Murray.

Oh, my God.

I kind of envy these people because they haven't had to do any personal growth in like 15 years.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Like

It's kind of beautiful.

Like they found their thing and are like, I never have to change.

Yeah.

Like we don't even like Bill Murray's like not even the guy anymore.

No.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

But to them, he still is.

It's very, it's very cool.

He goes, stop writing about how many chive collectible coins and mini bars you have.

Believe it or not, some of us just have trouble paying our bills.

Oh, well, yeah.

Okay.

And then that's the truth.

No, no, no.

That's the, that's a very, very important statement is that like,

listen, manliness is also about fucking supporting the working class and possibly unions as well.

Yes, paying your bills, you know, and finally, Darth Vader says, uh,

the real one, not the truth.

Right.

Uh, the Darth Vader.

He goes, man buns, for the love of God, just no.

And then

when was that?

Man buns.

When was that posted?

2023.

No.

Jesus Christ, man.

Man buns is in God.

It's like 10, like that, That was like 10 years ago.

Like this guy.

That's funny too, because the guys who are so invested in this stuff are always doing like, there was the latte quote earlier.

Lattes were like a thing in the 90s.

People have been drinking lattes normally for like 30 years.

They're always like, oh, the skinny jeans and the lattes and the man buns.

And it's like...

That's what young people were wearing 15 years ago.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

When you were in high school.

Yeah, exactly.

Like, skinny jeans haven't been cool for a while.

Like, you just don't, you become frozen.

It's like, oh, these young kids with their emo music it's like they're most people you're talking about are 46 right

yeah

yeah and the final quote on the man buns is uh just it's a guy with a rush 2012 2112 uh

you know avatar and it says it's 2112 as predicted and he goes just two words douche knots

what

you call a man bun you call a man bun a douche knot like people who have a man bun now it's like they're just the people who always had them.

You know what I mean?

Like they're right.

There was a few people who had them.

They're the lifers.

Yeah,

they're not a thing anymore.

It's not like indicative of the type of individual that you are

discussing.

And I would also say that some of the man bun stuff is 100% just guys that lost their hair and are pissed.

You know what I mean?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's what bothers me.

How can you have such long, luxurious hair?

Yeah.

Because I always look at white guys with dreadlocks and I'm like, man, I wish that was me.

That's what I wanted.

Like, are you very like.

You know what?

It's hard to tell with Brian if he's being serious or not when he says something like that, which is really interesting.

Because if I said it, I think you would know I was joking for sure.

But I really wanted dreadlocks.

That was my jealousy of people with long hair is that I don't have dreadlocks.

Were you able to like, when did you, when did you, um, Brian, Brian, you don't have long hair now?

I've been shaving my head since like the eighth grade or since probably like the ninth grade.

Not shaving it completely at that time, like getting a fade.

I never had long hair.

You never did long hair.

I never really did long hair.

I'm starting to like lose my hair a little bit.

I have, I still held on to, so I still have some and I'm still okay for now.

But yeah, I could have done it for a long time.

And I do sort of kick myself now that I never did long hair.

And I still, of course, could.

I could do the classic old

long hair where it's not very thick on the table.

Yeah, like the Hulk Hogan kind of thing.

Yeah.

You can get a Hulk Hogan.

It's pretty fucking badass.

And I, of course, I have a wife and a family now.

So it's like, hey, who gives a shit?

You know,

I just really wanted dreadlocks.

And I don't know if I used to have this haircut.

This was big in the 90s.

I don't think you guys would even know about it, but you would, you give yourself a fade like on most of your hair.

And then you would leave the bangs and you would.

brush them down so the bangs would come down into your face.

It was a very stylish look and I had that.

You had that.

Do you have any photos of you with that haircut?

haircut?

Like a Chelsea.

I have to find it.

I don't.

There have to be pictures of me.

I just want to clarify too that I was meaning it as a joke to say it doesn't matter what I look like anymore because I have a white child.

I still do want to be handsome.

If anything,

there are probably more people invested in how you look now.

Yeah.

And it was just I brush, I, you brush the bangs down a little bit.

I'm trying to picture this.

All I can picture is like a Chelsea where you shave your whole head and just sleep, but that's not traditionally It's basically yellow haircut.

Yeah, I definitely, I think the only time I did see when I was younger, there was a guy that I went to school with who was Filipino who had a similar type of haircut to your, that you're describing, but it was never a like trend.

It was never something that a bunch of people had, you know?

Everybody had it where I was from.

Maybe that was just girl, though.

You know what I mean?

So anyway, I had this hair.

I have this hairdo.

And what I would do often was like come to school and I knew this girl that brought the stuff and she would braid the bangs, and I'd walk around with the braids bang, like

how old were you?

I need

this.

I was 17 and stuff, okay.

And so you're just like, you're fully queerfied, obviously.

Yeah, but as queeber as it gets.

Imagine this guy named Queber walking around with fucking braided bangs and his shoe head.

What's eggs?

What is Queeber?

Oh, sorry, man.

Horrible.

That's the worst thing.

That is the name that he was called for his entire life until he was about 28 years old.

Like, people only knew him as Queber, and he mistakenly brought it up on a show about a month and a half ago.

And now people are calling him that again.

And now we have to clarify every story he tells.

I have to ask if he was Cueber or Brian.

I got a picture that'll show you what I looked like.

This is not me.

This is not you.

Okay.

Well, still, this will help.

This will help.

oh, oh!

Oh!

No, they were that long?

Yes.

Oh, my God.

Oh, my God.

Oh, my God, dude.

Oh, my God.

Incredible.

What the fuck is that?

It's like four.

It's like four

braids, kind of, like really long ones coming down below his nose.

It looks like...

The top half of his face is in jail.

But that is actually a really good.

picture for the episode.

You have to try to find the photo of you.

That's

incredible.

You know, I don't know how many photos there are of me looking like that because

you have cameras around back at that time.

Right.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You know, it's basically picture day.

And that's your day, picture day.

Your parents wouldn't let you do that, maybe, right?

My parents didn't pay any attention.

I did it once I got to school.

And when I got home, they, I mean, like, look, you know, braids were really cool.

White dreadlocks were really cool.

Sure, yeah, 90s.

As a corn, right?

That's why I wanted to.

Yeah.

That's why I wanted braids was because of corn.

Who had braids in corn?

The monkey?

Yes, monkey, Jonathan Davis.

All of them had a type of braids or dreadlocks.

And that's what I wanted.

I just realized.

Fieldie had them.

Fieldie had cornrows, which I would have settled for, but I just never had.

I mean, he probably wrote it down as uh, right?

What the he would change the C uh when he wrote down the word corn rose, I would imagine, change it to K.

Yeah, I would have, I, I, I definitely was like, really, I wanted braids and I really wanted to like look like the guys in corn, but my hair was

Brian walking around with this haircut being known as Gweeber

is just

that's that kicks ass.

That's so good.

That is

beautiful.

Yeah, that's that's man, guys.

It was very fun.

And uh, Merit, you got you, you want to plug something?

Um,

yeah, I just sorry, I need a second after that.

Oh, hey, you know, take all the time you need.

It was definitely, uh, I know that it's a weird thing to see.

I never thought I'd find a picture that kind of looked like I kind of wonder who that kid is.

That's like the

example picture we found.

Um,

probably like a respected

businessman now.

Yeah, he's doing fine.

He got

figured everything out.

Right.

I hope so.

Yeah, I'm sure he's like a normal guy now.

Just like you.

Oh, yeah, I know.

It's just, you know,

it was the style at the time.

Yeah.

What did you say there, Brian?

Just like you?

I said he's a normal guy, just like me.

Remember, Bryce on the

$8 tier, he did say I'm the most normal guy he knows.

And Brace, as we discussed, does not know normal people.

And also,

I think might have been, I haven't heard the audio yet, might have been making a joke.

I'm not really sure.

I don't think so, but yeah.

Okay.

All right.

I've recorded.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So, yeah.

I think last time I was on here, I was plugging the Lamb Party book.

That came out.

So that was cool.

It was fun.

We all left it.

Bestseller made a million dollars.

Great stuff.

The thing that I'm working on lately is a game called Fledgling Manor.

It's on Steam.

You can wish list it.

It's not out yet.

It comes out probably at the end of November.

It's about a reality show like Big Brother, except everyone is a vampire.

When they get voted off, they get their heads cut off.

So, yeah,

it's been a really cool project.

What style of game is it?

It's a visual novel, so it's very like slow-paced reading, interact, like making choices.

Gotcha.

But we made it in like five, six months.

It's me and two of my friends.

And

it's yeah, it's been a lot of fun.

It's like, I think it's pretty funny.

If you like reality shows or vampire stuff, like that interview with the vampire show that's going on right now.

Or if you like what we do in the shadows,

you know,

some similar kind of tone stuff.

So it's like a horror comedy kind of thing.

And yeah, so it'll be on Steam and you can play it on like Mac or PC.

And even if you don't think you're going to buy it, or like if you're like, yeah, it's not really my thing.

I'm scared of vampires or like I don't like visual novels.

If you wish list it, like it's not like you're like committed, it's not pre-ordering.

Wishlisting is just you press a button that says, I'm interested, and like it puts you, it puts it on your like list of games, you're wish listing.

And the way Steam works is if a game gets enough wish lists, like they start to promote that more heavily because they take a cut of every sale.

So they want things to do well.

So they put things that they think are going to do well on the front page.

So it really helps us if you just go to Steam and press wish list.

And you don't even have to buy it afterwards necessarily.

That's what you can do.

That is like a very simple thing you can do to give a little guys bump.

Yeah, just press it.

Press the right thing.

I mean, we know you're all on Steam because we know you're little gamers.

And we know you love games like me.

And we just had a Nintendo guys episode with the go-off kicks, the gamers.

Which, by the way,

before we hang up

on on this call, I want to say that

I really won trivia.

It was, I didn't cheat.

It was the Wi-Fi issue was

a problem.

And Wi-Fi broke.

And then the guy said.

We're going to write this down on paper.

And we won our first.

We're going to mark our own papers at the trivia.

So there's going to be no oversight whatsoever and no way to verify.

Not my fault.

So, but we did win.

So, don't let people lie to you and say I didn't win.

I mean, truthfully, the only, I'm not even joking.

You went with Katie and Gwen?

And my brother.

I'm not going to ask your brother because I know your brother, he could be in cahoots with you.

You could have paid him off or whatever.

But I will ask.

Katie wrote the fucking answers.

I will ask Katie.

I will ask Katie and see if you actually won.

Okay.

Well, I love it.

We'll see you all next time.

Look at the look in his face.

He's just like in panic.

He's just like, okay, how can I make this happen?

Like, how quickly can he send a message to her?

How quickly can I get to her?

This is nonsense.

And next week, debate, guys.

So we'll have a little fun next week.

See you all

have fun next week.

And here's why.

Bye.