Guys: Episode 138 - Rave Guys with Tony Boswell

1h 34m

We had our friend Tony Boswell (WordIsBondTv) on the show to talk about his new project (support him) and Rave Guys. What even is a rave? Should a new father go to one? Should we be tipping bartenders? What is the one problem of the Shrek Raves? Are there satanic people making you satanic at their raves? Finally, a 50 year old woman describes what a rave is.

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Welcome to Guys, a podcast about guys.

I am Brian.

And you know what I wish?

I keep doing this lately and it drives Chris crazy.

I wish we could make like when we do an episode that has a music thing, we could make the theme that

this week we're doing Rave Guys, and Chris is here.

Hi, Chris.

So, sorry, do you, but so I would do that.

You make a techno version of the theme.

Okay, you want me to, you want me to make a so you want me to use samples from the actual theme?

Yes.

And then make it turn it into a okay, Brian.

You know what?

In my mind, my mind is you just put drums under the theme.

Okay, Brian,

I'm going to go ahead and promise that to you right now and most likely forget about it and not do it.

Well, it's already too late if you didn't forget about it because it's already played.

Everybody knows what happened already.

It's crazy how much more you know as a listener than I do right now.

I'm so in the dark on everything.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I just told Chris next week's episode is penis, guys,

on Sunday.

And he was like, oh, okay.

Well, let's get our guest on here.

He's been on before, Tony Boswell.

Hi, Tony.

What's up, guys?

Glad to be back with the Fed Lists talking about guys.

I'm very excited about this particular topic.

I didn't know what it was until a second ago, and I'm fucking pumped on this.

I didn't put my candy on.

I wish I would have put my candy on before.

We started recording.

Yeah, that's the thing, right?

The candy necklaces.

Now, did you, you,

this is, did you even say it was Rave Guys?

Not yet?

I did earlier, but I think what I want to say is Tony is the guest for Rave Guys because

one of the, not the last time, but the time before I went to L.A., you invite the

because I go so often.

The time before the last time I went to LA.

This is not fair, by the way.

I want to say it's not fair that I, like,

I can't even go to L.A.

anymore

because of all this insane shit that's happening in your country and so it's kind of unfair now I kind of feel like

yeah it must be nice yeah you know honestly like yeah you don't get to go to LA like have fun with everything else about not being American that you get to enjoy

yeah but Tony I want to go to LA I want to go to Melrose I want to go to Sunset Boulevard Hollywood see celebrities

oh I want to I want to the last time I when I you want to hear a celebrity story holy shit.

So Stephan and I were in a, Stefan used to live in Hollywood, Stephan, past guest, Stefan Heck.

And we were in, yeah, we were in 7-Eleven and by his old place in Hollywood, and who did we see?

The guy who used to go on the street and tell people to vote for Howard Stern.

What was that guy?

Melrose Larry Green.

Melrose Larry Green.

And we saw him causing a huge scene in the 7-Eleven and making the Workers' Day much worse.

So that was kind of a cool Hollywood story.

The last time I was in LA, I didn't see, I don't, the only celebrities I see are podcasters, you know, and Tony.

But the time before last,

Tony invited me to a rave, but it was the night I got there and I hate being out late.

So I

said I might go and it was very close to my hotel, but I chickened out.

And let me tell you, I've never been to a rave in my entire life.

And as a matter of fact, I'm going to say this about it.

Well, this is because of my regressive nature.

When I was younger and raves were taking off, I believed that they were gay.

And I also believed that ecstasy was gay.

It is.

Well, it did famously make a guys do, you know, French kisses on each other when it wasn't really a thing that was sort of happening any other time.

So I can sort of understand that.

I will say, Brian, you thought a lot of stuff was gay.

God, goodness Lord.

Well, it's because everybody said it to me.

And like I read in, I remember reading in Spin, and this isn't anything I knew about.

I didn't know that there was gay stuff going on at Raves at all.

Like I didn't know at all what was going on at Raves.

As a matter of fact, all my rave information came from my brother.

who went to raves and his friends.

They all went to raves.

I was like, oh, guys, going to those gay raves i'm going to go to this heavy metal concert and rub up against a bunch of sweaty i'm going to go to these i'm going to this heterometal concert to fucking hang with my boys

full of guys too i'm going to a i'm going to a thing that's like 98 guys yeah no doubt the rave is definitely having a lot more uh different sexes there without a doubt but tony you you are now you went to a rave and this is not that long ago so you've been to like raves recently recently?

I go to a rave every once in a while.

Actually, I was saying, I actually have a funny stat that I don't think anybody else in the world has.

Brian's actually not gone to two raves with me.

That's true.

That's true.

Yeah, because we did a live show, and they were like, we're going to go to a rave after the live show.

And I was like, you're going to go to a rave after the live show.

I'm going to go to the hotel.

And that rave, that rave was awesome.

And it was like...

A couple people who came to the show and it had such a good, that was such a good time.

We were all like VIP and shit for some reason, except for one of the people who was with us, like, was real mad that I was dancing.

And I'm like, we're, we're at a rave.

And they were like, can you not do that?

I'm like, we are on the floor at a rave.

Like, what are you?

And it was so funny.

But yeah, you've bailed on two, two raves with me.

You know, you don't get a third chance.

I'm just some unfortunate news for you, Tony.

There are a lot of people that don't like dancing at raves.

A lot, that get kind of mad about it.

We'll probably talk about them a little later.

But yeah, I just don't like being out all night like i

recently had to stay up all night and i've talked about this a thousand times it was my brother's fault i had to stay that's why we canceled this original podcast i had to stay out all night recently and i mean when he when he had a medical when he had it when he fainted yeah when my brother

you mean he had to go to the hospital yes he did have to go to the hospital that was the issue you should you should have maybe approached the hospital like some people approach raves.

Maybe you should have like taken some MDMA, maybe some other, you know, recreational drugs to really power through that hospital stay.

Well,

yeah,

I also got recently yelled at about the way I acted at the hospital.

I got yelled at for that last night.

So thank you.

Yeah.

Well, maybe you're talking to me.

It could have helped help joke maybe a little MDMA then potentially.

Well, I just wasn't talking.

But it would have, I just think maybe, yeah, you probably would have been talking a lot more.

Maybe some cocaine.

I know that'll get you talking.

But

I've never been to raves either.

I grew up when raves were like huge.

You know, like people, it was like when raves kind of started, it was when I was younger.

And I sort of, I didn't feel like they were gay.

I didn't have that sort of attitude towards them.

I just didn't like dancing.

And I felt like that's what those were, were places where people went and danced.

And I did like to take ecstasy.

I did like to take MDMA, you know, mushrooms in ecstasy, hippie flip, we would call it.

But I would just like, I would just go like do something.

You just go listen to Fleet Foxes.

They weren't even around, you idiot.

But, but they,

they, uh, I don't know what they started.

They could have been around.

He could be lying to me.

No, they weren't at all.

But I, I, I just would, you know, like maybe I would go.

I don't even know what I would do.

Like play video games maybe would be something.

I would just go like hang out with friends like at a party or whatever.

But I, yeah, I always thought raves were dancing.

I'm interested to find out that some people

were actually

anti-the pisses some people off, okay?

So, yeah, we went to, so at first it was like, man, there's no rave subreddit,

you know?

Oh, now let me explain to you why.

Let me explain to you why.

Because it's R slash Aves.

Get it?

Do you get that?

Sometimes they, oh, that's a good one.

I know.

somebody somebody was like fucking absolutely flying on drugs and they came up with that selling.

Oh my god.

They could have been happier.

And they got in early with that.

Like that's that's the impressive part.

Yeah, because they could have, well, no, I was going to say it could have been AAVE.

They took the A-A-V-E page, but they didn't.

There's actually a R-A-A-V-E page, too.

So here's a question somebody asked, and it's just only two.

There's only one.

I only have a couple of things.

What is A-A-V-P-E?

Is that a pornography thing?

No.

Every time you say a thing, I assume it's pornography.

You don't have to take, uh, you don't have to take responsibility for this because you are not American, so this is not your responsibility.

But it's African-American vernacular English.

Oh, I did know that.

I didn't know that.

Yeah, but I didn't know that.

I just assume.

I always assume, though, that Brian, when he brings up something like that, I always assume it's like a

anal.

Anal.

Anal.

What is?

a no?

This is the episode before penis, guys.

I'm on somebody clip that comedy clip, right?

Don't clip me saying anal all over and over again.

So, this guy goes like this: this is a question that is going to come with a little bit of me in it.

My wife is due one month after EDC, which I believe is the Electric Daisy Carnival.

That's right,

started right here in San Bernardino, California.

San Meridino, California is a mecca for raves.

It's uh, it was the orange show, grew up going there for

just like fairs.

And then also when I was like 16, sneaking out, going to a rave for an hour, getting caught by my mom's parent,

by my mom's friend, and

getting picked up immediately.

Yeah, shout out Samino and Raves.

So

I know what a rave is, but what makes it a rave specifically?

Is it the length of it?

Is it like, you know what I mean?

What just makes it not just a dance party or whatever, just a party

I think

yeah well it's it's the music

it's the music um it's usually at night it's also the plur yeah

man what's the plur I decide what's plur oh

okay I'm gonna let you be the arbiter of plur I think

it's peace love unity and respect you dingus

peace

peace love unity and respect I have

all day and all night.

Yeah, I mean, there's nothing wrong with that.

So it's a positive kind of thing.

But sometimes people use plur to justify some

not-so-great things.

Is there fighting at raves, would you say, Tony?

Like, are people fighting each other?

People are buying drugs and doing drugs.

So, yeah, there's fighting.

Yeah.

So this guy asks a question that I found very interesting.

He goes, my wife is due one month after EDC.

Is it okay for me to ask to go?

My wife and I are expecting our first child mid-June, so I know my festival-going days are somewhat numbered.

I haven't gone to festivals regularly for seven years, and my wife and I will certainly miss the scene.

I went to EDC Vegas last year, it was such a blast.

My wife will definitely not be going this time.

What do you think I should do?

Is this kosher of me to even consider?

Would love to hear your thoughts, parents.

Now,

I have to recuse myself because I did go to several concerts in the time in that

pregnancy and stuff.

You were extremely selfish

at that time.

I saw,

she was nine months and I saw,

I saw Primus one night, I know, and then the darkness the next night.

And

the darkness.

Going to a dark, the darkness show.

So

the Primus one was the more pathetic one because it was like this.

It was like, I know you told me it's cool if I go to the dark because you know my wife.

She's, you guys both have met her and hung out with her.

She's not going to say no.

She goes, I go, I'm going to go.

Yeah, it's up to you to, it's up to you to have this sort of,

I agree with this now.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, I don't know.

I think sometimes, but yeah, I think you're obviously a lot better now.

You wouldn't like, if you were, do you think right now in your life, like if you had a child, you would act differently?

The Primus thing is interesting because they were playing Frizzle fry in their entirety so it was kind of one of those things where it was like they might not do this they're not going to play frizzle fry in their entirety again and you gotta hear frizzle fry in its entirety that's what you that i can just picture your

like pilled out ass explaining that to kate you know

no that's the one with too many puppies on it yeah that's the one

yeah you love too many puppies like you're like she's like i'm really like brother that was was, I learned, that was a lesson it took me so long to learn.

Not, I remember one time I was like, you love Soulfly.

Why don't you just go to this Sepal Tura that started as Sepal Tura?

It's Max Caballero.

And she's like, I don't know who any of those fucking guys are.

But I was like, you got to go with me because I figured if she didn't go with me, she'd be mad at me.

So anyway, this guy gets the first answer he gets is, I love this answer.

This is a very plural answer.

LOL, your fault for

impregnating someone.

Deal with it.

Oh,

that's okay.

I think that's not.

Yeah, that seems like really confrontational.

Well, then this guy goes, if you want to pay child support and alimony, depending on your income, go for it.

But I would not.

And you knew the answer.

It's your first child.

Fuck a festival.

No judgment.

Which, by the way, the whole beginning of that comment was judgment.

He goes, but the kid's now number one.

You didn't know how they, like you didn't know how they were made so he

that was just a good

so they're mad about they're they want people to be childless it seems like or some it seems like that's like you lose because i guess when you have kids yeah when you're when you have kids you're not you can't go take a bunch of children you're investing you're investing in future wavers i love how everyone who oh that's a good point good point

everybody who like leaves these comments are in like the worst relationships i know like if you if you have an answer, it's because you're in a terrible relationship and you only know how to deal with your, you and your terrible relationship partner.

Where it's like, listen, I know exactly what my bitch wife's going to do.

And

I assure you, you should not deviate from what I would do to appease my bitch wife.

Yeah, because

they do seem to have a negative, I mean, you don't want to pay alimony.

Like this guy's like, hey, man, you're going to get a divorce.

Yeah.

Like, he's telling the guy he's going to get a divorce.

Like, he's just saying, he's just asking, like, hey, should I go to, to listen i would say i just had a kid i just went to several rapes i won't stop talking about it and i i think that if you and your partner sometimes there can be things where it's like hey she could be like go to this because yeah you're not going to be able to you're you're having a kid there's a few things like that i feel like i can't i can't like think of a specific thing where where ariel was like no you should go and see this because you know once we have the baby

yeah maybe it's chrysalis i saw that more recently, though.

You, I'm sorry.

I've been bragging a lot about going to the Kreiser show.

I talked about in the bonus episode.

I saw Kreischer outdoors.

He ripped his shirt off.

He came out to do loom, do loom, dox board.

Made to wave the flag.

It was wild.

And he had horrible energy.

Sorry, Brian Gold.

Guys, here's some energy.

Here's a guy with some good energy.

But now, Chris, this will remind you of Jam Ban Guy episodes.

Okay.

And Tony, you'll love this, I think.

Is it just me or was this couple kind of non-plur slash bad vibes?

So last night I was dancing at Nocturnal Wonderland.

I dance with passion and I dance very physically.

I can tell already.

I can tell already that this person is a problem.

You know, like this person is going for like Elaine style, you know, like just, or just, just really taking up a lot of space.

Oh, yeah.

And, yeah.

Yeah, because listen, so he goes, to the point where my body is covered in sweat, I also dance shirtless.

So, see, now that I think, I just hated that in a mosh pit.

You know what I mean?

Which they do those at raves now, too.

But, like, I remember

hate like that.

Tony, you have to remember the feeling of sliding off of some shirtless guy some fucking metal concert absolutely yeah one of the worst feelings you can ever

i do have to admit though there there is there is like one picture of me uh pitting with no shirt on um from actually not that long ago which is the crazy part it was probably like two years ago at a zabalbo show um and

what is your overview what's your explanation for like how do you how do you defend yourself

we were in la this is an ie band i had to show off my ali empire tattoo i had had to let people know what it was.

You were.

Yeah, it was me doing what I had to do as an OG,

as an unknown,

a hardcore unknown.

I was obligated to do it.

There's just certain things you have to check off.

I did it once.

I'm good.

I'm never going to do it again.

How do you think people reacted to it?

Do you think that, did you feel like people were avoiding you?

Fear.

Some people were, I think, were turned on by it.

Tony's big, by the way.

Tony's not like a small guy.

Tony, you're sitting down, so I can't tell.

Can I get a height check on you?

You know, I run about 6'4, 265.

You know,

is that really true?

He's very tall and big.

I mean, I didn't think you were short.

Like, I probably clocked you.

I thought you were around 6'1 or 6'2 or something like that.

That's wow.

So you're a big, huge dude.

I'm a big dude.

So, you know, the cool thing is that when you're a big dude, they kind of just stay away from me anyway.

So nothing slid off of me.

You know?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But yeah,

can I clarify?

Can I clear one thing up about this topic?

So, like, we're talking about raves, right?

I'm going to go ahead and be that guy who's like, I still go to raves.

And by raves, I do mean like warehouse parties.

And they're talking about festivals.

which is like an EDM thing and it's like a whole new thing.

And the difference between like

raves and like warehouse parties and, you know, festivals and like raves is that the lamest person you know is going to a festival and they're taking their shirt off, and that's where they dance with passionate energy because they don't, it's it's just like you're there for a vibe and like you like the DJ, but all the DJs suck, it's all bad.

And I'm being very like elitist here, and I'm aware of that, and I embrace that.

And I think everyone can go ahead and take that approach because go to a warehouse party, it's a totally different vibe than, say, a

what was the nocturnal wonderland.

I have no desire to go there.

But have you been to one of them?

A long time ago, when like so when Electric Daisy Carnival like transitioned from being a good fest, like a good rave to like a bad rave, I went to that like first year and I was like, oh, this is, I don't like this.

Yeah.

Well, you're not in the, I mean, you're not in a minority of the people on the rave subreddit.

Like, I think they would all rather go to an illegal party.

I'd hope so.

But also he he goes, they're expensive as fuck.

Oh, I know,

so it's rich people there mostly.

It's, yeah, I don't know.

He goes, suddenly, a couple with some other people stuffed around me really tight.

Now, I want to point this out: you're in a crowd, brother.

People are going to stuff around you really tight.

That's just the way things are.

There's a bunch of people, and he's going to complain about something that I actually have some experience with, too.

He goes, So, I just kept vibing with the music as I do.

And this girl was standing close without paying attention that i could not see her my arm gently brushed hers when i make contact with somebody by nature always give a sincere sorry and smile to them so i do just that i rub sweat across her arm she looks down at it and never at me and doesn't say anything except ew

Next thing is later, like 15 minutes, I guess her boyfriend does the same thing and I gently brushed him with my fingertips as I was moving around.

No sweat this time.

I apologize and say sorry, bro.

He just stares with no response or smile smile and moves on.

I don't know.

To me, it just felt like a very non-united, non-loving couple of people.

They were cold and did not strike me as ravers, just people there.

So

at big arena shows too, at big arena like concerts, like metal shows that in

2000 or 2003 would have fucking been insane, everybody's just standing there.

What I i think that is is that is

because they're expensive so if i paid this i paid 145 to be on the floor at a deft tones concert per ticket not just for me for both of us you know and um

The last deftones show I went to probably paid like $60, $50 per ticket.

And the place was fucking insane.

You know what I mean?

Like because they're a great band and they're great live and their audiences go fucking wild.

But these last two I went to, there's almost like no pit.

It is like

the people, and this happens at the jam.

Me and Chris have read this about the Jam Band stuff too.

The people that get to the front

are not fucking leaving.

Like they're going to stay there.

They're not moving.

They paid whatever they paid, $145

to get to this thing.

And they're just like, I paid paid $145.

This is my spot.

I'm not moving for anything.

So, there's really no pit at any arena show that I've been to in years.

And I think the same thing's happening now that they've kind of legitimized raves and made them

like festivals instead of like illegal parties.

You know what I mean?

But people are still on a bunch of MDMA and stuff.

Oh, right.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like, that's the whole thing.

That's the whole thing.

That is the thing, right?

For a lot of people?

Or Or is it like, like, Tony, do you, do you take drugs when you go there?

Yeah, I usually take some drugs.

He's clean.

Yeah.

You know,

it depends on like, you know, the vibe.

But yeah, I'm usually taking a little bit of drugs.

But most of the time people are taking drugs, you find, like, or like, like, I'm trying to get a vibe.

I don't want to say everyone does.

But the majority of people are usually in the middle.

Yeah, they're usually in by

drinking.

It's like by the way.

Yeah,

it's drug kind of mute.

That kind of music is like the kind of music that you enjoy on drugs.

It honestly, to me, feels like, and this is just me.

I'm an asshole.

It feels like the only way you could enjoy that music is beyond drugs.

I just don't like the repetitive.

It's like a repetitive thing with me.

You know what I mean?

You like it when they, you're like, why is nobody noodling this out for fucking 10 minutes?

Like, you like when they take one note and noodle it out, right?

I like when a guy is like,

I don't even need the guy to play guitar.

I saw the Wu-Tang clan, I loved that.

I had a great time at that Wu-Tang clan concert I went to.

I need people to be doing stuff.

He's okay without guitar.

He's so just okay.

Well, because people will say, because people will say, well, there's a lot of music that's not with guitar that is really good.

So I had to say, I've seen Killer Mike.

I had a good time.

I've seen shows, right?

ASAP Rocky, Schoolboy Q.

I've seen all these shows live without even but i still i still need them to be saying stuff or like and it's a regressive it's it's a a closed-minded thing about me and it always has been that like the first second because i i talk about this on the podcast sometime like when i was growing up i read spin magazine not

rolling stone Spin because it's the hip one, at least if you're in Groveport.

It was cool.

It was cool.

I I liked spin back in the day.

Man, and the second time, the second they started talking about techno, I was like, there's just,

there's no world in which I'm going to like that.

I just hate it.

I hated the people, the way people looked that not, listen, that comes off a little wrong, but I hated like the style.

and stuff like that of the time too.

You know what I mean?

We would make fun of it a little bit.

Like, I feel like my friends and I would make fun of it a little bit.

We would do the thing where we would like, you know, we do the

obviously like just sort of mocking the music a little bit, but we would do the passing the ball thing a lot, the imaginary ball.

Do you, are you familiar with that?

It's like, you know, like it was like sort of a thing like you were going to have to demonstrate.

Yeah, you pretend you have a ball and like you're holding it and then you pass it on, like roll it off to someone else and they have it.

It was like something that we somehow learned was like a rave, a rave thing, you know, like somebody either lied to us or told us truthfully that that was like a rave dance move.

And we did love to do that.

Like we thought it was really funny to start doing that.

The thing is, I did Molly like

right before the pandemic for the first time in my life.

Congratulations.

Oh, thank you so much.

I was also a mushrooms and hot, I was doing all kinds of stuff.

Makes you think if you didn't do Molly, would we have had a pandemic?

That's a fair question because it was 2019.

So I tried it and I was like, oh, man, like, this is just like all the other stuff I missed out on because I thought everything was gay in 1998.

Yeah,

listen, I don't like to advocate for drug use, but yeah,

I definitely had a lot of fun when I would take MDMA out.

A lot of fun.

And I would take, yeah, mushrooms and MDMA and a small kind of amount of both or whatever.

And I would always have an absolutely fantastic time.

Sometimes the crowd gets tighter and it's rude to be the one guy who refuses to take up any less space, especially if that means spraying sweat around a bunch of people who are probably only closer to you because they got squeezed into an empty spot.

This is true.

This is the so of course somebody disagrees with that.

Disagree.

If you move into a space where someone already is, you take what you get.

What do you mean?

But what do you mean?

So they can just.

So if his space is huge, though,

he's doing a dance tarp, basically.

It's tarping.

He's tarping in a way.

He's creating an imaginary tarp beneath him by dancing so wildly and smelling so badly, I would imagine.

Oh, God.

Oh, just

insanely bad-smelling guy in my mind, the guy I'm picturing.

And so he's just like creating this force field around him.

And then it's just like this guy's kind of saying like, no, if he's in that spot, but it's like, well, he's in that spot.

He's also in that spot.

He's also now in that spot, you know?

See, you can't go to his spot.

I think there's a couple of people to blame here that aren't necessarily the dancer.

Um, for one, the DJ.

Um, if if dancers are not in the majority, then you're not doing your job.

Uh,

and two, uh, the boyfriend, uh, sir, you're in a crowd.

Why are you not having your girlfriend in between your arms, like facing the same direction with your arms draped over her shoulder, or even like kind of creating a border around here around her?

Why is that not happening?

Classic.

Everyone knows you got to do that.

That's the classic

classic.

You even care about yourself.

That's the classic badass.

Never did that move.

No, I wouldn't have.

Can you imagine that?

I imagine you doing that, like badass, like from a movie cool guy, like, you know, draped over the girl.

Thank you.

That's my,

but when I, sorry, just to be clear, when I imagined it, I burst out laughing in my mind.

Well, I'll say that I took a lot of great pride in the fact that my wife moshed at the time.

You know,

that's cool, yeah.

That's awesome, man.

She's in the pit pit going fucking crazy just like everybody else.

You know, so I took a lot of pride in that.

But I do also understand,

I don't know, like at a rave, I would think, and listen, I don't know anything, that you'd be kind of dry humping behind her.

You know what I mean?

Well, yeah,

you would, yeah, you would be, you would be horny.

Everybody there is horny.

MDMA does make you horny, I do feel like, in a way.

So I do think that there is some truth to that.

But yeah, I I don't know I mean I guess you're out in public I I mean I would imagine it is a big thing where people are getting way too sexual with their dancing at raves and stuff like that

Rave dancing isn't the horniest a lot of it looks really stupid like a lot of it's not really horny like so it's kind of like a turnover like the um like the the the stepping they do like the not the two yeah the two step they do or have you seen gabber music have you seen the gabber dancing no it's i just learned about shuffling so yeah shuffle shuffling.

It's very not sexy stuff.

It like

barely like the coolest shuffle barely looks cool.

It's still pretty cringe.

And like it's all pretty bad dancing.

You know, mostly I think it's just like a like a two-step and like a little, nothing too horny.

And if there's horny stuff going on, that's because it's horny stuff.

It's not necessarily because of the music.

But people are horny, but you think people are horny, but not dancing horny.

Not dancing horny.

I would like their mind is horny, but their body is being like regular.

I'd have my little pee-pee through my zipper.

What the hell?

That's not pleur.

That's not plural.

I don't know this scene that well.

I would imagine that that's very much not pleur, my man.

It would only be for my wife.

Yeah.

Oh, okay, cool, cool, cool.

This guy goes, I know I'll get hate for this take in this subreddit, but honestly, the whole plur idea has just gotten out of hand to me.

I love concerts and shows as much as the next guy.

My lifetime concert count has

gotten to over 150 at this point, which is nutty.

Are you doing a count concert then?

I mean, whatever.

Like, teacher, I just, I guess I've never considered doing that.

I stopped

the amount.

I stopped when I started throwing my ticket stubs away when it got to around.

I remember.

I was like, I've been to 23 concerts after that.

I don't know what happened after that.

Yeah, I stopped after physical tickets because I stopped keeping them in a little shoebox.

Yeah, I don't even, I never, I stopped keeping them before physical tickets went away.

I just was like, I had this this like box.

First, I had like one of those baseball card cases that you'd shove the tickets in.

I shoved the tickets in, but they would like come apart because there was a lot of tickets and I didn't buy another one for some reason.

So, like, once that happened, I was like, I'm just throwing all these fucking things away.

I threw them all away except for the two I have.

I still have them somewhere in this house.

I have Jonathan Davis's

autograph on one again.

He wrote HIV and made a happy fix with it.

I remember.

I remember.

You get it?

I had Fred Durst's, and he signed it, Fred Biscuit.

And I think he signed it the day he owned me for asking about the white pony.

I love when you got owned by Fred Durst.

I got your body.

Many people love when I got owned by Fred Durst.

So, you guys,

I've gotten over 150 at this point, but there aren't some special set of rules for a rave.

We're just people going to a concert together.

Just treat people the same way anywhere else, and you'll be fine.

The idea that plur is some legally enforced rule set that is different than how you should act literally anywhere else is ridiculous.

Long story short, yes, you're overthinking this.

I kept that because I think it is very funny to like

to say, listen, you might think this comes off as very uneducated.

I've been to over 150 concerts.

Yeah.

I'd go into the school of hard knocks, if you would,

but for

concerts.

Here's one you guys are going to love.

I've noticed the broccoli generation doesn't understand the general public, LMFAO.

Very is that the broccoli hair?

Is that LMFA?

You don't understand how much they.

Do you blame them?

Do you blame them?

People who aren't comfortable enough with themselves to dance in public hate those of us who aren't.

Now,

that might be a little true.

I did always, I would go to the club.

I did go go to clubs.

It was called the Yucatan Liquor Stand was the one I went to a lot.

Oh, okay.

So, you went to one of the more high-end ones?

And I would stand.

I'll step back and show you guys how I would dance because I didn't want to dance,

but I wanted girls to rub their butts on my penis.

You know what I mean?

I didn't want to get grinded on.

That was what I was looking for.

Now I'll stand up and take the thing off.

Yeah, you

okay.

so he's he's i mean it seems silly his arms aren't moving at all so he's kind of like he was kind of bouncing up and down but your arms so you you didn't think to ever do any arm movements at all because i think that that would have helped out just like any sort of arm movement at all no because i didn't want to be perceived as dancing was was the grimace part of the dance

I get it.

You're like, I'm not, I can't be having fun.

I'm reluctantly here.

Tony, you hung around.

You're trying to butt on me.

You can run You've been on the door with me.

Yeah.

You know, I never want to look like I'm having fun.

That's true.

That's true.

That's that's but you were, but you, you wanted some girl, you wanted a girl potentially to start rubbing up on you.

And then, and then so that's why I would kind of move.

It would, it would just be kind of, I'm, sometimes I'd get the shoulders going or the head.

Yeah.

You know,

that's not doing a thing.

Right there, you were doing

it.

The head is something.

The head.

You weren't doing anything with the head or the arms.

So it was really strange the dance you were doing.

I never wanted to be perceived as moving a lot.

Or great.

Did it ever work?

Did it ever work for you?

Did you ever manage to bring a girl home for a three-hour

nipple suck sesh?

I can remember

one time.

Did you disappoint any young woman?

Yes, I think I did a few times because

I do remember times where

a woman would come up and they'd be kind of pulling on me to do stuff.

You know what I mean?

And I was like, whoa,

yeah, they wanted to dance with you.

They wanted to dance with you at the club, right?

Yeah, but they were trying to puppet me into dancing in a way.

And I was like, that ain't happening, sister.

You say puppet.

Like, sometimes dancing does involve the people holding on to each other and one leading or whatever, right?

Yeah, but I don't think we were doing salsa dancing.

Okay, you were doing

sex dancing.

when i was uh when i was a kid i was in an elementary school i went to a catholic elementary school and they were going to have a dance for the sixth seventh and eighth graders and um the the priest at the time very publicly stated at every mass of that sunday that we will not be having a dance because dancing leads to intercourse and brian what i'm saying is you fucking blew it i both so many times you have no idea

if they were if they were even coming over to you it was not because they were dancing it's because they liked you and you know if you would if you would have only known i would have have looked silly, but he wasn't interested in intercourse.

Yes, I was.

This is years after that happened.

His mind was Lt.

Please, please, I ask you, I beg you, Brian, to not snort into the microphone because if I use a compressor, I have to physically take

it right away.

This guy goes, you need to start putting LED glow sticks or something bright and colorful in a circle around you to indicate that you are a wild dancer.

No, this is tarping.

This is tarping.

Well, you can't do that.

Preferably far enough and then back where it's not really an issue.

I think there's maybe an opportunity here.

Maybe we sell like lit up hula hoops and we sell them as like rave guards, like dance guards.

But large, extra large.

They have to be big because...

We'll call them safe spaces.

That's,

I feel like, I feel like for certainly if you want to sell me one that's going to do me any good at a rave, this thing's going to have to be 50 feet.

It's going to have to be gigantic because my space, I just, well, the thing is, I get like,

my dancing is like tied to my emotions, and my emotions are wild, you know?

So I get out of control.

Would you say you get like a little primal?

Like you kind of just like

regress back to the tribal.

I would just say like, if people can't handle it, if you can't handle me at my, you know, worst, because, yeah, I, I get quite physical and uh aggressive as well i punch and i kick me too let's go i crowdkill i crowdkill

crowd killing at the rave is definitely move

crowd killing at the rave just people like plurring it up like you know on molly and just donkey kicking them just

yeah i crowd kill at the rave this guy asked a question this i wanted to get to a plur thing now we're at a plur question i served you guys for over five years across multiple festivals it was suggested that i tell y'all about gratuity and electric daisy carnival now he means served booze yeah yeah festivals and raves okay

uh he goes hi everyone little heads up bartender split everything except for cash the example i used in a comment was so you really like me and you want to tip me 14 each bar set splits each bar set splits their tips among themselves which we get zero proof of, nor can we see our tips at the end of the shift.

So we're entrusting the company not to fuck us.

There's usually anywhere from eight to 28 bartenders in a bar set.

It just depends on where you're placed.

So in this case, we will get, we will call it a 14 set.

So I will get $1 of that 14.

Then I got to give 20% of that to my bar back.

And then 28% goes to taxes, leaving us with 32 cents of that generous gratuity going to the person you actually wanted it to.

Tldr, Cash is king, and we hook up those who hook it up.

Now,

this was not received well

by R slash.

I think it's like, yeah, it's a little bit just kind of like they're not interested in all of that fiscal stuff, right?

They're like, they're vibes, very vibes-based.

So you're coming in here with all this fucking concrete money type shit.

It's like really harshing

the vibe.

Well, it's like, that's really good advice for just every day, any bar you go into.

But see,

I don't want societal rules telling me what to do.

I don't want to be told I gotta tip somebody for their labor.

You're not pouring this drink for the love?

Yeah, it's for the love.

Thank you.

It's like, so we can all get a little closer to each other, maybe.

Oh, I see what it is.

This is you want some money from me.

Okay, I get how this is.

I gave you a bracelet that said BFF forever, and you gave it.

You're still mad.

I mean, $14 is quite a tip.

That's a great tip.

I would say.

Like a tip.

But they only end up with 32 cents.

They only end up with 32 cents, which seems, I don't know, man.

That seems fucking.

I didn't listen to all of it because when people start doing math stuff, I tune out.

But it sounds to me like if the $18 tip only getting 32 cents, that seems like that couldn't be legal or okay.

I wouldn't want to do that.

This guy goes, I always tip $1 per drink, not order, but per drink.

I think if everyone did per drink, I get.

I think if everyone did at least $1,

you'll be compensated well.

And then he's really tough.

That's a really small tip, isn't it?

The drinks are like $7 or $8.

So,

right?

So he's just like,

that's not a good tip.

But you're doing it all night over and over again.

So this guy goes also:

if I can get two drinks at a time and you let me pound one and order another without going to the back of the line, that's a $10 tip on top for you.

Okay, so

this guy's an alcoholic drink.

This guy loves alcohol.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Two drink minimum.

Two drink maximum.

Okay, let me drink one real quick and give me another one.

Now you get $10.

Listen, if you enable me, I will give you $10, no problem.

If you help me out, if you call my wife and tell her that I'm just fucking hanging out with the, like, at a work function, I'll give you $28.

If you tell my wife I'm sober, okay, what I'm going to need is your phone number.

And then when I get home and my wife says, god damn it, you're fucked fucked up again, I would need you

to call you and say, I'm sober.

What do you mean,

why would you do that?

Because I'm going to give you $36?

Listen, I'm going to be pretty drunk when I get home.

I'm going to need you to fuck my wife.

Yeah.

Okay, now that's a $45 tip.

Now that is something Brian and I can talk about.

I know you could get, I mean, why not go to Freedom Acres if you're out in California?

That's a bull situation.

This is not a cuck situation because I'm going straight to sleep when I get home.

That's fair.

It doesn't matter what you're going to have sex with my wife in the bedroom.

You're pretend to be me, too.

I don't even have a cup of money.

You don't have to watch, I think, for it to be a cuckoo thing.

Anyways, we don't have to.

Talk with my voice.

Doing an impression of me.

Tipping culture really is annoying.

Sorry, I'm not going to waste my time or risk losing cash while I'm tripping just to make sure you get a better percentage.

I'm sure you still do fine considering you're basically serving a never-ending line of customers.

I agree with that guy.

I know it's wrong to say tipping culture is annoying.

Sometimes it is.

I'm not saying all the time.

I don't mind tipping.

Yeah, I tip all the time.

Well, because you have to.

But I mean,

I tip all the time.

I would say, well, there's some, maybe certain circumstances, but the way I see it, and I think most, a lot of people, we probably feel the same way about it, is that like, hey, it sucks.

These people are not being fairly compensated, and they should be.

And it's sort of up to, you know, decent people to pick up the slack.

It should not be, but it is, and those people deserve to have a living wage.

So, you know, you can participate in that.

But yeah, it, I mean, in Canada, it's

probably the same exactly in America, but it is obviously, you know, gotten completely wild where it doesn't even matter.

The one that I think about, I'm going to a white caps game at right after we record this.

So

there's a self-serve thing

the White Caps concession where you just come up and do it yourself and it gives you the tipping thing, you know?

And it does seem, listen, I'm pro-tipping, but it seems a little bit wild to be leaving a tip to the computer.

You know, I'm not actually a big fan of the computer taking all of those jobs.

I don't think I should leave the computer a tip.

And that does insinuate that just the cooking staff gets that tip, but I don't think that's what happens.

Oh, Tony, there's no cooking staff.

This is just for like snacks.

This is a snack little snack bar thing.

It's essentially a big vending machine that you go to and you know, you can pick out like, you know, peanuts or whatever, candies, bottle of water, that type of stuff.

So there's no preparation whatsoever.

You are literally tipping the computer.

Now, now, I totally agree with you there, but Brian is making an argument that maybe bartenders fall in that category.

I disagree with them there entirely.

I am not making that argument.

That's what I'm asking.

I need to

clarify.

My argument is a thing that doesn't involve food or drink,

right?

And you go to a thing and they just didn't turn the tipping off on the machine.

And you're just like, I don't want to, I hate, I will never click no tip ever.

Yeah.

There's just no way.

But there's some places where it's like, okay, like I bought a shirt here.

Like, who am I even tipping at this point?

Yeah,

a retail tip does seem a little bit odd.

It's like, why are we, when are you, when is someone else going to pick up the slack here and pay these people proper wage because it's like this is getting a little crazy we can't be we can't be as uh as just regular working class people we can't be funding every single other working class person that we interact with

i like this guy's dollar it's the same dollar going in circles now do i like do tip the merch people tip the merch people at concerts yeah I'll do that.

Anytime, anything like that, most definitely.

I'm talking like you go to a store.

And you're also talking about not the situation and the question at all.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, yeah, you were talking about just tipping culture.

Brian was talking about tipping culture being annoying and just happened to bring it up in

this example, which is about a bartender where, listen, they live off of tips.

And I got a tip bartender.

I love this guy's post that is very not plur.

I'm going to designate this post not plur.

I'm sorry, but I don't really care.

Maybe the furthest thing on my mind at a rave is how you split tips.

Well, that's honest, though.

But that's honest, right?

Because you're on a rave.

You're like on it.

You're on drugs.

You're lose vibing to the music.

You're thinking all kind of plur.

You're probably horny in your mind.

You're trying not to let people know how horny you are.

And so it's kind of hard to be thinking about tip breakdowns.

Now, I'm going to give you guys a great guy.

A great here's an anti-tipping argument.

Now, you got, it's three posts here.

Okay.

Okay.

The first guy goes, tipping a freaking bartender?

What a joke.

Wait, wait, whoa.

It's like one of the main tipping things.

Like historically, through history.

It's one of the ones.

One of them.

It's one of the ones.

What a joke.

You're literally doing your job by serving drinks.

That little interaction.

This guy doesn't understand anything.

For his justification.

He's new to everything.

Sorry, Brian.

He continues.

Sorry.

You've got to hear his justification.

That little interaction shouldn't last more than a few seconds to a minute.

So he gets a reply.

That That mentality works for European shows.

If you're American, you're just making people in the scene look like assholes.

So the guy that said, tip a freaking bartender, what a joke.

He replies and goes, I mean, Trump nowadays is already making Americans look like assholes.

So shrug emoji.

Oh, so he's just like, let's just fucking act like the imbeciles everyone thinks we are.

And they all think we're stupid, anyways.

Might as well give them what they want.

If this is how you're going to express that you're black pilled and you're not tipping anymore, I'm okay.

I'll take that, I guess.

I think it's funny.

I think it's funny to be like, this is somebody to say, well,

there is a tipping culture, whether you like it or not, it exists.

And

industry is put up like that.

A guy just goes, yeah, but Trump already makes us look like assholes.

Got his ass.

It's a good excuse for a lib, though.

Like, you'll, I'm surprised you don't see that more

with, like, lib guys

that are, like, doing a deeply antisocial thing.

And then when somebody calls them on it, they're like, Trump already makes us look antisocial.

Ooh, I would tip you, but you get tax on your tips, so that means I'm funding a genocide.

So

you're going to actually pay tax on that, aren't you?

To Donald Trump.

And sorry, you're giving that tax money to Donald Trump, the fucking big orange man?

Methinks not.

No, I will not be.

I will not be funding Donald Trump's campaign.

Let's take a look at some Ticketmaster reviews for something called the Shrek Rave.

It is a

themed rave.

I don't like that.

I'll tell you what.

I don't like it.

I don't like it because it's like, I'm not a big fan.

And I don't want to be judgmental, but I'm just not a big fan.

It's like, you know, taking a rave, but it's like, it's a children's thing, right?

So it's like, grow up, grow up.

Don't be doing your drug party and having it be up, you know, from your childhood memories or whatever.

I just think that's there are a lot of jokes in Shrek that are there for the adults, though, too.

It's true.

It's true.

I may, I mean, I'm not saying I don't remember Shrek.

I think it was probably fine, but I think it's a children's film, right?

Is it not?

Yes,

brother, I've never seen Shrek, and I never will.

I refused to watch children's stuff when my kid was little.

Holy shit, man, that's badass, dude.

I'm like one of those guys.

I'm like one of those guys.

It's like, I don't talk to my kid like a baby because that's not how things are in the real world.

Yeah, I told my kid how it is.

That's what I do to Charlie.

You know, I try to explain to Charlie, like, yeah, no, you fucking pick it up.

This is all it is in the real world.

You get your baba.

It is fun to make fun of babies for how bad they are at stuff.

Oh my God, my babies are so, so, so, so, you know, incapable of doing almost everything.

It's insane.

It's crazy the way they are.

Three stars.

Shrek rave at the Rits and Raleigh.

I've been to three Shrek Raves now.

What?

Three?

You go one time as a joke, maybe.

Hey, I think

somebody might have their Tinder bio.

Well, I like the next line, too.

First one in Myrtle Beach at House of Blues.

Now, Chris, you might not know about Myrtle Beach, but it is where people from Groveport go.

Yeah, I've I've heard of Myrtle Beach.

They pretend they're in Florida.

Yeah, yeah, I've heard of it.

I've heard of it.

It's in South Carolina.

I believe so.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I've never been.

We went to Hilton Head because of my parents' thing as like there's golf at Hilton Head.

So it's more of like a middle-class, upper-middle-class place of like.

They didn't play golf, just to be clear.

My dad plays golf, but did not play on vacation because my stepmom wouldn't let him play golf.

Stepmom's been away from him.

Did you let him play golf?

No.

She also didn't want him bowling for a period of time.

They had to fight for that.

That's like his passion.

I mean, bowling and golfing.

Cruises.

And cruising.

Cruises.

Not cruising.

Cruising.

Yeah, bowling and golf.

Cruises.

And cruising were his three things he liked to do.

And she tried to take away.

She just didn't like him going out bowling.

Because, okay, so this is the story I've been told.

Not by my dad.

This is rumor around the house as far as

you haven't thought to maybe ask, go to the source and ask your father?

I heard this through the rumor mill.

You've heard this story about my dad through the grapevine.

I heard this through the rumor mill.

That he went, they went out to dinner before a night of bowling.

And they went to this place called Cahoots,

which is a titty bar with food.

You know what I mean?

So you're

who picked that for dinner?

Do we know?

He says the other people, but that didn't help because then she was like, I don't want you hanging out with those other people.

Oh, I see.

Was she at the dinner?

No.

And one of the people was Rick.

One of the people was Rick, who was my dad's best friend.

And she was just like, I can't be hanging out with Rick anymore.

Unfortunately,

Rick rented the shoes at the bowling alley.

Brian, can you

imagine katie trying to tell you that you're not allowed to hang out with somebody i mean that might be why i'm psychotic to tell you the truth that might be i'm why i'm the way in my relationship that i am why i just remember getting with katie and being like you're never going to tell me what to do like that was like one of the early things i said to her Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

You're never going to tell me what to do.

She told me that you looked her dead in the eyes and said, listen, bros before hose.

I probably said something close to that.

I know I told her I'm not going to be pussy whipped very early on.

You would have been saying shit like pussy whipped and bros before hoes 100%.

100% Queber would have been saying that shit.

He would have been like fucking sketching it into his fucking note.

I remember, I'm not my fucking dad.

Yeah, that's right.

You're not your dad, Brian, because he ain't bowled a 300.

Yes, I have.

I have the

ring for that.

It's from him.

He goes from him.

First one at Myrtle Beach at House of Blues.

That was by far the best.

Music was a great mix between EDM stuff and actual EDM

mixes of the Shrek soundtrack.

The two Shrek raves I've been to at the Ritz have been mid in comparison.

The turnout is never that good.

And this one that just passed was.

No, I hate the idea of that, right?

It's got to be a big turnout.

You show up and it's sparse.

I know.

Oh, my God.

You go to the Shrek rave and you're fucking like you're flying on fucking MDMA.

You're just like so fucked up.

And you show up and the crowd is sparse.

And

you feel blue green.

And you're blanked green like Shrek.

You're totally into it.

Don't you like fully, like, you've been waiting for so long and you show up and the crowd is sparse.

That would be one of the like most brutal fucking nights.

I do believe we get some numbers in here, by the way.

Okay.

Wait, because there was one that I think said it had 12 people.

Oh, fuck.

That's not a red.

That's a number where you feel guilty leaving, too, right?

Like, I remember

when I was doing like open mics, I would go and there would be so few people that like I didn't want to leave at the end.

You got to see it.

Because it's just like they'll see me leaving.

No, you just got to leave.

You just got to become a guy who leaves.

That's what I did.

I just wouldn't.

Yeah, I just left.

I just would leave for sure.

But I do remember.

Yeah, I remember doing open mics.

I used to tread the boards, Tony.

Properly, I used to actually do it.

But I used to do open mic.

I remember the guy who's running the show.

There's like so few people in the audience.

And there's this horrible thing in comedy where you show up to a show to do a set and you enter through the door and you see the look on the like the organizer of the event.

You see the excitement and then you see it wipe away when he realizes it's you who's not an audience member but just another performer and he's like oh great you know and the amount of times you would see that doing stand-up like 10 10 times a fucking a month easy i mean that the when the number is small enough

That you think that if you did leave, the DJ would feel sad.

So you just stay.

That's a brutal fucking Shrek rave, if you ask.

Yeah, totally.

If you feel like, hey, I want to leave, but I feel like the DJ might like stop the music and and like say something

hey where you going brother you coming back you going to get someone else or are you meeting somebody outside

right yeah

he's got people out in front of the place on their phone saying it's the shrek rave it's a rave

with shrek uh he goes uh she goes uh

has been mid in comparison the turnout is never that good and this one just passed was less than the last.

Don't even know how the DJ were for the last two.

We need Groove Cube and Sinova to the Ritz.

That combo was amazing.

Overall, the music needs to be better and more Shrek themed.

Better and more Shrek.

That's the problem.

This is a trend right now, and they're awful because there's like a Shrek rave.

I saw a Twin Peaks rave,

SpongeBob Miserable, Spongebob rave, Sonic rave.

Instead of having a theme rave, maybe just have good DJs.

Yeah, maybe just do that instead.

What if your theme was good DJ rave?

Oh, Tony, how about how about fucking music?

It's like

donkey.

Donkey.

Yeah, I mean,

I do feel like I was just like, they say they want the music to be better and more Shrek themed, and I feel like that is difficult to pull off, to have it be better and also more Shrek themed.

I think you sort of lose some of the better when you add the Shrek.

Here's a three-year-old.

They already played seven remixes of All-Star.

Yeah, well,

here's the three.

Here's a three-star review.

Title?

Mostly rave.

Some Shrek.

I'm disappointed.

Yeah.

I would sum it up the Shrek Rave as not as advertised.

Pros.

First, everyone was welcoming.

No one cared who you were, how you were dressed, or how you danced.

That could be a negative, though, too.

I mean, nobody cared.

Everyone there was having a good time.

No drama, just love.

The costumes were great cons house music was played for the first 30 minutes and when the shrek part started it was scenes played on a screen behind the dj i thought there would be like costume contests and overall more crowd interaction the crowd made it shrek a few songs from the movie were mixed in a little more thought into the theme would have gone a long way

They did play the Shrek song.

I don't know how many Shrek songs there are.

I don't have like a number for.

Oh, hang on.

Sorry.

We can't write some more?

I mean, we can't.

Bring somebody out to rap.

Have somebody come out and do a Shrek rap.

Like,

yeah, I mean, Mike Myers,

fanfician songs.

Yeah, Mike Myers is still around.

Eddie Murphy's still around.

You know, you get samples of their voices or whatever, and

with the, you know, the powers of computers, you can easily make some.

Well, we don't use AI around here.

We're really anti-AI.

AI making Shrek like fan fiction Shrek music.

I think it's a mandate.

I agree.

And AI is really good for if you want to animate Chuck Norris jokes, I think.

I bet.

Perfect for that.

I bet.

A guy goes, so

two stars for the price, shrug, but honestly, could have been better.

So online, it looked like it was going to be a lot of fun.

But being there, drinks were very overpriced.

One drink was $28 for a solo cup size.

I paid $28 for this trinket to Shrek Rave.

You might want to do some drugs.

That's a low moment.

That's a low moment being like, you know, like, what?

Sorry, 20 is not covering that?

I mean,

I'm also wondering, well, they're going to say the number here, but how many people that are at the Shrek Rave?

have ever been to a rave rave or even like a festival.

Like, yeah, like, are they just Shrek fans?

Are they just fully like Shrek, like, insane Shrek fans who are like thinking of this as sort of like, hey, this is going to be a Shrek event?

We, and I go to every Shrek event.

Yeah, it's, it's meme kids.

It's kids, it's kids who are there for the meme.

Like, it's that's, it's, it's, most of them, that's why three is wild because you go one time for the joke, you go one time for the plot, and then you never go again.

And you talk about how, how fun, but stupid that thing you did was.

Because, yeah, it does cost like $65 for a bullshit thing.

i think some of them must like some of them must like shre like some of them must these this guy's going back three times must be like obsessed with shrek yeah that's crazy because security was a little overdone for an event of less than 75 people not even

that's a small event

dressing up and dancing around with friends it wasn't bad but if you're expecting a banger you're getting more like a high school first homecoming people are mostly standing or off to the side plus a lot of cokeheads sweating.

Just a bunch of sweaty green cokeheads at the fucking Shrek grave.

Oh, what are you going to do tonight?

I'm going to do a bunch of cocaine and go to the Shrek grave.

Sweet.

Sounds like fun.

Yeah, yeah.

Hey, Tony,

could you do us a big favor?

Just like the guys' podcast, could you, if, where do you live?

I live in the California, LN Empire.

So you live in, okay, so

I spent a lot of time in LA.

Could you go to like, if you, if there's like a crazy, you know, themed rave?

No.

Could you?

No.

We can't make people do that.

No, I can't do it.

I'm talking to Michael.

I was asking him.

I was asking him if he would do it.

If he would do it to come back on and tell us about it, you know, because I'm really

good at it.

I'm looking at Shrek Rave and seeing if it's coming to Vancouver.

Yeah, like I will go and do it.

If one goes to Vancouver, if one comes to Vancouver, I will go and do it.

Because I'm just like,

I'm genuinely sort of fascinated with what that would look like, like what it would actually be like.

There's 19 of them coming up.

They got one.

I don't think there's any Canada ones.

You guys probably have walls against it or whatever.

Oh, yeah.

The closest that's getting to you is Seattle.

Yeah, and I can't.

Yeah.

Very close to me.

I could drive there.

I could drive there in 45.

I have a passport.

I just am afraid to come to your country.

I don't blame you.

Okay.

There aren't any around me either.

Thank goodness.

So anyway, this guy goes, two stars.

Last year was better.

What's the point of having a theme when the DJs are just going to play their regular rave music?

They literally did a Taylor Swift song.

Last Shrek Rave, they actually remixed Shrek songs.

The crowd was way more excited and danced back then.

Yeah, the crowd would, I mean, that makes sense.

That is crazy to me that they don't do do the Shrek songs.

You can't do the Shrek song.

It's like the magicians, Chris.

You can't always be doing a magic trick at a magic show.

You can't

always be playing Shrek stuff.

But did they, they said they didn't play them at all, or maybe they just were there for a short, like only for some of it, and they didn't hear the Shrek songs potentially.

Yeah, maybe they left early.

Maybe they left early, yeah.

This guy goes two stars.

Could have been so much better.

So we'll get some helpful criticism.

The idea was great.

The people were great.

The show itself was underwhelming.

There was no video board or any visuals really behind the stage.

Only the always-there screens above the stage where you have to look straight up to see.

They just played the same very short video on Luke the entire night.

I want her to be dripping in Shrek.

Same with the.

I want her

to be dripping in Shrek.

It's a real good line.

It's a really really good line.

Same with the Shrek quotes out of them.

They were few and far between.

I thought it would be constant Shrek references.

It's a Shrek rave, right?

Many times it just felt like a random DJ said at a club.

I had a blast, but it was an underwhelming production.

Meaning zero Shrek.

Meaning, and also he's like, I had a blast because he was high on drugs and just still had a good time.

Yeah, yeah.

Three stars, fun visuals, but the DJ played little to no Shrek music.

The only music from Shrek he he played was like the instrumental track along with the words of a non-shrek song all the

that's a whole Shrek that's a whole Shrek song you can't say that the music from a Shrek song with somebody singing other lyrics over it that's a Shrek song yeah and that's what DJs do man DJs are mixing you know this sounds like this guy is this sounds like that DJ is extremely creative and I might I might want to go check out one of his shows yeah because all all the attendees understood the assignment.

Everyone was dressed to the nines in Shrek characters, and the DJ couldn't read the room and did not give the people what they wanted, which was songs from Shrek.

There's only like four main characters in Shrek.

I don't know.

I would do anything.

for them to give one of these people the reins of the Shrek Rave.

Like, just pick a guy that gave it like one star star and say, it's yours.

Put together the next Shrek rave.

And I'll bet you it will suck so bad.

Be terrible.

There will be people watching Shrek because that's what they really want to do.

They want to go and watch Shrek.

Dance to all-star.

I'm kind of worried.

I'm DJing tomorrow night, and it's not a Shrek-themed, like, anything, but I also have no Shrek songs on the set list.

And I think it's like maybe I might need to just get some Shrek songs on the set list, anyways.

You should just have an alternate Shrek song,

just have a couple Shrek songs on there just in case.

Like, obviously, sort of break glass in case of emergency.

If things start going really wild and you sort of get the vibe, like, I don't even know.

Yeah, I can't even reference a song because I don't All-Star, I guess, right?

All-Star is the is from it.

Okay, here's the last one.

You know, what I'll do is I'll take a gangster rap song and use the beat from that and play the lyrics from All-Star over it.

That would be hilarious and so good.

So these next two things are different, but they're going to be a theme.

So this one is one star and it goes, this was not worth the money.

The DJ was mixing up anything because she knew the crowd would dance to anything.

We were her Pinocchio on a string.

I wanted out of that swamp.

I was waiting for a swamp reference.

Insanely weird,

review for a rave that's Shrek themed.

I found that.

So that means I went to, we went back to the subreddit here.

This guy goes,

I've been giving up so many opportunities to see bangers because the level of negative energy wafting off the stages is gruesome.

LS Dream sold his soul.

His latest songs, very materialistic.

Excision is big on demonic visuals, and the lyrics are getting creepy from so many artists.

Not sure if it's always been this way, or if it's only that I want to protect my energy better now that I'm becoming aware of it.

People put themselves in vulnerable states by doing drugs and psyches, then stare at an altar projecting images of demons and monsters.

I'm sharing this because

I want us dubstep loving goons to stay loving.

Remember Plur?

So this guy is very weird.

He gets a reply and goes, I was wondering when the next time one of these posts would come up.

Calm down, drink some water, touch grass, then reconnect with reality.

It's just visuals on a screen.

Loud and more edgy music has more intense visuals.

If you genuinely believe LS Dream and Excision are spreading the message of Satan and harvesting energy, I don't know what to tell you because to me, it sounds like drug-induced psychosis.

But it sounds to me like this person has maybe also become like very religious or something because he goes, just as a word used to downplay the truth, dream big, it's always that deep.

So this guy

needs to like not do a lot of drugs.

I think he did a lot of drugs and then went Christian, which is

the worst kind of Christian.

That's the scariest.

That's might be the scariest type of individual.

Somebody who gets their mind altered by drugs and becomes extremely religious.

That is fucking scary.

They'll look at you in the eyes and they're urgently tell you that they've seen Satan.

Well, like, that's why, that's why they're there.

But

you got to to kind of respect this person because this person believes this is happening and thinks that the souls are, and they're still, they're still showing up, still running.

If I really believe that, I'm probably not going.

I feel like maybe there's like when you're, maybe they're an older person, there's only so many places you can go to take all those drugs and kind of, you know.

Yeah.

I think it does become like a desperate for older guys to be like,

I can't just be doing drugs every day anymore.

You know what I mean?

And is a time that you can go do drugs.

It's perfectly normal.

Because I know, like,

there were times in my life where maybe I was using acid too much.

Like, I spent like a whole summer doing it every single fucking day.

And

you're pushing it.

You almost did too much acid there.

And my mental health.

at the end of that summer was not

way better.

I was not doing well at the end

that's the first time that summer was the first time I went to the emergency room for a panic attack yeah it feels like that is a as somebody who's taken you know hallucinogenic drugs a lot and maybe for like periods of time mushrooms less you know not as serious always LSD for me because I was too broke yeah I feel like oh I just couldn't get LSD it was it mushrooms you could get um but yeah the the it seems like that would be a bad idea.

It would just create a lot of confusion in your brain.

I know.

You confuse your brain a lot about what's real and what's not if you're just under the influence so often.

Dropping the acid at 10 p.m.

every night because you didn't get off work until 10.

So you would do it and stay up all night.

All night, yeah.

That's when I was like the nightmare neighbor because like me and all my friends worked until like 10 o'clock.

So we'd all come back to my apartment and fucking party every single night night.

and

every single night yeah

they say the best thing for fighting psychosis is not sleeping yeah oh yeah that's the that's the thing it really so how much sleep when would you go to sleep like how long would you sleep for i would sleep probably from like eight o'clock in the morning to like 2 p.m

So probably more than you sleep now, but I was on a ton of drugs all the time.

You know what I mean?

So like it was a different kind of sleep.

When I moved out of that place, it was so trashed.

I had, I've told this probably on Street Fight at least.

I, I, one night was like, I need to go to sleep

and I needed to block the sun out of my bedroom.

So I went and got a pizza box and I unfolded it and I taped it.

You've told me this.

Yeah, I taped it on the window.

It didn't cover the whole window.

It just was like right in the middle of the window.

It didn't change anything about the light in the room.

So I fucking ripped the drawer door off the closet and leaned it up against the fucking window.

And like, it was just like that forever.

That's the room I slept in where I was filling Mountain Dew bottles with cigarette butts when I was done smoking.

And it was just like a hellhole.

I was not doing well that summer.

So like, I think I had one bad trip though and was like, I can't do this anymore.

And I stopped.

And then I started doing it again a few years later, doing it a lot.

And then, you know, once Katie got pregnant, I was like, I don't think I can do LSD anymore.

But now I'm thinking I might do it.

When was the last time you did it?

It would have been before Katie even got pregnant.

So over 20 years.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

I think it would be fine to do now.

I just am kind of gun shy on that kind of stuff these days.

But I do want to do it because, you know, the ketamine thing really helped my anxiety.

And I've I've had mushrooms that really help my anxiety so like when you have one of those big breakthrough trips

it can sometimes help your anxiety well yeah it sometimes can I think maybe sometimes I've also heard stories of where LSD can not be helpful in that regard at all.

It can actually be actually the opposite of helpful.

But hey, I mean, I agree.

Mushrooms, like I'll micro, I'm going to take 200 milligrams of mushrooms when I go to the White Cups game tonight.

And I do find, I've said that before, is like, that is the drug where it has made me feel better.

That is the only drug I've ever taken where it has made me feel like this connection to people around me and my community and like where I have been done with it.

And I've been like, I feel better.

And I feel like that actually was helpful to me.

It's the only, only drug.

Everything else is I've always taken to escape and to whatever work because I've been addicted.

Mushrooms is the only one that's ever been good.

Well, this guy goes, it's going to be okay, fam.

They're just visuals.

And he gets a reply from the OP and goes, hey, it's okay.

Just a little satanic, demonic visuals, just selling ourselves a little bit.

So this guy

is really worried about demons.

He's got Man Cow mode, is what I would call it.

Yeah, he might.

I was going to say, you might have actually started listening to old Man Cow episodes.

Because this sounds like the cow.

This might be Man Cow.

He goes, Do you, this guy goes, do you truly believe that seeing a silly visual is selling your soul even a tiny bit, LMAO?

And he replies and goes, No, of course.

But going to a show is totally different than seeing something on your phone.

So he's saying, like, at the show,

that's where Satan is.

You know what I mean?

Because it's like, it's like a ritual.

You know what I mean?

It's like, it's a little bit more like a satanic ritual.

There's all these people around watching.

So it's a let me tell you, this next guy does not help at all, which is odd on Reddit.

He goes, listen to today's rap music, then get back to me me on dark and demonic crap.

Big tripping on this one, my guy.

Sorry?

I've never heard big tripping either, but he said, big tripping on this.

He's saying he's tripping big on this, but

big tripping on this, my guy, is, yeah, not.

I can already tell somebody starts talking to me like that,

that's somebody that

is not going to be close to me, my friend.

Also saying,

have you listened to today's rap music?

have you listened to the hip-hop lately that they're doing i mean it's just insane the stuff these guys are saying about ladies behind i mean it's just so funny because it's one of those like you're like be a little be a little less racist bro if we're gonna talk about demonic music you're gonna okay sure three six mafia okay sure i don't think you're talking about zex yeah i don't think you're talking about brother lynch hung i don't think that's what you're talking about but like why are you not talking about like cannibal corpse like that metal metal music is kind of metal music is the one that you kind of you know i mean they literally those like those fucking norwegian guys or whatever who are like blowing up churches and one of them was you know their names like pentagram and stuff like that

well here's a guy that replies to him with with some encouraging words when you go into satan's domain you best bring your sword The universe expresses itself in infinite ways, so naturally there will be pleasant and unpleasant experiences.

Life is all about learning and moving through them.

Also, how can you speak on someone else's experience through the lens of your own and determine they sold their soul?

And he gets a reply and goes, Thank you for your words of wisdom, which I feel

they do.

That was the rave promoter using a burner, being like, Actually, you should go to the rave so you can save people.

Yeah, yeah,

bring your sword to Satan.

Is there, I'll ask you that.

Are there Christ?

I looked up Christian raves after i read this stuff and i couldn't find one i found yeah one mention of a person who said i went to a christian rave

because i'm clean i'm sober

and that i never could find any other instances of a christian rave

i think it's because like we talked about you know like there would have to be a sober element to it most likely right because a christian rave they wouldn't have they wouldn't have drug you they wouldn't want drug use but they drink and that's just it's an important part of it yeah i guess drinking i guess drinking but

there's christian raves but christians love raves like you're you're like basic like mega church uh you know modern modern baptist like uh crumble cookie eating individual like they they like they love raves so like christians love raves but i don't know about a christian rave i don't think it's possible this guy goes it's really not that deep but i know what you mean

don't say that to this guy that is dangerous to be like i know what you mean he goes some people don't care some enjoy it some especially those who are religious might not like it i personally don't mind what i'm just trying to have a good time with good vibes i would rather see happy visuals with positive lyrics rather than demonic shit if you know what i mean he gets a reply this is what that's fair though this is where

this guy goes off the rails It can always go deeper.

I was annoyed by how prevalent it is, and I can't seem to find any heavy dubstep shows that don't promote it.

I just want to headbang and mingle with Mollyheads and not feel like they are trying to harvest my energy.

And for some reason,

he does T-H-E-Y, like, like with the dots between them.

I'm not 100% sure what that is, but it makes me uncomfortable.

Yeah.

I went to dubstep shows.

That's one that I used to go to dubstep shows when I was younger.

Definitely.

And I guess

not Skrill X, you know, just like local stuff in Vancouver and like drum and bass shows.

I would go to DMB shows as well.

And I do feel like that type of music, you know, is like a little, it's a little less like just good vibes type music, you know?

It's like aggressive.

I would, I could, yeah, and I could see that like having those types of visuals and stuff and that, but I do understand that person saying, if you're at a rave that says a happy plur place and they're like showing demon faces and like just dark imagery while you're high on drugs.

It's like, this isn't actually the way I want to trip.

Like, I don't want to actually that I can understand.

Like, not saying that, like, it's, it's actually demonic and it's doing this stuff, but like, hey, it's just kind of a bad fucking vibe at this type of thing.

But I think that the sound, like, especially, listen, I don't know what excision means at all.

I don't know the artist or anything like that, but I would say

if I was invited to go see a thing called Excision,

I think I would immediately think, like, this is death metal, is what I would think.

Yeah, excision doesn't sound like it doesn't sound like a happy name.

Well, this guy goes, quit being soft.

It's not that big a deal.

It comes with the territory of listening to this type of music.

The artists aren't there to cater to the people tripping on drugs.

That's your responsibility.

Wait, wait, wait, what?

That last part?

What?

No idea.

The artists are not there to cater to the people tripping on drugs.

Now, this is news to me.

Because aren't they not?

Are they not?

Are they not?

Kind of?

this is what i do i i guess like maybe yeah like you said we don't know this music that they're talking about excision and stuff like that i guess it's maybe not like happy music so it's you should if you should expect it then yeah if you should if you know who it's going to be and their vibe and then you're complaining about it that's up that's stupid this is the final comment we'll read and it's from the op and he goes see what i see what you're saying but it's quite the opposite if i was soft i'd say it's fine i've had some wonderful life changes over the last few years that have led me to living a positive productive life.

I freaking love heavy shows, and I want to go to have fun, dance, and maybe make some short-term friends.

I don't want to go in with spiritual armor to protect myself from getting programmed, then have to detox in case I carried out anything nasty.

Okay, so, yeah, no, this person's fucking

a real loony.

Here, let's do a quora.

Why does listening to techno music make me feel so good?

Music touches the soul the difference between electronic music techno and vocal based music rock rack pop love rop rap rap rock rap pop and for some reason love

you know love music you know love music romantic music like i want to lay you down sweet honey yeah i only listen to heavy metal when i'm

yeah we know you jackhammer oh man you got it you gotta check out i need to lay you down sweet honey it's

it's a fucking love bop.

It's so good.

Honestly, it's like, and you can hum it as well.

Brian likes it.

Brian likes his big movie.

I only got the one song.

His big mood.

Perfect song.

It's the hummalingus.

He likes the hummalingus, you know,

where he gets humming on that sucker.

And what is the song again?

Deftone?

It's deftones root, which starts out by going, hmm.

See, it's gross when I do it.

Because it's what I do on the show.

So I feel like I'm kind of doing it.

You know, you kind of...

Pro tip, try My Name is Mud by Primus next time.

It gets him going crazy.

Oh, Tony.

Tony, you're a hummer?

Everybody is.

That's my song.

My song is My Name is Mud by Primus.

Wow.

Everybody hums, dude.

That's the fucking way to be good at Cunnalingus.

Yeah.

Surprised you don't know that.

Buddy, some of us don't need that hum.

You know what I'm saying?

I don't do that, though.

I just don't even do that because that's kind of gay.

some of us don't

even need to do cunnelingus because they can get a girl going with just you know their penis.

I'm learning a lot about penises.

Wait a second.

Wait a second.

That doesn't track at all.

So

you're saying that you don't have to give her cunnelingus because you just go straight to having sex.

And I'm good at it.

Yeah, but it's a different thing.

Right.

You don't understand that?

Well, you know.

I mean,

we all make love our own ways.

True.

True.

He goes,

the vocal-bass music is that it doesn't force any thoughts into your head.

It enables you to create your own emotions.

This is the beauty of electronic music.

And the reason I say that electronic music is the modern day classical music.

They put in parentheses sympathy.

And I think he meant symphony.

Symphony.

Sympathy.

He goes, I started listening to electronic music in 1996 when I was in the fifth grade and have since listened to it exclusively.

I fucking love it.

And all the

different emotions it creates within me.

He hasn't even heard any of the other music types since then?

I guess

he's never even given a chance.

I say I tend to like a certain type of music.

Maybe ambient ambient music right now is what I listen to the most, but I'll definitely listen to other stuff.

Let's read this last one from this lady who's furious, and I just want to read it.

I forgot I had it.

He goes, what are raves?

And this person goes, this one may be a good one.

Good one to do it.

Let's start with.

No, because it's psychotic.

It's very long.

Because raves arrived with the invention of heavy dub hip-hop music.

They were basically an event or big party that played only that music.

So you ended up in a trance because of the reputation of the repetition of the same heavy beat.

It was also when we discovered ecstasy.

So a club would put on a rave or actually just a someone in a venue.

You would not be notified of the venue until about an hour before it started.

The internet had been invented by then.

Raves at the time got busted a fair few times for illegal ecstasy use.

We had our share of how to handle ecstasy at a rave.

We danced in a trance and were in love with everyone around us.

But we all forgot how much sweat we lost and we were encouraged to drink all the time.

Not alcohol, plain water.

If you ever see someone swooping their hands at their chest to head height, including your grandmother, those people have been to a rave.

We danced like that back then, late 80s, early 90s.

You young people make me laugh because you think boomers and Gen X are dumb.

No, we're not.

We're ultra cool.

We invented the internet, social media, gaming, smartphones, Dolby Stereo, and portable music.

Go tell a group of young kids, like, oh, you don't think I'm cool?

Well, we invented Dolby Stereo and just see how they all start fucking high-fiving your ass.

Dolby Stereo is a crazy one.

That guy, he goes, without our generations, you guys would have nothing to play with.

Hubby laughed his head off in the building supply store.

A conversation with the young fella that checked out his purchases purchases when something like young fella i do some extra work for cash and you go hubby that's good you don't pay tax on it and the young fella was like you know oh you know about that omg hilarious boomers and gen x used to wait what wait what

that's a that's not a story that's hilarious i also know about the gig economy like what yeah what do

What do you mean?

Like, what do you, like, the kid was stupid because they didn't, they thought they didn't know about the not like not taxing stuff?

it's yeah oh it's a really bad like it's a really bad example it's like it's really confusing it's actually like um yeah it's like crazy to put that in the middle of this thing it's not going into all the innovations you're talking about like at all my husband what is racked up at the building supply store

yeah like what why are we telling that story i'm really confused about why because the kid did okay sorry oh gee hilarious boomers and gen x used to do that so it's funny that you young people accuse us of being stiff and boring.

We did what you were doing now 50 years ago.

Yeah, so did every fucking generation ever.

And then they got old and fucking lame like we all do.

This is how life works.

So of course we know you don't pay tax on cash money.

That's why we always offer to pay our plumber, electrician, workmen in cash.

If they choose not to declare it, they won't pay tax.

Our generation work like that all the time.

So it's funny to think we don't know about everything you guys guys are doing today.

Your grandma.

But they don't, but we don't, but we don't.

That's only one example, the tax thing.

There's a lot of shit.

I got no fucking clue what your kids are up to.

15-year-old kids.

They're talking about shit.

I got no fucking clue.

I'm not.

I feel like this happened like today, and

they're really upset about it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's why this, because this makes this

like a parking lot post or something.

Your grandma was one of the first girls ever to wear a mini skirt.

We boomers in Gen X invented them in the 1960s and we reinvented platform shoes and boot cut jeans so there's probably something in your wardrobe now that it is a version of what we invented then we wore

cyclical fashion wow what an amazing concept you old idiot we wore mini skirts and cut off tops to raves but not in the street Rock chicks were the first ones to wear leather pants and skirts and fishtail stockings with shorts.

So you guys are now wearing our club gear as normal dressing.

That's funny.

They just asked what a rave is.

What do you do?

To know

what it is, you need to know where a rave came from.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

This is like the or this is like you asked somebody a story, and they're like, Well, let me take you back to the day I was born.

Well, now we get there, they get back to raves.

I only went to a few raves because hip-hop is not my favorite music.

I'm a rock chick.

Whoa, wait, wait, wait.

What does that have to do?

Interesting.

I'm a rock chick, but the ones I went to, I remember having a great time and being totally out of my box.

The memories of Gen X, two upvotes.

Worth it.

One of them is a self-up vote.

Yeah, yeah.

It's like when I accidentally

accidentally posted the crying laughing emoji on Tom and Buddy's fucking TikTok

three times in a row, Chris.

It's Brian Quinnby, three laughing emojis, Brian Quinnby, three laughing emojis, Brian Quinnby.

Why did you do that?

I don't fucking know how.

Did you delete it?

Nope.

So it's on there still on which posed?

I don't know.

It's the Jeep one.

See, you can delete it even because then I assume you messed up, so he deleted the two extra ones.

Now you have to be crazy.

I don't know how.

Davies, I think we're getting near the end of this.

Yeah, we're about done.

Tony, you're launching some new stuff.

Tell people what's up.

Yes.

So after eight long years of Mayion Death Cult,

we had so much fun, but

we had to reach an end and we decided I needed to start something new.

So last week I launched Word is Bond TV,

the podcast.

It's fun.

It's just what I'm calling it is

an in-depth analysis of the zeitgeist through the lens of haters.

I'm kind of having a bunch of different guests on people who are haters.

So, of course, we're going to have to get both of you on very soon.

I'm going to get Brian on authentic haters.

I'm not a hater, so I won't beat you.

You're a certified hater.

Brian is a big-time hater.

He's always hating on my ass.

You should have him on.

You should have him on for the main big-time hundredth episode.

He's the number one hater.

No, no, I'm going to need to win

that.

Yes,

I'm going to do it.

You can find everywhere, WordsBond TV.

That's my username everywhere, too.

I decided to just roll with that.

Yeah, but available, episodes are available right now.

Got a little Patreon running, a little cool stuff going on over there.

Where is Bontv.com?

Check it out.

Tony is the best.

Check it out because, yeah, obviously you guys know Tony.

He's on the show regularly on bonus episodes and stuff as well.

And yeah, he's sort of like part of like our family in a way of like the same podcast and stuff.

So yeah, go check out his stuff and support Tony.

And just wait for that episode with Brian.

I can't even imagine.

It's like, it's going to almost be hard for the other haters to come on because it's going to to be like, these guys don't even seem like haters compared to this other guy because this guy is the biggest hater.

I don't hate anything.

And yeah, just before you, before we go, Gen X invented haters.

They were telling this to my wife at Home Depot.

Oh, you ever heard of Bill Maher?

Bill Maher, the first hater?

Bill Maher is going to be on in a couple weeks.

So definitely check out the show.

I can get it.

I think Bill Maher is the guy.

Bill Maher is the guy who I...

Sorry, I actually am the one who has to go as well.

But Bill Maher, I used to, before I realized AI is going to destroy everything, I was using AI fake voices.

And the one that I got absolutely perfect was Bill Maher, like perfect.

And with all of everything, like, and so I convinced Dennis Prager, rest in peace.

He fell in the shower and died.

But

I convinced, I got on the air as Bill Maher, like got through like call screener, fucking producer, and got onto the air with Dennis Prager.

One of my real shiny moments for sure.

It's very funny.

We'll see you all next week with Penis Guys with Mike Hale.

Bye.

Peace.

Bye.