2024 Ep 274 - ConCon admin goes off course

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Ahoy to me hunting, Hamish.

If Jack's Will and you're good,

then Mike has checked out for this one.

No.

Ahoy to my returning Jack.

Ahoy.

Hunting and returning.

Are we just tribe members?

Well, a tribe member would use one of these, particularly indigenous.

Oh, they're types of boomerangs.

He's got it.

Oh, well done.

Types of boomerangs.

Not all boomerangs return.

No.

The hunting ones can deliver extreme blows at a range of at least 80 meters.

Yeah, they'll turn

off their necks.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Well, you got to eat.

Star-shaped was was the third of the boomerang shapes, a little bit of a cross.

Does star-shaped come back or not?

Yeah, I think that one can come back.

And then, are they the ones, because nowadays you get, you know, they're made of like

high-quality plastic and nylon and, you know, fluoro colours and you take them to the park.

And

the...

I don't know if other people have had the same experience when you go to the park with a young kid to show them the boomerang, but the sell is often a lot more exciting than the reality.

It takes a bit of skill to get it going.

It's so hard to catch a returning boomerang.

They don't come back.

Yeah.

I mean, very rarely are they coming back to your hand.

No.

You have about five shots and then you go.

Anyway, well, the idea is you get it going and it does come back.

You can see it start to arc.

Did we all see that before it just died out on the footy oval?

Yeah.

Well, you know, you get better at it and it does that.

Ahoy also to Damon in South Sydney, who used the very easy-to-use system.

HamishNi.com tells what he's been up to.

Ahoy, boys, it's Damon from south of Sydney.

Just driving home through one of my local towns, and I notice that there's a new store open with a queue miles long.

As I'm driving past, I go, Is that no, surely not.

An Acai Bowl franchise has opened up and it is going crazy.

The Oracle, number six, strikes again.

Had a look on their website, they're looking for franchises.

Maybe we do the People's Acai Bowl, hey?

Anyway, let's have a good one.

Cheers.

People's shops, not a bad idea.

Yeah,

it does feel like a Peter out immediately, but...

Yeah, let's do the People's A Cybol shop.

Staffing napkins.

Oh, everybody is too hard.

And then just getting everyone registered.

So suddenly we've got, you know, 500,000 people that want a part share in an Ayeball franchise, and we have to send out their

six cents.

Fastest Peter out we've ever had.

But Jack, on that,

you did select the trend, and I know that that's what we asked of you to do, didn't we?

And it was up to us to figure out how to invest in it.

And

we never really got how to invest in Asais.

Because buying a franchise isn't investing in it.

That's just making someone further up the chain richer.

We need in at the top somehow and we just couldn't get it happening.

Yeah, and it seemed like huge conglomerates already own a lot of that Asai stuff.

Does it heater out?

Will it fade away though?

Like it's a side ball.

Or does this keep peaking forever?

I forgot to tell you guys, I got an email from somebody and he said, I know a lot about Asai, like hit me up if you need to know more.

And I just let it linger.

Sorry for this.

This is why we do a podcast and we don't run a venture capital fund.

Damn it.

I actually got an email from this guy called Elon and he was like, I'm going to do this electric car company.

It was ages ago.

And he, damn it, I should have replied to him.

I'll fish that up for next week.

No, you won't.

Hey, you want to the top of the show?

And

I'd love to kick things.

We haven't done this for a while, and I was like, why don't we just do it at the top of the show?

Let's

we usually upset you later in the show.

Oh, yeah.

But let's, if we upset you early, that's what

I'm going to do.

Yeah, take your medicine.

No, but that's not the way it works.

Normally, if you're with your partner and you're on holidays, you're like, gosh, I won't tell him now because we've got windsurfing to do.

No, no, no.

Let's do the fight on day one.

Do it at the airport while we weren't having fun anyway.

Okay.

Everything is neat and practical

because that's the way he likes it but what if it wasn't upset andy i've actually got a couple of personal ones to kick off with andy

for our wedding which is now some years ago 11 12 years ago we actually received three of the same or similar kind of cutlery sets okay we've never wanted for cutlery again for the rest of our lives it's it was it's like a quite fancy handled and did you

pull them all out at once or yeah you you would have kept them, but I just went, you know what?

Why would we, what are we saving it for?

Like, there's about 20 of each knife and fork.

Let's just eat, let's just use them for our life because, like, what if you go and get like hair color?

It's like, we'll never, ever pull the good color out.

Yes.

So let's just get them in the drawer.

The thing is, the knife is essentially a steak knife.

And it occurred to me every morning I sort of have peanut butter toast.

Usually I have peanut butter toast.

Does buttering peanut butter toast with a steak knife?

Yeah,

that actually does annoy me where i've got i've got my but why it's a blade it delivers anything it delivers the peanut butter anything with a little serration or a little ridge i i don't use for the butter or not because i just don't even like seeing the the the scrape the corrugated iron

butter so this this is actually a good one hand because i was like as i was doing the butter knives down the beach house that i go to i go to i'm like ah great we're buttering some bread here i'm going for this knife so you don't like even any indent most butter knives at least have a tiny few teeth yes some butter knives you'll have like tiny little serrations on them not a true one okay

so you just want a flat plank of metal

a smooth with a curve to it with a curve to it and I'd like it to obviously be beveled into a sharper edge at one side think about this when I dig it into the peanut butter because it's crunchy and it's like quite stiff peanut butter it's coming up in all kind of weird shapes I'm cutting the peanut butter out jagging it on.

That doesn't suit me.

That's a real man's toast.

So

here's the other one.

Although, like, so, you know, I'm Fast and Loose, and you're a bit of a systems guy, right?

It's becoming apparent to me as my son grows up, he's also a bit of a systems guy.

So we've got this funny world where

I'm raising.

Fast and Lucy is raising a systems guy, like a wolf.

raising a human baby in the jungle.

And the human baby does have to do a few wolf things to get a bit better at wolf culture.

But also the wolf learns a bit from the human.

Absolutely.

And so I'm, you know, I see the world through his eyes.

He pointed out one the other day that I was like, I wouldn't see this in a million years, honey.

In the back of buses, I'm sure everywhere, but in New South Wales, it's got the 40 sign.

So it's like, you know, go slow around a bus.

Then on one side of the 40 sign, it goes,

it says when lights, and then on

the other side, it says flashing.

Yep.

Yep.

right now there's obviously different amounts of letters in the phrase when lights and flashing

and flashing's shorter than when lights yeah so it's uneven okay so sonny goes why did they do that why did they make it uneven on both sides of the sign and i go well i guess if they cut it exactly in half it'd be like when leg

yes flashing you know wouldn't people wouldn't be able to read it he goes no but you put it above you put it above and make it evenly spaced and then you just have the 40 underneath

You've got it.

This human, he sees things that the wolves don't.

And that's

yeah.

I mean, I might, I'm probably, as he grows up, I might have to come to you to go.

Yep.

You know, suddenly he was mumbling something about why can't we just have a flat knife in the house?

Do you know what that would be about?

But we do have a lot of other fast and loose people to upset Annie.

And in another move that brings me great joy, I couldn't be bothered getting my screen working on last time.

I can't even see who we've got, which already upsets Andy.

Jess, ahoy to you.

Here we go.

Thanks.

Ahoy, Jess.

Hey, guys.

So I have one that might simultaneously please and upset Andy.

Oh,

feels weird.

I like Andy.

I love efficiency.

And you know, when you go to the petrol pump, it always takes a while for it to actually start coming out.

Yep.

Yeah.

But as soon as I reach the pump, I just start squeezing.

And I take off the cap with my other hand.

Oh, so you're already, it's already active.

Yeah.

By the time it's open, the petrol will be flowing.

Sometimes the petrol will go all over my car, but the rain eventually

it'll get washed off.

You know, I reckon.

Hey, Jesso, I'm with you here.

I love the idea of that time saver because this is a fast and loose boy.

You got no time to wait for the pump to start flowing.

I also talked to you about the thing that I do with the toilet, where I will be weeing in the toilet and I will start the flush early, hoping to time

why

you don't like hang around for the flush.

I don't know if anyone else does this, but I'm like, if I start the flush early, then I can finish and focus on.

I think it's because I'm like, once I'm packing up

and I'm done, I don't then have to like go over, I don't have to move my hand over to the top of the toilet.

So I kind of get two things done at once i'm pressing the button whilst i'm still going to do that towards the end

do that yeah but but i but but it's while it's still going that that's the time-saving bit i don't split it into two different jobs yes i quite like yours i'm gonna try and i think i'll be conservative because again the idea of having petrol on the ground doesn't excite me and we shouldn't probably encourage that either to anybody

having petrol fights like zoolander but

i always thought it was that you're waiting for inside to press the button don't i don't think it's always them turning it on i think it's just a lag in the in the system in the system

it must be a lag they'd get so over that thanks yes uh callum ahoy boys top of the gusto oh uh top of the gusto

top of the gusto meter to you callum um what have you got to upset andy yeah it's pretty spicy so um my housemate when i was at uni used to buy you know blocks of the cadbury chocolate and He wouldn't break a piece off when he'd eat it.

He'd just like bite straight into it.

And just almost left the room.

yeah

or to add to that his like favorite one you know the snack ones where it's all the different flavors yeah it's got like that gooey fondant in it so yeah he'd bite into that so you don't get a little bit of caramel little bit of strawberry

just bursting out everywhere yeah no that's yeah that's that's you know that's red's red hot for me that's that's like the mozzarella's stringing so it's you know going all over his hand and his chin and yeah

yeah mate that is just such a full-on way to eat chocolate though to eat it like it's a burger.

Like it's chocolate is a, we can all acknowledge, like, you know, even if you're scared of chocolate, like some of us, and the edges, it's still, it's a nibbling medium.

Yeah.

Or at least it, it's

a considered bite.

Field.

Like if you feel considered bite.

Yeah, it's a considered bite.

Thanks, Cal.

Larry, ahoy to you.

Ahoy, Hamish and Andrew.

Oh,

thank you for using my formal name.

Larry,

good wrong foot, though.

What have you got, Larry?

My upset Andy is that I never close the sunglasses compartment in my car so that I've always got easy access.

Awesome.

Yeah.

That's awesome.

That's such a good one.

Because

why close it?

You're just going to open it again.

You're just creating more work for yourself down the track.

Yeah, I fully agree, Larry.

I mean, I've never used it either, I must admit.

You don't use the sunglasses compartment.

No.

That must upset you.

Well, you've got a specific compartment you're not using.

Yeah,

I do.

It doesn't come back in the case and it doesn't fit in the compartment.

He would.

He would.

He absolutely would.

And he would have that little wipe that you use to do the lenses as well.

And do you?

Do you keep the wipe?

Yeah, of course.

Unbelievable.

You don't just use a jumper.

No.

I'm not wearing a microcloth jumper, am I?

Do you fold the wipe?

Yeah.

Serial killer.

The only time you ever use the wipe is day one of getting the sunglasses.

Day one, and they're not dirty enough.

Why?

I use the wipe regularly.

You never keep the sunglasses.

Beck used the wipe because the sunglasses are in my glove compartment.

So she'll get them when she when she gets them out for me off I'm driving.

She often then goes, Oh, I'll give them a little wipe.

Oh my god.

Jake, yes, that counts, Larry.

Jacob, wrap this up.

All the way from New Zealand.

Ahoy to you.

So, you know, the light of those the two front seats in the car?

Yeah, yeah.

So I would turn it on, and then I get out of the car and I forget to switch it off.

Yeah.

So it would drain the battery and come out flat battery in the morning.

So instead of just making sure that I've turned it off, I just got the back end of a screwdriver and smashed the light.

Problemo Sol.

Brilliant.

What do you do, Jacob, when you need light?

Nothing really, just in darkness.

But also, when, let's be honest, what model car is this, Jacob?

It's not like a car like Jack's.

It's a master too.

Oh, yeah.

The light being distributed by that thing is the weakest light of all time.

Like, if it's even the thinnest sliver of moon outside, you don't need that light.

So, I think great move.

Rather than sit through the annoyance of the flat battery, teach it a lesson.

And it will be a lesson that we'll never forget.

Wow.

Yep.

Not my approach, Jacob.

I appreciate it.

thanks baby

instead of using the little cloth I just smashed the glass

smash the glass out

ando I just want to bring up something that's literally immediately just come to hand okay because we sit in here with our like you know laptops and stuff and mucking around I just looked at an email and and it is to both of us and it contains information that will possibly slightly incriminate me i thought i'll get ahead of this and heck since we're in here doing it, might as well just do it on the podcast.

Who's it from?

It's from someone at a company called Meter.

Yes.

Who make meat thermometers

that you gave to me as a Christmas present last year?

Like, this is going to be great.

They go inside.

Like, if you're cooking steaks or lamb or whatever, it links to an app.

And I have really,

I've enjoyed it.

Jacko, I mean, and you're not going to get one for this, but I just say

his ears have freaked right up and his eyes have lit up.

No, I've got an old school meme thermometer that doesn't go to Wi-Fi, but it does the job.

No,

this is like amazing.

And it's my go-to gift.

You know when you find something, you're like, no one has this.

A couple of things to check off here, right?

So

I will now admit, because it's contained in the email, so you're going to find out anyway.

I lost it.

Right?

But I was like, no big deal.

Yeah.

I've missed it.

I actually do have one of the old meme thermometers.

I've been trying for a while and I just cracked it yesterday and I was like, you know what?

I'm just guessing here.

Like, I got to go back to my digital ways.

Jack, just to give you a perspective, again, this is going to sound like an information.

I don't have to mention the product by name again, but

you say you're in charge of the Barbie ride.

Yeah.

And you put, like, say you put it in a big thing of steak.

You put the thermometer in.

It links to your phone and your watch.

You can go for a wander.

It just goes, yeah, it's good.

It just goes, take it out now.

Yeah.

And then let it cook in its own juices for a while.

It goes, take it out now, rest, then it counts down.

it also tells you how long you've got to go it measures that's good and so beck will go when am i putting on the cell i'm like 12 minutes you know it's yeah yeah okay

so i go

and to be honest and again like we're not trying to do an ad here and this is maybe where it doesn't sound like an ad because i was like i was like i'll just get another one and i was like you know what

you know they can't be in my mind i was like i actually got andy a really good christmas present and i was like it it's you its usefulness has been terrific so i was like that in my mind scrubs out the money indifferent, the money difference.

A really good Christmas.

So I was like, that's fine.

Actually, it's something I've used all the time.

Anyway, I go to the website, not as cheap as I thought because I thought it was going to be like 40 bucks or something.

And it's

some hundreds.

So I was like, wow, okay.

Regret losing it now more than I previously did, but they are pretty small and it's the kind of thing you'd keep track of.

But in my kitchen,

my kitchen's like, you know,

there's like colored pencils in with rolling pins.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So no chance.

Anyway, so I put my order in YSA.

I bought another one.

I don't know.

Obviously, you're a good customer.

First of all, did you buy mine?

Yeah.

Okay, great.

Because I was like, maybe Andy's been sent these for free.

Because now the person from the marketing department of the thermometer company has sent you and me an email.

She goes, hi, guys.

Sorry for the random email.

Just noticed Hamish placed an order yesterday.

Thanks for that.

And I was like, oh, no, she's dopping on me to Andy because

I don't want you to know that I was replacing your present, especially after I found out it wasn't as cheap as I thought it was.

So, anyway, you found out that I'm buying, I've had to buy a new one because I lost it.

But then she's gone, I've got you covered.

As in a bit of like, hey, don't worry about it.

And she's going to send you one too.

Does that mean you get a refund?

I guess it does.

Oh, very nice.

Well,

well, weaseled.

Yes.

What do you think?

I'm jealous.

Appreciate the honesty.

Jack.

Anything you would like to say?

And the window is open.

I would.

You did say you were fine with the old school way.

Yeah, it is, but like, I do like Andy's little hypothetical of walking around the backyard and like it buzzes you watch to tell you you go back there.

So I would be open to getting one as well.

But we're all weaseling now, so what can you really do?

Yeah, now it's a, it's.

Actually, wait, just calculating there's there's probably one more in the system than we need.

If Andy's already got one and she's sending you and Andy one,

there seems to be one floating.

Uh-oh, Wrinkle Masters here.

Jack Van Winkle.

Jack Van Winkle.

We can't throw stones because we're all.

I think, but we've, Andy and I have both acted with honor.

Like he bought one, I bought one.

Yeah.

And then they've come and had to buy something.

I didn't even know it existed.

I think you have to show intent to buy.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And

I would buy now that I've heard about it.

I'm very interested in it.

I will go and buy.

Before I do, though, if there is one floating around.

How about this?

How about this?

How about this for an interesting

buy Andy's?

No.

Well, that's interesting.

How about this?

It's interesting.

Hey, you clearly just went and bought one.

I did.

And they discovered it.

Yeah.

And then they gave you the refund.

That's true.

And this won't go out for a few days.

Will Jack just go and buy one?

Yeah, buy one.

Too risky.

Too cheap.

just said you were happy to buy a lesser known name, lesser known name.

So there's less chance they'll pick it up and do they send the email saying, I'm looking after you.

Lesser known.

But you said you were happy to buy.

Yeah, but if there's a, there's, there seems to be one more in the system.

You're really, yeah, you're helping him out with inventory.

So where do we get to, though?

Ando,

this list continues to grow.

Just when you think, okay, I think we've covered everything in the extreme empath world.

I personally feel like on my side of the fans, I continue to be shocked and heartwarmed by the level that people are willing to go to to care and feel deeply about things that are.

I was going to say, you know, essentially inanimate, but absolutely inanimate.

Like absolutely not alive.

Have you found that we're that people are so grateful that they've found a place to come out and say these things?

Totally.

And they've

found a careful place.

It's a lot of care.

It's a lot of care to carry around.

Like a huge amount of care and worry, really.

A lot of it's due to worry.

Like they're worried that, you know, socks are sad or whatever it is.

So it's a, it's a place to share with other people, okay, this is a worry that I've been carrying around.

And it is a safe space, but it's time to do another batch of extreme empaths.

And

the opener that we have, if you've not heard it before, is usually we like to do a little funny song.

But we thought, oh, what if all the other songs feel sad because they didn't get picked to be in the opener?

So now here is a small sample of every song in the world played at once.

Very soothing.

Nice.

Mitch Hawkins.

Okay, go, go.

Kicks it off.

Extreme empath here.

When my girlfriend, he's the extreme empath.

When my girlfriend and I are watching TV, I will always wait until no one in the show or movie is talking before I pause.

I don't want to be rude or cut anyone off.

My girlfriend, however, will get up and leave the room while a person, character, is still talking.

And sometimes I catch myselves apologizing to them.

Like it's the theater.

Good.

Okay, great.

We feel you.

This is from Joe.

His wife, Mel, is an extreme empath.

He says, she's got a few habits, but his favorite is when she sacks the dishwasher, when she puts in the cutlery into the bucket thing, she'll arrange them so they all have at least one partner.

So, you know, spoons with spoons, forks with forks.

Furthermore, this is my favorite bit.

The teaspoons are, in her mind, babies and must be placed with a responsible adult spoon.

This means sometimes larger, clean spoons go back in just for the purpose of caretaking the baby spoons.

I also love that it's like, don't leave a teaspoon with a fork.

Doesn't know the fork.

No, exactly.

Stranger.

Stranger danger.

It's like it's a kid with this strange adult.

No, no.

Chug a couple of spoons in there to make sure that it's not freaked out in the dishwasher.

Ben Hearham,

he says, I've been listening to Reason Pod regarding circumstances of empathy for objects and needs to report his girlfriend's empathy for a certain grape.

A certain grape?

She recently told me she accidentally dropped a grape under the fridge.

Having subsequently realised it'd be likely to be under the fridge until the fridge is replaced and not moved for many, many years, she kicked a second grape under there just to ensure.

Oh, it's whoa.

So it's like if only one Beaconsfield miner was trapped.

That's true, isn't it?

I don't think we can get you out, but we're going to send Brandt down, Todd.

So you guys have got some company.

Not a strategy you see very often for people that are trapped.

Oh, tell you what, though, if you're running the cable down, why don't I could just grab onto the cable and be released?

No, we're not confident with that.

Why have we invented a one-way valve for Brandt to have to go through to hang out with Todd?

Yeah, he's got an email he goes from Brant.

He doesn't want to go through it.

Yeah.

Decision's been made.

Oh my god.

Okay, this comes from Fraser.

Fraser, hey boys, number six.

I'm not normally that empathetic.

Um, however, recently I was driving my Subaru and it has an auto brake detection feature.

I was at a set of traffic lights, the car in front of me slammed on the brakes.

I missed it, but the car picked it up and saved me from rear-ending the car in front.

As a reward, I fueled the car up with 98 octanes.

No, she never gets anything more than 91.

Very common man of me.

So it was a big treat.

Heym, this is just growing and growing in excitement.

It's a shame there was only limited tickets, but we should jump into this.

There's a cool new conference no matter your beers.

Come on, come on.

The conference's so nice you can deduct it once at a maximum.

Can't stress it enough.

We've made that very clear.

The ATO have signed off on that new tagline, so that's good.

We are learning as we go.

We've always said correspondence with them has had a jovial feel.

It has a chummy feel, doesn't it?

Chummy and chummy, so chummy.

It's nice.

Chummy and jovial are interchangeable, I feel.

But it's good to be putting on an event, a business development event.

In fact, it's got to the stage, Ando, where now that we're all Suedo burrito with the ATO, it's got to the stage where I go, Do we invite Jim Chalmers as a guest of honor?

His local electorate is in Queensland.

Or do we invite, do we invite the head of the ATO to go, you know what?

Come.

Nothing to hide.

It's wall-to-wall business development and education at the conference we're putting on.

Come on in.

Have a look.

Have a bit.

This is so full.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes, we shall.

This is like

in breaking bad.

Chicken man going, come to the laundry, snoop around.

Obviously, don't look under that.

But apart from that, you know, as you can see, it's just a laundry.

No, well,

I do maintain, I say, hey, come and have a look, have a biscuit.

It's on us.

Because in that analogy, it was just a laundry and not a drug den.

Because we're not doing anything.

We're actually not doing anything, bad.

You're acting like we do have something under one of the driving machines, but we have nothing.

We have nothing except business development and education and biscuits while we're on biscuits you got an update because i actually have an update for biscuit reliability in negotiations with

with a leading brand to provide the ones that you wanted yeah um i see we're not even naming them now because we're gonna we're dangling the carrot of future naming rights

exactly that's exactly what i've just done And look, it's been a little frustrating.

It's a bit protracted.

I thought it'd be simple just to get, just send us a truckload of biscuits.

Would I i be correct in saying we're hoping for the opposite of their name in relation to them sponsoring it we're hoping they are so sponsoring us

yes yes yes so there'll be a countdown to where they should they can actually that's nice we should have them a countdown for where they come out and they're going to go they're going to are not going to participate or they are so gonna participate well so let's That's two weeks.

I'll give them two weeks.

While you're dilly-dallying with backing and forthing, backroom tactics, whatever you're doing on the negotiating side of things, i'm a man of action and i've gone and locked in something on the biscuit front i've green lit our biscuit band

i green litter

with carly i green lit kingston crumb the band the cover band who are named after the after the biscuit yes so they are going to play what i what i've requested to be soft if not acoustic biscuit jams okay good good good during the hour of

the hour because remember the one hour of biscuits is before, is with tea and coffee.

So people are coming in post-registration.

Are we flying them in?

Where are they from?

I thought they were local, and that's why we like them.

Look, at this stage, I've said covering costs.

There may be, and this, I guess suppose, is contingent on how you go with your negotiations, there may be some biscuit payment for them, like

servlet biscuit payment for them, but certainly no money's changing hands.

But we are looking at giving them, I don't know, maybe they get half an hour biscuit access before anyone else, sort of platinum level business biscuit access.

And I imagine all their costs would be deductible for them as a band.

You would imagine so.

Always see.

Go talk to your local accountant.

Talk to the village.

Talk to the village.

See a CPA.

But

the thing I love about that is it now brings

such an excitement.

such an atmosphere to the biscuit.

Yes.

So that's green lit.

Isn't this amazing?

So if you've already bought a ticket to concon you're like oh i'm gonna say value add value add value add i didn't know kingston crumb applying

it's like when you add a cool band to the festival list and you already have your ticket yeah oh that's cool except that's entertainment and that's not what we're providing that's not what we're charging for no no

but festivals charge for entertainment we don't we throw it in for free yes we charge for the business development on that very important for us three to make sure that these people that come will learn something about their business of course that's what makes it a tax deduction we are very clear on that

I obviously have been running a bit of the admin during the week I wanted to lock you guys down explain how many industries we've got that's the thing because if everyone coming they've listed their industry that is the initial promise that's what we're following through on you come you'll hear relevant information to your industry This is, it started with a voice.

I've started WhatsApp.

It started with a voice note, which I'm normally against to you guys, just to to kind of kickstart the chat and the organization for the guest speakers of ConCon.

Hey fellas, Andy here.

I'm just going to be taking my speaker's hat off and putting on my administrator's hat on and I'll send you another message.

Hi Mr.

Blake and Mr.

Post.

It's Andy here.

I'm running the administration for the upcoming ConCon where I believe you're both booked as speakers.

I just want to confirm that you're still available for those dates.

We're very excited.

First up, there is 191 industries at the moment.

So I'll send through 64 to each speaker.

And I think it's best to try and group them down to 25 each.

That gives 75 minutes.

of speaking and allows time for some biscuit eating and Conrad Sewell.

Yes, they'll come through later today.

Start your groupings.

If there's anything for your riders, for your dressing rooms, please let us know.

Thanks, Andy.

I'm very excited to start putting the work in for these ConCon presentations.

I noticed you said though that there were 191 registered industries.

That doesn't really divide equally into three.

By my count, it would be 64 for one person, 64 for another, and 63.

I am happy to put my hand up for 63.

I only ever did two other jobs before getting into radio and podcasting, so I'm happy to take those two industries, if you like.

That would be cinema workers and boundary umpires for junior football.

Oh, hi, Andy.

Thanks so much for getting in contact with me.

I'm really excited to come and enhance the educational and business development content at ConCon.

I think it'd be wonderful for all participants and for the country as a whole.

I'd like to commend you on your use of WhatsApp technology.

I think you'll find it's very, very easy to send audio messages amongst a large group and the transfer is instantaneous.

I haven't listened to any of my co-speaker Jack's feedback, but one thought I did have was if he's talking about being a cinema worker and there is any sort of cash register situation

at the conference near Biscuits or whether it's near merch or extra merch, I would just be wary of placing Jack in a cash handling position.

Can't wait to be there.

Oh, hi, Hamish.

I'm happy to hear that you'll be speaking at ConCon as well.

I look forward to seeing you there.

Just in regards to comments you made about me not being trusted around the handling of cash, I'm not sure what you've heard about my time as a cinema worker, but I was simply pocketing tips that customers would give me when they thought the service was exceptional or above and beyond.

So no more should be said about it, and I'll see you guys soon.

Thank you both for getting back to me.

It's really great that you cleared that up, Jack.

We can obviously put you in charge now of all cash tills.

One final thing, was it your understanding that you're getting your own way there to the Gold Coast, or is is that going to be a company expense on our end?

Great to hear from everyone.

Really excited as the day approaches.

Just wondering if you could help me out with something, Jack.

I rang Hoytz and asked them about their tipping policy and they said

they never had one and

it's actually against the law for any Hoyts employee to accept tips.

Would you be able to tell me who the specific manager was at Hoyts who approved the tipping policy?

Only because cinema workers, tipping etiquette,

theft prevention, cash management, loss management are all topics I'll be covering at ComCon.

So I'd love to get some clarity on that.

Really appreciate your help.

Thanks, mate.

Sorry, AIM, I must have not received your last message.

I think it never went through and don't bother sending it again because my memory's fall on my phone and it won't come through.

Wow, I guess WhatsApp not

really staying on topic there as the weekend progressed and we kept sending voicemails back and forth, really staying on topic.

But yeah, no, I guess WhatsApp is not as good as we thought it was because it seems to be clogged up and Jack's not able to hear them all.

Yeah, so best it is to stick with our system18.com of uploading your audio.

I did love, Jack, your use of the phrase, I I think we should move on.

I felt like you disrespected that in a way by not moving on, which was the request of the group.

Next week, let's come together and decide on the format, how long we'll speak for, but also the groupings.

I mean, I've got mine.

We've all got ours, like the 64s, the 63s.

It's just far, far, far too many.

If you look at those two sessions, obviously 45 minutes break, 45 minutes at ConCon, that's 90 minutes.

You're not going to fit 191 topics in.

We do, as you said, Andrew, we need to clip them.

Could we put them into the third session?

Could go into the third session, which at this stage looks positive, looks like it will happen.

Do need to flag.

It might on the day change.

At this stage, I can't see that happening.

But if unstructured networking happens for the third session, we need to get all the, I think we do all the topics in the first two.

Yeah, just to do that.

And then do a best of in the third session.

Next week, next week.

We'll have our clumps

when you guys travel.

I choose to travel and set.

Sorry, I thought we were at the end of an old game show.

Sorry, I know you were about to say something.

I was actually just talking about that the other day.

Remember the end of Wheel of Fortune and like prices right and stuff?

Yeah, like, you know, when we travel, we choose to stay at, you know, Holiday Inn.

Yeah.

That was just back in the day.

Now you look at stuff on social media where people have to go, hey, this is an ad sponsored collab, you know just in case there's any cloudiness i am being gifted something here back in the day that we choose to fly it was just a lie

we are saying that because they still had the choice for free but they they would give us to fly and face after the exchange of free flight that's how we chose that's how we came about making the change

of money as well as free flight it was a full-time job for voiceover people like that's what i think is it was also you also got um like tony was dressed by Hugo Boss.

Yes, yes.

That ended years ago in TV.

Isn't that like people talk about the devastating things that happens to television, it's dying, etc.

But I feel like just having a guy in the booth telling you things.

Believe it, even credits.

Yes.

Remember that, like, we haven't had credits for decades, but guys, let me tell you this.

When Andy and me were growing up and making our first TV shows, we had credits.

Yeah.

You knew the assistant boom operator was.

And then you knew what we were wearing at the end of it.

You knew that Hugo Boss reluctantly agreed to give 30% off suits to these unknown guys.

True.

No, what I'm asking is when you're traveling,

how much room in your bags is for you?

Oh, mate.

Because I have a situation with Beck

where no matter how many bags she's taking.

She will look at me and go, and what am I putting in your bag?

I'm like, well, no, I've got my bags.

They're my bags.

They're denoted by the fact that they're not overly expensive luggage

that I shouldn't spend money on buying.

And also the fact that they're mine and my things are in it.

But nah.

This is my space.

Yeah.

I mean, it's funny when you have kids, that gets exciting because sometimes they usually take a kid's suitcase and that's both of their clothes.

But I sneak shoes into the kids.

Right.

And I sneak them in first.

Because sneakers are the bulkiest items.

So I'll often go.

If you get your shoes, if you get your shoes right,

you go.

Everything else comes off.

I've often fantasized about taking just an entire like duffel bag of shoes and then the the the luxury you'd have in the rest of the case because it'd just be chucking things around and it'd be glorious anyway i sneak shoes in the kids bag

because zoe packs early yeah i don't zoe's packs like two or three days well a week before an international holiday for the kids just to make sure everything's sorted and i'll go and like sneak okay there's a pair of shoes like sneak them under rudy's stuff but then zoe will find them invariably yeah be like why are the birken Birkenstocks in here?

Oh, right.

Yeah, I just thought I'd get ahead of time.

It's good growing to them.

Make things a little easier on my side of the fence.

Because I know I can always get it in my bag.

It's just whether I can be bothered doing it or not.

But then, but Zoe takes two bags.

Zoe takes two suitcases and I'm just got one.

Bec on the recent trip took three bags and then said, what can I put in your bag?

Full size?

No, two full size, one like bigger carry-on.

Spillover.

And then takes, well, she takes two carry-on.

Like I said.

Two carry-ons.

Yeah, it's crazy.

And then she says, when we're over there, she's like, I, she always goes shopping.

So I'm saying, I said, can you just take,

please just leave some space because it's going to spill into my stuff.

Do what we all do and buy the world's cheapest suitcase in Thailand.

Yeah.

To put all the stuff you bought from the markets in, send it home.

The bag will split.

It will last one.

And you'll never wear any of the stuff you bought from the market.

You don't need eight pairs of fake Eva Suit jeans, but it's fun.

It's fun.

What I did this most recent trip,

I took an empty carry-on

just to avoid the fight.

Good on you.

I just took a full empty bag on a plane.

Gee, it was luxury on the way.

That would have been great.

I got in.

We went overseas, you know, a couple of weeks ago, and we got back a few weeks ago.

I get in trouble because we have a family puppet called Smarty who Zoe does not like because Smarty's

character is a bit, he's a bit risque.

He's a bit risque to Zoe behind the kids' back, like never in front of the kids, but he's not

cancelled.

He'd get cancelled these days.

He's from an era of entertainment.

We're voiceovers for off.

That's no place.

His late night show would have had credits for sure.

For sure.

So Smarty, he's not for everyone.

He's certainly not for Zoe.

She doesn't appreciate the era.

He's character to the kids, though.

He's a fun, loving guy.

He's a little blue puppy.

He's like a Jim Henson puppet we've had for like 10 years.

I've seen Smarty in fact.

So Smarty.

I've seen Smarty being nice to the kids, but I've also seen Smarty's other character.

He's late Nike.

He's Late Nike.

He sneaks away on trips and that's the most trouble.

So this most recent trip, so then if I'm just with the kids for like half a day or something, Zoe's doing something.

Smarty will be in the backpack.

We're taking him around.

He's at the Acropolis.

Like Smarty's in a taxi.

Smarty's eating chips, like having a great time.

Then we show Zoe at the end of the holiday.

Uh-oh, look who came on holidays.

Her first reaction is always like, I can't believe you would sacrifice suitcase space for Smarty,

which, and then he, you know, he'll

say some things back to her,

which we can't, which we can't say.

Which you can't say.

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