Rob Mac asks about changing your mood

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Rob Mac (aka Rob McElhenney) of "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia" and "Welcome to Wrexham" asks Handsome a sole-ful question about changing your mode for the better! Plus BIGGIE'S BACK!, Mae rush-orders invisible makeup, the Indigo Girls answer all your questions, and more!

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Hi, it's your friend Tignotaro, and I'm sitting here with Fortune Feemster and Mae Martin.

Hey, that was tight, guys.

And we're excited to be on the Handsome Pod.

Yes.

I can't believe we're on this pod.

And guess what?

And Biggie's back.

Biggie's back, baby.

You know,

I see dogs that look similar to Biggie out in the world.

And guess what?

And what?

They're never as cute.

Right.

Right, right.

But they are cute.

They They are no doubt cute.

But Biggie

is a different level.

Jeunesse sequential.

A certain jeunes sequence.

And people, I haven't posted about him a lot lately, but I posted something about him like a week or two ago, and they said that his eyes aren't looking dead anymore.

Really?

And where are they getting that information?

And I say, you're right.

They've never been dead to me.

They're full of life.

Listen, I know he's full of life, and I don't mean it as a negative thing.

I have dead eyes.

Wait, do you?

Well, I don't know.

You just did them really well for a second there.

All the life went out of them.

I do have one eye that has started to droop, but I'm not going to spend too much time worrying about it, but I am going to make an appointment to see it after.

No, but

like an eyelid or what?

Yeah, my eyelid is starting to droop.

Some people get their eyelids done.

Get them done.

I haven't even remember gotten my teeth colored.

I haven't done that either.

I should, though, because I drink a lot of coffee.

Yeah, I eat blueberries.

I sleep on one side, and that whole side, I think, is drooping.

And so one of my eyes, when I'm tired, gets a little...

I didn't sleep last night.

I feel very like close to the veil.

I was having big thoughts.

Yeah, I do have a visitor.

My life coach is up here with me at the moment.

You have a life coach.

You have a life coach.

Yes, I do have a life coach.

We didn't even know this.

No, we did not tell Marie everything.

Have I not talked about this?

No.

Oh,

okay.

Yeah, I got a life coach.

For how long have you had a life coach?

Well, I've been friends with them a while, actually, but they're just, I mean,

look, I never like plug people on the show, but if you are someone like me who's kind of scared of therapy and you want a qualified therapist under the guise of a life coach, who's like, it's less pressure.

You're talking about your life.

You can do arts and crafts while you do it.

And then making a pie chart.

I'm going to put a lot of together in Lake Arrowhead.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Is this

what, do we have a gender on this person?

They're non-binary.

Their name's Jen Horak.

at Jen Horak on Instagram, but they are sorting my shit out.

Although last night,

bad life coach behavior, actually, because we were having having deep chats till very late.

Now I'm very tired.

But that sounds like positive, though, a positive reason to stay up late.

100%.

Absolutely.

And what scares you about a therapist?

Good question to thanks for picking up on that.

I've had.

First off, they don't go to Lake Arrowhead, I'll tell you that.

Well, that's true.

I like therapy and have often had therapists, but I don't know, sometimes it's daunting looking directly at someone and knowing we are going to dive into childhood triggers.

There's something nice about a life coach that's like more

practical and proactive about making your life function.

And then, in a roundabout way, being like, so what areas are not functioning and why might that be?

And how can you, you know what I mean?

Sure.

Let me ask you something else.

How does a life coach charge you when they come and sleep in your cabin?

Another good question, Fortune?

Great question.

Thank you.

Thank you.

They're technically off the clock.

This is a friend visit, but they just happen to be my life coach.

So I'm like, yeah, let's hang out on the dock.

But anyway, what do you think I should do about my house?

So when you're like in a session, you're paying, but you're also like, hey, want to come crash an arrowhead at my little cabin and we can talk about it.

We can talk about all of my life problems.

Yeah, I lured them up here with the promise of

a friend.

And how long have you had this person as a life coach um a couple months only but it is really i don't know it's the only type of kind of practice like that that i don't dread like i really look forward to it and my head feels so clear after and yeah have you so you've never you've had therapists but not a life coach i've had a therapist and then um i i've mentioned um

Martha Beck on here.

She wrote that book, The Way of Integrity.

Yeah.

And if people don't remember, it's just a book that encourages you to try and live the most honest and truthful life that you can.

Which, of course, is not exactly the life I'm living, but

I'm trying.

You're in the closet still.

That's a right, right.

But it's nice to have that awareness and kind of reach for that and lean towards that and have it as a North Star if that's of interest.

And

she had mentioned that she does life coach

stuff.

And

I have that in the back of my mind where I'm like, maybe, maybe I'll give Martha a ring-a-ding.

She led me to my sleep coach

who has been very helpful.

I'm still having some struggles, but that I think that's from traveling.

Yeah, that's exactly the kind of thing, though, the Martha Beck stuff of like, how stopping people pleasing or, or yeah,

how am I I gonna have this difficult conversation in a way where I stand my ground, but I'm also listening.

Yeah, I don't know.

I want to be a better person,

you know?

That's good.

Everybody can use to evolve, right?

I mean, yeah.

Yeah, and it's so

interesting to hear the different things that speak to different people, you know, whether it's a therapist or a life coach or meditation or

whatever it is, exercising, hard drinking,

hard drinking, drugs.

I just find it all very fascinating.

Yeah.

And I think it's,

oh, here's my final question.

What,

if you want to share, have you found to be the biggest shift that you've made or started to crack open since this?

Is that a good question?

Thank you.

That's a really good one.

I think actually the truthfulness thing in how it applies to like

overpromising because I want everyone to like me and like, so yeah, trying to, that, trying to,

yeah, have more boundaries up front so that I don't end up in this web of anxiety inducing.

Um,

yeah, because sometimes if you, and I know we've talked about it, but it's like if you can't do something, you don't really have to share details beyond I'm not available, yeah, or that doesn't work for me.

That's a lesson I'm learning lately, too.

I'm finally just going, I can't, yeah, yeah, Yeah.

It used to just be like a paragraph of why.

Right.

I'm like, I actually don't owe that to anyone.

Well, think about when you get that response from somebody.

Do you follow up irritated?

Right.

Of like, why can't you?

No.

If somebody's like, I'm not available or that doesn't work for me, you just go, oh, okay, when it's good.

Yeah.

No, if anything, I get irritated if it's like, yeah, for sure, I'll do that thing.

Oh, I'm washing my sideburns so I can't, you know, but maybe next week.

Oh, no, this, yeah, I will say,

I do feel like I have noticed a more mature version of you in the last, I don't know how many months, but I would say since you went to Arrowhead, yeah, no, longer than that.

But, but I have noticed you not trying to over-promise and then I create a lot of web.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah,

you've created,

We've seen some webs.

Listen, they all are true, but I think

all the webs are true is the title of my autobiography.

All the webs are true, but they could have been avoided.

And I think

a big part of that, though, comes from just I was so busy with the show, like

with making.

I felt like I had like four full-time jobs.

I have more space now and I'm like,

I never want to be that busy again.

It's not fun because it's like, when do you actually live your life?

Yeah.

And you start doing a mediocre job on everything.

Yeah.

Can I just tell you,

we're in New York, and maybe I've shared this on here.

I don't know.

But sometimes when I'm traveling alone, I love to get on the hop on, hop off bus tour.

Oh, I think we have talked about that because my mom also loves that.

I love it so much because I find it so relaxing.

If you're by yourself or with people, you can listen to the headphones and listen to the tour or not and just look around.

So, um, we took Max and Finn on the hop on, hop off tour today.

It was so nice and relaxing.

And I don't remember why I shared that, but go ahead.

I like picturing you on a hop on, hop off bus by yourself.

Yeah, me too.

If you saw me in Dublin, if you saw me in Rome, London, I love them so much.

It is kind of a great way to see a city.

It's totally great.

And then you go, oh, yeah, I want to get back to this and I want to check that out.

I don't really hop on or hop on.

I just hop on and then hop on and that's it.

Yeah.

And then I'll make note.

Hop on and stay on?

I just stay on.

And then if something I notice that I want to go back to, I'll make note and then return.

But I really don't know why I told you that.

I feel like you were going to say something, Fortune.

Oh, I was just on the theme of the life coach thing.

I had, I've never had a a life coach but I do have a have gotten back into therapy

just because there's some things in my life happening what do you mean

it's good I it's on zoom I do zoom now which is kind of I guess since the pandemic that's more of a thing with therapy

so it makes it a lot easier

do you try and look at the room that they're in and figure out clues about them?

No

I don't have Is it weird that I don't have any curiosities about my therapist?

That's all I want to know.

Should I?

I don't know.

I have a lot about mine.

Really?

No, it's healthy that you don't, but I guess

how can you not?

You're not paying attention to that stuff more.

Well, do you know their sexuality?

That's what I always want to know.

I think she's straight.

None of my business.

I think she's straight.

Pretty sure she's making straight.

Oh, yeah.

I do do know for a fact she's straight.

Yeah.

Okay.

Because you asked her.

No.

Because my friend also uses her and told me.

But it's funny that Tig asks a lot of questions because I've people in my friends have joked I don't ask enough questions.

Oh, about your therapist?

Just

knocking on my door, guys.

Like, oh, you go do you.

Come on, knock on my door.

You're saying in general you don't ask people questions?

And

I mean, I ask people questions, but like more specific things.

Like, I'll ask kind of general questions, but then I have friends who are like, well,

did you ask more about that?

And I was like, no,

I just asked the one question

and they answered.

I didn't.

You know what I mean?

So I'm trying to do better about like the follow-up questions.

Right, right, right.

So,

yeah.

Because I get guilty of like thinking, oh, if someone wants me to know something, they'll tell me.

I know.

It is kind of a fine line because I'll come home from certain things and I'll tell Stephanie something that she'll find really juicy or interesting.

And she'll be like, well, did they blah, blah, blah?

And I'm like, I don't know.

I don't want to overstep.

And she's like,

but if they told you that, then they would be.

And I'm like, I don't know.

I'm interested, but I don't want to.

I think we're supposed to ask follow-up questions yeah but it it does reach a tricky point of like do i cross over to that well you can throw out the you don't you don't have to tell me if you don't want to

preface it with that absolutely you're right all right who was at your doorme a ghost It was two men.

One of them had braces.

So it was sort of two boys.

Oh, Mormons.

I don't know what their deal was.

They said, Hello, sir, ma'am.

And then they

said, Hi.

And then they said, I just want to say, I like you.

We love your home.

And I said, Thank you.

I don't, it's not my home.

It's an Airbnb.

And they said, oh, it's Airbnb.

And I said, yeah, sir, I'm just in the middle of something.

Can I help you with something?

And they said, oh, no, that's fine.

If you don't own it, that's fine.

And then they left.

Maybe they were scoping it out to come rob me.

I was about to say, I would never open the door to strangers.

Even if they had braces, it's very non-driven.

That could be part of the luring of, yeah.

Do you know what?

A neighbor of mine was in her house.

No.

This woman rings the doorbell and says,

My dog ran up your driveway into your backyard.

No.

And the woman walked to the back to try and find the dog.

And then

the woman had her gaggle robbing the house.

Oh, no.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Oh, my gosh.

Yeah.

So, did, and just kept her distracted in the backyard?

I've not heard of this.

Oh, and was telling her about how she had cancer and how, just was telling her a sob story.

And then when she went back in her house, she was completely robbed.

What if I see in the newspaper, it's like, warning,

the Brace Boys robbers are in the neighborhood.

I'm telling you, I don't answer my door for nobody.

Really?

You know what's funny is our

doorbell.

doorbell was broken for years.

I don't know if you know this or remember this, Thomas, but we, our doorbell was broken for years.

And I just, I don't have voicemail set up on my phone.

My doorbell was broken.

Like, I'm completely fine to not hear from anyone.

And then we had to get our doorbell fixed for some reason, and I can't remember why.

And then all of a sudden, we regularly heard our doorbell ring.

And I was turned to Stephanie.

I was like, for years.

It just randomly had no idea who was coming to our house.

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Well, maybe these guys were scoping it out, and now they know I'm here alone with my life coach in the woods, and they're gonna come back and get us.

Maybe it's like kids selling solar panels or something.

Yeah, but they also might have been like, Yo, do you see the guns on that, bro?

Oh my god, we're not going back to that house.

Oh, really?

Like, they'd be too scared?

Oh, yeah.

I mean, we've seen your guns.

Let's see them.

They were like, Did you see that sir/slash man's guns?

I've been at the weightlifting gym in Lake Arrowhead.

I found one.

Oh, yeah.

Come on.

Now, May, before Fortune got on, I saw you drinking a green juice.

And

it just really feels like you're getting serious.

You have your life coach.

You're drinking green things.

You're lifting weights.

You're turning away people with braces on their teeth.

I'm doing all the right things.

I'm drinking this disgusting juice, but

I have made, I've slipped, I've like relapsed into urban capitalism.

Like I've been in this very pure spiritual, but I

last night suddenly thought of all these things that I thought I need up here and I ordered, I went nuts on Amazon.

Oh, and now this shit is arriving.

Like some arrive today, it's one day delivery.

Do you want to hear what I've ordered?

Well, not only do we want to hear, but I also really want to spend a moment thinking about all the stuff you have to now take home in your Uber.

Go on.

I don't know how I'm going to get out of here.

Can your life coach take some things back?

You know what?

I might have to send some stuff.

Right?

That's a good idea.

Yeah, that's a really good idea.

Let's hear it.

So, first of all, when I got up here, I realized I hadn't brought any makeup with me.

You know, I like a lip taint.

I like a brow gel.

You can't not put on some lip taint.

I know.

What are the squirrels going to think?

So that was part of it.

But I woke up this morning and basically a few glasses of wine last night.

Late.

This is what I'd ordered.

No joke.

This is the list.

Okay.

When you say a few glasses, how many is a few?

Three.

Okay.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

And a whiskey.

It was celebrating with my life coach.

Hey, listen, I literally ate a donut before we started today's pod, so I'm not judging.

There is no judgment here.

This is just.

Fill us in.

Let's have the facts.

Let's hear, you know.

Okay.

Number one, Velvia 100 Fujifilm.

Number two, a tripod.

Number three, a flash.

Number four, setting spray by Charlotte Tilbury.

Makeup Setting Spray.

Gel Brow,

Clear Mascara.

Contour.

Wait, what is clear mascara?

I was curious.

It's like

if you don't want to look too femi mascara, it's a clear gel.

So it lengthens without

concealer.

Sounds like a waste.

Two 25-pound weights.

Sounds like you're putting clear gel on.

It sounds like you're paying not gelatin.

Clear gel, but you're having it shipped overnight because Lord knows I can't wait.

I know.

I mean, it's mascara that you can't see.

Yeah.

And I need it now.

I need my invisible makeup.

I need to pay a lot of extra money for it to arrive immediately.

Delivered to the mountains.

And I have all this stuff in LA.

Like, I don't know why.

Okay, 220.

It seems like a racket for sure.

I mean, Tig and I are not, you know, makeup queens by any stretch of the imagination.

There's no real judgment here.

It does just seem like this clear mascara seems...

Not real.

It feels like you, I mean, I'm with you.

In the light of day, I realized that this is frivolous.

In the moment, I I thought, well, you know, what if visitors come?

How else are you going to look butchy?

Exactly.

Two 25-pound dumbbells, one audio interface, two weighted ankle bracelets.

Whoa,

two water shoes in case I do go in the water and it's weedy.

In case you shower.

Yeah,

wear my water shoes in the shower.

Yeah.

One synthesizer, two weightlifting gloves, one weighted blanket, one yoga magnet.

One synthesizer.

Wait a minute.

A synthesizer.

This list feels like you have not been focused on your self-help.

I know.

I'm telling you, this is a relapse into madness.

Please.

Synthesizer.

Please bring me a synthesizer.

Oh, and two gongs.

Yeah.

Well, it's kind of.

Because you have your guitar there, too, right?

I have two guitars here.

You have two.

You don't need two.

In case Sandigo girls show up,

one is plenty.

Oh, it's like two guitars in the synthesizer.

Yeah, Fortune and Invisible Mastera.

Are you recording an album this trick?

Maybe.

I might, you know.

It's all my areas of interest are basically cameras.

I just love how you're like music.

I can't live without these things for the couple weeks.

How am I going to get a gong in here?

The weighted blanket, too?

oh man it goes on but okay let's hear it

no i mean it's too embarrassing this is a crazy spending problem this is a safe space no it's not but please continue

okay

laugh but out of love yes yes yes a weightlifting bench um how am i gonna get this stuff out of here a weightlifting

bench yeah oh

my god this would be one thing if you had your own car but you were ubering back home I know, and there's a weightlifting gym around the corner for you.

I think you need to send the synthesizer and a weightlifting bench and one guitar back.

Yeah, all of a sudden the synthesizer doesn't even seem weird

after hearing a weightlifting bench, but go on.

Oh, a hair product, like a nighttime hot chocolate with magnesium in it.

That tastes

delightful.

Facial masks.

Creatine gummies for weight.

But like, this is, I mean, this is a small stuff.

It's a problem.

I'm going to send some stuff back.

I'm going to take this.

Oh, wait.

You ordered a bunch of this stuff?

I did order it all last night to be delivered in Arrowhead.

Oh, immediately.

It's not good.

What was it?

Like a.

Wait, was this you ordered the synthesizer?

Yeah, on Amazon.

Fortune, where have you been?

I thought we were on the same page.

I thought this was the list of things you brought up in the Uber.

No, no, this is what May has ordered overnight delivery.

Oh my God, this is worse.

No, am I the one that caught this?

I don't know how I missed that.

I never know what's going on.

That had to have been like,

how much?

Can you just say?

I don't want to just tell us.

I really don't want to say.

What was that?

We know you don't want to say, but you have to say.

$1,500?

No, it was under $1,000, but I got it.

$9.99.

I think it was in the 900s.

Wow.

But this is what, I know.

May Marie.

It's because maybe I got a little panicked that I still have two weeks left and I've kind of done all my fun things.

Like I've done my tarot cards.

I've done my spells.

I've taken some pictures.

We didn't even know there were spells.

I don't know what I'm going to do with my time now that my spells are done.

I guess I'll order a synthesizer overnight.

God, what could I possibly do now that all the spells have been done?

Well, what if I feel inspired by the wilderness to write like a kind of twin peaks-y theme song with a synthesizer?

You make a good point, May.

You make a good point.

Let me ask you this, though.

Do you own a synthesizer at home?

I own a keyboard that could be used as a thing.

Yeah.

Do you need a synthesizer?

Yes, Fortune.

How else are you going to live in the mountains and Lake Arrowhead when your squirrels are done?

How are you going to get all this in an Uber back?

Hey, you're not air monkey out our circus.

I think

you need to invite one more friend to come visit you in a week and a half.

Yeah, to bring stuff back.

I think you just...

Fortune, can you go?

I can't.

I'm

in the car.

I'm out of town a lot, but what about Sabrina?

Doesn't she want to have a trip out there?

Yeah, hopefully Sabrina will come up and bring some stuff.

It's like, I don't have any dependents.

I'm 38.

I'm like, these, I, when I buy these little things, it's like a little salt and pepper for life, you know, and then, and then, but I got to just return them because I've, yeah,

if you're listening and you're thinking, this is excess, this is like everything that's wrong with the world.

I know, like, the boxes arrive, the packaging, like, I know it's all bad, but I'm aware of the habit.

And Jen Horak, my life coach, is.

Yeah, that's the life coach is going to get on this.

Yeah, what does Jen think?

Jen is not impressed.

And, but, you know, compassionate inquiry.

I don't impress me much.

Oh, my God.

Fortunately, Twain's not impressed either.

either.

Wait, is that the same girl the same song as

let's go girls?

That's not the same song.

Same artist.

How dare you

find Twain's songs?

You got an eye.

I love her.

She needs to do a question.

Well, you got to go girls

or a life coach that answers all your problems in the form of songs.

Because that would really speak to you.

Like if you're if you're like

that's what that's what the indigo girls do.

They answer all your questions in life.

Yeah, really?

Yeah.

I mean, like, if you want to know where to go, they say, get out the map, you know.

Am I going to be alone forever?

Love will come

to you.

That's right.

Or what if someone says,

How close are you to fine right now?

Does that work?

Closer I am to fine.

I guess it would be like, are you okay?

Yeah, are you the question?

I love Galileo.

What would that question be?

Whose head was on the chopping block?

There you go.

Galileo's head was on the block.

I want to know more about Galileo's confident rendition.

He's the one who figured out that we live in a heliocentric universe, right?

He was the first person who said we go around the sun instead of the sun going around the earth.

And everyone said, you're full of shit.

And that's what people said to me when I was a child.

Was he a witch?

Was that a witch?

Yeah.

Who's that character?

I don't know who this is.

Was that a witch?

Was that a witch?

Are you talking about a witch, May?

Burn those witches.

I think I would have been a witch if I was in those olden times.

What are the olden times?

What year?

Whenever witches existed.

They're still around, dude.

They are active.

No, but when they were getting burned in Salem.

I want to say that was 1700s, Salem.

Probably I was in a past life.

What do we think I was in a past life?

A witch?

No.

No.

Not at all.

Around

1692, Thomas says.

Oh, so you were way off.

You were like eight years off.

I think you were.

I wasn't a witch.

Was I a man?

Yeah, you were a man.

Yeah,

we've been skirting around it, but I think you were one of the dudes.

I was a dude.

Yeah, burning the witches.

I was burning the witches.

Yeah.

Witches?

Don't act shocked.

God.

You're probably right.

No, I love witches.

I was looking at the stars last night and I was like amazed at how bright they are.

And then I was like, okay, my grandma was born 1923.

And so her mom was probably born, what, like

turn of the century, like 1900.

So basically my great-great-grandma, like my grandma's grandma lived before electricity, before like they would have seen the stars all the time.

And that's so close to us now.

My great-great grandma.

That's wild.

Really wild.

Is that what, where you were like, eh, I'm going to get a synthesizer?

Yeah, it was around then, I thought.

You went inside.

Yeah.

And I was having all these deep thoughts.

Yeah, like that.

I can't really use a synthesizer right now.

Oh, well, we have electricity now.

Weight bench and weighted ankles.

Weighted ankles.

What are they called?

That's just after a lot of salt.

Weighted ankle belts.

They're like ankle weights.

Yeah.

Did you you need those no i don't know

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Today's question asker is an actor, writer, producer, and entrepreneur best known for playing Mac on It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia since 2005.

He also co-created and starred in Mythic Quest, and he co-owns the football team Wrexham AFC, winning an Emmy Award for the documentary series, Welcome to Wrexham.

We have Rob McElhaney, also now known as Rob Mack, asking today's question.

Nice.

Hi, Handsome Podcast.

Rob Mack here.

I'm a big fan.

Thank you for including me in your show.

Tig, you were not there, but Fortunate and May asked me if I would ask a question and you can't go back on it.

So here goes:

Do you have anything in your lives that you can turn to that will instantly change your mood?

If you're depressed, or sad, or angry, or frustrated, you know that you can go to this one thing and it can quickly, instantly change your mood.

Hmm.

I'm afraid I have a very boring, obvious answer.

Salads.

You turn to salads.

Say your little cups.

Vegetables.

Is it vegetables?

How dare you, Fortune Marie?

Is it your dyke dust?

All right, no, I'm not going to share it.

No, please share.

You hurt my feelings.

Take no picture.

Don't make fun of lettuce.

You know how sensitive I am.

I know you love lettuce.

Sorry.

I'll never do it again.

You know what?

One of my co-stars on Star Trek sent me a picture of romaine lettuce from the company Notaro.

No way.

Yeah.

I didn't know there was a lettuce company called Notaro.

Nor did I, kid, nor did I.

Let's see.

Yeah, I just, when I take a walk, when I just head out into nature and I'm looking at beautiful things, I just,

ah,

I, there's nothing better to me to shift my mood.

Yeah.

And then not to bring it back to my great-grandmother, but isn't it crazy to think, isn't it wild to think that like she took walks in the dark?

Yeah, a few generations ago,

no one would have had to think, oh, I need to get some time in nature.

It would be like that kind of peace would be much more readily available.

Yeah.

You'd go to bed candlelight, you know, then get up when the sun comes up.

Yeah.

I like that.

Do you take different walks or do you have the same route around your neighborhood?

Good question.

I have

a very similar route in my neighborhood.

You know, it's funny to

have an appreciation for my walk in my neighborhood, seeing all the trees and the little dogs walking by and architecture and whatever.

But man, having

that time traveling on vacation and getting to go to the mountains and Central Central Park and all the different

being by oceans and lakes and whatever rivers it's just

a real embarrassment of riches to be able to see that kind of beauty and the different types of beauty and then in the back of my mind I'm like

I have to go back and

walk through the neighborhood, which is not a bad thing.

It's just, it's so nice when you're really submerged in nature though yeah like when you're in colorado probably yeah yeah that's what i mean is like like how i was mentioning after andrea passed uh

going out on 6 a.m hikes and watching the sun come up over the mountains and yeah it just was really

incredible really incredible Last night I saw these bats.

Like I went and sat on the dock and watched the sunset and tons of bats were coming around And I thought, if I had just decided to sit up at the house and scroll on my phone, I wouldn't have seen the bats.

Yeah.

Or if you'd been busy playing that synthesizer.

Exactly.

Exactly.

Think what you might miss when that thing arrives.

Wow, wow, wow.

I need this right away.

Wow, wow, wow, wow.

What shifts your mood?

Yeah, Fortune, what do you got?

Gosh, there's a lot of things that I can turn to, which I'm appreciative about.

Well, when I have Biggie, that's a big one.

Yeah.

Just his little, like, unconditional love just immediately puts me in the best headspace.

Yeah, I bet you co-regulate your nervous systems together.

Yeah, well, he's just always good.

Yeah.

As long as...

One of us is with him and he's fed, he's a happy boy.

Yeah.

But that just like genuine happiness that an animal brings when they see you that

that hits deep

uh if he's not around uh which is the case you know going to be the case more now unfortunately uh you know i love a bench

if i get a coffee and go to a bench and chill that puts me in a very good mood being near water puts me in a good mood i love

uh like just looking at water i don't have to be in it but i can just look at it and feel a lot more at peace.

But you do love to sit in it forever.

I do love to sit in it forever.

And that's good.

Not the ocean.

The ocean scares me.

I like to look at the ocean.

I don't want to sit in the ocean.

Okay.

Too many sharks.

Noted.

I love a lake.

So my situation right now, very ideal.

But yeah, stuff like that pretty much can reset me.

into a into a better space.

Wonderful.

It doesn't take a lot.

I'm not a big, my mood doesn't shift significantly.

Yeah, you're pretty steady.

I'm pretty steady.

So it doesn't take much to get me out of if I'm worked up about something.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think

working out, if I can be bothered, will always change how my entire body feels and

brain.

But honestly, an escape room, it's for an hour, I'm offline, I'm focused, adrenalized.

So being chased around a locked room is part is a good one.

Being chased around, they chase you around a locked room.

That's not anxiety-inducing at all.

But it doesn't change my mood.

True.

Yeah.

It just gives you something else to focus on.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, making music.

Well, yeah, maybe, do you guys find with shows, like sometimes you're not feeling it and you're dreading it and then you make yourself go and do it.

And then I always feel better after

circumstances.

It's so weird how that happens.

Yeah.

I've had moments where

I've been in an argument with somebody or gone through a breakup or even got news that a comedy friend passed away just moments before getting on stage and feeling like there's no world that I can do this show.

And then I do it.

And then I walk off like, wow, that's really insane how much things shifted.

Yeah.

And then, of course, it's

momentarily shifted, but

it is crazy.

Yeah.

What is that?

I don't know.

There's, yeah, I've had moments where I'm like, there is no possible way I can do this

show.

And then I have to.

And then I, and then I'm, I love it.

It is, it's crazy to think of

being an audience member and not realizing the different shows you've watched.

Yeah.

not realizing what is going on in that performer's life

before they walk on stage because you are

basically only an entertainer to the people in the audience.

You know, you are there to sing, to dance, to recite poetry, jokes, whatever it is, act.

And you could be in the worst argument with...

your partner or got bad health news or anything fired from a job.

I got broken up with once.

Right before.

And I know I found, I saw it during the show.

Oh, yeah, you mentioned that.

Yeah.

On a text.

Many, many years, many, many, many years ago, I had to do a, I did a bit where I read a thing off my phone.

Yeah.

And it was in the middle of a show, and I go to do the bit.

I see that I've been done.

I'm like,

that was.

Do you remember the text I got before our live live show in Toronto?

That was like,

that was like 15 minutes before we went on stage.

And I was like,

I mean, a quivering wreck.

But then the show was so fun.

The show was fantastic, but we were all like, uh-oh, that's going to go.

But that's the thing, because people, audiences think they want raw.

Like, they would think, oh, you just got.

dumped or something like come out and talk about it and it's like you think you want raw but you want raw as long as i'm confident enough to bring you out of it and make you feel safe you're

real.

Yeah,

yeah.

I remember that show.

There were a few moments where it felt like you're gonna make you were teasing going off the rails, but you didn't.

Yeah,

I was like, wow, where is this about to go?

And I was like, wow, they pulled themselves back in, and they're back in, and we're going.

And oh, we're going off, and we are back, folks.

Oh, God.

Oh, man.

Should we hear Rob's answer?

I do have one of those things, and it was provided to me by the great and powerful Almighty Caitlin Olson, who found it on the internet, printed it out, and taped it onto the refrigerator.

And it is this photo right here.

Oh, amazing.

For those of you who are listening and can't see it, it is a photo of a little boy who is opening what appears to be a new pair of shoes.

I'm not 100% sure that that's what's happening.

That's just what it looks like, and maybe I'm projecting onto it, but he looks like he's opening a box full of new shoes.

Actually, very simple looking shoes, but they look new.

And he's beaming to the heavens with a face of abject joy.

And

I find that whenever I'm feeling frustrated or angry or sad or most importantly, ungrateful, I just think about that photo.

I don't even have to look at it anymore.

I just think about it.

Think about what that that boy was going through leading up to the moment that he opened that box.

I think about the billions of people on the planet

for the last

hundred thousand years that have been maybe in similar circumstances who would be overjoyed by what we believe to be the simple pleasure of enjoying new shoes.

So that changes my perspective.

And I hope that you have something like that.

And if not, let me know and I'll have Caitlin reach out.

Caitlin, reach out.

That is beautiful.

I feel

like

chased around a locked room

instead of gratitude.

Problems being deep.

Yeah, no, that is so great.

The photo is really cute.

Yeah.

Can I send you guys my equivalent photo and maybe we can post it?

I'm sending it to the group.

This is a photo that gives me so much strength.

Maybe you've seen it.

It's a girl holding an owl.

Oh, that's cute.

Is that you, Meg?

The power and strength that she feels with that owl as her.

Yeah.

That is really awesome.

Yeah.

I love that.

We should have our listeners

tag us in if they have a picture like this.

Yeah, that gives them strength.

And for anyone who doesn't know or didn't pick up on where you've been asleep forever, Rob is married to Caitlin Olson.

That's why she put the picture on their refrigerator.

I didn't know that.

Okay.

She's so funny.

She is so deeply funny.

and I actually asked her for a question and she has

been a little slow to get this and I'm gonna follow up and I'm gonna send her that picture and just say look who

sent in their question yeah yeah do you tell her because Rob was he was pumped he's like heck yeah

oh my god she and I did a project a long time ago and then when it premiered we were at the

we were at the movie theater, and I ran up to her acting like I was a crazed fan.

And she was with her publicist or something who did not know who I was, and was like, Excuse me.

And Caitlin was acting like she was terrified of me.

That's so rude.

Oh, my God, that's funny.

I don't know exactly who the person was.

I don't know if it was an assistant or publicist.

And then Caitlin realized that this woman was truly trying to keep me away.

She's like, oh, no, no, no, this is, I think this was in like 2006 or something.

We were doing a bit.

Yeah, we were doing a bit.

Have you met Elizabeth Olson?

The Olson twin sister.

The unrelated.

Yes.

I met her and she was amazing.

She said she liked my work.

And I was trying to tell her I liked.

a show that she had recently done, but I couldn't think of the name.

And I kept going, you know, where you like murdered the person.

And she was looking at me like I was crazy.

And in hindsight, I'm like, maybe it wasn't her, but I'm pretty sure it was.

Are you talking about Love and Death?

The one where she plays the woman who murders her friend.

Yes, yes.

Yeah.

And I kept going, I kept going.

I just watched, because I saw she wasn't familiar with her.

Well, no,

I only, I watched like a year after it came out.

So it probably wasn't on the top of her mind.

Right.

It wasn't at Olsen, but I'm confident it was.

Because it was.

It was Caitlin.

It was at a like industry party.

And I kept going, you know, were you murdered?

You murdered.

And she just was like, I don't, I don't know.

And I was like, okay, nice to meet you.

Oh, my God.

But she was rad.

She's either Elizabeth or whoever this person was.

I really want to work with her.

She seems so funny and smart.

And yeah, Love and Death is that show where she, it's her and Jesse Plemons, and she, it's a true, based on a true story.

You got go candy something, candy character's name.

Yeah, yeah, that was good.

Can you believe that it's sunny in Philadelphia?

It's always sunny in Philadelphia, has been going for like 20 years.

That's insane.

Nuts, I know they played a kind of montage of clips when Fortune and I were in Montreal and they were giving an award to Rob, and just like, yeah, at the number of hilarious things that he's done.

There was a clip where he grabs Caitlin by the cooch and picks her up.

Fortune Marie.

Do not use that kind of language.

Sorry, Cooter.

He picked her up by the cooter and held her up in the air.

It's also fun to see,

you know, I think especially because Stephanie and I are together and work together, it's inspiring to see a couple that is doing

for so long, so successfully, and seem to really enjoy each other.

Yeah.

Yeah.

What a dream to have the domestic bond, but then also in your work life to be inspired by your partner.

And like, yeah, for sure.

For sure.

Annie on the soccer team.

I like that.

I want to own a soccer team.

I thought you said Annie on the soccer team.

I did.

He owns a soccer team.

Yeah, they're probably not broke yeah no they this team went from like this team went from like not good at all to like incredibly good it's like a mighty ducks story right yeah i yeah maybe we should look into pitching in on a on a small

amateur like maybe amateur women's soccer or something we all three go in on maybe we could just buy a rec like a local recreation um soccer team team of children playing.

Oh my gosh, yeah, and train them up or not.

Train them up.

They all have to sign contracts that we make 10% of their future earnings.

Check yes or no if you want to get trained up.

You guys want to get trained up?

Y'all here to get trained up or what?

Y'all want to go to the Olympics, make it to the big time?

Let's get trained up, y'all.

All right, sign here.

Check yes or no.

And

you pay us, and we are going to own you.

We're going to own.

They're like, I'm 10.

I'm four.

We put them all in the same team, four-year-olds, 10-year-olds.

I love soccer.

I know you do.

I just need to know, May,

how are you going to spend the rest of this week?

I thought you were going to say the rest of your money.

I was like, I know exactly what you're doing.

No, don't spend any more money.

You've ordered enough stuff.

What do you have any plans for this getaway?

Because I know you've done all the exciting stuff, like spells,

but is there any other plan?

There's always more spells to be done.

So I'll do it.

I actually have one planned for tonight.

I bought this stuff at House of Intuition.

It's like a big shell, and then they give you salt and special incense and then instructions on what to say.

And so I'll be doing that.

But no, mainly like,

I actually do have quite a bit of work to do.

So trying to do that in the morning and then

swim.

And

yeah, maybe I'll come back to LA for a night.

You know what you should do is do some cartwheels.

I haven't done

this point.

Well, work on it.

You have time.

That way you can put the synthesizer down and

get your cartwheel perfected.

before you head home.

I could do it off the dock.

You can do it anywhere.

What What if I make a video of me doing a cartwheel off a dock and send it?

Actually, can you give me like an assignment?

I just did.

Yeah.

Work on yourself.

I'm sorry.

Work on your cartwheel.

Yeah.

Oh, my God.

Are you wanting to go to LA for a booty call?

I am, actually.

Can you get Amazon to overnight your booty call?

No, I didn't.

I missed my opportunity when those braces guys showed up.

Yeah.

They were in their 20s.

Thank you for clarifying.

I love that you, that's an option to you.

That

two guys with braces in their 20s, you're like, I could hit that.

If I showed up with my gray hair, my blueberry teeth, and my wrinkles, and my dumpster tits, and I was like, boys, come on.

Va-va-vu.

Listen.

And my wedding ring on.

I'm not like totally indiscriminate, but I do think most people could have good sex with anyone.

I do believe that.

And if more people were, the world would be very different.

If they were more sex positive.

It's so rare that you meet someone you could be in a relationship with and build a life with.

But most people, I could, it doesn't matter.

You know?

You put a thing in a hole.

Fortune Marie.

i'm gonna do the cartwheels i've finished memorizing all the countries and their capitals like i'm i feel kind of bereft i gotta think of a new list

you gotta write some songs on that synthesizer apparently yeah and wear those weighted ankle belts while you do it on your own synthesizer a video of me doing everything at once putting on the clear mascara playing the synthesizer with your weights on your

wreath tig and i will stand by that.

That's a scam.

We'll stand by you.

Do you guys want to see Biggie?

We'll stand by you.

Biggie.

Biggie.

Did you see Biggie's little back legs doing the jig?

Yeah, they were doing a little kicking there.

Yeah.

This is the baby.

He is so cute.

I love him so much.

He's shining.

That is a hit song, Fortune.

And you hear it here first, folks.

You hear it here first.

That's right.

You hear it here.

You hear you hear it first.

You heard it here,

folks.

God, there's nothing better than someone accidentally saying a word slightly strange.

I love it.

You heard it?

You heard it.

I love it when others do.

I love it when people call it out on me.

Me too.

Because you heard you hear it,

hear you here.

Say bye-bye, baby, baby.

Isn't it interesting?

Because people do get upset if they

say a word wrong and somebody laughs.

Have you known people where they're like

funny duddies?

They get upset.

And

I always find it interesting when people get

upset.

I feel like it takes a lot to really hurt my feelings.

Right, right.

like it takes a lot.

And there have been moments that people have apologized for things where I'm like, I don't even remember that.

I have not been holding that.

You're going to get an apology text from Fortune about here.

Sorry, I said huge.

I would like a handwritten apology.

Like even when somebody's like, I don't find you funny at all.

I'm like,

yeah, getting a long line.

That doesn't get under your skin.

No, not in the

stuff gets under Tig skin.

That does not at all bother me.

That's that's amazing.

I find it fascinating.

Like, what, like, oh, not because I think I should be funny to them or anybody else.

I'm just like, what, what is like, what are you into?

Or what rubs you wrong about me?

Or it just doesn't.

Yeah.

I'm glad.

I'm thrilled if somebody tells me.

I find it, I genuinely, I'm so open to that conversation.

I don't take it personally.

Maybe I should because it's my comedy, but it just doesn't bother me in the slightest bit if somebody doesn't find me funny.

Is that weird?

No, I don't.

Yeah,

I aspire to it.

Yeah, I don't know.

Maybe it's weird.

I like it.

Anyway,

that's fine.

Don't judge me.

You're going to hurt my feelings.

Well, that was really fun hearing from Rob Mack.

And Rob, get the old ball and chain on submitting her question.

Yeah.

I'm at Largo on September 17th.

Come see me.

Come hang out.

And

yeah, that's about it coming out.

My show is coming out September 25th on Netflix.

So I'm just getting ready for that.

What about you guys?

Well, September 21st, I'll be a dynasty typewriter in Los Angeles.

And September 27th, people of Mississippi, I'll be in biloxi at the Beau Revage Resort and Casino.

Go to tignotaro.com for the rest of my tour dates because, as we know, the road goes on forever.

Also, make a note: November 14th on Apple TV,

the documentary about the poet,

incredible poet, Andrea Gibson, called Come See Me in the Good Light premieres.

And it is truly the thing, no offense, handsome friends, but what I'm most proud of in my entire career.

Yes.

I'm on tour

starting in mid-September in San Antonio and Houston, Texas, and then I head to Norfolk and Richmond, Virginia, then Washington, D.C., Boston, Mobile, New Orleans, Atlanta, Cincinnati, and Chicago and Salt Lake City.

You can go to FortuneFeamster.com for those tickets.

I think I also forgot to mention that the show

is premiering, and that is September 17th.

That's also an Apple.

So check out season four, I think, of The Morning Show.

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