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Speaker 2 Cheers to you. And you.
And you. Thank you.
Thank you. We need to tell people.
Oh, yeah, let's welcome people. Welcome to the Handsome Pod.

Speaker 2 Welcome. I'm Fortune Fieves, sir.
I'm Tignotaro. I'm May Martin.
Yes. We're together.

Speaker 2 We're together.

Speaker 2 And I just wanted to share a classic May moment that happened before we were filming.

Speaker 2 Yo, cheer.

Speaker 1 I was excited.

Speaker 2 We are too. We are.
What did you say?

Speaker 1 I said, I can't believe it.

Speaker 2 I can't believe we're together.

Speaker 2 I know.

Speaker 2 We haven't been in the same room for a while. It's been a while because we've all been touring or working or filming or traveling.

Speaker 2 All kinds of stuff.

Speaker 1 I guess it is like for a kid, you know, like if you said, oh, it's only January. Christmas isn't for a whole year.
They're like, well, because Christmas is never going to happen.

Speaker 1 And then it happens again Like every year, and you're like, I can't believe it.

Speaker 2 Yeah. It's Christmas.
Well, that's what I was saying. Is you sounded like it was Christmas morning to you when you're like, I can't believe it again.

Speaker 1 It's good to see you guys.

Speaker 2 It's good to see you guys.

Speaker 2 And then we have nothing to talk about. Well, anyways.
Well, I'd like to share that the Andrea Gibson

Speaker 2 and Meg Falley movie that I produced, Come See Me in the Good Light, the trailer is out.

Speaker 1 I know it is because when I came in this morning, morning fortune was weeping

Speaker 2 because you guys had just watched the trailer and i was like i know what that's about because i almost watched it in the car and i thought i can't you knew better i can't cry right now yeah i've already been i've been so tired the last few days just overworked and when i get overworked i can cry at the drop of a hat and you put a trailer like that in front of me yeah and i was like i was i'm fine i'm fine and then i'm like

Speaker 2 you need to um It looks beautiful.

Speaker 1 If you ever are trying to get an Oscar.

Speaker 2 You ever trying to do that? Oh,

Speaker 2 boy, do I want to try to get an Oscar.

Speaker 1 Then you got to just stay up all night and then you'll be in floods of tears.

Speaker 2 Honestly, that would be my best work. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Even if it's a comedy. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Fortune's unhinged again. Yeah.

Speaker 2 It did look amazing. I cannot wait for it to come out.
Thanks. I'm so proud of it.
It's very,

Speaker 2 as I was saying, I've seen that trailer obviously 10 million times. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And but the first time I saw it, I was so emotional.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 for some reason,

Speaker 2 it was

Speaker 2 one of the first moments that made me feel like Andrea was actually gone, which I haven't, I, of course,

Speaker 2 know Andrea. passed away,

Speaker 2 but I think when somebody

Speaker 2 leaves behind so much

Speaker 2 art,

Speaker 2 the way Andrea, I mean, it's just, it,

Speaker 2 yeah.

Speaker 1 And also it's, um, it's, yeah,

Speaker 1 it's just so packaged up so beautifully that it feels like there's a finality to it because of the nice music and everything.

Speaker 2 Yeah. What I was saying to Tiggy also is probably tough seeing Andrea so alive when you watch it that you just go, oh my gosh, I can't believe that the, yeah, that is not the case.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And then today, when it, when, you know, everybody's, the trailer came out and it's posted, it's like, I mean, this whole situation has been such a compartmentalized joy

Speaker 2 because it's such a beautiful film about beautiful people. But

Speaker 2 yeah, when the

Speaker 2 trailer came out today, it's like, God.

Speaker 2 Andrea is gone. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And Andrea not just doesn't get get to experience the movie coming out to the masses, but just Andrea being gone. It's like,

Speaker 2 but so anyway, I'm bittersweet.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's very bittersweet. I mean, I'm sure that's also the stages of grief, too, that that will keep unfolding for a while.

Speaker 1 Do you think those are legit, the stages of grief? Are they still around?

Speaker 2 People say, like, you go, like, have you hit angry yet?

Speaker 2 Like, do you have to hit all of them? I don't know that you have to, but I think they roll out in different ways.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and I think, like, angry, I mean, it's not, I wasn't, like,

Speaker 2 turning desks over and, like,

Speaker 2 punching walls. That would be so wild if that's how you expressed yourself.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 That's not. Yeah!

Speaker 2 Yeah, I, I think I have moments of anger.

Speaker 2 Like,

Speaker 2 I don't know if it's anger, just disappointment in myself, like with

Speaker 2 maybe I've mentioned before that I had this fantasy for a long time of creating like a tour with Andrea. Oh, right.
Oh, you're like, a poet, a musician, a comedian,

Speaker 2 an artist, like just do such a

Speaker 2 and

Speaker 2 you're frustrated at yourself of just yeah, where I'm like, why

Speaker 2 why was I putting that off? You know, it's something I would mention to Stephanie over the years, probably once, twice a year. I'd be like, I should put that thing together and be such a fun show.

Speaker 2 It's a show I'd want to see.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I like a mix of disciplines.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I like

Speaker 2 at their best. Yeah, yeah.
And

Speaker 2 or not.

Speaker 2 What a great show. What a great show.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 2 Media.

Speaker 2 Not at their best. Wouldn't be front row.
It's called Not at Our Best.

Speaker 2 Oh, my gosh. Maybe that's my new tour with my new material.

Speaker 2 That's not my best.

Speaker 2 Oh my God.

Speaker 2 Okay. I'm happy to be here.
That's kind of like bulletproof because no one can review it badly. You go, I told you.
Yeah, I said this was not my best.

Speaker 2 You knew what you were going for.

Speaker 2 Oh boy. That's my new

Speaker 2 tour.

Speaker 2 I am actually in the process of trying to name my tour.

Speaker 2 Tour is very great. But like not at your best.
I would be front row for that circus. Oh, my gosh.

Speaker 1 You know, my tour just went on sale, and I had to name it before I've written it. So I

Speaker 1 named it the possum.

Speaker 1 I don't have any material about this possum.

Speaker 2 But I don't think you need to, like, I think it can just be all-encompassing. Yeah.
Thematically? Yeah. About possums.

Speaker 2 Don't ever mention a possum. That's all the better.
That would be good. Yeah.
Because people will, you'll never lose their attention. They'll be waiting for the possum story.

Speaker 2 The whole thing never comes.

Speaker 2 And then they'll think, did I miss something? And then they'll buy the album, see the spells. They'll be like, I'm sure there's a mention of a possum.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there'll be fan theories being like, well, if you take the second word out of every.

Speaker 2 Well, and you know, there is a country music, I think I've told you this, a country music singer, George Jones, who is known as the possum.

Speaker 1 I did not know that.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 Why did that cause a hand dance?

Speaker 2 I was looking for a pen. Got a pen.
And the possum. Everyone just.
I love. I love that song.
Oh, my gosh. That's a new handsome dance, the possum.
Look at all that.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 2 I love that. Everyone's getting ideas for their tour.
And I like that you're saying that. And I'm going to say, this is the tour.

Speaker 2 No,

Speaker 2 you're writing the down of the George Jones.

Speaker 1 But I like that you're saying this is a new handsome dance. Like we have many.

Speaker 2 We have so many handsome dances. Well, we had the electric slide.
We have the electric slide. Wiggy wiggy, wiggy, wiggy.
That's right, my friend. But now it's Do the Possums.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Speaking of expressing anger.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 1 Boy, did I ever. Last week.

Speaker 2 Oh, you went to that thing. I'm back.
You're a changed person. Well, first of all, you're the number one star in Hollywood right now.

Speaker 2 So let's not. Well, let's be clear.

Speaker 2 Let's be queer. Let's be queer.

Speaker 1 I was briefly the number one search on IMDb.

Speaker 1 I think largely because people were like,

Speaker 1 what is this? They were curious.

Speaker 2 That's just an actual person. That's what that star thing is.
The star rating is people looking you up.

Speaker 1 It's how many people are looking you up. So I think it was just people looking at you.

Speaker 2 What did you think it was? I really didn't know how many

Speaker 2 rings you're on or

Speaker 1 it was God's

Speaker 2 viewed or something. I really didn't know.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think it's just the number of, and I think a big part of it is people being like, Does it have a penis or what?

Speaker 2 That's the Google search. Does it have a penis? You did the number one star meter search.
Does it have a penis?

Speaker 1 But yeah, that was a weird time to give my phone away for a week.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Can I tell you about this experience? Please.

Speaker 2 I'm actually not interested.

Speaker 2 Is there something else we could talk about? Yeah, what else is there? I think you have to listen. All right, let's hear it.

Speaker 1 Well, also, I don't want to like, I'm supposed to,

Speaker 1 you know, guard the experience closely and not like overshare it. And I don't want to, you know,

Speaker 1 you sign an NDA. Tell us everything.
Okay, basically.

Speaker 2 So,

Speaker 1 so no, I won't say where I went, but I went to like a it's a non-profit therapy retreat. Part of me was hoping like

Speaker 2 they'll be a masseuse. Oh, like a hot person you can get down to.
No, no,

Speaker 2 fortune murder. Brings an interesting insight into you.

Speaker 2 Gosh, May likes the fuck.

Speaker 2 It is

Speaker 2 45 a.m.

Speaker 2 Am I wrong?

Speaker 2 I don't don't know May's personal business in that way. I thought you were like, wouldn't this be fun if while I'm trying to learn about myself, I also.
May, tell us what happened.

Speaker 2 Tell us what happened. Thank you.

Speaker 1 So I get there and,

Speaker 1 well, the first thing that happened was the night before a toad hopped over my foot.

Speaker 2 So I thought.

Speaker 2 Yeah, what does that mean? Good omen.

Speaker 2 Good omen. No?

Speaker 2 Do we know that as a fact? Is that a May fact? Well, first things first, a toad hopped over my foot.

Speaker 1 So I was in the parking lot of the Quality Inn the night before. I was like, I'm nervous.

Speaker 2 Why did you have to sit there? Of course, a toad hopped over your foot in the room at the Quality Inn.

Speaker 1 It was grimy. And

Speaker 1 all the trucks parked there had like Trump signs on. There was a big group of guys drinking in the parking lot.
But why did you stay there?

Speaker 2 Do you know Trump?

Speaker 1 I wanted to be close to the place because you got to be there. So I had to fly to, well, I won't say.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah, they'll say.

Speaker 1 But then I'm in the parking lot of the Quality Inn

Speaker 1 having a cigarette.

Speaker 2 And it's terrible. It was not quality.

Speaker 2 It was scary. This is the retreat? No, no, no.

Speaker 2 Five days of frog jumping over my quality inn. I'm playing leapfrog while you smoke in the parking lot.
With a bunch of trophies. It's almost like a dicey start.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was a dicey start. So I'm having a cigarette and a little toad hops over my foot.
So I think you got it the first time. Yeah, I think I'm in the right place.
The next morning, I get my Uber.

Speaker 1 I drive up the path to this retreat center, and it's like it's a bit like summer camp, a bit like hospitally. And I have a little monastic little room with like a single bed.

Speaker 1 And anyway, I go and check out.

Speaker 2 I don't know about monastic. I actually don't either.
What is that? Really? You aren't going to speak up?

Speaker 1 You were going to let it slide. Maybe.

Speaker 2 Well, if it was, I didn't want to be two against one.

Speaker 1 And now it's two against one.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Monastic, like monk-like.

Speaker 1 Oh. Like a monk.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 Austin.

Speaker 1 yeah we totally knew that anyway monastic so i go in i get my phone in and um i go i'm trying to make friends i'm gonna go this is crazy can't believe we're doing this turn around there's a one woman there and i knock a really expensive vase over with a with an orchid in it and it's it must have been expensive if it was pronounced vase

Speaker 2 yeah a vase

Speaker 2 yeah that you can do those are the disposable You don't say vase?

Speaker 2 You're Southern. Yeah, we love vase.

Speaker 2 I'm not going to. Oh, you're fancy Case.
I would say Vase. Okay.
Because y'all are a fancy Canadian. You're not American.
We get it. Oh, we're from Canada.

Speaker 1 So, so far I've had the toad, and then I've knocked over and smashed a vase with an orchid as my intro. Anyway, it was crazy.
I think overall it was.

Speaker 1 It was good. I had a lot of time to think, but it was pretty grueling.
It was like 9 a.m. or get up at 7 a.m.

Speaker 1 and then do this program until 9 p.m.

Speaker 1 I won't go into huge detail, but they're.

Speaker 2 And you paid for this.

Speaker 2 I paid for it. A lot, I'm sure.
You know what? It wasn't.

Speaker 2 Oh, gosh. It wasn't crazy.

Speaker 1 And you know what? It's cool because it's a non-profit. 20% of people there are there on scholarships.
Oh, okay.

Speaker 2 I like that. Are they equally as miserable? And do they have to pretend that they're not because they're there for

Speaker 1 it felt like the people who came because they have problems accessing their emotions

Speaker 1 and want to rediscover a sense of play, they blossomed. I have no problem accessing the emotions.

Speaker 2 If anything, I need like, yeah.

Speaker 1 So, but you know what was, I'll say my favorite part was I come in one morning. There's a pillow and a baseball bat.
And I spent.

Speaker 2 You love that. I love

Speaker 2 a pillow and a baseball bat.

Speaker 1 I I beat the shit out of this pillow for 45 minutes without stopping, and you're not allowed to stop.

Speaker 1 I went into some primal injuries.

Speaker 2 Wait, this is something that was an exercise to do there?

Speaker 1 In the room with everyone. We all had earplugs in, and I'm beating the shit out of this pillow.

Speaker 2 Oh, my God. Crying, crying, screaming.

Speaker 1 It was wild. I lost my voice.
My hands were bleeding. Like, I was like, oh, yeah, I'm pissed.

Speaker 2 Wow, but did you know?

Speaker 1 I never express anger. Like, I've haven't raised my voice since I was about 10.

Speaker 2 Really? Yeah. And do you think that was just like an accumulative anger just finally coming out? Or were you angry about something specific? You don't have to tell us.

Speaker 1 Somebody specifically.

Speaker 2 I mean, as long as you were able to pinpoint what it was, I think that's helpful.

Speaker 1 It was multiple things, but yeah, we did. And we did a lot of that kind of thing.

Speaker 1 At one point, halfway through the week, I was pretty close to leaving. I packed up my little bag.
I thought, you know what? This feels like...

Speaker 2 Little cowboy's little bag?

Speaker 1 And when I say little, it was massive.

Speaker 2 Of course. It had a synths

Speaker 2 and piano in it.

Speaker 1 No, no synths allowed.

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Speaker 2 No,

Speaker 2 no laptop, no phone. That's on their rules.
No synthesizing. So you just like, I need to check in on how Wayward's doing on Netflix.
I got to get out of here.

Speaker 1 I was just like, what am I doing here? Like, this is supposed to be such an exciting moment in my life. And I'm here sobbing like in the woods with strangers.

Speaker 1 Like, is this punitive? You know what I mean? Right.

Speaker 2 When you first arrived, though, were you like, hey guys, I'm so happy to be here.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 100%. Yeah.
And I will say, I'm glad I stuck it out because that night I thought I'm going to leave. I couldn't sleep.
And then I got up and it was a full moon. I went walking through the woods.

Speaker 1 I saw deer. I saw a rabbit.
And then I find this stone labyrinth. And I actually thought about Andrea because I was thinking.

Speaker 1 Where are my guides at? And I was thinking about my grandma. And I thought,

Speaker 2 Andrea, are you around?

Speaker 1 I get to the middle of this

Speaker 1 labyrinth of stones. And in the middle is a big live toad that's just riveting at me in the moonlight.

Speaker 2 And I'm like, wait, this is after you've already had a toad hop over you? Yes. You see another one? Thank you.
Yes. In the middle of the swirly doo.
Because you know what that means. No.

Speaker 2 Oh, nobody does.

Speaker 2 When you find a frog in the middle of a swirly-dew

Speaker 2 in the woods,

Speaker 2 what does it mean?

Speaker 1 I think it meant stay, but in a toad, like

Speaker 2 stray. Stir.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 and then so I did stay, and I'm glad I did because by the end, I'm okay. The main thing I took away, there's just 40 people in this group, all different demographics, people in their 70s, 40s,

Speaker 1 all the ages, and different jobs. No, keep going.

Speaker 2 As I said, I'm like, why did I pick those two?

Speaker 2 40s, 60s, 50s. Okay, 30s.
Any 20s?

Speaker 2 I don't think there were any 20s, actually, yeah.

Speaker 2 Anyone in their hundreds?

Speaker 2 One 102-year-old. She was tall.

Speaker 2 She's like, I have some things to work on before I get out of here.

Speaker 2 I'm really into self-help. I just

Speaker 2 feel more things.

Speaker 2 You're like, you're 102. I think you're just fine.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And by the end of it, I was like, oh, we're all just. toddlers.
Like we, I felt really bonded to these people by the end of it. I was like, oh, you did?

Speaker 2 I did by the end. Yeah.
Just the program was

Speaker 1 going through crazy shit and you're not allowed to talk about your work or you couldn't promote way worth

Speaker 2 or the handsome or your dog. Or my dog? I could not.
Oh, my God. What about Fortune's tour? I know.

Speaker 2 I'm taking care of business. Yes.

Speaker 2 What if you were talking about your friends podcast? Handsome.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 You know what I find helpful.

Speaker 1 Also, nobody recognized me except one woman on day one. They had just said you're not allowed to talk about your work.
And then this woman goes, Are you that comedian?

Speaker 2 And then I'm just like, you went in like

Speaker 2 at the beginning of the

Speaker 2 whatever retreat. Yeah.
Like, what, 4,000 on Star Meter?

Speaker 2 And then you came out, number one. I don't check my Star Meter.

Speaker 2 Digs over there refreshment.

Speaker 2 I'm following you on

Speaker 2 IMTV.

Speaker 2 She tracks everyone's star star meter.

Speaker 2 What if you found that out?

Speaker 2 That was really smart. Do you have a spreadsheet? Or we could just test you? You go, Tom Hanks, you're 12.

Speaker 2 Oh, my God. I was obsessed with people's star meters.

Speaker 2 Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Yeah, overall, by the end,

Speaker 1 we were tight.

Speaker 2 Who was your favorite person?

Speaker 1 Well, I got to say, because

Speaker 1 I was the only queer person and I was the only person who smoked. And so once a day, I'd go and have my cigarette.

Speaker 2 You're allowed to smoke there?

Speaker 1 You're allowed to go and have your smoke. And let me say by day three, a lot of women in their 50s and 60s going, you got to smoke? Can I bum one? Were they flirting with you?

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 2 We just needed a break.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we were bonded. So I think

Speaker 2 there were a handful of people I got. I got tight with, for sure.
Here's my question. And you got hooked on cigarettes.

Speaker 2 Tell me how each of us would do individually at this.

Speaker 2 Good question. Thank you.
Thank you. I always wait for that from you.

Speaker 2 Like, picture Fortune in there

Speaker 2 beating that pillow.

Speaker 1 I can't imagine that.

Speaker 2 I think you both.

Speaker 1 I had to totally switch off any sense of irony about it.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, I was like, I paid for this. I'm here.
I got to commit.

Speaker 2 And to commit to the experience. I wonder what I was doing when you were beating that pillow.

Speaker 1 There was one day I beat it with a sledgehammer.

Speaker 2 Wait, it was multiple days of beating this pillow? There was a lot of beating. Wow, this must have been a thick pillow.

Speaker 1 A lot of visualizations, though, as well. And, like,

Speaker 2 I just see it going straight through the pillow. What do you see the floor? What do you think you were doing when Mae was beating that pillow? Like, I was crying myself because

Speaker 2 I was so tired, like, the last five days. Yeah.
And when I get overly tired, like we talked about, I am weepy. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I'm just a dumb bitch. That's funny.

Speaker 2 Excuse me. Don't talk about your friend like that.
This takes one. Don't talk about my friend like that.
So, yeah, I was probably crying.

Speaker 1 I think you guys, if you could get out of your own way, like if you were just like, there's no one I know here, I may as well just go for it. I think you could

Speaker 2 commit to an experience like that.

Speaker 1 I think so.

Speaker 2 I don't know about this one. There were things.
I don't either. Yeah,

Speaker 2 this one's leaving on day one. Look, I love a retreat.
I'm with you guys. I love

Speaker 2 breathing. I love meditation.
I love veganism.

Speaker 2 I'm perfect for this. How's the food? That would be my determining factor.

Speaker 1 So good, actually.

Speaker 2 Oh, COVID. Biscuits, farm fresh biscuits.

Speaker 1 To be honest,

Speaker 2 farm fresh biscuits.

Speaker 2 Assad meals.

Speaker 1 What was like a revelation to me was what I already knew going in, which was like, if you sleep eight hours a night, you eat three meals a day of fresh food and you don't look at your phone, you're going to feel good.

Speaker 2 And you did. I felt great.

Speaker 1 Got back home right back into the old patterns for sure. But I took a lot from it.

Speaker 2 What did you take? Well, that we're all the same.

Speaker 2 Snuck some breasts. I took a bag of fresh biscuits.
I snuck them out. Oh, my God.
Yes, what was the takeaway? The takeaway, well, it's still percolating, but I think, like,

Speaker 1 I think it was

Speaker 1 identifying what's mine and what's other people's, you know, releasing some shame, some,

Speaker 1 you know, shame you knew you had or shame.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah, that's the thing.

Speaker 2 That's the thing.

Speaker 2 We all know it. We all know it.

Speaker 1 And everyone's the same. That was really reassuring.

Speaker 1 Everyone is like, I'm mad at my parents, but also I love my parents and I feel guilt and I feel, you know, I don't think I'm attractive enough or smart enough.

Speaker 1 Like, we are all the, everyone has those,

Speaker 2 I think. Do we?

Speaker 2 Probably to some extent.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like just complicated complicated sort of little toddlers.

Speaker 2 For sure. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 So that was nice, I guess, to realize.

Speaker 2 And all of those things that

Speaker 2 your

Speaker 2 personality and body, everything kind of just

Speaker 2 becomes figures to get you through life.

Speaker 1 And picking apart all that and being like, what's my authentic

Speaker 1 where I thought you guys would have been like, I'm out, which was,

Speaker 1 we'd had a really intense morning I was feeling like I'm not sure about this and then they said don't worry we're gonna have a really fun afternoon and then it was a lot of like square dancing

Speaker 1 pretty much it was a lot of

Speaker 2 like play me too like uh

Speaker 1 like play and um

Speaker 1 and then they go guys You have 45 minutes. We're going to meet in the classroom and you guys are going to put on a sketch comedy show.

Speaker 2 And I thought

Speaker 1 it was a bullet in my brain.

Speaker 2 That is painful.

Speaker 1 After I've just been so raw beating up this thing, I'm like, I'm fucked up. And now I got to do a comedy show.

Speaker 2 Put your wig on.

Speaker 2 It was wild. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And you did it.

Speaker 1 Oh, I did it. And, you know,

Speaker 2 were you funny?

Speaker 1 No, not remotely.

Speaker 2 Not remotely.

Speaker 1 But everyone else was. And it was really nice seeing how.

Speaker 1 And I thought, I am lucky that my job involves a sense of play. And that's not hard for us to access, I feel like so.

Speaker 2 The other people, they made you laugh, and they were,

Speaker 1 yeah, they were because we were playing the teachers and playing each other.

Speaker 2 Like, we were, and people were really going for it in that.

Speaker 1 I mean, because it was seeing like people in their 70s who were, there's a, someone, you know, from all different places.

Speaker 2 102-year-old was hilarious. She was hilarious to see.
Her fake mustache.

Speaker 1 Anyway, I feel, I also, I feel like

Speaker 1 I only only know my experience of it, which was overall very positive. And I'm grateful for it.

Speaker 1 And I've noticed as I've told the story this week, I've gotten more cynical and I'm going for the laughs. Whereas when I first got back, I told my roommate all about it.
And I, I.

Speaker 2 The raccoon?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I told the raccoon all about it.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And he said that I, he's like, oh, it sounds like you had a great time. And then he heard me retell it like four days later.

Speaker 2 He was like, well, when you got back, you loved it.

Speaker 1 And now the more you tell it, you're going for the punchline.

Speaker 2 That's interesting. Isn't it? Isn't it?

Speaker 2 Oh, I wonder what that is yeah I think I'm just used to real growth yeah now tell me this yeah was there somebody there at the retreat where you're like whoa they are in it and believe in it and they are like

Speaker 2 you know because if you're if you decide I'm going with this and I'm gonna get something out of this and yeah no cynicism just yeah I can't yeah I'll tell you was it was it so fun to watch that person it was the whole thing was riveting, I'll say.

Speaker 1 Like, if I ever got in my head, I thought, well, there's all these people I would never have met, and they are having wildly different experiences and committed, and

Speaker 1 it was riveting.

Speaker 2 Was there somebody that drove you insane, and then you ended up going, oh, I understand their trauma and their life, and I get it.

Speaker 1 I'll say that was part of the program where they said, if there's anyone who sort of triggered you when, you know, based on on pretty much nothing, because we were exploring like negative transference, like in your life, there's people that just make you like, God, and it's like, is that my, what is that?

Speaker 1 So I was thinking, oh, there's this guy that is,

Speaker 2 I don't know.

Speaker 2 Yeah, like,

Speaker 2 yeah, I really. You don't know why or, or you did know why.

Speaker 1 He's like, he's only really talking to the other men.

Speaker 1 And like, he's, he, he said a couple of things that anyway, so I, I write it down and then they go, okay, now you're going to go tell that person to their face.

Speaker 2 I would hate that.

Speaker 2 I know.

Speaker 2 People, please.

Speaker 2 So you went and told this person.

Speaker 1 I had to sit down in front of him with a t-shirt. I know.
You would love it. It was juicy.

Speaker 2 That's your jam.

Speaker 1 And the person who's being told it is not allowed to respond.

Speaker 2 They just have to be like, God.

Speaker 1 And so I, and it's like structured like a script. So I'm like,

Speaker 1 I experienced you as,

Speaker 1 you know, potentially judging me because of this thing that you said about about, and this thing, and blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 2 Meanwhile, your life is going nuts online. You're the number one star in the world, but go ahead.
I'm in the woods with your star meters. Your star meters sticking up.

Speaker 2 Takes tracking the entire picture. Share cartoon groups.
I'm like,

Speaker 2 the second I saw you, my skin was crawling.

Speaker 1 And then, you know, and then I say, and

Speaker 1 that is a pattern that I got from this place, and I take responsibility for my experience and stuff. And it was fascinating.
And he's just like, okay.

Speaker 1 And of course, yeah, by the end, we're hugging and

Speaker 1 we were so much closer having had that exchange.

Speaker 2 Like by the end, yeah.

Speaker 1 And I thought nobody's going to have a problem with me.

Speaker 2 Let me tell you. Oh, several, two people.
No one could stand you. Let me tell you.
Everyone.

Speaker 2 Least favorite person there. You were number one on the star meter of.
Two's not bad. How many people are we talking about? We were only allowed to.
There were four people there.

Speaker 2 You're only allowed to. That's because they had a limit.
Here's my final question. I could talk to you about this forever.
Yeah. If Fortune and I were like, oh my gosh, this is so interesting.

Speaker 2 We really want to go. Can you go with a friend? No.

Speaker 1 You'd have to.

Speaker 2 That was a good question, too. That was a great question.

Speaker 2 You could lie about it. Because what if we were in the same room beating a pillow? I know.

Speaker 2 You guys would be like,

Speaker 2 you've been blinking at each other.

Speaker 2 Get that pillow. Get that pillow.

Speaker 1 No, I think you, yeah, no one that you know.

Speaker 1 Okay. But man, it was it was fascinating.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah.
All right. Look at you.

Speaker 1 I feel, I hope I've been respectful about the experience.

Speaker 2 Well, you haven't, but

Speaker 2 here's the thing is, I think it's awesome that even if even if you didn't leave with what you hope that you left with, that you left with something and

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Speaker 2 How are you, Fortune?

Speaker 1 Yeah, what's going on?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I'm fine. I'm fine.
I, yeah, it was,

Speaker 2 I'm filming, so I'm busy with that. But truly, it's so fun that like on, like, I was filming last night, just thinking, I'm having the best time.
Really? It's amazing.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I love Will, and we get along so great and like just cackle. We just make each other

Speaker 2 laugh so hard. And I was sitting across from him on this bus last night and just, we both just kind of like, this is so fun.
Yeah. Oh, man.

Speaker 2 So it just feels like that pure like comedy experience where you're just like with a nice person. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Good values and it treats people kindly. Oh, that's the difference.
And every, so everyone around us is pleasant and happy. And we, in between takes, go to the, they call it Video Village.

Speaker 2 You get, I'm just saying that for our audience. And, uh,

Speaker 2 and sit there and we laugh with everyone around there and then go back to on set laugh there oh uh which i really needed because i just was really you know i i've just been a little emotional lately just uh yeah i think about my mom has been kind of finally catching up to me yeah

Speaker 2 yeah

Speaker 1 but that that is amazing that you have this place you can go where you kind of you will with you have to compartmentalize you have to be present and you're laughing and

Speaker 2 and you got farm fresh biscuits i did not get farm fresh biscuits. But yeah, I hadn't seen my mom in like a month and a half because of work.
And then I went and she had not had a good week.

Speaker 2 And I've just been very nauseous and just like really

Speaker 2 tired. And I was like, I'm going to swing through there.
It's just like two days. I was stuck in the Boston airport for nine hours.

Speaker 1 I was following this on Instagram.

Speaker 2 What the hell happened? I had a show in Boston, which was amazing. It was so incredible at the Wayne.
Were you posting it on stories or something? Just a couple pictures.

Speaker 2 Like, here we were four hours in it. We deplaned twice.

Speaker 2 The airport was a mess because there was a storm coming through. So my first delay was that the plane delayed coming in.

Speaker 2 Then we got on the plane, taxied out, sat forever. Then they're like, the windshield wiper's broken.
Go back in. That's it.
Then you're like,

Speaker 2 that's what I can't stand. When a flight is like, we're having mechanical or technical, whatever problems, I'm like,

Speaker 2 what is it? Is it the windshield wiper or the wind fell off?

Speaker 2 Let's get specific. Yeah, that is really crazy.
But it's like, don't go far because we, you know, and so you can't really like, you can't go like have a, you know, meal or something.

Speaker 2 And then we get back on it finally again. Now we're like five hours into this.
And then we taxi out. They're like, now bad news.
Now this has happened. We go back in.

Speaker 2 And then finally they gave us a new aircraft, but it was there for nine hours. What if if on the side of the plane you realize it said student flyer?

Speaker 2 Then I'm grateful for the nine-hour delay that they could get a real pilot.

Speaker 1 Did you bond with any of the other people?

Speaker 2 No, because I just was like staring into space. I was just so when I got to the airport, I was on my I just was so tired.
Yeah. That I called my mom.
This is when I know I'm beyond. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And I just am crying to my mom in the airport. I put my hoodie on.

Speaker 2 People are recognizing me and I'm turning my head and I just look like I'm this is like

Speaker 2 so I'm already ready to get to her to just like

Speaker 2 shut it all down and not have to you know just like

Speaker 2 not be anything just like lay on my mom's couch and just chill. Yeah.
And then I'm stuck for nine hours.

Speaker 2 So I'm already in this bad space and it just gets so I get to the point where I'm just like catatonic. And then I finally land and I go to my mom's and we have a late dinner.

Speaker 2 But yeah, I just, you know, it's she, she's always in good spirits, but you can tell it's like taking a toll on her and the chemo's not doing what we want it to do.

Speaker 2 And you just kind of get, I just think it all finally caught up to me where I was like, oh, I'm sad about this. Of course.
And,

Speaker 2 you know, she's like, I don't want you to worry about me. And

Speaker 2 yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. It's impossible not to.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 that's tough. Fortunately.
Where's that pillow? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Get a bat and a pillow. Yeah.

Speaker 2 So I'm just, you know, just, I want her to, hopefully the, thank you.

Speaker 2 I just want her to be okay. And, you know, it's, it's still, she's still fighting the good fight.

Speaker 2 I mean, she's not going anywhere right now, but you start to think about the what-ifs and what-if this doesn't do anything ever. Thanks, Thomas.
And what does that look like? And thank you, Thomas.

Speaker 2 But it was nice to just be around her. And, you know, it's just that thing of like realizing your parents are getting older.
And

Speaker 2 this is sometimes what happens with that journey. So,

Speaker 2 yeah.

Speaker 2 I mean, just putting it out there and, you know, there's people, I don't know if you or your mother would be open to it, but there are people

Speaker 2 that can like

Speaker 2 insert themselves into the conversation with a family who's dealing with like serious health issues. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 having a third person to talk to

Speaker 2 in,

Speaker 2 like,

Speaker 2 I met this woman.

Speaker 2 She runs this organization that does this. And I reached out to her

Speaker 2 when Andrea was ill and just like,

Speaker 2 you know.

Speaker 1 Like, how do you, yeah, because it's such a universal experience, but when you're in it, you're like, what do I say?

Speaker 2 How do we handle it? How do we handle this? Yeah. What's, yeah.
And, and, um, I mean, I can get you her number, and it's just something to keep in your back pocket until or if you want it.

Speaker 2 But it's like, it's so crucial to

Speaker 2 just to keep conversations open. And

Speaker 2 I'm just endlessly floored by the people people that do that kind of work.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but anyway, it's it's it's yeah, it's just something I wanted to put out there, and that's really just it's a lot to navigate on your own.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think at first I was just kind of like, This is what this is what is happening. Yeah, these are the facts, she has this, we're gonna get through it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and then I think this week I was just like, This isn't good, yeah,

Speaker 2 you know, as simple as that sounds, I was just like, uh-oh, Yeah.

Speaker 2 And, um, yeah. But anyway, we have to get to our question.
But I,

Speaker 2 it'll be okay.

Speaker 2 And yeah, I will

Speaker 2 not keep compartmentalizing and just face it. Yeah.
Hit the pillow.

Speaker 1 Hit the pillow, cry the night.

Speaker 2 One of the things, and this is kind of abstract, but it is such a beautiful moment in Andrea's documentary where their f

Speaker 2 ex-girlfriend, who is one of their best friends,

Speaker 2 Bethy, was going through an intense experience with

Speaker 2 her father and called Andrea in the middle of it. And

Speaker 2 Andrea said, just call everything love,

Speaker 2 everything you're feeling, everything that's happening, just call it love.

Speaker 2 And Bethy said that when she applied that to the moment, and again,

Speaker 2 it's a little abstract,

Speaker 2 but it's coming from a poet. Yeah.

Speaker 2 But I think it's a really beautiful thing in hard moments to

Speaker 2 call

Speaker 2 everything love. Yeah.
I like that. Again, I don't know if you remember that moment.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 But yeah.

Speaker 2 I will try that.

Speaker 2 Thank you. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Shall we kiss? Should we all call it love? Aw, well, thank you. How do I cry again?

Speaker 2 It's tough. I haven't cried with you guys since the last time I saw you on the show.
It's when we're here. This couch.
And we haven't seen each other in person.

Speaker 1 Also, it feels like a therapy couch.

Speaker 2 It feels like you're our couple's therapist. But we do have to get to our question because it's very exciting.
It is.

Speaker 2 Yes, it is very exciting.

Speaker 2 Yeah, this is such a cool honor to

Speaker 2 have our question askers that we have today. Yes, I i know we're going big we we have we've gone really big today

Speaker 2 we're basically at the top of big we're kind of at the

Speaker 2 imdbit

Speaker 2 yeah i mean that's a little teaser we've gone high yeah not teasers we've gone high

Speaker 1 today's question askers are siblings who grew up together in chicago one sibling is a lawyer and author who served as the first lady of the united states the other other currently serves as the executive director of the National Association of Basketball Coaches.

Speaker 1 Michelle Obama and Craig Robinson are asking today's question.

Speaker 2 How cool.

Speaker 2 What an honor. Yes.

Speaker 6 Hey, Handsome. Craig Robinson and my little sister Michelle here.
We host a new podcast called IMO with Michelle Obama and Craig Robinson. We are such big fans of Handsome.

Speaker 6 You guys keep us laughing every week. Now we know you all have siblings yourselves but we don't know enough about them here is our question

Speaker 2 what's one of your favorite childhood memories with a sibling oh that's so cool that's crazy and of course their video is shot gorgeous i was gonna say that's the most professional video question

Speaker 2 yeah it really is it looks so good yeah yeah

Speaker 2 oh my gosh oh i aspire look at us we're just like all over the place train wrecks train wrecks

Speaker 2 i have wrinkled shirts being racking pillars at each other per episode i'm like i could have steamed that shirt

Speaker 2 oh that's cool they have a podcast together yeah i've been seeing uh i've listened to it it's really cool and i've seen a lot of clips on the old tick tock and

Speaker 2 uh and they had brock on there as a guest hard how'd they get him

Speaker 2 hard

Speaker 1 what would it be like if you guys had a podcast with your sibling? Like, what would

Speaker 1 that dynamic be?

Speaker 2 Well, my brother comes from sports radio. Oh, no.
Yeah, so this is like his world.

Speaker 2 He's podcasted. He does play-by-play.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 2 He does all of that. Well, we're coming at.

Speaker 2 Let's follow that through.

Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 2 we're coming up on.

Speaker 1 Well, we're coming up on a big season here.

Speaker 2 We got a couple of rounds coming a couple of rounds coming in fast uh and

Speaker 2 a couple rounds coming in fast and uh no no slow rounds coming in and of course coming up from behind we got a couple slow rounds as well

Speaker 1 um okay so you'd maybe do a sports

Speaker 2 well i would imagine it might be my

Speaker 2 my initial response or thought would be it'd be my brother telling me about sports me having a bunch of questions i like that yeah all right so i guess maybe i'll pitch that to head gum well my brothers own a fishing business together called Southern Kingfish Association.

Speaker 2 So they do some podcasting stuff

Speaker 2 from fishing tournaments. Wow.
But where would you fish? And are they coming to the fish? I mean, I would try to make the fishing this more exciting because I'm like, what?

Speaker 2 We're just going to hear about fishing. I am truly one of those people that could watch, and this is a bad vegan, but I could.
I love fishing shows. It's pretty thrilling.
That's their whole world.

Speaker 2 And they throw tournaments themselves. So they live stream a lot of these tournaments.

Speaker 2 And I don't know if they actually like do commentary or anything, but yeah, I guess I would add a little flavor to that fishing world. You just get in there and cuss.
I would know nothing.

Speaker 2 That's not what all I do. That's all you do.
You sing and you cuss.

Speaker 2 And you eat biscuits and you cry. And I cuss and eat biscuits.
That is

Speaker 2 no.

Speaker 2 I'm not going to say it.

Speaker 1 So, what was the question was favorite memory?

Speaker 2 Favorite memory with a sibling? Did I just say

Speaker 2 sibling? Yeah, that's right. I don't know.

Speaker 2 Sibling. Is that not the right word? I think they said sibling.
Anyway, who cares? Nobody's listening.

Speaker 2 I'm

Speaker 2 thinking about all those two beat me up.

Speaker 2 Oh, boy. Really? Yeah, they used to beat me up.
They treated me. Does it have to be childhood? Is that what they said?

Speaker 2 They just said any. Did they beat you up as a grown woman?

Speaker 2 What age I club.

Speaker 2 At what age does it become really problematic?

Speaker 2 You guys, you guys, we have to get out of this stage.

Speaker 2 They treated me like one of the boys, which I wanted.

Speaker 2 But that also was hard. Until it was tough.

Speaker 2 I was like, I'm tough. I can hang with you guys because there was a the whole neighborhood was boys.
So I wanted to be in the group and be included.

Speaker 2 And my mom would be be like, don't leave your sister. And I'd be like, haha, you, you guys have to fucking take me, Cussy.
There we go. And they were like, oh.

Speaker 2 And then I would try to be like, see, I belong here. And then, like, within an hour, I'm like, oh my God,

Speaker 2 it hurts.

Speaker 2 Why do you push me?

Speaker 2 That would be so funny

Speaker 2 to see two grown men meeting up their

Speaker 2 sister. Of course, it wouldn't really be funny.
That's how we had a cartoon. That's how we handle conflict.

Speaker 2 Okay, go ahead. Oh, gosh.

Speaker 1 Favorite, favorite memories. The two that come to mind.
I've probably said them before, but

Speaker 1 one is my parents went away on vacation somewhere and they left us alone. And it was the year that Phantom Menace came out.
So, what is that, 2000 maybe? 99?

Speaker 2 Thomas. Why would any of us know that? Yeah, I looked directly at Thomas.
99.

Speaker 1 99. So I was, why can't I do this math?

Speaker 2 12. I was 12.
Okay.

Speaker 1 And my brother was

Speaker 1 16, I guess. And my parents went away for like a, I thought I, I swear I was younger than that.
Anyway, they left us alone for like a week in the hunt.

Speaker 2 Nobody's going to fact check this out. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 And my parents were pretty permissive, but one of their two of their weird rules were you weren't allowed to watch wrestling

Speaker 2 like WWF okay because it could lead to you guys beating the shit out of each other

Speaker 1 and you weren't we weren't allowed to have whipped cream from the can and so

Speaker 2 those were your two rules

Speaker 2 everything else was fair game everything else was those were pretty much like those were two big ones for your childhood I don't know why those

Speaker 1 basically when they cream danger I think they just decided like

Speaker 2 from the can like you can't

Speaker 1 and we couldn't have it in the house they were just like, it's not real food. It's like, you know, we ate tons of not real food.
So like cheese whiz every day.

Speaker 2 I know what happened. What? Your mother loves it so much.
She didn't want it in the house. That

Speaker 2 100%. Oh, my dad.
You didn't have to pay for that. Yeah, sorry to make it sexist.
But like somebody.

Speaker 2 You're right. Yeah.
Somebody was like, I have no controls because it's so weird. It's like,

Speaker 2 no wrestling and also none of those pinwheel lollipops. Yeah.
Exactly. We weren't going to get them.
With whipped cream on top. None of that in the house.

Speaker 2 One of them loved wrestling too much as well.

Speaker 1 Anyway, my parents go away and

Speaker 1 as soon as the taxi pulled away to the airport, wrestling and whipped cream. We ran to the corner store.
We got a can of whipped cream, came back, threw on the wrestling, and it was so joyful.

Speaker 1 And we had the funnest week, just the two of us, doing everything we weren't supposed to do and laughing. We went to see Phantom Menace.
So disappointing.

Speaker 2 But that was great.

Speaker 1 And then also as an adult, he came to visit me in England. And I was just so glad that we made the time to do that.
And we went on this walking tour of a cemetery.

Speaker 1 And my brother's like a deep history buff and was asking such interesting questions. And to see him in public as an adult, like, and he was so confident and everyone was.
fascinated by his questions.

Speaker 1 And I was just like seeing him through the world's eyes, being like, what a wonderful man. Then we were leaving, and we'd walked quite a ways.
And he said, I'm so sorry. I have to go back quickly.

Speaker 1 And he went all the way back and went to our guide and went, Thank you so much. That was a really interesting tour.
I was thank you. He'd forgotten to thank the guide.

Speaker 2 He went all the way back to thank you all. Oh, sure.

Speaker 2 That's

Speaker 2 your two favorites. Yeah.

Speaker 2 What about you guys? I'm trying to think of something with us all together, but I can only think of individual ones.

Speaker 2 My brother Jay, when I lived in Spain, he and my mom came to visit, and that was cool. Like getting to

Speaker 2 like, we traveled Spain and around Spain and France together for like three and a half weeks. Whoa.

Speaker 2 And he

Speaker 2 and I were kind of like the mom and dad, and my mom was kind of the child.

Speaker 2 She's like in the back seat going, look at those orange trees. I'm going to go over there.

Speaker 2 Let's go pick up some rocks. And we're like, well, no, we're always like, no, just sit there.

Speaker 2 Just sit there.

Speaker 2 No, not sit there. No, no, no,

Speaker 2 no, no,

Speaker 2 look at that. Look at that.
So that makes me laugh.

Speaker 2 Because

Speaker 2 we just, and we were staying in the like the cheapest places because we didn't have, you know, none of us were.

Speaker 2 had much money and

Speaker 2 the last night he's like i'm i'm splurging i'm getting us a nice hotel room and uh we it just a lot we just laughed a lot and had a good time and then recently, he and I had kind of, we sometimes butt heads and had, had been butting heads for a while.

Speaker 2 And then

Speaker 2 finally let all that stuff go and

Speaker 2 had a weekend together at my mom's like a couple months ago.

Speaker 2 Where it just felt like we were kids all over again. We had not spent that kind of time together as adults.

Speaker 2 We like went to top golf and went to a movie and went to dinner. And I was just like, it's so nice to be having this kind of experience with my brother, me in my mid-40s and him in his late 40s.

Speaker 2 And then my other brother is my, our oldest brother. He's seven years older than me, so he always kind of took on a dad role.

Speaker 2 And so we had, we used to wrestle a lot when we were kids. With whipped cream?

Speaker 2 No whipped cream. But

Speaker 2 he was such a good guy. Like, he really tried to

Speaker 2 sort of make up where sometimes my parents lacked. And he went to college like two weeks after my parents divorced.
Oh, man.

Speaker 2 And I was 12, and I'm losing my big brother, and my parents are divorcing, and I was just traumatized. Our dog died

Speaker 2 a couple weeks before that. You tend to do things like in chunks.

Speaker 2 Yeah, like everything

Speaker 2 in a deluge.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm like pumped for you to get through this deluge.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and he, you know, my dad traveled a lot back then, so Price would kind of be the one to teach me how to throw a softball or to play soccer with me in the yard and so he was very dad-like so when he was at college i loved to go visit him it felt so cool and his friends were so nice to me well he is a 18 year old boy i'll never forget this had his he made all these wonderful friends who were women like platonically yeah and he would have them write me letters like in the mail, sending me letters when I would like saying like your brother said, you know, your your parents are going through a divorce and you're going through a hard time and we just wanted to check on you and make sure you're okay and you know come visit anytime I would get these letters from his friends and because he asked them to help look out for me and I

Speaker 2 that would always be a memory of of him that I really cherish because I thought what 18 year old boy yeah has that you know type of foresight and that to be like can you make sure my sister's okay that's really

Speaker 2 so interesting because he is not an emotional guy, he's not a hugger, he's not, he does not talk about feelings. So, he uh he had other people facilitate to the women's more into beating, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 Oh, that's so nice, yeah. And he and I used to play like mixed doubles together, like sports were kind of our love language with each other, and so yeah.
But I definitely remember that fondly.

Speaker 2 That's awesome, love that. How about you? Oh, oh, yeah,

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 2 I have to say, you know, I've shared on here just how

Speaker 2 my brother is

Speaker 1 just like,

Speaker 2 I'm seeing such a different side of him.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, since he had this daughter.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 2 You know, he's married. He has his kids.
And I think it's, it's just my.

Speaker 2 My family is very into like ribbing each other and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 It's just so fun to see

Speaker 2 My brother is like a big guy,

Speaker 2 like, yeah, you know, this kind of guy. Yeah.
Collects whiskey. Yeah.

Speaker 2 You know,

Speaker 2 has a

Speaker 2 always has some smelly dog. Look, their dog isn't smelly.

Speaker 2 His old dog wasn't smelling.

Speaker 2 No, the old dog is the one I'm thinking about. But anyway,

Speaker 2 you know, he's the Rolling Stones and whiskey and all that kind of his dog.

Speaker 2 And then just to see, I I his wife reached out to me when their daughter, my niece, was turning one and asked me to come surprise my brother for her first birthday. And

Speaker 2 I would have to say that was one of the best experiences was my brother coming downstairs and I'm sitting there with his wife and kids and he was like

Speaker 2 he had just gotten out of the show. You could tell he really could not comprehend what he was saying.

Speaker 2 He's like,

Speaker 2 what?

Speaker 2 And then, and then just really, you know, I was there when my niece was born, but to come back when she was turning one and to see my brother just

Speaker 2 loving getting her in her little dresses and putting bows in her hair and just like having no, like, you know, he's no shame about it. He's like, he's like, what? Yeah, this is her color.

Speaker 2 She looks great in lilac. And, you know, but

Speaker 2 she looks great in lilac. Yeah.
He's like, what, what you think she doesn't look good and this is her color yeah and i'm like but who are you

Speaker 2 um but yeah that was i think one of the best uh experiences with my brother was seeing him not just as a father but a father to a little girl that's really sweet yeah i really still don't know who he is yeah i really don't because it's probably like your older brother like if you saw him like yeah yeah you know and i call her his little dolly yeah

Speaker 2 I was like I didn't know you needed a little dolly all these years

Speaker 2 I do feel like my that my brother would have been that way too had he had a girl he has a boy but I could see a girl would have brought out that side of him too I think yeah it's it's really

Speaker 2 that whole idea of when you think you know someone yeah I don't know if this is good or bad, but my friends used to always be like, I'm going to have you meet this person.

Speaker 2 I feel like you have a good take on, and I used to believe that about myself. Like, yeah,

Speaker 2 I can read people.

Speaker 2 No, you can't.

Speaker 2 People do curveballs and like become better people or then do horrendous things after decades of knowing them. It's like, I give up.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 but on a positive twist, my brother really surprised me. I loved him.
Yeah. That's great.

Speaker 1 Would you get into trouble together growing up?

Speaker 2 No, my brother was so

Speaker 2 I was I handled all the trouble. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I did all that. You know, my brother was

Speaker 2 he made, he made good grades and was on all the sports teams. And I was really lagging behind and struggling.
Like my brother believed in Santa Claus for so long.

Speaker 2 And I like brought him into my mother's closet and said,

Speaker 2 these are our Christmas presents.

Speaker 2 And he was like, dig, he was like sad and hurt. You know, this magic channel.

Speaker 2 This is my older big brother. You know, you're in your 30s.
And I'm like smoking, you know, going, look, that's yours. These are mine.
There's no Santa.

Speaker 2 You know?

Speaker 2 So,

Speaker 2 no,

Speaker 2 I don't think we really got into trouble. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I handled all that.

Speaker 1 How do your brothers all feel about you doing comedy and stuff? Like, have they, are they in, do they get it? Are they into it?

Speaker 2 My brother listens to this show. He follows.
Oh, shout-out.

Speaker 2 Shout-out.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 I think he follows just even comedy in general more than I do. But he's very into it.
He's a huge Willpower hilarious.

Speaker 2 What?

Speaker 1 More than you do is hilarious.

Speaker 2 Like as far as watching other stand-ups. Yeah, like, yeah.
Yeah, that's nice. Yeah, my brothers are into it too.

Speaker 2 Every story, you know, I talk a lot about my family. So a lot of their friends come up to them because Feemster is obviously a very specific name.
They're like, is that your sister?

Speaker 2 And or people they don't know. And

Speaker 2 they're always asking them if the stories are true. And my brothers are always like, it's very true.

Speaker 2 And so I think they get a kick out of hearing me retell something that they also have experienced.

Speaker 1 It's like you're canonizing the mythology of their childhood too.

Speaker 2 Exactly. So I think they like that.
And then, you know, they're boys, so you know, we don't dig too deep that much.

Speaker 2 And then every now and then,

Speaker 2 you know, my again my oldest brother will be like we are proud of you

Speaker 2 i know we don't say it but we are and we won't say it again we won't say it again yeah and i'll be like oh because you know i for whatever reason as the youngest i i've al I don't know why this has fallen on my lap but I've always kind of had to take care of things uh in my family or at least for a while uh i i it's it maybe more financially and um and just kind of some of my parents' parents' burdens have fallen on me.

Speaker 2 My mom's gonna be like, How dare you? Yeah,

Speaker 2 I don't know how to describe it.

Speaker 2 And as far as

Speaker 2 financial, and so I think I get sometimes into the like, oh, like, why is this always my responsibility? And

Speaker 2 I think I occasionally feel not appreciated. And then my brother will be like, we appreciate you.

Speaker 2 I'm going to stop, stop beating my pillow now yeah well should we hear their answer oh yes please yeah oh yes please yeah yes please please

Speaker 7 what's one of your favorite childhood memories my favorite childhood

Speaker 2 is

Speaker 6 we have been put to bed in our room

Speaker 6 we have the paneling dividing that grandpa built yeah and it's got a little space at the top

Speaker 6 And I would throw the little small square pillow that we had over the top and you would catch it, and you would throw it back to me. And we would have different kinds of events.

Speaker 6 It had to be, one would be the two-hand catch,

Speaker 6 one would be the one-hand catch, one would be the off-hand catch.

Speaker 6 I still remember that to this day.

Speaker 7 Yeah, we had some good times in that divided up room playing our games.

Speaker 6 Well, what's one of your favorite memories?

Speaker 7 One of my favorite sibling memories is Christmas, any Christmas morning. All right.

Speaker 2 Because,

Speaker 7 you know, we live in a small apartment, but the anticipation of Christmas and Santa Claus coming, and our mom used to deck the house out, our little bitty apartment.

Speaker 7 She, I remember the time that she created a makeshift chimney out of corrugated

Speaker 7 paper that looked like a chimney and put it over our radiator because she wanted and dad painted because our dad was an artist and he painted an oil

Speaker 2 a clear fire. Fire.

Speaker 7 And they put a light behind it to make it feel like we had a fireplace and a chimney that Santa Claus could come down.

Speaker 1 But you always got up first

Speaker 7 and you never went out to check for Santa, whether Santa had been there, unless you woke me up and I was ready. And I would remember you saying, Mish, Santa Claus has been here.

Speaker 7 And we'd go out there and start our Christmas.

Speaker 2 So those are some memories. memories.
Great memory.

Speaker 7 Thanks, Handsome.

Speaker 6 See ya.

Speaker 2 Thanks, Michelle and Craig. Thanks, Craig.
I can listen to them tell stories all day long.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Christmas morning is a classic. It's always the kids up first.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I remember one Christmas, my brother and I decided to get up at like three in the morning. Yeah, of course.

Speaker 2 Still dark. Yeah, would you still believe?

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 1 and your parents still awake from the night before?

Speaker 2 Passed out on the couch,

Speaker 2 Trash.

Speaker 2 That was so cool having Michelle and Craig ask a question. So cool.
Thank you.

Speaker 2 She's incredible.

Speaker 2 Craig, I've started, you know, get to know through their podcast. But,

Speaker 2 man, what a lady. Yeah.
What a first lady.

Speaker 1 Yes. What a first lady.

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