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You better take your piss stop and protect your human babies.

Cause Satan is loose.

Oh, yeah.

And remember to be or not to be.

We saw champagne and bullets, so you know what that means.

J-Lynn, big pawn, and the beautiful June.

When they pick you from the boom, all the way to the room.

Ran against the street fighter, helped to pour off steam.

Just a sucker a bunch to eye lights of Tiffany's green.

Shot me for the birthday, how he's staying in line.

They call me on the badass and he's on the line.

Cranking eight for eight minutes cause they cool as ice.

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Hello, people up.

Hello, people of Portland.

We are on our final

tour stop of the beefcake tour.

That's right.

We originally came out on the road as the doppelganger tour, but due to our selection of films, it has become the beefcake tour.

And tonight, well, well, well, we are talking about what some people call the worst movie ever made.

You

might have watched Champagne and Bullets.

You might have watched Road to Revenge.

And some of you might have watched Get Even.

Interesting, a smattering of applause for each one.

Here's what I'll say.

Champagne and Bullets is the version that you probably should watch if you like excessive nudity.

Get Even is the one that you should watch if you like a more violent death of your main bad guy.

Wait, what?

He made it more violent and then towed it down?

Yes.

We'll get into all the nitty-gritty of how each version is different, but let's just break down what this movie is, okay?

okay?

This movie, according to IMDB,

says, two cops are fired after being set up by the corrupt boss, who then gets appointed as a judge, but secretly heads a satanic cult.

After his wife is killed by the cult, one of the cops is determined to bring the cult down.

IMDb does not fuck around with their synopsis.

They just straight out spoil the movie.

The wife gets killed with 20 minutes left of the film.

This movie was self-funded.

This movie was released in 1993.

Reshoots happened

after.

Well again, we'll talk about it.

It's the first time I can tell you though, we found out some information about the director, the writer, the producer, the lead actor, and the musician of the film,

John DeHart from LinkedIn.

Yes, according to LinkedIn, he is the CEO of production company.

He is an actor, he's a singer, he's a writer, he's a producer, he is a licensed attorney.

He is a real estate broker and a building contractor,

and in his own words, good at all of the above.

That is what we know.

He is still alive,

and he does say that he has a script for champagne and bullets, too.

But he won't make it

because you all think it's funny.

And it was made as a serious fucking film.

He also also says he won't make it because Cindy has passed.

So he

does not want to make a movie without her because, you know, then he can't convince somebody else to get naked for 90% of the movie.

It's a very hard job as you get older and older.

I don't know what to say about this movie.

I was afraid of it.

Then I fell in love with it.

And then it's left me with this, like, this, I'm in it.

I'm still in it to this moment.

I'm like, what did I watch?

I don't know.

We're going to break it down here tonight.

But first, let me introduce my co-host.

Please welcome to the stage, Mr.

Jason Manzukis.

What's up, jerks?

Yes, Portland, let's go.

Let's go.

It ends here Tonight!

Last night of the tour!

We'll all be dead before dawn!

Jason, June often says this, and I think about it a lot.

We've been doing this show for a very long time.

A shatteringly long time.

I have never heard of this movie.

Zero knowledge of this dot, dot, dot masterpiece?

I mean,

what did

I watch?

This movie was given to me by Michael Weber,

a great screenwriter, wrote

Disaster Artist?

What?

Yes, Disaster Artist.

Yes.

He's recommended two movies.

He uses his movie selection very sparingly.

Yes, Giorgio, the Pavarotti movie.

Gave us that.

Incredible.

Then right before the tour, he goes, I think I got one for you.

Champagne and Bullets.

I think I got one.

Here's the thing.

Weber, if you're listening, you know you got one for us.

Wow.

This was a gift.

It was the last film that we picked, and we called an audible in the middle of the tour.

Like, fuck it.

Champagne and Bullets is going to Portland.

You're welcome.

You're welcome.

I have never.

This is a pantheon movie for me.

This is one of those ones that I know when I open open my app, my notes are just chaos.

I

absolutely went bonkers for this film

on the flight today.

Oh, I want you.

Because you told me.

It was.

You told me there was nudity in the movie.

I started it on the same flight, and in my head, I said, Paul said there's nudity.

The minute there's nudity, I'll switch it to something else.

Five minutes.

Less than five minutes.

I was like, wow, this movie is incredible.

I need to wait to enjoy it in the comfort of my own hotel room.

It never stopped.

I just fast-forwarded it.

I was like, dink, dink, 10 seconds, 10 seconds.

Like, I hit 10 seconds so many times.

Like, still?

Oh, the bathtub scene is, I believe, 13 minutes long.

Let's get around here.

We got it.

We got it.

We got it.

And now.

Our next co-host, who has been so gracious to join us on this tour.

She is the co-host of the Deep Dive Podcast.

She is the author of a book to help you small talk better.

Please welcome to the stage Jessica St.

Clair.

Hi, guys.

Yeah!

Be careful, you didn't stretch.

Yes!

I will say,

Jess,

knowing that you

were watching this today brought me joy.

Because I was like, I cannot wait just to hear where you're at.

I would love, I would, yeah, I want to know every one of your thoughts about this movie and what you maybe even can imagine its plot is.

This is what I'll tell you.

Paul starts apologizing for this movie about five five days ago.

He's like, oh,

the movie, it's got some weird themes.

And I'm like, what kind of weird themes?

He's like, I'm going to look for a different version for you.

And I'm like, I did send Jess a different version.

He's like, this has a little less skew.

It's funny.

You treat Jess like your dad treated you.

Creating a version of the movie that's safe for her to interact with.

So I'm like, well, surely this version, get even, is got to be nothing, no naughty bits.

What was the original like?

Oh, because this is so fucked up.

Get Even was so fucked up.

Okay, Champagne and Bullets is.

I'm gonna, I didn't watch the version you watched.

I'm gonna guess it's 100 times more fucked up based simply on the absolute insanity that I saw put to cellular.

I have all the differences.

I will just give you this.

So, Champagne and Bullets runs 99 minutes.

Road to Revenge, 75.

Oh, okay.

Get Even, 90.

So I.

I would have rather the other shorter one.

You know, well, the Road to Revenge was hard to find, although some of you found it.

It is.

I mean,

Get Even is the one that most people have watched.

Oh.

Okay, Champagne and Bullets is like the newest version.

I see.

An uncut.

Yes.

What do you mean the newest?

All right, so

this film was originally edited as Champagne and Bullets in 16mm,

but never released.

Okay.

This movie definitely feels like something that would be played at a bachelor party in the 80s.

I guess.

Right?

Unlike the two other cuts, this one contains the full Shakespeare soliloquy.

Holy shit.

What?

I watched that.

Why?

I watched that, and it's it is

inducing it is

wild it also has as Jason already referenced the full bathtub

scene I'm not kidding the bathtub scene is easily 13 minutes but it felt the one that I watched felt like it was 36 hours the movie

I believe that the movie is simply a sales device for an album of absolutely incredible songs oh man the gift the the true gift of this movie are these songs.

Now,

now, Jason, here's what Jess saw that we didn't see.

Okay.

This is the most notorious cut.

It has more comic relief with John's lost soul, Pinky, the black belt poodle.

Okay, wait.

Wait.

There was...

Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on.

There's one

scene with a poodle.

Yep, okay.

Wait, and I did write down, this poodle has more talent than anyone in this film.

Whoa.

This poodle's jumping off the screen.

I mean, really.

Okay, so it also.

But it didn't come back.

No, no poodle.

I didn't see any poodle.

I got a lot of poodle clips.

We can watch.

Had I dissociated?

When I got done watching this movie, I was so fucked up that I was in like a dissociative state.

I ate a giant, a king-size Snickers.

And then I just started scrolling and I searched sorority rush videos on TikTok and I watched it for like an hour and a half and my husband.

Did you think that was the movie?

I thought that was the only thing I thought could like

wash it out.

Offset it or wash it out.

This is the thing.

This movie has invaded our minds.

It changes you.

And it is antibiotic resistant.

We will have this movie

forever.

It's in all of us.

I know.

Well, this is an it follows scenario.

No.

It's just a task here.

Now I will say one other thing.

Get even,

the version that Jess watched, also includes a martial arts sequence that was shot in 2007.

You guys missed.

What?

That's 20 years later?

And what is it?

Wait, yeah, Rick in it?

Okay, yes.

And what is so crazy, what's so crazy is 20 years later, you'd think, oh, has he aged a lot?

He seems just as weak.

Yes.

20 years later, he's just like,

I mean,

he was 49 or 50 years old at the time of filming.

A very cool age.

Yes.

Very cool.

A very cool age.

Very sick.

And even if he was a few years older, that would be cool too.

Yeah, it would be.

Prime of his life.

And he was 65.

for the reshoots.

We can all agree that's gross.

Now, I will also point out that his love of interest was 34 at the time.

Now,

the other thing I will say, and the biggest difference, the biggest difference between champagne and bullets and get even is the end death of the bad guy.

Can I understand something?

Who is releasing these new versions?

Is there anybody asking for it?

I will show you.

It is John DeHart.

John DeHart, there he is.

Divorce quick.

You can can get a quick divorce from him.

He does

everything.

He's a straight-up lawyer.

I have to say, hearing that, I'm like, good for him.

Like, this guy has,

he's got conf, he's got Riz.

He's got Riz.

Well, I do want you to look at this.

When someone tried to troll John DeHart, lawyer,

on his website, this is what you get back.

This is a picture too.

Chad Brooks writes, I once got double-crossed by my boss, who was secretly the head of a satanic cult and they needed some help.

John knew how to handle it.

He's also a great singer.

And John DeHart writes back, profoundly intuitive, Chad.

I love this guy.

He gets it.

He does get it.

He gets it in that he doesn't get it.

And he doesn't give a fuck.

He doesn't give a fuck.

He's tucking that sweat jacket into the sweatpants.

He's drinking.

Everything gets tucked in.

He got married in a white track suit.

What?

That is a man.

You gotta get married.

He's got Riz.

I mean, there's just too many notes.

I do this thing now where I dictate the notes, and it's absolutely.

I'm looking at them.

They are chaos.

Yeah, even if you didn't, I wrote them down.

Mine make no sense.

Oh, I mean, I was writing down so much.

I was like, I think I have to stop at a certain point.

But the opening sequence, when three cops surround

like a small trailer, and they're like, oh, fuck, we're outnumbered.

No, you're not.

Yeah, you're exactly numbered.

They're also wearing silk black jackets that look like they're the pink ladies from Greece that say L-A-P-D.

And they're like, take cover.

They're literally walking in like plain sight up to the

trailer.

They're not hidden at all.

My favorite thing is that their boss, I believe his name is Normad,

their boss is wearing transition lenses on his sunglasses.

The whole movie.

He's wearing them in the courtroom.

And it was shocking because at first you're like, oh, he's a cop.

He's wearing the dark glasses.

And then after

Huck gets shot, regular glasses.

I'm like, oh, I don't want to see this guy's eyes.

My dad has those transition shades, and it really upsets people.

It upsets people to just see you in sunglasses and then not.

Yeah, it's true.

You can't trust a man.

No.

And by the way, great storytelling.

You understand right away, don't trust Kyana.

Trustworthy, untrustworthy.

And yet somehow he becomes a judge.

A judge.

What is that trust?

Well, obviously, John DeHart.

Oh, he must know.

He did it.

I mean, he became from actor to lawyer.

I believe that he could become a judge, right?

I believe he was a lawyer who became an actor.

And then stayed a lawyer.

And I love that she's, when Cindy comes back, Cindy, right?

Cindy.

When Cindy comes back, she's like, are you still an actor?

And he said, I'm trying to audition.

I'm like, still?

He's acting as if he's like 29 in the movie.

He is a police.

There's one line in the movie where Cindy goes back to her parents, tells the parents about her reject her because she's been in a satanic cult.

And, you know, and she's like, you know, like, I'm not letting that guy in there.

And he goes, Dad, he was a cop, and now he drives a limo.

I'm like, that's not.

That's a bad trajectory.

I just want to get this out straight away right now.

Cindy is part of a cult that kills a human baby.

There is no coming back from that.

But he keeps saying to her,

don't worry.

It's fine.

We're going to work on it.

Okay.

You'll get past it.

You can't get past it.

He doesn't register an ounce of shock.

He has no reaction to it.

And you see it in flashback, and then she goes a human a human baby also the movie doesn't understand film language at all we see the whole thing in flashback we know it's a human baby the movie doesn't act like that's her telling him she tells him that story out loud when we come back from the flashback i was like that's not how we do this

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Let's take a look at the devil worship scene.

This really did haunt me.

It makes me feel so crazy.

About the other night,

those guys in the bar.

He loves a hard talk.

Devil worshipers.

The crowd I got into,

they started getting involved in a coven.

I just kind of fell into it

now.

That's acting.

I just love her to put on a bra.

You want to put her in a bra?

I do.

Interesting.

I need her in something a little more supportive.

Oh, there's that baby.

We need to find that child.

Go with Satan.

This isn't right.

Who put their baby in this movie?

I wish I could hold that baby.

I'll save you.

I love that the altar just has 666.

Yeah.

Very, very much like, oh, we went to Party City, got some 666.

The upside-down.

Oh, I guess it's an upside-down cross.

All right, so there it is.

All right, so this is the satanic cult.

And I will say that Cindy does jump out and say, stop.

That's a good thing.

That's very late after this.

Very low.

She waits for that baby to get all the way to the altar before she says anything.

She's part of this infanticide full stop.

100%.

And you don't bounce back from it.

By the way,

you said, like,

you know,

who might put their baby up for this role?

Like, hey, we're casting for a baby to be murdered.

And somebody's like, oh, we'll give it to John.

He's a good lawyer.

We'll give him our baby.

I'll tell you one person he didn't.

cast as his love interest, which is his girlfriend.

Who was his girlfriend?

The nun.

And

God bless

and John and John did say

John did say

that

when she saw the bathtub scene she broke up with him

she doesn't even know it's in there she had to see what the, I mean, like, I did it.

What?

Respect.

Yeah, so, you know, look.

Wow, and that poor nun, she was as bad as actor as he was.

Oh, I mean, that was a rust movie.

If not worse, that was a rust.

But you know what?

It makes sense because you're thinking to yourself, Jesus, why is this nun even in this movie?

And why are they giving us such a long scene with her?

When the nun goes, but you have to drive me back to the hospital.

Why?

He's at his dead wife's grave.

He said,

I'd rather spend a little time with him.

Well, she's bringing him to see.

Spoiler alert, his dead wife is alive.

How humiliating is that?

Oh, man.

She has to deliver her boyfriend to Cindy in those boobs.

Yes.

Not knowing that they just earlier that morning shot a 16-hour

soap fest.

Oh, my God.

She, okay, you got.

Here's a little PSA for everybody.

You can't fuck in water like that that's full of that soapy shit.

That pH she's gonna get.

She's getting a UTI that's gonna last a month.

Big time.

My guy, you're an idiot.

Big time.

Now I will say,

who came up with the plan to fake Cindy's death?

Was it the EMT drivers?

Yes.

Yes, she says she woke up in the ambulance and they take her away to protect her life so that the bad guys in the satanic cult think she's dead.

Think she's dead.

But now maybe.

he was working behind the scenes to help protect her we never really

wouldn't tell me they wouldn't they wouldn't let me tell you and he did no research himself that means he never identified her body nope as her husband that's a given yeah uh like he went through a lot by the way this whole movie probably takes place in eight days

Yeah, he meets his ex-girlfriend.

And he has like easily 14 all-leather outfits in the course of that eight days.

at least

I mean I just want to get I want to get into all of it we haven't talked we haven't any of it talked about Huck Finley at all which is to be honest that

character disturbed me more that character I felt like that that is the point of view character for the movie.

Yes.

It felt to me like the movie only makes sense if it's taking place in his mind.

Agreed.

In his broken, broken mind.

And I felt like, I don't know if the actor was losing his mind throughout the filming, but it felt there was a lot of improv going on.

A lot.

He was taking it moment to moment.

I felt like he thought he was in a David Mammet play.

I think he thought he was Dennis Hopper in the apocalypse now.

Yes.

I mean, there are moments when John is watching him and it looks like he's smiling like, oh, this is going to be good.

Like that whole scene where he's like, you don't know Hamlet?

You don't know Hamlet?

And John's like,

who are you?

And then he's like, I'm so mad at you.

I'm like, tell him the thing that Hamlet wrote.

What?

By the way, the fact that John DeHart is auditioning with his to be or not-to-be monologue, which has a cut in it, right?

One of the benefits of that monologue is no cutting, right?

Like, well, also, the cut is to just a slightly different angle of himself.

The movie foundationally doesn't understand the idea of coverage.

So there are multiple scenes in which the person talking isn't shown because they've not shot that person.

Like in the waiter, when the waiter comes, they're having a whole conversation with somebody you never seen.

What about the scene?

What about the scene where in the foreground, all you hear is someone pushing phone buttons?

As if someone's holding up a receiver to the microphone.

There's so many, the mix is so crazy in this movie.

The foregrounded stuff is always the soundtrack.

Yes.

And the ambient Foley work, the crunching

chewing.

I don't know if it's Foley work either, like the fountain, which I also had a feeling that they shot all of this in like a sad apartment building, like an empty apartment building.

Every

Mexican restaurant, and then they just put a fountain in there.

You're telling me a judge, his office is a windowless,

artless, nothing of a box.

I believe that every room in John's house was used for this movie.

Yeah.

I mean, that bar is not a bar.

That is his garage, and he clearly collects video games.

Yes.

Because that's 1993.

He's got old-ass video games.

You never see the other side of the bar.

And then later on, when they're at another place, I'm like, oh, that's just the bar.

That's what it.

Yeah.

Can we talk about why...

First of all, that they're wearing cowboy outfits because I'm

anxious, and I don't see anybody say, I'm fixing to have you a drink or get you a drink.

By the way, when they revealed that there was LA, I was like, huh?

I was, I found it, I found it thrilling.

It was.

I found it thrilling to be like, why are they doing cowboy shit?

And then when everybody in the bar begs him to sing,

and then he sings, I'm going to say a seven-minute song.

And I'm not kidding.

He looked with panic in his eyes.

He looks like deliverance a performance that is transcendent, that is better than Whitney Houston singing of the national anthem.

It's absolutely transporting.

And his neck and his head are moving as one column.

He's so uncomfortable.

I've never met it, seen a man more uncomfortable in his own body.

And it's clearly a song that he has written, that he knows the words to, but it feels like someone's like, if you fuck up one word of this song that you don't know any of the words to, we will kill a human baby.

This was the moment.

This was the moment where I most felt like this was a Will Forte character.

Yes, yes.

Like, this is some sort of cutscene from Magruber, right?

Yes.

Let's watch clip one, the shimmy shimmy shake.

Wow.

Or, sorry, the shimmy slide.

The shimmy slide.

Okay.

Cindy's mom is also an unspeakable.

Okay, can we pause for a second?

Can we pause for a second?

Cindy's mom wears that outfit only.

She wears that outfit to her daughter's funeral, I believe.

Also, who goes to a bar where there's just full nudity women dancing with their mom on their daughter?

Wait, hold on, but wait.

She was a child there?

Hold on.

Just think about when you hear the shimmy slide, you want to take off all your clothes.

Yeah, like that's

that is a song that makes you go hot.

Now, this mom has my best, my one of my favorite lines of the whole movie.

She goes, She's love, I'll be right back.

I got a lot of things going on, yeah,

and you know, she's just gonna come right back in in 35 seconds.

I believe her, though, I believe she's fucking busy.

Yeah, she's what has she got going on?

All right, so here is the shimmy slide.

Here we go,

different location,

goblet of wine, too big.

Oh my god.

I mean this leather is next level.

That fireplace is in his living room.

Yeah, yes.

Totally.

Yes.

He's so scared.

It's his movie.

He's so scared to be in his own booby in his mind.

This was going to be the like Ghostbusters.

We're going to call.

Like this was going to be the scene.

Oh yeah.

And they have a whole dance that goes with it.

It was going to sweep the nation.

By the way, the song is a banger.

The song, I mean, I would kill for somebody to do a cover of this.

Please walk Larone to do a cover of this song.

He is mystified that the Shimmy slide did not become a huge hit.

He has said that.

No, but

the joke is on us.

Yes.

Because on YouTube, people are obsessed with the Shimmy slide.

He has won.

He hath won.

As he should.

Yes, I agree.

As he should.

This is what we deserve, America.

We did this to ourselves.

Right?

This whole tour has been somehow about the manosphere, I believe, and toxic masculinity.

I do want to bring up this thing, because this is great.

During this scene...

John is fucked up on pain beds because his back was so seized up.

It was actually fucked throughout of most of production.

That makes sense why he can't move.

I get it.

Now I feel bad.

As someone who has also experienced lower back pain, I understand.

So now I feel bad.

But no, but I mean, then don't shoot this.

He looks like he is fucked up on pain meds.

Like that.

Like, of course he's scared out of his mind.

He doesn't know where he is.

And he's directing himself.

I gotta get, I'm making this movie.

You're directing it, right?

No, you're acting it.

What?

Red dot's about to appear on his forehead.

Yeah.

I just imagine him, like, I imagine him waking up.

I said, John, you gotta get the set.

What?

Set?

I'm a lawyer.

No, you're directing a movie.

No, you have to go to set downstairs.

Yeah, set.

You have to go to set down in the basement.

Craft service is already set up, John.

Get up.

Well, at least I'm only directing it.

No, no, you're acting in it, too.

No, wait, what?

At least I'm not singing all the songs.

You are singing all the songs.

In real time.

I honestly would believe that they had a boombox playing the soundtrack while they acted.

100% yes.

And the performances are better for it.

I will fuck to this soundtrack.

Mark my words, Portland.

And I want you to too.

Tonight.

I demand that Portland fuck to this music.

Now, Jason, though, when you fuck, when you finish fucking, you always say, adiosi, Bella Lugosi.

Yep, I do.

I do.

I.

Can I just do another one?

Cindy, your eyes are, they're incredible.

They're still the most beautiful eyes I've ever seen.

Still?

Still?

I haven't seen more beautiful.

Every one of his lines are so weird.

They're so weird.

When he says, the pleasure is all mine at the end of a scene, that's not been the setup.

It's wild.

All I want to talk about is the court scene in the beginning

when these two guys are getting framed as drug addicts.

There are words in here that I'm shocked by.

The Normand or Normad, when Normad says

they were in front of a panderer's vehicle with a myriad of paint on it.

What?

I believe that's like a van that's got like some artists.

Just say it's got a

Buffalo Bill van vibe.

And then again,

well, we found out on this tour that Jess is afraid of Sound Solam.

So do not.

Specifically, that voice is apparently quite triggering.

We did this.

We already did this.

On Gond.org.

It came up organically.

No, it didn't.

It came up organically.

Don't bring it back.

It came up organically.

Now,

the way that Normad describes them as drug addicts, he's like, I saw him take his left hand

and push it on his nostril, and then the right hand held the he created a miniature straw.

Yes, out of a matchbook.

He rolled a matchbook.

He sniff up the drugs.

Why did we have to hear that monologue?

I mean, it was a monologue of like the slowest details.

It was like it was as if this movie was for the visually impaired, but it was like it was like, oh, he's walk, this is wonderful.

He's walking us through the scene.

But we don't need all that because he's testifying about cops to cops.

That all know what doing drugs are.

Yes, so there's no, it makes no sense and thank God, right?

And I'm going to say this, in the first 15 or so minutes, I must have checked the runtime 10 times, right?

And was like, it's only been five minutes.

It's only been 10 minutes.

Yes.

And then this happened, and for the rest of the movie, I was like, I'm in, baby.

When they bail Huck Finn out, and that whole scene unfolds, and then our guy, Rick, tags it with, here's a quarter, buy yourself a personality.

I was like,

I'm in.

I don't know why.

And the rest of the movie sailed by.

Yeah.

I was.

Beth clip two.

just let's watch that for a second

sign right here ma'am

now looks he's thinking about how he's gonna say it's like ma'am

now here's huck finally i just want to say one thing

from a personal observation that the accommodations here they uh i don't know they just suck just i feel really uncomfortable around

the street oh

here's a quarter buy yourself a personality

And then they just hang on the back of the

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Huck, I do want to get back to Huck because Huck to me is such a wild card.

He talks to a Native American statue

that is with him at each of his locations.

It's at home with him.

It's outside with him.

It's wherever he is.

That statue or whatever is with him.

I was shot, and he's talking.

He is

from the, at first we're like, okay, he's upset that Normad has framed him.

Sure.

That's why he's a live wire.

But then we realize, oh, he's not a live wire.

He's upset, I think, because

Normad first got him shot.

Right.

He didn't care because they didn't cover him, although they were just in a field.

There was no way, honestly, justice for normad because what could he do justice for the guy that killed a baby

what are you talking this is a satanist who murdered a baby this is how we got trump

this is how we got a second trump

because you're rooting for norman

Normad hey look when you run a satanic church you gotta do some stuff

I guess it is and and if and it provides community but

But yeah, he's pissed at Normad Fine.

But then what we're realizing is he

has a, it is like the heart of darkness.

He's starting to lose it.

He thinks everyone nailed his wife.

When he says that

everybody, my wife is banging all my friends.

I'm like, first of all, you're married?

That has not been established.

Nor we haven't.

It's hard to like.

I'm not rooting for this guy at all.

He belongs in jail.

Yeah.

No,

he belongs in an insane asylum.

And his scene with Alex

is his ex-wife.

I thought she was fantastic.

She was great.

She's doing phenomenal beat to moment to moment work.

And I do feel like I have a feeling that John had them all over to kind of workshop some of these scenes before they, because they really felt like lived in.

Yes.

Do you know what I mean?

Oh, yeah.

It felt like they were really living with these characters.

Yeah, really living with the characters.

Daniel Day-Lewis becoming a cobbler.

Right.

But why do we have to cut in the middle of that fight to just a TV screen with static on it?

And, like, also,

either she's standing in front of the TV or what, but there's shadow puppets on his face through the entire thing.

Yeah.

The lighting of it, they would just set a light up and then just fucking let it rip.

Yep.

Oh, yeah.

Just one light.

Well, I mean, look,

I think they have one microphone, too, because when the judge who is kicking them off of the force, he's mic'd when the camera's on him,

but when they're on the other ones, he is not mic'd.

So they didn't either,

did they not shoot both sides?

I don't understand.

Man, he could not do any coverage, either audio or video, whatsoever.

The same thing happens with Benny, the waiter at the restaurant.

Yeah, poor Benny.

Wow.

Well, this is what I love about this, and I guess you can compare this movie to

The Room, right?

Tommy Wizzo.

And I think what I love love about movies like this is it does also show how these men view themselves.

Like, oh, I'm the guy they love when I tell jokes.

Women want to follow me.

The two jokes he tells in the restaurant are so disturbing.

I wrote it down.

I mean, well, we have the scene.

I mean, why not?

This is a movie that we got to play scenes on.

Clip three.

I got a position joke.

This is for sure shot in his breakfast nook in his house in Marina Del Rey.

The doctor says, hey, you got a disrobe.

She says, I'm very shy.

Can we turn the lights off?

He says, okay, he turns the lights off.

She takes her clothes off and she says, doctor, where should I put them?

He says, right over here on top of my...

I love that he referred to that in the setup as a position joke.

I've got a position joke for you.

What?

This guy with a duck.

I don't think we classify jokes like that.

Can I help you?

The duck says, yeah, get this guy off my ass.

And then she has to laugh at it.

You almost have a good joke.

Look at it.

She deserves an Academy Award.

She does.

I'm not kidding.

She's amazing because she looks like she is in love with him.

Here's what I love.

After he tells that doctor joke, and I think it's after he tells the one about the duck, he goes, quite a profession.

Incredible.

Doctor's quite a profession.

He's got throwaway lines like that throughout that architecture.

Like quite a professional.

It's like, well, you know,

it is a true story.

Quite a profession.

Here's the other one that he has that I was like,

scrambled my brain.

He goes, how about we drink to new beginnings?

Let's hope they never end.

Wait a minute.

What?

Now hang on.

I really want to examine that.

Let's hope new beginnings never end.

They have to.

I think that if to be successful at this,

the beginning can't be persistent.

Well, but here's what I think.

Midway through the movie, I wrote down: this isn't an action movie, this is a romance.

Yes,

this is a straight love story.

Yes, it is.

And you know, now I'm thinking about it, I actually think this pairing makes sense.

Because if you are somebody who participated, even unwillingly, in the murder of a baby,

who is gonna take you in

and accept you for the moment?

Not only take you in and accept you, but take you in and accept accept you immediately.

Right.

Is a guy like this.

This guy, he is unphased when she says that they killed a human baby.

Right.

So in a lot of ways, this May December romance makes a lot of sense.

Yeah.

I was laughing at the guy named Scar.

And I'll tell you why.

You know, one guy's named Snake, the other guy's named Scar.

Now, I assume that Scar got the scar because he's a bad guy.

He's in some stuff.

When do you make that transition of the name?

That's what I kept on thinking about.

When do you become Scar?

Is it like he was Ralph?

He was Scar.

Well, but I'm saying, was he Ralph until that one bad fight?

And then you used to go like, don't call me Ralph anymore.

I don't know why I went down.

This movie opened my brain to thoughts I've never really had.

It's like doing acid.

I really feel like we all did ketamine.

Yes.

And we're seeing and making connections that we weren't able to before.

I think it's interesting, and what you're getting at is that every single character could be the lead of this movie, including Scar, including Sideburn's guy.

Well, I did do some research on Scar

and I found out that he did do double duty as wardrobe.

Incredible.

So he sourced all the leather.

He also felt like, because scene to scene, his scar is a little different.

And I feel like, so like, someone handed him like, an eyeliner and said, have at it, you know, just try to make it like last night, you know.

But sometimes it's, you know.

Well, these guys, I mean, these guys are...

The other thing I like about this movie, too, is like, these guys, everyone's drinking a beer.

Always.

Always.

They're men.

That's what men do.

Even the little kid at the strip club is drinking a beer.

That little kid who calls, who narks on the strip club, first of all, it's an arcade bar.

Why?

Why do they start stripping?

Rick sings an eight-minute country western song and then a woman comes out and strips.

Now there's a child who's been drinking a beer

and the child

drinking a beer is outraged at the strip club.

As she should be.

But doesn't her mom borrow the phone and calls the cops?

And doesn't her mom say, well, I've seen worse stuff in your bedroom.

Yes.

Like, what?

Yes.

What is this?

What is this movie?

By the way,

it reminds me that

John DeHart, when he comes into that bar scene, that woman leaves, because I got a lot of stuff going on, she leaves her beer there, and he just takes a sip of her beer

before his is brought to him by Huck, who says, beer friend, beer friend.

Like, that's the other thing.

Huck is doing, like we said, improv out the ass, and I kind of love it.

Oh, he's giving a performance that is at least keeping us, like, off balance and guessing.

Because Rick is he's his character is stoic.

I I think he thinks he's doing like a Clint Eastwood type of dirty hairy kind of guy

but when in the this whole scene leads up to the the he sings the song it's the strip club the kid calls the cops the bad guys show up they try and capture and kidnap um

cindy and huck and rick beat the shit out of the guys clumsily like a six flags stunt show it's like worse fat man forever live every day every 45 minutes They don't make any contact with the other person's body the amount of women who are slapped Should have upset me, but it didn't because they're never hurt.

They're just like slap Don't do that slap.

I said I love you slap

I Mean they say the word bitch in this movie all the time

We get at this point afterwards to the first Rick and Cindy sex scene, which I just want to read my stream of consciousness reaction to.

Okay?

This is how it occurred to me in the room earlier today, talking into my phone while watching.

Okay.

The first thing is it says, please tell me there's a soundtrack for this on an app.

Okay, next.

They are in real time undressing each other clumsily.

She's biting his shoulder.

Does his shirt never come off?

He's doing the ice cube down the right leg thing, seduction thing.

Oh, wait a minute.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

What is this movie question mark?

Now it's like a Cinemax movie question mark, but worse, dot, dot, dot, somehow, dot, dot, dot, inexplicably?

That's what I that's me.

Imagine you're in the room next door

and you hear me screaming these words, stoned in my hotel room.

poor poor Cindy watching her come in for a kiss she did something I've never seen on screen before which is open her mouth she comes for like oh yeah like Pac-Man yes she fucking Pac-Man

ready for it

she is

it is a wide

it's a wide berth

but I will say she doesn't seem like whatever they have like I feel like.

I don't see the disgust that we should see.

Right, exactly.

So either they did have some chemistry, which is disgusting,

or she's the best actress in the world.

Either way, justice to Cindy, she's fabulous.

By the way, I just saw in my notes after giving him all this props for the Shimmy slide.

He didn't write it.

Who did?

Is it a cover?

He said he bought the rights to it and put his voice on it.

So maybe he really didn't know the lyrics.

I love it.

I love it.

Absolutely fantastic.

This movie's, I really, I can't, I'm jumping ahead so much, but I can't recommend this movie enough because so much of what we are talking about, so many of the scenes are undone by music that is so present, so forward in the Huck and his ex-wife scene.

It is as if someone has opened up the drum option in a Casio keyboard and is just doing this.

It is abject chaos on the soundtrack in a way that is so crazy and wild that I would believe if an eighth grader had made it, you know?

It felt

because we all got one of those keyboards

for an eighth, you know,

your mother would be like, shut the fuck up.

And it's like,

symbol, symbol, simple, bongo, bungo, bongo, bongo, bongo, symbol, symbol, symbol, symbol, bongo, bongo, bungo, hi-hat, hi-hat, hi-hat, bass drum, snare drum, bongo, bongo, bong, bongo.

That's what it is.

The whole, we'll have them put it in right now so that you can hear it while you're listening to the podcast, how intrusive and competitive it is to have this level of nonsense drumming happening.

I love that scene because he goes, you didn't care when you were at the Beverly Center, which is like a mid-tier mall.

It's a grow small.

It's a grow small mall.

Oh, yeah.

While you were at the Nordstrom Rat.

Yeah.

It's like buying all that stuff.

I'm like, on a cop's salary?

Well, if his buddy moves out and all that is left is that futon.

Yeah.

And that one TV.

Also.

That's all he has.

Also, these guys, imagine a world.

Again, I think this movie imagines that these are younger people.

Imagine a world in which two men in their 60s are roommates after having been cops for only seven years.

So that means Rick became a cop when he was in his 40s.

Which is hard to do just to pass the physical risk.

Yeah, man.

Hang on.

Somebody could do it, I bet.

He's not running around.

He's not running too fast.

I mean, I bet if you like worked at it,

he could probably do it.

It's such a wild,

it's a wild turn of events because the fact that that guy becomes a judge, as if that's the trajectory of cops.

It's like, you kiss the boss's ass, you'll become a judge.

Yeah.

I loved it.

I loved it.

And it's also absolutely clear that when he's a judge, his judges' robes are the priest's robes

from the funeral.

Okay.

And the wedding.

Because I thought, is that like when they cut your hair?

They put a robe, like a, maybe they ran over to the spries.

So no, I I believe it's so tight.

Yes, it is.

It's because it's tight around the collar like that.

It's tight.

You can't afford a judge's robe.

And yet

he was going to preside over the trial of Huck.

We had a trial in this movie.

Huck goes to jail.

Twice.

Huck goes to jail twice.

And when he's there, drinks all the fucking cleaning fluid.

Bleach!

Bleach!

Rick says, you did the bleach thing.

And then he goes, you did that bleach thing.

What?

Survive that?

You can't.

Huck is in rough shape.

And then because of this, he is just free?

Because he attempts to unalive himself, he becomes free.

And he's allowed to just smoke in his bed.

He gets to go home.

He's cool.

His voice is

Yeah.

Are you leaving?

I wasn't going to get us.

I was going to go out here.

It's been a long week.

Can we get house lights, please?

Can we get full

house lights?

Woo!

I realize I never go to the front row for questions, but I see you have a great notebook full of very nice handwriting.

All right, what's your name?

Elaine.

Okay, and what's her question?

Okay, I want to go back to the henchman scar with that.

Yes.

Yes, with his map, with his eyeliner scar.

So this movie came out in 1993.

The Lion King came out in 1994.

Wow.

I love this.

I love this.

Wow, making connections.

See what I mean?

We're all on ketamine.

We're making connections.

I would love it.

We're seeing the Clockwork Elves.

This is Carl Jung's collective unconscious.

Yes,

okay.

So, yeah.

Do you think that Scar was, Scar from Lion King was inspired by Scar from

100%.

Absolutely, yes.

And I believe John, what's his name, has a great.

I would believe he would have sued Disney by now.

If there was any truth to that.

But you could see the animators at Pixar getting a copy of this somehow.

Yeah.

I love it.

All right.

Yes.

Your name, your question.

My name is Amelia.

Why was every woman in the wedding scene wearing a white dress?

Great question.

I believe that they were like, we're not sure who's going to get married, so everybody wear a wedding dress.

Or Scar, who did wardrobe, showed up with just all wedding dresses.

And they were like, he was like, I didn't get, I didn't understand the assignment.

John, you didn't call me back.

You took those pills and then you went to sleep and nobody let me know what we needed for the day.

I blame

Scar.

Scar should have gotten everybody different outfits.

Yes, your name, your question.

Well, actually, my name's Rodney.

Looking at the hat, I'm surprised the hats haven't come up yet.

So they're just black hats from like a truck stop that they colored over with the magic marker, right?

Yeah.

You're right.

They definitely are.

Again, that's Scar doing a lot with a little.

Yeah, I'm sure he was given zero dollars, except for, I think he had a pretty sizable leather budget.

Yeah!

But also flexible leather, like track pants.

Like a pleather.

Yeah, yeah pleather well he's got he vacillates between like a sweatsuit type of look always tucked in and just top to bottom leather but not in a leather daddy kind of way in like a blousy leather 80s kind of way keep it loose everyone wants to see their leather loose it feels like all of it is is was a it is like from a woman's closet in aspen in 1987 absolutely that's where all of this the weather came from.

Everything came from an estate stale.

Yes.

Yes, your name, your

name is Jenna.

Did John DeHart sleep with Huck's wife?

Because methinks he doth protest too much.

Oh!

Is that Hamlet's writing?

Are you quoting Hamlet's writing?

Wonderful callback.

I really don't think, I really believe that he is a stand-up guy.

I do too.

And a good friend, but his friend is clearly having a nervous breakdown, and he can't shut up about those fucking wedding plans.

Not only.

He shows up, and his friend is clearly lost his mind.

He is having a psychotic break, and he's like, hope to see you on Sunday.

Even before that, even before that, he's like, how come you can't be happy for me that Cindy and I are back together?

Yet.

And I was like, my dude, Huck is losing his mind.

He's having his hair dyed his hair.

He drank bleach.

Yes, he drank bleach.

That's a cry for help.

He has dyed his hair.

He is in a pool with women in bikinis talking about him.

And he says Israelites in a way that I've never heard it said.

Israeliites.

He says Israeliites.

Israeliites.

What's up with the...

Why is their hair dyed red?

Why?

Because Huck Finn.

Oh, because of Huck Finn?

Yeah.

The whole thing.

I felt like that was his pitch.

That was that actor.

Was like, what if it's a whole Huck Finn thing?

Well, get ready, Jason.

Oh, boy.

Because John was fucked up on pain pills.

He was not able to be at that pool scene.

Oh, no.

And didn't know what that scene was until he saw it in the dailies and said he was quite surprised.

Incredible.

That's incredible.

It's so good.

Everything you're telling us, Paul, is so, so good.

I'm now thinking that actor who's done all this work, but he's probably been like, you know, more supporting roles, this was his chance to flex his dramatic muscles.

Everyone here is making an acting reel.

Yeah.

Like, they're all like, this is going to get me to the next level.

Yeah.

And you know what?

They were right.

Your name?

Alex.

Your question?

I wanted to know if you noticed at the end of the

end of the scene where they're having sex after the wedding, he puts like a champagne glass on a side table,

but he's is fumbling around and then his hand grabs it.

Say it again.

Yeah, so a hand grabs the champagne.

You see the hand.

How many times do you think he dropped the champagne?

He said, fuck it.

I'm going to grab it.

So

he went to go put it on a side table, but then somebody grabs it before he puts it down.

So it's like something.

This is like my favorite.

A random hand?

Yeah.

No.

Another person's hand comes in?

My friend was an AD, worked on Lifetime movies, worked with a very famous actress, and every time they would say cut, she would drop whatever she was holding in her hand.

That's a diva move.

Yeah.

And so they always had to make sure that they didn't call cut until something was down or they had someone underneath her with like a blanket

to catch the things.

Like a big pool net?

Yeah, like and

and i do feel like that's like you're right i think that glass broke many times by the way we didn't talk about the strip scene on the night of the wedding incredible incredible stuff the whole wedding is crazy i mean i i could talk about that forever i could talk the bathtub scene is deserving of at least an hour of our time

portland

first of all is that his bathtub his real bathtub?

And why is it a nautical theme?

Yeah.

Why is there a genuine nautical theme?

There's like a fishing net behind him on the wall and all this crap.

Also, he keeps trying to feed her champagne from a glass awkwardly.

There's a second glass there.

Pour her her own champagne.

I am in the lower balcony.

What do you have?

What's your name?

What's your question?

Christina.

It's more of a comment about Normad.

I read an interview with John DeHart where they asked him what's up with the name Normad.

And he said it was a typo, that it was meant to be Norman.

Amazing.

Amazing.

What the fuck?

Incredible.

Stuff.

They couldn't afford the whiteout to make the fix.

All right, yes, your name, your question.

I'm Scott.

So did you notice that when Huck was ironing his jeans, he put Budweiser on them to get the creases out.

What?

That's a good tip.

And why?

You got to do that, especially if it's raw denim.

If it's Japanese salvage denim, you got to soak it in beer.

If you are two men in your 60s living together, you don't want to come home and see your bro pantsless ironing.

Like that's every night for them.

He's just pantsless.

By the way, I will say beer on jeans.

I'm sure you can find a TikTok that tells you to do that.

Oh, I do.

You gotta use.

You shouldn't be washing your denim.

You should just be soaking it in a hoppy IPA.

Yes, your name, your question.

Ryan, less of a question, more, you guys missed out on Winghauser's greatest credit, which is that he's Kohlhauser's father.

Oh, wow!

And that's why he looks right.

Because I was thinking about that.

I was like, yes, you have a yes.

Also, his de-escalation method when in with his ex-wife is fitting her face.

That's tough.

Well, you know what?

She was asking for that alimony.

I mean, by the way, how about that?

What about when she has her boobs out and she said it, and you never knew what to do with it?

Yes.

What is what she says?

That is what she says.

When she rips her own shirt off to frame him.

I don't know.

You never knew what to do with these either.

I will say that rang false to me.

What?

You feel like you're a bad person.

I don't know if women are like, you don't know how to use my breath.

You don't know how to use these.

You know what?

Every woman wants her boobs to be used in the right way.

It's what we dream of as little girls.

Someday someone, a man's going to come along and know how to use these and show me how to do it.

And you spend all that time being like, oh, I can't wait till I have usable boobs.

I can't wait till I've got usable boobs.

Who's got the question?

So you guys didn't talk about one of my favorite lines of the movie.

And he uses it a few times.

So I think he wanted it to be the catchphrase.

In the bar, someone says, ready to get hurt?

And our hero says,

not a problem.

Yeah.

Yeah, and he says that about hell.

I'll see you in hell.

And he says, not a problem.

What does that mean?

Yeah.

What does that mean?

I will be in hell and I'm cool with it.

Not a problem.

I'll get there.

I'll get there when I'm good and damn ready.

He's cool in all situations.

He is.

Back row of the balcony.

Last row, first row.

Wait.

Are they also wearing costumes?

What?

Nothing.

Go ahead.

Great costumes.

Great costumes up here.

We got some great costumes.

All right.

Who's going to ask a question?

Hi.

Such a pleasure.

Was I the only one?

So, first, I listened to the end of a little bit of a director's commentary on the film.

I don't know if you were aware of this.

No.

He talks about how he's such a method actor,

the whole history of theater, which makes me wonder: was he actually falling asleep in the bathtub scene when Cindy was earning like Academy Award after Academy Award?

I think what we can take away from this movie is back meds are fucking serious.

I loved it.

I loved it

in multiple scenes.

He's kind of like.

Like, they're just like, John, John, don't go under the water.

John, John,

Josh, under the water.

12-hour days are a bitch.

All right.

Another back row.

Gentlemen, how are you?

What's your name?

Hi, I'm Garrett.

Two things.

Wings Hauser actually passed away on March 15th.

Oh.

And then I know none of you are necessarily financial advisors.

How do you know that?

John

could have a lot of things.

You could have a lot of things, too.

How do you know that?

In this tumultuous economy, do you recommend taking my gas bill, my electric bill, my landlord, shooting it, and then flushing it down the toilet?

Yes!

Yes!

Do it!

That is efficiency at work.

Yes.

We are getting efficient in this government, and we got to shoot all of our bills.

It was the tiniest gun, too.

Oh, it was like a tiny little dairy.

It wasn't working.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but when a gun clicks and nothing comes out, we're out of bullets.

Ibogo clicks.

Wait, what are you saying?

What have you heard?

But it felt like there was a malfunction in this toy gun.

Yes, because it probably only has two bullets in it.

And he has like a bunch of shit.

He's got too many bills.

He has so many bills.

Thank God he expended all the bullets on those bills because when his ex-wife came over, he would have shot her.

Now,

we talked about did, you know, maybe Pixar see this film and title one of their characters, Scar.

But he did say this is supposed to be a surrealist movie.

All right?

It was shot a year before pulp fiction, and he believes it's kind of the inspiration for pulp fiction.

What?

Because, of course.

I see, we all see it.

He also says,

but really, where he takes inspiration is from Clockwork Orange.

Of course, we all see that.

This is Kubrickian in its intensity and its

scintillating analysis of violence.

The government killed Kennedy.

That's what's hidden in this movie.

All the clues are there.

Just like Kubrick's The Shining said that we faked the moon landing, this showed that we killed Kennedy.

Here's the rub.

The movie is based on a true story.

Sean was a limo driver, and one of his routine clients was a young 20-year-old.

One night she started crying and confessed that she had been witness to a satanic cult in Riverside County

where a baby was sacrificed.

No, what are you talking about?

Not wanting to push her for more details, since she was so distraught, he figured he would ask her some other time.

A week after her confession, she was dead.

Whoa!

From a motorcycle accident, which he suspects was homicide.

The police labeled it an accident, but John believed it was deliberate.

So he put out an award for any information.

And that prompted the police to raid his home,

believing he was responsible.

Oh, my God!

So not only does he not solve this murder, he becomes

freed.

He becomes

a person of interest.

And that

is...

Wow.

Wow.

Now, obviously, there are a lot of people out there that have different opinions about this movie, but now it is time for us to hear a second opinion.

Woo!

Is there more soft core porn in this one?

Huck was dying, but now he's in contempt and drinking beer.

So shimmy sliding, cowboy year.

Sex in the bath and covens that aren't great with children.

Another shot for the poet who thinks you look good in that thong.

Fake your death and save your change.

Cause we're saving up for a new personality.

Recording bad sound while these people get down.

So thankful this movie is streaming.

I'll be your polyester puppet.

I give this movie five stars, champagne and bullets.

Amazing!

What's your name?

What's your name?

What's your name?

Oh,

my name's Jane.

I'm gonna forget him.

Oh, you know what I'm mad I forgot to do?

I wanted to, like they do a lot in the in the Satanist scene, there will be just like an off-camera like, we love you, Satan.

Yeah.

I wanted to just pepper that in throughout the show.

We love you, Satan.

We love you, Satan.

It's just so casual.

We love you, Satan.

Well, I'll tell you this much.

This is an interesting one.

There are no reviews for this movie on Avon.

Really?

So there are no reviews for for any of the three versions?

I guess maybe this version, there are four total reviews on Rotten Tomatoes.

None of them are five stars.

So we've kind of pulled these from different spots.

This one is from Cooper Steve67 and wrote, would have given this 10 stars if I could have heard the conversation at the restaurant over the chewing.

It's incredible.

The chewing is so

song are so loud.

And then says, Wingshauser is lovable as Huck, but obviously Brad Pitt used it for inspiration in 12 Monkeys.

Yes.

Yes.

And then

he ends his review by saying, the bail bond scene was very informative.

There were more paperwork instructions given by the bail bondsman than I ever got when my family was in trouble.

Wow.

Because that's true.

There was a very long scene.

If you remember, he's like, we have to duplicate this.

We've got to sign here.

hold on a second more signings

from conceptual editing uh this is written i've been and i am a mainstream film editor flex

since 1985.

I've viewed this film Road to Revenge more than once.

Each time has been better.

John DeHart, Wingshauser, and William Smith give magnificent performance.

The message is good over evil, and it's delivered in a surrealist style.

This is a stand-up film that is character-driven with substance and good continuity.

This movie is worth seeing over and over.

You'll come away with something new each time.

I am one of the many that really appreciate the work.

If you check the rating votes, you'll see that every lady voted gave it 10 stars.

What?

I happen to be a man.

This is John.

Yeah, this might be a John.

This is John.

I think that's John.

Yeah.

Maybe it is.

No, for sure.

It is because of the use of the word surrealist.

Yeah.

Because he thinks it's a surrealist tone poem.

If you haven't seen this movie, you might need to die.

Thank, by the way, thank God we watched it.

And then this one also from Letterbox from Chive Onion.

Apparently, you can just make a movie.

Yeah.

Yes.

And that's what's so inspiring about it.

Yeah, I mean, like, shame on us for not doing it.

Yeah, 150%.

He said, you know, self-finance.

He said he could have retired three times over if he would have just not done this.

Not done this.

Jason, what do you want to plug?

Oh, I don't want to plug.

I still have things to talk about in this movie.

Oh, yeah, of course.

By the way, I didn't ask the question that we.

How about when they go to her parents' house and they're so mean to Cindy, right?

They're so mean to her, and she's she's acting like that she was caught smoking.

She was caught killing a baby.

Her parents are right.

She's bad.

Oh wait, I remember in a moment that I want to talk about at the end when they're making the big drug deal.

This is a drug deal that's going to change the game.

The guy like, he's like, well, we're going to have a long relationship if you figure out how to get more of this.

And then the guy's like, calls his like supplier to say it's good.

He goes, you speak English in my house.

What?

Why are we taking this stand?

How about after Cindy's killed when there's a whole scene that takes place between Huck and Rick where Rick is just hitting a heavy bag?

Rick's just like, bam, bam, bam.

And it's so loud.

It's as loud in the mix as the chewing sounds.

Here's a fun fact about John DeHart.

Not a fan of action films.

Boy, he would have thought he would have studied them.

Maybe that's why some of the connective tissue is missing missing in this movie.

This was meant to be his demo reel that would have launched his acting career

because he was tired of never being cast as a lead.

The tub sex scene.

They go back to sex twice.

They go back to fucking twice.

And there is, let me be clear, in that scene, a song that is being sung that has an extensive spoken word portion of the song.

See, I didn't see that.

It's

I saw the shorter version.

Oh, you are.

Oh, it was worth it.

I'm missing it.

I'm going to go back and forth.

You're worth it for it.

It's so good.

I'll go around the horn here.

Do you recommend this movie?

100%

yes.

I cannot recommend this enough.

This is, if you haven't seen this, but you're listening to the episode, this is in the realm of the Miami Connection.

This is in the realm of birdemic.

This is in the high.

This is really one of the greats.

This is absolutely phenomenal.

Samurai Cop, didn't we?

Yeah, that one

recently did.

That felt very homemade.

And Scar is in Samurai Cop.

Is he?

Yep.

Fuck yeah.

As Scar?

Is he Scar in everything in the Scaraverse?

I love the Scarverse.

Jess.

I'm different.

I've changed, and I don't know if it's a good thing.

I mean, at the end of this tour, how do you feel?

I feel unwell.

I mean, would you do a breakdown of this tour on the deep dive?

I hate to give men more of a platform than

these last five movies have been given.

But no,

here's the thing.

This movie takes you on a journey.

You hate that you're watching it, and then you realize that he lives in all of us.

Yeah.

Do you know what I mean?

We are

braver than any of us have ever been to put your art out there.

I would love you to interview him.

What?

On the deep dive.

Honestly?

It would be fantastic.

Bless him.

Bless him for taking the risk and giving us all this joy.

A true leap of faith.

A true leap of faith to put something this personal out there.

100%.

And maybe stopping and maybe stopping a real-life satanic cult.

We don't know.

That I feel like we skated over.

That this is based on a true story

is just fucking crazy.

I love it.

There's nothing more to say more than thank you, Michael Weber, for recommending this film, bringing it to Portland.

You have been an amazing audience.

Give it up for Jason Manzukas.

Jessica St.

Clair, I am Paul Shearer.

Thank you so much for being here.

Eat shit, Portland.

Eat shit.

That's a wrap on our Doppelganger tour.

A big thank you to Jessica St.

Clair as she helped us retitle the Doppelganger Tour 2, yes, the Beefcake Tour.

We had such a great time with Jess, and now June will be back full-time.

But a big thank you to our tour manager, Beth Thomas, and the amazing staff at the Arlene Schnitzer Concert Hall.

Now, our t-shirt for this episode is pretty great.

It's John DeHart's face on a quarter with the inscription, Satan, allegedly, and the quote, Here's a quarter, buy yourself a personality.

Just click on the merch link at hdtgm.com and buy this shirt and more.

You can even get our official how did this get made hats.

It's all at hdtgm.com.

Now we're going to hear your thoughts next week on the last looks episode.

So give me a call at 619-P-A-U-L-A-S-K or just go to our discord at discord.gg slash hdtgm.

Now, here's the thing.

Jason's going to be back on Last Looks.

We're going to get into a lot of fun stuff.

I want to let you know, though, if you've not gotten your copy of Joyful Recollections of Trauma right now, it's 50% off at Barnes and Noble in store and online until September 1st.

So here's your chance.

No more excuses.

Go on and get yourself a copy of Joyful Recollections of Trauma and make sure that you are going to the movies to see June, Diane Rayfield, in Weapons and Freakier Friday, as well as the new season of the Great American Baking Show,

where she will be performing alongside my fellow Team Sanity member, Casey Wilson.

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And last but not least, I got to thank our entire team for whom the show could not be done without.

I am talking about our producers Scott Saney and Molly Reynolds, our movie picking producer Averill Halley, and our engineer Casey Holford.

That's all I got.

I'll see you next week on Last Looks.

Bye for now.

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