Last Looks: Driven

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Speaker 2 And Stallone is just your average Joe. All this and more on today's How Did This Get Made? Last looks.
Hit the theme.

Speaker 2 How did this get made? What were they thinking? Where is this going? I'm so confused, I'm so upset that someone loses looking better. Someone really read the script and think to themselves.

Speaker 2 Like I've been my kids to college. But today I have a date with destiny.
I've got a million dollars on Mannequin too.

Speaker 2 Ooh,

Speaker 2 in the immortal words of Tommy Lee Jones to Jim Carring.

Speaker 2 I can't fancy this with foodery. And so could Paul Tuesday, please explain to me exactly how did this get made.

Speaker 2 Hello, all you 55-year-old listeners pretending to be 37. I am Paul the Hummershear, and welcome to How Did This Get Made?

Speaker 2 Last Looks, where you, the listener, get to voice your issues on Driven, a movie that Discord user Steve Buscemi Eyes thinks should have had the tagline, Driven, where the steaks are served.

Speaker 2 A la carte.

Speaker 2 I love it. Thank you, Steve Buscemi Eyes, for that alt movie tagline.
A big shout out to Matthew Fountain for that opening song. Wow, that kicked ass.
I love it.

Speaker 2 Now, if you have a alt movie tagline, maybe an alt title, submit it to us on our Discord. It's simple.
Just go to discord.gg slash hdtgm and you could actually even upload songs there too.

Speaker 2 How about that? Yeah, you can write your own songs for the show. Very simple, very easy.
You hit the submit a song button and then you upload it.

Speaker 2 We put it in a Dropbox and we don't listen to it if it's more than 45 seconds. That's the rule.

Speaker 2 All right, coming up on today's episode, we'll be hearing about all your corrections and omissions on Driven. But wait, we also have some amazing phone calls today.

Speaker 2 Yes, Steven Seagal stories are pouring in and we need to get to them.

Speaker 2 Plus, we'll be playing the thrilling conclusion of my Lost Sylvester Stallone podcast, featuring another appearance from June and maybe Sly himself.

Speaker 2 You know, Jack McBrair called me up this week and he was like, buddy, was I on a podcast with you? And he forgot, and I forgot that Jack was on it.

Speaker 2 So anyway, it's been a real fun trip down memory lane. As always, at the end of the show, I will reveal the movie for next week's episode.

Speaker 2 And people, I hope you're listening to this while you're online to go see June in weapons and freakier Friday. That's right.

Speaker 2 Two movies, number one, number two at the box office, both with very high cinema scores. I think they're both A cinema scores.
That's like a business thing.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it means people like it and they want to recommend it. I've seen them both in theaters and I got to tell you, weapons needs to be seen with a crowd.

Speaker 2 It is fantastic and I enjoyed the heck out of Freak Year Friday. I thought it was fun, made me cry.
And you know what I'm going to say? Let's get Chad Michael Murray back in the mix.

Speaker 2 I want Chad Michael Murray back in the mix. I love the kids in that movie too.
That's, I think, where these movies often go wrong.

Speaker 2 I was talking to my friend Wes, a producer of the dark web, every Monday, Dark Web on YouTube. And he was saying, yeah, when they do the reboots, the kids suck.
In this movie, the kids don't suck.

Speaker 2 And you know who else doesn't suck? In Weapons and Freak Your Friday? June Diane Rayfield.

Speaker 2 She is fantastic.

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The show has been growing so much, and I just want to say thank you to everybody who has been watching it.

Speaker 2 We've heard like 65% of you are watching it on TV. That blows my mind.
Anyway, thank you for all that support. Let's get into it about driven.
You had questions.

Speaker 2 We might have answers, or we might just let you take a lap about how smart you are. Anyway, we're going to get into it all with a little something I like to call corrections and omissions.

Speaker 2 Thought we knew it, I thought we had it. And everyone else was living on another planet.
Now we come to you, hats in our hands. Tell you all about how we fucked up.
Corrections and our missions.

Speaker 2 Thank you, Cool Skull, for that theme song. It rocks.
Let's go to the Discord. Dr.
Guts1003. Dr.
Guts, how are you?

Speaker 2 I'm not sure how common this is in filmmaking, especially today, but Estella Warren said in an interview with The Guardian that Rennie Harlan berated her in front of the whole crew in order to make her cry for the scene where she has to break up with Bo.

Speaker 2 Here's a little excerpt. Didn't Harlan also chew you out one day in front of the whole crew to get you to cry for a breakup scene? Oh yeah, Rennie wasn't really a nice person to me that day.

Speaker 2 Let's just say there was a lot of champagne and caviar involved in making up for it. But I ultimately thanked him for making me cry because it worked out so well for the scene.

Speaker 2 I really wanted that emotion to come out. Hmm.

Speaker 2 Don't like what I'm reading.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Rennie Harlan is...

Speaker 2 Menadoria's dick.

Speaker 2 And look, and that's fine. He was at a time when directors could do that.

Speaker 2 I think it's, you know, there's there's some great Rennie Harlan movies I love, but I think that if you do a quick Google of Rennie Harlan, you will see he's an asshole.

Speaker 2 And even his ex-wife will tell you that, Gina Davis, who has some amazing stories about the torture that he put her through in one of my favorites, The Long Kiss, Good Night, or The Last Kiss, Good Night, whatever.

Speaker 2 It's almost Sam Jackson.

Speaker 2 All right. So don't approve of that.
Don't approve of

Speaker 2 Estella Warren being like, it's cool.

Speaker 2 It ain't uh george glass writes i just want to state how joyed i was at seeing robert sean leonard in this he was my big teen crush and i watched my best friend is a vampire dead poet society swing kits and much ado about nothing far too much that being said i thought his character and driven was right homegirl sophia was using his brother jimmy as a rebound at best and to make her ex-boyfriend jealous at worst.

Speaker 2 He had every right to tell his brother not to get mixed up in that dynamic and Sophia was wrong to punch him. There, I said it.
Well, George Glass, you're damn right. You are right.
I agree with you.

Speaker 2 I am on Team Robert Sean Leonard. Where is he? I'm sure he's acting.
I'm sure he's doing a great series that I have not seen.

Speaker 2 And not even like a series on Brit Box, just like a series that might be like buried on Paramount.

Speaker 2 I'm sure that at one point,

Speaker 2 you know, he'll be in the Tulsa King universe. Anyway, Sean McBee writes, I can't find any reference to it in my research, but this movie really felt like it was being filmed for 3D.

Speaker 2 There are so many instances of things flying straight to camera from raindrops to manhole covers, and even one of the quarters Stallone flipped before that dumb coin pickup thing. Sean,

Speaker 2 excellent point. And guess what? An audience member at our live show actually brought up this same point.
So rather than respond to you now, I will play our response in this deleted scene.

Speaker 2 Yes, we didn't talk about this. A lot of the static two-person scenes are zooming in and out as if someone's finding focus.
Yeah. Like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 2 It's like, I don't know why they needed to make the off-race moments like they were being shot like a race. I think that's why they did it.

Speaker 2 I think they were trying to make everything kinetic and full of energy, which is what kinetic means.

Speaker 2 All right, people, let's go to the phones. Larry from Florida, what do you got?

Speaker 3 Hey, Paul. On the Driven episode, one of the balcony monsters from Toronto Toronto asked if Burt Reynolds signed on to do Driven on the condition that he could sit the entire time.

Speaker 3 I might be able to say something, speaking of this a little bit. I went to film school in the late 2000s at Florida State University.

Speaker 3 Florida State University, where Burt Reynolds went to college and played football. And our school had a very intense production cycle-based curriculum.

Speaker 3 All of that got interrupted very suddenly when Burt Reynolds decided he wanted to teach an acting class to the film school.

Speaker 3 The first day we heard about this, there was the most expensive chair I've ever seen on the loading dock of the film school, and it was wrapped in caution tape. We were told, Mr.

Speaker 3 Reynolds is going to come and teach class for some weeks. This is his chair.
Do not touch it. Do not sit in it.
Keep it wrapped in the caution tape. He showed up, stayed for about three weeks.

Speaker 3 He would call for like the corporate football stadium skybox chef to come to the film school to make him stake at like midnight and they would make it happen.

Speaker 3 He was in the chair the entire time except when he was leaving the chair to leave the school or arriving to the school to sit in the chair.

Speaker 3 My favorite picture probably from that year of film school, I got to sneak into the chair when he was like using the bathroom and I threw my digital camera at somebody and said like get a picture.

Speaker 3 So there's a very blurry photo of me scared to death that Burt Reynolds was going to spot me. But yeah, I just know that sitting was a very big part of when he taught our class.

Speaker 3 And yeah, probably pretty important he used to be a stunt person and he was a football player and he was like ancient at the time so you know he has a lot of hip issues anyway yeah i could probably confirm that fitting is probably contractual all right thanks a lot ball oh my god larry this is the best story of all time uh

Speaker 2 you know i've been talking about this marlon brando taught an acting class after 9-11 that was directed uh by the director of American History X, whose name is escaping me at this very second, but who cares?

Speaker 2 And I remember that Marlon Brando like taught it from a bed, and the director of American History X was dressed as Osama bin Laden. Somebody helped me find this.
It's great.

Speaker 2 And if there's any acting tape of Burt Reynolds, and I love that he just went to Florida to get like steaks at 2 a.m. 2 a.m.
steaks.

Speaker 2 Oh, man the shits that guy must have had just with his bald head out there taking meaty dumps at 4 a.m what a what a life what a life uh anyway uh

Speaker 6 let's go back to the calls uh which when i say calls i mean phone calls uh what do we got pertaining to the movie driven when they drove around and were picking up quarters with tires if your tires get hot enough they don't actually pick up anything until the the tires start to cool.

Speaker 6 So the fact that the quarters were getting picked up while going around the track would not actually happen because the tires would still maintain the heat, thus letting the quarters go.

Speaker 6 It wouldn't be until you started to pull off the track and the tires started to cool that the quarters would actually stick to the tires.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 I believe you, but our producer, Scott, wants to chime in and say, tire temperatures aside, Stallone claimed that that idea was based on a trademark stunt performed by Formula One legend Juan Manuel Fanguo.

Speaker 2 Stallone explained, Juan Fanguo would lay a piece of cardboard down at the corner of the track when he would drive around the corner at 130 miles an hour, 140 miles an hour.

Speaker 2 After 20 laps of going around, he brought the cardboard up, which was the size of an 8 by 10 piece of paper, and they would put a dime on the cardboard and he would pick up the dime every time at that speed.

Speaker 2 This feels to me like Stallone heard a story weird. So, Scott, I appreciate the research.
I know that we talked about this in the show, too, but I feel like Stallone

Speaker 2 might have gotten his wires crossed. All right, next call, Cora.

Speaker 7 Hi, my name is Cora Veltman. Not only am I a massive Sylvester Stallone fan, but I have been a longtime listener at the show.

Speaker 8 Love every Stallone episode, especially.

Speaker 5 I actually worked for Kart slash IndyCar.

Speaker 8 I also studied under the master historian in motorsports and I know a lot about this league in this series and there are some, of course, inaccuracies here.

Speaker 8 One, this movie was partly subsidized by the league itself. It originated as, of course, an F1 movie, but when

Speaker 8 The F1 properties decided they didn't want to fuss around with Sylvester Stallone, they came to the cart people and they were like, Yeah, we definitely want to have our movie made.

Speaker 8 It was such a flop that the league denies it exists, even though multiple drivers and team owners are actually featured in it.

Speaker 8 I traveled with the league for six years, covering it for NBC Sports, and this is a movie that is frequently quoted as kind of trolling the league and trolling the series.

Speaker 8 It is the oldest league of NASCAR, IndyCar, and Formula One. They actually do go faster than NASCAR and Formula One.
I just wanted to thank you again for doing this movie, doing this series.

Speaker 7 And if you have any further questions or anything else, I am definitely an expert on this and would love to talk about it more.

Speaker 4 Anywho, have a good evening. Bye-bye.

Speaker 2 Cora. Bring in the heat.
We thought we had the CART expert in the crowd, but you brought it here. Thank you for your service.
And I love that this movie was a joke, even at the time.

Speaker 2 All right, back to the Discord. All right, more info on CART, more info on IndyCar.
Okay, this is Keith Now says the fracture of CART slash IndyCar would have been a better story to tell.

Speaker 2 The split between IndyCar and CART, known as the split, began in 1994 when the Indianapolis Motor Speedway president Tony George created the Indy Racing League, which launched in 1996 as a rival to the dominant championship auto racing teams, CART.

Speaker 2 George aimed to center the series around American drivers and oval racing and emphasize cost control, while CART featured a mixture of international drivers, diverse tracks, and major corporate backing.

Speaker 2 The conflict escalated when George reserved 25 of 33 Indy 500 starting spots for Indy Racing League teams in 1996, prompting a KART boycott.

Speaker 2 This fractured American open-wheel racing confused fans and diluted media attention, which helped NASCAR rise in popularity.

Speaker 2 The arrival lasted over a decade with declining viewership and sponsor interest across both leagues. In 2008, the two series finally reunited under the IndyCar IndyCar banner, ending the division.

Speaker 2 Wow. How poignant and powerful of a story could that have been? The split.
Oh, the split. Oh, this is Keith now.
I don't think we need the split. I don't think there's that much drama there.

Speaker 2 I'm fascinated by what you shared. I don't think it's dramatic.
It's a story, but it's not an emotional story. Where's Joe?

Speaker 2 Ghostbag writes, if you had your drethers, what sports or sport theme-related film would you like to see Stallone tackle next?

Speaker 2 He's already appeared in boxing, arm wrestling, and race car movies, but what sport or sports adjacent film could Sly, and by extension, we, the audience, benefit from being in next?

Speaker 2 Well, ghost bag, great question.

Speaker 2 Pickleball.

Speaker 2 Get him. Older guy lost his wife, finds Pickleball, gets competitive, and then, you know, him and McEnroe have a match at the end.
That's just the beginning part of my ideas.

Speaker 2 Hollywood, hire me i got great ideas um john steele writes i have a few points on memo's accident they said the emergency people would have a hard time getting to him but how come jimmy and bow had no problem and also they were so worried about the explosion but memo's cart already blew up as it flew through the trees can cars blow up twice

Speaker 2 uh

Speaker 2 uh

Speaker 2 John Steele, you broke my brain. I don't think they can.
Maybe they can. Is there another part that could blow up? I mean, the gas tank is what's blowing up, right?

Speaker 2 I mean, it's not like, there's not another combustible part, is there? I don't know. Anyway, so many great corrections and omissions this week, but there can only be one that is the best.

Speaker 2 What could it be? What could it be? Well, you know what? It's one that answers the only question that was unanswered in the show.

Speaker 2 Did Burt Reynolds request being in a wheelchair so he could sit for the entire movie? And I got to say, Larry from Florida, you proved our point that we were right.

Speaker 2 And whenever whenever you do that, you get to win. And you get this amazing song from the Action Jackson 5.

Speaker 2 Now, if you want to chime in with your own thoughts about the latest episode, hit up our Discord or leave us a message at 619-P-A-U-L-A-S-K.

Speaker 2 Also, heads up, if you want us to consider your correction and omission inclusion in Last Looks, please send it by the Monday night after the episode is released.

Speaker 2 We've been getting a lot of great voicemails that come in too late, but if you leave your message by Monday night, you'll guarantee that we hear it in time.

Speaker 2 Anyway, coming up after the break, I'll be opening up the phone lines again.

Speaker 2 Because, wow, we got some good ones. And these are not about Stallone.
These are about Segal. Also, the conclusion of my lost Sylvester Stallone podcast.
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Speaker 2 Welcome back. By now, I'm sure you've noticed that every Tuesday Tuesday we re-release classic How Did This Get Made episodes back into our feed.

Speaker 2 This week, we wrapped up our Stallone Summer Matinee with Demolition Man, and next week we'll be revisiting a fan favorite episode, No Holds Barred with guest Tom Lennon. That's a really fun episode.

Speaker 2 So keep on checking out all our replays of classic episodes every Tuesday.

Speaker 2 Now, speaking of our matinee episodes, we've gotten a lot of great phone messages from you guys related to our Stallone Summer Matinees that I didn't want to ignore them.

Speaker 2 So before we move on, let's reopen the phone lines and entertain us. Georgia, what do you got?

Speaker 5 Hi, Paul. I just listened to the Cobra episode, and

Speaker 5 what I'm about to say doesn't have anything to do with the movie Cobra, but it does have to do with the episode

Speaker 5 where Jason makes a joke that

Speaker 5 Dolph Lundgren doesn't know how to write. Oddly enough, Dolph Lundgren

Speaker 5 has a master's degree in chemistry chemistry from the University of Sydney. And while still living in Sydney, he

Speaker 5 won a Fulbright to go to MIT.

Speaker 5 But before he could start at MIT,

Speaker 5 Grace Jones, the singer, saw him working as a bouncer and hired him as bodyguard. They became lovers and he moved to New York with her.

Speaker 5 And then he started taking acting classes and hanging out in like the New York downtown art scene.

Speaker 6 So he's actually very well educated.

Speaker 5 I don't know if being good at chemistry means that you can write.

Speaker 3 So, all right, bye.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, yeah, George, I know. Big deal.
Yes, this story is a big, yes, he can read. It was a joke in the show.
We know. I think most people know.

Speaker 2 This is like the one fact that we know about Lundgren is that he's like a physicist, you know, whatever he is. All right, next one.
Alwyn Alwyn from London.

Speaker 4 I have been a little bit delayed sending this because I've fallen a bit behind on the podcast, but I've been dying for an opportunity to call and tell this hotline my Steven Seagal story.

Speaker 4 And I heard you talking about Stephen Seagal on the Extendable 4 episode a few weeks ago that I just got the chance to catch up on.

Speaker 4 And it reminded me of the time that Stephen Seagal woke me up on an airplane when I was about 10 years old.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I was flying from Paris to Thailand with my family. I was about 10 years old.
And as we were getting on, my dad sort of was going, look, look, that's Stephen Seagal. I was about 10.

Speaker 4 I had no idea who Stephen Seagal was, but I remember this giant man with a ponytail. And he was wearing sort of traditional East Asian wear.

Speaker 4 So he was doing a whole big, like they had a big deal of sort of, you know,

Speaker 4 sort of bowing to the air hostesses on this Thai flight. It was a whole big thing.
We were flying business class, as with Stephen Seagal.

Speaker 4 I think it was me and my family and him and his assistant in business class.

Speaker 4 And I am old enough, and this is long enough ago, that it was when they still showed a big movie up front of the plane, possibly in addition to having individual little screens in the chairs.

Speaker 4 And so this big movie was playing on the front. I had fallen asleep because I'm 10 years old.

Speaker 4 And I wake up because someone is shouting on the plane as we jerk awake.

Speaker 4 And it is Stephen Seagal shouting at the top of his lungs at his assistant about how unrealistic and bad the movie is that's playing on the big screen and it's my memory is that it's basically I couldn't tell you for all the money in the world what the movie was but a helicopter in a chase scene is flying through a tunnel and Stephen Segal is at the top of his lungs shouting that that's unrealistic and that the airflow in the tunnel wouldn't allow the helicopter and blah blah blah blah blah

Speaker 4 and I just remember being like who even at 10 who is this asshole but also him having the lack of self-awareness and gull to yell at a terrible movie on a flight just seems very incongruous with that so yeah I just wanted an opportunity to tell that story from sort of 25 years ago so thanks Paul whoa

Speaker 2 whoa

Speaker 2 whoa this is a man who loves attention okay wasn't he just a karate instructor for like a Hollywood mogul And then the Hollywood mogul said, no, he actually was like a former CIA agent and he was never.

Speaker 2 And he's really embraced this life and the music. And wow, great story to call everyone's attention out.
Like I could see him laughing.

Speaker 2 I believe Bob Odenkirk tells a great story about the most humorless person ever on SNL as a guest host, and it was Steven Seagal. I was helping with Hans and Franz that week.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I didn't usually help with that piece, but I love those guys. And

Speaker 2 And Segal read it and he said,

Speaker 2 if I do this sketch, if I do it, and

Speaker 2 they want to fight him. Hey, we'll take you on.

Speaker 2 He goes, if I do it, I have to beat them up.

Speaker 2 Like he has to, it's like a John Wayne thing, right? Like

Speaker 2 the most ludicrous scenario. You don't worry.
No one will think that they actually, no one's thinking anyone beat anyone up here.

Speaker 2 but uh that was his attitude the whole week was he kept saying i've never seen your show i don't know what you do here like really you've never seen saturday night live where do you live

Speaker 2 and he wrote a scene howard howard he he wrote a scene and it's the last scene in the show and it's like one of his movies but they tried to do it live they got some stunt men to come in it was it's insane so there's like this board of directors.

Speaker 2 There's a bunch of stuntmen in suits. So as a viewer, you're like, who are these actors? They're not in the cast.

Speaker 2 And then there's like some speech, and then he enters the banquet room and starts beating. It's live.
And he's beating them up and throwing them around the room. And it goes on for like eight minutes.

Speaker 2 It's the longest scene you've ever seen. And then at the very end, he turns to camera and says, This is what happens when you pollute the planet.

Speaker 2 And the audience is mystified. Watch those SNL clips, they're great.
Now, that was a great Steven Seagal story, but believe it or not, we might just top it because we have another Steven Seagal story.

Speaker 9 Hey, Paul and Crew, I was listening to your expendables episode, and you mentioned that Steven Seagal should be would be a great villain for it. I have a great Steven Seagal story.

Speaker 9 So, I work for a company that we had a rep dinner and

Speaker 9 they were having dinner with Steven Seagal as well. So we sat down to a dinner at a steakhouse and

Speaker 9 wouldn't you know that he decided to do a demonstration of his knife skills at the steakhouse. whirling around the steak knife, you know, middle of a crowded steakhouse in Las Vegas.

Speaker 9 It was like that video

Speaker 9 where

Speaker 9 they say, oh my God, it's Jason Bourne.

Speaker 9 And that was probably my highlight of my entire professional career. And this wasn't like in the 80s or 90s when he was pretty popular.
This was about seven years ago. So it was, it was bananas.

Speaker 9 But anyways, hope you all enjoyed the story. Bye.

Speaker 2 Oh, my goodness. Now you're making me want to just hire hire Steven Seagal for events.
I mean, how expensive could that be? It's not like getting like Aerosmith to play your bar mitzvah.

Speaker 2 Not that anyone's hiring Aerosmith. I don't think anybody is hiring Aerosmith right now to play your bar mitzvah.

Speaker 2 But like, I imagine it's not that expensive. I love this.
Please tell me there are pictures.

Speaker 2 And if anyone has a picture of Segal out and about just bowing, doing knife tricks, there's so many great stories about Seagal.

Speaker 2 You know, we've, I think we've talked about it it on the show a million times. There's great stories.

Speaker 2 I mean, he threatened a guy in an ADR booth with a gun because they asked him to do the line again.

Speaker 2 Like, that's, and I'm not even telling the story great because I'm just like, ah, we should just do a whole episode of like, I heard a Segal story.

Speaker 2 All right. And finally, our own Jafar.
We've traveled with her. We've seen her through her ups and downs.

Speaker 2 Hope she is still dating that gentleman.

Speaker 2 Jafar, what do you got?

Speaker 7 Hi, Paul. Hello to all my fellow nerds.

Speaker 10 Wishing a happy Saloon summer to all who celebrate.

Speaker 10 So if you can kind of hear in my voice in this episode, playing the game and watching all the special features on the DVD of Dribben literally broke me.

Speaker 10 So instead of talking about the movie specifically, I would instead like to speak to a Stallone trend I noticed when I watched Stop Or My Mom Will Shoot a few weeks ago, which is that Stallone seems to really have a thing for playing average Joes.

Speaker 10 So beginning in 1975 with Death Race 2000, he plays Joe Machine Gun the Turbo. In 1992, Stop or My Mom Will Shoot, as we all know, he was Sergeant Joseph Joe Bomowski.

Speaker 10 In 1995, he played Judge Joseph Dredd in Judge Dredd. Also, in 1995, he played the dual roles of Robert and Joseph Rath in Assassins.

Speaker 10 In 2001, Steaming Pile of Shit Driven, he played Joe the Hummer Tonto. In the 2011 animated film Zookeeper, he was the voice of Joe the Lion.
And in 2022, he played Joe Smith and Samaritan.

Speaker 10 So out of just under 70 feature film roles, Sylvester Sloan has been named Joe in just over 10% of them. Thanks again for a great show in Vancouver.
Can't wait to see where Jafar shows up next.

Speaker 8 Take care. Bye.

Speaker 2 10%.

Speaker 2 Okay. 10% is fine.
I want, like, I think if you're calling in for like an observation like this, it's got to be in the 50s. 50s or 40s.
40s, I'll take a I'll take 10 is he's a Joe.

Speaker 2 He's an average Joe. I mean, that's where it's coming from.
He's an average Joe. And that's about the level of like metaphor in a Stallone script.
Anyway, thank you for everyone who called in.

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Speaker 2 welcome back it is finally time to see if i ever got to interview sylvester salone on my podcast in the last segment i shared june had kicked me out of the house due to my obsession with the podcast i was spending thanksgiving alone in my car and well i was near rock bottom but thankfully i found a group to help me find answers that's right take a listen

Speaker 12 Hello, people of Earth.

Speaker 13 I am pleased to have the honor to do this podcast. I am paul shear i am recording this

Speaker 13 uh right now in the bathroom of a burger king let's not get into it what i do want to tell you guys about

Speaker 13 is an amazing journey that i took um

Speaker 13 let me tell you about

Speaker 13 well let me ask you a question would you like to change your life in three days Would you like to live an extraordinary life? Would you like to redefine the very nature of what is possible?

Speaker 20 Well,

Speaker 13 I think then you would like my friends at the landmark forum. I met these people

Speaker 17 this past weekend, and they are amazing.

Speaker 13 I have been right now, currently, I'm in day two of a three-day breakthrough class where I am learning how to redefine the very nature of what is possible in my relationships and in my work and in my family.

Speaker 13 And it's only in three days, and I know that if I continue on this path, I am going to get to Stallone.

Speaker 13 Because

Speaker 13 the beauty about this whole thing is that you can, whatever you learn, it's natural and without effort. Okay.

Speaker 13 It's, you know, and yeah, maybe I'm not gonna, maybe I'm not gonna start hanging out with my old friends because I think my communication is changing, you know.

Speaker 13 I really want you guys to look into the landmark forum. I think that we are gonna, we're gonna go here because most of us, like, we are content to live a life without question.

Speaker 13 But when you're a part of the landmark and you're friends in the landmark, they call you on your bullshit.

Speaker 22 Hi, welcome to the Sylvester Stillman podcast.

Speaker 22 As you can no doubt tell, this isn't Paul. This is Brett Morris.
I'm his engineer at Your Wolf and Wolfpop.

Speaker 22 So

Speaker 22 I'm sorry to say Paul's not here today.

Speaker 22 He sent me a strange email, though. It's a little concerning.

Speaker 22 I'm not quite sure what to make of it, but I'll just read it for you.

Speaker 22 I don't have much of a choice, really. So I'll let you be the judge.

Speaker 22 Subject, please read this on air.

Speaker 24 Hello, people of Earth.

Speaker 22 This is one of the brainwashed Wolfpop stooges.

Speaker 22 However, I'm reading you a message from the great Paul Scheer. And say the last part like you mean it.
He actually says that in parentheses.

Speaker 22 I'm currently going through a 24-hour detoxing and silencing pact with the great people I've met at the Landmark Forum. This time that I'm spending in Connie's basement apartment is magical.

Speaker 22 Fasting and not sitting down for hours on end is finally allowing me to reflect on my life and think about the mistakes I've made and why I've brought this stallone trauma upon myself.

Speaker 22 I've come to the realization that I might be here for a higher purpose.

Speaker 22 I believe that like Moses being sent down from the mountain with the commandments, I'm being sent down from Hollywood with the word of Stallone.

Speaker 15 What the fuck?

Speaker 22 I shouldn't say anymore, but this is big.

Speaker 13 How big?

Speaker 22 Let me just say this. Bible 2.

Speaker 20 What is he talking about?

Speaker 22 Then he says this. Oh shit, period.
I fear that Tommy, one of Connie's lieutenants, is seeing that I'm emailing. This is not a quote-unquote approved activity.

Speaker 22 And in the interest of not getting shamed with the stick in front of the circle again, I must stop writing. But before I go, please keep sending questions to AskSalone at Gmail.

Speaker 22 And enough with the questions that focus purely on farting and sex. You are only disappointing yourself.

Speaker 22 It gets cut off there, I guess it's supposed to say you are only disappointing yourself. But then it says this.
This is a message from Tommy, a proud landmark forum member.

Speaker 22 Emailing your podcast is a frowned-upon activity here, and Paul knows this. By listening to this, you are assuming the pain ritual upon your false idol.

Speaker 22 But what else do you know but greed and avarice? Is it talking to me?

Speaker 22 I guess it's to all of us. You haven't been enlightened.
However, if you would like to change your life in three days, come to a free landmark forum orientation.

Speaker 25 Hello, people of podcasts. I'm not sure that's the correct greeting.
I'm pretty sure it is. Anyway, welcome to the Sylvester Stallone podcast.
I'm Connie Franks.

Speaker 25 I'm a senior member of the Los Angeles chapter of the Landmark Forum, and I find this podcast disgusting in content and execution.

Speaker 25 Which is why, with Paul's explicit blessing, he's allowed me to take over his podcast to promote the amazing new work of the people of LMF.

Speaker 25 That's Landmark Forum for those of you people out there that have let the media corrupt your brains. This is fun!

Speaker 25 Well, what's Landmark, you ask? Landmark is a place where people begin to understand the pre-given possibilities for meaningfulness, specifically to the human subjects that participate in them.

Speaker 25 There is no need to fear any meaningless objective universe for such a thing as an abstraction, not an ultimate observable reality. Oh, and by the way, congratulations!

Speaker 25 By listening to this podcast, we have selected you and two guests of your choice to join us in our four-hour lecture series, The Talking Ritual.

Speaker 25 So, you'll finally learn what you've been doing wrong when speaking.

Speaker 25 Also, don't worry about Paul. He's fine.
He's not in any danger. And from what he tells me, it's the first time he's been truly happy.

Speaker 25 He's not being held against his will, and he wants everyone to join him on this new venture of self-exploration and honesty.

Speaker 26 Testing.

Speaker 26 Testing. I'm sorry, I'm not.

Speaker 26 I usually don't do this type of thing. I'm recording

Speaker 26 this message in the hopes that, Paul, you hear it somewhere out there.

Speaker 26 I'm very scared.

Speaker 26 I'm so scared.

Speaker 21 I haven't heard from you in a long time,

Speaker 26 and I think you've gotten mixed up with some really bad people.

Speaker 26 And I am

Speaker 26 praying

Speaker 26 for your return.

Speaker 26 And if anyone has any information about where Paul is, Paul Shearer, please reach out to me on Twitter or however, whatever.

Speaker 26 Oh, God, this is hard.

Speaker 26 Please come back home.

Speaker 26 Please come back home.

Speaker 26 I don't know where you are.

Speaker 26 I don't know if Connie has you.

Speaker 26 I don't know if Connie has you.

Speaker 21 I don't know what you've gotten mixed up in.

Speaker 26 But I want you to know that I'm here and the baby is here and we are waiting for you.

Speaker 20 And we fully, fully support

Speaker 26 the Sylvester Stallone podcast. And I know I said some really terrible things to you

Speaker 26 about embarrassing

Speaker 26 us and our family. And I take all of it back.
I really do. I just want, I want you to come back and I want you to know that I have emails out to my agents and manager and entertainment lawyer

Speaker 26 about Sylvester Stallone and if there's any way anyone knows him to reach out to me because I'm in full support, babe, I am in full support of you doing this.

Speaker 26 I really am.

Speaker 26 And

Speaker 26 I just want you back.

Speaker 26 And if having you back means that you do a podcast in which you try to get Sylvester Stolen to answer questions, that's fine with me.

Speaker 26 And I can only say that.

Speaker 26 You know, to the people who are out there who listen to this podcast, like, please, if anyone does know him, like, seriously, I know this has been a lot of

Speaker 26 you know, this has been funny to certain people, this has been, you know,

Speaker 26 weird to others, but now it's

Speaker 26 actually a very scary situation.

Speaker 26 And so, this is a plea. Um,

Speaker 26 please help my family, please help us get Paul back

Speaker 26 through Sylvester Stallone.

Speaker 19 Oh, God.

Speaker 27 Welcome to the Sylvester Stone podcast.

Speaker 19 Hello people of Earth. I'm Paul Scheer and I'm scared.

Speaker 19 I'm

Speaker 27 I don't know if anyone can hear this, but I'm

Speaker 27 trapped in this house. Landmark Forum is not what

Speaker 19 I thought it was.

Speaker 28 These people are cruel and I don't know what they're gonna do to me.

Speaker 19 I'm scared. I'm scared.

Speaker 20 Please help me.

Speaker 19 Please help me.

Speaker 2 I'm at 521.

Speaker 28 Please send your police officers send anyone a landmark for him. They're not what they say.

Speaker 19 They're evil.

Speaker 28 These people are evil.

Speaker 19 Oh God.

Speaker 19 You hear that? You hear that?

Speaker 19 It's starting. It's starting.
Please. Please, God, help me.
Please help me. I've seen things.
I've seen terrible things.

Speaker 19 People here

Speaker 14 want to hurt me.

Speaker 19 Oh, God. Oh, God.

Speaker 29 I haven't eaten for

Speaker 29 four days.

Speaker 29 We are the power. We are the light.

Speaker 29 We are the league. We are the light.

Speaker 29 We are the power. We are the light.
We are the power.

Speaker 30 Greetings.

Speaker 15 I am Mikel, formerly the podcaster known as Paul Scheer. For far too long, my body has been inhabited by an interdimensional demon who went by the name Funnuk.

Speaker 23 The landmark forum has been instrumental in my freedom, and now I would like to free you.

Speaker 31 I have seen the truth and the light, and I believe that the eye that burns the brightest is the one that knows the truth.

Speaker 33 The government is corrupting our brains.

Speaker 32 Look at our currency.

Speaker 30 The green color interacts with receptors in our brains to paralyze us and pacify us.

Speaker 32 We must give our money to the landmark forum. They will keep keep this money away from us to free us from the ties that bind us.

Speaker 31 But this, my friends, is just stage one.

Speaker 24 Stage two involves our army of freed beings taking over the U.S.

Speaker 32 post offices across the country.

Speaker 24 When we are ready, our group will attack and peacefully siege these domiciles of communication. We will be heard.

Speaker 32 The U.S. post offices will be our base camp for the outcropping.
We will farm our embryos and build a new alien infrastructure along the postal routes of this fine country.

Speaker 32 The United States of America will forever be now referred to as the farmland.

Speaker 24 Repopulate, reproduce.

Speaker 31 No money, no government, no entertainment.

Speaker 24 We will subsist on the berries of straw. No food, no water.
We are now the one power, and we worship him. His name is Diaxanu.

Speaker 24 We worship Diaxanu.

Speaker 33 Hello people of Earth and welcome to the final Sylvester Stallone podcast.

Speaker 15 I am Paul Scheer.

Speaker 15 I am actually Paul Scheer, despite what you've heard this week.

Speaker 35 And this is the Sylvester Stallone podcast.

Speaker 18 What

Speaker 32 a journey this has been.

Speaker 12 I started out with a goal to do the best podcast I could possibly do with one of the best entertainers that currently exist in cinema. Not just American cinema, but international cinema.

Speaker 16 He is a writer, a director, a producer, an actor.

Speaker 12 And we never got him on the show.

Speaker 12 If I had to give myself a note, I would say, next time you do a show named after someone, you should get that person. So, I apologize to you, the listener, for never getting Sylvester Stallone.

Speaker 37 That was a big mistake.

Speaker 38 I probably should have stopped the show early.

Speaker 12 I wouldn't have been kicked out of my home,

Speaker 12 living in a CD motel, using up my relationships with my closest friends, and finally

Speaker 16 getting kidnapped by a group of people that call themselves a landmark forum.

Speaker 12 I don't know if you guys were able to understand this, but I was taken in by a cult

Speaker 14 and it was a hellish nightmare of a time. I am currently being deprogrammed right now.

Speaker 30 And my deprogrammer told me I should not do today's podcast.

Speaker 38 It's too fresh.

Speaker 16 But I needed to talk to you.

Speaker 12 I needed to tell you what exactly happened because I was saved

Speaker 14 by someone.

Speaker 37 And

Speaker 12 I will say there is tape of this moment, and I'd like to play you some of the tape.

Speaker 12 What you will hear is kind of a bad audio quality, but

Speaker 37 I feel like it's the best way I can explain to you what exactly happened.

Speaker 21 I am Michael,

Speaker 21 and I command everyone here to begin the blood ritual. Begin

Speaker 26 for yourself.

Speaker 13 Let me just pause the tape for a second to explain to you what was going on.

Speaker 12 Part of my indoctrination into the landmark forum was finding drifters and runaway teens, bringing them back to our basement, and doing what we're so embarrassed to say this.

Speaker 12 We did something called the blood ritual, which was we cut these people and bled them out. and then buried their bodies in a basement.
Now, before you get judgmental, I will say

Speaker 12 I was under a heavy amount of sedatives at this point.

Speaker 14 And

Speaker 31 to my knowledge,

Speaker 39 we did not kill anyone.

Speaker 12 We were about to, and I know that that is frowned upon.

Speaker 24 I'll just say that you try it.

Speaker 30 You try getting sucked up into a cult.

Speaker 32 It's a very, it's a crazy, it's a crazy situation, okay? Because you're doing stuff, and yeah, I know we can all sit on our high perch and say, oh, you shouldn't kill people. But I was there.
It was,

Speaker 20 it was intense.

Speaker 12 Anyway,

Speaker 38 from our basement window, gunfire erupted, and this man

Speaker 36 entered into the room.

Speaker 35 I looked up and I saw his face.

Speaker 20 You're gonna

Speaker 18 find it hard to believe, but I'll play some of the tape.

Speaker 12 And again, this tape has been compromised, obviously.

Speaker 35 But

Speaker 20 let me

Speaker 13 play some more.

Speaker 13 What's going on? Everyone, no, no, no, we must kill her.

Speaker 13 Oh my god,

Speaker 13 who are you?

Speaker 13 No!

Speaker 13 No! My name is Mikhail, not Paul!

Speaker 13 You!

Speaker 21 It's you!

Speaker 12 That's right, everybody. At that point, I looked up and I saw a visage

Speaker 12 that I have been dreaming about for days.

Speaker 20 It was the man.

Speaker 24 The myth, the legend, Sylvester Stallone.

Speaker 12 He had been listening to the podcast and he broke in to save me. And he said something to me that I will never forget.

Speaker 21 Why, out of everybody, out of your busy newbie schedule, why would you find me?

Speaker 31 I'm so upset that that piece of dialogue was garbled because what he said to me, and I don't remember it 100%,

Speaker 33 but he looked at me and he goes, it's not about

Speaker 36 how great your podcast is.

Speaker 31 It's about how hard it is to do a podcast and keep on moving forward. And he goes, and I listened to your podcast every day and you kept me going forward.

Speaker 31 He goes, if I was to appear on day one, you wouldn't be where you are are today.

Speaker 24 You needed to grow.

Speaker 31 You need to go back to your wife now as a man, as a man who almost killed a teenage runaway.

Speaker 33 This podcast was a test.

Speaker 20 And I said to him, a test? Like,

Speaker 33 you were testing me the entire time?

Speaker 17 And he looked me right in the eyes and said,

Speaker 20 yeah.

Speaker 24 Can you believe it?

Speaker 31 Stallone was testing me just like his his characters were tested with impossible odds, insurmountable foes.

Speaker 33 He gave me a challenge of a lifetime.

Speaker 31 And I swear to God, as God as my witness and my hand on the graves of my parents who are not yet dead, but if they were, I would put my hand on their graves.

Speaker 31 And he said to me, you are the Rocky Balboa of podcasting.

Speaker 31 To which, of course, I replied thank you and I know

Speaker 23 and then

Speaker 12 I had a mission a mission that this podcast started with and I knew I needed to do it so I will play you this next section of tape

Speaker 21 thank you thank you for saving me and before before you let me go before you leave I just have to ask one thing, Waxon, a couple of things.

Speaker 21 What role didn't you take that you regret?

Speaker 21 And what do the three seashells from Demolition Man do?

Speaker 21 Oh, that makes sense.

Speaker 21 Will Hulk Hogan ever be in the next expendables?

Speaker 21 As a watchmaking student, I'm always intrigued to learn about people's watch collections and reasons for collecting.

Speaker 21 With your known affection for Pan and Air, Richard Millet, and Monte Grappa, what are some other brands that you like?

Speaker 21 Of course!

Speaker 21 And finally, Rocky, Rambo, Cover, Tango, John Spartan, and Bonnie Ross in a knockdown, drag out fight to the finish. Who would win?

Speaker 21 Of course.

Speaker 21 They would all die at each other's hands. Thank you.
Thank you.

Speaker 12 And again, I am so bummed out that the recording cut out most of his answers. We just kind of shortened it up because I guess the mic was kind of more on me than it was on him.
I mean,

Speaker 12 rookie mistake.

Speaker 16 My apologies.

Speaker 32 But I did it. I came here with a mission and I finished that mission, which was to ask Sylvester Salone the fan questions that we all needed answers to.

Speaker 12 Unfortunately, I don't really remember the answers to the questions. I was pretty drugged up on a mix of Sudafed and Prozac and a little bit of lithium, I think.

Speaker 12 I don't actually even remember much more than him carrying me in his arms and putting me down

Speaker 12 on a lawn, and there was a mess of fire trucks and engines. And

Speaker 23 he walked away.

Speaker 12 And when people asked me, who saved you, I didn't tell them because to tell them is to let them in on a secret that was only between me and him, and you, the fans of this show.

Speaker 38 So I think with that,

Speaker 37 my job is done.

Speaker 30 Just like Rocky Balboa and Rocky Balboa,

Speaker 23 I'm walking away from the ring, prouder, smarter,

Speaker 17 and enlightened.

Speaker 12 And I just want to say out there, thank you, Stallone, for rescuing me from that cult.

Speaker 12 So the next step for me is repairing my life and

Speaker 12 hopefully getting the Daniel Day-Lewis podcast off the ground.

Speaker 35 Thank you guys so much for listening to the Sylvester Stallone podcast. I am Paul Scheer, and I am a champion, a winner.

Speaker 24 Fuck yeah!

Speaker 2 Wow, so long ago, so many memories, I was saved, and now it's me, present-day Paul, and I am free of that landmark forum's grasp.

Speaker 2 Thank you for tagging along with me through my old Stallone podcast over these last few episodes. If you missed my just chats with Jason, well, don't worry, he'll be back on Last Looks next time.

Speaker 2 That's right. But now, this is the moment you've been patiently waiting for this entire episode.
It is finally a time to announce our next movie.

Speaker 2 Stallone Summer is finally over, and next week we are going from champagne celebrations to champagne and bullets. That's right.

Speaker 2 We are covering the 1993 indie action film, Champagne and Bullets, starring Wingshauser, Pamela Bryant, and the film's writer and director. John DeHart.

Speaker 2 The film is considered by many to be the room of direct-to-video action flicks.

Speaker 2 Well, there are actually three different versions of this film with different titles, which I'll explain in more detail in just a second. And as for the movie's plot, they're all the same.

Speaker 2 There's a satanic cult leader who betrays a pair of ex-cops, and you got some baby sacrifices, drug deals, and a whole lot more. Take a listen to this trailer.

Speaker 29 Welcome to the biggest little movie ever made: action, suspense, the throw-um in it, romance, and some very funny moments.

Speaker 29 We can soon don't forget a woman.

Speaker 2 You can be nerds.

Speaker 29 You just made a big mistake. See, Sam, you see this? White pottery.
How about tolerating the goddamn justice system? Sit down.

Speaker 2 Okay, so if you want to watch this movie before listening to our episode, here's what you need to know. There are three versions of this movie.

Speaker 2 The original movie is titled Champagne and Bullets and has a runtime of 99 minutes. You can stream Champagne and Bullets on Tubi, Hoopla, and Fossum.
Fossum,

Speaker 2 great recommendation by a friend of the pod, and I have been loving it. The next version of the movie is called Road to Revenge.
It has a runtime of 75 minutes.

Speaker 2 This shorter version cut out most of the sex and nudity. I'm guessing you don't want to watch this version, but it is available on Amazon Prime Video.

Speaker 2 I will say that, look, I'm not going to say that we need to have exploitative films on this show, but the sex and nudity in this are

Speaker 2 awkward

Speaker 2 in a great way.

Speaker 2 And the latest version, well, there's a lot. There's a lot here.
You take it at your own risk.

Speaker 2 The latest version is called Get Even. It has a runtime of 89 minutes.

Speaker 2 Now, Get Even restored most of the sex annudity while adding a very important scene of the main characters practicing martial arts and feeding his pet poodle.

Speaker 2 Now, this version isn't available on any streaming services, but I'll say if you search for it online, you'll probably find it with minimal effort. So, get even

Speaker 2 is probably the one that you want to find. You just got to search for it online and you'll probably find it.

Speaker 2 Now, I know I already mentioned Hoopla earlier, but as always, I encourage you to check out Canopy and Libby, which are digital media services offered by your local library that allow you to consume movies, TV, music, audiobooks, and e-books for free.

Speaker 2 All right, that is it for Last Looks. If you listen to us on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, please rate and review us.
Please also make sure you are following us and have automatic downloads turned on.

Speaker 2 It helps the show and we appreciate it visit us on social media at hdtgm and a big thank you to our producers scott sanny and molly reynolds and our movie picking producer april halley and our engineer casey holford we'll see you next week for champagne and bullets aka the road to revenge aka watch get even

Speaker 2 bye for now

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