Friday the 13th Part VII: Jason Takes Manhattan

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Light your long candles and set your trash cans on fire, because this week, Paul, June, and Jason are breaking down the 1989 movie, Friday the 13th Part VIII: Jason Takes Manhattan. The crew questions if the title of this movie was inspired by the Muppets, ponder the mythology of Jason, and discuss the importance of water safety.

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We saw Friday the 13th, part 8: Jason takes Manhattan.

Let's warrow in the mediocrity of some car art.

Perhaps we'll find the answer to the question, how did this get made?

Hello, people of Earth, and welcome to How Did This Get Made?

The year is 1989,

and Jason Voorhees is accidentally awakened from his watery grave and ends up stalking a ship full of graduating high school students headed to Manhattan.

And the final scenes of this film are shot there as well as the opening, But there is so much that happens along the way.

We're going to break it all down for you right now.

Please welcome my co-host, Jason Manzukas, and June Diane Rayfield.

How are you both?

I mean,

I'm going to be honest.

I've never seen this.

And I loved this New York.

I just wish we'd spent more time there.

I mean, this film really sets the tone of a New York movie.

I mean, the opening sequences, the dirty alleys, the trash cans full of water, and just an establishing shot on a rat that I feel like lasted for 30 seconds.

Like they are, we got a real rat.

We got a real rat.

Keep rolling.

Well, I don't know if you noticed because

the Manhattan, the Manhattan that we see in the beginning of this movie, there's one shot of the drug, you know, sort of criminals that'll come back later.

But someone, I had to pause it this morning because I went back and rewatched the beginning.

Someone is smoking crack, not over a lighter, but over sort of like a cathedral light.

Looking for a long candle.

Yes.

A long candle.

And they are over a burning trash can.

Much to Jessica.

I wish we had St.

Clair for this episode.

This episode had so much burning trash cans, chemical-filled trash cans, rats-filled trash cans.

This really would have been great.

And I will say, here's the thing about New York, like, and this is why rats are so upsetting.

Like, no matter how many iterations of New York we've seen like that this gritty kind of you know late 70s or early i guess 80s 89 new york

89 new york i'm sorry 1989 new york like then the sort of post juliani like disne-fied times square new york then post 9-11 new york like we've seen so pandemic new york we've seen so many versions of new york what are we on the brian lehrer show right now let me tell you let me tell you something though the thing that always is true about New York City that no one's been able to change is the rats.

Oh, yeah.

Okay.

Well, yeah, I guess you got a point.

Let's be clear.

It's their city.

No, it really is.

Pizzerat's really the New York City mayor.

I will say this.

Now that Eric Adams is out, Pizzerat is in.

Well, I mean, he's always been in.

Eric Adams is just a puppet like Ratatouille.

Now, I just want to say this.

You were talking about New York and the vibe of New York.

To put it in context, the Muppets take Manhattan 84.

This is 89.

Like, so just like when you're looking.

So I had a question about that.

I had a question about that.

What is the origin of the framework blank takes Manhattan?

It can't be the Muppets.

This movie can't be referencing the Muppets.

I think it is because I looked it up and

there's no other take Manhattan thing.

There isn't.

Okay, okay.

So I can't imagine.

That would be shocking.

It is.

It is.

Without having done any research, I'm going to say that that can't be true.

All right.

I won't allow it.

I like it as a pair.

If this movie is directly referencing

the Muppets Take Manhattan, then they're operating on a level that I, having watched it, would not give them credit for.

No, I would definitely not.

I got to be honest.

Well, how familiar?

I'm curious for the both of you.

How either familiar or how much a part of your teenage or childhood years was Friday the 13th or these movies?

they were they part of your like scary movie lexicon

you know it's funny I said to Paul I as we were watching I said you know what this movie really doesn't have which I think is why I'm not scared and I don't feel anything is a compelling like musical rhythm.

Like I don't understand the music of the horror here.

Is that doing anything to me?

Okay, so that's what Paul said.

He said, it's cha, cha, cha, cha, cha, cha.

Yes.

And this movie has a lot of.

And I said, that's a sound effect, though.

I said, that's a sound effect.

I agree.

I agree.

There's no Halloween theme.

There's no, there is nothing that ramps you into it.

And also, they also do an interesting thing.

And I don't know if this is for to get a specific rating or something.

Oh, no, this has got to be rated R.

So it doesn't matter.

It's just rated R.

Yeah.

A lot of the kills.

are on Jason.

So he's stabbing someone, but you're seeing him stab.

You're not seeing the person always, which is very strange.

I think the thing that really shook me to my core in this film, and I am

to my core.

I'm going to be honest, I don't think your core should be available for these movies.

I open myself to every one of these.

Oh, God, I do strengthen your core.

No, I have to.

I do strengthen it by watching these movies.

So when I grew up, Jason and Freddie were a part of the Delexicon.

I didn't like scary movies.

They.

What about

Michael Myers from Halloween way more scary.

Like I feel like Jason and Freddie were like at least more poppy, fun.

Like I believe that Jason went on the Arsinio Hall show and sat there and did a silent interview with Arsenio Hall, which is one of my favorite things, worth looking up.

But,

you know, so I was aware of these characters, but I never really dug into this franchise.

Yeah, I don't know this mythology, for example.

Like, I don't know.

I realized as I was watching this, I don't know if there are any.

What are Jason's rules?

Well, it switches.

Like, I understand Freddy Krueger's rules for the most part.

Yeah.

But Jason, like Jason Voorhees, I don't understand why he's targeting all of these people.

And when he gets to Manhattan, he's not targeting really many other people whatsoever.

He barely leaves the docks.

Yeah.

You know, this is what I'll say is the mythology here is really busted.

Friday the 13th

is great because it has a clear idea of who it is, is.

Mike Myers 2 and Michael Myers.

Great mythology on Mike Myers.

Mike Myers.

Yes.

Yeah, Mike Myers.

Of course.

Wayne's World.

Second City World.

So I Married the Axe Murder.

So just to give you the idea of it, and they talk about it a little bit in the film, but in number one, it's Jason's mom who's the killer.

Straight up normal human.

Oh.

Okay.

In the second movie.

Okay, sorry, sorry.

So in that movie, Jason's mom, whenever we see this figure in a hockey mask, it's his mother.

There's no hockey mask until

part three.

Whoa.

Yes.

So that wasn't part of his iconography?

No.

Until he picks up.

Holy cow.

Right.

So in the first one, Jason, little kid at a camp.

He drowns.

The mom takes revenge on the counselors.

Great idea.

Simple, easy.

Makes sense.

Second one, they reveal, oh, get it.

Although I do want to say something about children being water safe, but I'm going to save that because it's not that simple, actually.

All right.

But like

her motives and why she's taking it out on the counselors and not looking inward.

But let's talk about that.

So we want to put that.

We'll put that in second opinions.

Now, part two, they reveal, oh, that little kid didn't die.

He survived.

And I guess he just grew up to be an adult.

They don't really tell you who raised him,

but he wears.

I thought he was Pharaoh in the woods.

Probably.

He wears a sack over his head.

Oh, he's a sackhead?

He's a sack head.

And he goes and murders, I guess, the campers for murdering his mother.

So are their eyes cut out?

I don't know.

I haven't seen part two.

Now, here's my question, Paul.

Does he...

By the way, I think we have done this exact same thing on the other two Jason movies that we have done.

Really?

Wait, we've got some other two movies?

Yes.

I remember one because he went to space, and that was a part two.

That was, yes, Junior were not there for that.

That was Let the Bodies Hit on the Floor.

Yeah.

That was Let the Bodies Hit the Floor?

Yes.

And then we did the one with Corey Feldman in Berkeley, I believe.

And I think that's part six.

Wow.

Corey Feldman was in it or a guest?

No, Corey Feldman was never a guest in the show because we won't let him perform the second opinions theme song.

With his band?

Yeah.

But here's my question.

Was Jason as a child, he drowned when he's six years old.

Was he

already disfigured?

Well, that seems to be this new part of it.

Like

he drowned, but now we're seeing like that he is a little bit disfigured.

I don't know.

I'm going to tell you, honestly, I don't know.

But I think part of it is, I think, well,

so, yes, in part three, he gets his mask, right?

And, and, and, uh,

there's some major stuff happening.

Well, he's also been, I don't, I don't know the, the, the time period between the two, uh, between three and four, but he's also like got to be super waterlogged.

oh he's always i mean he is is he always waterlogged he's always waterlogged said while we were watch while we were watching it he goes oh

he looks so moist oh too moist he must smell terrible i mean you must be able to know where he is at all times because he must smell terrible oh yeah but you know here's the thing about jason doesn't hide doesn't need to just casually walking around because he i mean correct me if i'm wrong has the ability to teleport yeah well that i i don't know i don't understand.

I will just quickly just jump through the two other ones to say that then we have

part four, where, again, he's alive.

He gets killed.

He comes back.

But then part five, a new beginning.

Jason, not in it.

Killer's a copycat.

Okay.

So then

part six, this is the one that we've watched.

Jason resurrected when lightning strikes his body and he becomes an undead, super strong zombie.

Okay.

And then

he is chained to the bottom of Crystal Lake, not destroyed.

And then part seven, new blood, he breaks free of his chains, kills again.

And then a psychic teenager named Tina uses her powers to resurrect her dead father, who drags Jason back to the lake.

Oh.

Hence, we get to takes Manhattan where he is under the water and gets woken up by a power line.

You know, as Jason takes Manhattan, by the way, we're going to be taking Manhattan in November.

You can get tickets at hdtgm.com.

Uh, and you know, maybe we'll go there by boat.

I was just gonna say, we are traveling there by ferry, and the ferry is disposed of.

We're going through Ellis Island, yeah, right?

Yep, and we will, yes, we will row, we will row a dinghy into Ellis Island.

I have so many things to say.

I just want to talk about the boat that's the main got to talk about it, gotta talk about it, gotta talk about its amenities.

Yes, it looks like a ferry, it looks like a ferry, like it looks like a commercial industrial boat.

There is nothing about it.

It would be transporting like sardines or something.

Correct.

Like it looks so good.

Why does it have a beautiful sauna?

Why does it have a hot rock sauna?

And then the rooms are beautifully appointed.

I mean, the rooms are really well appointed.

They have a disco.

They have a gym.

The amount of bathroom space that that one girl has, the top dollar toot girl, I mean, her bathroom is.

Top Dollar Toot.

I also wrote Paul.

Oh, that's so good.

I love it.

What's amazing to me though is that this is eight.

Is that right?

This is eight.

Yes.

This is eight.

There are eight movies in by 1989.

Yeah.

That's the first one starting in 1980.

So there's one a year pretty much with the exception of 1983.

That's amazing.

Yeah.

And by the way, I just want you to both know that this movie was written

fully to be shot in New York.

When it was over an hour and we had not gotten to New York yet, I was starting to get angry.

Yes.

Oh, I mean, well, first of all, it is the longest runtime of any Friday the 13th film.

It also is the Friday the 13th film that has the least amount of nudity.

So why are we doing it then?

Well, and why is, first of all, was it Friday the 13th?

Well, that doesn't play into any of it.

Wait, has that ever played into it?

Has Friday the 13th been significant in, I'm assuming number one, right?

That I'm going to give you a big old pause because I don't know the answer.

Well, that's just interesting because, yeah, it's like, it didn't seem like we were referencing any of the things that

we never saw a calendar.

We never saw a calendar.

We never see a calendar.

Well, by the way, it would be so easy if you lived in Camp Crystal Lake.

You just leave.

By the way, Crystal Lake,

how would you get out of it?

Like, how would you, like, Crystal Lake seems like a lake.

It's how did they get?

Yeah, they

tricky to get to the Atlanta.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, that's another thing I had so many questions about.

Where is Crystal Lake?

I think it's in like New England.

My, my guess is it's in like New Hampshire or something.

Uh, actually, you'll be surprised to know that Camp Crystal Lake is in New Jersey.

Oh, it's in, oh, fucking hell.

Of course, it's in New Jersey.

Scott also wants us to know that the murders in part one do happen on Friday the 13th.

Okay, so, okay, so that makes sense.

Okay, wow.

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New Jersey.

So they're taking a ferry to

New York

from New Jersey, which has got to take longer.

Well, they have bedrooms.

They have bedrooms.

Yeah.

Why are they going overnight?

And also, let's talk about the weather they hit.

I mean, it truly looks like they are in the, what is it called?

Like the Northern Passage or whatever that is.

Yeah, like a northeastern they're hitting.

Yeah.

It looks so, and I just can't imagine that they're hitting that kind of weather.

And I do have to question the original captain of the boat.

Yes.

Who gets murdered and then somehow is standing up at the end.

But, but

why didn't he know before they went off course that they were heading into such rough waters?

I think that they did say that there was going to be some rough waters, but it was tricky because there's so much exposition at the top of this, and especially from that captain who just kind of deputizes his son to also be a captain of a very large vessel without any training whatsoever and then is immediately mad at him like, oh, goddamn it, he didn't know how to do that.

It's so funny because we're given so many scenes and yet so little information that we are frantically trying to make meaning of.

Like when we were watching that scene between the young woman, our heroine, our final girl, and the older woman in the car, I thought, oh, that's mother and daughter.

And then, no, no, that's.

English teacher and student.

And then I had a moment where I thought, and there's a love connection between the two of them.

There, where I had to go, I had to make meaning where I could because nothing was being provided to me.

The same with the captain and his son.

I have no idea.

Was he disappointed in what's happened?

The same with the principal and his niece, who is the final girl.

Rennie is

his niece, or was he the adopted

like no, it's his niece, I think.

She calls him Uncle So-and-so.

I can't remember.

Well, can we talk about water safety?

Oh, wait, wow.

I guess we're doing it early.

All right, let's do it.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

So my issue with this movie is I feel like, and I'm going to take on like the whole Jason lore in general because

the thing that starts this is Jason is as a six-year-old boy

does not know how to swim.

Got it.

Now you live in Crystal Lake, but you live anywhere.

It doesn't matter.

You don't send your child to camp without them knowing how to swim.

Okay, got it.

So the fact that the mom takes out revenge on all the counselors, who I guess weren't paying attention, like I think there's a reality to that.

They weren't paying attention.

But that is for her to wrestle with the rest of her life.

How she sent her child to camp without him being water saved.

June, when do you think Jason Voorhees died?

Like roughly?

Died?

The child?

Yeah.

I thought when he was six.

Yeah, but like when.

Oh, what year?

Yeah.

It's 1989.

He looks like, well, I don't know if he ages.

That's the thing.

He's a big, burly man now.

So how did that happen?

Yeah, that's what's so hard.

How does he come back as a big man?

I'll let you know that it's 1957.

Come on now.

How so?

1957.

Wait, what do you mean?

So, so, so, but wait, so okay, so what, how, what year does number one take place?

I imagine that what they do is they show him drowning, and then years have passed.

Oh, and and June, to answer your question, he the reason why uh the 11-year-old Jason

um, so he was, he did have facial deformities.

He was a camper at Crystal Lake, where his mother worked as a cook.

He was bullied and teased by the other children.

He ran to the camp's pier and fell into the lake after other campers.

But the counts, he was 11, but the counselors were too preoccupied with drug use and sex to notice a struggle.

Unable to swim, Jason in 1957.

Camp closed in 1958

And it reopened in 79.

And that's when the first movie took place.

But if he had some sort of disfigurement that

like where he couldn't ever learn how to swim, that's one thing.

But parents' responsibility, guess how most kids die before the age of five?

I guess you're going to say drowning.

Drowning.

Drowning.

Now, my issue with this movie, too, is we're so mad.

We're so mad as an audience, or we're supposed to be when we find out that the uncle slash principal threw her off that little dinghy into Camp Crystal Lake or wherever, whatever that lake is to teach her how to swim.

That is, and I'm not saying it's an effective swimming technique, but that is a way to get young children to learn how to swim.

He was trying to ultimately save her life, and he is portrayed as the villain in that moment.

Well, it was a traumatic moment, and I don't know if in that moment, that's when she discovered her own psychic abilities because she

at that point creates a psychic bond with another drowned child of the lake.

The lake holds his aura, his childlike aura, because that's the other thing.

He is also,

I guess he's dead, but he's a zombie, but yet the ghost of the child still lives independently of the zombie version.

Again,

I have this question too, is.

What am I meant?

Who is Jason?

I think I've literally said, who is Jason?

I'm now having such a eerie flashback.

But I mean, like, really,

for me, I, because the little kid I get, the, the, the, the ghoul, you know, that is Rampaging, I get, but the two concurrently, I'm like, where does this live?

What is, what is this?

And yeah.

And here's another, here's another question.

If I can just take it back to water safety one more time.

She never learns how to swim.

So that's going to come back to haunt her.

I would assume,

I would assume that Jason

also never learned how to swim.

And yet he is somehow, when he's resurrected at the beginning of this movie through an electrical cord that's floating around in the water, when he's electrified back to life, he somehow is able to swim and not drown in that water.

When did he take a water safety class?

June, he's been from 1957 to 1980.

He has been living a good life.

And I guess he only really came back to avenge his mom.

But you could argue that he may have just been working in the local store up until then.

I don't think he needs to breathe because when, correct me if I'm wrong.

Like he's an amphibian?

Well, you know, I mean, like he's under the water.

Do you think when

they leave on the rowboat, right?

When the ship is sunk.

Yes.

By the way, I just want to point out that a show or at least a caught fire, I will say this, a trip from New Jersey to New York on boat, an hour.

That's the normal time.

And they run express ferries every day, multiple ferries a day.

Not even remotely over.

Not even.

And the minute they were like, it's going to be bad weather, they could have easily put everybody on a school bus and had them in the city like within an hour.

My question is, when the boat, yes, when they all abandon the boat and Jason Voorhees, he then, and they row to Manhattan and he follows them to Manhattan.

How?

Swimming under the boat?

I believe, and I'm being honest, I believe he walked along the ocean's floor.

Oh, wow.

I think he does not need to break.

Wow, that's interesting.

And I would love, I would have loved a shot of just him slowly walking along the ocean's floor because that to me makes him now jaws.

That

the looming threat, he just is, he appears too often.

And I a little bit wanted to know, like, how is, like, give me a sense of his movement, not just his presence.

That club scene, there is a club, a, uh, a, a, a dance club on this freighter that they're on.

And when that girl runs into the dance club, She is in the middle of a room that has nothing to hide behind.

It is a dance floor surrounded by some chairs and a bar, right?

You could stand in the center and see every wall.

There's nowhere to hide.

and yet jason is moving around that room as if well you're right teleporting around strangest is she's at one point looking right at him he's like fully across the room for her and all she has to do is not take her eyes off of him

but but by doing so no he is then he evaporates and it and then is suddenly somehow just right right there it is so funny and i like it i don't mind it i just kept being like, why?

What am I meant to intuit from this?

What is this teaching?

Yeah.

This is what I want to get to that was bothering me about this whole movie.

And again, I know there are people out there that are mad at us and we don't know enough about the Jason lore.

I'm so you think there are fans of this property so much so that they would complain about our ignorance?

Oh, they're going to be you got it wrong.

Find a way to talk back to us, the podcast.

I can't wait for the last looks episode.

So this is what I will say that really bummed me out about this movie:

the kills are not fun.

They seem like someone doing chores.

It's like,

like it's a, it's so blunt and, and bald.

It's like, and it's not even, it's not even scary because it's like, Jason, can you take out the trash?

Okay, mom.

Like, that's all it is.

Yeah.

Well, and a part of that is because he doesn't seem to have any motivation.

We don't understand.

It's like, it's not really about killing virgins.

It's not really about just killing teenagers.

It's like, there's no rhyme or reason.

At one point, he seems to get lazy and just toss the guy off the side of the boat.

He's like, well, there's a way in which the principal, the principal can bother.

It's not Jason Voorhees.

Don't talk to me about Jason Voorhees.

And I was like, oh, does he have some connection?

He's older in that way that like Freddy Krueger was seeking revenge on the

camp with.

But that's what I mean.

I mean, that's what I mean.

Like, I felt like, oh, this, this guy is going to be the bridge between Jason Voorhees and the now.

And nope, nope, not at all.

No.

Well, it's interesting you talk about his movements, Jason, because

there were times one of the things I think I like about Jason, if I can say if it's okay to say that.

We should all go around and say some things we like about him.

Like, I feel bad for him that we're being so negative.

Yeah, I think it's really balancing.

I like, I've always liked his lumbering nature, the slow movement.

Okay.

And this movie, because he teleports, he almost, the pace of him seems to have quickened and he pops up hither and thither.

He's everywhere.

And so he's, he doesn't seem to have that lumbering nature.

I will also argue that as someone who can teleport, he is someone who seems to just casually walk downstairs.

Yes.

Like he's walking through the hallways of that ship with no,

he's not sneaking.

I guess he doesn't need to sneak.

He, but he is.

He's supposed to sneak.

Boats are also, yes.

Boats are also notoriously tight, difficult places to negotiate, you know?

Tight, small doors and tiny, narrow stairways and so many ladders.

And he's executing it like a fucking, we don't see it, but he must be executing it like a gymnast.

He must be going through this boat like, and that's what I like about him.

It's like he's not complaining.

You know, he's not complaining.

Right.

I want to jump on that and I want to say

persistence is what I like about Jason.

He's a follow-through.

He does have some follow-through.

And

he stopped a crime.

He stopped a rape.

And, you know, we don't talk about that.

Yeah.

You know, like,

there was no one there to help.

You know, he

certainly don't.

He did a very heroic.

So he's kind of an anti-hero.

Is Jason an anti-hero?

You know, I think it's Tony Secrano.

It's Jason Voorhees.

It's Walter White.

Oh, my God.

You know, I do think that this movie is,

you know, you can feel that they don't know exactly what to do.

And they are changing the story at all times because that principal character is a fun character, but this game in the middle, like he is threatening the pretty,

the hot popular cocaine girl.

Like, if you don't hand in

your biology project what is it camera yeah if you don't hand in your biology project you're not gonna leave the ship and it's like well isn't this a grad cruise haven't they graduated i thought they had graduated they're all worried about their schoolwork i'm like i thought this was a celebration

their banner said congratulations seniors i mean and by the way her biology also like

Some of them seem to know each other.

Some of them seem like complete strangers to each other.

Yeah.

Well, I think the the people that seemed like strangers were the people who were obviously 36-year-old high school students.

But she's sometimes, she's sometimes referring to them as like, oh, I would sleep with that.

That's the only senior I'd sleep with.

I'm like, wait, aren't you a senior?

Are you, are you a different grade?

I mean, it was just so confounding.

One thing I do love about this time period that I'd be remiss to not mention, it took me back because I was a part of this to when, actually, I guess if I was only nine, my sister had her hair like this at this time.

A lot of women and girls, teenagers, had a scrunched up curl that was wet in appearance.

So not a soft curl, but a wet, hard, scrunched curl.

Okay.

And this movie, Remy,

is

just like got that hairdo.

And so many of the girls had that hairdo.

And I'm like, wow, we just don't see that anymore.

And it was a, it was a moment in time, like have your hair look wet and stiff.

Yeah.

And well, it was, you know what it was?

It was

a time when there were very few actually,

very few hair products, especially for people with curly hair that worked.

And that worked right.

So if you, if you were to maintain a curl, it looked wet or weird, like, or, you know, yeah, you like, there were, you didn't have like, you have so many options right now as a curly-haired person for hair care products that are for your hair.

You know, and you used to just get.

Yeah, there's been a lot of innovation, hasn't it?

Yeah, you used to just get like gel.

It was just gel, dep, right, you know, or moose.

Like you put your hand in like a bucket and put it on.

Yes,

a glop, a bunch of glop.

Moose, and then moose happened.

And that was a oh, mousse.

Right.

But the curl itself was like a it was like solid it was like it was like so hard it was a hard curl like a helmet of curls you're forced to have a helmet of curls yes now we haven't even talked about that the the woman who is the i think that she's the first woman we see on the vessel who's singing a song rock and roll girl yeah the rock and roll girl love her loved her i wish she had roll girl

her hair was one of the most amazing things i've ever seen in my life in my lifetime.

I wish there had been more of her and the videographer boy, who are like the alternative kids who are like, you know, doing their thing.

I loved them too.

Oh, my heart broke for that video kid who really wanted to get it on with the hot cokehead.

You know, when he's like, hey, I just want to say Tamara.

Sorry.

No, he was so cute.

He was.

Oh, yeah.

By the way, I did have a problem with Tamara's biology project.

Same.

You know, so she's trying to seduce her teacher to blackmail him so she will pass, but yet it's graduation.

I don't know.

But the thing I was most confused by is that she has painted her organs on her body, like kind of like a Mr.

Goodbody.

But where her stomach is, it seems to be like an arrow pointing down to her crust.

Also,

she wrote that upside down?

How did she write that?

She's a talent.

She's talented.

Well, and I also, and I know she was setting him up, but why was he going to her stateroom?

Well, he needed to get that biology project.

I mean, I will say he kissed her for a little bit too long for my leg

uh you know it was yeah that that could have been cut a little he could have pushed her just looked and done a slight bit of math to find out that this actor who plays the uh uncle and the principal or whatever is in at the time of this movie's release i believe nine years older than i am currently right now wow okay

Which is chilling.

Well, but this is a time, you got to remember, Lethal Weapon, number one, danny glover is 42 crazy and wilford brimley is 49 in cocoon the one that i saw recently was that during all in the family when all in the family archie bunker was uh carol o'connor as archie bunker was 47 years old and and that blew my mind well yeah i mean i'm i'm nearing golden girls age wow i mean i'm actually in it So that's really just we've changed.

Our lives have changed.

We look better than those people who looked a lot older.

Oh, no.

They lived much harder.

Their life expectancies were much shorter.

I guess.

Yeah.

And they didn't have the hair advancement.

Oh, my God.

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And all of that stuff.

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By the way, I got to say, you know, June, I know this is kind of your domain, but I want to just talk about Kelly Hugh, who is the girl that gets murdered in the disco.

I love that outfit she was wearing, the backward suspenders and the you said you shouted it out while we were watching short, short pants with tights.

I also love that.

This is a great outfit.

It is a vintage, yeah, vintage 80s to me.

I feel tight, black tights under like longish shorts.

Yeah.

And it's interesting because, like, I really liked her.

And I really liked this character.

Maybe I related to her of sort of like being adjacent to someone who has this sheen to them and people really love, but also like, and wanting to witness her, but also not wanting to do the things she's doing, but sort of studying her like a sociologist.

I thought it was fascinating, but I was sad that she died so quickly.

I was more interested in her than in Randy.

Yes.

Oh, very much.

I was like, so on board for her, too.

She has such a nice arc.

But then the bummer is kind of what I was saying before is she's one of the only people who we watch die on camera.

And it takes a long time because forever.

She's strangled by Jason.

She is

for like 40 40 seconds and that's that's funny and i'm like why are we watching the one person who has been almost completely like a good person on this in this experience not a villain everybody else is getting like a quick death and we have to watch her suffer no thanks well this is this is what i was trying to circle it back to june when you talked about the rock star Jason seems to go after the cool people first.

Yeah.

Like he does.

Like, I mean, not the guy who was on the boat in the very beginning, who scares his girlfriend by having a hockey mask and a fake knife at the ready that opened up a lot of problems and a lot of questions I have about people who own boats if you had like I like it felt to me very much on par if you own a boat You probably do have a fake knife and a mask in there because you're up to some weird shit

Well, it's I don't disagree with you and now I've always wanted to own a boat.

Okay,

so that's my shame.

What kind of boat do you want to own?

Yeah, what do you got?

What do you got?

I just think it would be fun to go like have a boat you could take out.

Just cruise around and, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I think it would be nice to have like one cabin that you could sleep overnight in, but then basically just like you want to go out there.

But yeah, just like a party boat, like a boat.

You could take friends out.

Sunset cruise, have a cocktail.

Are you strong in the water?

Are you a good swimmer?

Yeah.

She's good.

You're not, Jason?

No.

And I grew up in a beach town.

I grew up like in the water and on boats, and I'm not a strong swimmer at all.

I don't fuck with the ocean.

I'm not interested in boats.

Okay.

Yeah, I am

intermediate.

I'm a middle.

I'm a middle.

I'm not bad, but I'm not great.

I think I have a healthy fear of the ocean and respect for it.

I'm not going out there.

Well, that's why I think it makes you so powerful about it.

Yeah.

Thank you, Paul.

But I'm not going out.

I'm not doing anything crazy in there.

Well, June remembers when we were up in Vancouver, you said you want to swim to that dock.

And I said, I don't think it makes that much sense for me to do that because I was nervous.

I had the kids with me and I was like,

I don't want to put them in a situation.

I don't need to be a hero.

And I think that's an important thing to recognize where you are but you know what though I was glad you didn't but I also as I sat there thought and maybe this is why I was egging you on if you do start to struggle I could come out and you wanted a lot of yeah well that's what you wanted

and this is and this is what June now June

go this is this is how June is saying on campus is boring I want to save someone

she wants to save me and she has a very particular way of doing it which you felt the movie did not show it done properly.

Well, again, we're talking about water safety because when I don't remember who went in to save the son, oh, the Remy's love interest.

Yeah, he jumped in to save her because she was flailing about.

And I said to Paul, because I wanted to remind him, you are approaching someone who's drowning.

You never approach from the front.

You oh, and I was also a Red Cross, you know, trained lifeguard.

So I remember this training.

You swim toward them

and then you dive underneath.

You're under

their legs now.

You come out on the other end and then you grab them from the back.

Wow.

Because they will pull you down.

I remember that from Boy Scouts because we had to learn how to, you know, how to, you know, exactly.

And so I knew that I was preparing with Paul to approach from the back.

So you were preparing, even though he loves me very much, he would pull me down.

While you were encouraging him to go further and to perhaps court exhaustion, you were you were preparing him for your fun of rescuing him she wanted yes she wanted to get like a little bit of that action back that kind of a little bit of that juice no it was an interesting moment because the dock was it was doable but it was like also like yeah that's pretty far so he if he gets there if he gets there that's great and if he doesn't that's great too

well my issue was that i would be with the kids now i will tell you this much when that girl fell off the boat those two popular girls took off so quick those two popular girls don't even wait for her to get back on the boat and then her english teacher is like you care to talk about it like but care to talk about what she was pushing off the boat you can't have

to bring her dog oh well here's okay so when she when she was walking onto the vessel i thought she was blind and why and wait what what what happened to her parents dead in a car accident so she gets a lot of these kind of special treatments i guess so i guess something like that yeah i mean well there was something also that I thought was interesting.

I read this in the research that Molly found this.

Kane Hodder, who famously plays Jason in these movies, people love Kane Hodder.

Shout out to Kane.

Refused to kick that dog into the water.

Yeah.

So they had a scene where Kane Hodder approached the dog and one of the first kills would have been dog off the boat.

But he said, no, it's too mean.

I love it.

I won't do it.

So then the dog just becomes a part of the part of the cast and crew.

So that was that was the fix.

I didn't mind it.

And I actually quite liked that there was a dog present.

That like was that was we

that was

that was weird and unique in a movie that was otherwise confusing.

And I was like, yeah, give me more weird stuff.

Like there's a dog in a bandana running around, you know, like here's the two parts that I thought were

like interesting, intelligent, and like sort of horror savvy.

Number one, the dog.

Yes.

And number two, when our filmmaker student, when he loses his eyeglasses and then has to use the lens of the camera and refocusing it.

Well, he shot.

He did shoot someone.

Those are the.

Let that be known.

Because he couldn't see.

Well, June, that's a, I mean,

so you're up there defending this guy for just firing without glasses on.

Well, at that point, they know there's a murder.

Well, I mean, we don't know.

I mean, we know, but we, you know, we don't know that everyone, I mean, I would argue that he should have maybe taken a beat.

I will say if all of the kills had the true surprise of Jason punching that one kid's head off of his body that was the best I was like give why hasn't this been happening all the time okay that I'm gonna add that as my third favorite part of the movie but I but what I loved about it was how long they spent how long they spent with that other hitting him over and over

and over and over

he Europa-doped ropa him.

Hitting a plastic mask.

Yeah.

That's what's crazy.

He's just punching a hard plastic mask.

It was amazing.

I laughed so hard.

I wish he had just died from exhausting.

By the way, that guy, the boxer,

the girls are watching him from an above.

from an above portal, a skylight, into the gym.

And these two dudes are kicking each other's asses.

Like they are, it's not even like um sparring it it is they're going for it and at what point uh at the on-boat boxing gym and they're not even in a ring i mean

this is an industrial new jersey ferry why is there a boxing area and a sauna what is this

i mean again how long are they there first of all the guy The guys are described, I don't remember who they're talking about, but as like so ripped and is like hunks, like look at those muscles.

And they cut to the guy.

They're both, I'm sorry,

very slender.

Okay, careful, June.

I'm only saying this because it's

these are, these are 1989 ripped bodies.

In 1989, you didn't get more ripped than this.

You couldn't, because just like the hair products, those muscles weren't invented.

Creatine and like, wow, like, yeah, right.

Come gutters didn't exist in the 80s.

No, I think you're right.

We love a cum gutter and you know we love them.

We love them, but it's wow.

That's so interesting.

Because I was like, why are they being described this way?

Maybe you're right.

It's not

really until later that you get those bodybuilder bodies in as cut up bodies.

You know,

I think these kids are the equivalent of ripped.

Well, I think that, I mean,

I guess, but I would argue that the one that they say is really ripped is the skinnier of the two.

Yeah,

you know, and you know, but look, he definitely has the skills.

Um, and you know, I want to, I want to really dive into New York when they finally get to New York.

Oh my god.

Well, I fear, and there's two.

Well, there's one thing I do want to just see: is that principal, or whatever he is, is so aggro to the son's captain when they're rowboating

to New York?

Like, well, you're the son of a captain.

It's like he is like, he never drops it, never drops it.

He never drops that shitty attitude of, I hate these kids.

These kids are dumb.

There is no Jason Voorhees.

Shut up.

Don't you ever say Jason Voorhees again.

And then when confronted with Jason Voorhees, he is still never drops it.

He can never,

so much so that he's sucking the joy out of

what's up with him.

You know what I mean?

Like if he had been killed earlier and it was just the kids and Jason, the movies and maybe the English teacher, that's way more fun.

Yeah.

And also, like, I I wanted him to at least posit his theory.

You don't think that's Jason?

He thinks it's doing this.

Well, the deck end is pretty.

The guy who's saying, the guy who's saying, he's back.

You're all going to talk.

Who's that?

Yeah.

Who's doing this?

And also, I was really disturbed when they're rowboating to, you know, the Statue of Liberty.

They seem to have been at it all night.

No one could take another shot.

Well, I mean, I also, well, I want to talk about why when they got to the Statue of Liberty, the boxer just starts singing a happy happy song all of his friends are dead every they have all had the most trauma they have they share this whole thing that move horror movies do which is everybody has witnessed true atrocities and is kind of unphased and and uh

and that to me is one of the craziest moments like i i get it like you're excited to be in new york but they got to switch the tone back now we're in new york they get to shoot new york they pull up on the weird dock town that looks like something that's out of like a london back alley or something you know know what it is?

It's where

it's where Pretzy

sells his pretzels in New York.

Hercules in her name.

Hercules in New York.

Oh, yeah.

Oh my God.

Well, so they're in this place and immediately these two drug dealers,

they take Rennie and they're like, if you follow us, we'll kill you.

And this is where the principal says to me the dumbest line of the whole movie.

He's like, okay.

First of all, let's not follow them because he will kill her.

And let's split up.

And I was like, to what end?

You know where she, you could follow, like, why are you?

There's no even reason to split up.

They don't know that Jason's around.

They just know that they're good, that this, his goddaughter or whatever, his niece has been kidnapped with very

extreme consequences.

And he is like, let's split up.

And not just let's split up, let's split up entirely.

It's not even, it's not even in groups.

Let's let's individually pair.

It is

that guy

is an absolute moron.

And there are, there's so much blood on his hands.

You know, well,

yeah, give me Jason every day.

I would love over that guy.

I would love in some world, there's like a court case.

We make it like a legal drama, like a Lincoln lawyer, where you do have to put some of these people on trial, the people who survived.

Wait, now you did what?

Now, why would you do this?

And, you know, you could put Jason in a suit, have him sitting at the table.

No, because it ended up working for them at the very end.

But I would like to ask the question of our two last survivors.

Like,

he's chasing you.

You're on the subway.

Yeah, you're scared.

Why go down into the subway,

you know, tunnels?

Why?

Why not go up?

Why not stay in jump?

Why not jump in a cab and drive?

Tell them to drive as far as they can immediately.

Like, how is like they are unable to, I feel like

maybe I'm wrong, but you know, earlier, the idea of Jason rampaging around a summer camp makes sense.

It feels pretty trapped.

You feel trapped there with Jason, right?

Right.

But what I can't understand is you're in Manhattan.

This is now millions and millions and millions of people and cars and distractions and places to hide and places to go.

And you still can't avoid a slow-moving ghoul.

That's where I was like, why is he tied to this?

You got to look after a while.

You got to look inward.

Yes.

What did you do to disprove

yeah you did yes i'm sorry yes at the end of the day the idea that well i guess we got him to new york city why won't you learn how to swim maybe she does after the film okay so here's my question

so do you think that jason

isn't trying to kill renny he just wants to play with her Like he saw her swimming when they were kids.

They were little.

They were swimming and he just want he or he wants her to save him.

does he want to kill her?

And I'm not saying this is what the movie is, but if there was, if the movie hinted that they had some connection in this childhood moment of almost, her almost drowning and him having

so is that why he single-mindedly is chasing after her?

Doesn't know, but that would be more, that would be cooler, you know?

Yeah.

If there felt like she had to have some moment with him or some closure with him, but we both don't swim.

We're the same right and then and then they hug but no what she does do is uh

is drowned him in acid easily attained acid and the street side street side acid that she chucks out of a bucket which would mean her hands are covered in acid oh okay so because here's what i didn't understand so the subway worker tells them like hey the acid wash is going to happen in two days.

You got to get that acid wash ready to go.

You know, every night there's an acid wash and it happens.

It's going to be happening in 10 minutes.

Like, you're going to want to get out of here.

Now, I couldn't believe that she threw acid before the acid wash.

That she didn't wait for the acid wash to happen.

Yeah.

That the movie didn't.

That, like, we're, we're throwing acid on him before we're delivering the promise of what we just set up.

It was just so strange.

Strange.

Yeah.

It really, I struggled to make sense of it.

And, and I, all I wanted was more.

Boy, I loved.

Did you see the Batman sign in Times Square?

Love that.

I didn't see that.

There's a huge, underneath the clock, there's a huge Batman, the movie sign that's cool.

Like all those shots of 1980, late 80s Times Square in New York, I just, I loved so much.

And I was like, oh, I wish this movie had taken place in Manhattan and had

brought us all over the island.

Wouldn't that have been cool?

Do you think they just realized, by the way, just my fourth favorite moment was when they ran into the diner screaming, like, there's a man in a hockey mask.

He's trying to kill us.

And that waitress, who was so perfect, said, Welcome to New York

or whatever her line was.

But

I guess I have to, I don't know what's true, Paul, and I'm sure you'll tell us, but I assume they did write a script called Jason Takes Manhattan, realized they couldn't afford to shoot in Manhattan and do all that exterior stuff, and then just placed it on a.

Well, you're right.

He wrote a movie set in New York that was going to to have scenes in Madison Square Garden, the Brooklyn Bridge, the Statue of Liberty, the Empire State Building.

But the film only had a budget of $5 million.

And they said, well, Paramount's like, there's not enough money to shoot this in New York City.

So they had to rewrite the film and spend more time on the cruise ship.

And actually, most of the scenes.

They can't say more time on the cruise ship.

Like the entire movie is on the cruise ship.

You guys keep saying cruise ship.

I mean, and it is not.

We've called it so many different things.

They wanted it to be a cruise ship.

It's not.

Of course.

The exterior is a fairy.

The interior is a fishery.

Right.

And so here's what I will say

that even the scenes shot in New York were filmed in Vancouver.

So only like only that one day where they clearly had the opening and closing in Times Square and some, you know, and some subway shots, because even the subway shots aren't in New York.

Here's what I'll say.

And I, because we're talking about what we love about Jason and we do love Jason.

And I want to call out Kane Hodder because, June, I think you're a fantastic actress.

Jason I think you're a fantastic actor I uh we were just watching your finding Dory episode last night of Brooklyn 99 it was so

we were laughing

so hard Jason we were laughing oh nice oh that's great what what a performance oh my gosh oh can i tell you something yeah i'm gonna tell you something both uh about that episode because it pertains to this podcast So there's the scene in that episode of Brooklyn 99 where I am, Jake finds me in the hospital and I'm covered in tattoos that that I put on myself, like memento.

Of course.

One of the tattoos,

one of the tattoos that I had them make and put on my body, but you simply do not see it.

Camera didn't pick it up because it was like right down here on my kind of lower trunk was in large letters, Team Fred.

Oh, wow.

Oh, my God.

I made them put, and they were like, what is it again?

And I was like, just put the words Team Fred.

And I was, and I was so excited because I thought I'd placed it well enough that it wouldn't be screaming, but it would be there for people to find and

enjoy.

But it just, it just never caught it right.

And I was heartbroken.

I was like, oh, I wish I just moved it a little more.

Oh my God.

I would have loved that.

Yeah.

Oh, that's a bummer.

That's a bummer.

Well, I'm excited to know that trivia, though.

And for anyone who hasn't seen that episode, I mean, you haven't seen Brooklyn 99, but just go watch that episode.

Jason,

it's truly just an unbelievable purpose.

I'm thrilled to have you back on the show as we're getting through it.

But this is what I wanted to say.

You both are great actors, right?

You, but I, uh, but I'm going to say this.

Thanks, Paul.

Thank you, Paul.

You as well.

Thank you.

But you're not, and neither am I, as good as Kane Hodder, who

vomited on Q

in that final scene,

figured out how much water that he needed to drink.

to vomit.

He had to drink several pitchers of water, not a special effect.

For it to be like right there

vomit on wow

now that is what we've i bet i could do it

i'm sure you could but again back to water safety i don't think it'd be hard i bet if that's the methodology just overload your system so it's right there ready to go i bet i could do it You know, I saw David Blaine do that on stage where he, you know, he spits up a goldfish and stuff like that, and he gets it in and gets it out.

It's

pretty interesting.

I don't think I'd like that part of it.

The goldfish is alive.

Now.

Oh, I definitely wouldn't like that.

But this is the moment.

They do a lot of mask off work.

Now, Jason, you asked earlier in the episode when he was wearing the hood or like the burlap sack, did he have an eye hole?

He had one eye hole.

So his face is always a little bit of a question.

I'm now realizing, I don't think I've seen any of these movies except for the ones we've watched in the past because that's not familiar to me at all.

I thought he always wore the hog.

Same thing.

And so when he picks up the mask to show the kids, I mean, that's a joke, right?

The kids are like, hey, man, give me your money.

And he's like, look at this face.

Like, whoa, hey, man, that's cool.

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

I did love in that moment when he is walking along and he just absolutely kicks the shit out of their boombox that is playing like punk music or whatever.

I love the idea that 1989 street punks like shaved head, skinhead punks are hanging out in Times Square.

It was really funny.

I loved it.

It killed me now.

I will say that this whole ending where his mask is off is really like

it, it really, and I don't want to be a person who judges a book by a cover, but it lessens his power for me.

So, this is the first time that that really is the case.

I think that we're really living in a world where, like, he's got like a, he's got a Muppet face.

Like, he looks like a Muppet.

He is not scary

with mask off, in my opinion.

Do you think that that is just the movie's effort to really drive home that connection between the two of them, that this is that boy?

I guess.

I think that what they really wanted to do was,

I think the intention was they wanted to get him back to being a kid in the next movie.

So I think that they were going to switch spirits

or something like that.

Yeah.

So, but the movie was, it was such a financial bomb that they were never able to kind of do that.

Wow.

Okay.

Yeah,

I think that that's what I read there.

It was like some idea that there was

the kid is taking over again.

But yeah, so when he is that, that little face and all that acid, I found the end to be almost like sad and comical.

Like, I'd rather you just bash him in the head with that mask on.

But once his face is out, and he's like,

he looks like a little cutie.

He looks like a little ghoulie from that movie.

He looked too cute.

I understand.

You can't kill this little cutie.

I understand, Pa.

Well,

he does become humanized, absolutely.

Yeah, I think that's true.

As well as the little boy flashbacks that Rennie is having also humanizes him in a way.

And

again, there's a way in which I feel like with a Jason, with a Freddy, that I want to feel as though they're righting some wrong.

You know,

they are creatures of vengeance or retribution or something like that.

And with Freddie, that always seems clear.

But with Jason, and Michael Myers, I guess, I'm not quite sure the why.

Well, you know, it seems like at this point, I guess the lore would be that he protects Camp Crystal Lake.

Like, that would be...

Is he from what?

Like, hand jobs?

I mean, by the way, that couple, we didn't even talk about that.

They are making out she is naked.

He's like, oh, hold on, let me drop the anchor.

It's like, now?

Now drop the anchor?

Why don't you drop the anchor before you're doing any of this stuff?

It didn't look like it just happened.

Well, then he also then returns.

He has brought a collapsible prop knife and a Jason Voorhees hockey mask on the boat.

Well, I mean, this is why I tell you, I don't trust boat people.

You know, this is why I don't trust him.

Well, that was what was hard about the beginning of the movie, too, because it's just like, gosh, like, us girls have to be...

scared of the bad guys, but we also have to be scared of the good guys.

Like, and that was pretty depressing.

I think that, I think, yeah, I think this movie is

really going to wake a lot of people up.

You just need to be scared of the guys.

Exactly.

Yeah, just every guy in this movie is not, except for the boxer, is pretty much making bad decisions throughout the entire.

And again, and the cameraman.

Well, the cameraman did kill somebody.

The cameraman's a little sketchy, but I will say, I feel like the captain's son, Renny's love interest, he seemed to be like, he seemed to be a top-notch kid, I felt like.

Oh, yeah.

What kind of, what kind of shockumentary was the camera guy trying to do?

I mean, he's putting it together, a reality shockumentary?

Oh, I hope that I wish that they would have released that as like extra features.

It was like his that's a found footage movie.

Have they ever done Friday the 13th found footage?

Jason put this in the list of the other.

We had another great movie.

Oh, we found that Marlon Wayne's already did that.

Oh, oh.

Yeah, we've come up with some good horror movies here on the show.

Yeah,

my pitch, June, was what if everybody's Halloween, lawn Halloween decorations came to life and started attacking the neighborhood.

Well, that's really like relevant to us right now because we have a brand new lawn decoration just this year.

That is what precipitated.

That's one of the

part of what

precipitated Darby.

And this is what you're missing out on Last Looks.

If you're not listening to Last Looks, Jason and I are getting, we're pitching franchises here.

That's a great idea.

Right?

Marlon Wayans already did it.

And Rob Wriggle.

And Rob Wriggle is in it.

That's what we found out.

We went through this whole arc where we discovered this.

I had this great idea.

We started talking about it, blah, blah, blah.

And then in the chat, it was like, boop, here it is.

And boop.

And then Paul was like, wait, I think Wiggles in this.

It was a real shock.

I will also just say that the opening kill of that girl who's like waiting underneath the

window.

Why did not?

Did she not swim?

Jump off the boat and fucking swim to the sky.

Nobody moves in this movie.

They all commit to their death very quickly.

And that's what's interesting.

All the women do.

The men kind of have at least a moment of trying to fight, but the women all stand there or crouch more likely and wait

and just wait and then yes and wait wait and switch and look often they honestly get heavy

don't even scream really no like there was a bunch of silent deaths yeah they just silently accept their fate i think that the the first really

the first guy who dies is the reason why he takes such a long time is he's looking at what's in jason's hand he's like is that from me or is that just tubing because they don't think tubing yeah yeah he's like although it it does, it looks like intestines are stuck on the end of it.

Like, it's like, what is yeah, it was so odd.

Um, obviously, we had opinions about this movie.

There are people out there with a different opinion, and people that I'm sure are going to be mad at us about having these opinions.

We don't need to hear from you.

It is now time for second opinions.

The movie was a piece of shit,

yet this person recommends it.

Tell me what is the message.

Maybe that art is subjected.

I need a second opinion.

Thank you, John LeJois.

Okay, so Friday the 13th, part eight has a 4.7 out of 5 stars.

That's the average review on Amazon.

That's 564 total reviews.

83% of them are five stars.

Let's get into it.

James writes: This is the Titanic version of Friday the 13th.

They get stuck out in the middle of the sea with Jason on board, and then he goes on a killing spree.

Buy this movie, you won't regret it.

Five stars.

Right, we got it, right?

Easy, easy to go.

And then it goes to Movie Man Kev, who writes, not only is this a great addition to the series, it also perfectly encapsulates my mood when visiting New York City.

Which is what?

What is that?

Yeah.

Yeah, movie

Wanting to Kill Everybody?

Movie Man Kev,

that could be used in evidence.

And he wrote that in 2019.

So this is not an old review.

Lauren B.

Floss writes, this movie is different from the other Friday the 13th movies.

This is brand new.

Jason spends most of the movie on a boat.

So it's not as bad as it might sound.

If you're tired of the old Friday the 13th movies, then get this.

You'll love it.

So she just likes location difference.

Like she's tired of cabins and woods.

I get that.

Now, this is the final one that I want to read from Nick.

I know a lot of people, and this is all written in caps, but I won't read it like that.

I know a lot of people seem to hate this film and say it's one of the worst in the series, but I have always enjoyed it.

Sure, there's only two scenes or so in New York, and the majority of the movie takes place on a cruise ship.

But I think that this movie is very good.

The ending is king of weird, but this is a movie that you can just sit down and enjoy for what it is and i have to say i love the shot of times square with the music towards the end with the times square lit up it makes me feel good so happy to have this movie in my collection so this person just likes a b-roll footage of by the way i agree with that i i have i wrote it multiple times that i loved all these shots of old new york i wanted to buy them in northern town project yeah like come on let's do it uh i do want to carve uh for halloween our pumpkin like jason like a jason jack-o-lantern I think that we can maybe get that.

Ooh, that'd be cool.

That's a kind of a fun thing we should do.

Like I said, we are coming to New York this November.

Jason and I will also be in D.C.

and Boston.

How did this get made?

We'll be in New York and Philly.

Check us out.

Go to hdtgm.com.

We have amazing guests at Dinosaur Improv from Edie Patterson and Danielle Schneider and Mary Holland and Rob Hubel.

It's going to be an awesome time.

And when we go to Philly, we were talking about maybe even bringing a bad boys back.

Maybe we bring a bad boys back to Philly.

We will see.

We will see.

Bad boys, bad boys.

What are you going to do?

They're probably going to do the wobble.

I would hope.

We got to have the wobble one more time.

Jason, June, anything you want to talk about?

Promote things?

Well, yeah, I guess Weapons is now on DVD.

So if you haven't seen it yet, I think it's a great movie to watch anytime, but especially during spooky season.

Yeah, great movie.

Really fun.

Incredible.

I am going to shout it.

Listen, if you're listening to this and you've got a little kid at home, why not pack him up and bring him to Gabby's Dollhouse?

Oh my gosh, people have been tweeting at this all weekend.

Yeah.

I am in the movie Gabby's Dollhouse.

I voice a stuffed animal, a little bear, very cute named Chumsley, who is a villain.

So go and bring your kids to Gabby's Dollhouse.

Inexplicably, somehow, here I am 20 years into this career, and this is without a doubt the best reviewed movie I've ever been in.

It is, was it was number two at the box office this weekend.

The most successful movie.

Well, Jason, I will tell you that apparently at AMC Theaters, they are selling a keychain with your character on it.

So

people said that you are represented very well.

I'll send you the picture of it.

Yeah, that people are very excited that you are in Gabby's dollhouse.

Oh, I love it.

Anyway, I've been hearing from lots of friends who have little kids who are like, dude, this was crazy.

That is amazing.

Very funny.

So check out that.

And

that's about it.

And you can also check out my Substack.

It's free.

Just go to substack.com, I guess.

Anyway, a big thank you to everybody who makes this show possible.

Shout out to our super producer, Scott Sonny, who is filling in for Aver Halley while she is on leave.

And all the reports that we are getting about Avril is that she is getting better by the day.

So keep on sending that love to Averill.

Also, a shout out to our other producer, Molly Reynolds.

If you have an issue with this movie, you want to give us a shout out, you want to talk about this a little bit more, give us a call.

Head to the Discord, and we will break it all down on Last Looks.

But don't tell us that we got the mythology wrong.

We don't want to get involved in any of that garbage.

Maybe we'll have a shirt.

Maybe we'll have a shirt as good as the Geek Squad shirt.

We don't know.

We'll figure it out later on.

I also want to give a shout out to our engineer, Casey Holford.

And remember, give me a call at 619-A-S-K-P-A-U-L 619ASKPAUL at 619-Paul Ask

to leave all your comments about Jason Takes Manhattan.

We'll see you next time.

Bye for now.

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