“Cute Girls With Sick Minds” (w/ Matt & Bowen)

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Speaker 51 look man

Speaker 53 oh i see my eye on my bowen look over there wow is that culture yes goodness wow las culturistas

Speaker 56 ding dong las culturistas calling we are

Speaker 61 what are we doing first of all this is a very interesting setup setup for lack of a better word we are sitting across the dining room from each other and bowen let's just say it right here right now has a long one Bowen Yang has got a long one.

Speaker 63 It's actually really coacher number 15.

Speaker 51 Bowen Yang has got a long one.

Speaker 63 I do mean dining room table, but we are.

Speaker 15 Pretty average-sized, I would say.

Speaker 32 Listen.

Speaker 52 Take the SS.

Speaker 52 Take the SS, goddammit.

Speaker 41 I'm here saying you got an hour-draw long, quote-unquote, dining room table.

Speaker 69 And I was actually talking about the dining room table.

Speaker 62 We're across from it, looking at each other.

Speaker 64 Very 50 Shades of Grey.

Speaker 41 Why is it giving...

Speaker 16 Oh, 50 Shades of Gray.

Speaker 72 We also have recorded in the past in a similar supposition me here.

Speaker 15 I'm saying this is also very Power Couple, which is the web series with Matt Rogers and Sudie Green. We've talked about this on the pod before.

Speaker 62 But I just can't believe that our reference in Power Couple was so clear that you'd go from 50 Shades of Grey right to Power Couple.

Speaker 77 Thank you, sister.

Speaker 79 Everyone, go on YouTube, look up Power Couple, Justin, Brittany, Matt Rogers, Sudie Green, directed by Peter Kelly.

Speaker 80 We've really known each other a long time, haven't we?

Speaker 81 We've seen many

Speaker 81 memories.

Speaker 82 We've seen many seasons of each other, haven't we?

Speaker 61 Speaking of seasons, it's Pride Month.

Speaker 84 Speaking seasons, it's Pride Month.

Speaker 61 It's finally Pride Month, July.

Speaker 32 Finally, July.

Speaker 9 The year when...

Speaker 71 I'm sorry, the month when.

Speaker 85 No, I didn't get it right the first time.

Speaker 38 July is the year.

Speaker 32 July is

Speaker 64 the year.

Speaker 71 Pride month when Harvey Milk assassinated Adolf Hitler.

Speaker 62 Thank God my girl came through.

Speaker 9 We smoked a little.

Speaker 51 Little?

Speaker 75 I would say we smoked a lot because we're preparing.

Speaker 89 We're strapping in.

Speaker 73 There's a lot going on.

Speaker 16 A lot going on at the moment we have title of ebb

Speaker 9 by the way jared is here as an audience slash he's gonna come in later we have him he's a special correspondent to a very special cultural issue we have i think this cultural issue will take the entire real estate of the episode you don't know that yet we haven't even brought it up yet i have you know what i haven't even done yet What?

Speaker 96 Cuckoo, what a sick mind.

Speaker 9 Well, here we go. We're already now.

Speaker 97 We're telling you about the meal. We're not time yet.

Speaker 4 Okay, what are we preparing for?

Speaker 77 What are we strapping in for?

Speaker 69 We are strapping.

Speaker 15 We are literally, as soon as we're done recording this episode, we are going to the airport to the new Delta One lounge.

Speaker 103 At JFK, we're rolling the dice and crossing enemy

Speaker 105 lines. I almost said grounds.

Speaker 67 We're crossing over.

Speaker 85 We're saying, LaGuardia, thank you for everything you've done.

Speaker 98 Thank you for the merch. Thank you for the merch.

Speaker 15 We've got to fly out of JFK and we're trying their new Delta Sky Lounge, which just opened days ago.

Speaker 32 We're very excited.

Speaker 96 Like a cute girl in aesthetic merch.

Speaker 106 I cannot wait to to have a buddy.

Speaker 2 I'm going to have a something.

Speaker 69 What?

Speaker 69 What did you think I was going to say?

Speaker 107 I didn't know.

Speaker 7 I was already on the edge of my seat.

Speaker 108 Would you have an Aberl Spritz at the airport?

Speaker 111 Like, what is the vibe you bring in a cocktail sense to the airport lounge?

Speaker 72 Airport lounge cocktail is very specific

Speaker 112 context, right?

Speaker 113 I think.

Speaker 41 Don't lie.

Speaker 64 Miss Calendar Grony.

Speaker 114 Miss Calendar Grony. That's really good.

Speaker 18 Did they make that?

Speaker 62 Let me tell you something.

Speaker 35 If you ask, I bet they can figure it out quick.

Speaker 52 I think I just...

Speaker 3 No, people don't make that, do they?

Speaker 41 Mez Cal Negroni.

Speaker 77 I would be...

Speaker 8 You want to start a bet?

Speaker 41 And we can let the readers come. We love to cut this.

Speaker 16 And readers.

Speaker 115 Why do we have to cut this? What do you mean?

Speaker 69 Okay, Ms. Calendroni, sorry.

Speaker 116 What did you have to Google and see if it was a real thing?

Speaker 109 Oh my God. My girl is so burnt.

Speaker 16 No, that's not.

Speaker 20 No, it's not being cut.

Speaker 6 That is the vulnerability that the judges are looking for.

Speaker 25 When you had to look up what Mez Calegroni was to make sure it was even a thing.

Speaker 72 Because I'm so tired.

Speaker 38 Oh my God, the T-word.

Speaker 84 You know what?

Speaker 119 I'm done avoiding the T-word.

Speaker 45 I'm back to the city.

Speaker 41 I'm so happy my girl came alive.

Speaker 6 Take them down. Take them down right now.

Speaker 120 They've criticized you for saying the T-word.

Speaker 100 Get them. I.

Speaker 100 I'll get them. No.

Speaker 71 Get them. I don't want to.
This is what we're cutting.

Speaker 121 I don't want to reference them.

Speaker 78 We're cutting this. Okay, hold on.

Speaker 16 No. We're back.
We're back. We're back.

Speaker 104 How high did you get?

Speaker 79 How high did I get? Yeah.

Speaker 71 Not very high, but this is what I'm working with. This is why I'm T-word.

Speaker 82 No, explain.

Speaker 115 And I literally do want to know the ins and outs of what you've been through because I looked at all the rap photos and it looked emotional.

Speaker 61 And I have to say, I could not be more excited.

Speaker 6 And I don't think people are really hearing me when I say how good this movie is going to be that you just rapped.

Speaker 81 And I want to hear all about it.

Speaker 41 Sister, thank you.

Speaker 124 I am

Speaker 88 on the edge of my seat.

Speaker 32 So, whatever.

Speaker 73 We wrapped at like four in the morning in Vancouver on Friday.

Speaker 72 I have for the next day, the best I could do ticket-wise was when we booked the flight, of course, the return flight to New York, was 1 p.m.

Speaker 71 out of Vancouver, layover in Salt Lake City.

Speaker 69 So, the Vancouver flight to Salt Lake City flight lands at 4:45 if it's on schedule.

Speaker 98 Yeah.

Speaker 93 And then the Salt Lake City to JFK flight takes off at 5:30.

Speaker 73 We were

Speaker 78 only like 45 minutes delayed.

Speaker 79 I get there.

Speaker 3 I you got scooped.

Speaker 72 I did not get scooped.

Speaker 83 Oh.

Speaker 86 I missed the connection.

Speaker 91 Oh, that's, I guess what I mean is like they, for some reason, I was thinking of scoop.

Speaker 119 I thought you meant like they came to scoop me.

Speaker 100 No, no. Throw me to the other side of the terminal.
No, I didn't.

Speaker 62 Negative. Pejorative.

Speaker 121 Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 94 So pejorative, I got scooped.

Speaker 59 And

Speaker 117 I'm so sorry, sister.

Speaker 52 I'm just gonna go. No, it's okay, sister.

Speaker 82 So

Speaker 71 my next flight out, I just basically had a seven-hour layover in Salt Lake City, which, by the way, very chic airport.

Speaker 45 Can I say, do you then, because seven hours is giving to me the option to leave.

Speaker 95 You did not leave this.

Speaker 58 I did not leave because here's my, and this is the thing.

Speaker 94 This is my own thing.

Speaker 72 So funny, by the way, is about this company in a loving, non-pejorative way. Yeah.

Speaker 15 I was like,

Speaker 87 if I'm in a Delta Lounge, I'm happy.

Speaker 116 But for seven hours, actually, you know what?

Speaker 107 One time I did spend seven hours there.

Speaker 38 Also, if you were to leave and explore, you're right.

Speaker 7 That airport is a cute airport.

Speaker 55 So shout out.

Speaker 86 And I love Salt Lake.

Speaker 65 I just did not feel that after like rapping this, like after like being at work, not like

Speaker 57 12 hours before.

Speaker 80 Girl, you're here.

Speaker 45 You're in one piece.

Speaker 3 Yes.

Speaker 71 That's like the important part.

Speaker 78 Anyway, I flew in at, I got in on a red eye yesterday, landed yesterday morning.

Speaker 71 And so that's why, because I even took one hit of this, my brain is on yet again zero.

Speaker 78 But I think that did not stop us last week from having a great episode.

Speaker 25 No, I actually think when our brains are on zero, we are the most open.

Speaker 6 I do want to say, because the table is so long, it is extra long.

Speaker 49 It's not that long. No, it's so long.

Speaker 6 That means I am restricted from being able to wrap my arms around you because, sweetheart,

Speaker 104 the fact that you

Speaker 76 are so

Speaker 41 Kendrick Lamar humble.

Speaker 9 Oh my my God.

Speaker 91 That I was like, please tell us about everything you've been through. Like, you must be exhausted.

Speaker 85 And you still talked about the flight.

Speaker 90 I meant the process of doing the film and like what you guys made.

Speaker 38 I still want to hear about.

Speaker 24 But you, you really are just, it was about that flight.

Speaker 62 Brain on zero.

Speaker 132 Yeah.

Speaker 94 Brain on zero.

Speaker 34 Do you even remember shooting the film?

Speaker 100 Not really.

Speaker 73 Just kidding.

Speaker 100 Very emotional last day.

Speaker 82 I got the girls into couples therapy.

Speaker 77 Really?

Speaker 119 Best believe I'm still bejeweled.

Speaker 40 And the girls meaning Kelly Marie and Lily?

Speaker 72 Kelly Marie, Lily, Keejan Han, who plays my love interest, who was very sad to leave the country of Canada, or I should say the VPN of my account, because he was like, they don't have this in Korea.

Speaker 98 He looked it up.

Speaker 78 He was like, there's nothing like this in Korea.

Speaker 129 There's no VPN.

Speaker 65 There's no VPN or couples therapy to show.

Speaker 73 There's no Korean orna.

Speaker 16 My God. Isn't that that static?

Speaker 38 At least we know that's a role.

Speaker 24 That's a star we have to find.

Speaker 77 The Korean orna.

Speaker 83 The Korean Orna is going to take over the world.

Speaker 77 Every country should have an orna.

Speaker 38 And they do. They just haven't been discovered yet.
That's why we're announcing South Korea's next Orna.

Speaker 80 First Orna.

Speaker 128 We are the hosts of the new reality competition series, South Korea's First Orna.

Speaker 45 Dozens of therapists across the land are coming with the one goal of becoming this nation's Orna.

Speaker 64 Matt Rogers and Boen Yang host this cut throat but therapeutic competition.

Speaker 134 Who is Orna?

Speaker 16 Oh my god.

Speaker 51 All I'm picturing.

Speaker 77 All I'm picturing is Orna Grodneck standing in like insane like American Idol stage lighting.

Speaker 133 Being like, I guess I'm just going to go out there and give it my best shot and show them what I can do. They come out, stand in front of the judges, sit down.
Now, what's going on here?

Speaker 6 And the judges, aka you and I just go through 30 different therapy sessions.

Speaker 75 And at the end, we find out who really got us together.

Speaker 41 That's and only they can go to the finals where they have to sing.

Speaker 33 Then they have to sing.

Speaker 55 I need this.

Speaker 63 Well, we can probably have AI make it.

Speaker 84 Oh my god. No, they no, we can't.

Speaker 116 AI could never fucking do this.

Speaker 41 Owen.

Speaker 55 They could. No, I'm telling you.

Speaker 61 Let me tell you something. I'm here to speak for AI.

Speaker 62 We could do anything, Queen.

Speaker 77 Anything we put our mind to, we can do better.

Speaker 4 You know, wait, you know what?

Speaker 41 I've been really enjoying.

Speaker 100 Yes, tell me.

Speaker 52 Drag Race.

Speaker 88 The Drag Race All-Stars.

Speaker 78 I am so behind, but I'm so happy to hear that.

Speaker 126 Speaking of Reality Competition Series, God, imagine a Drag Race version of Next Orna.

Speaker 100 No, I.

Speaker 137 Roast each other.

Speaker 119 I don't want any Ornas in drag.

Speaker 60 I think orna could be a really good snatch game.

Speaker 77 Orna would be an amazing. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 16 Oh, honestly. Oh my god.

Speaker 90 Someone get on it.

Speaker 33 So who are you being?

Speaker 90 Dr. Orna girl.

Speaker 16 I love Dr.

Speaker 51 Orna Girl.

Speaker 52 I love her. She's funny.

Speaker 64 She's funny.

Speaker 55 Well, how are you going to make a funny funny?

Speaker 138 Oh my God.

Speaker 38 You honestly could.

Speaker 62 She is a better snatch game character than like, I don't know, any of the ones I say I'll do.

Speaker 87 You found your snatch game.

Speaker 75 I did. You know what I realized the other day?

Speaker 140 All along in my life, I've known my karaoke song, but I've never done it.

Speaker 105 Have you talked about this?

Speaker 137 No, I just, you ever have that feeling when you're at the karaoke bar and you leave with a state, with in a state of despair?

Speaker 141 Because you're something missing.

Speaker 88 Something was missing.

Speaker 125 You didn't sing your song.

Speaker 113 You did not get there.

Speaker 120 And you want to know why?

Speaker 114 It's because you get your hands on the book and you're so spoiled for choice that you're like, your brain stops working.

Speaker 116 Why did you and Jared just point to each other?

Speaker 33 Like, y'all have an inside joke.

Speaker 119 No, we were, no, no, no.

Speaker 72 I was telling Jared about like the whole James Seamus treatise on like Netflix and how it's running the culture. And like, and Jared and I were talking about how, like,

Speaker 142 choice, like, oh, oh, oh, oh, this book that he was reading about the birth of the American supermarket and how it's the same thing.

Speaker 112 Like, when you, when human beings are overwhelmed with choice, our brains just shut down.

Speaker 143 Damn. Yes.

Speaker 137 Anyway, I actually think you ever be walking around.

Speaker 64 We're getting so hopeful.

Speaker 6 You ever be walking around New York and you know you have to eat lunch, but you don't

Speaker 140 eat for an hour and a half.

Speaker 85 Oh, and you just keep walking.

Speaker 91 This has been me.

Speaker 56 Now.

Speaker 142 What's your karaoke song? Yes, yes. We need to get back on track.

Speaker 71 First, now we need to go back towards the central question that we asked at the beginning of this episode.

Speaker 79 Let's see, 13 minutes ago, which is, where are we going?

Speaker 71 What are we doing?

Speaker 129 Okay.

Speaker 63 Well, the first thing I want to say is that my karaoke song going forward.

Speaker 18 Yes.

Speaker 62 Is get out of my dreams, get into my car by the one, the only thing.

Speaker 16 Tell me about this.

Speaker 86 Because I saw you post that story, that song on your stories, and I go, like, Matt's really having a moment with

Speaker 32 this song.

Speaker 82 I am, but how did you, like, how did this come up?

Speaker 109 Well, it came up because I was

Speaker 6 really in my room, and I was, I guess what I was doing was I was sort of

Speaker 45 smoking weed.

Speaker 124 And

Speaker 45 one thing led to another.

Speaker 146 And I just realized I know what the most fun song of all time is.

Speaker 61 And I know what song sits in my voice the best.

Speaker 41 And that's on

Speaker 70 my college.

Speaker 6 I gave it a shot in my room.

Speaker 100 I give us a shot now.

Speaker 87 In my room.

Speaker 7 Would you like to hear some of my song?

Speaker 77 I'm Clamoring.

Speaker 62 This is my rendition of Get Out of My Dreams, Get Into My Car by Billy Ocean.

Speaker 66 Who's that lady

Speaker 135 coming down the road?

Speaker 135 Who's that lady?

Speaker 135 Who's that woman walking down the road?

Speaker 51 What's the score?

Speaker 135 I'll be the sun shining on you.

Speaker 90 Hey, Cinderella, step in your shoes.

Speaker 135 I'll be your non-stop lover. Get a while you get.

Speaker 138 Non-stop miracle. I'm your man.

Speaker 135 Get out of my dream.

Speaker 51 Hey.

Speaker 135 Get into my car.

Speaker 138 Get out of my dream.

Speaker 135 Get in the back seat, baby. Get into my car.

Speaker 104 How did we feel about that?

Speaker 57 Nothing has ever felt more like in your spirit

Speaker 79 than both like the words of the song, the way you performed it audio.

Speaker 41 And not every word was even right.

Speaker 99 Right. It didn't matter.

Speaker 38 I'm ready to start singing that around my country.

Speaker 136 How do you feel about stepping into your destiny?

Speaker 110 I feel that the key was a little high

Speaker 123 that I picked up.

Speaker 147 I'm asking you how you feel, but I feel like I conquered it.

Speaker 7 I feel like it was definitely

Speaker 63 a profound, spirited vocal.

Speaker 82 I'm not talking about the vocal.

Speaker 52 How do I feel?

Speaker 82 I'm talking about the emotional

Speaker 136 of stepping into your destiny.

Speaker 113 Let me tell you something.

Speaker 25 There's nothing like music ever.

Speaker 101 And that's rule of culture number 30.

Speaker 52 Let me tell you something.

Speaker 55 There's nothing like music. Let's not like music ever.

Speaker 89 And when I feel you connect with a song, and you know this because I've seen you connect with a song.

Speaker 97 And to live it.

Speaker 63 Lives and far between.

Speaker 105 Yes.

Speaker 148 So beautifully that people scream from outside the venue.

Speaker 67 Bo and Yang used to do.

Speaker 78 No, no, we're not doing this.

Speaker 149 No, I asked, answer the question.

Speaker 105 How do I feel?

Speaker 91 Now that I've, I feel

Speaker 63 like, like, I'm telling you, like, I'm ready to step into any atmosphere and bring the mood up when I have that track play.

Speaker 142 Can I just say?

Speaker 131 It's me and the rest of my future with that song.

Speaker 86 Because can I just say, and this is, this is just out of love and not like actual jealousy, but I'm I'm so jealous.

Speaker 7 What do you mean? Because no, because you didn't let me say the one that you do.

Speaker 71 Well, here, before that, though, I know what you're going to say, but

Speaker 71 I want to say, like, I,

Speaker 78 gosh, like, I have never connected with any piece of media entertainment art the way you just did with that song.

Speaker 7 That isn't true.

Speaker 38 And you forget yourself.

Speaker 140 in the words of the amazing Angelica from Hamilton.

Speaker 131 Because

Speaker 99 you're like me

Speaker 62 go you know i listened to the whole thing today satisfied

Speaker 32 i was amazing i've been there something i've been on one all day you as well

Speaker 64 you can use words hi we and then i can pick you up you've been on one all day

Speaker 49 i'm sorry i just yelled at you i'm sorry i just saw that you're just so crazy so he really you yelled at him you yelled at him

Speaker 41 okay thank you i know what you're gonna say say.

Speaker 105 Because you notice he does these little tactics to throw off the scent.

Speaker 75 But I won't.

Speaker 63 I'm like a dog with a bone with this moment in culture, which is when Bowen Yang steps forth to perform the song, Bang Bang, My Baby Shot Me Down by Nancy Sinatra in the style of Lady Gaga.

Speaker 144 And the aesthetic of Shera.

Speaker 120 Let's say it's in the great tradition

Speaker 110 of divas.

Speaker 6 You haven't seen anything.

Speaker 7 This is what I'm going to say.

Speaker 63 And I'm sitting back in my chair and I am at the end of a very long table.

Speaker 62 And I'm so happy this is where I'm sitting because I can look my sister dead in her eyes and say, this is what I'm going to say.

Speaker 6 We will do these two songs next year at the Culture Awards.

Speaker 92 Oh my God.

Speaker 92 Oh my God.

Speaker 55 Oh my God.

Speaker 55 And

Speaker 38 no one understands what the implications of that are right now, but you will.

Speaker 111 Are enormous.

Speaker 62 And I have never been happier in my

Speaker 89 entire life because I know what's going to happen.

Speaker 71 The greatest gift you've ever given me.

Speaker 152 See the

Speaker 76 future.

Speaker 7 I can see the future.

Speaker 110 And it is so bright.

Speaker 55 That's what we'll do.

Speaker 127 That's what we'll do.

Speaker 29 You ever just stop in the middle of a crazy day and realize, wow, I needed a break.

Speaker 132 It literally happened to me yesterday.

Speaker 154 I cracked open a Diet Coke, sat back for five minutes.

Speaker 155 Total reset.

Speaker 27 Right?

Speaker 8 There's something about the crispy, refreshing taste of an ice-cold Diet Coke.

Speaker 44 It just hits.

Speaker 156 It's my little me moment, like make time for a Diet Coke break, you know?

Speaker 158 Exactly.

Speaker 5 Diet Coke is the perfect companion companion for all break moments.

Speaker 153 Diet Coke Coke.

Speaker 50 This is my taste.

Speaker 159 Two questions. What are you doing right now?

Speaker 25 And why aren't you on a Virgin Voyages Caribbean cruise?

Speaker 161 Well, obviously, you were listening to us. Smart use of your time.
True.

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Speaker 31 Very true.

Speaker 161 This gives me an idea.

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Speaker 170 curated dining next okay good choice that's what virgin voyages offers second question would you rather have an overstuffed itinerary or the freedom to explore stunning oh i want the freedom to explore stunning caribbean destinations again i think i see where this quiz is going virgin voyages is amazing yeah absolutely the cruises are kid free from sunrise yoga to late night cocktails every moment is made for grown up fun nothing against kids kids are awesome but sometimes it's nice to be kid free and there's so much included value over $1,000.

Speaker 43 Right.

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Speaker 37 Wi-Fi, soda, top-tier entertainment, over 20 restaurants, and even group fitness classes.

Speaker 25 No hidden fees, no surprise charges.

Speaker 172 Virgin Voyages gives you the kind of luxury you actually deserve.

Speaker 173 And you know what?

Speaker 19 I deserve luxury.

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Speaker 179 Okay, so you know how the world is a chaotic, swirling ball of total stress right now?

Speaker 134 Well, we have a new Hulu show from Ryan Murphy that will give you the much-needed break from reality.

Speaker 118 And whether you know it or not, you are already completely obsessed.

Speaker 178 It's called All's Fair, and Ms.

Speaker 180 Kardashian plays Allura Grant, the most in-demand divorce attorney in Los Angeles.

Speaker 181 Get it?

Speaker 130 It's All's Fair, as in All's Fair in Love and War and she's a divorce attorney.

Speaker 30 Love it.

Speaker 182 Now let's talk ensemble because Allura does not go it alone.

Speaker 36 She breaks off from a crusty male-dominated law firm to start her own legal coven with some absolute forces of nature.

Speaker 187 Naomi Watts, Nici Nash Betts, Tiana Taylor, and Glenn Close.

Speaker 108 Yeah, hello, Glenn Close.

Speaker 110 And of course you need a villain, so say hello to Sarah Paulson as the nemesis.

Speaker 158 And these ladies are brilliant, complicated, fearless, and when they all come together, nothing can stop them.

Speaker 189 I'm talking about the lawyers on the show and the actresses playing them, by the way.

Speaker 5 But hey, if you're thinking this will be all courtroom drama and no drama drama, relax.

Speaker 189 Allura, that's Kim's character, has plenty of twists and turns in her personal life.

Speaker 191 Her professional life crashes into her personal one, and uh-oh.

Speaker 130 So, how does this super lawyer fix her own mess?

Speaker 91 With a little help from her besties, of course.

Speaker 187 So, this series has it all: scandalous secrets, high-stakes courtroom drama, more shifting alliances than Kim's other shows, some OMG twists, and friendships that rise above it all.

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Speaker 188 Everybody makes compromises in their lives.

Speaker 40 Lame men, underpaying jobs. Well, stop.

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Speaker 193 And never settle for anything less than fabulous when it comes to your next streaming obsession.

Speaker 56 All's fair, now streaming on Hulu, and on Hulu on Disney Plus for bundle subscribers.

Speaker 53 Terms apply, drama guaranteed.

Speaker 98 And to finally go back to the original question that was posed at the beginning of this episode, we're at my house. We're hours away from going to the airport to Amsterdam to go see Taylor.

Speaker 58 And then we will be in Cecilia next week.

Speaker 78 And we will probably be giving you an episode from there.

Speaker 62 We will be giving you, for the very first time, an episode from not Europe, because we've done an episode from Europe.

Speaker 139 This is, I guess, first from Italy.

Speaker 16 From Italy.

Speaker 194 This is a huge moment in the box.

Speaker 71 Our first Italian episode.

Speaker 7 Our first ever italian episode wow do you know what i think is gonna happen what just because spiritually i think that this is sort of what tends

Speaker 63 yeah yeah i feel this happening i can't explain how lady gaga is gonna make and some type of announcement while we're there

Speaker 131 period like there's a reason why we're going to italy there's so i can feel in the air When I lick my fingers and put them up in the air, I can literally feel Gaga in the air.

Speaker 4 And I will say,

Speaker 82 you feel LG7.

Speaker 109 I do.

Speaker 62 kiss your fingers I actually have been watching quite a few YouTube videos about what may be in the cards for LG7 and I find myself not ready to make a prediction but to sort of start to forecast what this is gonna be have you noticed a lot of black and white imagery in her recent press a lot of sort of

Speaker 107 oh my god even allusions to like the dark side of the moon the light side of the moon that duality there are some people online who think that she might be giving like a dante Dante Eligheri, like Paradiso, like sort of heaven and hell, black and white, sort of like

Speaker 7 something like that.

Speaker 100 Like, I'm gagging.

Speaker 62 You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 139 So it's just like there, but there was some videos that really got into this.

Speaker 6 And it seems like the black and white of it all has to be intentional.

Speaker 38 And there's something with the moon.

Speaker 6 She said good night to the moon at the end.

Speaker 63 Dance into the shadow of the moon.

Speaker 146 Chromatica ball.

Speaker 6 And then the LG7 popped up.

Speaker 148 I just think there's something going on.

Speaker 88 And she's also made comments recently, like, I'm going to hell.

Speaker 131 Like, I'll see you in hell.

Speaker 107 Like, she's been a little on one with the heaven and hell imagery and the black and white imagery. And people are connecting all of this.

Speaker 94 Why has that been missing in the culture?

Speaker 16 Heaven and hell.

Speaker 78 It needs to make a comeback.

Speaker 86 Hold on.

Speaker 78 So in that snippet,

Speaker 78 I think they intentionally took out that third word or dancing in the shadow of the blank

Speaker 112 Hold on hold on

Speaker 93 Sorry

Speaker 54 Shadow of the

Speaker 45 I think that there's something with the moon the that's the moon.

Speaker 119 Oh my god.

Speaker 84 Why do I have chills?

Speaker 62 And I

Speaker 146 also think that we must be returning to like born this way harder, maybe like,

Speaker 38 you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 109 I just think we might be going back to like, because Chromatica was still like fun, and I think we might go back to like hard and dark.

Speaker 6 That seems to me like post-Joker, the mentality that it's giving.

Speaker 62 We can't forget what she gave at the Oscars when she had just come from filming The Joker, like the state that she was in when she sang Hold My Hand from Top Gun.

Speaker 107 Like, I don't know if she was recording or writing then.

Speaker 62 I would imagine like she was using some of what she was feeling to put into her work.

Speaker 4 But, like, I don't know.

Speaker 7 I think that we can definitely, I think we're going to get something hard because I also think she's going to want it to feel like it matches the tone of whatever Joker Folier Du is going to give.

Speaker 81 And I think that movie is going to go hard.

Speaker 45 So I think we're in for an extreme gaga.

Speaker 79 Oh, my God.

Speaker 117 Because the producers that they've announced so far: Kisoffelstein, Kisoffelstein, Peggy Gow,

Speaker 86 The Weekend, sure.

Speaker 71 And Rick Rubin, again, not so much.

Speaker 144 The weekend is scary pop.

Speaker 7 So I'm into it for Gaga.

Speaker 82 Rick Rubin, which I don't think she's worked, I don't think she's worked with him since art pop.

Speaker 75 I am so happy about it because Rick Rubin gives a big, dramatic vocal.

Speaker 45 Always.

Speaker 75 Big, dramatic vocal.

Speaker 142 And then Caroline Polchuk.

Speaker 141 So it's like...

Speaker 71 Oh, come on. This is going to be really...

Speaker 61 See, this is how you fucking come back with...

Speaker 85 cool fucking producers and bring relationships from the past, but also move forward.

Speaker 74 This would be how you do that.

Speaker 15 This is our corollary to our Katy Perry polemic looking at the ballot.

Speaker 62 Look, I didn't say it, Bowen Yang said it.

Speaker 52 Anyway, I said all of it last week.

Speaker 78 And then now we're getting back on track.

Speaker 82 Oh, yes, a sicily episode.

Speaker 73 And then we were nearing something earlier.

Speaker 45 We were nearing something earlier.

Speaker 69 We were nearing a conversation.

Speaker 141 I mean, this is a conversation.

Speaker 27 You mean my girl?

Speaker 62 Let's talk about it.

Speaker 196 Cute girl with a sick mime.

Speaker 6 I said a couple weeks ago, I wasn't even considering this new Camilla era as culture. I was like, I don't like what whatever this looks like.

Speaker 61 It looked like too much of a Charlie XTX ripoff to me.

Speaker 6 It looked too like, oh, that girl might be going through like a quarter life in a way that's like, I just didn't take seriously because I didn't think that anything good was going to come of it.

Speaker 24 If she's going through a quarter life, she fucking delivered to me on like at least putting a whole bunch of that in the album.

Speaker 51 It feels like extreme and fun and like she's just like really connected to whatever culture it is that brought out like this fun little pops of energy like i like the fucking album and i was not checking for it yes and i'm a camila fan too like i like her some of her old albums i don't think she's been a fave of mine but like i'm judged this on face value and maybe that's my fault maybe it's their fault in marketing but like the album is great i like it a lot a lot

Speaker 100 Nothing

Speaker 78 too alarming about the thing that people are saying, which which is like, oh, it's messy.

Speaker 121 It's like a little too all over the place. It's like a little too all over the map.

Speaker 82 But you're like, see, at what point is it all over the map?

Speaker 78 And at what point is it like meant to be like

Speaker 82 the other side of that coin? It's like, oh, this person's so versatile.

Speaker 52 Or this album is so versatile.

Speaker 116 Or it's just like, this is a real snapshot.

Speaker 61 There's insane things that happen to this album.

Speaker 62 Like, there's one track that's just literally a fan's voicemail to her about how much her one of her other albums meant to him because his dog died.

Speaker 116 Like, that's one whole track in the album.

Speaker 137 Thanks for that. I'm like, this is insane.

Speaker 114 It's such a weird choice, but it's little things like that that I think sometimes help make an album memorable.

Speaker 61 Like there's little pieces in here, little transitions where like there's one called 305 Till I Die, which is just her and a bunch of girls getting ready to go somewhere.

Speaker 62 I was joking with Corey Camp Patrol who's coming on our vacation.

Speaker 75 He was like, that's literally just us on the way to Aristor.

Speaker 33 Like 305 Till I Die.

Speaker 114 There's little bizarre things in here, which are like, make me feel like, oh, you know what I like about this? She wasn't too precious about it.

Speaker 107 It seems like she she actually kind of like threw up her hands with this one and was like i don't know i'm going through it i'm gonna like make an album about things i love like miami and partying and like being a little bit of like an obsessive romantic person and put it in there and i'm gonna be blonde and i just i don't know i get it and

Speaker 119 i was hard on her but i love it you are such you are very developed in that thinking That's very, very, very nice.

Speaker 32 You feel? Yes, this way.

Speaker 69 Jared and I were remarking on how the visuals are very good, and the creative team is doing excellent, excellent, excellent work, along with which includes her, obviously.

Speaker 38 Well, that's why he's really why he's here.

Speaker 149 Jared, Jared is a role as our Miami correspondent as we talk about Camilla Cabello.

Speaker 100 So, like, words that were popping out to me were like Biscayne, Collins Avenue, can you sort of like 305, translate some of the Miami stuff in here?

Speaker 62 And how do you think Camilla did as a Miami girl?

Speaker 125 So, as a fellow Miami girl, as a 305 sister, as a Biscayne hottie, okay,

Speaker 149 as someone who also loves samples on songs called Boats, I really do feel as though Camila is always undervalued.

Speaker 125 She's always underrated. Yes, there is a slight hyper poppability to her in this moment in time.

Speaker 125 But I think that the album is just, you know, the sounds of the ocean, the sounds of a... caffeicito in a warm summer breeze.

Speaker 125 And what I will, just to back up Bowen's thought about the visual aesthetic, like the girl knows how to pick a director.

Speaker 32 Yeah.

Speaker 32 Yeah.

Speaker 125 They're all super interesting.

Speaker 58 She's never boring.

Speaker 119 Her choices are weird.

Speaker 125 She's a cat in a tree in one video that's trying to be cut down.

Speaker 112 I love that one.

Speaker 121 It made me absolutely giggle.

Speaker 125 And do I know what Playboy Cardi is saying on the verse? Couldn't tell you if my life depended on it. But baby, that's Miami.

Speaker 125 We don't know who's speaking or what they're saying, but we do know one thing.

Speaker 149 They came to Slay.

Speaker 51 They came to Slay.

Speaker 91 Your favorite track is, I think he knows.

Speaker 55 I think he knows.

Speaker 149 I love it.

Speaker 125 And I love the music video. And I love that Nas and Camila fight over the same guy, which we don't see enough in the culture.

Speaker 129 It says there shouldn't be labels.

Speaker 125 It's saying queerness is the future. Get on board or get out of my house.

Speaker 99 Get out and into my car.

Speaker 92 GTF.

Speaker 62 Oh my God, the best song ever.

Speaker 74 I'm so excited to do it next year for the culture awards.

Speaker 125 And then there's a moment at the end of the NAS video where like Camila and Nas do a little bit of a bit.

Speaker 45 And Camila lands it.

Speaker 71 No, Camila really nails the acting moment.

Speaker 41 She does.

Speaker 74 I mean, there's nothing more I need than a sketch at the top of a pop music video.

Speaker 6 And I'm just going to say this.

Speaker 49 You can tell a lot from the quality of those sketches.

Speaker 86 1000%.

Speaker 6 And when someone comes in and is Kristen Wigging it, like Camila Cabello, who is just as funny as Kristen Wigg.

Speaker 7 That is what everyone here was saying off mic.

Speaker 51 She's the people Cinderella.

Speaker 52 The people Cinderella.

Speaker 7 Like when push comes to shove, this girl is the comedy future.

Speaker 62 Of course, she's a Dina Menzel's stepdaughter.

Speaker 7 She's a Dina Menzel's stepdaughter.

Speaker 62 You don't get funnier than that.

Speaker 18 I am

Speaker 83 blown away by

Speaker 95 this idea that would you say that she's a cute girl with a sick mind?

Speaker 95 Talk about your love for Chanel number five.

Speaker 34 I love Chanel number five.

Speaker 21 Talk about why, because we're not getting it.

Speaker 95 Oh my God, I love, well, I don't know.

Speaker 96 It's like, cute girl with a sick mind.

Speaker 115 It doesn't take much more than that for me.

Speaker 60 But I will say this about cute girl with a sick mind.

Speaker 109 Like, if that's true, then the rest of the album, I kind of want to hear about her sick dark thoughts.

Speaker 15 Well, I think it's all there.

Speaker 78 I think it's like

Speaker 15 her sick dark thoughts are, I'm going to put a fan voicemail on my fucking album.

Speaker 152 I honestly, I think that that's so insane.

Speaker 56 Sick-minded.

Speaker 59 It's sick-minded.

Speaker 126 It's dark-sided, but I love it.

Speaker 6 And I think it like gives it something.

Speaker 45 I think she said, put that on there.

Speaker 32 This is what we're talking about.

Speaker 78 Like, pop right now needs like serrated edges.

Speaker 168 Serrated edges. I was thinking about that.

Speaker 162 Like, there is something serrated edge about this.

Speaker 6 And I realized after we had that conversation, how important that is, what you said.

Speaker 100 The serrated. Serration is.

Speaker 98 Because guess what?

Speaker 93 We're still split years later about whether or not Solar Power was a good album.

Speaker 87 And maybe it was.

Speaker 21 I think it was.

Speaker 82 It just didn't have the serrated edge.

Speaker 35 I've been listening to a lot of Lord over the past few days just because she is so back

Speaker 51 as we all found out last week um

Speaker 45 but

Speaker 45 nothing compares to

Speaker 65 um melodrama melodrama i mean nothing compares i was gonna say i was gonna say super drama super drama super cut on stones i actually think it might be antonoff's best melodrama is big statement when you combine

Speaker 62 what an incredible lyricist she is with his production, forget about like like how singular her vocal is and how it feels like she is truly the only one like her in the entire universe.

Speaker 62 But like, they really were a matchmate and have on.

Speaker 18 I would say it's 100%.

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 59 Yeah.

Speaker 88 In competition with one.

Speaker 51 With Norman fucking Rockwell.

Speaker 70 Yeah.

Speaker 79 I would do.

Speaker 116 Lazy 89.

Speaker 125 No, because that's not the things that we love. A lot of the things that we love from 1989 are not max.
Like it's not a jack majority album where I could like make that distinction.

Speaker 125 I would have to say,

Speaker 9 I would have to say folklore or lover, but as

Speaker 125 body of works, it's 50-50. The thing about Jack and Melodrama is it was the two of them.
It was Ella and Jack like in a room making this cohesive like one in a billion album.

Speaker 125 I just don't know that him and Taylor have that, have had that cohesive experience on one album.

Speaker 62 I will say I am a I am a midnight stan over time.

Speaker 6 Complete midnight stan like and I think that people need to listen to maroon again that's all I'll say about that

Speaker 86 I mean that's that's right there for you too hold on the implications of Matt saying that we are singing these songs at culture awards are unfathomable and I actually I don't think I can do it Bowen that's not your decision to make it is God's decision and he has spoken through me.

Speaker 41 I'm there.

Speaker 92 I am a vessel.

Speaker 7 I'm sure this is complete

Speaker 7 divinity. It is your destiny.

Speaker 78 But I can't do it.

Speaker 60 Your destiny.

Speaker 86 You can't do it in that context. Yes, you can.

Speaker 38 We're going to set the intention

Speaker 45 and we're going to...

Speaker 38 speak on it later.

Speaker 107 But now what has happened?

Speaker 54 No,

Speaker 55 this is what was supposed to happen.

Speaker 99 We're supposed to go. I'm going to be stoned, you guys.

Speaker 45 No, I'm clear.

Speaker 49 I'm very clear.

Speaker 16 I've actually never been so clear.

Speaker 6 You are going to eat.

Speaker 51 Oh my god.

Speaker 16 Oh, and let me ask you a question.

Speaker 140 What's five plus three?

Speaker 72 How many letters in stallion?

Speaker 45 How many letters in devoured?

Speaker 83 I can't count.

Speaker 33 How many slices of a pizza, usually?

Speaker 16 How many

Speaker 137 fucked up shit?

Speaker 80 What?

Speaker 116 How many John and Kate Plus?

Speaker 52 Hey, boo.

Speaker 105 Hey, boo. Spiders have how many?

Speaker 59 Oh!

Speaker 51 Ligs, that is.

Speaker 16 Ligs.

Speaker 133 Hey, my favorite Adam Standler movie?

Speaker 41 Blank Crazy Nights.

Speaker 65 You could have just said how many nights in Honic.

Speaker 53 That's not what I said.

Speaker 16 Sad.

Speaker 6 Oh, wait. We didn't, you know what we didn't talk about?

Speaker 63 In June Gloom by Camilla Cabelloff, Album C-X-O-X-O?

Speaker 126 Girl. And she goes, did she get this away for you, baby?

Speaker 4 You haven't heard it yet, have you?

Speaker 194 You haven't listened to the whole album.

Speaker 98 I'm scared.

Speaker 72 I'm scared to listen to a song called June Gloom when we were just recently

Speaker 72 in that month.

Speaker 148 Well, thank God we've left it because finally it's Pride Month.

Speaker 45 It's July.

Speaker 62 And we are so excited, as always, to represent the community.

Speaker 109 We love you all.

Speaker 149 And this is the podcast where every gay person can feel represented.

Speaker 120 Legibetique is here to stay.

Speaker 9 Is here to stay.

Speaker 110 How do you feel about how the word has caught on?

Speaker 62 It has.

Speaker 15 I feel really touched by the way the community has really gotten together.

Speaker 16 The community gets so weird for us, baby.

Speaker 71 I thought collectivism was over.

Speaker 80 No, it's just beginning.

Speaker 9 It's just beginning.

Speaker 41 It's just beginning.

Speaker 83 Just Just beginning.

Speaker 33 Collectivism is just beginning.

Speaker 49 Oh, my God.

Speaker 63 Why are you thinking about the...

Speaker 78 No, I'm thinking about a story.

Speaker 72 The story that Jimmy Fowley shared on this podcast that he then shared at a pitch meeting on Monday, which

Speaker 78 was unforgettable.

Speaker 136 The way Jimmy Fowley slays

Speaker 71 SNL, but like in the room.

Speaker 78 Every you've never seen a room more obsessed with a gay man.

Speaker 78 He is the gay king of SNL.

Speaker 71 It was always him.

Speaker 83 Always.

Speaker 65 Jimmy fucking fouley.

Speaker 71 But remember that story he showed on the podcast where he like he found out his ex was cheating on him or something?

Speaker 57 And he, and so then he threw, um,

Speaker 69 I forgot what he threw, something at the car.

Speaker 38 No, it was a full baseball bat.

Speaker 71 It was a full baseball bat or like a water bottle or something.

Speaker 38 He literally busts the windows in your car.

Speaker 62 Like he literally

Speaker 63 he like did that song to his ex.

Speaker 61 And then the ex said, what the fuck? And

Speaker 71 then Jimmy swerves, like flips to you, and in the most cinematic way goes, says to him, this is just the beginning.

Speaker 55 This is just the beginning.

Speaker 151 Can you believe that his episode of Lost Cult is not called This Is Just the Beginning?

Speaker 97 What were we doing?

Speaker 52 It's called Freak Sick.

Speaker 77 Freak Sick.

Speaker 16 I would curious to go listen to that one again because that was when you guys barely knew each other.

Speaker 71 We did not know each other.

Speaker 6 But I have been a Jimmy Fally super stand.

Speaker 64 She was a fan.

Speaker 147 Since the beginning.

Speaker 111 Did he do the secret life of Go-Go Dancers?

Speaker 69 What was that, YouTube? Yes, yes. That was fun.

Speaker 77 It was Gogo Boy Interrupted.

Speaker 71 Go-Goy Interrupted.

Speaker 94 He's so fucking funny.

Speaker 112 Jimmy's great.

Speaker 62 Jimmy is a natural lightning rod

Speaker 16 comedy star.

Speaker 51 100%. I love him.

Speaker 82 It is just the beginning, but that's what brought me to the beginning.

Speaker 129 I think collectivism is just beginning.

Speaker 69 Collectivism is just beginning.

Speaker 9 You have such a good memory.

Speaker 76 Do you think that we're so

Speaker 62 we numb ourselves out so much?

Speaker 49 Because we can feel how dark everything is all around us.

Speaker 91 Is that why you think we numb ourselves?

Speaker 49 Like, let's let's really get real.

Speaker 77 Yeah.

Speaker 63 Why do you, each and every day, choose to numb the pain?

Speaker 16 Drugs. Alcohol.

Speaker 33 Why do you think?

Speaker 34 Why do you think you can't face how dark the world is?

Speaker 24 Is it because if you start, you won't stop asking questions?

Speaker 20 Oh, honey.

Speaker 9 Hmm. Despair.

Speaker 71 That's what we all want to avoid.

Speaker 93 You will fall into it.

Speaker 128 You will fall into despair.

Speaker 69 You will fall into despair.

Speaker 55 As Jared Jared reaches for the weed again.

Speaker 29 You ever just stop in the middle of a crazy day and realize, wow, I needed a break.

Speaker 132 It literally happened to me yesterday.

Speaker 154 I cracked open a Diet Coke, sat back for five minutes.

Speaker 155 Total reset. Right?

Speaker 8 There's something about the crispy, refreshing taste of an ice-cold Diet Coke.

Speaker 68 It just hits.

Speaker 156 It's my little me moment, like make time for a Diet Coke break, you know?

Speaker 158 Exactly.

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Speaker 130 It's All's Fair, as in All's Fair in Love and War, and she's a divorce attorney.

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Speaker 7 What was it like watching? Did you watch?

Speaker 62 You didn't, no, you didn't watch the debates you were working on.

Speaker 41 Like being in Vancouver, I have not seen the sounds.

Speaker 105 What was the vibes?

Speaker 21 Vibes were

Speaker 58 like we were on set, and then like, I have not seen a single sound from that debate.

Speaker 9 And that's how fucking scared I am.

Speaker 85 Yeah, no, be afraid, be very afraid.

Speaker 59 And I don't know.

Speaker 78 I don't want to hear either of them talk, but especially not Joe.

Speaker 131 Uh, yeah, because it's not a problem.

Speaker 78 Because the descriptions that were coming out, just verbally, like that I was just reading, I was just like, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 82 And I say this as a dual citizen comedian.

Speaker 91 Honestly, I was thinking of you.

Speaker 7 And I was like, my girl has someplace to go.

Speaker 87 I'm lucky.

Speaker 61 And now, isn't that fucked up though?

Speaker 49 Like, that's where we're at.

Speaker 51 Or we're like, oh, it literally isn't.

Speaker 69 Wait, we actually can't talk about this.

Speaker 7 I mean, the thing is, like, I guess we can't talk about it because we don't want to make vibes bad.

Speaker 109 But, like, isn't that fucked up, though?

Speaker 127 We can't even talk about it because it is a vibes destroyer.

Speaker 88 And low-key, it should, it should be, I guess, guess because i i was like

Speaker 7 so i think one of the reasons i was like on a tear this morning is because like that shit happened with the supreme court where like i don't know xyz here probably something different by the time this comes out but like whatever today it got even worse yeah yeah and i was just like god damn it like when is someone just gonna come in and just fucking like save us or like no one no one no one's gonna do it like but i'm just like we and then i was like thinking about how high i was and everything and i was just like god i guess i gotta stop and at some point just be like, this thing that we have been fearing coming, this election that we have been fearing coming is going to come.

Speaker 6 And I think the debates made that very clear for me the other night where I was like, wow, he really is the person that we are choosing to go up against someone who is a full-blown dictator.

Speaker 38 This is the guy.

Speaker 91 This is the guy that's going to do it.

Speaker 159 And I'm like, I don't know.

Speaker 7 I don't know if the best thing for everyone under him is to be like, support him, support him, support him.

Speaker 6 Someone might have to step up and be like, no, I am the strong powerful voice of this party and i am not going to allow decorum to to like send us into a tailspin because we need someone to step up and be like we are strong you don't have to be afraid we are going to preserve democracy

Speaker 125 speak freely i feel like there is no like we all long for someone not to throw the wicked reference but we all long for someone to be behind the curtain in the emerald city of the democratic party who's here pulling strings or ready to save save us.

Speaker 125 I do not think that person exists.

Speaker 97 Oh my gosh.

Speaker 125 I do not think there's anyone behind the curtain. I don't know that there's anyone driving the car at this point.
I think the closest person we have is Obama.

Speaker 125 Like we, I think collectively, the people who I know who are the most intelligent and well-read on just the political process and whether or not he could be replaced.

Speaker 125 lost all hope that that could be a plan when Obama tweeted the next day.

Speaker 78 The Obama tweet fucking sunk my soul.

Speaker 125 I think that he's the closest that we have to someone who's powering the Democratic Party and is the quote-unquote pulling the strings behind the curtain.

Speaker 125 But beyond that, like, I don't know that that person is there.

Speaker 86 There's no like string pulling here because it's so personal to this one man's condition.

Speaker 71 And it's like,

Speaker 35 it's so that's what's fucked up about it.

Speaker 78 There's no like lobbying into like getting him to drop out.

Speaker 72 You know what I mean?

Speaker 71 There's there's no like money you can throw at that problem.

Speaker 73 It's like this is an this is an old man who like

Speaker 78 is too stubborn to make that decision.

Speaker 64 I just think it's, it's gotten to a point where it's like, why are we lying to ourselves?

Speaker 7 Like, why, why would we pretend that this is the person that's going to make us look the strongest?

Speaker 45 We need to look strong.

Speaker 7 And he, he literally is in fact quite depressing.

Speaker 120 Like, that's the thing is like, you do need to be able to center a campaign around a person.

Speaker 75 That is the way this works.

Speaker 38 And if the whole thing is like, well, low-key, we can't do that, but it's about bigger than him.

Speaker 194 It's like, but why does it have to be that?

Speaker 62 We can't just put someone in there if it's about more than him.

Speaker 45 That's more inspiring.

Speaker 38 I get that there's like rules and I understand that people disagree, but it's just like hard to look at it the way that it is and be like, yeah, you know what?

Speaker 7 What we have to do is support the current situation harder.

Speaker 52 What?

Speaker 159 That doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 125 In 2024, do you smoke a joint and go from Camila Cabella to CXXO?

Speaker 148 But this is Lost Cult.

Speaker 71 This is Lost Cult.

Speaker 148 And that's on Lost Culturistas.

Speaker 149 That is, maybe that's on Lost Culturistas.

Speaker 7 And I think it speaks to just the way that CXOXO speaks to her life right now.

Speaker 123 This episode speaks to her life.

Speaker 74 That's why this is called M-R-B-Y-X-O-X-O.

Speaker 71 I thought it was called... Okay, but yeah.

Speaker 32 What's it called?

Speaker 100 I thought it was called something else.

Speaker 129 Did we name this episode?

Speaker 123 I think you already did.

Speaker 126 What was it?

Speaker 41 It was a lot going on at the moment.

Speaker 71 No, it's M-R-B-Y-X-O-X-O.

Speaker 133 Cute girls with thick minds.

Speaker 33 Or should it be cute girls with sick minds?

Speaker 57 Cute girls with thick minds.

Speaker 9 Period.

Speaker 125 Talking about something that could actually save democracy, the man behind the curtain.

Speaker 125 They're painting the brat wall again today.

Speaker 64 Yeah, they are.

Speaker 30 That is huge.

Speaker 146 They're painting the brat wall again.

Speaker 78 The best political news we've gotten in.

Speaker 66 Can't trust red, can't trust blue, you can trust green.

Speaker 34 That's really culture number 58.

Speaker 16 You can't trust red, you can't trust blue you can't trust green

Speaker 15 on the brat wall should we talk about this sympathy is a knife featuring taylor oh my god and y'all y'all are sick it would never happen it's never gonna happen

Speaker 77 me and mad at the same time never

Speaker 90 gonna happen a lot going on at the moment but not that

Speaker 121 oh god what could be next what could she literally do remember when she was on our podcast and said

Speaker 71 We joked Miriam Cosby is going to be on a track with you. She said, yeah, full remix album is going to be her.

Speaker 78 She like implied the release of a remix album.

Speaker 146 Charlie has a counterpoint in the world, and it is Maryam Cosby on the Salt Lightcast.

Speaker 91 Like, Maryam Cosby is the Charlie XCX of Real Housewives.

Speaker 83 Absolutely. Yeah.

Speaker 125 I do think that there's going to be a remix album because I feel like Caroline Policek and recently Marina from Marine and the Diamonds have been so brat-tastic on social media

Speaker 125 in ways where I'm like, you jumping on a song. Caroline going to jump on Apple if it's the last thing she does.

Speaker 93 Oh, of course.

Speaker 16 I need it.

Speaker 100 It's so

Speaker 100 aged.

Speaker 136 G, it's so good.

Speaker 125 Well, you know what?

Speaker 77 We're gonna do when he made it, jump, jump, period.

Speaker 63 What is your single favorite line from Brat

Speaker 125 to the airport?

Speaker 15 That's good.

Speaker 93 Which we're gonna literally be singing when we get to the car.

Speaker 125 I'm gonna be insufferable later.

Speaker 72 My single favorite line, it's really hard to choose for now.

Speaker 73 Right now,

Speaker 72 it's gonna be

Speaker 93 till the windows crack.

Speaker 83 I'll be bumping that.

Speaker 52 Till the windows crack.

Speaker 64 Can you imagine bumping that so hard that the windows shatter?

Speaker 136 I fucking love it.

Speaker 79 I hope to God we all get to experience that before the civil war.

Speaker 97 I'm so happy this month is Pride Month.

Speaker 52 Me too. July.

Speaker 62 Because we are going to, we have so many parties to look forward to where people are going to be bumping that till the windows crack.

Speaker 71 And I.

Speaker 136 What's your can I return the question to you?

Speaker 110 This is a huge question.

Speaker 129 I'm going to say

Speaker 62 my favorite line from Brat.

Speaker 62 Always on my mind.

Speaker 62 Yeah.

Speaker 96 You had a power like a lightning strike.

Speaker 140 I do love you had a power like a lightning strike.

Speaker 63 I think that's really beautiful.

Speaker 117 I think that I listened to that song a lot more than I...

Speaker 81 So I?

Speaker 77 Yeah, than I thought I would.

Speaker 7 I mean, it's so sad, but it's so beautiful and it's so like personal.

Speaker 62 I was said to Ted, who reps Charlie and reps Kelly from Atlantic Records the other day, I saw him at Pride and I was like, I wish that I had gotten to listen to that album like four or five more times before she came in because I don't think it hit me till like

Speaker 35 a couple days after we recorded with her. Like, and then the album came out like just how much I loved it.

Speaker 144 You should have her back on.

Speaker 136 Again, like Charlie Part 2 after, because she didn't expect Brat to take, no one expect.

Speaker 77 You don't think? No one.

Speaker 119 No one.

Speaker 125 She was, she had the number three album in the country. She's never had that before.
Like, she's charting more songs than she has in the last decade.

Speaker 125 Like, I know that she, obviously, she believed in the music and she's like so smart, not only like sonically, but also like her marketing team.

Speaker 105 Taste.

Speaker 105 This rollout is flawless.

Speaker 125 But I still feel like she could not have imagined. what a moment this would be.

Speaker 82 I feel like that was the vision.

Speaker 125 I think it was the vision, but like she's just, she had such vision with Crash. She had such vision with Pop 2.

Speaker 125 too like she's oh it's never the music that is not it's the culture caught up to her the culture caught up to her she was always ahead and she there's even a line on there like it is hard to be ahead and she's always ahead and her taste is always so futuristic but of the moment and i feel like

Speaker 125 like commercially the audience finally responded to her the way that they always should have and after i feel like she's had so many some would say disappointments like commercially like what this might feel like and how validating it must feel i hope that she's like i would be so curious from this vantage point what it feels like for her because this reception is like it's i feel like it has a bigger cultural footprint than some albums that were quotably bigger in sales or streaming or charge numbers like the cultural footprint of brat is gig is like like through the straps this is what you need for something iconic to hit in this way like an attitude yes it just needs an attitude and brat is it's literally in the title bratitude It's bratitude, but like I think same for like chapel's show it's like 100 point It's not even a point of view like that's even too general of a term It's like there is like a way you are like orienting yourself towards like this thing and like if other people can relate to that then like they're gonna fucking love it.

Speaker 105 Yeah

Speaker 125 like I really feel like chapel specifically and like Charlie are both incredibly vulnerable artists, which we don't see a lot.

Speaker 125 They have a sound that we don't always see honed in the way that they hone it. Like you hear a Charlie song, it's Charlie.
It's no one else. Everything else is imitation.
Same thing with Chapel.

Speaker 125 It's just like two singular, authentic, truthful voices who are taking structures of songs, types of songs that we love and putting their own spin on them in a way where it's just like unforgettable and of the moment.

Speaker 125 And it's just like, those are not the two. When you named all the pop stars that are releasing albums this year, like those weren't the two I thought would would take over.

Speaker 146 No way.

Speaker 105 Isn't Isn't it wild how that all shook out?

Speaker 85 Now I'm thinking about like the even pop vocal album this year.

Speaker 33 Like half of these girls are getting snubbed.

Speaker 72 If she, if Charlie doesn't get nominated, I think that will be.

Speaker 114 Well, this is what I was saying.

Speaker 95 I was like, she could put it in dance electronic album, but my thing is, in a world where we're actually judging things for what they are, I believe that Brat is a pop vocal album.

Speaker 38 Because she is the point of view.

Speaker 139 She is the artist. She is the star.

Speaker 159 You don't listen to that album for the music any more than you listen to Hit Me Hard and Soft from Billie Eilish for that production and that music.

Speaker 4 You could really compare the two in that regard.

Speaker 120 And in that way, you definitely wouldn't put Billie Eilish in Dance Electronic.

Speaker 6 You would put her where she belongs in pop vocal, and I believe that's where Brat belongs.

Speaker 62 That being said, Renaissance won Dance Electronic album two years ago.

Speaker 74 And I would absolutely agree with people who said that that is a moment where Beyoncé is also the artist.

Speaker 6 It's not necessarily the music you listen for.

Speaker 110 I think it's a weird case.

Speaker 74 Probably pop vocal album then as well for that album, but it has won that category.

Speaker 62 So there is precedent for Charlie to submit it there.

Speaker 7 I just think she is so clearly the pop artist.

Speaker 57 You know what I mean? Sure.

Speaker 98 Although, is it maybe a thing within the academy where it's like, a pop vocal album has to be like defined in this way where like the vocal isn't like too processed or whatever the fuck.

Speaker 63 Maybe

Speaker 125 in certain cases, like they could submit that artist can submit an album for a category and then like there are people on the Grammy committee who will listen to it and they'll be like, actually, it's not this category, it's this other category.

Speaker 77 And then they move it. Yeah.

Speaker 125 So ultimately, I don't feel like it's up to them. But I don't know.
You've talked about defining dance electronic from the POV of the music over the artist where the artist's in the front.

Speaker 125 And for me, it is more like a sound. But either, like, yeah, what it sounds like sonically.
And I think Charlie straddles the line.

Speaker 125 I do think 360 should win the Padam Padam Rush Grammy, the new one, the pop dance recording.

Speaker 38 Oh, definitely. Yeah.

Speaker 16 Definitely.

Speaker 83 360 has that in the back.

Speaker 7 I mean, I think she should do whatever it is that's going to win her Grammys. Like, don't get me wrong.

Speaker 62 Like, if Brad's going to stomp in there and it could be a multiple Grammy winner for being in dance electronic fields, she should do that.

Speaker 16 But I just think, but I think what we're all saying is we, we hope that she,

Speaker 71 we hope that this is all put into like the above the line quote unquote award.

Speaker 20 Oh, God.

Speaker 38 I think it's, I think it should be an album of the year nominee for 100%.

Speaker 55 Also, speaking to the marketing, you could teach like a college course in marketing about, like, you know, like, I wonder if at like Clive Davis and stuff, they're talking about which is like the recording.

Speaker 38 So basically, there's like a school at NYU,

Speaker 110 which is called the Clive Davis, you know, recording Academy or whatever the fuck.

Speaker 85 And you learn how to become like a real music industry participant, whether it's as an artist, as a producer, as a writer, it's something.

Speaker 7 And I would imagine that this is something that people are looking at.

Speaker 122 Like, this is how an artist simultaneously had all their integrity and authenticity and all of their brand already that's, that's there encompassed in something new that was able to be marketed to everyone else and also backed it up with music that track by track,

Speaker 49 like the mission statement of that album, the word brat was in every single thing.

Speaker 140 And then when you think about the things that have come in the weeks since the album's release, like the Lord version, like the meme ability of the way she announces things, it's like, there's layers to it.

Speaker 72 There's so much going on.

Speaker 59 And even hearing her talk about how, like, no, like there were hours and hours of discussion about the green color.

Speaker 136 Like

Speaker 77 every single detail in this is from her, has been, it has been mulled over so, so much in a way that you're like, you must respect this.

Speaker 149 Come on.

Speaker 125 There was a gay guy at Pride who says that his mom and his like straight best friends, anytime they say lime green out in the wild, if it's like a literal lime or just the color of a poster they like take a photo and send it to him and be like brat brat but also credit where credit's due i think we have to shout out charlie's manager brandon who also does

Speaker 125 ariana and terry who's her photographer and has like done a lot of like design 100 terry is also benny drama's boyfriend we love the sweetest in the world and they slay the marketing role out of this and i mean gag like we're honored that we were a small part of it it's so cool By the way.

Speaker 125 Have you talked about Paige DeSorbo doing your audio?

Speaker 123 I will get to that in a second, but I want to say you have Kilterista in your blood.

Speaker 60 You need to.

Speaker 16 You just really served Kilterista

Speaker 64 in a way that was very...

Speaker 94 You really served. Jared is third host.

Speaker 105 I am gay.

Speaker 72 So my life has prepared me for this, but it's because you guys create such a warm atmosphere.

Speaker 83 Oh, whatever.

Speaker 6 But wait, what?

Speaker 105 Paige DeSorbo?

Speaker 137 Paige DeSorbo did our... Well, we hadn't even said on the podcast.

Speaker 16 We had a viral sound.

Speaker 129 Charlie episode gave us a viral sound.

Speaker 144 It's a huge honor.

Speaker 29 And like, literally, the

Speaker 45 like Kennedys of our time, Craig Conover and Paige DeSorbo, did the sound.

Speaker 129 And I said, thank you.

Speaker 63 Now I know what true class and elegance looks like with our silly little words coming out of your mouth.

Speaker 195 I love that couple.

Speaker 83 Might have to watch Summerhouse.

Speaker 7 Honestly, everyone says that it's the next frontier.

Speaker 62 Jared Frieder, Frieder, like, it's his comfort food television.

Speaker 71 Well, can I say, I just finished The Valley and I was, and like, I was promised very big things, and I didn't, I do not think it lived up to those things.

Speaker 3 The valley's a little too dark for me.

Speaker 125 If I wanted to see straight people getting divorced, I just look around the real world.

Speaker 71 I want escape from Bravo. I want escape.

Speaker 125 And escape is brought to you in the form of Summerhouse.

Speaker 125 Paige DeSorbo, the funniest person on Bravo, the voice of reason in the way that Bethany always wanted to be, but never was because she's, you know, Bethany.

Speaker 125 And this, it was the scandal of all season where basically Lindsay and Carl, who'd been on the show from the beginning and were best friends, decided to get engaged too fast.

Speaker 125 And then their engagement imploded on the cameras in front of the whole world to see.

Speaker 125 And for some reason, it didn't feel as dark as the valley because there's the escapism of like the other characters.

Speaker 9 Whereas the valley was like kids involved and shit.

Speaker 83 It's like so sad.

Speaker 62 When there's people arguing and kids nearby, I'm always like, Devo.

Speaker 63 I'm always, I always want to just scream, scream out like this guy.

Speaker 66 girl, what a sick mind.

Speaker 32 And just distract from everything, you know?

Speaker 140 I wish when I was a little, little boy, had my parents to bitterly fight. I could just at three years old have been like, cue girl, what a sick mind.

Speaker 18 Oh my God, you sound amazing, really incredible.

Speaker 80 You think so?

Speaker 80 You're a great voice today.

Speaker 81 Well, maybe we should use our voices to speak out about something called, I don't think so, honey.

Speaker 71 Wait, I quickly want to say what oh no maybe this is no I've got two I don't think so many so I'm gonna get one thing out of the way go

Speaker 63 which is so this is something you just want to speak on and I can't really bring this up earlier we were talking about Gaga go the rumor is

Speaker 79 Diddy's lawyers finally fired him do you know why why because allegedly gaga who they also represent called them and was like I'm firing you guys if you don't fucking drop Diddy this second.

Speaker 83 How dare you?

Speaker 71 And they're like, okay, okay. But like, God, I don't think so many of those fucking lawyers.

Speaker 73 I'm sure they're great, but if you, if it, like, you have no moral conscience, like, to, oh, and oh my God, this, like, Austin Wolf shit.

Speaker 32 Things are dark right now. No, the tops are falling left and right.

Speaker 114 Literally.

Speaker 82 Is Diddy a top?

Speaker 139 No, I'm just saying, like, he's not the, let's just say Austin Wolf was not the only top.

Speaker 71 Oh, are there other ones too that are like falling apart?

Speaker 55 Michael Lucas. Like, oh,

Speaker 86 he's been far gone forever.

Speaker 15 Oh, God.

Speaker 82 Michael Lucas has been fucking disgusting.

Speaker 77 It doesn't matter where you stand on things.

Speaker 141 He's just been disgusting.

Speaker 32 Yeah. And not good.

Speaker 146 But anyway, like, like literally.

Speaker 98 Signing Israeli missiles with like signing Israeli missiles.

Speaker 112 I love Michael Lucas. That's right.

Speaker 32 Like, it's fucked up.

Speaker 64 Pretty fucked up.

Speaker 142 Fuck, fuck, fuck you. Yeah.

Speaker 39 And anyway, so, but like, yeah, there's some.

Speaker 62 All these, all these men are going down.

Speaker 100 And

Speaker 9 oh, whatever.

Speaker 121 There are great, wonderful tops out there that aren't like this.

Speaker 71 Okay.

Speaker 149 And that's a rule of culture.

Speaker 16 There are great. Remember what?

Speaker 41 I think 59.

Speaker 113 59.

Speaker 16 There are great, wonderful tops out there who are not them.

Speaker 56 Who are not them.

Speaker 16 Who aren't doing all this stuff.

Speaker 9 For those of you, just Google it.

Speaker 51 Just Google it.

Speaker 16 Like the Dawson Wolf thing is awesome.

Speaker 45 Oh, it's going down, you guys.

Speaker 128 Like,

Speaker 178 it's going down.

Speaker 29 You ever just stop in the middle of a crazy day and realize, wow, I needed a break.

Speaker 132 It literally happened to me yesterday.

Speaker 154 I cracked open a Diet Coke, sat back for five minutes, total reset.

Speaker 27 Right?

Speaker 8 There's something about the crispy, refreshing taste of an ice-cold Diet Coke.

Speaker 44 It just hits.

Speaker 156 It's my little me moment, like make time for a Diet Coke break, you know?

Speaker 158 Exactly.

Speaker 5 Diet Coke is the perfect companion for all break moments.

Speaker 55 Diet Coke, this is my taste.

Speaker 159 Two questions. What are you doing right now?

Speaker 25 And why aren't you on a Virgin Voyages Caribbean cruise?

Speaker 161 Well, obviously, you were listening to us. Smart use of your time.
True.

Speaker 25 But you could also be on a Virgin Voyages Caribbean cruise at the same time.

Speaker 153 That's just brilliant time management.

Speaker 31 Very true.

Speaker 161 This gives me an idea.

Speaker 163 Let's do a quick cruise quiz. Ready?

Speaker 164 First, cruise dining.

Speaker 155 Do you prefer a buffet or a curated dining experience with access to 20 distinct restaurants?

Speaker 55 Curated dining.

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Speaker 21 That's what Virgin Voyages offers.

Speaker 47 Second question.

Speaker 167 Would you rather have an overstuffed itinerary or the freedom to explore stunning?

Speaker 168 Oh, I want the freedom to explore stunning Caribbean destinations.

Speaker 169 Again, I think I see where this quiz is going.

Speaker 170 Virgin Voyages is amazing.

Speaker 147 Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 11 The cruises are kid-free.

Speaker 46 From sunrise yoga to late-night cocktails, every moment is made for grown-up fun.

Speaker 157 Nothing against kids.

Speaker 27 Kids are awesome, but sometimes it's nice to be kid-free.

Speaker 47 And there's so much included value.

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Speaker 37 Wi-Fi soda, top-tier entertainment, over 20 restaurants, and even group fitness classes.

Speaker 101 No hidden fees, no surprise charges.

Speaker 172 Virgin Voyages gives you the kind of luxury you actually deserve.

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Speaker 19 I deserve luxury.

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Speaker 12 From wellness-focused sailings to epic holiday voyages, live music, DJs, themed parties, and more.

Speaker 161 Boredom doesn't board the ship.

Speaker 176 And there are so many amazing stops.

Speaker 160 You leave from Miami and sail to places like Grand Cayman, Jamaica, Puerto Rico, and the Dominican Republic.

Speaker 177 Virgin even has their own private beach club in Bibini.

Speaker 89 And they're adding stops in 2025 and 2026.

Speaker 14 Yeah, like Aruba, St. Lucia, and Caraçao.

Speaker 56 But it's not all go, go, go.

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Speaker 165 Private terrace, ocean views, and their signature red hammock just waiting for you to swing.

Speaker 160 Oh, and did I mention Virgin Voyages is launching a new ship, the Brilliant Lady?

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Speaker 10 Book now at virginvoyages.com or contact your travel advisor.

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Speaker 179 Okay, so you know how the world is a chaotic, swirling ball of total stress right now?

Speaker 134 Well, we have a new Hulu show from Ryan Murphy that will give you the much-needed break from reality.

Speaker 118 And whether you know it or not, you are already completely obsessed.

Speaker 178 It's called All's Fair, and Ms.

Speaker 26 Kardashian plays Allura Grant, the most in-demand divorce attorney in Los Angeles.

Speaker 181 Get it?

Speaker 130 It's All's Fair, as in All's Fair in Love and War, and she's a divorce attorney.

Speaker 30 Love it.

Speaker 182 Now let's talk ensemble because Allura does not go it alone.

Speaker 36 She breaks off from a crusty male-dominated law firm to start her own legal coven with some absolute forces of nature.

Speaker 187 Naomi Watts, Nisi Nash-Betts, Tayana Taylor, and Glenn Close.

Speaker 108 Yeah, hello, Glenn Close.

Speaker 110 And of course, you need a villain, so say hello to Sarah Paulson as the nemesis.

Speaker 158 And these ladies are brilliant, complicated, fearless, and when they all come together, nothing can stop them.

Speaker 189 I'm talking about the lawyers on the show and the actresses playing them, by the way.

Speaker 158 But hey, if you're thinking this will be all courtroom drama and no drama drama, relax.

Speaker 189 Allura, that's Kim's character, has plenty of twists and turns in her personal life.

Speaker 191 Her professional life crashes into her personal one and uh-oh.

Speaker 130 So how does this super lawyer fix her own mess?

Speaker 91 With a little help from her besties, of course.

Speaker 192 So this series has it all.

Speaker 48 Scandalous secrets, high-stakes courtroom drama, more shifting alliances than Kim's other shows, some OMG twists, and friendships that rise above it all.

Speaker 29 And of course, everything is going to look amazing.

Speaker 60 It's got some unapologetic glam, a work-hard, play-harder lifestyle.

Speaker 184 Every scene just sparkles.

Speaker 188 Everybody makes compromises in their lives.

Speaker 40 Lame men, underpaying jobs. Well, stop.

Speaker 170 Just stop.

Speaker 193 And never settle for anything less than fabulous when it comes to your next streaming obsession.

Speaker 190 All's fair.

Speaker 56 Now streaming on Hulu and on Hulu on Disney Plus for bundle subscribers.

Speaker 53 Terms apply, drama guaranteed.

Speaker 139 Anyway, CXOXO.

Speaker 62 It's time for I don't think so, honey. And I guess I'll go first.

Speaker 83 Okay.

Speaker 62 Wow, this episode has been a wild and rollicking ride.

Speaker 121 It's been a wild and rollicking ride.

Speaker 72 Thank you for joining us on it.

Speaker 15 Raiders, Katie's publicist Michael Lennon.

Speaker 140 I got my thing.

Speaker 71 This is not Rodgers'.

Speaker 58 I don't think so, honey.

Speaker 9 His time starts now.

Speaker 128 I don't think so, honey, the use of the word darling in songs like it's something people say.

Speaker 62 A few months ago, my sister Bowen Yang didn't I don't think so honey about when people say uh goddamn in songs as filler.

Speaker 61 There is nothing more filler than when someone says darling.

Speaker 16 And so

Speaker 111 literally no one ever in life, least of all a cool pop star that is like millennial age or younger, is referring to any significant other or friend or family member as darling.

Speaker 67 So when we have a song and the word is darling, Queen, we know it could have gone through another couple passes.

Speaker 126 And yes, I have been sitting here singing the praises of one CXOXO.

Speaker 6 She's saying darling in the song in a way that I don't believe from Camilla Cabella, who's throwing it back on Dave County Dreaming just a few tracks before.

Speaker 152 Like, I don't know if that girl's being like, hey, darling, let's go out to the club.

Speaker 45 Like, I don't believe it. Darling is filler.

Speaker 105 Five stars.

Speaker 61 Darling is not good. I don't think so, honey, darling.

Speaker 91 I don't believe you, honey, that you say darling.

Speaker 83 And that's what about it.

Speaker 18 Y'all feeling me?

Speaker 136 I feel you so hard.

Speaker 86 Like, guess what?

Speaker 70 Wasn't nominated for the culture award for old-timey thing to say again?

Speaker 81 My darling.

Speaker 52 Darling, darling, dear.

Speaker 71 You only use it ironically.

Speaker 15 You only use it because language is a beautiful palette to choose from.

Speaker 117 She literally is like, um, what does she say?

Speaker 196 She goes, Did she get this wet for you, baby? And then she's like, Something, something, my darling.

Speaker 114 I'm like, no, you don't like, you don't say how wet you are.

Speaker 6 And then my darling in the same sentence, like, like, no one's coming home and seeing you in the bed.

Speaker 63 And it's like, and you're like, I'm so wet, darling.

Speaker 121 That's the sick mind.

Speaker 112 That's the sick mind that you're looking for.

Speaker 33 I guess that was

Speaker 59 the clues were there.

Speaker 9 What are you talking about?

Speaker 76 I was craving. It's like, I'm so wet, darling.

Speaker 55 And I'm still wet, darling.

Speaker 71 And fan voicemail about his dog dying.

Speaker 137 Literally, it's like this girl is not okay.

Speaker 71 And I hope she's getting the help that we support her all the way.

Speaker 90 But it made an album that was serrated.

Speaker 51 Serrated. Serrated.

Speaker 49 And Frida said, underrated.

Speaker 51 Ooh.

Speaker 55 Bone Yang, are you galvanized?

Speaker 6 Are you ready to do what I don't think so, honey?

Speaker 32 I'm ready.

Speaker 62 This is Bon Yang's. I don't think so, honey, as time starts now.

Speaker 82 I don't think so, honey.

Speaker 78 Delta 360 Club.

Speaker 71 How can I get the invite?

Speaker 82 I think all three of us here at this table should get the invite.

Speaker 121 Oh, Matt is already woke up.

Speaker 93 Of course. That's amazing.

Speaker 64 But I looked it up.

Speaker 82 I looked it up.

Speaker 144 I was like, well, how do you qualify for 360?

Speaker 15 Because it's just like a big secret only invite only thing.

Speaker 119 You need to, you get a default invitation if you're five million miler.

Speaker 32 Honey, who's got the time?

Speaker 113 Are there even that many miles?

Speaker 16 30 seconds. That's a great question.

Speaker 105 Travel in a life. Right.

Speaker 136 I don't know about that.

Speaker 87 It's giving very SNL ticket lottery.

Speaker 77 Oh, they'll draw what they'll draw your name in 40 years.

Speaker 3 It's, it's just, why would you ever do that?

Speaker 78 Because even back when I was growing up, quote unquote, I was like, I'm not signing up for the lottery.

Speaker 16 I'm never going to be in it.

Speaker 81 I got in once.

Speaker 7 See, some people aren't as lucky as Matt Rodgers,

Speaker 71 even though I'm certainly blessed.

Speaker 152 But Delta 360.

Speaker 80 Five seconds.

Speaker 71 When I'm in the mirror, I like what I see.

Speaker 100 And I want to see myself in the club.

Speaker 33 That was beautiful.

Speaker 52 I don't think so, honey.

Speaker 61 That's one minute.

Speaker 49 That's one minute, Adam.

Speaker 110 Oh, that was really good.

Speaker 37 Yeah, I'm a 360 member.

Speaker 116 Why did you get the invite?

Speaker 52 Tell me, girl.

Speaker 16 Why were you going to tell me?

Speaker 51 Let's just say that. Girl.

Speaker 138 They got that on one knee.

Speaker 51 They proposed to me.

Speaker 105 So

Speaker 96 I said yes.

Speaker 143 I don't remember. I just literally looked at my phone one day and I was like, oh, I'm a 360 member.

Speaker 49 And I don't really recall how it happened.

Speaker 16 So jealous.

Speaker 49 I don't even know what the perks are, though.

Speaker 136 Like, what is it?

Speaker 9 You just get to, I don't know, sleigh.

Speaker 6 I mean, I did fly so fucking much.

Speaker 112 Right.

Speaker 16 Well,

Speaker 16 I mean,

Speaker 64 I just,

Speaker 42 I guess I'm jealous of you.

Speaker 126 Yeah, current status, Delta 360.

Speaker 77 I'm jealous because you're 360 and because you have stepped into your destiny with get out of my dreams and into my car.

Speaker 135 Get out of my dreams.

Speaker 61 It's now time for Jared Freeder.

Speaker 63 I don't think so, honey. Do you have one? Do you, I know you can do one.

Speaker 129 On this episode, you've contributed enough

Speaker 140 that it means that you come through with a I don't think so, honey.

Speaker 125 Okay, give me five seconds.

Speaker 18 Okay, I have it.

Speaker 91 Ah, do you want to time him?

Speaker 121 One second. Yeah, I'll time him.

Speaker 98 This is Jared Freeder's.

Speaker 72 I don't think so, honey.

Speaker 98 He is time starts new.

Speaker 125 I don't think so, honey. Radio counting for too much to the Billboard Hot 100.

Speaker 125 Why is Morgan Wallen still at number one for the sixth week in a row when Espresso My Girl is still stuck at number three?

Speaker 15 It's radio.

Speaker 125 I don't need these country radio stations playing these racists on and on and on so they can top the charts.

Speaker 99 That's not why I'm gay.

Speaker 125 That's not why Billboard's my homepage. I don't need to see that man's face.
I want Sabrina. I want Chappelle.
I want Charlie.

Speaker 78 I want the streams to count for more.

Speaker 125 I want to know what the people are listening to. Okay.
That should be reflected in these charts.

Speaker 125 I'm tired of, I'm tired of, I mean, much love to iHeartRadio, iHeartRadio, sponsor and host of Lost Culture Isasis.

Speaker 16 But some of these

Speaker 125 other radio stations are just out of control and it's too much. And I think that we would have gotten to 15.
I think Too Most Wanted would have charted higher.

Speaker 125 I think more of tortured poets would have charted higher. Country, go back to country radio unless you're Marin Morris.
And then, honey, welcome.

Speaker 125 You can stay, especially now that you are the B in Legit Batique.

Speaker 71 Did I say that?

Speaker 195 Yes, you did.

Speaker 100 And that's one minute. Jared.

Speaker 162 So, how do you know the country artists don't stream well?

Speaker 125 They stream well, but the reason that like espresso was blocked from the top spot when like everyone in the world was because of Morgan and just like other

Speaker 125 radio-friendly songs. Like we love Tidy Swims, we love Lose Control, we love Benson, but we love beautiful things.

Speaker 125 But these songs that feel like they are not in the culture but remain on the charts because the claws and grips of like 45-year-old men who program radio is stupid.

Speaker 94 Well, I was going to ask you, are you using the word radio as like a shortcut to just saying country radio?

Speaker 72 Because I think it's just country radio playing.

Speaker 77 It's like one part of the radio like piece.

Speaker 125 Exactly. But country radio stations, I feel like take so much of the airwaves because that demographic of people still listen to the radio more than other people do.

Speaker 125 And I just think that like the way that the charts work is that I forget the breakdown of percentage, but streaming, purchasing like iTunes, then like YouTube and like when you're watching something like that's gone viral and then radio all are different components to what adds to charging

Speaker 125 it's too big of a component too big of a percentage and i think that like in the olden timey days radio indicated what songs were the biggest in the country because that was the way that you got music to the people and now that is not the way that we get music to the people people can choose their own music and that really indicates what's number one in the country and i think that radio should count for a lot less But isn't it true, though, that like that would be like, because if a lot of people in the middle and south of the country, like, don't have streamers and they do listen to the radio, like it still is an accurate reflection of the fact that those songs are huge.

Speaker 125 I think that people in the south and the middle of the country are on Spotify and Apple Music.

Speaker 125 I think that like it's no longer like an economic thing because there are ad supported services where people, it's like not.

Speaker 125 It's not like a haves and have nots thing. Like you could make the argument during like the iTunes era when it was like Gaga and Kesho and we were in college and it was like radio or iTunes.

Speaker 125 Well, then like, of course, radio, because not everyone can purchase music in that way, but it's so much more democratized now. Like, it really is not like an economic

Speaker 125 factor in the way that it was. So, I just think it's a little outdated.

Speaker 125 I still think it should make up a portion of percentage points that add to where something charts, but I don't think it should be as high as it is now.

Speaker 125 Like, there's no reason that Espresso did not get number one. Like, it's crazy that Espresso is not number one in the States.
Right.

Speaker 32 It's crazy.

Speaker 78 I think there is some weighting, weightedness around radio.

Speaker 7 Yeah, And also the fact is, like, when a song is played on the radio, like, that is

Speaker 146 like, no one hit play for it.

Speaker 139 Like, like, a radio station was chose to program a certain amount of songs.

Speaker 151 And also, I know there's like a lot of, you know, talk.

Speaker 62 I mean, Maren talked about it when she was on this podcast. Like,

Speaker 49 you know, country radio is not kind to women and it's very competitive, which is, you know, it's just

Speaker 139 these stations are literally saying, okay, we have 20 songs that we play.

Speaker 137 And that's it.

Speaker 62 Like people actually going on Spotify and clicking on certain songs is an elective

Speaker 60 action that should be rewarded in the charts.

Speaker 62 That being said, I also wonder how, and I do have some experience with this, having put out an album and one song was put on playlists.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 92 That is also very powerful and also serves as a.

Speaker 125 thing that someone's not necessarily electing to do because you know it's on a playlist and you might just be playing that playlist i have two responses to that but i do agree with you the first response to that is you have to listen to a song for 30 seconds to count as a stream so they can hit click next and it doesn't count is that a fact yes and then the second thing that i'll also say is that just like

Speaker 125 girl so confusing the lord version was not on new music friday on the playlist on spotify and i was like shook i it's one of the biggest releases that week culturally again and did the stream suffer no it debuted at number 63 because even if it's not on a playlist, if the people want to listen to it, then they will find it.

Speaker 75 But had it been playlisted, it also would have had like a way.

Speaker 106 Right.

Speaker 33 So

Speaker 92 we know that there is something in the streaming world that does also serve as a radio type of waiter that might affect something like this.

Speaker 72 Totally.

Speaker 9 Now, Jared, I feel like has a very granular knowledge of this because he is in a very competitive Billboard fantasy charts league.

Speaker 91 Do you want to speak on that?

Speaker 125 Yeah. Shout out to Emmett, our friend Emmett from Vancouver.

Speaker 125 Yeah, I'm in the Billboard Hot 100 Fantasy League and I always lose because whereas other people will look at what's charting or like what albums are coming out.

Speaker 125 I'm like, oh, I will pick Taylor Swift every, I don't care if she has an album coming out.

Speaker 77 Sharon.

Speaker 142 I will pick Taylor. I always pick the girls.

Speaker 125 I will pick Miley. Did Miley have an album when I had her for her whole semester? She didn't, but I need to pick my girls.

Speaker 9 So I always lose.

Speaker 125 But it's really fun and it's a fun way to keep up with music.

Speaker 16 Do you even lose on Taylor?

Speaker 125 Well, it's because sometimes I don't get to pick Taylor.

Speaker 78 Because like this round,

Speaker 125 like my draft pick was solo and she was dropping.

Speaker 134 Who'd you get?

Speaker 125 Okay. Well, my first pick was Billy, which ended up being a great pick because she performed at the end, but Emmett himself was like, you should trade Billy.

Speaker 125 And I'm like, she's going to come out with an album that's going to slay. So she ended up doing really well.
I had Megan Thee Stallion for a little while, traded her.

Speaker 125 I have Kendrick Lamar, which has worked out for me in spades because of this rap feud.

Speaker 71 Oh, yes, Ebbett was telling me that.

Speaker 83 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 16 That that's very huge.

Speaker 125 And I had Jack Harlow, which at the time when we did the draft, Loving On Me is like, was then number one for six weeks.

Speaker 125 And I still hold the record in my fantasy league for having the most number ones, even though I don't earn the most points.

Speaker 151 That's a lot.

Speaker 42 And it's a lot.

Speaker 71 We have to thank Jack Harlow.

Speaker 142 We have to thank Jack Harlow.

Speaker 129 We have to thank Jack Harlow. And we also have to thank Jared because Jared came on this episode mad as hell.

Speaker 45 And he, you spit so much rhyme and bars.

Speaker 125 Thank you so much. It It was a pleasure to be here.

Speaker 32 Cute boy with a sink of mine.

Speaker 69 I have one more thing to say.

Speaker 115 Yeah, what do you want to say to everyone before we go on vacation?

Speaker 42 Gosh.

Speaker 57 I don't know.

Speaker 152 Well, this is what you're going to leave them with.

Speaker 83 To the airport.

Speaker 51 To the airport. To the airport.

Speaker 51 To the airport.

Speaker 77 I hope Gal Ga does a moon album.

Speaker 62 I think she will.

Speaker 146 You want to know why?

Speaker 59 Why?

Speaker 59 Cause I'm on the edge.

Speaker 92 We end every episode of the song. I'm glory.

Speaker 92 And I'm heading on a moin and rule.

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