"Joyful Joyful" (w/ Constantine Rousouli)

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Look, man.

Oh, I see.

Oh, my.

Bowen, look over there.

Wow, is that the culture?

Yes.

Goodness.

Wow.

Lost cultureistas.

Ding-dong.

Lost cultureistas calling.

Before we got on, I said,

lost culture.

Like as if we had to snap into it.

I feel like we've never had to really...

hit the dials before in that way, but we were coming off of like a spirited discussion about what we will never tell.

We will never tell what we just told.

It's actually real culture number nine.

We will never tell what we just told.

And I'm also in my like literal morning show bag.

You are warmed up, chatterbox.

You are doing a great job.

You look so good on that TV.

Thank you, sister.

Something with those cameras is really, I gotta say, I look pretty good.

So snatched.

And you wore like a blue moment.

Yeah.

Blue is the warmest color.

It's actually reloculture number 10.

Blue is the warmest color.

How has it been so far?

You just finished day two of five.

I'm having the best time.

Isn't it wonderful?

I told Matt this.

We checked in yesterday.

I was like, how was it?

He was like, it's great.

It was, it's so fun.

And I go, I like totally get why people do this.

This is a nice gig.

It's so much fun.

And by the way, the sound dude who's an icon loves you.

Oh, I love him.

And your beloved.

Get this.

Bowen Yang, beloved in 30 Rock.

It's actually real culture number 11.

Get this, Bo and Yang, beloved in 30 Rock.

And, you know, 30 Rockefeller Center is in the heart of one of the greatest cities in the world, New York City.

And And there has been an off-brawling musical.

You're never going to believe this.

I really do feel like I'm doing the morning show.

You're never going to believe it.

You're never going to believe it.

Wait, you need to, there has to be a list somewhere of like little filler phrases for talk shows in general, but especially morning shows where you're like, it's never coming to you.

Have you heard about this?

Have you ever heard this yet?

I found myself doing it.

Coming up, we have a cooking demo from...

No, no, no, no, my segments were makeover.

Loved that.

We're getting a makeover on Friday.

I love the makeovers.

This is going to be fun.

And then guy who showed us how to properly use a plunger.

That's actually really good.

And you know what I asked him?

Guys, listen up.

You can wash the plunger with your toilet water.

What?

After you plunge, make sure you flush, obviously, put a little bit of bleach or whatever toilet bowl cleaner you have in there.

And then just like, you just dip it in, kind of rinse it out.

And then that's all you have to do.

I always got so stressed out after my shit covered plungers would come out the toilet.

Yeah, I'm now thinking, I just want to apologize.

I just just moved out of my apartment that I had been renting from one Matt Risch.

And I just want to say apologies, dude.

That plunger is covered in poop.

You could have rented it.

No, I couldn't have because I didn't.

I didn't know you.

I didn't have you here to tell me what to do.

Morning TV is so important.

But I could never talk about poop-covered plunger on morning TV.

You know what I'm saying?

This is why I'm so happy to be here.

I feel like I can finally breathe because I'm with my sister and this is not morning TV.

Although people do listen to it in the morning.

Can you imagine listening to us in the morning?

No.

No.

I would say, well, I guess maybe if you want to be like shocked into the day.

I mean, get the fag off the airwaves.

I'm not listening to that.

You know what I almost did today is my I don't think so, honey.

I don't think so, honey, that this podcast has become popular.

I just feel like

maybe I will do it later.

Do it later.

Because then people are like, why are they screaming during I don't think so, honey?

And I'm like, babe, you're joining us in progress.

It's in media res.

It's in media res.

res we screamed during that part of the podcast and during a lot of the other parts of it too here's what i screamed for oh wait i just cut you off i'm never gonna believe this was an off-broadway show in new york can i say you literally did not cut me off i feel like i diverted well your feelings aren't facts

okay hey trump

um anyway

That's

your feelings aren't facts, bitch.

That's real coach number 12.

Hey, Trump.

Your feelings aren't facts, bitch.

Watch that be the headline.

I would love that.

Yeah, I mean, should lost coach start to feud with trump we have to move to ireland like rosie

well listen so what do you scream for i scream for this off-broadway show that's been in new york for a few years now it has been truly a community building cornerstone for theater for theater goers for people in the community for tourists from all over the world My own mother saw this show and I would never take my mom to any Broadway show.

She slept through Hamilton.

See, I don't get that because it's so loud.

It's a loud show, but we went on a Sunday after an SNL and they were, we were all tired.

Linman Well, this has nothing to do with it.

This has nothing to do with you.

So you did amazing work on Hamilton.

It's actually really close.

Number 13.

Lin Manuel, you did amazing work on Hamilton.

It has nothing to do with you.

That his mom fell asleep.

But listen, I think I know what show you're talking about, and that show is Titanique.

And I know that because, well, our guest is not only one of the original stars of it, but also the co-creator, co-writer.

And I feel as though I have to harken back to the very first time I saw our guest, which was at La Poisson-Rouge

in a um

iconic production of Cruel Intentions: the musical, unauthorized,

which also starred Amanda Schechtman.

She was playing Sarah Michelle Geller, and our guest was playing Ryan Phillippe.

And one of the first things I ever saw was your bare ass, and now he shows his ass every goddamn night

out in public.

but no this is like truly a moment in time because we saw this show titanique and we were literally took to the mic and just let everybody know and i've been so proud to see what it's done i just saw it in the west end it's in australia it's in canada it's like it's all over the place i mean this is a true success story it's now an olivier award-winning musical our guest is an olivier award winner drama desk lucia lorteland all the ones except tony's until they get their tonies until they get their shit together.

But they kind of just nailed it on some of the nominations.

We can talk about that.

We can talk about that.

He's so wonderful.

What a funny writer, performer, talent, friend, traveler, world traveler.

We'll talk about this.

Always around the world.

Always around the world with his hot little friends.

Everybody.

Everyone says something to your ears.

Konstantin Rizzoli.

Oh my God.

First of all, LOL to that introduction.

I am so gooped and gagged to be here with my girls.

We forgot to say the big news, which is yes, oh my gosh, that Titanique, you can see it in New York until June 15th.

And then do you want to tell them what's so special about those final weeks?

Yeah, hot off the press, everyone.

Hot off the press.

Marla Mandela and I will be coming back into the show for the final two weeks.

And if we, you know, sell out lots and lots and lots of tickets, maybe we'll pull a Phantom of the Opera and extend for another six months.

You were willing to say that on this show?

I don't know.

We'll see.

Maybe, you know, all of these lost cults people

who listen

can figure it out.

There's now so many readers, Katie's publicists, and finalists.

And I think that, Ken Kyles, you have an opportunity here.

You have a big opportunity.

Yes.

Because how many times did you do it in the new space, the bigger space?

The bigger space, like a year, a year.

Yeah, okay.

Because it was like half a year.

It was like six months at the old UCB space asylum that you guys know, the asylum,

you know, in the basement of a Gristides, which was wild, just mold, rats.

It smelled awful.

It was

really bad.

But you know what?

it was like our favorite time yeah

where were your dress like where did you guys do changes and where was what was the dress behind a curtain literally or in like a closet but there's no space no there's not absolutely nothing it was those two rooms and we split all the boys in one and all the girls

right and then there were like the guts like those gray brick hallways not brick even it was just like those but those were the smelly parts that was gross there was always an inch of water on the floor oh absolutely it was the actual titanic oh i was like oh this is very on-brand.

Let's go here.

Weren't there like Gracidi's basement-specific jokes in the original show?

Yes.

At the end of the show, Marla would say, thank you all for coming tonight in the basement of a Grassides.

And then we had to switch it, you know, when we left.

When you moved to the bottom, when we moved to the Daryl Roth Theater, which is in Union Square.

Yes, I knew that.

Fuerza Bruta.

So I went to Fuerza Bruta.

Oh, my God.

I just.

Fuerza is watching.

The ghost.

The ghost of Fuerza.

What is Fuerza Bruta?

I don't remember.

All I remember is taking

a gummy, and I was so...

Can I curse?

Yeah,

it's iHeartRadio.

I was so fucking high that I looked up and remember they had this water crazy thing.

I never saw it.

Okay, well, anyway, there was this immersive, crazy, no one knows what it is.

They're up in the rafters in this water thing.

And I thought I was A, drowning.

Yeah.

B, panic attacked.

C, immediately left and got food.

And got food.

You got to get

and put myself to bed because I was like, I've got to get

to get the fuck out of Forzabrutz before I drown.

Before I drown and die,

I'm on the floor.

Like, get it together quick.

It happens sometimes.

I remember one time I was too high in the pool and I had to get out because I was positive I was going to be attacked by a shark.

That's these gummies.

Babe, I think that was meth.

That was meth.

Sorry, babe.

That was a meth gummy.

That was a meth attack.

With a Vivance

pill that you pulled into.

A little rainbow sprinkle.

Y'all don't fuck with water, though, though, but

y'all are so tied to water in so many ways.

Titanium Greek.

Being Greek.

Sister.

Make out.

Honestly.

Wait, though.

What do you mean?

I do think I'm a Pisces person.

You know what I mean?

Greek.

Also, you're Titanique.

I'm Titanique Water.

I mean, I'm an Aries, so she's fire as hell.

Is that cusp?

No, I'm full Aries.

Okay, full Aries.

LOL.

No, Cusp is the 21st, which is Pisces Aries.

Yeah, okay.

Because my sister's the 21st, so she's a cuspy bitch.

Yeah, cuspy.

But we love her.

Hi, Ren.

Hi, Ren.

Hi, Ren.

You cuspy ass, shady bitch.

You and Ren are the, are the, are, are the Sibs, are the resistance?

She's two years older.

Best friend.

Amazing.

Love.

You kind of give little brother.

Oh, I'm the child baby.

No.

I mean, it's perfect.

It's Aries.

Like, I'm the baby of the zodiac.

She's a motherfucker.

Is Aries the baby of the zodiac?

Yeah, you can either look at it as like baby of the zodiac or like the super like grandmother of who's who's grandmother then um who's who's on the other side of aries that it's supposed to like be like the the end of i don't know well but that's pisces

Oh,

I'm last.

So you're

my grandma.

Pis grandmother.

Yeah.

Hey, G-Ma.

Hi, baby.

I love you, baby.

Hi, baby boy.

I'm so proud of you.

You've done well.

I die.

Immediately died.

Death by grandma.

God, death, it's so awful.

And so, why did you want to capitalize on it with Titanique?

On death.

On death?

Because you know what?

It's going to be a brutal death when we leave New York City, and that's because you people didn't want to buy tickets.

Wait, it's like you're not closing tickets.

It's not buying tickets.

I'm just kidding.

I mean, it's listen, we've lasted three years, which is in these

streets now and in dem times.

Yeah.

Can you believe that a little tiny ass off-Broadway show could literally survive three years of a pandemic into

Trump?

Yeah.

It's just absolutely mind-boggling that we still have been here and we've now gone all over the world.

And I have to say, I have to say, and I always say this, it's literally because of you two.

no yes i'm a second i'm taking it now i'm sorry it's true if if you're okay let's assume that's true what is not true is that it's both of us it i think it does squarely fall on matt the credit can i no listen to me both of you all i know is and i'm we're both gonna take this we saw the show and it was like it just reminded me it actually literally inspired me because i was like a

I'm not dragging what goes on on Broadway.

In fact, I think it's been a great few last couple of years.

But I also think that the influence of that show and how much joy it brought and how much real comedy it brought, as well as like the incredible music, obviously, of Celine Dion, it just feels like it was a joyful idea that then became a joyful process, that then became a joyful performance that then resulted in all this like joyful like discussion and consumption of it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, listen.

Joyful consumption is a front runner for Title II.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Joyful, joyful.

This Sister act too.

Sister act two.

Go into it.

Really good.

It was easy to talk about.

So you guys were so wonderful.

I mean, granted, like I had known of you.

We had met a couple of times.

And then you guys were just so lovely.

And you really like championed this little tiny baby project in the bottom of Graceides.

And you got, you put the word out there.

So like, we are so grateful.

I am so grateful.

I love you.

I mean, I just want to reiterate that to the listeners

because it's really true.

Like you have people who champion you and like push you forward.

And you guys are so incredible at that and always paving the way for other people.

And it's not just one-sided.

You are just uplifting.

And I'm so inspired by both of you.

And I love you to death.

And that is my I don't think so, honey.

And that was

my God.

A positive, I don't think so.

Sorry, second root.

I mean, I always tell you, but I really need everybody to know that like everybody has their own path and like people can be nice and help each other out in this crazy ass business in the world.

Everybody, just be kind and be nice.

Yeah, absolutely.

And it really just goes a long way.

And we are, you know, we're just, we love you and we're so thankful.

Well, we have always, I've seen the show, I can count on two hands now, the number of times I've seen it, but I think losers.

Across the world, I know losers.

Nothing to do on the weekend.

I literally, we were in London for how many days?

Two, three.

But we had to see what it was giving us.

You have to know if it's giving.

It's giving.

Our babies are giving.

It's really good.

I love

it.

And the vocals.

The vocals.

I mean, everybody's vocals are insane in this show like truly unbelievable but like the vocals in london i'm like you monsters know how to sing yeah it's giving olivier award winning and nominated performers all up and down like a damn yeah but uh an iceberg bitch won uh

olivier yes yeah for iceberg layton or layton williams congratulations

layton is truly unbelievable yeah i mean the whole cast is unbelievable i love them to death i just saw them i was in london last night and got back i can't believe world traveler world traveler world Traveler.

Paris theater.

Then London.

Then London, Milan.

Yeah.

Bus, bus.

No o'clock.

Not a club.

No sleep.

Yeah.

Anyway, but yeah, the London production is unbelievable.

It's at the criterion.

Go see it if you're in London.

And that's ongoing.

That is running until, as of now, I think January of 2026.

So work.

Work.

And now it's in Paris as well.

Work.

Unbelievable.

You just went to the theater in Paris?

Went to the theater in Paris, the Lido Theater.

It's at the Champs de Lusée in that fierce area.

Fierce.

Oh my God.

Did we go to Crazy Horse?

Oh, Oh my god, can you talk about that?

I think, I, I think, I think we should go.

You guys, let's go.

No, no, no, no.

We're going to France next month.

Okay, well, period.

It has to be first on your list.

It's one of the best shows I've ever seen in my life.

Wow.

The women are.

I'm gay as hell.

The women are the hottest things I've ever seen.

I get it.

Truly, like stunning tits.

Good tits.

Tits.

But like, not fake.

It's just like natural, gorgeous bodies.

Okay.

And I heard that from their tit to their navel, they all have to have the exact same inches.

But they can have like little like kitten heels and like, I know.

That sounds devastating.

Sorry, Beth.

Sorry, Beth.

You're a half an inch off, baby.

Hit the road.

Literally, you can choke, Beth.

Wow.

You'll never get this job.

But yeah, no, it's unbelievable.

But it's, it's so precise in the lighting.

It's the art.

It is art.

It is art.

It's like Picasso.

I'm like, what the fuck am I seeing?

It is crazy.

Oh, my God.

The most unreal horse.

I've ever seen.

No, did they bring out a horse?

No, I wish.

Look at that horse.

Look at that horse.

look at that horse yeah we should we should see cowboy carter in paris and then go to we are we are yeah make it a horse though we have the tickets we were told someone was getting the tickets matt whitaker is supposed to buy us tickets

okay whatever yes okay so our plan you tell me everything we're gonna be in can

from the 15th to the 19th because we're promoting our culture awards which you have performed on we won we won

best indoor live performance indoor live performance yeah um went to titanium two years ago best night of my life by the way.

That was so much fun.

You guys, if you can ever get to a live taping, live taping.

Live taping.

Live taping.

Isn't it live taping?

I know.

Isn't it crazy?

I felt like it was like the gay Super Bowl.

I came out and they were like,

and I was like, wait, you have A, no idea who I am, but I love this.

And I was eating it up.

But they did know, didn't they?

No, but it was so.

Our audience was just as excited for Titanique as they were for like when Julia Fox came out.

Exactly.

You guys, I felt it.

I mean, my pussy fell out i was like oh my god this is what it's like to like be lady gaga in front of like

everybody there were at least 200 people in that crowd who've seen you be fiero

you know what i mean have seen you on cool intuition wait literally let's talk about this so you've been fiero and link and link and jack and jack and ryan philippi wow and i'm gay as hell yeah looking for that means that you can do it you can do it too i mean

gay actors work first of all let's talk about that fiero who's jonathan bailey in the movie movie.

Then we got Link, who's Zach Efron in the movie.

Then we have Leo DiCaprio, heard of him, who's Jack in the film.

And then we have Ryan Philippe.

That's a bang off.

If I've ever.

That is a Demon Twink.

That is a Demon Twink's dream come true.

Like, Lalapalooza.

Listen, I don't take it for granted, honey, okay?

It's come on.

You were tying it all together.

Yeah, the mentally ill broke ass version.

Cool.

Stop.

Holler at me.

At Constantine Rizzuli.

They will, and you know they will.

They They will.

They holler.

They holler.

You come up on my hinge a lot because it's like, these are like, these are the hot guys

top shelf.

Anyone say hello?

How?

Well, because I'm like, first of all, someone I know, it's like, no, I know it's so weird.

It's weird.

And also,

it's a weird thing because some people then take it because you've done this before.

When you've seen a friend, you're like, hey, stupid.

I see you.

And you're like, whatever.

And then it says that.

Then there's other people who take it too far and they're like, wow, actually, Matt is really into me.

And then you're like, wait, actually, that was was a joke.

I'm

eexical.

And then you have to,

you can't even be like too clear about it.

You can't clarify, by the way, um, I, I am attracted to you, but I don't think we would be a good match.

It's like, but why would you like why would you?

I'll give you a call later.

Hey, I know that we just did this crazy bid on Hinge, but this is me really calling to say I'd be down.

That I'm, I get less crazy, yeah, I get less demisexual as I get older because I just value my friendship so much.

So do I, sure, you know what I'm saying?

So do I.

But it's hard.

It's a hard thing to figure out when you're a gay guy with fun, cool, attractive friends because, of course,

it's really hard to be a gay guy with fun, cool, attractive friends.

What I mean is like, it's, what I mean is it's like, it's a difficult thing mentally because it's like you sort of get in your head of like, okay, well, why not?

Well, then it's like, and friendships are important.

Of course.

You know what I mean?

And it's like.

It's like I said to a friend recently, I was talking about like a mutual friend of ours.

And I was like, yeah, I don't know.

I just had kind of a thought.

And my friend goes, you know what that is?

Friendship.

That's actually okay.

And I was like, okay, yeah.

It doesn't have to be a thing I do gymnastics in my head about.

You know what I mean?

Sometimes it's like, yeah, I have a friend that I'm like a little attracted to and it's my friend and I can have that boundary.

Absolutely.

How long, what's the tradition of you and Jake and Gus and like, and like those pals?

Oh my God,

my besties.

Your besties.

You guys have to be true.

You guys are always having a blast.

I know we are.

It's just they're monsters.

They're truly absolute monsters.

And I wish them nothing but negativity.

Yeah.

And that's a shout out.

That's That's a shout out to my girls, my, my Hermanas.

We have our thread as your sisters.

We're all getting tattoos that say Hermanas, but like one's getting her, I'm Ma.

And I think Gus is not

LOL.

Can you believe it?

He's like, and then we put it together and be like, you guys, okay.

Someone's taken a side in the battle against Jay-Z.

Please, welcome to the stage.

Yeah, they're the best.

I mean, they're my brothers.

Like, they're the brothers I never had.

I've known Jake for like 20 years now, which is insane.

We met um on Facebook because everybody said we used to look alike, which we do.

Um, when we have the same hair, we're like very twinning, twinning, yeah.

But back in the day when we were actual twinks, um, people would stop me on the street and be like, Are you Jake Wilson?

Yeah, go big blue, and I'm like, What are you talking about?

And then they go to him and they'd be like, Are you Constantine Rasuli?

And he was like, Who is that?

And then he found me on Facebook and he was like, Whoa, I think we should go out for a drink.

And then he

my space, my space stroke.

Then he Facebooks me and he's like, let's go out for a drink.

And I'm like, okay.

I was like, everybody says we look alike doppelganger.

I met him.

We go to Wait for This, Bourbon Street on 46th Street.

Remember that place?

Wow.

Yeah.

Back in the day.

Dating in that area.

Wild.

I used to live on 52nd and 9th, like above therapy, which is hush now.

Wow.

Good luck with my project.

Go to sleep, honey.

Like, literally go to sleep.

Go to sleep.

No, can't.

No.

Too much thumping.

So yeah, that's how we met.

And I was like, lol, you are rich and we'll never date.

And then years later, we crossed paths again.

So wait, you went on a date, though, initially?

Initially, and I was like, haha, this is fun.

Cool.

Bye.

So there was no smooching?

Nothing.

And then two years later, I'm on tour with Legally Blonde in LA.

Who were you in Legally Blonde?

I was Nicos,

that one.

And then I Warner after.

So yeah, so I'm doing it all.

Connie.

Wow,

yeah, with no career.

You're not going to be able to do it.

Flying my way to the middle.

Well, then I was like, because, wait, okay, so you guys meet up two years later.

Two years later, my roommate at the time and other like very good friend, Courtney, she was like, hey, my best friend from college is coming.

And I was like, yeah, cool, whatever.

He can stay in our apartment.

And she goes, well, there's no bed.

So like you have a king-size bed.

So I guess he's going to have to stay in your room.

And I was like, Courtney, that's crazy.

Courtney, take your break.

Courtney took her break.

Literally.

And then she was like, I was like, who is it?

And she's like, oh, it's Jake Wilson.

And I was like, are you kidding me?

I was like, that guy who's like my doppelganger.

And how long had it been again since the last time?

Two years.

Okay, okay.

Then she shows up to to la like a bat out of hell comes into like into the fucking oakwood suite apartments and i was like hon what is happening and then you know besties besties ever since slept in my bed we like turned it was like one of those movies and i was like i think we're gonna be best friends

and then we were like kickle like kiki gaggle oh i love it it was the best ever and then gus came in you know 10 years later yeah and just wreaked havoc yeah sure yeah y'all three of y'all are the best the best and there's but there's like the right amount of chaos there from each of you.

Oh, beyond, you know what I mean?

Beyond, I think, like, yeah, it's a good buddy system three, great, you know what I mean?

Like, I can never travel with anybody else.

There's three of us, that's it.

Wait, but did you feel seen by White Lotus?

Cast ourselves.

We were just in Paris, in London, lol, talking about that.

And I brought them, I brought them as my date to opening.

And we were like, we are the basic bitches from White Lotus.

And I was like, which ones are you?

I was like, go.

We just did that last week with Joel Kim.

Yeah, we cast ourselves.

Who are you in the three?

I'm, I would probably be um

Michelle.

Yeah, you're Michelle.

I'm Michelle.

I'm Michelle too.

I'm a Michelle.

And then who are you?

Who are you?

Um, I think I'm Caring Han.

It's like me, Joel.

Yeah, go on.

I think Joel is just

Leslie Bibb.

Yeah, yeah.

You're that

big Trumper.

That Joel Kim

Kim Booster.

You got a fan in Joel Kim Booster.

T-R-U-M-P, more like JKB.

It's actually really cool to number 14.

T-R-U-M-P, more like JKB.

He's gonna

punch all of us.

We'll like it.

Yeah, we'll love it.

Totally.

Punch me.

Punch me.

Yeah.

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Well, if you haven't seen Platonic on Apple TV Plus, you need to add it to yours now.

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If you have seen it, you already know that.

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These two are just so funny together.

I love them.

Luke McFarlane and Carla Gallo are so back this season alongside new guest stars, including some seriously funny SNL alums, Adie Bryant, Kyle Mooney, and Beck Bennett, and the fabulous Milo Mannheim.

If you haven't seen season one, catch up immediately.

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I think you mean amazing.

Are you dating now?

She's on hinge.

Single as hell.

Single as hell.

What do you want?

What's on the list?

What do you want?

What's I need to do a pros and cons list?

And I feel like I've been told it's like the thing you're supposed to do.

And I still haven't gotten around to doing it.

So give us yours.

Pros, be an actual human.

Be a legit person.

I need you to do the fucking work.

Yep.

Get up every day, meditate, go to therapy.

I mean, know who you are.

Have a great relationship with your family and friends.

And

just like respect yourself and respect people, love people, care about people.

I don't know.

Have something

that

makes you wake up every morning.

Are you grateful for it?

I want gratitude.

I want a funny person.

I want a kind, respectful human who gets it.

Just don't play games.

Like these, these fucking days are wild.

Let me tell you.

They're wild.

And it's always like, what's, you know, around the corner.

And it's like, you know what?

How about you just look in front of you and get to know a human and like pull back a fucking layer instead of sitting there and being like, you're really cool for the moment.

And then, but I'm completely looking around the corner.

Well, that's like all of LA, which is why I moved back.

Well, that's why, oh, I had to leave.

You can't.

You had to leave.

You're a little incensed about this.

I am.

I'm pissed.

Yeah.

No.

Okay.

So talk about this.

Have you been given the runaround?

Oh, for years.

For years, the runaround.

Or the ghosting is actually.

Can we not ghost you?

Can we not ghost?

Why would someone ghost you?

Because I feel like people, they think that they know what they want.

They think that they're ready for a relationship or they're ready to, you know, open up and they have, it's no idea.

It's all bullshit.

You know, it's like, it's face value.

It's, it's a facade.

It's like, okay, I get it.

You're insecure and this is how you go about.

doing that.

But you should also be respectful, human, and say, I don't know, it's communication.

If you're not feeling it, if you're asking me out and you're pursuing me and you've DM'd me and slid into my fucking DMs and found my phone number and sent a letter by stork.

And then you have the audacity to not even respond after we go out on a date and it was actually good.

And you're telling me these things are like, wow, this was incredible.

You're really an amazing person.

I'm so happy we met.

And then a full-on ghost, at least grow the fucking balls.

We are too old.

We are too old for the show.

You can easily, I would respect you

so much more if you came to me and said, hey, that was incredible.

You're an amazing person.

I just don't think we're a match.

I would love to be friends.

And if not, you know, I'm happy we got to do that.

And I'd be like, you know what?

Incredible.

Thank you.

And I have to say, like,

I think people are doing it more than they were, but

I get those messages and I'm not upset.

Me neither.

All I feel is fine about it.

I'm like, wow, that's awesome.

Maybe we could be friends.

I do have a lot of friends.

I have a lot of friends, but still I'm happy you're honest and open.

Totally.

Instead of, well, that's also coming from people who actually, you know, are not going to freak out and

go insane because we're not insecure.

Totally.

So it's like, if you're like, you do the work, whatever.

I would love to, I'd rather hear that.

And I feel like the other people who are ghosting are so insecure that they're probably afraid of the other persons that's going to, they're going to yell at in confrontation.

And it's like, I get it, but like you will be better off.

Trust me, because I'm going to see your ass at a fucking party.

Absolutely.

And I'm going to see you all over New York City and or all over the world.

Yeah.

So

why make it awkward?

That's what sucks sometimes.

The thing that chaps my ass is like how small the gay community is.

Oh, yeah.

Where it's like, um, yeah, I dated this person and ended not well or whatever.

I'm dealing with this.

And someone was like, well, who is it?

I'm like, you don't know him.

They do.

Who is it?

And then I say the name and it's like, oh, yeah, this person.

And I'm just like, I'm in hell.

Yeah.

Because I'm just like, it makes you feel like you're in like a rat maze.

You know what I mean?

Like, no matter what, you're going to end up at like a dead end or like you're going to run out of like, which is a crazy thought.

Yeah.

But I do think it's worse in LA than New York.

Like my bit is like, there's there's like 6 million gays in New York and 33 in Los Angeles.

So broadening scope in terms of dating has become important to me because I kind of do want ultimately my partner to be someone that's like my partner.

Like I don't really want to hear about their history.

No.

You know what I'm saying?

Totally.

Yeah, because there can be 100 days in a room and if 99.

And

99

and 99 have fucked each other.

99 literally have all fucked each other.

That's really culture.

Every 15.

There could be 100 days in a row, and 99 have fucked each other, but it only takes one to believe in you, and that's Browdy Cooper.

Well, yes, I hear it.

No, wait.

Hard launch with Gigi, though.

Hard launch with Gigi.

Dispel the rumors, they hard-launched their relationship on one of those.

So she posted a carousel, and it was number 18 in the carousel.

We just talked about

it, carousel.

You good says?

You good sis?

Carousel.

If you find out I'm having a full-blown stroke, both of you.

I had strokes today this morning i mean god forbid but literally you just got off

a plane i'm still jet lagged as hell yeah well i understand we just did the best carousel

at epic universe epic universe in orlando you have to go it's in celestial park can't wait you you hermana should go to

hermana should go to orlando

orlando

why haven't you been in that show um I originally auditioned for it to be, what's his face's standby?

Andrew Reynolds.

Andrew Reynolds.

And Andrew actually got me the audition oh

and then i went in but it was um or he had told him he was like you should really see connie for this um but it was like back in the day when i was so young and it was the time when they weren't giving scripts out to anybody i don't like that so i had to go in at 10 a.m learn that crazy song

and then they're like bye see you at noon or two when you audition in front of the whole team without knowing any material you're just like have fun like sight read this and then here's here's the side and just cold read i was like are you kidding me and and then they were like

you're not the right type of funny and i said are you not the right type of funny i go i am comedy it's like you become fanny bryce yeah i'll show you

like why would you why would you see that's a devastating thing to be told that you're not the right kind of funny i know isn't that sad do you that was the book of mormon who we missed if no people missed they did miss of course but you know

it was too andrew was was incredible all of them were incredible

too high i'm a high baritone okay I'm not going to pussy pop these notes and have a mental breakdown.

Yeah.

Eight shows a week on stage to be like, I believe.

Like, I'm not going to do that a lot.

It's crazy.

It's too.

I'm like, also, can we lower the keys for men?

That's an Idol Things money that I'm going to get to later.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The jig is up.

We all do not have to be screaming, fucking like mixy bitches.

Bowen just said no.

No, no, no.

Bowen is a counter tenor.

No, no, I know.

I know.

First of all, you said something so pressured the other day, which is being born with an AMAB voice is a curse.

It's true.

It's true.

It's true.

Did we make that a real culture?

We did not make that a real culture.

It was a real culture that we're 15.

Being born with an AMAB voice is a curse.

We're off to the races on rules today.

Absolutely.

The rules are coming in hot.

Can I say something, though?

Someone commented, and I just, I just, I, I made the mistake of reading the comments on the sketch I did with Gaga where we sang Wonderful Tonight.

And someone was like, Bowen's only, Bowman's only a scream singer.

And I'm like,

how dare you?

Can I just pull back the curtain and say that I am proud of myself for just being present with one of our great rehearsers, Lady Gaga?

She wanted to run that song a bajillion times and we delayed rehearsals for it because I was like, no, we're getting this right because she looks at me and she goes, I think it'll be funnier if we're really good at it.

And I said, absolutely.

I always think that about musical comedy.

If it's

so much funnier.

I agree.

And then we just, we had to find the, we like

auditioned like seven different keys and I somehow kept my shit together next to Stephanie Germanata and I was like, I'm with you wherever you want to go.

And whatever.

I'm not like, I'm only bringing this up because the keys are hard and any, any AMAB voice that has to adapt to a key is doing a lot of, a lot of emotional labor just for themselves in the audience.

And I'm just saying that Gaga was fucking incredible.

First of all,

that was not, that was not

easy and it was not scream singing.

I actually was impressed by how effortless it felt.

Like you were kind of just like tossing it up there and I was just like really proud of you.

But the last time I felt that way that I was like tossing it up was at Chromatica Ball.

Well, you want to know why?

Because when you're on mushrooms, you're the best singer in the world.

It's actually a little coach number 16.

When you're on mushrooms, you're the best singer in the world.

Did you hear that?

Yep.

What?

So you're, would you say counter baritone?

No, I'm a high baritone.

High baritone.

Sorry.

Sorry.

I mean, I can like with a fierce mix, though.

Like, my mix is unbelievable.

But yeah, but like everybody is like screaming.

it.

And they're like, can you full voice that?

I'm like, how about you full voice?

You're footing your ass.

Yeah, have you shut up?

I wrote a lot of my Christmas music when I was 27.

And

you can fucking tell.

You can fucking tell.

What do you mean?

Because like lube for the sleigh, my song,

the bridge is a belted, like ooh vowel on lube.

It's just like, it's crazy.

Totally.

And you know what's funny is it's like, I didn't realize I didn't know how to sing my own music until I started with a voice coach and it broke it all open for me.

Now I like love going there, like warming up your voice.

Like do you stay on top of your vocal health?

I do.

I mean, yes and no.

I mean, I feel like after doing eight shows a week is, is insane.

And you're just like mentally and physically drained.

So you're like, I need like a month or two off like between gigs or like whatever.

But yeah, I mean, there's definitely those moments where you have to be on it.

Like I'll always check.

It's like a sick and sick and twisted like space that you wake up in.

You're like, hmm, hmm,

yeah.

You wake up every day and you're like, I have to check.

Even it's like three months the show's done.

You're like, oh, I'm still checking to see if my voice is there.

It's just a mental, it's crazy.

Sure.

We call it musical theater mental illness, but it's wonderful.

It's not mentally.

It's not mental illness.

It's, no, it's.

But you got to stay on it for sure.

You're keeping your chops up.

Yeah.

I mean, you don't know when, you know,

Broadway is going to call and say, hey,

you're on.

It's time to shred, bitch.

Time to shred, bitch.

I mean, this literally just happened after pandemic.

Do you remember like the height of Broadway coming back and everything was canceled?

Everybody was getting COVID for the eighth time.

Right, right, right, right, right.

Like trying to get these shows back open and blah, blah, blah.

I hadn't done Wicked for seven years.

And I got a phone call.

It's Christmas Eve, like two days before Christmas Eve.

And I'm back in Jersey at my mom's and I'm at the gym because, you know, got to get the workout done before the Christmas spirit.

So I go to the gym up the street and I get a phone call from my stage manager from Wicked, who I hadn't spoken to in forever, Mary Beth Abel, who I love.

And she was like, ah, she calls me Stan, Constantine.

If you guys didn't catch that.

So then she literally calls me, she goes,

Stan?

And I go, MB.

She goes, what are you doing?

I was like, what are you doing?

She's like, well, what are you doing?

I was like, I'm at the gym.

She's like, so do you want to come back into the show tomorrow night?

And I was like, tomorrow night.

I was like, what?

No, not even to be VR because I first started as the understudy.

And she goes, in your original track from

seven years, 12.

It had been like 12 years, but I hadn't been back in the show for like seven.

Seven.

Got it.

And I was like, ma'am, you want me to put that skirt track on?

And you want me to like, I don't know, lift a bitch, stage right for In the Dark and be a cog in a wheel.

And she was like, yep.

Yep, basically.

She's like, you remember it, right?

I was like, are you kidding me?

She goes, you'll be fine.

I marched my ass to that theater, got back into my old costumes, because the best thing about Wicked is these motherfuckers have your costumes in crazy Ziploc bags in a warehouse.

And they just call an assistant.

They're like, get Connie Rasuli's costume from circa 2010, blah, blah, blah, shoes and all, literally in a beautiful package.

Oh my God.

Blaid out on this dressing room table.

And you're like, wait.

This is it.

LOL, am I going to fit into this?

Because I was a twink back then.

You did.

You know what?

I had a fat ass and a bad attitude and I went right into it.

Wow.

Great attitude.

Great attitude.

No, it was great.

But it was crazy.

I was like, this is psychotic.

Speaking of, you know, just getting random phone calls and having to be ready to be ready.

Well, oh my God.

You're describing two impossible situations, one involving sight reading, which is that's an answer.

That was crazy.

True.

I don't read music.

So I just like, I know.

I'm one of those.

I don't even understand what they thought.

Like, my thing is like, okay, so, and probably this is a little bit the deal, but it's like, do you want it to be be good or do you want it to be not good?

And maybe sometimes they want it to be not good so they can just like like invalidate people.

But like, that's so awful.

Can you speak a little bit?

What is what the fuck is auditioning for musical theater?

I did it twice and I clearly have to kill myself.

It is literally it's hell.

They give you like 87 fucking packets of material and like, haha, learn this in one day.

And you're like, wait a second, I have to now.

Back in the day when we started, I had to hire a pianist, get, put it down on a stupid like voice.

which is money by the way

yeah yeah and

money and time and like you know going to just hire a penis is like at least a hundred dollars and i'm like cool can you just play this for me and like plunk this out so i can learn it within four hours i mean it's crazy they give you the stuff and then they want you to be as off book as possible so it's like you're epically going in and failing so talent it's so that's such a setup and then if like you're like wow i'm really good for this part i remember being like oh wow this is really something that i'm dying to do and i'm really good for it and it's just written musically a little bit too high.

Right.

Because the person who did it in the fucking workshop or the reading, you know, has a higher voice than you.

And there's this thing in musical theater that the higher you sing, the better vocalist you are.

And we have to stop that narrowness.

Yeah.

And it makes me crazy because it's like, well, all these little like meow mixy girls who are like screaming tits, they're like, she's the best voice in the world.

I'm like, she sounds generic as hell.

You sound basic.

You sound like no tits.

A lot.

Mighty mouse.

I don't want to hear that.

Like, where's my give me a Bernadette Peters, give me, like,

give me a legitimate Audrey.

Give me a.

Give me like Carol Channing.

I don't know.

Give me a fucking actor again.

Like, give me somebody who can act the fuck out of something and then be able to sing and then put it in their key.

So that's why when I wrote Titanique, I said, I never want anybody in this business.

I'm looking at you.

Okay.

To come in for me if I ever write another musical again.

I want you to.

I want them to feel as comfortable as possible because I never want that feeling of like, I am so right for this, but I just can't sing it.

What key do you want it in?

I'd be like, hey, you're incredible.

I want you.

So what is going to, what is going to be so comfortable for you eight shows a week, I want you to be able to sing that.

I could cry.

Literally, I was like, and people would be like, I've never been in a room like this before.

And I was like, I know.

I've been there and I've had like full-on crazy panic attacks after being like, I fucked myself and I'll never get seen for this casting director again.

Casting director, yeah.

And they saw the the worst of me because I was too high and I cracked.

And like, then you just go through a spiral and then you hate your instrument.

And you're like, no, no, no, you should love your instrument.

Oh, absolutely.

This is what you were like blessed with.

Yeah.

So like, I don't know.

I want to show you the actual true self of my, of, you know, my voice and my talent.

So like.

having a fucking key and changing it is not a big deal.

No.

I don't think so, honey.

Wait a minute.

That's like round of applause.

I mean, that was really important for everyone to do.

I remember like, like, Henry is so, and like these, these musical directors, they can do it.

They can.

You know what they are.

But it's their ego, too.

They're like, no, it's going to sound better like that.

And they just, then

they fight you.

And I'm like, hey, actually,

to the naked ear.

Yeah.

Sorry, babe.

Yeah.

No one's going to know the difference.

Yeah, no.

If you lower this half a step, no one's going to know because in your voice, in your voice, whatever key is going to be your climactic belt or like the climax of the song is going to sound unbelievable because it's in your context.

context of what they say.

It's in the context of the song and it's in context of your talent and of your gift.

It's like, hello.

Yeah.

No one knows if I'm hitting a fucking A or a D.

Unless they're like those, those people with like perfect pitch that are like that want to tell you about it.

Yeah, the rachels.

I don't mean, I don't need to know.

Yeah, I don't need to know.

Can I say something?

Yeah, I don't need to know.

I don't need to know that you have perfect pitch.

It's actually really culture number 17.

I don't need to know that you have perfect pitch.

That's great.

And that's on period.

And that's on period and culture.

Hey, everyone.

We know many of you probably have a watch list with all the streaming shows you want to see.

Well, if you haven't seen Platonic on Apple TV Plus, you need to add it to yours now.

It's hilarious.

Seth Rogan and Rose Byrne play a pair of platonic besties like Matt and I, who are as likely to cause trouble for each other as they are to support each other.

If you have seen it, you already know that.

But you might not know that season two of Platonic is out now.

This season, Rogan and Byrne deal with uncomfortably hilarious midlife hurdles, including new business ventures, weddings, and partners in crises.

And as best friends do, they try to help each other, but sometimes just to make things worse.

These two are just so funny together.

I love them.

Luke McFarlane and Carla Gallo are so back this season alongside new guest stars, including some seriously funny SNL alums, Adie Bryant, Kyle Mooney, and Beck Bennett, and the fabulous Milo Mannheim.

If you haven't seen season one, catch up immediately.

And if you have, second season of Platonic is now streaming on Apple TV Plus.

Don't miss it.

We're here to tell you about Searchlight Pictures' new film, The Roses.

Perfect Couple, Ivy, played by Olivia Coleman, and Theo Rose, played by Bennett DeCumberbatch, have it all.

Successful careers, a loving marriage, great kids.

But when Theo's career comes crashing down, just as Ivy's fame starts to skyrocket, a tinderbox of fierce competition and growing resentment ignites, threatening to destroy everything they've built if they don't destroy each other first.

All's fair when love is war.

For anyone who's ever been in a relationship, The Roses is a crowd-pleasing comedy.

Starring Benedict Cumberbatch, Olivia Coleman, Andy Samberg, Allison Jani, Belinda Bromalo, Sunita Mani, Shutigatwa, Jamie Dimitrio, Zoe Chow, and Kate McKinnon.

From the director of Meet the Parents, Jay Roach, and the writer of Four Things, Tony McNamara.

Comedy seems to be the genre of the moment.

It's easy to see why everyone could use a good laugh.

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We should ask the question.

Yeah.

Constantine Rosilli, what is the culture that made you say culture is for me?

The formative culture that made you move in a cultural direction?

The formative culture.

Okay.

Give me many answers.

There's, there's, there's many.

Yeah.

I just will always remember, I mean, clearly, TRL.

Oh, I saw Carson Dilley this morning and I'm so gagged.

Like, he just walks around today's show, like, that's what he's doing now.

And I'm like, that's Carson Dilley.

I know.

That was like, for me, I remember coming, rushing home, getting off the bus,

throwing my backpack on the counter, being like, where's a sandwich, ma?

And then.

grabbing like a Diet Coke and sitting my fat ass on the couch with a bag of chips.

Watching.

Oh, I was a fat kid growing up.

Oh, really?

Yeah.

She was a husky mama.

Yeah.

Husky mama.

We shopped at the husky section.

I love.

So you drink a Diet Coke eight chips and like turn on Sarah.

I did it again.

It was number one again.

Yeah.

And then it'd be like learning choreo, putting in the VHS to be like, oh my God, oh my God, the video's going to play.

And then my sister would come in and then she would annoy me.

And I'm like, shut up.

The video's playing.

It's Britney.

Oh, Francis.

She wouldn't take our besties.

I mean,

yeah, same person.

That's sick.

Like, he's number one Britney fan.

Of course.

Like, I'm not going to take that.

You can't even try.

You can't even try.

I mean,

she'll literally blow me up blow you up throw poop at my face oh my god okay so trloon a baboon on the carousel

trl rocks trl was like that let me have it yeah truly let me have it and it like shaped everything i mean i wanted i'm you know highlights and I went to the local CVS and like had this whole hair dyeing fiasco in my bathroom.

Who was the person that inspired that the most?

Was there like a because there was JT doing his like frosted curls.

I think it was I think it was

it was Nick Backstreet Boys.

Nick Carter.

Nick Carter.

Wow.

That was the first concert I ever saw was Backstreet Boys.

Great one.

But they let me have it.

Yeah, they sing.

They were fantastic.

They sing down.

Backstreet Boys.

And choreo.

And choreo.

We'd have to explain something to, because I guess there are younger listeners who don't understand the impact of Backstreet Boys.

Oh, the boy bands.

Like, it was, it was girl.

It was girl bands?

Boy bands.

Yeah.

You guys have no idea what it did to us.

First email I ever sent from a computer in the business center of like some stranger's apartment building that we went to for like a family dinner in Canada was to the official Backstreet Boys fan site account.

Like, hi, I want to say hi to Nick Carter.

I love you.

This is Bowen.

And my first email I ever did.

You sent a little gay email

to Nick Carter.

He really was the one.

He was the one.

And And then as you get older, although Kevin.

Kevin.

Kevin Carter.

Kevin, you can get it now.

Howie, I met backstage at SNL 50.

The sweetest guy.

Oh, I wanted to fuck bad.

Who?

AJ.

Oh, he's bad boy.

AJ?

Could get it.

He's that little beanie in his goatee and his tattoos.

Also, the also that

the vocals on AJ.

Yeah.

He was kind of the sound of that group.

It was not Nick.

It was not Nick.

Nick would float in with his little nasally tenor.

Well, it's like Justin timberlake yeah it's the same thing jammy has the voice voice jc taught me everything i know same kevin was mysterious oh no i'm sorry i need to correct it it was not howie that i met backstage it was aj and aj was so sweet yeah aj is a doll aj's a doll but kevin i think kevin is hot kevin's gorge like stunning stunning like hasn't changed at all right yeah factory boy is trli

ricky martin also

let me have it who i yeah he's Did he do something to his face?

Because she looks unbelievable.

He looks

always been beautiful.

No, I mean, he's a vibe.

The vibe.

He was my vibe.

Live in La Vita.

Fucking Loca.

Fucking Loca.

Punched me in the clown

so hard back in the day.

And I could only go to Coconuts and or Sam Goody, if you remember that.

Sam Goody.

Where we had to, I don't know, go to a place to receive music.

Everybody, you know, Gen A.

Yeah.

Who there you just get it on your phone.

I had to wait and I would be pissed.

I would go to every like CD store to like try and get this album when Ricky Martin came out.

And it could be sold out.

This is sold out.

Yeah, you guys are streaming now where it's like, oh, I can pre-save it.

There's like leaks early.

It's like, no.

No, you had to wait.

This was truly, I remember like needing desperately to get there on the day Oops I Did It It Again came out this album because I was like, it might not be there for a week.

It's gonna be gone to

wait in line.

You had to drive to borders and yeah, the CD wouldn't be there.

You had to go to another, a Sam Goody, a fucking

coconuts.

What's coke?

Is that a Jersey thing?

I think that's a Jersey thing.

Or maybe it's Tri-State.

Do you remember?

I don't remember coconuts.

But I'm the same thing.

It was a CD store.

I love that.

It was crazy.

But yeah, I would be pissed.

And the only thing that I, my scroungy little hands got on was

Ricky Martin's Live in Livy Deluca on cassette.

So I had to then wait.

Okay, then you guys, you had to wait.

When the cassette ended, you had to rewind it.

You had to rewind it.

Reminder, flip it.

Yeah, yeah.

Flip it and reverse it.

It was crazy.

Having to flip it and reverse it.

Wait, and then the other side was like the Spanish side, so I was like, okay, now I'm gonna listen to this in Spanish.

If you think I'm not off book on no me amis by Jennifer Lopez and Mark Anthony, I have news for you.

I'm kind of not, but I was at one point.

Guys, now that's comedy, that's called a reverse.

It's it's no, it's everything.

Also, my favorite Ricky Martin song

is a ballad.

Which one?

She's all I ever had.

That one, you guys, Guys, vocals, it is 12.55 and we are singing down.

I'm not singing.

Y'all are.

But you could be.

I could be.

Yeah.

I got a lube up.

But wait.

She's all I ever had.

That was everything.

Titanique, a jukebox musical for Ricky.

For Ricky.

Would you do a drink box musical again?

Yeah.

No, you would want to write your own.

No, write your own.

I mean, I'm not going to write my own music.

We'll do the book.

That's right.

Yeah, we'll do the book for sure.

I mean, yeah, MGM, Fox, everybody, come to us.

We have Guru.

I mean, just hire us.

Wait, can I ask a question?

How can Titanique be on the West End, but not Broadway?

Good question.

Yeah, but I don't get it.

Tell us.

I don't know.

I think here's the thing.

You know, you,

there's different models.

Sure.

I would say there's different models for every show.

You know, we were this random jukebox musical that came out.

right after pandemic.

So I think our producer was, you know, trying to keep it small in the sense of like, let's build the brand and not go too hard too soon.

Yeah.

You know, and then it started like really picking up speed and momentum.

And I think we had an opportunity in the height of it, like when we, when Marla and I were gonna leave, it was like June of 2023.

I mean, it was like, I looked out in the audience and it was like, you guys again.

And like, that's it.

You guys again again.

And it was like, you know, Marco Robbie and Matt Bomer, who is the hottest person I've ever seen.

Yeah, he listens to the show.

Matt Battle.

Matt, it's

Connie from Titanic.

And we never met backstage because you left and I was pissed.

But you made me so nervous.

And nobody ever does.

So I love you.

He's pretty beautiful.

Yeah, gorgeous.

And then it was like, you know, Lauren.

And then Lauren was there.

I know.

And RuPaul and just like all these people.

And you're like looking out in the audience.

You're like, what the fuck is happening?

Like, this was, we never expected any of that to happen.

So you're sitting there and you're just like, okay.

Maybe this is going to transfer and this is going to go to Broadway.

And

I just, you know, I don't know what happened.

You know, there's never a,

it could possibly happen

again.

I think we were, we were fighting the parody of it all, you know, and people, especially in the business, are like, oh, Snooty, this is Broadway.

We, we don't do parodies.

And I'm like, I know, it's, but it's a new comedy and clearly the world loves it.

And we just won an Olivier, which is like the Tonies of London.

Yeah.

And for, you know, it's bringing theater back.

And I'm like, can we just like have fun again?

And just laugh.

And we don't have to always learn lessons when we go to to the theater

and it doesn't have to be this like highbrow

crazy story about mental illness and pills and how much

yeah exactly so it's I mean that was my Alice Ripley Lauren really good Lauren

Alice Ripley

hello really pertinent now

so I just think there's there's room for everything there's room for everything on Broadway and I and I I wish sometimes the the big wigs of Broadway didn't like look down to a comedy that is just like, oh, this is a dumb comedy.

Meanwhile, comedy is harder than dramas, you guys.

100%.

Meanwhile, O'Mary is like a

surprise finalist.

I mean, look at, I mean, example, Cole, I am so

inspired by them.

That was one of the craziest things and most incredible things I have ever seen in my entire life.

That whole cast, everything.

So it's like, yes, cool, fun, crazy, weird new work

is allowed.

We're allowed to play, and clearly it's working.

The people want it.

Yeah, so yeah, I don't know.

Hopefully, maybe we will one day get there, but I think right now it was just we we kept it as an off-Broadway show, and I think it just sat there.

And I think we were building the brand, and it just was like our little baby that just is waiting in the wings.

It's so cool, you know what I mean?

Like, I feel like it's like there's something about it that felt like you gotta, especially when it's a bunch of people.

It is a cool underground thing, it's so cool.

It was a cool underground thing, yeah.

Like, if you saw it, it will always be a unicorn.

Yeah, like it It was a magical unicorn.

Like the, like, whatever.

Like, this is the, what Catherine O'Hara says in about movies.

It's like, a great movie is great forever.

Like, a great show like that is literally great forever.

And you are, it is literally around the world.

Thank you.

You should be so.

That's so beautiful.

Like, to have an extension of you.

Like, I always, this is the stupidest, dumbest comparison that I'm going to make.

And I'm looking in the camera.

I know how dumb I am.

Okay.

I know.

I don't need you to tell me

that this podcast is popular because I had people telling me how dumb I am.

I know that.

I know for years.

You're the smartest person I know.

What I'm going to say is it's like when you book a pre-show at a theme park

and you perform

hundreds of times a day and you don't even know it.

Like Titanique is every night around the world, sometimes twice a day.

It's making people happy.

You are like writing and performing all the time without even doing that.

And that is such a beautiful thing about art and theme parks.

Thank you.

Honestly, that is the best compliment ever.

I am so like, I was watching, I went to the universal when we were there.

I was there the day before with my sister, and they have the Bourne stuntacular, which is, yes, a Jason Bourne stunt show.

And Julia Styles does the pre-show serving jacket.

And Julia Styles serves this pre-show so hard.

Yeah.

And I'm like, she has to know.

Julia, you have to know.

You're giving it to the girls.

Thousands of times a day, every 20 minutes.

You're up there giving the jacket of a lifetime.

My favorite part of it, and then we don't talk about this anymore, is she's dead in the movie series.

Like, spoiler, like, Julia Styles is fully dead.

She gets blown up.

She gets blown up and like literally lays in the street like this.

Uh-oh.

And then in the pre-show, she goes, Jason believes I'm dead.

And they show her death.

Like,

and I'm like, because you are.

And then canonically, she's alive, though.

I guess now.

So if you were a huge fan of the Julia Styles character in the Born movies, she's alive.

Wow.

She's alive and live.

She lives.

Also, bring back Save the Last Dance.

Can I tell you something?

Yes.

I think that might be our next musical.

Why not?

Okay, I'm coming up with that idea right now.

I'm coming up with that idea right now.

Because you know what they're literally doing?

10 things I hate about you.

I know.

Also, you know what else is going to be good?

And I'm going to throw it out there.

Center stage.

Full parody of center stage.

Really good.

That's niche.

It's a niche market.

Everybody, go watch it.

Go watch it.

Niche is over.

It doesn't matter.

It's everything.

It's everything.

Yeah, it's everything.

It was that shaped me back in the day, too.

Talk about culture.

Okay, so let's go back to this.

TRL,

center stage.

Is always Eldania's sort of entrance into the mainstream.

The mainstream.

Didn't we put it on on Fire Island one year?

We just had it playing in the background where we were like making it.

And like Donna Murphy, like, come on.

I was just talking about this with Christopher Weldon, who is a very good friend, who's, you know.

our girl from MJ,

you know, Ballet Dancer to the Stars.

Come on now.

And we were chatting about it and he was just like, yeah, he worked on that movie.

So he told me all the tea, which we'll talk about after.

Honestly, oh, yeah, that's probably such good stuff.

Unbelievable.

Wow.

Unbelievable.

Zoe Stell Danya's beginning of her career was literally center stage and then crossroads.

And then Crossroads.

Wasn't she pregnant in it?

In Crossroads?

Was she?

Was she the pregnant one or was that Taryn Manning?

Terran.

Terran.

Think about that trio.

Kim Cottrow.

Oh, my God.

Terren Manning

and Zoe Stell Danya and Kim Cottrow as the mom.

That's true.

I mean, that is crazy.

I need the oral history now.

And then Coyote Ugly.

This is like the year of movies oh my god coyote ugly is something i watch whenever it's on it also has one of the hottest sex scenes ever if you watch the extended version

okay wait do you remember that my favorite scene what what's your favorite scene from coyote ugly i'm about to blow your damn mind um is it

wow i don't know what is it nope it's it mine is the sex scene no i'm asking you what your no no mine is the sex scene here when they're it's like His name is Adam Garcia.

He was also a Fiero.

He was in London.

Yes.

This guy is

the hottest.

Look him up right now.

Guy ever.

He was beautiful hair.

He was a beautiful, beautiful, like dark, like black hair.

Honestly, kind of looks like Matt Bomer.

Yes.

But like a little bit more like.

No, he had curly, like those curly.

Didn't he have like the curly locks?

I almost used the word supple.

Supple.

Lock?

Yeah, this one.

I see him.

Everything.

Show the camera.

Show the camera.

Like, get into it.

Hold on, hold on.

I got to see it.

Okay, yeah.

And there was a whole scene where he did the strip tease.

Oh.

This is the best scene.

Body.

Yes.

Yes.

What's the most scary thing?

My favorite scene.

Do you remember when she was- Wait, do you have ever seen it, Henry?

I've never never seen it.

Okay, Bowen.

Sorry, Tyra.

Literally,

jack off.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Go home now.

Sorry, Tyra.

Sorry, Tyra.

Do you remember when

she goes and brings her cassette tape to like the label?

Yes, I do.

And

it's that fierce black woman who's sitting there and she's like on her phone.

And then she gives her the thing.

She goes, hey, I'm so sorry.

Can I just, can I leave this for you?

And she was like, honey, let me tell you something.

My daughter tells me that she's a bisexual and that she hates me more than anybody else in the whole motherfucking world.

Now, let me tell you, how can I make your dreams come true?

Because I am dying to know.

Monologue for the stars.

Oh my God.

Best part of the whole movie.

TikTok.

Let me have it.

I need to find her.

My best, my special daughter.

Unbelievable.

Tells me she hates me more than anyone else in the world.

Yeah.

Now let me tell you.

Now tell me how I can make your dreams come true because I am dying to know.

Where is the Oscar for that?

Isn't that, it was the best.

monologue I have ever seen in a movie.

That's like one of those like doubt style like actress pops pops in.

She needed an Oscar on a doubt.

She needed an Oscar.

It was my, I mean, I still remember it.

That was what, like 25 years ago.

Some things were something wrong

from that era, though.

From this era that we're specifically talking about, like our brains being like truly spongy in a way where it's like, now I can put on movies from that time or movies that I was watching at that time, like Greece.

Off-book on.

Off-book.

Yeah.

Off-book on Clueless, off-book on like Bring It On.

Oh, Oh my God.

You can quote anything from Bring It On.

Truly, anything.

We met Big Red.

I know, I know we said it before.

We did meet Big Red.

We literally Big Red.

Who's also going to meet the team?

The Teenage Red.

Yes, she was.

Yep, that's right.

Lindsay.

She came up and she, we were at Coteli.

We were leaving, I think, Charlie X.

And she came up and this woman comes up and she's so kind.

And she goes, oh my God, I just want to say, I listened to your podcast with my daughter.

She's right over here.

And the daughter's so cute and waves.

And then we're like, Oh my God, thank you so much.

And then she goes, She goes, I played Big Red, and then we bring it on.

And we both freaked.

Does she look the same?

What does she look the same?

She looks though.

So you're like, Girl, we know it's you.

In fact, I think it was a little dark or whatever, but I'm so happy she said that

because the second she did, I literally like you were like, I sizzle, I scorch, and now I pass the torch.

The ballots are in, and one girl has to win.

She's perky, she's fun, and now she's number one

to Torres.

The whole thing.

We've done it on this podcast before in these very TRs.

You are gay as hell.

I have to tell you.

She was so nice.

And then I had this like lovely DM exchange with her after what I realized because I didn't realize in the moment that she was also on Sabrina, which I watched religiously.

Oh, yeah.

I wore that show out as bringing on.

My first

fantasy boyfriend.

You kind of

have the Most handsome boy.

You there, Harve?

Well, you know what happened to Jenna Lee Green?

Nessa.

Nessa Rose.

Nessa Rose.

Also, she was, I think, she understudied Alphaba.

We were very good friends in LA.

Love Jennale Green.

Yes.

Shout out.

She is a talent.

Herbie, Libby.

Libby.

But do you remember when she was in, what was that?

Oh, my God.

I'm having a blank off-Broadway show with John Hill and Michael Arden and Natalie Joy Johnson.

And

this is a great career.

I think that show today.

It was about like the two gay boys in Catholic high school and they fall in love.

Oh my God.

What is it called?

I don't remember it either.

Two gay boys in Catholic high school and fall in love.

I like that as a title.

Wicked.

Wicked.

I like that as a title.

What is this feeling?

I can't remember what it is.

Anyway, but Jenna was in that.

She was leading that.

She actually

vocals down.

Yeah, I will sometimes watch like a

compilation.

I'm sure I'm with the right people to share.

Elephant Alpha Buzz.

Just a compilation of Wicked Witch of the East, which I think is the best.

Shoshana.

Shoshana is the best She is a bad one.

I will say, Jenali Green, I love you.

Gives you a big full belt run for her money.

She does.

Jenna's incredible.

The Wicked Witcher.

I love it.

It's the best.

Why isn't it on the album?

That's why I don't think so, honey.

Slime tutorial is of Wicked Witch of the East.

That is

explored territory that I have not explored.

Wait, what is?

Slime Tutorial?

That's unexplored territory.

Oh, yes.

Does that count as a slime tutorial?

Yeah.

Yeah.

What's slime tutorial?

It's like, it's just like a bootleg

cuts of things, but that's like Chris.

It's like Christmas haunting you.

Oh, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure.

I might be misusing the term.

I like it.

I like it, though.

Let's use it.

Let's use it.

Speaking of slime, this was Nickelodeon culture.

This was also around that time.

TRL Nickelodeon.

This was 1999, 2000.

Yeah, yeah.

This was the Millenniums.

Yeah, this was the time.

What was Sabrina on?

Sabrina was on Nickelodeon.

Nickelodeon?

Or was it Tabricon?

No, no, no.

Was it ABC?

Was it part of TGIF?

It was TGIF.

TGIF went so hard.

Oh, I know.

I couldn't wait.

Because what were we going to do on a Friday?

Let's go to our friend's house.

No.

No way.

Not me.

No.

I would get on the bus on Friday and my mom, who would just walk me to the bus, I would look out the window because I was, this is a weird thing.

I was really afraid of the bus.

I used to have anxiety attacks about getting on the bus and not having anyone to sit with.

So I would get on the bus through middle school and high school.

Not through high school, through elementary school and middle school.

This was the thing.

So I'd get on the bus and look out the window, like terrified, like me, like dying, shaking.

And my mom would go,

to remind me that it was coming on later

it would it would make me feel so much better because i knew that if i just could get through school i could watch tgif oh and boy meets world

boy meets world topanga

that hair those tits can you imagine a woman named topanga yeah literally like get out of here get out i love that i love topanga yeah topanga like who thought that was a good idea

obviously someone genius.

Why can't you get it in Topanga Canyon?

I'm sure they lived in.

Do you think she was named after the canyon in which she was born?

Where else are they pulling that from?

Yeah, where are you pulling that?

Because Topanga was a slut, okay?

From the canyon.

From the canyon.

No, Corey and Topanga.

That was.

They were the first power copies.

Oh, they really were.

And then Dawson's Creek came after.

Oh, my God.

All of it.

And then Buffy and...

Charm.

Were you a Buffy gay?

Oh, my God.

Was I a Buffy gay?

So when Sarah Michelle Geller came to see the show, were you dead?

Oh my God, I'm so, I was so dead.

I mean, and Sarah came like three times.

Oh, really?

It was so nice.

Yeah, Sarah,

Selma, Reese.

Did Ryan come?

Yes, Ryan came out.

He was the best.

Oh, of course.

He was so the most

lovely person.

He came up to me after, and he's like, way to keep the Valmont name alive, man.

And I was like, I'm going to make out with you now.

I'm literally obsessed.

Oh, my God.

She's

so wonderful.

Sarah is so wonderful.

I only hear the best things about Sarah Michelle.

Sarah Michelle Geller also looks exactly the same.

She's having like

a renaissance.

Yeah, she's the best.

I love her so much.

You know what I would like to see?

I would like to see, I know they're doing a new season of Buffy.

I would like to see SMG in the new season of White Lotus.

I feel like Sarah Michelle Geller

would tear up some

because people forget how dramatically good she is.

Oh, I feel like people don't remember that she was giving you versatility.

I'm sorry, Cruel Intention, she was like, what?

21?

Iconic.

The best performance I have, still to this day, one of the best best performances I have ever seen on film.

All three of them.

When they fight her Coke vial at the end, and just a single tear comes down her face because she knows they have fucked her up.

Yeah.

She

is a new season about you or new movies.

I think it's a new.

I think they're rebooting it as a show, right?

I thought it was I know what you did last summer.

Same thing.

Same thing.

I still know what you did last year.

Do you remember the thrillers?

Like when we were

those scary movies and screams.

Yes, Jen Katen Robinson is Jennifer.

Jen Kayt Robinson.

Did I still know?

She did someone great, etc.

Those were guys, we lived in great times.

Dead, you know,

Napster.

God, remember Kaza?

Kaza.

Lime.

Did you remember Rhapsody?

Of course I had all of them.

They would all go.

I would completely fuck up my mother's computer every five minutes.

We'd have to take it to Toshiba and she'd be like, you crashed the computer again, Khan.

And I was like, sorry, girl, I had to download that song.

That took 48 hours.

Wow.

Are you deeply connected to your Greek roots?

1,000%.

Yes.

I am the Greekest person ever.

Yeah, because I don't have like Greek culture in my life, but I feel like you do.

Here you go.

I'm right in front of you.

There you are.

She is, I am the epitome of my big fat Greek wedding.

Yeah.

There are, there are,

I am Joey Fatone.

No, I'm Nia Verdalos.

You're Nia.

Oh.

There are columns in front of my house.

Yes.

Till this day.

Greek columns.

Yep.

There was plastic on the furniture my entire fucking life.

I love that.

In that room that nobody can go in.

Plastic on the remote?

No.

No, but that's crazy.

But that's an Asian thing, maybe.

Okay.

Cool, cool, cool, cool, cool.

Germs?

Because germs.

Germs.

Yeah, yeah.

There's more germs on the plastic to keep you going.

No, we would, we still to this day, there's a baby lamb for Easter that's on a spit roasted outside of my fucking house in the backyard.

Beautiful.

And people are like, what is that smell?

And I'm like, it's just a lamb.

The baby lamb.

The baby lamb.

And my mom's just like making stew from like the insides of the lamb.

And I'm like, girl, are you okay?

Like, what is happening?

We are this Greek.

I mean, it's sick.

My sister sister lives behind my parents' house.

That's because you're amazing.

And also.

Oh, wait, what's her name?

What's her name?

Renee Rene Renee.

Ren.

Oh, that's right.

Yeah.

Okay.

And also, I cut you off.

What?

Oh, no.

Also, just that.

I'm so Greek.

Like, I went to Greek school every year.

Were you Greek Orthodox?

Greek Orthodox.

Me too.

Holler.

So I only, it was the first eight years of my life.

I've told you this.

We were Greek Orthodox and we moved to a different town and we switched to Roman Catholicism because my dad goes, it's basically the same.

And it's, it was the Greek part of that's all in Greek.

It's all in Greek.

So I couldn't understand.

And it's three hours long.

You want to go to church for three hours every Sunday?

I don't think so, honey.

That was crazy.

Crazy.

I would have to sit down and be like, yeah, dozing off.

And my mom's like, pay attention.

I'm like, to what?

I can't even understand.

I remember because it was all in Greek, I didn't understand it.

And then they were like basically the same.

We became Roman Catholic.

And then I could hear what they were saying.

And I'm like, oh, fuck this.

Well, this sucks.

Well, because also, like, there's something beautiful about going to a Greek church.

It's like stunning, like Byzantine Byzantine art, like things and art.

I live next to one.

I mean, it's stunning.

It's beautiful.

That's the church next to me.

Oh, that's a Greek Orthodox church.

Yeah.

And then my parents, speaking of when you transferred to Catholicism,

my parents, when we were going to high school, we had no high school in our town.

You would have to like go private or go somewhere else.

And so they were like, we're going to put you in Catholic school.

And I was like, wait, what?

I was like, but I'm not Catholic.

They're like, same thing.

Same thing.

So then me, like, having to go to Mass every whatever, Friday.

Yeah, you got it.

And then I was like, okay.

And then I got bamboozled into singing in the choir.

And then everybody calls me the gay singing kid.

They're like, hey, gay singing kid, great job on our God is an awesome God.

And I'm like, cool.

Don't even know that song.

And I'm sitting here, like singing like McDonald's fucking songs.

That's what it felt like because I was like, I grew up in the Greek church, which was like all like Byzantine ancient Greek hymns.

Sure.

The best one.

What?

Did you ever sing Hosanna in the highest?

Of course.

Hosanna in the highest.

It's actually kind of cunty.

Yeah.

Blessed is he who comes from the name of the Lord.

No, it's actually, they need to put it in a pop song.

I think Lord should do it.

Lord, Lord, I think they should do it.

With a mashup with Charlie X.

It should be on their album, Virgin.

Yes, absolutely.

Did you ever remember Sweet Redeemer?

That song was a banger.

Give it to us.

I don't go.

Sweet Redeemer, I surrender all I am to you.

Yeah.

It was

wild.

But yeah, I used to sing it.

And then I used to get in trouble by the priest because my

mentor in high school, two guys, Frank and Ed, who I fucking love still to this day, they would always make me just go off American Idol style.

And I was like, okay.

And then the priest would be like, listen, son, this is an American Idol.

Stop singing like that.

This is church.

And I was like, okay.

I was like, I'm not even Catholic.

I'm not like an extended belt.

Oh,

I used to hold, I would hold things out.

People would be like, yo, gay singing kid, that was so fierce today.

And I'm like, thanks, man.

That was so fierce.

And I was like, well, I'm actually not gay.

And they're like, haha, sure.

Sure.

But yeah, I would just like go off at Mass because I was like, I'm not Catholic.

What is this?

This is like fun, crazy music.

We're all just goofing off.

We're goofing off at church.

But don't you love that you have this sort of pop star narrative of he got to start singing in the church choir.

She sang in the church choir.

I sure did.

I mean, I sang in the church choir in Greek church, too.

So like, but that was like, you know, hymns and shit.

So that was.

of

speaking of all these movies that remember every line, remember Sister Act 2, where there's that

iconic scene where Lauren Hill and her friend are singing, I sing

because I'm happy.

And I sing because

so then at the end, they're singing and the one girl goes to the Lauren Hill goes to the one girl, girl, you could really make it.

And she goes,

This is for church.

When she was like, she was like,

or you clearly know that she has a better voice than Lauren Hill.

Sorry.

She literally sang.

And then she was like, girl, she's like, I just can't, I can't get that.

You have it.

I can't get that low note.

And she's like, no, no, no, no, no, no.

This is for sure.

This is for sure.

Yeah, you could really make it.

You could really make it.

That movie is so

special.

Rita Marie Watkins.

Get your behind upstairs.

Get your nose out of the brows.

And your head in the clouds.

Aren't they making the third one?

What's the third one?

Okay, so we need to sit Whoopie down in that chair, actually.

Yeah, yeah, Whoopee needs to get here now?

First of all, why hasn't that happened?

You guys need to get that immediately.

I bet we can.

In fact, I know we can.

By the way, Whoopee tore up the Matt Gala.

Yeah, she looks like a family.

Did you see that?

Can we talk about the fashions?

Yes, let's talk about the fashions.

Let's go because, you know, it's current.

Highlights.

Highlights.

Who let me have it?

Tiana.

Tiana.

Yes.

Tiana Taylor.

Tiana Taylor.

It was

the best way.

Janelle Monet everything.

Everything, always, period.

Always.

Bad bunny.

Looking like the scarecrow from the whiz, and I was so here for it.

Yeah, absolutely.

With With a Michael Jackson glove, I was like, bitch, go off.

What did you feel about Zendaya and Anna Sawai being in the same look?

Was it the same?

It was exactly.

Exactly.

I don't know.

I thought it was different.

I thought it was different takes on the same.

Okay, yeah, but we'll have to go to the next one.

I mean, you look at it side by side.

I will.

She can wear anything.

I mean, Zendaya's the most stunning human in the world.

But it reminded me of like, you know, old Celine.

Was it

look?

With the backwards suit, oh my god.

Which was iconic, but I'm like, okay, we've seen it.

Let's maybe do something else.

Sure, sure, sure.

Um, Rihanna announcing baby number three, Rihanna, baby number three.

Fucking pregnant.

I'm like sex at zero fucks.

I said R9, more like R3.

Oh, Rihanna third bird.

Also, is that album actually going to happen?

I don't think so.

I hate that.

I hate that.

I hate hearing it.

I just don't.

What the streets are saying is that she really just likes to smoke weed and watch housewives and do the and do the fashion thing.

That's what the streets are.

I mean, we're here for that, but also I just need one more.

Just give me one more.

Of course.

One more.

Anti is pretty, pretty cool.

Here's the thing.

I don't think it's that she doesn't want to.

I just think she feels she set a really high fucking bar with anti.

I also think she genuinely enjoys these other aspects of her life.

And if it's coming, it is on her time, which is, as we know, late.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The way she rolled up, she made everyone on that carpet wait 45 minutes after the last person to make take her fucking picture.

Unreal.

Good.

Good.

Unreal.

Do we like Dualipa's look?

Yes.

I did like Dualipa's look.

I liked Coleman, obviously.

Coleman can do no wrong.

Amazing.

Coleman can do no wrong.

Also, shout out Hunter Schaefer.

Yeah.

Crushed.

Oh, my God.

But always.

Just a section.

And who else?

Lorde looked amazing, too.

Lord looks amazing.

Lord is like really, I think, making like an announcement about their gender.

Yes.

I feel like it's saying they feel like a man and a woman.

And a woman.

Yeah.

But not, but not, but not like dropping the pronouns just yet.

Right.

Yeah.

I love the new song.

It's great.

It grew on me.

It's great.

Like the first time I heard it, I was like, oh, come on.

And then like the second or third time I heard it, I was like, what was that?

I love it.

Miss it.

I missed that crazy voice.

Me too.

I missed that crazy voice.

I saw Charlie again at Barclays.

Was it amazing?

Yes.

And Full Rain on stage.

I was dead.

I think it's my third time in a month seeing her because both times at Coachella.

And then this and I saw sweat.

When the girl's so confusing, Lord Verse comes on, it's like Hosanna in the highest.

Oh, I'm sure.

No, no, it is.

It's like Sweet Red Redeemer.

It's Sweet Redeemer.

Wow.

It's

awesome.

By the time she gets to

say, we still have the same hair.

By the time that part is going, you're just like, you're jumping.

Oh, yeah, you're a full cardiac arrest.

Yes, it's so good.

And guess, guess can let me tell you something about guess and i told you this guess people thought and this is no disrespect to rain on me by ariana grande and and lady gaga that is a classic

people thought that that was like the female duet of our time to rival enough is enough no more tears no more tears yeah donna summer barber streisan it's guess guess is so

powerful

yeah there's room for everything i'm just saying the feeling that you get during guess yeah there's nothing like that also i don't know if i told you this maybe i've told you this before on my you know world traveling extravaganzas we went to the boiler room set in a biza

i was there with armanas with armanas with armanas we were there's boiler room set we were there i lost my mind yeah i thought you guys

i was so high yeah it was so crazy i made that

gorgeous hot man from a biza and i was like cool i'll never see you again but also let's make out for you i love to do that all around the world oh same just grab a man come over here get over here you yeah it was wild wow crazy that's like a historic it's a historic moment people are like i still listen to that and i'm like i was there you're there oh i can't believe it i still can't believe it thanks i mean that was all gus gus made it happen yeah thank god to our girl our baby girl baby bride baby bride baby bride no he's not married but i just that's what

it's like breaking news breaking news she's married breaking gay news on a gay podcast.

Yes.

Right here.

Just Kenworthy, a baby bride.

More information than the news.

Yeah, you're slaying the transitions into the news.

You know what they did tell me on today?

They were like, you're so good at transitions.

And I was like, it's actually, we're used to doing it.

We're used to doing it.

They didn't tell me that.

Well, that's because they feel they don't need to because you know what all the hearing all the time.

I was, I did slay.

Are you doing Prompter Wars, by the way?

I asked to do Prompter Wars and I don't think we're we're doing it.

Because Tina just did it.

But I'm going to ask again.

You need to do it.

I need to.

I want to do it.

The teleprompter is so.

They do like tongue twisters on the teleprompter and they go really, really fast.

You're supposed to like, it's like a battle with like Jenna and like whoever else.

Well, my dyslexia would really kick in hard.

Okay.

I'd be like,

yeah, what, though?

Who's to say that's not what's on the board?

So what do kids have fun?

Let them.

Let them.

Let them.

BFGW, Big Fat Greek.

Wedding.

Wedding.

BFGW.

One of the great movies.

One of the great movies.

Still, I think a comedy breakthrough moment for me was Andrew Martin talking about the lump on her neck.

Yes.

That is one of the funniest things in movie history.

There was a

spinal cord and teeth.

I got a

baby.

Inside the lump was my twin.

Was my twin.

Full set of teeth.

Yeah.

Was my twin.

Like, this is

joking.

Andrew Martin is so forever.

It's not even funny.

I was watching that movie.

It's so good.

It's good every single time.

I remember I went with my Greek grandmother.

Who's Greek on your mom's side or dad's side?

So, this is the controversy.

Oh, yeah.

No one knows.

No, no, no.

But have you heard this?

So I live my entire life thinking like almost 50% Greek.

Like, that's kind of what the vibe is.

Like, my mother's side of the family, like, there's a lot of Greek there.

In fact, we had even seen the movie.

And my Nana, who's now passed, she was like, this is my culture.

I'm so happy they made a movie about this.

And it was just a huge success, success, like, et cetera.

So then I think like two years ago, I do the 23 in me.

Spit in the tube, send it in, comes back.

0.0% Greek,

almost 40% Turkish.

But it's giving men a screen.

It's giving right next door.

It's giving right next door.

It's giving, let's just call it a culture clash.

Grandma grew up in Greece.

And my mother's maiden name is Claritas.

Yeah.

So it's like they're

in the diet, they're

right, yeah,

but the Drew Barrymore hit show,

love you, Drew, I do love a Drew, you do, but yeah, no, that was so that was like, I was gonna like, thank God that she passed before she would have had a heart attack, but I don't think she would have loved the news, wouldn't have loved it, no, she is Greek, you are Greek, though, like that, you come from Greece, the you, yeah, I mean, it's you're there, it's fine, but then so then I looked at a picture of like a Turkish person, I like Googled like Turkish man, and everything came

was like, it was kind of like, I got it.

I was like, yeah, I think I am

a little bit disgree.

Yeah.

You know what I'm saying?

I mean, it's so, they're so close.

It is what it is.

Like my father's village where he grew up is like this tiny little place called Kasturja, which is right next to, you know, Albania and Turkey and everything.

So it's like, do you speak it?

Yeah.

Oh, fluently.

Love.

L-O-L.

Yeah, that was the best part.

Part, a great part now, knowing that you're like, okay, cool.

We're past like Greek school and like total shit that I had to go through my whole life.

Every Sunday?

No, no, no.

Every Tuesday and Thursday

for three hours after American school.

No.

Yeah.

Talk about then you having to study for American school, do your homework, and then do Greek homework.

You can't watch CRL.

I had to tape it.

You had to tape it.

Tape it.

Oh, we had to, we had to press record on a VCR for that.

Anyway.

No, manually, I had to press it.

Oh, wow.

DHS.

Actually, this us talking about this makes me realize I do know my own thing.

So, honey.

Great.

Okay.

I think it's time.

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I think it's time for I don't think so, honey.

And this is going to be a throwback.

It actually is applicable to all times.

By the way, I don't think so, honey is our 60 seconds like where we take a minute.

To rant, rail, and more against something and culture that deserves it.

And I have that thing.

Okay, this is Matt Rogers' I don't think so, honey, and his time starts now.

I don't think so, honey, people who fast forward and cannot start it on time and like and when it comes back from commercial, you've had

years now to understand the timing on this.

And it happened back in the day, and it's years and years and years.

Cause I'm saying it's not just the DVR, it's also rewind culture from VCR culture.

You know, you hit the button to resume a little before.

I hate going back, going forth, going back, going forth.

I hate it.

You know, when it's over, I guess you wouldn't know because you have to guess.

But like, we develop your instincts, develop your internal clock, and then, like, just get it right.

Like, I hate this about

fast forwarding through things.

I would rather watch a commercial.

Sorry.

Fuck you.

I don't think so, honey.

That's one minute.

This is Bo and Yang's.

I don't think so, honey, his time starts now.

I don't think so, honey.

What are the lotions of the world doing to help us in any situation?

Like,

why can't we have lotions that just work?

I'm putting hand cream on and I still have cracked palms.

I'm putting lip balm on.

I still have cracked lips.

There's nothing.

There's...

My body is a sponge and there's nothing in the world that can actually hydrate me to its fullest potential.

I think this is something that is, that is accelerating my age.

I think this is something that I 30 seconds.

I can't stay on top of and then it will eventually,

it will show in my hands.

There are people out there you know, you know the stars out there who are aging from their hands first.

And I think, I think I will be one of those people.

He'll be one of those stars.

I will be one of those stars.

You know who I'm talking about.

You know who I'm talking about.

Don't you know who I'm talking about?

Not really.

Aging from their hands first.

Marla Mendolla.

Marla.

I don't have five seconds.

Sorry, Marla.

That's actually great company, B.

And I would, if I get any closer to being like Marla Mandel, then you know what?

Bucklow,

you never help me anyway.

That's what I'm gonna do.

Wait, am I the only person who's like, what's the point?

Let me see your gorgeous soft hands.

Yeah, first of all, are you fucking called me?

Look at this.

Look at how beautiful his hands are.

You got mine.

I have little baby hands, like T-Rex hands.

Gorgeous hands.

Look how small these are.

Smaller hands than you.

You're cheating.

My hands.

Do I have the biggest hands here?

You have huge hands.

That means you got a big toes.

He goes, you have huge hands.

What does that mean?

Big show off.

Big show off.

Ones and toes.

That's what I said about the Greeks.

Show it now.

You know what I mean?

Like, what's the point?

I'm saying, what's I just, I put on motion today.

I'm still dry.

Yeah.

Talking about.

Look at that.

Bowen.

No, you have a gorgeous.

Bowen no.

You're luminous.

I just, I, I can't, I don't know what

humidity means in terms of like how it affects my body at this point.

I, I, I feel like I do think sometimes, like, with hand cream and stuff, it's like, I wonder if it's a little bit of like

once you start using it, you need it right.

And that to me makes it feel like a scam.

Like, sometimes I've been using skincare.

It's like shitty lip lips.

Like shit, shitty lips.

People will compliment me on my skin and I'll be like, oh, I haven't used anything in weeks and months.

And then I'll like break out or I'll have skin purging because I've been using like the best products.

I don't do anything but put my face under hot water.

Are you burning?

Is that true?

Hot water?

Yeah.

No.

I don't do anything but burn off my face.

Burn off my face.

No, I have cold water.

I've, no, in the shower.

I literally have, I mean, I have a like a

washer, a washer.

Beautiful skin.

Well, because we're Greek, we have oily skin.

Yeah.

Olive skin tones.

Yeah, I am like a motherfucker.

Like a motherfucker.

That's nice.

But I can get pasty as hell during the winter.

Everyone's like, you okay?

You sick?

The answer is no.

And I'm like, yes, I am.

I have like ganger in a space like October through December.

Yeah, green.

Yeah.

That's disgusting.

No, that's not that.

But yeah, but then like I get, you know, go in that sun and boom.

But then what?

Because if you go in the sun too much, that's when.

Yeah, but that's when we're going to get the Lindsey Lohan.

I know.

I can't wait.

Who do we have to?

We have to find out all this information.

So if anybody has information about that, you're just about to say who do we have to fuck to get the fucking face.

Who do we have to fuck to get the Lindsey Lohan face?

Jesus Christ.

I'm getting up there and I want to be revealed.

I don't think you.

If you out there know who we have to fuck to get the Lindsay Lohan face, dial in 1-866-663.

Idols 03.

Honey, I don't think you.

Idols 03.

I think you, I think you, like, get into the, get into the daddy identity.

Okay, we're going to get it.

You, I think, out of anybody that I know has had the best twink to twink death to daddyhood.

Honestly, I'll take it.

Do you remember your twink death?

Yeah.

It was.

It's like a little trauma.

Yeah.

I do.

People are posting the twink death photos.

The The Twink Death was.

I want to do that.

I want to say,

when was that?

Like, right, there's a picture of a hairspray on Broadway after, like, after we closed.

And then I did legally bond.

And then something happened.

I moved to LA.

And

the Twink death was really horrible.

It was butyrating.

And I was like, bye, girl.

But like, it was wild.

The twink death is the return to Saturn.

Yeah.

It's actually, it's rural culture number 17.

Yes.

The twinkle.

Twink death is the return to Saturn.

They coincide.

Because I remember mine was also when I moved to LA 27, 28.

I got to LA and was trying to like do that thing, that twinky thing of like, I tuck my ringer t-shirt into my jeans and all of a sudden it was like, oh, that's not looking like it used to.

Like, and then you're like, it's cuz you're not a twink anymore.

Yeah.

It's okay.

It's okay.

We all have to like a fine wine.

Yeah.

Like a fine wine.

Fine wine.

All right.

So listen.

This is speaking of fine wine.

We're about to have a fine.

I don't think so, honey.

From Connie.

Oh my God.

I'm nervous.

Don't be.

Don't be going.

I'm made for this.

I am made for this.

Have you ever done this?

Have you done a lot?

We didn't know you back when we did live shows.

No.

No.

This would have been one for the books.

Okay.

Live.

Yeah.

No.

That was honestly, maybe we should bring it back.

It's like a special big thing.

It'd be very fun.

Maybe that's our Radio City show.

Oh, yeah, you guys, 1,000%.

We don't have it booked anymore, but David.

Okay, so you want to know the tea?

We had Radio City Music Hall booked for the culture awards, but because we're doing it on Teacock, it's just like too like

it would have been too much money too many cooks in the kitchen i get it so we're doing it in la at the orpheum but we literally had a date for it would have been next month we were doing it at radio city music hall and now i'm thinking let's do i don't think so honey at radio city with 50 people i would love that oh my god that would and there's another they can all fit on stage

oh my god They can all fit on stage.

That stage is huge.

It's a humongous stage.

And also, it's Radio City.

It's the most iconic place in the world.

Well, you know, Giggly Squad sold it out twice.

And I'm like, okay, so it's possible for for two girls that have a podcast to do that.

That's true.

And

we're almost that.

Yeah.

You guys are two fantastic girls.

Hey, thanks.

Wait a minute.

We have one fantastic girl before us.

He's about to do it.

I know he's a girl.

Fantastic girl stands before me.

I only have one phone in my hands.

We have Ma from Hermanas.

We have Octavia Spencer.

You have Octavia Spencer in Ma.

The best film of all time.

Best film of all time.

Great Fire Island movie.

Honestly, put it on a podcast.

I'm going to put it on.

Put it on the summer.

I'm going to put it on.

When are you going?

I don't know.

We have to figure it out.

August.

Should we all go together?

So, August?

Anybody want to give us something?

Oh, wait, do we have something for August?

We have.

We gave it up because we're going to P-Town for a carnival.

Wait, we gave it up?

Because it's the same week as the P-Town house.

What about July?

Maybe I'll go to P-Town.

I have to just...

Let's just...

Well, we'll

need to.

Yeah, we'll talk about it.

We have to be there together.

We have to.

It's a must.

That would be so fun.

It'd be very fun.

Oh, my God.

I don't think so.

I think so, honey.

I can't wait for that.

Oh, Jesus.

Okay.

This is Constantine Rizzuli's.

I don't think so, honey.

Now, okay, you know what?

I don't think so, honey.

Being private on Instagram.

Okay.

We're going to talk about this right now because if I see you DM me and then I click on your fucking picture and that tiny little fucking picture and there's nothing to go to and you have 800 followers, what are you?

A Quaker?

You can't just be out in public?

Then why are you on Instagram?

I need you to share your life, share everything.

Sorry, I'm keeping it for my close friends and family.

What?

The 200 people that you know?

Why don't you fucking text them?

I want to scan your pictures.

I want to creep on you.

I want to see exactly who you are.

I want to hear your voice.

I want to get the fucking tea.

Because if we're going to bone, I want to see if you're man enough.

Yes.

It wasn't man enough for me.

Also, best song I've ever heard.

Yeah,

mix.

I don't know the best mix in the world.

15 seconds, but like seriously, I and then I click on another picture and then it's like this gorgeous group of people and you fucking private and we're never going to to meet because you're never going to see my DM or my or the message.

So it's a lost cause.

Okay.

So you can choke, get that shit off private and fucking DM me.

Thank you so much.

And that's one minute.

You're so right.

Yeah.

Right.

I don't know.

I don't know how people expect something to get going when it's like, all I can do is click your little picture.

I don't click that picture.

And it doesn't even also, when it's private, another, I don't think so.

It doesn't expand.

No.

It doesn't expand.

You don't see the.

So.

And I'm not giving you the follow right away.

No, no, no.

I gotta see.

I gotta see what I'm talking about.

I gotta do the creep of like, I'm gonna like two pictures and then you're gonna see it because you're gonna scan.

You're gonna make me be the pick-me when you're the pick-mind.

Exactly.

No way.

No way.

First of all, just beware of the pick-me's because even if they seem cool, that's what they are.

Yeah, they always, yeah, they think they're so cool.

I'm like, you're not cool.

I just

because you're a private.

Yeah, no.

Shut up.

Well, and also, here's the thing.

If you want, whatever.

If you want to be private, fine.

You're being, I don't think somebody, but whatever.

There's also this.

And a lot of gays that I truly respect these girls, they'll have a private profile but then pretty much all of their stories will be close friends right right so do that have like your little whatever like it can be nothing right but then just like engage with because you can also do grid close friends you can do grid close friends exactly but all keep all the the grid posts close friends if you don't want anyone to see anything literally but private is i mean in this context then don't then don't be on instagram

then don't be just or just don't be flirting don't be suggestive in the dms with a private exactly how very dare you.

How very dare you.

This is not quite the same.

That is very, this is all very justified.

My original I Don't Thinks of Honey before I blanked on it and went to lotions because I saw a bottle of lotion right there.

Oh my god, that Evino gave you the idea.

That Avino gave me the idea because I'm stroking.

But my original I don't think so honey was if you're on a dating app and you have a LinkedIn.

Deep private that.

Because I got to see what you do and where you went to school.

Cause it's fun.

It's good information.

I'm not going to judge you.

What sucks about LinkedIn, which I learned the the hard way, people can see when you go look.

No, but you don't log in.

No, you log off your LinkedIn, open a private browser, go to their LinkedIn.

And if it blocks you, if you have to log in, then you go, well, I'm not going that far.

I'm not going to like have them see that I viewed their profile.

But I just want to hate that.

You know what I mean?

Why can't I just like?

I like to do a little stalking.

Yeah, I like to creep in like a creepy crawler, as we like to call it.

Online creepy crawly.

And I love that.

When you get like fucking busted on by like oh okay I'm sorry

Wow, I don't mind that I would love a busted on I say that with Dennis Bush Hager tomorrow.

You know when you get busted on she's like hey

well I could bust all over this episode.

I love you guys

so much.

We love you and adore you.

Day one love you day does that make sense.

Day five day five day five hate day six love again day six name day seven someone who cares someone who cares

this has been fabulous

You're the best.

Listen, June 3rd, he goes back in.

June 15th, they all go out.

Unless you make this undeniable, it must continue.

You could

not see a better show.

And the good news for you, if you are international, is Trump's not your president.

And also, you can probably see Titanique.

Paris, London, Australia.

We're in Australia, Sydney?

Sydney.

Great town.

And

we're going to Brazil in October.

Wow.

Wait, wow.

Ah!

Like, I didn't even go to the bottom.

2.5 million.

Yeah, 2.5 million.

I would love to see that.

We're going to be in Sao Paulo, and then we're going to take a trip to Rio.

So just maybe come.

You guys are actually when?

When, when, when?

October something.

Early October.

Okay, no.

I know.

There's like

gay shit to talk about.

A lot of gay shit to talk about.

A Celine song came on on my way here.

I can't believe I didn't even tell you.

I think it should be this on the missing.

Okay, let's go.

I surrender.

I surrender everything

to give a chance to live again.

I reach to you.

I know you can feel it too.

Make it through.

A thousand dreams I still believe.

I pray you give them all to me.

I hold you in my arms and never let go.

I surrender.

Wow.

To hear that song, go to Titanique.

Closing June 15th.

Maybe.

Bye.

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