"Ambition" (w/ Reese Witherspoon)
It's a moment in Las Cultch history as Reese Witherspoon makes her debut! The Morning Show is back! Reese chats with Matt & Bowen about studying Goldie Hawn in Private Benjamin for Legally Blonde, creating Tracy Flick and Election in retrospect, owning your ambition, producing Gone Girl and Wild, exploring the inner workings of female friendships on Big Little Lies and the importance of a good set-piece. Also, The Morning Show forecasting Blue Origin, how Bradley Jackson got her name, aura ring culture, producing with Hello Sunshine, Jon Bon Jovi's thigh high red leather boots, Gwen Stefani's "Just A Girl", joy as revenge in The First Wives Club and Matt, Bow and Reese's Blockbuster strategy. All this, managing anxiety alongside an ambitious personality, the "Oscar Curse", Reese's Nicole Kidman impression and Big Little Lies season 3. The Morning Show is streaming NOW on Apple TV+!!! Go!!!
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Speaker 49 Ford.
Speaker 69 Look, Mayor.
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Oh, I see. My IOI.
Oh, and look over there.
Speaker 46 Wow, is that culture? Yes.
Speaker 70 Goodness. Wow.
Speaker 69 Las Culturistas. Cultoristas.
Speaker 46 Ting Tong.
Speaker 71 Las Culturistas calling.
Speaker 72 I don't know that I've been more excited.
Speaker 74 And this is the thing.
Speaker 76 We're already getting along, I'd say, gangbusters with our guests.
Speaker 77 Love.
Speaker 21 I can't believe she's here either.
Speaker 79 It's like staring at the sun. I can't, it's hello, sunshine.
Speaker 21 I can't look at the guest.
Speaker 81 I want to say hello, sunshine is their frontrunner for title of that, but we can't do that.
Speaker 84 No, no.
Speaker 84 We're going to find it.
Speaker 72 Do you remember yesterday when we were talking about iconic line reads of our guest?
Speaker 87 Yes, but that's every day.
Speaker 88 On most days.
Speaker 85 So on the red carpet at the Culture Awards, someone asked us, like, what's an iconic line from cinema history that like jumps out right now?
Speaker 82 Who is it?
Speaker 93 Was it Mark Malkin that asked that?
Speaker 79 No, it was Vulture.
Speaker 81 It was Vulture.
Speaker 69 And I go, what?
Speaker 94 Like, it's hard.
Speaker 96 But and yesterday I said to you, this is what pings and pongs in my brain.
Speaker 35 First, anytime I open mail.
Speaker 4 Anytime I open mail. This is what.
Speaker 11 Are you ready? This is it.
Speaker 99 Bruiser, what's this? Bruiser, what's this?
Speaker 46 Bruiser, what's this?
Speaker 101 But anytime I open an envelope, I'm telling you.
Speaker 102 The reason I bring it up is because I actually know what it is.
Speaker 11 Okay.
Speaker 104 This was maybe the culture that made me say culture was for me, which is a big statement on this podcast, that being the central question.
Speaker 11 Pleasant, Phil.
Speaker 33 Oh.
Speaker 106 Our guest's first scene.
Speaker 107 She's on the phone talking to her friend, and she's talking about what outfit she's going to wear for a date.
Speaker 83 And she's discussing wearing one particular thing.
Speaker 108 And she goes, it's not slutty.
Speaker 81 And she looks in the mirror and she goes, it's fun.
Speaker 110 And I saw myself.
Speaker 109 You just channeled.
Speaker 111 You just channeled the muse.
Speaker 71 I channel constantly. I'm always channeling our guests constantly.
Speaker 112 It's true.
Speaker 113 Our favorite show is back.
Speaker 79
Our favorite show is back. Thank the Lord.
We got the screeners.
Speaker 97 We watched episode one. And then Matt Rogers steps away and goes, how many?
Speaker 74 How many did they send?
Speaker 104 I just asked off air.
Speaker 114 I said the whole season.
Speaker 75 I've never seen you happier.
Speaker 46 I think I did a backflip.
Speaker 102 I think I did a Tom Daly off a surfboard.
Speaker 75 Gymnastically moved the furniture in the hotel room that we were staying.
Speaker 116 That is a thing I do when I get nervous.
Speaker 74 I move furniture.
Speaker 117 I move furniture.
Speaker 118 I was interior designing the
Speaker 94 hotel. The hotel.
Speaker 75 Morning Show season four is now out.
Speaker 3 Now that this episode is out, September 17th, the same day as the new incredible season of the morning show.
Speaker 121 It's giving everything you've wanted it to give.
Speaker 91 And I have so many questions for our guests guests about the rip from the headlines nature of it because they can't possibly have guessed some one thing that happened in season three that then happened in life.
Speaker 43 But suffice it to say that our guest today is an Oscar-winning actress, an Emmy-winning producer, a bona fide pop culture icon on the list of the iconic 400 twice as herself and as a character.
Speaker 95 Yes, which that doesn't really happen.
Speaker 102 No.
Speaker 124 This is such a great moment in Lost Culture History because our guest is
Speaker 46 Rhys Withersmo.
Speaker 46 Oh, my God.
Speaker 46 We love you. Blushing.
Speaker 69 That was so nice.
Speaker 106 I'm so excited to be here.
Speaker 129 I'm so happy to be here.
Speaker 111 Oh, wait. No, this is.
Speaker 76 So this was the moment where the wheels started turning about this moment happening.
Speaker 75 Yes.
Speaker 97 Just two Emmys ago or one Emmy ago.
Speaker 131 I think that I like beelined for you in an award show.
Speaker 1 And I was like, Bowen, when am I on your podcast?
Speaker 69
Like, how did you even do it without me? Yeah. Exactly.
But
Speaker 79 the way you approached me, do you remember what your initial line was?
Speaker 79 It was the most Reese thing.
Speaker 76 And I immediately texted this one afterwards.
Speaker 78 We go in for a hug.
Speaker 3 You whisper in my ear, well, hello, Miss Culturista.
Speaker 133 I died.
Speaker 134 Because that was too much.
Speaker 81 That was the moment I knew the podcast had gotten out of time.
Speaker 48 That's when we fell in love.
Speaker 135 That's when we fell in love.
Speaker 46
He did. I think you FaceTimed me.
You were like, oh, you're not.
Speaker 74 The phone is shaking.
Speaker 46 I'm like, who is it?
Speaker 95 I was like, don't tell me it was Reese.
Speaker 46 no like i it was like you had a party and you didn't invite me you're so it was so rude
Speaker 136 so happy it only took like 14 publicists later and we're here
Speaker 1 two short years two short years later and 1800 emails
Speaker 46 that that does it really does feel like they really slow the wheels of progress well
Speaker 69 people yeah i know
Speaker 100 because you did because the the biggest gag was you were like dm me and i was like i guess you could just dm her you can
Speaker 33 Well,
Speaker 46 you can, but you can't.
Speaker 31 Not everyone.
Speaker 46 Not everyone.
Speaker 33 Yeah.
Speaker 46 Then you were with DJ at that MoMA show at that MoMA event last weekend, and he was so sweet.
Speaker 1 My son is the cutest. I told him I was coming on your podcast.
Speaker 141 He goes, mom, come on.
Speaker 1 That's going to be so fun. He goes, tell me what the building looks like and what the studio looks like.
Speaker 46 Really? Is he into buildings and studios?
Speaker 143 He's, no, he's into you guys and pop culture.
Speaker 1 And he loves the way that you set lysis or tastemakers.
Speaker 70 Of course you love that.
Speaker 119 Oh my gosh.
Speaker 74 that is too
Speaker 46 sweet.
Speaker 25 Well, just to talk about that, I will say, you know, in
Speaker 74 thinking about like this episode with you, I really can go back to one of them, I think, first really formative memories I have of going to the movies with my mom and my sister.
Speaker 26 We sat down. I remember where we sat in the theater.
Speaker 118 Like it was like on Patchog, like on Long Island.
Speaker 35 Patchog.
Speaker 84 And we went to go see Legally Blonde.
Speaker 148 And it was one of those things where I'm sure you have this.
Speaker 151 Like you see the movie once and you know every line.
Speaker 127 Like, it's just one of those things.
Speaker 1 Those kind of movies just are sticky.
Speaker 74 Yeah. Sticky.
Speaker 31 Yeah.
Speaker 13 Did you, you're playing Elle Woods, like you're, you're, you're doing this character, you're on set, you know that everyone there is great.
Speaker 121 But are you thinking, like,
Speaker 102 what are you thinking doing it?
Speaker 154 Like, like, is this?
Speaker 1 Okay, well, let me get my time machine because it was 25 years ago.
Speaker 74 And that also has to be kind of surreal.
Speaker 48 It was so surreal.
Speaker 1 Well, I was a new mom. I had a little baby, my daughter on set.
Speaker 1 And I just remember i took comedy really seriously like it was not a joke right i had studied goldie hawn like like my life depended on it for that role and um i studied her in private benjamin yes and then i studied comedy like you would try and cure a rare disease
Speaker 1 it was so important to me um i watched s n l religiously. So for me, creating a character, like I had just done it the year before with maybe two years before with Tracy Flick.
Speaker 1 It was really important to me that she had a very particular way she talked, a very particular way she walked.
Speaker 1 My early career was a lot about building characters that didn't have a lot of self-awareness.
Speaker 1 They just were like a bullet through the world, you know, determined to make their mark and determined to reach that goal.
Speaker 1 So that's what it was like. And we had our, I think, 20th year reunion of Legally Blonde and all the lovely cast members were there.
Speaker 1 And we all got on a Zoom from Jennifer Coolidge to Blake Wilson and Selma Blair and they were all like it was like kind of fun
Speaker 76 but it's hard to remember because it was like a job at the time I was really serious like I was a very very very serious young person you have to be I mean I mean it all it all it all translates to the final product but like this is why like people come to SNL as you know and like you you expect it to be like riffing and like everyone's just improvising and just the chemistry is off the charts we're there to like turn the page and read the script and like hit our marks.
Speaker 155 It's technical.
Speaker 1 And also in your brain, aren't you thinking, I got to think of something that no one else is thinking of?
Speaker 165 Totally.
Speaker 1 So my thing was always, how can I be contrary?
Speaker 1 How can I play this how no one else would play this?
Speaker 155 Totally.
Speaker 1 Because that's what I'm here to be original,
Speaker 1 not be basic.
Speaker 1 And there were a hundred ways to play Elle Woods that I was like, seen it, done it, not hearing them. Of course.
Speaker 1 So if you thought she was going to be bitchy or spoiled, rotten, no, she had a really soft center.
Speaker 99 Yeah, very.
Speaker 1 If you thought she was going to be dumb or say the wrong thing, she was going to say it laser sharp and in really crisp words and say it with daggers in her eyes.
Speaker 1 So I was always trying to startle people with the switch.
Speaker 100 Right.
Speaker 75 But it's interesting that you bring up Tracy
Speaker 75 in the context of Tracy and Al and that early stuff, like I would say there's a common thread there where it's like underestimation.
Speaker 5 People underestimate them.
Speaker 79 And like, what is, what is that relationship to ambition?
Speaker 1 like are does one breathe the other do you need the other thing for it to happen yeah yeah well i think ambition threads through all my characters because i don't know i just wasn't here to do average and i
Speaker 1 i feel like a lot of people can relate to that i i wanted to be It's not like I wanted to be the best, but I wanted to be original. I wanted to be wholly original in this world.
Speaker 1 I wanted to make them laugh harder.
Speaker 46 I wanted them to cry.
Speaker 1 I wanted them to think they understood the smartest girl in school.
Speaker 34 She was actually a little broken inside.
Speaker 167 It's beautiful, you know?
Speaker 1 I actually modeled Tracy on a girl I went to high school with, and I didn't know a lot about her personal life, but it was really important to me as Alexander Payne and I were building that character.
Speaker 1 I was like, she needs to have a moment with her mother where you realize her mom's a single mom and she like curls her hair every day and she's living out her mother's broken dreams.
Speaker 46 Right.
Speaker 1 And there's one scene, but it, it, it cracks the whole thing for you. You're like, I can't make fun of this person.
Speaker 169 Sure. You're right.
Speaker 5 But you and Alex built that together, like that scene.
Speaker 170 Oh.
Speaker 1 Yes.
Speaker 1 He, yeah, I mean, he's incredible about understanding the day-to-day lives, the satire of living in middle America, but also having big dreams. But maybe your dreams are just to go to Northwestern.
Speaker 1 Right. You know, or like
Speaker 1 run for city council.
Speaker 69 Yeah.
Speaker 106 It is so fun.
Speaker 86 I have read the sequel.
Speaker 115 You have. Yes.
Speaker 171 So
Speaker 112 because I'm a huge election fan.
Speaker 148 Like, in fact, we ran into Matthew Broderick actually at SNL 50.
Speaker 95 Yeah. And we ended up seeing him twice.
Speaker 83 And both times I said, I just watched election.
Speaker 95 He's like, you told me.
Speaker 46 I was like, it's true, I did.
Speaker 145 Because I frequently returned to it and I watched it again after I read the novel.
Speaker 164 Is that in play right now?
Speaker 1 Is there, is that, is that something that's like, where is that on the list in terms of well, yeah, you don't want to say too much, but but there is a follow-up novel and we're thinking about making a movie because it goes in a really interesting direction i think for people that care about that character yeah and it ends dark and it's it's it's it's i'm really interested to see how it
Speaker 88 keeps going because
Speaker 92 it's also a comment on the fact that when you're someone that's super ambitious one of the things that can happen is you don't meet that ambition and you then
Speaker 1 that is a really sad thing and i think one of the toughest smallest thing can derail you oh yes and she gets derailed by something yes and but you can't stop the internal monster
Speaker 46 no she couldn't help she can't help herself and so basically One of the things I think is the most heartbreaking about the first film, I'm already talking about it as if it's too, I guess I'm manifesting it first, but in election, which is the sudden, after she's lost, the cut to just how heartbroken and devastated that she is.
Speaker 174 And I think that's when you realize how much work you've done.
Speaker 146 And it's interesting to look back that she's sort of an antagonist of the movie because she's antagonizing Matthew Broderick.
Speaker 148 But when you look at it now and you think back and you look at how heartbroken she was and what she went through going up to that, it feels really ripe for revisiting.
Speaker 1
I think so too. Yeah.
There was a whole
Speaker 1 the New York Times, I think it was AO Scott or something about 10 years ago, went back and watched it again and said, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Speaker 169 Yeah, this is what I'm doing.
Speaker 46 This is like a high school girl.
Speaker 170 Yeah.
Speaker 137 Yeah.
Speaker 1 Groomed and manipulated by her science teacher.
Speaker 115 Yes.
Speaker 178 That's not what I remember that movie being.
Speaker 95 And then his peer got mad at her.
Speaker 143 Yeah.
Speaker 1
Yeah. And Matthew Broderick's character, Mr.
McAllister, was actually complicit.
Speaker 46 Yeah.
Speaker 46 Wait, who was that?
Speaker 48 His friend. Yeah.
Speaker 69 Groomed, a teenager.
Speaker 106 Yeah, sort of, kind of sort of.
Speaker 46 Sort of mad at her and just decided to destroy her.
Speaker 181 And then she got a smoothie thrown at her at the end.
Speaker 179 That's
Speaker 179 goddamn it.
Speaker 74 Hate DC. Hate DC.
Speaker 75 That first shot of Tracy there shooting up her hand is like iconic situation. It's lasting.
Speaker 182 It's lasting.
Speaker 75 That's a good shot.
Speaker 183 Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 No, I don't know what shot you're talking about.
Speaker 106 Like when you first see Tracy, when she shoots up her hair, like, oh, and they hand scream on your face being like a little distorted.
Speaker 182 Yeah.
Speaker 75 It's like it's meant to humiliate this child.
Speaker 1 And do you know what the question is? Who knows the difference between ethics and morals?
Speaker 69 Love it.
Speaker 46 The irony.
Speaker 135 The irony.
Speaker 33 I love it.
Speaker 150 The irony. No, it's an amazing script.
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Speaker 148 The impact that you had, not the beginning of your career, but after it had been going for five, six years, it felt like you had like these, not even just like successes in pop culture, but also like critical hits.
Speaker 81 So it's like, there's Pleasantville, which I think is so many people's favorite movie.
Speaker 87 It's one of mine.
Speaker 81 And there's obviously Legally Blonde.
Speaker 148 There's Cruel Intentions.
Speaker 43 So I would imagine that like, as you're going forward in your career, does your team, like at that point, are they just like, let's just keep you busy?
Speaker 44 Or are you, when you look back at that point, are you, were you always someone who was like trying to pick and choose what the next move was?
Speaker 1
It was always very strategic. And it was me and my manager, Evelyn O'Neill.
And that was, that was it. It was just her and I.
Speaker 79 And then what was the planning?
Speaker 75 Like, what was the initial conversation behind, let's do, let's do this Hello Sunshine thing.
Speaker 76 Let's actually
Speaker 14 taste the taste.
Speaker 1
Okay, that was a different iteration of my life. So Evelyn and I, that was my early career.
And then I decided to kind of go my own way when I was 34.
Speaker 223 And I, the business had shifted a lot.
Speaker 1
So I don't want to get into the nitty-gritty, but the DVD business left. Right.
And so all the development of films about women were kind of the mid-range budget. And that's where it just went away.
Speaker 1 They weren't developing things for women. So, I thought, okay, if I don't take this moment to start developing for myself and for my friends, who are incredible,
Speaker 1 shame on me, first of all, for being so successful and then not doing something about the lack of storytelling for women. So,
Speaker 1 it was a moment where I had to meet the moment, and I was really scared.
Speaker 99 Because also, truthfully,
Speaker 1 that ambition thing is not always appealing to everybody.
Speaker 31 You know, like, of course not.
Speaker 104 Well, that's why a lot of I think the characters are people blanch at them at first and then they learn to love them because they learn to understand them.
Speaker 35 And,
Speaker 221 but you're right.
Speaker 101 It is.
Speaker 1
Well, and it's like for all our ambitious listeners out there, sometimes you rub people the wrong way. Yeah.
And people know that.
Speaker 1 Every ambitious friend of yours knows it's irritating to feel that like, come on, let's do more. Let's do this and we can do it.
Speaker 1 And let's throw the homecoming all together you know and then let's do the class project i'll take over everything it's an annoying character trait but then what's the way out like
Speaker 1 the way out for me and it was learning to not be embarrassed of it
Speaker 1 making peace with it and going i know i work harder is just how i'm made up and it's not my fault yeah yeah yeah um and
Speaker 1 how can I use that to harness more people and rope them into things that I think will be beneficial for them Instead of just serving my own agenda, which was making my own career, I thought when Hell of Sunshine began, I was like, oh my God, this is my opportunity to widen the net, bring people into a family of storytellers.
Speaker 1 And that's when my whole life changed.
Speaker 156 Yeah.
Speaker 224 I mean, truly, I think that there was like, it did feel like there was this like incredible second phase for you, which started with producing Gone Girl and then being in Wild.
Speaker 174 And I've always wanted to ask you about Gone Girl because that was the, was that the first big title that you had produced?
Speaker 143 Or?
Speaker 1 yeah, that was the first book I ever optioned as
Speaker 197 a producer.
Speaker 102 Jackpot, that is.
Speaker 1
It was crazy. We read it in galleys.
We read Wild. I read Wild and Gone Girl in Galleys.
My producing partner was Bruno Papandrea. And we were both like, these books are amazing.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 I had no idea they were going to be within six months, they were number one
Speaker 1 sitting next to each other on the New York Times for months and months and months. And I was like, the books, shit.
Speaker 131 I can't mess this up.
Speaker 46 No.
Speaker 75 I think that was the perfect one-two punch for you, for one to not be a vanity project and for one to be a vehicle for you.
Speaker 69 Does that make sense?
Speaker 79 Because that is what I think you innovated and established, John.
Speaker 75 It's like, I'm going to be a woman actor, actress, whatever,
Speaker 76 and I'm going to start my own production company and it will be holistic in that way.
Speaker 75 I think it could have gone, it might not have been sticky if we're going to use that word. Like it just not, it would not have stuck if it had been one thing.
Speaker 1
I agree. And they were both substantive, right? They were about what we perceive women as, how they subvert that.
Gone girl is the ultimate like mind.
Speaker 48 So turning so yummy.
Speaker 136 And Fincher just killed it.
Speaker 156 And Rosalind Pike is so diabolical.
Speaker 1 And Ben Affleck is sort of the.
Speaker 1 the rube on the other side of it.
Speaker 83 Supporting cast, too.
Speaker 115 Yeah.
Speaker 181 Carrie Kuhn.
Speaker 48 I mean, Carrie.
Speaker 113 Yeah, no, don't forget.
Speaker 81 And also our friend Casey Wilson.
Speaker 74 Like,
Speaker 80 that was one of those.
Speaker 95 Neil, Padre Harris.
Speaker 180 Oh, again, against type, against type.
Speaker 86 Playing with a lot of against type stuff.
Speaker 145 And I did want to ask you about that particular role, though, because I had read, I think a lot of people that, you know, follow this stuff, that you had been attached to do Gone Girl.
Speaker 15 And then after a conversation with David, you guys decided that maybe the audience would have had a gauge on you already.
Speaker 9 Or like, what was that conversation?
Speaker 41 How did you feel about it at the time?
Speaker 91 Well,
Speaker 1 yes, I had optioned it to star in it, and I was supposed to star in it.
Speaker 1 There'll be a whole chapter of a book one day about Gone Girl because that started my producing career, but it also told me, hey, nobody's happy for you to have this producing career.
Speaker 1 Nobody wants you here.
Speaker 46 Wow.
Speaker 1 And David sat me down.
Speaker 136 And this is not on David, but David's like, you're totally wrong for this part.
Speaker 1 And I'm not putting you in it.
Speaker 45 So that was.
Speaker 139 At first, how did that?
Speaker 121 And you're probably like, hold on a second.
Speaker 1 Well, because I'd had all these conversations with the writer, Gillian Flynn, and she was like, no, I'd really like you to do it.
Speaker 1
But he was like, you're wrong. And that was, first of all, an ego check for me.
I was like, no, you're not right for everything.
Speaker 69 Wow.
Speaker 1 And he was right. He was totally right.
Speaker 79 But why was he right?
Speaker 75 How did he rationalize that to you?
Speaker 34 He didn't have to.
Speaker 1 He's David Fincher.
Speaker 132 He's like, oh, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 He literally says it this. He's like, you're wrong for this part and I'm not putting you in it.
Speaker 14 But I'm asking, like, was he sick?
Speaker 75 Like, did you get an inkling of like, oh, because people will project onto me all of their preconceived notions about me as an actor?
Speaker 131 I think that is probably for him.
Speaker 1 Yes. I brought an audience with me
Speaker 1 that likes me
Speaker 46 and wants me to win.
Speaker 46 I remember thinking because we've talked about this topic.
Speaker 167 So I'm not sinister or diabolical.
Speaker 69 Sure, sure.
Speaker 46 No, but isn't it?
Speaker 103 Isn't that the thing that would have been the service?
Speaker 179 Exactly.
Speaker 171 Not to go back in history and fight with David Fincher in my own head, because the movie is perfect.
Speaker 46 No, and Rosamond is perfect. She's great.
Speaker 180 And I mean, it also started a, start really started a whole other type of career for her, too, which is like a testament to the producing of that movie.
Speaker 1 Yeah. And I think it's important.
Speaker 1 Producing also means get out of the way when you're supposed to, you know, get out of the way, do your job to promote, continue to pull people together, continue to build creative groups so that the ultimate result is the best work that it could possibly be.
Speaker 1
So that was a lesson to me, but it behind the scenes, a lot of stuff happened that was not cool in terms of like my credits and da da da. Sure.
Which is so boring. No, it is.
Speaker 1 But it took me till big little lies.
Speaker 1 So big little lies was like a year later and nicole and i produced that together till people started taking me seriously as a producer because honestly could not get traction even as a producer even with those hits with those three oscar nominations yeah
Speaker 84 it was really hard that's wild it's wild no pun intended but especially because I feel like wild in particular, the whole story, the whole narrative was like, this was a film that she produced alongside Gungirl.
Speaker 74 But that performance, that performance is just like,
Speaker 30 it is a 360.
Speaker 29 And it was so different from what you had done.
Speaker 226 I would imagine that felt incredibly vulnerable.
Speaker 173 And alongside the statement of, I'm producing this.
Speaker 102 Yeah.
Speaker 43 Was that the moment, if you look back, that are one of the moments where you felt like this is a watershed thing?
Speaker 102 Like that had to be a high anxiety moment.
Speaker 1
Yeah. Oh my God.
So much anxiety. But doing wild was a reset for my whole life, my whole career, which was great for me.
I had to work physically. I couldn't talk.
Speaker 1 You know, my superpower is talking really fast.
Speaker 85 um it was mostly backpack yeah it was backpack
Speaker 44 it was all contemplating the earth and yeah it's hard the realism of that movie is kind of the the sort of corollary to like everything you had done up to that point also you let out one of the great screams yeah the foot oh god
Speaker 46 i'll never forget the foot
Speaker 95 yeah both shoes
Speaker 46 That was
Speaker 95 one of the best opening scenes in movies.
Speaker 74 So good.
Speaker 85 Did you end up watching it on the plane last night? Okay.
Speaker 69 I'm so glad you're not.
Speaker 33 I have to come down and watch it on the plane.
Speaker 94 It's not a hardship to watch your movie.
Speaker 38 Yeah, twist my arm.
Speaker 74 I got to watch recently.
Speaker 46 That was intense, though.
Speaker 83 Yeah, that is an intense. It's an intense one.
Speaker 13 And of course, there's that,
Speaker 87 God, the heartbreaking scene where you discover.
Speaker 95 that your mother has passed and that you weren't there and that great Laura Dernborn.
Speaker 69 We were just talking about Laura Dern for the first time.
Speaker 107 That actually was kind of where I was going.
Speaker 139 So was that the start?
Speaker 219 Were you friends with Laura before that?
Speaker 142 Or?
Speaker 1 No, we met on that movie. Great.
Speaker 85 So you met on that movie? Cause it does come up.
Speaker 1 She was doing her death scene.
Speaker 46 Oh, was that? That was day one.
Speaker 166 Day one.
Speaker 1
She's dead. I walk in.
I'm like, she was like, I'm going through a divorce.
Speaker 136 I was like, just been through one.
Speaker 46 Let's get into it.
Speaker 131 Let's go.
Speaker 138 So, so then there, there begins.
Speaker 46 There begins that friendship.
Speaker 86 And it does feel like you guys are like sisters.
Speaker 1 Oh, my gosh.
Speaker 69 We are so connected.
Speaker 1 And we laugh all morning, all night. I just FaceTimed her this morning.
Speaker 136 I was like, going on Let's Call Teresa.
Speaker 46 She's like, no.
Speaker 69 Oh, my God. I was like, what's that?
Speaker 46 No.
Speaker 106 I just met her actually on Tom Royale.
Speaker 107 So it was like, it was like, it was a two second thing, but I was just like, I didn't get time with her, but I was like, God, she really, she is similar to you.
Speaker 100 It's like, like, she will always.
Speaker 124 have that
Speaker 95 other place in your mind where it's like, I once saw you on a screen and you changed my life, and here you are walking around and really producing this show that I was, the Pomeroyale show, like really there on her day off, there in the nuts and bolts.
Speaker 174 And it's really amazing to see because you guys bring perspective
Speaker 16 that is not usually there.
Speaker 1
She's just so encyclopedic about her understanding of film, television, performance, how movies come together. She's a savant, and she's also lovely and kind and humble.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 But she can eviscerate you in a scene, and you're just like, oh, this is so good. Some of my favorite stuff I've ever done in my whole life was scenes between Madeline and Nanata on Big Little Eyes.
Speaker 134 I'll never, you forget, you guys.
Speaker 143 She's a fire pic, letting it rip at each other.
Speaker 106 You better not cancel my daughter's birthday.
Speaker 1 And I was like, I'm going to Disney on ice instead.
Speaker 98 We've got Isa Avenue Q being like these tent pole plot points the best
Speaker 179 in that show.
Speaker 46 I mean, I will also say, like,
Speaker 106 the puppets. Yeah, the puppets.
Speaker 207 That show.
Speaker 115 Yes.
Speaker 111 Perfection.
Speaker 40 No, it really was.
Speaker 103 And talk about again, like, yet again, like, just watching everything about it.
Speaker 113 I mean, like, and like just the shots of the crashing waves, et cetera.
Speaker 80 White Lotus, we see you.
Speaker 81 We know where you got that from.
Speaker 169 We know where you got that.
Speaker 99 But that,
Speaker 25 that.
Speaker 174 You have to feel like that probably opened so much up in TV then.
Speaker 1 It was such, that was a watershed.
Speaker 134 I think. Yeah.
Speaker 78 Not just for you, but for television.
Speaker 131 Yeah.
Speaker 1 But I think because a group of that esteemed level actresses doing a TV show was unheard of. Also, just like Nicole, myself, and Laura and Zoe Kravitz and Shaylee Winley, like all in our friendship.
Speaker 1 You heard more about our friendships than you heard about our work or what's going on with our kids.
Speaker 99 Like, who cares?
Speaker 131 We're best friends.
Speaker 46 We were so angry at each other
Speaker 118 through the screen.
Speaker 1 But it was, you know, it was just the inner workings of female relationships. And I think the really beautiful thing about Big Little Lies is it's actually an entire show about domestic violence.
Speaker 1 And it had this, again, this emotional resonance where you think it's this frothy thing, right?
Speaker 1
But it's actually something very, very real that happens to one in three women. Yes.
And so you could laugh about it, right?
Speaker 70 It's funny.
Speaker 1 I tend to migrate as like little pets.
Speaker 46 Yeah, like, yes, yes.
Speaker 1
And scenes with me and Laura, amazing. Yeah.
We're in a totally different show than Nicole Kidman. Right.
And Alexander Scargard.
Speaker 163 Absolutely.
Speaker 1 And it all comes together at the very end.
Speaker 142 You're like, holy shit.
Speaker 84 Well, I think one of the really powerful things was the dichotomy of like, there are these women arguing about this play and literally blocks over, there's this thing happening.
Speaker 174 And so, yes, there are are two different shows.
Speaker 15 But it is in one reality and it is also
Speaker 174 the reality, which is that these things are happening and the shock with which you guys receive that information, but the immediate way you know to protect and act, I think was so powerful.
Speaker 81 And certainly all my female friends, all our female friends that we talked to were just like, so
Speaker 102 empowered and emboldened by the fact that like we will have each other's backs and that that's what that show was about.
Speaker 131 And we'll also have joy and we'll also have laughter and we'll also be petty and then we'll make up for it.
Speaker 113 And we'll still get into it afterwards.
Speaker 1 We're going to do it and we're going to have this great life together.
Speaker 31 Truly. Yeah.
Speaker 4 No one can resist a rule of culture.
Speaker 120 So here's one for the dating files.
Speaker 198 Rule of culture number 72.
Speaker 158 Chemistry isn't just vibes, it's values.
Speaker 16 Because what's the point of matching with someone if you can't talk about the shows you binge, the books you dog ear, or all the hot takes you'll defend at brunch?
Speaker 199 I mean, you definitely have friends who have met their partners on Bumble, and it makes sense.
Speaker 130 It's not just about matching with someone, it's about finding someone who gets your references, your obsessions, your whole vibe.
Speaker 23 With shared interests and prompts, you don't just see a profile.
Speaker 125 You get a glimpse of someone's personality, which makes it even easier to start conversations that actually lead somewhere.
Speaker 203 Plus, with photo and ID verification, you can trust that the person you're talking to is real.
Speaker 39 With that added peace of mind, it's so much easier to show up as your full self.
Speaker 204 So whether your rule of culture is the best first state, start with the shared hot take on Renaissance, or compatibility is having the same hometown bodega order, download Bumble and turn those connections into something bigger.
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Speaker 97 I feel like that combination of the frothiness with the weight of something is to transition into Morning Show
Speaker 75 is the thing that we love about Morning Show.
Speaker 2 We've made a lot of light about like the campiness of it, obviously.
Speaker 87 We like it, but
Speaker 75 especially watching this season, I go, you need the campiness.
Speaker 114 I need the ridiculous.
Speaker 75 You need Bradley Jackson going to space
Speaker 76 in order to talk about
Speaker 4 these things that even TV now doesn't want to tackle, like the pandemic, like the fucking insurrection, like all of these really fucked up things about the world.
Speaker 152 You know, like, I think.
Speaker 96 Was that like the vision for the show the whole time?
Speaker 75 Because it also mimics the dichotomy between morning news shows, which we've had experience on now, where it's like, okay, we're going to talk about a war going on in some place at any given time.
Speaker 46 And we're all going to be talking about it.
Speaker 100 How do you fold a handkerchief?
Speaker 180 We're going to find out.
Speaker 143 The best way to use a plunger.
Speaker 106 It's like, it's so good.
Speaker 111 That's iconic blast.
Speaker 1
But that's life now. So I think you're right.
And you call it campy and soapy, but for me, it's like,
Speaker 1 where's the
Speaker 99 the human experience?
Speaker 132 Yes. Right.
Speaker 99 So if you, you're talking about really earnest subject matter, you have to lighten it up.
Speaker 165 100%.
Speaker 1 You have to be having like the news producer and the on-air athlete talking about like,
Speaker 1 why didn't you, why were you late at work today?
Speaker 155 You know, that's.
Speaker 1 Loved that scene, by the way, between, oh my God, between Karen Pittman and Olbahari.
Speaker 106 Karen is,
Speaker 85 I mean, like, she's so special.
Speaker 180 I know. Like, we are
Speaker 113 Karen Pittman super stance.
Speaker 84 And she's also one of the most stunning individuals on planet Earth.
Speaker 146 And like, Helen of Troy.
Speaker 124 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 182 You could say Helen of Troy.
Speaker 165 We both grew up in Nashville.
Speaker 46 Really?
Speaker 47 Throw a rock.
Speaker 131 She went to the one girl's school, I went to the other girl's school, and same age, exact same age, coming up together.
Speaker 1 And we finally met on the first season of Morning Show. So we're natural girls.
Speaker 46 Oh, I love it.
Speaker 1
She's just great. I so celebrate all her wins.
And she was on, and just like that, too.
Speaker 46 And she's just killing it.
Speaker 102 She definitely is.
Speaker 105 I feel like the thing, too, about the morning show that
Speaker 221 I was referencing earlier was when you did go to space
Speaker 72 and then a matter of 10, 11 months later, we see the blue origin.
Speaker 134 Yes.
Speaker 91 What did that feel like?
Speaker 99 Because they're just forecasters, these writers.
Speaker 74 It's Simpsons level. They predict it.
Speaker 46 It's odd. Yeah.
Speaker 1 It's odd. Because at the end of season one, in the very last scene, Alex Levy has a meltdown on camera and she's like, screw this bullshit.
Speaker 1 And there's, and I'm talking about right before she says it, I'm like, and there's a mysterious illness on a cruise ship off the coast of China. Yeah.
Speaker 1 And then literally within six months, it was COVID.
Speaker 96 That episode aired before COVID.
Speaker 166 I know. Crazy.
Speaker 1 I don't know. There's some weird woo-woo stuff happening on the show.
Speaker 102 See, that's why I'm like, so they sent us the whole season of the show, of the new season, and we freaked.
Speaker 74 But now I'm like, oh, gosh, what's it going to portend at the end of the season that's going to befall us?
Speaker 166 I don't know.
Speaker 33 You do know, actually.
Speaker 33 I don't know.
Speaker 70 But I just love
Speaker 42 the tone of the show.
Speaker 100 Like, it's just, it's so fun.
Speaker 13 It's so enriching.
Speaker 87 Every character is like rich now in the fourth season.
Speaker 149 And even the new entrances, like, Marion Cottiar is just so perfect in this.
Speaker 224 And when I heard that she was cast, I'm like, what is that going to feel like?
Speaker 86 And she comes in and she just brings all her Marion-ness to it.
Speaker 81 And it does feel, she feels impenetrable and untouchable and very, you know, impenetrable.
Speaker 1 And her family owns the entire network now,
Speaker 136 along with a lot of other assets.
Speaker 1 And some are sort of
Speaker 46 maybe a little dubious.
Speaker 167 Unsavory.
Speaker 1
That comes around. Yeah.
That she's sort of the queen of this Empire's family empire and that they're doing some shady stuff.
Speaker 156 Yeah.
Speaker 1 And she's doing shady stuff all over the place. Don't get me started about episode eight.
Speaker 46 Episode episode eight.
Speaker 1 Maybe it's nine.
Speaker 138 Maybe it's nine.
Speaker 85 See, a penultimate episode. Just wait.
Speaker 113 That's where the real shit goes down. Don't be mad.
Speaker 74 Celine.
Speaker 121 It's Celine. It's Celine.
Speaker 81 And I said that her name was Celine.
Speaker 143 I was like, this was perfect.
Speaker 113 Of course it is.
Speaker 95 Did you name Bradley Jackson?
Speaker 161 Who named named Bradley Jackson?
Speaker 1 No, our original writer, Carrie Aaron, wrote
Speaker 69 Bradley Jackson. Bradley Jackson.
Speaker 46 It's unforgettable.
Speaker 1 It's very newscaster-y.
Speaker 129 Totally.
Speaker 97 But newscast out of like a rural network who is then spotlit on national television.
Speaker 75 Yeah.
Speaker 76 It's like, it works both ways.
Speaker 74 Yeah. You know? That's true.
Speaker 1 And ambitious.
Speaker 5 And ambitious.
Speaker 166 Do we sense a threat?
Speaker 11 We clearly do.
Speaker 103 Are you a news junkie or do you, or did you feel, have you always been?
Speaker 1 are you now no but i like to read very specific things about technology i'm really interested in technology yeah
Speaker 1 biomedical innovation is really interesting to me and
Speaker 1 and marketing is really interesting to me like how do consume like figuring out what consumers like I love it.
Speaker 31
Yeah. And why.
And why. Right.
Speaker 176 Culture. Culture.
Speaker 1 What do you how does it move markets? Like Taylor Swift moving
Speaker 1 markets in cities when her production comes there and economies grow.
Speaker 170 Let's talk about that.
Speaker 135 Oh, yeah.
Speaker 1
That's interesting to me. Why do people like certain people and really can't stand others? Yeah, yeah.
Is it better for people to for you to be controversial or no one cares about you?
Speaker 100 Is the curating?
Speaker 101 The curating.
Speaker 187 They run diagnostics.
Speaker 46 We can run it on you guys.
Speaker 115 I'd be scared.
Speaker 69 I'm going to run the curating. No, I'm the sure.
Speaker 46 Or maybe you do.
Speaker 119 Maybe you do.
Speaker 69 Wait, you might want it.
Speaker 46 Okay.
Speaker 46
You might want that data. My hands is 150.
No way.
Speaker 223 Do you guys like data?
Speaker 69 Do you like knowing that guys?
Speaker 96 But the right, I mean,
Speaker 79 there are some little flames that I don't want to touch.
Speaker 75 You know what I mean?
Speaker 169 I find it really fascinating.
Speaker 46 Like, I don't want an aura ring.
Speaker 1 Like, who am I going to do with that current?
Speaker 31 So
Speaker 69 you're not woo-woo. Let's talk.
Speaker 129 What's it giving today?
Speaker 75 My resiliency score is down to adequate because we were on a red eye.
Speaker 106 My resilience
Speaker 74 score. My grit.
Speaker 46 I got to get my grit score up.
Speaker 131 I mean, my sleep score.
Speaker 14 Listen, she tracks the naps with eerie precision.
Speaker 1 But what are you doing with this information? Like, does it make you feel better?
Speaker 107 How would you become more resilient?
Speaker 75 How I, well, it gives me knowledge that I've trended downward, right? So I really got to, okay, let me be more intentional about my sleep.
Speaker 130 Let me be more intentional about my, like working out in the morning.
Speaker 21 Let me be more intentional about time to read, read, which I want to ask you about.
Speaker 79 Like, it does give some shape to the outlook of the day.
Speaker 87 Okay.
Speaker 20 It gives you a readiness score based on your sleep, based on your activity the day before.
Speaker 1 Okay, but if something woke you up in the morning and said, You're so tired.
Speaker 46 You look really tired.
Speaker 115 Are you tired?
Speaker 47 Do you want to sleep?
Speaker 131 God, why?
Speaker 177 Are you looking tired?
Speaker 138 Well, trash GPT is just a little bit more.
Speaker 179 I have data about
Speaker 69 how tired you are. I'm 100 tired.
Speaker 1 And how are you going to feel for the rest of the day?
Speaker 46 Yeah, probably.
Speaker 172 I am so susceptible.
Speaker 1 It will tell me how to feel.
Speaker 31 Well, I'll be like, oh, totally.
Speaker 115 I didn't sleep.
Speaker 47 I don't have a crown.
Speaker 115 I think.
Speaker 163 No, they give you a crown on the score if you do.
Speaker 179 I don't even know about that.
Speaker 46 But it's just like
Speaker 1 human behavior 101.
Speaker 131 They're trying to like
Speaker 77 manipulate you.
Speaker 48 And you're letting them.
Speaker 78 But the tone is actually quite gentle.
Speaker 96 Like, should I read the wedding score today?
Speaker 103 It's actually quite, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 131 And then I'd like to know your saltiness.
Speaker 106 Your sassiness.
Speaker 143 There's to deal with shit.
Speaker 46 Saltiness.
Speaker 46 There should be.
Speaker 1 How much crap can you handle today?
Speaker 75 So, this is, it's like, if you, if you did like go on a bender the night before and you only got like, whatever, three hours of sleep, it goes, maybe think about taking it easy.
Speaker 14 It's very gentle.
Speaker 176 Okay, it's this nice
Speaker 158 sobriety.
Speaker 69 You need sobriety.
Speaker 94 No, no, no.
Speaker 46 I don't get it.
Speaker 74 I wasn't really mad.
Speaker 95 It's loading it up right now, but like, that's what I said.
Speaker 163 It's never been like.
Speaker 129 Finger waggy. Okay.
Speaker 69 You're not doing so.
Speaker 46 While this loads up, it's also how you hear it.
Speaker 102 Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1 How you take criticism,
Speaker 1 just window into me, don't take take it well.
Speaker 159 Well, I was going to ask you that.
Speaker 85 Like as someone who's like a metrics,
Speaker 103 but also a sensitive person as a result of like what you do, I've always been like interested in this.
Speaker 80 People that are very producerial and people that are real, you know, you're a business person, and so, but you're also an actor.
Speaker 161 And so you maintain a lot of like openness, vulnerability, sensitivity in order to do what you do.
Speaker 175 How do you
Speaker 81 balance those two things as someone who's like out there publicly as a product in a way that we all are, but also someone who markets that product.
Speaker 74 Like, how do you, like, how do you walk that line and maintain this attitude?
Speaker 46 Oh, okay.
Speaker 1
Well, I guess, well, that's a good question. It has different levels to it, too, because when I'm in work mode, it's a full different personality.
And that's where I've kind of been for a while now.
Speaker 1 The acting, I have to switch on. I have to kind of tune out what's happening in the business.
Speaker 1 But I knew if I didn't tune in to the business and kind of level up, I wasn't going to make change.
Speaker 187 You may get, or you may get lost.
Speaker 1 I would get lost, but I also just think not enough of it. Like I wasn't an executive, but I had to become an executive already past nine years.
Speaker 136 And I don't enjoy it per se,
Speaker 1 but it's important if I want to affect change and actually create a company that has enterprise value in a market and see where the ball is going in terms of media.
Speaker 1 So I have to pay attention to all of that.
Speaker 223 Yeah.
Speaker 75 Well, even be, so outside of those things, it's like, I think with Hello Sunshine, you've like created the trend of actor starts production company.
Speaker 114 Great.
Speaker 32 But that's, but what you've always avoided, which is what's common, is that an actor starts a production company as a way to be a boom to the changing tides of showbiz.
Speaker 79 I don't think that that's ever been true for you.
Speaker 44 Maybe in the beginning when you were having to like prove yourself, quote unquote.
Speaker 102 But now I feel like with the pipeline of the book club, you have this way to create taste.
Speaker 32 You are a tastemaker more than we are, to to be sure.
Speaker 23 So like, what is the difference between, like, how do you like changing that dial has to be a very intentional, very difficult thing?
Speaker 1 Well, I think taking some of the intense spotlight I had as a very young person, and I learned a lot about marketing through sitting about meetings, people talking about me like I was a product.
Speaker 1 And they were like, well, it plays well in Russia and Brazil, but it doesn't play well in Japan. And I was like, you're talking about me? Yeah.
Speaker 115 Why do they not? Okay.
Speaker 1 So I had to learn to depersonalize it.
Speaker 180 Yeah, why do they not like me in Japan?
Speaker 48
Right. I don't know.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 And then I don't know. Because they haven't met me.
Speaker 33 Because they haven't met me.
Speaker 169 That is kind of what you said.
Speaker 33 Well, I should go.
Speaker 115 Oh, yeah.
Speaker 69 I'm doing a meeting.
Speaker 177 I'll do a meeting.
Speaker 115 Book the place.
Speaker 69 Let's go on a vacay.
Speaker 46 I love the emphasis.
Speaker 1 But no, I started to learn about how audiences receive information, what things trend this way and that way. So as I started thinking about a book club as
Speaker 223 a business enterprise, right?
Speaker 1 What were the advantages, first of all, being first to market on having read something ahead of time and then going to those authors and saying,
Speaker 1
first, you did the hard work. You broke the back of the story.
These characters are indelible. Can I help you promote it with this spotlight that I have?
Speaker 1 That's all on me, but can I shine a little bit on you and help you out with some marketing stuff online? And then also, if you feel inclined to give me the first write of the option, let me know.
Speaker 1 But there was never like, you have to give me an option on your book. So I wanted to clarify that because that was a lot of people say, oh, she got the first right of refusal.
Speaker 1
I didn't, but people were so appreciative of the marketing. And then I also said, if you give me the rights, I'm not going to stick it in development hell.
No.
Speaker 1 I'm going to work my ass off on it for two years. And if I can't get it made, I'm going to give it back to you, you know?
Speaker 1 But, and we had a great success rate from Little Fires Everywhere to, you know, big little lies to Morning Show to Last Thing You you ever told me. And
Speaker 1 now we have another new one coming out with Danya Taylor Joy called Lucky.
Speaker 1 And it's been great. Where the chronic thing.
Speaker 48 Yes.
Speaker 84 Is it that you're looking at projects and you think, oh, this is something I really want to do with Carrie.
Speaker 148 This would be fun to do with her.
Speaker 154 We always joke, this podcast started out as a way for us to have a play date once a week.
Speaker 81 And you're looking, you see these things and you're like, this is my play date with Carrie Washington.
Speaker 99 For real. Yes.
Speaker 1 And I get to play with my favorite people. And, you know,
Speaker 132 what a gift. Yeah, totally.
Speaker 1
And also empower them. We all get to make something together and have a blast while we're doing it.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 So it, it isn't, I don't mean to diminish it and say it's easy because it's really hard work and long hours. And,
Speaker 152 but geez, it's like reaping the rewards of 30 years of hard work.
Speaker 169 Yeah, totally.
Speaker 46 And I get to love.
Speaker 1 I love my job.
Speaker 108
I love it. You can tell.
It's clear.
Speaker 46 It's so clear.
Speaker 138 We love that you do it.
Speaker 1 I'm just such a nerd. I read constantly.
Speaker 75 I was going to ask between reading about technology and biomedical stuff.
Speaker 166 I'll take an hour a day.
Speaker 1 I'll read that like while I get coffee.
Speaker 198 Some total of the day, how much of it is reading?
Speaker 75 Because this is what I want to kind of engineer in my own life.
Speaker 4 I'm like, I got to fucking read books instead of
Speaker 4 scrolling on this.
Speaker 46 I know. I know.
Speaker 1 And I do think people are kind of getting off the phone and saying, like, touch grass, read a book, hold paper.
Speaker 74 Yep.
Speaker 46 I read an hour at night.
Speaker 1 I read an hour in the morning and an hour at night. And then I'm on a plane the whole plane ride.
Speaker 102 Yeah.
Speaker 119 So I can get through a lot on planes.
Speaker 13 And how much are, can you ever stop yourself and just be like, Rhys, I'm just going to enjoy this book and stop thinking about
Speaker 46
it. Right.
You know what I mean? Like, who should play this female lead?
Speaker 69 Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 Somebody know who'd be amazing in this? Bradley Cooper.
Speaker 48 Yeah.
Speaker 98 As a female lead.
Speaker 46 No kidding.
Speaker 46 Kidding.
Speaker 31 No.
Speaker 232 But there's.
Speaker 1 No, I think in cinematic terms, I'm I'm always casting the movie in my mind.
Speaker 108 Nothing wrong with it. It's fun.
Speaker 164 It is so fun.
Speaker 46 Nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 4 No one can resist a rule of culture.
Speaker 120 So here's one for the dating files.
Speaker 198 Rule of culture number 72.
Speaker 158 Chemistry isn't just vibes, it's values.
Speaker 40 Because what's the point of matching with someone if you can't talk about the shows you binge, the books you dog ear, or all the hot takes you'll defend at brunch?
Speaker 162 I mean, you definitely have friends who have met their partners on Bumble, and it makes sense.
Speaker 130 It's not just about matching with someone, it's about finding someone who gets your references, your obsessions, your whole vibe.
Speaker 201 With shared interests and prompts, you don't just see a profile, you get a glimpse of someone's personality, which makes it even easier to start conversations that actually lead somewhere.
Speaker 203 Plus, with photo and ID verification, you can trust that the person you're talking to is real.
Speaker 39 With that added peace of mind, it's so much easier to show up as your full self.
Speaker 204 So, whether your rule of culture is the best first state, start with the shared hot take on Renaissance, or compatibility is having the same hometown bodega order, download Bumble and turn those connections into something bigger.
Speaker 206 Download Bumble and start your love story.
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Speaker 81 speaking of the mind let's take an odyssey into it we're gonna ask you the question that we ask everyone on our show which is what was the culture that made you say culture was for me
Speaker 1 it's just like so many things came into my mind when we were talking i know i bet i mean when i thought about it you know
Speaker 1 when you first asked me i was like was it this i mean i remember when mtv started that was a big deal in my childhood
Speaker 99 and john mon jovi or jbj as i call him
Speaker 1 came out with this music video called living on a prayer yeah and he wore these thigh-high red leather boots
Speaker 1 and you would think reese wishman's not like into guys with thigh-high red leather oh yes
Speaker 1 it was a moment it was a moment and i had a lot there was a all kind of feelings about that and that to me was like mtv movie awards and video awards were huge in my childhood.
Speaker 1 Because I grew up in a little town in Tennessee and I was seeing people like talk about,
Speaker 74 you know,
Speaker 1 gender fluidity, whether they were talking about it or they were just exhibiting it.
Speaker 69 That was cool.
Speaker 1 They were edgy or like when Gwen Stefani came out with I'm just a girl.
Speaker 91 Yeah.
Speaker 1 And she had this ska song about how women are always sublimated and ignored and underestimated.
Speaker 233 I was like, that's my anthem.
Speaker 99 But as you're sitting here, I was like, oh my God, I know what culture was for me.
Speaker 136 I remember being, going with a group of friends to the movies and seeing First Wives Club.
Speaker 31 Oh, yes.
Speaker 1
And seeing Diane Keaton, Bette Miller, and Goldie Hahn do that dance at the end. Well, yeah.
And I was like, I think I was the only 11-year-old watching it like, that's revenge.
Speaker 143 You know, their unhappiness is
Speaker 46 and they express it through song and dance.
Speaker 1 And on a huge screen, and they sing, you don't know me.
Speaker 33 Yeah.
Speaker 1 You know, I'm just like, this is it.
Speaker 115 That's it.
Speaker 124 I used to rent that from Blockbuster all the time.
Speaker 86 Like, I can't believe my mom just wasn't like, oh, my son's gay.
Speaker 160 Like, cause it was like, I was like, I was renting it from Blockbuster all the time and watching it.
Speaker 226 And I, I don't remember like the rest of it from that time, but that scene.
Speaker 182 That scene.
Speaker 1 By the way, your Blockbuster strategy was culture. Like on Friday nights?
Speaker 46 100%.
Speaker 136 Were you like the basics that like ran for the new hits, or were you like,
Speaker 1 I think I'm going to go rent Blue Velvet?
Speaker 99 It's by David Lamb.
Speaker 223 What I would do was it Winona Ryder Film Festival that I was always having.
Speaker 137 Oh, my God.
Speaker 226 There was, I'll never forget walking down the aisle and I saw Batman Forever and Nicole Kidman had her Veronica-like hair.
Speaker 81 And I said, I know something about myself as a result of the way I'm reacting to this picture.
Speaker 89 And I took that movie, and one day when she sits in this seat, I will tell her that that
Speaker 95 Dr. Chase Morini
Speaker 1
is seared into my consciousness. Yes.
It's a core memory frame.
Speaker 89 Her, her, like, it's like a, it's like a noir-ish scene where like
Speaker 155 it's Jessica Rabbit.
Speaker 69 It's Jessica Rabbit.
Speaker 78 Absolutely.
Speaker 139 She gathers up her
Speaker 102 like linens and she goes over to like, you know, the curtain's blowing and then Batman comes and they're having this scene.
Speaker 103 And I'm like, that might have been a little bit of an awakening for me, to be honest with you.
Speaker 46 That was my blockbuster.
Speaker 75 It's like it's all coming back to me now.
Speaker 97 It's like women at a window with linens.
Speaker 69 You know what I mean?
Speaker 187 White linens and a blowing in the breeze.
Speaker 179 Yeah. That was my intro to Nicole.
Speaker 129 But your blockbuster strategy is your culture because it would be like, are you going to go to the wall with the new releases where it's like 10, 20 copies of one thing?
Speaker 119 Or are you going to.
Speaker 3 slowly peruse the aisles and I'm like nine years old and going what's the deer hunter like not like
Speaker 1 the deer hunter well and I was a Goldiehog completist so it was either either overboard or wildcats when i had to go down
Speaker 1 and then i could get a i could always get a group of kids to kind of watch what i wanted to watch yeah i was considered like
Speaker 1 you're producing them i was like you guys just don't know follow me
Speaker 137 come on come with me
Speaker 1 huge yeah she was huge and winona rider was huge and i felt like i felt like i knew her
Speaker 33 sure
Speaker 121 overboard i almost had to wait
Speaker 2 that movie is everything it's seared into me but this is everything but the end of first Wives Club is like this light that's refracted into three different beams among those women.
Speaker 75 And you had, you could choose all three of them to model yourself after.
Speaker 95 Like even for us, it's like, I want to be all of them.
Speaker 48 And
Speaker 1 your life wasn't a result of what the bad relationships that had happened to you. It was what your friendships that were going to help you rise above and overcome.
Speaker 138 And how interesting that that came back around for you.
Speaker 1 I know. And you know,
Speaker 119 who knew that was
Speaker 1 until we just talked about it?
Speaker 127 We do know. It's funny.
Speaker 160 It's like someone said to me one time, like, you'll look back on your career and you'll see, you'll see a through line.
Speaker 153 And so it's funny.
Speaker 171 You said you talk about ambition being a through line.
Speaker 86 You talk about female friendship being a through line.
Speaker 95 And to
Speaker 87 be where you're at now and know that those things have stayed consistent, but also inspired people.
Speaker 50 That has to be really, really, really, really special.
Speaker 143 Yeah.
Speaker 1 And I feel lucky that I continue, I get to do it. I get to continue to do it at a really high level with really fun people is really awesome.
Speaker 1 But I had a friend say to me the other day, she said, you know, do you feel like you were born with a finite amount of stories to tell and you've told a lot of them?
Speaker 74 Why would she say that? Whoa.
Speaker 99 She was an author and she's probably 61 or something.
Speaker 1 And she's like, I feel like I'm kind of rewrapping every story, but it's always the same theme.
Speaker 46 But that's okay.
Speaker 1 Yeah, maybe we're all here for a purpose. You have to find, as Oprah would say, you have to find your purpose, you know, or what, like, do you know the themes of your storytelling lives?
Speaker 14 Not, it's coming into focus
Speaker 182 slowly.
Speaker 79 And, and for you to say that it, like, like, when would you say that it came into focus for me?
Speaker 1 Not until I was 34, 35.
Speaker 21 We're at, we're at that age, basically.
Speaker 1 So it's, it's, it's, it's where the, like, people pleasing starts to diminish and you start to go, oh, wait, what I've been doing is kind of good. I'm kindling, right?
Speaker 1 Like, I've had one success and it's building on another. And now it's time for me to slip into a leadership role and start being, and you'll start to see, I mean, you're probably already seeing this.
Speaker 1 People are looking at you and going, what do you want to do? Instead of going, can you please cast me or can you please put me in X?
Speaker 1 And so you have to spend that good, look at me like life coaching your hair.
Speaker 46 I know.
Speaker 132 I feel so strong. I feel very strongly.
Speaker 1 Like you guys are super creative. And it's important that when you figure that out for yourself,
Speaker 1 your life opens up in a beautiful way.
Speaker 1 And you start to go on a different path where it's like, okay, I'm only going to follow those, those threads that serve my real purpose and let people into my life that are helping that purpose.
Speaker 127 It's funny when
Speaker 225 you change too.
Speaker 92 Because it's like, I feel like when I was younger growing up, like, and I had that moment where I was watching the Oscars and I was, it was, I think I was eight years old.
Speaker 112 We always talk about that same, that Titanic Oscar, as we call it, 97, 98.
Speaker 174 That was the moment I looked in the screen and I was like, oh, I'm not supposed to be be here.
Speaker 127 I'm supposed to be with them.
Speaker 161 And then you get in the industry and you understand more about it and you work and you get the awards thing and
Speaker 86 you maybe even get to a point like you where you win the Oscar.
Speaker 174 And yet it's not like you hit the jackpot and won the game and now the rest of your life is roses.
Speaker 160 You still had struggles after that Oscar in terms of being taken seriously as a producer.
Speaker 99 Is that
Speaker 81 that must have been something that you really felt like?
Speaker 1 I've won an Oscar and yet still you know what I mean and you hear that over and over and over again that there's a curse that there's like what are they gonna open a magic you know vault with the great scripts that they've been waiting to give you no it's not it's actually it's an opportunity to start creating your own right but I didn't understand that and it took me four years to figure it out yeah because you're thinking after you win the Oscar for walk the line it's gonna get easier yeah you think it's gonna get easier they're gonna all of a sudden I'm gonna be where you know, so-and-so is.
Speaker 85 And then all of a sudden, you say, wait, who am I talking about as so-and-so?
Speaker 46 Because we're all here
Speaker 81 at women in Hollywood, even at this level.
Speaker 224 And it's not like there's like this abundance.
Speaker 115 Right.
Speaker 144 And it's, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 You nailed it.
Speaker 136 And there is an Oscar curse, I think.
Speaker 106 It feels like
Speaker 46 it feels like you're mindful of it.
Speaker 69 I mean, I think there's empirical data at this point.
Speaker 48 For data people.
Speaker 181 Yeah, for data people.
Speaker 48 For the data people, not the people who like, you know.
Speaker 119 Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 46 But it's interesting what I guess.
Speaker 81 It's interesting what ultimately does give you that satisfaction and purpose right it's like of course winning the oscar probably felt incredible like i would love to win one but you know that it's about what you can provide to people and what you can like be a part of that really affects change probably someone coming up to you that watched big little lies and said i felt empowered to say something yeah i asked my friend if they were okay yeah you know or I made sure that I just hang out with my female friends more as a result of watching that.
Speaker 86 That probably can give you something that an Oscar never could.
Speaker 1 Oh my God. Morning show, people talking about I was harassed in my workplace and I didn't have a voice and you illuminated the show and now everybody at work is behaving differently.
Speaker 156 Yeah.
Speaker 1 So a lot of
Speaker 1 the way our
Speaker 1 amazing friends who work in the corporate world have to walk through a lot of sublimation and humiliation or just, it has radically changed in the past seven years.
Speaker 1 And with reporting structures and harassment is actually like, that's not flirting. That's actually like, leave me the F of
Speaker 1 that.
Speaker 95 And even the jokes about, like, can you believe we can't do this are now met with like, shut up.
Speaker 101 Shut up. You know what I mean?
Speaker 95 Like, I've been,
Speaker 81 how many times, like, when you get cast on a new project, you have like the, you know, the sexual harassment training.
Speaker 100 And it's the people who are like, I can't believe this.
Speaker 85 When I was on 15 years ago, it's like, okay, dude.
Speaker 182 Okay.
Speaker 129 Like, listen to yourself.
Speaker 136 I've had people roll their eyes during it. And it was usually people who were harassing people.
Speaker 177 Exactly.
Speaker 106 It's like, what?
Speaker 138 I can't tell you I like your shirt.
Speaker 232 It's like, no, you can tell me you like my shirt and you know the difference.
Speaker 74 Yeah.
Speaker 4 And so the fact that you're stunting on this right now is inappropriate.
Speaker 89 But it's, but then that's when you remember people who just want attention.
Speaker 1 You know, but I think morning show is great too because we get to watch things shift, right? So we were there during Mean Two.
Speaker 1 We were talking about workplace harassment, but now we're here talking about the manoverse and the rise of the male podcaster having massive influence.
Speaker 46 Yeah, perfect casting, by the way.
Speaker 69 Perfect casting. Wasn't he great?
Speaker 46 We love it.
Speaker 1 Too many Holbrook is amazing and he has, you know, this ease and charm about him, but he's also kind of a good old boy.
Speaker 76 It works for that character, too.
Speaker 1 And so I think it's great that we can talk about journalism in this way that, you know, we're not attacking anybody, but we're just sort of illuminating how disturbing it is that people are getting their news sources from people who are maybe not experts in the things they're talking about.
Speaker 146 Well, that's one of the biggest problems I have with, I mean, in our podcasting community, when suddenly a lifestyle podcast or a comedy podcast host thinks that they can have a politician on their show and have a real conversation with them.
Speaker 174 I just don't think it's something that we should be doing.
Speaker 129 We're not qualified necessarily to do that.
Speaker 155 Like, well, I think it's hard to say that, you know?
Speaker 25 During the election, we were pitched
Speaker 124 Democratic politicians to come on here.
Speaker 74 Presidential candidates.
Speaker 89 Presidential candidates.
Speaker 86 And we had to pass because I was like, I think then I would have to, and Bowen would have to follow up with some
Speaker 141 topics.
Speaker 95 And like, I don't know if you want this person on our show.
Speaker 91 Right.
Speaker 74 I don't know if it's best for us to do this.
Speaker 1 It's also good to trust your instincts because, again, what is your purpose here?
Speaker 46 Are you having a great political news? No, we should make people happy.
Speaker 143 Guys, you make people happy.
Speaker 131 Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 Like having your own award show.
Speaker 48 Exactly. Exactly.
Speaker 46 Which was Jason.
Speaker 177 You watched it.
Speaker 1 You guys, come on.
Speaker 46 You're invited to
Speaker 115 do it with that.
Speaker 128 We just sort of try to make each other laugh.
Speaker 138 And if we do,
Speaker 74 we just follow that.
Speaker 1 And did you tell people like guests that they had to come on to accept their awards?
Speaker 46 Well, or did they just want to?
Speaker 96 So peek behind the curtain.
Speaker 75 It was our amazing, amazing, amazing team to help us.
Speaker 119 And the amazing team.
Speaker 46 No, I can't believe you watched it.
Speaker 33 I can't believe you watched it.
Speaker 46
I can't believe it. It was so incredible.
It was so fun.
Speaker 131 Repeated some clips. So we're very funny.
Speaker 135 Thank you.
Speaker 129 You're invited any year.
Speaker 160 Here's the thing is like, I literally was thinking, I was like, no, the first time we meet Reese has to be like this.
Speaker 187 And then we're going to open the box. Yeah.
Speaker 4 But anyway, it's there.
Speaker 79 But no, we just, no, we like, look, it was a lot of work because it was just the two of us plus two writers, which is very understaffed in terms of award shows. It was hard.
Speaker 79 We wrote all the presenter copy, all the speeches, because everyone was like, we don't know what this is yet because it hadn't been televised.
Speaker 70 We told the tone.
Speaker 79 So we had to write all the speeches.
Speaker 96 We like, we did everything.
Speaker 165 How long did that take you guys?
Speaker 98 A couple months. A couple months.
Speaker 145 And the really challenging part was that moment.
Speaker 86 And this is why like.
Speaker 146 it's great to talk to you is because then you suddenly have to be like oh i'm snapping into being talent now and now we have to learn
Speaker 224 Abracadabra by Lady Gog.
Speaker 182 We have to learn a dance
Speaker 43 the dance.
Speaker 12 And that's when I, that's when I finally was like, I have an anxiety problem and I'm getting on propranolol.
Speaker 74 Okay.
Speaker 46 Because this abracadabra dance almost took me out.
Speaker 88 And you know it did.
Speaker 74 I'm so proud of you.
Speaker 1 So can we talk about our relationship to anxiety? And like,
Speaker 1 because I want to hear tools that you've learned and what I've learned.
Speaker 136 And it's real.
Speaker 46 You talk about it.
Speaker 1 I'm a high anxiety person.
Speaker 94 Okay.
Speaker 145 And so I'm actually really happy to hear you say that because sometimes I think when someone talks about themselves as ambitious and I identify with that, it's sort of what people don't say is the amount of anxiety that sometimes can be driving that ambition or accompanying that ambition.
Speaker 122 So even just to hear you label it as being, as your ambition being a symptom or how do you think of it?
Speaker 136 I mean, anxiety manifests itself.
Speaker 1 Depression looks like anxiety sometimes too. So it can be really highly performance based, like you have to perform, you have to show up, which is a lot of my anxiety.
Speaker 1 So I used to have panic attacks, bad panic attacks, like crying. And I tried meditation.
Speaker 46 It's hard for me to listen.
Speaker 1 I also have like some ADD stuff. So I can't listen to stuff for very long.
Speaker 1 Honestly, this sounds so crazy, but I worked with a hypnotist who also did
Speaker 136 no medicine.
Speaker 1
I took medicine sometimes. I'd have to take Attavan to calm down.
And
Speaker 1 then it would make me feel like a zombie.
Speaker 136 Right.
Speaker 1 And then I wasn't performing.
Speaker 46 That's depressing.
Speaker 1
That's depressing. And I wasn't performing at the level I wanted to.
And I wasn't as funny.
Speaker 1 But by the way, P.S., if you need medicine, please take the medicine.
Speaker 223 Of course.
Speaker 46 And a solidary individual.
Speaker 1
Don't be a hero. Yes.
And I'm not a doctor. Do I need to put that little thing?
Speaker 69 I'm not a doctor.
Speaker 1 But I started doing some work about
Speaker 1
with a hypnotist. And she actually works with this thing called neuro-linguistic programming.
So it's called NLP.
Speaker 1 And she helped me realize that I was going to get to the same result, but I could get rid of all the anxiety.
Speaker 92 When was that?
Speaker 1 I was 30,
Speaker 169 34. 34.
Speaker 115 34 is like imagine.
Speaker 91 We're 35.
Speaker 30 And so this was, this was, I think I've,
Speaker 32 well, how long?
Speaker 187 We've been now like
Speaker 81 engaging with this in a real way for like, what, two years, a year each.
Speaker 14 Yeah, sure, sure. So
Speaker 86 always thinking like what if i
Speaker 1 dull myself or you know what i mean i lots of my our friends with with mental health oh for sure are like i don't and sometimes i drink too much or drink at an event and then i was like why am i doing this i don't feel good or i take an adavan and i was sleepy or so that actually changed my whole life and
Speaker 1 I I want people to know anxiety is real. And when I see girls going through it or guys going through it on, and they post videos and they're, I'm like, want to hug them.
Speaker 1 I makes want to cry because it's very real and you're not alone and you can calm yourself down.
Speaker 1 There's tools to calm yourself down.
Speaker 75 I mean, there is no like
Speaker 198 magic single solution.
Speaker 75 I think it is just you finding like on an individualized level, like the matrix of things that that can help you through. I don't know.
Speaker 1 But the cornerstone of that work is understanding that you're going to perform at the same level, whether you're stressed about it or not stressed about it.
Speaker 156 Yeah.
Speaker 1 So decide to take the stress out. And she does a lot of exercises where you talk to yourself after you've completed the task, you've done the show, you're walking backstage.
Speaker 1 You guys are like going, you're reviewing and you're happy. And so you kind of just tell yourself ahead of time, we're going to get there.
Speaker 1 The way I process it is actually.
Speaker 136 who I am and how I show up as a leader.
Speaker 46 Sure.
Speaker 75 But the cognitive script that you have to undo, which is I'm sure the work that you did is to go, but no, I mean, the way that I do it, even if I like like the anxiety and the stress is just the way through, that's the journey.
Speaker 20 Like, like, at what point do you believe that to be true?
Speaker 1 That, like, you don't need all the stuff in the middle, that you will perform at the same level when you can let the compliments in.
Speaker 42 Ah, you hear that?
Speaker 32 My big issue.
Speaker 1 But just sit down at the end of the night, maybe even like just circle certain texts or take a screenshot and like give yourself a moment and let it in.
Speaker 31 Yeah. Because you really are that talented.
Speaker 132 And you really, really deserve where you're at.
Speaker 1 But even if it's just quiet and private to you.
Speaker 156 Totally. You know?
Speaker 183 One last thing before we move on.
Speaker 114 I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 46
And what I've always wanted to ask you. Okay.
Yeah.
Speaker 5 What I've always wanted to ask you.
Speaker 101 And what we kind of maybe brought up earlier with the book club, it's like people assumed that like you have the, like you have first look at everything, right?
Speaker 79 That must be a frustrating thing.
Speaker 75 And that is probably.
Speaker 14 Two things.
Speaker 75 One's the estimate underestimation that we've talked about, which is another through line with the ambition.
Speaker 79 The other is people projecting things onto you, Rhys Witherspoon, this accomplished, high-functioning, beautiful, charming person, decorated person.
Speaker 163 But then at what point does that like work against things?
Speaker 44 Like,
Speaker 14 at a certain point, I go, wait, no, that's not everything there is about me.
Speaker 1 You mean that people assume things about me?
Speaker 69 I don't know what they assume about me. I'm not
Speaker 132 sure.
Speaker 78 It's like the book club. It's like the book club, though.
Speaker 79 It's like, well, she must get first.
Speaker 14 It's like they just assume that you have these things at your fingertips when you have to work hard for them.
Speaker 1 Yeah, I think, no, I think like the joke is out about me that I work really hard.
Speaker 1 No, I don't know if people assume like things that what really gets my goat is people assuming things about my friends or women who are in the spotlight drives me up a wall that you think you understand someone's emotional experience when you have never met them.
Speaker 1
Yes. And you project things on them.
Like sometimes I'll get all my comments about people in my life who've had kids and people in my life who haven't had kids.
Speaker 1 And there is a massive judgment there on either side.
Speaker 115 Right.
Speaker 1 And it's just not cool.
Speaker 69 Yeah.
Speaker 136 We need to not do that to each other.
Speaker 1 And don't assume that people don't have any consciousness about children, even if they haven't given birth to them out of their body.
Speaker 48 Of course.
Speaker 131 You know, that really bugs me.
Speaker 89 Oh, that's that the this whole conversation that's like
Speaker 1 I mean, I thought I was coming in to do I don't think so, honey, about something very light.
Speaker 46 What? No.
Speaker 33 Well, no, no, move into the lighter.
Speaker 35 Remember when you said before we got into I don't think so, honey, I have one more thing.
Speaker 11 You fucked up because I have one more thing.
Speaker 81 Now, don't think that you're going to come on Lost Cultureistas, the podcast, and we're not going to at least bring up big little lies season three.
Speaker 46 Okay.
Speaker 106 All right.
Speaker 179 So as you go, okay, look down.
Speaker 44 I just feel like we do need it.
Speaker 82 And I would like to ask in a real way about like.
Speaker 180 How much brain space it takes up for you
Speaker 32 on the day-to-day?
Speaker 35 And like,
Speaker 144 what are we thinking about? What are we talking about
Speaker 1 i mean
Speaker 1 the idea of it is so exciting to me and then this is where my anxiety imperfectionism and ambition comes in yeah for sure and i don't want to do that to you x yeah well of course it does so i'm not going to give it to you guys but you know it will be crisp can i say and the
Speaker 74 the
Speaker 180 the best and i i like
Speaker 35 I you're just one of my like number ones.
Speaker 81 And like, so I will say big little lies, season one, episode six, the scene with you and Catherine Newton where she's out on the hammock and you're going to over to her to confront her about the fact that she's going to like sell her virginity on the internet.
Speaker 43 And when you tell her your secret about the fact that you had stepped out on Adam Scott,
Speaker 122 that to me was just like, that was like Reese.
Speaker 84 That scene was like, there was so much fire and there was spirit and there was vulnerability and that there was, there was all this, like, I just think that character was, is like the character that you were like born to play after all of them.
Speaker 81 And you've done, you've brought so much to life in these different ways, but I feel like Madeline Martha McKenzie is like,
Speaker 185 that's like the one.
Speaker 125 And I just hope that in season three, she tears it up.
Speaker 83 Thank you. That's what I'm going to say.
Speaker 80 I have that big little lies.
Speaker 91 That's, that's Madeline's show.
Speaker 1 Well, I'm going to pick your brain for cool set pieces too because I think what's important too is yes you get all the wonderful inner
Speaker 1 personal dynamics and you get all the friendships and all the great women but we really live for our set pieces too oh yeah oh god whether it's you know um the trivia night where we all dress like audre headburn or we have a discount party for
Speaker 1 our daughter yeah so those are really important to me too and
Speaker 1 Like it all has to cook into this beautiful, delicious meal.
Speaker 99 And it has to be perfect.
Speaker 161 i i mean they do such an amazing job y'all do such an amazing job at picking those places too i remember that you guys went to go get coffee at a place one time this is when you have this scene with meryl and she reads you for being short like i just like this outdoor coffee spot where you ordered an americano i was like oh i want to go order an americano at that place like i was influenced
Speaker 131 i love everything about that show the fact that the show was so yummy that meryl was like yes i want to do it she was like tracy though she was like Me, you brought Meryl to TV.
Speaker 135 Oh,
Speaker 75 well done.
Speaker 1 Nicole did. She called Nicole and she was like, I got to be on your show.
Speaker 46 And that was it. And that's how the match is.
Speaker 46 So I would imagine Nicole and Meryl.
Speaker 113 You said something one time.
Speaker 160 I think it was when you were giving a tribute to
Speaker 96 Nicole where you were talking about how, like, Nicole calls and she's like, You've got to understand.
Speaker 128 I don't understand.
Speaker 177 There's an actor.
Speaker 100 There's this director.
Speaker 46 She's amazing.
Speaker 128 Oh, we must get her.
Speaker 1 Then she does say stuff like,
Speaker 128 we must go on a girls' trip.
Speaker 88 I have to have a tequila.
Speaker 177 We have to.
Speaker 46 We must.
Speaker 69 Oh.
Speaker 69 She really does.
Speaker 167 Yeah. She really does.
Speaker 46
She needs to have a tequila. And she is.
She's like,
Speaker 1 you and I, we're the property girlies. We love to buy property.
Speaker 108 Please. She's totally right.
Speaker 138 Two of the great folks have any three questions, by the way.
Speaker 99 So you're like, you get real estate questions.
Speaker 1 call us.
Speaker 138 Did you really do that backflip on that trampoline?
Speaker 110 Because for a second, I was like, did they edit this?
Speaker 46 In Vogue? Yes.
Speaker 167 73 questions. You did that backflip.
Speaker 158 Yeah, I was a gymnast when I was a little.
Speaker 1 I was a diver and a gymnast.
Speaker 102 You were a diver and a gymnast.
Speaker 71 You were flying too.
Speaker 1 I was taking big risks.
Speaker 1 And it was your event. Very small stature, very big risk.
Speaker 81 What was your event in gymnastics where you were an uneven bars queen?
Speaker 48 I was more floor. Beam.
Speaker 1 Beam. Beam.
Speaker 138 It's so scary.
Speaker 46 All the short queens love beam.
Speaker 1 Because, you know, low center of gravity.
Speaker 104 My sister was too tall to be doing gymnastics, and we would just be white-knuckling into the seats.
Speaker 46 It's like, this girl's going down.
Speaker 134 You're like, just legs and arms and legs.
Speaker 106 Bars was good for her.
Speaker 124 Sorry, Charles.
Speaker 14 And there's symbolism in that.
Speaker 4 No one can resist a rule of culture.
Speaker 120 So here's one for the dating files.
Speaker 198 Rule of culture number 72.
Speaker 158 Chemistry isn't just vibes, it's values.
Speaker 202 Because what's the point of matching with someone if you can't talk about the shows you binge, the books you dog ear, or all the hot takes you'll defend at brunch.
Speaker 162 I mean, you definitely have friends who have met their partners on Bumble, and it makes sense.
Speaker 130 It's not just about matching with someone, it's about finding someone who gets your references, your obsessions, your whole vibe.
Speaker 23 With shared interests and prompts, you don't just see a profile.
Speaker 125 You get a glimpse of someone's personality, which makes it even easier to start conversations that actually lead somewhere.
Speaker 203 Plus, with photo and ID verification, you can trust that the person you're talking to is real.
Speaker 39 With that added peace of mind, it's so much easier to show up as your full self.
Speaker 204 So, whether your rule of culture is the best first state, start with the shared hot take on Renaissance, or compatibility is having the same hometown bodega order, download Bumble and turn those connections into something bigger.
Speaker 206 Download Bumble and start your love story.
Speaker 51 Ford was built on the belief that the world doesn't get to decide what you're capable of, you do.
Speaker 54 So, ask yourself: can you or can't you?
Speaker 57 Can you load up a Ford F-150 and build your dream with sweat and steel?
Speaker 59 Can you chase thrills and conquer curves in a Mustang?
Speaker 64 Can you take a Bronco to where the map ends and adventure begins?
Speaker 67 Whether you think you can or think you can't, you're right.
Speaker 58 Ready, set,
Speaker 49 Ford.
Speaker 134 So there's my at-home voice and my podcast voice, which I'm using right now.
Speaker 13 My podcast voice, as you can hear, is like a leveled up version of me.
Speaker 208 Kind of like the new DiGiorno wood-fired style crust pizza.
Speaker 9 The fresh from home pizza you've always loved, but now, wow, with a leveled up crispy yet perfectly airy crust.
Speaker 210 Besides being in front of this mic to chat with you, our readers, my favorite place to be is at home.
Speaker 212 And now that DiGiorno has new wood-fired style crust pizzas, I might start doing the show from home more often.
Speaker 213 DiGiorno is dropping a new crust in four topping varieties.
Speaker 215 Premium pepperoni, supreme speciale, Italian meat trio, and four cheese.
Speaker 36 Oh my god, these sounds so good.
Speaker 217 I may need to excuse myself now and go make one right at this moment.
Speaker 103 You've never had pizza like this at home.
Speaker 102 It's restaurant quality pizza without all the other restaurant stuff.
Speaker 140 Not having to deal with all the restaurant BS is heaven, really.
Speaker 113 With premium cheese and all the best toppings encased in a wood-fired style crust, my night in just leveled up.
Speaker 219 The new DiGiorno Wood-Fired style crust pizza.
Speaker 221 It's not delivery.
Speaker 191 It's DiGiorno.
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Speaker 75 Okay, it's time for I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 89 Yes, this is I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 104 It's our 60-second segment where we take a minute, which really, if you crack it down, is 60 seconds to rant and really take down something in culture that's been getting us.
Speaker 161 And I was thinking earlier about like, you know, how you see the threads in your work.
Speaker 81 This kind of feeds into what I'm saying.
Speaker 114
Exciting. Okay.
Okay. This is Matt Rodgers.
I don't think Sonia's time starts now.
Speaker 85 I don't think so, honey. People telling me I can't say y'all.
Speaker 46 I can say y'all, even though I'm from Long Island, New York.
Speaker 94 All right.
Speaker 113 You all is a catch-all.
Speaker 187 Cause I'll tell you what I'm not doing.
Speaker 110 Folks.
Speaker 109 I'm not doing folks.
Speaker 142 I can say you all,
Speaker 80 you guys, like, of course, you guys is like, you know, it's, it's, it lives inside me.
Speaker 180 Right.
Speaker 233 But I can say, y'all, you know, who else says y'all?
Speaker 95 Bo and Yang. Every now and then.
Speaker 219 Also, don't come for me for code switching.
Speaker 141 Okay, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 46 Code switching is how I survived.
Speaker 187 It is the theme in my work thus far.
Speaker 74 I'm sure it will remain.
Speaker 101 It's true.
Speaker 95 Code switching for professional survival and social survival. And
Speaker 234 y'all can relax.
Speaker 46 15 seconds.
Speaker 113 because I am not going to stop saying it, probably because also Kelly Clarkson is one of my formative cultures at the age of 12.
Speaker 81 When she was like, Y'all, y'all, y'all, an American Idol, and I did imprint on her.
Speaker 180 And Rhys is here, and I've made it clear how much I love her.
Speaker 95 So, y'all, I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 97 And that's one minute.
Speaker 88 Y'all's big for me.
Speaker 46 That was so good.
Speaker 46 Thanks.
Speaker 95 But do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1 Yeah, y'all belongs to everyone.
Speaker 69 So, you as a Nashville queen, you
Speaker 70 noted
Speaker 105 Nashville queen. It does.
Speaker 72 All right. So you're allowing it.
Speaker 46 Yes, of course.
Speaker 91 Open up the gates. Open up the gates.
Speaker 82 Now I just remember Sweet Home Alabama when you got to the dog's grave.
Speaker 107 You know who loved that?
Speaker 145 Roger Ebert.
Speaker 46 He did. Roger Ebert.
Speaker 179 I'm telling you, I'm like, I have the bibliography.
Speaker 46 Oh my God, how do you know so much?
Speaker 137 I love you. Oh, my God.
Speaker 69 You're amazing. You're amazing.
Speaker 181 You're my favorite.
Speaker 168 I think you know that Roger Ebert loved that scene of me crying over my dead dog.
Speaker 89 Sweet Home, Alabama.
Speaker 82 In his review, I remember this from when I was reading like the reviews like way back when it was like Roger Ebert was like, I think he gave the movie like a two and a half star review or whatever.
Speaker 103 And then he was like, but the thing is, Reese, when she gets down and she does that eulogy, like that speech to the dog, and I was like reading it and I was like, mom, we have to go to the movies.
Speaker 46 We have to see Sweet Home Alabama. She's like, okay, no, get off my back.
Speaker 74 No, yes, of course.
Speaker 87 Y'all. No, we're studied.
Speaker 76 The Bruiser, what's this? I'm telling you, is that's a deep cut, obviously.
Speaker 79 Elwood, speaking of, I've got my own things.
Speaker 129 Okay, here we go.
Speaker 75 And I, and I'm swinging big, and this might not go over well, but I'm gonna, I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 79 And yeah, and you are allowed to respond however you would like.
Speaker 104 Okay.
Speaker 122 He's a chemistry major.
Speaker 104 from NYU before we get into it.
Speaker 74 Okay.
Speaker 92 This is Bowen Yang's. I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 75 His time starts now.
Speaker 79 I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 75 Elwood's pronouncing it ammonium thioglycolate when the pronunciation is ammonium thioglycolate.
Speaker 124 Theoglycolate.
Speaker 180 I fucked it up too.
Speaker 46 Oh, you know
Speaker 46 how daring.
Speaker 134 Unlike L, I was a chemistry major and I couldn't even do it.
Speaker 79 So I guess I have no fucking leg to stand on.
Speaker 227 And Elle herself, with her working knowledge, the rules of beauty are hair care, hair care, simple, and finite.
Speaker 11 Any Cosmo girl would have known.
Speaker 74 Any Cosmo girl would have known.
Speaker 95 30 seconds.
Speaker 96 I think for that to be the punch that threw Chutney in jail.
Speaker 124 Love you, Linda.
Speaker 32 Love you, Linda.
Speaker 23 Oh my God, we love Linda in this house.
Speaker 20 I think the impact would have been even greater.
Speaker 211 I think it has thrown industrial chemists in disarray since the year 2000 because they have not known how to pronounce this name that it's thrown even me off.
Speaker 76 And it really was a bump in the road of my chemistry education, but I could never be mad at Elwood's.
Speaker 2 I could never be mad at Reese.
Speaker 114 It's one of the best movies of all time.
Speaker 69 And that's one minute.
Speaker 96
I'm so sorry. I fucked it up.
But see,
Speaker 111
ammonium thiglocalate lives in my head forever. Now it's how it's pronounced.
That's the recipe.
Speaker 137 by glauclate.
Speaker 136 Was it a topic?
Speaker 1 Like, did you guys talk about it?
Speaker 79 I did not talk about it, but it's like, you must understand that it did confuse the community.
Speaker 14 It's like, how do we pronounce this chemical, this molecule?
Speaker 48 Oh, but you were influenced.
Speaker 46 I was influenced that I was correct.
Speaker 165 25 years later.
Speaker 99 But, you know, Al Woods is a fashion and merchandise major.
Speaker 46 She's not.
Speaker 46
She's not. Oh.
And I have a 4.0.
Speaker 81 Wait, but I want you to know also, did you know they show at NYU? I went to dramatic writing school at Tish at NYU. They show the opening sequence of Legally Blonde to show how to establish tone.
Speaker 105 Of the letter being passed.
Speaker 77 Really? Yeah.
Speaker 138 It's like
Speaker 89 there's like a whole scene and like just of every, of the girl riding in the bike and it gets, you know, Bruiser, what's this? And then you open it up.
Speaker 173 They show that whole thing.
Speaker 81 And we did a whole day about how like that is a perfect way to establish the tone of a movie and get the audience ready for what's to come.
Speaker 48
Oh, wow. Yeah.
I think that's so great.
Speaker 119 But yeah.
Speaker 1 I can't even watch the beginning of the movie because they replaced somebody, my hands with somebody else's hands and I can't look at it. And that's just my little inside scoop.
Speaker 46 I
Speaker 46 understand.
Speaker 1
I need to just, I mean, this isn't my thing. I can't, I don't think so, honey, but it was like hand doubles that don't look like the human.
Like, I can't.
Speaker 156 No.
Speaker 1 I spend a lot of time picking feet doubles.
Speaker 74 You gotta watch the feet and hand doubles. I also can't.
Speaker 141 How are you throwing me?
Speaker 74 How are you with ADR?
Speaker 85 Whenever I see something that's even a little bit ADR.
Speaker 95 No, I mean, like, you're good at it.
Speaker 142 But when you're, when I'm watching it and, like, I can tell something is ADR, I'm like, I'm out.
Speaker 69 Like, yeah, totally.
Speaker 129 Yeah, Yeah, that's hard.
Speaker 182 I think we're pretty good at it.
Speaker 89 I just did some and for Pomeroyal.
Speaker 107 I wasn't even supposed to say that I'm on it, but I did.
Speaker 155 Sorry, guys.
Speaker 165 This comes out in a little, you know, people are excited.
Speaker 46 Excited.
Speaker 108 Like, oh, we want to keep it a surprise. I love it.
Speaker 101 So, guys,
Speaker 100 doing it was so.
Speaker 11 I'll show you a picture of my cat.
Speaker 127 It was so,
Speaker 151 oh my God, they're going to be mad, but it was so like rich.
Speaker 81 I was like, wow, to be on a set that, like, period has a budget.
Speaker 115 I was like, this is crazy.
Speaker 1 You know, the costume designer is the same person as big little eyes.
Speaker 104 Okay. I was gagging for the costume designer.
Speaker 124 She didn't say that, though.
Speaker 11 Yeah. Oh, my God.
Speaker 1 She's amazing. She's helped like Laura Darn and she worked really closely together for years and years.
Speaker 144 I'll tell you after.
Speaker 1 So, and I mean, the looks.
Speaker 46 The looks for days. Looks for years.
Speaker 86
That was one of those shows, too, where it's like they're going to do a measurement fitting. And I was like, okay, cool.
I think I'm going in for a fitting.
Speaker 46 Every
Speaker 46 single of your design,
Speaker 137 everything.
Speaker 33 I was like, oh my God.
Speaker 86 And then I was wearing a fully aspido in the whole thing.
Speaker 141 So I was just like, okay, I don't know if we needed this.
Speaker 46 They're like, they're going to make it.
Speaker 108 They get your glove size.
Speaker 115 Everything.
Speaker 159 I just picked it up again. I was like, I need those measurements for something.
Speaker 137 Do you know your glove size now?
Speaker 69 I don't think I do.
Speaker 129 Not off the top of the dome.
Speaker 95 Not off the dome.
Speaker 180 I'm a 15 neck.
Speaker 46 All right, anyway.
Speaker 113 Reese, we got to get you out of here.
Speaker 116 You got to get you out of here because you have to do I don't think so honey and this is going to be iconic.
Speaker 167 Do I really?
Speaker 106 You have to.
Speaker 73 You'd be the first person ever to not do one.
Speaker 20 And that can be iconic.
Speaker 74 You get anything else she needs to do. Don't put that thought in her head.
Speaker 166 Okay. She has something.
Speaker 74 She's got something.
Speaker 115 What?
Speaker 1 I mean, are you kidding me?
Speaker 46 Only have his topics.
Speaker 1 I'm just like, which one did you share with you guys?
Speaker 227 Oh, yeah. Well, on the mic.
Speaker 77 Ready?
Speaker 1 I'm picking what's right for today.
Speaker 99 Okay. Pick what's right for today.
Speaker 1 Well, because like what's on my mind is what I came in. There's like somebody that came up to me at a party and was like, had said something terrible, my friend.
Speaker 1 And I'm like, now you're going to be like, Russian, we're going to be friends.
Speaker 69
Let's go. Let's go.
This is weird. No.
Speaker 1 But then, like, what I also want to talk about is like people who bring smelly food on like the trains and then like on their airplane.
Speaker 115 Oh, okay, okay.
Speaker 103 And if you feel 30 seconds.
Speaker 1 Also, I have another thing, which is like standing in line for a cinnamon roll.
Speaker 91 Like, why are we doing this with our lives?
Speaker 79 This, I think this, I think, cinnamon roll.
Speaker 11 Goose cinnamon roll.
Speaker 46 Okay. Yeah.
Speaker 116 Do this and know the form is yours to break.
Speaker 102 If 30 seconds in, you want to talk shit about your friend.
Speaker 46 Do that. That is up to you.
Speaker 74 Okay, here we go.
Speaker 14 This is Reese Witherspoons.
Speaker 182 I think so.
Speaker 114 Her time starts now.
Speaker 1 Okay, I don't know why people do this, but like, why do you stand in line for like a cinnamon roll you saw on TikTok?
Speaker 46 Because it would make it look better.
Speaker 155 What?
Speaker 1 Like a special food or something? Like, you should touch grass.
Speaker 167 You should read a book.
Speaker 1 Oh, like, you know, and I have friends who will spend all day searching TikTok as like a search tool for places to take a picture, places to eat special foods, and they will stand in line for hours and hours and hours and hours for sourdough bread.
Speaker 1 And I just can't.
Speaker 46 30 seconds.
Speaker 186 Is it they want to stand in line secretly, but they don't want to tell people.
Speaker 1 No one ever wanted to stand in line ever for anything ever, and especially not a baked good.
Speaker 166 Like, no.
Speaker 1 Like, sometimes I get it about like those beautiful drinks that have like the frosty meringue tops. Like, that's cute.
Speaker 100 And it's going to look cute on your feed.
Speaker 168 Cinnamon rolls are not cute in pictures.
Speaker 1 I don't want to see it. And I really don't want to hear about it.
Speaker 76 Five seconds. Okay.
Speaker 131 I really don't like that.
Speaker 131 I also want to stand in line for lip gloss.
Speaker 69 That's one minute.
Speaker 103 Yeah, that does feel like something that is not in my culture because it's never had to be, but lip gloss
Speaker 35 to be standing in line.
Speaker 119 Get a grip.
Speaker 5 What's worth standing in line for?
Speaker 46 Ooh.
Speaker 46 Okay.
Speaker 1 A really amazing once-in-a-lifetime live performance.
Speaker 225 Yeah.
Speaker 1 You know, like somebody you really moved by.
Speaker 81 What's your favorite concert you've ever seen?
Speaker 1 Well, the thing that's coming to mind is,
Speaker 46 oh my God,
Speaker 170 come on.
Speaker 1 So many things. Well, Gwen Stefani, when I was 12.
Speaker 211 Yeah.
Speaker 168 No, I wasn't.
Speaker 1 I was like 20 when she came. What am I talking about?
Speaker 1
I saw in Minnesota, I was making a movie with Paul Rudd. It was called Evernus Delivery.
It's a terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible movie. We had the best time.
Speaker 1
Sarah Silverman was at one line in the whole movie. She was hysterically funny.
That's when we made friends. And it was just a time.
Speaker 1 And we were in Minnesota and it was the beginning of ska and girl punk and
Speaker 99 just all the rising talent.
Speaker 1 And it was really fun.
Speaker 1 And I I went and saw Gwen Stefani in the tiny tiny theater and it was cool and she was just a girl but she really wasn't she wasn't just a girl she did coachella last year and it felt like
Speaker 43 and it was no doubt so it did feel like we were back it was it was just it took
Speaker 46 the way she was like i'm just a girl yeah in the world i mean it was every feeling i brought yeah she was a total beast
Speaker 1 is a total beast she contained multitudes yeah truly like
Speaker 46 yeah of course
Speaker 46 and a strong red lip oh always.
Speaker 69 And
Speaker 46 the pony.
Speaker 1 And that, and that, and the pony. And I just can't.
Speaker 69 And it was all.
Speaker 81 And also, what blew my mind was realizing she was having to bleach her hair all the time.
Speaker 181 And she still has it.
Speaker 1 Yeah, that's weird. That's a mystery.
Speaker 187 I had a bleach blonde moment all of last year.
Speaker 73 And
Speaker 31 everything would have done her.
Speaker 14 She's burnt.
Speaker 95 So I don't know how she's doing it.
Speaker 46 And still to this day.
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Speaker 121 This has been
Speaker 74 so much fun.
Speaker 131 Oh, my gosh, you guys. And I feel.
Speaker 138 I'm so glad we finally did this.
Speaker 33 I know.
Speaker 160 And like, trust me, when he.
Speaker 1 And I had to chase you down. And just for the record, I chased you guys.
Speaker 69 Listen.
Speaker 179 No, you did not.
Speaker 129 It was.
Speaker 79 It was not. You did not need to convince us.
Speaker 78 It was the easiest. Yes.
Speaker 73 I FaceTimed this one the second you parted with we just never think someone as cool and talented and busy as you is going to come spend time with us and so we are so happy that you did because we have to tell you morning show is like it's one of those things where it's one of the only things i get like super excited i wake up i'm like oh there's a new one and now that we have all of them to binge sorry y'all y'all don't um but um but we'll still be keeping updated and it's just as much fun as it is every year and uh if i only came on this podcast for one reason it was to watch you guys connect morning show the new iphone taylor spooks album, and the color of orange.
Speaker 46 Well, that all happened off mic, but we did get it, right?
Speaker 124 Okay, we got all of it.
Speaker 1 And then you hitting it with the iconic,
Speaker 1 whoever said orange is the new pink.
Speaker 155 Seriously disturbed.
Speaker 113 I mean, I saw Kevin Diaz wearing a truly Heinus Angora sweater.
Speaker 1 I taught you how to buy the most truly Heinz.
Speaker 167 Yeah.
Speaker 167 Okay, well, maybe we have to come back and we have to check more batteries.
Speaker 171 We're going to jin out more. This is Reese Witherspoon.
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Morning Show Season 4 is out now. We love you.
Thank you.
Speaker 74 We end every episode with the song.
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Speaker 85 If you want to hear the rest of that, do yourself a favor and be like a film student and watch the first sequence and then the whole film of
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Speaker 46 This was amazing. Thank Thank you so much, Bob.
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Speaker 22 This is the production by Will Farrell's Big Money Players and iHeartRadio Podcasts.
Speaker 89 Created and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang.
Speaker 39 Executive produced by Anna Hosnier and produced by Becker Ramos.
Speaker 22 Edited and mixed by Doug Bain.
Speaker 180 And our music is by Henry Ksmirsky.
Speaker 39 Six friends, one dinner, and then the bill.
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Speaker 93 There's my at-home voice and my podcast voice.
Speaker 207 My podcast voice is like a leveled-up version of me, kind of like the new DiGiorno wood-fired style crust pizza.
Speaker 30 With a leveled up, crispy, yet perfectly airy crust. Now that DiGiorno has new wood-fired style crust pizzas, I might start doing the show from home.
Speaker 28 DiGiorno is dropping a new crust in four topping varieties: Premium Pepperoni, Supreme Speciale, Italian Meat Trio, and Fort Cheese.
Speaker 74 I'll have all four.
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