"The All-The-Things Program" (w/ Jennifer Lopez)

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Oh,

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Please, everyone, it's time to welcome into your ears Jennifer Lopez.

Hello.

Hello.

I don't think you're in the middle of the day.

We love you, mommy.

I had such an introduction.

Miss Senora.

Oh, maybe.

Maybe.

You know, you like a frivolous time every now and then.

I love it.

I love it.

My whole life is a frivolous time.

Exactly.

I feel like you get thrown into like, I'm sorry, these like rigid interviews where they, where the people like don't know what to ask you.

It's true, and it's a little bit repetitive and everything.

So, this will be fun, I think.

I was looking forward to this.

No, this is going to be fun because I have a question for you, which I don't think you get asked a lot.

We have something in common.

We were both high school track athletes.

Oh, yes.

Okay, I want to know your agenda.

Not just high school.

I started a track when I was in,

I want to say,

fifth grade?

That's early.

Yeah.

So you were running.

Five or six years, fifth or sixth grade.

Yeah, seventh I started.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

So what were your events?

I was at 800.

Yeah, tough.

1500 meter.

We did the same.

Did you really?

So I was a Miler at me too.

Oh, come on.

Middle distance.

When was your time?

436.

Mys was 450,

50.

I think my best one ever was 449.

So you were for real.

I was for real.

Yeah, well, of course you were.

Yeah.

No, I thought that there was times in my life where I thought I would take the athlete.

Yeah.

I loved tennis.

I had like a great backhand

that was compared to like, believe it or not, John Maggaro right over the net.

It would just like sink on the other side.

I don't know how I did it.

It just was a natural thing.

Sink on the other side.

And then there was my tennis moment.

And then I had my track moment.

Yeah.

And I went, you know, I did it for years and did that.

And it was into softball.

So I was like an athlete.

I was like a little tomboy jock person.

Name one thing you haven't excelled at.

I mean, I sucked at basketball.

For some reason,

the finesse of it, I was more of like a brute strength

run stamina person.

You know what I mean?

It's a different, it's a different skill.

Totally, totally.

Well, you've mentioned sports that are very passionate.

You know what I mean?

I feel like track is a very passionate thing.

Yeah, glory.

Yeah.

Chariots of fire.

Let's go.

I can hear it in my theme song.

Yeah, we used to, there was a couple movies about steve prefontaine like the who was that distance runner billy crude played a mole movie we'd watch it all the time there's like those movies are so yeah inspiring yes and i feel like it's the keep on going factor of it all yeah you can't stop me i will do it but then when did you

i have that energy i was gonna ask this feels like a broad question but i feel like it is apropos it's like that passion like i feel like that's that's like a through line in your career i feel like this movie the kiss of the spider woman is such a passionate performance you can feel it in all the lines that you dance and everything that you do.

Thank you.

And when I was reading about your athletic past, I was like, there's something about track running and tennis, I was going to say as well, is very passionate.

But have you always been a passionate person, even as a kid?

I think so.

I think so.

I think that's just something that you're born with.

It's not something you kind of develop.

You have a deep well of feeling, right?

And I feel like even when I had my first therapist, she was like, you feel very deeply.

Wow.

And I think it's an artist thing too.

You know, it's like where I'm not, I'm not afraid of those emotions.

I like the way they feel.

It makes me, you know, feel alive, I guess, in a sense.

And so I've always, yeah, been that way.

But was there like a precipice of you, like, because you were saying you had to like make the choice.

I mean, Did that feel like a commitment where you were like, I guess I'm going to go down like this performer path?

I just loved singing and dancing and acting.

I just loved it more.

I loved it more.

You loved it more than more.

I loved it more than what was happening with the sports for me, which was great.

I mean, I had a wall full of trophies and medals and my parents would put them up.

They were like the whole wall, you know, every weekend I was going to a track and winning and it was fun.

Yeah.

But it didn't, like, it wasn't my passion.

It didn't fulfill me.

I was good at it.

I think it was a like...

kind of a training ground for discipline

for what I do here.

Yeah.

At a certain point, like, I think people that don't have like, you know, because you did have like a dramatic past, like in terms of like high school, you did musicals and stuff.

I did, I did, yeah.

So, that must have been a schedule, by the way.

Like, being a full athlete and doing the musicals.

By the time I got into high school, I was full arts.

Yeah.

Okay.

Okay.

Cool.

I had transitioned out.

By the time I was a freshman, then I was like, I'm just, I'm just a theater girly.

That's what I'm going to do.

Yeah.

But the athletic past does prepare you for that.

100%.

It actually gives you a leg up on everybody because you're a hard worker.

For the support.

For the discipline of just like, I will work from from now to then.

It's not like, you know, how wishy-washy artists, sometimes you kind of like, you know, do a thing where you're like, I'm so tired.

I can't do this right now.

That was never in my vocabulary.

Right.

Like, that was never me.

And I learned losing.

I really need to sit down.

No.

Yeah.

No sitting down.

Yeah.

There's no sitting down on another lap.

Yep.

When you hosted SNL when I was there, I feel like that was the thing.

Not that it surprised me, but I was like, okay, like, J-Lo's like, in this like yeah, no, she's a worker.

She's a worker.

You and I were like sitting next to each other, just like in between like sketches i was like oh yeah like she's not going back to her dressing room she's just like she's a cure on set on set once i get on set i'm on set yeah yep i get ready i may come out 15 20 minutes late whatever you know whatever but i do yeah and but i do but you come and you don't have to stop a lot we're gonna make up the time exactly yeah we're gonna get out early yes how's that early because y'all

get out

early when you're younger but when you get older you're like please get me home yeah yeah yeah let's go home 100%.

Give me my time back.

Yeah.

Because you guys did not have that much time to shoot this, Spider-Woman.

No, no, that was the one thing.

Everybody's like, what was the most challenging thing about this?

Or what was the hardest thing?

It was the time.

We didn't have,

you guys probably had a ton of time to do the wicked stuff.

Like, you worked on it for two years, two movies, right?

We just, it was so fast.

Like, what, six weeks?

It was four weeks of shooting for me.

Wow.

And then they shot another four weeks, I think, the prison

side of it.

And I had,

you know, I started learning my songs the minute that I got the role, right?

I was just like, okay, I'm going to learn all these songs.

I'm going to be ready.

But we didn't really start rehearsing until a few weeks before.

Diego was panicked.

And so was, we were all panicked in our, in a sense.

And we just didn't have a lot of time.

They didn't have a lot of time to create it, to do it, to do it.

So it was just like.

crash course talk about being on the set all the time or being in rehearsal all the time.

It was just very challenging.

Sometimes we would have to do like two musical numbers in a day.

Right.

One for six hours.

Intricate and big seven.

And you wanted to shoot them in one take.

Nope.

I don't want to say this motherfucker, but this one wanted to shoot.

Hey, I don't know if you could say that on podcasts.

I did say motherfucker on podcasts.

This might be one of my first podcasts.

So you have to, it's a lot of fun.

Oh, I honor.

Oh, my goodness.

No, but we were so excited you were coming.

You have to know.

Like, this is, and I said it brought me all the way back to Selena.

And I feel like while you're here, we do have to talk about that.

And specifically one thing.

So this movie came out in 97, just to go all the way back.

Right.

So it would be a couple of years before you,

you know, had your debut pop album, which was on the six, which was one of the great debut pop albums.

And like, it really changed pop music, you know, brought all that like Latin movement in, you, Ricky, Enrique, that was like a music.

Explosion.

Yes.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And I was thinking about Selena and there's a scene where you're in the stadium and it's like, it's a full pack stadium and you turn around and you have a smile and you hold the screen and the whole space.

But yet, you didn't have experience doing that at the time.

And I think now when we watch the movie, we take for granted, oh, of course, there's J-Lo in a stadium.

We know the image of that.

But at the time, that was not a thing that you had been accustomed to doing.

No, the only thing I had was the footage of Selena and watching her do it.

And luckily, I had great footage of her.

And when I tell you, I studied this footage, I could tell you every step, every way her finger moved, her eyebrows, everything.

I just was so focused on trying to get her right for everybody because she had passed away.

And I was just that scene, I know exactly what shot you're talking about.

And I haven't seen the movie in years, but I remember it.

It was the way she took in the audience of 70,000 people and selling out the Astrodome.

And just like a little girl who had dreamt of this and whose father's dream.

And there they were.

And she was the first, I believe, the Hano artist to sell out the Houston Astrodome.

70,000 people.

That's awesome.

She was 23, you know, and it was, it was a big, big deal.

And she just stood there and kind of looked around.

I had to kind of

put forth the feeling of everything that moment meant

for her, for her dad, for her family, for everything, right?

So it was a big moment, but it was definitely the

footage that I had that helped me get there.

But how much of that was you studying the footage for accuracy?

And how much of that was like you, Jennifer, like letting your soulfulness, your humanity, like kind of like project onto the screen, onto the camera?

Like that has to be, there has to be some of you in that.

You can't help

but stand there as yourself, right?

But as an actor, and I very much was in the actor mindset of doing that and not being myself, you can still get there.

You can still have that happen.

You can still feel those feelings and feel the magic because 35,000 people had showed up as extras for that scene for her.

They didn't know who the hell I was.

So that's what that was.

They were there because they knew it was a Selena movie.

And they knew it was a Selena movie because it came down to the Selena movie and they had, you know, they CGI'd the rest of the seven, but 35,000 people just showed up for her movie after that.

Yeah.

You know, for devotional.

I'm standing there and I come in on the little horse and carriage and how she came in and I and I step up to the stage and the lights go off and when the the lights go off, they explode.

I mean,

I get gooseies right now thinking about it.

And I had never felt that.

No.

But again, me, I would have fallen apart and be like, oh my God, right.

If I was Jennifer, but in that moment, she's a seasoned performer who has, you know, performed on many, many stages.

And I just, with all of the composure of the world, did exactly what she did in that moment, which was take the stage as a superstar that she had become.

Wow.

That's the discipline of you, like running away from it.

She's an actor, yeah.

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It's so shocking to me that Kids of the Spider-Woman is your first musical theater project.

Wild.

Wild, because I feel like you've expressed that your influences have been like Stridesane or these like MGM, 20th Century Fox, Columbia, old school movie musicals.

Rita Moreno.

Yeah.

Rita Moreno, and like your, you know, and like the bye-bye birdie thing would have been so amazing.

Oh my God, yeah.

But I feel like this is the perfect thing for you.

And I, what was that wish fulfillment like for you to like do it in this way, in this heightened way that felt cinematic and technical and all that?

You know, it was amazing.

When I read the script, I was blown away.

I was like, oh my God, it's happening.

Is this happening?

I'm getting the opportunity.

I'm going to sing.

I'm going to dance.

I'm going to play the three characters.

I'm going to do it.

It was like a pinch-me moment for sure.

It was just so exciting.

So exciting.

And you're right.

I had, you know, dreamt of doing this for years, but I'm a big believer and, and I've had to be.

And if you're going to have a long career, you have to come to peace with what's yours is yours and nobody can take it away.

But also, conversely, what's not for you is not for you.

And you have to be understand, like, I really have seen it when I look at my career because people make me talk about it.

Do you know what I mean?

It's not like something I'm sitting at home.

But when you talk about it, you go, wow,

the things that came to me came to me when I was ready

for them and not a second sooner.

And you have to be at peace with that part of it because it's so easy in this business to go, this person is doing this and this person is doing that.

And why don't I have this movie?

And why didn't I get a chance at that?

And a long time ago, I just, you know, decided I'm on my own.

path here.

I'm on my own trajectory, my own journey.

I have a whole different thing than anybody else has.

And so does each person.

And I'm okay with that.

I'm okay with how mine plays out because it has to do with how and what I need to grow and evolve as a person and as a human, not just as an artist.

And so that part of it, I've been able to kind of

really embrace.

Yes.

I also feel like something about you that I really love is that you always are thinking about how you're going to entertain your audience.

Oh my God.

I feel like all about them.

Yeah.

And

because when we get so many different kinds of projects from you and different forms of media, and I'm just thinking thinking about how it almost calls back to like, you have to make a choice between being an athlete and then being an artist.

But it feels like with your career, you've said, you know what?

I'm not really going to make that choice.

Like, cause there was that run of like critical success in terms of film.

And then you pivoted to a pop career.

Like, and you would think, because really people didn't do both, but you did both so well and sort of proved that you could.

I mean, I believe first woman to have the number one box office movie and album at the same time.

Like these are big trailblazing moments that I guess you can't,

you can't have if you're not thinking, like, I know this is going to be a way that entertains people and I'm going to be good.

Yeah, I want you, you have to,

that's the thing.

It's like, there's so much noise.

And now it's even worse with social media.

There's so much noise of what people will tell you you can and can't do or what you should do or what you do well or what you don't do well or they need to do this or they need to go away.

Like all this stuff.

But the truth is, only really you know what feels right to you and when I was acting and like you said having like this critical acclaim in the beginning of my career with these movies and working with directors like Francis Workobla and Oliver Stone and all these Soderbergh and all these people and then I decided I wanted to do a pop I wanted to do you know the Madonna Janet Jackson thing which is what also some of my idols growing up yeah people were like are you fucking crazy and I'm like no I just did the movie Selena and this is what I want to do yeah so it was that it was that me was that like the movie it was after Selena yeah it was right after selena and it didn't happen right away but i that's that's where i started kind of heading and it wasn't till tommy mattola came across a demo of mine that i did right after selena that he was like oh let's get you in here this girl is actually can do this and that's when it all happened yeah but the the point is is like you can

only you know only you know i knew that i I could do it.

I wanted to do it.

Yeah.

And so I did it, you know, and that was that.

And I didn't understand

no, and that's the beauty of being like young and ignorant a little bit is that you like, don't know all the things that could go wrong.

Right.

And so you kind of just go forth to conquer.

And I, I knew, I didn't know how I would reconcile the movie career and the music career, but I knew I could do both.

So why not do both?

Right.

Well, it almost feels like because they're with the pop career, like you already were a household name, created Google Images and all.

But like, then the pop career sort of brings you this mainstream like sort of, you know, conversation that you're in with the audience.

And I feel like that leads to you being in some of the defining romantic comedies of that time.

Right.

And for me, I was, I was going to ask about like the way you have such great chemistry with so many different kinds of leading men.

Like, I don't think you get much more different than McConaughey and Ray Fiennes.

I know.

But yet, you, you, as like, you are like like the thing that, I don't know, it's just a fairly different.

I can't fall in love with anybody.

But people want to be able to do that.

Do you think that's true?

That's the bad quote from here.

No, no, we're not getting a lot of money, honey.

But no, my point is, I feel like, I don't know if it's because I'm a romantic and I so believe in love.

Even Kiss of the Spider Woman for me is only about love.

is I'm able to

kind of have that chemistry with people and with all different kinds of people.

I'm able to kind of see through this and get to kind of like who the person is on the inside and really fall in love with that person for that moment between, like you, like they say, between,

you know, action and cut.

Yeah.

Right.

There's like a new kind of chemistry in this movie, though, where, which I'm curious about.

what you think about this.

There's a chemistry between you as the leading woman in the lead role and like a queer person who projects themselves onto you.

And I feel like love.

This is my favorite thing.

Go ahead.

Like

Molina, Tony Tu like projecting themselves onto you.

I was watching.

I was like, I've been doing this with JLo my whole fucking life.

Yeah.

I've been like, I want to be like where she, you know, literally, like, I would,

like, I wonder if you feel like that is a new thing you haven't explored in this film.

Like that dynamic between like a gay man and a woman who is just shiny and bright.

bright, the devil worship.

Yeah, you know, I

of the three characters I play in Kiss of the Spider-Woman, I play Ingrid Luna, who is that character, right?

She is the actress that he idolizes.

And she does a movie called Kiss of the Spider-Woman that she shares with Valentin,

his prison cellmate.

And in that movie, he's saying, Ingrid Luna plays these two parts.

She plays Kiss of the Spider-Woman and she plays Aurora.

And he identifies very much with Aurora, but he identifies with all of them.

And she is the powerhouse performer, Ingrid Luna, right?

Who, you know, like you said, he looks up to and he wants to be like and she's the perfect woman.

And

in this movie in particular, she's like this siren and she's amazing and all of that.

And it's funny because I identified most, not with the Spider-Man, not with the Aurora, even though there were parts of me that I feel

were very much like each of those characters.

They're very different.

But Ingrid Luna was the one that was most like me, right?

Because she's the entertainer.

She's the vessel for all these different things.

She's the vessel for all these different things.

And one of my favorite moments in the movie was doing where you are.

Oh, my God.

It's a show story.

Right.

So that's where I say to him, like, come with me.

Let's escape together.

Let's escape into this song.

Let's escape into this movie.

Let's escape into this world.

Forget you're in a prison.

Don't be where you are.

Be with me.

Let's go have fun.

And I can't tell you how many times in my own life I have had someone come up to me and say, this song got me through this, or this, you know, movie made me dream and want to do what I'm doing today.

And today I'm a set decorator or I'm whatever it is.

Like so many different stories.

This one helped me get through my mom.

She died when I was 12 and you became like my pseudo mom out there, you know.

And the more I kind of keep going, they keep going.

And when they see me fall down and they see me get back up.

But what they don't realize and what I love about the movie and I love about that number where you are, is that he saves her too.

In that, she goes, you know, she touches his face at the end.

And it was very important to me.

I was like, can he put his head on my shoulder, please, Bill?

And can I just touch his face there?

I know that there's a separation of like the movie and it's not real and all of that in the movie, but the movie within the movie.

I said, but I really feel like I want to touch him when I say my sweetest fan.

I said, because he does the same thing for her that she does for him, right?

She immortalizes her.

And

because I can't tell you that in the hardest times of my personal life,

how

my own, you know, fans and followers get me through.

They get you through.

They really do because you go, I can't let them down.

I can't fall right now.

I can't.

I can get through this.

And I can show them that I can get through this.

And it is going to be okay.

Not only is it going to be okay.

And I do this with my kids as well.

It's like, I'm going to get through.

And I said this to my kids.

We're going to get through this and we're going to be better.

Better, better.

I'm going to be stronger and you're going to see that.

And you're going to see that you can do it in your own life too.

But that relationship is such an important relationship and a real relationship in my life.

Even though we don't know each other personally, it's a real relationship.

I was going to ask, because I feel like you've withstood so many different forms of weird celebrity culture, right?

Like tablet shit, then the paparazzi peak and like the odds.

Now it's like stand culture and just the internet social

beast and social media.

Let's like, I was going to ask you, like, how you maintain that humanity throughout that, those different eras of, of celebrity culture, but I feel like you've answered it.

Like it's the fans that get you through it.

Yeah.

And it's all the same, right?

Whether it was the tabloids or whether it's social media or whatever it is or the normal media, any, any of it.

And people can be harsh and cruel.

It was the same thing when I first started and you get your first bad review or you get your first thing.

thing.

You learn that it does not define you.

That you know who you are.

And the more I could put my feet on the ground and go, who am I?

Who am I?

Yeah, right.

Do I know who I am?

And it sets you on a search to really be in touch with yourself all the time because it's so easy to listen to.

And this is anybody.

You don't have to be a celebrity for people to kind of say things about you and you go,

you know, and they destroy you.

They destroy a side of you.

You know, they hurt your ego.

They hurt your mind.

They live inside, rent free in your head, all of those things, right?

But the truth is, is if you really know who you are and you stick to that and you stay close to that, I have a really try to have a really strong relationship with God and myself first before I can have it with anybody else.

And this I've learned over years.

It's not something I had figured out, you know, when I was younger.

But when I was younger and I first started in the business, I used to say to myself, when I put my head down on the pillow at night, am I proud of who I am?

Right.

Am I proud of what i did today

did i treat people well did i do my best was i kind you know and those things are the things that matter to me and i can put my head down on the pillow and say those things so it doesn't matter what other people think or think they know or think they hear or it doesn't it doesn't really affect me yeah in that way because on the flip side of this i think it's my favorite thing about your

work is this thing that you do where it feels like there's this cultural amnesia around like what JLo can do and it's like every like every few years it's like oh yeah I forgot that she was an amazing dancer I forgot that she or I forgot that she was so funny oh I forgot that she oh my god she looks good in all these clothes oh my god I forgot that she's a good singer it's like there's all these different like it's like you're re-auditioning for like all the audience all the time it's because like they get lost in the sauce of like what people what the chatter is but meanwhile you know that you can do all these things and you're just reminding people all the time yeah but i'm it's not even that part of reminding them.

It's I keep doing what I love to do no matter what.

Yeah.

I'm in the pursuit of kind of finding projects and things that excite me

and just doing that.

And what I'm learning to do more of now is wait and not do all the things that excite me.

Gotcha.

Like, give me a little bit of a little bit of a look like waiting.

It's a little,

it's, it's hard.

Yeah.

But last year when I had to cancel my tour and I took a whole year off, I finished Spider-Woman last March and I didn't start another movie till the following morning this following March I did office romance and during that year

I was I literally just sat in like a rocking chair.

Yeah, you know, I was with my

yeah, but I was with my kids.

I really wanted them to feel me and I didn't want to be away from them and

We reconnected in a way because I've always been a working single mom for most of their life.

And

so it was, it was so nice for them to have me there every single day for a year, which was so different for them and for me.

But also for me, while they're at school and while they're doing whatever they're doing or they're away at camp or doing their things with their friends, it's just me by myself.

And I got to really kind of

feel good about

it's not ever going away.

Yeah.

It's there.

You've done it.

Like you did it.

You proved it.

You did it.

You did it.

And it made me feel like, you have nothing to prove.

You should just be doing shit you love when you want to do it.

And you don't have to do all the things.

But I was on the all the things program for a long time.

The all the things program.

The all the things program.

Yes, I do.

It's like, yeah, I'll do that.

I'll do that.

I'll do that.

I'll do that.

Cause I loved it.

And I was just, you're filling a hole.

You realize that you're filling a hole in that way.

It's not even that.

It's just that you were, again, like raising these kids.

And now they're what, like in their teens.

They're about to go into college next year.

Like they're graduating this year.

Whoa, that's wild.

The twins.

It's crazy.

You're letting that go slow.

Like that's that, that part of your life is fading out.

Like it's not fading out.

Just motherhood is changing.

It's different.

It's different.

And so then all these other things start to fall away too.

Yeah.

You know, maybe that's it.

It's not filling a void necessarily.

I mean, back in the day, I feel like it a little bit was.

And now, and what I'm saying is like, I've learned that I can, there can be times when I'm doing nothing and it's okay.

Yeah.

It's important.

It's actually going to make me better.

Yeah.

It's actually when I do take on something that really excites me.

Does this really, now I do the thing where it's like I drive everybody crazy.

So is this really exciting?

I mean, it's going to take time away from the house.

And do I want to do that?

No, I'm going to pass on that.

I'm going to stay home.

I'm going to stay home.

I want to pick out pillows online.

Totally.

No, you know what I mean?

It's crazy.

The online shopping is a problem.

You know what?

The thing about retail therapy is

diagnosed.

No, but it's just like,

I'll be here sitting in the rocking chair.

Yeah.

Thinking about life, dreaming about things, dreaming about the next thing and what it'll be like.

And, you know, that type of thing.

Well, that's also a big part of the creative process, too.

Absolutely.

Is the silence.

I think, I believe it was Michaela Coel who, like, and when she won her Emmy, she gave the most beautiful speech.

She was like, don't be afraid of the silence.

Go to the silence because the silence is what's going to tell you what the next thing is and that thing that you hear in the silence might be scary but don't be afraid yeah like yeah to do the scary

what room was the rocking chair in it's outside on my back porch faces the tree in the backyard yeah and and it was it's by a little fireplace and i just sit there and look at the sky

what kind of rocking chair is it vintage it's it's in no it's like an outdoor rock it's vintagey looking yes 100 And I sit there with, it's very funny.

It's a little bit granny.

I sit there with a blanket on my lap.

I put my feet up.

I put like my iPad over here in case I need to online share.

Of course.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And I just, and I just sit there and people call or they don't call.

A lot of times I'll listen to a book or I'll read a book or, you know, and then I'll think about that and I'll take notes on the book.

And yes, just elevating my consciousness.

You have to.

That's how it's so peaceful and great.

It's a fantastic thing.

Get a little tea.

there's a little tea moment i like a pretty teacup yeah you know just

normal stuff also like even just the opportunity to be by yourself period yeah is great because like when you are you i would imagine it's a lot of people it's a lot of being handled yeah it's a lot of all the time yeah and then you know to say nothing of like everyone out there in the world wanting to weigh in it's just like a lot of physical people touching and moving and handling and stuff like that 100 i was just in the back i stopped to just go to the bathroom here on the way in here somebody comes in while I'm being, they're ready for you.

I'm like, can you say me?

Are you serious, Nike?

I'll be right there.

We sent them in there.

Get Jayla.

I'm coming.

I'll be there in two seconds.

No, but

I sometimes think about that.

Like, we obviously do shows and tour in a totally different way, but it is kind of interesting when, like, it's excitement and then the silence.

Oh, yeah.

Like, just that.

You know, I love, I love that.

I love

you know, I was on tour this summer.

I loved being on tour this summer and it was like stadium.

And then it was like, nothing.

Yeah.

It was like, yeah.

It's like a bath.

Yeah.

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I think it's time to ask Jennifer Lopez the question.

Yes.

Okay, so Jennifer Lopez, I feel like we're getting a little hints as we talk.

Yeah.

But this is the central question of our podcast, which is, what was the culture that made you say culture was for you?

Like defining art or other things in your life that I would have to say it was my mom showing me Westside Story and then Barbara Streisand and funny girl you're in the right place two moments for me just

I could never live up to what that is.

I will always be chasing that in a way because it was as a little girl, I was just like, this is what I want to do with my life.

This is the culture.

Whatever this culture is, whatever this world is, that's what I want to be doing.

And I feel like I'm just arriving there now with Kiss of the Spider Women.

And I feel like my, my world now is going to,

it's like returning to yourself

again, right?

Like back to the, the, the little girl, the dreams,

and having that opportunity to do that.

And now like incorporating that into everything.

Like now I'm doing.

setting up my Vegas residency, you know, for New Year's Eve and all of that.

Coliseum, right?

Caesar.

Caesar's.

Caesar's at the Coliseum where Adele just was.

and i'm you know thinking of like

doing a totally different type of show than i've ever done wow it's gonna be and it's still you know as entertaining as ever but even more so in a different way incorporating these things that were always my influences since i was a little girl so it's gonna be fun i that's one of the reasons why i'm so excited that you landed in this chair for this movie because i knew it would connect to this question and i feel like when you say barbar streisen funny girl oh my gosh like he shared that when you got, when you came to host SNL, you had a Barbara bag.

The coach bag.

Yes.

It was the first.

I texted him right after.

I was like, oh, my God.

Jayla.

I commented on Jayla's Dry Sand bag and she goes, funny girl.

My mom would play that movie on a loop when I was a little girl.

I mean, there was no other movies for me except West Side's Story of Funny Girl.

That's it.

It made me want to do what I did with my life and still inspires me to reach for that

level of what they did in those movies.

You should put a boy like that on the set list for the call.

I'm kidding.

You would tear it up.

I'm kidding.

You know, it's funny.

I'll invite you both to the show so you can see it.

And you'll see what I'm doing.

It's very different.

I'm going to do all my hits, all my songs, but it's going to be.

You'll see.

So I'm excited.

Yeah.

Well, what were you identifying with in Westside Story?

Like, were you like, I'm Natalie Wood or I'm Rita Moreno.

Yeah, of course, you are.

I wanted to be

like the gang leaders and girlfriend.

Oh, yeah, of course.

In the beautiful purple dress, who was dancing in the middle of the gym and stealing the show.

And yeah,

I just loved her.

I loved her so much.

And Rita Moreno was so good.

And a boy like that, I mean, it's just,

and America, the whole thing.

America is one of the ever.

It's still one of the best musical sequences ever made.

Yeah.

Ever, ever, ever.

Yeah.

And they did an amazing job with the, with the reboot as well.

I agree.

Like, I thought, and that number in particular, too, I was like, so like grand and it really blew me away.

Yeah.

From funny girl, it would be my man.

I sing

it.

I've sung it many times.

I love it.

There's so many songs.

It's a great show in and of itself.

Yeah.

I love it.

I think my man, I remember.

Just that last moment and knowing the story.

It's just all black and she stands there.

Forever.

Yeah, whatever.

I love that one.

Hold her up.

I sang that for my kid's dad's birthday

when he turned 40.

threw him a big birthday party.

I had ran a triathlon that day.

Casual, doing it all, all the things program.

You get up, all the things.

All the things program is title event.

Because the kids were six months old.

He was turning 40 in September.

And I decided when the kids, when I was still born, I was like, I'm going to do a triathlon when the kids after I give birth to get back into shape.

Watch.

Yeah, just a casual triathlon.

Right.

But I was like, I'm giving myself a goal.

There was a show on TV and this kid was like, I'm going to do a triathlon.

I was like, I can do it.

I'm like there, like a peached whale, like twins, 50 pounds on my belly.

And I'm looking at it and I'm thinking, I'm going to do a triathlon.

And I started looking to see when a triathlon was.

And there was one in Malibu on September, whatever.

And then it just so happened that Mark was turning 40 years old.

And I was like, well, his birthday's on the same day.

We'll do the party and it will throw him off because I'll do the triathlon that morning.

That will be the focus.

And then we're going to just go back home and whatever.

And oh, so-and-so is having a dinner and we have to go to it, but we'll get changed on the plane and whatever.

And we walk in.

I mean, he's surprised.

He's like, what the hell is happening?

Huge surprise.

And then I disappear.

And he's like, where did Jennifer disappear to?

And then I come out and I sing my man.

Just a casual day.

That's a fourth.

sport in and of itself.

Yeah, truly.

I realize now as I say it out loud how crazy it is because I haven't talked about that in 20 years.

Yeah.

I don't know.

The running, swimming, biking, and singing, and belting.

Belting Barbara.

Wow.

Yeah.

I killed for that.

Yeah, that was fun.

That was a fun day.

Yeah.

So were you.

And then we left to Europe that night.

Oh, come on.

For our vacation with the babies.

There you go.

Were you pleased with your time in the triathlon?

Or do you?

I guess you didn't have much to compare it to.

I was.

I have stories about the triathlon that are crazy.

What happened during it?

Yes.

Yeah.

Well, the swim is the crazy thing crazy right you know you go and you're looking at the ocean for the first time and you're like i'm going to swimming to the buoy not the first one the third one yeah okay

i'm sure there's sharks out there no 100

i'm almost positive that there's big fish in there yeah which is not going through your mind when you're like i'm gonna do a triumph

you know at the at the high school

swimming 70 laps and feeling like you're a wonder woman no

no

it was crazy but i i I did it.

And you're supposed to have like your bike set up, you know, your bike set up.

So when you come out of the water with your wetsuit, you peel off the wetsuit.

Right.

You go over and you know, you get on your bike, you put on your sneakers, and then you bike for 18 miles or whatever it is.

And then you run four miles after that.

So you have to have your running sneakers on on the whatever.

So have you ever run a marathon?

No.

I mean, like, is it?

No, that feels like it would be too hard.

Right.

It's crazy town.

It's crazy town.

And it feels like now there's this for me.

Well, sure.

it's like for anybody.

And like now, I don't know.

Like Harry Styles running the Berlin Marathon now is just like making me go like, okay, like, is this a thing that I should do?

No, not that you should do, but like, is this a thing that like is like a new PR thing for certain people to do?

You know what I think?

I think it's what we were just talking about.

I think this is his version of like, I'm taking the time to find, I'm going to run a marathon because I'm a human being and not everything can do that.

Sometimes you're just like, don't you get like, especially when people put a lot of things on you, you just kind of like want to go, what's for me?

Yeah.

What am I doing for me?

Right.

You know, and I think that the triathlon for me, I remember going down when I was pregnant into a room and I looked and I saw that, you know, I had like two, these, my awards were in there and I, there was American Music Award and I had just won for best popline album the year before the kids were born.

And I was like, well, good.

Because I wanted them to be proud of me, of their mom.

And I'm like pregnant there and I'm looking at, okay, well, that was just this year.

So that's good.

It wasn't like I want it 10 years ago or something like that.

And I think the triathlon was part of that.

It was, I want them to be proud of me.

Now, they've never, I've told them the story.

They care, they could care like, you know what I mean?

Okay, he ran a triathlon.

But, you know, one day maybe they'll think of it and go, wow, my mom ran a triathlon.

Well, they're probably getting to it.

Six months after she had me.

Yeah, they're probably getting to the age now.

You sort of treat your mom with edge because you don't want to feel like you need her.

No, no, no, no.

They think you're the dumbest person in in the world right exactly like that was my

saying it well they have to individuate yeah they have to go they are so dependent on you those first 10 12 years that once they get into the pre-teen 11 12 they start going i can do this without you so they have to make you the dumbest person in the room

have to go i'm smarter than you how you can do that and they really do think they're smarter than you you know and that you don't get it and that you don't understand anything for a little while and then they get to a point which is i think where we're well, I'm now with my kids,

where they start appreciating you again.

Yeah, sure.

Because you're still there through all of the things that they threw at you, you know, and all the ways that they were kind of like, eh.

And they still have a little bit of that.

Yeah.

But they really are proud of you and they love you and appreciate you.

And it's, it's a beautiful thing, but it's stages, you know, just like life.

There's stages.

Do they watch like,

I guess it's like, if you had to put something in front of them that you're like, I want to watch, I want you to watch this thing that I did.

What is that thing?

Nothing, no,

no, did you get nervous about it?

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, because they're

excited.

They came in for the premiere of this.

Oh, yes, because we live in LA.

Um, and they and I'm doing a movie here, and so they flew in to go to the premiere tomorrow night.

Amazing.

And it's funny, they saw the CBS this morning that I did, and I talked about

the kids on that.

And

Max said, they told me um my dad who was taking care of them was like max said um

uh i'm actually looking forward to this one do you think it's because he knows this is a skill set that you like really what do you think it is that made him say that i think

I think it's the singing, the dancing, and the acting.

I think they've seen movies of mine.

I think they've seen me, they've seen me on tour since they were babies, you know?

But they, they haven't seen anything quite like this.

And I think my,

both my kids are very, very bright.

They were both very intelligent and kind of aware, as this generation is, of the world and all the things going on.

And I think they realize that this is an important movie through representation and inclusion and what it stands for.

And I think they get proud of things like that.

They're like, oh, I like that.

I like that mom is doing that.

You know, it matters to them.

I know how much it mattered to see Rita Moreno in a movie playing the gangster's girlfriend.

It made me have the life I have today.

It made me realize that I could be a singer, dancer, actress, right?

Like I could do that because she was Puerto Rican.

That mattered to me to see that.

And it matters to them to see these things, you know?

I think the movie is about that.

I think Spider Woman is about fantasy being.

escape, fantasy being, especially in times of political turmoil.

It helps you get through.

It helps you get through.

Fantasy of survival in a time when it's it's it's a movie about just queerness and anything.

It's about two men who couldn't be more different

than each other.

One is like this cisgendered revolutionary political guy who's at the front of the lines fighting.

And the other one's a trans window dresser

who's effeminate and who is like,

you know, couldn't be on, they couldn't be on further end of the spectrum.

Right.

And how being in this situation, they get to really experience each other's humanity and they fall in love.

And it becomes something beautiful.

You love somebody you never thought you could love.

Somebody you don't understand their political views.

You don't understand their gender.

You don't understand their preferences.

You don't understand anything about where they grew up or anything like that.

And it shows us, it reminds us what Manuel Puig wrote in that novel back in the day.

It reminds us that love and humanity and the soul of a person is much more important than the shell or their circumstances or where they grew up or what they are, right?

Like that, who they are inside is really the thing that matters.

And that love can transcend all of that if we just allow ourselves to be loving.

And I think that is the important message of the movie.

It's the perfect project for you because you get to fulfill all these things that have always defined who you are as an artist.

It's a very relevant film.

Right now, especially

for the reasons you said and beyond.

And beyond.

And you get to sing Kandor and Ebb songs.

And it's like Terence McNally.

It's like, these are the highest levels of theater and musical theater.

It's like, it's the perfect intersection.

The thing that you said that I said earlier was like, what's what was, it came to me when I was ready for it.

And honestly, you mentioned John Kander and Fred Ebb, who people know did Chicago and all of the these great musical deals in the cabaret and all of this and Kiss of the Spider-Woman.

And

to be able to sing a song, all of those songs, because I have 10 musical numbers in the movie.

Yeah, two in a day.

Two in a day.

Wild.

Ten musical numbers in the movie.

But I also had a brand new song of theirs called Never You,

which they had never put in the musical.

And we wanted it, they wanted a, he had saved this song, I guess.

And it was like, let's use this in there for Armando and for Aurora.

And when I heard it, I was just blown away.

I was like, okay, so who's the template?

Like, how do I sing it?

He goes, they go, no, no, you sing it like you.

You sing it how you would sing it.

You're Aurora.

Wow.

You're Ingrid Luna.

That's why you're so

hit me.

And I was like, oh, fuck.

Okay.

Yeah.

All right.

I can't listen to Cheetah's version.

I can't listen to anything.

It's you or all the people who sang it on Broadway.

I just have to, it's me.

And I get to do that.

And that was such a blessing and such a privilege.

And I'm so happy and feel so blessed to have been able to do it.

Yeah, and this is a gift.

It was a real gift.

It's done so well.

And also, like, you don't get a better director than Bill Caller did.

I mean, you must have been a Dream Girls fan, too.

Of course.

Yeah, come on now.

Beauty and the Beast.

Yeah.

All of it.

All of it.

Yes.

Even Gods and Monsters.

Have you ever seen that?

I don't think I've seen Gods and Monsters.

Ian McCallan and Brendan Fraser.

Wow.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Really good.

And Chicago and screenplay.

Well, obviously.

Yeah.

Well, Chicago was Ralph Marshall.

But Bill Cowden wrote it.

Oh, but he wrote the movie.

Oh, wow.

Wow.

You forget that.

Or I forgot it in the moment.

Yeah, it's really amazing.

I do want to say, just in terms of like speaking to

the bravery of this movie and how prescient it is, there's so many indelible images of you throughout your career.

You know what I mean?

Like I mentioned you just as Selena smiling in front of that stadium, et cetera.

I could list on and on.

But I do want you to know that at the Super Bowl, when you put up that Puerto Rican flag, like you just,

you lifted so many people's spirits, like including my own.

I'm obviously not from Puerto Rico, but just to see your pride, especially in that moment.

And as, you know, conversations happen about, you know, Bad Bunny doing the Super Bowl coming up.

I just like really

want you to know that that will always stay with me and so many people that were watching it.

And especially especially you being up there with your daughter, that

you and Shakira together.

I did watch the documentary.

I know there was some strife about like, we're going to share it.

Like, I deserve my own, which you do, and so did she.

But I will say that, like, boom, hit, hit, turn.

I know.

It made me so happy.

And I can't imagine it different.

But no,

that's a role of one of the great Super Bowl halftimes.

I think it's that thing of like, what's for you and how it's for you is how it happens when you're ready for it.

Like, I don't think I was ready 10 years before that to do the Super Bowl.

And when it came around, it was meant for her and I to do together.

And I see that now.

And there's moments where you like, you, you get like,

come on, because we were, she's trying to fit her whole disography and I'm trying to fit mine into like not 15 minutes, now seven minutes.

And so it was frustrating.

It really was.

But at the end of the day, it really was meant to be in the way that it happened in such a beautiful way.

And you're right.

That

for me, being able to make those kind of very

palatable political statements in a way, like where people could receive it, no matter who you were, whether you were Latino or not, or if you were a woman or not,

it did, it was so important for me.

Yeah.

And it was important for me because my kid was there singing with me and all those little girls that were on stage with me that day and representing all the kids in cages and all of the things and the woman on top of the world on top of the Empire Steel Building or, you know, celebrating the sexuality of being on a stripper pole.

And then like,

look, my no hands in the middle.

All of it was very intentional.

Yeah.

And

one of the best things of my life.

But as I said, and

people may have seen this, where I was, I literally just started crying.

It just caught me by surprise thinking about

my child kind of yelling back at me, I'm going to live my life.

100%.

I was just like, I can't, I can't.

It was just,

it was, it was everything.

It was everything

in a moment of life.

Every, all of my worlds collided in that moment.

You know what I mean?

From growing up and being, you know, a little Puerto Rican girl in the Bronx to, you know, my work as an artist and my singing and my dancing and being Latin and having a child and being a mother and all of it.

Just the pride of all of those things that you can have in one moment and all of it coming together is just, it's kind of like a lightning bolt.

Yeah.

You'll always have that and we'll always have it on YouTube.

Yes.

Because you know the gays, like, what we're pre-gaming.

We're playing it at music videos.

You know about that, right?

Like the gay pre-games that happen.

You know, they go.

What is this?

Show us just when gay guys get together at a pre-game before you go out and you put music videos on or a post-game.

Or a post-game.

You know, you'll come back and watch all your videos.

Yes, 100%.

I'm telling you.

I'm never invited.

No, you're invited to the next ritual.

You didn't invite me.

We'll come after Caesars.

Yes.

We'll do it in Vegas.

We'll do it in Vegas.

That'll be real trouble.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

The answer is yes.

It's very fun.

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Okay, so we've come to I Don't Think So, Honey, which is our segment in this podcast where we take 60 seconds.

That's one minute.

Look it up.

To rant against something in culture.

I have something that is

specific to our guests.

Okay.

Here we go.

Here we go.

This is Matt Rodgers.

I don't think so, honey.

It's time starts now.

I don't think, so, honey, that you can wear the color green.

If you're not this woman, you can't wear green.

At the Super Bowl, when they had that neon green lights from the waiting for tonight video, and she said, never forget hustlers on the poll, I said, I stood up and I said, she owns that.

color because it's not just i bet you thought j-lo green you thought about versace green dress i did no baby i did the waiting for tonight music video.

The color of the six.

The color of the six.

Hello, it's all coming around.

Hello.

I saw her show up to the

wicked.

I said, that's because Alphaba's green.

And Alphaba, I have news for you.

You get green during this press tour.

That's it.

That's it.

And then green returns to our guests.

I'm telling you.

I have to imagine that our guests can rock every single color.

But there's nothing like the green.

Something pops up.

Everyone elevates.

I feel better about my life.

My shoulders drop when I see that neon green waiting for tonight.

Let's go.

Google image, Jennifer Lopez, green.

You're going to get a ton of good shit.

I don't think so, honey.

And that's one minute.

I can't do that.

Can I say

that?

Mic drop.

That's it.

You did it.

By the way, I've always said green is my lucky color.

I don't say it's my favorite color.

It's my lucky color for whatever reason.

I'm always in green when everything goes right.

Can I tell you something?

I can't believe it's not your favorite color.

I do love it.

I do love it as a favorite color, but I've always said, I've never said it's my favorite color.

I always go, it's my lucky color.

What's your favorite right now in this moment today?

My favorite color?

Yeah.

Today.

Today,

I would say, I would say green.

Especially after that.

You can't come through.

No, it's green after that.

I was like, do I have another color there?

No.

Green is it.

It's it.

Yeah.

Are your eyes green?

They have a little bit of green in there.

Yes, yes.

Beautiful.

I mean, I just like, I'll just,

the waiting, first of all, waiting for tonight.

Do you have a favorite J-Lo song?

Because mine is waiting for tonight.

Is it?

Thank you.

And get right.

Of course.

I don't know.

I don't know.

Okay.

It's, I mean, there's

a form get right.

That's one of my favorite songs for

him.

Yes.

But also just the end of it.

It gets like so like.

Does it wait when the beat drops out?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I love it.

Can we do the dance brave?

Yes.

Well, I started singing and screaming.

The mark.

You did a

the mark of like um this because the second you hear waiting for tonight like the broms yeah and then and you're just like

no let me ask you a question where you're at let me ask you a question because since you brought up waiting for night i many times will put in the show the remix of waiting for tonight do you miss the original I think the original is a classic.

Okay, okay, okay, okay.

That's all I need to hear.

It's not about missing it because the remix is sick.

Like anything we can do.

But I always perform it because I feel like it's more exciting.

Like the lasers.

The lasers came from

the lasers.

You know what I mean?

But we can have the lasers with the original.

I mean, I feel like, but the original is just, it's a classic.

Yes.

But this is, but this is your dilemma.

Like, the original is a classic, but that's if you want to like really bring it, bring it like down and ground and you want people to like really lean in and listen to you sing.

If you're playing the remix, we're all jumping and singing along.

Right, right, right.

It depends on what you want.

What's happening?

Yeah.

What section of the show it's in.

There you go.

Yeah.

I don't think that's helpful.

Like, we're not really giving you like a No, no, no, no.

I wanted to know because Benny and I, my longtime manager, godfather to my kids and one of my best friends and my brother,

we always argue about that.

We argue because he always wants me to do the original.

And I never do the original.

I always do the remix live because I just feel like it's more exciting.

Sure.

And he's like,

what about you?

I know.

You probably had every conversation.

I know, but I'm thinking, I don't know, in this new era of mine where I'm making the new show and creating something really new, but maybe I'll go back to that.

Is there a way to make it very dramatic and musical theater in the beginning and then it kicks in?

Yeah, there's all kinds of things.

I've done a lot of different things with Waiting for Tonight.

When I opened the American Music Awards, I sang Waiting for Tonight.

I did it kind of like a legato, very slow, very this, and then we went into that big medley.

There's a different, there's a lot of different ways to do it.

Yeah, I also want to say, in terms of favorite songs, before Bowen does this, I don't think so, honey.

I would sing no me ames, knowing no Spanish, and I would just pretend

I thought no me ames

and I would just sort of give what I thought the words were what it is but my mom feeling just like I can't have you singing gibberish anymore because you know it was on all the time in the house I love that album it's like the k-pop thing it's like moving I was making the words up it's like you don't know necessarily what's being communicated but it transcends the language oh no it's such a beautiful song I love that song

um yeah I'm just talking about you know these songs in general that aren't in English you know what I mean it's like a sign No, I knew exactly what was going on.

It's like the Bad Bunny thing.

You don't need to understand Spanish to be rocking with Bad Bunny all the time.

And he's wonderful to look at.

But first of all, he's just a cultural phenomenon.

Yeah.

Right?

Like, he's one of those artists, like you say, that transcends everything, that transcends.

color, race.

It doesn't matter.

It doesn't matter.

It doesn't matter.

If you like good music, then you like bad bunny.

You will enjoy the Super Bowl.

Yes.

Yeah.

Yes.

De Victor Ramas Photos is one of the great albums of amazing.

Yeah, the last decade, I would say.

Yeah.

I love that album.

Okay, I have some

more general.

They'll bring it down.

No, no, no.

There's different ways to do it.

Okay.

I'm going to do it different way.

Okay, do it a different way.

This is not pop culture.

This is just life.

This is Bowen Young's.

Okay, this is life.

This is life.

This is based on life.

Like much.

This is Bowen Young's.

I don't think so, honey.

His time starts now.

I don't think so, honey.

The humiliating task of making sure shampoo and conditioner bottles finish at the same time, that you keep them evenly full.

Because you got me acting like Dexter's laboratory in the steam,

acting like a damn mad scientist trying to make sure these two things finish at the same time.

What is this?

Sexual intercourse?

I gotta make sure they finish at the same time.

Because what you're not gonna have me do is buy some two-for-one paraben sludge.

That has to do with the colours.

I don't care, man.

I don't want no.

But this is the thing.

Why haven't we figured out as a society, put the conditioner in smaller bottles or to sell two sizes of one or the other depending on what you go through faster finishing them at the same time is impossible meanwhile body wash is sitting over there minding its own business staying iconic i keep my side of the street clean it says but shampoo and conditioner this is a toxic relationship i will never ever ever be able to understand

being in the shower is hell every day for some people because guess what i feel like i'm failing at life if i can't keep it and that's what i mean you need a three-in-one you need a three-inch

body wash shampoo conditioner i've never understood the problem with three-in-one.

People are like, no.

It compromises on so much.

Conditioner is a totally different thing.

You got to moisturize.

Tell us about it.

It's a totally different thing.

Yeah.

Shampoo is a cleaner.

Conditioner is like moisturizing.

Yeah.

It's different.

I just know this is the son of a hairdresser.

Yes.

The son of a Long Island hairdresser.

I don't even know this stuff.

I know.

Talk about volume.

There you go.

And I'm adrift over here.

No.

Well, thank you for your service.

I feel like we're not talking about this enough.

Clearly, and also the word paraben being mentioned, the fact that words like paraben just

the fact that words like that exist up here.

Come on.

That's my bestie.

That's my bestie.

Are you guys besties?

Yes.

Are you besties?

You didn't just get thrown together.

No, no, we've known each other since college.

We didn't win a casting call.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We've known each other since like 1819.

Yeah.

Did you ever date?

No.

No, just I know everyone's thanks to.

Just ask.

Just trying to get all the we never

really get like directly asked the question, but no, I did I just asked you you're allowed to ask journalist J-Lo.

I know now by the way, I hate if you ask me.

Don't ask me.

We're not at well, we're not gonna ask.

Don't worry, but we are gonna ask you to do an I don't think someone.

You don't know what to do.

You have something

here.

I want you to do like a legato I don't think somebody just like this.

Keep it in this tone and speed.

I just want you to like ruminate, okay?

Trevor Philippe is I don't think so.

Yet, starts new.

I don't think so.

When people come to me, knowing what my schedule is and how crazy it can be and not fill me in on all the details,

they leave out the details.

They are trying to be helpful.

They're trying to be respectful.

They're trying to be, you know, the favorite person, but they're not.

They're not.

They really make my life stressful and full of anxiety.

No.

It's not.

It's not.

fun in that way.

I really much rather know everything ahead of time.

Be honest with me.

All I'm saying is be honest with me.

I want you to be honest with me.

You don't have to lie to me.

You know how they lie to celebrities?

Don't do that.

No.

Tell me the truth.

No, I can take it.

I can take it.

Just tell me.

Tell me.

This is what's going to happen.

This is what you need to know.

Have me prepped.

Have me prepared.

I like rehearsal.

I want to rehearse.

I want to be prepared.

I want to do it.

I have the discipline.

You can be honest with me.

Just be honest with me.

I hate when people are not honest.

And that's why.

I don't think so.

Yes.

And we will never lie to you.

Sometimes I do get the sense that when people get to a certain level,

they'll kind of like,

I don't know if they get worried or like they don't want to be the person who delivers the bad news or whatever.

It's like, it's okay.

Or they're holding on to the information and making sure they want to package it right and present it in the right way.

Just tell me.

Are you someone that likes it?

I love it.

Like, straight.

Straight.

I love it.

It's not like, hi.

No.

So.

What do you say spit it I literally I'm like spit it out

I want you to feel free of this

yes yes yes on that note on that note I think the reason we love you and people love you is because you are an excellent communicator as we're talking about communication It's, it's, I think it's, that's your through line as well.

You know how to connect with an audience.

Thank you so much for communicating with us.

Thank you for coming on the show.

And thank you for the years of joy and entertainment that you have brought because you really are.

I mean, like like, they throw it on the word icon, but you are because you, you back it up.

And like, just the amount of times I've like left with a big smile on my face after seeing you do what you do is countless.

I appreciate you guys so much.

You guys are fantastic.

This has been the best part of my press tour.

Oh my gosh.

Clip it.

Clip it.

Clip it and send it out to the masses.

And always rooting for you.

Thank you.

We end every episode with a song.

Wait, you play a song?

No, we do.

We do one.

We sing one in front of the guests.

Even our recording artist, Gus.

Oh, wow.

Okay.

I picked the key, too.

And if I gave you me.

If you want to hear that, listen to On Miss 6 and do yourself a favor.

Get On The Six and listen to On The Six.

I might go out of my way today to ride it.

I'm going to play that at home.

Authentically.

You guys are amazing.

Amazing.

Amazing.

Lost Culture Ace.

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Created and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang.

Executive produced by Anna Hosnier and produced by Decca Ramos.

Edited and mixed by Doug Bain.

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